BH talking smack again. He said he wanted Roy, but avoided him. Also said he wanted Maskaev.Posted February 16, 2014 7:50 am
One last huge payday for Bhop. He’ll either go down blazing or defeat the over-hyped Fraud and steal the glorious title of “The Best Ever”. Floyd wants no part of this, nothing to gain. Won’t happen…. but we knew that already….Posted October 30, 2013 2:52 am
And I tell you what , let ward fight the 49 year old Hopkins and see how he fares against him but at lhw just like calzaghe didPosted October 30, 2013 2:39 am
Adrian, I always say that Kessler was Calzaghes BEST win because it was not a
Uh really ??? First off calzaghe beat Kessler when he was in the end of his carriere and Kessler was in his prime… So when mayweather beats hatton first but wasn’t more dominant as PAC was you say PAC beat a mayweather leftover but now you say being an underdog and beating a beaten already and older fighter Kessler is more impressive then calzaghe win over Kessler eh?? Why dont you call Kessler a calzaghe “leftover ” ?Posted October 30, 2013 2:33 am
slappy joe calslappy retired because of the beatings he absorbed from popkins &RJJPosted October 29, 2013 7:58 pm
Regarding a clear win, I have to disagree with Junior. I thought it was quite close, with Joe by a nose because he landed more punches. He was knocked down in one round and then hurt in another, if I remember correctly.Posted October 29, 2013 7:14 pm
BH is always saying junk like this. He said he’d fight Roy, then turned down several million because he knew he’d get smoked. Then, he said he’d fight the hw Maskaev. I’ll believe when I see it. BH looks to be in the limelight.Posted October 29, 2013 7:12 pm
For 10 years Jones Jr was unbeatable simply a talent not seen often in history…Posted October 29, 2013 3:57 pm
I understand. Bernard can fight Little Floyd for tons of money and will never get hit hard, or at all.Posted October 29, 2013 2:02 pm
And I never said calzaghe dominated or beat hops up. But he sure beat him clearlyPosted October 29, 2013 11:54 am
Seems we have more in common than we realise. Completely agree on RJJ, I believe him to be the GOAT in his prime. Also agree that Calzaghe was a slapper and many of his tkos should never have been stopped. My point in that case being that the other 2 judges had calzaghe by 3 and 5 rounds, so it wasnt close enough for adelaide byrd brain to give it to HopsPosted October 29, 2013 11:44 am
Junior, that fight was NOT impressive on Calzaghes part, the right man win but he was not convincing in a manner that renders and S/D preposterous.. Those ineffective Olympic style punches he throws don’t make an impression with some… Trying to bolster the quality of his win underscores my point about how he NEVER dominated Hops… Emotional types
I wouldnt say the oponent beat the lmw champPosted October 29, 2013 11:35 am
Junior, we can play semantics all day, I never said that Ward was a LHW nor did he win the title there.. That said Dawson was the lineal LHW Champ before and after that bout and it’s part of Wards legacy that went the standing LHW Champ stepped to his turf he got stopped…If Floyd fought at 160 lost I guess no credit would be forthcoming his opponent because he beat a guy with no wins at 160?lPosted October 29, 2013 11:32 am
Come on sredmond we all know that Calzaghe vs Hopkins should never have been a SD.Posted October 29, 2013 11:31 am
Adrian, I always say that Kessler was Calzaghes BEST win because it was not a
In my eyes Ward cannot be compared to Floyd but I get your driftPosted October 29, 2013 11:21 am
It doesnt have to “work with you”, who are you? im not trying to discredit ward either, but when you claim he beat the lhw champ youre trying to give him credit he hasnt earned. Everyone knows ward beat a 168lb Dawson, thats what the history books will show. I can hold my hands up and say ward is the best smw in the world, because hes proven himself. But he hasnt beat a lhwPosted October 29, 2013 11:19 am
Junior, some day Mayweather is “boring” I disagree with them also… That said it’s VERY notable that the most historically celebrated division in boxing is BOW the least respected and not even TV worthy in this country… 168 had more attention with the Super 6 than Wlad and Vitali pounding these slabs of meat, the Klits physicality ups the expectation for ring violence and they get methodical TKO’s but the intervening action from these HUGE men fails to inspire and Wlads over caution is a proven turnoff…Posted October 29, 2013 11:18 am
Junior, Dawson was the Lineal LHW Champ when Ward beat him… He got the fight on the strength of his credentials we know his(Dawson’s) belt was not on the line.. Pretending he was a “nobody” is childish and basically means a great or quality fighter moving up or down is not credit worthy depending on result ie had they fought at 175 and Ward lost are you gonna say “Dawson beat an unranked Light HW” you are trying to dilute credit based on a technicality that’s not gonna work with me…Posted October 29, 2013 11:13 am
In other words give him credit for the victory, but dont try to give him xtra credit for beating the lhw champ because he never beat a lhw.Posted October 29, 2013 11:09 am
Junior, as for the Klits being boring don’t blame me the North American public voted on that I just happen to AGREE…. Andre Ward is the #2 P4P fighter in the World he has been defeating a FAR superior caliber of opponent over the last few years than the Klits where it’s a big deal if they actually box a world class fighter these days… Froch, Kessler and Dawson were ALL young Champions when Ward dominated them all… Kessler and Dawson had NEVER been stopped so Andre is amping up the game and handling his biz.. Watching a fighter as massive as Wlad grab and hug is pathetic and it’s not me that’s passing judgement, announcers and US fans could care less about that horrid division and Wlads last exhibition killed off the small amount of interest that might have remained… Now tell me about them cheering the Mormeck fight in Germany!! HAHAHAHA! Boxings Mecca has forsaken the effective yet sleep inducing Klits…Posted October 29, 2013 11:09 am
Im not giving excuses atall sredmond, ehat im saying is yes ward beat dawson. But he did not beat the lhw champion of the world, he beat an unranked smwPosted October 29, 2013 11:03 am
Junior, I don’t buy all these excuses!!! If that’s the case then EVERYTIME a fighter moves up or down he gets a pass if he loses and that’s NOT flying with me.. Alvarez got Outboxed like MOST experts thought he would physicality was bit the issue because Canelo had the advantages in size, power and youth, technical skill was the enemy he could NOT overcome… Dawson gets NO pass either, you’re a pro athlete you have been making and cutting weight your entire career and your opponents do the same.. Dawson challenged Ward at 168 and got take apart NO excuses had he won NO ONE would say that he was anything but spectacular.. OLD Hopkins cut extra weight and put on 2 of his best performances stopping ODH and totally dominating Kelly Pavlik, I have 0000 sympathy for these prime age fighters making up reasons for why they could not get the job done… Sell that crap to Bears he has an excuse EVERYTIME one of his fighters loses..Posted October 29, 2013 11:00 am
Bears, if Canelo cannot fight at JR MW then tell him to move UP! he was unified Champ till Floyd Mayweather got in the ring and put it on him while spotting the bit 15 pounds and 13 years…Canelos massive rehydrations are his own business and he does this to gain physical advantages in size on fight night, I know you’re a DUMB Guy and you cannot understand that weigh in to weigh in Canelo shed 1.5 pounds… Is he looking for bouts at 160
Tark – calzaghe “ducking” froch is a ridiculous claim , calzaghe beat undefited champion Kessler and took his title when Kessler at the time was considered the only one who has a chance to finally beat calzaghe who btw beat froch in their first fight…Posted October 29, 2013 6:03 am
Flanagan not flabagan looooilPosted October 29, 2013 5:19 am
If anyones interested ive just been sent a pic of helen flabagan with her baps out on a beach. I would love to w@nk in that girls face. Just thought id put that out therePosted October 29, 2013 4:53 am
Calzaghe was 454 years old when he fought kesslerPosted October 29, 2013 4:23 am
Sredmond you really need to stop all this crap about how Ward beat a lhw in Dawson blah blah blah all the other little snips like “dawson was outboxed by a 168 pounder”. Its crap! Dawson was NOT a 175lb guy for that fight just as much as Ward wasnt. He weighed in under the limit for a smw fight. He waz a 168lb fighter and he was severely weight drained. Not wards fault, but the fact remains. Judging by your thesis on this thread and other threads saying that the weight didnt effect canelo vs mayweather you clearly have no idea about cutting weight, and you repeatedly expose yourself as a bias a55wipe. On the same note please explain to me how the Klitschkos are boring yet Ward isnt………….Posted October 29, 2013 4:06 am
Any spelling mistakes can be attributed to my spazttic phonePosted October 29, 2013 3:50 am
Oh and calzaghe didnt need to head but, elbow, hold and foul Kessler to beat himPosted October 29, 2013 3:48 am
Tark, carl froch is my favourite boxer and even I can say calzaghe didnt “duck” him. At the time froch was shouting calzaghes name, carl hsd a 20 fight record and his best wins to date were against Brian Magee where he went life and death and just managed to get a ko in the 11th, a washed up Robin Reid, and a nearly man Albert Rybacki. Whilst Calzaghe was chasing pay days against the likes of Hopkins and RJJ, and he had just been to war with a prime undefeated Kessler, AND he put on a mastrrclass the year before against Lacy. At the time froch was calling calzaghe out no one ovrr here were interested. Thats why Calzaghe never thought froch. And for the record none of us even dreamed that the boy from Nottingham would go on to achieve as much as he hasPosted October 29, 2013 3:46 am
Ward had only 20 fights and did much better vs Kessler than Calzaghe did.. I think that deserves saying.. Ward was never tagged with a threatening punch. Calzaghe was tagged with smashing uppercuts.
Calzaghe never faced the likes of Kovalev or Ward.. Ever.. And he did duck Froch — and as much as people deny it that would have been a very tough fight for JC and he knew it.Posted October 29, 2013 2:12 am
Adrian “how did Calzaghe get Hopkins soul” he NEVER wanted a rematch, he did not win impressively and he was out in his butt…Mayweather is a WW fighter who has no biz in the ring with a 175 pounder trying to get down for a night… Floyd started at 130, this that would be a 45 pound climb which is pretty crazy and 30 pounds above his current best weight of 147… Fact is that this Mayweather fan gives the notion of this bout being feasible or happening close to 00000 chance of happening… Joes close win over Nard is what it is and hence Calzaghe has been rated appropriately in context.. He’s a HOFER but not an ATG simply not a heavily discussed boxer, he should be happy the Executioner keeps his name afloat from time to time…
Lol yeah I know calzaghe is not havily discussed by you because for you calzaghe is like a bad dream …lol … Yeah right now a win for you means nothing because calzaghe went down and got counted out of balance in round one ???? A thought only a win in a paper matters to you ?? Lol …. No matter what calzaghe never lost and beat the undefited Kessler when he was not in his prime , Kessler the one that ward won and gets a ton of credits by you .Posted October 29, 2013 12:41 am
Who the hell is kurat murat. a cleverly stoppage victim, who is cleverly? a dude who has never been stopped until he got BLITZED by the KRUSHER. kovalevs the man at light heavy, adonis is the man at light heavy, NARD is the guy who’s number is OWNED by the walking ko victim CHAD DAWSON. LOL @ NARD AND SCHMUCKMOND. NARD AND MURAT are in the same league and its BENEATH the league kovalev and adonis are in at light heavy. NEXT!Posted October 28, 2013 11:46 pm
B-Hop is not getting Floyd Mayweather in the ring. If he’s not going to take on Stevenson, Kovalev or Andre Ward, then it’s time to retire. Hang’em up Bernard. It’s time.Posted October 28, 2013 11:36 pm
Eric, are you saying that Tyson’s actions in biting off a mans ear were not insane? Klits fought a dirty fight but I never said he was a consistently dirty fighter..He’s boring as all hell and he would often rather clinch than box these are just HARD facts… Crying about guys HALF Nards age not being able to control him is simply the saddest thing I’ve ever seen, the mans OLD AS hell and these young bucks should be tearing him a new one but they can’t because he’s too damn clever and willful even at close to 49Posted October 28, 2013 11:03 pm
Basically you are OK with a guy dropping weight IF he wins, should he lose you wanna give him a pass if he’s your fighter… Dawson fought at 168 before and like you said “he knew his body” he called out Ward and got the beating that was coming to him. the BIGGEST factor in Dawson losing was the man punching him in the face Andre Ward… You NEVER tire of making excuses when boxers lose it’s amazing..Posted October 28, 2013 10:58 pm
Bears, Canelo NEVER drained 20 pounds extra he typically fights at 154 so he went to 152 BIG DEAL… He was 153.5 at weigh in vs Trout and he has fought as low as 147 in the past…Canelo was 165 fight night he had PLENTY BULK And plenty stamina but he could not hang with his master… GGG is a 160 pounder but you somehow approve of him dropping 7 pounds but Canelo is not OK going down 1.5 from his last weigh in?? Truly you’re a flip flopping IDIOT of the WORST sort..Posted October 28, 2013 10:54 pm
Hidalgo, how did Canelo make a mistake the time was NOW bad he participated in the richest fight in history.. He had a SMALLER far older opponent in the ring are you saying he should have waited for an Older version of Mayweather and MAYBE get a shot? Canelo made 12 million plus he would have been CRAZY to leave that on the table….Fighters from 175 to 140 are ready to do ANYTHING to get a chance at that paycheck… Garcia would be a moron NOT to take the shot sounds like you need a guaranteed win for him to take the fight? Of course Mays gonna be favorite he’s an ATG Garcia has everything to gain and nothing to lose..Posted October 28, 2013 10:47 pm
If there’s no Stevson or Kovalev for him then it means he’s facing more stiffs like this mandatory he just beat. Obv he’s not getting Floyd in the ring.Posted October 28, 2013 7:52 pm
For all of you that know anything about boxing, gauze and tape don’t make handwraps illegall and that was all Trinidad used to wrap his hands. Plaster of Paris, the substance used by Margarito is illegal though and that’s why they kicked him out of the sport for more than a year. They only made Trinidad re-wrap his hands because Hopkins complained about it. He wasn’t banished from the sport.Posted October 28, 2013 6:48 pm
Here we go again with B-Hop! Always looking to take the easy way out. Instead of fighting Stevenson or Kovalev or even Andre Ward for that matter, he looks THREE weight classes south of his own for a challenge. That is consistent with what he’s done his entire career. At 160lbs he stacked title defenses by taking on hapless mandatories and then criticized Roy Jones for doing the same at 175lbs. At least Roy challenged himself a little bit. He went up to heavyweight and won a belt. Do you think B-Hop has the kind of heart it takes to challenge himself like that? Nope. He never has. He avoided the better fighters at 160 so he could hold onto his precious little belt longer than he should’ve had it. Now he wants to take on Little Floyd, eh? If he doesn’t take on Stevenson, Kovalev or Ward, he should be stripped of his title. Plain and simple. I’ve been saying for years that Bernard is a paper champion and now folks are starting to see it for themselves.Posted October 28, 2013 6:34 pm
SRedmond, Danny Garcia would be no fool, in any way, if he did not take a fight with Floyd Mayweather Jr. He does not HAVE to as you and others seem to think he does. As Danny said, he’s building his own legacy, he doesn’t need Floyd to do it for him. Danny has also said he has no problems making weight as a jr. welterweight, and his performances clearly prove that.
Canelo made the mistake of taking on Floyd and now his formerly spotless record is tarnished with a loss, which at the very least, he could have put off for at least a year longer. But he got greedy, too self-confident, and stupidly agreed to fight at a catchweight just so he could have a piece of the Mayweather pie.
Personally, I think Danny and Angel are much smarter than this. Then again, who knows how much money will be waived in his face in order to make that fight? Regardless, Danny doesn’t have to fight Floyd Mayweather Jr. and to think he does, for any reason, is just bunk.Posted October 28, 2013 4:44 pm
Here go s sedmon again, writeing history, trying to compair a young talent like kovelev thats just getting started to hopkins thats bern around for a hundred years. Lol this guys never seems to amaze with his stupid talk. The other day sedmon was trying to redefine “dirty boxer” saying mike tyson was dirty for biting off an ear, thats a completly diffrent example that may have never been done before and a isolated event and more jeffry damherish than dirty. Then he says klitschko is a dirty fighter because one truly dirty fight in his last showing. Head butting is something b hop had made a entire carrer out of and usring dirty tatics. If joey down the street is other wise a nice guy that never gets into trouble and is well liked in the community go s out and has one to many and gets in a fight well joey gets a pass, joey had a bad nite, but if mikey down the street does that every weekend, mikey is known as a hell raiser. Klitschko had a bad nite, b hop is mikeys big brother.Posted October 28, 2013 4:41 pm
Mayweather needs to fight tim bradly and hopkins needs to fight kovelev. Cased closed.Posted October 28, 2013 4:26 pm
ggg is a freak BEAST. i cant say i totally dont approve if him taking in floyd but these guys have to know their body well enough. ive necer seen any stamina issues with ggg but ice never seen him drain damn near 20 pounds like canelo. it is well known canelos stamina was in question from boiling down and we seen how bad these effects can be with dawson. dawsons destroyed and to say the boiling down was not the biggest factor in that is falsity IMO. i always liked chad personally and still do as a dude. rooted for him bigtime against hopkins n was happy to see him beat him decisively. after seeing dawson and canelo and seeing they cant fight their best i dont like a fight where the guy is obviously handicapped by the boiling down personally. i dont want anymore repeats of that. it kills the quality of the fight, tilts the balance/favor/odds. and can permanently damage the fighters like dawson. so if a fighter cant be in best form and condition on fight night, i dont support that. fraud claimed he wanted fighters at their weight n felt the same as me. then he would only fight a handicapped canelo. fraud was too scared.Posted October 28, 2013 4:06 pm
Bears, you called “Murat a stoppage victim” what was Dawson after Ward beat him up, put him down 3x and made him quit? Stevenson fought him RIGHT after he had been Horribly dominated by the GREAT SOG…. You contradict yourself and Murat was again facing a guy who’s almost 50…. Clearly you respect Nards skills or you would stop whining like the female Dog you are…Posted October 28, 2013 1:17 pm
Bears, how is Murat a victim when he’s boxing a 50 year old LOL?? How old does Hope have to be for this to be fair in your book??? Always an excuse with you!!Posted October 28, 2013 1:09 pm
HAHAHAHA Dawson did NOT destroy himself Ward did that in the ring… After beating Hops Dawson boldly challenged Ward and got what was coming to him and he was getting outboxed in the EARLY rounds by a 168 pounder…sooooo Clearly you no longer approve of that silly GGG fight at 154 because you have made the case 2x now that coming down a few pounds is an excuse…????? Dawson fought at 168 before GGG never at 154 as a pro, clearly you abandoned your desire for this fight… You NEVER see my TRAPS Dog!!Posted October 28, 2013 1:07 pm
Bears, you were saying NONE OF THIS the day before the bout and Canelos stamina was better than it was against Trout again that’s HIS problem.. He has a guy 15 pounds lighter and 13 years younger in the ring and he got schooled… You cannot predict a KO the day before when you KNOW the terms of the contest the. Change your tune when the results NOT to your liking… That’s where the term “Monday morning Quarterbacking” comes from and you are KNOWN to engage in this childish practice… Canelo had MAJOR physical advantages but he can’t box like Floyd Mayweather so he just became another feather in the Mayweather cap!!!Posted October 28, 2013 1:03 pm
*wriggle and writhe like the worm you are sonPosted October 28, 2013 1:02 pm
Bears, Dawson won but he AGAIN did NOT end a 47 year old boxer who went on to GREATER glory while Chad got knocked out 2x… If Chad was SO dominant over Hopkins why no stoppage or career ending beating? The mans old enough to be his father?? Face it NO ONE has EVER destroyed Hops in a ring and if they do the guy they beat will be 50 years old when it happens LOL…. Calzaghe did WORSE than Chad though Hops was younger against Calz…. But at least Chad stayed off the floor and won all the cards, whereas Joe had to content himself with a narrow points win and a trip to the deck….HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!Posted October 28, 2013 12:54 pm
Bears, Kovalev is just NOT all that he is a guy getting his feet wet in boxing and your contention is that he is BETTER than a 49 year old guy who accomplished MORE in his 40′s than Kovalev has in his whole CAREER… We are NOT sold, we are NOT impressed “lightening fast” you make it sound like a PRIME Roy Jones… NONE of the these young LHW’s are truly “Great fighters” thats why you dopes think a BIG puncher like Stevenson is Marvin Hagler!! HAHAHAHAHAHA!!Posted October 28, 2013 12:51 pm
Bears, MANY saw Joe as barely getting by Hopkins I actually felt Joe eked out the win some thought he lost which I don’t agree with..BUT Calzaghe was unimpressive and then sought MUCH easier prey in half dead Roy Jones JR…. This is why Calz career ended with more of a WHIMPER than a BANG…. You are ALWAYS crying about Refs and judges when your boxers lose thats just your nature you are NOT man enough to own up when a boxer you favor takes that “L”…. Up until the day before the Canelo fight you were saying he was gonna KO Floyd and then when he loses you immediately (as predicted) start saying he was drained ect when even Canelo just admitted he was too damn good… I don’t take you seriously, aside from my perverse desire to rebutt your dumb arguments and keep you dosed up on antidepressants as you scramble for a way to level up with me… But you are simply a HICK you cannot think beyond a very narrow angle much like the fighters you sometimes favor who ware one dimensional… Sorry Cub!! OK I am NOT!Posted October 28, 2013 12:47 pm
Bears, FACE it JOE won an unimpressive SD, Dan Rafael and Freddy Roach BOTH blasted the Chisora vs Helenius bout as did your HERO and Vitali Klits who chose Chisora as an opponent over the OBVIOUS loser Helenius… UNLESS you wanna say that Vitali cherry picked the LOSING Fighter?? That was me smacking you in the mouth don’t worry I’m winding up AGAIN LOL!!Posted October 28, 2013 12:42 pm
Bears, BOTH Chad Dawson and Joe Calzaghe looked WORSE than Bernard did after their fight… Dawson was also not AWESOME against Hops he had a 47 year old former 160 pounder in the ring and he had to settle for a points win with NO KD’s but to his credit he stayed off the floor UNLIKE Calzaghe who was put down by OLD versions of Jones and Hopkins (SHAMEFUL)…. Hopkins is in NO ONE’s back pocket, he is a LHW Champ who just defended and where is Dawson now? coming off back to back KO losses… He was close to an elite fighter at his peak but after Ward snatched his heart its been downhill… Calzaghe is largely a forgotten man UNLESS Hopkins is being discussed and thats when Hops detractors or Joes fans try to OVERPLAY his cartoonish, slapfest against Nard…. Again I thought Joe outworked him but he is NO WAY broke Nards defiant spirit and certainly wanted NO MORE of BhopPosted October 28, 2013 12:37 pm
Sred = racist POS!Posted October 28, 2013 12:34 pm
Bears, Hopkins is a LEGEND and Kovalev and Stevenson are upstarts thats just a fact… If both men had pianos dropped on their heads no one would notice their absence historically… Besides Stevenson is the TOP man at LHW and thats just a fact he is lineal and Ring LHW Champ… Kovalev is a guy holding a piece of the belt like Hops… Meanwhile Hops has defeated MORE impressive fighters above 168 than Kovalev who like GGG is being sold as another “boogeyman”….. Hopkins is an ATG still fighting and remaining relevant 3 months shy of 49 years old we have seen 1000 Kovalevs and 1000 Stevensons but there is ONLY ONE Bernard Hopkins a 2 weight Champ who dominated 160 for YEARS… Respect the game “Cub”…..!!Posted October 28, 2013 12:32 pm
Bears, Joe Calzaghe beat Bernard Hopkins but he was VERY unimpressive and thats just a fact KIDDO… He was on the canvas in the first round, he landed NO punches of consequence and your trying to sell Compubox for the 1500th time is an indication that Joe really did NOT make the type of easily seen impact that you REALLY hoped he would… Calzaghe outworked Hopkins and I personally did NOT wanna see them fight again that said Joe SURE as hell did not want ANOTHER piece of OLD Nard despite the fact it was one of his most lucrative bouts and it ended in an S/D with him biting the canvas early on… INSTEAD Calzaghe went and signed to fight Roy Jones Corpse completeing a VERY unimpressive run at LHW and retiring with solid HOF legacy but well short of ATG status something that Hopkins has LOCKED in on with his continued success… Joe C’s best night was beating Undefeated Mikkel Kessler on points and taking some leather to do it, whereas we saw NOW SMW KING Andre Ward abuse Kessler with only 20 fights under his belt… I know, I know lets hear about the Refs, the judges and whatever else you have in your Garbage Truck full of excuses!!! HAHAHAHAHA!!Posted October 28, 2013 12:28 pm
again if NARD is the bigger name to you at light heavy than kovalev or adonis your BUM OF A BOXING FAN. NARD compares in no way to kovalev or adonis. NARD’S number is owned by the walking ko chad dawson (terminology credit to turbo hamster). What of value does NARD bring to the table? an old man, dirtiest fighter of all time, cant knock anyone out, his number/card is in CHAD DAWSONS BACK POCKET, JOE CALS POCKET, NARDS weak and nobody around here is clamoring for a NARD FIGHT. NOBODYPosted October 28, 2013 12:23 pm
SREDMOND, SRACEMOND, ETC- There was no need for a rematch of joe cal vs bernard. Why would there be? So Bernard could fight dirtier? LOL @ u!!!!!!!
The fight was fought here in the united states and the objective judge had it 116-111. We watched joe cal absolutely blow bernard outta the water in compubox stats. One of the most corrupt jdges, in fact the one i hate the most and find the most corrupt of all time judge adelaide byrd scored it a draw!!!!!!!!! adelaide is KNOWN CORRUPT TURD OF A JUDGE and a simple google search of the judge will reveal that. We have sredmond always carrying on about how rematches are not in order but he has done with the SERIAL FLIP FLOPPER ALWAYS DOES and now maintains we are to somehow detract from the great JOE CAL for not rematching the dirtiest fighter of all time after blowing him out of the water in compubox? Bernard couldnt even hang with JOE CAL. there was no comparing. how in the world does this turd SRACEMOND make a case for a joe cal vs bernard rematch outta one side of his mouth and claim there was no rematch in order for vitaly vs lewis outta the other side? The world did not clamor for a joe cal vs hopkins rematch. THE WORLD DEMANDED A VITALY VS LEWIS REMATCH SON!!!!!
your a joke of a racist redmond. it burns you and peej and supreme court and happy boy and pubic enema that hopkins lost to a white boy. IF HOPKINS FACED KOVALEV HE WOULD BE DESTROYED BY ONE.
Now we have hopkins excuses as to why he cant face kovalev saying he’s on hbo. Bernard is not the draw. People dont clamor to see bernard. Bernard is not THE MAN at light heavy. kovalev and adonis are. NOBODY NEEDS TO OR EVEN SHOULD CONSIDER MARCHING TO BERNARDS DRUM. BERNARD IS IRRELEVANT. Bernard should go TO KOVALEVS AND ADONIS’S CHANNEL TO FIGHT NOT VICE VERSA. whoever would rather watch a bernard fight than a kovalev fight is a bum of a boxing fan!!!!!!!!!! you heard it here FIRST!!!!!! BUM!!!!!!!!!!!Posted October 28, 2013 12:18 pm
Hopkins is NOT lusting to drop 15 pounds at his age he is LUSTING for a payday comprable to the ODH fight where he made I believe 15 mill… Nard cannot get an 8 fig paycheck or close against ANYONE not named FMJ… Against Stevenson or Kovalev he would be the BIGGER name the man is close to 49 and looking for more for the retirement fund… A Mayweather bout is the only route but it won’t happen because its beyond illogical and calls for too much sacrifice on the part of BOTH boxers… Floyd Mayweather is NOT close to a 160 pound fighter let alone facing a guy now acclimated to 175…. This debate will be DYING soon as real opponents manifest themselves for both men…Posted October 28, 2013 12:16 pm
Hidalgo, if Mayweather and Co seek a fight with Garcia he is GONNA take it… The day PRIME age boxers start turning down the BIGGEST bonanza of their careers against 37 year old fighters is when boxing needs to shutdown permanently… Garcias NOT gonna get this shot at Floyd when he is 30 and Mayweathers what 41 or 42…. That interview means “whatever” when put in context because no sane boxer is gonna let that opportunity go by… If he loses to Mayweather SO what he makes a TON of $$$$ and he lost to one of the BEST pure boxers in history…If he somehow won he becomes the guy that snapped Floyds win streak and the doors to more FAME and MONEY than he dreamed of open wide up… I rarely pay attention to peoples statements in a vacumn, when 7 or 8 mill is on the table and your best night is 1.5 or 2 mill then suddenly all this idealism goes out the window… Garcias a VERY likely candidate for the dance next may, hes YOUNG, UNDEFEATED, he is Ring Champ at 140 and he was already showcased beating Matthysee on the FMJ undercard…Posted October 28, 2013 12:13 pm
Hopkins said he would love to unify the belts even though there is no need because Stevens in the champ but he says the other guys fight on HBO and unless they are willing to go to showtime the fight cannot be made.Posted October 28, 2013 11:43 am
anyone remember when best fought best. those days are long gone.Posted October 28, 2013 11:42 am
Go to youtube and put in – Calzaghe & Hopkins Clash
This is where racist Hopkins tells Calzaghe I’ll never let a white boy beat me !Posted October 28, 2013 10:22 am
There are some people that needs to be ignored when they post their comment on articles. Mention no names. On to the real point, much as i am happy for Hopkins in all his achievement and defended him whenever he has been disrespected by the newbies to boxing or haters in general i think this crap of calling Mayweather out is outta order. Why? Well for a start he should be fighting someone his own size. The author said Stevenson and Kovalev are there to fight but no, hes rather calling out a man who doesn’t go higher than 154 for a fight. The thiings that comes to mind is that he is after that money especially having seen Mayweather and that $250m contract with Showtime. Secondly he is envious of how Mayweather’s fame has trippled. He wants some of it. Especially when the media go in overdrive on” all access” etc. Funny thing is Hopkins has pulled this stunt before. (Delohoya & Trinidad comes to mind). He just wants to be relevant more than anyone else. And that you can define as jealousy. This young man (yeah he’s 37) he having his time now. Bernard when you were the talk of boxing we enjoyed you and gave you your props. (The 22 middleweight defences), stepping up from middleweight to light heavy and beating Tarver all the accollades were given to you). So why don’t want someone else have their time. Time to step off and go look for your mandatories or unification. I hope Mayweather is not even looking your way. Well not with his dad around anyway. A bit disappointed with Hopkins.. *shakes head*Posted October 28, 2013 10:21 am
BTW, Kathy Duva and Main Event was working with HBO to make the Kovalev/Cleverly bout.Posted October 28, 2013 10:04 am
SRedmond, in an interview last Saturday night when Hopkins fought Murat, Danny Garcia said if a fight with Mayweather happens, it happens, but he wasn’t looking for it and was focused on doing other things to build his legacy. “I am building my own legacy, he said.” So, he’s not clamoring for a fight with Floyd. It’s the media and others who are. Presently Danny is doing just fine on his own, and I appreciate Danny’s integrity and dedication to himself and his career. Of course he wouldn’t be foolish enough to turn down a huge payday for a fight with Floyd..I think. But I also don’t think he’d be foolish enough to risk his stellar record at this point in his career. Danny is so young and such a great champion. He doesn’t have to fight Floyd Mayweather Jr. to make history or to make a legacy for himself. He’s already proved that.Posted October 28, 2013 10:02 am
Hopkins LOVES fighting the smaller guys. his career is littered with men moving up to fight him. admittedly he will be moving down as well but he’ll still nearly be a stone heavier than mayweather when they fight.Posted October 28, 2013 10:00 am
Dope-a-damus. There are a number of reasons why the Hopkins/Kovalev bout did not materialize but it wasn’t because Kovalev ducked Hopkins as you claim.
Ultimately, ShowTime was not interested in putting on a Hopkins/Kovalev bout. That was the determining factor in the fight not being made. Stephen Espinoza of SHO, when asked why ShowTime turned down the fight said, “”Many factors – schedule, budget, lack of depth in the division, etc.”
Besides that, Kathy Duva and Main Events had already been working on a Kovalev/Cleverly fight before Murat was dropped and Kovalev was made a mandatory.
Rather than just spouting off like an idiot and miming falsehoods uttered by Hopkins, you should try doing a little research first.Posted October 28, 2013 9:53 am
This silly campaign shows just how powerful Mayweather has become!! Boxers are willing to do anything to fight him and make crazy claims… Hops is not dropping 15 pounds and GGG is not going to 154…. If Floyd told most boxers to let their GF’s blow him they would for that payday… Danny Garcias the guy who deserves the shot at 147, this fight makes sense…Posted October 28, 2013 9:25 am
Adrian “how did Calzaghe get Hopkins soul” he NEVER wanted a rematch, he did not win impressively and he was out in his butt…Mayweather is a WW fighter who has no biz in the ring with a 175 pounder trying to get down for a night… Floyd started at 130, this that would be a 45 pound climb which is pretty crazy and 30 pounds above his current best weight of 147… Fact is that this Mayweather fan gives the notion of this bout being feasible or happening close to 00000 chance of happening… Joes close win over Nard is what it is and hence Calzaghe has been rated appropriately in context.. He’s a HOFER but not an ATG simply not a heavily discussed boxer, he should be happy the Executioner keeps his name afloat from time to time…Posted October 28, 2013 9:20 am
Hopkins has earned the right to fight his mandatory if he WANTS to.. The guy has been putting in work for over 20 years who cares about the whims and desires of these relative neophytes…Plenty of guys have had the chance to “chase Hopkins out of boxing” BUT he’s still here…And when he actually retires it will be as much to Time as the fighter in the ring of not more… He’s about to be 49, someone shoulda done long agoPosted October 28, 2013 9:12 am
“I BOO him on that.”
Well trick or treat to you too, kumquat!Posted October 28, 2013 8:45 am
“With that being SAID I still have Kovalev in MY personal Top 10 P4P list. Hissydalgo now agrees with ME on that after taking Cleverly over Kovalev.”
Hissydamus, you’re lying again.Posted October 28, 2013 8:44 am
Wana be model – hahahahaha …Calzaghe slapped his way to a decision but that’s enough to get a win and your soul forever hahahahaha … No one can give Hopkins a beating because when gets hit once he grabs and that’s skill and even if you win against him you don’t look impressive because of Hopkins style .
But by your logic Hopkins will be better now at 49 if he fights mayweAther then when he fought calzaghe years ago hahahaha …
I am sorry that Calzaghe was white if that’s is hurting you inside and beat your guys johns and Hopkins who btw is still a champion lolPosted October 28, 2013 8:12 am
Mick the Marmalizer
Well at least we could have a unification between Stephenson(if successful against Bellew) & Kovalev, to prove who’s #1 @ 175Lb.
They don`t need to prove themselves against Hopkins. They want to chase him out of boxing and into a rocking chair where he belongs but he won`t fight them.
If Kovelev fought Murat and knocked him out in one round (Like he should and would) you would say “Oh so what who is Murat”.
Hopkins wastes time defending a mandatory for a belt he has zero intention of keeping in a transparent duck and you laud it.Posted October 28, 2013 6:48 am
I wish Floyd M Jr could stop this discussion by making a ‘no’ comment because the fight is not interesting at all. Us Mayweather fans are not any way interested in BHop fighting Mayweather. BHop should concentrate on light heavies or even go higher to heavies like Deontay Wilder.Posted October 28, 2013 6:25 am
@Feather in Bernard’s capPosted October 28, 2013 4:35 am
Good for Веrnаrd, now if hе cаn mаkе 160 go too 220 аnd? fight with Wlаdimir ?Posted October 28, 2013 4:24 am
Stevenson and Kovalev are NOT anything special to Hopkins they are a couple of heavy handed fighters…. Do you REALLY think Hops has not seen the equivalent of these two characters?? HAHAHAHA!!! These guys are not legends nor are their skills otherworldly. (Prime Jones or FMJ) Bernard wants one last Big payday and that’s about it, he’s already proven WAYY. more than he should have (supposed to retire at 40) the fact that guys feel like relatively YOUNG fighters like Stevenson and Kovalev need to prove themselves against Hops is just more of a feather in their caps… We should be seeing this SAME energy for GGG to face Martinez who is the lineal and Ring Champ at 160… To his credit Stevenson has grabbed the RING belt at the weight…Hopkins name still in the mix is proof positive he’s the GREATEST older age fighter EVER…Posted October 28, 2013 4:21 am
Adrian, you sound desperate the odds Mayweather would take a fight against a 175 pounder at 160 are LOW…But the truth is that any WW facing a 175 pounder would be noticible the size disparity is HUGE conceptually… As for Calzaghe he won an unimpressive decision against Hops at 43, he was not dominant, he inflicted no harm and
Hopkins is 49 in 3 months and dreams of leaving boxing with an 8 figure paycheck there is only one fighter in the sport where that’s a discussion as a B side opponent (Mayweather) this of course is NOT gonna happen and would be a circus fight to say the least… As for Stevenson and Kovalev it’s simply uninspiring to try to sell them as “boogeymen” depending on their crossing swords with soon to be 49 year old Hopkins… Bernard has proves he’s not afraid to fight anyone, moving up in weight and fighting guys half his age Pascal, 2x Dawson 2x, Cloud, Pavlik at 170 and Murat…Hopkins is a legend that’s not gonna lose status by booking points losses at his age…By all rights the man should NOT be in a boxing ring period what he’s done is unprecedented…Posted October 28, 2013 4:01 am
Why r we even paying attention 2 this….no way this happens. This is only taking attention away from fights we should b talking about, e.g Mayweather vs Garcis. Garcia vs Manny. Manny vs Prod. Hopkins vs Stevenson/Kovalev. Mayweather vs Sergio. Hopkins vs Floyd will not b happeningPosted October 28, 2013 3:54 am
And as Burnard admitted, Scheafer asked Bernard to make the fight appear exciting, which could mean that he carried the fightPosted October 28, 2013 3:15 am
Murat’s visa problems made Kovalev the new mandatory for Hopkins so team Kovalez was willing to stop negotiations with Cleverly but Hopkins and Scheaffer “publicly” ducked kovalev when they pretended that no one would be interested. Thus Golden boy waited patiently for Murat who was knocked out by the guy that Kovalev knocked out.Posted October 28, 2013 3:10 am
Lol now just watch if this fight takes place and mayweather
Yeah, lets see B-Hop take on FMJ, and the winner takes on RJJ, and that winner takes on Broner, then that winner defends against “the third coming” of Berto…..does everyone see where this is going?Posted October 28, 2013 2:24 am
Murat took Kovalev’s place as the mandatory because Kovalev DUCKED. This has nothing to DO with WHO the BETTER Fighter IS. It has to DO with WHO the DUCKER is. With that being SAID I still have Kovalev in MY personal Top 10 P4P list. Hissydalgo now agrees with ME on that after taking Cleverly over Kovalev.Posted October 28, 2013 2:07 am
This is further confirmation that some of todays champions are less than, eventhough they can win titles…Posted October 28, 2013 2:06 am
BEARS MY memory is GREAT. Hopkins accepted his mandatory before Kovalev took another Fight. WHY do YOU think he wasn’t stripped?? Kovalev passed on the bout to face a LESSER opponent. I BOO that type of ducking.Posted October 28, 2013 2:03 am
Hopkins does not boil down and blow back UP like some of these modern day Fighters. He stays around his weigh in weight like most of the GREATS. IF he weighs in at 160 he’ll be no more than 165 or so on Fight night which is LESS than 20 lbs heavier than Floyd. In that case the BETTER man will WIN and thats Floyd.Posted October 28, 2013 2:01 am
boxtradamous- nowhere can u prove that kovalev ducked hopkins because its not true. kovalev was chasing ALL champs and in EVERY post fight interview said he wanted to become champ as fast as possible first and foremost and would fight anyone. the fastest fight to MATERIALIZE to everyones shock was cleverly. NOBODY was making any moves to fight kovalev. especially not hopkins despite what u think u know. thise of us following kovalev and have now for years know better. hopkins thought he could string kovalev along with false promises. kovalev was not and will never march to that turds drum beat. IF ANYTHING the VALUE $$$$$ of kovalev vs hopkins has gone up since 8 months to a year ago. now we have kovalev saying and doing what he always has and thats “i will fight the best anyone anywhere” as he did with cleverly. kovalev also brutalized white and has stopped guys that have not been stopped. both kov and adonis would PUNISH bernard and thats why bernard wont utter kovalevs name. kovalev is one of the biggest beasts in boxing. at light heavy he has surpassed bernard. kovalev is fireworks INCARNATE. this guy has NEVER and i repeat NEVER HAD A BORING FIGHT. u could compare kovalev to valero in that department. serg “the edwin valero of light heavy” kovalev. kovalev may be transcending valero going beyond, reaching higher heights. kicking it up to notches UNKNOWN. bernard just doesnt compare to kovalev at this time so take the thoroughly thoughtless posts on. kovalev has NEVER ducked a man.Posted October 28, 2013 1:50 am
What happened to you’re over 25 pounds rule Boxtra …….?Posted October 28, 2013 1:44 am
Giving up pounds is not the factor. Giving up SKILLS is the factor. Hopkins would give up too much SKILLS and Speed and take the LOSS.Posted October 28, 2013 1:01 am
Floyd would give up 10 pounds at the weigh-in.
Hopkins would weigh-in at 160 and fight at 175. Floyd would weigh-in at 150 and fight at 150. He would give up 25 pounds in the actual fight.
It won’t happen. Hopkins is looking to duck Kovalev and Stevenson.Posted October 28, 2013 12:43 am
Garbage article!!! This pundit said ” mayweather would give up a lot if weight to fight Hopkins at 160…ohhh really??? It would be Hopkins who would give up 15 p to reach 160!!! Why didn’t
B-hop has a history of telling porky pies. Kovalev and Duva are far more trustworthy than a former convict who swore to his mother on here death bed he’d never fight after he reached 40.Posted October 28, 2013 12:29 am
Nope. Hopkins called Kovalev’s BLUFF by accepting the Fight but Kovalev opted for the EASIER title vs Cleverly. Hopkins ducks NO MAN besides James Toney. I was disappointed in Kovalev not challenging himself by trying to be the first to stop Hopkins. I BOO him on that.Posted October 28, 2013 12:14 am
Kovalev was Hopkins’ mandatory and was guaranteed to fight Hopkins accordking to the rules, but Hopkins simply refused to fight Kovalev HIS MANDATORY! And, of course, Hopkins will not go anywhere near Stevenson either as both Kovalev and Stevenson would knock Hopkins out! Oscar appears to be a damned crook like Don King. Hopkins using excuses to run from Kovalev and Stevenson is a disgrace! The bias by Hopkins’ personal referee was also a disgrace!Posted October 27, 2013 11:47 pm
Hopkins is no Alien. You don’t need a green card if you were born in Philly. He’s not the best light heavyweight either.Posted October 27, 2013 11:30 pm
B-Hop Fraud…….what a post!!! I AGREE with the Trinidad CHEATING Scandal, BUT it seems YOU ARE A BONAFIED HATER when it comes to BOTH these guys! Of COURSE youre gonna say the “HATER” line is overused! BUT YOU MY MAN, are a HATER! When Mosley JACKED UP Margarito, YOU said Mayweather would NOT fight Mosley under NO CIRCUMSTANCES; then when he coats the sugar – your HATER VIBE keeps you QUIET like a petrified OAK TREE!! Canelo was BIGGER & STRONGER and as FIT as TWO LIONS on BUFFALO MEAT, but the fight HURT your feeling as you tuned in to watch, WHY!? You LOST MONEY and Mayweather was SMALLER and more skilled…..did you cry?!! YOUR HATER post CANNOT see ANYTHING in NEITHER GUY!?? YOUR HATE CONSUMES YOU without ANY LIGHT! “The 45 bouts against 19 current or former world Champs in 5 weight classes, winning 4 lineal Championships and defeating more than one HOF boxer” means NOTHING in your HATE FILLED DIATRIBE……did you just get up AFTER watching SAW!!???
Do you know the no nonsense UNDEFEATED Diego Corales when he fought Mayweather; this guys mouthpiece came out thru the side of his CHEEK! Has your HATER self EVER went up against ANYTHING UNDEFEATED……are you watching CARRIE now!???, its a GOOD HATER MOVIE that is probably spurring you on!!! Do you know Carlos Hernandez!? Jesus Chavez(TOP RANKED @ the TIME)!! Did you know Mayweather had a TORN ROTATOR cuff when he fought the INCREDIBLY TOUGH Castillo!!??? Do you KNOW GENARO HERNANDEZ!!?? Oh, I get it, they are WEAK opposition in your book!?
ALL you WANT to see IS NEGATIVE!! WHO in YOUR YOUR HATER WORLD is GREAT in BOXING!??…. I cant even finish this post, BUT YOUR HATE is NEXT to DELUSIONAL! I DO agree on some of your examples concerning Hopkins, BUT the guy is STILL VERY AWESOME as a FIGHTER, he’s taken RISKS that you can ONLY DREAM OF; his REIGN was INCREDIBLE before he CHALLENGED himself AGAINST Roy!!
Wish I could stay….gotta go….Hopefully BOILS don’t erupt on your HATER face – thats what usually happens when youre SUBMERGED in IT like QUICKSAND!!! What is it that guys or women like you truly appreciate!? dead weight? Carcass meat?…..Posted October 27, 2013 11:11 pm
What happened to our great sport?
Boxing in the USA has turned into a freak show, it’s gone way beyond a joke now. I wish we could bring back some credibility to the fight game that has been ruined by the likes of Hopkins and his paymasters. It’s sad to see us, once the best boxing nation in the world, now a laughing stock.Posted October 27, 2013 11:08 pm
This fight is crap man because floyd wouldnt get credit for beating hopkins if he took the fight. Haters would love for the fight to happen because they want to see floyd lose. Somehow someway floyd will be called a coward if he doesnt take the fight. Floyd would be nailed to the wall for the age factor. They trashed him for fighting mosley, just think of the backlash. If i were floyd, i would say 147 or no fight. Floyd is on the a side of this equationPosted October 27, 2013 11:00 pm
Hopkins is looking for an opponent other than Stevenson or Kovalev. Everybody wants to fight Mayweather — so good luck with that.Posted October 27, 2013 10:50 pm
B hop fraud smoke and mirrors is right smack dab on the moneyPosted October 27, 2013 10:34 pm
“Boxing is about SKILLS not weight. B Hop wants to challenge the MOST SKILLED Boxer in the World. Not the 2nd most SKILLED.”
Actually, Hopkins primary goal is the big purse that comes with a match with Mayweather. He could care less if he faces the best or not. He just wants a nice nest egg to retire on.Posted October 27, 2013 10:17 pm
B-Hop Fraud Smoke & Mirrors
And REMEMBER so much of Hopkins’ game is dependent on his use of dirty tricks and fouling. He’s crazy dirty.Posted October 27, 2013 10:12 pm
Even Mayweather tagging & potshoting this guys head to a UD would be BORING!!! Hopefully Mayweather hasnt heard about this yet and NEVER will! I’m gonna paint something, and watch the paint dry if these two decide to fight! or better yet I’ll scrub a sink….Posted October 27, 2013 10:06 pm
B-Hop Fraud Smoke & Mirrors
It’s a marriage made in heaven when you think about it. Hopkins gets to drag another smaller fighter up to a division they haven’t fought at before, or had no right being at, or was 1,2,3 or even 4 weights above the division where they were at their best, as he has done so often in the past (Oscar, Trinidad, Winky, Calzaghe, Pavlik, Carl Daniels, Simon Brown, Lupe Aquino, Andrew Council etc.) and the Catchweight King Floyd gets to fight another past prime great on his record, and at a catchweight. Both of them are notorious cherrypickers. Hopkins is even more calculating with his cherry-picking than Floyd is for my money. Like Floyd he always has to see that weakness, make sure he gets that edge before he’ll take the ‘risk’.
Case in point. This is what he said about him dragging opponents up divisions.
“At the end of the day, if I can get a guy to a weight class where I know he’s not used to or hasn’t been in – why wouldn’t I take that advantage or take that chance.
But he’s also just as calculating with his selection of opponent when he’s not doing that too.
De La Hoya had no right being up at 160 at all. Remember he’d just been whooped by an extremely green Felix Sturm in his fight prior to taking on Hopkins. Even at his best Sturm was nothing to write home about. De La Hoya turned pro at super-featherweight and was at his best between 135-147, Hopkins turned pro at light-heavy.
No question Felix Trinidad was at his best at 147 either. That was the division he forged the bulk of his success in. Remember that Trinidad wasn’t wearing his illegal wraps for the Hopkins fight either. So it wasn’t the same beast Trinidad who had brutalized all of his KO victims. He’d been de-clawed in the dressing room shortly before he was due to make his ring walk, which obviously would’ve badly affected his confidence, knowing that he was now suddenly having to fight on a level playing field for the first time. Obviously Hopkins use of illegal tactics had made it even less level as well.
Light-middle Winky had about as much right being up at light-heavy as Nonito Donaire does of being up at middleweight. A complete farce of a fight. Wright was four divisions above his best weight. And Hopkins had to cheat like crazy in that fight too.
He forced Joe Calzaghe to move up a division too. In fact, he categorically refused to fight Calzaghe at a catchweight despite him having fought Winky and Pavlik at one either side of fighting him. He also refused to fight him anywhere outside of the USA as well. Hopkins got to choose the weight, date, venue, country etc. for that fight. Had he not got it all his own way the fight never would’ve happened.
He made Pavlik move up two divisions, knowing full well that Pavlik’s success down at 160 was soley down to his size and power, which he obviously knew was going to be completely negated at the higher weight. Pavlik is clearly not the force above 160 that he was at it, as his record attests. He’s slower and sluggish when he fights above it and his power is a non factor. You could even see that in the second Taylor fight which was fought at 166 if I remember correctly. No question someone as shrewd and calculating as Hopkins didn’t spot that. Why didn’t he fight Kelly at 160 if he can still make the weight now?
But enough about him dragging fighters up. Let’s focus on some of his other wins.
Remember how he refused to fight Dawson for years? Everyone was saying he was ducking him. But as soon as Pascal exposed the weakness in him Hopkins was suddenly keen on the fight. It’s no coincidence that Pascal utilized a very similar style to Hopkins’ either. Stay on the outside and leap in with sneak attacks and the back out again.
That brings us nicely to Pascal, about whom due to him being over muscled it was common knowledge had real stamina issues. In Hopkins own words ”Pascal is a four round fighter”. Hopkins just had to make it physical and he knew Pascal would be running on empty after the first half of the fight.
Then there was Tavoris Cloud. What happened in his fight prior to Hopkins taking him on? THat’s right he got completely schooled by Gabriel Campillo. Hopkins had never wanted to know before that.
Remember how Hopkins said he was going to go up to cruiserweight to fight Adamek and Haye? But strangely enough nothing ever came of it. Hopkins priced himself again for the Adamek fight, demanding 80% of the purse even though Adamek brought all the fans. He did that after watching Adamek waxing Jonathon Banks. Remember how Hopkins also said he was going up to heavyweight to fight Maskaev and Ibragimov. Once again nothing happened.Posted October 27, 2013 10:03 pm
The ULTIMATE CHALLENGE would be WARD! I DON’T HEAR Hopkins calling HIM OUT!! Let Hopkins accomodate Mayweather if he wants it SOOO bad – let him come down to 150 with a rehydration clause of 152!! Of course I’m being sarcastic, but I’m not being sarcastic when i say, its a DUMB fight!!! Karo Murat had the skilset of Butterbean, while Ward is the MASTER orchestrator! C’mon BHop, are you in the game OR NOT!? No Bully Fights Allowed!!Posted October 27, 2013 9:57 pm
Kovalev already opted to face Cleverly when he was Hopkins mandatory. Now that he is no longer a mandatory opponent the Fight isn’t likely to be made because there’s no huge clamor for it and Hopkins is on Showtime while Kovalev is on HBO. Kovalev vs. GGG or Ward is more likely.Posted October 27, 2013 9:55 pm
Boxing is about SKILLS not weight. B Hop wants to challenge the MOST SKILLED Boxer in the World. Not the 2nd most SKILLED. Mayweather would WIN by NON disputed UD.Posted October 27, 2013 9:43 pm
A LHW is calling out a WW. Yup. This makes perfect sense. If BH wants to drop in weight, he should take on Ward. That’s a much better fight than a guy who barely weighs 150 when he’s bloated. Pathetic. BH should be ashamed of himself.Posted October 27, 2013 9:26 pm
Is like to see Hopkins against QuillanPosted October 27, 2013 9:24 pm
Hopefully Mayweather doesnt fall for this CRAP! Its interesting how Mayweathers name generates so much interest and attention without him probably not knowing: Hopkins is using his name for ATTENTION and POTENTIAL dough!!Posted October 27, 2013 9:21 pm
MMendoza….I couldnt agree with you more!!!Posted October 27, 2013 9:03 pm
Next thing we know BOTH Klitschkos will be calling out Mayweather just to get a piece of the pie. It isn’t like a Mayweather fight won’t bring in at least 5 million for the other fighter with Mayweather raking in 40+ mil. Mayweather should just turn down all of these already FATTER boxers including Hopkins.Posted October 27, 2013 8:55 pm
It seems like Hopkins wants MONEY and not a true CHALLENGE! Bernard can make a CHALLENGE of it, and a little money by facing Dawson again! Dawson may need some dough after his two KO losses; maybe Hopkins can get revenge since Dawson may be temporarily still wounded! Hopkins did it against the SHOT Roy Jones! The only thing is, I think Dawson may get WOUND UP for this fight and MAN HANDLE him AGAIN.
The kid Hopkins fought last night was TOUGH but VERY LIMITED in the SKILZ dept. And while its COMMENDABLE what Hopkins did against this TOUGH, GRITTY, & GAME DUDE: There is FAR better comp out there for Hops to conquer, other than the NATURALLY SMALL welterweight Mayweather!!
He should GO to 160 and EXPOSE the well known GGG that everyone seems to PREMATURELY reverance. Or better yet fight Froch or Stevenson, BOTH are HEAVY HITTERS with a much better skilset than the little Rocky Marciano lookin’ dude with the WILD outta control SWINGS!
48 is a milestone at conquering these YOUNG dudes, but there IS tougher comp out there! we cant allow Hops to coddle his way thru his latter years by giving us “exibition’ matches that simply wet our appetite! That little “Rocky dude” might as well have been in a drunken bar duel – throwin’ them type of punches!
Hops is the REAL DEAL skilwize, but requesting Mayweather is PUSHING IT! I’m a DIE HARD Mayweather fan, but I WOULD NOT WATCH that fight! I would hope that money would be LOST when the actual BUILDING that holds the event FOLDS from the SACRILIGIOUS EMPTY PROCEEDINGS thats taking place ……Hopefully Golden Boy, Hops AND Team Mayweather makes it out alive as the BOREDOM SHAKES CONDEMNS & DESTROYS the building!!Posted October 27, 2013 8:52 pm
Yeah Mayweather can beat Hopkins and prove he is as good as Jermaine Taylor and Chad “Walking KO” Dawson.
That’s enticing.Posted October 27, 2013 8:29 pm
“Makes sense. Why take a beating when you can lose a UD and make millions?”
Exactly. And then retire.Posted October 27, 2013 8:17 pm
Even if Hopkins goes down to 160 what will he rehydrate to? Addtionally, Floyd fights as a jr. middleweight, not a middleweight. Hopkins weighed nearly 180 lbs last night. This guy might be able to get down to 160 but he will be an ineffective old man at that weight, who’s fighting Mayweather only for the money. Speaking of money, my money says Hopkins wants to cash out with a Mayweather fight for just that–cash. Then he’ll retire.
I say NO! to Mayweather/Hopkins.Posted October 27, 2013 8:15 pm
Just because it’s been 10 years since he has KOd someone doesn’t mean he can’t beat Kovalev. That has nothing to do with it. If he couldn’t hit hard enough to gain your respect then everybody would try to walk him down and walk through him. Nobody is willing to do thatPosted October 27, 2013 8:12 pm
Has to be a joke RIGHT ?Posted October 27, 2013 8:12 pm
For the record, I hope it doesn’t happen for many reasons.Posted October 27, 2013 8:08 pm
I don’t recall hearing him say that he wants to fight Floyd. But it would make sense: the path to the biggest pay day leads to Mayweather.Posted October 27, 2013 8:00 pm
I like Hopkins. I like the example he’s setting for good health and living the dream no matter how old you become, because most people make it seem like your chance to achieve greatness ends at the age of 30. However, Floyd Mayweather would do a small disservice to his legacy if he fought Bernard Hopkins. He only has four fights left and most fans want to see him end on a high-note by challenging the top boxers at 147, not hacks like Amir Khan or Grandfathers like B-Hop.Posted October 27, 2013 7:52 pm
Why fight Stevenson, GGG, or Kokoliv, if you can fight Mayweather? Hell it’s hard to blame Hopkins for that, everyone in the sport would jump at the chance to fight Mayweather.Posted October 27, 2013 7:50 pm
Popkins VS FrochPosted October 27, 2013 7:49 pm
Unfortunately, there’s a chance that this fight might happen within the next year…Posted October 27, 2013 7:47 pm
Is trying to cash out and take the least amount of punishment! Y fight triple g, stevenson, or kokolev, risk punishment for chump change? Bhop knows those guy will k.o. himPosted October 27, 2013 7:28 pm
Mayweather vs Hopkins would be the most boring fight ever. There is no need for it. Their styles would bore the fans to Sleep. No interest herePosted October 27, 2013 7:19 pm
I don’t know what you’re smoking, but Hopkins can’t punch. He hasn’t knocked a fighter out in 9 years, and that was Oscar de la Hoya, a natural welterweight.Posted October 27, 2013 7:08 pm
Time to hang them up PopkinsPosted October 27, 2013 7:00 pm
Let Hopkins make 160 . If Floyd doesn’t do it he is not a p4p all time great . Micky walker ect went up and challenged the best . Money doesn’t last for ever and inflation will let Floyd never be mentioned in the breath of the greats . Floyd has nothing to lose exept his teethPosted October 27, 2013 6:57 pm
Woe so much disrespect for hopkins,its crazy.do you think any of the current younger fighters will be able to last as long as him?not even close,just the fact that hes 48 beating guys way younger then him is amazing,who cares if its not always the elite fighters.look at all the elite fighters he took out,and all the young ones who everyone thought would destroy him that he ruined there careers,give respect where its due,and i am saying this,if he could make 160 and fight mayweather he wont win,but i bet it would be more competitive than mayweathers last opponentsPosted October 27, 2013 6:48 pm
Jonn E. JaGozza
if someone wanted to shut up Hopkins they would talk to Wilder and talk him into moving down to light heavyweight and challenge the old B-Hop
Why would he want Stevenson or kovalev? Cash out in a brawl with mayweather and retire as light heavyweight champ, with his last defeat to mayweather pound for pound number 1 :) trust me this fight will happen. He’s got one fight left in him so…what better way to bow out ? Being beaten by an ATG mayweather would destroy Hopkins.Posted October 27, 2013 6:19 pm
BILLY NO MEDALS ALL AMERICAN BOY
what old man hopkins wants and what the boring fart gets is another thing!!Posted October 27, 2013 6:13 pm
I don’t know if I would diss Kovalevs compition. Firat off all he KoED NATHAN Cleverly the same fighter that KOED KarlMURAT . and Koed Compano the same fighter that had a draw with Murat. MY guess Hopkins doesn’t want a part of Kovaleve. Since he don’t wan’t to get his ass kicked by a white boy. The fight was exciting, however Murat landed some solid shots against Hoppkins, Imagine if Kovalev lands one f his shots, hopkins will get crushed by Kovalev.Posted October 27, 2013 6:07 pm
THE REAL AMERICAN OAK
He would out box and out speed stevenson. Kovalev would be another story.Posted October 27, 2013 6:05 pm
I didn`t rate him no1 when he beat Pascal.
He just jumped at Pascal because he got an unexpected shock over Dawson. He chased the low hanging fruit. Even then Hopkins couldn`t beat him first time around like Froch did.
Besides which – Dawson was in the division, and as we have seen Dawson utterly has Hopkins number. You are not number 1 in the division while there is another guy in that division who will always whup you.
Dawson held a version of LHW title from 2007.
Do you see Hopkins go after a LHW title for 2 years – NO, he is busy fighting joke matches with Pavlik and Jones Jnr. THen suddenly when Dawson loses he wants to go for it.
No no no no no. Dawson has Hopkins number, and Hopkins can`t be no 1 while Dawson is active and he hasn`t beaten him.Posted October 27, 2013 6:01 pm
WhahhahahaPosted October 27, 2013 5:58 pm
IMO that fight would not do well at all, how do you even begin to promote a fight between two defensiveley minded fighters separated by 4 weight divisions, in any case it will never happen, its Bhop who is running out of potentially safe but lucrative dance partners, Floyd still has Garcia, Bradley and Pacqioau if he cruises though Rios. Bhop should target Martinez, it would be an easier sell, or Froch in the UK would make him the money he wants..Posted October 27, 2013 5:49 pm
at hopkins advanced age, he’d look like a crack baby trying to get back to 160. He could do it, but it would like Chris Byrd’s last fight. Disaster. Floyd gets an easy UD .Posted October 27, 2013 5:31 pm
Hopkins/Mayweather would be the biggest scam fight in history. I wouldn’t pay a
agree with martin on Hopkins. did not see this bout. left showtime due to their poor cards.Posted October 27, 2013 5:27 pm
NICE guess but Hopkins was just #1 at LHW when he beat Pascal.Posted October 27, 2013 5:18 pm
And why is this blue sh-t appearing?Posted October 27, 2013 5:17 pm
When is the last time Hopkins won by stoppage? What does that tell you? He would be slaughtered by Kovalev. Might have chance against Stevenson, though.
BTW, PEEJ, you are having an off day. heck, the only way Hopkins would have even a remote chance against the Krusher is if Steve Smoger was the referee.Posted October 27, 2013 5:17 pm
Hopkins fights Rigo!!! Rigo will run around him like a rabbit and pepper spray him to oblivion.Posted October 27, 2013 5:04 pm
I would like to see the fight because the only way Hopkins retires is if he reaches 50 or someone actually beats him up. Nobody has been able to do that to him. So I would actually like to see it done.Posted October 27, 2013 4:44 pm
Hopkins the half wit talking shite to stay relivent,now there’s some one worth fighting eg,kovalev or Stephenson he’s wanting to fight at 160 the stupid arrogant boring to watch knob head wish he’d just retire the Cu,nt.Posted October 27, 2013 4:41 pm
If you were b hop would you want to face kovelev or stevenson ? Nope, im not sure b hop should even be allowed to mix it up with those two at his age, but I would watch it, no disrepect to b hop.Posted October 27, 2013 4:39 pm
Until Kovelev actually beats someone like Hopkins then I will take Hopkins in that one. I would like to see the fight but I just think he will win a decision. He hasn’t really fought many guys. He only has like 10 or so fights right?Posted October 27, 2013 4:31 pm
Yea, those other guy’s fight on HBO that’s the reason for not fighting them. The fact that those guy’s can bang has no baring on you fighting them. Floyd is not going to fight B-Hop beacaue B-Hop doesn’t = Money. If the fight did come off, Mayweather is in a no win, he beats an old man no big deal.Posted October 27, 2013 4:29 pm
Makes sense. Why take a beating when you can lose a UD and make millions?Posted October 27, 2013 4:29 pm
This is sickening! Boxing is a joke!Posted October 27, 2013 4:24 pm
Floyd will whip himPosted October 27, 2013 4:18 pm
Hopkins needs to fight Kovalev next..without a doubt.But ofcourse the HUGE payday is against Mayweather in a freak show.Ofcourse Hopkins is looking at some great retirement money at his age…not caring about what the fans want to see…Im not putting Hopkins down he did alot for boxing overall,and at his age its unreal.Theres guys his age that cant walk a couple of miles never mind fight.But to see him fight Kovalev is what the fans really want.Posted October 27, 2013 4:02 pm
Hopkins knows he will end his career getting sparked out if he fights Kovalev. The “loyalty to Showtime” BS is just a convenient excuse so that he can avoid getting KO’d by a “white boy”. Kovalev and Stevenson are just too dangerous for him, so he’s talking about Mayweather instead. But the writer is right: none of these fights will happen, and Hopkins will end his career in the same dull way that he’s always conducted it. In short, Hopkins is never going to be worth watching again (if he ever was), because he knows Mayweather won’t take the fight (and it’d be hopelessly dull even if he did) and Hopkins will definitely avoid Kovalev and Stevenson. Hopkins and Ward? A snoozefest!Posted October 27, 2013 3:54 pm
Na, I think he fights Kovalev next and takes him to school. There is a reason why then went and fought for the other title instead of fighting against Hopkins.Posted October 27, 2013 3:49 pm
Actually I think Schaefer brought it up to him but I don’t think he was serious and Schaefer has already said he has not even discussed it with Floyd. No way Hopkins can make 160 any more. He has put on too much muscle weight.Posted October 27, 2013 3:36 pm
I should’ve sai “an unfair advantage”.Posted October 27, 2013 3:33 pm
First of all, this fight was for Hopkins to win, so there shouldn’t be any surprises there. As for Floyd, in previous interviews Hopkins stated that fighting Floyd wasn’t his ideas…“someone else brought up the issue”…I doubt that.
Nevertheless, why does he insist on fighting a guy that currently is fighting four divisions down? No doubt money is his biggest motivation, but if his ambition is to fight smaller fighters, why not go for guys like Sergio Martinez, GG, Lara, etc. I have no doubt that Hopkins can make 160 because of the way he takes care of his body. But he’ll have an unfairly disadvantage over Floyd.
What’s next? What happens if Floyd declined, would Hopkins go for Pacquiao or even Provodnikov?Posted October 27, 2013 3:31 pm