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I think you’d like to haul in the money he’ll make fighting Fury. If he’s not a fighter they’re certainly putting out a lot of scratch for one.

Posted November 6, 2013 5:32 pm 


Anonymous

david toe haye is not a fighter,he”s a celeb prima donna hype job.

Posted November 6, 2013 4:38 pm 


TARK

Tunney and Dempsey weighed 190… They would never be able to compete at heavyweight today… They would probably fight light heavyweight and and rehydrate to 190 if they were around today.

I don’t see them taking on anyone as strong, fast, and skillful as David Haye and being successful. I give them 5 rounds tops.

There weren’t that many heavyweights in those days… Demspey only defended successfully against 3 heavyweights and 2 light heavyweights in 7 years… Dempsey took 3 years off in the middle of his reign because there was no competition.

Actually… Dempsey was the first guy Willard fought in 4 years.

Posted November 6, 2013 1:12 pm 


Anonymous

at least they were great hw fighters back then,unlike the circus acts today.

Posted November 6, 2013 12:54 pm 


Bulawayo2

Tunney is a much underated fighter, he only lost once in his career, to Harry Greb and I think that was at middleweight, he subsequently fought him five times, winning three of them by decision and two of them were no decisions.
Tunney always reckoned he could have got up without the extra four seconds. Not often given much thought when discussing greats, but Tunney is probably top ten in the heavyweights.

Posted November 6, 2013 12:39 pm 


Old Yank

If the object is to win, then it is not a brain tease: Scoring the most wins. Scoring is an offensive endeavor. Scoring requires overcoming defense. I would never insinuate that defense is not critically important. But in the definition of “winning”, offense is paramount.

Posted November 6, 2013 7:46 am 


TARK

One offensive scoring blow can win a fight.

That makes defense even that more important. Many great defenders were never KO’d, including Tunney.

Posted November 6, 2013 12:10 am 


Old Yank

TARK — I know the history. The “Long Count” is highly debated. But for the purpose of offense v defense, IF (big IF) the count saved Tunney, then one scoring blow would have negated all that fine defense. ONE OFFENSIVE SCORING BLOW!

Nice debate. Appreciate how well you take my ribbing. Peace.

Posted November 5, 2013 10:28 pm 


TARK

When Dempsey went down Tunney did what the rules called for and immediately headed for a neutral corner… is what I meant to say…

Dempsey didn’t do that when he floored Tunney. That might have cost him, but probably Tunney would have gotten up easily even if Dempsey headed for a neutral corner immediately.

Posted November 5, 2013 10:03 pm 


TARK

Tunney-Dempsey was a really good choice..,

Tunney won 19 of 20 rounds off Dempsey in 2 fights. He beat Dempsey so bad Jack retired after their 2nd meeting. Dempsey negotiated 10-round fights because he didn’t want Tunney beating him up for 15 rounds.

Tunney knocked Dempsey down 2 rounds later to get the knockdown back. When Dempsey went down Tunney did what the rules called for and got up before the referee could count him out… But Tunney always said he was fine and could have gotten up at any time…

When Tunney knocked Dempsey down he immediately headed for a neutral corner… The thing is to follow the rules. Dempsey didn’t.

When Ali knocked Liston down he didn’t go to a neutral corner for 12 seconds—but Ali got away with it. The count wasn’t suspended because the referee and the timekeeper didn’t know the rule.

Posted November 5, 2013 9:59 pm 


Old Yank

Tunney over Dempsey is what you want to roll with as your definitive proof that defense trumps offense? Bad, really bad choice!

From a boxing source:

“Round 7 Dempsey pummels Tunney to the canvas. Dempsey, who used to stand over opponents after knockdowns and rush right back at them after they got up, looked down on Tunney. Referee Dave Barry trying to enforce the new rule where the knockdown count won’t begin until the standing boxer is in a neutral corner ordered Dempsey into a neutral corner to no avail; Dempsey just stood there, observing his opponent. This gave Tunney 5 extra precious seconds to recuperate. By the time Dempsey finally walked to a neutral corner, Tunney had been down for around 5 seconds. Again Ref Barry could not start to count on Tunney until Dempsey reached the neutral corner, but he was still able to count to nine before Tunney got up. Some believe that if Dempsey had responded to the referee’s orders in time, he would have likely regained the world Heavyweight crown with a seventh round knockout of Tunney. The validity of this argument has been debated even to this day. In the fight film, a clock was superimposed that recorded Tunney’s time on the floor as 14 seconds, from the moment he fell until he got up. Because of this delay, it became known as The Long Count Fight.”

Posted November 5, 2013 9:35 pm 


Old Yank

And yes…defense has played a critical role in many boxing matches.

Posted November 5, 2013 9:22 pm 


Old Yank

TARK — As we agree to disagree I will remind you of truth from Ancient times: Masada eventually fell to the Romans. And the proof of effective offense overpowering impenetrable defense has not been disproved since.

Posted November 5, 2013 9:21 pm 


TARK

Old Yank.., Defensive mastery is why Tunney beat Dempsey… Johnson beat Jeffries… Wladimir beats Povetkin… Mayweather beat Canelo… Salvador Sanchez beat Wilfredo Gomez… Ward beat Froch… Mikey Garcia beat Juan Manuel Lopez… Danny Garcia beat Lucas Matthysse… Rignodeaux beat Donaire…

I believe defense is the quintessence of Boxing and encompasses the most important elements of the science — and you don’t.

So be it.

Posted November 5, 2013 8:04 pm 


Old Yank

TARK –

You score points with OFFENSE. Without a premature stoppage (KO, TKO, DQ, etc…) you CANNOT win if you score LESS than your opponent. ERGO, OFFENSE is the KEY. PERIOD!

[small print: A great defense provides opportunity for more offense]

And note: In all of the examples you found to take exception with my use of the terms “virtually impossible”, the outcomes all occurred because someone SCORED an offensive shot. Brewster KO’ed Klitschko with an OFFENSIVE shot; Rahman KO’ed Lewis with an OFFENSIVE shot; LaMotta wore Dautille down with OFFENSIVE shots. Defense, no matter how good it was displayed by the LOSER, ended up taking a BACK SEAT of OFFENSIVE SHOTS!

DAMN, of friggin’ course defense is integral and critical; as is effective aggression as is ring generalship. Staying mentally alert without lapses and pacing the burn of your gas tank and so much more is all critical and an integral part of boxing. But SCORING is the path to the “W” and BY DEFINITION scoring is OFFENSE! DAMN!

Posted November 5, 2013 4:45 pm 


TARK

Old Yank.., I said, “Guys who lack defensive skills clinch a lot and louse up the action..” … They do indeed do that.

I did NOT say that guys with great defensive skills don’t necessarily clinch a lot and louse up the action as well.,. Clinching is sometimes necessary for everyone — but it’s a defensive weakness not a strength.

If you were a perfect defender—which nobody is, ever was, or ever will be—there would never be a need to develop outstanding clinching skills.. There is definitely a need to clinch at times … However, when you force your opponent to clinch I believe a point should be deducted from his score.. Clinching is a foul. Clinching is holding and against the rules.

If we called more holding fouls we would see more boxing and less wrestling… I always taught boxers how to clinch with as much finesse as possible — but I still think it sucks to do it a lot… If you need to clinch that much your infighting skills suck to the quasars… Golovkin and Stevens barely clinched at all for 8 hard working rounds last Saturday night… That’s the kind of fight I love to see… All action.

Posted November 5, 2013 4:43 pm 


Old Yank

TARK — No fighter can fight an entire career without a stinker or two. No judge can have as long and distinguished a career as Lederman without a stinker or two.

It makes no difference what Lederman did or did not see in any given bout. What matters is that judges are TRAINED to place greater emphasis on clean, effective punching than on effective aggression, ring generalship or defense. It is the TRUTH!

Posted November 5, 2013 4:30 pm 


Old Yank

And, by-the-way…years ago, at a meeting in Albany, NY (around 1986 or 1987), hanging with a small group of guys I asked Willy Pep if he ever boasted to his corner that he was not going to throw a punch in the next round and that the judges would give it to him anyway and he said “I never said it!” — then he laughed and said “I wish I did!”.

Posted November 5, 2013 4:27 pm 


Anonymous

the art of modern boxing is to hold.

Posted November 5, 2013 4:27 pm 


TARK

Old Yank.., “When Harold Lederman explains judging during an HBO broadcast he lists the 4 components (clean punching, effective aggression, ring generalship and defense) and he ALWAYS adds (as do all judges that know their stuff), that the emphasis is on clean punching.”

Harold Lederman wouldn’t know a clean effective punch from a rat nest.

Lederman had Ricky Hatton ahead of Floyd Mayweather after 6 rounds, even though Floyd had landed 75% of the clean effective punches through round 6… and a point had been deducted from Hatton for fouling.

Lederman also scored Toney-Jirov a draw… When Toney landed 138 more clean effective punches — and decked Jirov hard with one of them.

Posted November 5, 2013 4:23 pm 


Old Yank

TARK — You are correct: It is NOT virtually impossible. I misspoke. Aside from the exceptions of the puncher’s chance; running out of gas; or getting hit by lightning, my statement below is reasonably accurate.

Allow me to fix the misspeak:

So… “Landing [more] CLEAN, EFFECTIVE PUNCHES [in a round] is how one wins [a round] and it is [nearly] impossible (at the championship level) to do so without demonstrating better defense than your opponent [exceptions noted above].

BOTTOM LINE: In sports, the best score wins. In boxing the highest score wins (if the bout is not stopped earlier due to OFFENSE bringoing about an early ending). Scoring is done by OFFENSE. If you want to win, you better score more — therfore…OFFENSE, clean, effective punching (the vehicle for scoring) is paramount.

Posted November 5, 2013 4:22 pm 


Old Yank

TARK —

You said: “Guys who lack defensive skills clinch a lot and louse up the action.. If you get close they’ll grab”.

What a load of crap!

We saw two effective defensive fighters in Hopkins/Wright. There LITERALLY were more combined CLINCHES than punches landed by either fighter. We watched as Hopkins attempted to clinch his way to victory over Calzaghe. Mayweather’s performance against Baldomir was a clinch-fest — Mayweather initiating most of it. The stands were EMPTY after 8 rounds.

I don’t know what brand of crap you are selling here, but you will not find many buyers.

Posted November 5, 2013 4:11 pm 


TARK

@Old Yank…, You say, “The fighter who does get more clean, effective punches landed, AUTOMATICALLY did so as a result of executing better defense, more effective aggression and superior ring generalship in that round! Landing CLEAN, EFFECTIVE PUNCHES is how one wins and it is virtually impossible (at the championship level) to do so without demonstrating better defense than your opponent.” … That’s not true Yank.

It’s NOT “virtually impossible” to win without demonstrating better defense…. Joey Maxim beat Sugar Ray Robinson even though he got hit a lot more. Robinson ran out of gas from over-exertion in the heat. Maxim fought the smarter fight—but was not the better defender.

Wladimir Klitschko lost to Lamon Brewster after demonstrating better defense. He unaccountably ran out of gas for whatever reason.

Lennox Lewis was a better defender than Ollie McCall or Hasim Rahman. He made a critical errors. A split-second lapse of attention is all it takes to lose.

Lauerent Dautuille was a much better defender than Jake LaMotta. He was way ahead of LaMotta on the scorecards of their championship fight. But LaMotta was a better absorber and took everything Dautuille dished out. Dautuille couldn’t absorb LaMotta’s blows and was stopped in the 15th.

Defensive skills are even more critical when your chin is vulnerable… or when you lack size… strength… length… agility… speed… punching power… or other tangible physical advantages over most of your opponents.

With every post, you convince me more and more, that defense is the key.

Posted November 5, 2013 4:09 pm 


123=VI

Remember People pay to see Floyd lose and finally GGG is the real one to not only give Floyd the beating of his BORING boxing life but will take away his undefeated record and 2.2 Million plus another 1.1 Million will gladly pay $75 to $100 to see it on PPV and I’ll be the first one.

Posted November 5, 2013 3:53 pm 


Old Yank

TARK –

In the ENTERTAINMENT business of professional boxing defense is an integral part of the “hit and don’t get hit” equation. There is no on-off switch here that argues that if scoring clean, effective punches is paramount, that defense has no place.

Every sport has offence and defense. Offense is how you score and defense is how you prevent your opponent from scoring. They are BOTH critical. But without scoring MORE than your opponent you CAN’T WIN!

To be sure, Froch attempted to beat Ward via too much emphasis on offense. He scored more in a couple of rounds than Ward did. To be sure, Ward was the better defensive fighter; frustrating Froch’s ability to score. So I clearly get your points. However your emphasis remains misguided. Ward won because his ability to land more clean, effective punches (his offense), allowed him to SCORE and to collect round after round under his skirt. Ward always fights ONE ROUND AT A TIME – planning on SCORING more than his opponent in ONE three-minute bout at a time! It’s about WINNING! And WINNING is about scoring. And SCORING is about OFFENSE!

It is PRESUMED and ASSUMED that if one contestant can be clearly and objectively seen as the one landing more clean, effective punches, then he also is the one with the better defense, more effective aggression and superior ring generalship for that round. Yes, you are correct: a fighter without defensive skills might not be able to get his punches off – hampering his ability to land clean, effective punches. However, the fighter who does get more clean, effective punches landed, AUTOMATICALLY did so as a result of executing better defense, more effective aggression and superior ring generalship in that round!

Landing CLEAN, EFFECTIVE PUNCHES is how one wins and it is virtually impossible (at the championship level) to do so without demonstrating better defense than your opponent. OF FRIGGIN’ COURSE defense is integral to the equation – but it is not THE answer to the equation as you suggest! The answer is SCORING! And that is done by landing more clean, effective punches than your opponent and that my friend is called OFFENCE, not defense.

When Harold Lederman explains judging during an HBO broadcast he lists the 4 components (clean punching, effective aggression, ring generalship and defense) and he ALWAYS adds (as do all judges that know their stuff), that the emphasis is on clean punching.

This is Judging 101 dude!

Posted November 5, 2013 2:35 pm 


SREDMOND

KidBlast, UNLESS that’s not you below at one point you or someone using you screen name says “I avoided a tough question or questions” I then asked WHAT that question was??! Apparently you either did not say that or you are backing away from that position either way it’s of no consequence..

Posted November 5, 2013 1:31 pm 


Anonymous

if you want clinches, watch popkins and the clinchko bros.

Posted November 5, 2013 12:52 pm 


Chuck Morris

Golo takes Floyd to the cleaners.

Posted November 5, 2013 2:47 am 


TARK

One thing you didn’t see in the Golovkin-Stevens fight was clinches.. You saw action… Guys who lack defensive skills clinch a lot and louse up the action.. If you get close they’ll grab.. They will throw 3 quick punches and grab.. I have even seen guys land a KO punch, or knockdown punch, and try to grab right after the punch — but they were grabbing air because their opponent was on the way to the canvas. If clinching is a habit the referee should foul you out … but they don’t do that they just endlessly break you, shouting, “STOP punching.. Break.. Step back.. BOX..” About 200 times in some fights… How exciting … another clinch and break by the referee, followed by more of the same.

Posted November 5, 2013 2:11 am 


Cyber-H@mster

For sure I agree with that – I was using the earmuffs as a very negative example of the type of thing Winky Wright would sometimes do, or to a greater extent Joshua Clottey wasting everyones time against Pacquaio.

I enjoy watching someone parry, slip, duck, roll with punches, draw a lead – actually defending dynamically – making people miss, or defending in such a way you get an opening. That is why somone like Mayweather cna be interesting to watch defend, Herol Graham was interesting to watch defend, James Toney working in the pocket is a joy to watch defend, whereas some people their defence isn`t displaying a great level of skill and frankly bores me.

People who clinch or just guard at the complete expense of any ability to punch.

Posted November 5, 2013 12:37 am 


TARK

@Hamster.., Great defenders DON’T put the earmuffs on.. That’s about as wide a guard as you can get … and pretty defenseless.

A high guard makes you tight—and can obscure your vision.. A great defender is equally ready to block, parry, slip, duck, roll, deflect with a shoulder, or otherwise evade a punch. The better you defend the more chances you get to score. In fact, a great defender is just as ready to punch, if there’s an appropriate opening, as he is to score.

It’s hard for somebody to hit you if he’s got a lot of gloves in his face. And there’s no reason not to punch the living life out of a poor defender.

Posted November 4, 2013 11:55 pm 


Chuck Norris

I`m my hero too thrash.

You have good taste.

Posted November 4, 2013 11:27 pm 


TARK

When both boxers have excellent defensive skills you are more likely to see 12 rounds of great action with a lot of punches thrown.

Posted November 4, 2013 10:50 pm 


TARK

@Old Yank.., There are fights where a boxer’s defense is so poor he doesn’t even get the opportunity to score ANY punches what-so-ever.

Take Crawford Grimsley’s next fight after he went 12 rounds with George Foreman — which was a very boring contest by the way. Both Foreman and Grimsley had poor defensive skills—so they both took very few chances and a fight never happened.

Anyway…, In his next fight Grimsley’s defense really let him down.. The first punch from Jimmy Thunder knocked him out.. The fans paid for 12 rounds of action and got only 2 seconds worth of action.

That’s what NOT having a defense will do for the fans… Not much.

Posted November 4, 2013 10:48 pm 


ThrashNephilim

Bwahahahaha!!!!@ Chuck Norris’ comments!!!

Posted November 4, 2013 10:43 pm 


ThrashNephilim

Chuck Norris is my hero!

Posted November 4, 2013 10:41 pm 


Cliff Richard

Wall? Whoops…

Posted November 4, 2013 9:46 pm 


Cliff Richard

Chuck and Cliff are now getting on wall.. Hooray.

Posted November 4, 2013 9:45 pm 


Cliff Richard

I would be proud to sing at such a great event as this…

Posted November 4, 2013 9:44 pm 


Chuck Norris

Thats good Cliff. The freedom to agree with Chuck Norris is what liberty is all about.

By way of an apology I`d like to invite you to sing at my next birthday party

Posted November 4, 2013 9:13 pm 


Cliff Richard

I was watching Chuck kick ass while you were eating peas, farting like an idiot and toilet bound… Get some perspective Chuck…

Posted November 4, 2013 9:08 pm 


Cliff Richard

imho…

Posted November 4, 2013 9:02 pm 


Cliff Richard

So STFU.

Posted November 4, 2013 9:01 pm 


Cliff Richard

Hey Chuck Norris, I was agreeing with you…

Posted November 4, 2013 9:00 pm 


Chuck Norris

Hey Cliff Richard, Freedom and democracy are not a laughing matter.

I`ll send you on a Summer Holiday….to unconsciousness…..with my spinning heel kick. WHile you are there you can think about how to apologise to that special lady……lady Liberty.

Posted November 4, 2013 8:56 pm 


Cliff Richard

freedom and democracy. lol.

Posted November 4, 2013 8:49 pm 


Chuck Norris

SREDMOND like most latte-sipping New Yorkers is Un-American.

I would like to roundhouse kick him in the head until he learns to love freedom and democracy.

Posted November 4, 2013 8:23 pm 


Kid Blast

GGG says he will fight any one. Mention a name and he says “why not?’ But it’s up to Able not GGG. It’s about money and they will try to make as much as they can with the least amount of risk—if they are smart—like Team Mayweather.

Posted November 4, 2013 7:54 pm 


Kid Blast

SREDMOND, WTF are you talking about. You asked for my position on GGG and I gave it. I have no question. It is what it is and what it is is as follows:

“SREDMOND , I was on the hype train before anyone ever heard about him and I can prove that by the dates of my early articles. That said, I am not ready to anoint him the next coming until he steps up the level of opposition, but so far, I sure like what I see and I have seen him live three times.”

Posted November 4, 2013 7:52 pm 


Kid Blast

B Red , each day that goes by is a day that that is less likely to happen, ya dig.

Posted November 4, 2013 7:50 pm 


ThrashNephilim

As wierd as it sounds, I’m glad you are here though. It’s be boring if we always agreed on and about everything.

Posted November 4, 2013 7:14 pm 


ThrashNephilim

Everyone sees Sredmond’s name and the comment that follows is then invalid. Right SRedmond?

Posted November 4, 2013 7:13 pm 


SREDMOND

Ok Kid Blast so what’s your “hard question” ?? I see your stance so I don’t quite understand you being surprised I think this fighters being oversold as of now..

Posted November 4, 2013 6:18 pm 


Cyber-H@mster

I think you guys are arguing across purposes.

When someone says “Self defence”, that to me relates to learning some form of martial art which is going to be useful should you be in a physical altercation – at any time. So actually defending yourself, when you don`t know if the other guy has a knife, friends around the corner etc – not trying to outscore someone in a sport that has defined rules.

That isn`t what boxing is.

It`s a fair thing to say “Defence is the most important aspect of boxing” and I`d agree that in order to maximise your chances of winning a contest, defence is no1.

The fact is though that in professional boxing, you are asking fans to pay to watch, and the reasons those fans watch are varied.

If you place importance on the $$$’s in that fans pocket that they will give you, then you need to place some importance on that fans expectation from a boxing match and a good percentage of them are not there to watch someone put the earmuffs on.

Posted November 4, 2013 5:39 pm 


Old Yank

TARK — I’ll keep it simple: A fight is won by scoring. Scoring points or scoring a stoppage (of any variety). Scoring is achieved by making clean and effective contact with a punch. The sport of boxing is first and foremost about winning — and winning cannot be done without scoring. And this my misinformed friend is why clean, effective PUNCHING takes the front seat when judging a bout and defense, effective aggression and ring generalship take the back seat. If you can score more clean, effective opunches in a round than an opponent, you win the round! PERIOD [small print: assumes someone who knows how to judge a fight is in charge of a scorecard]

Posted November 4, 2013 5:30 pm 


TARK

Old Yank.., Boxing is indeed that art of self defense above all else.

Defensive masters are happy that most boxers think like you.

They’re happy when opponents take unnecessary chances. That gives them wonderful opportunities to score. They love it when opponents have the mentality of taking two punches to land one of their own. They try to up that disparity to 3 to 1, 4 to 1, or better.

They love it when opponents don’t do defensive drills for hours—so they don’t develop those deft defensive maneuvers, uncanny elusiveness, and the subtle trickeries of mesmerizing legerdemain.

You can go to any amateur boxing card and watch a bunch of determined kids try to punch each other out fight after fight… You don’t get a chance to see a superbly skilled master-boxer like Floyd or Rigo very often.

Punching skills are a big part of Boxing—but not the essence of Boxing. MMA is more offensive, I agree—but the highest paid MMA fighters spend hours each day working on defensive maneuvers and strategies. Don’t kid yourself. In almost every “game” sport, the team with the strongest defense wins the top prize.

Pitchers are defenders. They’re trying to make you miss. Defensive backs and pass rushers are defenders. They’re trying to shut down anything you try—but a boxer’s defense is always on court or field of play so to speak.. Rule number one—Don’t get hit … Rule number two—Don’t forget rule number one.

Every boxer gets hit. The idea is to take damaging punches as rarely as possible—so if you box for 20 years you can still go into any career you want.

Posted November 4, 2013 4:53 pm 


te tumbo

Why is GGG refusing to fight Canelo? is he afraid of him?

Posted November 4, 2013 4:52 pm 


Kid Blast

“The native of Kazakhstan was born to be a fighter and proved it by cruising to amateur accolades as a child. But the fire in his belly, the drive to take his opposition apart, was born from tragedy.The loss of his two older brothers, both killed in action while serving in the Russian army, propelled Golovkin from prominent trophy winner to feared opponent. After all, it was his brothers who pushed him to become a fighter. It was his brothers who gave him the passion for a sport that, at the time, was not yet a commercially viable occupation in the post-Soviet era.”

From the Boxing Tribune.

Posted November 4, 2013 4:41 pm 


Kid Blast

SREDMOND , I was on the hype train before anyone ever heard about him and I can prove that by the dates of my early articles. That said, I am not ready to anoint him the next coming until he steps up the level of opposition, but so far, I sure like what I see and I have seen him live three times.

Posted November 4, 2013 4:30 pm 


Happyboy

You must be really excited about GGG but his resume lacks depth so don’t get too excited just yet or you simply setting yourself up for a real disappointment.

Posted November 4, 2013 4:10 pm 


Happyboy

123 – you need to check your information, you sound like an amateur with all that nonsense you typing.

Posted November 4, 2013 4:08 pm 


123=VI

If 2.2 PPV were sold to see an OVERWEIGHT 172 POUNDS FLATFOOTED STAMINA PLAGUE YOUNGSTER who FORGOT he was Mexican on a Mexican Holiday than 3.5 Million will see the 159 GGG who doesn’t have STAMINA PROBLEM and NOT FLATFOOTED and has MEGA PUNCHING POWER even with the GIRLY grant gloves.

Posted November 4, 2013 3:20 pm 


es

123 why don’t you go and fact check yourself. That part of the negotiations were to be kept private…aka , secret until “nice” guy floyd thought he’d get the upper hand on Canelo and decided to tell the world that it was Canelo who wanted the catchweight. Why in the world would canelo, being the champion, want to go down in weight to fight Floyd….that in itself makes no sense because if floyd was not afraid of fighting anyone for that matter at catchweight…..then he wouldn’t do it and he certainly would not have agreed to fighting Canelo at a catchweight if he knew he could win without that stipulation. Canelo gains nothing by fighting at catchweight. So, want an answer to your question? Think logically and critically if possible.!!

Posted November 4, 2013 3:13 pm 


SREDMOND

Canelos no stranger to catchweight and is Floyd Jesus? If he asked a boxer to wear purple gloves would that be the reason they lost also? Canelo was 153 1/2 when he fought Trout and knocked him to the canvas… Trout hits the ring fight night at 170 plus just like Canelo… Floyd’s like 150, how does 1.5 pounds translate into Canelo being completely ineffective? He had an extra 15 pounds of mass to use against the OLDER boxer but was not allowed to because Mayweather is so skilled…. So what Team Mayweather mocked Team Alvarez ???? Guerrero mocked Team Mayweather saying Floyd’s legs were gone and we see what happened to him…If mind games TRULY won fights Hopkins would also be Undefeated…

Posted November 4, 2013 3:03 pm 


Public Enemy

GGG will make Guacamole out of do nothing Cinnabum.. guranteed KO for GGG..

Posted November 4, 2013 2:44 pm 


toosalty

123=VI

You sound really dumb. GGG=Green,Gullible, and Generic. IS FLOYD THAT GREAT that you have to go to the 160s to find someone for him to fight. why not ward because you guys are all the same want to see FM loose so bad you dont care if it were the Kbrothers to fight him.FM could make 135 and 140. walks around at 147-150. GGG beat a very small guy a good c class dude. Got hit alot in doing so. Ward would finish him in 3 rds, he CANT BOX, he CANT THINK, he only knows one way to fight. If you back him up he will loose.

Posted November 4, 2013 2:33 pm 


123=VI

Canelo ask for the 152 catchweight and not Floyd, Floyd team said they were willing to fight Canelo at 154 for the 154 WBC belt REMEMBER its on TV and on all the Sports media starting with the Showtime special, so now GGG is willing to come down from 159 to 154 for Floyds 154 WBC belt its plain and simple and makes a lot of sense and PPV MONEY….GGG The African-American ASSASSIN.

Posted November 4, 2013 2:15 pm 


123=VI

Floyd MOCKED and Blamed Canelo managers for asking the 152 catchweight because Floyd was willing to defend his 154 belt so now GGG is willing to come down from 159 to 154 to fight Floyd for his 154 WBC belt……..GGG The African-American ASSASIN.

Posted November 4, 2013 2:07 pm 


SREDMOND

Lime jay, if he turns out to be a future MW ruler ai will tip my hat as well… I don’t fight reality or rewrite the outcome of bouts like some do on here… (Bears, Tark)

Posted November 4, 2013 1:30 pm 


SREDMOND

In the addled brains of Floyd Mayweather detractors HIS prime is perpetual! The man is immune to the ravages of time, harsh training and the abuse that comes with boxing and sparring… He will be 37 but should he lose folks will claim “that was the best version of Mayweather seen in the ring” GREAT fighters get there by accomplishing accolades over a period of time. The same fools will say “Canelo was too young”
Some have said “Garcia should wait” why would these YOUNG men have waited? What if Ali, Holmes, Tyson and others had “waited” they might NEVER have gotten a shot at the brass ring… I remember BITTER fools claiming Vitali was “Green” when he fought Lewis meanwhile the man was 31 with 8 years pro experience… The point is that an excuse will be made for EVERY Mayweather opponent no matter WHAT… Marquez knocked Pacquiao out YEARS after Floyd dusted him coming off 21 months of inactivity… Thomas Hearns and Hagler BOTH get huge cred for beating Duran a former 135 pounder meanwhile Mayweather began at 130 and dispatched Maqruez prior to his Greatest victory…. We KNOW Floyd Mayweathers BEYOND anything in boxing today because his attackers ONLY see hope in the 160 pound class, if he were a regular WW they would just pick a guy and say this dude will wallop Floyd… This was tried with Manny but he got raped by his fellow 130 pound compatriot Marquez… Can you imagine guys calling for GGG vs Pacquaio??? Floyd Mayweather has 4 lineal Championships which means he went to the source no matter who that was and won… Over 20 current or former world Champs dispatched… AGAIN this is boxing but of guys cannot respect the OBVIOUS nature of Floyd’s accomplishments over time why would I be overly impressed with GGG’s padded resume..

Posted November 4, 2013 1:28 pm 


Limeyjay

Sred….it’s all cool fella.
Time will tell us what level of fighter golovkin is……not us posting our thoughts on an Internet forum.
I,m not planning on going anywhere soon, so I look forward to watching golovkins career unfold, and if he reaches the heights I , and many others think he will reach, then I can be happy that my eyes and mind were not playing tricks of the ” Lacey” kind.
If it goes tits up, and he gets shown as a B level bully…..then I,ll have to admit that I got it wrong.
Up to now I have enjoyed watching him go about his work with such confidence, I hope that continues as he has real fan friendly style.

Posted November 4, 2013 1:19 pm 


SREDMOND

Kid Blast, I see you have joined the GGG hype train and perhaps you’ll be rewarded in the future but as of today you’re another guy treating Golovkin as if he’s Andre Ward dispatching World Champions with ease and sending them back to their countries with EXCUSE, BADLY BRUISED EGOS and a CRISIS of Confidence…. Sooooooo you think Golovkins the best in the biz? best MW or what’s your call?

Posted November 4, 2013 1:01 pm 


SREDMOND

Really Kid Blast, what’s YOUR tough question? And why do my answers to the aforementioned “Tough Question” hold such sway over you if my perspective does NOT have WEIGHT…?? But fire away!!

Posted November 4, 2013 12:57 pm 


SREDMOND

Lime jay, liking GGG over Barker, Murray and others is fine and there is a sound argument…That said there is a CLEAR gap between Barker, Murray and the likes of Ishida, Ouma, Stevenson and Rosado… Can GGG generate those relatively uncontested stoppages against that Class of foe? That’s a question to be answered in the ring…You are reasonable enough to recognize FMJ as a very ELITE/Best Fighter but there are others who will dismiss ALL of Mayweather accomplishments against heavily credentialed fighters in lieu of GGG beating C class opposition… This is part of the reason I cannot understand the lack of consistency in play and OVERHYPING ie everyone Ward, Martinez and Mayweather “are supposed to be diminished” because GGG can take down a Stevenson type? Meanwhile Martinez stopped Williams, shredded Pavlik and stopped Barker in the
12th with a broken nose…Floyd dominates Canelo, Cotto, Guerrero and anyone else you can think of….Its cool to be excited about a new fighter but he’s gotta prove his worth against sound comp…

Posted November 4, 2013 12:55 pm 


Kid Blast

SREDMOND never answers TOUGH questions. Good defensive maneuver.

Posted November 4, 2013 12:54 pm 


Kid Blast

Tark, Perez would color Wilder crimson red.

Posted November 4, 2013 12:52 pm 


MJ

Floyd has already lost to Castillo. Castillo is Julio Cesar Chavez’s former sparring partner, who he is plainly a much lesser and inferior version of. Castillo had lost four times before he beat Floyd, mostly to journeymen.

A semi-retired way past it De La Hoya, who’d seen a mere 6 incomplete rounds of action in a few months shy of what was 3 whole years, and had lost 3 of his last 4 fights going in if you count the Sturm robbery — to be fair many feel the second Mosley fight was also controversial — and subsequently ended up losing 2 of his last 3 fights after that, came very close to beating a prime Floyd.

The 2 opponents De La Hoya did manage to get the better of during the last 5 and a half years of his career and 7 fights were a shot Ricardo Mayorga who was never the same after getting every ounce of stuffing pounded out of him by Trinidad, and journeyman Stevie Forbes who lost 9 of his last 13 fights. The 2 lone victories Forbes scored after losing to De La Hoya came against complete nonentities.

There’s no questioning that the version of De La Hoya who took Floyd so close was a mere shadow of his former self or that a prime version of him would’ve beaten Floyd out of sight. And let’s not forget De La Hoya is a good few rungs down the the ladder below the true greats.

Floyd doesn’t only not beat great prime fighters, he never fights them. This is obviously by design. He’s even admitted to it, both implicitly and explicitly at various different intervals. This is someone who has ”been at the top for 17 years” and is ”the sport’s cash cow who everyone wants a piece of” but has never once fought a great fighter who was in their prime. This is without a shadow of a doubt not a coincidence. But he would beat all these beat great prime fighters? Do me a favor.

As crazy and far-fetched as it seems to those of us outside the walls of the lunatic asylum, this is the kind of fanciful gobbledygook these mentalists want to convince us all is actually steeped in reality.

Posted November 4, 2013 12:47 pm 


Thurmal Underwear

WOW; 538 comments. You’d think it was a Floyd Mayweather post. Folks are in a frenzy over GGG. Haters lined up!

Posted November 4, 2013 12:29 pm 


toosalty

Man will yall stop with FM talk fighting GGG yall sound really dumb trying to talk up that fight. GGG is TOO BIG FOR FM. GGG has plenty of options, lets see him get a boxing lesson put on him by Ward. Ohhhh yall dont wanna talk about that do you? You would rather him fight someone that could really make 135 and the 140s right. From what I seen on Saturday GGG gets beat by Martinez. I mean the guy Stevens was about 5’6 or 5’7, Waaaaaay smaller than GGG. You guys are so funnuy on this site. I mean it wouldnt even be a contest if he fought Ward. Martinez would Stop or out box him. GGG stalker, stand up straight European style, would loose to a pretty good alethletic slick boxer with some pop. I mean Stevens was sooo much smaller than this guy, and yall want to act like GGG did something CMON im not buying this. Be reall with yourself, he beat a good decent waaaay smaller guy, well he should have.

Posted November 4, 2013 12:02 pm 


Limeyjay

I don’t think anyone would argue that floyd would be the hardest fight below 160lbs for golovkin…..that’s how I feel , just because floyd is so good at not getting hit, and so very good at hitting back when the other guy misses.
This thread is not all about floyd and golovkin though..so let’s not get sidetracked.
As for barker and the rest …..I wouldn,t give them much chance of beating floyd , despite their physical advantages, I just don’t think they are good enough to beat floyd, golovkin might……but you still gotta hit floyd to beat him, and so far in his career no-one has been able to do so with any regularity…..with golovkin you feel it might only take one big shot, so thereis always a chance….a slim chance, but a chance nevertheless.

Posted November 4, 2013 11:02 am 


Limeyjay

Sred….( coup )
I hear ya Martinez deserves his top dog status that he has earned ,and rightfully so…..but I have no doubt that should they meet in the near future, then the torch will be passed.for me golovkin makes light work of Martinez…..I may well be wrong, it certainly won’t be the first time….but I cannot see ascenario where Martinez gets his hand raised, I thought all the Brit boys done well against Martinez and made him look pretty ordinary for the most part, especially Murray who I believe won the fight, on neutral soil he would surely have got the nod.
And as you say the Brit boys are a good rung down from Martinez in most peoples eyes, it’s only a matter of time for golovkin to clean up the division.
That’s my opinion for what it’s worth.

Posted November 4, 2013 10:54 am 


SREDMOND

Floyd Mayweather has HARDLY played it safe both Canelo and Cotto had the power to stop him if they could land with proper authority on the defensive master but he’s too slick for that.. Golovkins no better than any other MW fighter in the ring with Floyd Mayweather absent Martinez who actually has or had above average handspeed for the weight class… Martin Murray, Barker, and Chavez Jr have the SAME advantages over Floyd SIZE, STRENGTH AND POWER that are benefits of being much BIGGER men… Beyond that none would win more than a round off Floyd Mayweather if they were 147 pounders… Some assert that Floyd’s “being safe not fighting MW’s” HMMMMMMM that would mean technically GGG’s Playing it 15x safer being going after undersized competition that cannot hurt him but somehow this does NOT register with those who yearn to see Floyd lose…The need a way to take his skills off the table and after the BIGGER Alvarez they decided that we gotta go up ANOTHER weight class and see if someone can land the big punch… Floyd’s gonna be 37 and he’s not stupid, the mans NOT giving some I decorated MW with no fan base absent these message boards a shot… Golovkin might ACTUALLY have to make his name at 160 or above… Sorry to say kids!

Posted November 4, 2013 10:48 am 


SREDMOND

Golovkin is NOT the “Top Fighter” at 160 that’s just a ridiculous statement and one of the reasons I have to be so hard on you guys in terms of Bubble Bursting… Until he loses or Retires Sergio Martinez is the rightful TOP MW in the World, he won his title in the ring against the Lineal Champ and has booked multiple defenses against ranked opposition… If GGG is really the future of the weight class then when this attempt at a “Cous” ????? We all know Martinez is battling injuries that occurred while facing some of the tougher customers at the weight class sooner or later GGG’s gonna have to make his case against better than a C level fighter or just dethrone Martinez which is the optimal scenario for himself and the sport… As of right now he’s riding the HBO hype train and a padded resume….

Posted November 4, 2013 10:30 am 


Drago

No danger at all for a K there. Wlad could take both on a single night. Even Perez was swollen, huffing and puffing and throwing wild punches.

Posted November 4, 2013 9:40 am 


Old Yank

Yes indeed, the sport of professional boxing has defensive standouts in its glorious history. In the tens of thousands who have plied the craft of professional boxing, the defensive standouts are the EXCEPTIONS and NOT the RULE. TARK would like you to believe that boxing is about the one-offs; about the exceptions and not about the rule. NONSENSE!

Posted November 4, 2013 9:34 am 


Old Yank

TARK —

The PROFESSIONAL sport pf boxing is about ENTERTAINMENT first, last and always. It is NOT first about the art of self defense. What a load of horse crap! We pay to be entertained. And professional sportsman are paid to entertain.

Boxing self defense? HORSE CRAP! James Toney could not defend crap when placed in an MMA cage. He was beaten EASILY! REALLY, REALLY EASILY!

Floyd Mayweather, Manny Pacquiao, Andre Ward and all the best of our day cannot compete in a sport where one truly needs to defend himself.

Professional boxing is entertainment in the stand-up variety of hand-to-hand combat.

If all of boxing “entertained” like Rigondeaux’s (and TARK’s definition of pro boxing being first and always about the art of self-defense), the sport would be DEAD in very short order.

This is PROFESSIONAL ENTERTAINMENT first, last and always — defense is even scored secondarily to clean, effective punching. The most basic rule in Judging 101 is to place emphasis on clean, effective punching — NOT emphasis on DEFENSE!

Get a life Tark, you are full of crap!

Posted November 4, 2013 9:29 am 


Jonn E. JaGozza

Let’s try to keep our posts to the sport of Boxing and NOT politics,
Golovkin fought a perfect fight he was relentless and kept the pressure on throughout the fight … Stevens had a good record but his performance proved to me that he never knew what to do with an opponent who is on him all the time The last thing any fighter should do, is to back up and absorb the shots, Now, that’s not too smart. If Stevens got any brains he needs to find a different trainer, HOWEVER, I think he should get out of the business or he’ll end up getting killed. He’s no Floyd, or Broner and to trash talk an opponent the way he did only proved that what he got int his fight he deserved. I guarantee he’ll never trash talk any one that badly again … that’s, for sure. … I want GGG to fight next Canelo, Canelo is hungry and pissed off at himself for the poor showing he did against Floyd… he’d come in hungry and ready for war .. that has to be the next fight .. Stevens should retire if for any other reason for his poor, pitiful performance against the guy …. it wasn’t just pitiful, it was embarrassing …… and he’s a professional fighter ? …. PEACE … Boxingdictionary.com

Posted November 4, 2013 8:44 am 


Haimat

Imagine Floyd “Money” Mayweather making such a statement. What a waste!

Posted November 4, 2013 7:16 am 


Haimat

My conscience won’t let me go shoot my brother, or some darker people, or some poor hungry people in the mud for big powerful America. And shoot them for what? They never called me ni**er, they never lynched me, they didn’t put no dogs on me, they didn’t rob me of my nationality, rape and kill my mother and father… Shoot them for what? How can I shoot them poor people? Just take me to jail.” – the Greatest Of All Time, the Great Muhammad Ali

Posted November 4, 2013 7:15 am 


Muhammad Ali Hero?—Not!!!!!!!

Muhammad Ali was a great fighter, but he was a draft dodger and much worse. In my book he will never be a great American. He was certainly no Joe Louis, a black man who proudly served his country in World War II and was rightfully referred to by Jimmy Cannon as “a credit to his race — the human race.”

Ali is a credit to no one but himself. His war record, along with the alimony he is forced to pay to four ex-wives, tells me more about Muhammad Ali than anything he ever did in the ring.

Posted November 4, 2013 6:00 am 


Muhammad Ali Hero?—Not!!!!!!!

Former heavyweight champion Muhammad Ali may have been great fighter, but he was also a shameless draft dodger, who refused to fight for his country in the Vietnam War.

Posted November 4, 2013 5:59 am 


Muhammad Ali Hero?—Not!!!!!!!

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Posted November 4, 2013 5:58 am 


Haimat

GGG is clearly the top dog at 160. I’d like to see him move up and face the best at 168 or move down and fight the best at 154. Floyd knows he’s in a world of trouble against GGG since he can’t punch hard enough to keep GGG off him. That fight won’t happen. Floyd is into safe bets.

I see GGG staying at 160 for a few more fights and then moving up to 168 where he’ll face guys with similar power.

Posted November 4, 2013 5:51 am 


Haimat

Tark, “Boxing is the art of self defense—first, last, and always. You can be born a great puncher like Golovkin, but you still need to defend yourself to keep from becoming another tragedy like Muhammad Ali.”

Everybody knows you love GGG to death but listen, first of all, Muhammad Ali ain’t no tragedy. He’s the most important person within sports of the 20th century. He transcended the sport of boxing and did more for the African American population than any president or other public figure has ever done. The man is a proud living legend, very far from tragedy.

Ali had 24 something fights after the rumble in the jungle which made him sick. It had nothing to do with his “poor defense” GGG has big holes in his defense and was hit clean on the chin several times against C-level Stevens. Let him fight 61 fights against the best out there. Let’s see the shape of him at age 40…

Posted November 4, 2013 5:48 am 


punch

GGG is the best at 160 and will beat Kid Chocolate, Martinez and the list goes on. His Challenges are waiting for him at 168 and 175, but I’ll wait till he’s at least cleaned out his own division before calling him the real deal.

Posted November 4, 2013 5:13 am 


TARKSTER- I am old and I am COLD.

redmond……doesn`t it insult your nig pride that your New York boy Quillin won’t get in the ring with Golovkin since he is afraid that he`ll get zinged. Quillin has never faced a great boxer puncher, and when he does face one in Golovkin he`ll take a whipping.

I thought you darklings had some kind of fighting pride to compensate for the obvious intellectual inferiority that resulted in you not being able to invent more than a spear by the time the white man had a machine gun.

Well I guess it is true what it says in the bible about how we will know the devils underlings by the Lord hoisting upon them a darkening of the skin, so that all the righteous may know that these are the creatures of Satan.

Posted November 4, 2013 4:52 am 


Cyber-H@mster

Wait JJ sorry I read that wrong – I though you called me a piece of shieeet but it was Hopkins. So you are right on the money.

Apologies

Posted November 4, 2013 4:44 am 


Adrian

And I really feel bad about abdulsamov … I hope he recovers soon that’s the most important thing for him now , his carriere is sadly over that’s boxing , the same thing happened to me.

I hope he recovers 100%

Posted November 4, 2013 4:07 am 


Adrian

Hate to say it I told you so …but I follow a lot boxing but especially haveyweight devision and I usually like to check for talents and out of all new haveys in the scene I liked two of them and I named them here a year ago and those are , mike Perez and Stevens bujaj I liked what I saw in them and I was right , well so far in Perez case and bujaj will have to see , he has only 8 fights and is young and for now only 200 pounds and fights as a cruiserweight but I am sure sure he will move up and do well there , he is a two time golden glove winer in New York and is very talented …as for Perez now most so his skills and as a southpaw he is the one that can upset wlad ! You heard it here !

Posted November 4, 2013 4:01 am 


Cyber-H@mster

JJ – boy you gotta stop eating your mommas cum-crusted undies. It`s affecting your brainbox

Posted November 4, 2013 3:34 am 


Fight Aficionado

“Hopefully Mago pulls through and let’s also hope that what has happened won’t harm Mike Perez’s outlook either” – Cosign KL. It’s a tragedy for everyone involved. Two undefeated prospects with the world in front of them are being punished for having the guts to fight each other instead of cherry pick bums. I just hope Mago fully reovers and Perez isn’t haunted by this. Some boxers are affected terribly by these things. Mainly I hope Mago can have a normal life.

Posted November 4, 2013 3:14 am 


Fight Aficionado

Magomed Abdusalamov had brain surgery and part of his skull removed today due to a blood clot as a result of last night’s loss to Perez. Let’s hope he recovers.

Posted November 4, 2013 3:09 am 


Doom

B Red ain’t you learned anything yet? Floyd don’t fight opponents that present a real threat. He runs from them and loses his urge, ya dig?

Posted November 4, 2013 3:08 am 


B Red

Floyd will take Triple G to school, ya dig

Posted November 4, 2013 3:02 am 


JJ

Cyber H@mster Hopkins is more than a fart he’s a piece of shieet .

Posted November 4, 2013 2:56 am 


TARK

Perez-Mago produced an opponent for Wilder… Or if Wilder’s team isn’t exactly interested … it produced an opponent for Jennings.

I would love to watch either matchup.

Posted November 4, 2013 1:31 am 


ThrashNephilim

Credit to Mago for bangin to the final bell. That injury happened in the second round!

Posted November 4, 2013 12:56 am 


ThrashNephilim

Perez can crack and his chin is nice. I would favor him against alot, if not most top ranked heavies after seeing him. They should toss him in there to bang out Deontay Wilder.

Posted November 4, 2013 12:54 am 


ThrashNephilim

I feel bad about Mago. Geez! Perez is no joke! I thought Mago was complaining about a broken nose more than most other boxers have but no wonder. I feel terrible. I really hope he’s ok. That explains alot after finding that out why he kept asking.

Posted November 4, 2013 12:52 am 


Cyber-H@mster

Hopkins is irrelevant. Its like someone farted into the sofa of boxing, and now a week later when someone else just flops down on the sofa, a bit of week old fart drifts out.

That is Hopkins. Just a dirty old smell.

Open the window and try to ignore it till it goes away.

Posted November 4, 2013 12:31 am 


Cyber-H@mster

Get Perez in there with Solis.

Hasta la victoria siempre.

Posted November 4, 2013 12:29 am 


JJ

I agree with Codine. Hopkins is always playin the victim card. Sad thing is brainwashed Hopkins believe his lies. People don’t want boring. Seeing a clinch fest all night long including dirty fighting is what Hopkins is a master of. Couldn’t be more happier to see Hopkins leave this sport.

Posted November 4, 2013 12:28 am 


BEARS

both perez and mago got hit and hurt with bombs. mago got it worse. i dont know who made this match and how but this match making was crazy unexpected. what happened to mago is worse than what happened to baby joe macy. magos done boxing and that sux. i hope he pulls through in good condition. perez has been so idle and in lack luster fights for so long he almost fell off the map completely. are we witnessing the rise of perez now?

Posted November 4, 2013 12:12 am 


KL

Hopefully Mago pulls through and let’s also hope that what has happened won’t harm Mike Perez’s outlook either, Perez is too skilled to be left out of the mix.

Posted November 3, 2013 11:45 pm 


Jake

No other fighter is as dirty as Bernard Hopkins. The way he kept slamming Winky Wrights head. Echols Hopkins was a dirty basterd. Hopkins should be banned. His circus antics in the last Murat fight really showed who he is. Glad Murat fought dirty give back to Hopkins what he has been giving for years.

Posted November 3, 2013 11:25 pm 


Cyber-H@mster

@the prince….I`ll actually admit to being an utter hypocrite when it comes to styles.

I like watching the good action fights, but when I did have a few amateur fights back in uni, I fought technical, boring and by the numbers which is actually in completely contrasting character to how I play or fight in any other sport I have participated in.
It wasn`t the way I intended to box either, I wanted to fight like Naz and bedrawing people in and launching lead uppercuts from all over the place.

Get your bell rung a couple of times though and you realise that your head is for thinking with, not to be used as bait to create an opening.

Posted November 3, 2013 11:03 pm 


Gus

Hopkins is a fraud. He is a c to b rated fighter. The legend stuff is a bunch of crap.

Posted November 3, 2013 11:02 pm 


TARK

@Hamster.., The knockout comes by itself.. You can’t push it or you’ll run into something. I don’t necessarily want to see a knockout because I know the best boxers don’t get KO’d. If you’re outpunching your opponent 4 to 1 like Golovkin did last night, you’re undermatched. Mismatches can produce spectacular KO’s, but they don’t produce drama and 12 rounds of scintillating action.

Who wouldn’t want to see Golovkin-Ward or Ward-Kovalev??? There’s a strong possibility those matchups wouldn’t produce a KO … What they would produce is great boxing matches that would thrill everyone.

BTW.., Don’t hold your breath for fights like those to happen.

Posted November 3, 2013 10:38 pm 


Codine

Hopkins can shut his big mouth. That cheating piece of you know what sure does seem concerned about his all of his opponent’s heath and safety when he’s ramming his head into their faces at a 100 miles an hour and rabbit punching the back of the heads. This is a really dangerous sport, let me use my head as weapon. Nice logic there.

And I’ve rarely ever heard anyone criticize Leonard for his fighting style. He was actually exciting, hence why he was such a big star. Hopkins also lumped Ray Robinson with the slick ”boring” black fighters in that poor me rant he went on the other day. The guy is full of it. He was just doing what he always does, playing the victim again.

People criticize fighters like Hopkins because he’s overly negative and uses lots of illegal tactics, illegal fight spoiling tactics, illegal tactics which are dangerous. There’s a big difference between using your skill to avoid getting hit and just plain cheating and fighter like him use way too much of the later.

There’s a balance between fighting too aggressively with scant regard for defence and just pot shooting and holding and running. Ray Leonard was a terrible example for Hopkins to use to illustrate his argument, because as I said he was actually exciting most of the time.

Take last night’s fight between GGG and Stevens, GGG didn’t take too many risks because he was respectful of Stevens’ power, but it was still exciting. Now compare his performance to Andre Dirrell’s against Stevens. Dirrell ran all night and the fight was an absolute stinker. The crowd were booing at the end because they’d paid good money to see some semblance of a fight, but all they got was a track meet.

Whether some want to admit to it or not boxing is an entertainment sport and if every fight was like that the sport would die a quick death. You don’t have to lead with your face and eat punches all night like Magomed, but by the same token you are still there to provide entertainment for the fans.

Posted November 3, 2013 10:35 pm 


The Prince

And for those who don’t like pure boxers; why are you watching the sport of boxing? Because that’s the real craftsmanship of the sport.

Posted November 3, 2013 10:30 pm 


The Prince

I personally respect both pure boxers and talented brawlers. However, I don’t like when people are cheering for murder, then pretend to act sad when they witness it. If you’re a brawler fan, then don’t complain if one of those type of fighters sustains a serious injury after a fight. Respect that the brawler put it all on the line and fell on his shield. Don’t start singing the blues, after you demanded a rock concert.

Posted November 3, 2013 10:26 pm 


BEARS

i dont like runners and anticlimatic anti action fights andfighters. anti action fights now theres an oxy moron. a ton of people buy fraud ppv’s to see him loose and at the end of the day thats a fact. they sure as heck dont buy pac ppv’s for defensive appreciation lol.

TARK- always had a forecast of fraud over canelo by decision. even almost called the score. noone expected canelo to outbox floyd. many of us thought that canelo could mug him, let his hands go, and overwhelm him especially in the corners on the ropes and if it got stationary. canelo didnt have the stamina to do this. even michael strahan was excited about the fight. nobodies excitement was misplaced. i said floyd has to be favored to win a decision but in my forecast i was taking the underdog canelo who i find to be a more entertaining fighter than fraud imo.

Posted November 3, 2013 10:25 pm 


Cyber-H@mster

@TARK…”Boxing is the art of self defense—first, last, and always”

I understand why you say that, but there is an essence in which I don`t think it is true. A boxer CHOOSES to learn boxing and to fight. If they wanted to really defend themselves – they just don`t get in the ring and then they can`t get hit.

Posted November 3, 2013 10:22 pm 


Gus

At least GGG comes to fight. You’ll never see that from a Andre Ward or Hopkins

Posted November 3, 2013 10:15 pm 


Cyber-H@mster

@the prince…..I don`t think it is that people want to see rock’em sockem’s so much as they appreciate a positive mindset.

Ultimately when I watch a fight, I do want to watch two guys whose intention and gameplan is to go for the stoppage victory.

As an oversimplified example – lets say there are two boxers, A and B. A is that much more skilled than B, that he can land 3 times as many punches.

Now do I want to watch a fight where A lands 30 to B’s 10 and wins a UD or do I want to watch the fight where A decided to push it a bit and lands 90 to B’s 30 and gets a stoppage win?

Me I want the guy who will go for the stoppage.

Posted November 3, 2013 10:12 pm 


Tomato Can

Agreed, Tark…

Posted November 3, 2013 10:11 pm 


Sam

Tark how’s the diaper fund going? Mork really opened up and stretched out your butt hole. Rumors are you have put a full size pumped up basketball in your as zzz hole. Is that true ?

Posted November 3, 2013 10:10 pm 


TARK

Right Tomato Can.., Boxing is the art of self defense—first, last, and always. You can be born a great puncher like Golovkin, but you still need to defend yourself to keep from becoming another tragedy like Muhammad Ali.

Entertainment isn’t only punching people out. Most fans appreciate great defensive skills and clever footwork just as much as punching ability.

Floyd Mayweather is the biggest drawing card of all time. He’s not a great puncher.. He’s the best defender ever.. How do you explain his popularity?

Posted November 3, 2013 10:10 pm 


Tomato Can

Prince might not have mentioned Wald, but he’s still correct. No one wants to see fighters put in coma’s other than a few extreme fans.

Posted November 3, 2013 9:55 pm 


TARK

Priince says.., “Jermain Taylor who was trained to be a skilled boxer, decided to let other people tell him to brawl with fighters.” LMFAO

He was no brawler.. He as a runner when he fought anyone good.

Taylor always had a million holes in his defense, and he was never a mixer.. He was always a very tentative puncher.. Winky Wright and Hopkihns both kicked his ass—so he already had 3 losses when Pavlik knocked him TFO.. And lucky for Boxing he kept getting KTFO..

He never could fight to begin with.

Posted November 3, 2013 9:53 pm 


Anonymous

SREDMOND, If GGG were black, would you be arguing this way?

Posted November 3, 2013 9:46 pm 


Anonymous

proud african, prince, sredmond, punch, these are some people who should be in a coma instead of mago.

Posted November 3, 2013 9:45 pm 


Anonymous

of course dumb ass bigot prince doesnt mention wlad, who never gets hit.

Posted November 3, 2013 9:44 pm 


TARK

Sredmond…, You NEVER saw me write ANY words that Canelo would beat Floyd.. I ALWAYS said Floyd would win.. I never changed the odds I had.. The only change I ever made was that Canelo looked parched for the weight-in and I thought he’d box conservatively to save his energy..

I alway said Floyd would win a close decision, the fight would go 12, and the outside score would be 116-112… OK, I was a round off… The thing is you said Floyd would KO Canelo — and you keep saying that I had the same pick Bears had which makes you one total lying MFer.

Posted November 3, 2013 9:41 pm 


The Prince

It’s sad when any boxers sustain serious life threatening injures, but that’s why the sport is called ‘boxing’. It’s the art of hitting without being hit. Everybody wants to see rock’ em, sock’em robots, but then act concerned when one of the heads pop up for good. Yet, these same people disrespect the likes of Whitaker, Camacho, Mayweather, Leonard, Ward, etc, because they’re careful boxers whom use skill and defense to win fights. Like Hopkins always says, screw the fans: Win and win safe. Jermain Taylor who was trained to be a skilled boxer, decided to let other people tell him to brawl with fighters. Now look where he’s at today. Leonard made that same mistake, but he wised up quick. Bradley almost ended his career, but took the proper time off and came back smarter. Smart boxers last; reckless ones don’t. Look at Ricky Hatton.

Posted November 3, 2013 9:18 pm 


Cyber-H@mster

Yeah I don`t have a problem with the ref and doctor getting together to stop a fight, so long as they are actively communicating with the corner that this is what they are thinking.

It`s a tough balancing act, because some of the classic moments of boxing are the last minute stoppages or amazing turnarounds when things looked hopeless – like Castillo-Corales, or Jackson-Graham or boxers somehow winning/finishing with broken jaws Abraham, Ali or dislocate arms – Danny Williams- MArk Potter (youtube it).

Posted November 3, 2013 9:10 pm 


Viper

Mago was in a stable condition for a while but apparently the swelling got worse and they had to remove part of his skull. Fingers crossed he’s going to be OK.

Posted November 3, 2013 8:54 pm 


Viper

punch

Did you also predict that Mago was going to be fighting with a broken hand for half the fight and a broken nose from the first or second round onwards? Why don’t you try fighting for ten rounds with handicaps like that and under that amount of pain and discomfort and see how far you get?

The fight was pretty even up until the injuries became too much for Mago to contend with, who knows how it would’ve panned out had Perez been the unfortunate one who broke his hand instead.

Perez was also much more experienced than Mago as well. He’d had a far more extensive amateur career, whereas Mago was a late comer to the sport. He was actually a kickboxer up until eight or nine years ago, obviously he’s not going to be as skilful, refined or a defensively adept as someone who has been nurtured under the Cuban amateur system for most of their life and had hundreds of fights worth of experience under their belt.

Perez also had the luxury of going six rounds or more six times, whereas Mago had never been past five before. He’d been the full 10 round distance twice in his last two fights. So not only was Mago having to fight through the pain of a broken nose and a broken hand for much of the fight, but he was also having to do so over a distance he’d never even come close to going before.

You can’t prepare for or prevent breaking your hand in a fight during camp. It’s just one of those things. Sheer bad luck.

Posted November 3, 2013 8:46 pm 


KL

I’ve seen fights were the ref has been called the doc to have a look at the boxer in distress when he is sitting on his stool, so IMO the decision should be the ref’s based on how hurt the other boxer looks and NOT whether the boxer has a punchers chance to win the fight.
I guess every ref is different, but I’m sure some ref would have at least gotten the doc to take a close look at Mago well before the final round.

Posted November 3, 2013 8:32 pm 


Tomato Can

tough punchers like Mago corners, will normally let fights go on too long in hopes of the big ko, sometimes it pays off. Hopefully Mago will pull through, this really sucks.

Posted November 3, 2013 8:16 pm 


Cyber-H@mster

For sure, this is a sport at the end of the day, and we want everyone to be able to go home to their family with the money they have earned, and I hope Mago recovers.

He is a puncher, with a limited wider skillset, so he is the kind of guy who gets left in while taking punishment, whereas the likes of a Paulie Malignaggi gets pulled out by his corner or the ref since they know there is zero hope.

Posted November 3, 2013 8:13 pm 


KL

I’m sure everyone here hopes Mago pulls through and makes a full recovery. Mago looked done after about the 6th round, and you have to ask why the Mago’s corner let him absorb more punishment, in hope that they could land a lucky shot………and I don’t think the ref called the doctor over at any point, even though Mago was clearly showing signs of distress by round 6.

Posted November 3, 2013 8:07 pm 


Anonymous

redmond doing his usual damage control after a black guy was completely manhandled by the eurasian. another pos bigot that should jump off a bridge.

Posted November 3, 2013 6:50 pm 


Anonymous

agree with JD. punch should swallow a bottle of poison and do everyone a favor. no one cares who you picked, scumbag. the more important thing is that a guy is in a coma in the hospital. scumbag bigot. maybe wilder, your great black dope will end up in a coma one day and we’ll see what you say then.

Posted November 3, 2013 6:48 pm 


Anonymous

“I`m suprised ring announcers don`t crack up laughing when they have to introduce him as a world champion.”

That would be comedy gold if they did. LOL

Posted November 3, 2013 6:27 pm 


Cyber-H@mster

It is pretty funny watching Quillin interviews where he flip flops around whenever GGG’s name is mentioned.

He just backs off throwing excuses and roadblocks around like confetti, sweating like the condemned man he is.

Interviewers should just laugh in his face.

I`m suprised ring announcers don`t crack up laughing when they have to introduce him as a world champion.

Posted November 3, 2013 6:19 pm 


Kinks

GROW SOME BALLS PETER QUILLIN

Posted November 3, 2013 6:07 pm 


SREDMOND

UNTRUTH, your question
Answers itself Mayweathers been at 147, how can he “be ducking” the 160 pound champs…
I wonder how many 147
Pounders or former 130
Pounders
Are thinking about the 160
Pound class???

Posted November 3, 2013 6:04 pm 


Kinks

Floyds a great fighter -one of the greatest ever from around 130lbs-150lbs. Shame he had to throw up a new condition for the Pacman fight, but meh…I`m all for better drug testing, so I don`t have a problem wiyth that even if I think Floyd’s motivation was not cleaning up the sport

He is not and never has been the best guy who can make JMW in the world though – sizewise that is a bridge too far for him – and that is fine.

If he wants to meet GGG at 154lbs, where Floyd holds a belt, the fight is there for maybe a year or two, but not once GGG moves up.

To me the story here really is WHY IS QUILLIN such a little cow?

Posted November 3, 2013 6:03 pm 


SREDMOND

Mayweather has NOT been at 147 exclusively for a decade he’s fought two HOFERS and the UNIFIED 154 pound Champ during that span? AGAIN what’s the rule after 5 weight classes because 99% ok More of boxers did NOT hit it!!

Posted November 3, 2013 5:55 pm 


punch

Whole heartedly, I truly Wish Mago a speedy recovery.

Posted November 3, 2013 5:52 pm 


punch

JD stop projecting. You guys always take a brawler over a skilled fighter calling Ward and Floyd chickens for being better skilled and defensive fighters but praised the likes of Mago. He had a full camp to prevent this from happening. It’s always easy to throw a punch, to defend one is much more difficult and you fools don’t see that part of boxing. What part of “I’m feeling a little bit sorry for the poor fellow” don’t you understand JD?

Posted November 3, 2013 5:48 pm 


SREDMOND

“untruth” some of us are calling your BS…. So what Mayweather dipped a toe in at 154 that does not mean he has to keep fighting there NOR go to 160….90% of Mayweathers career is over why is he gonna go up in weight AGAIN at a time when he clearly topped out physically a LONG time ago….PAC Man once fought at 150, I don’t need to see him at 160 or even 154 the mans a small WW as is Floyd… Ortiz weighed 14 more than FMJ FACTSP

Posted November 3, 2013 5:43 pm 


JD

Abdusalamov is in a coma fighting for his life Punch. Take you ignorance and bigotry elsewhere you classless POS.

Posted November 3, 2013 5:41 pm 


punch

Mago lost as I predicted, I told him he was in for a world class beating. He thought Perez was a pushover that he was going to steamroll. Guess what he got steamrolled. I’m feeling a little bit sorry for the poor fellow. He should’ve listened when I advised him to tighten up his defense. I said he was all brass and no brains, he just couldn’t comprehend. Now GGG maybe better skilled but he takes too many punches for me to be sold on him, once he starts facing bigger and harder hitting boxers with a reach advantage on him, he will get the gist but by then it might be too late for him. Maybe he can become an octopus like his co-promotor but without the reach he will surely get his own asswhooping. Though he’s the best at 160, the challenges are at 168 and 175 where he’s got his former peers.

Posted November 3, 2013 5:35 pm 


Tomato Can

That’s the thing, Leonard came out of retirement to take on what he thought was an aging Hagler; Hearns grew into to MW, and still got smoked by Hagler. Duran got so huge in between fights, and had nothing to lose fighting at MW. Curry got smoked at WW and Jr.MW before he gave MW a try. Starling, was at the end of his career when he went up to MW. Delahoya was trying to get his golden boy image back, when he went up to MW. And Trinidad was actually growing into MW, before he got out classed by Hopkins. In addition to that over the past several years we have seen other WW’s fight at MW, some for titles, but all of them were just trying to get the biggest payday they could… So with that, what other than saving face for a few hard core fans, would get the at best 150 pound Mayweather to fight at 160?

Posted November 3, 2013 5:33 pm 


The Truth

LOL Im not going to go through twenty fighters career timelines . Floyd needs to do what the real greats do and take a risk and fight someone who can beat him. End of. If you fanboys are happy watching Floyd fight guys who in an historical context are b graders then thats your right. I wont be watching .

Floyd hasnt beaten one prime great fighter. Old men and mediocrities make up his record. Thats why I rate the Castillo rematch as his best win Redmond. Castillo at that stage was a world class , hungry , prime fighter . Not a great one though , just a very good one. All Floyd’s other so called great wins are against old men and fighters on the downslide. Coto, Mosely, De La Hoya were classic examples.

Posted November 3, 2013 5:26 pm 


Whocares

Abdusalamov’s career might be over. He is in a medically induced coma due to a blood clot in his brain. The poor guy took a terrible beating by trying to be tougher than his opponent…

Posted November 3, 2013 5:24 pm 


Limeyjay

Malignaggi has balls …..we both know that sred…..that is all , nothing more sinister than that.
I was just throwing it out there…..it was an analogy pure and simple.
Floyd is the man ,the global superstar……and you won’t hear me dogging him no matter who he chooses to fight from here on out.
Is he my favourite fighter? …….no he isn,t, but he is the man .
And for that he gets my respect.

Posted November 3, 2013 5:23 pm 


BEARS

sreds waffling and changing the subject with his “i have a better question”- signature biatch

Posted November 3, 2013 5:22 pm 


The Truth

Redmond you are getting silly and sound desperate if not juvenile . Please tell me why Floyd has been at 147 or over for a decade yet gets a pass to duck the middleweight champ who is obviously the biggest threat to his zero. Twenty previous 147 lb champs had the guts to do it. Roy Jones went up and fought a heavyweight lol

Posted November 3, 2013 5:21 pm 


Tomato Can

I wouldn’t mind seeing the fight, but I don’t see a way for it to happen anytime soon. There’s way too many roadblocks for the fight to happen anytime soon.

Posted November 3, 2013 5:21 pm 


Tomato Can

At what point did all these WW champions have the balls to step up? Was one of them in Mayweather current position? Can you name one within the past 50 years.

Posted November 3, 2013 5:19 pm 


SREDMOND

I have a BETTER question how many Unified the 154 pound division just shy of 37 against a guy 13 years younger and 15 pounds heavier fight night?? SRR had to yield to Maxim due to that differential YET the Great Mayweather just shy of 37 put in a clinic and barely broke a sweat..: Sugar Ray Leonard was 34 getting humiliated when he tried to defeat Norris at 154 and Terry was chosen because he had been flattened by Julian Jackson!!! Ahhhhh the Mayweather legacy jus gets better the MORE I discuss !!! Thanks for the encouragement Guys!

Posted November 3, 2013 5:19 pm 


Anonymous

Golovkin has already made it clear he wants to unify at 160 first. He’s done so many times. This is his #1 priority. The other belt holders can’t keep avoiding him for much longer. Public pressure will force them to spit of bust. He said he’ll consider moving up or down for a ”compelling fight” but right now he’s primarily focused on cleaning up at 160.

He’s said he’ll probably move up to 168 after a three or four fights, it would be foolish to move up before he moves down. He’s not a big a 160 pounder as it is so it would be advisable if he bulked up a little before moving up to tackle bigger opponents at 168. He hasn’t even called Floyd out for goodness sake! He’s said it’s his dream fight, one that he hopes might happen in the future.

It’s all these Flomos who are so desperate for Golovkin to move up, because they want him out of the picture. Ideally they want him to fight Andre Ward so a brutha can take his cherry, but they’d settle for Froch like they did for Garcia and Matthysse just as long as his threat is extinguished.

Posted November 3, 2013 5:18 pm 


The Truth

Its simple for mine , Floyd is the welterweight champion who has beaten the 154 pound champion yet you people seem to think he shouldnt fight a middleweight. Why I dont understand? Throughout boxing history it has been the norm for great or so called great fighters to take challenges such as say the 147 lb champ fighting the 160 pound champ.

TWENTY previous welterweight champs have had the balls to step up. Why does Floyd get a pass ?

Posted November 3, 2013 5:16 pm 


Limeyjay

Sred….I have never slagged off any fighter, I am a fan, it saddens me to here people on here calling people bums, diminishing there records and achievements.
I love the stories that boxing brings to our attention, I love the way Darren barker can finally win a belt after years of private struggles and setbacks…..only to come on here and listen to some plum sat at home bashing away on his MacBook that barker is a paper champion…..so what ……to me he is a world champ.
Sure I know who the real deals are in all weights, and the prospects…we all do.
I,m not the guy to rain on anyone’s parade.
I love the malignaggis,gattis,khans of the sport as much if not more than the floyds,pacs,wards etc….In a nutshell I,m a fan …not a tough talking wannabe.
If floyd fight and loses to golovkin it wouldn,t change my opinion of floyd one bit.
If golovkin loses I wouldn,t dream of making excuses of weight draining etc…..it is what it is .
There will be thousands that don’t share my views , I understand that, but I don’t care about them voices, my mind will not be swayed….I,ll keep it real no matter what.

Posted November 3, 2013 5:14 pm 


BEARS

guerrero got a belly and went to 147 what a joke. guerreros a joke who has still not been seen in the ring since the floyd bout. fraud vs guerrero was a mockery of the sport and some smart fans literally got duped into that non fight with 130 pound guerrero. lol@ the foolhardy

Posted November 3, 2013 5:13 pm 


SREDMOND

Imagine Stevenson against Jesse Brinkley and the other guys who defeated him???? Ohhhhhh we don’t have to his low profile in the sport is on paper… Guerrero is a multi weight Titlist like most he had 12 rounds to take Mayweather the way he did Berto and he got walloped… You think Stevensons a BETTER opponent at WW than Guerrero at MW??? HAHAHAHAHAHA!!

Posted November 3, 2013 5:13 pm 


Tomato Can

I have a better question, how many established fighters at 147 went out of their way to make a fight with the established 160 pound champion, while they were undefeated and in the prize fighting drivers seat, like Mayweather currently is?

Posted November 3, 2013 5:13 pm 


The Truth

Duran had his first fight as a bantamweight actually.

Posted November 3, 2013 5:12 pm 


The Truth

BRedmond your games dont work with me lad. You are avoiding my question and answering it with a different one. When you answer mine I will start answering yours. Why wont Mayweather actually take a risk an fight someone who he will be probably favoured to lose against or at least it would be near even money . You dont rate Golovkin yet you felt Canelo ( who has fought worse fighters than GGG ) was a good fight for Mayweather. Its about risk ma. The real greats have the balls to take risks.

Posted November 3, 2013 5:12 pm 


SREDMOND

Truth, really so you are saying that only guys who move up from 130 and fight at 160 are considered Great? I guess Duran, Hearns, and Leonard all suck because they never came up from 130…. Damn WHO KNEW!!! Lmao!!

Posted November 3, 2013 5:10 pm 


Tomato Can

Actually Guerrero had a harder time making 147 than Mayweather did. So no, Guerreo is not a midget in comparison to Mayweather. But Mayweather is a midget compared to GGG. But hey if GGG really can still make 154, and Mayweather still wants to fight at 150, then maybe there’s a chance for this fight in the future. But it isn’t happing on Mayweather’s current contract.

Posted November 3, 2013 5:09 pm 


SREDMOND

Truth, care to explain why YOU consider “the Castillo rematch” Floyd’s “best win” ??????????? I’m curious as hell on that one…

Posted November 3, 2013 5:07 pm 


The Truth

Answer the question Redmond – 20 previous welterweight champions including many who started at 130 – 135 lbs went up n fought the middleweight champion . Why wont Mayweather.

If you guys think Guerrero can fight then you really know nothing about the sport. Imagine Guerrero against histories great welters. He wouldnt last a round with Hearns.

Posted November 3, 2013 5:07 pm 


SREDMOND

How is Guerrero a midget? He and Floyd are the same height ??? Besides Mayweather foes never have to deal with bone jarring power..he’s just out boxing and out thinking them..Floyd’s not close to a MW fighter, he have up 15 pounds to a guy 13 years younger and it still is NOT enough and NEVER WILL BE for some… Which is fine, but that’s not gonna turn a 37 year old professional into a DUMMY…

Posted November 3, 2013 5:05 pm 


KL

Fight Aficionado I never really considered Mago as a prospect a big puncher yes,but prospect no.
Mike Perez on the other hand always was a prospect as he has fast hands and good skills and much better at defenselessly than Mago could ever dream to be,the only question marks over Perez would be his size and general motivation, as he seemed to be taking a year off and not too fussed about getting his boxing career into gear…….hopefully this good performance over Mago will motivate Perez and his team to become more active and get back in the mix.

Posted November 3, 2013 5:04 pm 


The Truth

Compare Floyds best wins to history’s other so called GOATS . Floyds best win is the Castillo rematch. Hardly compares to Leonard beating Hearns , Duran beating Leonard or Ali beating Liston and Foreman does it ?

Posted November 3, 2013 5:04 pm 


Anonymous

N’dam relinquished his interim world title to duck Golovkin. It was the third or forth time he’d ducked him.

Daniel Geale relinquished his WBA title to duck Golovkin. He knew that’d he’d have to defend it against him next or give it up but he didn’t want to know. Golovkin already whipped Geale in the amateurs.

Anthony Mundine turned down a free shot world title shot against Golovkin, in Australia. All the Australian posters on the Aussie forums were saying for weeks beforenhand that there was no way Mundine was going to dare fight Golovkin, that he was going to pull a major duck. Which is exactly what he did.

Golovkin was mandatory challenger for Felix Sturm’s WBA title for TWO YEARS, Sturm did EVERYTHING in his power to avoid him like the plague.

Sergio Martinez and Lou Dibella CLEARLY want nothing to do with Golovkin, anyone who says otherwise hasn’t been following the chain of events.

Dimtry Pirog pulled out of a big clash against Golovkin with an injury.

Martin Murray turned down a bigger purse than he got paid for the Martinez fight to fight Golovkin.

Golovkin has CLEARLY been striving hard to fight the best in the division, his critics , detractors and haters should be voicing their disapproval at all these fighters who are ducking and avoiding him, not him. Anyone who says he’s not been ducked and avoided cannot and should not be taken seriously.

Posted November 3, 2013 5:02 pm 


BEARS

sredmond wants to give mayweather credit for defeating canelo who weighed 171 in the trout bout but wriggles and writhes like the worm he is at the thought of ggg vs mayweather!!!!!!! what is that? flip flopping fear? yes thats strait ggg fear. what did hbo call ggg? boxings fastest rising star? there is virtually noone speaking ill of ggg besides redmond. does anyone else find this odd? all you east side regulars know better. martinez body breaks everytime he enters the ring and he’s knocked down providing scares and fears of a loss. who in their right mind would favor martinez over the relentless powerhouse ggg? anyone?

Posted November 3, 2013 5:01 pm 


SREDMOND

Lime jay, I like Paulie but how do you establish his has “unusual
Balls” or would fight a MW??? Because he faced Cotto at 140? Mayweather faced him at 154, because he faces Hatton? Mayweather knocked Hatton cold, Ricky was come backing against Paulie and foolishly believed he could defeat Pacquiao…Again I like Paulie but nothing suggests he would fight a MW the man has less than 0 power and could not hold one off…

Posted November 3, 2013 5:01 pm 


The Truth

Actually in the real world of no jr titles Mayweather is a two division champion . Lightweight and Welterweight Redmond. How could say Robinson hold 5 titles when jr divisions and worse still at least 4 versions of each division. Its the usual use of statistics by Floyds deluded fans . Henry Armstrong was a featherweight and fought for the middleweight title . How many titles would he have won if they had all the jr ones back the ? Feather, jr lightweight, lightweight , jr welterweight, welterweight and jr middleweight . Thats 6 titles Redmond ;)

Posted November 3, 2013 5:01 pm 


Limeyjay

I,m not gonna cheat on my wife with some Doris that wears a brace and has a built up shoe and a hunch on her back…..no way.
But Scarlett johansen may well get a look in, sometimes allowances have to be made.
Floyd has set the bar and he continues to raise it…..let’s just fantasize for a moment that the fight gets made……and floyd wins a career defining fight, golovkin gives him his props and the bar gets raised a bit higher…..you sred are a happy bunny.
Or it could play the other way golovkin wins a great fight, does floyds legacy get a blemish or does the general consensus agree that it was a bridge too far, and give him props for stepping up anyhow.
Either way for me , win or lose floyd is an atg.

Posted November 3, 2013 5:00 pm 


Tomato Can

I would like to see GGG, make 154, not just say he can. I’m not saying he can’t but the fact is, for whatever reason he hasn’t made 154 in over 11 years.

Posted November 3, 2013 4:58 pm 


The Truth

Redmond would rather Floyd face face first midgets like Guerrero or unskilled inexperienced hype jobs like Alvarez and keep his worthless unbeaten record than risk it ( and his so called greatness ) fighting someone with a pulse like Golovkin .

Floyd is the 147 and 154 lb champion. He would be the first one in history who refused to fight middleweights. Is he special or different to the rest ? 20 yes 20 welterweight champions in boxing history have had a crack at winning the 160 pound crown . Its not unusual Redmond. As usual Mayweather’s fans lower the bar for him compared to previous great fighters.

Hearns had a shot a middleweight, Leonard did, Duran did , Griffith did , Robinson did , De La Hoya did ( and there goes your argument about Floyd starting at 130 so did Oscar ) , Armstrong , Napoles, Gavilan, Cory Spinks , Basilio, Trinidad etc etc etc.

Nobody claims GG is the greatest fighter of all time unlike Mayweather . GGG says he can make 154 so surely that is the fight where Mayweather can prove his greatness.

Fanboys ….

Posted November 3, 2013 4:57 pm 


SREDMOND

Lime jay, that was was a nice try fact is that Floyd’s already proved his GREATNESS he’s the ONLY boxer in history to make it thru 5 divisions undefeated and win 4 lineals to go along with that… If he has NOT proven he’s special standing in his to date accomplishments the. I would submit that some are gonna withhold credit no matter what.. Let me ask in boxing history how many 5 weight Champs are there???? And size aside what aspect of GGG’s accomplishments would bring Floyd Great historical acclaim? Is GGG Marvin Hagler?

Posted November 3, 2013 4:56 pm 


SREDMOND

Ok Limejay we have FAKE fans who wanna give EVERY fighter who takes off weight a FREE PASS should he lose, ESB DIRTBAG Bears amongst them… What’s your position show this NATURAL MW shave off 7 pounds and lose would you be in the camp of no EXCUSES? Just curious?

Posted November 3, 2013 4:52 pm 


Limeyjay

The reason I wouldn,t mind golovkin fighting floyd is that I think floyd is such a fantastic fighter and a brilliant professional that it would pretty much even out the size advantage of golovkin…..that doesn,t mean I,d happily go along with golovkin vs paulie malignaggi for instance…..even though paulie has balls and would probably take the fight.
When we talk about floyd we are in my mind talking about one of the finest fighters ever to lace up a pair of gloves.
You shouldn’t,t assume that applies to the mere mortals, I,m making special allowances for floyds greatness, that’s what happens when you set the bar sred….you know that .

Posted November 3, 2013 4:51 pm 


SREDMOND

If GGG is so willing to go to 168 then why during “2 Days with Gennady Golovkin”
On HBO did he give Ward his respect and say basically he did not wanna go in that direction at this point…????? Golvkin only wants ONE fight at 154 and it’s against Mayweather who’s really a 147 pounder… How do we know this? 1.) Floyd’s NEVER made 154 even on the night of the bout let alone weigh in, 2.) Mayweather has fought all but 3 of his 45 fights below 154 3.) Odds favor his next fight being at 147… FACTS

Posted November 3, 2013 4:49 pm 


Anonymous

We’ve seen Quillin’s level, and it’s going life-and-death with Golovkin’s leftovers Rosado, a sick Golovkin who very nearly had to pull out the fight altoghter a day or two before he was scheduled to climb in the ring. Rosado hurt Quillin hurt and made him do the chicken dance. He was coming on strong down the stretch and looking like he was on his way to victory until the cut. I think it was obvious he would’ve won that fight had he not started so slow and gotten cut. He was mocking Quillin’s power and walking through his best shots like they were love taps, whereas he was absolutely terrified of Golovkin’s and didn’t come close to winning a single second of a single round.

Quillin also went life-and-death with N’dam, a fighter who ducked Golovkin on multiple occasions. He even relinquished his interim world title belt to avoid him. That’s how badly he wanted nothing to do with him. He was giving Quillin a boxing lesson that fight while he was still vertical.

Posted November 3, 2013 4:48 pm 


Anonymous

Quillin turned down a free shot a Golovkin’s belt before he even won his own title.

He then said that Golovkin had to build his name before he’d fight him. That he’s [Quillin] a big American star and that it’s a pay per view fight. Quillin a big American star? I know, hysterical. He’s the one who has been fighting on undercards, Golovkin has been headlining HBO cards.

Then it was ”Golovkin is a risky fighter! He’s got 24 knockouts so of course the risk has gotta match the reward first.” Notice how Golovkin has never once complained about the finances of a Quillin fight, or any other fight for that matter. He just wants the fight, whereas Qullin has been running scared since Golovkin worked him over in sparring. It’s only now that Qullin has the network war to hide behind that he’s gotten brave.

Posted November 3, 2013 4:45 pm 


Limeyjay

I look at the Brit boys, barker, macklin, Murray, andy lee and know that they will have some great fights amongst themselves, for us thus side of the pond there are some great domestic dust ups to be had…..but I can’t see any of them putting a dent in golovkin.
Martinez is there for the taking, in my mind he lost to Murray….but understand the fight was in Argentina so he needed to have been a clearer winner…..cos that’s how it is.
The middleweight division is golovkins to take, in an ideal world the next fight would see him and Martinez share a ring to make it official.
I have no problem with him dipping his toe in at 154 for a fight or two if it makes sense.
He isn’t the biggest of middles and him vs Alvarez would be fun.

Posted November 3, 2013 4:44 pm 


SREDMOND

Lime jay, Golovkins career will be what it will be I’m a fan of results and if he proves something special against a BETTER class of fighter the I will call it like it is… You are trying to sell this “Nice Guy” thing but it’s THINLY veiled… You were very OK WITH the notion that ANY bigger boxer facing or overwhelming Mayweather is GOOD because that satisfies some sort of public demand… I’m NOT asking anything unusual of GGG absent him booking some QUALITY wins in his class or above… Where’s you are asking a former 130 pounder to mix it up with a MW when he’s pretty much 147 on fight nights?!? Again I see the subtext of your position or Canelo and GGG are physical equals, first off fighting at MW with power is different that 154 and certainly 147, guys like Chavez were at the weight coming in at 180 fight night GGG is used to hitting and getting hit by bigger guys… In the future I’m sure Canelo might move up he’s 23… Since all MW’s are the same to you then I guess Chavez Jr, Murray, Barker and Quillin are natural opponents for Mayweather ?????? Your story is sketchy

Posted November 3, 2013 4:40 pm 


Kid Blast

Golovkin willing to go down to 154 or up to 168 for a big fight

Posted November 3, 2013 4:37 pm 


Kid Blast

lime JAY AND OLD YANK HAVE THE BEAT

Posted November 3, 2013 4:36 pm 


Kid Blast

Thanks Lime jay.

Once again, if you posit at the same time someone else is posting, they will tell you that you are posting too fast. My answer to that is fix your software so it does not do that.

War = Boring

GGG = Exciting

Posted November 3, 2013 4:35 pm 


Limeyjay

Kid blast….good post fella.

Posted November 3, 2013 4:33 pm 


BEARS

who has the bigger following ggg or ward?

who is more exciting?

who has the potential to give us more super fights and better quality fights?

Posted November 3, 2013 4:32 pm 


Kid Blast

BIF one might have been a Freudian slip.

Posted November 3, 2013 4:32 pm 


Kid Blast

SREDMOND , why are you insisting on downplaying someone who just about 99% of sage boxing people think can be the next superstar of boxing? I sense perhaps something less acceptable in your posts. Tell me I’m wrong.

GGG is the top, middle, and bottom of his division. He IS the division. Quillin and Martinez and Geale and Barker and Murray are simply bumps in the road to mega fights and mega pay days. If I were GGG, I’d take out one or two of these guys and maybe step up to Chavez Jr. and end his pot-filled misery once and for all. Let Ward and Froch age a tad more, let them engage is some tough fights. Let them put a few more miles on the tires. Then make the move. Timing is everything.

In the meantime, he can always look down at guys like Canelo or Trout. A Canelo-GGG fight would be a very BIF one.

GGG is now the Euro Pacquiao. He has options. We had best get used to it.

Posted November 3, 2013 4:30 pm 


SREDMOND

Moral to the story is that you want GGG to make a name for himself by chasing smaller boxers?? That’s kinda weak Yank and if he loses we are gonna hear the SAME CRAP we always do “he was weakened by weight loss” this is the MOST tired excuse going around boxing today!!! If guys are saying Mayweather will be more respectable of he fights even FARTHER above his division then it stands to reason that GGG would gain similar accolades? Boxers have always been respected MORE for moving up in weight than moving down…Calling out Martinez while he’s on the shelf means what? Let’s see what happens when Sergio presumably returns guys wanna give GGG the scepter when he NEVER earned it in the ring… Martinez is Top man at 160 and if Golovkin wants to prove himself he will find a way in the ring with the TRUE MW King… Politics are not gonna make GGG the man and neither is Stevenson or looking for 154 pounders..

Posted November 3, 2013 4:30 pm 


Limeyjay

Sred…froch vs floyd is just being silly, floyd vs golovkin is the same as floyd vs Alvarez. And a very real fight.
I,m in the Old yank camp on this as you already know.
I,m looking forward to watching golovkins career with a keen eye, and it hope he lives up to the early promise…..whereas you seem to be hoping that he fails miserably to build on his solid start to the pro ranks.
That probably says a lot about us as people.
I,m curious to know what it is that makes it this way.
I know many will tell me to give up with you, that your all for the black fighters and all that jazz, but I can’t understand why a fan of boxing would not be excited about a fighter such as golovkin, so what if there’s a lot of hype around him…..why should it bother you,I can’t wrap my head around it.

Posted November 3, 2013 4:25 pm 


Cyber-H@mster

Yeah PEEJ, I don`t think the tournament being in the US necessarily helped Ward win, I believe he would have won on Mars, but it is indicative of the situation being skewed in favour of the American fighters.

It`s likely that were GGG an AMerican, a US network would have picked him up earlier, he would have had more US fans who are obviously richer than Borats behind him quicker, and he would be a better risk-reward for getting big fights.

I wouldn`t totally right off home advantage though – there is a reason across all sports, that people do better at home.

Posted November 3, 2013 4:24 pm 


SREDMOND

Old Yank, where did I say GGG had to go to 168? What I did say is why all the excitement for him to seek out smaller boxers?? If you think everyone’s scared of him at 160 then why would they be more open to him at 154??? If he’s this raging monster then why not move up to a division where guys are already banging? Martinez did it, Mayweather did it, PAC did it and the list goes on…Ward cannot be discussed in the same breath as Golovkin, he CLEANED the TOP
of his division out while GGG is cleaning out the bottom of his for the most part…Wards skills and accomplishments at the weight have been universally recognized absent sour fools hence him being #2 P4P in the world….

Posted November 3, 2013 4:19 pm 


PEEJ

Kessler was the favorite to win the title and yeah they needed some Americans in it to push it in America. They thought Ward wouldn’t do much in the tournament and he proved everyone wrong. Him fighting in America had nothing to do with him winning. Kessler and Froch have both fought in America and won. When Ward fought Froch there where more Froch fans than Ward fans.

Posted November 3, 2013 4:18 pm 


Cyber-H@mster

See I don`t understand this attitude, Golovkin had to line up become mandatory, wait two years see Sturm lose and Geale drop the belt. Golovkin takes over and fights anyone in the division who will take him on, and is KO’ing with ease guys that give the other champions all they can handle.
He calls out these champions, they make excuses, and now you say he has to go up in weight.

What you should be crying out for is for Qullin and Martinezto stop being such poosays.

Re the Ward comparison GGG hasn`t had a supersix set up at MW where he is allowed to have every fight in Kasakstan. Ward wasn`t widely seen as deserving to be in with Kessler before the S6 started, he was basically given a boost by a US TV network.

Posted November 3, 2013 4:12 pm 


Cyber-H@mster

SREDMOND :I am ALWAYS skeptical of these boxers till they start facing some World Class fighters.
SREDMOND: This “everyone’s afraid” argument is TIRED

Golovkin: I am open for everybody. Sergio Martinez, Peter Quillin, I am here.”

Quillin: Of course, you’ve got to build these fights up. There are other fights out there in the division that could be big, big fights for boxing and big draws for the fans and the sport of boxing

Sure sounds like QUillin doesn`t want it yet to me.

Posted November 3, 2013 4:08 pm 


Old Yank

SREDMOND — GGG’s road map? He’s gonna fight and I’m going to enjoy the scenery!

Posted November 3, 2013 4:01 pm 


Bulawayo2

For the first time in years I watched a great heavyweight fight, both gave their all.
Golovkin just confirmed my thoughts, he is the best fighter in the World, a classy boxer and a classy man out of the ring as well.
Martinez and Quillan, your turn next. I honestly think both of those fights would be easier than last nights for GGG.

Posted November 3, 2013 4:00 pm 


Old Yank

SREDMOND And exactly when did Ward rush up to 175 to prove he’s got goods? Your an azzhole for saying so! GGG is under no requirement to move to 168 to prove anything. The guys at 160 to beat right now are Martinez and Quillan. Don’t hold your breath waiting for either of them to accept the challenge GGG just made to both of them.

How about Froch? Does he need to fight at 175 in order to prove anything?

Hopkins stuck around at 160 from 1988-2006 — 18 f-in years! And some jackazz thinks that after 7 years as a pro GGG has a requirement to move up to 168 in order to prove himself.

If GGG can make 154 and clean a few high-end clocks then he’s legit at 154. He’s in no need of a guy whose biggest skill is counting hairs on a gnat’s azz telling him where legitimacy awaits.

If GGG can make 154 and beat Alvarez, Trout and/or Lara it’s an accomplishment. If he can beat Martinez or Quillan at 160, it’s an accomplishment. He can look and BE accomplished without EVER fighting at 168! Should he take a Froch or Ward bout and win at 168, don;t be surprised.

What an abject fool!

Posted November 3, 2013 3:59 pm 


Tomato Can

With all this talk about GGG, fighting at 154, it would be nice to see him do so, since he’s consistently came in at 159-160 as a professional, and hasn’t competed at 154 since 2002.

Posted November 3, 2013 3:41 pm 


Tomato Can

That really sucks about Mango. Last night as I was watching the fight, I thought to myself “I hope neither of these guys gets seriously hurt” cause they were both throwing and landing bombs.

Posted November 3, 2013 3:37 pm 


SREDMOND

Old Yank, where is “Golovkin going” please do tell? I’m curious to hear your roadmap for his future???

Posted November 3, 2013 3:35 pm 


SREDMOND

Old Yank, by the time Ward had what 20 bouts? He was beating Kessler like a DOG and proves himself in the ring.. I am ALWAYS skeptical of these boxers till they start facing some World Class fighters… Ward and GGG have the SAME number of bouts “give or take” yet Wards resume is off the charts… This “everyone’s afraid” argument is TIRED if Golovkin wants to make a name let him up his OWN appetite for risk and venture North… Why would he be MORE welcome in the 154 pound class of YOU say everyone’s afraid at 160? Let the man take his azz to 168 where Ward, Froch and Co have shown they are willing to mix it up with anyone…Again Golovkins not gonna get there feasting on fighters like Stevenson…Hate to be the Bearer of Bad news

Posted November 3, 2013 3:26 pm 


Old Yank

SREDMOND — I have no interest in listening to you count hairs on a gnat’s ass. GGG will have trouble getting bouts at 154, 160 and 168 because he’s seen as high risk and low reward for every name brand out there at 154, 160 and 168. I don’t give a gnat’s ass hair if he fights at 154, 160 or 168. I do however believe he’s got the goods to do quite well at any of those weights.

Should we did up some of your old posts casting doubts on Ward as he was coming up?

Hey, if you can’t see where this guy is going I really don’t give one of those gnat’s ass hairs you are so fond of counting. For those of us who see the goods, we not only like what we see, we want to see more of it with anyone willing to step in with GGG — be it at 154, 160 or 168.

Got it?

Posted November 3, 2013 3:16 pm 


123=VI

Floyd MOCKED Canelo Managers as a “Stupid team” because it was them that wanted the catchweight and not Floyd so GGG is willing to come down from 159 to 154 for Floyds 154 WBC belt….its very plain and simple.

Posted November 3, 2013 3:13 pm 


SREDMOND

How is GGG the same physically as Canelo? Alvarez fought as low as 147, GGG hit the ground running at 160…. Theres a reason Golovkin is not at 154, of nothing we know he can punch at MW and most importantly you cannot make the case that either is physically as small in terms of body mass as Floyd…I’m sure GGG can stop a lot of 147 pounders if he lands… He’s supposed to he’s a MW! If he’s to impress why not KO some 168 pounders or 160 pounders that are in play? Martinez, Murray, Quillin even Barker but Stevens is LOW HANGING FRUIT….

Posted November 3, 2013 3:13 pm 


SREDMOND

Lime jay, we disagree I’m all for reasonable matchups and risk taking that said a 5 weight Champ does NOT have to step up another division or accommodate a FAR bigger opponent melting down the day before in order to create as much physical disadvantage as possible… Some wanna see Hops face him too and I look upon that with similar disinterest …. I ALSI don’t wanna see Floyd against Froch who’s not even close to Floyd’s skill but is too strong and big…. I also don’t wanna see Froch against Pulev and so on… I don’t even except GGG to go to 175.. Get it??? I also think it’s some LAZY thinking and impossible to believe that Floyd Mayweather became the most well paid boxer in history because EVERYONE hates or wants to see him lose…. How do you substantiate that? Do 5 million people follow him on Twitter because they despise him and have nothing better to do?? That’s some PLAYED Out analysis that does not equate to the man earning 41.5 million as a base salary… If so HATE must be the top commodity out there…Lol

Posted November 3, 2013 3:05 pm 


Cyber-H@mster

SREDMOND – again, who are the A and B ranked fighters at middleweight?

Posted November 3, 2013 3:02 pm 


Limeyjay

Sred….some would have floyd fight wladimir such is their want for him to get beat.
I,m telling you nothing you don’t know.
I look at GGG and he is nearer floyds size than Alvarez is.
Would it be a fair fight…..for me, yes all day long.
One I,d fancy floyd to win …..boxing ugly.
As for me being disingenious….that’s about right, I ain’t no genius that’s for sure I get my kicks watching boxing, not solving maths equations.
But seriously I see nothing wrong in golovkin fighting floyd or Froch…..it’s all the same to me.

Posted November 3, 2013 2:54 pm 


Limeyjay

Listen to you sounding all smart.
It’s boxings least best kept secret…….the majority of people wanna see floyd lose, and they don’t care who too.
I am not one of them , I love watching floyd fight, and truly am the May the best best man win kinda guy…..with one exception, ……Nigel benn who I rooted for every time regardless.
I didn,t get all bent out of shape when he lost either, I knew his limitations so I always kept it real.
The thing is everyone’s different, would I like to see floyd vs GGG……he’ll yes, do I care who wins, not one little bit…..I,d just hope for a good fight.
You however, would like floyd to win….I understand that, and respect that…in truth I kinda like that about you , your loyalty……but you gotta balance the scales sred, were he to lose it seems you’d make excuses, your making them before the fight…..you have too many opinions for my liking, and your dangerous because you are smart, and can twist things and justify things and put up a very good argument……u should be a politician.
But at the end of the day it doesn,t matter what you or I think anyway.
If floyd wants the fight then the fight will happen, if he doesn,t then it won’t.
Nothing me or you can do about it but argue my friend it’s all futile.
I don’t make excuse for fighters, I just watch and cheer, watch and cheer.

Posted November 3, 2013 2:43 pm 


Viper

All these critics who’ve been saying Mago has a weak chin since the McCline knockdown don’t know what they’re talking about. He doesn’t have a weak chin at all, he actually has a very good chin. You have to have a good chin to fight with his style and take the amount of punishment he does. It’s his defence and his late start to the sport that’s the problem.

He has a stout chin but we also now know he has a heart as big as an ocean as well. He was fighting with a broken nose and a damaged cheek from very early into the fight. He was also fighting with a broken left hand most likely from the 4th or 5th round onwards. His left lost all of its steam after the 5th and he was throwing power hits with it much more sparingly from there on in. He revved it up a little more towards the end, which was obviously in hindsight his warrior spirit coming through, fighting through the pain in a last gasp effort to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat, but I did wonder at the time where the power had gone. The guy had never been past 5 rounds before last night either.

What a warrior! My prayers and thoughts go to him and his family.

Posted November 3, 2013 2:40 pm 


SREDMOND

Tomato Can, Mayweathers a TRUE WW who can easily make 147 fight day if his opponents were all truly his size it would be simply crazy…the mans been beating heavier men for years without issue…A lot of boxers are reliant on their heft in a given weight class to give them advantages that’s why these guys go thru all that to make weight… Good point

Posted November 3, 2013 2:36 pm 


SREDMOND

Adbdulasamovs team let him take ALOT of abuse which is unfortunate, he was fighting back but his face looked fractured early on…Stevens people did right by him once it became apparent there were no avenues to victory… Boxing a cruel sport, gotta respect Abdulasamovs heart…

Posted November 3, 2013 2:29 pm 


Tomato Can

Mayweather would be even harder to beat with fight day weigh-ins.

Posted November 3, 2013 2:29 pm 


SREDMOND

Limejay, I find your comment about “Floyd moving up in your estimation by facing a dangerous fighter like GGG” to be disingenuous this is CLASSIC moving of the Bar and totally ignores a body of work that began 17 years ago and now includes Titles in 5 weight classes and 4 lineal Championships (along with PAC) most in boxing history….Recently the buzz was Canelo Alvarez, 13 years younger and 15 pounds heavier the night of the bout… Sugar Ray Robinson could not overcome that differential against Joey Maxim yet Floyd made an EASY night…. You said “Guys wanna see Floyd lose” so instead of pulling from 154 then are trying 160 so by definition their appetite for a Mayweather loss cannot be satisfied till it happens regardless of how ridiculous the matchup Hops, Ward, Adamek it matters not…I get it he has made his antagonists suffer like few fighters EVER have and they will excuse anything for a glimmer of hope…LOL. THANKS for clearing that up!!

Posted November 3, 2013 2:26 pm 


Tomato Can

“Terrible news. Mago is in a doctor induced coma fighting for his life. I really hope he’s going to pull through.” I’m sorry to hear this, and wish him the best. He took a lot of very heavy punches in that fight, as did Perez.

Posted November 3, 2013 2:25 pm 


Limeyjay

Sred…..I got no beef with anyone on here.
I agree with you on Lennox.
I ain’t got the stamina to go round after round with bears and co like you do, nor the desire.
I have listened to all the racist suff about you, and couldn,t give a toss.
If, and it is a big IF….your views are about race over boxing then, your post are not worth the ( paper ) they are written on.
As I said earlier in the thread in the past I have given you the benefit of the doubt, against my better judgement sometimes.
I personally don’t care who agrees with me or shares my view on boxing , I know what I see, and trust my own eyes over anyone else’s, have I ever been wrong…..hell, yes plenty, do I care? Not one jot …that’s all part of life’s rich tapestry, I leave my ego in its drawer when I come on here.
People get all hung up on weight, it makes me laugh, like Canelo,s weight or strength were gonna help him hit floyd, …..utter nonsense……if floyd don’t wanna exchange then he aint getting hit full stop, he blocks out the boos, and can only hear the cash register” kerching”
I,m in the ” if they nearly same size then let em, fight brigade”
Too much emphasis put on a loss for my liking.
I have no less respect for, hearns, Duran, Ali, etc because they lost …..this is the fight game, so fkn fight.
I,ll watch.

Posted November 3, 2013 2:24 pm 


dcastro454

time to bang at 168

Posted November 3, 2013 2:20 pm 


Ya mama

Damm another bad rap on boxing, hope he recovers.

Posted November 3, 2013 2:18 pm 


Ya mama

Well he way slower than Terry norris who was faster than sugar ray, and as he gain weight he will get slower, but Terry trainer style is the gold.

Posted November 3, 2013 2:16 pm 


Viper

Terrible news. Mago is in a doctor induced coma fighting for his life. I really hope he’s going to pull through.

Posted November 3, 2013 2:15 pm 


Happyboy

I don’t think anyone doubts GGG’s skills it’s his competition that questioned.

Posted November 3, 2013 2:13 pm 


Brit Box

Martinez is not done, the Murray fight was a great close win, Murray would beat Quillin no problem, you will see how difficult Murray is to beat when he fights Golovkin next.

Posted November 3, 2013 2:05 pm 


Tomato Can

I gotta admit, that was a great Heavyweight fight. I’d like to see that one again.

Posted November 3, 2013 2:05 pm 


Adrian

Yeah mayweather is. ” sometimes” at 154…

Posted November 3, 2013 2:04 pm 


Die Siener

Perez showed a serious pair of whiskers, he took a number of flush shots from Mago and never blinked. Great fight! Would Wilder be interested in fighting either of these two?

Posted November 3, 2013 2:04 pm 


Adrian

Sredmond – you are complaining for attacking you?? Uh oh … Really ?? Poor you … Scroll comments down in this article alone how many times you go after me personally .. Typical hypocrit. !

Posted November 3, 2013 2:01 pm 


SREDMOND

Lime jay, is Mayweather there (154) or is he at 147 where he’s fought all but 42 of his 45 fights …. Golovkins NOT eligible, NOT worthy and NOT getting a Mayweather shot at 154 so the people needing to “get over it” are those like you swinging at a windmill…
Why would Floyd Mayweather fight ANY MW??? Chavez Jr was a Champ before Sergio beat him up why no clamor for that bout?? Reality is that many of you are NOT as bullish on Golovkins prospects as you try to sell, hence your glee when he beats a Stevens level for and desire to see him chasing smaller fighters…
Mayweathers gonna be 37 he’s proved he can step up in weight and class what’s GGG done?? Proven he’s a murderous puncher with C level MW’s and unaccomplished 154 pounders moving up Ouma, Ishida, and Rosado…. HOLLLAAAAA!

Posted November 3, 2013 2:01 pm 


Tomato Can

It’s going to take a lengthy fighter with a great jab, speed and good power to get that respect, to beat GGG. I don’t see that fighter out there.

Posted November 3, 2013 1:59 pm 


Tomato Can

Martinez is done, I doubt his team will put him in there with a Natural MW in GGG. Murray wouldn’t be able to get his punches off against GGG. He would go into his defensive shell and never come out of it, and still lose by TKO. I would like to see that fight though. I would also like to see GGG against the winner of Sturm/Barker. But I seriously don’t see either of those guys handling GGG.

Posted November 3, 2013 1:56 pm 


Adrian

PEEJ

I never said I was against it because of the revenue. Someone posted saying it would do more buys that what Floyd and Canelo did and I was just explaining that no way would it come close to that. GGG is not popular enough. Not saying he won’t reach that because if he keeps doing what he is doing he will be there pretty quick like.

Posted November 3, 2013 1:40 pm

Gotcha peej.

Posted November 3, 2013 1:55 pm 


’76 Olympic Team

My humble opinions:
1) Roy is my favorite color analyst.
2) Awesome heavyweight fight. Mago did great but Perez has a granite chin and fast hands. Could have stopped it a bit earlier. Perez is a corker, no pun intended.
3) Curtis looked tough but just not enough for GGG, who is one tough hombre. GGG is top 5 PFP.
4) Time for Choc or Maravilla to step up and fight GGG. Let’s consolidate this vintage division!
That’s all.

Posted November 3, 2013 1:53 pm 


SREDMOND

Limejay, I have always been even handed with you as it pertains to discussions but I find your compassion for those I counterattack kind of strange… The open bigotry and hostility on this board is OFF the charts but you see me as the most intense?? I have no issue being harsh with those I having “running feuds” with… Frankly your sounding like ANOTHER guy getting frustrated because I don’t share his view of a particular boxer…
Of course these guys are gonna seek to indoctrinate you into “Group Think” and should you dissent they will be after you too…. If my points had no validity NONE of you would be so tense BUT they hit home so dudes are burning up….

Posted November 3, 2013 1:52 pm 


PEEJ

Martinez is the middle weight champ so yes GGG wants to fight him. He wants the Lineal title. As for Quillen, well he is also ranked high at 160 so he wants to fight him. Until proven otherwise GGG is the best 160 right now. And also seems to be taking on all challenges. Something Martinez has yet to do

Posted November 3, 2013 1:48 pm 


Limeyjay

Sred….the reason why people are contemplating golovkin dropping weight to fight at 154 is because mayweather is there.
People want to see mayweather beaten, and they don’t care who does it, they figure golovkin may be the man to do it.
You are a big fan of mayweather, so naturally you would not like to see this happen.
You would rather golovkin step up as floyd has done and battle it out there.
I guess it would really annoy you if golovkin was the man to take floyds “0” away from him.
I get it ,I really do……but get over it , let em all go up and down and fight who they want.
We are fight fans , what’s not to like about it.
Line em all up and let them fight each other, if the 0 goes then so be it, I would not think any less of floyd, too be honest he,d probably go up in my estimation for taking on such a dangerous looking fighter.

Posted November 3, 2013 1:47 pm 


SREDMOND

It’s just TOO easy to say “No one” can beat a guy when he’s facing opponents put in there to make him look good.. I would love to see him in there with a strong fighter like Murray who can take a good shot and keep coming.. Sooner or later if Golovkin wants the questions to go away he’s gonna have to find his way into the ring with a fighter that’s gonna get him that respect should he prevail..

Posted November 3, 2013 1:44 pm 


Happyboy

Thrashnephilim – being an Eastern Bloc fighter has nothing to do with questions about GGG’s skills, in any sport you are judged by the calibre of your opponents which his resume lacks in depth. Stevens is a BUM not rated in the top 10 by any of the organisations. Until he raises the bar and beat world class boxers like Maravilla and fellow belt holders questions will always be raised. Cutting off the ring and spanking a Curtis Stevens proves nothing new about his skills he needs to fight better competition in order to be recognised as a good MW champ especially when his over 30 yrs old and bern a PRO for over 7 yrs.

Posted November 3, 2013 1:44 pm 


PEEJ

I never said I was against it because of the revenue. Someone posted saying it would do more buys that what Floyd and Canelo did and I was just explaining that no way would it come close to that. GGG is not popular enough. Not saying he won’t reach that because if he keeps doing what he is doing he will be there pretty quick like.

Posted November 3, 2013 1:40 pm 


Limeyjay

Dmax…..I come on this site to chat with fellow fight fans, I happily converse with all races, nationalities.
I am not racist, homophobic, quadraplegic or bionic….I must admit I don’t like spiders, if that makes me a wrong un , then I,ll just have to live with that.
I don’t care if sred is a racist, that’s up to him……i guess it just makes his posts redundant.
Sred has an ego, and he can’t agree to disagree and move on, he resorts to insults at times, I get it.
I still don’t really care , that just shows me what he is all about I guess.
I will still address him though, when I feel I have something. Want to say to him, or discuss with him…..if that’s ok with you.
I don’t know why you chose to name check me , and mock me.
I am a father of four boys and have neither the time nor desire to partake in playground tittle tattle with you or anyone else….as I said earlier , I come here to chat with friendly fans about boxing, it’s getting harder to do that of late but, I,ll stick with it.
Anyway I,m off to bath my kids and read them a bedtime story.
I,ll leave you to police this place in my absence…..good luck with that.

Posted November 3, 2013 1:39 pm 


SREDMOND

Old Yank, if you think that GGG is “SOOOOO amazing” then why have you stuck him at 160-154 when the man has NEVER fought at 154? He’s a mature man physically he’s 31 with close to 30 pro bouts as a MW yet you wanna bring him down to 154 to face smaller boxers? How is this a display of confidence? Shouldn’t you want to see this fighter at 160-168 if you think he’s a future Hall of Famer???? I sense something is off in your assessment of this guy… Mayweather went up 4 divisions without even being a BIG puncher, PAC Man did it, Marquez and Cotto also BUT you want GGG to create a legacy by moving DOWN? What’s next 147? 140?

Posted November 3, 2013 1:38 pm 


Tomato Can

So who at MW has the potential to beat GGG, I don’t see anyone out there.

Posted November 3, 2013 1:34 pm 


Tomato Can

GGG, hasn’t beat the best, but he’s clearly out classed everyone he’s faced up to this point. Martinez fights on HBO, I doubt he’ll face GGG, and if he does, GGG will stop him within 5 rounds. Quillin isn’t skilled enough to beat GGG. So who at MW has the potential to be GGG, I don’t see anyone out there.

Posted November 3, 2013 1:32 pm 


Adrian

Hate a kill – lol so who ggg should have asked to fight ?? Lmao!!!

Posted November 3, 2013 1:27 pm 


Hate’tah kill’a

Plain and simple shredmon is correct. You do not get props in the real boxing world until you beat the best. All of you on ggg’s nuts are groupie fans hoping he turns out the way you fantasize about him. I call you guys wishing on a star fans. Did you groupies hear kellerman ask ggg who he wanted? Yes he chose 2 names that showed what he truly is….Martinez who is seriously hurt,38yrs old and he has nothing to prove to hype man. Then quillen who he knows is with showtime and will be a difficult fight to make. Next up in Monte Carlo will be another c-leaguer. But he said he will fight anybody but manages to avoid saying names that will fight him in a heartbeat. Anybody who thinks he stands a chance with the frochs,wards,etc is coo coo. As fans who really kno boxing we demand that ggg come out of the C-Lane and start fighting fighters instead of opponents.

Posted November 3, 2013 1:22 pm 


Tomato Can

In GGG’s defense, solid middleweight fighters have always looked to build their names against smaller opponents. Hagler/Hearns; Hageler/Duran, Hagler/Leonard; Nunn/Curry; Nunn/Starling; Hopkins/Trinidad; Hopkins/Delahoya… The thing is in everyone one of those fights the smaller fighter had more to gain than lose… I’m not so sure GGG/Mayweather would offer the same for Mayweather at this point. Now if Mayweather wasn’t in the drivers seat, things would be different.

Posted November 3, 2013 1:19 pm 


SREDMOND

Adrian, your brains fried Macklins NOT Martinez best win he’s part of his body of work and the FACT that Sergio stopped him first is gonna get Martinez MORE credit…Martinez has defeated Pavlik, Chavez, Williams, Barker and Murray…. Again after a recycled Macklin GGGs resume is WEAK and Stevensons a step DOWN again my willingness to educate a serf such as you shows my pity for the inept..

Posted November 3, 2013 1:17 pm 


Anonymous

The idiot who wrote on some Boxing Site that Mago has a small blood clot that required “only” minor surgery should be banned from writing. A small blood clot is like being only 1 week pregnant. Hoe do you spell Joe Mesi? And this moron is a member of the BWAA. It figures.

Posted November 3, 2013 1:14 pm 


SREDMOND

Mayweather and Ward are “Special” they beat ELITE and World Class opposition making it look EASY… GGG and Ward have roughly the same number of bouts and the difference in the quality of their last 5 opponents is NIGHT and day….GGG’s gonna have to stop the padding to win me over… Sorry

Posted November 3, 2013 1:12 pm 


SREDMOND

Limejay in regards to your asking “if I see GGG having a special skillset at this point” the answer is NOT as of now…The most consistent thing I hear guys discuss is his ability to “cut off the ring” well that’s not something I consider special… I
See a very strong guy with heavy hands but technically Golovkins not showing anything extraordinary maybe he achieves notable results against some SEROIUS opponents in the future with what he has but his overall skillset is nothing I have not seen before…Martinez is a guy who possessed special skills that got him from
147 to 160 where even as an older fighter he became lineal
And booked defens against the best the division had to offer… If Golovkins so special why are the zealots on here keeping him quarantined at 160 with the goal of going to 154 to face one of the smallest WW’s around who began at 130?? Shouldn’t his
“Special skills” cement him as too
Man at 160 then, have him look north on the scale??

Posted November 3, 2013 1:08 pm 


Adrian

Tomato can – yes I agree with that , he will move up after a few title fights ,I see him fight Chavez and Martinez then I see him move up and he should .

Posted November 3, 2013 1:08 pm 


Tomato Can

GGG, will more than likely run things at MW for a while, then venture up to 168 for bigger paydays.

Posted November 3, 2013 12:56 pm 


Adrian

Peej- I agree floyed is small to fight ggg and I don’t think is a fair fight but you shouldn’t bring another reason why are you against that fight like the revenue …if you think floyed is small to fight ggg stick to that but the reason that ggg dosent bring money dosent hold any water !

Posted November 3, 2013 12:54 pm 


Tomato Can

GGG, is one of HBO’s best things they have going, and he has the potential to be their best. HBO will do whatever it takes to keep GGG on their roster, and Mayweather has a minimum of for fights left with Showtime.

Posted November 3, 2013 12:47 pm 


D Max

haha at limeyjay for ever doubting sredmond is racist. reminds me of those dumb pc drones who wanna wage world war 3 if some white public figure cracks a mildly offensive vaguely racist joke but don’t get in the least bit offended or outraged if a group of black thugs run amok around town with kill whitey t-shirts on beating random white folk to death with crowbars.

sredmond gets so much hate on here because he’s a lying hypocritical racist scumbag. he brings it all on himself. stop trying to reason with him. there is no reasoning with people like him. his black supremacist and anti-white racist agenda is always the main motive behind anything that comes out of his mouth.

Posted November 3, 2013 12:47 pm 


Tomato Can

Mayweather/GGG isn’t in the cards at this time; there’s too many roadblocks for that fight to happen anytime soon.

Posted November 3, 2013 12:45 pm 


PEEJ

A Floyd vs GGG fight would not sell more than 2.2 mil. GGG does not have that type of following. But also Floyd is too little to fight GGG. Floyd is too small to fight any 160lb fighter. Heck Floyd is pretty much too small to be fighting 154lb fighters. He is a small WW.

Posted November 3, 2013 12:41 pm 


Tomato Can

I don’t see Martinez or Quillin giving GGG much of a problem. He wins both those fighters impressively and easily IMO.

Posted November 3, 2013 12:40 pm 


123=VI

@badger

wow good job by GGG. Stevens looked like a sub novice golden glover.

At least Stevens looked like a novice, Canelo looked like he forgot he was Mexican on a very important Mexican Holiday when he fought Floyd.

Posted November 3, 2013 12:39 pm 


Tomato Can

Old Yank, agreed. GGG is the goods. He can break down an opponent like the best of them. I think he’ll be a hand full for anyone up to 168.

Posted November 3, 2013 12:38 pm 


nameless

Old Yank, you are probably the sharper poster in ESB history but like SREDMOND, you should stay away from predicting because you have always suck at it.

Posted November 3, 2013 12:38 pm 


Adrian

SREDMOND

Seriously watching you guys get soooo over the top while Golovkin pads his record is comical… This fight was considered a forgone conclusion for good reason, Stevens was gutty but grossly overmatched, he was there to be beaten and he was…. If this makes GGG “the best out there” then Sergio Martinez must be the Best ever for beating Pavlik, Williams, Barker, and Macklin…GGG should not take another fight till it’s against a REAL MW player if he wants to be taken seriously by astute fans who have seen this movie entitled “Padded Record” before… He did the expected job against Stevens but showed us some future liabilities…

Posted November 3, 2013 12:13 am

Here is one post where you clearly say Stevens is ggg best win but then you mention macklin for Martinez …! Lmao!!! Hypocrit. !!!

Posted November 3, 2013 12:36 pm 


123=VI

@SREDMOND Floyd doesn’t fare good with Fans either that’s why he has to fight on Mexican Holidays with smaller Mexicans to sell PPV becaused he knows they will pay to see him lose, against Canelo he was force and it paid-off for Showtime and GBP 2.2 Million Mecicans and Mexican-American paid to see Floyd lose, against GGG more than 2.2 million will pay to see Floyd lose becaused it will not only be Mexicans and Mexican-Americans but Russians, Filipinos, Asians, the whole world.

Posted November 3, 2013 12:36 pm 


Limeyjay

Adrian….cheers bud.
I know all this about sred….I have just given him the benefit of the doubt in the past, I guess I just like to see the best in people, not the worst.

Posted November 3, 2013 12:35 pm 


Adrian

If he start criticizing boxers of his race*

Posted November 3, 2013 12:27 pm 


Adrian

Limejay -his reasoning for calling ggg a hype job is that he just can’t stand white boxers to succeed I realize that a long time ago …and I really don’t care about any on racism but this guy will do anything call you names attack you personally if you start criticizing his race that’s sad but it is true … Just ask him one question wich white boxer he like he will never ask you … He never give credit to calzaghe he says he “slapped” his opponent and fought not hof, then of course when it comes to klitchko he claim got a decade now that the fought no one and they suck , now he goes after ggg ,see the pattern ??

Posted November 3, 2013 12:26 pm 


Hecdog

GGG is barely starting to get more exposure, and he really hasn’t fought any real big names, but trust me, he’ll continue to get better, and he has no fear of anyone. No one beats him even at 168. This kid has the amateur pedigree and the work ethic and commitment to be one of the best. His name will gain popularity world wide as he continues to beat everyone. He can fight you anywhere,. can punch and goes to the body. No one beats this kid for awhile. Martinez, Quillin, Mayweather or Ward lose against GGG. He’s going to get better still, trust me.

Posted November 3, 2013 12:15 pm 


Limeyjay

Sred that’s not the point I,m making at all.
The point is you were quick to notice what you thought was a skillset beyond the hype with broner, and voiced just that…..i,m not proclaiming that you thought he is the second coming, just that you as a boxing man saw something you believed would bear fruit in the future.
I,m asking can you not see that with golovkin.
Never mind who they have/ might/ might not / should have fought, or what anyone else thinks of them.
I wanted to know what you saw in him, obviously you choose not to see beyond the hype, that’s ok and probably a wise move for someone with a fragile ego like yourself.
You are waiting to see if he can clean up first I get it.
Something tells me you will still be critical if he becomes an atg.
I,m hoping you will prove me wrong…but I shan’t hold my breath.

Posted November 3, 2013 12:14 pm 


Old Yank

I could give a flaming fart about hype; I KNOW what my eyes tell me. And unless GGG pulls a Pavlik-like mental breakdown, he’s real and he’s got the goods to be competitive with, if not beat anyone at 154 and 160.

What were haters saying about Ward before he did some whoop-azz on the 168 pound division — “padded record”; “he’s not fought anyone yet”; “he’s got chin issues”; and on and on and on with the absolute bull crap that clueless fans often come up with.

Yes, it’s true; GGG does not have the hide of a Martinez or a Quillan or a Cotto or Lara or Alvarez hanging off his belt yet — emphasis on YET! But he WILL!

GGG is no hype job. He’s real.

Posted November 3, 2013 12:13 pm 


badger

wow good job by GGG. Stevens looked like a sub novice golden glover.

Posted November 3, 2013 12:12 pm 


SREDMOND

No one knows GGG I was at one of the biggest sports bars in Brooklyn and they did NOT even turn off the sound of the College games… For REAL ATTRACTIONS it’s $30 on fight night for GGG NOTHING and Stevens is a guy from Bk but like GGG he’s not someone the casual fans gonna know… Above 147 Mayweather ONLY DOES mega events, Cotto, Canelo, Oscar…. GGG is MW small fry who would get paid 2.5 mill and a box of French Fries he has no real fanbase…

Posted November 3, 2013 12:10 pm 


123=VI

Showtime has a chance to show HBO on how to sell record breaking PPV back to back years with Floyd vs Canelo in 2013 and Floyd vs GGG in 2014 come on LETS GET IT ON SHOWTIME. I already purchase Showtime and if this fight Floyd vs GGG doesn’t happens in 2014 I’m going back to HBO.

Posted November 3, 2013 12:09 pm 


SREDMOND

Golovkin can point towards all the WW’s he wants Thrash maybe that’s why he’s NOT Tops in his present weight class? Instead of getting the right fights and focusing in real competition in his division he’s consumed with stopping C level fighters like Stevens and getting in the Deli Line to blow Floyd Mayweather…LOL…. “He cuts off the ring” yeah against guys who cannot fight let’s see him beat a healthy Martinez even at 38 or whatever Sergio is…

Posted November 3, 2013 12:06 pm 


123=VI

Showtime and GBP knows that Floyd vs GGG is a MUST for Floyds 154 WBC belt, GGG will come down from 159 to 154 EASY for a big fight with the #1 p4p Floyd why wouldn’t he or anybody for that matter. iwhen that fight happens in 2014 PPV will break the all time record for sure.

Posted November 3, 2013 12:03 pm 


SREDMOND

Thrash, what does GGG being from Eastern Europe have to do with a padded record? Ishida, Ouma, Rosado, and Stevens are not from Eastern Europe and I consider them WEAK foes at 160 pounds..These are the guys GGG is getting all this hype for defeating so your Red Hereing argument has been pretty much destroyed…. You gotta be smarter than this man!!

Posted November 3, 2013 12:02 pm 


morrongon

Perez vs Magomed, best HW fight I have seen in a long time, both men are winners. First time I have seen Perez and I am very impressed with his skills and his chin.

Posted November 3, 2013 11:59 am 


SREDMOND

Lime jay, I’m not a guy who needs a consensus to make my points or stand by them…
As it pertains to Golovkin the hype is GROSSLY out of proportion to the fighters he has been beating and I’m simply NOT gonna back off that till proven otherwise… His amateur record does not matter almost 30 bouts into his pro career and to date he is shown he’s a guy who is merciless when dispatching C level fighters… But when guys dismiss proven commodities like Ward, Martinez and Mayweather by holding up GGG’s padded record vs their profiles in the sport I’m calling that out… I have ALWAYS maintained that Broner is a WORK in progress where do you see me saying he’s a HOFER?? By the time Broner fought Gavin Rees he had ALREADY faced Ponce De Leon who is World Class and beat the living hell out of Demarco who was the BEST 135 pounder in the world at that point… When has GGG taken out the Top fighter at 160 or even one of its strongest contenders?? Broners moving up divisions and facing a hard yet crude puncher like Maidana whereas guys are trying to sell Golovkin as a 154 pounder who has fought ALL 28 or so of his bouts above 154??? Again these are just facts I can certainly be won over when Golovkin gets WELL beyond Stevens level and keeps it trucking till them I’m gonna call out “HYPE” where I see it…

Posted November 3, 2013 11:56 am 


ThrashNephilim

But don’t worry, Floyd will not fight Golovkin. You see, he did everything to keep from fighting PacMan. He is smart enough to know who poses an enormous threat. He would out price himself, want all kinds of tests, then swabs, then say he needs to earn it then tests again, then outprice himself until, it never happens.

Posted November 3, 2013 11:50 am 


ThrashNephilim

SRedmond, All you are doing is validating your fear, on the record. And stop acting like you’re all of a sudden this Golovkin expert of sorts because you have no interest in Eastern Bloc fighters much less have more insight or be an expert on them. Since when did raising the bar mean going up in weight?! I guess you can twist that saying however you feel necessary but what you are doing is again hoping for Mayweather, that Golovkin doesn’t point a glove in his direction. Because I know, and you know deep down in your little soul that Golovkin is no Alvarez, no Guerrero, Cotto, Mosely, etc…. He can cut the ring off and no matter how fast a fighter is, Golovkin WILL track you down, break you down and lay you down if the ref or corner doesn’t show pity first.

Posted November 3, 2013 11:42 am 


Limeyjay

Sred….you know how all this works, your no dummy fella, in fact your a pretty sharp individual.
But you do like to get too involved in all this back and forth stuff on here.
In the past I have had your back on many topics ,on others I have not agreed but always read your posts and knew that you put forward a pretty reasoned argument for you beliefs.
But I feel I must raise the issue of golovkin and hype with you.
A fair while back , I think after the broner-Rees fight, many posters were calling broner a hype job, and playing down his achievements.
As I recall both you and I said that never mind who he has fought up to date, if you can’t see that the kid is a bit special you must be blinded by hate….you got a lot of stick, some racist stuff slung your way.
Me being a white Londoner didn,t come in for any stick for my comment, cos that was all I wrote .
You carried on fighting your corner in your usual way ,and it winds certain individuals up as you well know.
I understand that when you go down a certain path when praising/ slagging off a fighter then it’s hard to do a u-turn somewhere down the line when the said fighter has done enough to change your mind ( not for me it isn,t but I understand ego gets in the way with some people)
So what I want to know is do you honestly believe that golovkin is a hype job.
Do you not see something a bit special in him?
I know he hasn,t yet fought the people that would cement his status as a great fighter, but you know as well as I do that this doesn,t really matter……after all floyd still gets stick from plenty of people, even now after all he has achieved.
Now I,m not a huge fan of floyd the man , but as a fighter I give him the utmost respect, and tend to dismiss those that are blinded by ego or hate in their criticisms of him.
You sred are a pretty clued up dude, but i struggle to understand your reasoning on golovkin, his amateur record and pro record to date suggests anything but hype….you can only beat who is put in front of you and so far he has done it in style.
For me …he walks through Martinez and anyone else at the weight.
Time will tell if he is the real deal…..for now I,m on the golovkin bus…..there’s plenty of room on here if you change your mind .
I must warn you though that the wheels could come off at any time.

Posted November 3, 2013 11:32 am 


SREDMOND

GGG is no one for Mayweather to be protected from anymore than Chavez Jr or Martinez they don’t fight in Floyd’s division all are 160 pounders… Besides GGG Is NOT doing anything to warrant a shot at the TOP fighter in the sport and one of the best of all time by facing WOEFUL opponents like Curtis Stevens and padding his record… If Floyd was gonna fave a MW (which he’s not) it would rightfully be Lineal and Ring Champ Sergio Martinez NOT the obscure, overhyped and under challenged Golovkin who is being kept away from serious foes at 168 while looking for the next serial loser, failed 154 pounder or blown up 147 pounder to face… Stevens? Man was picked becauses he’s well under a World Class fighter…

Posted November 3, 2013 11:31 am 


Thurmal Underwear

haha he hurt that hood rat.

Posted November 3, 2013 11:29 am 


MAGOMED ABDUSALAMOV

recovering from bloodclot

Posted November 3, 2013 11:26 am 


SREDMOND

Thrash, Mayweather and GGG don’t even fight in the same weight class…. EVER what were the results of his (Golovkins) last bout at 154??????? never been there besides since dropping weights GGG’s game all of a sudden maybe FMJ should get down to 140 again?? I thought the bar for Greatness was MOVING UP??? Mayweather did that 4 times hence he is lineal in 4 weight classes and a Champ in 5…. GGG is a fractional belt holder in ONE and wants to move down in weight?? HAHAHAHAHAHA!!

Posted November 3, 2013 11:26 am 


John Digby

This was not surprising, it was predictable.

Posted November 3, 2013 11:23 am 


ThrashNephilim

SRedmond, you can’t protect Mayweather and try to redirect Golovkin to other fighters and then say how GGG is inferior and Mayweather is better because… Stop protecting him and projecting then! If he’s that bad, you should be all for it! I am! Lace em’ the f@@k up!!

Posted November 3, 2013 11:23 am 


SREDMOND

Tark, I SAW you write the words because we debated your stances NOW you are morphing the outcomes because you are NOT man enough to accept you’re in the wrong side of results… You and Bears are like WORSE versions of Boxtra when it comes to being wrong because you will rewrite history and make excuses, about training camps your not a part of…I don’t get bent out of shape when a fair result is rendered if Floyd got stopped I would not blame Aliens or Uncle Roger the results are what they are… You make excuses and and change stances like Bears because your fragile ego cannot handle being on the wrong side of a prediction… This is weakness!!!! You cannot pull for Canelo openly then say “he was dead in the ring when he loses” this EXCUSE about making weight is treated like a get out of jail free card by BUMS like yourself and fellow “Rump Ranger” Bears….ie “Let GGG drop to 154 but of he loses we will cry foul and steal credit from his opponent”….. CORNY OLD MAN

Posted November 3, 2013 11:21 am 


MJames

Breaking news … word on the street is that Khan V Mosley is happening. A nice, safe faded “name” for Khan. Shane will show up for the cash and make Khan look good in what amounts to a glorified sparring session. The idea is to feed Khan a “name” who is well past his prime, so Amir can win easy and then keep lobbying for his retirement fight against Mayweather. Khan won’t fight anyone in their prime at this stage, it’s all about making careful moves, just to get a shot at Floyd. Sickening. The Mosley fight will happen at 147. Should happen in late January. You heard it here first.

Posted November 3, 2013 11:20 am 


ThrashNephilim

SRedmond, thank you for your transparent candor. You successfully have successfully expressed your dire need to protect Mayweather from ever coming into contact with GGG punches. What’s more is that the others you named all have something in common. Shall we just say that this is vintage SRedmond?

Posted November 3, 2013 11:19 am 


123=VI

Khan has a better chance against STAMINA plague Canelo who LOOKED very bad against Floyd than fighting Floyd. GGG vs Floyd and Khan vs Canelo.

Posted November 3, 2013 11:16 am 


Popkins

Where’s the poster that calls himself “Magomed Abdusalamov” gone?…he’s been on this site loads lately, but as soon as Mago gets schooled, he vanishes!

Posted November 3, 2013 11:14 am 


123=VI

140 pounds Khan is NOT even 1/2 percent of what GGG is but its ok for Floyd to fight him but not GGG. at fight night GGG only weight 165 compared to the SOLID 173 pounds Canelo.

Posted November 3, 2013 11:12 am 


TARK

Sredmond says.., “Tark, you are the SAME analyst that initially predicted that Ortiz would pull a Terry Norris on Mayweather and the gave Canelo real odds of beating Mayweather as well…”

You’re always putting words in my mouth. I never said Ortiz would pull a Terry Norris. I alway had Floyd beating him. I never gave Canelo odds on beating Mayweather. I always said Floyd was the GOAT.

I always had Mayweather beating Ortiz. I always said Ortiz had NO jab and was a quitter… I frequently compare Mayweather with Leonard—because Leonard, while fast and skillful offensively, was not the defender Floyd is… SRL didn’t deal with right hands as well as Mayweather and Ortiz has a quick right hook. I predicted Norris would be too fast and skillful for SRL.. When I saw Ortiz a few days before the Mayweather fight I posted he would be gone in 3 rounds.. He didn’t look confident and wasn’t talking with any confidence.

I had the odds for Mayweather-Canelo at 8:5 for Mayweather…

I was leary of the judges the whole way, just like I was for Mayweather-DLH.. Corrupt judging can kill you.. I also thought Canelo would make the fight closer and put up a better fight … but I always had Floyd winning. I stated before the fight that Canelo looked badly parched and weight drained.. I expected him to be inactive during the fight, which he was — but I always had the fight going 12 rounds.

You perdicted Floyd would KO Canelo and that was extremely unlikely.

Posted November 3, 2013 11:08 am 


SREDMOND

GGG weighed in at 159 1/2 just like Chavez Jr weighs in at 160 then blows up to 181…Golovkins NOT 159 1/2 on fight night NOR is that his walk around weight… Mayweathers not even close to his weight class weighing in under 150 at times the ACTUAL night of the bout… If Golovkin is all that guys say he is let him go pick off the very tough Froch at 168? Or even Martin Murray at 160? Martinez? Chasing a WW is just more of him looking OVERHYPED and seeking physical advantage to compensate for a skills deficit… GGG is a TERRIBLE boxer when compared to the technical skills of Floyd Mayweather…. No intelligent comparison there, besides GGG has NEVER made 154 as a pro nor beat a legit fighter there….

Posted November 3, 2013 11:07 am 


123=VI

GGG only weight 159 that’s how small he is, Floyd shouldn’t have a problem fighting him for the 154 WBC belt.

Posted November 3, 2013 10:54 am 


123=VI

undefeated Floyd vs undefeated GGG for the 154 WBC belt.

Posted November 3, 2013 10:47 am 


SREDMOND

The excuses in boxing get SOOOOO bizarre! I read on another site that Mago had a small blood clot in the brain, and that “he broke his nose” NOOOOOOO Perez broke his nose, I never saw Abdulasamov get a running start and slam his face into a wall…
Jesus, once you sign a contract it’s up to the fighter to be READY, if you body breaks down that’s NO excuse you gotta show up in shape and find a way to win… Too many PUNKS on this site making excuses for PRIME age boxers losing “training camps, weight, distractions, mind games” being a winner is about overcoming obstacles… Usually starting with yourself

Posted November 3, 2013 10:35 am 


srminimo

Mike Perez welcome to America! I have to give Mago props, he fought much better than I though he could and showed a ton of heart. But man, Perez can take a punch and when was the last time a HW threw 800 punches in ten rounds? He probably could have made this fight easier on himself and would be even better losing 10 pounds, but I’m not complaining. Probably the most entertaining HW fight since Holifield Bowe.

Posted November 3, 2013 10:28 am 


SREDMOND

Both those HW’s showed good stamina and fought to the end though tired… I give Abdulasamov credit, he’s tough and fought thru some pain because Perez busted his face something awful…

Posted November 3, 2013 10:24 am 


nameless

“I never thought Mango was that good in the first place. “…..Meja, mango is a delicious fruit and you should try it when it is ripe.

Posted November 3, 2013 10:23 am 


huckster

perez-solis might be a fun fight to watch.

Posted November 3, 2013 10:05 am 


meja

I never thought Mango was that good in the first place. He got owned by Price back in the amateurs.

Posted November 3, 2013 9:54 am 


huckster

mago’s balloon got popped.

Posted November 3, 2013 9:48 am 


SREDMOND

That HW fight was better than anything Wkad showed in years, guys were punching in combination and doing actual body work… Perez jab simply BROKE Abdulasamovs face and he walked him down… Good action fight and thankfully the judges were NOT blind…

Posted November 3, 2013 9:42 am 


Maribor Komar

Sure Golovkin has been a little bit exposed tonight and I don’t see him beating Ward.
But he maybe will make some adjustements after this fight and if he fights smaller guys, he will prevail, specially: Sergio is done (unless I am wrong, he won’t take those shots), Chavez Junior will be destroyed.
A fight against Froch would be interesting, because Froch is a tricky, very tough and bigger…
On the other hand Carl is a risky fighter and GGG would have some opportunities…

So, if I was his promotor, I will advice not to go up a weight class.

ps. Stop racial comments, no one of us has chosen his colour. Moreover, you can fiind much more things in common with a guy of your opposite colour…

Peace.

Posted November 3, 2013 9:41 am 


Tony1244

I alluded to GGG being good, but I hate to be on the same side of “anonymous” on anything. The Mago beat down was quite fun to watch.

Posted November 3, 2013 9:36 am 


nameless

I will right after i fock you.

Posted November 3, 2013 9:33 am 


Anonymous

nameless, FU.

Posted November 3, 2013 9:31 am 


nameless

He should not be attacking TARK tough, I like TARK.

Posted November 3, 2013 9:29 am 


nameless

That is a fact but he makes good points nevertheless.

Posted November 3, 2013 9:26 am 


Anonymous

“SREDMOND can’t predict the sun will rise tomorrow…….” LMFAO!!!!

Posted November 3, 2013 9:23 am 


nameless

“he is a petulant, unfair, selfish coward.” selfish coward? AssyrianGod, what the hell happened to you?.

Posted November 3, 2013 9:18 am 


SREDMOND

Adrian, WHERE did I say” Macklins a C fighter” no at his best Macklin was a B- level guy at which point Martinez stopped him… He is Golovkins best win AFTER Macklin the drop off is TRAGIC and Macklin in isolation is not a barometer of Greatness…
Are you still gonna “break my bones” I thought that was EASILY your funniest tantrum EVER…!!! Thanks for soiling the thread with your period blood… HAHAHAHA!!

Posted November 3, 2013 9:16 am 


SREDMOND

Wider is overhyped too, he looks like a stiff…. Look what happened to Price??? And that was against a 40 year old fighter…Guys get ahead of themselves maybe Golovkin proves to be something special but that’s not gonna happen against this level of opponent… This is resume padding at its finest…

Posted November 3, 2013 9:12 am 


nameless

“i dont know that i would pick frock to beat ggg.”…me neither because i don’t know who frock is.

Posted November 3, 2013 9:10 am 


SREDMOND

Tark, you are the SAME analyst that initially predicted that Ortiz would pull a Terry Norris on Mayweather and the gave Canelo real odds of beating Mayweather as well… I’m not a bookie if a fighter wins or loses on a given night I go with the results absent complaint… Like Bears you have gotten into the habit of morphing your predictions and discussing factors ie “training camps” that you have 00000000 first hand knowledge of… Let’s be CLEAR you don’t train pro fighters, you are NOT an insider, you’re an OLD, DECAYING internet Clown who along with fellow crackpot Bears tried to lobby to have Lennox Lewis DQed after 10 years LMAO…! There is not a stable bone in your body… Until Golovkin beats the REAL MW Champ or begins stopping some ranked fighters he’s simply a guy with a gaudy KO record that’s being overhyped relative to his ACTUAL resume…
TRUTH!

Posted November 3, 2013 9:09 am 


Palooka

Golovkin’s gloves are tampered with.

Posted November 3, 2013 9:07 am 


huckster

damn . . . golokin ouch!

Posted November 3, 2013 9:06 am 


Hosteen

No one is more hyped before proving himself against someone with a pulse than is Wilder

Posted November 3, 2013 9:04 am 


SREDMOND

Cyber Hamster, why wouldn’t you wanna see GGG beat Martinez and take over as lineal champ if that’s his destiny?? Martinez is the MOST decorated MW on Earth and winning a close bout with Murray does NOT change that… Do you want us to put GGG in the HOF because he beat former “chin checker” Curtis Stevens??? He does NOT have a Murray, Quillin, Barker or even Chavez Jr on his CV thus he’s a bit of a paper champion who’s really not been really tested…. And the guy really has NOOOOOOO head movement…

Posted November 3, 2013 9:01 am 


SREDMOND

Wards not a big attraction at this point maybe he won’t be… But he owns 168 like nobody’s business and his legacy is looking awesome…!!!!! Mayweather was not a massive PPV guy till he fought ODH and then kept winning, time will tell in the meantime Wards dominating and gettin more aggressive ask Dawson who he made QUIT…

Posted November 3, 2013 8:54 am 


Psalms5113

Dude still on his smartphone being a bully . It’s people like you Mr ANONYMOUS that makes this country full of hate and evil . You speak of everyone that doesn’t agree with you as black racist . I got off this blog site at 12:30am and it’s 7:45 and your still going with your hate . Man this blog site is suppose to be about boxing not the white man vs the black man . Dude I want to feed that hate BUT what I will do is pray for you this morning .

Posted November 3, 2013 8:52 am 


SREDMOND

Steve, GGG does not have to beat an “Elite Fighter” how about some WORLD CLASS or fighters that are actually ranked?? The hype train is off the charts and the guy is beating a slew of soft fighters…. I don’t consider Broner to be a finished product either but the FACT is that he won titles in 3 weight classes already and has faced World Class opponents Demarco (best LW at the time) Ponce De Leon and Malignaggi who has fought everyone… Broner is now slated to face Maidana 3 divisions above where he started and Maidanas a tough fighter that gives everyone problems…. NONE of these guys are Mayweather or Ward but the amount of HYPE Golovkin is getting for beating these type of opponents is out of proportion to the challenge… Steve understand it’s natural for you to be angry, I’m a guy waking you up from the dream that Golovkin is Marvin Hagler, Monzon or Hopkins truth is that he’s NOT the top MW in the world and is not gonna get his respect fighting Stevens, Ishida, Ouma, and Rosado…Enjoy me ruining your Sunday!!

Posted November 3, 2013 8:51 am 


huckster

lucas browne clears one out and moves one up. Price next.

Posted November 3, 2013 8:50 am 


Reality

Sredmond, yeh Ward is good. But boring as hell, thus no decent fan base. No ppv?

Posted November 3, 2013 8:48 am 


punch

Well said Sredmond.

Posted November 3, 2013 8:45 am 


SREDMOND

HaHaHa guys act like Ward made up the rules and venues for the Super 6…. The guy was NOT even favored to win that was Kessler, it’s comical how bitter people are that he dominated your fighters and did it beyond ALL doubt…. There is and was NO safe place for Kessler, Froch or any of them to fight SOG, he would beat their azz if the fight took place on the moon….Real men respect actual results instead of crying about factors a fighter can control with his fists…

Posted November 3, 2013 8:41 am 


urone2

AssyrianGod,

So if you enter a contest on continue to win the right t obe first you should take the second choice to be fair. That’s an excuse not ot like a fighter. Me i don’t really like Wards style of fighting but he won with that and made himself number 1 at 168.

GGG, I wont jump on the train on him right away he just reminds me of Mattysse to much. We all saw how he was out boxed by Garcia. GGG in a top teir fight then I’ll say yay or nay. My question will be what happens when the power doesn’t do the job, does he have something esle.

Posted November 3, 2013 8:38 am 


Xavier

Golovkin is very good…anyone with two eyes in their head can see that.

Posted November 3, 2013 8:33 am 


Tony1244

Golovikin is REALLY Good ! But you knew that already.

Posted November 3, 2013 8:18 am 


punch

Stop projecting Anonymous, you have reared your ugly face countless times. We know who you are fake ass hypocrite.

Posted November 3, 2013 7:42 am 


punch

You keep calling other racist whilst you make yours. You stupid hipocrite, it’s not my fault that your sister and mother prefer you know what, hahaha go and find a Hood and try a raid and see how it goes you brainless twat.

Posted November 3, 2013 7:39 am 


punch

Anonymous the biggest White zero on the site calling others racist, just shut up you low-life scum of the earth.

Posted November 3, 2013 7:36 am 


Anonymous

doesnt matter what you meant to say, you should have said nothing. youre an idiot and a bigot.

Posted November 3, 2013 7:32 am 


Anonymous

oh brother. another bitter black jerk that is pissed off that a black guy got his ass handed to him last night. not impressed by ggg but this tool below is impressed by wilder. that says it all.

Posted November 3, 2013 7:31 am 


Anonymous

anyone should make idiotic comments about wilder. he sucks. perez would destroy wilder’s sorry ass by ko. he would not last the distance.

Posted November 3, 2013 7:29 am 


punch

I meant to say “Mago should’ve stuck”

Posted November 3, 2013 6:58 am 


punch

Where is Mago? He got his jaw finally smashed as I predicted. He will in a world of pain and confused looking for Perez who schooled the tool. Mago should’ve sticked to training and not come up here to make idiotic comments about Floyd and Wilder.

Posted November 3, 2013 6:54 am 


punch

Ward fought all the best that 168 has got to offer, I’m still waiting for GGG to do the same. Comparing Wards flaws to GGG’s is like comparing apples to oranges. Ward has a faster and more accurate jab and he will pepper GGG face with it all day whilst taking very little damage. Saying he hasn’t got power when he has enough to get Abraham, Froch, Bika, Kessler tentative all bigger than GGG with iron-chined, is simply idotic. Do you think Ward will be intimated by GGG’s power? Hell no, Of course he’s not stupid to take his punches which he will side step, slip and duck with ease whilst unleashing his counters. GGG will be totally lost trying to figure Ward out. Ward won’t have to look for GGG though as he will be there to take all his punches like he was taking them against Stevens who is awfully slow, short-armed and lacked defense.

Posted November 3, 2013 6:50 am 


Adrian

Shlomo a, great post I agree completely. I can tell you know about boxing a great deal.

Posted November 3, 2013 6:49 am 


Popkins

Yep I agree with a couple if the other posters. GGG shud stay put at 160 and dominate there. Pretty soon the bigger names outside of middleweight will be dropping down to or bulking up to face him. Triple G’s KO reputation will quickly make him more marketable than guys like Ward and Froch.

Posted November 3, 2013 6:40 am 


hookoffthejab

Curtis Stevens would give Sergio a real hard time …..Marriville would be on his bike all night long …..

Posted November 3, 2013 6:39 am 


Big Al

Let’s get real. Martinez has one, maybe two fights left in his soggy body and he’s going to milk them for all he can. Sure as hell ain’t gonna waste them in the crosshairs of someone like GGG or Ward, who will demand something like 30-40% of the purse. He needed a year to recup from Martin Murray, just imagine how long his hospital stay would be after GGG? He wants to go out looking good and throw his opponent only 15-25% of the pie. So unless he can get a junior rematch, it’ll likely be against a couple of guys who have a big enough name just to make it interesting but not a threat as to permanently disable him either. I’d say people in the caliber of Delvin Rodriguez, Brian Vera, Sergio Mora, Curtis Stevens, and for his last hurrah he might go for broke with Barker, Sturm or Cotto.

Posted November 3, 2013 6:15 am 


Shlomo A

There are flaws to every fighter. Watch from the side of the ring long enough and you think you can see just how to beat anyone. Golovkin lacks head movement? How much did he need to use exactly? I watch Golovkin take a shot to set up two or three others, where slipping might take him out of position for what he wishes to do. Other fights highlight some of GGG’s defensive skills. Not great, but they are damn good.

So, we watch the little flaws and think that boxer A, B, or C could easily capitalize on them. Andre Ward is a great example. Not the best jab in the business. Not any power to speak of. Not exactly the most entertaining. Know what? Ward carries a tool box of various good skills into the fight and uses them all in combination. Ward creates problems that Froch, Kessler, etc., could NOT solve. GGG does much the same to his opponents.

Posted November 3, 2013 6:05 am 


Shlomo

There are flaws to every fighter. Watch from the side of the ring long enough and you think you can see just how to beat anyone. Golovkin lacks head movement? How much did he need to use exactly? I watch Golovkin take a shot to set up two or three others, where slipping might take him out of position for what he wishes to do. Other fights highlight some of GGG’s defensive skills. Not great, but they are damn good.

So, we watch the little flaws and think that boxer A, B, or C could easily capitalize on them. Andre Ward is a great example. Not the best jab in the business. Not any power to speak of. Not exactly the most entertaining. Know what? Ward carries a tool box of various good skills into the fight and uses them all in combination. Ward creates problems that Froch, Kessler, etc., could NOT solve. GGG does much the same to his opponents.

Posted November 3, 2013 6:04 am 


Anonymous

redmond is a self hating white tr0ll

Posted November 3, 2013 5:39 am 


BEARS

i dont know that i would pick frock to beat ggg. i would prolly pick ggg to win. the only question at 168 is ward. and nobody watches ward fight.

Posted November 3, 2013 5:12 am 


Beasty

sredmond – back to the cotton fields, now! go back to work or I’ll trade you for a horse, got it?!

Posted November 3, 2013 5:08 am 


Lenin

@punch
True! GGG should stay at 160 where he can outgun his opponents. At 168, things would be different with Ward and Froch.

Posted November 3, 2013 4:54 am 


Popkins

… GGG will stop Sergio.

Posted November 3, 2013 4:43 am 


Popkins

Great win for Perez. Hope he stays active now, puts together 2 or 3 more wins and gets a title shot. … Don’t think Martinez is young enough to holy GGG off anymore.

Posted November 3, 2013 4:42 am 


punch

GGG is in fact the best at 160 anyone arguing against that doesn’t know what they are talking about, however once he steps up and go to 168 or 175 where most of his peers are some of whom in fought in the amateurs. GGG will get his own for his limited defensive skills.

Posted November 3, 2013 4:35 am 


Stevo

SREDMOND doesn’t like to withold praise till someone has beaten a perceived elite fighter. He’s been up all over Broner’s nuts since he first appeared on the scene.

Broner should already have at least 2 loses on his record. The much smaller Ponce De Leon and some palooka named Fernando Quintero already beat him and many also feel Malignaggi did enough to beat or at least get a draw against him. And that was a way past prime Malignaggi.

There are four things which characterize SREDMOND

His racism
His woefully bad fight analysis and prediction skills
His comical stupidity
And his constant lying

Posted November 3, 2013 4:33 am 


Cyber-H@mster

In all seriousness, SREDMOND basically sets out the parameter that you need to beat Martinez to deserve any praise at MW – everything else is C-level it seems.

This ignores the fact that Murray DID beat Martinez, yet isn`t being showered with plaudits as being an elite fighter – because there is recognition that Martinez has slipped (and that Williams and Pavlik are not that skilled).

Allied to this Martinez is currently a walking injury – and by Redmonds viewing it would be impossible for anyone at MW to actually be an elite fighter until he recovers, at which point we`’ll hear that he is past his prime anyway.

So what – the division is held hostage?

Posted November 3, 2013 4:28 am 


Fight Aficionado

Why am I not surprised SREDMOND AKA Supreme Clown is here pissing all over Golovkin? The game’s up, you blew it when you forgot to change your screen name weeks ago. This is a confirmed fact. Therefore whatever you’re mumbling has no credibility.

Posted November 3, 2013 4:02 am 


Anonymous

good hw fight. much better than that pathetic circus act wilder last week.

Posted November 3, 2013 3:56 am 


Anonymous

redmond will “withhold praise” until GGG turns black.

Posted November 3, 2013 3:55 am 


Lenin

Quillin and Martinez vs. GGG! GGG will take the all out. He’s the real deal @ 160.

Posted November 3, 2013 3:54 am 


Fight Aficionado

Fun HBO card tonight. Compare Perez-Margo to Wider-Firtha last week. Both were undercard support, one was a meaningless prospect vs punching bag match, the other a war between two undefeated prospects. Bigups to both men for taking the risk and putting it on the line. As for GGG, that look on Stevens’ face when he got smacked down in round 2 tells it all. Beast.

Posted November 3, 2013 3:52 am 


Cyber-H@mster

I can see why some people take Golovkin eating some punches as a bad defence, particularly when he has his hands not low, but not guarding either.

I believe they are mistaken though.

Golovkin is deliberately aggressive, not recklessly, but you can`t attack openly while wearing earmuffs and he trusts his attack to do his work, and in 350 amateur fights and 28 pro fights noone has proved him wrong – at least not to the degree of putting him down or hurting him.

I appreciate someone like SREDMOND likes to withold praise till someone has beaten a perceived elite fighter, and I do hold to that to a degree, provided so called elite fighters will get in with you.

Howevere you can look at any one of Golovkins opponents pre fighting GGG and ask “What would be a good result vs this guy? What would an A-Leve; elitte guy do to them?” and for the most part that is what Golovkin has managed.

Look at the rest of MW – it is Martinez and Quillin. Martinez is injured, lost to Murray who Golovkin has as a mandatory. Martinez struggled with Macklin who GGG whupped.

Quillin just fought Rosadao and got very luck, GGG kicked the $.h.!t out of the guy.

Quilliin opined before this fight that Stevens was the biggest puncher at middleweight and that after he KO’ed GGG it would be Stevens vs Quillin for all the baubles.

Now that GGG just sm.ackba.gg.ingly ba.lls.m.acked Stevens – will Quillin fight him………………….(tumbleweed blows past)………..

Posted November 3, 2013 3:31 am 


Cyber-H@mster

test

Posted November 3, 2013 3:30 am 


QUINCY

BEST HW,FIGHT IN YEARS.SSS..SINCE I SAW ,MOVEMENT AND SKILLS ON TOP OF A GREAT CHIN FROM THE CUBAN……I WONDER WHY IS THE FIRST TIME I SEE THIS MIKE PEREZ GUY,WHO PACKED A PUNCH AND A GREAT HEART!!!…..NO MORE KLISTCKO MMA ,MEGA-FIGHTS….THIS’S WHAT HW BOXING SHOULD BE!!!

Posted November 3, 2013 3:27 am 


Adrian

I just watched direll vs Stevens and lol direllfot his dear life all night long and when Larry merchant asked Lewis would you pay to watch this kind of the fight he said ” yes I would because direll is victorious ” lmfao!!! Larry replied “sometimes you win by losing”

Posted November 3, 2013 3:21 am 


punch

Ward is a running hahaha, funny that fools say that, the Guy is undefeated yet he’s a runner. GGG likes to get hit well let him fight a boxer who likes to hit but doesn’t like to get hit back. GGG is in for a rude awakening. GGG will eat jabs and right hands all day whilst missing miserably with his shots. I guess that what you GGG fans don’t want to see when you say Ward is a runner.

Posted November 3, 2013 3:16 am 


Anonymous

he will not be ok. he is a dirty, useless racist that will get his ass kicked one day.

Posted November 3, 2013 3:15 am 


nameless

As long as SREDMOND stay the fock away from predicting he will be ok.

Posted November 3, 2013 3:04 am 


nameless

SREDMOND can’t predict the sun will rise tomorrow, that’s how bad he is making predictions but he is not all bad. He makes sense in other areas and I like him as much as like TARK…..i do think that TARK is a better historian and makes more sense, in general.

Posted November 3, 2013 3:00 am 


Doggie

I hope froch & ward step up to ggg threat… Froch will be exciting- ward, ggg better wear a helmet for the illegal head butts-
My prediction is he’ll manhandle both. He manhandled canelo & chavez jr during sparring. Google it!

Posted November 3, 2013 2:58 am 


punch

The chances of GGG landing such a lefthook against Ward is remote if not zero.

Posted November 3, 2013 2:50 am 


punch

I meant “reset”

Posted November 3, 2013 2:48 am 


TARK

Sredmond…, “if Martinez retains most of his speed, and regains his health he should be able to defeat GGG without issue.”

This is the kind of idiocy you get from the guy who said, “Marquez will KO Bradley… Matthysse will KO Danny Garcia… Peterson will beat Matthysse… and Floyd will KO Canelo.”

Sredmond.., You’re just a very poor analyst.. You throw out wild guesses.. You have no idea what would happen in a Golovkin-Martinez fight, so it is not “clear” to you.

But I’ll tell you.. Golovkin would FLATTEN Martinez.. Martinez’s hands down, dancing, face foreward style would come a cropper against GGG’s aggressive, aharp shooting accuracy. GGG would get him out by the 10th at the latest.. Probably a lot earlier because of his style advantage.

I love the fact that Stevens didn’t go out in 2 rounds… GGG needs rounds because he KO’s everybody.. He got a few good rounds in, and the opportunity to throw 800 punches against a bull strong, iron tough opponent with lights out punching power. Many boxers would have stayed on the canvas after that left hook.

Posted November 3, 2013 2:47 am 


punch

Where is Mago?

Posted November 3, 2013 2:25 am 


punch

I hope we don’t hear from Mago again about Floyd being scared and won’t fight GGG, the idiot had a fight on his hand against Perez and he was busy posting idiotic comments. As for GGG, he’s good not great because to be great you have to have good defence. if not, you wiil be figured out and the blueprint is there to beat GGG, it’s a jab, a straight right and a jab again then rest, they will always find their mark as long as you have the reach to do it since GGG has got limited defence including zero head movement. Who’s got such skillset, you know his name and GGG knows his name. Let him send him a lucrative contract and he will get his own just like Mago, hahahaha.

Posted November 3, 2013 2:24 am 


Doggie

I really enjoyed Golovkin’s ring control & the way he cuts the ring and breaks the body of his opponents down… Bottom up & vice versa . I freakin’ love what i see. I’m on the cool-aid. I’m a fan for sure.

Posted November 3, 2013 2:23 am 


B Red

The dude stevens has very limited skills

Posted November 3, 2013 2:22 am 


Adrian

Tomato can – if you say so…

Posted November 3, 2013 2:19 am 


Tomato Can

No really, I think GGG is a great fighter. He punches like a mule kick, and has very good ring generalship. It’s easy to see, he’s a very schooled fighter. He’s not the fastest, or best defender, but he can break down fighters quickly. GGG, is going to be hard for anyone to beat.

Posted November 3, 2013 2:05 am 


Tomato Can

Het Adrian, is your last name Balboa? lol

Posted November 3, 2013 2:02 am 


Adrian

Cyber hamster , sredmond wrote that macklin is a c fighter …but he put macklin in Martinez record as one of the middleweight that ggg can never beat hahAhahahahaha

Posted November 3, 2013 1:50 am 


Cyber-H@mster

SREDMOND – Who are the A and B ranked fighters at Middleweight?

Posted November 3, 2013 1:47 am 


Adrian

SREDMOND

Adrian, did you say “you would break my bones” HAHAHAHAHA!! C’mon man you have a WOMANS name and the emotional makeup to go with it..! Are you gonna pull a Bears or Lion King proposing that we meet at high noon for a duel? Stop letting me destroy your nonexistent manhood so easily it only encourages my bad side… :)

Posted November 3, 2013 12:36 am

And what’s your good side ? Your asspussy? Hahahahaha

Posted November 3, 2013 1:45 am 


obbieman

Stevens is a very good middleweight who found out early on in the fight that Golovkin is simply a class above him. “I can hit hard, but he hits harder.” He did hit GGG with shots that would give other middleweights fits, but GGG didn’t even flinch. Easily the best middleweight.

Posted November 3, 2013 1:34 am 


SREDMOND

Anonymous when are you gonna man up and choose a screen name??? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Posted November 3, 2013 1:29 am 


hookoffthejab

GGG VS Sergio is starting to sound like Manny VS Junior …….never going to happen ……..

Posted November 3, 2013 1:29 am 


SREDMOND

EXCUSES are NOT boxing knowledge…! When do guys discuss camps in a negative light ???? AFTER the lose and need an excuse to sell themselves again.. Before that “Best Camp, Best Shape of my life”….. No intelligent fight fan listens to that CRAP… Results are what matters..

Posted November 3, 2013 1:28 am 


Anonymous

SREDMOND

“You are seriously a CRAZY MFCKER Man….”

And you’re a racist low life piece of crap. Hated by many here. You’re in the same boat as the likes of Hitler. Round of applause for SREDMOND the racist.

Congratulations. Well done.

Posted November 3, 2013 1:27 am 


SREDMOND

Bears, Dawson’s preparations are his own issue and Google does not produce the type of excuses I accept.. You basically ADJUST your argument to the outcome..that’s called being a Monday Morning Quarterback…. ie Canelo is gonna SMASH Floyd ? DOES NOT happen… “Bears new headline… Canelo drained can barely lift his hands” HAHAHAHAHAHA Ridiculous!

Posted November 3, 2013 1:25 am 


punch

Mago got his jaw shattered that was priceless. Where is Mago?

Posted November 3, 2013 1:22 am 


SREDMOND

Losing 7 pounds does NOT “permanently damage” a fighter that’s ridiculous… I never gave Roy Jones a pass and he dropped 25 after Ruiz to face Tarver…If you believe dropping weight “destroys boxers” you idiot why would you even discuss GGG cutting pounds???? You are seriously a CRAZY MFCKER Man….

Posted November 3, 2013 1:21 am 


BEARS

hbo was all over dawson in all access asking him if he’s gonna be making excuses if he looses. his post fight interview he was obviously not going to. dawson was getting schooled and dropped in camp by lesser fighters. dude. a simple google search reveals as much if your interested in taking your boxing knowledge from mediocre to shallow google it.

Posted November 3, 2013 1:20 am 


Flash

What you mean nobody at 147. Lil Broner gonna finish up some easy work at meet Floyd for some more real big numbers. Then watch out Khan.

Posted November 3, 2013 1:19 am 


SREDMOND

Really Bears??? How was Dawson “fried in camp” were you there??? He did not make a peep about the Ward fight till it was time to do the Stevenson bout… You are SUUCCCHHH a fan of excuses when asked about his weight in the ring AFTER he lost to Ward, Dawson just said SOG was a GREAT Champ…. “He was fried in camp” as usual making things up like you were there… And it’s a boxers JOB to prepare himself for the fight should he fail that’s just inadmissible UNLESS Bears does NOT like the result then all excuses are open to discussion LMAO!!

Posted November 3, 2013 1:18 am 


Anonymous

Stevens face after he got knocked down in round two was hilarious. ‘Like what the hell just happened?’ LOL

Posted November 3, 2013 1:14 am 


SREDMOND

Sure Bears I’m sure YOU of all people “know ” what people who pay to see Mayweather fights are thinking LOL… All this from your command post on the mountain with 2 years supply of Canned food and plenty of Ammo to defend yourself from the Zombie Apocalypse… HAHAHAHAHA! Remember to keep your shortwave radio tuned in… Too funny!!

Posted November 3, 2013 1:11 am 


BEARS

I’m not into fighters coming in less than 100% condition. dawson was fried in camp and getting dropped before he even faced ward. we all know it. it doesnt matter to me if you omit the facts to fit your agenda but you are never thorough in your boxing knowledge. canelo’s stamina was discussed before he even signed to face fraud may. there are east side articles even discussing it. is the boiling down effecting stamina? even leonard ellerbe frauds manager went on a tirade about it and calling canelos managment inept for it. so pretty much everyone but you understands its a factor. Im for fighters fighting at 100% of their condition. if ggg can make 154 and be 100% cool. but only these fighters know their bodies. canelo was affected and dawson was totally FRIED. we have seen VARYING EFFECTS OF THE WEIGHT DRAIN. my only position on it is i want to see fighters in 100% condition. i dont want to see fighters get permanently damaged like dawson

Posted November 3, 2013 1:10 am 


GaryintheBronx

GGG VS MARTINEZ as soon as humanly possible!!!!!

Posted November 3, 2013 1:09 am 


Gerard

Money May said that he was the best at 154 but I guess he not his fans believe it. GBP aint got nobody at 147 so since Floyd is so little maybe he should go down to 140.

Posted November 3, 2013 1:09 am 


SREDMOND

Laj, I’m not interested in GGG’s amateur career with headgear and amateur rule…. His pro career is RIFE with weak opponents which is fine to a point but if you wanna sell a guy as “the man” it’s not gonna fly off the Stevens of the world….I remember Cotto destroyed some guy who beat him as an amateur…This is the Pro’s GGGs gotta earn his stripes

Posted November 3, 2013 1:07 am 


BEARS

who cares about climbing weight classes as you get older? big deal. you think people dont grow or something. boxing is not about climbing weight classes and if it were. pacs got fraud TRUMPED son. boxings glamor division the heavyweights doesnt have anyone climbing weights. i couldnt care less about little boring fraud mayweather. or ward. clearly nobody else cares about ward either. a ton of mexicans just want to see fraud loose and he makes a lot of money on that. it’s not an indication of how much floyd is “liked” or “supported” as schmuckmond would one believe. if you like the ducking frauds and wards of the world cool. I dont. I dont like their styles, i dont like frauds history of ducking, i find both fighters boring as all hell. pac is a far more entertaining fighter than fraud. its not debatable. pac is not financed by a country of people who want to see him loose. pac is the second highest paid athelete in the world and non of it is based on people who want to see him loose. and he has a style thats about 10 times more entertaining than frauds.

Posted November 3, 2013 1:05 am 


SREDMOND

Bears, Stevens weighed more or less the SAME he used to fight at LHW…. You did NOT wanna give Ward credit when Dawson dropped to 168 of his OWN accord and Dawson has weighed in at 174 1/2, and actually fought at 168 as a professional… What’s the difference between the Amt you propose GGG dropping and Dawson??? There is NONE… Now instead of shaving 7 pounds like you are open to GGG doing Canelo had to drop 1.5 from his weigh in against Trout to fight FMJ… Canelo actually fought at 147 before…. See this all just illustrates that you are a LIAR, TOTALLY INCONSISTENT and A FLIP FLOPPER of the worst kind… Case Closed..

Posted November 3, 2013 1:04 am 


Prof Konje

Old Coot. Nicely said. We are equal and none better or worse than the other. Too much talk of ethnicity and nationality. LIghten up and let’s talk boxing.

Posted November 3, 2013 1:03 am 


Boxing Newbie Jr.

Whaa? Are you for real, African? Do settle down now – your man Curtis Stevens let you down this night. If you stop chewing the khat leaves, you will see that ‘the dream’ is lost (despite the rantings of Fraudley Harrison). Back to the drawing board for world domination? Thought so.

Posted November 3, 2013 1:01 am 


Tomato Can

GGG, can make 168 without thinking, and Mayweather can make 150 soaked and wet. Yet Bears wants a GGG/Mayweather fight at 154. This is the same Bears who relished that thought of seeing a 175 pound Canelo Alvarez catch Mayweahter with one clean punch, for the ko… LMAO… Boxing fans are some of the funniest people…

Posted November 3, 2013 12:59 am 


LAJ

SREDMOND GGG had a 345-5 amateur record beating Dirrel, bute and a number of other top fighter, never down. Martinez in his present state loses badly to GGG. He doesn’t have the power to keep him off and GGG is better technically, plus far more power. The Martinez that beat Pavlick maybe, Martinez now, no way. So what is your hard-on? What would you like to see him do?

Posted November 3, 2013 12:58 am 


SREDMOND

Bears, your getting killed in here MayweAther began at 130 and fought as high as the 154 pound class while not making the limit… For GGG to accomplish anything close he would have to almost go to Cruiserweight… Yet you FEAR GGG adding 8 pound? Despite saying he’s soooo fearsome and that he can take anyone from 168 to 154? You were of the opinion that Canelo would destroy Mayweather till you saw him LOSE then you started discussing excuses which I said you would because you do it EVERYTIME you don’t like a result…

Posted November 3, 2013 12:58 am 


BEARS

ggg weighed 159.5 pounds dude. you think its some major feat for him to make 154??? I dont subscribe to that opinion. I’m all for a ward fight. it would be wards toughest opponent to date. ggg can fight fraud, ward, martinez, and he will most likely face canelo at some point. ggg has a lot of super fights to make. the only guy who has super fights available to him throughout his career and ducked them all was fraud mayweather. not meeting paul williams, fake retiring, not meeting pac, then said he would fight martinez and ducked that. fraud mayweather is the proven biggest ducker and cherry picker in boxing bar non. its not even debatable. you cant be a duck and be in the GOAT conversation. sorry fraud nut huggers

Posted November 3, 2013 12:54 am 


Slime Monster

MAGO v PEREZ = best HW fight this year.. Feel bad for MAGO, was very close, without the broken jaw (?) he would have bossed Perez. But yeah, awesome fight. Hope Clinchkock was taking notes.

Posted November 3, 2013 12:52 am 


SREDMOND

Bears, wants SMALL fighters to move up and face Golovkin BUT he wants to keep Golovkin away from bigger boxers??? Classic Bears!!! GGG’s such a beast that he’s confined to 160 or smaller BUT Marquez, Mayweather and Broner must “suck” while the moved up multiple weight classes???? Bears cried like his little girl when Canelo came in at 152 instead of 153 1/2 the weigh in befor against Floyd….But suddenly GGG dropping a full 7 pounds he NEVER did as a pro is no big deal… This creep (Bears) alters reality to suit whatever fairy tale he’s telling on a given day… Sheesh

Posted November 3, 2013 12:52 am 


Done deal

Ward P4P#2 Martinez P4P #3. Ward is undefeated and has beat much better comp than Martiz. GGG would get much more credit for beating Ward.

Posted November 3, 2013 12:50 am 


BEARS

i know. ggg can fight ward at 168 and make him come in two pounds lighter like mayweather did to canelo. LOL!!! the tables need to be turned on fraud and ward. no more favoring. fraud comin in overweight against jmm and being allowed to fight a 154 title fight at 152. ward never leaving his back yard. just garbage. these guys are boring as all hell anyway. money team is SCRAMBLING right now looking for the next mexican or they are not making much “money”. i would love for mayweather to fight bradley just to prove where the “money” is coming from. hahahaahahahaahahahahh!!!!

Posted November 3, 2013 12:49 am 


punch

bigger in terms of competition if that is too hard for your brain to decipher.

Posted November 3, 2013 12:48 am 


Anonymous

which fight is bigger Ward or Martinez?

Ward can’t even get his family to come to his fights, who cares about him?

Martinez sold out an entire stadium back home in Argentina against Murray.

It doesn’t take much to figure which is the bigger fight.

Posted November 3, 2013 12:46 am 


SREDMOND

How can “GGG” make 154 Bears? Cause he said so??? Before you were saying Ward was ducking GGG now you’re saying GGG is too small?? Are you retarded? Wait don’t answer OF COURSE you are!!! Golovkins ONLY fought at MW but he’s really a 154 pounder? Jesus you are beyond crazy and contradictory…

Posted November 3, 2013 12:45 am 


punch

AMERICA ISN’T A WHITE MAN’S COUNTRY, AND NEVER WAS GO GET YOUR HISTORY LESSONS IDIONYMOUS.

Posted November 3, 2013 12:44 am 


Tomato Can

LMAO@ BEARS: “ward would be a lot bigger than ggg. ward can fight at light heavy and ggg can make 154. enough said really.”… WTF, Bears, you’re the fan of seeing big fighters beat on little fighters. GGG, is a monster at 160, and you want to see him beat up on little 147, and 154 pounders, yet you don’t want to see him at 168? What the heck is up with that ????

Posted November 3, 2013 12:43 am 


SREDMOND

Martinez took Macklin out first, and Macklin struggled with Sturm… Macklins GGG’s best win but he SURE as hell ain’t Martinez best win… Sergio has been facing the best the division had to offer MEANWHILE GGG was facing guys who could NOT make a splash at 154 like Rosado, Ouma, and Ishida who was BADLY on the slide…. Perhaps GGG will prove something of note but right now he’s alongside former fighter from the TV show “The Contender” Jesse Brinkley (good lord) as a guy who beat Stevens… It’s time for better comp or the questions will abound… Broner and Canelo BOTH fought some sound World Class fighters and GGG’s best night is a Martinez table scrap, and now you lunatics trying to sell Stevenson as the next big thing HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

Posted November 3, 2013 12:42 am 


LAJ

GGG vs Ward would be fun to watch, but pick Ward in that one. Mayweather would be interesting, but just think Martinez is not what he used to be. To say ggg is ducking anyone though is just stupid.

Posted November 3, 2013 12:38 am 


BEARS

ward would be a lot bigger than ggg. ward can fight at light heavy and ggg can make 154. enough said really.

Posted November 3, 2013 12:37 am 


SREDMOND

Adrian, did you say “you would break my bones” HAHAHAHAHA!! C’mon man you have a WOMANS name and the emotional makeup to go with it..! Are you gonna pull a Bears or Lion King proposing that we meet at high noon for a duel? Stop letting me destroy your nonexistent manhood so easily it only encourages my bad side… :)

Posted November 3, 2013 12:36 am 


matthews

Yet no one wants to fight him.

Posted November 3, 2013 12:35 am 


punch

Stop talking about Martinez GGG, folk here are saying GGG wants bigger fight , well which fight is bigger Ward or Martinez. Ward will school that tool when he gets into the ring with him. Too holes in GGG defence for him to have a field day with.

Posted November 3, 2013 12:34 am 


SREDMOND

Adrian, why not see GGG vs Martinez? Of course you would want that the day after Martinez surgeries and without a tuneup after being on the shelf.. I would like to see that fight in 2014, Martinez does not have that long left anyway he’s had to go under the knife after his last 2 bouts..And stop being childish ie GGG called him out so tomorrow it’s gotta happen, Sergio Martinez is the true MW Champion of the world, GGG is a beltholder taking easy fights but I do like his instinct to get things over with against his C class opposition..

Posted November 3, 2013 12:33 am 


JT154lbsChamp

Has Stevens ever thrown a jab before. I would like to see him fight Barker next. Guy is so tough. That would make a great fight. I think GGG needs to fight atleast one guy better than Stevens Ihsida and Rosado. Those guys were tough but not as skillful as the Martinez Ward and Barker. Only mentioning ward because GGG is willing to move up.

I like what I see from GGG and its time the top guys at 160 put their belts on the line against him

Posted November 3, 2013 12:32 am 


Adrian

SREDMOND

Adrian, that’s classic TRUTH..Who’s the NEXT sub pat fighter he’s gonna face?? Floyd could face a Moutain Lion who was RING CHAMP in 15 divisions and you’d have an issue.. This guy beats up an uncredentialed boxer put in there to lose and you are “tinkling” in your panties and changing your mascara LMAO..! If You wanna act like Golovkin walks on water it’s gonna have to be against better comp than this… Chavez Jr was getting called on the SAME thing…

Posted November 3, 2013 12:21 am

Hahahahaha who mentioned floyed???? I am not saying anything about ggg I am just in awe what kind of a obvious hater you are and I promise you if I saw met you in the street I would break you bones for attacking me personally here but since you are a keyboard and wanna model you are safe … Stick to boxing in here if you can handle

Posted November 3, 2013 12:32 am 


The Prince

If GGG beats Martinez, the I’d say he’s ready for SMW, since he would’ve cleaned out the division and proved himself the true MW champion.

Posted November 3, 2013 12:32 am 


punch

Where is M<ago saying he was going to KO Perez, hahhaha, the fool got schooled. When GGG steps up he will get his own too.

Posted November 3, 2013 12:31 am 


BEARS

macklin dropped martinez and martinez finally got mack out in the 11th. ggg dominated and destroyed mack. who was ranked top 10 and now ranked 8 or 9 stevens got JACKED UP!!!! I don’t think anyone questions who the number one guy in ggg’s division is, as i dont think anyone is that delusional. martinez is done. his body breaks every time he enters the ring. his legs are pretty much gone. anyone even talking martinez at this point is a fool. if chavez jr can scare martinez. ggg can clearly finish him

Posted November 3, 2013 12:31 am 


david d.

Now that’s a championship fight! Two talented and tough boxers taking risk in a sport that demands risk to be taken in order to be proven….something other paper champions should learn to do!

Posted November 3, 2013 12:30 am 


Cyber-H@mster

SREDMOND – okay name the A and B class fighters at MW.

Posted November 3, 2013 12:29 am 


SREDMOND

Bears, Golovkin is SLOW and he has NOT fought anyone I see a much more talented fighter like Martinez breaking his come forward pattern, giving him angles and potshotting much like he did against Chavez Jr before the 12th and Chavez was SUPER huge at MW…
GGG has shown he’s lethal against C class fighters but I see better quality fighters with holes to exploit… Stevens??? C’mon that was a known layup..!

Posted November 3, 2013 12:28 am 


Tomato Can

GGG, was the ring general in that fight, the win was never in doubt. It’s going to take reach, timing, speed, power, and a lot of skill to beat GGG. I don’t see anyone around 160 that can do it. I’m not sure what happened to Pirog, he may have had a shot, but it looks like he’s done. So as long as GGG can make 160, he’s going to be tuff to beat. Things start evening out at 168, but even there GGG has more experience than most there.

Posted November 3, 2013 12:27 am 


Cyber-H@mster

Well Golovkins “Sub par” KO victim Rosado sure did a pretty good job of slapping Quillin around.

Posted November 3, 2013 12:27 am 


Adrian

Yes Martinez never ducks no one and now that ggg called him out tonight we should get a fight right ? But if you ask the sredmond he will still say ggg needs to fight someone good before 2025 …lol like macklin was a bum but when Martinez fought macklin was not a bum for sredmond …lol

Posted November 3, 2013 12:26 am 


Anonymous

If Golovkin is so bad, and Fraud Mayweather is so great, you guys won’t mind Fraud stepping into the ring with GGG and defending his 154 belts then will ya :) Ohhhh I remember now, you Fraud lovers always look for a reason for Fraud not fighting GGG.

Posted November 3, 2013 12:26 am 


Proud African

Why do you call SREDMOND a racist? He’s a gentleman. Oh yes, you never mentioned the guy that wanted to put me in the cotton field. You must be a racist yourself.

Posted November 3, 2013 12:25 am 


punch

GGG beats a shortarmed, no defence fighter but with decent power punch fighter and stopped him as I predicted. He can just call Ward out send him an attractive contract, K2 and HBO can afford it, so GGG get his ass handed over to him like Mago got his tonight.

Posted November 3, 2013 12:24 am 


The Prince

Tomato Can – Sadly certain people do want to bring back Jim Crow era America. I’m not even going to talk about this past Halloween nonsense, since this is a boxing site.

Posted November 3, 2013 12:23 am 


Anonymous

“your an imbecile sredmond. your posts are liabilities to your intelligence.”

It’s much worse than that BEARS

SREDMOND is a full on racist. The worst here by a long way.

Posted November 3, 2013 12:22 am 


SREDMOND

Adrian, that’s classic TRUTH..Who’s the NEXT sub pat fighter he’s gonna face?? Floyd could face a Moutain Lion who was RING CHAMP in 15 divisions and you’d have an issue.. This guy beats up an uncredentialed boxer put in there to lose and you are “tinkling” in your panties and changing your mascara LMAO..! If You wanna act like Golovkin walks on water it’s gonna have to be against better comp than this… Chavez Jr was getting called on the SAME thing…

Posted November 3, 2013 12:21 am 


Tomato Can

The Prince, you’re right. I guess to me in this day and age, we should be past that dumb crap. Lately, it seems like we’re degenerating back to the 60’s.

Posted November 3, 2013 12:21 am 


Cyber-H@mster

Yeah if Stevens is supposed to be this chin checker – even at LHW, GGG got his chin checked and didn`t budge.

If he hadn`t been hit we’d still be hearing that he hasn`t had his chin tested.

Well check it out he went in with the divisions next biggest puncher and didn`t box him from the outside – he went right in and broke down a stubborn defence.

Posted November 3, 2013 12:21 am 


Anonymous

Stevens lost as expected :)

Posted November 3, 2013 12:20 am 


dimelo73

Lets keep the topic below 172 pound because heavy weight is a crude and bad joke on boxing fans. Perez and Mago looked like couple of drunk fighters in a bar. As a matter of fact, I have seen bar fights with more athletic display than these two. Unless, Perez gets in shape, he has no business on TV.

Posted November 3, 2013 12:19 am 


The Prince

SRedmond – good point about Martinez not ducking anyone yet. Then he should be GGG’s next opponent.

Posted November 3, 2013 12:19 am 


dimelo73

KL:
Lets keep the topic below 172 pound because heavy weight is a crude and bad joke on boding fans. Perez and Mago looked like couple of drunk fighter in a bar. As a matter of fact, I have seen bar fights with more athletic display than these two. Unless, Perez gets in shape, he has no business on TV.

Posted November 3, 2013 12:18 am 


BEARS

how in the world did ggg show FUTURE LIABILITIES dumba$$ hater? because he got punched???!!!! roflmao @ you!!!!! srredmond. what a turd. can you show me a fight where a guy never got punched? if anything ggg showed he CAN TAKE A PUNCH SON!!!! his mouth piece doesnt fly into the 5th row like when froch jacked wards jaw in the last round providing the best HIGHLIGHT of the fight!!! and the most entertainment!! your an imbecile sredmond. your posts are liabilities to your intelligence.

Posted November 3, 2013 12:17 am 


Done deal

BEARS that’s why Floyd is the highest paid athlete and most watched boxer of all time, because he’s biting lol. Yeah your right lol. P4P list 1) PBF 2) Ward

Posted November 3, 2013 12:17 am 


SREDMOND

Martinez has ducked no one at 160 it’s bogus to assume he’s not willing to face GGG of the money’s right… Besides he’s seen the caliber of fighter GGG has been racking up these KOs against… None of them move like Martinez did when healthy

Posted November 3, 2013 12:15 am 


Tomato Can

GGG, is special at 160. If he can get smaller, like some want he’ll be special at 154. Once he faces fighter’s with a jab, power and resilience he’ll meet his matches above 160.

Posted November 3, 2013 12:15 am 


PEEJ

Good fight. Stevens got some heart. GGG gonna run 160 for as long as he wants

Posted November 3, 2013 12:15 am 


laj

How can anyone think ggg doesn’t have great skills. He threw almost every punchbin the book. No way Martinez or quillan lasts 12. Marteniz 3yrs ago challenge, but not now. Quillan never a threat Rosado beat him up, and didn’t win a round against ggg.

Posted November 3, 2013 12:14 am 


BEARS

you can add pacman to my list of exciting fighters. hbo has a bunch of them in their stable. kovalev, ggg, adonis, pacman, they need canelo and klitschKO. Just an exciting and action packed fight ended in a stoppage. power and knockdowns. these types of fighters are just ten times more exciting than floyd and ward.

Posted November 3, 2013 12:14 am 


The Prince

Tomato Can – As you see, true power comes from not responding to baiters, especially online.

Posted November 3, 2013 12:14 am 


Adrian

SREDMOND

Stevens was on the slide above 160 and his last 4 opponents had something like 30 losses Golovkin did his job against a guy who’s VERY far from World Class… HBO has built him up enough it’s time to step up the guys in his 30′s…

Posted November 3, 2013 12:06 am

Classic hater !

Posted November 3, 2013 12:13 am 


JoeKidd

Demolition with precision. Watch the competition now lining up to face this guy. Right.

Posted November 3, 2013 12:13 am 


SREDMOND

Seriously watching you guys get soooo over the top while Golovkin pads his record is comical… This fight was considered a forgone conclusion for good reason, Stevens was gutty but grossly overmatched, he was there to be beaten and he was…. If this makes GGG “the best out there” then Sergio Martinez must be the Best ever for beating Pavlik, Williams, Barker, and Macklin…GGG should not take another fight till it’s against a REAL MW player if he wants to be taken seriously by astute fans who have seen this movie entitled “Padded Record” before… He did the expected job against Stevens but showed us some future liabilities…

Posted November 3, 2013 12:13 am 


The Prince

GGG did his job, but showed some tells in the process. He might beat Martinez, if they fought. But I don’t see him beating Froch, Kessler, Ward, hell even Abraham would give him problems, but would most likely win against him.

Posted November 3, 2013 12:12 am 


Jb221

GGG will ko Martinez

Posted November 3, 2013 12:12 am 


Adrian

The prince , I respect your opinion but boy you are repeating the same thing over and over again … Ok you are not sold on ggg that’s fine anything else to add?

Posted November 3, 2013 12:11 am 


Proud African

Golovkin’s only asset is his power. If he meets a good boxer-puncher, he’s screwed.

Posted November 3, 2013 12:10 am 


Tomato Can

Cyber-H@mster, that’s wing span reach. Golovkin had the longer reach armpit to fist, he was taller, and much better schooled, it was a predictable ring.

Posted November 3, 2013 12:09 am 


KL

Perez too good for crude but strong Mago. though Perez got sucked into trading punches when he didn’t need to.
Wlad won’t fight a fighter that he currently promotes, so will probably push Perez to go after the WBC belt,.

Posted November 3, 2013 12:08 am 


The Prince

typo = I don’t see Martinez fighting GGG.

Posted November 3, 2013 12:06 am 


Cyber-H@mster

He isn`t a sttraightforward pressure fighter either – he is a very smart boxer puncher who CHOOSES to fight very aggressively because he wants to entertain and destroy.

Martinez is done. He lost to Murray.

Posted November 3, 2013 12:06 am 


SREDMOND

Stevens was on the slide above 160 and his last 4 opponents had something like 30 losses Golovkin did his job against a guy who’s VERY far from World Class… HBO has built him up enough it’s time to step up the guys in his 30’s…

Posted November 3, 2013 12:06 am 


Done deal

Outside of power GGG is nothing special. Just my opinion. Has not Beat one elite opponent yet. Is he skilled? Yes. Your blind if can’t see the difference in skill between him some one like Ward along with several other fighters

Posted November 3, 2013 12:06 am 


Indy

Stevens was also heavier than GGG at the weigh in.

Posted November 3, 2013 12:05 am 


Tomato Can

Prince, it’s getting old to me. Every thread contains it these days. This site never use to be like that, now it’s getting out of hand IMO.

Posted November 3, 2013 12:04 am 


Cyber-H@mster

SREDMOND – Stevens Reach 71 1/2. Golovkin reach 70.

Posted November 3, 2013 12:04 am 


Techniques

GGG should finished that stevens kid in the second round…

Posted November 3, 2013 12:04 am 


dimelo73

GGG looked good against a fighter that was there to fight. Stevens would had knock a bunch of people with those monster shots. GGG was meticulous on his punching and fighting. People always talk about exposing: this is boxing and a punch can change a fight; however, that does not mean that a fighter is bad. Curtis Stevens will clean everyone aside from GGG. He punches hard! I wish he could come down from 160 and challenge 154. He might need to change scenes.

GGG is a complete fighter: punches, moves and adjust to the fighter his fights. We can speculate all the fighters that he can beat and those who could beat him; however, until then, GGG is a very competent fighter.

Posted November 3, 2013 12:03 am 


Tomato Can

What???? Steven’s looked like the much smaller fighter in there… Stevens is 5’7″. Steven’s was as strong as GGG, but the height and the leverage was in GGG’s favor easy. This was a good win for GGG, but it was predictable. That being said, Martinez and Quillin don’t have a chance of beatting GGG, he’s too good. He’s a ring general…

Posted November 3, 2013 12:03 am 


The Prince

Martinez has shown he can get caught and hurt, especially in the later rounds. I see him now fighting GGG. GGG will have to go to SMW where the fight will be tougher for him.

Posted November 3, 2013 12:02 am 


SREDMOND

GGG predictably Beatdown his hand picked opponent but one thing became clear is that if Martinez retains most of his speed, and regains his health he should be able to defeat GGG without issue… Golovkin is pretty SLOW, Stevens being 5″7 and giving up reach still showed that Golovkin is there to be hit and he’s a fundamental come forward pressure fighter with no bells and whistles… It will be interesting to see how he looks when he (GGG) finally steps up in class perhaps in 2025…

Posted November 3, 2013 12:02 am 


Hidalgo

Woop Woop, again: Stevens has fought as a super middleweight and lt. heavyweight. He’s shorter but not smaller.

Posted November 3, 2013 12:02 am 


Proud African

Quillin can destroy the hype GGG. Anyway I’ll be watching Mayweather v Canelo tonight.

Posted November 3, 2013 12:01 am 


Hecdog

GGG beats Martinez, Mayweather and Quillin. This guy is a thinker, comes in shape and his great amateur pedigree make him the top fighter today. He may not look like he’s doing much, but trust me, no one wants to fight GGG. He’s that good.

Posted November 3, 2013 12:00 am 


Hidalgo

Golovkin is a beast! Step up Martinez or Quillin!

Posted November 3, 2013 12:00 am 


CurlyQ.Howard

Watch. It will be even more difficult for GGG to find an opponent now. Watch.

Posted November 3, 2013 12:00 am 


BEARS

knock everybody out NOW THATS ENTERTAINING. not like watching floyd and ward. give me ggg, kovalev, canelo, klitschKO, mathyse ANYDAY!!!!! the most exciting fighters in boxing STOP THEIR MAN MOST THE TIME!!!!

Posted November 2, 2013 11:59 pm 


The Prince

Tomato Can – It doesn’t bother me. I don’t give power to them by responding.

Posted November 2, 2013 11:59 pm 


SRACEMOND

Hey proud African, why you so bitter about the white man?

You want to show some respect or I`ll have you back in the cotton fields you mouthy tw@t.

Posted November 2, 2013 11:59 pm 


Anonymous

Psalms5113

I never said anything racist! That’s in your own RACIST mind! You’re the racist!!

Posted November 2, 2013 11:58 pm 


Tomato Can

the racism on this site is out of hand.

Posted November 2, 2013 11:58 pm 


The Prince

Good for GGG; He named Sergio Martinez. That’s how it’s done. Clean out the division.

Posted November 2, 2013 11:57 pm 


KL

GGG will beat Martinez quite easy.

Posted November 2, 2013 11:57 pm 


me

Great fight ggg is a very good fighter he could beat anyone from 160-168 not named ward. Stevens put up a great fight as well.

Posted November 2, 2013 11:56 pm 


Woop Woop

Breaking news. GGG beats up another smaller guy who is not ranked. GGG got exposed by a small, unskilled, featherfisted guy. GGG could not outbox Ward. GGG could not out tough Froch. I guess as he continues to duck the middle contenders and champs he will head for a fight with more little guys like Cotto and Canelo. I’m sure with enough huff and puff from the fanboys GGG will keep that hype train rolling. Choooooooooo Choooooooooooo!!!

Posted November 2, 2013 11:55 pm 


Yuri

Golovkin wins by stop again! 28-0 25 stopped!

You see all Russia know Golovkin best in world. He win again! Stevens hide behind gloves, lucky he got up from big punch, then hide again :) Stevens punch bag round after round after round. Stevens very good punch bag.

Posted November 2, 2013 11:55 pm 


Proud African

@young deezy. White boxers are boring.

Posted November 2, 2013 11:55 pm 


The Prince

GGG is a entertaining fighter, like Mattseye at WW. Really all KO artist are entertaining to watch. But from what I’ve seen; he’s not unbeatable. Unless he had an off night, tonight.

Posted November 2, 2013 11:54 pm 


matthews

Did you see Stevens facial expression on the knockdown. It was like holy s$%t.

Posted November 2, 2013 11:54 pm 


Yo mama

What. Round was it stopped?

Posted November 2, 2013 11:54 pm 


Done deal

Alvarez would be a very tough for him too.

Posted November 2, 2013 11:52 pm 


Tomato Can

I like what GGG, is down playing the stupid crap.

Posted November 2, 2013 11:52 pm 


Proud African

Toughest fight of Golovkin’s career. Golovkin will be beaten soon. Golovkin is one-dimensional. He’ll soon be exposed.

Posted November 2, 2013 11:51 pm 


Tomato Can

GGG, broke Stevens down like no ones business. It’s too bad that fools like AnonyAss, taint GGG’s performance, with their over the top racial comments. This is boxing not race wars. That was a good, but expected win for GGG…

Posted November 2, 2013 11:51 pm 


Anonymous

HAHAHAHAHA! HE BEAT STEVENS SO BAD HE QUIT. HAHAHAHAHA!

Posted November 2, 2013 11:51 pm 


Box1

Another impressive stoppage for Golovkin.

Posted November 2, 2013 11:50 pm 


Cyber-H@mster

Overpowered the guy who is meant to have power. Took a left hook and didn`t flinch. Pushed the fight to get a stoppage.

That’s what it`s all about.

Posted November 2, 2013 11:50 pm 


The Prince

Overall, I’m not impressed by GGG. He’s really another Mattseye: Nice punching power. A lot of hype. But an elite boxer will beat him. Especially if he moves up in weight.

Posted November 2, 2013 11:50 pm 


Hey, That’s my Bike!!!

Well the GGG streak rolls on. Not exactly impressive though against a guy ranked #16. Still a win is a win.

Posted November 2, 2013 11:49 pm 


Adrian

Done deAl – since you said mayweather will beat ggg then it’s a done deal ,another great win by mayweather !

Posted November 2, 2013 11:49 pm 


matthews

Froch with absolutely no defense and eats punches with his face. G tenderized Stevens tonight.

Posted November 2, 2013 11:49 pm 


Box1

The body punching took its toll on Stevens.

Posted November 2, 2013 11:48 pm 


hookoffthejab

Stevens put up a great fight better than most ……

Posted November 2, 2013 11:48 pm 


Hey, That’s my Bike!!!

That was a 10-8 round. CS took a beating.

Posted November 2, 2013 11:48 pm 


Adrian

The prince , yeah damn ggg if Stevens survives then ggg is not that good … Lmao!

Posted November 2, 2013 11:47 pm 


The Prince

The fight should be stopped now.

Posted November 2, 2013 11:47 pm 


Done deal

Prince I agree Kessler would give him all he wants as well.

Posted November 2, 2013 11:47 pm 


Tomato Can

throw in the towel…

Posted November 2, 2013 11:46 pm 


Done deal

Sergio and Ward would beat him. Cotto and Qullin would give all he wants. Floyd would EASILY beat him since y’all want them to fight.

Posted November 2, 2013 11:46 pm 


The Prince

If Stevens survives this fight, I don’t see GGG lasting long at SMW. Even Kessler would be a problem.

Posted November 2, 2013 11:44 pm 


Hey, That’s my Bike!!!

GGG too busy. CS trying to hit back after taking many hits on the ropes. Not enough to win rounds for CS.

Posted November 2, 2013 11:44 pm 


Done deal

GGG is winning by a good margin. Sorry but I’m not impressed with him. Has a lot of power, but slow, easy to hit, with average head movement. Think he would lose to a number if fighters.

Posted November 2, 2013 11:44 pm 


Adrian

So a “ko artist” like Stevens should have a pretty easy task to finish ggg since some of you are saying ggg is easy to hit ? If not Stevens who will stop him ?

Posted November 2, 2013 11:43 pm 


A

Bearded ape is going down!

Posted November 2, 2013 11:43 pm 


Hey, That’s my Bike!!!

Half way I have it 58-55 GGG.

Posted November 2, 2013 11:40 pm 


The Prince

GGG would lose to a solid boxer, and right now I see him losing to Froch whom he’s talked about fighting next.

Posted November 2, 2013 11:39 pm 


murderman

They banging it out and im at work! Damn! Whose winning yall? What rd?

Posted November 2, 2013 11:38 pm 


Adrian

Hahahahaha … So a puncher like Stevens is there only to show ggg faults ??? Lmao !!!

Posted November 2, 2013 11:38 pm 


Tomato Can

GGG, may not have the best physical strength’s but his power and over all ring generalship is pretty damn good. He’s not the best defender, but overall he’s a very good fighter.

Posted November 2, 2013 11:37 pm 


Hey, That’s my Bike!!!

Confidence is high for CS. GGG shows a solid chin.

Posted November 2, 2013 11:35 pm 


The Prince

At least GGG is moving up to super middleweight and taking on some real challengers after this fight.

Posted November 2, 2013 11:33 pm 


Tomato Can

Stevens got GG’s attention with good punches in the 4th, but it still wasn’t enough to carry the round, IMPO: GGG 40-35…

Posted November 2, 2013 11:33 pm 


hookoffthejab

GGG got stung …..

Posted November 2, 2013 11:32 pm 


The Prince

GGG is nothing special. Stevens should he gone by now. But Stevens is showing GGG’s faults.

Posted November 2, 2013 11:32 pm 


me

Great fight so far

Posted November 2, 2013 11:31 pm 


GONZO OF NAZARETH

GGG is only a puncher, when he meets a capable opponent he would be made to look very ordinary

Posted November 2, 2013 11:29 pm 


hookoffthejab

GGG goes to the bread basket with that lefthook and its allover ……..

Posted November 2, 2013 11:29 pm 


Yo mama

Already?

Posted November 2, 2013 11:28 pm 


Cyber-H@mster

Stevens was down off a left hook – and had a look on his face like “Whaaaaaaaa?”

Posted November 2, 2013 11:28 pm 


Hey, That’s my Bike!!!

Stevens is in survival mode already. He needs to land a big punch and get some confidence back.

Posted November 2, 2013 11:28 pm 


Indy

Who got knocked down?

Posted November 2, 2013 11:27 pm 


GONZO OF NAZARETH

His face after the knockdown was priceless

Posted November 2, 2013 11:26 pm 


Yo mama

Steven not intimidated, he was first and wanted this fight, say he going the ko. Maybe he knows something we don’t know. But GGG also today say he Going for the ko.
This should be exciting and short.

Posted November 2, 2013 11:25 pm 


hookoffthejab

the ropes are part of GGG promotions ….

Posted November 2, 2013 11:25 pm 


The Prince

This fight will end soon, it seems.

Posted November 2, 2013 11:24 pm 


Hey, That’s my Bike!!!

Whoops. Hahaha Nice knock down.

Posted November 2, 2013 11:24 pm 


Anonymous

HAHAHAHAHA! Hilarious

Posted November 2, 2013 11:23 pm 


Tomato Can

1 punch ko power!!!!!

Posted November 2, 2013 11:23 pm 


Hey, That’s my Bike!!!

This fight is going the distance. Im calling it early changing my prediction to a UD for GGG

Posted November 2, 2013 11:20 pm 


Proud African

Curtis!

Posted November 2, 2013 11:19 pm 


Tomato Can

lol @ hookoffthejab

Posted November 2, 2013 11:15 pm 


Tomato Can

He’s an offensive fighter, with explosive power, but he’s not the full package.

Posted November 2, 2013 11:14 pm 


hookoffthejab

i see shades of chicago guy …

Posted November 2, 2013 11:14 pm 


TARK

Oh I`d let Buffer rumble me.

Posted November 2, 2013 11:13 pm 


hookoffthejab

Stevens better off the ropes ….

Posted November 2, 2013 11:13 pm 


Rope

If anyone watching the HBO feed catches the ring weights, do tell.

Posted November 2, 2013 11:12 pm 


Yo mama

How well can Steven box? That be his defense. Soon as he decide who tougher,careless exchanging he get ko.Ed. LOL…

Posted November 2, 2013 11:12 pm 


HatersBeWare

Three fights. Who did he fight. No one. Hype.

Posted November 2, 2013 11:11 pm 


Rope

haha True. But Mago showed a lot of heart in there. That was the first time he’d been past 5 rounds, having to do it with a broken jaw from very early into the fight can’t have been easy.

Posted November 2, 2013 11:10 pm 


Tomato Can

Proud African, is proud, nothing wrong with that. Stevens will have a good chance if he can lands his shots, and avoid GGG’s. I just don’t see that happening…

Posted November 2, 2013 11:09 pm 


Tomato Can

Perez broke his jaw and nose, of corse he looks pretty good. lol

Posted November 2, 2013 11:06 pm 


Kinks

@Tomato can..

Just counteracting Proud Africans bad juju that he is trying to put on GGG.

He sacrificed 12 chickens and daubed his sister Mbuela in their blood and made her dance naked for the tribe to appease his dark gods and have them make the bl@ck guy win every fight on the card.

This racial based deity based interference needs to be stopped.

Posted November 2, 2013 11:05 pm 


Rope

Mago was fighting with a damaged jaw from at least the second round onwards. I think it might be broken. He was real tired from the 5th round onwards too. All those early KOs worked against him. Perez looks good though.

Posted November 2, 2013 11:05 pm 


Hey, That’s my Bike!!!

Get some $$$ on that prediction MM. You’ll clean up.

Posted November 2, 2013 11:03 pm 


Cyber-H@mster

Time to watch GGG trip the mousetrap that is Stevens left hook a few times with feints, till he has it sussed, then he`ll brutalise him.

Posted November 2, 2013 11:03 pm 


Tomato Can

I see Stevens getting out classed, and he’s not a bad fighter.

Posted November 2, 2013 11:02 pm 


Hey, That’s my Bike!!!

Stevens is so scared he has turned white. Oh no, my bad, it is a replay of GGG v Macklin. LOL.

Posted November 2, 2013 11:02 pm 


Tomato Can

Hmmm…

Posted November 2, 2013 11:01 pm 


juggernaut

Mike Perez was impressive

Posted November 2, 2013 11:01 pm 


Hey, That’s my Bike!!!

Can – There is a banner claiming GGG Promotions and K2 promotions. That might be why.

Posted November 2, 2013 10:59 pm 


Tomato Can

Kinks, why’s that?

Posted November 2, 2013 10:58 pm 


Hey, That’s my Bike!!!

So what round does GGG get a KO? Is it his KO to win or is it GGG who gets KOéd? GGG WIN.KO.R6. for me.

Posted November 2, 2013 10:58 pm 


Tomato Can

I can’t argue with the score cards at all, I’m sure some will though.

Posted November 2, 2013 10:57 pm 


Kinks

Good luck to GGG. I hope he puts Stevens in hospital for a week p1$$ing blood out of every orifice.

Posted November 2, 2013 10:57 pm 


Tomato Can

What’s up with the GGG decals on the ropes?

Posted November 2, 2013 10:56 pm 


Hey, That’s my Bike!!!

Fair scores. The early rounds were quite close so I can understand the 95-94 from one judge but I like the 97-92 scores from the other 2. LOL

Posted November 2, 2013 10:56 pm 


hookoffthejab

was holding my breath for a moment haha great to see Mike get the nod ……

Posted November 2, 2013 10:56 pm 


Proud African

Mike Perez looks like Mike Tyson.

Posted November 2, 2013 10:55 pm 


Proud African

Good luck to Curtis. I hope he defeats Golovkin.

Posted November 2, 2013 10:55 pm 


Hey, That’s my Bike!!!

I don’t listen to the often bias commentary. I turn the sound down and make my own mind up.

Posted November 2, 2013 10:54 pm 


hookoffthejab

Mikes right eye looks a little swollen while mogos face looks beaten ……….

Posted November 2, 2013 10:53 pm 


Tomato Can

That was a good Heavyweight fight. 96-93 Perez, but I wont be surprised if the judges call something else…

Posted November 2, 2013 10:53 pm 


Hey, That’s my Bike!!!

Perez hurt Mago in the last. My score would be 97-92 Perez to win. Very entertaining and Perez looked a touch more skilful from the start. Both showed good chins and it was fought at a great pace for heavies of today.

Posted November 2, 2013 10:53 pm 


HatersBeWare

Hbo wanted the Russian to win. But since he is losing they keep saying oh he has so much heart. Hbo always has an agenda.

Posted November 2, 2013 10:51 pm 


hookoffthejab

mago is running from Mike now ….

Posted November 2, 2013 10:49 pm 


SREDMOND

Perez better close strong with that deduction or they might rob him… Those punch stats illustrate the joke Compubox is…

Posted November 2, 2013 10:49 pm 


Hey, That’s my Bike!!!

Too little too late from Mago. Perez chin is solid. Good discipline from the ref. Perez was warned earlier. Perez to win UD Id say.

Posted November 2, 2013 10:48 pm 


CAM

Great updates!! I am at work akr cant watch the fight

Posted November 2, 2013 10:47 pm 


hookoffthejab

Mike should go the body more ……

Posted November 2, 2013 10:45 pm 


SREDMOND

Damn good fight but Perez is beating him up Abdulasamovs face looks broken and he can’t handle the jab….

Posted November 2, 2013 10:41 pm 


Hey, That’s my Bike!!!

Mago needs a KO to win now. Perez has a good chin. Mago looks a little bewildered that his power isn’t working and has no Plan B.

Posted November 2, 2013 10:40 pm 


Tomato Can

I just noticed the GGG on the ropes, what that all about?

Posted November 2, 2013 10:38 pm 


Hey, That’s my Bike!!!

Perez looking comfy now. Pot shotting Mago with straight 1-2 combo’s at will.

Posted November 2, 2013 10:36 pm 


Tomato Can

This is a good heavyweight match, best I’ve seen in a long time.

Posted November 2, 2013 10:33 pm 


Hey, That’s my Bike!!!

Id probably have it 4-1 Perez although the fight is closer than the score if that makes sense. Both guys are breathing a little heavy now and it wouldn’t surprise me to see a KO in the 9th or 10th.

Posted November 2, 2013 10:32 pm 


hookoffthejab

looks like “doubt” has crept into magos head ..

Posted November 2, 2013 10:29 pm 


Hey, That’s my Bike!!!

This is quite an entertaining fight without being a crude brawl. I might be wrong about Mago condition he looks strong but when he seems to get on top Perez hits back with combo and accuracy.

Posted November 2, 2013 10:28 pm 


hookoffthejab

Mike chin checked mago good in the 1st ….

Posted November 2, 2013 10:26 pm 


hookoffthejab

the ranking system is way off Lucas Browne is ranked higher than these two , makes sense right ………………

Posted November 2, 2013 10:24 pm 


Hey, That’s my Bike!!!

Both these guys are landing some solid punches and both their chins are holding strong. I like Perez work so far. More accurate and slick.

Posted November 2, 2013 10:24 pm 


hookoffthejab

someone was having a hissy fit ……

Posted November 2, 2013 10:22 pm 


Hey, That’s my Bike!!!

First time Ive seen Perez and he looks quite skillful. He needs to watch the Mago looping left and should win this comfortably. I also doubt Mago conditioning.

Posted November 2, 2013 10:17 pm 



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