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Anonymous

Yeah viva Tumbos* bean farts…………

Posted November 8, 2013 4:11 am 


Anonymous

If you can smell bean far-t-s, it is Te Tumbo for sure

Posted November 7, 2013 9:30 pm 


Anonymous

i hope there are no peds involved. LOL.

Posted November 7, 2013 3:53 pm 


Anonymous

Is anonymous,te tumbo!!!!!!

Posted November 7, 2013 3:46 pm 


Anonymous

Yeah , anonymous says Viva

Posted November 7, 2013 3:44 pm 


Anonymous

Yeah Viva,viva, viva

Posted November 7, 2013 3:42 pm 


Anonymous

Viva Tumbo and Marquez!!

Posted November 7, 2013 2:50 pm 


Rich

El Turdo*…..If you have to resort to schoolboy name calling and vulgar insults…you are a loser in every way,..with an obsessive-compulsive personality disorder which manifests itself in a downward spiral….in short one big f*****ng joke………..

Posted November 7, 2013 12:08 pm 


Hidalgo

“Waive,” not “wave.”

Posted November 7, 2013 11:26 am 


Hidalgo

Or did the fighters and the WBA agree to wave that rule for their first fight?

Posted November 7, 2013 11:26 am 


Hidalgo

Just some thoughts and questions:

Current WBA rules state that if a fighter knocks down his opponent three times in one round, it constitutes an “Automatic Knockout.”

In their first fight in May 2008, Pacquiao knocked Marquez down three times in the first round, yet no knockout was called.

Have the WBA rules regarding knockouts changed since Pacquiao/Marquez I?

Because if they haven’t, Pac should have won their first fight by KO.

Posted November 7, 2013 11:25 am 


Me

Tumbo has called out double life poster? Ha, that a laugh. Look at his postS after mentioning pacquero * name he add a Asterisk all the time just like mike Wallace articles
After parquero * allway, I surprised nobody notice this. I lay money he vivek.

Posted November 7, 2013 12:56 am 


Anonymous

Then his wife

Posted November 6, 2013 10:57 pm 


Anonymous

No, Rich is the guy who buggered Tumbo’s mother

Posted November 6, 2013 10:54 pm 


Anoymous

Is Rich Ted Sares?? I remember Tumbo calling him out until he quit Esb. But Tumbo’s called a lot of guys out. HA!

Posted November 6, 2013 9:42 pm 


Anonymous

MANNY IS GREAT HECDOG

Posted November 6, 2013 6:52 pm 


Anonymous

Tumbo is protected by the moderators of ESB

Posted November 6, 2013 6:51 pm 


MR Bean From the UK

Someone is inside Scumbo’s head. hahahahahaha

Posted November 6, 2013 6:42 pm 


Hecdog

Peace Talk, thank you my friend. Manny Pacquiao is a human being to be admired.

Posted November 6, 2013 6:08 pm 


te tumbo

maybe Whitey Bulgeless can compare “IPs” and run and tattle to the moderators . . . Again . . . (Viva Marquez!).

Posted November 6, 2013 5:49 pm 


te tumbo

Gracias!

Posted November 6, 2013 5:45 pm 


Anonymous

Viva Tumbo

Posted November 6, 2013 5:43 pm 


Anonymous

Tumbo is sickening and should be banned in the name of the mother of St. Ann

Posted November 6, 2013 5:41 pm 


te tumbo

“All the Smelly Urine in Tijuana wasn’t enough to help MarPeds beat Bradley..” and there was apparently not enough man-jizz in PR to boost Cruz over the threshold to avoid being Stalked and Socked and Punched to his knees. Enema sucked it all up?!

Posted November 6, 2013 5:16 pm 


te tumbo

correction: BICH . . .

Posted November 6, 2013 4:52 pm 


te tumbo

RICH, go F***K yourself you FAT overgrown tattletale and Viva Marquez!

Posted November 6, 2013 4:41 pm 


Peace Talk

@HecDog, Very, very, very well said about Manny Pacquiao as a gifted human being. Nothing, I mean nothing, bad about this great man that people can talk about him; only haters (Floydiots) and those who(Floyd) can’t fight him inside the ring make up FAKE statements and stories about this man.

In addition, Pacquiao is the most popular athlete in the world, the true global icon. He is the most searched man on Youtube, Yahoo and Google engines. He is an amazing man.

Posted November 6, 2013 4:19 pm 


Peace Talk

Manny Pacquiao, the only boxer who has captured 10 world titles in 8 division, will go for his 11th world title against Brandon Rios. After he beats Rios, he will go and get his stolen title from Bradley to capture his 12th world titles, which is unheard off.

PAC is truly has something supernatural.

Posted November 6, 2013 4:08 pm 


Ricky The Dragon Steambolt

Brandon Rios’s strategy is to put a ton of pressure on Manny Pacquiao to make Pacquiao brawl against him. I see that Manny Pacquiao will keep banging left and right, back and forth, in and out while Rios is chasing him until Rios is dropped and can’t chase anymore.

I don’t discredit Rios, but Rios too slow for Pacquioa and he is not the same class as PAC.

Posted November 6, 2013 4:00 pm 


Ricky The Dragon Steambolt

Congressman Manny “The PacMan” Pacquiao will show to the world on November 23rd WHY Floyd Mayweather has been DUCKING and DODGING him for over 5 years. If Manny Pacquioa brutally beats the hell out of Rios, as expected, Mayweather will keep following his best strategy as usual, and that is DUCKING.

Posted November 6, 2013 3:55 pm 


JoeKidd

Find another promoter. What if he looks good in losing? Bradley won. Why can’t Rios? Arum behaves as if Pacquiao is just another fighter in the stable. Ariza is gone. This old fart should be next.

Posted November 6, 2013 3:14 pm 


TJ

OLD COOT

“FACT: Floyd is the only admitted steroid user between the two. Injections to his brittle pillow-mitts.”

I was reading in BOXING MONTHLY this week how JOE CALZAGHE has spent the last 20 years having injections in his brittle hands before he could go out and fight.

I too have really bad hands, and have tried all sorts to sort them out and to cushion them, wearing the biggest 18 oz gloves, with the most padding I can get to wrap my hands… It is depressing having hand trouble. I think it’s possibly the worst injury a boxer can have, because it plays on the mind. Even an innocuous soft punch landed on the wrong side of the target brings back that shooting pain. In my case it’s extended to ligaments in my fingers also, and affects the way you fight!!!!

I personally see nothing wrong with having injections in your hands to fight…. Without them it is the end of your career.

MALIGNAGGI had several operations on his hand, Tommy Hearns broke his many times and 2008, Sunderland Olympian TONY (forget his name), retired after about 8 or 9 fights because of hand troubles.

It aint no joke and once you get them, you will probably have hand trouble throughout your career!

Posted November 6, 2013 3:10 pm 


Public Enemy

All the Smelly Urine in Tijuana wasn’t enough to help MarPeds beat Bradley.. everyone knows the guys a cheat, it’s just a matter of time until he gets busted like MargaCheato..

Posted November 6, 2013 1:14 pm 


Rich

Tumbo,Nappyboy……Why don’t you both go and celebrate Viva Marquez with one of his favourite drinks specially squeezed out just for you two …salud…

Posted November 6, 2013 12:43 pm 


Anonymous

why are they holding the drug test in sammy wongs resteraunt.

Posted November 6, 2013 11:38 am 


te tumbo

BICH, Viva Marquez!

Posted November 6, 2013 10:27 am 


Happyboy

Go look it up yourself.

Posted November 6, 2013 6:38 am 


Rich

Nappyboy…..You seem to have a prevalence for the catch-weights that Manny has had ……So in your crude and deluded boxing knowledge how many has he had, compared to Bunny…..Also do you know how many Mexican fighters he has demolished….If you don’t…ask Tumbo….

Posted November 6, 2013 4:17 am 


Happyboy

Ignorance is bliss until the Dinamita’s right hand. LOL

Posted November 6, 2013 3:12 am 


Havoc

Happy boy- what ever your excuse to all Manny’s previous fights is… It was all exciting and entertaining fights! That is all that matters…entertaining! Compared to Floyd the sweet science aka boring style of fights who only entertains the old generations.

Posted November 6, 2013 3:02 am 


Happyboy

Oh I forgor Margacheato who was also comimg from a loss. All facts Pactards.

Posted November 6, 2013 2:11 am 


Happyboy

Havoc – 1. Morales coming off a loss, 2. Cotto weight drained and coming off a loss, 3. ODH weight drained and coming off a gift decision, 4. Mosley old and coming off a loss,5. Bradley featherfisted, moving up a division & a win against an old worn out Casamayor, 6. Marquez older and lost to Floyd, 7. Rios coming off a loss and a gift decision vs Abril. ALL FACTS!

Posted November 6, 2013 1:59 am 


Happyboy

Havoc – if Floyd is a cherrypicker what does that make Manny. Wtf do you think Rios is a threat?

Posted November 6, 2013 1:51 am 


Happyboy

So which better way to raise Manny’s profile than to feed him yet another face first plodder coming off a loss. I agree with te tumbo Manny is Bobby’s best scam as a promoter.

Posted November 6, 2013 1:46 am 


Havoc

Arum is right…if Pacman loses he is done. Pacman will win and will be done if this fight goes the distant. I’m pretty sure Mayweather will be observing if Pacman will get shook up or soften up for him to finally ready to get cherry pick!

Posted November 6, 2013 1:43 am 


te tumbo

esposasputas . net

Posted November 6, 2013 1:15 am 


ha

JMM KTFO6 of Manny is greater than any Manny knockout. That’s FACT. Is Manny awake yet?

Posted November 6, 2013 12:20 am 


te tumbo

OLD COOT, when i saw what Martinez did to Williams, i imagined Marquez doing the same to Pacquiao*, but his actual KO of Pacquiao* was worse than anything i had ever imagined. “BOOM!” and that bolt sent Manny* diving Face-First into Oz suddenly trying to find his way back to General Santos City. Hatton was a solid KO but whoever was relying on Hatton’s chin to defeat Pacquiao* was delusional, i.e., a KO loss for Hatton was not only likely but predictable. NOody was happier than me after watching Tarver and Johnson KO Junior but as memorable as those KOs were, they also marked the decline of the once untouchable Roy Jones Jr. All of You insist that Pacquiao* is still in his prime. no comparison. besides, Pacquiao* was KTFO by a 39-year-old Marquez fighting beyond his prime and two divisions beyond his optimal fighting weight after Eight (8) F’n years of pursuing and being avoided by his arch-rival Pacquiao*. for this, Marquez is awarded the #1 KO in Boxing History . . . BowDownMfrs.

Posted November 5, 2013 11:58 pm 


Ray Ray

Old coot- fair enough…..agree 2 disagree there. Mannys movement is done after 4rounds, way less reach, gets hit alot.Floyds calculated….the more punches Manny throws the more mistakes hes makes….itd b good if we all get 2 c this happen but iv got my doubts

Posted November 5, 2013 11:45 pm 


te tumbo

HECDOG, like i said, you’re welcome to him . . . Peace.

Posted November 5, 2013 11:34 pm 


te tumbo

the closest Manny* ever came to defeating Marquez was the second bout for which the KD was difference in Pacquiao’s* favor. otherwise, nobody can identify the 5 rounds Pacquiao* won in their first bout and the third bout was a pathetic travesty. fortunately, all doubt was removed by the “desired result” of IV. Marquez is Greater.

Posted November 5, 2013 11:33 pm 


Hecdog

Te Tumbo my friend, Manny really does a good job helping people through his congressional position. He gives time and money and fights for good causes.

Posted November 5, 2013 11:28 pm 


te tumbo

i’ve posted that i think Pacquiao* is a great action fighter, but he’s also the same reckless, single-fisted, one-dimensional, puncher that he’s always been. Marquez CounteD on it, which is why these recollections of him being dominated by Pacquiao* are suspect. FACT Is that Pacquiao* was only ahead by one point going into the 6th and if he had only been decked instead of FLATTENED in that round the fight would’ve been even going into the 7th with momentum in Marquez’s favor. moreover, Marquez was landing his power-right with regularity in that bout. Pacquiao* narrowly avoided being dropped or worse at the end of the 3rd and during the final 4th-round flurry. this was no dominating performance by Manny*. it was a fiercely-contested bout during which Marquez never ceased to pose a lethal threat, but why am i telling you this for? just take a look at the cover pix if you don’t believe me. Caption: #1 KO in Boxing History. Rivalry-ending. International audience. the 4th and Final bout to “answer all questions and remove all doubts”. Viva Marquez!

Posted November 5, 2013 11:27 pm 


Hecdog

Most people don’t realize just how difficult Manny Pacquiao is to fight. Marquez, De La Hoya, Barrera, Margarito, Cotto and others all had plans to beat Manny. They see this small guy that can’t be all that, and none of them could deal with Manny’s orthodox southpaw style. He has excellent feints that throws off his opponents timing. Manny then uses superior speed to take advantage of the opening and he overwhelms them with fast combinations. Marquez had fits in their first fight, which IMO was a robbery. Manny won that fight hands down. Marquez was befuddled and didn’t know how to fight him. Floyd Mayweather would actually be an easier fight stylistically because his fight plan is to counter. Manny’s style will have Floyd off balance and guessing as to when to throw. Marquez said during an interview tht Manny Pacquiao is faster and hits harder than Floyd. This from a man that fought both. Manny has energy. He doesn’t fade, and as motivated as he would be for a Mayweather fight, Mannny would be a smart ferocious hurricane. If Manny wanted to turn the tables on Floyd and choose to move and box, Floyd would have trouble. Judah beat Floyd up for 5-6 rounds and then ran out of gas as usual. Manny is twice the fighter that Judah is. Manny will defeat Floyd Mayweather if and when they fight. Floyd made a good choice by making excuse and running from Manny Pacquiao for years. If he finds the courage to fight Manny now, he’s going to be in for a surprise. Manny is the best.

Posted November 5, 2013 11:25 pm 


te tumbo

HECDOG, i concede that your reverent devotion to St. Pacquiao* is at-least as authentic as my resentment of this promotional hype-job. you may proceed along your pious way.

Posted November 5, 2013 11:18 pm 


Old Coot

Ray Ray… I think I know, that FLOYD knows Manny will be hard to keep off his ass in the ring! Because I just don’t think Floyd throws enough nor hits hard enough to keep Manny off him. Indeed the fact that Floyd only averages 40 or 50 punches per round means, Manny’s improved head and upper body movement we saw neutralize most of Marquez’ counter-punching in their last fight, would neutralize a good bit of Floyd’s too. I think Manny would go after Floyd, throwing like wildfire at every bit of daylight he sees… So even if Floyd reduces Manny’s output from 70- 100 punches per round, down to like 60, Manny would still land at least 20 to 25 total, per round… While I think that with manny’s much improved head movement and agility, against Floyd’s low punch output… Floyd would only land like 17 or so punches per round. So I think we’d see a split decision for Manny.

Posted November 5, 2013 10:56 pm 


Ray Ray

Old coot- u think or u no? Either way both guys r very gd. I like Manny as a person more than Floyd…..that means nothing when both r in the ring, just dont think manny would touch him there. Iv got my doubts thats the only reason he fights in vagas…..vagss is the big show these days, big show big cash….so hes never returned a positive test 4 anything illigal? Not really a drug cheat thsn is he?

Posted November 5, 2013 10:42 pm 


Old Coot

@ Tomato Can: Agreed. Probably due to training injury.

Posted November 5, 2013 10:31 pm 


Tomato Can

That would be a dumb move for the fighter, but it would keep the networks, promoters, and fans happy.

Posted November 5, 2013 10:28 pm 


Tomato Can

Perhaps, but the likely reason anyone would do that is so they could through with a fight after sustaining a hand injury in training..

Posted November 5, 2013 10:21 pm 


Old Coot

I rather be the fan of a gambler and Cheater (Manny) than a gambler, cheater and gal Beater, (Voyd), any day!!

Posted November 5, 2013 10:14 pm 


Old Coot

Tomato Can: I think that is how Floyd hurt his hands before… Because he was using Zlylocaine once he move up to WW to help his power.

Posted November 5, 2013 10:12 pm 


Tomato Can

If xylocain was letting Mayweather punch harder he would be knocking more fighters out, and/or his career would have been over by now due to bad hand injuries caused by covering up the pain while in fights. Xylocain is a bad idea for anyone.

Posted November 5, 2013 9:43 pm 


Tomato Can

Also sure Mayweather is a lot better than old coot gives him credit for.

Posted November 5, 2013 9:39 pm 


Old Coot

@ Ray Ray: Mayweather admitted to Xylocaine hand injections. Not a roid, but it allows him to swing harder, pain-free than he naturally can. That’s why Floyd ONLY fights in Vegas. Cuz other states forbid it.

Posted November 5, 2013 9:36 pm 


Tomato Can

I’m sure Manny is a less than perfect, but still good guy. As far as his overall greatness it more than likely falls somewhere between Hecdog’s and Te tumbos opinions.

Posted November 5, 2013 9:33 pm 


Ray Ray

Old coot- where did u pull Mayweather using from? Fact, Mayweather undefeated, more world title fights, more champs faced, earned way more coin, way bigger PPV numbers, more time spent at no.1pnd 4 pnd and in the top ten over there careers……u dont have 2 like it, but there the facts. Just simmer down.

Posted November 5, 2013 9:24 pm 


PEEJ

I am not claiming Floyd or anybody else has a certain amount of class. Problem is yall think I don’t like Manny. I like Manny, I enjoy watching him fight. When he was knocking guys out he was beastin folks. I never claimed he was on anything. But I maintain he can’t beat Floyd and Arum and company declined the drug test for the same reason yall call Floyd a coward for asking for a drug test, the same drug test Manny is willing to take now along with so many other boxers.

Posted November 5, 2013 9:19 pm 


Adrian

muchacho

Pacman is savage in the ring than Floyd.
Oscar- turned ballerina, Hatton- gone in depression and want to kill himself, Margarito- broken orbital bone, Cotto- become a runner (back to slugger after he fought Floyd) Diaz and Clottey- banished. Mosley- Bella Gonzales left him, Bradley- humiliation. Marquez- finally got his revenge after 4 try, want to bring the k.o. win to his grave.

Posted November 5, 2013 5:03 pm

Love it! Lmao!

Posted November 5, 2013 9:18 pm 


Old Coot

PEEJ: Manny is a good man… Not perfect… But a good man… There are celebrities like Floyd who cheat on and beat his exes.

Posted November 5, 2013 9:16 pm 


PEEJ

To say Floyd fans live in a bubble is ridiculous. Yall say that because they don’t agree with yall about what yall think about Floyd. Floyd fans can say the same thing. I can break apart Pacs record very easily. Not hard at all.

Posted November 5, 2013 9:12 pm 


PEEJ

Sorry Old Coot but when you claim someone has class but yet cheats on his wife has kids out of wedlock and then doesn’t take care of them, I mean really, that is class to you? Now I don’t know if he takes care of them but there was one lady that came out and said that like 2 years ago. Doesn’t sound like class to me. And no I am not a republican. I could care less about politics. Heck I don’t even vote.

Posted November 5, 2013 9:10 pm 


Hecdog

Manny Pacquiao, the Iconic Boxing legend and the defender of the poor and helpless has accomplished more important things in life than any other fighter past or present. For THOSE of you that only follow his boxing feats, you must also know that Manny is also a highly respected and honored congressman. Manny Pacquiao has set an example of how to use his finances and influence to help people. On February 13, 2013, President Benigo Aquino III signed into law a strong Anti Human Trafficking Law championed for the last 2 years by none other than Manny Pacquiao. Manny is a true Ambassador for the sport of boxing and for humanity in general. The Documentary “The Fighters” will walk you through the story. TE TUMBO, please see and give this Icon his just due. Manny Pacquiao is a decent humble human being that cares for all people. He invests his time and money to do more important things in life than just box. Mayweather may be a good boxer, but no one, and I mean no one can sit along side Manny Pacquiao when it comes to using his fame and fortune to help those that don’t have a voice to be heard. Manny becomes their voice and fights harder for them than he does for himself in the ring. The political ring dwarfs the boxing ring, and Manny is the under dog, but he does what no one thinks he can do. He wins for those that can’t defend themselves. He becomes their father, mother and brother and never stops until something good happens for them all. Yes, Manny Pacquiao is special vessel of God. A man that cares more about the helpless than himself. Thank You Manny Pacquiao for doing the work of God.

Posted November 5, 2013 9:07 pm 


Old Coot

@ tumbo
Let’s Re-Review:

 Myth… We’ve all heard Team Pacquiao’s* pre-fight hype before…
FACT: For the last Marquez fight, Manny worked on his defense and was beating Marquez up more than in the first 3 fights!

 Myth… Manny WAS a notorious gambler, drinker, and womanizer…
FACT: Old news… WAS is the operative term there and NO longer relevant.

 Myth… Manny’s the only pro-boxer in history to reject improved, random, and MUTUALLY-Applied testing, Twice…
FACT: Manny has never rejected NOR FAILED current testing standards… Manny ONLY rightfully rejected Chicken Fraud’s fear induced smokescreen of bush league demands…

FACT: Floyd is the only admitted steroid user between the two. Injections to his brittle pillow-mitts.

 Myth… Manny was victimized by the most BRUTAL KO DEMOLITION in Boxing History…
FACT: NOT EVEN CLOSE… Paul Williams and Ricky Hatton dropped just as hard… And Manny is not wanting to kill himself over the Marquez KO!! Plus, Roy Jones Junior was out-cold twice, and once for nearly 15 minutes against Glenn Johnson.

 Myth: Manny avoided his primary P4P rivals, cherrypicked, catchweight- and otherwise compromised opponents to compete on playing-fields blatantly tilted in his favor….
FACT: Floyd cherry-picked everyone since moving to WW! Made Canelo fight a catchweight after accusing Pac of it… Floyd also Ducked Mosley for half a decade… Fake retired to avoid prime unbeaten champion versions of Cotto, Margarito, and Williams and to duck rematches with Hatton and Oscar. Fake retired AGAIN after Mosley to duck Pacquiao AGAIN…. STILL DUCKING PACQUIAO NOW!!!

FACT: Floyd’s fanbase consists of phony, ass-licking boxing-Ignoramuses whose nonsensical obsessive devotion, diminishes Floyd’s everything! As does Floyd himself, by doing crap like sucker-punch KOing an unarmed opponent.

FACT: I’m immune to Floyd’s diva/Prima-Donna self delude GOAT wannabe appeal because ’m a fight-fan not a fanboy Te-DUMBO!

YOU CAN’T Refute any of that… So don’t even try!!

Posted November 5, 2013 9:03 pm 


te tumbo

what i do find interesting and somewhat thought-provoking is that the moment Pacquiao* assumed the role of “witness” and began to testify on behalf of his faith, his pro-career began to deteriorate on every level. from running out of vulnerable Name opponents; to being unable to convincingly defeat the next level of prime opponents; to being DEMOLISHED by a 39-year-old Marquez; there’s something almost Job-like about Pacquiao’s* current situation(?) . . . that is all.

Posted November 5, 2013 8:23 pm 


te tumbo

“Manny needs to forget Karoken, Jinkee, the Bible and Politics”. IMO, Pacquiao* has done all of the above. i see no evidence that any of these other interests or hobbies have interrupted his primary source of income. otherwise, could somebody PLEEEASE direct me to the single pice of legislation that Manny* has drafted and/or championed? Juse ONE?

Posted November 5, 2013 8:11 pm 


te tumbo

Let’s Review:

 We’ve all heard Team Pacquiao’s* pre-fight hype before.
 Manny was (is?) a notorious gambler, drinker, and womanizer.
 He’s the only pro-boxer in history to reject improved, random, and MUTUALLY-Applied testing, Twice.
 He was victimized by the most BRUTAL KO DEMOLITION in Boxing History.
 He avoided his primary P4P rivals, cherrypicked, catchweight- and otherwise compromised opponents to compete on playing-fields blatantly tilted in his favor.
 His fanbase consists of shameless boxing-ignorant Morons whose nonsensical devotion diminishes Pacquiao’s* ring-profile.
 i’m immune to Pacquiao’s* celebrity appeal because ’m a fight-fan not a fanboy.

All facts, all day long. Refute any one, when you actually can. otherwise, St. Pacquiao* himself would encourage you to bow down to the Truth.

Posted November 5, 2013 8:08 pm 


SREDMOND

Pacquiao CANNOT lose to Rios or it is indeed the END of “Pac Man” that would be 3 losses in a row even though like MOST I consider him robbed via Bradley… Losing to a punching bag coming up from 140 would mean hes not a credible threat to solid 147 pounders… Manny needs to forget Karoken, Jinkee, the Bible and Politics, his future in boxing depends on beating Brandon Rios down something AWFUL…

Posted November 5, 2013 8:07 pm 


Old Coot

@Hecdog and Rem: Correction… It seems in the fight-world Pac jealousy is more the root of all haters, than even Money itself… Hell, just look at “Money” HIMSELF, he and his Hater Nation of Floydiacs and Floydiots!! LOL!!

Posted November 5, 2013 8:04 pm 


Old Coot

@Hecdog and Rem: Thanks… And same to ya’ll… It seems in the fight world Pac jealousy is more the root of all hater, even more than Money… Hell, just look at “Money” himself… And his Hater Nation of Floydiots and Floydidacs!! LOL!!

Posted November 5, 2013 8:01 pm 


Old Coot

Tumbo… That was before the 3rd Marquez Fight… Like I said, old news… Find something current.

Posted November 5, 2013 7:57 pm 


REM

Old Coot ROTF.. Dead on Pac haters live in a bubble with the far right wackos completely void of facts.

Posted November 5, 2013 7:56 pm 


Hecdog

OLD COOT my friend, excellent post. I’ll never understand why so many people continually hate on Manny Pacquiao. This is a man that is humble and sincere in all he does. He accepts things, blames no one and keeps his head high. This man is worthy of respect and honor. He is a role model to humanity. He admits his wrongs, corrects them and lives a life to be modeled after. Give this man his props people. He happens to be the best boxer of his era, and probably the best of all time. He gives his all every single time. It’s time for jealousy, envy and hate to be put aside and salute Manny Pacquiao. Manny is somone we all would love for our children to be like. Let’s appreciate him while he is still fighting. There will never be another one like him.

Posted November 5, 2013 7:55 pm 


te tumbo

“Give it a rest dude… Or whatever…” but you caN’T Refute or Deny It. i rest my case . . . NEXT?

Posted November 5, 2013 7:54 pm 


te tumbo

COOT, what you can’t do is dispute the facts. only respond with juvenile and inherently insecure insults, which is the profile of your average Pacquiao* disciple . . . or a butt-hurt putoriqueno whose had to witness and endure the recent annihilation of putoriqueno boxing by Mexican ring-warriors . . . “Cannn-Tahhh y no Llores”.

Posted November 5, 2013 7:53 pm 


Old Coot

Tumbo: Give it a rest dude… Or whatever… Your delusional opinions are as real as Obama haters’.

Posted November 5, 2013 7:53 pm 


te tumbo

“When you have nothing newly relevant to smack at, just bring up old, moldy and irrelevant dirt from dug up from some cave from the 13th century” but you don’t deny it, correct? moreover, try 2011-2012 because THAT’s when Manny* was videotaped taking off in his sports car with his arm candy by his side and it wasn’t Jinkee. Manny* then tries to compensate for his mortal sins by assuming the role of dedicated witness and emerging prophet, i.e., bible-thumping holy-roller. the best part of his conversion was the grimacing faces of his former entourage and new congregation who were filmed having to endure on of his mandatory bible study classes presided over by none other than St. Manny* himself . . .(lol) . . . (oh brother).

Posted November 5, 2013 7:50 pm 


Old Coot

Pac haters are almost as desperate and pathetic as Obama haters!! LOL!!!

Posted November 5, 2013 7:42 pm 


Old Coot

tumbo: Yeah… But only in your wettest dreams.

Posted November 5, 2013 7:41 pm 


te tumbo

Btw, Pacquiao’s* delusional Manny*-worshipping fanbase isn’t doing him any favors either. form elevating him to sainthood (despite his notorious gambling, drinking, drugging, and womanizing) to defending his right to become the ONLY fighter in boxing history to reject random and MUTUALLY-Applied anti-doping procedures, to then turning around and accusing Manny’s* conqueror of “cheating” despite testing along with Pacquiao* and publicly challenging Pacquiao* to improved and MUTUALLY-Applied testing, they are shameless boxing-ignorant Morons whose nonsensical devotion only diminishes whatever integrity Pacquiao* does have.

Posted November 5, 2013 7:39 pm 


Old Coot

@ Peej: HAAH!! Are you serious? And are you a Republican? You must be, because you just used one of their favorite pitiful tactics… When you have nothing newly relevant to smack at, just bring up old, moldy and irrelevant dirt from dug up from some cave from the 13th century! LOL!!

Posted November 5, 2013 7:39 pm 


PEEJ

Is Pac the same class act that cheated on his wife and had kids out of wedlock?

Posted November 5, 2013 7:33 pm 


te tumbo

COOT, Pacquiao’s* matchmaking profile is the precise opposite of a ring-warrior like Abner Mares. Get It? there isn’t a serious fight-fan that doesn’t resent a hype-job like that representing our favorite sport. unlike delusional and Pactarded* Pacmaniacs, i’m immunie to Pacquiao’s* celebrity appeal. i’m a fight-fan not a fanboy.

Posted November 5, 2013 7:32 pm 


te tumbo

what true fight-fans despise about Pacquiao* is the promotional clout that enabled him to avoid, cherrypick, catchweight- and otherwise compromise opponents to compete on playing-fields blatantly tilted in Manny’s* favor. Pacquiao* has been the most corrupting influence in Boxing for the past 10 years. he’s choreographed his “greatness” by avoiding the best competition and targeting presumably vulnerable fighters coming off of dissapointing losses NOT impressive wins. Btw, speaking of “lucky punches”, look closely at Pacquiao’s* eyes when he KO’d Hatton . . . they’re closed. now THAT’s luck.

Posted November 5, 2013 7:29 pm 


Old Coot

Speaking of the Pac-haters… I’m glaring at you Te Tumbo!

Posted November 5, 2013 7:28 pm 


te tumbo

“He’s not smiling as much, and rumors have it that Manny is destroying the tough sparring partners in camp” blah-blah-blah-blah-Blahhh. we’ve heard all of this pre-fight hype before. in fact, before the bout to “answer all questions and remove all doubt”, Team Pacquiao* ran out of superlatives to describe Manny’s* condition following the “very best training camp ever”. it still didn’t enable him to convincingly defeat Marquez in their third bout nor did it prevent Pacquiao* from being victimized by the most BRUTAL KO DEMOLITION in Boxing History. Pacquiao* has little to smile about these days. he’s coming off of two losses including without the benefit Ariza’s mystery shakes and is now slotted to face the biggest strongest “Bam-Bam” ever who is still in his prime. Damn-Straight Pacquiao’s* taking this bout very serious.

Posted November 5, 2013 7:24 pm 


Old Coot

@ Hecdog: Yep.. What Manny’s haters, -Floyd and his Floydiacs in particular hate the most is that Manny is a quiet warrior/killer who’s a class-act to boot… He goes out of his way for the poor in the PI, Is by all accounts a great father, and now increasingly a great husband too.

When in public, he always has time for his fans, even to a fault!! He trains like a focused beast when motivated… He never talks down to his opponents… Not even Floyd… Then on fight night, Manny shuffles to his potential death, smiling and waving to fans, and once there, he chooses and even loves to fight in a way that give his fans ALL their money’s worth, even if he gets killed!!

And when he rarely does lose… EVEN, when he’s blatantly cheated… Does Manny cry or whine? NO… He simply says… “I respect the judges decision” and when both cheated and KO’d his smiling response was- “It’s a part of the game.”

If only ALL celebrities were such class acts huh?

Posted November 5, 2013 7:19 pm 


Hecdog

Nothing will help Brandon Rios gentlemen. As much as many of you would like to see Manny Pacquiao lose, it’s not going to happen. Forget worthless Ariza and the weight training. Forget all the insight Ariza is giving Rios. When they meet in the ring, Rios will get to know up close why Manny Pacquiao is considered by many the greatest prize fighter of all time. Manny Pacquiao has been taking a beating in the media and by the fans that never liked him. His face firt picture has been posted everywhere without taking Manny’s family and friends into account. Mayweather & Marquez have enjoyed their laughs. Now Manny will come into the ring with revenge and a spectacular come back for the world to see. He’s not smiling as much, and rumors have it that Manny is destroying the tough sparring partners in camp. This is a quite killer. He the quiet assassin. Brandon Rios and hi camp have no idea what will be coming their way. Manny Pacquiao is coming back for redemption. He will redeem his fans, family and himself by putting on a classic and brutalizing performance. Mayweather fans will run for their lives once the fight is over. The beating will begin in round one and will end before round 9. Please keep the women and children away from the tv. This will be a painful thing to see. Manny is back!

Posted November 5, 2013 7:06 pm 


Old Coot

@Anonymous: Mark my words Floyd won’t agree unless Tripz-G will bow to him and come down to 152lbs. Floyd can’t abide not telling himself he is the king, by not dictating all the terms of every fight. His fragile ego is that monstrous!

Posted November 5, 2013 7:05 pm 


te tumbo

“. . . the speed difference between Margarito and Pacquiao was quite large”, which is expected considering the comparison is between a quick and darting featherweight and a plodding welterweight. it’s been a main ingredient to Pacquiao’s* success at welter. conversely, it’s never been a dominant factor in Pacquiao’s* bouts v. Marquez whose accustomed to dealing with featherweight hand and foot speed.

Posted November 5, 2013 7:03 pm 


Old Coot

Boxtradamus: Thanks… Finally… And you’ll be surprised to find I actually agree with most of that! Rios has the chin to maintain a puncher’s shot for a long series of rounds… But not much of one. MP by UD, or ref TKO from accumulated damage.

Posted November 5, 2013 7:02 pm 


Anonymous

Golovkin willing to drop to 154 for Mayweather

Posted November 5, 2013 7:01 pm 


Boxtradamus

Pac excels vs. guys that come forward into the BUZZSAW or just stand there and try to cover UP like Clottey praying that he doesn’t get chopped UP……. He has problems with guys WHO choose to Fight at a distance like Bradley and Mosley DID. His fearsome Offense was mostly nullified….Mosley and Bradley were able to survive and NOT get destroyed and IF you add that with Floyd’s Offensive and Defensive SKILLS you won’t only be able to survive you’ll be able to WIN…..unfortunately Rios doesn’t present that. He DOES however have a chance to land ONE GOOD shot that can change the Fight. Pacquiao has a POOR defensive Trainer SO IF he gets hurt he won’t know how to clinch…..His lights MIGHT even go OUT because his punch resistance is SHATTERED. Can Rios land ONE GOOD shot???? I say he CAN unless Roach smartened UP and concentrated on teaching some Defense. IF not its Rios by HERO removing stoppage.

Posted November 5, 2013 6:55 pm 


Old Coot

Boxtradamus: Sigh… Dude, or whatever… Try talking like you are sane for once… Instead of in your usual cut and past form letter nonsense! We get it… Floyd is YOUR GOAT… Just not that of those who know better.

Posted November 5, 2013 6:46 pm 


Boxtradamus

..and SO was the SKILL level. But Floyd TRUMPED that WIN vs a NON RATED Jr MW with WINS vs. the #1 Jr MW not ONCE, not TWICE, but THREEEE times!!!!! That’s called the HAT trick.

Posted November 5, 2013 6:35 pm 


te tumbo

TOMATO CAN, i’m confident that Garcia has added a wrinkle to Rios’ fight-plan that will foil Team Pacquiao’s* certainty about the “plodding” fighter they’re preparing to face. whether it be timely clinching or ducking or a consistent jab, the addition of any one of these elements will be enough to bait/rattle/provoke Manny* into once again lapsing into his reckless and hard-charging and puching ways. advantage: the biggest strongest “Bam Bam” ever.

Posted November 5, 2013 6:35 pm 


Tomato Can

Yes, the speed difference between Margarito and Pacquiao was quite large.

Posted November 5, 2013 6:25 pm 


Old Coot

@ Tomato Can: Yep… That is true too… Manny was just too fast.

Posted November 5, 2013 6:24 pm 


Tomato Can

Yeah, Manny also hit Margarito with a 6 or 7 punch combination, without anything in return from Margo.

Posted November 5, 2013 6:20 pm 


Old Coot

Umm… Let me clarify that a bit- In his fight with Margocheato, in I think round 6, Manny uses his gloves, forearms and elbows to pick off like 5 or 6 of Margocheato’s hardest shots in a row!

Posted November 5, 2013 6:08 pm 


Tomato Can

Marquez jolted Manny’s brain stem with that punch. He practically knocked his chin into his neck.

Posted November 5, 2013 6:07 pm 


Old Coot

Thanks Hidalgo: Those who don’t notice how he picked off nearly half of Oscar’s and Cotto’s shots as well as in one stretch or I think round 6, like 5 or 6 of Margocheato’s shots in a row, are simply NOT paying attention. If Manny had Floyd’s attitude about getting hit, he clearly has more than enough skill to be a defensive master too.

Posted November 5, 2013 6:05 pm 


PEEJ

Well if Pac has defense he sure hasn’t shown it

Posted November 5, 2013 6:01 pm 


Hidalgo

“But the fact is Pac has no defense. ”

This is totally wrong.

Posted November 5, 2013 5:58 pm 


Old Coot

@ PEEJ: Ok… However I disagree that in that instance it was his usual disregard for defense… Manny had won round 6 handily because Manny had landed 18 of 39, Marquez had only landed 13 of 45 punches. So when Manny went in “for the kill”… He was using head movement and a big feint… It is just that Marquez being a muscle-memory trained counter-punching genius, reverted to his instinctual nature and training, and threw the perfect newly muscle-bound, overhand right, counter that caught Manny flush and KO’d him.

Posted November 5, 2013 5:54 pm 


te tumbo

citing Pacquiao’s* presumed but unfulfilled potential for skills he NEVER developed (e.g., a consistent jab) is pointless because it’s impossible to prove something that never happened. bottomline Pacquiao* lacks the poise, focus, and discipline of a truly ATG fighter like Marquez. it was easy when all of Pacquiao’s* opponents were handpicked and browbeaten into conceding every imaginable condition in Pacquiao’s* favor, but Marquez was able to disregard all of that. he simply remained focused on Manny’s* fundamental flaws in the mental and defensive departments to consistently land the powerpunch that he Knew Pacquiao* couldn’t or wouldn’t avoid. accordingly, he got “lucky” in the 3rd round, got “lucky” again in the fourth, and finally (albeit predictably because he DID predict it) scored the decisive bullseye in the 6th round. six rounds, three “lucky” rounds for Marquez? or the predictable outcome of a simple trap designed to exploit the reckless, one-dimensional, and predictable puncher that Pacquiao* has always been? the former is highly improbable while the latter is what Marquez frequently and publicly stated he was preparing for.

Posted November 5, 2013 5:52 pm 


Tomato Can

Arum will use up Pacquiao for all he’s worth, we can count on that. If Pac sustains more than a minimal amoumt of damage, win or lose, he should seriously think about hanging them up. I would hate to see him get injured permanantly. He’s got that type of style, that as soon as he starts slowing down, and his opponents can react to what he’s doing in the ring, he’s done.

Posted November 5, 2013 5:51 pm 


Thurmal Underwear

you guys kill me. Rios is garbage. dude has little to no skill at all. dude cannot box. pacquaio is going to destroy him, that’s why he’s fighting that 140 scrub. he lost to mike alvarado who is average at best! if pac loses he will truly be exposed as overrated, which he really is.

Posted November 5, 2013 5:51 pm 


Tomato Can

But Rios is exactly what Pac needs in the ring, a plodding type of fighter, that won’t give him faints, and angles. But if Rios can land punches on Pac to the body and head, watch out…

Posted November 5, 2013 5:48 pm 


Old Coot

I agree: Arum is a greedy old man who only allows in-house contests, and underpays even his star fighters because he is desperate to stay relevant and ahead of Don King (who also has been sued by some of his fighters)… Arum and King both need to retire. And in Manny case… He just needs to move on regardless… Truth be told he needed to, several years ago… But Manny is a native, proud Filipino… And they are fiercely respectful of their elders, and loyal to those they feel they owe. And to Manny’s mind Arum fits both categories and is like his grandpa… We can only hope Manny becomes a bit more Americanized and realizes Arum is no longer good for him.

Posted November 5, 2013 5:46 pm 


Tomato Can

Pacman’s starting to age a bit. He looks old compared to Rios.

Posted November 5, 2013 5:45 pm 


PEEJ

Ok Old Coot you say he could have better defense. I disagree. But like I said that so called disregard for getting hit got him KOd. I enjoy watching Pac fight but I enjoy the sweet science better.

Posted November 5, 2013 5:40 pm 


TJ

I actually came on here to say it would be in Pacman’s best interests to walk awAy from ARUM, win,lose or draw after RIOS.
He could earn big money vs Floyd, his old sparring partner Khan or silencing BRONER and many more who are not in the TOP RANK stable.

Arum is using him as his work horse and a change is as good as a rest and could re-invigorate him.

There are also potential matches with MAIDANA, SWIFT and MATTHYSSE to consider.

I doubt he really wants to go the DINAMITA or DESERT STORM routes once again, although he does have Hard as nails PROVODNIKOV waiting in the wings if he drops down!

Posted November 5, 2013 5:37 pm 


Old Coot

@ TJ: Yep.. I thought exactly that… This guy is a fool, when I heard Rios say that… I just hope wises up before he starts slurring his speech more than he already does. Not a lot yet, but you can tell he does a little.

Posted November 5, 2013 5:35 pm 


Old Coot

@ Peej: And I am saying that he only chooses to have less defense because like Cobb or LaMotta… He is not that concerned with getting hit… However, the marked improvement in making Marquez either not throw or miss a lot of his signature counters, with more head and upper body movement, shows he can indeed use defense if he so chooses to… And I hope he even improves that.

Posted November 5, 2013 5:33 pm 


TJ

OLD COOT if that is Bam Bam’s attitude, then he is a fool. The old timers did not know too much about the long term effects of getting punched repeatedly, but in this day and age even a village idiot knows that repeated blows to the head can do nothing but damage ones health.

Most people now try and find ways to balance this style of aggression with some elements of defence, but I said a while ago that there were a few fighters who were dead certs to get pugilistic dementia if they carried on fighting in the same vain and those guys were Bam Bam Rios, Amir Khan, Marco HUCK and Nathan Cleverly.

I watched Amir sparring before he fought Garcia and was reminded of an article I read where guys wanted to go to gyms to get fit and learn to box and were thrown in at the deep end with the top dog in the gym and thrashed within an inch of their lives.

If those were his regular sparring sessions, I thought Khan would be lucky to even remember his own name, once he retired!

Posted November 5, 2013 5:30 pm 


PEEJ

Ok, I am not denying who was great back in those days. But the fact is Pac has no defense. That is what I am saying.

Posted November 5, 2013 5:26 pm 


Old Coot

Peej: Pep was great defensively by default… Like Tyson or Ali… But he didn’t mind getting hit either! That is my point!

Posted November 5, 2013 5:21 pm 


Old Coot

TJ: Yes!! How could I forget the great Sand man!

Posted November 5, 2013 5:20 pm 


Old Coot

@ TJ: Yep… And it doesn’t help that Rios actually said in the recent HBO face-off with Manny and Max Kellerman, that taking punishment makes him feel strong, tough and alive… That is what guys like Lamotta, Freddie thought too And Rios is too stubbornly crazy-brave to see that attitude will ruin his quality of life later. Well, at least Manny is starting to try to avoid more punishment lately.

Posted November 5, 2013 5:19 pm 


TJ

SANCHEZ and not SANXHEZ …. I hate predictive text!

Posted November 5, 2013 5:19 pm 


TJ

PEEJ, WILLIE PEP was perhaps the most lauded of our great defensive fighters, but there was one man he could not keep off him and that was the great SANDY SADDLER, who I think had 100 plus KO’s in his career and stopped PEP twice. Apart from SALVADOR SANXHEZ, I rate Sandy in my top 3 Featherweights.

Can you imagine if he could have had a series with Barrera, Morales, Pac and Marquez?
Saddler was tall, could fight inside, could fight dirty and he could really punch!

Posted November 5, 2013 5:17 pm 


PEEJ

Are you? How can Pep be considered one of the greatest if not the greatest defensive fighter but yet not care? That is ridiculous. Pac has had the same movement. Did not change any. Sorry to burst your bubble. Marquez was just loading up on everything he threw. Floyd is not scared of Pac in anyways. All he had to do was do random testing the same random testing he is so willing to do now with Rios but yet he declined. Why was that? Why is he so willing to do it now? I guess he is no longer superstitious, or is no longer afraid of needles, oh wait it is because he no longer gets weak when they take his blood. lol.

Posted November 5, 2013 5:14 pm 


Anonymous

there all lucky to be fighting in a catchweight and peds era.

Posted November 5, 2013 5:12 pm 


TJ

Leave and not leVe

Posted November 5, 2013 5:10 pm 


Old Coot

Peej: Are you punch-drunk? I was not referring to defense… I was say that Manny is like Pep, Lamotta and Cobb etc., in that they DIDN’T care about defense that much! Taking punishment, just sorta came with the territory as far as they were concerned.

Posted November 5, 2013 5:09 pm 


TJ

PACMAN WILL BE MOTIVATED BY REVENGE, VS RIOS. Rios ridiculed ROACH’S Parkinson’s when he was in training camp with MARGARITO before he lost to PACMAN.

PAC has not forgotten and will look to deliver a long and sustained beat down on Bam Bam’s thick hide.

Sad thing is Bam Bam’s fight style is most likely to leVe him with those very same ailments that affect Freddy today!

Posted November 5, 2013 5:09 pm 


Old Coot

@ Muchacho: You nailed it bud!… Floyd STILL pisses his Huggies at the mere mention of the possibility of fighting The Pacman!! LOL!!

Posted November 5, 2013 5:05 pm 


muchacho

Pacman is savage in the ring than Floyd.
Oscar- turned ballerina, Hatton- gone in depression and want to kill himself, Margarito- broken orbital bone, Cotto- become a runner (back to slugger after he fought Floyd) Diaz and Clottey- banished. Mosley- Bella Gonzales left him, Bradley- humiliation. Marquez- finally got his revenge after 4 try, want to bring the k.o. win to his grave.

Posted November 5, 2013 5:03 pm 


Old Coot

@ Peej: Not true at all… I don’t know what you were watching but up until the perfect instinctual counter from Marquez KO’d him, Manny CLEARLY used MUCH more head movement, upper body movement, and feints than against any opponent before…

I mean just compare stats in the first six rounds of their last fight to the first six round of the first three fights, in which Marquez landed nearly equal to Pac in every category… However, in the fourth fight, Marquez threw less punches and landed half as much percentage wise as he had in the first 6 rounds of the first 3 fights, and in nearly every category too… While Pacquiao threw about the same but landed twice as much as Marquez.

Posted November 5, 2013 5:03 pm 


PEEJ

Pac has fought the same way for years, there was no improvement in the Marquez fight. He was getting hit with the same punch since the first Marquez fights.

Posted November 5, 2013 4:49 pm 


PEEJ

Willie Pep, the great defensive fighter? Come on now, you are just trying to throw names out there. You are starting to convince me that you don’t know what you are talking about. You do know Pep won round with out even throwing a punch right? I have seen some of Peps fights and he slipped and dodged like no other. So stop with that comparison.

Posted November 5, 2013 4:48 pm 


Old Coot

@ Peej: CORRECTION- Manny’s style is a throwback to the same warrior attitude which served the likes of WIllie Pep, Tex Cobb, Hagler, Joe Frazier, Jake Lamotta and even Ali too…

Posted November 5, 2013 4:41 pm 


Teepee

Or just talk stupid and have no facts just talk out the side of his neck pay him no mind

Posted November 5, 2013 4:41 pm 


Old Coot

@ Peej: Manny’s is a throwback to the same warrior attitude the served the likes of WIllie Pep, Tex Cobb, Hagler, Joe Frazier… Jake Lamotta, and even Ali too… Partly because like Manny, they felt their job was to put on a show, and partly because we didn’t understand the consequences of such a show… Just as the NFL is learning too… And I for one don’t want to see any more athletes pay later, if it could have been limited… So I was glad to see Manny use much better upper boddy and head movement in the last fight with Marquez, where Juan landed a lot less… It’s just too bad Manny got caught with the perfect counter KO. Still, I hope he uses that same steller defensive minded movement against Rios and all future opponents and stops taking so much warrior’s punishment.

Posted November 5, 2013 4:40 pm 


PEEJ

I don’t agree with that. You can have your opinion and I got mine. But since you say he wants to give people their moneys worth, while doing that it got him KOd. He will feel the affects of all that punishment later on in life. And once that happens he may be asking himself if it was all worth it.

Posted November 5, 2013 4:30 pm 


Old Coot

@ Public Enemy: Oh you mean like how Floyd beat an emaciated Alvarez?… And likely would demand Tripz-G come down to 152 as well?… And all after hypocritically berating Pacman over the same catch-weights? Sorta like you’re doing now? LOL!!!

Posted November 5, 2013 4:25 pm 


Old Coot

@ Public Enemy: Oh you mean like how Floyd beat an emaciated Alvarez… And likely would do the same to Tripz-G… And all after hypocritically berating Pacman over the same catch-weights? Sorta like you doing now? LOL!!!

Posted November 5, 2013 4:23 pm 


Old Coot

@ Peej: Who ever said Pac didn’t get hit a lot… I said he would get hit much less if he chose to… His reflexes are that superior… But he is a warrior, and MUCH more concerned with giving the fans a show and earning his paycheck, by attacking, than just PPV numbers and self-preservation… Rather unlike another so-called unbeaten boxer we all are familiar with.

Posted November 5, 2013 4:20 pm 


PEEJ

Oscar didn’t throw many punches and neither did Mosley. You better go watch the Cotto and Maragacheato fights again. As a matter of fact Margacheato took some of Pacs prime away from him. Notice he has not been the same since that fight. He took a bit of a pounding in that fight. Against Cotto he got his ear drum busted. Sorry but both Cotto and Margacheato pounded Pac good. Better go check those fights again.

Posted November 5, 2013 4:04 pm 


Public Enemy

Now Cotto and Paq are best Buds.. LOL go figure??

Posted November 5, 2013 3:55 pm 


Public Enemy

Paq beat a weight drained Cotto after his matches vs Mexicos finest MargaCheato and his Cement Wraps.. hardly a major achievement.. and Cotto did bang up Paquiao pretty nicely.. broke his ear drum..

Posted November 5, 2013 3:50 pm 


Old Coot

@ Peej: Oh and Pacman dodged MOST of Oscar’s punches too!

Posted November 5, 2013 3:49 pm 


Old Coot

@ Peej: Yes… Yes Pac can be great defensively… He has ALL the tools and more to do so… He just doesn’t care to…. But he has demonstrated he can be a defensive great… Just look at his Cotto, Mosley and Margarito fights… He picked off or outright dodged half their punches similar to how Floyd does… And if Manny DID mind getting hit (ya know, like boring ass Floyd?) He could be a MASTER defensive fighter… But he is a warrior, so he doesn’t mind.

Posted November 5, 2013 3:46 pm 


PEEJ

So what if he said he is worried about his health? If you are using something to enhance your performance I would be worried too. Since Pac refused to take random testing Floyd felt like he was on something. And Floyd isn’t the only boxer, there are many fighters out there that felt the same way. Unfortunately none where in negotiations with Pac. And once again if Floyd was so scared of Pac then why didn’t Pac just agree to call Floyds bluff? Maybe Pac knew that was going to be the deal breaker and decided to stick with his no random testing so he didn’t have to get in the ring with Floyd. Maybe Pac was scared to fight Floyd. Na decline the random drug testing and then we won’t have to fight Floyd and we can just say Floyd was scared to fight me.

Posted November 5, 2013 3:44 pm 


Anonymous

PACQUIAO top 50 at best.

Posted November 5, 2013 3:40 pm 


PEEJ

Old Coot, Pac can’t choose to have defense like Floyd. Pac has zero defense. And he did choose to be boring. He did it against Mosley and did it against Bradley. Unfortunately against Bradley he lost the decision. Floyd has more skills. Folks only think he is boring because he is so dominant. Pac gets hit a lot more so there is just more drama in his fights. So you just don’t like the fact that Floyd has more skills than Pac and like I said, is just more dominant.

Posted November 5, 2013 3:40 pm 


Old Coot

@ High Sky: Then after Pac beat Cotto… Floyd Jr, joined Sr with the PED accusations And it was those unfounded accusations and demands that helped Floyd dodge the Pacman bullet, by repeatedly killing the fight. Bottom line, FLOYD STILL SKEERD!!

Posted November 5, 2013 3:24 pm 


Old Coot

@ High Sky: Ever since the Hatton embarrassment, Floyd Sr. has treated Pacquiao with spite and envy and accused him of unfounded PED nonsense.

Posted November 5, 2013 3:22 pm 


Old Coot

@ High Sky: Yep. Sr. called Roach- “Freddie the joke coach Roach”… Then got his ass handed to him when Manny KO’d Hatton.

Posted November 5, 2013 3:21 pm 


Ricky The Dragon Steambolt

@Old Coot, @High Sky, @HedDog, I totally agree with you that Marquez was MarPEDs(using PEDs) in his 4th fight against the PACMAN. In the 3rd fight, MarPEDs applied the Foot Stopper so he could throw his right hand while stepping on Pacquia’s foot, but Marquez’s power had no effect on PAC. So, he and his team figured out that by using the same tactic Foot Stopper with power(by using Steroids) would be the blueprint to beat PAC, and they did. What a shame with steroids usage by the team MarPEDs.

Posted November 5, 2013 3:17 pm 


Old Coot

This thing won’t let me post more than one sentence again!!

Posted November 5, 2013 3:16 pm 


High Sky

@HecDog, Yes, MarPEDs used the same “FOOT STOPPER” that MarPEDs used multiple times in their 3rd fight to tangle and stop Pacquiao from getting out and then he threw the right hand immediately and caught PAC at that very second.

Posted November 5, 2013 3:09 pm 


Old Coot

@ Ricky The Dragon Steambolt: EXACTLY!!! I mean how else does Marquez go from barely ever hurting Pacquiao in three fights, to knocking him down and then out cold, in a 4th? Particularly while Pac was clearly beating him better than in the previous 3 matches, & was headed for a UD, if not a KO of his own?

Answer- Angel Heredia brand juice… THAT’S HOW!!

Posted November 5, 2013 3:03 pm 


High Sky

@Old Coot, thank you. I don’t know you also remember that Mayweather Sr. was the trainer for the Ricky Hatton when Hatton fought against PAC. In that fight, right after the brutal KO by PAC, Mayweather Sr. RUN into the locker rooms because Mayweather Sr. was so afraid, instead of going into the ring to help Hatton. After that fight, team Hatton was so upset with Mayweather Sr. and they had huge arguments over the runaway. Since then, Mayweather Sr. has advised his son, Floyd, NEVER to fight Manny Pacquiao.

Posted November 5, 2013 3:03 pm 


Hecdog

I closely watched the Manny Pacquiao /Ped Man Marquez 4th fight last night. It was obvious Manny Pacquiao was comfortably ahead and on his way to a devastating knockout until the desperate, Ped Punch landed due to three things. Desperation, luck and Manny’s foot being tangled up with Ped Man Marquez, which luckily threw Manny off balance and the rest is history.
Now, as far as Manny Pacquiao is concerned, he is not a God in any way shape or form. Manny is a child of God that gives all glory to God.

Tears? No, there were no tears when Manny was defeated. Yes there was some painful moments after the fight as I watched Jinkee cry out for her husband. This was sad, but when Manny rose up as only true champions can, I knew he would be fine and return to the ring again.

Manny in comparison to great fighters of the past and present would beat them all. Robinson, Leonard, Mayweather, Hearns and others would have their hands full and lose IMO. Manny was a machine bent on destruction. Too fast, powerful, agile, athletic etc. Duran would be the only one in question. Duran was Duran. This fight would have been a pick em fight.

Ped use, well you can throw that out. Manny was a natural born puncher with destructive power similar to Tyson. Duran was also another born puncher. Manny is arguably the GOAT. On a one fight basis as I mentioned, no one beats him, but Duran has a chance.

Posted November 5, 2013 2:58 pm 


Ricky The Dragon Steambolt

We all saw a REAL, NONSTEROID, 40-year-old man Marquez in fight against Bradley, didn’t we? Without PEDs, Marquez was just that. In Marquez’s last fight against Pacquiao, there’s no doubt that Marquez was on STEROIDS. No doubt about that.

Posted November 5, 2013 2:56 pm 


Old Coot

@ High Sky… Yep… Floyd’s been scared of Pac ever since he beatdown a very game and speedy Cotto, so easily.

Posted November 5, 2013 2:54 pm 


Old Coot

@ PEEJ: Gimme a break… Lead-legged Marquez only benefited from the tough, love to bang, in your face warrior/crowd-pleaser instinct of Pacquiao… If Pacquiao chose to be boring and fight like Mayweather… Marquez could never touch him. I said this years ago… And Floyd and more recently Bradley validated my opinion.

Posted November 5, 2013 2:52 pm 


High Sky

@Peej, We all know Floyd is SCARED of PAC. As Floyd said, “I am very concerned of my health if I fight Manny Pacquiao. Boxing is a very dangerous sport and one punch can change the whole fight and your career.” When a boxer talks about “concerned of his health” if he fights certain opponents, what does that tell you? FEAR.

Also, when a boxer(Mayweather) keeps ducking and dodging another (PAC) for over 5 years with all kinds of tactics/out-of-this-world excuses to kill the fight, what does that signify? Also FEAR.

And, even now, Mayweather publicly said that he doesn’t fight Manny Pacquiao. Why does he close the door to his #1 threat, but not other fighters? Fear.

Clear? If you still don’t accept Floyd’s fear, you will never accept it even it is true. Floyd already admitted of his fear, so you should follow his wishes.

Posted November 5, 2013 2:52 pm 


Gussy Finknottle

Steady on. It was one KO loss.

I also wouldn’t call it a lucky punch, Manny got over confident and walked on to a great punch…it happens.

Posted November 5, 2013 2:51 pm 


Thurmal Underwear

Public Enemy

The Proof that MarPeds shot was just a lucky shot is that in his next fight vs Bradley he didn’t do sht to Bradley.. losing a pretty lopsided decision.. He didn’t hurt him or drop him.. MarPeds was back to his old losing ways.. but I can gurantee you that Paquiao will beat the living Guacomole out of dumb dumb Rios.. that you can bank on..
Posted November 5, 2013 2:26 pm

^He also didn’t engage much w/ him; he was in and out. He really used his legs to keep the distance and keep Marquez away. Bradley himself said something the effect in his corner that Marquez had real power. He made sure to keep away. So, that’s not proof at all. Sorry.

Posted November 5, 2013 2:47 pm 


PEEJ

No he did not rock Bradley. As a matter of fact if you watch the fight again that punch that so called rocked Bradley did not even land. Bradley had feet and ankle problems in the fight but instead of postponing the fight in fear it wouldn’t be rescheduled he just went through with the fight.

Posted November 5, 2013 2:46 pm 


High Sky

@Peej, Why fight did you see? Didn’t Manny Pacquiao ROCK the hell out of amateur Bradley? PAC landed so many punches to a point where PAC didn’t want to fight Bradley the whole 3 minutes, but carried Bradley to an EASY 12-round decision. However, PAC’s decision to carry Bradley to 12 rounds came back a haunted him, big time, as the 3 Zombies(American judges) handed the bones to beaten Bradley.

Bottom line: Yes, PAC beat the hell out of Bradley. Even Mayweather Sr., who does not like Manny Pacquiao, said the same, “Manny Pacquiao beat the hell out of Bradley in that fight.”

Posted November 5, 2013 2:41 pm 


High Sky

If Manny Pacquiao loses to Brandon Rios, I do agree that Manny should hang up his gloves. However, that’s NOT going to happen. I see that Manny Pacquiao is going to brutally beat Rios until Rios can’t get up OR Rios’s corner stops the fight from a brutal beating OR else we will a legal murder in China.

Posted November 5, 2013 2:36 pm 


PEEJ

Stop saying Manny beat the hell out of Bradley. No he didn’t. Yes I believe Manny won but he was not fighting for 3 minutes a round. He was only fighting for 30 seconds a round. Not to mention he did not land as many punches as punch stats claim he did. And he never hurt Bradley. So he did not beat the hell out of Bradley.

Posted November 5, 2013 2:32 pm 


Boxer

Like I said bam bam is supposed to lose this fight just like Canelo was supposed to lose against Floyd , it’s a buisness! Sadly!

Posted November 5, 2013 2:31 pm 


PEEJ

Well Bradley doesn’t just run in with reckless punchs like Pac has done his whole career. That is the problem with Pac, yeah he punches hard but he never has his feet under him when he is punching. He just runs in throwing punches, which is why he is able to get countered. Plus he has no defense. Bradley would jab and move, give angles and role with punches. Pac may give you an angle when he is punching but he is not giving angles for defensive purposes. You see how Katsidis and Diaz came and attacked and what happened to them? It is no coincidence that the fighters that came in attacking with all offense more than likely lost and lost by KO.

Posted November 5, 2013 2:30 pm 


Boxer

Public enemy for being boriqua you sure don’t know much about boxing, either that or you lie to yourself, always downing the Mexican fighters I’m not Mexican but again I keep it real, Marquez set up pacman for that finishing blow he counterd a lazy jab, Canelo hiding from triple g? Why don’t you say cotto is ducking triple g they both fight on HBO, their talking him and Martinez at 160 why not triple g? I’m a fan of cotto but again I keep it real, like the sport and what the fighter brings to the table, remember we don’t choose out race so to talk on someone caus of their race who’s the one that looks childish????

Posted November 5, 2013 2:29 pm 


Public Enemy

The Proof that MarPeds shot was just a lucky shot is that in his next fight vs Bradley he didn’t do sht to Bradley.. losing a pretty lopsided decision.. He didn’t hurt him or drop him.. MarPeds was back to his old losing ways.. but I can gurantee you that Paquiao will beat the living Guacomole out of dumb dumb Rios.. that you can bank on..

Posted November 5, 2013 2:26 pm 


Bad Dog

Having a hard time finding a point in this article.

If, If. If….

If Rob’s Aunt had balls, she’d be his uncle !

Posted November 5, 2013 2:24 pm 


PEEJ

Well in Pacs last 2 fights against Marquez it was the mexican fans that pulled in the numbers. Not Pac fans. Pac has been losing fans ever since he fought Mosley. His numbers have not been what they used to be. You can say what every you want about Floyd fans but I backed up every one of my statements with facts. Most of yall come with Floyd is scared, Marqeuz landed a lucky punch. Nothing factual just theories and statements.

Posted November 5, 2013 2:23 pm 


BeReal

Still belive in Pac ,think he will surprise a lot of ppl ,not just with the Rios fight but the remaining career

Posted November 5, 2013 2:13 pm 


Shane

Captain Obvious speaks.

Posted November 5, 2013 2:10 pm 


moonshineman

SOS, Little Floyd minion taking up for his refusal to fight Pacquiao. At the end of the day, Little Floyd will not prove us all wrong and fight Pacquiao.
Bradley has never had gate. Marquez doesn’t have much gate anymore. There are 2 fighter that can command multi millions. Little Floyd and Pacquiao. Pacquiao is the only one with any guts. By the way, Little Floyd doesn’t mention Pacquiao and PED’s anymore, does he???

Posted November 5, 2013 2:04 pm 


Happyboy

Adrian – you dumb ass, never try put words in my mouth, thats being a moron. I never said Pac only faught bums, Ledwaba, Barrera, Marquez, Hutton, are no push overs Pac was spectacular there however I do question his wins over weight drained ODH let most boxers to try make weight they were 10yrs ago amd see what you’ll get), Cotto ( infact I thaught that was his best perfomance only to find he too was wright drained), Mosley was old and worn out and dismantled by Money May, Margarito had been exposed as a cheat and got his ass ktfo by Mosley.

Posted November 5, 2013 1:58 pm 


PEEJ

And if Floyd is so scared of Pac then why didn’t Pac call his bluff and accept the blood test? If Floyd was scared then he would of turned the fight down. As it is now he accepted everything that Pac demanded in the first negotiations and Floyd asked for one thing and that was blood test. But Pac declined. All this he had issues after the first Morales fight. Do yall not see that Pac has had some type of excuse in all his losses or close fights? Cramping in the legs, blood taken. Come on now.

Posted November 5, 2013 1:49 pm 


PEEJ

Oh the old Pac was going for the finish. Just like he did in the first fight and just like he did in the 2nd fight. Sorry folks but Marquez keeps getting up. Pac was not going to keep him down. Pac got KOd regardless if you like it or not and it was not a lucky punch. He has been hitting Pac with that same punch for 4 fights now. Maybe if Pac made an adjustment he wouldn’t of been hit with that same punch for the last 4 fights. He got KOd deal with it. All this his eyes where closed, you do realize people blink right.

Posted November 5, 2013 1:47 pm 


Old Coot

Adrian: You said it all… Being a natural counter-puncher, Marquez instinctively threw a counter and it happened to land perfectly, that is all… Even Marquez was surprised.

Posted November 5, 2013 1:43 pm 


Adrian

He slipped * not smiled lol

Posted November 5, 2013 1:41 pm 


Pacquiao is ducking Bradley and Ruslan

This is the nonsense that @Hecdog wrote “Manny Pacquiao stands for justice, fairness, honesty, respect and humility. He has nothing left to prove. The champion of the ring, the champion of the people and champion of the poor. This is Manny Pacquiao.”

What is this crap. Sounds like the beginning of a comic book- “Pinoy Superman” starring JMM as Cryponite, and Floyd Maywether as Lex Luther.

Pac fanatics cannot separate truth from fiction, reality from delusion. Instead being realist they live in this world where Pac is a god. The title of the article says it all. This is the truth- No matter what is said, no matter what words are written here– The tale of Manny Pacman will be in Nov. 2013 in a Chinese auditorium.

Sad, sad People like Hecdog and his ilk, who have taken a little midget boxer and turned him into a god, will have their day of reckoning- if he loses what will they say? How will they deal with reality? I for one am looking forward to it, and will be laughing my A$$ off, counting my money, when Pac goes to sleep at the hands of Rios.

Posted November 5, 2013 1:39 pm 


Adrian

PEEJ

Marquez did not land a lucky punch. He ment to throw the punch, he ment to land the punch. He has been hitting Pac with that punch for 4 fights now. It was not lucky and there is only so much a fighter can take before they fall. Apparently Pac had finally taken enough.

Posted November 5, 2013 1:24 pm

Ohhhbh please spare us peej…. Have you seen the ko in a replay ???????
PAC was going for the finish and he sliped with the punch and Marquez threw a counter instinctly like he always did but that time PAC was with the body forward because he smiled and he got caught right in a jaw so it was a double whammy body inertia and a punch at the same time .. And that wasn’t planed the punch was thrown instinctly by Marquez as usual but got lucky because PAC sliped with his punch and that’s it … Planed my ass !!!

Posted November 5, 2013 1:39 pm 


Papo

It’ll be difficult for Pac to get his career on track if he does lose this fight…first, it would be against a fighter that just lost his previous fight; second, it’ll be against a challenger that’s coming up in weight; thirdly, Pac lost his previous fight by KO; and fourthly, (some of you have already alluded to this issue) many more people will point out that he didn’t win due to his agreement to the tougher drug testing program…in other words, his previous accomplishment will be in questioned.

He ought to win this fight, and believe he will. He has power and won’t have any issues finding Rios, who is a coming forward fighter with hardly any defense. He did a job on Marquez’ face before being KOed and I see him doing the same, or worst, to Rios. I predict Pac will win the fight by late technical KO.

Posted November 5, 2013 1:35 pm 


Adrian

Old coot – yeah you are right the guy like happyboy now says that PAC fought no one good and he was bob arums creation , but they were all complaining how PAC must be on something because is beat much bigger boxer like floyed senior who was every night in here giving interviews and saying no one did like PAC did who started at 115 punds and is knocking welterweights now so he wAs saying he must be on steroids and he wouldn’t let his nefew to get hurt in ring with someone who is juiced like PAC …. Lol in other words back then PAC was too good and now for haters PAC beat no one and was a hype… Hahahahaha

Posted November 5, 2013 1:32 pm 


Old Coot

Top Dawg: And as we all know, Manny lost that 1st rematch, HE felt, due to those extra blood-tests. And if you don’t know what I’m talking about look it up! And quit peddling your nonsense!

Bottom line Floyd always has and still does piss his Huggies, at the mere mention of the name Pacquiao!

Posted November 5, 2013 1:30 pm 


Old Coot

Top Dawg: That PED BS is just Floyd’s game to duck Pacman, after he’d found out that Manny had then only recently became distrustful of blood-testing due to Erik Morales demanded he take more tests just 2 days prior to their second fight, after somebody strangely claimed they’d lost all his other tests.

Posted November 5, 2013 1:29 pm 


PEEJ

Ortiz was not sucker punched, Ref said fight which ment the fight then back on. Ortiz is the dumb one who wanted to hug and kiss for the 3rd or 4th time. This is a fight not a love fest

Posted November 5, 2013 1:25 pm 


Thurmal Underwear

Hecdog

Manny Pacquiao, the living legend will rise above all the skeptics including Bob Arum. Manny Pacquiao is a living legend that has overcome tragedy, hostility and poverty to become one of the greatest prize fighters of all time, if not the best ever. Mr Arum happens to be his promoter. Promoters will always find a way to make another dime off of another fighter. They are the money makers of this brutal yet beautiful sport. Promoters have always been the heartless piranhas that that are driven by money and power. Manny Pacquiao will pay no attention to the worthless words of Mr. Arum. Manny is unfortunately locked in to a contract that short changes his pocket, but what would any boxer do if he came from nothing and was then promised millions of dollars. Manny Pacquiao is the world’s most popular athlete. This sports icon has graced the cover of TIME Magazine. He is the first congressman, the first 8 division world boxing champion and the first dynamic fighter that is beloved so dearly by the world. Predident Obama requested his company during his most difficult political time because Manny Pacquiao has been through worse times and came back stronger. On November 22, 2013, Manny Pacquiao will return to the ring. The pride of the Philippines, the idol of millions around the world will bring his tenacious, electrifying, unmatched explosive boxing style for the world to see again. This will bring joy to many. Bob Arum can never feel the love and satisfaction Manny Pacquiao receives from his fans. All the money in the world cannot buy this. If Manny Pacquiao were to lose another fight, he will remain loved by the world. Manny Pacquiao will probably be the next President of his country because of what he means to his country. Manny Pacquiao stands for justice, fairness, honesty, respect and humility. He has nothing left to prove. The champion of the ring, the champion of the people and champion of the poor. This is Manny Pacquiao.
Posted November 5, 2013 1:13 am

^ I feel a tear coming on.

Posted November 5, 2013 1:24 pm 


PEEJ

Marquez did not land a lucky punch. He ment to throw the punch, he ment to land the punch. He has been hitting Pac with that punch for 4 fights now. It was not lucky and there is only so much a fighter can take before they fall. Apparently Pac had finally taken enough.

Posted November 5, 2013 1:24 pm 


Adrian

Tepee – sure you would fare good with rios but I think you would better fare against Ortiz it only takes a sucker punch and a corrupt refery and you are set…

Posted November 5, 2013 1:23 pm 


Old Coot

Top Dawg: That’s right… Keep peddling that lie Juice… Because neither you, nor I, NOR FLOYD, nor ANYONE really believes or ever REALLY believed Pacquiao was ever on anything!… WHY?

Posted November 5, 2013 1:23 pm 


Thurmal Underwear

Translation: Manny is a sure bet.

Posted November 5, 2013 1:23 pm 


Public Enemy

Oh, I do believe MarPeds had his eyes closed when he throw that lucky hail mary shot vs Paquiao who was boxing his ears off easily..

Posted November 5, 2013 1:22 pm 


Public Enemy

a lucky shot is a shot that is thrown by a fighter getting his AZZZ Whoooped in hopes it lands to end the AZZZ Whoopin.. aka what Marquez did vs Paquiao. a Hail Mary shot thrown by a Quarterback into the end zone.. no idea if it’ll get caught but he’s hoping it does..

Posted November 5, 2013 1:21 pm 


It’s Me, Ernie

agree with Huckster

Posted November 5, 2013 1:20 pm 


Adrian

Happyboy , if PAC fought no one and beat only bums then how come you predict rios will lose From PAC ??? Rios is no bum has only one old and he is for sure better then flo sucker punch guy Ortiz !!! And bob arum could have never ” created” PAC if he didn’t beAt a superstar and shock the world when he beat Barrera….Barrera was huge back then … And if you criticize PAC oponent as weak and bums then you are doing the same to floyed because he fought he same guys and much less because he ” retired “when we devision was hot and full of talents …. Stop the hatered

Posted November 5, 2013 1:19 pm 


huckster

wish we could say arum is finished.

Posted November 5, 2013 1:14 pm 


Teepee

Bottom line PAC hasn’t been winning sense the juice issue came up he just don’t have that fire any more for some reason maybe he took to many hits in those fight but he don’t have that fire any more yeah he will look good with this guy he’ll we all would lol

Posted November 5, 2013 1:11 pm 


Adrian

A lot of wishful thinkers in here …. This known anti PAC pundit is sayin you can’t claim
” a lucky ” punch ko Loss after ko loss … As if PAC got knocked out already against rios ….let’s wAit and see the fight first then if PAC gets knocked out then you can criticize him for that as much as you like , but NOT just yet … PAC lost to morales the first fight too but then he destroyed the guy !

Posted November 5, 2013 12:50 pm 


SeanieP

Pacman will not lose this one, he will turn Rio’s into a punchbag KO before R8

Posted November 5, 2013 12:45 pm 


joey

these people calling pacman goat, are they over 21.

Posted November 5, 2013 12:45 pm 


Pup you

Happyboy

That picture is a consistant reminder that he got ktfo by a 40 yr old LW. Deal with it. I swear you sound like Chicago Guy.

Posted November 5, 2013 12:04 pm

Deal with it?? Lmao !!!

Posted November 5, 2013 12:44 pm 


Anonymous

CAM bang on. duran would have put him to sleep.

Posted November 5, 2013 12:39 pm 


boxing barlow

I dont go in for lucky punches usually either. When a fighter throws a punch there is only one reason he is throwing it and its got bad intentions alll over it. So when someone throws a punch and then a fighter gets knocked out its no ‘lucky punch’. But, could Marquez find that punch again? It took him 4 fights to work out the key to unlocking Pacman. If Pacman came back for a 5th fight would he make the relevant adjustments? Personally I think so.

Posted November 5, 2013 12:39 pm 


CAM

Not a lucky punch. Same type of right hand that KOd Lewis against McCall…natural counter punchers practice this endlessly in the gym. He threw it at the right time when manny was coming of a feint. It happens when u fight a guy as much as they did. He picked up on his habits.

Posted November 5, 2013 12:37 pm 


CAM

In the history of boxing Pac was great but would not have won against. Duran; Whitaker; Chavez. Especially Duran he would have tooken a carrer ending type of beating. At lightweight it’d hard to Imagine any fighter of any era beating Duran.

Posted November 5, 2013 12:30 pm 


Prof Konje

As I stated in an earlier post, the Marquez punch was NOT LUCKY. He meant to do it and he did. Luck had nothing to do with if. Face it.

Posted November 5, 2013 12:29 pm 


boxing barlow

He is still top two rated fighter of his generation and it is debatable that he could be number one as the recognised number 1 (mayweather) never fought him.

Posted November 5, 2013 12:25 pm 


Public Enemy

When Canelo comes out of hiding GGG will be waiting for him.. LOL

Posted November 5, 2013 12:20 pm 


Happyboy

Public Enemy – please eleborate on what exactly is a ” lucky punch “

Posted November 5, 2013 12:19 pm 


malachi

pacman knocks rios out, it aint hard to tell this was just a set up fight..put pacman in with the radical Russian and if he beats him convincingly and then il start yelling pacmans back yaw!….yezzzir!

Posted November 5, 2013 12:16 pm 


mex…rambo

The only reason i want pacman to win …its because he is the one who can dethrone floyd..

Posted November 5, 2013 12:10 pm 


Public Enemy

Bottom line is Paquiao has kicked a hell of alot more mexican Culitos then Mexicans have beaten him.. one lucky punch from a steriods abuser doesn’t erase the 2 dozen or so Mexicans Paquiao has obliterated in the Ring and Rios will be his next..

Posted November 5, 2013 12:07 pm 


Happyboy

That picture is a consistant reminder that he got ktfo by a 40 yr old LW. Deal with it. I swear you sound like Chicago Guy.

Posted November 5, 2013 12:04 pm 


big rubben

ESB have no idea of paquiao’s power and skills. How in the world this writers keep believing that paquiao should get knock out from now on? Unbelievable. .what a jerks..

Posted November 5, 2013 12:04 pm 


Happyboy

Hecdog – Manny has been KO’d three times and you continue talking nonsense as if his unbeaten, will it only register in your brain only once he dies in the ring that his beatable and has been ktfo 3 times.

Posted November 5, 2013 12:02 pm 


Happyboy

Boxing barlow – funny how you Pactards choose to forget the first KO

Posted November 5, 2013 11:59 am 


Teepee

The G.O.A.T. not even close but was good for boxing and we all know he will in this fight come on it’s not that much of a risk PAC has more skill than this kid lol

Posted November 5, 2013 11:58 am 


te tumbo

Excellent cover pic! ESB should never stop reminding it’s posters of precisely what Pacquiao* is attempting to come back from: the most BRUTAL Rivalry-Ending KO in Boxing History. the irony becomes particularly thick with the “Get Crackin” angles, which is precisely what Marquez promised and preCisely what he executed. for variety ESB should mix in frontal pix of the moment Marquez’s “Dinamita” exPLODED on Pacquiao’s* mug. meanwhile, Pacquiao’s* delusional fanboys should simply avert their eyes . . . as IF the image of Pacquiao* dropping face-first into the canvas hasn’t been replaying in their minds for the past year. moreover, while Pacquiao* avoids a 5th matchup v. Marquez in Mexico on Marquez’s terms, there is nothing Pacquiao* can ever do to erase the spectacular image of himself being DEMOLISHED and FLATTENED by the 39-year-old Marquez . . . Viva Marquez!

Posted November 5, 2013 11:55 am 


Hecdog

ESB should stop making Manny Pacquiao look bad by continually putting this picture up. This serves no purpose whatsoever. Manny Pacquiao is regarded by many as arguably the greatest fighter of all time. On a one fight basis, no one IMO could have ever beaten the legendary Manny Pacquiao. His career is unequaled says the 8 division titles that no one has ever won. We all remember the reign of terror Manny showcased to the boxing world. Oscar, Mosely, Margarito, Hatton, Morales, Barrera, Marquez, Diaz all succumbed to the punishment Manny handed out. There is no doubt the man had no rival during that time. Floyd Mayweather and his camp literally ran as fast as they could from Manny. Floyd Sr, Uncle Roger and Floyd himself tried place blame on peds, food, the stars, the universe etc. Pure fear struck their hearts, and that’s why the fight was never made. Manny gets hit with the infamous Ped Punch and his haters do everything to step on Manny. It’s okay though, Manny holds no grudges and will continue his career on November 22, 2013. The world awaits the return of the boxing king. Brandon Rios is a tough warrior. Once again, Manny Pacquiao takes on the toughest fighter in his era. He’s not afraid. I can’t think of one fighter that would take such a risk after losing in such an awful way. This is Manny Pacquiao. He fears no one, fights the best, and fights for his fans. The man is a living legend, and to discredit his accomplishments or taint his reputation in any way is a disservice to him and boxing. ESB, I would appreciate this picture of Manny Pacquiao taken off and replaced by picture that shows the true Manny Pacquiao. Thank You. I think most fans would agree.

Posted November 5, 2013 11:47 am 


Public Enemy

Mayweathers last two fights will be a rematch with Cotto and a Grand Finally fight with Paquiao once Paquiao obliterates Rios..

Posted November 5, 2013 11:40 am 


Public Enemy

The Drug tests have to be better then they are in Mexico.. LOL

Posted November 5, 2013 11:38 am 


Hidalgo

“Andre Ward vs Arturo Gatti”

Happyboy, I think you mean Mickey Ward.

Posted November 5, 2013 11:37 am 


RapidFire

All I can say is Rios move your head and counter A LOT..seems to be Pacquiao’s weakness. A fight between Floyd and Pacquiao won’t happen Bob Arum is in there. Floyd doesn’t want to give Arum a dime. So fans get over that fight seriously

Posted November 5, 2013 11:35 am 


Anonymous

are the drug tests in china as strict as they are in america. LOL.

Posted November 5, 2013 11:16 am 


Public Enemy

More Arum Nonsense, he knows damn well Paquiao is going to Kill Rios like he destroyed MargaCheato. It’s just to build up the suspense and drama for this mismatch. Rios is a Head First Plodder who has ZERO defensive skills and takes every shot to the face.. Paquiao is going to beat him like a cheap Tijuana Pinyata.

Posted November 5, 2013 11:11 am 


boxing barlow

People look at the stats too much rather than the facts. Bradley only beat Pacman on paper. Everyone in that arena and watching on TV knew that Pacman won that fight. This is against an unbeaten opponent who has now beat Marquez, Alexander, and Peterson. He argubally has the best record at welterweight after mayweather. So beating a guy like Bradley hardly suggests your finished. Then you look at his other loss against Marquez. No doubt that Marquez is Pacmans nemesis and visa versa. Yet up until that KO Pacman was well in control of that fight. For the first time in all 4 fights he looked like he had finally got to grips with Marquez and was doing a nuimber on him, but then that punch came and that was that. So that was a very competative fight and I would guesss that if there was a 5th fight Pacman would start as bookies favorite. For me he has had a run of bad luck. He may have tipped over the hill in terms of his peak but make no doubt about it, this guy still hold the biggest threat out there to Mayweather!

Posted November 5, 2013 10:41 am 


Teepee

No juice no win and arum know this he know his cash cow is done time to throw him to the wolves lol PAC should have left arum long ago stupid lol

Posted November 5, 2013 10:39 am 


Top Dawg

Arum is KNOWN for squeezing every LAST drop out of a SHOT fighter!! He will squeeze every drop out of Pacquiao and leave him BROKE!! Arum’s ALREADY talking about Pacquiao fighting Mayweather!

Posted November 5, 2013 10:34 am 


Prof Konje

That was not a lucky punch simply because Marquez MEANT to do it. Now if Marquez had his head down simply flailing his arms in a windmill motion, or threw the punch while his back was turned, then it could be considered a “lucky” punch. As it happened, Marquez meant to do what he did and Paquaio got knocked out. If Pacquaio is beaten decisively by Rios, I hope for his sake (safety’s sake) that he realizes that he has slipped and it may be best for him, his health, and his family to hang up the gloves. However, I have no doubt that Arum, who is motivated by the almighty dollar, will continue to use Pacquaio even though his best days are behind him. Should Pacquaio lose, it’s up to those who really care about him to convince him to stop boing and enjoy the rest of his life in good health.

Posted November 5, 2013 10:31 am 


Top Dawg

Pacquiao is DRUG Testing for Rios a $15M Guarantee!! But he wouldn’t TEST for Mayweather a $50M guarantee?? That’s BRAINS for you?

Posted November 5, 2013 10:14 am 


Top Dawg

Without the ‘secret sauce’ PACQUIAO is FINISHED!!!

Posted November 5, 2013 10:13 am 


Top Dawg

THE FACT that Arum is EVEN bringing this UP means that they have DOUBT that Pacquiao can beat Rios!! They’re saying this before the fight has happened, maybe they’re seeing something in training that’s making them believe that Pacquiao will lose.

Posted November 5, 2013 10:11 am 


Happyboy

A barn burner was Israel Vasquez vs Rafeal Marquez, Michael Carbajal vs Humberto Gonzalez, Andre Ward vs Arturo Gatti & Marco Antonio Barrera vs Erik Morales, this will be a slaughter.

Posted November 5, 2013 9:43 am 


Happyboy

His most definately a great fighter, no doubt about it.

Posted November 5, 2013 9:40 am 


DJ

This author is already making excuses if Pacman gets knocked out. He got knocked out by Marquez and you are acting as if he is already knocked out by Rios. Let the fight happen and if he loses we’ll see what he says, don’t already assume what he will say if he loses. I hope Pacman knocks this filthy mouthed bum out. Pacman all the way!!!!!

Posted November 5, 2013 9:37 am 


Smith

I glad this Rios / Paquiao fight is happening. People want to see a barn burner

Posted November 5, 2013 9:26 am 


Smith

Happy boy give Paquiao credit he still is a great fighter

Posted November 5, 2013 9:24 am 


Whocares

Arum is selling the fight and his fighter Pacquiao. It’s all show. Arum knows that Pac will beat Rios. If he doesn’t than it is over. It’s a win win situation for Arum…if Pac wins he proved him wrong (and Arum makes more money), if he loses he was right…and Rios will have a big fight next (Provodkinov)…

By the way, is it just me, or does Rios have already signs of brain damage? He mumbles words. Boxng is truly a dangerous sport for tough guys, who are sometimes to tough for their own good. A high price to pay for the view years of fame and some money. And most don’t make that much either. Abdusalamov made only $40,000 in his fight against Perez. It won’t pay his hospital bills…

Posted November 5, 2013 9:03 am 


irishny

If my auntie had nuts she’d be my uncle.
Fact is Pacquiao is going to beat Rios up.

Posted November 5, 2013 8:31 am 


Brazilian Boxing Fan

I believe Pacquiao will beat Rios.

Posted November 5, 2013 8:30 am 


maracho

And this is China where Freddie may try to reap revenge for all those bad jokes that Bambam played on him.

Anyway Coaches please take responsibility and throw in the towel if either these two warriors need it because the ref may not

Posted November 5, 2013 8:17 am 


Suzy Knight

Get lost Bob and stop being so horrible.

Posted November 5, 2013 8:13 am 


Happyboy

Lil Richie Rich – let me rephrase that for you. ” and only kept on refusing to test, coming up with requests for cut off dates on (random) tests until he got his ass handed to him and his brains smacked into place” lmfao.

Posted November 5, 2013 8:11 am 


Happyboy

Lil Richie Rich – I said ” M against weight draining and weakening a boxer just to make a fight ” what do you think that means, that it’s fine when ODH asked for it. Not! Thats why we have different ” weight ” divisions so what’s with the catchweights? Worse after new catchweight divisions like cruiserweight & Jnr Middleweight were created you Pac & Margarito creating a catchweight in a catchweight division for a title fight in a division neither fighters ever faught on. ” 8 division champion, Hecdogs best fighter ever. Pffft.

Posted November 5, 2013 8:05 am 


MAGOMED ABDUSALAMOV

a-rum’s cash cow is going dry

Posted November 5, 2013 8:01 am 


nameless

ESB has to stop using that picture showing Pac napping. Enough already.

Posted November 5, 2013 7:44 am 


Rich

Nappyboy….You mention “in terms of insight”….but show very little or none yourself…You state quite profoundly “Pacq was kept away from the best of the era Money Mayweather.”.Thats a howler,it was Pac who asked Bunny for the fight in the first place and he kept refusing….Another of your extended stretching of your imagination is the one about ODH being dried up by Pac…..Totally untrue, it was ODH who offered the fight to Pac and he also stipulated the weight…In the Cotto fight he was 2lbs heavier in his previous fight so only had to drop 2lbs but you will glomm onto that and embellish it to make it extremely important, even when Cotto said after the fight it was no problem..Why is it Paq is responsible for him not fighting at WW again….

Posted November 5, 2013 6:14 am 


Ray Ray

Finished with another lose? Really. Thats y Rios is there 2 stand in front of him and get B lined.

Posted November 5, 2013 6:07 am 


Hecped

Hecdog is delusional

Posted November 5, 2013 6:05 am 


Happyboy

Only Pactards think a mini Margarito like Rios is a true test for their demi god Pacnap. I usually hate what Suzie q says about Pinoys but somehow that’s sadly true.

Posted November 5, 2013 4:52 am 


Anonymous

Incognito,I do like the fight my man but only to see rios get banged out after taking the piss out of Freddie’s condition a few years ago.
REM,we’ll said sir..

Posted November 5, 2013 4:50 am 


REM

Btw says a lot about Pacs greatness that a former champ and solid pro is in reality less than a tuneup for Pac he’s truly being sacraficed to the pinoy God lol.

Posted November 5, 2013 4:44 am 


Happyboy

Hec are you not related to another cult follower we had here by the name of Chicago Guy, you resemble him in many ways.

Posted November 5, 2013 4:41 am 


REM

This might be the easiest fight of Pacs career. This is an exibition of Pacs attributes he is Pacaso and Rios is the canvas. I advise people not to get to hype over this this isn’t a test for Pac. Just enjoy Pacs gifts on full dispay against an outmatched sacraficial lamb. If I didn’t have such a disdain for Rios I would hesitate to ever order this fight this is an easier fight than Hatton for Pac.

Posted November 5, 2013 4:38 am 


Happyboy

Hecdog – if beating a guy who lost his last fight and given a gift decision against a LW ( Abril) is considred a comeback perhaps you deserve to get fooled by Arum besides you consider a guy who got KTFO by a 40yr old LW the greatest boxer ever so can’t really say I expect much from you in terms of insight.

Posted November 5, 2013 4:36 am 


Happyboy

Smith – anyone stupid enough to listen to a jilted groupie like fitty cents is a fool. Margarito is a proven cheat and his entire record should be scraped off like they’ve done with cheaters like Armstrong and Marion Jones, Floyd faught ODH @154lbs and beat him while Pacnap dried him up to a weight he had not made in 10yrs what’d you think was gonna happen, the same for Cotto (145lbs) who has not faught as a WW since the loss. M against weight draining and weakening a boxer just to make a fight including Floyd vs Alvarez.

Posted November 5, 2013 4:30 am 


Incognito68

How can you not like this fight?

Posted November 5, 2013 4:19 am 


Anonymous

Arum is talking out of his arse,he’s fed dumb dumb rios to manny like a sacrificed lamb,only one out come here my friends,an easy devastating KO for bobs cash cow.

Posted November 5, 2013 3:55 am 


DMX

How can you not like this fight?
Rios is starving and has an amazing capacicity to soak up punishment
Pacquiao, as is his nature loves to destroy and to conquer

This has all the hall marks of Micky Ward v Gatti
BRUTAL !

Or save your money for Floyd Mayweather v Nonito Donaire at a playground near you soon

Posted November 5, 2013 3:24 am 


Punch

It isn’t a given that Pacman will win but it’s the most probable outcome. Pacman by stoppage or a ridiculously wide UD. Pacman is probably not the same fighter anymore but still very dangerous and capable. I expect him to put it all on the line and win this one. Maybe a fight with Floyd is still possible when Arum gets out of the picture and that could only happen if Manny loses and Arum cuts him loose. So a loss for Manny could be a blessing in disguise.

Posted November 5, 2013 3:19 am 


te tumbo

“I have no doubts that Arum will continue to faithfully schedule Pacquiao for future pay-per-view bouts even if Rios knocks him out cold in the fight . . .” IF Pacquiao* chooses tto continue fighting after a KO loss to Rios, it will be as an undercard to Rios. otherwise, his PPV-headlining days will be officially OVER. Btw, a Pacquiao* loss will be as huge for Rios as it will be devastating for Pacquiao*. we’ll see if Pacquiao* resorts to the “running” that his fanboys are constantly criticizing Mayweather for. otherwise and IMO, toe-to-toe exchanges are going to favor the biggest and strongest “Bam-Bam” ever. i can already see his overhand rights and uppercuts catching and buckling Manny* on the inside. win or lose, Pacquiao* is going to have his arms full trying to handle Rios.

Posted November 5, 2013 2:43 am 


MJames

Word on the street is that Khan v Mosley is close to being signed for early 2014. Another over-the-hill opponent for Khan. I respect Shane, but really? Please don’t give this guy Khan a shot, Floyd. He hasn’t earned it – and a sparring session with a faded Sugar Shane won’t change that.

Posted November 5, 2013 2:24 am 


RapidFire

If Rios comes in the Magaritoing running into every shot then yea Pacquiai wins. With head movement Rios could make this competitive bout. Maybe even win by UD..

Posted November 5, 2013 2:16 am 


Hecdog

SMITH my friend, well put. HappyBoy, Manny will be back to conquer the boxing world once again.

Posted November 5, 2013 1:58 am 


nameless

The only guy more delusional than hecdog is old coot, or are they one and the same??? Hmmm.

Posted November 5, 2013 1:57 am 


nameless

and they make no sense anyway.

Posted November 5, 2013 1:55 am 


nameless

Funny we have here the original happyboy and his clone, one after the other. I do not care however, they are both fog *ts.

Posted November 5, 2013 1:54 am 


Smith

Happy boy, Manny fought Margarito that Mayweather didn’t want to fight and purposely retired to avoid him. Paquiao fought yrs earlier a fresher Cotto, stopped DLH that Mayweather couldn’t do. Paq fought proven champs like Morales, Barrera and Marquez. Paq has proven himself even 50 cent said Mayweather was scared of of him. No denying it Paquiao is a great fighter.

Posted November 5, 2013 1:51 am 


Happyboy

Don’t be fooled by Arum’s games Bam Bam will loose by KO to Manny, his just playing with your mind with all this talk of the end. Rios is a mini bull and Arum is trying to create a situation qhereby it looks like Manny is facing a formidable opponent in Rios which his not as the guy lost his last fight and was beaten by a LW Abril last year. Manny is not losing to Rios, believe that.

Posted November 5, 2013 1:48 am 


Happyboy

Hecdog – you need to snap out of it my friend. Manny is the creation of Bob Arum who promoted him against carefully picked Top Rank stablemates and was kept away from the best of his era Money Mayweather through several excuses which have somehow all disapeared against Rios. I fon’t ecpect Manny to loose against BamBam but Manny was never anywhere near being the best ever when he never even faught the best in his era.

Posted November 5, 2013 1:41 am 


Hecdog

Manny Pacquiao, the living legend will rise above all the skeptics including Bob Arum. Manny Pacquiao is a living legend that has overcome tragedy, hostility and poverty to become one of the greatest prize fighters of all time, if not the best ever. Mr Arum happens to be his promoter. Promoters will always find a way to make another dime off of another fighter. They are the money makers of this brutal yet beautiful sport. Promoters have always been the heartless piranhas that that are driven by money and power. Manny Pacquiao will pay no attention to the worthless words of Mr. Arum. Manny is unfortunately locked in to a contract that short changes his pocket, but what would any boxer do if he came from nothing and was then promised millions of dollars. Manny Pacquiao is the world’s most popular athlete. This sports icon has graced the cover of TIME Magazine. He is the first congressman, the first 8 division world boxing champion and the first dynamic fighter that is beloved so dearly by the world. Predident Obama requested his company during his most difficult political time because Manny Pacquiao has been through worse times and came back stronger. On November 22, 2013, Manny Pacquiao will return to the ring. The pride of the Philippines, the idol of millions around the world will bring his tenacious, electrifying, unmatched explosive boxing style for the world to see again. This will bring joy to many. Bob Arum can never feel the love and satisfaction Manny Pacquiao receives from his fans. All the money in the world cannot buy this. If Manny Pacquiao were to lose another fight, he will remain loved by the world. Manny Pacquiao will probably be the next President of his country because of what he means to his country. Manny Pacquiao stands for justice, fairness, honesty, respect and humility. He has nothing left to prove. The champion of the ring, the champion of the people and champion of the poor. This is Manny Pacquiao.

Posted November 5, 2013 1:13 am 


zera

this is how Arum will repay Pac after all this years…. Arum truly is a Crook

Posted November 5, 2013 12:32 am 



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