Well tell Stevenson to jump into the Ring like Mosley DID to Floyd and then Ward will be forced to SPANK him for his disrepectfulness.Posted November 18, 2013 2:49 am
It’s time SOB Ward fight outside his home town with his personal referee, judges, boxing commission, commentators, etc.
Stevenson has been calling out Ward for a long time now, called Ward out on national television, but Ward ran away, Ward will not even answer Stevenson. Stevenson even said he would fight Ward at 175 or even go down to 168, but Ward still will not answer him……………Posted November 18, 2013 2:23 am
Froch would have to win by an injury to ward or a bad cut.Posted November 17, 2013 12:31 pm
Tark…”You get paid for being the recognized and best fighter in your division.”…………
“He made the same money as Kessler when Kessler was the big favorite to win.. Plus the best fighters don’t always make the most money.”
You’re contradicting yourself.
You SHOULD get paid for being the best in your division, but that isn`t always the case. You actually get paid because people are prepared to buy the product that is you and your fights.
Ward is super lucky the S6 came along – a tournament designed by a US TV company to create an advantageous situation for three US fighters who at the time would not necessarily deserve to be there.
Really it is a bit of a travesty that Kessler, the consensus no1 had to travel to the USA, make poor money to fight an unproven US fighter.
That’s not to say Ward wouldn`t beat Kessler or Froch anywhere – he would, he is simply more skilled, but there is evident recognition of the fact that TV clout, money and longer terms contract planning has a part to play in these things.
Froch can make more money without Ward than he will with him (because he is a draw, and he is less of a draw after losing to Ward again). Ward probably won`t make more money without Froch than with him (because he has no opponents, and people are sick of his hometowning).
I`ll say it again, Ward shouldn`t have let Froch take Bute. That was a golden opportunity.Posted November 17, 2013 2:39 am
Went to watch the fight, The way I see it is you have to go take the title from the champion. Ward has proved that he is the best at 168, by beating Froch and Kesseller. If ward was not sitting on top, it would be he who would have to travel to get a title shot. An example of the same thing is when Calzghe held the WBO super middle weight title he never fought in the US until late in his career. Calzaghe did that to make the big money in boxing, because just fighting in the UK was not going to set him up for retirement. Calzaghe Tried to challenge RjJ and B-hop and said he would travel to the US for those fights, but he had no fan base in the us and fighters like RJJ and B-hop could not make the money they wanted for a fight with Calzaghe. He was asked to come to the US and fight but never did until late in his career.
Then we go back to Froch just turned down the fight plain and simple so there’s no way to say Ward would or wouldn’t have went to the UK to fight. Kesseller is a shot fighter, he has no legs anymore, he looks like he’s walking around in pot holes 2 rounds into his fights now. I loved to watch Kesseller before his legs went, but now I will not watch his fights. I will remember the warrior he was, because now hes a target for the elite fighters to beat on.Posted November 17, 2013 12:45 am
He got a WIN in there TOO. Of course.Posted November 17, 2013 12:22 am
As a Ward critic, Ward looked pretty good when he wasn’t ducking below the belt line and holding and smothering. Oh, and he did get in a headbutt at the end. Of course.Posted November 17, 2013 12:11 am
Ward almost knocked his head OFF. WOW!!!Posted November 17, 2013 12:00 am
Shut up you racist prick. Ward is punching low, following through with the elbow and shoulder continuously, ducking lower than anyone I’ve ever seen before but the ref is all over Rodriguuz’s ass. Disgusting.Posted November 16, 2013 11:49 pm
Well then learn how to lower your punches…or duck just as low as he IS.Posted November 16, 2013 11:42 pm
Ward’s almost kissing the canvas he’s ducking so low. THis is highly illegal but he’s doing it everytime Rodriguez’s attacks.Posted November 16, 2013 11:41 pm
This is disgraceful. Ward is initiating most of the holding but the ref is on Rodriguez’s case.Posted November 16, 2013 11:37 pm
I see the ref is on Ward’s side. What a surprise. Ward cheats, buys the ref, the judges, this fight is rigged in Wards favor. The ref is already a disgrace.Posted November 16, 2013 11:26 pm
Ward’s holding is outrageous. And the ref warns Rodriguez? SMHPosted November 16, 2013 11:23 pm
Ward is a cheat. Cut from the same cloth as Fraud Mayweather and Wanka HopkinsPosted November 16, 2013 11:23 pm
Jesus, Rodriguez looked drained to bits on the scale at 180 this morning. This fight is a complete joke. Ward has fought two weight drained corpses in a row now.Posted November 16, 2013 11:10 pm
Ward vs Dawson
Froch vs Kessler
Tark – “His (WARD) fight with Dawson pulled more than Froch’s fight with Kessler.”
Wrong Wrong Wrong. More lies and manipulation of the truth. Ward vs Dawson pulled more viewers than Froch vs Kessler in the USA. There’s a big difference between USA and the rest of the world. Looks like you need a passport as much as Ward does. There is a big wide world out there.Posted November 16, 2013 10:54 pm
Ward is a devious lying scum bag I hope he loses.Posted November 16, 2013 10:52 pm
Tark. You’re counting the HBO numbers only. Froch is from the UK, why don’t you include the SKY Sports numbers. It was on PPV there. You might as well argue that Ward-Dawson only registered 500 views in the UK and therefore Ward-Dawson was a complete business disaster. Apple and Oranges, Tark. Apples and oranges.
I don’t have the UK numbers, but I’ll bet that those plus the HBO numbers outdid Ward-Dawson by a landslide. Plus HBO reported that they aired the Froch-Kessler fight twice and did something like 3/4 mil views. Not bad considering neither fighter was even from the US. Kinda puts Ward to shame, though, don’t it?Posted November 16, 2013 10:50 pm
urone. true, i agree with some of that. however, Floyd has always had an angle; a marketing ploy, if you will, in that he plays a really good bad guy. someone that people want to watch just to see if he will lose. he is interesting as a person because he is controversial. Ward on the other hand is trying to build an image as a wholesome, family man. and that just doesn’t sell. my advice to ward would be to get better advisors. he should have fought Bute, even if in Canada. He should travel to UK to make some good money and beat Froch, then to Denmark to do the same with Kessler. If he doesn’t have a personality or angle to sell to the people, then he’s got to make up for it some other way, or just stop complaining altogether about the boxing writers with “agendas” and stop mentioning Froch’s name. just move on. if he takes my advice, which is exactly the same thing his critics want to see, then he will improve his standing and be the natural heir to Mayweather. He is afterall the “world” champion, is he not?Posted November 16, 2013 10:46 pm
Big Al…, You’re crazy man.. Ward is the top draw at 168.. GTFOOH.
His fight with Dawson pulled more than Froch’s fight with Kessler. People want to see the best, not the worst..
But that doesn’t even matter … You get paid for being the recognized and best fighter in your division.. You have the the most desirable world 168-pound title that everybody wants — because everybody knows Ward is the best fighter in the division by far.Posted November 16, 2013 10:43 pm
Not that long ago the same thing was said about Floyd, he was boring Pacquioa is the bigger draw. It turned out to be all lies, if ward continues to win against his best possible competition his income will continue to grow without fighting in the UK, Floyd’s did.Posted November 16, 2013 10:36 pm
Well IF people don’t have much interest in Ward then they all need to learn more about Boxing. I have interest in watching the BEST.Posted November 16, 2013 10:26 pm
Here’s the thing: Ward might be the consensus #2P4P, but he doesn’t deserve to get paid like it just because. It’s not like he’s right behind Floyd. In fact, Ward is closer to the No.s 3, 4 and 5 P4P than he is closer to Floyd. The gap is that wide. And if you consider all of those fighters in all divisions, Ward might, MIGHT crack the top25 in terms of interest and drawing power.Posted November 16, 2013 10:01 pm
Ward may be at the top of the division, for sure. But in terms of drawing power and money-making ability, he might crack the top5. And that’s being generous.Posted November 16, 2013 9:52 pm
…., “In other words: Ward priced himself out.”
Pretty damned fast to draw erroneous conclusions… Why would Ward price himselft out of a big money fight with a guy he already beat hands down with a broken hand????
But Ward is the recognized top fighter in the division and he’s not going to split the take with Froch.. If they want Ward to fight in England they have to pay him appropriately to get the home field advantage.
Somebody is pricing themselves out and it isn’t Ward.Posted November 16, 2013 9:47 pm
urone. i saw Ward’s response on HBO too. It was after the Froch-Kessler rematch. Ward said he would ONLY if Froch would pay him enough. In other words: he priced himself out. He also said he would do it as a treat for the UK fans. Who the hell does he think he is? He sounded bitter and envious during that whole broadcast, like he beat Froch but Froch gets the PPVs (in UK), sellout crowds, bigger paydays and more attention. He has this “entitlement” mentality.
I’m willing to bet that he mentions Froch more than Froch mentions him.Posted November 16, 2013 9:28 pm
The training at altitude also forces you to breath deeper, because of the lower concentration of O2 in the air. it also helps you to continue to work in and O2 depleted state.
It true what you said about it not being helpful at anaerobic task, unless you train anaerobically. I’m sure you know that anaerobic workouts does very little for anaerobic activities.Posted November 16, 2013 9:16 pm
I get to reading on here where ward would not go to the UK written by the upset UK fans. When ward was asked the question on HBO if he would fight Froch in the UK he said he would be up for it. When Froch was asked if he wanted to fight ward he said “maybe later, he want to fight others before getting back in the ring with Ward”. To put it simply Froch doesn’t want none, because he already knows the like out come of another fight with Ward. Another L added to his record. And, Why would ward want to fight in the UK everyone there thinks he’s boring, they cry because he would give up his home field advantage in the super six. If I were Ward I would make the UK fans watch me on TV also, they don’t respect him or his craft. Why offer them something that they don’t really want.Posted November 16, 2013 9:07 pm
It`s the same as living at altitude/training at sea level. There’s a lot of evidence out there to support it for endurance events, not so much for stop/start high intensity stuff like boxing though.
You are inducing your body to adapt to a harsher environment though, so there is always a payoff involved.
Personally I wouldn`t advise it for boxing particularly.
I`ve been at altitude for 6 weeks across Peru and Bolivia trekking, climbing and riding before, and I can say that when I came back down to sea level my aerobic results and power output on the bike was well up over distances.
I don’t really care about the purse and who gets what because ER couldn’t make the weight..
Ward and Rodriguez are going to fight and that’s all I care about. Edwin might be tired from trying to make weight — but he’s still going to fight his ass off … He’s just not a super middleweight and he shouldn’t have been doing the hyperbaric tent BS. That can make it tougher to lose weight.
That crap isn’t good for you. It can mess with your eyes, your inner ear, and some of your organs, like your kidneys and liver. You can definitely sustain permanent damage in a 96% oxygen environment. Your capillary system is very delicate. You shouldn’t expose it to extremes unless you have a medical need to risk side effects.Posted November 16, 2013 7:44 pm
Hamster.., “Ward can do as Froch asks.”
If he asks him for a fight Ward is ready… In England or anywhere else. Bring it on… But Froch is not looking for a rematch with Ward.Posted November 16, 2013 7:32 pm
Diva Cheat Ward
1-2 learn to read. I posted 2 separate articles. Ward WANTS and TRIED/IS TYING to get 45% of Rodriguez’s purse. At no instance was I dishonest.Posted November 16, 2013 7:05 pm
BILLY NO MEDALS ALL AMERICAN BOY
ward will never be popular!!!he,s boring,he has no personalaty!!he has no b@lls,he,s ugly!!he wont fly!!!he wont go toe to toe!!!he,s on peds!!!WHO NEEDS WARD??no f#kerPosted November 16, 2013 6:43 pm
That was a pathetic attempt to bend the truth, so much for being an honest religious man. Not one mention of fighting Froch in Britain. Ward doesn’t have the sack to travel and will make peanuts until he grows a pair. Hometown fighter hiding behind his 5 fans and hometown officials. Disgrace!!!Posted November 16, 2013 6:23 pm
@Diva Cheat Ward- Its 20 % of Edwin purse that he will have to give up after coming in 2 lbs over and refusing to try to make it. I like Edwin but instead of copying earlier feel good articles (and I give him respect for how he handles himself as a father of 2 ill children) why not tell the truth what happened? This is for the REAL 168 title! Come in at weight and bring your best. No excuses!Posted November 16, 2013 6:14 pm
yeah TJ it was a great bout and i had never seen it til today. i just watched the tape on youtube full hbo telecast.
I thought it was a great fight and like the crew said credit to both fighters. I thought the judges were waaaaaay off the mark and lederman was closer in this one. I dont always agree with anyone especially lederman but i think he was closer to the mark in this fight. There doesnt exist anyone in the world that somebody will always agree with. I agree with Tark a lot and im sure he has some valid points on it. i agree with him more often than not. Tarks a good poster, good insightPosted November 16, 2013 5:43 pm
get this dude….
edwin rodriguez (e-rod here on out) defeated grachev in one round.
grachev went 12 with bute and stopped serg kovalevs current mandatory or opponent in round 8!!!!!!!
I hope this guy can get some mustard on wards chin tonight son.Posted November 16, 2013 5:40 pm
BEARS, the JIROV vs TONEY bout was one of the best Cruiserweight fights sandwich between QAWI and HOLYFIELD and ADAMEK and USS CUNNINGHAM. I haven’t seen that fight in over a decade, but I still remember the great action? JIROV fought in tiger style shorts if I remember correctly and was a hard man, which made Toney’s win more remarkable.
I will have to dig out my VHS as I don’t have this on DVD….LOL!!!Posted November 16, 2013 5:34 pm
whos really making a lot of waves at super middleweight and creating a lot of buzz and stir? not really anyone and I think the guy who has done the most creating excitement as of late has been froch with his destruction of bute and he always brings entertainment to the ring jacking ward up so hard wards mouth piece flys to the 10th row. Really whats going on at super middle to get “FIRED UP” about???? theres nothing ward is doing to get “fired up” about and there is nothing in the middle landscape involving ward that fires me up.Posted November 16, 2013 5:33 pm
Ward is champion, he can demand what he likes, but noone has to listen.
He can do as Froch asks or he can go find another fight – good luck with that.Posted November 16, 2013 5:31 pm
Oh,yes…there was a great vignette of a satellite link up, pitting MACHO CAMACHO vs ODLH for their upcoming fight.
Was good to see Macho at his bullish best…
idiot commentator actually asked ODLH if he thought Macho was going to run and then tried to ask Macho a follow up question and was basically told to F off by Hector, who would probably have chinned him if he had been in the studio.
Great days!!!!!Posted November 16, 2013 5:30 pm
I love to hear these comments about how Ward brings nothing to the table and cant make demands as if he isn’t the king of the division who will make Froch look silly again.Posted November 16, 2013 5:28 pm
Toney did have a great last round which i said was needed to draw this fight into a question. i was more with lederman on this through the 11th. great performance? maybe. domination??? not in anyway shape or form and if you say such a thing should back it up with reasons. because NOBODY on the hbo crew was saying anything other than it was a pretty even fight or hard fight to score and they were biased for toney. then ledermans score card favored jirov pretty much the whole fight. so maybe you guys saw something me the crew didnt see. maybe you guys saw the the corrupted compubox and went with that? lolPosted November 16, 2013 5:25 pm
TOTALLY AGREE with TARK…. JAMES TONEY’S last two great performances were vs JIROV and HOLYFIELD in fights he was supposed to lose at Cruiserweight and up at heavyweight (I think the decision vs Holyfield was eventually reversed as Lights Out failed a drugs test, but I can’t remember)
TONEY gave JIROV a bit of a beating towards the end in a brilliant see-saw war of a fight to capture the title and if I remember rightly Holyfield was being counterrd to buggeries by TONEY before claiming an injury to his arm….
If TONEY could have stayed disciplines, away from any sort of drugs, fast food joints, bars and his fridge, I believe he could have won a title up at Heavyweight, but like so many other talented guys! he forgot about the fact is you have go train like a demon! live like a monk and stay focused like a hawk to remain on top in this game…..
Sad to see such a pathetic, fat out of shape blimp who was announced as James TONEY in Prizefighter UK…..
On an aside to this I have been watching some old fight DVDs on my return from the gym.
I watched EDWIN RODRIGUEZ face off with JAMES McGIRT JR. On the same card AARON PRYOR JR defeated Dyah DAVIS and my thoughts are unless LA bomba has improved 100%, he is no match for SOG…..throws far too many looping wide shots and doesn’t know if he is orthodox or southpaw, the way he throws his shots…. he has a good engine, but will be busted up by SOG on that performance vs pacifist McGIRT JR.
The other DVD was ERIK MORALES winning the Tiitle off another of my favourites DANIEL ZARAGOZA in another good fight… Wow, Morales was only 20 ….also had Mayweather vs Luis Leija in his 10th fight…. basically a younger, quicker, busier, harder hitting version of the MoneyMan we see today…..
I have a huge collection of DVDS and will dust them off periodically especially if there are related fights in the offing….Posted November 16, 2013 5:21 pm
you gotta see what compubox says about jirov. RIDICULOUSNESS!!!!
it says jirov landed 12 punches!!!!!
BHAHAHAAHAHAAHAHAH!!!!!Posted November 16, 2013 5:20 pm
Im not a fan of running and anticlimatic boxing to decisions. It would be nice to see those types of fighters forced to fight in say old school ways fight til theres a winner. your either a “fight fan” or a point fan. i find the running, pot shotting, fighters to be bereft of much entertainment as i like fights. If i wanted to watch running, i would watch running. lol. Thats why i dont find may weather very entertaining. low stoppage rates, no mustard on his punches and pot shots and how high is his punch out put? not to mention the mostly terrible match making for a guy who received so much praise and you struggle to identify his best opponent. its possible to be a great boxer and be entertaining at the same time. Its the style im disparaging from an entertainment point of view. empathetically, i totally understand mayweather and i think it can be appreciated for other reasons. its definitely skillful, mayweathers is preserving himself, getting wins, and making a lot of money. theres a lot to be said for it in the defensive metric of boxing. but at the end of the day im a fight fan dude so thats how im looking at it and thats what i appreciate. Not floyds dull fights. I wanna see floyd get BLASTED.Posted November 16, 2013 5:17 pm
lederman has it 105-103 for jirov through 11.
awesome last round and jirov lets it all out and gets caught and dropped in the last few seconds
lederman ends up with a draw. great fight. there was absolutely no domination here and i felt like jirov scored more. lets see these scores
these judges are garbage!!!!!!
ohhhhhhhhh HBO showed the compubox at the end and it malfunctioned!!!!! bhahahahaahah and look at the ridiculous scores from the judges!!!!! was the fix in!!!!?????
check out the hbo compubox either malfunctioned or deliberately b.s.’ed in toneys favor. one number is clearly a type o and the crew has to point it out!!!! have you ever seen comubox malfunction???? ME EITHER!!!! ABSOLUTE B.S. on that night. poor jirov not getting a fair shakePosted November 16, 2013 5:07 pm
Right.., I guess I’m not a brawling fan, because it’s not an intelligent way to fight. Mesi got messed up in the Jirov fight because he didn’t know what the Hell he was doing at that level of competition. He didn’t have finished skills. Jirov was an Olympic Gold Medal winner but never had finished skills either.
I just hope Kovalev gets the opportunity to meet Ward, Stevenson, and any other good boxers who come along in the next 5 years or so. When you have formidable skills it isn’t easy to get fights unless you can pay your opponent millions.Posted November 16, 2013 4:58 pm
jirov BLASTS toney about dropping him in the 11th and dominates the round. unless toney hows an impressive round i dont see how this fight gets given to toney. smells like a fixPosted November 16, 2013 4:57 pm
lampley says fairly even through 11 and will raise the stock of both fighters and steward says yes it raises the credibility and stock of both fightersPosted November 16, 2013 4:55 pm
what a fight round 10 another brutal round in this classic!!! brutal offensive masterpiece in jirov vs toney.Posted November 16, 2013 4:53 pm
Watching jirov vs toney there is absolutely no indication of toney outlanding jirov. round 9 was ridiculus beating of toney at the hands of jirov prompting lampley to say “beating him, beating him, beating him” great classic fight through 9 lederman has it 86-84 jirov.Posted November 16, 2013 4:50 pm
I would bet on kovalev to beat anyone at light heavy right now. would love to see kovalev vs adonis. then kovalev vs ward and i will take kovalev in BOTH!!!!!Posted November 16, 2013 4:44 pm
Im not calling jirov kovalev son. I’m saying i was a fan of jirov. total warrior who always let his hands go and has a jem of a fight against toney and joe mesci. nowhere am i comparing the two. Im just watching some classics today and right now its jirov vs toney. I’m through 7 rounds and this fight is hard to score and the hbo crew including lampley and steward say the same thing. jirov has now been deducted on lowblows. You know i know kovalevs a BADASSPosted November 16, 2013 4:43 pm
Bears.., Jirov was no Kovalev. Jirov’s defense was full of holes. I never thought Jirov had a prayer in Hell vs an ATG like Toney. Toney outpunched Jirov by 138 punches and won by a mile, but Kovalev would have beaten Toney at his best.
I don’t think people realize how good Kovalev is at this particular time.Posted November 16, 2013 4:40 pm
This is what happens when you are not professional. Terrible on Rodriguezs partPosted November 16, 2013 4:39 pm
Diva Cheat Ward
Ward wants 45% of Rodriguez’s purse. Rodriguez has two sick children to care for.
Rodriguez is inspired by ‘the fighter’ in his twins
Ever wonder why Edwin Rodriguez fights the way he does? Why the rising super middleweight contender is willing to fight prospect after prospect? Why he looks like he’s fighting for his life every time he steps into the ring?
It’s because he’s fighting for two lives, his twin children Serena and Edwin Jr., who were born premature after just 23 weeks and both suffer from degrees of cerebral palsy.
“Just being able to see my kids fight to stay alive and how they fight every day, that’s what keeps motivating me,” said Rodriguez (21-0, 14 knockouts), who fights unbeaten puncher Jason Escalera on Sept. 29 at Foxwoods Resort in Mashantucket, Conn.
Serena and Edwin Jr. were born six years ago on the day their father will headline the HBO Boxing After Dark broadcast against Escalera (13-0-1, 12 KOs).
Rodriguez, the 2005 U.S. amateur champ and 2006 national Golden Gloves champ, had yet to turn pro when he and his pregnant wife, Stephanie, learned during a routine checkup that she was dilated and about to give birth premature.
“I had regular pre-natal care with five weeks in and everything was completely normal,” said Stephanie Rodriguez, who has a graduate degree in counseling and works at a local elementary school.
“Everything was normal the entire pregnancy, and during that regular appointment, a test noticed I was showing signs of premature labor, which I wasn’t aware of. I had no physical issues whatsoever. It should have been fine. This is an epidemic, and something I found out afterwards.”
The doctors explained the severity of the situation. They spelled out all the grim possibilities of giving birth this prematurely. Edwin and Stephanie never said a word to each other. Instead, they darted one another a look, a quick glance that intimated they were going to do this.
“There was no question whether or not we were going to try to have the children,” Stephanie said.“So many children are extremely disabled through premature child birth, and we didn’t have time to make a decision, and I’m glad we chose in our hearts to have the children. We’re really, really lucky to have the children—and basically living moment to moment.”
The moment the couple learned about the dire circumstances of their twins is etched in Rodriguez’s mind.
“We didn’t think it was as bad as it really was,” he recalled. “The doctors explained to us that Stephanie would be on bed rest and continue checking her. The intensive care unit (ICU) people came down and told us she was able to go after 23 weeks and three days. You can say we started to get these hints that this might not play out that good. They started to tell us, being young parents, we still had our lives ahead of us. They said it might be an idea to let them rest in our arms and let them go.”
Edwin didn’t want to believe what he was hearing. He went through the gamut of emotions, although nothing seemed to register. It all seemed so surreal. What pulled him back was when a klatch of doctors who came down to discuss to Edwin and Stephanie other possibilities.
Termination was a suggestion.
Not to Edwin and Stephanie. Right then they wanted to have their children fight for their lives. No talk was needed. Just a look said it all.
Serena was born first, two minutes older than her brother, Edwin Jr. They were one pound and three ounces. They were green and tiny, small enough to fit in the palm of Rodriguez’s hand, though he wasn’t able to touch them.
Rodriguez, who was in the delivery room when they were born, remembers “So many things going on in my head. I saw the doctors freaking and the doctors were rushing around. We didn’t even get a moment to hold them. The doctors wanted to get them on oxygen right away.
“I remember holding Stephanie’s hand and she kept asking me what was going on, what was going on. I had to play the role that everything was going to be okay, everything was going to be okay.”
Everything was not okay.
Within the first few days of her birth, Serena had to undergo surgery to repair a hole in her heart. The children also had to undergo additional surgery to correct their retinas. And Edwin Jr., who still needed a machine to breathe, was struggling.
One doctor suggested that Edwin be a ‘DNR,’ meaning Do Not Resuscitate if his heart stopped again. They were told he had a zero chance of survival.
“We weren’t sure what to do, whether we were being selfish and putting Edwin through hell or not, but he kept fighting, he kept coming back,” Edwin said. “His heart stopped a few times. Each day that passed, we started to feel better. They were gaining weight and getting bigger, but it got a little scary there.”
Stephanie recalls the ordeal of those touch-and-go early weeks of their twins’ lives.
“They both coded many, many times and they had to be resuscitated, they both underwent spinal taps and were both re-hospitalized a number of times,” she said. “We were strongly encouraged to take Edwin Jr. off life support and we did think about his quality of life.
“But we both were at the point where we felt comfortable where Edwin was really optimistic all of the time. We got through it. They’re both miracles.”
Those days were tougher than anything Rodriguez had experienced – or would experience – in the ring.
“I don’t really like to talk about it. It brings back emotions that I don’t want to live through again, and I don’t want to feel sorry for my kids. No parent wants to see their child die. But I was helpless, and it’s the worst feeling in the world, to see your kids struggle every day to breathe, and you can’t do anything to change it. It’s the worse feeling in the world. I kept saying this was going to be okay, this was going to be okay. I started to believe it.”
Rodriguez had to wait two weeks before he could touch his children. He was dressed in hospital scrubs when nurses gently placed them on his chest.
The twins were in NICU for 120 days. When they came home they weighed four pounds and were put on oxygen and a heart rate monitor. Because their immunity systems were fragile, the home was quarantined the first four months. The twins had home nursing care, although Edwin had to get up at least 20 times a night to fix the oxygen tubes attached to their noses. The twins would reach two before they were able to breathe on their own.
There was no time for Rodriguez to think about capping his excellent amateur career during these early months with the children at home. Prior to their premature birth, Rodriguez had a realistic shot at making the 2008 U.S. Olympic squad.
He still had his dream of being a professional boxer and fortunately his amateur reputation was enough to garner the attention of promoter Lou DiBella and manager Larry Army.
“First of all, he was a terrific amateur with an explosive, tremendous offense, and I also knew his story, with the two little babies that weren’t supposed to live,” DiBella said. “Larry Army kept him active and caring for two desperately ill children, that showed me Edwin’s character, and impressed me as much as his ability. I always believed he was among the best amateurs in the country.
“You have obstacles in life, and I liked the way he handled his obstacles. He believed boxing would be the way out for his family and it made me want to sign him and Larry Army wanted me to sign him. He’s a tremendous talent and he’s an offensive machine whose defense is getting better. His quality in the ring gets better and better, and he’s established himself to fight HBO-level fights. He can beat just about anybody. He’s 27 and we want to increase the level of his opposition with a career-defining fight. I really believe he’s a fight or two away from the top of the division.”
And when Rodriguez gets to the top he has no doubt about his ability to persevere through adversity.
“This whole experience has helped me big time as a fighter and as a person,” he said. “Against Kevin Engel, I was beating him. In the third round, I got a little overconfident and I came out looking for the kill. I got careless. I got caught with a left hook and I got buzzed. I held on tight and pretended I wasn’t hurt. But I was dizzy.
“I started to think about my kids and what’s going to happen if I lose. The first thing that came to my mind was what I’m fighting for, what I’m always fighting for.”
It is a fight that will continue long after he hangs up the gloves.
Edwin Jr. suffers from cerebral palsy and is autistic; Serena has mild cerebral palsy and speaks very low. Edwin was in a wheelchair until he was three.
Whereas Serena has caught up to children her age, Edwin Jr. will need attention as he gets older.
“They are a living miracle, and it’s definitely a challenge every day,” Rodriguez said. “My son is in a life class and he needs a little break. My last training camp, I heard that he was talking and every little thing that he’s able to do is a joy, every little thing they’re both able to do is a joy.”Posted November 16, 2013 4:38 pm
lol!! lampley calling the fight says jirov vs toney is like a cruiserweight version of gatti ward. hmmm…..definitely a good fightPosted November 16, 2013 4:37 pm
Diva Cheat Ward
The fight in jeopardy now. Apparently diva Ward wants to mess with Rodriguez’s head even more. Rodriguez is already weight drained, fighting in Ward’s home of California with three Californian judges and a Californian referee, the same referee who allowed Ward to butt Kessler at will and tie him up with 88 illegal clinches. And Rodriguez is doing VADA testing, whereas Ward conveniently declined.
Ward-Rodriguez: Rules Issue Places Fight in Jeopardy
***********has obtained a letter that was issued to the World Boxing Association. The letter was sent by Josh Dubin, the attorney for WBA super middleweight champion Andre Ward. A serious issue has come up with respect to the penalty being paid by Ward’s opponent, Edwin Rodriguez.
Rodriguez (24-0, 16KOs) was set to challenge Ward (26-0, 14KOs) for the WBA super middleweight championship. However, he was unable to make the super middleweight limit of 168-pounds at Friday’s weigh-in. Rodriguez came in at two-pounds over, at 170-pounds, while Ward easily made weight at 167.8-pounds.
The fight takes place later tonight at the Citizens Business Bank Arena in Ontario. It was said yesterday that Rodriguez would have to fork over 20% of his purse [a cut of $200,000 dollars] and he would have to take part in a secondary weigh-in on Saturday morning – where he would be allowed to weigh a max of 180-pounds [which he made at 179.8].
Apparently Ward and his team are not satisfied, and did not agree, with the 20% penalty on Rodriguez.
The letter references the WBA’s own rules, which directs Rodriguez to pay 45% of his purse.
According to the WBA’s rule E 9e – ” a boxer who does not make weight after the two hour extension shall forfeit 35% of his purse .” The rule later states ” a boxer who refuses to attempt to make weight during the two hour extension shall forfeit 45% of his purse .”
Ward’s team wants the WBA to enforce their rules on Rodriguez, which at a minimum directs him to pay a 35% penalty. Because he never stepped on the official scale during the two hour period, Ward and his team believe Rodriguez never made an attempt to shed off the two pounds – which, according to the WBA’s rules, makes him a 45% offender.
When reached for comment on the situation, Dubin told ********** the following:
“This fight was for the WBA world title. The only reason it is no longer for the WBA world title is because Rodriguez failed to make the weight. The rules still apply, because the rules make provisions for this very situation, and they are extraordinarily clear on what’s to occur. And we expect the rules to be applied. What’s wrong with boxing right now is that too often the rules are not applied. The rules are the rules. Andre Ward and Edwin Rodriguez both agreed to pay sanctioning fees. It was in their bout agreement that this fight would be for the WBA world title and the WBA rules apply,” Dubin told *********
“The rules are very clear that there is a penalty [that directs the offender] to pay a bare minimum of 35%. We have reason to believe that he never even tried to make the weight during the two hour period because he never got back on the scale. He should be fined 45%, that’s what the rules say because he never made an effort to make the weight during that two hour period. There is a rule where the athletic commission withholds 20%. We need some relief in-between 20% and the 45% that [Ward is] owed. And Andre Ward is not going to step in the ring tonight if the WBA isn’t going to apply their rules.”Posted November 16, 2013 4:36 pm
yep cleverly beat murat too!!!Posted November 16, 2013 4:33 pm
Clevely was nothing??? Cleverly beat both mandatory challengers for Hopkins and Stevenson didn’t he? Plus he was undefeated LHW Champion.
Cleverly felt so secure about his skills, he confidently stepped up and offered Kovalev a title shot… The great Gogue, Joseph Herron’s friend and favorite prognosticator, warned Kovalev to “stay off the ropes and out of the pocket” because he thought Cleverly was going to be so strong on the inside, and said Cleverly would outbox Kovalev and win a UD.
Okay…. most experts thought Kovalev was going to kill Cleverly. That’s because he’s the best LHW fighter since Michael Spinks.Posted November 16, 2013 4:31 pm
3-1 jirov through 4. toney had round 3Posted November 16, 2013 4:28 pm
2 nothing jirov over toney through 2 rounds. i always liked jirov. jirov vs joe macey (sp) was an AWESOME WARPosted November 16, 2013 4:20 pm
@joke,thats the best joke ive heard for months!!!hahaha,ward would never go in with Kov!!it aint just flying he,s scared of,lolPosted November 16, 2013 4:20 pm
Looks like some fans are content with Rodriguez coming in over weight for a title fight. That s a shame.Posted November 16, 2013 4:17 pm
I’m watching a classic. jirov vs toney. please dont interupt me unless you have something to say thats worth a damnPosted November 16, 2013 4:16 pm
RAY GORDEN REID
Kovalev ko,s wardPosted November 16, 2013 4:15 pm
i think people are pretty impressed with the destruction of cleverly at the hands of kovalev for many reasons. cleverly has never been stopped and i dont know that he’s ever even been knocked down. cleverly was undefeated and even defeated bellew who fellow light heavy champ adonis is fighting next and kovalev is on that card. Kovalev is facing the harder puncher here.
People are impressed and rightfully so. as i said, if you dont know kovalev it can only be for two possible reasons. so which one is it?Posted November 16, 2013 4:11 pm
Stop acting like cleverly is a good name for kovalev to have on his record! Cleverly was easily the weakest champ at LH…cleverly fought nobodies himself.Posted November 16, 2013 4:02 pm
If kovalev is a completely unknown russian to you than you are either a) not much of a boxing fan or b) a black sack gargler. neither of which are good btw
here is what dan rafael of espn has on his ranking page to say of kovalev.
Kovalev, a punching machine from Russia, went to Nathan Cleverly’s home turf in Wales to challenge for his title on Aug. 17 and destroyed him in scary fashion. In Kovalev’s HBO debut, he dominated the fight, dropping Cleverly twice in the third round before stopping him in the fourth round with a violent series of blows. Kovalev’s power and precision are scary. He will make his first defense against Ismayl Sillakh (21-1) on the undercard of champion Adonis Stevenson’s mandatory defense against Tony Bellew in Quebec City in an effort to build to an eventual Stevenson-Kovalev showdown.
fighters like the klitschkos, pacman, canelo, 3g, mathyse, donaire, adonis, kovalev, and sometime haye just bring fireworks and brutality to the table.Posted November 16, 2013 3:54 pm
Jaber, I see what you did there. Heh, heh. Warddke…Ottke, which is it? They both stay refuse to leave home. And I predict both will have similar black clouds hanging over their legacies.Posted November 16, 2013 3:50 pm
Kovalev? Who the hell mentioned kovalev he is a complete NO NAME. Please guys wake up Froch is a much bigger fight than some completely unknown ruskie.Posted November 16, 2013 3:43 pm
the boring ward no,s once he steps outa the u s of A, he,s guna be exposed the pill popping punkPosted November 16, 2013 3:39 pm
hey gonzo!! Long time no see man!!! where have you been?!!Posted November 16, 2013 3:33 pm
GONZO OF NAZARETH
Ward isd taking PEDs, hes a cheatPosted November 16, 2013 3:26 pm
Ward is getting the s.h.i.i.i.t.e negotiated out of him here. He is used to having everything his own way – hometown, headbutt friendly refs, being allowed rehydration clauses, no CIR testing.
He thinks he can talk Froch into doing what he wants, but he can`t.
If he wants the Froch fight, he`ll have it in the UK, for the purse Froch offers, when Froch wants it, with mandatory CIR testing.
Froch doesn`t particularly want the fight, and as a fan I`d rather see Froch in exciting fights with people like Golovkin, so Ward is in a weak negotiating position.
This is Wards own fault for leaving Bute to Froch.
Wards a dirty fighter too. Once ward starts getting lit up his head starts becoming a weapon. It’s a motif in wards career. Who among you can dispute it? Right when a fighter starts coming in with his face down and his head angled at a fighter they should be sternly warned and then deducted. Styles like hopikins and wards should not be perpetuated in boxing. It’s ridiculus and its basic boxing 101 NO NOPosted November 16, 2013 3:17 pm
If froch could hurt ward again like he did in the last round and hurt him often froch could stop ward. I just think the odds of this happening are unlikely but both of these fighters COULD stop the other it’s just the odds of ward stopping froch are higher.Posted November 16, 2013 3:10 pm
Ward must have some serious faith in whatever new formula Richard Conte is pumping into him to go around declaring knockouts!Posted November 16, 2013 3:09 pm
Ward probably could ko froch. froch is not the most interesting fight for ward, kovalev happens to be the most interesting.
That being said froch had the best highlight reel in their fight and provided the excitement and landed the best punch of the fight in the last round or second to last round when he jacked wards jaw and sent his mouth piece flying into the 10th row.
I have to think there are more exciting fights froch can give us rather than donating money to ward who needs to be FORCED into taking the best fights available. I would rather watch Froch fight other fighters if you ask me and i would rather watch ward fight other fighters NAMELY/CHIEFLY serg THE KRUSHER kovalev. Frochs got money to make. Froch does not need ward. Ward has NO MONEY TO MAKE. Ward NEEDS the ALWAYS ENTERTAINING FROCH. Froch has the LEVERAGE here. May froch do, whatever the hell froch wants to do irregardless of ward and wards wishes.Posted November 16, 2013 3:08 pm
the sooner wards of the scene the better for boxing,he,s like a dog with no dik,Posted November 16, 2013 3:04 pm
Perhaps Froch could beat Ward in an old style 15 rounder, but over 12 rounds – not a chance!Posted November 16, 2013 3:01 pm
RAY GORDEN REID
GOVALEV,KOPosted November 16, 2013 2:52 pm
plus he could always catch a bus to the uk,you only gota look at the guy and your yawningPosted November 16, 2013 2:51 pm
part time ward,needs to up the anti,the guy sucks!theres more personality in wet f@rtPosted November 16, 2013 2:45 pm
Public enemy again really?, my man you sound like juanma after the second salido fight!, drop it my man mikey must have beat your favorite fighter caus you hate that guy, like b hop said weight doesn’t matter at this level!Posted November 16, 2013 2:29 pm
ward is an exiteing fighter just like wlad clenchko.Posted November 16, 2013 2:14 pm
Get a passport.Posted November 16, 2013 2:12 pm
Ward has grown on me over the last couple of years. He’s a classy guy and THE Champ at 168. Hope he whups Froch in a rematch … Although I will always maintain that Calzaghe wud hav edged SOG in points:)Posted November 16, 2013 2:04 pm
Warddke has no passportPosted November 16, 2013 2:01 pm
DEGALE is a total prick.Posted November 16, 2013 1:59 pm
Ward could do with fighting abroad for once instead of staying in America, froch makes a point of going to people’s back yard to fight, take ward out the mfort of fighting at home and I see the rematch being much closer…however is still see ward winning but not by ko no way. I think groves has a good chance of an upset to be honest. Degale is one for the future, another year or 2 and I see him squaring off against ward if he keeps his momentum going :)Posted November 16, 2013 1:57 pm
It’s Me, Ernie
“Overseas” to Ward is the other side of the Bay Bridge…Posted November 16, 2013 1:32 pm
Just read the article. Wow. Ward seemed to be saying that he might have just as many fans in the UK as Froch? Did I get that right? And he’s comparing his US viewer ratings to Froch’s US viewer ratings? How bout include Froch’s UK ratings also since it was PPV there too? I’m sure Froch’s combined US and UK ratings for that single fight will blow Ward away. And let’s not even talk about paid attendance. I think Ward might be the delusional one.Posted November 16, 2013 1:16 pm
The Dominican pulled the old Mexican Weight Gain trick like Mikey Garcia did vs JuanMa and came in Heavy lucky Goosen was smart enough to get a clause in the Contract that he couldn’t gain over 180lbs for the actual fight.. Which is what is needed to prevent these Mexicans like Mikey Garcia, Canelo and Chavez Jr. from Ballooning up several Weight Classes come fight night.Posted November 16, 2013 1:15 pm
Ward seems butthurt that Froch has been getting more attention, more money and more people at his fights. Ward is better for sure, but he has made some colossal blunders with his career so far — turning down the Bute fight, refusing to travel, trying to get out of his contract with promoter, unwilling to move up in weight to make better fights. At one point I just thought this guy was self-destructing and imploding. Let’s see what happens.Posted November 16, 2013 1:08 pm
Love Frochs do or die style he is a real warrior but he will never beat an Andre Ward, nobody will. Froch should not let himself down anymore by claiming Ward is afraid of him, its just silly and a bit disappointing coming from a warrior like him…… Still love yee…Posted November 16, 2013 12:58 pm
He has already said if Froch shows him the money he will go to the UK and fight him. Problem is they aren’t offering enough money. If you really want to rematch someone that beat you and that is the Champion you will offer what they want if you really think you can win. In this case he is using money as a way of saying he does not want to fight.Posted November 16, 2013 12:38 pm
Of course he would beat Froch again and again. But Froch is nevertheless a true warrior who has my respect. It’s just that Ward is a better boxer.Posted November 16, 2013 12:22 pm
Ward will always beat Froch, but Froch would have to go over to the states for it to happen, Mr.Ward clearly has a problem leaving and fighting in other countries, good fighter but a coward to leave the US.Froch KOs Groves inside 8.Posted November 16, 2013 12:07 pm
Demon- wats the point in paying for something that doesn’t work (froch) lolPosted November 16, 2013 11:50 am
Andre ward took froch to school, and for froch to still say ward isn’t nothing ward can’t sell that is all irrelevant, inside the ring where it matters you looked like a sparring partner for ward!Posted November 16, 2013 11:48 am
ward will never fight in the uk,as they have real drug testing over there.Posted November 16, 2013 11:46 am
Im a Brit, Froch cannot compete with skill on THAT level no matter how tough he is said to be. Groves is going to stun a lot of people next week, this boys path has been planned very well and is a seriously determined young man. He wins by Decision, the Ward rematch is not going to happen.Posted November 16, 2013 11:43 am
Uhgt oh, some Brits are gonna get their feelings hurt now.Posted November 16, 2013 10:52 am
Wards right he was in the pocket and beat froch inside and out and froch had nothingPosted November 16, 2013 10:45 am
Holmen…Froch getting ko by the touch of a feather…what kind of weed you smoking…prehaps angel dust? Froch has a rock solid chin…Ward beats him skill wise,and wins the fight…but Froch getting k.o. by the touch of a feather….nonsence!!!Posted November 16, 2013 10:33 am
Froch is losing to Groves so the Ward fight will go up in smoke,
Poor frochy was made to look like a fool vs Ward last time out, Ward was just playing with him, next time froch gets Koed…Posted November 16, 2013 10:23 am
Ward brings plent of money to the table if he fights in Oakland. Not like Froch is bringing money to the table unless he fights in his countryPosted November 16, 2013 10:22 am
Ward brings no money to the table. He needs Froch. If they fight it should be a 90-10 cut to Froch.Posted November 16, 2013 10:15 am
FROCH, YOU GOT SCHOOLED ..YOU MAD BRO?Posted November 16, 2013 9:34 am
“Blah blah blah,” said Ward, quietly ripping up another passport application and throwing it in the bin.Posted November 16, 2013 8:45 am
That´ll be the end of days – Froch getting KOéd by the touch of a feather !Posted November 16, 2013 8:18 am
That´ll be the day – Froch to be KOéd by the touch of a feather :-)Posted November 16, 2013 8:17 am