RIGO is on the P4P list and is the most talented figher on that list. Best skills to enter the ring and did all that in 12 fights, if memory serves I believe Ward didnt do anything note worthy his first 4 and half years …. scaryPosted November 19, 2013 6:10 pm
Ward is weak and overrated. B fighter in my book.$$$$$$$$Posted November 19, 2013 6:08 pm
johnnycakes fked vito
ward is good but overrated.Posted November 19, 2013 5:42 pm
TJ…, “TARK….EVEN today, if LA BOMBA fought MIKKEL KESSLER, I would favour Kessler to win and probably by stoppage.”
Ward was a lot younger, (20 fights) and not nearly as masterful, when he fought Kessler.. And he beat Mikkel as bad or worse than he beat Edwin.. He stopped him after winning every round.. They were both shutouts but Ward is a much better fighter today.
At least Rodriguez landed a few good punches on Ward… That’s more than Kessler did… Kessler was one of the worst boxers I’ve ever seen at this level …
And actually I think Kessler did his best against Ward — Rodriguez did his absolute worst… He and his corner had their heads up their asses.Posted November 19, 2013 5:05 pm
Donaire is good but overrated.Posted November 19, 2013 9:16 am
Rigo IS on the P4P list SO please learn more about Boxing.Posted November 19, 2013 4:34 am
Public, Ward is nowhere the talent of RIGO and again we are just comparing two olympians with very different roads, RIGO by far a brighter starPosted November 19, 2013 12:36 am
Public, how does a guy call RIGO not have earned a spot on that list after picking apart the great Donaire. Lets really get real, RIGO shows up after 2 gold olympian medals and 7 world gold, becomes champ in 7 fights then masters Donaire who had not been beaten in i think 9 or 10 years, then becomes fighter of the year only to fall to the hands of RIGO two days later and RIGO is nowhere to be seen on that list. BSPosted November 19, 2013 12:34 am
public,,,, no I dont think that at all. I think that a bunch of old fogies put together the P4P list. the list is for political match making, its a business, but dont put all your cards in the hat thinking that all on that P4P list belong there, and that includes ward.Posted November 19, 2013 12:30 am
“Zack – Rodriguez weighed over 190+lbs ”
Public Enemy, how do you know how much Edwin weighed? I don’t recall his fight night weight being announced before the fight.Posted November 18, 2013 11:48 pm
zack – Rodriquez is 10 times better then the Puerto Rican Angulo Rocky Martinez who Mikey Garcia fought yet all the Mikey fans are now saying he’s a P4P great? Do you think Rocky Martinez was better then Rodriguez? come on lets be real..Posted November 18, 2013 11:32 pm
Public Enemy. With all do respect, c-mon. Rodriguez couldnt beat ward if he was a heavy Wt. The dude is horrible. Ward needs to be ripping these no names up. Ward been in the fight game for a nice run now and who is on his resume? weaksauce mix. Enemy who the heck do we wathch on the boob tube years from now, ward vs green, ward vs kessler , ward vs bika, ward vs abe, ward vs Dawson how bout ward vs miranda, geeeeeeeeeezus man, these are joke matches and will never be cared about even two years from now let alone 20 years.Posted November 18, 2013 11:16 pm
Zack – Rodriguez weighed over 190+lbs and Ward hanlded with with a lot of technique. Ward hit him with everything wobbled him a few times but the size made a difference. It that were Canelo Ward was hitting or Chavez Cheato Jr. both would’ve been KO’d.. easily by Ward.Posted November 18, 2013 8:49 pm
Boxtradam, When Ward KOes or outright destroys fighters like Adonis or oldman B-hop then talk to us, Rodruguez – hahahha you must be joking,Posted November 18, 2013 8:21 pm
Boxtradamus. It seems that your a true Ward fan. I dont want to hurt your feelings,,, but ward couldnt KO a frozen stiff on his best day. I laugh at Ward’s resume of bums. This bum list is good for SOG, made him champ.Posted November 18, 2013 8:19 pm
P4P list means nada. That list dont tell anything. Ward is P4P for what, Dawson- Froch- who this Rodriguez bum? if thats how to hit the P4P list then what a laugh.Posted November 18, 2013 8:16 pm
Being #2 P4P in the World is called having star results. IF you just want to see knockouts go watch Kimbo Slice fight another bum off the streets.Posted November 18, 2013 8:10 pm
Ward cant hurt a man who has no legs and no arms. Ward couldnt knock out frosty the snowman. Ward beat Rodruquez who- thats my point.Posted November 18, 2013 7:56 pm
Public Enemy, are you empressed with the Rodriguez fight? Ward should had KOed that guy in 2 rounds. Problem, ward is not star quality .. hence . no star resultsPosted November 18, 2013 7:50 pm
Shredmond, Ward has no power. People dont want the bore tour like the 10 rounds with sucked up Dawson. Dawson at his strong weight was ripped up in one round by Adonis, thats what we want to see— not boreville and holdem headbuttem .Posted November 18, 2013 7:44 pm
We have heard the SAME critique about Mayweather in regards to Ward “he cannot hurt anyone” COOL that means his opponents should be able to BOLDLY walk thru them with NO worries of being flattened and simply impose their will…. Right!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SOOOOOOOOOOOOO Why have 72 boxers between Ward and Mayweather been unable to generate a SINGLE victory against these two hapless power deficient fighters….??????? We have seen Canelo, Cotto, Oscar, Shane, Corrales, Froch, Kessler, Rodriguez, Abraham and Bika ALL KO guys yet the all LOST to the aforementioned two UNDEFEATED Champs and none put even put them on their rears…Fact is that these guys SKILLS are what puts them above the REST, Boxing is RIFE with guys who can knock you out at any moment thats why its impressive that these guys can face World Class, Championship, HOF level competitors and never take a beating…. These excuses are NOT gonna fly and the message is NOT gonna change…. Ward is a BEAST he took two of his BEST opponents out within the distance, turned Kessler into a crybaby and kicked Dawsons azz right back up to 175 after he DARED challenge for the SMW Title…. “I’m a BOSS” Rick Ross Voice!Posted November 18, 2013 1:55 pm
Fight Aficianado, EXPLAIN to us how 160 is deeper than 168 ABSENT the fact that Ward cleaned it out…?????? Froch and Kessler were able to become World Champions on MORE than one occasion and the boxers at 168 due to the tourney ect have ALL fought eachother… Lucien Bute was drawn into the fray even though he was not part of the tourney and Froch took his measure and BUSTED him down quick… Andre Ward has faced and defeated Froch, Kessler, Bika, Rodriguez, and Abraham…. All ranked guys who have between them mixed it up with EVERYONE including Joe Calzaghe pre retirement… At 160 we have GGG who has faced NO ONE and then Martinez who has fought pretty much most of the available comp with Golovkin and Quillin outstanding… There is MORE business to be sorted at 160 than there is at 168 because Ward is the CLEAR #1 and Froch the CLEAR #2 not a GGG type #2 who’s rep is MOSTLY based on Mythology, Macklin and trumped up MOJO gotta love my wordplay with the “M’s”…..If GGG wants to stay at 160 and actually take out the REAL hierarchy at the weight Martinez, Quillian, Barker ect then fine… But STOP billing him as this MASSIVE multi-weight threat when he has NOT won a SINGLE bout outside of 160 nor has he made made inroads into the DEEP end of the pool at 160…FACE it Stevens was a DROPOFF from Macklin….Posted November 18, 2013 1:47 pm
Nice one Two Piece, you are a class act, kindly explain how you’ve come to the assumption that I’m a coward? For your info., I left Zimbabwe in 1983, by my own steam, nothing to do with ” Bob ”
Anonymous is a joke. He’s an angry little white guy who has no one. And every time he thinks he might have someone, they are crushed by a black fighter. It’s so sad. he’s so sad.Posted November 18, 2013 1:18 pm
Ward licks his lips every 10 seconds.Posted November 18, 2013 9:14 am
Ward is a joke, all he does is fight in his own backyard with hometown refs and bought judges. If he’s so good he should do what other TRULY great champions of the past have done and step out of the USA and fight on foreign shores and prove himself! He’s exactly the same as Mayweather, a cherrypicking con artist. Ward and Mayweather are joke. If Ward thinks he’s so great why doesn’t he move down to 160 and take on Golovkin? Because he would lose! And he knows it. And so does Mayweather at 154. Ward and Mayweather the biggest con artists in boxing today.Posted November 18, 2013 6:42 am
Yup. The KING refuses to leave his Castle. Now that means someone has to emerge who has enough balls to go into Ward’s Castle and TAKE the crown OFF his head. Dawson was the only one who had the balls but Ward beheaded his azz. And now everyone else his TERRIFIED of coming into Ward’s domain.Posted November 18, 2013 2:44 am
He stopped him from earning any points on the scorecards. Thats called being the UD MASTER.Posted November 18, 2013 2:22 am
Has to be said – Rodriguez…..he was s.h.i.t.e.
If you are not stopping trash like that you are not p4p anythingPosted November 17, 2013 10:59 pm
It’s Me, Ernie
Goosen’s jacket was watermelon, just sayin…Posted November 17, 2013 10:07 pm
Its funny how it’s always the fker who is actually the dirty fighter always crying about the other fighter being Dirty in the Ring trying to sway the Ref, Judges and Fans.. like Hopkins, Hatton, Chavez jr, Canelo, Mikey Garcia and Rodriguez. as if we’re not all watching them fight dirty.Posted November 17, 2013 9:03 pm
My wife said goosens pink jacket had more personality then wardPosted November 17, 2013 8:54 pm
Ward is good but can’t sell seats. A lot of empty seats there. Small arena and the promoters and hbo had Tyson there and sugar ray Leonard plus a few more to draw some fans. Ward is not fan friendly and he frowns to much. He needs a personality coach and a good pr team . He doesn’t sell and would be the b side of ticket sales if he fought ggg at the gardenPosted November 17, 2013 8:53 pm
Ward is a really good fighter and I don’t know about you guys but I never want to see Rodriguez in a boxing ring ever again… He talked a lot of verbal feces only to put on a piss poor anemic performance…Posted November 17, 2013 8:20 pm
He’s already the best 168lb fighter. If he does that at light heavy then he will be considered great.Posted November 17, 2013 6:46 pm
to scared to fly
ward will never be a great,nout but a boring winging tw@t,that bums his way through fightsPosted November 17, 2013 6:12 pm
And no Ward is not cherry picking, as a matter of fact Rodriguez was pushed on Ward. Ward was actually trying to take a lesser fighter but HBO wouldn’t have that.Posted November 17, 2013 5:30 pm
Sorry but Dawson called Ward out, not the other way around. And he called him out at 168. Wards resume is anything but weak. Are you talking about the same Stevens that lost to Wilson? Same one that fought a very tough fight against George? Dawson was done by the time he fought Stevens. After fighting Hopkins and Ward. Dawson will never be a champ again. Heck probably won’t be a titlest. Heck he may never fight again. And I bet you can ask a bunch of people and 90% would rather say they would rather get KOd quickly that beat up and humiliated over a distant fight. And to say Ward has no power. Yeah he doesn’t have 1 punch KO power but I don’t see anybody running right through his punches. If so Ward would of already lost by now.Posted November 17, 2013 5:29 pm
Bulawayo2 – I thaught as much you nothing but a worthless coward. You have no problems with GGG beating on BUMS like Stevens but have issues with him getting in the ring with SOG. Best thing Bob ever did was getting rid of raggady rednecks like you out of Zim.Posted November 17, 2013 5:14 pm
a whopping 88 comments proving that no one cares about this boring, black cure for insomnia.Posted November 17, 2013 5:13 pm
T Can. Dont let people hurt your feelings dude, but dont try to sell to us who know boxing well that Ward isnt cherry picking to protect a very weak weak 0. Sorry broPosted November 17, 2013 4:48 pm
Peej do you really believe what you state.
Andre Ward may not be a paper champ, I agree.
make no mistake, when people note that Ward’s resume is anything but great. Wins over green, bika, froch, kessler and sucked up Dawson is weak.
We all know that Ward cant hurt anyone with his weak power, and hes resume is filled with fighers who already had been beaten
I believe that the point made when speaking of Adonis is the fact that Dawson was destroyed at a weight Dawson is best at. Ward couldnt do that while Dawson was sucked up.
Point is Ward is far from anything special and if you got excited that he is number one in the weakest collection of 168 in over 15 years, well then you arePosted November 17, 2013 4:46 pm
Yes ask how it feels to get KOd in a few seconds or beat down for 10 rounds. lol. See which one he chooses. And Ward is not a paper champ. He is the Lineal Champ and he became that by cleaning out a division.Posted November 17, 2013 4:27 pm
Hey Anonymous eat a D.i.ck you disrespectful S.O.B. !!!Posted November 17, 2013 4:19 pm
Fallen , lets ask chad dawson whats it like to get KOed in one round by AdonisPosted November 17, 2013 4:07 pm
WORTHLESS WORTHLESS WORTHLESS FIGHT. ANDRE WARD PLEASE UP YOUR GAME. Are any of you tired of the ping pong boy yet. Lets see Ward take on Adonis or heck B-hop. Ward is a paper champ who has the resume of cold storagePosted November 17, 2013 4:05 pm
Some people are gonna constantly hate on Ward. They see greatness but don’t want to believe it. Ward was not the one holding, that was Rodriguez and he started to do it right away.Posted November 17, 2013 3:47 pm
I dunno what some of these guys are talking about when they say ward is boring, yada yada yada..this dude is the truth and is embarrassing everyone..give him his credit..every time this guy clocked ward, ward came back and hit him twice as hard and went right back to the gameplan.. Ain’t nobody gonna beat this guy right now.. Just ask chad Dawson.Posted November 17, 2013 3:43 pm
Another snoozefest from Ward, lots of cuddling, Ward continually holding Rodriguez’ right arm. Second best fighter in the World my arse, certainly the second most boring after Hopkins.
“GGG needs to finish taking care of business in his own division first before he attempts to take on the undisputed best super middleweight in the world who is also one of the very best boxers in the world at this time.” – Agree with Hidaldo. GGG needs to unify 160, one of the traditional 8 weight divisions. Andre’s held a 168 belt a long time but it’s a division that’s not as respected as 160 or 175. Ward needs to go to 175 and GGG needs to stay put at 160 until he can no longer make weight.Posted November 17, 2013 2:25 pm
Its easy for these fighters to look good against lesser known fighters. But once they step in with the real deal they are throwing punches like amateurs. Also Ward doesn’t have to leave the US, he is the champion. You have to come to him to take the belt. And really doesn’t matter where he goes, he will win regardless.Posted November 17, 2013 2:19 pm
TARK wrote that EDWIN RODRIGUEZ was easily the best boxer that ANDRE WARD would have faced to date, so I did some digging and watched LA BOMBAS fight vs BUDDY McGIRT’S son James Jr on DVD and I published my thoughts below yesterday before the fight:
TARK….EVEN today, if LA BOMBA fought MIKKEL KESSLER, I would favour Kessler to win and probably by stoppage. I may be totally wrong as I am basing this on watching his 9 round win over pacifist JAMES McGIRT JR.
La Bomba, was easy to hit, confused himself with his own shot selection and whether or not he fought orthodoxy/ southpaw and worst of all throws slow, wide, looping punches from the outside.
Pluses, good punch output, good engine and good uppercuts inclose and ability to dictate the pace of a fight.
He must have improved immeasurably from that win over Mr. Pacifist who was told by his dad BUDDY McGIRT that he was going to be pulled out, because he was neither punching, nor avoiding getting punched in the face.
Anyway, Kessler IMHO would tear his head off….Punches too hard, too much volume, too sneaky and would dig those vicious body shots that Rodriguez wouldn’t be able to defend….Just ask COBRA and BRIAN McGEE….
Posted November 16, 2013 5:48 pm
Not sure what all the fuss is over La Bomba….He may even struggle vs ST GROVES and CHUNKY….Posted November 17, 2013 2:15 pm
Warddke has no passportPosted November 17, 2013 1:55 pm
GGG needs to finish taking care of business in his own division first before he attempts to take on the undisputed best super middleweight in the world who is also one of the very best boxers in the world at this time.Posted November 17, 2013 1:48 pm
GGG’s people are using other fighters names to make him MORE sellable because despite his assertions he will go to 154 or 168 he’s staying at 160 fighting Stevens caliber fighters.. No way in hell do his people want to see him go North 8 pounds and get dismantled, his only shot would be a KO and Ward has handled plenty of bangers at 168 without issue… How is a guy who thinks he’s best suited to go after the VERY small but Sublimely skilled Floyd Mayweather gonna be able to contend with the PRIME, Bigger Ward? This would require GGG to actually “BOX not Slug” above Wards level and that’s NOT gonna happen…Posted November 17, 2013 1:40 pm
I gotta laugh at guys expecting a super talented boxer like SOG to let Rodriguez go blow for blow with him… This ain’t Rocky and Ward is not poor Abdulasamov taking a bunch of lethal headshots… The man hits and minimizes the returns, the Arturo Gattis make for epic fights but when challenged by a master boxer the look ordinary and are take apart (Hatton) the number that Mayweather did on him and Gatti… BOTH were stopped, because these guys are not in there playing games or trying to win a “tough man contest” or bar room brawl, they are using hard earned skills and God given talent to exploit weaknesses in their opponents….Meat Head “Blue Collar” types have always detested the slick boxer who makes his work look easy and goes home with minimal damage….Boxing had room for many styles but pretending Wards not there to hurt guys is BOGUS he was painting Rodriguez while he had a MASSIVE lead only a KO could erase… This guys gonna be a force for a LONG time and is crafting a GREAT legacy…Posted November 17, 2013 1:34 pm
Ward called out GGG and all we can hear are crickets.Posted November 17, 2013 1:23 pm
Tomato Can- Anthony is a whole different fighter! I really like him. But wasn’t sure how he’s progressed since his cancer bout. An in shape Anthony and Bika is a great fight.Posted November 17, 2013 1:11 pm
1-2, if that’s the case Ward will be moving up soon. He’ll do well at -75 too… Now you do know I’m talking about Anthony, not Andre right? I’m looking forward to the Dirrell/Bika fight.Posted November 17, 2013 1:07 pm
Tomato Can- Didn’t know about the Bika fight. Not sure how AD will do against a rough and tough guy like that. But if he wins, he’ll likely take 6 months off and Hunter said they want Feb or March so that would be May or June. Too late imo. Also I saw on a video,Ward isn’t liking making 68 anymore. I just think its the right time for him.Posted November 17, 2013 12:51 pm
1-2 there’s nothing wrong with your opinion, but the fact remains champs don’t have to leave their comfortable weight classes, unless they want to and have no other options. Ward will more than likely stay at 168 until he’s no longer comfortable making that weight. Currently I would bet more 175 pound fighters would be willing to venture down to 168 than the other way around. Dirrell’s fighting next month against Bika if he looks good in that win he’ll be a good opponent for Ward too.Posted November 17, 2013 12:45 pm
Still the last nights fight was over 400 miles from Wards home, I wouldn’t call that fighting in his backyard even if it was still in his home state.Posted November 17, 2013 12:39 pm
Froch in the UK is the only fight for him at 68. Chavez Jr just got a gift, and is on a rematch with Vera, Stevenson is the 75 champ, Pascal is also 75, GGG has to clean out 160 and Direll hasn’t been active. If Ward wants to make his run while he has his youth, imo he has to fight the big fights and Stevenson, Kolav, and Pascal at 75 are all good fights for him right now.Posted November 17, 2013 12:36 pm
Ward fought Froch in Atlanta. So what is your point? What makes you wonder why that is? That is what promoters are supposed to do, make the fight where is makes since and makes cents. Thats what they did.Posted November 17, 2013 12:30 pm
Froch, Groves, Anthony Dirrell, Pascal, Stevenson, Chavez jr. and GGG are all possible opponents at 168 for Ward. Now if he’s not comfortable making 168!any longer then he should move up 175.Posted November 17, 2013 12:29 pm
Mega Dittos, you’re right in line with Rush Limbaugh, and his mental midget flock of sheep.Posted November 17, 2013 12:25 pm
@mega dittos- I know you must hate Blacks so it must please your racist mind that Ward is half White, Irish to be exactPosted November 17, 2013 12:25 pm
@Tomato Can- Whos left at 68?Posted November 17, 2013 12:23 pm
Prototypical boring, gutless black fighter.Posted November 17, 2013 12:22 pm
Ward is too damn defensive minded, making for a one sided boring affair. He has little to no power so fans have to endure the fight going the distance all the time. On top of that he is scared to fight outside of his own state….wonder why that is.Posted November 17, 2013 12:17 pm
Ward doesn’t need to move up to 175 he still has a few fights at 168.Posted November 17, 2013 12:16 pm
True Ward fights in California a lot, but Vegas is just as close or even a little closer to his home than Ontario Ca is.Posted November 17, 2013 12:15 pm
Now that Ward cleaned out 168, he needs to move to 175. Real good fighters there!Posted November 17, 2013 12:07 pm
PEEJ the racist the same as SREDMOND.Posted November 17, 2013 12:01 pm
when there’s a clear top dog at Light heavyweight he shud challenge them, but at the 175 limit so that he gets maximum credit. Unfortunately the Dawson win is slightly tainted. Ward has the potential to reign as Ring champ in both divisions, making one defense of each belt each year! His weight doesn’t need to fluctuate much either – 168 for Super middle, and 169-171 wud b fine for light heavy. … Having said that, I believe Kovalev will destroy Stevenson, pascal and Bhop as soon as he gets his opportunity. And if he does Ward may consider staying put.Posted November 17, 2013 11:57 am
You obviously where watching a different fight. Rodriguez was the one initiating most of the grabbing and holding. Ward was working. Plain and simple and took him to school. And that is what Rodriguez gets.Posted November 17, 2013 11:55 am
This was the last Ward fight i watched for sure , yes Rodriguez was a joke but if you watch the fight again you can see Ward was so dirty all time , Jab-Grab-Hold-Wrestle after a low blow or head butt and run back and continue until the final bell … Ward won but he is a dirty fighter and he proved it again , disappointed the fans .He is not deserve being number 2 P4P …Posted November 17, 2013 11:47 am
*WardPosted November 17, 2013 11:40 am
JoeKidd…UFC magazine once wrote about the “TOP 5 Boxers Who Would Make in It in MMA” and was square on that list.Posted November 17, 2013 11:39 am
Ward was good, but “better than ever”? He destroyed Dawson, but couldn’t give the same kind of beatdown to Rodriguez. That fourth round was embarrassing and just emphasized how both fighters made their careers on mugging and headbutts. I know Rodriquez is tall, but damn if he was there to be hit.Posted November 17, 2013 11:37 am
Rodriguez is a real idiot if he expects the public that it was Ward holding pushing rabbit punching and leading with his head. It was clear as day who it was and it was Rodriguez.
Edwin Rodriguez if you read this know you fight like a drunk Hobo and are a pathological liar.Posted November 17, 2013 11:35 am
True that. Froch super fans like to say, yeah Ward is too scared to come to the UK and beat Froch. So basically they just want him in the UK. lolPosted November 17, 2013 11:33 am
Wow a lot of hate for Ward after giving a one sided beatdown and I can bet 99% of them are Froch supporters. But the one thing these haters aren’t saying is Froch will beat Ward. At least they have that much common sensePosted November 17, 2013 11:32 am
Yes most of his fights are in California but that is what you are supposed to do. You put fights where they are gonna sell more tickets. What is the use of going somewhere if you can’t sell tickets there? Ward fought Froch in Atlanta. He fights away from Cali. Rodriguez was supposed to be a test for Ward coming off of shoulder surgery. Ward has a great record and deserves a give me fight after coming off a 14 month lay off and shoulder surgery. Unfortunately Rodriguez was just unprofessional.Posted November 17, 2013 11:30 am
Livershot, to be fair Ontario Ca. Isn’t Ward’s backyard. I’m not sure why he didn’t fight in Vegas, but it wasn’t because he’s afraid to fight there.Posted November 17, 2013 11:20 am
Who is Edwin Rodriguez and why was he in the ring with Ward? It was a profesional boxer vs an amature fighter. Ward needs to fight in Vegas, NY, Atlantic City, hell he doesn’t even fight in the Staples Center. For all his talent he will never garner attention if he doesn’t leave his backyard. Perhaps a fight with Stevenson somewhere other than California would get him some new fans.Posted November 17, 2013 10:52 am
Well, by my count Sugar Ray Robinson had more than thirty pro fights outside the USA. That is more fights than Andre Ward currently has as a professional.Posted November 17, 2013 10:49 am
“The fighter’s weight at fight nite doesn’t matter as all fighters rehydrate. What does matter is the weigh-in BEFORE”
Prof Konje, the fighter’s weight on fight night does matter. That’s why a lot of boxers fight in much lower weight divisions than what their natural body size dictates they should be fighting at–to take advantage of their superior size over their opponents. Most fighters do rehydrate but not “all.” And some rehydrate to a lot heavier weight than others. But as a fighter ages and grows, it becomes much harder for him to drop the necessary weight so he has to move up to another division. When this happens, he ends up facing opponents who are generally stronger and it harder, and often, this reduces their ability to be as successful as they were when they were regularly fighting smaller guys.Posted November 17, 2013 10:46 am
Public enemy Rodriguez looked like the famous human octopus John Ruiz..bahahahahaahahaPosted November 17, 2013 10:41 am
Mayweather’s little biatch.Posted November 17, 2013 10:40 am
In his video interview Rodriguez forgot to mention that he failed to follow instructions that Shields was giving him in the corner. Time after time Ronnie would tell him what to do and what not to do, but Edwin kept doing the same thing throughout the fight. Rodriguez came into the fight expecting a certain kind of performance from Andre Ward. But that didn’t happen, and as the fight wore on, Rodriguez did not appear to make any attempt to adjust to the way Andre was fighting.
As for his discussion on the making weight issue, he shouldn’t have gone to Disneyland with his family. He shouldn’t have been drinking water before the weigh-in. That’s not being focused. And from the looks of it all, he should have moved up to at least the light heavyweight division before he ever agreed to fight Ward.
Yeah, failure to not make weight happens. But when a boxer has the biggest opportunity of his life to make a name for himself, he has to be willing to make a lot of big sacrifices. It doesn’t appear that Rodriguez was willing to do that.Posted November 17, 2013 10:38 am
Public enemy you forgot the biggest cheater of them all…Danny Garcia who walks weighing 175+ then dehydrates himself to 140…he should be banned like the other Puerto Rican Luis Resto the original Cheater from New York.Posted November 17, 2013 10:37 am
The fighter’s weight at fight nite doesn’t matter as all fighters rehydrate. What does matter is the weigh-in BEFOREPosted November 17, 2013 10:28 am
Public Enemy, Ward came into the fight weighing around 180 lbs. So that means he regained about 13 pounds after weigh-in. Rodriguez probably weighed around 190. So he wasn’t that much bigger than Ward, But, that means both men are actually cruiserweights. Ward also stepped into the ring weighing 176 for his fight with Dawson. That’s one pound over the light heavyweight limit.
I think it’s fair to ask why either of them are fighting way down in the super middleweight division when in actuality they are much bigger men.Posted November 17, 2013 10:12 am
Rodriguez a very ordinary fighter…you can’t give Ward too much credit because of that.Posted November 17, 2013 10:11 am
They need to pass a rule that if you don’t make your fight weight you forfeit your purse and lose your Boxing license for a year.. This is getting really dangerous for the fighters who actually take this sport seriously and make weight while others who do not are allowed to come in much heavier and have a huge size advantage over the fighter who did the right thing. aka Mikey Ped Garcia vs JuanMa, Chavez Cheato Jr. vs Brian Vera, Rogriguez vs Ward, Canelo vs Mayweather..Posted November 17, 2013 9:51 am
That cut was nothing and Rodriguez was crying trying to get an excuse to quit.. Look at the Cut Puerto Rican Rosado suffered from Quillion and he was BEGGGING the REF NOT TO STOP THE Fight!!! Look at the 5 inch Monster Cut Cotto suffered from a Clottey Headbutt in round 3 and he never once complained and continued fighting the much Heavier Clottey..Posted November 17, 2013 9:46 am
Even Though Rodriguez pulled the Tijuana Weight Trick coming in as Light Heavyweight he still couldn’t do anything to Ward except get his AZZ kicked.. same as we saw with Middleweight Canelo vs 147lb Mayweather..Posted November 17, 2013 9:44 am
One fighter gets an eye cut from a head biutt- one guess as to who gets the cut. Rodrgues would give Ward a tussle in a street fight but this is about who is the better boxer.Posted November 17, 2013 9:43 am
Rodriguez instigateed 100% of the rough housing and dirty Wrestling as the Ref Pointed out to him.. “You’re instigating all of this” the only reason he took 2 points away from Ward after the took 2 away from Rodriguez was because Ward retaliated when Rodriguez put him in a Head Lock and hit him.. Dissapointed in Rodriguez.. you normally only see that level of dirty fighting in Mexicans and Hopkins.. LOLPosted November 17, 2013 9:43 am
I guess people doesn’t know what boxing is all about. few people like Ward inspite of his dominating performance, Gatti was a C-level fighter but earned $17 million in the ring because he was exciting to watch, people spend money for entertainment.Posted November 17, 2013 9:42 am
Impacted – he deducted 2 points from both fighters you dumb ass hater.Posted November 17, 2013 9:39 am
@SLIM PRICK,,YOUR TALKING THROUGH YOUR BACKSIDE MANPosted November 17, 2013 9:34 am
Good to see a ref finally take points in a Ward fight/wrestling match. The reason the referee took two two points from the pair of them is that a 3 point deduction triggers a DQ, something Ward has been lucky to avoid before now.Posted November 17, 2013 9:21 am
dont knock ward or mayweather. you should be looking at the hype”d up prima donnas their beating with one hand.Posted November 17, 2013 8:58 am
Ward and Mayweather are a joke.Posted November 17, 2013 8:49 am
That was almost as loppsided a fight as the Canelo vs Mayweather fight…that was more humiliating and laughable.. atleast Rogriguez tried to land something even though, just like Canelo he was much Heavier then his opponent… I’m sure our Resident Chihuahuas will say that Chavez Jr. is the only fighter that can beat Ward… LOL crazy dumbazzzzesPosted November 17, 2013 8:43 am
The ref did very well I was very impressed on how he handled the situation which could have gone out if hand.Posted November 17, 2013 8:41 am
Now tell me tumbo isn’t crazy?Posted November 17, 2013 8:38 am
te tumbo – Only Chavez Jr. has the skills to beat ward.. viva Mejico!Posted November 17, 2013 8:38 am
Solid win for Ward. I’m impressed with his performance after such a long layoff. I’m also impressed with the ref. He got an ugly fight under control in less than a minute. Ward has cleaned out 168. He has a big choice to make in the coming months: whether to stay at 168 and go for JC’s record, or move up for more challenges.Posted November 17, 2013 8:20 am
Bring on GGG or stfuPosted November 17, 2013 7:31 am
bang on, stevie boy.Posted November 17, 2013 7:22 am
bang on steve.Posted November 17, 2013 7:18 am
Fraud cherrypicker Mayweather so called P4P number 1 … only fights in the USA usually his place of residence – Vegas.
Andre the head butt Ward so called P4P number 2 only fights in the USA usually California.
Both refuse to fight anywhere else. The pair of them are a ridiculous joke and an embarrassment to USA boxing and to the truly great world champions of the past who had the guts to step outside the USA and prove themselves on foreign lands.
Sugar Ray Robinson was the real deal.
Ward and Mayweather are a joke.Posted November 17, 2013 6:51 am
Andre the cheat Ward wins again his own backyard.Posted November 17, 2013 6:38 am
When the disparaging words including “dodgy” are used to describe the gifted Andre Ward, you can bet the poster is an angry Brit or Dane who is still despondent over Andre beating Carl Froch and Mikkel Kessler.Posted November 17, 2013 6:37 am
Ward sucks?…. Like roger said most people don’t know sh$& about boxing! LolPosted November 17, 2013 6:04 am
WARD SUCKS,IN FACT ALL AMERICAN BOXING SUCKS,DODGY REFS,AND PEDSPosted November 17, 2013 5:50 am
Why on earth would the ref take two points off both fighters?? That is just ridiculous and it’s not punishing either of them. Strange decision!Posted November 17, 2013 5:46 am
Golovkin aint Big Show
Now that Haymon is back on HBO, Floyd can finally show us what he means by “Eurasians cant fight so they invented MMA”Posted November 17, 2013 5:45 am
That ref was bad for boxing. Letem fight and you wont get hit ya ol farty pance.Posted November 17, 2013 5:35 am
Hey…I see Al Haymon’s henchmen are back on HBO. Wasnt Haymon the main reason that HBO divorced GBP ?Posted November 17, 2013 5:32 am
Wow..another great fight for Mr. Ward!Posted November 17, 2013 5:29 am