Actually he fought 8. And at the time they were rated hight at welter. Pac lost to Bradley and Marquez. Fought a punching bag in Clottey and fought Mosley after watching Floyd toy with him. Didn’t count Oscar because he had no business fighting at that weight. But what’s more telling is Pac still couldn’t hurt Oscar. I could care less about the Margacheato fight. After Mosley destroyed him and found him out to be a cheat he was nothing no more and that is the only reason Pac fought home and he still took a beating in that fight. And had to have Cotto drop weight. I’m just saying that cause people say he ran through the welter weight division and that is far from truePosted November 23, 2013 6:01 pm
“Floyd has fought in 5 different weight classes and beat fighters in each of those weight classes.”
Peej, Manny Pacquiao is the first and only eight-division world champion. He has won ten world titles, and he was the first boxer to win the lineal championship in four different weight classes.Posted November 23, 2013 3:08 pm
“Pac has only fought 3 people at 147. All other fights have been at catch weights. He was dominant before welter but then had to resort to putting fighters at a disadvantage.”
Peej, Pac has had only three catchweight fights: Two at welterweight, and one at jr. middleweight. He fought Marquez once, Bradley once, De la Hoya once, Mosley once, and Clottey once at welterweight. The only catchweight fights he has had were with Cotto, Margarito, and his third fight with Marquez which had a catchweight of 144 for some reason I still do not understand.
In other words, Pacquiao has fought a total of seven fights as a welterweight. Five were fought at the 147 lbs limit, two were fought at catchweights. As for the catchweight fight with Margarito–that was in a totally different weight class (jr. middleweight) that neither man had fought in before. Compromises were made–because of the great size disparity between the two men–in order to make the title bout happen. In a total of eight bouts Pac fought three catchweight fights.
Meanwhile, Floyd has had one catchweight fight in his welterweight career and one as a jr. middleweight: One with Marquez and one with Alvarez. Like Manny, Floyd has had seven fights as a welterweight. He’s fought one less catchweight bout than Pacquiao for the same number of total fights as a welterweight. Even though Floyd has fought two more fights than Manny at jr. middleweight, Manny only fought one time in that division.
All total, Pac has three catchweight fights in eight bouts and Mayweather has two catchweight fights in 10 bouts.
Not that big of a difference.Posted November 23, 2013 3:04 pm
Pacquiao would unquestionably the greatest fighter of his generation if only he was black. I wish I was black too.Posted November 23, 2013 2:23 pm
Floyd is the greatest boxer of this generation. Floyd has fought in 5 different weight classes and beat fighters in each of those weight classes. Pac has only fought 3 people at 147. All other fights have been at catch weights. He was dominant before welter but then had to resort to putting fighters at a disadvantage.Posted November 23, 2013 1:32 pm
Gonzo the Vulture
Pacquiao is unquestionably the greatest fighter of his generation. Obviously he’s been on the decline for quite a while now and isn’t what he once was, but he still should have enough left to administer a brutal beatdown to the likes of Rios. I do think we’re going to see the best Rios we’ve seen though. This is his big moment to shine and that should make him raise his game to a different level.Posted November 23, 2013 11:01 am
I fondled Bradley’s plums during SSS at LAX. Then I swiped money from his wallet and his gold Rolex.Posted November 23, 2013 12:34 am
UnFnFadeable….Posted November 23, 2013 12:32 am
Hey tumbo, so you say PAC no good av boxer, he can’t box. So please explane this, why did your favorite fighter marquez got destroy by Bradley, it’s was a no contest shut out, you cant win if you can’t punch back right?
You bitc_hts need to stop mocking me. My donkey’s name is Margarito. How does eastside boxing lets you imposters get away with this travestyPosted November 22, 2013 11:47 pm
i don’t know what my appeal for g*y teen boys is but it’s caught on like WildFire around here(?!).Posted November 22, 2013 11:41 pm
I host BBC. I love sweaty guys and hairy chest are a plusPosted November 22, 2013 11:32 pm
I’m out guys. When they make me a moderator here I will be back but until then I will take my ball and go home for awhile.Posted November 22, 2013 10:28 pm
TITOPA, it actually only took Maquez two rounds to figure out Pacquiao* and turn him into a busted-up and bloody mess in their first fight. it’s also not just catching Pacquiao* lunging in, i’m also referring to how Marquez consistently caught him standing still beFore he could lunge and punch. IMO, that’s the easier flaw to exploit in Pacquiao’s* defense. we’ve all seen it: Pacquiao* darting around like a jumping bean, stops and sways his head side-to-side, and THAT’s the moment that Rios should try and exploit. otherwise, TC has a point. Rios may be too slow to exploit the split-second of Pacquiao’s* lunge. then again, that’s what they said about Marquez before II, III, and IV: too old + too slow + too small = #1 KO in Boxing History. not the desired result that Team Pacquiao* consistently expected.Posted November 22, 2013 9:01 pm
Ok Mr. Anonymous…I forgive you…but only of you join me and Mork and the rest of the gang in Vegas. Ok?..bring some adult diapers with you.Posted November 22, 2013 8:02 pm
Te tumbo, good points. If Rios can react fast enough he may prove you right. I think he’ll be too slow to do so.Posted November 22, 2013 7:59 pm
Sheriff Joe’s chicken pecker
If talks like a racist its a racist although if it twitches and makes racist remarks then its Roach.Posted November 22, 2013 7:56 pm
Sorry guys. I cant stand myself and neither can my parents. Thats why i post under anonymous.Posted November 22, 2013 7:51 pm
te tumbo – Also, Marquez had 41 rounds to figure out how to land it….and make it count! Rios only has 12. Hopefully he watched Marquez vs Paquiao I, II, III and IV and hopefully he learned something.Posted November 22, 2013 7:49 pm
te tumbo – Yes, catching Pacquiao coming forward is something I’ve long seen as the key to beating him, he’s always squared when the throws it and it’s almost always off balance, problem is the speed, most of his opponents lacked the timing, which is what it takes to beat speed…Marquez’s superior boxing ability enabled him to “time” that left hand, something Rios hopefully worked on.Posted November 22, 2013 7:44 pm
I apologize Titopa. I’m ashamed of my posting like a little tr oll-girl. I should know better. Please accept one idiot’s apology. Please?Posted November 22, 2013 7:43 pm
Nah, Mayor Roach is retiring, Bam Bam being the best candidate for the job is next in succession.Posted November 22, 2013 7:43 pm
TOMATO CAN, beyind the smoke and mirrors, i recall Pacquiao* being consistently caught flat-footed by Marquez in III and (of course) IV. call it luck, call it timing, i call it Pacquiao’s* porous defense. once you figure out the rythm of his spastic, darting movement, you can count on him pausing to stop and think about his next move, which is a lunging left-hand 99% of the time. this is what is glaringly evident on the videotape and what Marquez has explained as the source of his utlimate KO of Pacquiao*. any capable fighter whose studied and absorbed the same lessons, can count on teeing-off on Pacquiao* in a bout. the question is, can Pacquiao* still take it? i anticipate that Rios will shatter the bondo covering the huge dent on Pacquiao’s* mug and bash it in one final time.Posted November 22, 2013 7:41 pm
Didn’t you know Mr. Anonymous that imitation is the best form of flattery? So go on…you’re only showing that you’re in awe of me. Thanks!…where’s Mork???Posted November 22, 2013 7:40 pm
Tomato Can – Yeah, Rios has a chance, it’s not a great one…but he does. Luckily for him Pacquiao isn’t the greatest “boxer”, but his speed and power can trouble Rios, the only real chance Rios has IMO is his own power…the questions are: Can he land? Can he handle Pac’s power? That’s what we’re gonna find out.Posted November 22, 2013 7:40 pm
See what you did? Your pretending to be me scared Mork away….that’s not cool…not cool at all.Posted November 22, 2013 7:37 pm
Yay! Mr. Anonymous…you finally figured out how to copy paste! Good for you. I love that you take time out of your day to pretend to be me….it’s flattering, thanks.Posted November 22, 2013 7:36 pm
“Welcome to Twitch City”. Mayor Roach’s slogan for his hometown.Posted November 22, 2013 7:35 pm
Pretending to be is a dumb move. Shows just how stupid you are. Regulars know how I post. Now where’s Mork???!!!Posted November 22, 2013 7:34 pm
Next time you want to pretend to be me…you might want to spell my name right LOL….your comments will go ignored cause the regulars on this site know the type of comments I make….so, feel free to pretend to be me, it’s kind of flattering actually.Posted November 22, 2013 7:31 pm
I hope Rios gets ktfo into the next century. The kid is not right in the head.Posted November 22, 2013 7:29 pm
So may “anonymouses”, now I can’t find Mork. Mork, sweety, are you here somewhere?Posted November 22, 2013 7:25 pm
Rios, after the beating he will get from Pacquiao will be on his way to Parkinsons country. Welcome Twitch City, Bam Bam!Posted November 22, 2013 7:22 pm
It’s hilarious when someone posts as “Anonymous”, it’s like they’re too scared to make and keep a screen name…they’d rather not be recognized, I guess it’s easier to hid behind stupidity that way.Posted November 22, 2013 7:22 pm
I’ll give you guys this: I think more are giving Rios a chance to win this fight than gave Marquez to win fight 4. I just think Rios will catch too much leather, although I’m sure he will land punches, I’m just don’t think PAC will let Rios get set long enough to land KO type punches. But hey if I’m wrong I’ll be here to congratulate Rios and give props to the fans who think he’s going to pull it off…Posted November 22, 2013 7:22 pm
Anonymous – I was addressing someone who addressed me…Mr. Anonymous, in other words, that’s a word for “I want to post and not have my a name by it so no one knows I’m an idiot”.Posted November 22, 2013 7:20 pm
titurdpo, leave the moderating to esb and mind your own business. stick to boxing comments and leave your whining out of it.Posted November 22, 2013 7:15 pm
keep dreaming, peej of crap.Posted November 22, 2013 7:12 pm
The Mad Scientist
Manny Pacquiao can look like the same cat in training camp but we’ll find out tommorow night how he reacts to a fighter coming at him punching with full force trying to test that chin and bodyPosted November 22, 2013 7:10 pm
The Mad Scientist
Its gonna be fun watching tommorow night’s movie, “When Cherry Picks go Wrong!”Posted November 22, 2013 7:04 pm
te tumbo – Right? It was an amazing article…a bit sad too in regards to legends of the sport. Poor Pacquiao doesn’t know what’s coming unless he drops his entourage of 65.Posted November 22, 2013 6:51 pm
HecDog will be traumatized by this article and hopefully the first one to send a check to Pacquiao*. he could also be the type that simply abandons an idol who is no longer winning. time will tell.Posted November 22, 2013 6:42 pm
TITOPA, excellent read describing a predictable career arch for Pacquiao*. it makes one think whether his bluster and confidence is actually wishful thinking to address the fact that he is or will be broke sooner rather than later.Posted November 22, 2013 6:41 pm
This is going to be a great fight because both of these fighters are on the same level and love to scrap. Rios has already shown himself up to the challenge during the build up and has made me a fan, while Pacquiao is giving a little extra for the people hit by the typhoon. Good matchmaking gonna make for a hell of a match. I like Rios by knockout after the 10th.Posted November 22, 2013 6:18 pm
Hecdog – As a HUGE Pacquiao, please do yourself a favor and Google “Manny Pacquia Broke”, it’s going to be the first link…Manny Pacquiao is broke and Roach admits it. It’s a GREAT read and I recommend that EVERY true boxing fan read it.Posted November 22, 2013 6:11 pm
Rios by KO about the 10th roundPosted November 22, 2013 5:47 pm
Pac-man destroys guys like Rios.. Only slick boxers trouble him.. In & out, side to side … Pac is 2 fast & skilled for Rios.. All Manny has to do is Box. Rios looks great vs guys who stand in front of him .. Manny won’t do thatPosted November 22, 2013 5:43 pm
Manny Pacquiao has captured the world’s attention. No fighter has so dominated the spot like like Manny. Saturday night he will step into the squared circle looking for redemption, and responsibility as the best fighter in the world. Redemption for his loss against a questionable Performance Enhancing Drug fighter, Juan Manuel Marquez. Responsibility to those loyal fans throughout the world that never abandoned Manny Pacquiao in his darkest hour. Manny Pacquiao will be on center stage once again with the slim possibility of a future Mayweather fight looming not to far in the distance should he win in devastating fashion, which will happen in my humble opinion. All the doubters and haters have jumped on the Manny Pacquiao is done hate wagon throughout the year. They now wait in anticipation, hoping and wishing that Manny loses again, which would end his spectacular career. Unfortunately for them, Manny will rise as the sun rises displaying a bright blazing ball of fire. The fiery piston like punches will accelerate at speeds never before seen in the ring or the race track. Manny will embrace this fight as never before. He is the most athletically gifted and talented pure fighter in the history of boxing. This is his time, and the world is depending on him to bring back the hope so many people have lost. Manny is not just a boxer, but a beautiful human being that has touched the lives of those that have nothing in life. Manny Pacquiao will quench the thirst of those people come fight night. There have been many distractions trying to discombobulate Manny’s mind as he makes this historic come back fight. The disaster that recently happened in the Philippines, Michael Koncz recent heart attack and the camps unfortunate war of words that has added more heat to this fight have not shaken Manny Pacquiao in any way. He is focused, confident and ready to explode with a ferocity seen only in lions roaming in the wild. Manny has the look of the predator as he stalks his prey. The calm before the storm hits. On Saturday night, Manny Pacquiao make his triumphant ring return using his full arsenal as he soundly beats up and hurts Brandon Rios to the point that Robert Garcia must stop the fight waving a white towel. Manny Pacquiao once again conquers the world all by himself.Posted November 22, 2013 5:23 pm
Its funny that you guys think Pac cannot get caught with something, after one of the most devastating knockouts in pugilistic history. Napman fell face first first on the canvas. It is not unconcievable that Pac may = Roy Jones, ya digPosted November 22, 2013 5:22 pm
too many are still under the Pacquiao* celebrity spell. they seem to have not noticed that as soon as Pacquiao* started to face prime, undefeated opponents and his primary rival, he began to seriously falter. many of you even concede that Rios was handpicked to make Pacquiao* look good NOT because he poses a legitimate threat, but i submit that Rios’ sheer size, hunger, and ferocity will compensate for any technical deficiences of which Pacquiao* is not the most qualified to exploit anyway. Manny* is not a technical boxer. he’s not a boxer at all. he’s the same single-fisted, one-dimensional Puncher that he’s always been. just look at his reaction after being Dropped by Marquez? reckless, lunging, rapid-fire Lefts that Marquez ducked and countered and only narrowly missed KOing Pacquiao* three rounds earlier than he eventually did. prior to that, Pacquiao* was getting caught flat-footed by the same punches (uppercuts and right-leads) over and over again in III. the evidence is there. i’ve formed conclusions based on the documented evidence and i’m certain that Team Garcia has done the same and is at-least as confident as I am that the Biggest, Strongest, and Hungriest Rios ever can absorb and counter and brawl enough to KTFO of Pacquiao*.Posted November 22, 2013 5:06 pm
Rios can’t win even if he does KO Manny. So you knocked out Manny ,JMM already did it. Who did you beat, you beat a fighter on the backside of his career. If you lose, you lost to a leagend. HBO will still pay you to fight fighters nobody has heard of and make you more than what you are.Posted November 22, 2013 4:51 pm
pac gets the knockout in around the 6th round,Rios not fast enough and his brawling style will be his down fall,look what abril whos a mover did to him and pacman can move and punch so bad news for Rios..yuup!Posted November 22, 2013 4:34 pm
Titopa`couldn’t of said it better myself …yezzir!Posted November 22, 2013 4:31 pm
Another Messican Will Fall – These comment sections are to discuss BOXING, not for people to post about race and personal preferences…that’s not cool. We should be writing as boxing fans. Your screen name alone is tragedy in itself, your comments are even worse. This site used to filter out the wannabe fans, I hope they do that again…SOON.Posted November 22, 2013 3:20 pm
stuck in a moment
Writer…pick one. Distance or ko? You already have the 4-1 favorite. At. Least tell us how he winsPosted November 22, 2013 2:50 pm
Another Messican Will Fall
Te Turdo wont be happy tommorrow when Pac, conqueror of Pedquez and Roach, who hates Messicans, destroys one more $pic.Posted November 22, 2013 2:48 pm
Another Messican Will Fall
Tittytopa Said: “Waaaaaaaaaaaah!”Posted November 22, 2013 2:45 pm
Another Messican Will Fall
Tomato Can said: “Waah waah waah waah.”Posted November 22, 2013 2:44 pm
Tomato Can – I agree. Hopefully the moderators or whatever start blocking IP addresses or find a way for you to HAVE to log in, this way they can block users…’cause it’s really getting ridiculous.Posted November 22, 2013 2:26 pm
Mcfan……Lewis came back from a one punch KOPosted November 22, 2013 2:17 pm
For those of you interested in a GREAT read, I mean, GREAT read…Google “Manny Pacquiao Broke”, it’ll be the fist link titled “Requiem for a welterweight: Manny Pacquiao may be broke, but is he broken, too?”Posted November 22, 2013 2:12 pm
PACMAN TO WINPosted November 22, 2013 1:36 pm
K.C you beat me to it like my British peeps would say that rubbish. Pac is a lazer precise puncher and is the most accurate in the sport. I know the response Floyds more accurate but Floyd doesn’t throw in enough volume to be in the conversation. Floyds like a dude who hits 390 but doesn’t have enough at bats to qualify for the batting tittle. Pac throws short and straight and hits the bulls eye more than anyone.Posted November 22, 2013 1:17 pm
It would be real cool, if posters would start posting about fights, rather than race, and personal differences. Lately this site has stunk up the joint…Posted November 22, 2013 1:15 pm
Short of the 1 sentence paragraphs, this articles content is pretty good IMO. Still this fight is all about putting Manny in front of someone he can hit without getting countered. Rios will be battered by the third round, but if he can manage to back up Manny and land on him, without sustaining too much damage himself, he might gain control of the fight with a well timed strait right to the jaw. Anything other than that Rios is going to get blitzed.Posted November 22, 2013 1:13 pm
Pac. will fight similar to his Diaz and Oscar bouts. I predict Pac. to win in via later round stoppage.Posted November 22, 2013 1:06 pm
It’s Me, Ernie
Rios is willing to take punches to give them, not a good idea against the likes of the Pacman…Posted November 22, 2013 12:48 pm
TeTurdo is at it again…He believes if he post comments every single minute of every single day of the year that it some how makes her important, obviously an indication of low self esteem and insecurity issues.Posted November 22, 2013 12:41 pm
Pacquiao* is not a precision puncher. he’s a quick Puncher who misses aLot and takes a shot in return….. Shut your pie hole boy!Posted November 22, 2013 12:28 pm
Pacquiao* is not a precision puncher. he’s a quick Puncher who misses aLot and takes a shot in return. it’s immediately after scoring any flush-shot that Manny* is easiest to hit. during his predictable go-for-broke counter-surge is the best time for Rios to time and counter Pacquiao*. stalk, breakdown, and punish until it becomes clear that Pacquiao* can not hang v. the Biggest, Strongest, and Hungriest “Bam Bam” ever.Posted November 22, 2013 12:05 pm
Saying Rios will beat Pac is like saying a heavybag will beat Pac. A heavybag swings back with the same speed Rios does and I think the heavybag has a higher boxing I.Q lmao. Pac will hit Rios with clean shots as much as he does to a heavybag.Posted November 22, 2013 11:54 am
Impossible for Rios to win a decision. I like what your thinking but his only way to win is by KO and I’m thinking that happens bout the 10th roundPosted November 22, 2013 11:31 am
Manny’s* darting-evasiveness is the primary challenge for Rios. he should focus on Manny’s* body and defense the first five rounds before opening up. Pacquiao* will predictably punch away with KO intentions but after five rounds of that while taking shots to the body, he’ll become increasingly stationary at which point Rios’ inside game begins to take over. Pacquiao’s* boxing skills are virtually non-existent. when he’s hurt, he defaults to a lunging and single-fisted Puncher over-reliant on his left. as long as Rios remains sensitive to that, timing those vengeful and reckless flurries will be key to breaking Pacquiao* down, busting him up, and retiring him (and Roach) for Good.Posted November 22, 2013 11:30 am
It is a long shot — but I think it is possible rios wins in a 12 round decision.
- rios needs to come forward with jab, double jab, and left hook. Rios has to make pacquiao fight backward
- rios needs to stand his ground when manny comes forward, crouch, clinch, and counter hard to the body and add hard counter right hands
More than anything else this will take discipline, intelligence, and courage from rios who will be trying to stand firm against an on-rushing tiger. The advantage for rios is that this tiger (pacquiao) is not that big and if rios can keep his hands up, stand firm, crouch, clinch, go to the body and then use a jab, double jab, and left hook to push pacquiao back — he has a chance.
I think it is a longshot for this to happen. Not clear if rios has the discipline and intelligence to make this happen — even if he has the courage.Posted November 22, 2013 11:15 am
Pac has never been KOd the way Marquez KOd him. And there has been maybe a couple people ever who have been KId like that and had a successful careerPosted November 22, 2013 11:12 am
Brazilian Boxing Fan
I believe Pacquiao will win.Posted November 22, 2013 9:38 am
Someone below said Pac’s KOs early in his career were the same as the Marquez one. They weren’t anywhere near as brutal or soul destroying.
I still fully expect Pac to win in good fashion, but there will be plenty of action en route.
I think Pac stops Rios in round 8 or 9, maybe more due to cuts than actually’stopping’ the sado-masochistic Rios.
Great fight while it lasts though, can’t wait!Posted November 22, 2013 9:13 am
im thinking ko in the 6thPosted November 22, 2013 8:51 am
but this isnt a fight anybody should be worried about pacman losing,rios is completely right for pacmanPosted November 22, 2013 8:50 am
i agreePosted November 22, 2013 8:49 am
I would wish that Pacman was in a slightly better form, mentally and physically, than he was against Bradley, which he underestimated, and Marquez, who he was to open against.
I hope Pacman is in his best, most focused state, against Rios, who could be dangerous. When Pacman is focussed, and in topshape, like Roach says, Rios is in trouble, since he will come forward, and be wide open for counterpunches.
I see Pacman going forward and punishing Rios, when Rios has slowed down, after 2-3 rounds.
To me, Pacman is his own worst enemy, boxer, politician, country myth, he has to take his last fights deeply seriously.Posted November 22, 2013 8:29 am
pac by ko..noones bying this rios hype..noope!Posted November 22, 2013 8:14 am
“Why would I regret it?” is Garcia’s answer for Ariza’s behavior in the recent altercation with Freddie Roach? No need to answer anything Robert. A man is known by the company he keeps.Posted November 22, 2013 7:20 am
What’s with a new paragraph for every sentence?
Is this a disjointed blunt list of thoughts or an “Enter” key test?
Perhaps the author thinks it’s a chat session with a Sears online technician.
Learn to write Carlson.
This is your second pathetic article.
*Enter*Posted November 22, 2013 7:12 am
Manny got knocked out early in his career, twice, the same way as against Marquez. He came back and dominated the world of boxing for the next fifteen years and became fighter of the decade.
We’ll have to wait and see mcfan :)Posted November 22, 2013 7:00 am
Can anyone name one fighter who has ever came back from a KO like the one Marquez gave Manny?
BAM BAM BY KO!!!!Posted November 22, 2013 6:36 am
it’s going to be a good fight as long as it lastPosted November 22, 2013 6:11 am
50 percent Manny will slice and dice 100 percent Rios like a Christmas turkey .. Rios is WAY out of his depth .. he is nothing more than a plodder with a good chin and good punch output … Manny is an elite level fighterPosted November 22, 2013 5:41 am
Great article, I agree with most of the conclusions but I see Rios taking a tremendous beating. He’s too slow and has proven himself unable to handle skilled boxers that use their footwork.
Garcia, Rios’s trainer, must see this and is trying to get Manny agitated and unfocused by creating drama like the other day.
Rios is in for a beating. I don’t think the tactics of team Garcia/Rios of calling names and humiliating Parkinson’s disease will change that.Posted November 22, 2013 5:20 am