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Anonymous

dont worry groves will get one of these paper belts one day there”s another five out there. btw the kid fought a good fight,

Posted November 25, 2013 10:22 am 


Tony1244

Thrash, you may be right about Boystov as it could be a distance fight with Chisora. I do think Chisora would beat Boystov very easily but they may hear the final gong. Could be a silly discussion as the fight is unlikely to occu. Boystov and Wilder are in quite a competition regarding ducking anyone who can fight some.

Posted November 25, 2013 9:29 am 


theyiddo

Well said Bil Patrice Jones. If you assume that the 1st round was 10-8 to Groves on all 3 scorecards, then that means 2 judges had Froch winning more rounds that Groves between 2-8. What fight were they watching? Or how much were they paid. As I said on another thread for this fight…you only need to have 2 judges in your pocket.

Posted November 25, 2013 9:16 am 


Truth

Froch was only one point behind and was smashing Groves up in the 8th and the 9th. Look at Georges face? What matters in boxing is how a fight ends not how it starts. Froch took the best of Groves but still managed to close the gap and overpower him. This had late rounds brutal stoppage written all over it. I feel more sorry for Froch than for Groves. If the ref had let it go on we would all be talking about an amazing Froch comeback win. Froch ALWAYS ends strongest. Even against Ward his best moments were in the championship rounds, a 15 round fight would favour him

Posted November 25, 2013 5:27 am 


Bill Patrice Jones

In my opinion it’s equally controversial that two judges saw this fight 76/75 against Groves by round 8s conclusion. Therefore if Froch won round 9 the fight would have been level. That’s disgraceful judging. Groves won no less than 7 rounds including a knockdown. Groves might have even won all 8. I don’t know why judges score in Froch’s favour so incredibly generously. He got very very generous cards against Direll and Ward aswell. This fight went exactly as I thought it would minus the stoppage. Froch’s toughness is literally scary. He took such an array of flush right hands and didn’t even really look beaten up at the end. There was a moment by about round 4-5 where the commentator made a great comment. He said ‘Froch has sort of decided he has to take these punches flush because he can’t evade them and so is now just walking forward blindly.’ I never quite understood why so many people scoffed at Groves’ chances of being quite dominant against Froch. He was always faster, always had better technique and was always a decent puncher. Great fight and I think Froch would be stupid to take a rematch.

Posted November 25, 2013 5:00 am 


lman

Saw the reply, the stoppage was ridiculous and Groves should have been allowed to continue, could he have boxed and moved for the last couple of rounds and absorb the pressure, better boxers have tried and failed against Froch…

Posted November 24, 2013 10:11 pm 


TARK

Fake TARK made the last comment…

I will make my pick on Froch-Groves II when I see how their respective camps are going… Right now I don’t see anyone stopping Froch at 168… If he went to 168 Kovalev would stop him.

Posted November 24, 2013 10:07 pm 


Thrashnephilim

And That’s all I ask. Just merely for clarity for both fighters in such high stakes fight. Froch had amazing heart and courage, no doubt he’s a warrior to get up and drudge forward. But just the same, Groves deserved to continue win lose or draw for how he fought in all previous rounds. Both men deserved the ref to stay out of it wether a KO by Froch or Groves recovering to KO Froch or going to the final bell.

Posted November 24, 2013 2:40 pm 


Frochy

You say Groves could’ve got to the corner and recovered his legs. But you don’t mention how long was still left in round 9. In my opinion George would’ve been lucky to see the bell if the ref hadn’t stopped the fight. Still, I think it was a poor stoppage witch prevented the KO Carl badly wanted and deserved after getting through the 1st round knock down.

Posted November 24, 2013 2:31 pm 


Thrashnephilim

The ref would dare stop the fight in round one when Froch got that whammy hammy and got up staggered and dazed. No way, not the champ.

Posted November 24, 2013 2:19 pm 


Thrashnephilim

After I saw Smoger pushing Vera by the face and cursing at him and then Vera getting totally robbed HARD. I don’t really trust refs and question their integrity and motives. Sorry, color me a realist.

Posted November 24, 2013 2:14 pm 


Thrashnephilim

Purely a mitigator, no facts, just opinions in most cases by Froch fans. The truth is, the guy had several polished rounds, it was a championship fight, had it not been waved off, Groves could also have recovered and turned it around as he was beating Froch the good majority of the fight. Again, Froch leaning fans do not have the ability or want to understand such “idiocy” though… Correct?

Posted November 24, 2013 2:10 pm 


Thrashnephilim

How do people arrive at the conclusion if Groves wasnt stopped, the next round he would be KO’d? How people?!?!? How is it possible? How many times has a round ended and the time to rest in the corner the fighter gets his legs back and a few puffs and turns it around. Now, I ask you, for all the previous rounds… How is Groves exempt from that?!?

Posted November 24, 2013 2:00 pm 


Frochy

I see nobody has replied about me saying George Groves gave Carl Froch his hardest fight. Yes that’s right, he gave Carl more hell then Ward, Taylor, Kessler, Pascel, Dirrell and many others could manage.

Posted November 24, 2013 1:56 pm 


Blacker

The fact is that Groves was out on his feet, turned and tried to run, the ref noticed he was out and saved him. Had the ref not stopped it, he would’ve been stopped by the next round. He didn’t have anything left, whereas Froch was in demolition zone. Groves would’ve been knocked out cold, no way he had enough to last the next few rounds. He outclassed Froch for most of the fight, but the championship rounds are where men are separated from boys. He has better skills than Froch, and is a big puncher, unfortunately to beat Froch, you have to be tougher down the stretch like SOG was

Posted November 24, 2013 1:50 pm 


Jake and the fatman

I think a defeat for Boystov is not necessarily a bad thing but a much needed wake up call and sign to start training a bit harder to get into the shape he was earlier in his career, he looks to have gotten lazy on a diet of average fighters he has beaten his whole time as a professional boxer ,a lot of it is down to his previous promoters who kept him at that level.His chin is certainly no problem as he was smashed pillar to post for ten rounds and kept going, I would like to see Chisora take on Leapai it would be an all out brawl between them

Posted November 24, 2013 1:19 pm 


Thrashnephilim

Tony, Boytsov would NOT be KO’d by Chisora. You think Chisora has more power than Leapai,… That’s funny. And he didnt KO Boytsov. One knockdown was not and it was a punch in the back of the head. The other he seemed to be off balance already but a big shot did connect. He was up at 2-3 though. Boytsov’s chin is solid. And Leapai has a hell of a punch. Chisora can not KO Boytsov, not in a million tries.

Posted November 24, 2013 12:59 pm 


Thrashnephilim

You see folks, apparently, its of humor for cretins to use my name and counter my previous comment. I beleive the humans with missing chromosomes tend to entertain themselves by these things. Rest assured that the previous comment with my name was not me, though I’m flattered that some lesser being felt necessity to change my view. That lets me know my comment they countered had impact. So,… Thanks,… Imposter cretin.

Posted November 24, 2013 12:49 pm 


XYZ

Hands up if you think Tark is damn irritating.

Posted November 24, 2013 12:23 pm 


bonbon

@jake and the fatman. Fair enough I take it back about lee it was harsh considering.

Posted November 24, 2013 10:37 am 


Jake and the fatman

@Bonbon totally agree with you I think a little harsh on Andy Lee considering the fight was made very late but spot on for the rest of your post

Posted November 24, 2013 10:07 am 


bonbon

In these times we have to spend our money wisely yet we were ripped off from fhe first fight to the last, the shuold be some kind of inquiry into this whole show being ppv. Froch v groves was making a bitter pill easier to swallow and then “that” happened. Quigg fight a “world title” fight dont make me laugh it was a effing joke and quiggs body language afterwards stated as much. Donnelly an ex “world” champ haha not a bit of wonder they took it back off him. He had 6 months out and played the ring rust card. Andy lee??? What was the point in him being there trying to tell us he’s world class, if they are world class match em with worthy opponents instead that crap they gave us last night. Only 1 man got tested last night and he had the ref in his corner.

Posted November 24, 2013 10:00 am 


Tony1244

Rod, Chisora would KO Boystov easy.

Posted November 24, 2013 9:51 am 


SREDMOND

That was a TERRIBLE HOMETOWN stoppage, Groves was fighting back and this was a World Title bout deserving of a pure result… Froch is happy as hell he got bailed out by that ref, Groves would be a fool to go face him again in that venue… Crap like this drags boxing down even further, a ref imposing the result he seems to want on the bout…

Posted November 24, 2013 9:06 am 


Lenin

This stoppage can only happen in Germa… oh, wait. Forget what I said.

Posted November 24, 2013 9:06 am 


slim prickman

and the brits moan about the yanks.

Posted November 24, 2013 8:52 am 


choky

worst stoppage i have ever seen – either the referee was totally incompetent or he was corrupted and the fight was fixed – can only be one of the 2-

Posted November 24, 2013 8:45 am 


Stuart

Why are people talking like Groves won? Froch was clearly very nervous the first few rounds, it is well documented that Carl suffers quite bad nerves before a fight, the first round was touch and go, it really was a knockout punch, how he got up I don’t know, and the next few rounds I was worried Carl would get KO’d but once he got warmed up his punch resistance just got better and better, Groves fought a more skilled fight against a champion who maybe let things get to him more than he let on, Groves and Degale have never been seen to be on Carl’s level which puts pressure on the champion to make a easy night, we have seen many times the ones that were meant to be easy being the hardest because the underdog has less expectation and therefore less pressure. Carl looked sloppy at times but he did something we all too often ask from a fighter but don’t see it, he knew he was in trouble and so just the caution to the wind and went for it, George was tiring late on and Carl took full advantage, I have been a boxing fan many years and if a fighter gets really hurt or brain damaged it’s the same argument that the REF should have noticed the fighter was at serious risk and stopped it sooner, Groves took at least 3 heavy shots before falling into the ref’s arms, I agree with those who say Groves should have taken a knee, so why didn’t he? perhaps he was too out of it, we will never know, but don’t blame Carl because the stoppage was legitimate from a REF point of view, the REF did nothing wrong either. In a rematch I think Carl would be less nervous because now we know Groves is world class there would be less pressure on Carl to just blow him out, I think if they fight again Froch would stop him again only this time there would be no doubt, but I am not writing Groves off either, but this was a very slow start for Carl in this fight, I think he needs a bit of time off, give him some credit, nobody takes a shot and come back like Carl.

Posted November 24, 2013 8:38 am 


red

UK boxing is Corrupt and Rotten to the core!!!

Posted November 24, 2013 8:19 am 


rod

Boytsov, what a joke. Lucky he did not fight chisora

Posted November 24, 2013 8:13 am 


igba

FROCH TO KNOCK HIM OUT IN A REMATCH I DON’T AGREE WITH PEOPLE SAYING HE WILL STOP FROCH IN THE REMATCH IT WILL BE SAME AS THE 1ST FIGHT GROVES IN THE LEAD AND FROCK KNOCKING HIM OUT BRUTALLY

Posted November 24, 2013 8:01 am 


slim prickman

SURELY groves must win one of these paper belts,i mean there”s 5 on offer.

Posted November 24, 2013 7:46 am 


justsaying

Anonymous if you think that then your demented and don’t know your boxing your just an idiot !!!

Posted November 24, 2013 7:31 am 


Anonymous

The words “true champion” and “Andre Ward” do not belong in the same sentence. Groves KO Ward.

Posted November 24, 2013 7:23 am 


justsaying

Groves met an old warrior on the night ..Froch as had to many wars for his famiies sake time to retire on top its just commonsense .

Posted November 24, 2013 7:14 am 


justsaying

Imagine what the true champion would do to these 2..Andre Ward by far the superior Boxer !!

Posted November 24, 2013 7:11 am 


boxing barlow

Ha hs nah I dont think he’ll get the ko! I think he will coast to an easy points victory

Posted November 24, 2013 6:01 am 


TARK

Well we agree on one thing. Groves will KO Froch in the rematch.

Posted November 24, 2013 5:59 am 


boxing barlow

Groves will completely outclass Froch in a return fight. He will have learnt not to engage with Froch and will just easily outpoint him. From Frochs point of view I can’t see what adjustments he can makr to be more effective.

Posted November 24, 2013 5:56 am 


TARK

Groves would of ko ‘d Froch in the 10th.

Posted November 24, 2013 5:56 am 


punch

I said Groves was going to race to lead in the first few rounds and he did, the later rounds were suspect just like in his fight against Degale. A rematch is warranted as the stoppage was truly premature.

Posted November 24, 2013 5:15 am 


boxing barlow

Tark – im English. Ive follwed and supported Froch all the way through his career. I love his all action style and think he’s a true warrior. But as much as id like to agree with you that night when I watched the fight if I was honest with myself as much as I wanted Froch to win in my book he got beat.

Posted November 24, 2013 5:12 am 


TARK

barlo…, I go by who landed the hardest, most effective, and cleanest punches… I could GAF what a bunch of hometown fans and judges think… They’re not objective to begin with.

That was an easy win for Froch — but was settled in their last fight.

Posted November 24, 2013 5:06 am 


Killing Moon The Soothsayer

boxing barlow : I seriously don’t take anything it says seriously…I’m here to discuss boxing…Not deal with delusionals…It can rub it’s own lotion on it’s skin..

Posted November 24, 2013 4:56 am 


boxing barlow

Tark – strange how the three judged and mist of boxing fans out there agreed with me. Whats does everyone else think, was Froch robbed first time round? TARK is making out this was Ottke vrs Reid all over again! Lol

Posted November 24, 2013 4:45 am 


boxing barlow

This was an awful stoppage last night and awful referring. The ref was constantly on Frochs back for illegal moves but never once took a point. At the point of the stoppage Groves took Frochs punch and was hurt but was still on his feet. He used he boxing IQ to turn away his back on Froch at which point the ref should have stepped in like he did to stop Froch from hitting Groves, he should have split them up and warned Groves for turning his back on the fight. This clever move by Groves would have given him the time to recover and the fight would have continued. This is what I thought was happening but was astounded when the ref waved it off. Disgraceful referring and this is from a guy who bet froch to win by ko.

A part from this I think Groves boxed beautifully and a real start at super middleweight was born last night. I think Groves actually thought is was gonna be harder than it turned out to be! By the mid way point I think Groves not only thought he could out box Froch but I think decided he could take frochs best shots. Therefore I think Groves didn’t stick to his original game plan and chose to allow himself to get involved in a tear up with Froch which ultimately due to the awful ref was his downfall last night. What I think is clear though is Groves will easily walk the rematch and just outpoint Froch better than Ward did. The really good thing is we might actually have a serious contender is Groves to Wards title as number one and a real heir to Calzaghes crown in the UK!

Posted November 24, 2013 4:43 am 


TARK

barlow…, You’re blind and stupid… That didn’t happen.

Jim Lampley laid out the punch stats on TV before Froch-Kessler II… They showed Froch ahead in clean effective punching big time… That’s why both commentators Bernstein and Farhood had Froch beating Kessler in Denmark..

That was a hometown verdict and everybody knows it.

Posted November 24, 2013 4:40 am 


boxing barlow

Tark- thats rubbish. Kessler beat Froch big time in Denmark. Although Froch was competitive throughout I hardly gave him a round as Kessler just backed him up all the wqy through the fight.

Posted November 24, 2013 4:30 am 


Europe the home of boxing

Wow tark you really know nothing about boxing

Posted November 24, 2013 4:07 am 


Myles

If you’re in trouble the referee can stop it. The trick is not to get into that situation where a cautious referee will end your night. In my view Groves was hurt and at risk, and the referee made a quick stoppage.

That happens as often as referees making late stoppages. If I’m the fighter I prefer a quick stoppage to a late one. Everyone wants to see somebody flattened but that’s generally not going to happen, because when somebody starts flagging badly the referee jumps in. It’s up to the boxer not to get into that situation.

Posted November 24, 2013 3:47 am 


Marvin Monzon

Great fight, the kid was very good; much better than “Too Slow” Froch but the old cobra is still a warrior, and the sad thing is that until the BS stoppage the referee was good too

Posted November 24, 2013 3:30 am 


TARK

Termi-Hamster T1000….

I’m not the only person who thinks Froch beat Kessler twice… Both commentators thought Froch won…I believe it was Bernstein and Farhood.

Before their 2nd fight Jim Lampley put up a graphic that showed Froch throwing and landing many more punches than Kessler in the first fight — and noted the 2nd fight was in England NOT Denmark. In the 2nd fight the winner got the decision.

Kessler had the opportunity to continue in the Ward fight… His corner decided to stop it and take the loss… They knew they were way behind… I consider that a stoppage because Mikkel was beaten really badly, had a choice to continue, and didn’t want to continue. They knew it was going to the scorecards and Kessler was the loser by a mile… The cut was not obscuring his vision to a good extent … he was just completely outboxed and beaten really badly.

Posted November 24, 2013 3:21 am 


Thrashnephilim

I just watched the stoppage on YouTube and changed my mind. Groves was in serious trouble. Good stoppage by the ref. No controversy.

Posted November 24, 2013 3:05 am 


Stark

Thrash-I agree. Let’s not forget about the elbows & hitting after the break.

Posted November 24, 2013 3:05 am 


Thrashnephilim

It was a big fight, the ref is a dik for stopping a fighter that has the fight to that point and he’s in trouble in a title fight. He should have given him a standing 8. Let him have a chance. That was a dick move with a belt up for grabs and the challenger seeming to be a better fighter

Posted November 24, 2013 2:55 am 


Thrashnephilim

You are wrong. 2 times. I did see. And Groves did indeed do what he said he would do. Now a it really made Froch mad because he would not listen to such rubbish and the idea that Groves thought he was going to cause him trouble and land several right hands. Well, Froch was wrong as you well know. Groves landed the right as he said and Froch found himself on his ass in round one. Groves seems to be a better fighter and my point is that both fighters talked the talk before. After is what I emphasize. Usually there is a sore loser, but sore winner?

Posted November 24, 2013 2:51 am 


Thane

Ref stepped in groves hurt good fight but it was only going to end in groves getting really hurt give the ref a break he has to make a instant decision he did so be it a good rematch to come

Posted November 24, 2013 2:46 am 


Anonymous

@Thrashnephilim. Groves – humble? I guess you missed all the disrespectful crap he was saying in the build-up. Humble my ass.

Posted November 24, 2013 1:36 am 


Thrashnephilim

Froch was back to his old self after the fight saying he doesn’t have stoa thy for Groves and he felt he did what he needed to win. While, on the other hand, Groves said he was “gutted” and felt he was winning the fight. Groves also stated that he respects Froch and he said he has a solid chin. Think about that. An undefeated young fighter, who clearly was the underdog coming into the fight. He decks the champ in round one, hurts Froch several more times and throughout the fight seems the better of the two fighters with better skill. But when he is hurt in a championship fight the ref doesn’t give him his chance to fight back or even a standing 8 count, But I digress. My point is, even after he seemed to show he was a better fighter, in a championship fight with a belt on the line that the ref stopped abruptly, he is humble in his loss. He gave respect to Froch even though Froch seemed short of respecting him back. This kid is good, I like him. Win, lose, or draw. Because he is humble.

Posted November 24, 2013 12:23 am 


Thrashnephilim

Demon, those are strong words. I don’t think people are blood thirsty to want to give a guy who was possibly the underdog and superior fighter a chance he deserved hurting Froch more often than he was hurt. The ref does have to make a decision but in the back of his mind should be common sense that says “this is a title fight, this boy has also held his own against the champ in all the other rounds and even hurt Froch several times. There is a belt on the line,…. I need to give this kid the chance he has earned and with the stakes so high, let this fight play out”. People are going to be a little upset in a stoppage that is abrupt and the other fighter was hurt more, but most importantly when it’s a championship fight.

Posted November 24, 2013 12:09 am 


Thrashnephilim

That combo in the first round reminded me of a prime Kessler! Groves was on the balls of his feet and while going backward he planted and stuck that nasty combo quick.

Posted November 23, 2013 11:26 pm 


Thrashnephilim

I think both guys proved their point somewhat. Groves is still green and maybe the ref did his long term career a favor because he seems pretty talented. Froch is resilient after eating a nasty combo full on and visibly getting up dazed and wobbly to come back. He’s got heart and will.

Posted November 23, 2013 11:20 pm 


Thrashnephilim

Nothing bad I think can be said for either guy. Groves said he was gonna hit him with the right, he sure did. Froch got blasted in round one and got back up off the deck and won as he predicted. The ref is either the face or the heel here.

Posted November 23, 2013 11:17 pm 


Demon

If we had a ref like that for Mc Clennan and Benn well Mc Clennan wud be able to go to the toilet on his own and not need a straw to drink his dinner. None of you here have fought in or out of the ring and I don’t blame you for that. Punches in the head hurt and hurt more when your tired. Groves has out on his feet and was going to be stopped. If the ref saved his career or life and you still want more blood?? Shower of cowards the lot of you.

Posted November 23, 2013 11:13 pm 


Thrashnephilim

I got to see Froch get piss punched in round 1. Didnt see the stoppage part yet.

Posted November 23, 2013 11:12 pm 


Frochy

TC – Yep it was a matter of time. George was tiring and Froch coming on strong like he always does. It was a pretty similar to the Taylor fight except it would’ve been over late in the 9th round or definitely the 10th if the ref hadn’t jumped in too early.

Groves very impressive though and like I said before he gave Froch a lot more problems than Ward, Taylor, Kessler and Dirrell in my opinion. But I’m sure that was down to Carl underestimating him. I suppose a rematch would answer that.

Posted November 23, 2013 10:54 pm 


Burt

Ward should stop being a coward and take the Froch fight in UK. It will be his biggest fight and biggest payday EVER. He needs to accept that no-one cares about his safety-first protected career. Froch is the big draw at 168 and at 36yo he won’t be around much longer.

Posted November 23, 2013 10:51 pm 


Frochy

Yet again Froch in a fan friendly fight. Always get your money’s worth with this warrior and he deserves respect of everybody. He was denied yet another rocky style victory of getting up off the canvass in 1st round to ice the unbeaten challenger late in the fight by a poor stoppage from the ref. Haters, it was the ref that stopped the fight not Carl who wanted to stop the fight in a different matter and he was 1 combo away from doing so.

Posted November 23, 2013 10:49 pm 


Tomato Can

lefthook, if you think the stoppage was correct, then I’m sure I’d agree.

Posted November 23, 2013 10:45 pm 


Tomato Can

Yup Ward’s scared to move up to 175, but Bear’s hero Froch gets a free pass to stay at 168, because he knows Froch is on borrowed time…

Posted November 23, 2013 10:44 pm 


lefhook

NIGEL, yOU NEED TO PUT THE BOTTLE DOWN N STOP GETTING HIGH ON YOUR OWN SUPPLY MAN FFS

Posted November 23, 2013 10:42 pm 


BEARS

ward needs to move up for kovalev and adonis and fighters that can provide excitement hopefully 3g squeezes him. kovalev vs ward is is ideal but wards scared. wards boring! too funny watching froch be the cashcow of the division and not ward. dude was complaining froch is called champ well froch is not just a champ he’s a cashcow sucka and ward aint

Posted November 23, 2013 10:40 pm 


lefhook

Forget the previous 8 rounds because in round 9 it don’t mean sh/t. Groves was one shot away from GETTING STRETCHED. I’m ALSO SURE ITS WAS A 12 ROUND FIGHT

Posted November 23, 2013 10:40 pm 


The Prince

Most refs are paid by promoters to protect their cash cow, especially overseas. This stoppage is no surprise. And forget about the Froch rematch against Ward. This fight proves that Ward would actually do better and possibly knock Froch out.

Posted November 23, 2013 10:29 pm 


Nigel

This was a typical example of a fixed fight, anybody notice how after froch was knocked down, his legs were wobbly for a while, the next round groves missed every punch by miles, he was blatantly told to make the fight longer, to entertain the fans! Then the first proper opportunity the ref ended it, groves lost his balance for a second bumps into the ref and ref calls it off, I own a pub and I had 50 ppl were disgusted!

Posted November 23, 2013 10:26 pm 


TARK

With a few skills, and a defense, Groves wins that fight easily… He’s still relatively young. He needs to buckle down like crazy and learn his craft.

Posted November 23, 2013 10:23 pm 


Tomato Can

Hey Frochy, long time no see, on the boards. I hope all is well with your and yours. I missed the fight, are you content with the result? It sounds as though your are.

Posted November 23, 2013 10:17 pm 


Howard Foster

In response to all the negative comments – that was a perfectly timed stoppage. I saw George’s eyes roll, his legs stiffened and he started to sag along the ropes. He was in no position to defend himself. My first priority is always the safety of the fighters.

Howard

Posted November 23, 2013 10:14 pm 


SREDMOND

The notion that Froch can compete with Ward is laughable, he needed a hometown stoppage to get out of the hole… Froch is a tough fighter but 168 pounds is a closed book till Ward decides to move up and let those boys breathe in that division..

Posted November 23, 2013 10:11 pm 


Frochy

Oh and as per usual on most of Carl’s fights we get fans saying Froch was getting a pasting. Just like Jim Watt and the bias Sky commentary. But as per usual look at Groves face. Took a bit of beating didn’t it? Yep!

Posted November 23, 2013 10:09 pm 


TARK

MD92…, “Ward’s two best wins came against a well past prime Kessler whose body has been falling apart on him since before the Mundine fight, by the time he fought Ward he was significantly worse than he was during his prime.”

Ward’s best win was his recent shutout of 24-0 Edwin Rodriguez… His 2nd best win was with a broken hand — over undefeated Froch. A near shutout win.

Ward had only 20 fights when he shutout and stopped the robotic Kessler—something Calzaghe couldn’t do.. Ward was green an not at his best—while Calzaghe was at his peak for a green Kessler.

You also said.., “Carl Froch is one of the most overrated fighters I can think of. He lost to a shadow of Kessler, was a few seconds away from losing to a shot Taylor.”

That robbery in Denmark means nothing.. Froch beat Kessler twice easily.. Besides, Kessler himself said he was better than EVER right before the 2nd Froch fight, when he was beaten to trash.. Kessler hadn’t fought ANYBODY when he fought Calzaghe but had a lot of experience going into Froch II. He was also years younger than Froch.

Froch wasn’t seconds away from losing to Taylor… Taylor was a trash bag ready for the dumpster… JT was beaten to a pulp in that fight.

Posted November 23, 2013 10:07 pm 


REMATCH

REMATCH

Posted November 23, 2013 10:06 pm 


Burt

LOL at the Ward fanboy comments. They’re so butt-hurt the so-called P4P No.2 (poo) can’t draw flies to a dump. Look at all the interest at Froch’s fights vs Groves, Kessler2, Bute. I think five people turned up to watch Ward-Rodriguez – and they were concessions.

Posted November 23, 2013 10:00 pm 


red

CRIMINAL !!
Just watched a crime there

Boxing is as corrupt now as it was then…
Just watch Ricky Burns fight followed by the Froch fight….
No wonder top fighters dont go near the UK..

Posted November 23, 2013 9:52 pm 


Frochy

Oh and Groves gave Carl Froch more problems than any other fighter he’s been in the ring with. But this might have been down to Carl underestimating him like I said before.

Posted November 23, 2013 9:45 pm 


Nicolas

What was the time of the stoppage. The ref has to make a call, and it is not as easy a choice as one might think. You are dammed if you stop it too early, and damned if you stop it too late. Groves won the night, and his status goes up. Froch won the match, but lost a lot of prestige. Hd that punch in the first round by Groves come a little earlier in the round, perhaps he would have stopped Froch. Froch I don’t think Froch had ever been that badly hurt. Finally, to call Froch a world champion, what a joke, when the real world Champion is Andre Ward. I guess the people who can call Froch the world champion think the fans are stupid, or are the fans complicit?

Posted November 23, 2013 9:43 pm 


PEEJ

Ward outclasses both of these white clowns.

Posted November 23, 2013 9:42 pm 


It’s Me, Ernie

Froch-Kessler are 1-1…

Posted November 23, 2013 9:41 pm 


Frochy

Well I’m a big Froch fan being a Nottingham man myself. First of all I’ve got to give great credit to George Groves who put on a great show of skills and toughness. He really is better than I thought he was or Carl underestimated him. I had it 6 rounds to 2 in favour of Groves after round 8 plus the knock down. Make no mistake about it though Froch was getting to Groves and it was just a matter of time before Groves hit the canvass. That said it was a shocking stoppage for a world title fight and it’s a stoppage that will hurt Carl more. A brutal finish from Carl would have left the contest in no doubt but because of the stoppage there has to be a rematch.

Posted November 23, 2013 9:38 pm 


badger

poor stoppage by ref. ward outclassed froch.

Posted November 23, 2013 9:33 pm 


gray

jay lets agree to disagree but lets look forward – froch is only getting older and after this should retire with his super hot wife property portfolio and live in the knowledge he did more than calzaghe to cement his status. groves however is a bonafide contender for andre ward who lets all agree on has run out of competition!!!

Posted November 23, 2013 9:31 pm 


Jay

There’s a new App coming out tomorrow called ‘Fix it Foster’, it’s one where it doesn’t matter how many times Grooves batters Froch he’s never going to win!

Posted November 23, 2013 9:30 pm 


gray

Jay – Froch was clearly behind by at least 5 points also should have been docked at least 1 point for fouling but the tide was turning – yes it was a little premature but groves was hurt. but as you say groves stock has gone up but and remeber this but thanks to howard foster he lives to fight another day!!!!

Posted November 23, 2013 9:27 pm 


Tony1244

Early stoppage. Good fight. Neither Groves nor Froch could beat Ward, Sergio Martinez, or GGG.

Posted November 23, 2013 9:24 pm 


Jay

Spot the Froch fans. . . The guy was beaten and well done to the ref!! That was the only way he was going to win, harsh and quick referring judgement or dodgy score cards! Grooves weren’t hurt and was easily going to finish the fight whatever the decision was going to be! Froch was not prepared and well beaten, the score cards we’re compete rubbish in my opinion, Froch may have won two rounds at most!!

Posted November 23, 2013 9:23 pm 


BEARS

the fight was great and the stoppage sound. groces couldnt hild up to the accumulation of froch bombs or F-bombs. groces capitulated under the accumulation. groves was hurt multiple times in that fight

Posted November 23, 2013 9:23 pm 


Burt

There was definitely a robbery tonite. We got robbed of seeing Groves pummelled into unconsciousness.

Posted November 23, 2013 9:22 pm 


Swedish Boxing Fan

Well this was a poor choise of action for the referee Howard John Foster, he should not have jumped in so soon. Of course it is the referee’s biggest job to check the boxers best health to see that the boxer is able to fight on and he had the heart at right spot here but not the right timing. However I still feel the worst referee call in years was back in October 15, 2011 when Bernard Hopkins defended the World light heavyweight title against Chad Dawson and Dawson in the 2nd round wrestle thowed Hopkins down to the canvas so badly that Hopkins got injured to his right hand shoulder and could not continue to fight propertly – The referee calls that ILLEGAL move as a “punch” and gives Dawson a TKO decision victory (?), that was just outrageous badly call BUT thank the Athletic Commision to have some brain to change the fight result to a No Contest NC decision as it should have been in first place to begin with. So I can forgive Howard john Foster more than Pat Russel’s poore judgment. Still sadly for George Groves to lose like that.

Posted November 23, 2013 9:19 pm 


Jay

Gray, let’s look at this fight, the odds on grooves at the start, Froch was 1/4, huge payout to Grooves fans on a victory, the score cards which I’m sorry didn’t add up if we were watching the same fight and how many times did Froch want to mention the referees decision and quality of the ref and how right he was with the stoppage, such a load of crap! There was only one winner for me and the fight was a total fix and Grooves was robbed!!

Posted November 23, 2013 9:18 pm 


Burt

LOL at all the outrage. The fight went exactly as expected. Groves had his chances early but was getting ground down. Froch is a 12 round fighter and was getting on top. Groves was getting buzzed and entering danger territory. He would not have seen the final bell. Judging by the comments, most of you didn’t even watch the fight.

Posted November 23, 2013 9:17 pm 


gray

the last thing i say on this is if you were the referee and there was a choice between potentially upsetting 20 thousand fans or seeing a guy beaten to a vegetable of death ( especially in light of the accidents lately) if i was howard foster i would be able to sleep well tonight!

Posted November 23, 2013 9:15 pm 


Anonymous

complete joke,the biggest con job since haye pulled his toe nail.

Posted November 23, 2013 9:08 pm 


gray

jay why would eddie hearn or the people at the top want a rigged fight in the favour of froch – froch only had one fight left after groves which was a ward rematch which he would be a huge underdog – any rigging would be on the guy on the way up. the ref called it how he saw it – groves was slowing and taking flush punches -yeah it was premature but this wasn’t chavez vs taylor with 2 seconds left there was 3 1/2 rounds left in a very violent fight

Posted November 23, 2013 9:07 pm 


Johno

Groves was about to get ko’ed end of!!! Anyone who thinks otherwise is deluded

Posted November 23, 2013 9:05 pm 


lefhook

No wonder Froch was struggling to get a foot hold in the fight, he took a murderous right hand totally square on in the opening round. You gotta give credit there that would have ended most fights, WHAT A CHIN. Groves fought well but missed his chance and was a few punches away from getting badly KO’D. The kid gets out safe and able to fight another day but this Froch had no right to come back from where he was. HARD AS FCKIN NAILS

Posted November 23, 2013 9:02 pm 


gray

anonymous is right – infact if degale is in manchester i would put money on both froch or groves to smash degale after a quick piss and protein shake after that fight

Posted November 23, 2013 8:59 pm 


Jay

Froch knew either the judges would favour him or a stoppage with a big punch. Grooves well and truly beat him, maybe one round to Froch but that fight was one of the biggest rigged fixed decisions I ever seen and the bookies were going to have to pay so much money on the result of a boxer who deserved every penny and worked non stop!! My heart goes out to Grooves, robbed!! And Froch lost what little respect he deserves in his after match speech. A complete fix and chances of a rematch-course not!! Why would Froch want to leave boxing with no titles like HE SHOULD HAVE TONIGHT!! The match was a COMPLETE FIX, the judges score cards- WTF!! Daylight robbery!!! And the boxing board knew it! The whole country knows who won the fight tonight and should have been a new 25 year old champion!! Well done to corruption in boxing yet again!!!!!

Posted November 23, 2013 8:58 pm 


J

Froch knew either the judges would favour him or a stoppage with a big punch. Grooves well and truly beat him, maybe one round to Froch but that fight was one of the biggest rigged fixed decisions I ever seen and the bookies were going to have to pay so much money on the result of a boxer who deserved every penny and worked non stop!! My heart goes out to Grooves, robbed!! And Froch lost what little respect he deserves in his after match speech. A complete fix and chances of a rematch-course not!! Why would Froch want to leave boxing with no titles like HE SHOULD HAVE TONIGHT!! The match was a COMPLETE FIX, the judges score cards- WTF!! Daylight robbery!!! And the boxing board knew it! The whole country knows who won the fight tonight and should have been a new 25 year old champion!! Well done to corruption in boxing yet again!!!!!

Posted November 23, 2013 8:57 pm 


gray

anonymous has a point – that fight was a long way from beating dyas davis in a shopping centre.

Posted November 23, 2013 8:54 pm 


Anonymous

at least there better than that sack of sh#t degale.

Posted November 23, 2013 8:51 pm 


gray

reminds of Lewis Vs Klitscko a fight where a guy who was way ahead got stopped prematurely aganist a guy who was turning the tide. i turned to my dad at the start of the 9th and said the ref will stop this at the first chance he gets either way as this isnt a fight its pure violence and someone is going to get hurt. any true fight fan will be happy that it was a great fight, both guys are still healthy, both made some good money, frochs reputaation as the hardest chin going is intact and groves is the obvious contender to challenge andre ward. everyone wins!!!

Posted November 23, 2013 8:50 pm 


Anonymous

Gutted

Posted November 23, 2013 8:49 pm 


igba

IT WAS THE CORRECT STOPPAGE THE REF MIGHT HAVE SAVED GROVES CARRIER BCOS HE WOULD HAVE BEEN BRUTALLY KNOCKED OUT HIS LEGS ARE GONE CONDITIONING IS THE KEY WHEN YOU’RE FIGHTING PEOPLE ON TOP OF THE FOOD CHAIN. I KNOW ONE THING FOR SURE GROVES IS NOT IN DE GALE’S CLASS

Posted November 23, 2013 8:45 pm 


frochyboxey

groves was hurt at the end, arms hanging stopped punching, froch had him bad, shame it was not left for froch to drop him

Posted November 23, 2013 8:44 pm 


Brian

You’re right about Mikkel Kessler’s body falling apart on him MD92. His injury problems are well documented. He’s been on a steep decline since 2008.

Watch this video from before when he fought Markus Beyer.

youtube.com/watch?v=stxqha-rvvA

Posted November 23, 2013 8:41 pm 


spartacrust

I’m a froch fan…and I can say that groves won every single round until he got stopped by a shocking decision…this young lad dominated froch to every punch!!!!!! Lost a lot of respect for froch, its as if he didn’t train for the fight!…very impressed with groves and I see him winning the rematch by ko. Just shocked right now…Carl was staggered many times and the fight wasn’t stopped, groves got hurt twice and on the second time the fight was stopped…froch lost a few fans tonight, groves earned thousands

Posted November 23, 2013 8:41 pm 


scarsese

Andy ruiz jr. on the ppv!

Posted November 23, 2013 8:37 pm 


Popkins

Tark …. Boxers almost always claim they have improved, or are stronger in sum way, in the run up to any fight. The undefeated WBA/WBC champion that fought Calzaghe SIX YEARS ago was undoubtedly a superior fighter to the sloppy, slower, damaged, twice defeated version that BEAT Froch in Denmark three years later.

Posted November 23, 2013 8:37 pm 


MD92

Ward’s really overrated as well. His two best wins came against a well past prime Kessler whose body has been falling apart on him since before the Mundine fight, by the time he fought Ward he was significantly worse than he was during his prime.

Carl Froch is one of the most overrated fighters I can think of. He lost to a shadow of Kessler, was a few seconds away from losing to a shot Taylor, scraped by Pascal in a close one, should’ve lost to Dirrell, got beat by Ward, and was well on his way to an emphatic loss against an inexperienced Groves before the referee saved his bacon.

Dawson was extremely weight drained.

Abraham’s form is woeful at 168. He didn’t just struggle against every decent fighter he fought at that weight, he struggled against almost every hand picked bum they lined up for him as well.

Allan Green is a terrible fighter, never beat anyone world class.

The Bika fight was much, much closer than the judges had it. And that was a very rusty inactive Bika.

Miranda was shot.

Posted November 23, 2013 8:34 pm 


Boxtradamus

Groves is still AMATEUR level . His defense is POROUS. Go hire Floyd Mayweather Sr. IF you don’t DO that then hire Guillermo Rigondeaux’s coach. He had Cotto’s Defense BETTER than it had ever been in his LIFE when he faced Floyd.

Posted November 23, 2013 8:34 pm 


badger

great match. very corrupt ref.

Posted November 23, 2013 8:31 pm 


Boxtradamus

The white guy WINS just as I predicted!!!! I am the GREATEST Fight Prophet ever born!!!!

Posted November 23, 2013 8:28 pm 


Boxtradamus

Froch WINS just as I predicted!!!! I am the GREATEST Fight Prophet ever born!!!!

Posted November 23, 2013 8:27 pm 


Popkins

The 2008 Hopkins that Calzaghe beat wud definitely hav toyed with Froch.

Posted November 23, 2013 8:27 pm 


TARK

Kessler never beat Froch… That robbery in Denmark was the pitts… Froch showed who the boss was in the rematch.

Kessler also said he was a better fighter for Froch than when he lost to Calzaghe.., “It’s true I’m not the same fighter. My defense is much better. My speed is better. I move my head better. My footwork is better. I’m a much better fighter now … and Froch will find this out.”

Froch didn’t need any help vs Taylor. He was jet lagged, but started putting his fight together in the 6th round. I had Carl ahead at the stoppage. Taylor had 2 corrupt judges giving him rounds. Froch definitely landed cleaner and harder from the 6th on.

Ward kicked Froch’s ass. Dirrell kicked his ass. Groves had Froch beat. But GG is far from a finished product … a defender he’s not.

Posted November 23, 2013 8:26 pm 


hookoffthejab

And this is not the 1st time Froch has had his ears boxed off for 6 rounds or more………And then came back to win ……….

Posted November 23, 2013 8:25 pm 


Furious Tyson

Peej. Not that it matters but Andre Ward is mixed race. His Dad is white

Posted November 23, 2013 8:25 pm 


slim prickman

well we now know that british refs are worse than the yanks.

Posted November 23, 2013 8:25 pm 


Popkins

Nobody is going to want to see Froch v Ward now, or even a third Kessler fight. It’s either retirement or Groves again for the Cobra

Posted November 23, 2013 8:25 pm 


froch sucks

Lets not forget the Score Cards them judges were on the way to Rob groves Even If it went 12

Posted November 23, 2013 8:24 pm 


Absolutia

The fight may have been stopped 2 or 3 punches too soon, but if a fighter’s head is being snapped backwards and sideways and he’s not re-focusing on his opponent, it’s a good indication that he’s had enough – whether the fighter agrees or not.

Still looked little premature for me though.

Posted November 23, 2013 8:23 pm 


Tomato Can

@ Domino, pure Wigger here.

Posted November 23, 2013 8:23 pm 


Furious Tyson

All of you people slagging Froch are just dumb. He won the fight. It may have been stopped a bit early but it was only a matter of time. You have to remember…it was a 12 round fight and Froch was seriously taking charge. Froch is probably one of the toughest ever boxers.

Give credit where its due and stop being thick.

Posted November 23, 2013 8:23 pm 


hookoffthejab

froch sucks

Next time If groves keeps patient. He will Win every round. A far better boxer than Froch. Chrish Froch is luck he never got to fight calzaghe……………Since when has Carl Froch been a great boxer ……….?………

Posted November 23, 2013 8:22 pm 


PEEJ

Ward is better than either of these sad, wanking white guys. Whites can’t box.

Posted November 23, 2013 8:22 pm 


hookoffthejab

Groves has a lot of athletic ability he still needs a lot of work on his game ……..If i were Groves I would chase after the winner of the Bika Dirrel fight …………….

Posted November 23, 2013 8:21 pm 


froch sucks

Next time If groves keeps patient. He will Win every round. A far better boxer than Froch. Chrish Froch is luck he never got to fight calzaghe

Posted November 23, 2013 8:21 pm 


Domino

Are you black Tomato Can?

Posted November 23, 2013 8:21 pm 


Popkins

Looks like Saint George will be the favourite to beat Froch if they have a rematch!

Posted November 23, 2013 8:20 pm 


Tomato Can

a star is born? This guy’s going to be pound for pound? This guy will KO Ward? What did I miss, didn’t Groves get TKO’d?

Posted November 23, 2013 8:18 pm 


PEEJ IMPERSONATOR

SAD BLACK COON.

Posted November 23, 2013 8:18 pm 


red

CRIMINAL !!
Just watched a crime there

Boxing is as corrupt now as it was then…
Just watch Rick Burns fight followed by the Froch fight….
No wonder top fighters dont go near the UK..

Posted November 23, 2013 8:17 pm 


PEEJ

Two slow white guys that SOG would decision over 12, 120-108. I don’t know why anyone is excited after watching these bums.

Posted November 23, 2013 8:17 pm 


TJ

ANONYMOUS don’t be picking fights you can’t win. Hiding behind your Anonymous handle, go s8ck yourself off! as that is the only thing you are good at as no one else would look at such a t*sser like yourself.

Posted November 23, 2013 8:16 pm 


boxing barlow

A star is born in Groves! This guy dealt with froch better than Ward did!

Posted November 23, 2013 8:16 pm 


Brit Boxing

You forget that Groves was seriously tired, Groves was out of it, he had shot his bolt trying to KO Froch, he was to get sparked completely out like the Bute fight.

Posted November 23, 2013 8:14 pm 


hookoffthejab

Great fight shame about the ending …….

Posted November 23, 2013 8:13 pm 


matthews

And Froch would beat Hopkins, yeah right.

Posted November 23, 2013 8:12 pm 


UFC DIESEL

The Lone Ranger George Groves has the potential for being pound for pound. He did this on his own…all the lead up, last minute trainer in a small old fashioned gym. This man is the true warrior. Froch is just a slugger and someone who likes to jerk off at his own voice..

Posted November 23, 2013 8:12 pm 


Anonymous

TJ

If anyone is a scum bag it’s you!!!

Posted November 23, 2013 8:11 pm 


Furious Tyson

Groves fought fantastically well but the fight played out as everyone expected. We all thought Groves would be winning at the half way point and Froch would wear him down and stop him late in the fight.

My first impressions were that the fight appeared to be stopped a bit early, but after watching the replays I’m not so sure, plus I think Froch would have totally knocked Groves out if it was allowed to carry on. No-one wants to see Groves get seriously hurt. He proved he is a quality fighter and he can come again.

As for Carl Froch – He is just one very tough man.

Posted November 23, 2013 8:10 pm 


spot banks

All credit to groves. No one expected him to look so good. Ref ruined a great fight,

Posted November 23, 2013 8:10 pm 


Brit Boxing

Froch is a 12 round fighter, doesn’t matter if he was behind in a couple of fights, he stopped the opponent and won.

Posted November 23, 2013 8:10 pm 


Popkins

Great fight. …. Froch is an excellent fighter. But tonight was more proof that Calzaghe would have schooled him.

Posted November 23, 2013 8:09 pm 


TJ

FIGHT AFICIANADO, I totally agree with you….right now EDDIE HEARN is org8sming at the thought of a big-money rematch.

I grew up with us blaming the Italians in the 80’s as impossible to get a decision there and then the Germans over the last 15/20 years, but over the last few years I have seen some seriously poor, some seriously dubious and seriously bogus decisions, reffing in my own country, UK….

Like every other sport, the more success we have, the more it seems that we will do anything possible to maintain and increase that success, by fair means or foul.

Boxing has to police itself better and if our fighter is caning another one fairly, then good, but if he is getting help from the ref or judges then it needs to be stamped out.

The crowd booed out, what was probably the best fight in a
British ring for many a long year, because we had a terrible ending!
They instantly forgot some fierce exchanges over many of the rounds, due to an inept, but not a malicious reffing judgement…

GROVES has come out of this in a far better position than he went in, as the crowd got behind him for his gallant effort, but if he had been given a few seconds more her would either have rallied or been stretched out, stone cold—- therefore, no one is satisfied at this ending!!!

Tomorrow morning St Groves, will say, ‘Heck, I lost, but I have gained several fans and a massive payday down the road!”

Sad truth is he is a good fighter, but like David HAYE is a scumbag outside the ring!

Posted November 23, 2013 8:09 pm 


froch sucks

Prob Worst decisión ever. Froch is Awful limited . Schooled by a novice and got every decisión.

Posted November 23, 2013 8:08 pm 


J J Coburn

All Hail the New King Saint George Groves! Froch had a good reign but boxing politics keeps him in as champ. But the public knows and deep inside him Froch knows too. Time to quit Froch

Posted November 23, 2013 8:08 pm 


red

CRIMINAL !!
Just watched a crime there

Boxing is as corrupt now as it was then…
Just watch Rick Burns fight followed by the Froch fight….
No wonder top fighters dont go near the UK..

Posted November 23, 2013 8:07 pm 


Anonymous

I’m a Froch fan but I’ve been saying for ages that he’s overrated.

He was losing the Taylor fight.

Went life and death with Dirrell.

He lost to a way past prime Kessler who was clearly never the same after the Calzaghe fight and suffering all those injuries.

Bute had a poor camp and seemed extremely nervous and badly out of sorts during his ring walk for Froch. He lost that fight before he climbed into the ring.

Ward beat him.

He struggled against an old Johnson.

Abraham is terrible up at super middle.

Kessler was even more shot than he was when he fought Froch the first time in their rematch.

And now Froch needed a gift stoppage to get past Groves.

The Pascal win was great and digging himself out of trouble against Taylor over in America was also commendable, but he could realistically have lost almost half of his fights up at world class if luck wasn’t on his side.

Posted November 23, 2013 8:06 pm 


big moe

Gift stoppage…froch was losing. If grooves were in better shape froch would have lost. Cant fault froch for groovrs unpreparedness. Conditioning is a key element in this sport. But fo sho a gift stoppage.

Posted November 23, 2013 8:05 pm 


Brit Boxing

Boxing is about taking punches as well as avoiding them, the punch he took from Groves would of knocked Ward out cold.

Posted November 23, 2013 8:04 pm 


TARK

Groves has potential—but he needs a strength trainer and a better boxing coach.

George had the fight wrapped up. His offense is okay—but he’s not a good defender… He needs to tighten his stance up, get his head back, smoother and smarter footwork, and stronger defensive skills all around… He’s about where Wladimir was when he started working with Emmanuel Steward.

It’s a ton of work. He’s more than 2 years away from being the whole package. David Haye and the Dirrell brothers have worked with Groves … They say he has the raw talent to become a world champion eventually.

Posted November 23, 2013 8:01 pm 


Tachyon

Based on comments looks like groves missed his chance after dropping Froch in the first round and not finishing him off in the second.

Posted November 23, 2013 8:01 pm 


boxing barlow

Froch is a chump. I disliked him from the days he was calling out calzaghe but was won over by his all action style yet he showes he had no class at the end of this fight. Groves went in being booed and came out being cheered and rightfully so.

Posted November 23, 2013 8:00 pm 


JoeKidd

Is this the same promoter that protected Burns recently? If so, the guy has balls!

Posted November 23, 2013 8:00 pm 


Killing Moon The Soothsayer

theyiddo : Again I too would have preferred the fight to go on…But Groves legs were gone,he was hanging on the ropes.being pummeled on (Looked like a repeat of Bute).and looked like going down…Should have taken a knee instead of taking punishment…

I honestly feel the ref was justified in stopping it…Even if i too feel there were more fight there…It wouldn’t have happened without Groves either taking a knee or being knocked down..

Posted November 23, 2013 8:00 pm 


Anonymous

Froch had one round max.

Posted November 23, 2013 7:59 pm 


UFC DIESELi

George Groves is the Real Deal! He made Froch look sloppy and slow. Froch did his usual Politician style remarks after…Totally deluded. Groves baked him up and hurt him every round. Froch needs the approval of his team and the audience. Groves was truly alone in the fight and build up. Abandoned by Booth and choosing no hangers on. This boy is a man, Froch is full of it

Posted November 23, 2013 7:59 pm 


Gonzo The @rsebreath of Nazareth

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Strive to be better. Strive to be more. Strive to be amazing.

Posted November 23, 2013 7:58 pm 


elbilly

In answer to someone about the crowd booing froch, that’s because he refused to shake hands at the end, shows all the class of a D class fighter that he is. I wish I had seen that guy on his face tonight, next time groves won’t be so inexperienced and will make an easy night of it. can’t question the guys chin now as he took some huge shots and came through them. also did you hear 2 of the judges had it 76-75 groves?? wtf?? froch had one perhaps 2 rounds if i’m generous.

Posted November 23, 2013 7:56 pm 


Fight Aficionado

All the Brits talking about how fights are fixed in Vegas can quiet down now…

Posted November 23, 2013 7:56 pm 


Brit Boxing

Groves would beat Ward, probably by KO, but Froch is too strong, his chin won him that fight, Groves could not crack it and he tired..

Posted November 23, 2013 7:56 pm 


Brit Boxing

Groves would beat Ward, probably by KO, but Froch is too strong, his chin won him that fight, Groves could not crack it and he tired

Posted November 23, 2013 7:55 pm 


nzrdb6

Great fight. Froch was slowly out-toughing Groves but we don’t know for sure. West the appetite for the rematch. Great guts shown by each guy. Much respect.

Posted November 23, 2013 7:54 pm 


bling

bookies cookies and rookies

Posted November 23, 2013 7:53 pm 


Killing Moon The Soothsayer

Lenin : Will watch it on Youtube when it’s up….Hernandez is good…But he’s a target for anyone who can go 12…Guess alekseev couldn’t…

Posted November 23, 2013 7:52 pm 


Anonymous

Of course the ref is an idiot stopping the match. Froch was in trouble during the whole match and got a few punches in and is on top for a few seconds, but nothing indicated that a killer pinch was coming up. Crowd hated him because he defended the ref decision.

Posted November 23, 2013 7:51 pm 


markuspd

Froch is not getting the respect he deserves for coming back from hell.
Watching the replay Groves was in serious trouble and Froch was coming on strong it was not the worst stoppage I`ve seen, by far.
Froch was doing more than the commentators saw the whole fight, look at Groves face.
Groves would be utterly disappointed as he won easy the majority of the fight but its a 12 round fight and Froch had him in the end was finally backing him up and landing bombs, no way Groves was gonna take much more and Froch was walking through his shots.

Posted November 23, 2013 7:51 pm 


Brit Boxing

Groves would probably beat Ward, knock him out, but Froch can’t be knocked out, that punch in round 1 would of stopped Ward and nearly all fighters. styles make fights.

Posted November 23, 2013 7:50 pm 


TJ

Froch stops Grove and the WINNER is EDDIE HEARN! He is already rubbing his hands just like that old b*stard ROB Arum is right now in Macau at the prospect of getting this rematch done.

Posted November 23, 2013 7:49 pm 


Hol

Froch is dilusinal,like i said in my previous comments he’s had that much smoke blown up his arse he honestly thinks he’s an ATG,what a tossa

Posted November 23, 2013 7:49 pm 


Tachyon

Wow thanks for the update killing moon!!

Posted November 23, 2013 7:49 pm 


King Leonidas MN

Terrible call by the ref! Groves was CLEARLY winning until the stoppage and deserved the benefit of the doubt. He fought his heart out and clearly won the hearts and minds of the fans. Disgusted by the call. Rematch? Without a doubt. Sad for Groves.

Posted November 23, 2013 7:49 pm 


Killing Moon The Soothsayer

Real punch…Froch was out of it..In survival mode could barely walk to his corner…First recovered in round 3…Froch never looked good(Does he ever?)
But there were signs he would come strong in the end…Still a smarter boxer than Groves would have danced and taken a knee when he was in trouble….Real talent Groves…But sadly not that smart…Everyone knows Froch is a killer at the later stages of a fight…

Posted November 23, 2013 7:47 pm 


bling

cookies for the bookies

Posted November 23, 2013 7:46 pm 


Anonymous

Shame, shame, shame on you ref. You should have let FROCH nail this kid into the ground!
Why not let George be carried out on a stretcher? There was one more minute in the round that Carl could have teed off on his bonce. Like the poster said below George is crying. Boo hoo!

Posted November 23, 2013 7:46 pm 


theyiddo

Killing Moon The Soothsayer….the thing is, Groves was fighting back. He’d just thrown 2 punches at Froch when the ref stopped it. Total bull.

Posted November 23, 2013 7:45 pm 


JoeKidd

You’d have to shoot the British cash cow to get a victory in UK. And makes sure there’s no twitching! All parties were involved in protecting the cash cow. Even the judges had the Groves massacre close. However, I still believed that man Froch would have knocked him out eventually. The guy is a zombie!

Posted November 23, 2013 7:45 pm 


Gonzo The @rsebreath of Nazareth

bruno that is people everywhere

Posted November 23, 2013 7:45 pm 


badger

test

Posted November 23, 2013 7:45 pm 


Gonzo The @rsebreath of Nazareth

Degeale will get all lippy now and call out Froch.

Posted November 23, 2013 7:44 pm 


Brunosjabber

Can’t believe how fickle that crowd are in Manchester – why are they booing Froch? – he can’t control what the ref does in the fight. Big respect to Groves after that but zero respect for a shallow fickle pathetic Manchester crowd. Shame on those who booed.

Posted November 23, 2013 7:44 pm 


Lenin

Killing Moon: Hernandez still had problems, but that’s also because Alekseev put him und pressure. Alekseev went forward through the fire and was down twice in earlier rounds before Hernandez knocked him out in round 10. Good fight, lots of action.

Posted November 23, 2013 7:44 pm 


Tachyon

What groves put Froch down in the first? Was it a real punch or lame push down?

Posted November 23, 2013 7:43 pm 


Anonymous

Oh, dear, George Groves is crying! Good!
Khama is so cool!

Dear, dear, wipe your eyes kid. There’s always James DeGale.

Posted November 23, 2013 7:42 pm 


Killing Moon The Soothsayer

How about Henandez… stamina problems gone?…Last time I saw him he was tiring in the third round…

Posted November 23, 2013 7:42 pm 


Lenin

Sorry, I meant KO in round 10.

Posted November 23, 2013 7:39 pm 


dwc

Maybe after the Perez-Mago fight the ref was being more carefull.But Groves is still young and proved himself tonight…he will fight another day…and will be one to watch..great fight overall!!!

Posted November 23, 2013 7:38 pm 


Lenin

Hernandez won by KO in round 9.

Posted November 23, 2013 7:38 pm 


TJ

WHEN, OH WHEN are we going to realise that our so-called British referees are inept and have been for a very long while now….

When I heard Howard Foster was the ref, I raised an eyebrow, but Ian John LEWIS was recently involved in a horrible stoppage, out the blue, I think this was the Enzo Maccarinelli bout.

We’ve had poor reffing on several occasions, sometimes IMHO deliberately impeding the non- house fighter, and late interventions as well as horribly early interventions in favour of the house-fighter….

We used to have the best refs right up to the 90’s but now we have ditherers and refs who are self-important! Heck, we even had a ref, ref 7 or 8 consecutive fights for the same WBU Champion, who I will not name, a few years back, which could be called a conflict of interest at best or suspect at worse.

We like to slate other refs, but our refs are very poor, very poor indeed!

Posted November 23, 2013 7:38 pm 


Lenin

Hernandez just won a war vs. Alekseev. Both were hurt more than once during the fight. Good bout!

Posted November 23, 2013 7:37 pm 


Anonymous

Froch you piece of crap. George you’re a star, you boxed beautifully. Ref saved Froch!

Posted November 23, 2013 7:36 pm 


Killing Moon The Soothsayer

LMAO…At the outrage….Should the fight have continued in my opinion ..YES….But Groves legs was gone FFS…He should have taken a knee…Instead he let Froch pound on him on the robes and if you’re not hitting back any decent ref will stop it…Sorry…but it’s the truth…

Posted November 23, 2013 7:35 pm 


Gonzo The @rsebreath of Nazareth

Or just the Goose.

Posted November 23, 2013 7:35 pm 


Tomato Can

The truth is, if I saw the fight, I probably would have agreed with the stoppage.

Posted November 23, 2013 7:35 pm 


Bubba

Groves doesn’t have a good chin. Should’ve continued boxing and he started trading. Haha Silly boy. The stoppage was good his legs were completely gone. It was just a matter of seconds untill he was going to get brutally knocked out.

Posted November 23, 2013 7:33 pm 


Gonzo The @rsebreath of Nazareth

Georges nickname should be the mongoose

Posted November 23, 2013 7:33 pm 


John

I predicted that Froch would beat Groves. I was correct.

Posted November 23, 2013 7:32 pm 


psy

The ref was looking to stop it within about 2 seconds of Froch landing a significant punch

Posted November 23, 2013 7:32 pm 


BEARS

*this is NOT one of the most controversial calls i have ever seen.

Posted November 23, 2013 7:32 pm 


The Judge

Total rip off Groves took Froch apart.

Posted November 23, 2013 7:31 pm 


psy

Stoppage was far too early, Groves was fighting back and hadn’t even taken that many punches. Thankfully Carl is man enough to give Groves a rematch.

Posted November 23, 2013 7:31 pm 


BEARS

tomato-the ref was stopping the action a lot. the crowd was boo’ing about it too. i gues the thousands in attendence are making up ref stuff for there guy too. dummy

Posted November 23, 2013 7:30 pm 


PEEJ

BEARS stole the fight. Now he knows how Groves feels.

Posted November 23, 2013 7:30 pm 


Killing Moon The Soothsayer

Ouch…Groves was going down, make no doubt about that…But to stop it…Wow!! Crazy!!…He was winning…Froch was getting outbullied in the earlier rounds…But he’s just such a force in the late rounds…Groves should have danced…I’m guessing there’ll be a 2nd fight…

Posted November 23, 2013 7:30 pm 


Anonymous

What a total crock of crap. Froch got saved by the ref! George Groves was winning easily.

Posted November 23, 2013 7:29 pm 


theyiddo

Groves hadn’t hit the deck. Yes he was hurt, but he was still firing out plenty of punches. Joke.

Posted November 23, 2013 7:29 pm 


Tomato Can

It sounds as though the ref screwed Groves. Where’s Bear’s complaints about that? Very Predictable… In any case, the fans will probably demand a rematch…

Posted November 23, 2013 7:28 pm 


GONZO OF NAZARETH

Boxing is a dirty sport, id rather watch WWE

Posted November 23, 2013 7:28 pm 


BEARS

i wouldnt say groves was robbed he was hurt and getting lit up. its a judgement call. this is one of the most controversial calls i have seen.

Posted November 23, 2013 7:28 pm 


The Judge

Groves was robbed

Posted November 23, 2013 7:27 pm 


theyiddo

Howard Foster should never ref again.

Posted November 23, 2013 7:26 pm 


Gonzo The @rsebreath of Nazareth

Good stoppage win for Froch.

Posted November 23, 2013 7:26 pm 


PEEJ

Groves robbed. I would beat both of these white bums.

Posted November 23, 2013 7:26 pm 


theyiddo

Disgraceful decision by the ref.

Posted November 23, 2013 7:25 pm 


Gonzo The @rsebreath of Nazareth

LOL @ PEEJ

Posted November 23, 2013 7:25 pm 


Tomato Can

Peej, yup there’s some insane multi poster invading these boards.

Posted November 23, 2013 7:24 pm 


BEARS

THEY STOPPED IT THEY STOPPED IT!!!!!! FROCH WINS!!!! BAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAH WHAT A FIGHT WHAT A FIGHT!!!!!!! KID GOT HIS CHIN CHECK!!!!!!!!!

Posted November 23, 2013 7:24 pm 


BEARS

FROCH WINS!!!

Posted November 23, 2013 7:23 pm 


Gonzo The @rsebreath of Nazareth

Groves has been walloped

Posted November 23, 2013 7:23 pm 


PEEJ

I’m not watching this fight. Someone is posting under my name

Posted November 23, 2013 7:22 pm 


Tomato Can

LoL@ Bears, always finds a way for the Ref or the opponent of the guy he wants to win, screwing up the fight, so his guy loses… Very predictable.

Posted November 23, 2013 7:22 pm 


Brunosjabber

What an incredible fight this is turning into – an epic battle

Posted November 23, 2013 7:21 pm 


PEEJ

Ward will beat Groves. 120-109.

Posted November 23, 2013 7:21 pm 


GONZO OF NAZARETH

Groves will beat Ward

Posted November 23, 2013 7:19 pm 


PEEJ

Welsh f@g, I bet you were a Calslappy fan. Good to hear Haye ringside. This lad was one of the greats. And half black too.

Posted November 23, 2013 7:18 pm 


BEARS

ref is screwing froch over and keeps stopping the action when groves is hurt. ABSOLUTE GARBAGE MUST BE BIG MONEY ON GROVES

Posted November 23, 2013 7:18 pm 


c.morgan

This fight is much better than anyone thought it was going to be.

George groves has shown a chin, world class skills and a true world class puncher..he’s had Froch badly hurt more than anyone else Froch has fought

Posted November 23, 2013 7:17 pm 


theyiddo

4 rounds to Groves (1 KD), 2 even, 1 Froch.

Posted November 23, 2013 7:16 pm 


DUMBO

@PEEJ,I,M WELSH YOU THICK UNCUTHED TW@T,NOW F@K OF TO THE BUSH

Posted November 23, 2013 7:15 pm 


Tomato Can

Sounds like a Rocky style fight. Lots of leather catching…

Posted November 23, 2013 7:14 pm 


PEEJ

Feels pretty good to steal, doesn’t it, BEARS?

Posted November 23, 2013 7:14 pm 


GONZO OF NAZARETH

Gonzo of nazareth is a fraud please disregard his posts

Posted November 23, 2013 7:13 pm 


PEEJ

DUMBO is an English f@g.

Posted November 23, 2013 7:13 pm 


BEARS

what a fight!!! what a fight!!!!! froch is BLASTING groves and groves started show boating and got totally CHIN CHECKED!!!!! groves is taking some serious leather now!!!

Posted November 23, 2013 7:12 pm 


Gonzo The @rsebreath of Nazareth

I have the fight a draw.

Posted November 23, 2013 7:11 pm 


PEEJ

5-1 Froch.

Posted November 23, 2013 7:11 pm 


Tony1244

Froch isn’t what he use to be either. Ward is better. But I like both boys. Class acts.

Posted November 23, 2013 7:11 pm 


GONZO OF NAZARETH

No rounds for froch, his shots were getting blocked

Posted November 23, 2013 7:10 pm 


Killing Moon The Soothsayer

5th draw 49 – 46…Froch is in it now…Still isn’t hitting much neither was Groves…

Posted November 23, 2013 7:08 pm 


Tony1244

Thrash, I agree. Boystov was a much better fighter when he beat Jason Gavern a few years back. Boystov looked terrible. Something happened there.

Posted November 23, 2013 7:08 pm 


boxing barlow

Wow what a fight! 5 – 1 groves

Posted November 23, 2013 7:08 pm 


Gonzo The @rsebreath of Nazareth

Now Ward will have to look at a different opponent to haggle with .

Posted November 23, 2013 7:06 pm 


Killing Moon The Soothsayer

4rd Groves—39 – 36 …Groves won but imo Froch is starting to look like Froch…We’ll see if it’s enough…

Posted November 23, 2013 7:05 pm 


BEARS

I GETTING pretty tired of groves using his head. how many plays from wards playbook is groves gonna use???? garbage no wonder froch slapped that biatch when the ref said break

Posted November 23, 2013 7:05 pm 


PEEJ

Froch, ruined by the great SOG. Limited white guy to begin with.

Posted November 23, 2013 7:04 pm 


GONZO OF SCROTUMNEATH

Groves is winning comfortably

Posted November 23, 2013 7:04 pm 


PEEJ

Dude is using my name again. Weak. Can’t come up with his own name

Posted November 23, 2013 7:03 pm 


PEEJ

Crowd full of typical English f@gs. Do these homos need to sing all the time? Damn annoying. Had to mute the sound.

Posted November 23, 2013 7:01 pm 


Killing Moon The Soothsayer

3rd Froch 29 -27 Groves…..Froch hurt him and dented groves but he took it like a man…

Posted November 23, 2013 7:01 pm 


DUMBO

SORRY TONY THAT WAS MEANT FOR THAT PEEJ PUNK!!MY APOLAGIES,SORRY

Posted November 23, 2013 7:01 pm 


BEARS

nice third round for froch. this fight is FIREWORKS……add froch to the group of fireworks fighters i got going……………….froch always brings the excitement!!!! groves is getting hit NOW!!!!

Posted November 23, 2013 7:00 pm 


PEEJ

White, slow and stupid is no way to go through life. This fight is painful to watch. SOG owns both of these clowns.

Posted November 23, 2013 7:00 pm 


Thrashnephilim

Lol@Dumbo

Posted November 23, 2013 6:59 pm 


Thrashnephilim

Peej, you are toxic.

Posted November 23, 2013 6:58 pm 


PEEJ sucks

PEEJ really is one of the biggest idiots on this site, and believe me, thats no easy feat!!

Posted November 23, 2013 6:58 pm 


DUMBO

sounds like that big black buck you shared a cell with TONY 1244 ruined you!!you saggy arsed muppet,lol

Posted November 23, 2013 6:57 pm 


Killing Moon The Soothsayer

2nd Groves 20 -17 Groves…Froch not at all in this so far…

Posted November 23, 2013 6:56 pm 


axaxaxaxa

Boytsov should fight in Cruiserweight devision.

Posted November 23, 2013 6:56 pm 


PEEJ

Boytsov is just a typical slow, fat white guy. Never was good.

Posted November 23, 2013 6:55 pm 


Thrashnephilim

Boytsov didn’t used to be like this. I think he doesn’t have full desire overall like he had. He had big man power and good skills and defense. He showed improvement steadily. He was well rounded. Something happened and he dropped off.

Posted November 23, 2013 6:55 pm 


PEEJ

These white guys are so damn slow that it is painful to watch.

Posted November 23, 2013 6:54 pm 


PEEJ

Froch sucks. Ward ruined him.

Posted November 23, 2013 6:53 pm 


Killing Moon The Soothsayer

Oh dear..Froch down in 1st…..10-8 Groves…Think we’re watching a star emerging…

Posted November 23, 2013 6:52 pm 


GONZO OF NAZARETH

All you boxing experts need to stop posting, i did say groves will beat froch easy

Posted November 23, 2013 6:52 pm 


Tony1244

it was a good fight. I’m shocked Leapai didn’t get robbed. I had it 96-93 Leapai and I was being generous to Boystov.

Posted November 23, 2013 6:51 pm 


Thrashnephilim

Peej, do you even know what a cracker is?

Posted November 23, 2013 6:51 pm 


Jb221

Wow boystov a big hyped up nothing this guy lepeai is not even a top fighter

Posted November 23, 2013 6:50 pm 


Tony1244

Boystov lost badly. Another one bites the dust. The future of the HW Division is in The United Kingdom, and I’m American so it ain’t emotion.

Posted November 23, 2013 6:47 pm 


PEEJ

Just remember these crackers could never hang with Andre Ward. So have fun watching these glorified pub fighters.

Posted November 23, 2013 6:43 pm 


PEEJ

Rios will win easily and then what will you say, BEARS? NOTHING because you will run away after tonight’s fight. You are a MORON!

Posted November 23, 2013 6:42 pm 


BEARS

if anything is disgraceful it is your black sack gargling when it comes to boxing. your garbage son you may take your gargling elsewhere

Posted November 23, 2013 6:42 pm 


Killing Moon The Soothsayer

Lol Groves is full of it…I think he’s dead nervous…

Posted November 23, 2013 6:41 pm 


BEARS

peej your a black sack gargler who is unaware that pac beat bradley and got robbed. your opinions are worthless. you have forcaste rios by stoppage win over pac. dummy

Posted November 23, 2013 6:41 pm 


BEARS

lets go froch love these entrances and the stadium in manchester is awesome and the uk fans always get loud and rowdy. I love that

Posted November 23, 2013 6:39 pm 


PEEJ

BEARS you are a disgrace.

Posted November 23, 2013 6:39 pm 


Brunosjabber

Come on Cobra!! – looking forward to seeing how George reacts when he gets tagged. Lets hope its a good fight that lasts more than a few rounds…

Posted November 23, 2013 6:38 pm 


Anonymous

Groves looks much more relaxed now. Good sign.

Posted November 23, 2013 6:36 pm 


BEARS

I gotta follow froch man,,,,,had to watch this fight………..im a big fan of the uk boxing scene it’s a good one

Posted November 23, 2013 6:34 pm 


Anonymous

No worries.

Posted November 23, 2013 6:32 pm 


BEARS

of the three mentioned guru, front row, and vip……………….vip seems to be working best for me right. thanks again you guys are the best

Posted November 23, 2013 6:31 pm 


Anonymous

I didn’t like the look of Groves’ body language when he arrived and in his dressing room. His mouth was open all the time and he looked really tense and nervous..

Posted November 23, 2013 6:30 pm 


hookoffthejab

stop ya whining …com …

Posted November 23, 2013 6:30 pm 


Anonymous

Those sites I posted are good. I use them all the time. Them and Boxing guru.

Posted November 23, 2013 6:29 pm 


BEARS

im on that one right now but its hanging on me at times. i usually watch on that one but thank you paragon

Posted November 23, 2013 6:26 pm 


Anonymous

First row . org too

Posted November 23, 2013 6:25 pm 


Anonymous

Try Vip box net (take out the spaces) and choose boxing

Posted November 23, 2013 6:24 pm 


Thrashnephilim

The other dude can crack. He throws a hybrid looping hook from wierd angles. I saw him against Walker. Travis Walker can bang too.

Posted November 23, 2013 6:23 pm 


BEARS

anybody have a link that is not laggin out for groves vs froch???

Posted November 23, 2013 6:21 pm 


Thrashnephilim

He had ALL kinds of potential.

Posted November 23, 2013 6:18 pm 


Thrashnephilim

Shame on Boytsov

Posted November 23, 2013 6:17 pm 


von Pugsly

Boystov was dropped twice and was exhausted for most of the fight.

Posted November 23, 2013 6:16 pm 


Killing Moon The Soothsayer

Naseem Hamed Ready for Wlad..

Posted November 23, 2013 6:16 pm 


Anonymous

Boytsov is carrying too much weight. He’s not fat at all but he’s bulked up way too much and is too thick set. He can’t fight at any kind of pace at all.

Leapiai gets the decision. Boytsov down twice although one of the KDs didn’t look legit. Despite that, Boytsov took some hellacious wallops and showed a very solid chin. Leapai was 10kg heavier and can really punch.

Saureland having a bad night so far.

Posted November 23, 2013 6:15 pm 


Thrashnephilim

Are you serious? Boytsov must have really let himself go

Posted November 23, 2013 6:14 pm 


springwater

the rumors that denis prefer making party than taking his training serious looking like the truth……what a waste of talent…..don’t wonna see that outa shape scumbag again

Posted November 23, 2013 6:13 pm 


Thrashnephilim

C’mon, what’s happening with Boytsov?

Posted November 23, 2013 6:13 pm 


von Pugsly

Leapai got the UD over Boystov and deserved it!

Posted November 23, 2013 6:13 pm 


Killing Moon The Soothsayer

I think Groves will be stopped…5th round..Will be interesting to see if Froch jab has come to stay…It was great last time against Kessler but he also had respect for his punching-power…Wonder if he has the same respect for Groves…I think Froch is gonna brawl him…Which will be bad news for Groves..But we’ll see …Groves can only surprise..

Posted November 23, 2013 6:12 pm 


Acadea

How much till froch groves??

Posted November 23, 2013 6:10 pm 


Thrashnephilim

Who won the fight Boytsov or Leapai?

Posted November 23, 2013 6:08 pm 


von Pugsly

I had never seen Boystov before and I hope I don’t see him again. He’s complete garbage.

Posted November 23, 2013 6:05 pm 


big head

i think froch will be to experience and to strong for groves i mean groves seem confident and seem to get under froch skin a lil bit and that might not be a good thing to do when u fight sombody like froch u dont wont to make a guy like that angry while groves is proably faster as far as handspeed goes froch is more tougher and durable and proably got the better chin to idk how good groves chin is both fighters know each other well they spar before so this aint going to be no feeling out process froch going to go right at groves from the opening bell idk if groves got enough strenght or firepower to keep froch off of him but groves is younger he got the abilty to beat froch but idk if he got the experience yet tho cause froch looking to put a hurting on groves and get him out of there groves got holes in his defense he have his left hand down i just see froch being to much and stopping groves around the 8 round or maybe earlier then that

Posted November 23, 2013 6:04 pm 


Anonymous

These Uli Wenger fighters always have the god awful stamina. Boytsov has been blowing hard since the second or third rounds. Wenger is a terrible trainer. Boytsov’s chin is very solid mind.

Posted November 23, 2013 6:02 pm 


Acadea

How much till froch groves?

Posted November 23, 2013 5:57 pm 


Brunosjabber

Nice finish by Quigg! -good power

Posted November 23, 2013 5:47 pm 


hookoffthejab

sorry right hooks …

Posted November 23, 2013 5:19 pm 


hookoffthejab

almost had his head taken off twice in the 1st by lead lefhooks ….

Posted November 23, 2013 5:19 pm 


hookoffthejab

next Andy Lee ….

Posted November 23, 2013 5:09 pm 


hookoffthejab

haye and amerekon both in the same room together ..anychance of Ala taking care of them both for us ………..

Posted November 23, 2013 5:05 pm 


Webster

Chuck Jones should have stuck to making cartoons.

Posted November 23, 2013 4:41 pm 


Anonymous

what the fu#k is that useless prick haye doing on sky sports.

Posted November 23, 2013 4:39 pm 


shaolinwarriormark@boxpicks.com

Firstand foremost I had degale beating groves.second yeah groves may start fast against froch but at rounds 4 and on groves is a dead man

Posted November 23, 2013 4:31 pm 


Marilyn13

Doctor Who

Posted November 23, 2013 4:27 pm 


Killing Moon The Soothsayer

Gradovich vs Dib,Pacman vs Rios,Ruiz vs hamer ,Tarver vs Sheppard,Froch vs Groves,Leapai vs Boytsov,Quigg vs Silva,Gutknect vs Sukhotsky, Hernandez vs Alekseev…

Pretty big boxing night what is everyone watching?

Posted November 23, 2013 4:14 pm 


boxing barlow

Have bet froch to ko groves

Posted November 23, 2013 4:09 pm 


aaaaa

Nope–Froch will tko Grooves

Posted November 23, 2013 4:05 pm 



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