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B Red

Sredmond, Floyd will whip Triple G at 154

Posted December 1, 2013 4:04 am 


HHLondon

The photo says it all about BOTH fighters conditioning!

Rios was another Clottey!

Paid to take a beating and make Pacquiao look good!

Pacquiao will never fight Floyd for a few reasons:

He’ll get knocked out.

Floyd won’t give Arum a dime.

Freddie is crap!

Posted November 30, 2013 12:09 am 


HHLondon

Shut up Manny! Just STFU!

Posted November 29, 2013 11:58 pm 


Auzbox

Tumbo not if his life depended on it

Posted November 29, 2013 6:58 pm 


te tumbo

Delvin Rodriguez TKO’s Punkquiao* all day long . . . UnFnFadeable . . .

Posted November 29, 2013 4:12 pm 


Exiled Yank

MP’s speed and footwork is a possible problem for FM. MP moves well and throws from crazy angles without setting up. FM didnt move as much against Canelo because he wanted to beat him back and steal his heart. He came out throwing in round one. That was all planned. MP, unlike Canelo, however, can throw from anywhere. That could cause Fm trouble. Like I keep saying, it’s late, but I’ll still pay for it.

Posted November 29, 2013 10:31 am 


Auzbox

Floyd sr said if manny beats guerro then he can fight floyd jr guess it may happen

Posted November 28, 2013 11:47 pm 


Public Enemy

Where is Cotto “el joto” with his plucked eyeborws at now? Wearing pink like we all knew he was on the other side. Thats probably why fighters avoid him. He gets frisky in the ring.

Posted November 28, 2013 5:25 pm 


Public Enemy

Where are all the puerto rican righters at? Oh thats right they are getting preped for slaughter by the mexicans. Puerto ricans and their banannas try to sell them to their own people using American money, funniest thing ever. Its like trying to sell ice to eskimos.

Posted November 28, 2013 5:23 pm 


Two Piece

All the while he’ll promise to make Pac vs May, it’s worked wonders for the last 4 years so if it ain’t broke why change it. Boxing fans are bigger suckers than Victor Ortiz atleast he got paid.

Posted November 28, 2013 1:45 pm 


Two Piece

Forget Floyd vs Pac boxing fans, thats never gonna happen. How many more times are you gonna fall for this nonsense by Arum and dumb ass writers. You all know that Arum has a few more inhouse rematches set up long ago eg: Bradley vs Pac2( ” I’m gonna make a lot of money from the rematch, but really…), Pac vs Cotto2, Pac vs Marquez5, followed by Pac vs Alvarado, Pac vs Provodnikov. YOU WANNA BET?

Posted November 28, 2013 1:40 pm 


SREDMOND

I am ALL for a Pac vs Floyd fight but the LACK of nuance with these discussions is DUMB… one of the BIGGEST obstacles stopping this contest is the fact that Floyd is a Showtime fighter with a MASSIVE contract and Pacquiao is an HBO fighter not even discussing the standoff between their promotional companies “saying Floyd should just fight him” ignores the reality that this is NOT some easy process… I hope it happens and yes facing Pacquiao off of 2 losses would have been BAD business (Bradley robbery) but the Marquez KO was terrible and Pac needed a win to get this bout even up for discussion…. This is a 2 way street, and Manny cannot sell these inhouse fights well it will be curious to see what the numbers are for Rios and if they were under 1 mill it would not surprise me….

Posted November 28, 2013 11:21 am 


Jayc

To all Floyd Fans. I am sure Floyd will beat Pac but Floyd himself is not sure about that, so all your comments regarding Pac is afraid of needles etc are just all Floyds excuses. Be real. Those are old topics already. If you are real boxing fans, why all of you are saying pac should fight this first or Pac came from 2 losses and does not have the right to fight Floyd now. Are you all floyd fans think like him already.. If you love boxing, you should want to see the fight happen as in now rather than Khan. Don’t you want to see Floyd and Pac fight?

Posted November 28, 2013 11:11 am 


Alex

Kostya was past it and plagued with injuries than Martinez when he fought Hatton. Hatton got a gift against Colazzo and looked terrible against Urango before he moved up to fight Floyd

GGG Vs Floyd is the biggest money fight at 154 but the so called Money May is once again throwing the big money away.

Posted November 28, 2013 3:35 am 


Alex

Kostya was past it and plagued with injuries than Martinez when he fought Hatton. Hatton got a gift against Colazzo and looked like crap against Urango before he moved up to fight Floyd

GGG Vs Floyd is the biggest money fight at 154 but the so called Money May is once again throwing the big money away.

Posted November 28, 2013 3:33 am 


Alex

Kostya was plagued with more injuries than Martinez when he fought Hatton. Hatton went down hill too before he moved up to fight Floyd for he couldnt got a gift against Colazzo and even looked terrible against Urango.

GGG Vs Floyd is the biggest money fight at 154 but the so called Money May is once again throwing the big money away

Posted November 28, 2013 3:30 am 


Alex

Kostya was plagued with more injuries than Martinez when he fought Hatton. Hatton went down hill too before he moved up to fight Floyd for he couldnt got a gift against Colazzo and even looked like crap against Urango.

GGG Vs Floyd is the biggest money fight at 154 but the so called Money May is once again throwing the big money away

Posted November 28, 2013 3:28 am 


Old Coot

@ lightsoutOhio: Whatever, if you scared for Floyd, say you scared…
It’s just too hilarious that now when you Floydiac clowns get the feeling that Manny will likely agree to anything Floyd wants, to make the fight happen, SUDDENLY you try the convenient angle that Floyd should not fight Manny, although it’s for what most fans including Floyd fans want, and the payday that Floyd wants most… $100 plus MILLION?!! GTFOH!! You clowns MUST be ambulance chasing lawyers, who lose every case!!! LOL!!

And if Floyd actually tries AGAIN, to use this PED crap after calling Manny a “washed-up, has-been”, and after his fans keep insisting Manny can’t touch him… That will only solidify the fact that deep down Floyd and his fans are scared to death of what Manny will do to his overrated record!! LOL!!

Posted November 28, 2013 2:01 am 


Auzbox

I didn’t write that

Posted November 28, 2013 1:55 am 


Auzbox

Stupid Ni@@ers.

Posted November 28, 2013 12:56 am 


B Red

Floyd can whip Manny, Garcia or Triple G,….take your pick, ya dig

Posted November 28, 2013 12:48 am 


Tachyon

Prime Manny lost to JMM, lost to Morals and old PAC was knocked into the middle of 2090 by JMM. Mayweather undefeated!!!!! Should PAC get a May shot? yes, is PAC stock low? yes, did beating rios improve Pacs stock? No. Should you guys all have a Happy and Safe Thanksgiving? Yes. I will continue this debate with you all on Black Friday while I search for good online deals.

Posted November 27, 2013 11:45 pm 


SREDMOND

Mayweather is at the END the end of his career, and the man has fought the battles that are gonna make him who he is… Like most I hope of the Pacquiao bout for a few reasons but the idea that he is gonna scan the horizon to find some guy FAR out of his weight class to lose to at 38 or 39 so his detractors can somehow invalidate his career is ridiculous… If outboxing FRESH younger Champions at the appropriate weights does not suit guys then “Oh Well” ….. Its bizarre because as much as these sorts pretend Floyd cannot fight and he has won World Title fights, beat a slew of current and former Champs along with HOFERS, win 4 Lineals, and Titles in 5 weight classes via infallible matchmaking which has eluded Pacquiao and everyone else… A loss would somehow humanize Floyd for them I believe, they would NOT be forced to consistently kneel to his perfection in the ring and figure out elaborate reasons why he and his team that employ NO strength coach nor any known advanced training methods is able to continually show up ready for combat…. ALL Mayweather training camps result in him FIT, READY and executing on his agenda, if the opponent steps it up a notch so does he, BUTT HIM he is gonna KO your azz, wanna bang you will end up contused like Cotto, wanna foul you end up bleeding like Zab, hurt him you end up like Shane,,,,, During his prime Mayweather was NEVER touched and even as an aging fighter he is the BEST on the planet…

Posted November 27, 2013 11:43 pm 


te tumbo

Then how do you explain Cristobal crying? Clearly he is a competitor that wanted to continue. He was wearing Vitali down and would have gotten a late stoppage . . .

Posted November 27, 2013 11:36 pm 


TARK

Te Tumbo.., “Arreola was beating Vitali at the time of the stoppage.”

That’s why Chris’s corner stopped it with Chris in agreement???

CA would be the only winning fighter who never landed a real good punch and was out-scored 3 to 1. It made no sense for the fight to continue because Chris was out-classed by 7 million miles.

I see what happens … regardless of who I picked. You see what you want.

Posted November 27, 2013 10:44 pm 


Gus

Very prime Manny would have out sped Maywether and out pointed him and Maywether knew it. Today? Maywether wins.

Posted November 27, 2013 10:24 pm 


te tumbo

Arreola was beating Vitali at the time of the stoppage. That’s why Cris cried after the fight was wrongfully stopped. I was there. 3rd row. Took the bus to Staples. UnFnFadeable . . .

Posted November 27, 2013 10:11 pm 


The Mad Scientist

Tumbo -till this very day team Pacquiao and his fans are counting on finally facing and old, shot no longer formidable Marquez to erase any doubt in their delusional minds on who was the better fighter..Lol!

Posted November 27, 2013 9:12 pm 


Auzbox

Stupid Brits

Posted November 27, 2013 8:45 pm 


Auzbox

You prob thought David hate was gonna beat wladimir

Posted November 27, 2013 8:45 pm 


Auzbox

And want khan to fight mayweather pfft idiot

Posted November 27, 2013 8:44 pm 


Auzbox

Peej your a stupid pom can’t even win the cricket

Posted November 27, 2013 8:43 pm 


von Pugsly

Floyd needs to worry about the fighters in his own gym taking the PED test (J’Leon Love and Mickey Bey in the last year alone). He needs to teach those guys his strategy for eluding detection.

Posted November 27, 2013 8:01 pm 


von Pugsly

The only thing sadder than Floyd’s changing list of excuses for not fighting Manny is all the support he gets from his delusional fans for avoiding his primary challenger for several years now. I’d favor Floyd to win by UD if they ever fought but if they don’t fight the onus is on Floyd, Schaeffer and Bob Arum, not the Pac-meister.

Posted November 27, 2013 7:58 pm 


PEEJ

Auzbox is a f@g.

Posted November 27, 2013 7:28 pm 


Ray Ray

Rios is no Floyd….Rios didnt move at all…..as Freddy said, a punching bag. This Merry go round has well run its course….If the middle man wasnt involved this would b worth talking about.

Posted November 27, 2013 7:19 pm 


Auzbox

Tumbo your argument is floored, floyd fought them first because that’s where the money was manny didn’t duck them he fought as soon as he could, you will keep going on and on fact of the matter is if floyd so good than fight

Posted November 27, 2013 7:10 pm 


te tumbo

AUZBOX, I love my Messican boxing. Please refute any Fact that I cite as inaccurate, if that’s the case. otherwise, i can teach You to Love and Respect Messicans as much as I do.

Posted November 27, 2013 7:09 pm 


te tumbo

AUZBOX, you can spout all of the excuses you want but the FACT remains that Pacquiao* did NOT fight the best available competition and he also faced older versions of the same fighters that Floyd faced and defeated FIRST . . . All Facts, All Day Long . . . Btw, disregard the tumbo stalkers and impostors . . . i remain UnFnFadeable.

Posted November 27, 2013 7:05 pm 


te tumbo

What can I say? I love my cholos.

Posted November 27, 2013 6:57 pm 


Auzbox

And he fought hatton later cause hatton wanted mayweather not PAC if he had his time again bet he would change his mind

Posted November 27, 2013 6:57 pm 


Auzbox

And manny fought delahoya a year later makes no difference at all your just attacking his credibility, floyd no better than manny till he beats him. 50 percent on here will argue that and I can’t wait for floyd to name khan cause then all is manny fans can have the last laugh cause khan is putrid

Posted November 27, 2013 6:54 pm 


Auzbox

Don’t think that’s true who has the most world titles in different divisions I think might be more special some how

Posted November 27, 2013 6:47 pm 


te tumbo

HAIMAT, i Love my Boxing. please refute any Fact that i cite as inaccurate, if that’s the case. otherwise, i can teach You to Love and Respect the sport as much as i do.

Posted November 27, 2013 6:46 pm 


te tumbo

“[oh great and wise Tumbo] floyd fought old men to dont discredit PAC they both great fighters and the only reason he had to keep fighting Marquez is because floyd wouldn’t get on board” Floyd fought a younger and bigger DLH. he also fought a younger Hatton. he also fought a younger Mosley. He also convincingly defeated a younger Marquez who went on to outclass Pacquiao* before scoring the rivalry-ending KO victory. according to the documented boxing facts, Floyd and Marquez are greater than Pacquiao*.

Posted November 27, 2013 6:43 pm 


Haimat

te tumbo is a character. He loves his Mexicans :)
SREDMOND is as pathetic as ever, I just read one of his posts and it was incredibly dumb.

Posted November 27, 2013 6:41 pm 


Auzbox

Te gumbo floyd fought old men to dont discredit PAC they both great fighters and the only reason he had to keep fighting Marquez is because floyd wouldn’t get on board

Posted November 27, 2013 6:13 pm 


REM

Ohio this is the cult follower bs I’m talking about Floyd made it seem like Canelo came to the negotiating table off the back asking for the catchweight we know that’s not true. We know he did this to try to save face after putting his foot in his mouth saying Pacs win over Cotto wasn’t legit because it was at a catchweight. That post severly hurt your credibility. Spin apin spin fox news wants your resume you have a bright future with them.

Posted November 27, 2013 6:12 pm 


te tumbo

Morales coming off of a second loss to Barerra wasn’t the best feather that Pacquiao* could’ve faced after barely eking out a Draw v. Marquez. David Diaz was not the best lightweight that Pacquiao* could’ve faced either. DLH wasn’t even a welter when Pacquiao* exploited his hubris to convince him to return to 147lbs where he hadn’t fought in years. Hatton was not the best welter; Margarito was not the best middleweight; Rios was not the best welter; and neither was Marquez. in fact, Team Pacquiao* was counting on an “old” and “slow” Marquez that they could dominate in III and IV. instead, Pacquiao* was simply outSmarted, outBoxed, and outPunched in both bouts. culminating in the most brutal KO in boxing history. Pacquiao’s* ring-legacy will show that Pacquiao* consistently handpicked and compromised the competitiveness of all his bouts following Marquez I.

Posted November 27, 2013 6:08 pm 


Sirree

PEEJ Yeah the fight will be hard to get it going but I think the talk of the impossible fight is good. It keeps the fans talking and I think it’s good promotion for both respective fighters. They should milk it more. Every body benefits from this from website who wants to generate traffic to fans who will have somthing to talk about to just promoting the two fighters. and anything in between.

Posted November 27, 2013 6:06 pm 


Auzbox

Peej when PAC went on his run he was the best fighting the best so don’t pull that one and boys the ufc put the best fighters in against eachother and if boxing keeps jerking the world of great fights that stupid thing will take over

Posted November 27, 2013 6:02 pm 


te tumbo

“The ‘Manny refused drug tests’ angle don’t fly no more. Truth be told, it never did ” OLD COOT, right-on. there was never a single credible excuse for Pacquiao* to reject Harmless, Random, and MUTUALLY-Applied testing to face his primary P4P rival and collect a $25-$50 million payday. he’s not worth nearly as much now, which is the only reason “Money” might hesitate to face him. he’s only got a couple of fights left and the matchups that “Money” ultimately chooses will have to make the most $en$e. Manny* no longer qualifies. Btw, i always contended that Team Pacquiao* was avoiding a defeat NOT a dirty test.

Posted November 27, 2013 5:57 pm 


PEEJ

Well he definitely needs to supply the form that shows he paid his taxes so he can get to his money. Heck Arum is a tax lawyer or used to be so he should know how it all works out.

Posted November 27, 2013 5:52 pm 


Sirree

Two Piece

Old Coot – any comment about the $50M tax charge Pactard. LMFAO!

—Pacquiao has paid all of his taxes, this is just a matter of submitting the IRS certified document to the Philipine authority that proves Pacquiao has already paid his taxes to the IRS which he did already. The tax issue will go away once they submitt those documents to the BIR authority. There’s a treaty between the US and Phil that does not allow double taxation in both country.

Posted November 27, 2013 5:52 pm 


PEEJ

Pac only became P4P number one because Floyd went on a quick retirement. As soon as Floyd came back he had to relinquish that lofty perch. If Pac is willing to take the test and Top Rank is willing to take a back seat then yeah the fight can happen. But I just don’t see that happening.

Posted November 27, 2013 5:49 pm 


Sirree

Pacquiao did pay his taxes. It’s only a problem of not submitting the IRS certified copy document to the BIR that proved he paid his taxes in the U.S. Tax treaty between the two country does not allow double taxation.

Posted November 27, 2013 5:48 pm 


Auzbox

At the end of the day everyone battling back and forth, floyd has 4 fights left and it doesn’t matter about anything of the past its a new year and manny deserves one of the 4 and not for the money because he event it when he was p4p best and I think he will be again! And I’m not sure who it was but floyd senior wants manny!

Posted November 27, 2013 5:46 pm 


PEEJ

No excuses are being provided. Fact is he still under Top Rank. They don’t do business with Golden Boy or Floyd. Im confused at how you say Floyd fans are making excuses. All the excuses came from Pac and company.

Posted November 27, 2013 5:44 pm 


Sirree

And still Floyd fans are providing excuse for Floyd’s avoidance of Pacquiao

Posted November 27, 2013 5:42 pm 


Tachyon

Old coot how is asking for a random blood test wrong? Bad? out of line? etc. Its not like floyd said manny you take the random test but I want. You and not just you most posters also seem to forget when the fight was first mentioned years ago all the esb analyst said Floyd would say he deserved the most money and the fight would not be made. They were incorrect Floyd said sure 50/50 not problem. Floyd asked for random blood test and Manny said no. then Manny said I’m afraid of needles and they tattoos I have were drawn with crayons. Then Manny said drawing blood would make him weak. Wow all that over one simple blood test Old coot your a smart man and most of the time have good boxing feed back, I know you like Manny but you do have to sit back and wonder. Lets flip the script if Bradley came up with the same things would not wonder if he really wanted to fight Pac? Would not wonder why Bradley would not take a simple blood test and remember it was not the blood test that was the issue it was the workd RANDOOM that struck fear in Pac and Roach. Old coot you have to think something is not quite right with the Manny camp when it came to the random test deal.

Posted November 27, 2013 4:58 pm 


PEEJ

I also agree

Posted November 27, 2013 4:40 pm 


TJ

ONLY WAY PACQUIAO fights MAYWEATHER is over ROB Arum’s dead body……..
We can but hope……

Posted November 27, 2013 4:39 pm 


PEEJ

Funny, I was gonna say the same thing.

Posted November 27, 2013 4:30 pm 


The Garbageman

Actually this all started when Golden Boy and Top Rank where both trying to get Pac under the promotional team. Top Rank interfered, so then Top Rank had to pay money to Golden Boy for each of his fights. That is when all this started. And they still don’t work together so saying Floyd is lying is dumb. They don’t work well together plain and simple. And Canelo did ask for a catch weight. As a matter of fact he called Floyd out at 150 after the Cintron fight.

Posted November 27, 2013 4:24 pm 


lightsoutOhio

Canelo did say he would do a catch-weigh to fight Mayeather. Sergio also said this too. Canelo weigh 165lbs on fight night vs P4P king mayweather

Posted November 27, 2013 4:10 pm 


REM

Stop listening to Floyd he’s a pathological lier. TR and GB did fights before everyone wanted the Pac Floyd fight remember Oscar v Pac and Pac v Marquez 1&2 GB vs TR fights. Floyd won’t do business with Arum that’s the problem. Floyd said Pac your next then said he didn’t say that. Floyd said Canelo asked for a catchweight pathological lier. Floyd won’t risk losing to Pac not even for a 100mil and give Arum the satifaction.

Posted November 27, 2013 4:01 pm 


lightsoutOhio

All your hero- pacman has to do is drop TOP STINK this fight would of been made years ago. period. Pacman doesn’t have a contract to fight on HBO. Its business and HBO and showtime are competition. But I bet HBO reacts by squeezing top stink off there channel

Posted November 27, 2013 3:58 pm 


PEEJ

Pac has no contract with HBO so HBO does not need to be in the picture for the fight.

Posted November 27, 2013 3:48 pm 


Old Coot

Lightsout: Aw come ON!!! Now you know shobox will swallow it’s pride for THIS FIGHT!!

Posted November 27, 2013 3:43 pm 


Delk1

DancePartner SAID:
My Opinion is, ultimately Floyd calls the shot whether this fight happens or not. It’s up to him and I’m pretty sure Pac would be more than willing to take a much smaller cut now than before

Judging from your statment sir. It is clear to me that you don’t know s-it about boxing. Yes Mayweather call the shots, FOR HIMSELF. MANNY can’t be willing to take sh-t. LISTEN AND LISTEN GOOD. BOB ARUM is NOT willing to take a much smaller cut. LOOK, if PAC wants to fight, all he has to do is leave TOP RANK for one fight like COTTO did. BUT he want. He’d rather hide behind the decisions of BOB ARUM.

I just watched a Mayweather interview on youtube. (Sway in the Morning). They asked Mayweather about a possible fight with Manny and Money said basically it will be hard to make becuase of the company Manny works for. The interviewer said, well what about Bradley. Mayweather replied, Again we are talking about dealing with the same company. He also stated that the organazation (Top Rank) focus is on in-house fights. I guess Mayweather is scared of Bradley now right?

Posted November 27, 2013 3:43 pm 


PEEJ

Actually no I don’t know. Marquez offered to take the test with Pac to show he was not cheating. And it is not hard to put on muscle if you do it the right way. And Pac constantly gets hit. There is only so much you chin can take before it breaks. Pac was getting hit with those same punches from Marquez in every fight. He rocked Pac on a few occasions too. Pac ran into the punch which also made it cause more damage. So sorry. There is nothing to admit other than the fact Pac accused Marquez which is ok and Floyd accused Pac which apparently isn’t ok.

Posted November 27, 2013 3:42 pm 


Hec Dog

TWO PIECE my friend, Manny Pacquiao is continually attacked by those that want to take Manny Pacquiao down. This isn’t the first time and it won’t be the last. As a congressman, Manny is a target of the opposite political group that would like nothing then to tarnish the legendary staus of the world’s most popular and beloved athlete ever. Just as Manny climbed back from a devastating loss, he will do the same and every one of this worthless attempts to bring him down. Manny is a man of God first. He is loved, respected, admired as a human being first. Manny Pacquiao has gone from rags to riches, from prisoner to prince. In due time, Manny Pacquiao will be found innocent once again, and the devil and his army will have failed again. Lets all email the government of the philipines and cry out for justice. Manny will come out on top. Lets celebrate Manny Pacquiao today. He’s the peoples champion in life.

Posted November 27, 2013 3:42 pm 


Old Coot

@PeeJ: Dude… Marquez was huge and able to not only knock down Manny for the first time, in four fights, and not only that, but he not just KO’d Manny but KNOCKED HIM OUT COLD? And need I mention that after his last loss to Manny, Juan halls off and hired a convicted cheat, named Angel Heredia as his conditioning coach?… Now all THAT is much more of a reason to suspect Marquez, than ANYTHING Manny has ever done… And you know it?

Posted November 27, 2013 3:39 pm 


PEEJ

Dude I have said multiple times I don’t think Pac was on anything. I have remained the same in saying I thought he was just an offensive machine. Still does not change the fact that Pac accused Marquez of taking something which is why he started the random testing with Rios and why Floyd wants him to take the random testing.

Posted November 27, 2013 3:36 pm 


lightsoutOhio

Old coot- there you go again with your thoughts….Fact: Showtime’s head of Boxing exec use to be with HBO- they’re still pissed. Mayweather can only fight on showtime.

Posted November 27, 2013 3:36 pm 


Havoc

Ariza is gone so Pac is willing to take the test. Can’t accuse him or prove he use PED, Ariza is gone its like getting rid of the evidence. Not unless Ariza talk and willing to go to jail then Pac will get caught.

Posted November 27, 2013 3:36 pm 


PEEJ

Showtimes Espinoza already stated it has to be on Showtime PPV. Not to mention Pac has no contract with HBO like Lewis did so this shouldn’t be an issue. If Arum makes it an issue then it is clear once again he does not want Pac in the ring with Floyd

Posted November 27, 2013 3:35 pm 


Old Coot

Peej: Yeah right… As if you are Floyd ever cared about any other fighters’ health of cleaning up boxing, before Manny became a threat. And like you really think Manny ever used.

Where was Floyd demanding this after Toney or Mosley got burned using?… But now he uses this excuse for a guy Pacquiao, who has never failed so much as ONE drug test or has never even had so much as a rumor about drugs before Floyd Sr. accused him after he got embarrassed during the Hatton fight.

And do you really think Ariza would not have given Rios what he gave Pacquiao, if they were cheating? THINK MAN!!

Posted November 27, 2013 3:34 pm 


PEEJ

Sorry but can’t drop the drug test. Dude your boy just accused Marquez of being on PEDs because he got knocked out by him. Then he has Rios take the test sorry bro but Pac must take the test plain and simple. If he doesn’t then it shows he does not want to fight Floyd plain and simple. The same reason Pac had Rios take the test is the same reason Floyd wants Pac to take the test. Its alright for your boy to claim people are on things but it isn’t ok for Floyd.

Posted November 27, 2013 3:33 pm 


Havoc

My first thought when Manny runs for Congress. To protect his wealth including not paying taxes. Now it’s all clear.

Posted November 27, 2013 3:31 pm 


Old Coot

lightsoutOhio: More like “Lightsoutinyourhead”… Dude or whatever, my “special thoughts are that this would be MUCH bigger than even Lewis-Tyson… Remember that? It was a collaboration between HBO and Shobox… And nowadays, with that successful precedent and today’s tech advances, the two networks hooking up would be even easier. Particucarly for the fight and PPV draw of all history.

Posted November 27, 2013 3:24 pm 


REM

I’m a big Pac fan and care about his health as I do about all boxers who make the ultimate sacrifice for our entertainment even Floyds I was discusted when Ortiz headbutted him no room for that in our great sport. As far as Pacs financial situation he’s an idiot from 2009-2011 he made 180 mil and blew it can’t feel any sympathy for that.

Posted November 27, 2013 3:18 pm 


lightsoutOhio

Old coot- the fight won’t happen dude. Damn! The fight has to be on Showtime PPV. Top stink play the in house fights too much.. now they need HBO- they won’t allow this period
Fact! Not your special little thoughts

Posted November 27, 2013 3:18 pm 


Old Coot

Peej: Drop the drug test crap dude… Floyd got scared after Manny beatdown Cotto, and made that crap up as a reuse to kill the fight, only after he learned what happened with blood-tests just 3 day before Pacquiao Vs Morales 2, which made Manny distrustful of blood testing within days of the fight after he lost.

Posted November 27, 2013 3:11 pm 


Old Coot

Correction- I meant, Floyd and his fans are scared to death for his face and his zero.

Posted November 27, 2013 3:07 pm 


PEEJ

If he takes the test then I am sure he won’t accuse him of that. Fact is though he will have to take the test. If he denies it then there is an issue with Pac and company. They are the ones that had the issue with the drug testing.

Posted November 27, 2013 3:06 pm 


Old Coot

@ lightsoutOhio: Whatever, if you scared for Floyd, say you scared…

It’s just hilarious that now when you clowns get the feeling that Manny will likely agree to anything Floyd want to make the fight… Suddenly you use the angle that you don’t think he should fight Floyd? GTFOH!! You clowns MUST be ambulance chasing lawyers, who lose every case!!! LOL!!

Posted November 27, 2013 3:02 pm 


Old Coot

If Floyd actually tries AGAIN, to use this PED crap after calling Manny a “washed-up, has-been”, and after his fans keep insisting Manny can’t touch him… That will only solidify the fact that deep down Floyd and is fans is scared to death of what Manny will do to his overrated record!! LOL!!

Posted November 27, 2013 2:59 pm 


lightsoutOhio

Old coot- don’t try speaking for me Buddy. I’d much rather see Mayweather vs Sergio. He earned his big payday. Pacman fighting B class fighter Rios who lost to abril easy and getting KTFO by JMM doesn’t Sorry…just like Mayweather I moved on buddy. Mayweather vs Sergio is a great fight for boxing fans, P4P king picks up another belt plus mayweather can pay Sergio 8-10mil flat and keep all the PPV to him self and pull a top stink move

Posted November 27, 2013 2:58 pm 


Old Coot

@ Two Piece: Manny’s tax issue is likely just a misunderstanding between the US and PI… As he already paid taxes here to our IRS… And how quickly you forget that in 2007, Floyd was found to WILLFULLY evade taxation and had to pay $5 and a half million in back taxes! LOL! Then the loser, beat his babies’ momma in front of them.

Posted November 27, 2013 2:55 pm 


PEEJ

As a matter of fact he did. Wanted a 24 day cut off, a 14 day cut off and a 7 day cut off. That is refusing. Random testing has no cut off. So yes, all he had to do was agree till the day of just like Floyd was doing. Floyd agreed to all of Pacs demands even his ridiculous 10mil per pound over weight. Floyd agreed. Pac and company went a different direction.

Posted November 27, 2013 2:53 pm 


Old Coot

Peej: The “Manny refused drug tests” angle don’t fly no more. Truth be told, it never did .

Posted November 27, 2013 2:48 pm 


REM

Two piece I can care less about Pacs personal situation I just want the fight. As far as the fight being made Pac is 1000 percent in the right.

Posted November 27, 2013 2:48 pm 


PEEJ

I’ve had enough. You all know me, I’ve been posting here since 2000. Ignore any more posts from this screen name. It’s fake.

Posted November 27, 2013 2:47 pm 


Two Piece

Old Coot – any comment about the $50M tax charge Pactard. LMFAO!

Posted November 27, 2013 2:47 pm 


Old Coot

@ lightsoutOhio: Say what you want… And I know you will. But like I said earlier- All the excuses and so-called political “reasons” are just smack… Because Unless Floyd beats the one EVERYBODY wants to see (even you too) then Floyd’s legacy will always be suspect… PERIOD!!!

Posted November 27, 2013 2:45 pm 


PEEJ

Well If Pac ever decides to actually sign to take the fight instead of coming up with excuses then Floyd can go ahead and toy with him in route to a TKO victory. But from all the signs that come from Pac and company, they want no part of Floyd.

Posted November 27, 2013 2:44 pm 


PEEJ

Two Piece, ignore that comment from whom ever is trying to use my name. Khan will be KOd by Floyd if that fight for some reason gets made.

Posted November 27, 2013 2:42 pm 


Old Coot

Excuses, childish attacks, false accusations and ridiculous demands, won’t ever prove Floyd can beat Pacman. Only a fight will… So cut the drama queen act and fight, Voyd!

Posted November 27, 2013 2:39 pm 


Two Piece

Peej – a mere con over Mayweather, consider yourself truly conned. Punk couldn’t get past C – B level fighters like Breidis Prescott, Peterson & Garcia got kd in his last fight by a C- level fighter and now he can beat #1 fighter of this era, stay away from cheap drugs.

Posted November 27, 2013 2:38 pm 


Old Coot

Peej: If Floyd, you, Te Tumbo and Two Piece are scared for Floyd’s beat-down by Manny The Onslaugther Pacquiao… Just say U scared!

Posted November 27, 2013 2:35 pm 


lightsoutOhio

Hey SLOW KIDS of the class….It’s Top Stink that stop this fight for years now. Now after pacman got KTFO by JMM and THREE straight s#itty PPV outings. NOW he wants a Mayweather fight. ? Why because Top Stink is a stinking ship….JMM won’t fight pacman he wants Bradley next or he’s retiring. The P4P King mayweather stated Bob Arum wouldn’t make a penny off of him period. He tried to make the fight with pacman only to hear BS from top stink…no drug testing, let’s build up the fight, it needs a outdoor Stadium . I bet if Pacman drops top stink as his promoter The next day the fight would get signed. As a boxing fan I like pacman but he’s tailor made for mayweather period
Id much rather see a better fight in Mayweather vs Sergio @154

Posted November 27, 2013 2:34 pm 


PEEJ

The fact is, nobody deserves a fight against Floyd. They’re just not good enough. Floyd deserves to fight himself.

Posted November 27, 2013 2:29 pm 


te tumbo

you forgot the “lucky” right-hand bomb he landed to DECK Pacquiao* in the third. Marquez was also remarkably “lucky” in III when he was routinely landing right-hand leads and uppercuts on a flat-footed Pacquiao*. you’re utterly delusional if you believe that Pacquiao* was “dominating” a fight in which he was only ahead by one point when he was KTFO.

Posted November 27, 2013 2:28 pm 


Old Coot

@ Two Piece: And Marquez was getting his ass handed to him by Manny more than he did by Tim… Only against Manny, Juan got in a lucky, literally, last-second KO punch, as Manny tripped over Marquez’ foot…

Posted November 27, 2013 2:26 pm 


Old Coot

@ Two Piece: First off, Bradley didn’t beat Manny… Hell, Manny took the 1st 2 minutes of each round off and still won… They gave the fight to Tim…

Posted November 27, 2013 2:25 pm 


Two Piece

REM – you seem to enjoy ” putting fingers into your ear” hoping that will change facts, you might want to get to speed with the $50M tax charge.lmfao, ( please note am laughing at you not Pac)

Posted November 27, 2013 2:23 pm 


PEEJ

No need for Floyd to fight Manny. Manny has lost 2 out of his last 3 fights. In no way does he deserve a fight with Floyd. Let him try and beat Bradley then maybe he can get the fight. But with the way Arum is talking saying HBO needs to be apart of the PPV then the fight will not come off yet again because Arum doesn’t want it too. And sorry but Obama is Garbage.

Posted November 27, 2013 2:22 pm 


PEEJ

Deserved or not, if the Khan fight did happen, you’d have to heavily favour Khan at this stage of their careers.

Posted November 27, 2013 2:22 pm 


Two Piece

Mayweather vs Bradley would make a damn good scrap, Bradley is a legitimate WW champion, #3 P4P, unbeaten and has a very good resume with wins over Marquez, Pac, Provodnikov, Alexander, Campbell, Witter, Holt & Casamayor. This guy deserves the fight and payday more than Pac at the moment including GGG whose resume is not even worth mentioning. Desert Storm vs Mayweather would be worth PPV.

Posted November 27, 2013 2:10 pm 


Old Coot

Then Bradley can quite easily fight Manny and prove he won… Right after Floyd proves HE can win against Manny too! LOL!!

Posted November 27, 2013 2:02 pm 


Old Coot

Just like President Obama… Manny’s haters know he’s superior, and can’t handle it… So they constantly try in vain to label both, any old lie they can. LOL!!

Posted November 27, 2013 2:00 pm 


PEEJ

Nope you are wrong. I don’t want to see him fight Khan, Bradley though deserves the fight more than Pac does. All Bradley does is win. Unfortunately he is with Top Rank. Also Showtimes Espinoza said that he would contact Arum about the fight but it would have to be on Showtime PPV. Pac is not contracted to HBO so if Arum says HBO has to be apart of it, then once again Arum is just trying to not make the fight.

Posted November 27, 2013 1:58 pm 


Old Coot

@ Two-piece: Well it’s just two bad that Manny cheating on his wife is the only PROVEN thing you listed… All else is outright false accusations and speculation…

On the other hand, it is absolutely true that ole Convict Voyd did time for BEATING his babies’ momma, in front of their faces. Talk about a gangsta! LOL!!

Posted November 27, 2013 1:58 pm 


Two Piece

Looks like the midget is gonna be fighting to pay his tax bill.

Posted November 27, 2013 1:55 pm 


Old Coot

All the Floydiacs and Floydiots are pushing Khan or Bradley, because they are scared of Floyd fighting Manny too. LOL!!

Posted November 27, 2013 1:53 pm 


Two Piece

REM & Hec Dog – LMFAO! care to eloborate on the tax evasion charge the bible preaching fraudster is facing. Gambling, tax evasion, cheating on wifey, harbouring fugitives, bogus 154lbs title, refusing OSDT etc. Manny is gangster n the wheels are slowly coming off. Watch this space……

Posted November 27, 2013 1:52 pm 


Old Coot

And Floyd’s PED demands, trying to get some mental edge, played out YEARS ago… So ya’ll can forget that noise.

Posted November 27, 2013 1:51 pm 


Old Coot

Bottom line, Floyd just needs to cut the crap and prove Manny is the “easy work” Floyd claims he is! All else is just smack!

Posted November 27, 2013 1:48 pm 


REM

Lets examine Floyds leverage and popularity in boxing. Canelo demands Floyd guarantee him a fight or he won’t fight on the Guerrero undercard. Floyd says no and Espn reports that the fight sold 875k. Canelo says 9/14 is my date I’m not changing and guess what Floyd ends up fighting Canelo on 9/14. Canelo got the fight and kept his date we all know Floyd wouldve had to change if he wasn’t fighting Canelo. The poor kid shouldve never accepted 10mil when he had that kind of leverage he made half that fighting ww jouneymen on hbo. I bet he gets the urge to vomit when he thinks about how much of his money is in Floyds account. But then again he didn’t have the astronomical #s Pac has to back him up. Don’t be surprised if Canelo and Oscar have a fallout. My boy Danny much smarter especially after seeing Canelo sell his soul to the Devil. Go fight Kahn and see how much domestic ppv revenue that brings in lmfao.

Posted November 27, 2013 1:03 pm 


It’s Me, Ernie

Or have it in England, for free. Just charge for the beer and make a fortune on fight night, then sell the limey’s PPV the next week since they would have forgotten they were there live…

Posted November 27, 2013 12:57 pm 


Tachyon

Pacs next fight is with the Philippines government his accounts have been frozen for Tax evasion. Philippines going for the KO looks like hired JMM as the judge.

Posted November 27, 2013 12:26 pm 


Anonymous

why not charge 300 dollars,the yanks would still buy it.

Posted November 27, 2013 11:57 am 


REM

What also comes into play is that Floyd was the b side of his fight with Oscar and Floyd has put Canelo on multiple cards along with the jww tittle fight on his last card so Floyd needs extra star power while Pac carries all of his cards along with his counterpart alone. All factors in negotiations. No brainer for anyone in Pacs shoes.

Posted November 27, 2013 11:25 am 


REM

After Floyd v Cotto and Pac v Marquez 3 pac had sold 9.9mil ppv generating 525mil and Floyd had sold 9.6mil ppvs generating 540mil. Since then Floyd has sold 3mil ppvs and Pac has sold 2mil we haven’t gotten the #s for Pac v Rios yet but i’ll estimate a modest 750k which puts Pac neck and neck with Floyd in his own country in ppv revenue. Yes it is a fact this is where most of the revenue comes from but then there is international broadcasting revenue where Pac makes up the difference and will be huge if Pac fights Floyd. Now I pose the question to esb posters if your Pac generating this kind of revenue overall what cut of the split do you accept keep in mind you pay out more of your cut than Floyd does.

Posted November 27, 2013 11:04 am 


Pac Is Back

“he’s not a big KO threat at 147″ – Like Mayweather is a big KO threat at any weight. He hasn’t knocked out an opponent in years. I don’t include Ortiz because that was unsportsmen-like

Posted November 27, 2013 10:37 am 


SREDMOND

Peej, I think you got that backwards, Mayweather has gotten his fans used to consuming consistent virtuoso performances whereas PAC Man was all about stoppages and serious violence, his entertainment value was high but he took a lot of punishment 99% of boxers cannot match Floyd’s hit and don’t get hit strategy and execution… The good ones take one to give 3, the ones who exchange to win wear down quick (Rios)…. PacMan has shown he’s not a big KO threat at 147, so his public has to adjust to this new reality… In fact against Rios I saw a guy who had clearly lost some of his appetite for combat (perhaps wisely) at this point in his career… Problem is against some fighters a KO is Pacs only conceive able route to victory (Mayweather)

Posted November 27, 2013 10:32 am 


PEEJ

The problem is that Floyd needs a KO or needs to stop his opponents almost always otherwise there will always be an question marks on his wins. Pac, on the other hand, does not need to KO his opponents all the time because his skills show clearly that he is the superior boxer in the ring. No question about whether or not he can win on points.

Posted November 27, 2013 9:36 am 


SREDMOND

REM, your a nice guy but a consistent proponent of fantasy and blatant untruths… Pacquiao makes almost all his money from US PPV, fighting one fight in what 7 years in Macau means what? The PPV which is the BIGGEST money comes from the US…. Floyd Mayweather was the RICHEST, most Well compensated athlete in the world 2 years running according to Forbes and every other legit periodical these are facts not propaganda… Mayweather just fought a bout which set a new record for revenue and live gate, and he was per of the record that was broken (ODH vs May)…You can stick your fingers in your ears and keep lying to yourself that PAC Man is the biggest draw on the planet but that’s 100% false, he has been really outsold by FMJ and coming up with contrived, unsupportable numbers is not gonna vacate that reality…Manny will NEVER deserve 50% against FMJ that’s impossible to happen at this point and in fairness Team Pacquaio knows that 35% to MAX 40% depending in how this latest bout did……Mannys only has Bradley or a reluctant 40 year old Marquez who’s not even down…. If you think Danny Garcia would turn down 5 mill to fight Floyd you are crazy, he has nothing to lose and everything to gain unless he wants to pass on pretty much 3x what he typically earns…

Posted November 27, 2013 8:57 am 


Ray Ray

Ha ha ha bring manny 2 floyd….id love it. What weight? And as good as manny looked vs rios? Rios moved less than any opponent iv seen him face in a while….

Posted November 27, 2013 8:38 am 


SREDMOND

Tark, you are CHANGING your tune AGAIN…. You take issue when people “call Rios a punching bag” but YOU said the contest was “a mismatch in favor of Pacquiao” Freddy Roach “called Rios a punching bag” and Rios was so embarrassed by his showing that he got snippy with Kellerman asking “do you think I’m a punching bag?” We all know Rios is a pro boxer, that said he is known like Margo was for taking a TON if abuse from opponents win or lose, this fighter has a LOW commitment to defense and is EASY to hit, there is NOTHING tricky about Rios, no matter what or his trainer say in a press conference the “Game Plan” is ALWAYS the same ie Move Forward and take punches to land punches, Manny was too fast so he could hardly blink before he was getting hit… PAC Man did the work Kudos, that said Rios was the definition of a Handpicked opponent that presented none of the technical challenges that the guy who KOED him did…REHAB BOUT ala Cotto vs Rodriguez…

Posted November 27, 2013 8:36 am 


REM

I really wish Floyd fans would stop with this nonsense all it helps is Floyd continue to duck Pac and hurts us fans. Pac taps into markets that don’t give a rats a$$ about Floyd major markets all over Europe and Asia. The propaganda from the bubble isn’t convincing people in the real world just local pockets.

Posted November 27, 2013 8:07 am 


REM

Garcia has already said he’s not interested in a fight with Floyd he’s on his way to building himself up and booking a loss to Floyd would hurt him more than help right now. Floyd has no options right now and out of his desperation is realistically considering piggybacking off of Kahns popularity in the UK. Again the reality is career wise Pac has matched the revenue Floyd has produced in the US and has left him in the dust globally. If Pac takes 40 thanks Pac for being so generous and making the fight for us Roach has said he wouldn’t and nor would I. Pac can wait watch Showtime and Floyd get desperate and get his rightful cut at the end of the day he still has Bradley, Prog and Cotto if things get bad financially. Floyd has no leverage over Pac never has never will.

Posted November 27, 2013 7:37 am 


Auzbox

Spot on

Posted November 27, 2013 6:38 am 


bearcat’s ”granny

Floyd was good ”ten year’s ago / over rated now / won’t fight will hold you / hugg u / throw one punch and the hold again / run / give his shoulder / need I ”’say more ””boxing ”’fool’s .$$

Posted November 27, 2013 6:27 am 


Auzbox

And remember manny took hatton out in 2

Posted November 27, 2013 5:56 am 


Auzbox

Bit Rich kostya a quitter, he was the undisputed champ and beat zab correction bashed zab when he was on top of the world

Posted November 27, 2013 5:50 am 


SREDMOND

GGG is NOT a 154 pound fighter and NOT even the best MW (That’s Sergio).. Kosta Tszyu could NOT hold Mayweather jock strap, he’s a QUITTER and Floyd took the “0” of the guy who broke him via KO..Guye wanna sell Manny as an 8 weight Champ OK tell us the circumstances by which he got his title at 154 and who he beat? Margo was GARBAGE at 154 and held no belt he earned… I respect Mannys 7 solid divisions but Tony was no ones 154 pound Champ

Posted November 27, 2013 5:31 am 


SREDMOND

The problem for the Pacquiao side is the ONLY bouts they have in house are rematches and Marquez would require a 5th fight against a 40 year old boxer who has not shown interest in doing this again… Bradley was widely perceived as a robbery, that along with the relative weak sales were the reasons he was bypassed for a 4th Marquez matchup in the first place..
Arum has stated that he’s not keen on Bradley again given the sub 1mill PPV and what bit will look to get paid…Mayweather had a solid fight that can easily be made against Danny Garcia, that will do over 1 million buys… Guys are dumb if they think Floyd got that contact based on the need to do 1.5 or 2 million buys… The money people took a look at average revenue and benchmarked at 1 million buys and somewhat over to not book losses…Only an idiot would think Kobe is gonna score 81 points every game, but betting on 25-30 is very reasonable …. Reality is the TR stable is completely depleted and PAC Man cannot fight at 154 unless he is OK booking losses and getting banged up at 35….

Posted November 27, 2013 5:26 am 


DIRK

s redmond , ur right thats fair enough for pac at 40% max, i hope the negotiation for the fight will be succesful, so the biggest fight that weve been waiting will happen

Posted November 27, 2013 5:19 am 


Auzbox

Kostya was a rippa from our neighbourhood, one of our fighters is fighting shane Moseley tonight, hope Moseley has a good win against our mundine

Posted November 27, 2013 5:13 am 


Auzbox

There fight will smash the canelo fight in numbers, a lot of people say manny wants a pay day. Remember he doesn’t need money, he just wants the fight and maybe it’s just arum screwing everyone of the great fight

Posted November 27, 2013 5:11 am 


Alex

Dude avoided Kostya at 140, Manny at 147, and GGG at 154

Posted November 27, 2013 5:10 am 


SREDMOND

MMendoza, PAC won’t get a “pittance” I see him getting his biggest payday, that said he was willing to do 60/40 before things hit rock bottom (Marquez KO)…. Floyd’s a hard negotiator and he simply has the aces at the bargaining table. ie A contact that nets him a min of 32 mill per bout, his last bout being the BIGGEST revenue generator on history, his being in the BIGGEST 2 bouts in hostile and Cotto being the 3 biggest NoN HW bout, he is currently a standing Champion…. Reality is that the pot will likely be bigger than FMJ vs Canelo but Mannys getting a a smaller piece of that haul, No way more than 40% (Max) which ain’t bad but the differential could be 10’s of millions extra in Floyd’s pocket he’s not gonna be lenient with a Bob Arum fighter..Both are gonna have a sweet payday but Floyd’s already done OVER 2 million buys 2x and holds BOTH the live gate records for money… Numbers don’t lie

Posted November 27, 2013 5:06 am 


Auzbox

Yeh but PAC has won more titles in more divisions

Posted November 27, 2013 4:40 am 


Two Piece

Dancepartner – Floyd is #1 P4P champ, he doesn’t need to prove anything however it is Pac who needs to prove that he can beat the champ not thenother way around, don’t get it twisted. Pac is not even a champion, his busy fighting tailormade cherrypicks who are coming off losses while Floyd is fighting younger, stronger Champions.

Posted November 27, 2013 3:31 am 


Auzbox

Ray ray your an idiot just like saying canelo would beat mayweather in the first round

Posted November 27, 2013 3:16 am 


B Red

Old Coot, your a fool

Posted November 27, 2013 3:14 am 


Ray Ray

Rios would KTFO pacman in the first round if they fought again

Posted November 27, 2013 3:09 am 


Proud African

I love when the balls touch the back if my throat

Posted November 27, 2013 3:06 am 


Hec Dog

I love to eat poop!

Posted November 27, 2013 2:55 am 


Proud African

Yes, a low-life impersonating me. Grow up.

Posted November 27, 2013 2:51 am 


lightsoutOhio

Ray ray you freaking thief

Posted November 27, 2013 2:50 am 


Ray Ray

Manny has no chance vs Floyd at jr middle…..manny vs Garcia at jr welt 4 Dannys 2 straps 1st. Than try 2 get Floyd at welter, if a may vs manny bout is a jr middle manny has slim 2 no chance of winning.

Posted November 27, 2013 2:47 am 


lightsoutOhio

Wow…stealing my screenname and typing BS just shows how lame your life is. Period

Posted November 27, 2013 2:46 am 


Auzbox

Peej and you think that idiot amir khan can pose problems, Garcia disposed of him like a dirty nappy

Posted November 27, 2013 2:43 am 


lightsoutOhio

Mayweather is the GOAT. i dont care what you say, and his good looking too.

Posted November 27, 2013 2:40 am 


Ray Ray

No doubt manny and Floyd have both been willing……this is a worthless conversation unless Arum is willing than end of conversation…..

Posted November 27, 2013 2:39 am 


Proud African

i would do anything to meet him and hug him.

Posted November 27, 2013 2:36 am 


MMendoza

SREDMOND: Probably beneath it all — 95% of the people pay to see Mayweather win or lose to whomever he is matched up against — same for Pacquiao. None of Mayweather’s or Pacquiao’s opponents except for Cotto could pull in PPV money to the greatest extent by themselves against other boxers. The way I see it — wrong as it may be — 42 million for Maweather last fight — that’s well-deserved. 22 million for Pac and Rios, but Pac kept 18 million at least. When we put Mayweather with Pacquiao — the millions should be doubling or tripling — but it’s neither Mayweather nor Pacquiao by their own name doing that — it’s the ALCHEMY effect of both of them– practically the whole world wants to see them match up. Who knows maybe 120 million in sales. Mayweather 60% and Pacquiao at least 40%. Can’t have Pacquiao doing a pittance when it’s the both of them combined bringing the profits. Nobody really cares about losses or virtuoso — fans are not buying the fight for that. It’s about them being curious and intrigued — no matter what the facts and reality say. This is one fight fans are wishing for based more on fan fever and “soap opera” kind of build-up than any I have seen so far.

Posted November 27, 2013 2:15 am 


lightsoutOhio

Get them Filipino Nutts out your mouth boy. Haha

Posted November 27, 2013 2:06 am 


lightsoutOhio

Its officially Jerry’s kids hour!!!! Wow Hec

Posted November 27, 2013 2:02 am 


lightsoutOhio

Its officially Jerry’s kids!!!! Wow.

Posted November 27, 2013 1:58 am 


Proud African

Pac is the Lance Armstrong of boxing.

Posted November 27, 2013 1:58 am 


Hec Dog

Please don’t disrespect Manny Pacquiao by asking is he a threat to Mayweather. The title should read is Mayweather a threat to Pacquiao. Manny Pacquiao is arguably the greatest fighter ever, and without a doubt the most pure fighter in history. He has accomplished more than any boxer in the history of boxing. Winning 8 division titles is unheard of. No one including the great ones like Duran, Leonard, Robinson, Chavez and every single other great fighter has even come close. This alone separates Manny Pacquiao from everyone else in boxing history. His unique, wolverine like fighting style is a brutal one. He can become both the predator and the prey as his plan of attack. You never know what he’s going to do. One day he comes at you like a tornado, another day he comes at you as graceful as the legendary race horse Secretariat. His reign of terror during his prime is unequaled as he dissected and dismantled a list of great opponents like Oscar de La Hoya, Marco Antonio Barrera, Erik Morales, Rickey Hatton, Shane Mosely, Miguel Cotto and others. This is a man that is sought after by such big corporations and companies like Nike, Hennessy, Monster Energy Drink, Hewlett Packard, San Miguel beer, Pistachios and many more. Manny Pacquiao is a mixture of grace, strength, humility and talent. He is the most popular athlete of all time. Manny Pacquiao will one day defeat Floyd Mayweather in stunning fashion, and he will cement his legacy as the greatet fighter of all time. I continue to be amazed at the ability and the skills he has inside the boxing ring. His speed and power are unmatched. His movement and command of the boxing ring will be studied for years. Future generations will learn how to be real scientific and masterful boxers as they study Manny Pacquiao’s unique and superior fighting style. Manny is at a much higher fighting level than the great Bruce Lee ever was. Meaning no disrespect to Mr. Bruce Lee, but Manny Pacquiao has no comparison. He puts it all together in his fighting skills, and transfers it all into his public life. Just look at what he has done outside of the ring. Manny is a great singer, actor, philanthropist, congressman, clothing designer and model. Manny was sought after and asked to join President Obama and his family at the White House. He was offered more money than any other famous person to lace the cover of TIME Magazine, which he did. All of these accolades coming from a man that grew up in poverty. He had no education, he had no one to open up doors or lead him anywhere. This man is a miracle. I am a big fan of Manny Pacquiao because of what he has done with his life. If there were ever a man that would amount to nothing, he was the one you would bet on. Incredible to look at him today. He has been on FORBES list every year. Manny Pacquiao receives all of this because he is a true believer in God. He practices what he preaches, and people follow him. he fights for those that can’t fight for themselves. He doen’t know how to quit. He gets attacked inside the ring and outside the ring, and sometimes he losses, but he always comes back. This is a blessed man that will have us in awe even when he retires from the ring. All the questions have been answered. Manny Pacquiao deserves the respect from all fight fans regardless if they like him or not. Manny is the best.

Posted November 27, 2013 1:54 am 


PEEJ

All this leads to one logical conclusion – Pac KO Floyd in six easy rounds.

Posted November 27, 2013 1:50 am 


Old Coot

@ Anonymous: I have outlined why you and others who make the same argument are dead wrong at least a dozen times… And I am tired of doing so… But just suffice it to say that if you think because Floyd beat Marquez and Marquez beat Manny, then you really don’t get how styles and other intangibles like hand and foot-speed, gumption, heart, stamina, power and a warrior spirit and chin make fights… So trust me… Floyd could run from and pot-shot Marquez Gatti, Guererro or Alvarez who are not fleet of foot, and were too slow to get to him… But he won’t do it to Manny. And Manny won’t get tired either… Not to mention, Floyd simply doesn’t hit hard enough to get Manny’s respect nor KO him like Marquez got lucky and did. That is not unless Floyd sucker punches Manny like he did Ortiz!… Maybe Floyd will sucker punch Manny while he’s sitting on the stool with Freddie giving him pointers. LOL!!!

Posted November 27, 2013 1:48 am 


PEEJ

The problem is that Pac needs a KO or needs to stop his opponents almost always otherwise there will always be an question marks on his wins. Floyd, on the other hand, does not need to KO his opponents all the time because his skills show clearly that he is the superior boxer in the ring. No question about whether or not he can win on points. Just an example, Pac obviously lost to Bradley because he could not display the clear cut decision victory on points like Floyd.

Posted November 27, 2013 1:48 am 


lightsoutOhio

Only dirty thing in boxing beside WBC( we all agree all that lol) is Top Stink- loaded gloves with maragcheater, not testing a fighter who failed a test already Chavez Jr, judging- Rios lost to B class fighter Abril, pacman vs Bradley and etc.

Posted November 27, 2013 1:40 am 


Anonymous

Look at the history of Top Rank again Arum keeps all his fighters in house Bradley, Manny Marquez will fight each other, Its not about fear Arum is a greedy Jew. Back in the days Floyd left Top rank because he wanted to fight De la Hoya and Cotto and Arum would never allow it. There is politics is boxing you dont make it to be a 5 time world champion being scared. Floyd has called out Bradley and Manny many times. Arum wont have it He wants a Bradley Rematch and Marquez 5 Manny make 5 mil a gight Floyd make 100 mil, He offered Manny 30 mil and the fool turned it down and goes on to be K.T.F.O. by Marquez, Like is saud they can talk all they want but Arum will never let it happen.

Posted November 27, 2013 1:29 am 


Anonymous

If you ask me I think floes pays of referee, there 2 of them ones a Mexican other a white guy all was help Floyd.

Posted November 27, 2013 1:26 am 


Auzbox

No one talks about his credibility it’s about him fighting manny like he should, he deserves to be attacked if he fights a khan or a nobody

Posted November 27, 2013 1:24 am 


Auzbox

Anonomous he didn’t beat dela Hoya convincingly or didn’t you see that

Posted November 27, 2013 1:22 am 


lightsoutOhio

old coot- Mayweather makes fighters look like amatures. also I think you need to watch the mayweather vs cotto fight again…mayweather schooled cotto first 7- 8 RDS with boxing skill and counter punching. Its not what Cotto did in the fight but why Mayweather changed his style to fight toe to toe with Cotto…..1)most likely to make it fight friendly fans 2) mayweather stated he would do this . and did. Fans like you didn’t believe this…just like may weather would fight Canelo. Get them Filipino Nutts out your mouth and give the P4P king credit when its due.

Posted November 27, 2013 1:21 am 


Anonymous

Coot what are you smoking bro? What fighter has been able to land on Floyd ? Marquez dropped manny and all of there fights have been questionable. Floyd has never been beat he beats everyone convincingly. Manny beat everyone Floyd had already been through. Hatton, De la hoya. Marquez did not win one round on Floyd. Manny beat a dehydrated punching bag Rios Big deal who by the way was handpicked. Canelo is a beast and he got completely dominated. Manny is not even in the same league. Arum is a big con he will match Manny with a rematch with bradley then Marquez 5. Top rank wants no part of Mayweather they never have. Styles make fights Marquez he not 10 percent good as Floyd and he drops Manny twice gives him the blues every fight whats do you think a counter puncher like MW will do to him? Floyd goes toe to toe with no one his is a pure boxer. The object is to hit and not get hit.

Posted November 27, 2013 1:21 am 


Anonymous

Is Floyd ducking Bradley?

Posted November 27, 2013 1:17 am 


Anonymous

Can Floyd a goonies tell me if Floyd isn’t address of a fast boxer, why not one word about fighting Bradley ? No one word as if he don’t exist, don’t you think that Bradley also has a no lost record to right?

Posted November 27, 2013 1:16 am 


Old Coot

B Red: I do too… But you AND Floyd will come up short!! And FLOYD KNOWS IT TOO!! Trust me!!

Posted November 27, 2013 1:08 am 


Old Coot

@ lightsoutOhio: Canelo, is great! But only if you stand in front of him… However, just like Floyd and more recently Bradley proved fighters who can’t come forward like Marquez, or Guererro or Gatti, or CANELO who have slow legs and feet can’t get to Floyd… But if Cotto was fleet footed enough to get to him, Manny CERTAINLY can. And it goes without saying… But I will anyway, that Floyd, who loves to keep his face “pretty”, won’t be willing to go toe to toe with Manny to land bombs like Marquez did.

Posted November 27, 2013 1:06 am 


B Red

Old Coot, Floyd will whip Pac and Martinez. Thats the fight i wanna see, ya dig

Posted November 27, 2013 1:02 am 


lightsoutOhio

Odd since Mayweather fought Canelo who weighted 165 on fight night…P4P king whooped him. Pacman already stated he wouldn’t fight Canelo too big and too much power.
Top stink kills this fight. All the BS and stealing money from boxing fan…but everyone’s starting to get smart. Pacman vs JMM only 1.15mil PPV, pacman vs Bradley a sad 800-900k PPV

P4P king mayweather vs Canelo =2.48 mil PPV

Posted November 27, 2013 12:54 am 


Old Coot

Yep… And Floyd and most of his fans like Boxtradamus and Peej keep trying to protect Floyd from an Pac or Sergio beat-down, by saying Sergio is too big and that people like Khan or Bradley deserve it more than Pac! LOL!!

Posted November 27, 2013 12:30 am 


REM

Old Coot yup Pac and Martinez who offered to boil down to 150. Two fighters who would reap huge ppv revenue but two exetremely athletic southpaws who’d make Floyd look very bad.

Posted November 27, 2013 12:25 am 


Old Coot

Correction… An overrated A defender, not a fighter!

Posted November 27, 2013 12:22 am 


Old Coot

And overrated A.

Posted November 27, 2013 12:21 am 


Old Coot

When Manny gets Floyd on the ropes and pounds him he will elbow and will HUG Manny from start to finish, and won’t give a damned when the fans boo!

Posted November 27, 2013 12:21 am 


B Red

Old Coot, do you think Floyd is an A list fighter or B list or C ?

Posted November 27, 2013 12:20 am 


Old Coot

@ Rem: EXACTAMUNDO!! You nailed it… Floyd avoids southpaws like the plague… Because his shoulder roll is only good for defending against rights. Which means he will pick off many of Pacs’ too. But he has never faced an ambidextrous onslaugher like Manny, which means Floyd’ right-side would be prime meat for Pac’s main weapon… His powerhouse left, at all angles!

Posted November 27, 2013 12:14 am 


Old Coot

B-Red… Cotto was NOT weight-drained… He looked well-muscled and sharper than ever against Pac. Do you REALLY think those two pounds would have mattered?

Posted November 27, 2013 12:06 am 


REM

BRed you missed what he was saying if Cotto could give Floyd the fight he did Pac a better fighter would do better. Cotto did show that a sharp lefthand still penetrates Floyds defense. I kept teasing Floyd fans watching the fight with me saying what if that was a Pac straight left.

Posted November 26, 2013 11:55 pm 


Old Coot

@ Rem: Yep, I was at the first Castillo fight as a Mayweather fan, Although I thought he was given the victory… But at least back then he fought everyone and was a real fighter… He lost me when he moved up to WW and started ducking threats like Mosley, William, Cotto and Margarito, when most were undefeated or near undefeated too!

Posted November 26, 2013 11:51 pm 


B Red

Old Coot, different fight, Cotto was weight drained at 145 when he fought Napman, and was 154 when he fought Floyd.

Posted November 26, 2013 11:48 pm 


Old Coot

@ B Red: Oh… So Cotto, who has about 2/3 of everything Pacman has, that’s hand and foot-speed, agility, angular power in BOTH fists, work-rate and stamina, HE could drive Floyd to the ropes and bloody him… But an ONSLAUGHTER like Manny can’t?! Think about it.

Posted November 26, 2013 11:44 pm 


REM

I also enjoy watching Floyd fight and was a fan of his when he was a lw he was a beast who fought the best the division had to offer then he went up to ww and the gimmicks started. Pac doesn’t need to prove he can beat Floyd he needs to be economically viable and its indisputable that he is. The only conclusion one can come to is that Floyd isn’t completely confident he can beat Pac and continue to reap major revenue from there on.

Posted November 26, 2013 11:43 pm 


DancePartner

Come on, Floyd has the power of life or death so to speak if the fight between Pac or Floyd happens or not Floyd needs to green light it already. I can understand though if Floyd will explain why he wont fight Pacquiao on the bases that it is for a business decision that the fight with Pacquiao wont happen right now, He needs to explain or say something so people wont hound him

Posted November 26, 2013 11:43 pm 


Tortilla Muncher

Pac defeated a one-dimensional Rios. When he meets an elite fighter like the undefeated Mayweather, he’ll lose terribly.

Posted November 26, 2013 11:42 pm 


DancePartner

I don’t argue that odds that people claim Floyd has a much better chance at beating Pacquiao since I can agree on that….. but my contention is, Floyd or Pacquiao needs to fight each other in order to put to rest who can beat who and prove to the world who is better once and for all in real life boxing match and not on paper

Posted November 26, 2013 11:39 pm 


Sheriff Joe’s chicken

Dance partner- I didnt mean for it to come out like that but people forget he is UNDEFEATED. A P4P champ. He has beaten the man that beat Pacquioa. Mayweather is a sniper where as Pacquioa is more like machine gunner. A sniper will stop enemys in their tracks because they dont know where to shoot. A machine gunner can ALSO stop enemys BUT will be seen and targeted. Easily taken out by a sniper.

Posted November 26, 2013 11:38 pm 


Old Coot

If the fight never happens, Manny will STILL be considered an ATG… But if not, Floyd’s undefeated legacy will have the “but” asterisk to hound him & it… As in- “BUT, he never beat Pacman!!” Translation, Floyd needs Manny more, to seal his greatness!

Posted November 26, 2013 11:37 pm 


B Red

Tomato Can, the Top Rank card was awful, but they figured they will get the money in china because of Pac and Lou Shimming. Pac also needed to make more money because they take less taxes out in China, we cant hate on that. That dude Tark is very delusional if he thinks Floyd is going to a fight in Asia, hahahahaha, ya dig

Posted November 26, 2013 11:37 pm 


DancePartner

correction: “that doesn’t mean I hate Floyd”*****

Posted November 26, 2013 11:36 pm 


DancePartner

Sheriff, it sounded like you are making more excuses for Floyd.

Even I root for Pacquiao but that doesn’t mean I don’t hate Floyd or anything like that. In fact, I like Floyd, I also love to hate him in a fun way, him and the character he portray himself to be. I even watch Floyd’s every boxing match.

Posted November 26, 2013 11:34 pm 


B Red

Old Coot, your buggin out my brother, you ususally nail boxing analyis but you got it wrong on this one. Pac does not have the skill set to beat Floyd nore the ring generalship. I just think you hate Floyd, ya dig

Posted November 26, 2013 11:32 pm 


Sheriff Joe’s chicken

Look kids. You all say you’re tired of hearing of Mayweather… I can see that. He isnt exactly a person to look up to but neither is Pacquioa. Give credit. Thats all im saying. Pacquioa STILL HAS TO PROVE that he too can beat Mayweather. He talks a big game and has you all fooled that he wants to face Mayweather then makes up excuses to not concede to the reigning P4P champ’s demands. Fact is Mayweather has soundly beaten everyone with the exception of the 1st Castillo fight. Can you count how many times Pacquioa lost in his entire professional career? How many times has he been KO? How many CONTROVERSIAL fights Pacquioa has had in the past fights with Marquez? A fighter Mayweather already beaten WITHOUT any controversy. That is why Mayweather will always be favored to win against Pacquioa.

Posted November 26, 2013 11:31 pm 


Tomato Can

Actually I was ashamed to get Manny’s last fight. While I enjoyed watching Manny bounce back from adversity, Arum clearly was catering to nothing but Pacfans. That card was probably the worst card I’ve seen in years. It was so bad in fact, I’ll be steering clear of Top Rank cards from no on, even if Pacquiao’s headlining…

Posted November 26, 2013 11:30 pm 


B Red

Tomato Can has the beat

Posted November 26, 2013 11:27 pm 


Old Coot

Tomato Can: Nah… Marquez is willing to stand there & absorb 3 bombs to time Manny with 1 counter… But Floyd is not and he’s never fought a Onslaughter like Manny!

Posted November 26, 2013 11:27 pm 


DancePartner

My Opinion is, ultimately Floyd calls the shot whether this fight happens or not. It’s up to him and I’m pretty sure Pac would be more than willing to take a much smaller cut now than before

Posted November 26, 2013 11:26 pm 


REM

Tomato can I couldn’t agree more about not giving a crap about the revenue but Floyd fans defend his indefensable position on the purse split. Simply respect what Pac brings to the table and split the enormous global revenue. But since Pac has the ability to end Floyds gravytrain Floyd won’t hear none of it.

Posted November 26, 2013 11:26 pm 


Old Coot

Rem: Exactly!!… Floyd knows that once his zero is history, so’s his PPV draw. But Manny’s a crowd pleaser, who could lose 3 times & people’d still pay to see him fight.

Posted November 26, 2013 11:24 pm 


Tomato Can

Yup, and Manny has to prove he can beat Mayweather as well. Getting KTFO by Marquez, sure hurt his claim, not matter what any of us think or say…

Posted November 26, 2013 11:22 pm 


Tomato Can

“Floyd has no leverage in negotiations.” If you keep that way of thinking, you might as well kiss the fight goodbye, cause Manny’s is clearly nowhere close to the drivers seat.

Posted November 26, 2013 11:21 pm 


REM

Dance partner your post is gospel.

Posted November 26, 2013 11:20 pm 


REM

Old Coot there’s so much truth to that. People tune in to see Floyd lose and once it happens the curtains come down on Floyd. Pac lost to Morales on ppv and became an even bigger ppv star. Pac really leaves Floyd in the dust globally in the sport of boxing .

Posted November 26, 2013 11:19 pm 


DancePartner

All these talk about Floyd beating Pacquiao is getting old. People can claim Floyd can beat Pacquiao easily but at the end of the day, sooner or later Floyd has to prove he can beat Pacquiao and win against him convincingly otherwise all these talk about Floyd beating Pacquiao is just wet dreams from floyd camp. You still got to prove it and rack up a win against pacquiao

Posted November 26, 2013 11:18 pm 


Old Coot

Not to mention that totally unlike for Manny, if Floyd lost twice…. He might as well retire! LOL!!

Posted November 26, 2013 11:15 pm 


Old Coot

@ Peej: So if Floyd gets a patented Pacman beat-down, Floyd will be old PPV news against anyone but a rematch with Pac!

Posted November 26, 2013 11:13 pm 


DancePartner

And still Floyd is ducking Pacquiao.

Posted November 26, 2013 11:13 pm 


REM

Just read that the revenue from Pacs fights broadcasted around the world put him ahead of Floyd in revenue drawn. The article was written around the time Pac fought Clottey and Floyd fought Marquez examiner.com. No reason not to believe that trend didn’t continue from there Pac averaged a mil domestic ppv buys only the Bradley fight sold just under a mil. Overall Pac has drawn more revenue globally than Floyd to boxing and brings the global market with him in a fight with Floyd. Floyd has no leverage in negotiations.

Posted November 26, 2013 11:11 pm 


DancePartner

ha, even for a person from a fourth world country as you say, Pacquiao ain’t doing bad at all….if you compare pacquiao from boxer who came from more developed countries, Pacquiao is in a better position, popularity wise and ppv wise

Posted November 26, 2013 11:10 pm 


Old Coot

@Peej: And THAT’S the main reason Floyd is so scared to fight Pacman, because he knows that win or lose people will STILL pay to see Manny fight, NOT him…

Posted November 26, 2013 11:09 pm 


srminimo

Peej- there is one big difference: Floud formed his opinion from watching PAC fight others and Pac from having fought the guy three previous times. And I’m hard pressed to buy improved training, especially over 3 months. Look at Ariza and Ríos. Where were the abs Ariza promised?

Posted November 26, 2013 11:09 pm 


Old Coot

Peej… But when it comes to Floyd, fans MOSTLY pay to see him lose! Because it sure ain’t to see his boring ass fight…

Posted November 26, 2013 11:08 pm 


DancePartner

Floyd can sell much PPV without a good dance partner

Posted November 26, 2013 11:08 pm 


Old Coot

@ Peej: Wrong again… The reasons for Floyd’s PPV and Manny’s are apples and oranges… People pay to see Manny fight… No matter what…

Posted November 26, 2013 11:06 pm 


ha

PEDcquiao is an icon from a fourth world country which means he’s a nobody. Even in this fight he had a 30 day cutoff. What a joke. I might respect him if he wasn’t a cheat but his actions dont lie. He avoid testing and still has.

Posted November 26, 2013 11:02 pm 


PEEJ

Nope not trying push buttons laying out the facts. He sold more PPV than Pac with all those opponents. The 3rd and 4th Marquez fights are the only ones that sold more and that was pushed by the Marquez fans. Fact is Pac has been apart of more PPVs than Floyd yet Floyd has sold more. Floyd makes more money that Pac, sells more than Pac there fore he is gonna get a much larger purse than Pac but doesn’t matter cause as long as he is with Arum fight won’t happen

Posted November 26, 2013 10:48 pm 


Tomato Can

Who gives a Krap about PPV and payday numbers??? What does that matter. Pac is an ICON where he’s from, there’s no way Mayweather or anyone else could beat Pac’s homeland status, in their respective lands of the plentiful… That’s all beside the point of weather you think Pac could actually beat Mayweather… I read these posts about Manny’s south paw stance, and speed being all that is needed to beat Mayweather and laugh my A$$ off… There’s no way Mayweahter would let Manny in range long enough to win more than 3 rounds. That leaves Manny with having to KO Mayweather with one punch. Some may think that’ll happen, but have we seen anything to really make us think that’ll be the case??? Manny may be willing to fight Floyd, and I hope it happens, but Manny won’t win, and Manny’s fans will not give Mayweather any credit for the out classing that will take place on that night.

Posted November 26, 2013 10:41 pm 


Tachyon

If Canelo can’t out weigh you by 20 pounds OdH want match him up.

Posted November 26, 2013 10:39 pm 


Old Coot

Peej: As usual you are trying to push buttons because you know full well that Floyd BARELY outsold Manny in PPV when they each fought, Hatton, Oscar, Marquez, Mosley and Cotto.

Posted November 26, 2013 10:38 pm 


REM

Peej the Showtime vp said he’s confident the fight sold a mil he wouldn’t say it did. Only domestic ppvs are counted over here and Floyd odviously being his own promoter keeps most of the revenue from his fights but Pac he drawn as much revenue in the U.S as Floyd has.

Posted November 26, 2013 10:30 pm 


PEEJ

Someone needs to show these world numbers Pac is so called producing cause he is only pulling in so much money. If he is pulling in all these viewers why is Floyd selling more PPVs and why is he the highest paid athlete?

Posted November 26, 2013 10:14 pm 


Fritz

Peej, that was Roach who insinuated that Marquez was on PEDs.

Pacquiao never declined blood test. He just wasnt comfort being tested by Golden Boy’s buddies at USADA. Mayweather ducked Pacquiao by declining Pacs being tested by WADA. Then Floyd ducked Pac again by refusing to a 50/50 split. Then the Floyd ducked Pac again by refusing to fight in Arum’s arena

Posted November 26, 2013 10:13 pm 


PEEJ

Floyd’s prior fight sold a mil. That is from showtimes vp. Everything else is hear say

Posted November 26, 2013 10:12 pm 


te tumbo

SHERIFF JOE, nice work! it’s nice to see that even when i’m not posting, Public Nuisance just can’t get me out of his obsessed psycho-b*tch pea-brain.

Posted November 26, 2013 10:01 pm 


Tacos and Burritos

And Mayweather beat Canelo. Pac next.

Posted November 26, 2013 9:54 pm 


REM

Its basic math that if Pac v Bradley sold 900k with Bradley beating Marquez and the contraversy from the 1st fight its a no brainer. Everyone outside the bubble knows Canelo was responsible for those # s because Floyds prior fight sold 900k. Pac brings 12 mil ppvs sold and his global boxing icon status to the table major leverage no half wit business man would accept these terms and you know this

Posted November 26, 2013 9:54 pm 


PEEJ

I don’t think he though Rios was juicing neither. But like Floyd he accused Marquez because Marquez KOd him. Floyd Sr accused him because he was knocking all these bigger guys out . So I don’t see the difference. Pac simply declined. Now he did the test with Rios with no cut off date which makes me believe he really doesn’t want to fight Floyd. Remember on First Take when he was asked if he wanted to fight Floyd? He had to put on his sunglasses to answer that question. Now why was that?

Posted November 26, 2013 9:51 pm 


Delk1

MONOBROW. SAID: Prime Pacquiao would’ve beat the dirt out of Mayweather no ifs or buts.

WELLLL why can’t he do it now. Mayweather is almost 40. Manny himself said he is not past his prime. Manny probably could of TORE Mayweathers head off, He probably could have ran up the empire state building, and still kicked Mayweathers as-. He probably could have had Dranked 3 pints of GIN and still knock Mayweathers teeth out. BUT we will never know now will we, Mr. Super BAD Pacman was afraid of needles. Of course now that he is BROKE is has found some new courage in giving Blood.

You see what I mean about DUM statement.
If Pac is past his prime, what the hell you think Mayweather is past. Mayweather is dam near 40 years old.WHat you think, They put Floyd in some freezer and peserve him so he wouldnt age so that he could stay in his prime? LOL

Posted November 26, 2013 9:43 pm 


Sheriff Joe’s chicken

PE- Like I said Canelo is just getting started. Cotto is washed up. Thanks for agreeing with me on that. Canelo before facing Mayweather took on Trout as a MAIN EVENT…dumba$$. Lets face it Cotto wont face Canelo and IF he did he would lose. IF Cotto is on 154lbs then why is HE not facing Lara, Quillin, Rosado or GGG??? You say he is a HOF, a complete bada$$ so then whats stop him too? Pacquioa is facing welters so dont give me that old lame excuse that he is small.

Posted November 26, 2013 9:43 pm 


Hecdog

Manny Pacquiao, the worlds most talented, exciting and humble boxer continues to be a target of those corrupt, envious government officials. Manny Paquiao is the target because he fights and does what is right for people that have nothing. This isn’t the first time he’s been attacked. In the end, the truth will come out and Manny will receive his hard earned money. As the most popular and beloved and admired political figure, Manny has enemies reering their ugly faces in an attempt to bring Manny Pacquiao down. They rain on his parade looking to tarnish his reputation. Manny will fight the good fight and prevail with yet another victory outside the boxing ring. These situations happen in life when GOOD triumphs or EVIL. Manny Pacquiao is the world’s most recognized and beloved athlet in the history of sports. You must understand that if Manny were to lose every penny he has, the world would love him and care for him even more. He will never have to rely on his fighting to make a living and take care of his family. Manny Pacquiao has more value than money. He has true character, integrity and most important, he has God. This is a man that walks the walk and talks the talk. The fighting filipino has just begun to make his name. Yes, boxing is back on top because of him, but better yet, the world recognizes the importance and value of Manny Pacquiao. He will always be able to make money if he wants to, but money is not important to Manny Pacquiao. This is a great human being that will not be forced to be anything other than what he is, which is a loyal, caring, humble, loving, inspiring person. I believe that Manny’s financial situation with the Philippine officials will force the US to make drastic changes in their relationship. Manny Pacquiao carries such power when his name is spoken. I would ask that all the USA send letters to the Philippines renouncing their treatment of our friend Manny Pacquiao. I will go a step further and ask the entire world to do the same. This man needs justice.

Posted November 26, 2013 9:29 pm 


tacoBENDER

PacMan vs Canelo would be a more intriguing fight… being that both of those fighters will not run from each other and would be willing to exchange blows… Mayweather vs Pac Man has all the makings of a great fight but will not happen due to Money May wanting MUCHO monies … just sayin’

Posted November 26, 2013 9:29 pm 


Sheriff Joe’s chicken

PE- to add: you hate on Canelo but lets face it he was a bigger draw with Mayweather than your fake wanna be hero Cotto. Canelo vs Mayweather had MORE PPV buys. Cotto might as well go back to Puerto rico and sell banannas and coconuts, hes washed up and done. Canelo is just getting started….

Posted November 26, 2013 9:18 pm 


lightsoutOhio

Mayweather won’t let Bob arum make a penny off him . top stink in trouble with they’re in house BS fights. JMM wants to fight Bradley next or he’s retiring. Who could pacman fight? Another heavybag like Rios, maybe margacheater-this time with loads gloves like when he fought Cotto(bleeding out if his eyes, ears,nose and cheek) first fight.

Plan and simple for the slow kids of the class….pacman is tailor made for the P4p king mayweather. Just like the JMM: mayweather wins all 12 RDS EASY .

Posted November 26, 2013 9:17 pm 


srminimo

Peej- I don’t think many objective fans will disagree that Floyd is the best boxer of this generation, but even now Pacquiao remains his most challenging opponent. Does it turn out that Mayweather gives him a lesson? It very we’ll could, but I’d love to see it. And yes PAC had Rios take the test, but I don’t think he thought Rios was dirty. I think he believes Marquez was juicing for the fourth fight and he’s not taking any more chances. His saying after the fight this is not about killing each other shows how he feels about the KO, and he felt something in that fight he had not expected after the first 3.

Posted November 26, 2013 9:12 pm 


SREDMOND

REM, forgive me for NOT including you on fantasy island with Hecdog and Haimat…Arum who is Pacs promoter went on the RECORD saying that he does not see a Bradley rematch as feasible considering their prior bout… This is reality Tims NOT a draw but as Champ he’s gonna want more than before to face PAC yet the overall revenue won’t be there… PAC and Rios combined had 22 mill in prize money Floyd had 41.5 all alone and he cannot be paid less than 32 mill while that 0’s intact…. Pacs gonna bend over and take the strokes, he will earn more than he has for one bout of this happens but Floyd’s percentage will trump his by a serious margin…

Posted November 26, 2013 9:11 pm 


REM

SRed give it up Pac is gonna accept for a Floyd fight what he just made with Rios ROTF…. Unrealistic to expect Pac to let Floyd have all the money from Pacs drawing power. Pac v Bradley sold 900k now with the drama in the rematch easy mil. ppv sales easy 30 mil for Pac. Whats Floyd gonna do fight Canelo again lmao no broken records this time. Business wise Pac is still in a position to demand whatever he wants in a fight with Floyd who now needs Pac for big #s. Pac still holds a great hand in negotiations and only a fool would give away his brand and let Floyd make 100mil off his name no deal.

Posted November 26, 2013 9:00 pm 


SREDMOND

Popkins how is it that Mayweather’s “Prime”
Never ends?? At 37 I’m sure you will say athletically he’s the same as he was at 21 which is impossible…Like all athletes Mayweather has had a TON of injuries, disclosed and undisclosed it’s impossible to box 17 years professionally and avoid them…What pisses off the crabs on ESB is that Floyd adjusts, compensates and still wins because he’s BRAINS over brawn and a monument to skill…Popkins says Mannys “past his best” but makes no mention to Mayweather who is OLDER and more flat footed …Truth is Floyd’s ALWAYS been a better fighter, he did NOT have to learn how NOT to be a one handed fighter at 30 like Pacquaio… I am a huge PAC fan and the run he went on from Barrera to Margo was crazy, but he’s NOT. Consistent virtuoso like Mayweather who could be 58 and never let Marquez knock him cold…

Posted November 26, 2013 8:52 pm 


SREDMOND

It’s sad to hear that PAC Man might be in dire financial straits but this begins to explain the immediate Mayweather rhetoric we are hearing… Pac took down an 18 mill guarantee according to ESPN’s Dan Rafael which is nothing to sneeze at but NOT close to in par with the windfalls Mayweather is reaping from his CONTRACT with Showtime, 41.5 mill not even discussing his share of the PPV UPSIDE and takedown as his own promotional entity… According to Schaefer, Canelo made close to what PAC made as the B side of the Floyd fight…I know deranged sorts like Hecdog, Haimat and tiers will claim that Pacs the most well paid boxer on earth but that’s simply NOT true… The richest events in the history if the sport were Mayweather events that’s just a FACT…PAC mans most lucrative on house fight is Marquez bit that’s a broken record that’s not likely to do more than 1.2mill which is a good number but then WHAT?? Marquez is gonna want 8 figures to entertain the bout and that’s a blow to Mannys takedown…. PAC and Bradley could not clip 1 million buys and Arum has gone on record as NOT liking the financials of a rematch…Suddenly I see a glimmer of hope, Manny might accept a FLAT 25-30 mill because he simply CANNOT create the type of events FMJ just did…. As of now NONE of us know how this latest PPV did…. I wish PAC well he’s one of the most fun to watch in history but the TR stable is depleted and he needs $$$$$$$$$$$$

Posted November 26, 2013 8:16 pm 


Proud African

First Pac has to fight Canelo and GGG.

Posted November 26, 2013 7:55 pm 


PEEJ

Once again always some wanna be wanting to be me. I should probably take that as a compliment

Posted November 26, 2013 7:14 pm 


PEEJ

Martinez is overrated. He is no P4P fighter as he is not black.

Posted November 26, 2013 7:06 pm 


PEEJ

Only reason the had Ruos do the testing is because Pac and Roach openly caused Marquez of being on something. So it’s ok for him to do it but not Floyd

Posted November 26, 2013 6:58 pm 


Sheriff Joe’s chicken

Mayweather would beat Pacquioa. Make him look like an amatuer in the ring.

Posted November 26, 2013 6:53 pm 


Sheriff Joe’s chicken

Mayweather beat Canelo. Mayweather beat Marquez with ease. Bothe Canel and Marquez would destroy Pacquioa. Marquez already proved it. Canelo would tear him to pieces. Pacquioa has had carefully selected fighters and only HEC DOG thinks he can win in his world.

Posted November 26, 2013 6:49 pm 


Hidalgo

“ummm didn’t Pac just make Rios take the test”

I don’t think anyone made Rios do anything, Peej. It was a bargaining point in the contract and obviously Rios agreed to it. Besides, Brandon has never had anything to hide. He doesn’t need steroids to do his fighting for him.

Posted November 26, 2013 6:47 pm 


Sheriff Joe’s chicken

Im talking about if Pacquioa would fight Canel Alvarez. Pacquioa would get destroyed by Canelo.

Posted November 26, 2013 6:46 pm 


lightsoutOhio

Haha

You can want you want buddy…Pacman already stated he wouldn’t fight Canelo- no balls. Mayweather did and whooped canelo.

Posted November 26, 2013 6:46 pm 


Sheriff Joe’s chicken

Pacquioa would get his ass knock out cold and wake up in the ICU. Pacquioa is no killer.

Posted November 26, 2013 6:45 pm 


Bakie

Now it’s up to Floyd. If Floyd is a true champion then he should accept the fight. Every boxing fans likes to see a fight between a great defense vs an amazing offense and this will answer the question who really is the king of the sport. Enough of all these bs…just fight. I’m tired of reading that Floyd is the best or Pacquiao is better. Who are you to say that? Fight must happen to answer all that. They will be both bbbsssss if the fight don’t happen.

Posted November 26, 2013 6:44 pm 


srminimo

lightsoutOhio- Pac would WRECK Canelo. And Rios, Margarito, DLH, Clottey, Mosley, Cotto and even Hatton were all bigger than Pacquiao.

Posted November 26, 2013 6:32 pm 


PEEJ

Martinez is overrated. He is no P4P fighter. You just have to deal with Floyd being the greatest fighter of his generation. Facts are facts. When you twist them to make your points they no longer become facts and they just become your lame theories. So you’ll just have to deal with it. Floyd called out both Oscar and Cotto in their primes and they chose to ignore Floyd. Funny how Cotto is still fighting and people are now saying he would win a rematch. Margacheato had to cheat to beat him and Oac made him come in at a Catchweight. Pac was offered the fight a couple times and he turned it down. Problem is these fighters know they are gonna take an L against Floyd so the opt out. Unfortunately for Pac he took an L from Bradley after turning down 40 mil

Posted November 26, 2013 6:30 pm 


lightsoutOhio

Its clearly Jerry’s kids hour

Pacman wouldn’t dare to fight Canelo or Sergio. Only b class fighter Rios or soft hitting Bradley. Pacman only didn’t 1.15mil PPV vs jmm and only 800k Ppv vs Bradley

Mayweather vs canelo 2.48mil PPV. Mayweather tried to fight Shane and Oscar earlier but both wouldn’t fight him. Drink the Tall Glass if SHUT The F#ck popkins…aka posterboy for Jerry’s kids.

Posted November 26, 2013 6:22 pm 


deric

ALL ROADS LEAD TO FLOYD MAYWEATHER……….

SOUNDS TRUER BY THE MOMENT… MANNY AINT NEVER MADE 40 MIL

FLOYD MAKING 100 MIL THIS YEAR ALONE…. MANNY HASNT MADE THAT IN HIS DYNAMIC RUN….

ARUM HAD ALL THE COWS @ ONE TIME… OSCAR, FLOYD, COTTO AND MANNY…. FLOYD WAS NOT THE MOST MARKETABLE BUT THE BEST OF THE FOUR SKILLS WISE… YOU SEE OSCAR MADE THE MOST MONEY EVER WITH WHO…… COTTO MADE HIS MOST MONEY EVER WITH WHO…BUT NOT UNDER BOB ARUM….. IF TIM BRADLEY IS SMART HE WONT SIGN THE EXTENSION….BECAUSE HE CAN GET THE $$$ TICKET!!!!

Posted November 26, 2013 6:20 pm 


Popkins

Mayweather v Martinez?? Sounds like a fighter Floyd wud pick. Sergio has been a great pound for pounder but is now on his last legs, having arguably lost his last bout with Martin Murray. Sergio has one or two fights left at elite level b4 he’s completely shot against the division’s best – he’s ripe for the taking. … Easy pickings for Floyd to get another big name on his record and pick up another belt. It will look great on his record in 20-30 years. Like the Mosley fight and possible fight against PAC people will eventually forget that these guys were well past their primes.

Posted November 26, 2013 6:14 pm 


Titopa

11th World Title – What I’m saying is apparently he hasn’t paid his US taxes, otherwise getting the papers to prove it would be a simple thing…but it’s been TWO years and not a single legal paper has been provided to prove he paid his taxes? C’mon!

Posted November 26, 2013 6:09 pm 


Popkins

Mayweather patiently waits, hoping his biggest threats will either drastically deteriorate or disappear altogether. He waited for Mosley, Cotto and Oscar to b at the tail end of their career b4 he fought them. He waited for Margarito to get battered twice before becoming no longer relevant. And he’s waiting for the Pacquiao storm of 2008-2009 to blow itself out. And wen the time is right he’ll collect the pieces so he can get Pacquiao’s “name” on his record.

Posted November 26, 2013 6:00 pm 


PEEJ

Umm funny but a lot of Pacs fight happened at the MGM, 40 mil is a pretty big payday, especially when it is his largest pay day ever, ummm didn’t Pac just make Rios take the test? Why was that because he thought Marequez was on something. So it is ok for Pac to accuse people of taking stuff but it isn’t ok for Floyd to do it? Floyd only fights on Cinco De Mayo Weekend and Mexican Independence day, something you have to deal with. Floyd is in control and calls his own shots. Pac has to go through his adviser and promoter. And what is the problem of him training in America? He does that anyways. So all your points are pointless. Fact is Pac and company turned the fight down because he was afraid of needles, superstitious, gets weekend from the blood being drawn, wont take 40 mil, needs a stadium built for the fight. So I think you should take that up with Pac and company to see why he declined to fight the greatest fighter of this generation.

Posted November 26, 2013 5:57 pm 


lightsoutOhio

Mayweather vs Sergio is a better fight….mayweather can make All the MONEY and get PPV. Plus pick up another belt in a new divison. Would need to be at a catch-because mayweather will only weight max 147. Sergio already stated 154. Top stink can eat S#it.

Posted November 26, 2013 5:57 pm 


lightsoutOhio

Its funny that some pacman fans think Mayweather would run if they fought…he just stood with Canelo a big 154lber….a boxer pacman will never fight because of his size and power. Mayweather whooped him! Mayweather would use footwork (pacman does this too) , counter punch ( since his the best in the game at this) , and punching angles. Mayweather vs pacman would go just like the mayweather vs JMM. Pacman get whipped all 12 rds by Mayweather. The only way this fight happens if Top Stink gets dropped by pacman. Mayweather gets the fight game- make mega fights and go down in history as one of thee best. Not hiding behind top stink: I don’t like needles, no drug test, or Bob arums outdoor Stadium BS. Bobs trying to steal your money so he can keep buying the high graded weed so him and Chavez Jr can keep smoking. Pacman vs Rios ,Rios got schooled by Abril – a guy no where near pacman level. Anyone that brought the PPV is dumber then Arum saying: “It’s Going To Be Like Hagler-Hearns” SUCKERS. Pacman beating Rios means nothing he’s a b class fighter. Pacman not on Mayweather level!! Mayweather should fight Sergio @154…pay him a flat fee with Mayweather getting all PPV
Pacman might get smart and Drop Top Stink.

Posted November 26, 2013 5:55 pm 


Hidalgo

“Everytime Marquez loses, instead of giving his opponent credit, he CRIES of ROBBERY.”

That’s right Johnny. Marquez claims that all of his losses were robberies. All seven of them.

LOL. Right.

Posted November 26, 2013 5:54 pm 


Hidalgo

1. Delk1, I challenge you to show proof that Manny Pacquiao said he was afraid of needles.

2. Manny Pacquiao said giving blood shortly before a fight made him weak because of the incident he had before his fight with Morales in 2005.

3. There’s a number of reasons why Pac may want to do more rigorous drug testing now:

He doesn’t believe Marquez got his newfound bulk and strength from natural means. Or:

If he shows that he’s willing to do random testing maybe the fight with Floyd will be made. Or:

Pac wants to show people he’s clean.

Posted November 26, 2013 5:47 pm 


deepwater

MAKE THE FIGHT. REAL MEN FIGHT. WANKERS TALK ABOUT EXCUSES

Posted November 26, 2013 5:30 pm 


KFC

Funny how Floyd fanboys bringing up tax issues just so they have excuse why Floyd is afraid of fighting pacquiao.

Posted November 26, 2013 5:26 pm 


KFC

To be honest, Pac needs to settle his tax obligation pronto.

Posted November 26, 2013 5:22 pm 


KFC

And still Floyd has not a win column against Pacquiao on record. Sooner or later you have to back up your claim that Floyd can beat Pacquiao otherwise it’s all moot and just hot air.

Posted November 26, 2013 5:17 pm 


Popkins

Regardless of the fact that Manny is well past his peak now, and Mayweather is still in his prime. Another point worth remembering is that Floyd is a full blown Welterweight and Manny is a Lightweight … Mayweather is TWO divisions bigger than PAC. …………Hagler may hav beaten a bulked up Duran on points, but Roberto is still arguably the better fighter pound for pound. And Calzaghe may hav beaten a faded RJJ, but prime for prime most people wud still pick Roy to win.

Posted November 26, 2013 4:43 pm 


Johnny

Ariza kicked his master in the chest, but he still went to Rios’ corner and congratulate them and hugged Garcia and Ariza, too. What a sportsmanship this great man has. We haven’t seen one boxer like him and we will never see one in our lifetime.

Marquez? I have nothing against Marquez, but he doesn’t have sportsmanship at all. Everytime Marquez loses, instead of giving his opponent credit, he CRIES of ROBBERY. As we have seen, he cried three times against Pacquiao and Pacquiao gave him 4 fights, which made him rich. Sadly, Marquez just can’t accept REAL defeats.

Posted November 26, 2013 4:40 pm 


Johnny

Manny is the peoples Champion and #1 Global Icon; Love by billions. What a gifted son from God. Respect this great man.

Posted November 26, 2013 4:35 pm 


11th World Title

@titopa, My facts are straight. What a corruption by the Philippines authorities. You want to be rich like Pacquiao, go and work your a.s.s. out; STOP using your power and authority to seize peoples money.

Posted November 26, 2013 4:32 pm 


Popkins

If Mayweather were to lose on points and then get KTFO … There’s no way he wud continue to be the pay per view star he is at the moment. People enjoy watching Floyd fight and are intrigued by his undefeated record, but by losing, his appeal wud greatly diminish. …. Then u have Pacman …. Win or lose, people love Manny and Love watching his fights. Money can’t buy u the kind of world wide adoration that Pacquiao has. And money can’t make u the fighter of the decade either.

Posted November 26, 2013 4:28 pm 


Titopa

PEEJ – The only reason why I WANT to see this fight is so Floyd can finally shut their mouths…anyone with any REAL boxing knowledge knows Floyd will outbox Manny and make him look BAD. If Bradley can give Manny some trouble, Floyd will give him HELL in that ring.

Posted November 26, 2013 4:27 pm 


The Coward Will Run Again

@Peej, Who made the following endless EXCUSES as tactics to kill the fight?
1) Random blood testing (as a tactic to kill the fight)
2) Accused Pacquiao of using steroids to kill the fight, but 3 years later his investigators and lawyers found nothing, so he had to pay over $5 million to Pacquiao to surrender the case outside court, or else he would have lost more, AND owed Pacquiao and public APOLOGY.
2) Only be trained in the US
3) Only on May 4th
4) Only at the MGM
5) Only $40 million FLAT WITH NO PPV SHARES, knowing that this fight would make over $350 million (ie. only 11% to Pacquiao). What a tactic to kill the fight.
6) “Step up, punk!” But later said, “I didn’t say that. Don’t put words in my mouth.” Oh yeah, you put your own words in your own mouth.
7) “In order for the fight to happen, Pacquiao will have to sign up with the Mayweather Promotions.” What? How is your greatest fear opponent going to sign with you in order to make the fight happen? Wow! What a tactic. Put you in Manny’s shoes, are you going to do that @peej? If you are, you won’t even have a chance to enter the ring because you were done before that. I think you know what I mean.
8) Latest news: “I won’t give Pacquiao a chance to fight me.” What? You won’t have your #1 fear to BEAT you? Oh yeah, you are right.

ONLY ONE CORRECT ANSWER: FLOY MAYWEATHER. Floyd plays the Fools (Floydiots) that he is not scared, and the Fools follow him.

Bottom line: Mayweather is SCARED, VERY SCARED OF PACQUIAO. This fight will NEVER happen.

FLOYD = FEAR

Posted November 26, 2013 4:26 pm 


PEEJ

To be honest I could care less if this fight takes place. There are better fights out there I would much rather see Floyd fight.

Posted November 26, 2013 4:24 pm 


springwater

you flomos and pactards can say what ever you want……this is a fight real boxing fans want to see…..fanboy crying is homo

Posted November 26, 2013 4:19 pm 


Titopa

11th World Title – Get your facts straight.

Posted November 26, 2013 4:14 pm 


Titopa

11th World Title – “The only proof Pacquiao has given of his tax payments was a letter from promoter Top Rank and HBO of the taxes he has paid to the United States, but nothing from the U.S. Internal Revenue Service.” “That is self-serving and a mere scrap of paper,” she said. “What he can do is go to the IRS, ask IRS to certify this copy (of his tax payments) as a true copy. We have been waiting for that for two years.”

Posted November 26, 2013 4:13 pm 


11th World Title

According to international treaty tax law, one doesn’t pay double taxes. Pacquiao has PAID all his taxes in the US; the US IRS has NO problem with Pacquiao. Unfortunately, since his fight against Rios happened in China with tax FREE, the Philippines tax authorities are trying to split Pacquiao’s wealth using their corrupted power. What a CORRUPTION by the Philippines tax authorities.

Posted November 26, 2013 4:04 pm 


PEEJ

Unfortunately Pac and company had too many excuses why not to fight Floyd.

Posted November 26, 2013 4:03 pm 


Two Piece

Chicago Guy – welcome back, nice to know that you still as dumb as ever. If Mayweather is cherrypicking a young, strong, JMW whose a champion and coming off his best career win vs a guy who beat Cotto, what was Rios?

Posted November 26, 2013 3:59 pm 


King Cobra

Manny, You are willing to fight Floyd, but Floyd is NOT willing to fight you. Floyd will continue his journey as a turtle picker against slow, flat-footed Hispanic boxers. You are his greatest fear, so he will NEVER fight you.

Posted November 26, 2013 3:58 pm 


slim prickman

but people think he”s the g.o.a.t LOL.

Posted November 26, 2013 3:48 pm 


TARK

Fake TARK put in the last TARK post.

Posted November 26, 2013 3:45 pm 


Monobrow

Prime Pacquiao would’ve beat the dirt out of Mayweather no ifs or buts. This is something Mayweather was keenly aware of which is why he pulled the most disgraceful duck in the history of pugilism. Mayweather has not only never beaten a great fighter who was in their prime, he’s never even fought one. This is plainly not a coincidence.

Pacquiao proved his mettle by taking on greats Barrera, Morales, and Marquez, Mayweather would’ve never dared to climb into the squared circle against fighters of that calibre let alone done so multiple times [the Marquez fight doesn't count for obvious reasons]. So we know Pacquiao never had a problem getting in there with the best, Mayweather certainly did though, History proves it emphatically.

Mayweather found his level and never dared to venture above it because he knew if he did his cherished zero would’ve hung around about as long as the stench of a fart in a strong wind. That level was Jose Luis Castillo and shot Oscar level, both of whom he struggled like crazy against. Castillo beat him the first time out as well. When you’re barely scraping by shot Oscar who’d only fought once in almost three years and had lost 3 or his last 4 fights and losing to a B level plodder like Castillo you certainly ain’t gonna be beating any prime greats. Oscar would’ve unquestionably knocked him out if he was even half the fighter he once was. I’m not even joking about that. And Oscar was only a borderline great.

Fact is despite Mayweather ”being at the top for 17 years’ he never fought a great fighter who was in their prime, ducked Pacquiao like he had the lurgy, and cherry-picked C level cans like Victor Ortiz, Robert Guerrero, The worst 147 champ in history Baldomir, shot versions of Oscar, Mosley, Gatti, and Cotto, and hype jobs like Canelo who never beat anyone of ‘note’ other that a robbery over Austin Trout, who himself another complete hype job.

Posted November 26, 2013 3:41 pm 


Titopa

PEEJ – and when you have assistants assisting the assistants…like many greats in the past, he fell into that lifestyle and only encourages people to dig further in your pockets…when (hopefully not) he’s broke, NO ONE that’s there now…will be there then.

Posted November 26, 2013 3:29 pm 


PEEJ

That is what happens when you have that many people running your finances

Posted November 26, 2013 3:24 pm 


Delk1

PAC NEEDS to leave TOP RANK. Collect the 40 million Mayweather Promotions offered and get straight with the IRS. Of course the 40 million is probably not their anymore.

Posted November 26, 2013 3:23 pm 


Titopa

BeReal – Trust me, I too said “no way”, so I went and looked it up.

Posted November 26, 2013 2:50 pm 


Titopa

PEEJ – Yup! I truly feel bad for the guy…but I saw this coming last week when I read an article in which Freddie Roach admitted that Manny IS BROKE! he shouldn’t have left Top Rank and HBO in charge of his tax papers…apparently he was warned in 2011 that there was issues with his papers, it was never resolved.

Posted November 26, 2013 2:49 pm 


BeReal

Titopa- Ok then you know or have more information than me ,i Just read the articel and they had had an interview with manny and thats how evrything came across. If you have that information i do not say otherwise at all.I just told it as I understood it. If thats true that he was broke before WTF is going on.

Posted November 26, 2013 2:48 pm 


Titopa

BeReal – Go get the facts bro. That’s what I did, he borrowed 1 million BEFORE his fight on Sunday, they JUST froze his accounts I think yesterday or today…out of 22 of his banks, ONLY 2 said they received deposits of $25K, which is now been garnished by the government.

Posted November 26, 2013 2:48 pm 


PEEJ

All I know is that when you have problems with the IRS normally it means you are about to be broke.

Posted November 26, 2013 2:47 pm 


Titopa

BeReal – No, he borrowed 1 million BEFORE they froze his accounts…if he’s not broke, why did he have to borrow money?

Posted November 26, 2013 2:44 pm 


BeReal

Titopa_ as I heard it ,he is considered Broke just because they (IRS) frooze his accounts, not because he dont have any money left. He cant acces his accounts at all thats why he borrowed money to help and I guess cope for awhile during investigastion.

Posted November 26, 2013 2:39 pm 


teepee

floyd should offer him 10mil or 70/30 this time lol

Posted November 26, 2013 2:28 pm 


teepee

like i said arum already put salt in the game when he said pac will fight in april and floyd already has the mgm for may and september top rank is just talking like the last time and time before

Posted November 26, 2013 2:27 pm 


Titopa

BeReal – But besides this apparent “tax evasion” issue, he’s BROKE, Freddie Roach himself said so…Manny had to BARROW 1 million dollars to donate to the typhoon victims? Why did Manny Pacquiao, one of boxing’s highest paid fighters have to “borrow” 1 millions dollars? Doesn’t that tell you something? Apparently he only has (in his possession) 1.1 million pesos, which translates to far less American dollars.

Posted November 26, 2013 2:25 pm 


teepee

for one pacman has no defense he just come forward and no head movement floyd has def. and accurate punches and he is faster than pac far as power floyd dont have that one hiter no more and pac every since the juice thing came up his power been gone hell pac couldnt ko this dude and he was a punching bag but the fight wont happen so get over it

Posted November 26, 2013 2:24 pm 


BeReal

Its is true about Mannys account are being frozen by Phillipines IRS ,This is all Political! People in power are so afraid of mannys popularity with the common people ,and just as Pac was going to help to build up after the tragic typhoon tehy freeze the money telling him he hasnt paid taxes for I belive was 2009-2010 ,but he did so in the US ,and therefor should not be dubbled taxed. Both To Rank and HBO has left information about this to the PH IRS ,but they do not care about that. This is Taking some power away so Pac cant help the ppl with his income. Sad to hear this corruption

Posted November 26, 2013 2:17 pm 


ha

The congroidsman a humble and humanitarian? BS. First, you have to be corrupt to even be in congress in that fourth world stink hole. If he is such a humanitarian why didn’t he cancel his fight to help like Andre Berto with Haiti when that terrible tragedy happened? Why did he say he’ll take care of Rios for a 2010 video but said nothing about the racist remarks of Roach? I call BS.

Posted November 26, 2013 2:17 pm 


Titopa

PEEJ – Oh LOL yeah, even if Pacquiao himself says he’s broke…hecdog will say “he’s just saying that to sound humble”.

Posted November 26, 2013 2:13 pm 


PEEJ

I was being sarcastic because Hecdog loves to post that in his post about Pac

Posted November 26, 2013 1:58 pm 


Titopa

Delk1- Bravo!

Posted November 26, 2013 1:58 pm 


Delk1

They should change this site name to THe OTHERSIDEBOXING. Boy there are really some DUM People posting on this site. Some of you have not common sense. I have some questions for some of you guys. Hopefully this will snap you back into reailty. 1. Why did Manny and Bob said that PAC was afraid of needles? (Yet today we all known that he is not.) NO. 2 Why did Manny say that giving blood makes him weak? (Yet today Manny himself has prove that it doesen’t). NO 3 Why did Manny state that he would only do what the BOXING COMMISSION required for testing, and NOT Mayweathers demands? (Yet today Manny THINKS the Boxing Commission testing is NOT good enough. Making Marquez and RIOS take Blood test, SOMETHING THE BOXING COMMISSION DO NOT REQUIRE. NOW all of a sudden the Boxing commissionl test is NOT good enough, NOW that MANNY suspects Marquez and Rios of cheating. Maybe RIOS and Marquez should have did what PAC did and turn down the fight. Would all of you clowns would have said that MANNY was scared to fight RIOS. Would you have said that MANNY IS scare to fight Marquez? HEY PAC I THOUGHT THE BOXING COMMISSION TESTING WAS GOOD ENOUGH. YOU GUYS ON THIS SITE discuse me. Mayweather is NOT a perfect human being, BUT who is? He is an Olympic Medalist. HE represented this country, the good ole USA. And this is how you guys repay him. He gives MILLIONS to the HUNGRY and employ 100s of people, that probably wouldn’t be working right now. He generates BILLIONS in Las Vegas. Yet how do we here on this so called BOXING forum repay him. WHat do PAC do for the USA. He is a congressman for another country. HE STANDS AND FIGHT for another country. He lives in another country. He dedicated his last fight to HIS PEOPLE, NOT YOURS. I thinks its time for some of you guys on this site to grow up. THE FIGHT WILL NOT HAPPEN BECAUSE ARUM WILL TRY AND RUN THE NEGOIATIONS. IF PAC REALLY wants to fight he would do what Cotto did. LEAVE for one fight. Make the fight. THen return. BUT I TRULY BELIEVE PAC really don’t want to fight. IF HE DID HE WOULD LEAVE. It’s just that simple.

Posted November 26, 2013 1:52 pm 


Titopa

Correction: His accounts have been frozen…he did NOT ask them to be, the IRS did so.

Posted November 26, 2013 1:51 pm 


Titopa

PEEJ – It’s on ESPN, apparently he ONLY has 1.1 millions pesos…which translates to FAR less American dollars. He had to borrow one million dollars help typhoon victims? “borrow”? Yes. He’s broke. Go look it up for yourself.

Posted November 26, 2013 1:50 pm 


PEEJ

Titopia this can’t be true, has to be all lies, he is a great person and humanitarian.

Posted November 26, 2013 1:47 pm 


Chicago guy

Mayweather/ Pacquiao will not happen because Mayweather is still busy for his cherry picking rampage an easy fight that he can surely win.

Posted November 26, 2013 1:46 pm 


Titopa

Rumors are true…Manny Pacquiao is BROKE! a few days ago I posted a link to an article that suggests the Filipino icon is “broke”, well, just the other day he asked his accounts to be frozen as he’s being charged with 50 mill for unpaid taxes. Wow!

Posted November 26, 2013 1:45 pm 


BeReal

mayweather had some trouble with cotto who bareley beat mayorga if we are now to compare what does that say?
This is the only fight thats interesting ,and it sells itself……everybody wants to see either may or Pac period

Posted November 26, 2013 1:36 pm 


spazo

The most entertaining fight would be between Floyd and Provodnikov. I believe Floyd would jump at the chance because Provo is quite a bit smaller and not nearly as skilled or quick. But, Provo does have a great chin and a great heart and would keep coming at Floyd and throwing shots until the final bell. If this fight were made I see Floyd winning a very entertaining fight and the fans finally getting their money’s worth.

Posted November 26, 2013 1:20 pm 


PEEJ

The problem is that Pac needs a knock out or needs to stop his opponents almost always otherwise there will always be an question marks on his wins. Mayweather, on the other hand, does not need to KO his opponents all the time because his skills show clearly that he is the superior boxer in the ring. No question about whether or not he can win on points. Just an example, Pac obviously lost to Bradley because he could not display the clear cut decision victory on points like Mayweather. Pac by KO.

Posted November 26, 2013 1:18 pm 


Tachyon

Delusional Pac would get beaten easily for the fight to even be considered Pac needs to fight someone better than Rios. I say Broner or Canelo I don’t see Bradley as that big of a draw.

Posted November 26, 2013 1:13 pm 


PEEJ

Floyd has only one weakness which is against southpaws. He has trouble adapting with the shoulder roll. Pac has an easy time with boxers so Floyd won’t cause too many problems.

Posted November 26, 2013 1:09 pm 


REM

Floyd didn’t slip against Zab he came in sloppy and confused and got caught in a bad position flawed fighter against southpaws. A bum athletic southpaw like Zab won 4 straight rounds a atg/goat like Pac would dominate. Seen how ugly Floyd had to fight Zab to win no chance against Pac.

Posted November 26, 2013 1:05 pm 


Tachyon

All moot points Floyd came to Pac wanted the fight agreed to 50/50 split location, right size etc. Pac refused because he did not want to take a random test. Floyd tried again Pac said I will take random test but you have to tell me the dates in advance well that’s not random. At this point May does not need Pac or care about Pac. Pac needs May if you fans want to complain send letters to Pac ask him why he made up so many excuses.

Posted November 26, 2013 12:55 pm 


PEEJ

Yeah winning 4 rounds against Floyd is considered a success. lol

Posted November 26, 2013 12:52 pm 


PEEJ

Floyd has no flaws against south paws. All this came up when Floyd Sr said he didn’t want his son fighting south paws because the shoulder roll doesn’t work since Floyd fights in a right handed stance. But has Floyd proved he adapts and he has also perfected the shoulder roll, but against south paws he fights with both hands up like a conventional stance as well as the shoulder roll. Floyd would toy with Pac. Pac has trouble with all boxers. That is why he lost to Morales, why he had some much trouble with Marquez, losing against Bradley and ducking Guzman. These where all fighters that are boxers or boxed him or would have boxed him.

Posted November 26, 2013 12:51 pm 


Tomato Can

I’m sure Pac would do well against Mayweather, that is, if one thinks winning 4 rounds at most is good…

Posted November 26, 2013 12:50 pm 


Tachyon

REM lol Floyd slipped only time Zab hurt floyed was with a low blow. As for dropped JMM knocked Pac out cold. Don’t compare a fight with rios to a fight with floyd Rios is slow hell REM you would look fast against Rios.

Posted November 26, 2013 12:47 pm 


Mikey

but sadly, this fight will never happen. Floyd will just price himself out of the bout. works for him before why change. he’ll settle for less riskier bout and give all boxing fans a boring, lack luster perfornance. he’ll be laughing his azz off on his way to the bank. he will always be remembered as the unbeaten fighter who ducked Manny and cherry picked most of his opponents. so sad

Posted November 26, 2013 12:45 pm 


REM

Punch tour delusional what athlete has Floyd fought like Pac no one. Floyd looks like that against lesser athletes using speed and manuevering ability over those guys none of whom are in Pacs class. Pac won’t have any trouble blasting Floyd due to Floyds flaws against southpaws. You have fell for the gimmick that is Floyd don’t worry your not alone. Zab the best athlete Floyd fought dominated the 1st 4 and dropped Floyd. Next best athlete Mosley froze Floyd and rocked him twice and Cotto the next best caused more damage thsn anyone. All fighters well below Pacs level. Now you know why the fight hasn’t happened.

Posted November 26, 2013 12:44 pm 


Tachyon

I did not know Broner wanted to campaign at 147. In that case Pac vs Broner weould be a great fight and would segway into Pac vs May provided he can beat broner.

Posted November 26, 2013 12:43 pm 


Tomato Can

The 400+ posts on this thread proves people still want Pac/May, and it proves Arum knows it, which is why he’s leading pacs fans around by their noses… Take a look at Arums weak card in China and compare it to next weeks Regular showtime card. Top tank has turned into a one show pony. Pac better make this fight real soon, cause his options are dwindling thanks to Arum…

Posted November 26, 2013 12:42 pm 


Mikey

Pop and slide all day, Floyd won’t be able to handle Manny’s speed and shots coming from all angles. That shoulder role won’t work, Manny will pop him right in the kisser, lol

Posted November 26, 2013 12:41 pm 


Mikey

Stop running Floyd, man up and face Manny!

Posted November 26, 2013 12:38 pm 


Punch

@Auzbox let me put it in layman’s language if you have problems with comprehension. Pacman will be missing all night whilst he’s eating Floyd’s counters. Floyd is light-years ahead of Marquez and Bradley in terms of counter punching and they were able to hit manny almost at will, now take a second and image what Floyd will do since he’s faster and more accurate than both of them. The fight will be a mismatch. Floyd by wide UD or late stoppage if Manny rushes in out of desperation you can take it to the bank. I really want this fight to be made and I just can’t wait.

Posted November 26, 2013 12:24 pm 


GR

Pacmans team

Posted November 26, 2013 11:26 am 


GR

Pacmans worse in the buisness – did not help with the testing debacle, made things worse which i believe could’ve played to his advantage – not only did he smash through the compettiton back then his main rival believed the performances he gave were super human… he had the mind games there ready to play out… and his team were too incompetent… Mayweather has the best team in the business… gotta give credit to him… If broner gets passed Maidana that will be an awesome fight and he will definitley pose pacman some probs… pacman dont like urban fighters… but would love to see broner get slapped a few times…

Posted November 26, 2013 11:26 am 


teepee

arum already put bs in the game when he said pac will fight in april and we all know floyd fight in may and sept. he aLREADY HAVE THE MGM GRAND for those months

Posted November 26, 2013 11:17 am 


SREDMOND

Why would Manny fight Broner at 140 when Broner is gonna fight Maidana at 147? Again this won’t happen because Broners not a TR fighter that said PAC Man would have a better chance against Broner than Mayweather… He’s stronger and much more experienced at the World level than Adrian…

Posted November 26, 2013 11:16 am 


Tachyon

Pac would stand to make more money in a Broner fight not sure if Broner wants to move up to 147 Pac might have to go down in weight. Wold be a better fight for Pac although Roach probably get into fight with Broners team before the main event starts.

Posted November 26, 2013 11:16 am 


Fighting Bettas

Mayweather is an illusion, fraud who doesnt want to be tested against the best opposition. He is a coward who hides behind his nuthugging, devoted fans, who are the laughingstock and provides life to any party. Funny sh1t.

Posted November 26, 2013 10:56 am 


obbieman

Whatever you say in this blog, whichever boxer you love or hate, when Pacquiao Mayweather does happen, Y’ALL GONNA WATCH IT.

Posted November 26, 2013 10:54 am 


obbieman

Broner more meaningful than Bradley and Alexander who I both consider as Mayweather “light”.

Posted November 26, 2013 10:50 am 


obbieman

Broner vs Pacquiao. Adrian has foot and hand speed, good defense, knockout power, is undefeated, has something to prove and is the same size as Pac. Manny didn’t even try making welter and still came in at 145. That means he could still easily make 140 to fight Broner. Manny is deadlier at that weight as the opponents are more his size and his punches will have more meaning, unlike welter where his opponents are too big to ko. If Manny can get past Broner, he has a very legitimate case for Mayweather.

Posted November 26, 2013 10:48 am 


GR

Why does all the Floyd nuthuggers claim pacman does not deserve this fight… he is still a class fighter and will definitely bring his own revenue to the fight… I’d say both should man up… no extra testing etc… just get it on – 60/40 winner takes the extra 20%.

Posted November 26, 2013 10:43 am 


Whocares

For whatever reason, Mayweather* is afraid of Pac, that is a FACT. He really doesn ‘t have to, but he does. He needs psychotherapy before this fight can happen…

Posted November 26, 2013 10:36 am 


PTS

Although, I must add, Floyd was more than likely waiting for Pac to reach beyond his prime before even thinking about fight him, and he’s still not certain. Think about it, when was the last time Floyd fought an equal, a bad ass, a fighter were the odds were “pick em?” Never!! The last time Floyd fought anyone who fought back who was not past his prime, he got his ass handed to him by Castillo, who we all know was robbed. After that, Floyd played it relatively safe with all his opponents. Not even his most ardent fans can disagree with that. Floyd needs an advantage, whatever it may be even if it’s xylocaine for his brittle hands but, he needs an advantage just so he wins. Wuss!

Posted November 26, 2013 10:30 am 


deepwater

floyd knows the philly shell cant hold up against pac. he doubts himself and wont take the challenge.

Posted November 26, 2013 10:25 am 


PTS

the ball is now in Floydie’s court. He can choose to fight someone who will NEVER be inducted into the HOF such as CON or, he can enhance his legacy fighting Pacquiao who will be a first ballot HOF inductee. It’s up to him but it’s also up to the fans who have given him the privilege to live the life he leads. Anything less than the best is worth boycotting completely. Fans are already weary from the cherry picked opponents floyd has enjoyed fighting over the years. To add insult to injury, he also fights them at catchweight. No one can say Pac doesnt want to fight him……Pac said it with the international community watching so, either Floyd does or doesn’t, but much of his legacy will depend upon it.

Posted November 26, 2013 10:15 am 


Anonymous

will they have the drug test in the desert. LOL.

Posted November 26, 2013 9:57 am 


machismo

PBF will fight Manny now that he lost 2 of last 3 fights. He would never have fought Manny before then, simply because he could not negotiate an advantage to beat him. PBF fights only those he knows he can beat
by waiting till they are past their prime, or weakening them by some ridiculous catch weight before the fight (Think emperor stabbing gladiator then replacing his armor before choosing to fight him in front of the crowd in the Colosseum)

Posted November 26, 2013 9:48 am 


Just a boxing fan

had “it” happened in 2010

Posted November 26, 2013 9:26 am 


Just a boxing fan

If Bob Arum says something about the FMJ and MP fight not happening or maybe happening because….I say: STOP ALL THE BS AND FIGHT!

If FMJ says something about the fight not happening or maybe happening if…., I say: STOP ALL THE BS AND FIGHT!

If MP says something about the fight not happening or maybe happening depending…., I say: STOP ALL THE BS AND FIGHT!

Unless they or anyone connected to both camps definitely say they are going to fight, I say:STOP ALL THE BS AND FIGHT!

STOP ALL THE BS AND FIGHT!!!

Posted November 26, 2013 9:25 am 


Just a boxing fan

All the best and worst comments and analysis means s**t. Both of these fighters are getting old and at this point will not offer the same quality of a fight had these happened in 2010. However, both are still the best in the business and they need to FIGHT!

Stop all the BS and just FIGHT!

Posted November 26, 2013 9:16 am 


Auzbox

You all say how easy floyd will win if its so easy why won’t he fight, cause its not. There is a reason cotto, delahoya, and Moseley all say its a fifty fifty fight and unless you been in with both ill take there word for it

Posted November 26, 2013 8:39 am 


Auzbox

Who next for mayweather hopefully khan it’ll show how weak he is

Posted November 26, 2013 8:35 am 


Liver Shot

Fight not the same, Pacquiao has already been KOed. Floyd would make it look like another sparring session. Rather see Pacquiao vs Garcia and Mayweather retire.

Posted November 26, 2013 8:21 am 


Auzbox

And punch if its that simple then fight its worth the most money for money may. And he says he does what the fans want they all want manny so if its so easy then he will do it not duck it

Posted November 26, 2013 7:15 am 


Auzbox

Delahoya beat him and manny is heaps quicker, counter punch all you want he is not the best ever without a w next to manny

Posted November 26, 2013 7:14 am 


punch

Manny can’t and won’t touch Floyd, it will be a complete mismatch for two reasons , Floyd is the best counter puncher on the planet and wiil catch manny whilst he’s trying to land his punches. Secondly, Floyd isn’t Rios, Marquez, Cotto or Bradley, he doesn’t take punches so I don’t know how Manny is going to land his punches without really pressing the action and actually being reckless and open thus increasing the chance of a Floyd KO win. Manny can’t outthink and outbox Floyd, no one has been able to do that, his only chance is his punching power because his speed will be nuetralized. So, for all those making wild predictions I hope you’re ready to put your money where your mouths are and bet all your possessions if the fight ever get made. LOL

Posted November 26, 2013 7:11 am 


Auzbox

Not arguing he lost but its 2-1 that’s in the record books, no one cares about Marquez, it’s mayweather the world wants

Posted November 26, 2013 7:00 am 


Jack Jones

If I’m beating up a guy in the street and hit him with 20 punches the crwod ooh and ahh. And the guy throws one punch and Ko’s me. I lost the fight period! quit making excuses for Pac. Marquez did wat pac couldn’t do in four tries and thats to end the fight. Know you Pac Fans want a fifth try against a 41 year old man. Lol……..

Posted November 26, 2013 6:51 am 


Jack Jones

That was not a Lucky Punch thrown by Marquez. Im not a Marquez fan but that punch was beautifully excecuted punch period!!! The first knockdown was a beautifully looping hooking. The knockout was a hard fast ball. And the hook was a curve. Its all about timing dummies. Pac got beat period!

Posted November 26, 2013 6:47 am 


Auzbox

And for all you idiots that want khan he has lost two of his last four

Posted November 26, 2013 6:10 am 


Auzbox

That might work accept he not as quick Moseley and cotto said that gotta take there word I suppose tark

Posted November 26, 2013 6:03 am 


TARK

The more I think about it the more I realise this will be EASY for Floyd. Jab, left hook, right hand… Pac has no answer if I’m honest.

Posted November 26, 2013 6:00 am 


Auzbox

Funny they call Marquez old he nearly beat Bradley says how good Bradley is

Posted November 26, 2013 5:38 am 


Old Coot

@ zera: All great points… But I disagree that Marquez fights like an old man… He has not lost a single step… He simply is not a pursuit fighter and can’t hit anyone who has the defensive skill, to throw off his counter timing and get out… Manny has it and was dominating Marquez because he did just that… However in Manny’s zeal to end the so-called controversy, and placate the doubters saying he’d robbed Marque in the past, by settling the score end the controversy with a KO, Manny, instead of simply letting his clear domination win him a UD for the first time with Marquez, Freddy and Manny kept blindly going for the KO, and thus had a momentary lapse of focus and got caught with a half-timed, half lucky KO shot himself… That said, I think that if there was a fifth, Manny would fight more like Bradley this time and win that UD proving he can simply out fight Marquez, once and for all.

Posted November 26, 2013 5:31 am 


Auzbox

Floyd will sign his own fate if he fights a hopeless bloke like khan be no need to bag him, he’s done it himself

Posted November 26, 2013 5:24 am 


Zuks

Old Coot: You make me laugh…….kwakwakwakwa

Posted November 26, 2013 5:16 am 


Old Coot

@ Two Piece: REVISIONED POSTING-
As I said earlier, how many times do I have to explain to all you “experts”, that Marquez is just like Floyd?… Both are counter-punchers who wait for opponents to come to them, and picks them apart. That is what Marquez did to Pacman. But as Bradley proved, that’s ONLY because Manny wants to give the fans a show, and like Marquez, Manny doesn’t mind taking 2 or 3 shots to give one good shot. Which as we saw quite carelessly because that go Manny KO’d.

Now Against Floyd… Marquez was moving to WW for the first time and was unaccustomed to his ten pounds of new muscle weight, which he’d had only about 3 months to try to adjust to but couldn’t, so when he face Floyd, Marquez was as slow as cold molasses, just like ole slicky, Floyd planned it when he demanded that Marquez gain weight. Then Floyd himself, had to pay Marquez hundreds of thousands in fines, because he broke his own contract agreement…

Again, Floyd, is a counter puncher too, but who UNLIKE Marquez, HATES getting hit, and who cares more about keeping his overrated zero and getting paid, but who couldn’t care less about pleasing the fans. So when Juan fought Floyd, and fans began to boo because Floyd would not come forward and engage, Marquez, who had never heard boos fighting anyone but then, who also doesn’t mind getting hit, and who like Manny, WANTS to give the fans a show, tried in vain to plod after Floyd, but as I said earlier, and as Bradley also proved Marquez’ legs are like stone, so he has no idea what to do with anyone who avoids entering his wheelhouse… JUST LIKE FLOYD AVOIDED DOING!! So while Bradley used cautious agility to avoid Marquez’ counters, Floyd simply used his reach and foot-speed, to keep his distance and simply pot-shot a shut-out, never once giving Marquez a chance to counter him, like Manny always does.

Now, when Manny fights Marquez, Marquez has fully adjusted to WW… And Manny doesn’t try to avoid most punches, like Floyd and Tim did against Marquez… In fact with all his awesome skill, if Manny CHOSE to fight defensively like Floyd or Bradley, then Marquez could not touch Manny. That is why I want a fifth fight… By the same token and to repeat, Marquez doesn’t try to avoid shots either… Just like Manny, he is willing to take 3 to give 1.

Now of course some, like you Prince, love to believe that “If Marquez can counter Manny, Floyd will kill him” Yeah, but only if Floyd had Marquez heart and chin, and warrior spirit… No Floyd WON’T counter Manny like Marquez… Rather the fight will be like in how Oscar and Cotto used jabs and had the pursuit ability to drive Floyd to the ropes, only MUCH worse, because Manny’s hands and feet are much faster than either Oscar or Cotto, and Manny hits harder with both hands… Now, Like Marquez, Floyd will counter Manny alot, but he won’t be able to keep his distance and pot-shot Manny to a UD as he did Marquez, because Manny will use head and upper body movement to punch Floyd to the parts he has trouble guarding as well, meaning his torso, then Manny will turn Floyd, and hit his rib cage, then square up and attack to where his power will drive Floyd into defense mode on the ropes. mainly like Cotto did… And since Floyd doesn’t really hit hard enough to gain Manny’s respect and keep him at bay. So I say, Manny beats Floyd WAY easier than people think… Because Manny won’t just stand there plodding with baby steps, like Marquez, Guerrero or Alvarez were forced to do, because of their lead feet, NOO… Manny will simply run Floyd down and punish him like Cotto ONLY WORSE, with SO many hard Punches to every part of his body that Floyds great defense, (shoulder roll and all) will be a moot point. Bottom line I say he beats Floyd up enough to get a Ref TKO or a UD!

Posted November 26, 2013 5:10 am 


zera

Old coot, we won’t find out unless they fight… don’t get me wrong here, but i’m a fan of both, but i still see the edge going to FMJ, skill wise and defensive wise… yes yes, we will not count out MP, but i always see FMJ leaning and avoiding punches… and yes with pot shots along the way,

and you wanting a 5th fight with Marquez…. i don’t like the idea, why? first Manny always don’t look good fighting Marquez, yes he is winning the fight until he got knocked out, but you see, Fighting Marquez will not satisfy all the critics 1. If he beats Marquez evryone will say he beat an OLD MAN 2. He beated a A WASHED UP/ SHOP WORN MARQUEZ, 3. He had Beaten a MARQUEZ COMING OFF A LOSS, no upside there…

Posted November 26, 2013 4:56 am 


DIRK

OLD COOT my friend, youre right, but we wont tell until pac and floyd fight, i also think floyd cant be passive the whole fight, he has to keep manny off him so he knows he will be hit and he doesnt want to test that, if floyd wont throw enough punches he’ll lose by ud, so he will be forced to punch and take punches in the process,

Posted November 26, 2013 4:47 am 


Auzbox

There poms dirk they want a pom to have a shot none are worthy of pac or mayweather khan whipped by Garcia

Posted November 26, 2013 4:46 am 


Auzbox

Two piece if we are arguing decisions and your a real fight fan delahoya decision same as the Marquez fight and the draw one judge judged it wrong

Posted November 26, 2013 4:45 am 


Auzbox

Peej is English explains a whole lot, doesn’t matter how manny beat Marquez they wins

Posted November 26, 2013 4:43 am 


DIRK

kudos to TARK, at least ur making sense now, as ive said floyd has the upperhand in the fight..we agree on something, its not walk in the park..unlike the worshipper peej and boxtradamus and the prince, they all say pac is a mismatch and then they want floyd to face khan, ahhahaha

Posted November 26, 2013 4:39 am 


Old Coot

@ Two Piece: How many times do I have to explain to all these “experts” that Marquez is just like Floyd?… Both are counter-punchers who wait for opponents to come to them, and picks them apart… That is what Marquez did to Pacman… But Bradley proved, that’s ONLY because Manny wants to give the fans a show, and like Marquez, (and as we saw carelessly because he got KO’d) Manny doesn’t mind taking 2 or 3 shots to give one good shot…

Now Against Floyd… Marquez was moving to WW for the first time and thus was new to his ten pounds of muscle weight, which he’d had only about 3 months to try to adjust to but couldn’t, so he was as slow as cold molasses, just like the way slick Floyd planned it, when he demanded that Marquez gain weight. Then Floyd himself, had to pay Marquez hundreds of thousands in fines, because he broke his own contract agreement…

Again, Floyd, is a counter puncher too, but who UNLIKE Marquez, HATES getting hit, and who cares more about his overrated zero and getting paid, and couldn’t care less about pleasing the fans. Whereas when he fought Floyd, and fans began to boo how Floyd would not come forward, Marquez, who had never heard boos fighting anyone but Floyd, who doesn’t mind getting hit, and who WANTS to give the fans a show, tried in vain to go after Floyd, but as I said earlier, as Bradley also proved Marquez’ legs are like stone and he has no idea what to do with anyone who avoids entering his wheelhouse… JUST LIKE FLOYD DID TOO!! So while bradly used cautious agility to avoid Marquez’ counters, Floyd simply used his reach and foot-speed, to keep his distance and thus pot-shot a shut out, never once giving Marquez a chance to counter him like Manny always does.

Now, when Manny fights Marquez, Manny doesn’t try to avoid punches, like Floyd and Tim did against Marquez… In fact with all his awesome skill if Manny CHOSE to fight defensively like Floyd or Bradley, then Marquez could not touch Manny. That is why I want a fifth fight… By the same token Marquez doesn’t try to avoid shots either… Just like Manny, he is willing to take 3 to give 1.

Now of course some like you Prince, love to believe that “If Marquez can counter Manny, Floyd will kill him” Yeah, but only if Floyd had Marquez heart and chin, and warrior spirit… No Floyd WON’T counter Manny like Marquez… Rather the fight will be like what Oscar and Cotto, only MUCH worse, because Manny’s hands and feet are much faster than Cotto, and Manny hits harder with both hands… Now Like Marquez, Floyd will counter Manny, but he won’t be able to keep his distance and pot-shot Manny to a UD as he did Marquez, because Manny will turn Floyd, and hit his rib cage, then drive Floyd into defense mode on the ropes like Cotto… And since Floyd doesn’t really hit hard enough to gain Manny’s respect and keep him at bay… Bottom line… Manny will beat Floyd WAY easier than people think… He will not stand there plodding with baby steps, like Marquez, Guerrero or Alvarez, NOO… Floyd will simply run Floyd down like Cotto ONLY WORSE!! Then when he gets to Floyd, he’ll throw SO many hard Punches to every part of his body till Floyds great defense, (shoulder roll and all) will be a moot point. Bottom line I say he beats Floyd up enough to get a Ref TKO or a UD!

Posted November 26, 2013 4:34 am 


TARK

You know what??? You can’t go by that… Pacquiao vs Floyd is it’s own fight with it’s own stylistic interplay… Pac’s right hook and attacking ability is going to be a huge problem — just based on the fact that Judah floored Floyd with a right hook and caught him numerous times in the first 3 rounds. Zab’s speed and southpaw stance took a while for Floyd to solve.

OK, once Floyd started attacking behind a jab, left hook, right hand combination he turned the fight around.. It’s not going to be that simple with Pacquiao. I say Floyd wins but it’s no walk in the park.

Posted November 26, 2013 4:17 am 


EZ E

“Khan is more popular than Pac”??? ahhh…. He is?? Really?? Are you sure?? Sorry, with all due respects PEEJ, but no, maybe ONLY in England but nowhere else on this planet. Peace!

Posted November 26, 2013 4:10 am 


Two Piece

Old Coot – Manny needed 4fights with Marquez a draw, win, gift decision and got ktfo, Floyd came back from a two year lay off and put on a 12 – 0 clinic including a knockdown. So whats your point about Cotto giving Floyd fits when he too got beat by UD ( lucky if he won more than two rounds)

Posted November 26, 2013 3:44 am 


Old Coot

Peej? Why am I a “racist”? Oh… EYE see, because I used the term “white-collar”… Man you’re ignorant… They need to re-capture you and return you to your straight jacket in the ward at the crazy house… ASAP!!

Posted November 26, 2013 3:11 am 


Auzbox

Spot on old coot floyd just scared we see it

Posted November 26, 2013 3:03 am 


Old Coot

Cotto is about 2/3 as fast as Manny and he gave Floyd fits… Just look at the punch stats… Floyd actually got tired by round 7 where he only landed 9 measly punches, and and barely landed more than 16 until round 12! And yet dreamers like ole Peej, Te Tumbo and Boxtradamus, actually thinks he can handle MANNY The ONSLAUGHTER?

Posted November 26, 2013 2:58 am 


Old Coot

Yeah……….. RIGHT!!! Manny has RICH Fans all over the GLOBE!!… Khan has about 200 white collar criminal fans in the US and the UK who should all be rotting in a dungeon! LOL!!

Posted November 26, 2013 2:52 am 


Old Coot

AuzBox: Yup… Me too! Oscar was on ole Voyd’s ASS!! And Oscar not gotten winded by about round 7, and stopped jabbing as much, it would have been a wipeout!! LOL!!

Posted November 26, 2013 2:50 am 


Auzbox

And while your a scorer peej I had delahoya beat duckweather by 2 rounds

Posted November 26, 2013 2:46 am 


Old Coot

Peej: Why do you insist on misspelling your screen-name?.. It should be PEED, shouldn’t it?

Posted November 26, 2013 2:46 am 


Auzbox

Garcia whipped khan why not fight him peej

Posted November 26, 2013 2:46 am 


Old Coot

Peej: Flip your Bradley VS Pac scores around, and you got it right… Officially!

Posted November 26, 2013 2:44 am 


Auzbox

Peej that’s why no one cares of your opinion you don’t know anything of boxing

Posted November 26, 2013 2:43 am 


Old Coot

Yep… Khan is more popular than Pac… But only to poor souls who broke out of an insane Asylum… Like Peej.

Posted November 26, 2013 2:42 am 


Auzbox

Manny beat Bradley experts say that he will do it again

Posted November 26, 2013 2:37 am 


EZ E

ahhh… “yeah” Boxtra, that’s why #1 Floyd is considering fighting Khan, huh, because Amir brings “more” to the table than Pac, “right”?? hahahahaha!!! Thanks, I needed a laugh! hahahaha!! LOLOLOL!!!

Posted November 26, 2013 2:31 am 


Old Coot

Peej: Go to Youtube and search- “BAD ASS, Old man beats young guy on the bus”. I’d be the old man and you’d be the young punk!

Posted November 26, 2013 2:29 am 


Old Coot

I meant, it won’t let me post more than one sentence again.

Posted November 26, 2013 2:27 am 


Old Coot

Maynever, ALWAYS pisses his Huggies at the mere mention of a Pacman beatdown!

Posted November 26, 2013 2:26 am 


Old Coot

I guess Peej sabotaged this thing, cuz it let me post more than one sentence again.

Posted November 26, 2013 2:25 am 


henry 5

Pacman would had beat dumpweather 6 years ago and he will do it now, queston is , is the bum ready for the loss.

Posted November 26, 2013 2:22 am 


Auzbox

And boxeranus experts say manny beat Bradley and I take it your no expert

Posted November 26, 2013 2:12 am 


auzbox

think peej kostya knocked out zab under 2 rounds easy day didn’t even train hard for that fight. Auzzies go alright

Posted November 26, 2013 2:08 am 


auzbox

think peej kostya knocked out zab under 2 rounds easy day didn’t even train hard for that fight. Auzzies go alright and boxeranus experts say that many beat Bradley and take it your not one

Posted November 26, 2013 2:06 am 


Auzbox

Experts say manny beat Bradley and I take it peej and boxeranus your arnt experts

Posted November 26, 2013 2:04 am 


Auzbox

Boxeranus and peej experts say manny beat Bradley and I take it your not experts merely just annoying people on here

Posted November 26, 2013 2:03 am 


BEARS

boxtradamous- floyd beat bradley son did u see the fight? who did u pick to win that one? pac didnt you? who was ranked higher p4p. didnt u pick bradley to beat provodnikov ? that didnt hPpen either. rios over alvarad in number 2? sorry som that didnt happen either. it was so frustrating your melon split in two Nd u created alter ego “correctemundo”

Posted November 26, 2013 1:53 am 


auzbox

servinte shane Moseley said that canello and pacmans speed was quicker than Floyd so I think ill take his word over your sorry champ

Posted November 26, 2013 1:47 am 


Serviviente

I hope it happens so that I could bet my house on Floyd. There is no way Pacman beats him and this is coming from a guy who disliked Money up until the last 4 years. I’m pretty certain Floyd will KO PAC…..he is bigger, more skillful, smarter, than PAC. Both have about the same speed. I can just see PAC jumping into Floyd’s right hand, ala Marquez.

Posted November 26, 2013 1:43 am 


auzbox

peej if you were in Australia nothing would give me more pleasure, as I said whats your name if your the big ggloves champ you say you are

Posted November 26, 2013 1:41 am 


MMendoza

Bradley got the nod twice — first with Pac and then with Provodnikov. The fight that really matters is Mayweather vs. Pacquiao — nobody would even need advertising trying to convince people to buy — it would sell practically by itself. Lots of fans like both Mayweather and Pacquiao and have bought PPVs with either of them on the card. That’s why the fight would sell like no other — it would break ALL of the sales records ever set before.

Posted November 26, 2013 1:40 am 


auzbox

peej pc tough guy I said the other day whats your name I wanna google you and see if you really won g gloves 4 times still waiting mummy basement boy

Posted November 26, 2013 1:31 am 


Sheriff Joe’s chicken

Before anyone comes on here and telling me Broner is not a real welter…guess what? his last fight was at welterweight and he won. Maybe not an exciting bout but he jumped 2 weight classes and won. Broner by now has settle in to his new weight. PACQUIOA vs BRONER

Posted November 26, 2013 1:29 am 


Old Coot

Peej’s pussy hurts now… Like Floyd’s does all the time!

Posted November 26, 2013 1:28 am 


Old Coot

Peej: Shut up ass!… Don’t dish it if you can’t take it PUNK!

Posted November 26, 2013 1:27 am 


Sheriff Joe’s chicken

When is Manny Pacquioa going to face real welter weights again? Rios was a lightweight. He should think about facing Adrien Broner next. Im just saying if he cant fight the real Mayweather at least he can fight a crappy replica.

Posted November 26, 2013 1:26 am 


Old Coot

Just Watch… Floyd’s gonna skip Bradley and Pacman to wait for Paulie Malignaggi, because he doesn’t hit hard.

Posted November 26, 2013 1:25 am 


Tomato Can

It’s not that serious, neither one of these clowns pays our bills.

Posted November 26, 2013 1:21 am 


Old Coot

Peej: At the Pac VS Money fight… But Maynever will never do it! LOL!!

Posted November 26, 2013 1:19 am 


Auzbox

Peej go make your mum tea, your a muppet. How’s the basement? You just sit on here and act tough all day, best fight for floyd is the great pacman hands down

Posted November 26, 2013 1:17 am 


Boxtradamus

Defeating #0 P4P NON CHAMP Rios does not register on the #1 P4P Fighters radar. Bradley has the #3 P4P rating and WBO WW World title to bring to the table. Pacquiao brings the Intercontinental title to the table. HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHAHBAHAHAAA!!!

Posted November 26, 2013 1:16 am 


Public Enemy

The REAL Tark- can you show me what I need to do to stretch my rear hole? Any pointers? Ive thought about it several times but up until you came on this board and opened up to us, I was afraid. Now I know Im not alone. Please help

Posted November 26, 2013 1:08 am 


Public Enemy

The REAL Tark- can you show me what I need to do to stretch my anus? Any pointers? Ive thought about it several times but up until you came on this board and opened up to us, I was afraid. Now I know Im not alone. Please help

Posted November 26, 2013 1:06 am 


Public Enemy

The REAL Tark- can you show me what I need to do to stretch my anus? Any pointers? Ive thought about it several times but up until you came on this board and opened up to us, I was afraid. Now I know Im not alone. Please help…

Posted November 26, 2013 1:06 am 


Boxtradamus

Boxtradamus SAID that SKILLS is the most important factor in Boxing!!!!!

Boxtradamus SAID that SKILLS is the most important factor in Boxing!!!!!

Boxtradamus SAID that SKILLS is the most important factor in Boxing!!!!!

Boxtradamus SAID that SKILLS is the most important factor in Boxing!!!!!

Boxtradamus SAID that SKILLS is the most important factor in Boxing!!!!!

Boxtradamus SAID that SKILLS is the most important factor in Boxing!!!!!

Boxtradamus SAID that SKILLS is the most important factor in Boxing!!!!!

Boxtradamus SAID that SKILLS is the most important factor in Boxing!!!!!

And that’s why Pacquiao stands a LESSER chance than Bradley vs Mayweather. The EXPERTS agree with ME that Bradley is more SKILLED than Pacquiao.

We want to see the BEST face the BEST!!! Two guys that just banked WINS over Top 10 P4P opponents!!

Posted November 26, 2013 1:06 am 


Old Coot

Peej is delusional, and a hypocrite, trying to protect floydee-bird from losing his overrated zero in an epic Pacman beat-down for the ages.

Posted November 26, 2013 1:03 am 


SAM

IDIOT FMJ FANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted November 26, 2013 1:03 am 


SAM

BLAH…BLAH..BLAH..BLAH – FMJ and his IDOT fans
LET’S FIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! – PACMAN

Posted November 26, 2013 1:02 am 


Old Coot

Pac haters can live in their bubble of denial, all they like, but if Floyd retires without beating Pac… THEN watch all the insiders and historians, “but”, his legacy to DEATH for a century!… As in- “BUT”… He never faced Pacquiao… So his overrated ZERO loss record deserves an asterisk of scrutiny… And a HUGE ? mark… PERIOD!”

Posted November 26, 2013 12:51 am 


TARK

Mayweather has already had a good rest since the Canelo fight… He’s had lots of fun and games… Time to get serious and talk about the fight everyone has been talking about for many years.

Is Floyd willing to go to China or Singapore??? They’ve never seen anything like him over thare… But wherever the best bid come in, just make the fight… If this fight doesn’t happen now it will never happen … and that’s the dumbest thing yet.

This is East meets West.

Posted November 26, 2013 12:49 am 


Old Coot

After Cotto’s, better than good, hand and foot-speed and agility surprised and scared Floyd a bit, you see what he did, don’tcha? Went back to slow footed and lead legged Guerrero and Alvarez… BOTH good fighters who prove great against opponents who stand and slug, and don’t move around like Floyd or Manny do, and who BECAUSE of their slow mobility, simply couldn’t get to Floyd enough to hit him like Manny certainly would. Even if Floyd counters him a lot.

And NO… Floyd hates getting hit too much to be willing to take Manny’s power punches in bunches, to wait for a chance to KO him like Marquez does! And trust me, Floyd knows one other thing… That if Cotto could get to, hit and bloody him, then Pacquiao’s much superior foot and hand-speed, and agility, will likely beat him down!

Posted November 26, 2013 12:48 am 


Adrian

Ok here it is I see paqiao calling mayweather out but I don’t hear any response from mayweather , yet i still read comments like ” bob arum is preventing the fight” !!!!

Newsflash !!!! Paqiao just declared he is ready to fight mayweather now let’s hear mayweather respond to that first forget about bob arum now if mayweather is ready for the fight then he should declare the terms in public and that’s all !!!!

Posted November 26, 2013 12:43 am 


TARK

May-Pac is the inevitable fight whose time has come.. Floyd knows it.. He was probably thankful that Pacquiao made such a solid showing vs Rios and that the fight can be made at last.

Why not in Macau or Singapore??? Or Beijing??? Put it in the Olympic Stadium in Beijing… That should break all gate records… Why doesn’t one of these Chinese Billionaires who brought the Olympics to China come in with a monster bid for the fight and gain worldwide publicity???

A couple of these guys have to be thinking about it.

Posted November 26, 2013 12:38 am 


EZ E

He prefers to be known/called/introduced as Floyd “MONEY” Mayweather, right?? And.. he talks about giving the fans the fights THEY want, right?? THERE’S NO DENYING THAT THE FIGHT MOST ALL FANS WANT TO SEE IS FLOYD vs MANNY, AND ONLY A FOOL SAY DIFFERENT, RIGHT??

And… it seems obvious that he wants the biggest MONEY fights out there, right?? THE BIGGEST MONEY MAKING FIGHT FOR “MONEY” MAY IS VERSUS PAQUIAO, RIGHT?? ONLY A FOOL WOULD REFUTE THAT FACT, TOO. RIGHT??

Ask yourself, has Khan EARNED a fight with Floyd, LOSING 2 of his last 3 against far LESSER quality opposition than Pacquiao’s last 2 losses??
So, if (according to the “greatest” prophet) Manny doesn’t deserve a fight with Mayweather does Khan, who seems to be Floyd’s #1 target??

No, I’m not a Pac hugger, nor saying that Manny whips Floyd. Just a humble boxing guy that tries to keeps it real & not off on some fantasy, nor on a “Mr. Know It All” self-contradicting ego trip.

No, I’m not blaming Floyd for the Pac fight not being made but.. he’s also reiterated he will not fight Manny for diverse reasons. Some say that he wants to “punish” Manny/Arum and not make the fight. By not being open and not trying to at least make it happen he’s “punishing” the fans by denying them their MOST wanted fight, generally speaking.

The MOST Wanted Fight: Floyd vs Manny
The BIGGEST money maker out there: Floyd vs Manny
Floyd vs Khan?? hmmm.. NOT the fight MOST fans really want to see. NOT the biggest $$ maker. NO drama, NO suspense…

Posted November 26, 2013 12:34 am 


srminimo

Boxtra- When has Floyd chosen the toughest challenge or the most deserving in in the past 6-8 years?
When he fought Hatton coming up instead of fighting Williams, Margarito or Cotto? When he fought smoke screen Robert Guerrero? Or when he fought Canelo?
Floyd fights whoever makes the most sense. And no one makes more sense than Pacquiao right about now. He’s coming off a big win but has shown decline in the past couple of fights, certainly not fighting at the pace he fought back 3-4 years ago. And Floyd does not have a ton of big fights that make sense. Khan? Come on man. Even I won’t pay for that one. And I’d pay for seeing Bam Bam take a crack at Kellerman.

Posted November 26, 2013 12:00 am 


Auzbox

Don’t worry about peej he also thinks he is a 4 time golden glove champ so his opinion is just a lie prob secretly loves the great pac

Posted November 25, 2013 11:31 pm 


Informer

I would love to see the fight, but even if it does happen now it will be like Calzaghe, Jones Jr. Too late to see both in their prime. I truly believe if Pac would have fought Floyd immediately after Cotto, he would have handed Floyd his first defeat.

Posted November 25, 2013 11:30 pm 


Auzbox

Bradley was beaten by manny the experts said that

Posted November 25, 2013 11:23 pm 


Hidalgo

Somebody please shove a large square peg up Braggadamuses a$$!

BRAGGADAMUS SAID RIOS WOULD KO PACQUIAO!

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BRAGGADAMUS SAID RIOS WOULD KO PACQUIAO!

BRAGGADAMUS SAID RIOS WOULD KO PACQUIAO!

BRAGGADAMUS SAID RIOS WOULD KO PACQUIAO!

Some fight prophet. LMAO! Now he thinks he has the credibility to explain why Pac shouldn’t be fighting Mayweather. LMAO!

BRAGGADAMUS SAID RIOS WOULD KO PACQUIAO!

BRAGGADAMUS SAID RIOS WOULD KO PACQUIAO!

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

Posted November 25, 2013 11:20 pm 


Hidalgo

“Pacquiao is looking for a hand out. Bradley EARNED his shot at Floyd and Pacquiao has not.”

You’re an idiot.

Posted November 25, 2013 11:14 pm 


Jay rock

Don’t you guys find it odd that they willing to let May call all the shots

Posted November 25, 2013 11:07 pm 


The Snake

PAC is a very humble with a warm, gifted heart. When he says, “…it’s up to him” PAC knew from previous bad experiences that Floyd just played the mouth game to showboat to his followers that he wanted to fight PAC, but the fight just couldn’t be made so he can continue to sell his fights. However, inside team Mayweather, they will NEVER fight PAC.

PAC, no matter how loud you call Floyd, Floyd will keep being a deaf man. Why? Because being a deaf man is better than getting beat up.

Posted November 25, 2013 10:48 pm 


The Snake

PAC has been ready for Floyd over 5 years, but Floyd is not yet ready.

Posted November 25, 2013 10:44 pm 


Old Coot

@ REM: Floyd is only adept at using the shoulder roll against righties… He has never faced a double barreled Blunderbuss like Manny… While Floyd is shoulder rolling Manny right, he will be killing Floyd’s liver and right kidney with his left hand buckshot!

Posted November 25, 2013 10:35 pm 


Old Coot

@ REM: Floyd is only adept at using the shoulder roll against righties… He has never faced a double barrelled Blunderbuss like Manny… While Floyd is shoulder rolling Manny right, he will be killing Floyd’s liver and right kidney with his left hand buckshot!

Posted November 25, 2013 10:31 pm 


REM

Without Floyds shoulder roll Pac can easily outpoint Floyd and his potshoting. Pac has to much speed and agility for Floyd to win without the shoulder roll. Floyd will have moments a couple of jabs, lead rights and counters but Pac will blitz him and penetrate his defense all night. Floyd will have to be careful with Pacs power and have a low output but Pac can stalk Floyd all night with no respect for Floyds power. Easy fight for Pac because of the matchup of styles and Pacs athleticism.

Posted November 25, 2013 10:22 pm 


Old Coot

Bradley’s still gotta prove he can actually beat Pacman… Just like Floyd!!

Posted November 25, 2013 10:19 pm 


WhatsNextExcuse

Boxtra, Pacquiao does not need to go back in weight, he is comfortable at 147, but what Floyd needs to do is to back up his claim that he can beat up Pacquiao because at the end of the day, Floyd and fanboys may talk all they about beating Pacquiao but unless Floyd fight Pacquiao and win… it’s all hot air.

Posted November 25, 2013 10:18 pm 


WhatsNextExcuse

Sherrif, Pacquiao got robbed in the Bradley fight and that was very obvious.Pacquiao does not need to KO an opponent to win a fight. On the Rios fight he boxes Rios for the whole 12 rounds like Floyd over Guerrero and Pacquiao won the fight very convincingly and one can even say Pacquiao put on a boxing clinic against Rios. The (*) is just for those people who are not fair to Pacquiao and give credits where credit is due.

Posted November 25, 2013 10:16 pm 


Boxtradamus

The 3 Judges at the Ringside didn’t know it.

Posted November 25, 2013 10:16 pm 


TARK

Everybody knows Pacquiao beat Bradley… That fight does not have to be refought because it was a clear win for Pacquiao… Everybody knows Mayweather-Pacquiao is a massive fight. Everybody wants to see it.

Mayweather-Bradley is a 12-round sparring session much like Mayweather-Marquez. Nobody cares to see it. They want to see Floyd fight somebody with punching power—Garcia, Matthysse, Pacquiao, even Provodnikov.

Hey Tim… You’re a great little fighter… But a Floyd fight??? … No.

Posted November 25, 2013 10:11 pm 


Sheriff Joe’s chicken

The problem is that Pacquioa needs a knock out or needs to stop his opponents almost always otherwise there will always be an (*) on his wins. Mayweather, on the other hand, does not need to KO his opponents all the time because his skills show clearly that he is the superior boxer in the ring. No question about whether or not he can win on points. Just an example, Pacquioa obviously lost to Bradley because he could not display the clear cut decision victory on points like Mayweather.

Posted November 25, 2013 10:10 pm 


Boxtradamus

Manny should go back to 140 and go after Garcia or Matthysse. …or Providnikov. Lets step the competition UP a little bit before going right after the TOP Boxer in the Sport. Didnt we just SEE what happened to Ortiz, Guerrero, and Canelo when THEY tried that????…Bradley has taken the CORRECT progression towards facing Mayeather. He’s beaten 2 Top 10 P4P opponents in his last 3 Fights. That blows Pacquiao out of the water.

Posted November 25, 2013 10:10 pm 


WhatsNextExcuse

Boxtra, I think Pacquiao is more likely to fight Bradley than Floyd does. Floyd is setting his eyes on Amir Khan on a UK stadium.

Posted November 25, 2013 10:08 pm 


WhatsNextExcuse

Sherriff, I don’t hate Floyd, In fact I like him but I love to hate his character though. I’m only saying Pacquiao can win his fights without knocking out his opponents . Floyd wins his fight on a scorecard why shouldn’t Pac too?

Posted November 25, 2013 10:07 pm 


Boxtradamus

I told YOU that Bradley deserves the Fight more . Thats why Floyd shouldn’t face Manny. Bradley is the BETTER Boxer and the EXPERTS agree with ME on that. Thats why Bradley is #3 P4P while Pacquiao is #7 P4P.

Posted November 25, 2013 10:02 pm 


Sheriff Joe’s chicken

Whatsnext- Are you saying that Pacquioa is MAKING adjustments to box more, LIKE FLOYD? Are you saying he is trying to copy Mayweather’s style of thinking as well? I thought he hated the man? Or do you mean like when Ricky Hatton tried to box Manny, is that what you mean? Fail…. lights out Paquioa

Posted November 25, 2013 10:01 pm 


Old Coot

Manny as more than enough tools to actually accomplish what Judah, Oscar, Mosley, and Cotto had the blue-print for, but didn’t quite have the speed, agility, and in Judah, Oscar and Mosley’s and to a lessor degree Cotto’s case the late round stamina to do. Which is to jab and go to the body more, which is the one thing that Floyd less adept at protecting from punches… Manny will basically do all that, and beat Floyd up to win by Ref TKO or UD!

Posted November 25, 2013 9:59 pm 


WhatsNextExcuse

Boxtra… that just sound more like an excuse.

Posted November 25, 2013 9:58 pm 


Blood and Cuts

I am still waiting for you to give me an answer boxtra, one good reason for floyd not to fight manny, if what you say is true floyd should be on the phone with manny now. We all know why you think he would win. Why won’t he fight him. That is the question.

Posted November 25, 2013 9:57 pm 


Boxtradamus

Pacquiao is looking for a hand out. Bradley EARNED his shot at Floyd and Pacquiao has not. Go beat a Top 10 P4P opponent convincingly….Rematch Bradley and SPANK him and then even I will clamor for the Mayweather – Pacquiao Fight.

Posted November 25, 2013 9:56 pm 


147pounder

******BOXTRADUMMESt********u dont know ssh!!!!t …..about boxing

Posted November 25, 2013 9:55 pm 


te tumbo

” . . . if floyd is so bad i want someone to give me one good reason he should not fight manny?” there isn’t. including random and mutually-applied testing, which is the reason Manny* rejected a $$25 million-$50 million payday. don’t get it twisted. every true fight-fan would like to see this matchup confirmed. the problem is Team Pacquiao* and their entitlement to a playing-field tilted in Pacquiao’s* favor. if Mayweather wasn’t in the driver’s seat in 2010, he’s definitely in the driver’s seat in 2013.

Posted November 25, 2013 9:54 pm 


Boxtradamus

Bradley beating #3 P4P Marquez is more impressive than Pacquiao beating #0 P4P Rios. THATS why.

Posted November 25, 2013 9:50 pm 


WhatsNextExcuse

Boxtra……. not necessarily. Floyd is beatable even on scorecards. Floyd still has to prove he can beat up Pacquiao. If all we say is Floyd can easily beat Pacquiao but never prove it by fighting him then that does not amount to anything. We can talk all we want but we need to back up our claim and so far Floyd has not done so.

Posted November 25, 2013 9:50 pm 


147pounder

pacman won almost every round against bradley …..he got robbed for Gods sake……and ur claiming just because he could not knock bradley out he will lose to floyd??????floyd could not stolp a much smaller marquez or guerrero and nobady complains.

Posted November 25, 2013 9:49 pm 


Blood and Cuts

and if floyd is so bad i want someone to give me one good reason he should not fight manny. other than the 60 million or so he stands to earn.

Posted November 25, 2013 9:48 pm 


Boxtradamus

“Floyd’s opponent for the longest time never dropped any of them in a legitimate fashion. He wins his fight by decisions and point….”-And I THANK you for helping ME to make MY point. WINNING on the scorecards is Floyd’s forte. Anyone that tries to beat Floyd on the scorecards will surely take the LOSS.

Posted November 25, 2013 9:47 pm 


Old Coot

Floyd can keep his distance from most fighters… However, he won’t be able to keep Manny off him. While Floyd will make Manny miss a lot… That don’t matter when the opponent is throwing 70 to 90 punches a round… And while Floyd is countering Manny with 10 or 12 rights and 5 or 6 lefts, it won’t matter, because Manny will be landing with 12 to 15 or more with BOTH fists… Nearly all of them power bombs!… Not to mention I just don’t see Floyd hitting hard enough to hurt Manny, that is not unless it’s a sucker punch like against Ortiz, so Manny will walk through most of Floyd’s best shots or make him miss, then drive his ass to the ropes ala Cotto… Once on the ropes, Floyd always focusing on keeping his face pretty, more than attacking his opponent… So while Floyd is shoulder rolling Manny’s Rights, and cheating with elbow push-offs and constant trying to hug, Manny will be getting in and out with great head movement and angular bombs that will killing Floyd’s liver and right kidney with left bombs!

Posted November 25, 2013 9:46 pm 


Blood and Cuts

Just don’t get why floyd is scared of manny. He has said manny is washed up, or does floyd know something we don’t.

Posted November 25, 2013 9:46 pm 


WhatsNextExcuse

Sheriff, that doesn’t mean Pacquiao can’t win his fight fighting in that manner. Floyd wins his fight by decisions on points in mostly 12 rounder fights. Why can’t Pacquiao do the same? Let’s just say Pacquiao is just following Floyd’s footstep by winning his fights on decisions on a 12 rounder span of time.

Posted November 25, 2013 9:45 pm 


147pounder

**BOXTRAdamus*****im so tired of ppl like you….saying that just because floyd beat marquez he is supose to beat manny… that only proves how lil knowledge u have about boxing…..marquez had to go up 2weight clases…to fight floyd n still floyd was weighing like 20pounds more than marques…n he was not even able to stop him…..put ur paper hero floyd to fight 2weight classes more north and golovkin .martinez or the 168 ward of froch and we wil see how good ur clown is floyd wd get killed by any of those guys ……pacman wd beat floyd anytime anywhere.period

Posted November 25, 2013 9:42 pm 


Boxtradamus

Old Coot learn how to watch the Fights. Cotto did his damage with the jab not power shots thats why he LOST. Jabs are LESSER than power shots and Pacquiao’s jab is even LESSER than Cotto’s. SO he won’t be able to make Floyd’s nose bleed and he won’t be able to land many power shots either. Canelo agrees with ME on that. Bradley deserves the shot not Pacquiao. Defeating Marquez is GREATER than defeating Rios. HYPE goes IN one ear and OUT the other with ME. I pay attention to the FACTS.

Posted November 25, 2013 9:41 pm 


Sheriff Joe’s chicken

Pacquioa’s magic went down the drain when he lost to Marquez. Did everyone see how CAUTIOUS he fought. Roach said Paquioa would put away Rios in 4 rounds and the OLD Paquioa would have done so….but instead it went for the full 12 rounds.

Posted November 25, 2013 9:39 pm 


WhatsNextExcuse

Sheriff, that’s all talk. At the end of the day Floyd still has to prove he can beat up Pacquiao.

Posted November 25, 2013 9:38 pm 


WhatsNextExcuse

Boxtradamus

Sorry Pac. You’re a Top 10 Fighter but IF you can’t drop Bradley you SURE can’t drop Floyd. SO what are you going to DO????? Out Box him???? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAHAAAAA!!!!!
Posted November 25, 2013 9:24 pm

Floyd’s opponent for the longest time never dropped any of them in a legitimate fashion. He wins his fight by decisions and point….

Posted November 25, 2013 9:37 pm 


Blood and Cuts

Sherriff, whats the problem then.

Posted November 25, 2013 9:36 pm 


Sheriff Joe’s chicken

Even if Pacquioa someone was able to get Mayweather out to fight him, Pacquioa would lose easily against Mayweather. Mayweather counterpunches are superior to Marquez and his defense is the best. Pacquioa would look like an amateur in the ring.

Posted November 25, 2013 9:35 pm 


Old Coot

Correction- “then” Hell, Manny will…

Posted November 25, 2013 9:34 pm 


WhatsNextExcuse

Boxtra… that’s easy to do by running around in the ring poking shot at your opponent from a safe distance. Any ordinary boxer in the street can do that. But among the hardest thing to do is go toe to toe with your opponent and give the audience a good entertainment.

Posted November 25, 2013 9:33 pm 


Old Coot

Sorry to open your eyes Boxtranumbnutz… But if the markedly slower Cotto can drive Floyd to the ropes and make him bleed and swell, the HELL, Manny will make his prima-donna ass look like Willie Lump-Lump!!

Posted November 25, 2013 9:32 pm 


Blood and Cuts

My personal problem with what Floyd says is that boxing is about money, yet he refuse to have the fight that would generate the most money.

Posted November 25, 2013 9:31 pm 


WhatsNextExcuse

Pacquiao needs to provoke Floyd in order for the fight to happen. Put up a big Billboard sign in Las Vegas that reads “Floyd, why are you ducking Pacquiao?” and a big picture of Pacquiao in that Uncle Sam outfit that reads… “Pacquiao wants you”

Posted November 25, 2013 9:31 pm 


Boxtradamus

The ability to hit and not GET hit is Boxing SKILLS in its simplest form. Pacquiao couldn’t DO that TOO well vs the BEST Fighter he ever fought in Marquez but Floyd DID. Pacquiao isn’t on the same SKILL level of Floyd and he’s not even CLOSE. Pacquiao is closer to Bradley than he IS to Floyd. The EXPERTS agree with ME on that.

Posted November 25, 2013 9:29 pm 


Boxtradamus

Sorry Pac. You’re a Top 10 Fighter but IF you can’t drop Bradley you SURE can’t drop Floyd. SO what are you going to DO????? Out Box him???? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAHAAAAA!!!!!

Posted November 25, 2013 9:24 pm 


Blood and Cuts

Boxtra what the F are these skills you are talking about. Things like hand speed, reflexes, and foot speed are all part of being a superior athlete. if it was about being skilled in knowledge Freddy Roach would have been world champ. It is mostly about athletic skills.

Posted November 25, 2013 9:24 pm 


Old Coot

Yeah FLOYD!!!… The blood-test reuse is played out… Prove Manny’s the “washed up has-been” you claim he is. Besides, as Manny himself said on ESPN- “If I am a has-been… It should be an easy fight for Floyd!” Good point Manny!!

Posted November 25, 2013 9:20 pm 


Blood and Cuts

wish the fight would happen, i like manny and hate floyd, and really think manny loses, but will live with it just to not have to listen to this any more

Posted November 25, 2013 9:16 pm 


SAM

ENOUGH TALKING TO ALL FLOYD FANS. JUST FIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted November 25, 2013 9:13 pm 


WhatsNextExcuse

Floyd can claim he can beat Pacquiao all he want but at the end of the day, Floyd still has not racked up a win against Pacquiao. Come on Floyd, put theory into practice and prove to us that you can beat Pacquiao. Floyd, stop running away and fight Pacquiao .

Posted November 25, 2013 9:13 pm 


Boxtradamus

Boxing isn’t about WHO the BEST athlete IS. Its about WHO the most SKILLED Boxer IS. That’s why Bernard Hopkins beat Pascal and that’s why Ward beat Sakio Bika. Its also why Marquez knocked Pacquiao OUT. Athleticism is LESSER than Boxing SKILLS in the Sport of Boxing. Or else Lebron James would come from Basketball and SPANK Wladimir Klitschko.

Posted November 25, 2013 9:13 pm 


WhatsNextExcuse

Ultimately, at the end of the day, Floyd is the one who will determine if the fight with Pacquiao happens or not. But seeing how Floyd has ducked Pacquiao so many times already, this will not happen because Floyd would rather hide behind Amir Khan and make him his excuse for not fighting Pacquiao.

Posted November 25, 2013 9:08 pm 


Boxtradamus

Pac couldn’t even put Bradley down whose Defense is MUCH LESSER than Floyd’s. NICE way to try to HYPE it by Roach but his perspective is NON credible. He SAID that Pacquiao would stop Rios before the end of round 4. The Fight went 3 times longer than that. Bradley is the more logical opponent for Floyd at this point. And he’s the more logical opponent for Pacquiao TOO. Beat Bradley and put him down on the canvas and the Mayweather Fight reaches the level that it was 4 YEARS ago….Sorry but beating #0 P4P NON CHAMP in Rios doesn’t DO that for me.

Posted November 25, 2013 9:08 pm 


REM

Even Mosley probably the next best athlete Floyd has faced froze him enough to blast him twice and Mosley was a shell of himself when he fought Floyd.

Posted November 25, 2013 9:07 pm 


REM

Pacs sharp movements are like Iversons ballhandle or Adrian Peterson in the open field he will freeze you and explode on you something like Floyd has never faced before. Floyd is always the superior athlete in his fights with the exception of Zab but we all know about Zabs track record so just imagine Pac a fighter without the weaknesses Zab had. You will not reconize Floyd in a fight with Pac finally seeing him in the ring with an athlete as good as him and a style Floyd has a track record of having his defense penetrated against.

Posted November 25, 2013 8:56 pm 


REM

Prince Floyd gets hit by southpaws he’s won those fights but Pac is way better than those guys. I say it all the time can’t shoulder roll a southpaw so he’s gonna have to beat Pac up he won’t be able to control the tempo against Pac without his signature defense. Pacs offense is to sharp and I like his chances under those circumstances.

Posted November 25, 2013 8:40 pm 


Old Coot

Hmmm… Funny how the defensive ‘GOAT’, feels he needs fake blood-tests to defeat who he called a quote- “Washed up, has-been” that his Floydiacs and Floydiots all insists, can’t hit him anyway… Ya know?! LOL! Floyd so full of doo-doo you gotta hold your nose around him!

Posted November 25, 2013 8:29 pm 


REM

Tamato can Martinez was #3 p4p and lineal mw champ on a level no one at jmw and mw was fighting at. I don’t think Oscar or Cotto ever reached that level in their careers. His athleticism seperates him from both and I’m a big Cotto fan.

Posted November 25, 2013 8:27 pm 


The Prince

Rem – How can you say Marquez isn’t in Pacquiao’s class when he arguably won majority of the fights between the two and gave Pacquiao a brutal KO in their last fight? Not to mention Marquez was nearly 40 years old when the fight happened…

Posted November 25, 2013 8:26 pm 


The Prince

typo – hasn’t seen before.

Posted November 25, 2013 8:23 pm 


The Prince

Rem – Has nothing to do with class.; that’s a styles make fights argument and Floyd has already shown he can handle any style. What can Manny bring that Floyd has seen before?

Posted November 25, 2013 8:23 pm 


REM

Prince Marquez fights Pac well but he’s not in Pacs class. Most felt Pac beat Bradley by a wide margin but Bradley clearly beat Marquez. Marquez can’t beat a Cotto or Oscar or Margo he can’t hang in Pacs league. Pac is a rare athlete like Floyd unlike anyone Floyd has fought.

Posted November 25, 2013 8:21 pm 


Tomato Can

But now that SM is wearing down, he’s getting pummeled in the ring. His style depends on reflexes without them he’s done with nothing to fall back on… He was a late bloomer and really got quite far. He should try and secure a big fight in 2014, then retire..

Posted November 25, 2013 8:17 pm 


Tomato Can

REM, what makes you think that SM was on another level than Cotto or Delahoya? Cause he was naturally bigger? SM’s size and awkwardness could have caused Mayweather problems, but I’m willing to bet both Cotto and Delahoya will be ranked higher than Martinez once all is said and done..

Posted November 25, 2013 8:12 pm 


Stark

Te tumbo – I more than agree that a 100% Martinez would of given Floyd problems. For boxing fans it would of been a fascinating match- up. Martinez was super fast, agile & bigger than Floyd

Posted November 25, 2013 8:09 pm 


REM

Tamato can I agree about Trout and Lara but Martinez at jmw wouldve been big for Floyd especially since he wouldve taken the lions share of the revenue but like I always said Martinez wasn’t Oscar or Cotto he was on another level.

Posted November 25, 2013 8:08 pm 


The Prince

REM – It’s easy to say that now in hindsight, but before Floyd made it look easy there were many fighters that were ranked in Pacquiao’s class. Marquez is easily one name people can mention. Mayweather played with him for 12 rounds making Marquez frustrated and angry. The same Marquez gives Manny a brutal KO lost after a trilogy of wars, because Manny let himself get countered. Mayweather is way better at countering that Marquez.

Posted November 25, 2013 8:07 pm 


lightsoutOhio

Pacman would never fight canelo…too scared . mayweather whooped him

Posted November 25, 2013 8:03 pm 


lightsoutOhio

Pacman is the one that needs Mayweather. With Top Stink match Making…I mean mismatch making and s#itty undercards. Pacman vs Bradley only doing 800k in PPV, pacman vs JMM only doing 1.15mil in PPV. Plus JMM wants a Bradley fight next or he’ll retire. Who can pacman fight next? While the P4P king mayweather does 2.48 mil vs Canelo!!! F#ck top stink and Bob arum.

Posted November 25, 2013 8:02 pm 


REM

Prince none of those guys Floyd fought are in Pacs class Floyd has never faced as talented a fighter as Pac so that carries no weight in how they’d match up. Plesse name someone Floyds fought that can bring what Pac brings .

Posted November 25, 2013 8:00 pm 


Thurmal Underwear

Victor

No Manny, can you please stop lying. We all know Bob Arum is the one who makes the decisions, not you.
Posted November 25, 2013 12:28 pm

^ there it is, no need for 200 + comments.

Posted November 25, 2013 7:59 pm 


The Prince

DIRK – Normally I don’t respond to such post, but I’ll humor you. For starters, I’m not looking for everybody on ESB (or anywhere else) to look at me as some all wise boxing sage who speaks the gospel. You can agree with my opinions or disagree; I’m just a boxing fan typing on a boxing website. Second, I don’t recall ever saying Khan was a better choice than Pacquiao. I think Garcia will likely be Floyd’s next opponent, because he just a achieved a big win, which is Floyd’s method of choosing his next match-ups. He’s also a Golden Boy fighter so the politics of it favor both fighters. Garcia’s father seems to think his son is fighting Floyd next, but we’ll see. Arum is only interested in matching up his fighters against one another and not partnering with anyone. That’s why a Bradley or Pacquiao fight with Mayweather will likely not happen in 2014 or ever. And for someone who’s opinion carries no weight, you seemed to determined to respond to me ‘Floyd Worshiping’ posts.

Posted November 25, 2013 7:55 pm 


Tomato Can

Pacquiao’s fun to watch, he brings excitement, cause he throws punches in bunches, and there’s always a chance he might get countered… I my honest opinion I thin he could win some early rounds against Mayweather, but by the middle of the fight Manny’s offense would become his worst enemy, and Mayweather would counter the heck out of him…

Posted November 25, 2013 7:55 pm 


te tumbo

there isn’t a whirlwind or typhoon Pacquiao’s* size that can toucy the bigger Floyd who would keep them at arm’s distance with his jab and tee-off with everything else before overwhelming them with a speedy, precise, stinging, and stunning two-fisted assault. a 100% Martinez would’ve given Mayweather problems. he’s got the size, power, and speed and he’s also not the type of conventional fighter that Floyd can simply prepare for. however, i consider that to be Floyd’s call. IMO, it’s unreasonable to expect Floyd to seek out bigger fighters in higher weight-classes until he’s finally defeated. his standing-concession of fighting at 147lbs is good-faith action enough on behalf of the sport’s competitiveness.

Posted November 25, 2013 7:49 pm 


deepwater

just make the damn fight for the biggest purse and bragging rights in modern history

Posted November 25, 2013 7:48 pm 


te tumbo

(lol) there appears to be residual virus remaining . . . stay tuned.

Posted November 25, 2013 7:46 pm 


DIRK

the prince, your voice here doesnt have any weight, bacause ESB kniws youre a floyd worshipper, you dont get it do you? roach said depending on the performance of manny he will gauge if he still has it, he never said that manny is on the way out, and we all know how great floyd is, but dont say that mamny has no chance, si who do you want floyd to fight? khan? so khan us more worthy opponent than manny? the thing is people are wondering, if pac is so easy fight, whats bothering floyd? because he knows and see something in pac that bothers him.. so unlike u blind worshipper ill say it to you, the beat fight and the biggest is against pac, so dont gve us the crap that manny has to fight jmm and bradley first before floyd. and what do you want floyd vs khan? so stop worshipping to much you sounds stupid already, the whole world wants to see pac vs floyd stop the bs

Posted November 25, 2013 7:44 pm 


Tomato Can

rem, why would Mayweather choose to fight anyone above 147, unless its a huge fight. I could be wrong, but Mayweather has good fights at 147, against more widely known opposition. Guys like Lara and Trout won’t be getting the call tell you see Mayweather walking around in the 160s and weighing in at 154.

Posted November 25, 2013 7:43 pm 


Tomato Can

B red, you know it, man…

Posted November 25, 2013 7:37 pm 


B Red

Te Tumbo, you might be on to something. Your theory may be correct

Posted November 25, 2013 7:36 pm 


REM

Tamato can he doesn’t need to be concerned since Martinez is a jmw/mw while Floyd is a small ww so he doesn’t have to fight Martinez who when healthy is an A level fighter who’s signifigantly bigger thsn Floyd. I just try to put the jmw that Floyd is in perspective a healthy Martinez is a lot better than ODH, Cotto and Canelo and if people wanna crown Floyd lineal jmw champ oh man there’s some dangerous dudes that enter the picture to challenge hin for that crown.

Posted November 25, 2013 7:36 pm 


The Prince

Before the fight with Rios, Freddie Roach said Pacquiao might be on the way out. But after the fight, suddenly Pacquiao will destroy a slow of feet Mayweather? I know Top Rank is grateful for the many suckers they have to mooch off of. The funny thing is, even if Floyd legs did slow down, it wouldn’t make a difference. People still don’t get that Floyd has mastered practically every style of boxing there is and would simply make an adjustment to Pacquiao’s onslaught. People forget that Floyd faced boxers that tried to overwhelm him with aggression and speed and they all lost, and some even got knocked out. Manny would get knocked out if he fought Floyd Mayweather with aggression, and out-boxed if he tried to do what he did against the slow, stationary, Rios. Pactards don’t know what they’re asking for.

Posted November 25, 2013 7:33 pm 


B Red

When Floyd beats Pac , the haters are gonna say that it was 4 years too late and Pac is washed up and been put to sleep.

Posted November 25, 2013 7:32 pm 


te tumbo

TC, P-U was the insane multiposting psycho-b*tch all along. it’s no coincidence that all of the monikers got purged along with his. i just hope they make it stick this time. the boy’s a serious virus for this website and obviously cares or knows nothing about boxing, e.g., Mikey Garcia v. Garcia or Mathysse at 140lbs? Canelo v. Ward at 168lbs!? (lol) the boy was insanely STUPID.

Posted November 25, 2013 7:29 pm 


Tomato Can

I knew PAC would beat Rios with relative ease and fans would come out of the wood work with claims that Mayweather’s afraid if Pacquiao, cause PAC would beat him… Ha ha….

Posted November 25, 2013 7:28 pm 


te tumbo

Pacquiao’s* career has always been about securing the biggest paydays and Mayweather is that payday. however, the catch-22 is that Floyd’s win would be so complete, so comprehensive, so irrefutable, that it will be the very last mega-payday of Pacquiao’s* career. even Garcia might seem like to much of a threat for Pacquiao* to seriously consider. Broner’s not a serious option either, unless he loses to Maidana, which is unlikely. anyway, we’ll see if Arum is finally ready to cash Pacquiao* out. if not, look for a rematch v. Bradley. even in a loss, Pacquiao* won’t have to worry about being KO.

Posted November 25, 2013 7:25 pm 


Tomato Can

Ahh they booted the insane multi poster??? Cool!!

Posted November 25, 2013 7:21 pm 


Tomato Can

Peej, come on man, those are all credible as well as honorable excuses…

Posted November 25, 2013 7:20 pm 


te tumbo

nice around here now that P-U has been booted along with his multiple race-baiting monikers . . . back to Boxing.

Posted November 25, 2013 7:18 pm 


REM

In fact while Pac has matched Floyd in revenue in Floyds homeland Pac leaves Floyd in the dust world wide. Global boxing icon Pac is fact is Floyds local lmao.

Posted November 25, 2013 7:18 pm 


lightsoutOhio

Mayweather vs Canelo ppv 2.48 mil .

Posted November 25, 2013 7:16 pm 


PEEJ

The facts put your theories away. Pac turned down 40 mil, was scared of needles, says it weakens him, says it brings bad luck, has a cut and can’t fight then fights a month sooner, needs a stadium built. He has obviously gotten over the feat from needles, obviously does not get weak, cut seems to have healed, unfortunately we are now waiting for the stadium to be built. Want more Pac and company excuses?

Posted November 25, 2013 7:13 pm 


lightsoutOhio

Pacman vs bradley was way under 1 mil-… Only 800k PPV . Pacman vs JMM did only 1.15 mil
Jerry’s kids hour

Posted November 25, 2013 7:13 pm 


lightsoutOhio

Pacman vs bradley was way 1 mil PPV. Pacman vs JMM did only 1.15 mil

Jerry’s kids hour.

Posted November 25, 2013 7:11 pm 


PEEJ

Actually Pac has had more PPV fights which proves the point that Floyd sells more. And his PPV fights well the last 2 with Marquez where actually purchased by Marquez fans just like the tickets sold. A bunch of Hispanic fans. He has not done well selling since the Mosley fight.

Posted November 25, 2013 7:09 pm 


Tomato Can

lol@REM yes I’m sure Mayweather is concerned about SM.

Posted November 25, 2013 7:08 pm 


PEEJ

All I know is Canelo said making weight was not an issue and that the weight was not a reason he lost. I’ll take his word for it

Posted November 25, 2013 7:06 pm 


REM

Ohio I hope so I’ve wanted that massacre since Martinez called Floyd out. Martinez career is in danger right now though with the 2 knee surgeries he might be done. Floyd sure hopes so.

Posted November 25, 2013 7:06 pm 


Tomato Can

Deepwater how much did Mayweather come in against Marquez? 146, 147, 148 is yah extra heavy? Rios was what 159 the other night, would that be considered extra heavy too?

Posted November 25, 2013 7:03 pm 


REM

What hit has Pacs brand taken he’s averaged over a mil. ppv buys over his last 5 fight and after Saturday either Pac or Floyd are ahead a few hundred thousand ppv buys both are in the 12mil ppvs sold bracket their neck and neck. So what’s the most Floyd can demand over Pac in a 55/45 split Pac still wouldn’t be recieving his fair share for the following he brings to the table. Yeah Pacs camp said some stupid things but setting a date without negotiating like Floyd did and demanding that the USADA handle the testing so Pac had to hold his training camp in the US knowing the VADA is the better testing organization and Pac trains in his home country much worse. More unreasonable demands that show Floyd ducked Pac at all cost. I love the saying you can have your own opinion but you can’t have your own facts

Posted November 25, 2013 7:02 pm 


Tomato Can

I liked Goggy’s take on Canelo leading up to the Maywaether fight. He said Alvarez wasn’t training anything like Champion. He didn’t fight like one either…

Posted November 25, 2013 7:00 pm 


deepwater

remember when Floyd came in extra heavy for Marquez and paid him off.

Posted November 25, 2013 6:56 pm 


deepwater

money don’t buy class. and it sure as hell doesn’t buy big head Floyd any proper hookers. they all look like rap video rejects fighting over a 10 g bag.

Posted November 25, 2013 6:55 pm 


Sheriff Joe’s chicken

Now that Pacquios stock went down by not KO Rios like Roach said Mayweather would easily outbox him. Mayweather by a wide UD.

Posted November 25, 2013 6:53 pm 


lightsoutOhio

Canelo weight 165 on fight night vs Mayweather.

Posted November 25, 2013 6:50 pm 


Sheriff Joe’s chicken

Ive said it before and i will say it again. Floyd would beat Pacquioa easily BUT not without a scratch. Floyd by UD. make it happen. The Pactards and Floydiots still want to see it happen.

Posted November 25, 2013 6:49 pm 


lightsoutOhio

Looks like Sergio still has 2 more fights before HBO contract up…one will be a warm-up Sergio vs Rubio(oddly a WBC mandatory again or lose his belt?)also sergio needs to knock off rust. Mayweather vs Sergio in early 2015. Lol

Posted November 25, 2013 6:49 pm 


h8er

the fight wont happen.

Posted November 25, 2013 6:47 pm 


Hidalgo

“First off Canelo called out Floyd, and Canelo made 153 his last fight which was just a few months earlier, why was it so hard to make 152? ”

Actually, Canelo weighed in at 153.5 for his fight with Trout so he had to lose 1.5 lbs. more for his fight with Mayweather. It’s much easier to question why it’s difficult for a fighter to make a certain weight than it is to actually do it.

Posted November 25, 2013 6:47 pm 


Tomato Can

I’d watch the fight if it takes place, but it’s too late for it to matter now , PAC would lose, and Mayweather would get little credit for the win. As soon as the fight is over, fans would still be calling Mayweather a fraud and cherry picker, who needs to step up and face bigger but less accomplished opposition… Not one of these fans calling for pac/may would say, Maywather proved himself the better fighter, they’d just have a bucket full of excuses As to why PAC lost… That being said, it would be a good win for Mayweather, though.

Posted November 25, 2013 6:44 pm 


DJ

From what I seen of the Pac/Rios fight I think Floyd will handle pacman and beat him on points. I hate saying that because I love watching pacman fight but he doesn’t have the same speed or power that he had 2 or 3 years ago. He would of beat mayweather if they fought then but not now. If pacman can get back to the level he was then floyd doesn’t stand a chance against him.

Posted November 25, 2013 6:37 pm 


lol

Pacquiao was running and holding all night against loser Rios. I’d rather see Floyd fight someone more talented, Bradley for instance.

Posted November 25, 2013 6:36 pm 


PEEJ

And the geek that is using my name, I said Rios in 10. And I’ve already admitted to being wrong

Posted November 25, 2013 6:33 pm 


PEEJ

Unfortunately Pac and company wants no part of Elite Leverl Floyd

Posted November 25, 2013 6:32 pm 


PEEJ

Dude your going over years of negotiations bro. And in that case Pacs brand had already taken a hit and wasn’t selling like he used too. Floyd was selling more PPVs than him so Floyd deserved a bigger piece of the pie. He didn’t want 60/40 he wanted 50:50. Wasn’t gonna happen. He offered 40 mil and tgey still turned it down. When the bout seemed close to being made Arum said Pac had a cut that wouldn’t be healed in time but then he went and fought Bradley oh and also said a stadium needed to be built. We are still waiting for that stadium to be built because according to Arum the MGM is not big enough. If he really wants the fight to go down in 2014 he better start on that stadium soon

Posted November 25, 2013 6:31 pm 


lightsoutOhio

Top stink is the reason mayweather vs pacman hasn’t happen. Sergio isn’t promoted by Bob arum. Pacman would throw a punch, miss and get counter all night . just like all the other 45 fighters mayweather fought.
Maybe pacman can fight Top level fighter instead of a B class fighter that has no movement no counter punching nothing. Rios got schooled by Abril

Posted November 25, 2013 6:20 pm 


REM

Ohio that deal had been on the table a long time and your right a huge ppv event that Floyd wouldve gotten the lions share of but Floyd never responded to the challenge until recently when he said the fight can’t be made due to his commitment to Showtime. While Floyd was with HBO crickets lol. Floyd wants no part of A level southpaw Pac a small ww forget Martinez an A level southpaw jmw/mw who would humiliate Floyd in a 1 sided massacre. Pac is less risk and more reward.

Posted November 25, 2013 6:10 pm 


Brandon St. Randy

Soft…thats Money!

You root for a cake-eater

Posted November 25, 2013 6:05 pm 


Brandon St. Randy

Hell would freeze over before Floyd fought Martinez.

Posted November 25, 2013 6:04 pm 


lightsoutOhio

Mayweather 45- 0. That’s Money.

Posted November 25, 2013 6:02 pm 


50 Cent

I already told you fools, FLOYD MONEY MAY is scarred to fight Pac. He is not Money in all situations, just when he knows he will not lose.

Posted November 25, 2013 5:59 pm 


lightsoutOhio

“Sergio Martinez Will Fight Mayweather at 150, 80-20 Split, Says DiBella” this was stated one year ago.
Why should mayweather fight pacman and give him a big split ? Than Mayweather vs Sergio : a better fight than pacman- a guy that got put to sleep by JMM….the same fighter Mayweather schooled all 12 rds

I say make Mayweather vs Sergio. Let Money get all the $$ fight @154 w/ 160 belt on the line

Posted November 25, 2013 5:52 pm 


REM

Peej its a negotiation I go high you go low and yes first Pac wanted 24 days and Floyd wanted 14 they couldn’t agree negotiations broke down. Next negotiations Pac trying to make the fight agreed to 14 days Floyd trying to avoid the fight moved the goalpost from what I understand to 7 days y’all say up to the day of the fight so we’ll go from their because it still results in Floyd not willing to compromise. Then when Pac agreed to testing up to the fight on national television Floyd calls him offering Pac 40mil out of a projected 300mil Floyd keeping 160 after the networks get their cut. Unreasonable demands to avoid the fight because of the threat Pac is. Floyd fans have no leg to stand on when it comes to who avoided who and should give it up and accept that Floyd doesn’t really want any part of Pac a fighter with tools Floyd has never faced before so he isn’t sure that he can beat him. Y’all should be pressuring him to fight Pac instead of helping him avoid Pac with the spin you guys put on this topic.

Posted November 25, 2013 5:38 pm 


lightsoutOhio

Peej- Sergio said he would fight mayweather at 154- this was his weight class before moving up because no one would fight him at 154.

Posted November 25, 2013 5:38 pm 


lightsoutOhio

Clearly its Jerry’s Kids hour! Canelo weight 165 on fight night vs Mayweather. Please drink that tall glass of Shut thee F#ck up 147.

Posted November 25, 2013 5:32 pm 


PEEJ

Floyd does the olympic style drug testing, he pays them to do it, no need to do the VADA testing. Also Floyd has always paid for him and his opponent to take the olympic style drug testing.

Posted November 25, 2013 5:31 pm 


PEEJ

First off Canelo called out Floyd, and Canelo made 153 his last fight which was just a few months earlier, why was it so hard to make 152? Martinez can’t make 154 so him going to 154 is not gonna happen. Also Floyd has already stated he is a Welterweight not a Jr Middle. He is a small Welterweight on top of that.

Posted November 25, 2013 5:30 pm 


Jb221

No body said any thing about PAC man when he made cotto fight at a catch weight

Posted November 25, 2013 5:29 pm 


147pounder

sergio wd kill floyd at 154 the chicken of floyd wd make him a catchweight same way he did to canelo …cinnamon kid looked like a zombie if sas obvius those two pound floyd made him loose make him week he did not have the balls to fight him at his own weight how can u fight for a 154 titlle askin ur foe to weight 152 j ust to have advantage ???paquiao is a natural 147 he will enter the ring strong and fast thats the biggest fear of chicken maywheater

Posted November 25, 2013 5:26 pm 


The Prince

Hidalgo – if Arum is now willing to play ball (which he isn’t) then he should let Bradley take the first shot at Mayweather, with the winner to fight Manny Pacquaio, or vice verse–rematach Pacquiao and Bradley with the winner to fight Floyd Mayweather. That would be a very exciting 2014.

Posted November 25, 2013 5:25 pm 


Hidalgo

“who moves better today bradley or floyd?”

There’s a lot more to boxing besides “moving.” Plus, Bradley has never fought Mayweather. There’s a fight that needs to happen. If anyone has earned the opportunity it’s Timothy.

Posted November 25, 2013 5:22 pm 


dtoyS

First. Floyd won’t fight outside Las Vegas. Second. Floyd won’t agree to a VADA random drug test. and Third. Experience seasoned 147 pounds Bradley looked worst than 135 pounds Rios who only had to fights at 140 pounds in other words Manny doesn’t have it anymore, 140 pounds Alvarado Rock and wobble Rios in the second round of there second rematch fight, Manny just looked good with impersonating the judges with his speed, Bradley looked worst against Manny and won.

Posted November 25, 2013 5:19 pm 


The Prince

Only smart people learn from the past, and those people should know that Top Rank is once again using Floyd’s name to build up Pacquiao’s name–that’s it. Arum has no intention of letting the Mayweather fight happen. He only creates fights with this in-house boxers. Anyone still believing the lies or Arum and Roach deserve to be deceived. Manny will fight Cotto next or rematch with Bradley. Forget Mayweather, the fight won’t happen. Pacquiao saying he’s willing to fight Floyd doesn’t many anything. Pacquiao does what he is told and fights whom Arum puts in front of him. But of course, Floyd hating Pactards will choose to ignore these facts and try to claim Floyd is once again ducking Pacquiao.

Posted November 25, 2013 5:18 pm 


Hec Dog

Malachi, yes Marquez did say that, but the point I was making was that Marquez said that Manny was faster and stronger, which IMO would give Mayweather lots of problems. No one he’s fought was as fast or strong as Manny Pacquiao, and that two reasons why Manny will beat Floyd if they ever fight. Speed and power will make you change your entire game plan, which Floyd is used to always having. Not in this fight. Manny will beat him.

Posted November 25, 2013 5:18 pm 


lightsoutOhio

Mayweather vs Sergio is a better fight….mayweather can make All the MONEY and get PPV. Plus pick up another belt in a new divison. Would need to be at a catch-because mayweather will only weight max 147. Sergio already stated 154. Top stink can eat S#it

Posted November 25, 2013 5:13 pm 


Anonymous

Real boxing fans know that from here on out, wac mans fights all tomato can fighters

Posted November 25, 2013 5:00 pm 


PEEJ

He is actually trying to clean up his gym, that is why those people that came up dirty are testing year round now.

Posted November 25, 2013 4:59 pm 


von Pugsly

All the drug talk was just psychological warfare and an attempt by one side (Mayweather/GBP) to out-leverage the other (Top Rank). Anyone who follows the ‘business’ of boxing knows that neither Mayweather nor GBP really give a damn about cleaning up the sport. Mayweather can’t even clean up his own gym. Talk about a red herring. And the sad truth is that both Manny and Mayweather, and more than half of the fighers you see on TV, in all likelihood either are or at one time were juiced in one form or another for a fight.

Posted November 25, 2013 4:56 pm 


SeanieP

fight will never happen should have taken place in 2010.Mayweather knows Pac is all wrong for him, he wants nothing to do with Pacquiao.

Posted November 25, 2013 4:54 pm 


von Pugsly

Biggest obstacle to Mayweather-Pacman is the irresistable force of Mayweather and Schaefer’s egos against the immovable object of Arum’s pride and obstinacy. I don’t think Manny or Floyd are afraid of each other or anything silly like that, but the promotional beef and the bad blood between Floyd and his former promoter will hold this up. The only thing that might make it happen would be if Floyd had no credible opponents at all but still wanted one of his mega-paydays. You could argue that such is the case right now. Who’s next for Mayweather? Khan? Garcia? Neither of those fights will do the numbers Showtime needs to make a profit.

Posted November 25, 2013 4:52 pm 


PEEJ

See Floyd knows he is the best, problem is he wants a level playing field, just like Manny wants, that is the reason why he was doing the random testing after the Marquez fight because they then felt Marquez was on something.

Posted November 25, 2013 4:52 pm 


PEEJ

Actually Pac wanted more than a 14 day cut off when Floyd said he would be fine with a 14 day cut off the negotiations stopped, when they came back Floyd said he had done away with the 14 day cut off and had to be the day off. Pac and company should of agreed to the 14 day cut off when it was on the table at the time. They didn’t. So basically Arum got a taste of his own medicine when Floyd cut the deadline off.

Posted November 25, 2013 4:51 pm 


fast79z

floyds not gonna fight anyone[maybe cotto though] and manny will avenge his loss, floyd will not risk his 0 with manny, hasnt before and wont now, if he thought for a second he could beat him they would have fought long ago, the two best and it wont happen, sucks

Posted November 25, 2013 4:48 pm 


deepwater

floyd will not fight pac,martinez,broner. floyd will fight khan, ortiz 2 , or alexander. so enjoy the rest of floyds fights. the only action we will get is 24/7 when he insults his dad, beats a baby momma, shows off the busted hookers that use him for money. in the ring zzz zzz zzz

Posted November 25, 2013 4:47 pm 


Fighting Bettas

Enough talk litle floyd, have some dignity and fight! You cowardly dung. You are just going to die anyway, instead of your dying a thousand deaths due to your nervous cowardice.

Posted November 25, 2013 4:46 pm 


Anonymous

Maywaether the clown is a coward. His excuses are just an insult to peoples intelligence. We see through you little Floyd if ever you are reading this. Nervous puny b1tch.

Posted November 25, 2013 4:40 pm 


Anonymous

when pacped and mayweather retire in another 10 years,will you lot go back to watching basketball.

Posted November 25, 2013 4:31 pm 


REM

Floyd was willing to have a 14 day cuttoff period for testing but when Pac agreed he changed his position in other words moved the goalpost. Floyd was willing to split the revenue 50/50 then offered a 40mil flat fee even though at the time Pac had sold more domestic ppvs than Floyd moving the goalpost. Come out of the bubble Floyd fans the real world may be harsh but also beautiful, majestic and most importantly REAL lol.

Posted November 25, 2013 4:28 pm 


Anonymous

Manny did so much running/holding against rios, that I thought I was watching a meget asian marathon race, I mean let’s be serious if Pac would’ve went toe to toe like he said he would brandon would had knocked Pac tfo that’s the reason Manny didn’t want to exchange punches with rios, wack mans a fake a fony a snake a secret floyd mayweather fan ….

Posted November 25, 2013 4:27 pm 


malachi

Hecdog`marquez said may would beat pacman youtube (first take) right before pacman/marquez 4 please

Posted November 25, 2013 4:24 pm 


RapidFire

Would rather see Floyd vs Martinez simply cause this won’t happen

Posted November 25, 2013 4:23 pm 


Thurmal Underwear

PEEJ

Floyd has never moved the goal post. Pac and company did not want to take the random drug test. He came up with many excuses, then tried to come up with cut off dates. Then when they said they would finally take it up to the day didn’t Arum come back saying they need to build a stadium? Talk about moving goal posts
Posted November 25, 2013 4:17 pm

^+1

Posted November 25, 2013 4:21 pm 


PEEJ

Floyd has never moved the goal post. Pac and company did not want to take the random drug test. He came up with many excuses, then tried to come up with cut off dates. Then when they said they would finally take it up to the day didn’t Arum come back saying they need to build a stadium? Talk about moving goal posts

Posted November 25, 2013 4:17 pm 


Anonymous

Lol, yeah just like mayweather didn’t have the stones to fight canelo, give up already floyd beats nap man with easy work !!!!

Posted November 25, 2013 4:10 pm 


BEARS

ultimate offense against ultimate defense this fight has to happen. its one of thebest matchups of all time

Posted November 25, 2013 4:07 pm 


REM

Floyd has no chance against Pac no philly shell to crawl into can’t use lateral movement Pac has faster feet no power to make Pac respect Floyds open for counters against southpaws and Pac has a wealth of experience against orthodox boxers Floyd has little against southpaws easy money for Pac.

Posted November 25, 2013 4:03 pm 


Hec Dog

On a 1 fight basis, no one, and I mean no one beats Manny Pacquiao, All of them get in there and are lost. Juan Manuel Marquez was asked who was faster and stronger betwen Manny and Floyd. He said clearly, Manny is faster and stronger. Combine these two assets with the unorthodox fighting style coupled with feints, Mayweather stands no chance and will run all day. Manny Pacquiao is better in all areas. He looked shocked and panicky as Cotto was pounding him. Yes, and old Cotto. Trust me, Floyd Mayweather will do whatever he can to avoid Manny Pacquiao. You’re talking about the only 8 division boxing champion ever. The man that comes back from near death and comes back with a mile. Manny put on the most exciting and brilliant exhibition of boxing ever against Rios. The world is still talking about it. Mayweather is way in over his head, and he cannot fathom a loss to Manny. This fight will be hard to make only because of Floyd. Manny just took the tests, what now Floyd? Step up or step out. Manny has called you out more than once. What other excuses are there? I’m sure he’ll think of one. Manny is the greatest. What a historic come back fight for the ages. Manny will be remembered for greatness.

Posted November 25, 2013 4:02 pm 


BEARS

no i wouldnt blame arum the camp has already saying pacman may be done if he looses to rios. i think arum could look to cash in pac doesnt have that long left you wouldnt think and neither does floyd. I would blame who has always been to blame and who has always moved the goal post when it comes to negotiations. mayweather

Posted November 25, 2013 4:01 pm 


malachi

Bears and my question to you is..do you think arum have anything to do with why this fight isn’t happening?

Posted November 25, 2013 3:57 pm 


urone2

all the terms in which the fight is made or not made should be public knowledge. I would like to know who I should be hurling stones at if it doesn’t come off as it should. Arum sound like he’s ready to cash in on Pacquiao or is it another, we ready to go as soon as this stadium in built.

Posted November 25, 2013 3:56 pm 


malachi

Bears don’t forget that mayweather has excellent stamina and gets better as the fight goes on,pacman will have a hard night of a fully energized mayweather…yezzir!

Posted November 25, 2013 3:54 pm 


moonshineman

Little Floyd will never fight Pacquiao. He doesn’t have the stones…….

Posted November 25, 2013 3:52 pm 


PEEJ

Floyd doesn’t always use the Philly Shell, he also uses the conventional stance by keeping his hands up and he does it more often against left handed fighters. Floyd adjusts.

Posted November 25, 2013 3:48 pm 


malachi

popkins`and joe went after a Roy jones who was never the same after his defeats so that says alot about his legacy too because a prime jones would have made joe look likea sparring partner..yuuup!

Posted November 25, 2013 3:47 pm 


PEEJ

Every person that has a pace of throwing a lot of punches all seem to slow down when facing Floyd.

Posted November 25, 2013 3:46 pm 


BEARS

pac vs may is the ultimate fight. ultimate aggressor vs ultimate deffender in floyd who is use to controlling the gap. i dont think floyd can totally stop pac from closing the gap and getting his shots off and if floyd shells up it could spell disaster. plus floyd will not be use to getting hit like that and it will be interesting to see how it effects the infight action in terms of floyds balance and ability to react. this fight had to happen years ago and had more appeal but it still has to happen although i dont think it will and i blame fraud. I know he can make whatever fight he wants to happen. everyone knows that

Posted November 25, 2013 3:40 pm 


BEARS

!!!!! jmm’s style is nothing like pacs. pacs pure offense and literally fights off his own offense. this fight is ideal/pictureesque………the hunter ultimate relentless offense vs the ultimate deffensive fighter in floyd who’s use to controlling many aspects of the fight. I dont think floyd can control the gap with pac like he has and when they are exchanging floyd will get hit like he never has before and as pac is hunting him down closing the gap he may shell up and that would spell disaster. this fight had to happen 3 years ago and still MUST HAPPEN. but it wont and i blame mayweather. you cant tell me mayweather cant have whatever fight he wants. I DONT BUY THAT!!!!

Posted November 25, 2013 3:35 pm 


BEARS

east sides not letting me post. i might have to spend more time on competitor sites. this is garbage east side do something about it. your blocking of posts is ridiculous

Posted November 25, 2013 3:34 pm 


BEARS

** jmm’s style is nothing like pacs. pacs pure offense and literally fights off his own offense. this fight is ideal/pictureesque………the hunter CKILLA ultimate relentless offense vs the ultimate deffensive fighter in floyd who’s use to controlling many aspects of the fight. I dont think floyd can control the gap with pac like he has and when they are exchanging floyd will get hit like he never has before and as pac is hunting him down closing the gap he may shell up and that would spell disaster. this fight had to happen 3 years ago and still MUST HAPPEN. but it wont and i blame mayweather. you cant tell me mayweather cant have whatever fight he wants. I DONT BUY THAT **

Posted November 25, 2013 3:33 pm 


lightsoutOhio

Mayweather vs Sergio is a better fight….mayweather can make All the MONEY and get PPV. Plus pick up another belt in a new divison. Would need to be at a catch-because mayweather will only weight max 147. Sergio already stated 154. Top stink can eat S#it

Posted November 25, 2013 3:30 pm 


BEARS

jmm’s style is nothing like pacs. pacs pure offense and literally fights off his own offense. this fight is ideal/pictureesque………the hunter killer ultimate relentless offense vs the ultimate deffensive fighter who’s use to controlling many aspects of the fight. I dont think floyd can control the gap with pac like he has and when they are exchanging floyd will get hit like he never has before and as pac is hunting him down closing the gap he may shell up and that would spell disaster. this fight had to happen 3 years ago and still MUST HAPPEN. but it wont and i blame mayweather. you cant tell me mayweather cant have whatever fight he wants. I DONT BUY THAT BS

Posted November 25, 2013 3:27 pm 


BEARS

if pac and mayweather fought today my forecast is different than it wouldve been when they should have fought years ago. If i was laying money down on it i would probably take mayweather but i think the styles match up the best and pac has a great chance. because pac is a relentless hunter killer whos pace way beyond that of floyds and that factor will push floyd. pac will come at him non stop and throw non stop. it will not be a dehydrated canelo that doesnt have the stamina to let his hands go because he boiled down too much weight. pac beats may in the workrate and relentlessness department. that could overwhelm may. but may could have success running and controling the gap like he did against canelo and does against most.

Posted November 25, 2013 3:23 pm 


BEARS

if pac and mayweather fought today my forecast is different than it wouldve been when they should have fought years ago. If i was laying money down on it i would probably take mayweather but i think the styles match up the best and pac has a great chance. because pac is a relentless hunter killer whos pace way beyond that of floyds and that factor will push floyd. pac will come at him non stop and throw non stop. it will not be a dehydrated canelo that doesnt have the stamina to let his hands go because he boiled down too much weight. pac beats may in the workrate and relentlessness department. that could overwhelm may. but may could have success running and controling the gap like he did against canelo and does against most. jmm’s style is nothing like pacs. pacs pure offense and literally fights off his own offense. this fight is ideal/pictureesque………the hunter killer ultimate relentless offense vs the ultimate deffensive fighter who’s use to controlling many aspects of the fight. I dont think floyd can control the gap with pac like he has and when they are exchanging floyd will get hit like he never has before and as pac is hunting him down closing the gap he may shell up and that would spell disaster. this fight had to happen 3 years ago and still MUST HAPPEN. but it wont and i blame mayweather. you cant tell me mayweather cant have whatever fight he wants. I DONT BUY THAT BS

Posted November 25, 2013 3:22 pm 


Popkins

TJ … Floyd is one brave man. He waits four years until his greatest rival finally suffers two back to back losses, one being a devestating KO loss, the likes of which from many boxers are never the same again (just ask RJJ)…at the lowest point of Manny’s career….Mayweather finally calls him out!!! Shame he didn’t use his twitter account after Manny was awarded “fighter of the decade” or when he’d just stopped Hatton or Cotto!

Posted November 25, 2013 3:18 pm 


Fight Aficionado

Here we go again. I am rooting for Floyd and Pac to both to get KTFO in their next fights so the camps can’t dangle this carrot in front of long-suffering boxing fans anymore.

Posted November 25, 2013 3:17 pm 


Tomato Can

Hopefully for Manny’s sake Arum will let him get in there with Mayweather sooner rather than later, because as it stands Manny takes damage on nearly every outing. On the same token Mayweather’s career total damage can be measured against what Pac has taken in just one fight alone. As time goes on, even though Mayweather’s the older fighter Manny’s ring age is greater by a wide margin.

Posted November 25, 2013 3:17 pm 


deepwater

make the fight. no excuses.

Posted November 25, 2013 3:15 pm 


Popkins

In 2008-2010 Manny would have probably outpointed Floyd, possibly even stopped him. … In 2014? Pac’s style is bulit on speed and power, like RJJ’s and Tyson’s were, making their primes short and sweet. Manny is in fast decline. Guys like Bhop and Mayweather can keep edging points wins even in their 40’s…not so, for explosive fighters like Roy, Mike and Manny….. That said, I reckon even this version of Paman is capable of causing Mayweather major problems. Pac will definitely be a harder nut to crack than guys like Ortiz, Khan and Guerrero that’s for sure!

Posted November 25, 2013 3:14 pm 


TJ

FLOYD MAYWEATHER HAS used his twitter account to call for a bout with MANNY PACQUIAO on May 5th…. It already has over 96,000 retweets.

He writes…. ‘Give the world what they want to see….”

Posted November 25, 2013 3:14 pm 


TARK

Ignoramuses keep calling Brandon Rios a punching bag. Rios was 31-1-1 with KO victories over significant opponents.

Had Rios defeated Pacquiao, it would not have been as big an upset as Ken Norton Beating Muhammad Ali — Buster Douglas beating Mike Tyson — or Jake LaMotta beating Sugar Ray Robinson.. LaMotta was slow and hittable, much like Rios, but lacked Brandon’s KO power.

LaMotta had an iron chin like Rios. Jake was 30-5-2 prior to scoring the upset over Robinson, who was 40-0 at the time. LaMotta was a light hitter, with only 6 KO’s in his first 37 fights—however he put Robinson down for a 9-count and Ray was saved by the bell. In their next fight LaMotta put Robinson down for another 9-count but lost the decision.

LaMotta had no other significant wins before beating the 40-0 Robinson. Going into his fight with Manny Pacquiao, Rios scored victories over Anthony Peterson 30-0… John Murray 31-1… and Mike Alvarado… 33-0.

Posted November 25, 2013 3:11 pm 


deepwater

floyd stood in front of gingerbread man and used the philly shell against a guy that threw conventional punches a couple at a time. if floyd stood like that pac would throw 4-6 at a time from angles the philly shell cant account for as well as the timing floyd is used to will be off. example. judah was winning for the first 6 rounds against mayweather until he was able to get judahs rhythm down . manny is a southpaw with akward punches and footwork. pac has a good chance. floyd has a good chance. lets see.

Posted November 25, 2013 3:07 pm 


lightsoutOhio

Its funny that some pacman fans think Mayweather would run if they fought…he just stood with Canelo a big 154lber….a boxer pacman will never fight because of his size and power. Mayweather whooped him! Mayweather would use footwork (pacman does this too) , counter punch ( since his the best in the game at this) , and punching angles. Mayweather vs pacman would go just like the mayweather vs JMM. Pacman get whipped all 12 rds by Mayweather. The only way this fight happens if Top Stink gets dropped by pacman. Mayweather gets the fight game- make mega fights and go down in history as one of thee best. Not hiding behind top stink: I don’t like needles, no drug test, or Bob arums outdoor Stadium BS. Bobs trying to steal your money so he can keep buying the high graded weed so him and Chavez Jr can keep smoking. Pacman vs Rios ,Rios got schooled by Abril – a guy no where near pacman level. Anyone that brought the PPV is dumber then Arum saying: “It’s Going To Be Like Hagler-Hearns” SUCKERS. Pacman beating Rios means nothing he’s a b class fighter. Pacman not on Mayweather level!! Mayweather should fight Sergio @154…pay him a flat fee with Mayweather getting all PPV
Pacman might get smart and Drop Top Stink

Posted November 25, 2013 3:00 pm 


Titopa

deepwater – Floyd…by a landslide. Did you see Bradley vs Provodkinov? Did you see Bradley vs Marquez? Yes Bradley won, but do you honestly think Floyd would’ve gotten hit like that? Floyd got tagged ONCE vs Marquez, other than that, he DOMINATED Marquez as if he were an infant.

Posted November 25, 2013 2:59 pm 


Two Piece

Hecdog is mentally ill much like Chicago Guy.

Posted November 25, 2013 2:56 pm 


Fan

Truth be told Pbf wants no part of that ass whupping PAC would lay on him , same reason Lennox left 40 million on the table. This fight won’t happen

Posted November 25, 2013 2:56 pm 


deepwater

floyd vs khan about to be announced. hope your a happy. maybe brittle hands mayweather will get another ko. ask floyd why is fights on in vegas now? because of the injections he gets for his hands

Posted November 25, 2013 2:53 pm 


deepwater

floyd rather fight chinny khan. you bums on here rather see mayweather vs khan? a bunch of clowns with tmt hats and unpaid child support

Posted November 25, 2013 2:51 pm 


BEARS

any highlight reel video u find on youtube shows pac jacking bradley up. u see bradleys punches dont have the effect pax r having. also pac vs rios was 100 times better thAn may vs ortiz and guerrero. may could have fought paul williams but ducked. pacman but ducked, sergio martinez but ducked. although he said he would fight all these fighters. he couldve fought when his devision got red hot, instead he fake retired let them sort it out then he came back. now the appeal of pacman has deteriorated as a ko loss makes him look vulnerable but its still the best fight outthere and best $ potential. now a 3g fight could materialize at 154. as it is today floyd aint even in the goat conversation. imagine if he fought all those guys and never fake retired and fought 3g now. and won every fight listed above and remained undefeated. he would probably be the goat. as it is he fights guys like past it oscar n mosely and gatti. he fights the baldomirs, ortizs, guerreros of the world and in line with this trend he will probably fight kahn. floyd does not even enter the goat conversation. pac accomplished more in his trilogies with atg’s morales and barrera.

Posted November 25, 2013 2:51 pm 


Index info

Floyd *you can stop running now, manny is 6 years older. Time to remove the skirt.

Posted November 25, 2013 2:49 pm 


Tomato Can

LOL, using Bradley as a gage to how you’ll do against Mayweather, is going to give erroneous results. Bradley is pretty good at what he does, but he’s a totally different fighter than Mayweather. No comparison, just ask Marquez, about that one…

Posted November 25, 2013 2:48 pm 


deepwater

the bottom line is floyd should accept the challenge ,try and win and make the biggest purse out there. why all the excuses?

Posted November 25, 2013 2:46 pm 


Tomato Can

I would love to see a Maywather/Pacquiao fight. I know what my pick would be without hesitation. But the best thing about the fight would be the excuses after the fight. Bear’s would be crying about how Mayweather purposely waited until Manny no longer had it. Hecdog would be crying about PED’s and the rest of em, would just be plain hear broken, cause they try to make boxers into hero’s rather than just enjoying the sport for it’s entertainment value.

Posted November 25, 2013 2:44 pm 


deepwater

who moves better today bradley or floyd?

Posted November 25, 2013 2:43 pm 


Titopa

BEARS – Yes, I agree Manny “beat” Bradley…but he did NOT “beat Bradley up”, it was actually one of Manny’s worse performances EVER. It was Bradley’s movement and boxing ability, then he fights Marquez and looks good (except for the 3rd), but mainly cause he knows Marquez so well…but then he got put to sleep.

Posted November 25, 2013 2:38 pm 


Hidalgo

Excuse me, my questions regarding Guerrero should have been as a welterweight, not jr. welterweight.

Posted November 25, 2013 2:35 pm 


Hidalgo

If Canelo was a jr. welterweight and he fought Marquez, today, who would you pick to win?

If Canelo was a jr. welterweight and he fought Pacquiao today, who would you pick to win?

If Guerrero was a jr. welterweight and he fought Marquez today, who would you pick to win?

If Guerrero was a jr. welterweight and he fought Pacquiao today, who would you pick to win?

Ask yourself the same questions concerning Ortiz or Khan.

If Bradley were to fight Mayweather, who do you think would win?

If Rios were to fight Mayweather, who do you think would win?

If Provodnikov were to fight Mayweather or Pacquiao, who do you think would win?

All roads lead to a fight between Floyd “Money” Mayweather Jr. and Manny “Pac Man” Pacquiao. They are stil the two best welterweights in the world, bar none, and they have been for a long time.

Posted November 25, 2013 2:34 pm 


“Peek ah Boo” Floyd

I dont want Manny. So I can increase my chance to lose. I dont fight risk fights only proven I’m going to win fights.

Posted November 25, 2013 2:34 pm 


deepwater

toney got tricked out of his shell trying to get a knockout. floyd will put everyone asleep and stay in the shell.

Posted November 25, 2013 2:33 pm 


deepwater

floyd beat oscar when he was done,already doing coke with trannies. floyd beat up gatti after he was shot. floyds best wins were gennero Hernandez and correles. pacs resume way above floyds.

Posted November 25, 2013 2:32 pm 


PEEJ

I know plenty about the Phillyshell, if you knew anything about teaching something to someone they only get better at it. Have you ever heard of the term the teacher has now become the student? Something can be taught to someone and they can perfect it even more. Like Floyd has. Look what Roy Jones did to the philly shell when James Toney tried to use it. But problem is nobody has been able to do that with Floyd.

Posted November 25, 2013 2:31 pm 


BEARS

i seen pac beat up bradley who seems as fast as may

Posted November 25, 2013 2:26 pm 


murderman

Pac can say he is willing to fight floyd all he wants! And i beleive him. But its not up to him. Its up to uncle bob. Will he finally get out the way and let the fight happen? Personally i dont understand why pac just doesnt leave arum. Pac is a big enough star to promote himself like floyd. If u notice when cotto, odh, and jmm briefly left arum fights w may were made! Pac can leave arum and floyd n pac can make the fight themselves. No arum. No gbp. Lets do it!

Posted November 25, 2013 2:23 pm 


Monobrow

Oscar’s was 3-4 in his last seven fights, 2-5 if you count the Sturm robbery. To be fair to him some felt he deserved the nod in the second Mosley fight. The only two fighters he beat were Stevie Forbes and a shot Mayorga who’d had every last ounce of stuffing pounded out of him against Tito Trinidad. And this is one of Floyd’s best wins? A SD too. Bwahaha

Posted November 25, 2013 2:16 pm 


malachi

bob ego surpasses anything mayweather could ever dream of and i believe he knows mayweather can beat pac and a loss would humiliate bob way more than it would manny..yezzir!

Posted November 25, 2013 2:13 pm 


malachi

Titopa’ BINGO my man

Posted November 25, 2013 2:12 pm 


deepwater

as afloyd fan you should be screaming to make the pac fight instead of blaming arum or rios or this or that. make the fight. the entire world wants it

Posted November 25, 2013 2:10 pm 


deepwater

arum knows he will make biggest purse in the history of the sport with pac vs floyd. after that fight it wont matter. arum pac and floyd will have more money then an entire country.

Posted November 25, 2013 2:09 pm 


deepwater

Floyd sr taught Floyd jr the style. its called Philly shell. if you knew anything about the style you would know its pros and cons. you would know the way to crack the Philly shell is with awkward punches in bunches.

Posted November 25, 2013 2:07 pm 


JoeKidd

@Titopa. Leonard gets hit, except when he runs. Pacquiao also gets hit. Pacquiao’s combinations HURT you. Leonard’s titillates. The big difference with the 2 is Leonard is a fox. But this older Pacquiao seems to be smartening up. Hearns would KO Pacquiao but Pacquiao destroys Leonard, Duran and Floyd. Hagler may be too tough

Posted November 25, 2013 2:05 pm 


Monobrow

We all know Floyd doesn’t fight great fighters who are in their prime, but the scary thing is he’s still to this day petrified at the prospect of fighting Manny Pac even though Pac is but a shell of what he once was.

Manny Pac has fought and beaten great fighters like Barrera, Morales, and Marquez (multiple times). His wins over those greats crap on Floyd’s entire smoke and mirrors career. Floyd would never dare fight opponents of that calibre unless they were old and shot, severely weight drained, or having to jump up 2 divisions. That’s just how he operates.

Posted November 25, 2013 2:04 pm 


Titopa

deepwater – You’ve seen Manny beat up on a guys who stands there and are willing to get hit, then you’ve seen him (4x) struggle against a masterful counter-puncher like Marquez…and you honestly think he can beat the most elusive and most accurate counter-puncher of the last 15 years? C’mon!

Posted November 25, 2013 2:01 pm 


Anonymous

Of course Manny looked good against a tomato can punching bag, he was posed to look good idiots that’s why manny/arum chose him.. geez these Filipino monkey brains need to evolve already !!!

Posted November 25, 2013 2:00 pm 


PEEJ

Pac ain’t Leonard. And that was hid dad, Floyd Jr has perfected it.

Posted November 25, 2013 1:59 pm 


Titopa

deepwater – Pacquiao isn’t the “boxer” Leonard is and Floyd Jr. is 40x better than his old man….that’s a STUPID comparison.

Posted November 25, 2013 1:59 pm 


PEEJ

Nope sure don’t but I if I had the money I would get one. I have seen all of Floyds fights. Been watching boxing since I was about 13 years old. I am 33. I know plenty and have read a lot about the history and have watched many old fights.

Posted November 25, 2013 1:59 pm 


JoeKidd

@deepwater. I do not watch Floyd’s fights. If he enters the 100M dash, I might be persuaded.

Posted November 25, 2013 1:58 pm 


Titopa

Tomato Can – Exactly. He will NOT outbox Floyd and he will NOT recklessly attack Floyd…his ONLY chance is to throw a lot of punches in hopes to outwork Floyd, otherwise, he will be kept at center ring in which Floyd’s superb defense will allow him to land clean right hands…ALL…NIGHT…LONG!!

Posted November 25, 2013 1:58 pm 


deepwater

watch leonard vs mayweather sr and look how to beat up on the philly shell. watch and learn

Posted November 25, 2013 1:58 pm 


deepwater

you must of only been watching floyd since he calls himself money and hits woman. i remember when floyd was pretty boy and moved al ot different. I m not a huge pacman fan but I do know pac has the style to beat the philly shell and i would like to see floyd in a fight. you got a tmt hat dont you?

Posted November 25, 2013 1:56 pm 


Tomato Can

Even if Pacquiao fought Mayweather, the only chance he would have at winning would be by slim UD, by out working Mayweather. At best, Manny would win in a boring UD. At worst, Manny would get out pointed and possibly tko’d by the late rounds. And every day that passes, is a day that Mayweather gains a bigger advantage based on his better skill set alone.

Posted November 25, 2013 1:55 pm 


Titopa

deepwater – Cause Arum won’t settle for anything less than 50-50, he’s NOT willing to share ANY $$ with Floyd…that’s why, if Pacquiao was signed with ANY OTHER promoter this fight would’ve been made YEARS ago, that’s why Arum will ONLY fight other Top Rank fighters….he “keeps it all in the family”. Wake up!!

Posted November 25, 2013 1:54 pm 


PEEJ

You obviously haven’t been watching Floyds fights, fine cause we can all see you are a Pac fan. That is all good. But Floyd moves around the ring just fine. All this came because of 1 fight with Cotto, now all of a sudden he can’t move. He looked to move fine before and after that fight. Oh and so you are negotiating for Arum now. Well maybe you can make the fight but I bet he won’t go for no 70/ 30 split.

Posted November 25, 2013 1:54 pm 


deepwater

joe kidd so tired of hearing whiners and excuse makers like you. who would you rather see floyd fight next if not pac?

Posted November 25, 2013 1:53 pm 


Titopa

deepwater – Floyd is SUPERIOR to Bradley and Marquez…put it this way, people would LAUGH at Floyd for fighting Bradley, because the fight would be ONE-SIDED, Floyd is the #1 P4P fighter in the sport….he just made a young, big, hungry guy (Canelo) look like an ameatur….he’s just too smart for Pac, if Marquez proved to be too smart….then Floyd would look like a SCHOLAR.

Posted November 25, 2013 1:53 pm 


deepwater

floyd might win against pac but no one is sure. why wont you encourage floyd to take 70-30 and beat up pac? why aren’t you advocating for the fight and just making excuses that the fight shouldn’t happen? why do you want to see floyd v ortiz 2 or khan? why. answer the questions

Posted November 25, 2013 1:52 pm 


Tomato Can

There’s no reason for Mayweather to be afraid of Pacquio other than being afraid Manny will dampen his future financial success.

Posted November 25, 2013 1:52 pm 


JoeKidd

Sooooo tired hearing about this fight. Ain’t there other fighters out there that WANTS to fight? Why keep bringing up guys like Marquez & Floyd that DO NOT want to fight? Accept it and move on. Maybe Broner would batter Maidana and WANTS to fight the best! Even if the Floyd fight is made, can you imagine the soap opera leading up to the fight and the judging and theatrics in the fight itself? The whole thing would be a spectacle and NOT for the boxing!

Posted November 25, 2013 1:50 pm 


deepwater

so you think floyd has astyle similar to marquez and bradley? wow. again. floyd cant move like bradley. and he doesnt have the bradley chin. marquez was getting whooped by pacman and pac jumped in and got caught. something floyd would never do. floyd uses the philly shell. do you even know what that is? come on try a little bit. learn something

Posted November 25, 2013 1:50 pm 


Tomato Can

Here we go again. Arum and Pac will call out Mayweather’s name and say it’s up to Mayweather, then they’ll sign a fight against another Top Rank fighter.

Posted November 25, 2013 1:49 pm 


deepwater

manny and arum would be happy with 70-30

Posted November 25, 2013 1:48 pm 


Titopa

deepwater – Floyd isn’t the least bit scared of Manny…he saw what Marquez did to Pacquiao and he (along with all educated boxing fans) sees this as a fairly easy win…he’s not A LOT better than Marquez, he’s bigger, faster, stronger and a lot smarter….Pacquiao will get SCHOOLED. Anyone with any true boxing knowledge knows that Floyd’s style is ALL WRONG for Pac, if Bradley and Marquez can make Pac look bad, Floyd will make him look SILLY.

Posted November 25, 2013 1:47 pm 


deepwater

arum knows he cant get 50-50 now. he will take 70-30 as long as pac gets asian rights. what will be your excuse then? if i was a big floyd fan I would be on twitter or whatever saying make the fight! easy money!

Posted November 25, 2013 1:47 pm 


Anonymous

Manny nap man stop using Floyds name to help u sale ppv …

Posted November 25, 2013 1:47 pm 


rod

Manny fought a great fight but he does not want to go near floyd because he knows he will lose. He will pretend he wants a fight but will make sure it will never happen. He is just like David Haye telling everyone he will KO Tyson Fury but really has no intention of getting in the ring. All crap, the fans miss out. It’s killing the sport.

Posted November 25, 2013 1:46 pm 


deepwater

manny said he will take the tests just like he did for this fight. pac would of got-the ko if Rios threw more the 6o punches and opened up. he was just a punching bag.

Posted November 25, 2013 1:46 pm 


Titopa

deepwater – You’re also forgetting something…Manny has a boss (Arum) and Floyd does NOT…Why did Floyd make the fight with Canelo so easily when people thought he’d “duck” that fight? I’ll tell you, Arum wasn’t in the way, that’s why, if it was up to Floyd this fight would’ve taken place already…back when Floyd signed to fight Marquez, he offered Marquez 1 million to “step aside” so he can fight Pac, Arum wanted a 50-50 split and Floyd said “no”, so Arum signed a fight with Cotto. Go educate yourself before you act like Floyd’s making excuses…Floyd has the RIGHT to a bigger piece of the pie, his numbers don’t like, he’s the highest paid athlete in the world who signed the richest contract in boxing history…and his PPV numbers are off the charts, Manny better be happy with a 60-40 split in Floyd’s favor.

Posted November 25, 2013 1:45 pm 


deepwater

if Floyd cant move like he used to the Philly shell will come up short against a guy like pac. Floyd hasn’t had a knockout since hatton knocked himself out and Ortiz played kissy games. Floyd can only sit in the pocket and block counter which is fine against a red head Mexican that throws a few orthodox punches at a time. Bradley made it sort of close because he moved a lot more then Floyd is able now. why make excuses why the fight should not happen. why not make the fight ,beat pacman, and enjoy the win? what are you nervous for?

Posted November 25, 2013 1:44 pm 


Two Piece

Roach the dope coach has been predicting KO’s in all Manny’s fights and he hasn’t KO’d anyone since cokehead Hutton. Speed is not an issue if you have a good jab and perfect timing that Floyd posesses.

Posted November 25, 2013 1:42 pm 


rod

manny is scared off needles.

Posted November 25, 2013 1:41 pm 


PEEJ

Well for you deepwater I do know a bit about the history of boxing. One thing I do know if you have no defense Floyd picks you apart, not to mention he man handles pure offensive fighters which Manny is. Lets see Pac actually beat a boxer before saying he can beat the best of all boxers at this current time. He had trouble with Morales, ducked Guzman, had extreme trouble with Marquez and seemed to have had trouble with Bradley since the judges tabbed him as the winner.

Posted November 25, 2013 1:37 pm 


PEEJ

Cause Manny does not want to do the random testing with out a cut off date. He know seems to be OK with it. I wonder why?

Posted November 25, 2013 1:34 pm 


Two Piece

Perhaps if Pac can stop hiding under Arum skirt we might have a fight until then expect more bs from this silly midget & his uncle.

Posted November 25, 2013 1:34 pm 


PEEJ

See how you said once Floyd loses. lol. And on top of that, Manny does not sell like he used too. We will see how his PPV sells go since they where only expecting 750 thousand buys which is not that good. His last fight with Bradley was not a sell out, his last 2 fights with Marquez where carried by Mexican fans. So sorry Pac does not sell like he used too.

Posted November 25, 2013 1:33 pm 


Anonymous

Don’t forget Manny makes all his opponents fight in catch weight, so he could have a big advantage over them…. Manny is a fake champion

Posted November 25, 2013 1:33 pm 


deepwater

who is the ghetto trash that thinks arum is stealing pacs money to buy high end weed? where do these animals come from. someone should put this guy away before he makes a kid and doesn’t pay child support.

Posted November 25, 2013 1:29 pm 


deepwater

if floyd can whoop pacman so easy why wont he sign on the line?

Posted November 25, 2013 1:27 pm 


deepwater

floyds legs are old he cant run or move laterally like he used to. the Philly shell is a boring style but tough to crack. only punches in bunches from awkward angles can counter the Philly shell. guess who is fast and throws those punches? most Floyd fans don’t know the history of boxing and think mickey walker is a scotch.

Posted November 25, 2013 1:26 pm 


PTS

lightsoutOhio – dont leave out the very important fact that Floyd forced Canelo to come down in weight…in other words, a catchweight fight. Floyd DOES NOT fight anyone on even terms, no even when he fought tiny JMM.

Posted November 25, 2013 1:25 pm 


deepwater

floyd vs manny biggest purse out there.ever. no excuses. if floyd was an all time great he would accept the challenge and try to bore us to death again. the only thing is pac is too fast and uses angles that will get into the philly shell style old floyd uses. no excuses. its the biggest purse out there and floyd should make the fight instead of ortiz 2.

Posted November 25, 2013 1:24 pm 


lightsoutOhio

Its funny that some pacman fans think Mayweather would run if they fought…he just stood with Canelo a big 154lber….a boxer pacman will never fight because of his size and power. Mayweather whooped him! Mayweather would use footwork (pacman does this too) , counter punch ( since his the best in the game at this) , and punching angles. Mayweather vs pacman would go just like the mayweather vs JMM. Pacman get whipped all 12 rds by Mayweather. The only way this fight happens if Top Stink gets dropped by pacman. Mayweather gets the fight game- make mega fights and go down in history as one of thee best. Not hiding behind top stink: I don’t like needles, no drug test, or Bob arums outdoor Stadium BS. Bobs trying to steal your money so he can keep buying the high graded weed so him and Chavez Jr can keep smoking. Pacman vs Rios ,Rios got schooled by Abril – a guy no where near pacman level. Anyone that brought the PPV is dumber then Arum saying: “It’s Going To Be Like Hagler-Hearns” SUCKERS. Pacman beating Rios means nothing he’s a b class fighter. Pacman not on Mayweather level!! Mayweather should fight Sergio @154…pay him a flat fee with Mayweather getting all PPV
Pacman might get smart and Drop Top Stink

Posted November 25, 2013 1:22 pm 


PTS

A title means nothing really. Floyd can fight without a title and still make money. In fact, when he fought Cotto….he didn’t have a title….Cotto didnt refuse to fight him because he had none did he? So your logic is twisted buddy. Titles mean nothing to top fighters who are recognized worldwide. However, anyone beginning like Bradley, Thurman, Broner, etc. etc., cannot do without them. Floyd and Pac can both fight at anytime and earn a jackpot. So stop the nonsense.

Posted November 25, 2013 1:20 pm 


Mack

I wish they would stop this. This fight will NEVER happen. Floyd doesn’t do challenges. he is about the money. If he can make 30 million a easy fight why fight Pacman? He is now in control in that he can demand alot more then 50/50. Truth is even if he fancied the promoters and networks stop this from ever happening. Greedy fc))&ers and egos have ruined boxing..

Posted November 25, 2013 1:19 pm 


Anonymous

Calling out boxers don’t mean sh** , if Manny wants to fight Floyd get out of top rank wussy !!

Posted November 25, 2013 1:17 pm 


PTS

As we all know per what Floyd preaches…if it doesnt make money…it doesnt make sense. So guess who he fight. It’s not a hard guess people. Floyd doesnt have to take it but he will add nothing to his legacy fighting opponents everybody and their mother knows he can beat. Everybody wants to fight him but everybody has fought anyone….everybody doesnt’ have a name in the boxing world like DLH, Floyd or Pac. So, that said, Floyd can continue fighting “everybody,” whoever they are or, fight someone who will define his legacy for years to come. So far, he has not done that.

Posted November 25, 2013 1:14 pm 


big moe

Of course its up to floyd. What do you have to bring to the table? No title, two losses. Floyd is the super/regular wba champ, wbc jmw and welterweight champ, 2.2 million buys, yeah…all roads lead to mayweather. But we all know that manny already has an april 12th date against a top rank tomato can.

Posted November 25, 2013 1:13 pm 


deepwater

manny proved he can still sell seats even after 2 losses. once floyd losses no one will pay for his zzz style. sports tars and celebrities are only there for floyd because the casinos give their agents free comps buddy.

Posted November 25, 2013 1:12 pm 


deepwater

yeah man its pts and arum. that’s it. I mean I type fast and don’t correct my spelling mistakes but do you even speak English?

Posted November 25, 2013 1:11 pm 


PTS

Sure smart ass, but everybody ELSE is NOT Pac…and everybody else does NOT bring the money Pac will. Even an ignoramuss like you understands that.

Posted November 25, 2013 1:09 pm 


PEEJ

So Floyd is supposed to fight everybody that calls him out then is what you are saying? If that is the case Manny needs to stand in line because everybody in boxing wants to fight Floyd

Posted November 25, 2013 1:06 pm 


Anonymous

Nap man stop trying to blame floyd, when it’s you/arum that keep ducking mayweather because they know Floyd will definitely beat this hipe job .

Posted November 25, 2013 1:06 pm 


PEEJ

Floyd sold a million with Guerrero per what the Showtime VP said. So unless it comes from Showtime then everything else is hear say. The fight will not happen until he leaves Arum plain and simple and his contract is not up until the end of 2014. And if he really wanted the fight they would of signed for the fight back in 2010 but unfortunately they did not want random testing

Posted November 25, 2013 1:06 pm 


deepwater

whatever you say. except their is one difference. pac is calling out floyd. floyd is making excuses. that is the difference. as supposedly all time p4p great he should have no problem accepting the challenge and adding to his legacy . an all time great would shut pac up and look good doing it. but even as afloyd fan you know floyd is boring win or lose. and also floyd might have a loss or two if he pressed for a knockout and put on exciting fights.

Posted November 25, 2013 1:05 pm 


PTS

Without Pac…..Floyd will NOT make anymore on a single fight than what his contract with Showtime dictates. Therefore, if the fight does not come off…..it can be chalked up to Floyds greed. After all, his fight with Guerrero did not surpass 900K, and the reason his fight with Canelo supposedly sold over 2M buys….which I highly doubt for reasons I’ll state later, was due to Canelo’s fan base. Without a well known Latino fighter, Floyd’s ppv sales are anemic at best. Floyd cannot sell over 1m fighting just anyone else and he of all people know this. Now, it took “weeks” for the sales of Floyd’s fight against Gerrero to be counted and still, the figures were over inflated. Interestingly, the sales for his fight against Canelo took less than a week before they stated is was over 2M. Something is amiss here between the time frames in tabulating sales for each fight. That’s enough to doubt his last fight was anywhere near it was reported to be. Perhaps the reason for that is Showtime does not want to admit losing money already. Just one fight with Pac….who is the other most popular fighter in the world right now, will net Floyd well over 60M. It behooves him to come correct and deal faithfully or he can continue tarnishing his legacy by fighting has beens and also rans.

Posted November 25, 2013 1:01 pm 


Titopa

deepwater – Pacquiao is NO different…facing ONLY guys he can beat, they’re going to steer clear of ANYONE with any elite level boxing ability, unless it’s Marquez, and that’s only cause Pac and Marquez know each other so well that Manny’s chances are much higher than if he were to fight someone like Floyd.

Posted November 25, 2013 12:53 pm 


Tachyon

Khan is in the mix due to EU gate. Pac is an option but Money will have stiff terms due to the issues he ran into trying to make the fight earlier. Arum will also be a issue and money want take any crap from him so Pac is basically stuck. Mayweather is the cash cow but Pac has nothing to attract May to the table. Arum runs the show Pac just runs.

Posted November 25, 2013 12:52 pm 


Titopa

NO….”it’s up to Arum”, which we know he is NOT up to fight Floyd.

Posted November 25, 2013 12:51 pm 


deepwater

elli seckback will be on you for hating jews now. rios another loud mouth mexican that crys. boo hoo rios. at least he got a few million to blow through on ugly cars and jordans

Posted November 25, 2013 12:49 pm 


deepwater

so you rather watch floyd ortiz 2 or floyd vs chinny khan instead of floyd being boring. at least you admit floyd is boring.

Posted November 25, 2013 12:48 pm 


te tumbo

i Hope this matchup happens but it won’t. Team Punkuiao* will most certainly contrive some unacceptable condition that will once again sabotage this matchup. this “showdown” has gone stale. Floyd is #1 P4P and Pacquiao* isn’t even ranked among the top #10. if its ring-glory Pacquiao* wants, he can risk it by agreeing to a 10-90 split along with Harmless, Random, Unconditional, and MUTUALLY-Applied testing by the testing org of Mayweather’s choice. otherwise, Floyd has no obligation to save Pacquiao* from his looming financial troubles.

Posted November 25, 2013 12:47 pm 


Techniques

As long as bob arums Jew ass is still Manny pacquiaos promoter the fight will never happen. And it shouldn’t happen because I know I wouldn’t want to watch the boring lopsided decision

Posted November 25, 2013 12:46 pm 


deepwater

pac has to take a smaller purse but so what make the fight floyd

Posted November 25, 2013 12:42 pm 


deepwater

of course floyd doesnt want to fight pac when he can trick most idiots like you into forking over some $ to watch him fight ortiz2 or khan. an all time great would accept the challenge. an all time excuse maker will just make an excuse.

Posted November 25, 2013 12:41 pm 


Tachyon

Floyd does not care or need Pac. Pac has no leverage, no barging power, and can’t choose anything. Money is in command and Pac is at the back of the bus. 50/50 please Pac luck if he could get 70/30 after that nap he took from JMM.

Posted November 25, 2013 12:36 pm 


Fan

If it’s not 50/50 arum shouldn’t make this fight period. Did I mention period end of story

Posted November 25, 2013 12:30 pm 


Victor

No Manny, can you please stop lying. We all know Bob Arum is the one who makes the decisions, not you.

Posted November 25, 2013 12:28 pm 



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