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Danny “swinger” Garcia

hahah… I knew I was right about you Public Enemy.

Posted December 2, 2013 12:33 am 


Anonymous

CAVEED IN

Posted December 1, 2013 11:57 pm 


Anonymous

B Red-MOST MEX FIGHTERS LIKE GETTING THEIR HEAD CABED IN.

Posted December 1, 2013 11:57 pm 


Danny “swinger” Garcia

Is PUBLIC ENEMY at it again? He cant help himself can he? The talk of the forum is Pacquioa/Mayweather yet he somehow cant resist making insults about mexican fighters. I know he said in the past that he has mexican friends but I doubt that. He is so annoying that if he was my friend I would have punched him in the mouth and taken his girl by now. The talk is about Mayweather/Pacquioa, notice how he NEVER insults Mayweather or Pacquioa or any other type of fighters except mexicans. Makes me think sometimes that he probably lives in a neighborhood full of mexicans and he probably gets teased alot and when he gets home he gets on his computer and on this site to vent out his pathetic frustrations. Am I right?…. Yep nailed it.

Posted December 1, 2013 7:38 pm 


Jimmy Cracked Corn

Pac takes Floyd unless Floyd ducks Pac. Floyd Ducker can loose this one. Manny the one man that Loyd ducks.

Posted December 1, 2013 1:06 pm 


PAUL WALKER DEAD, YET SREDMOND ROAMS

Posted December 1, 2013 12:15 am 


PAUL WALKER YET, YET SREDMOND ROAMS

Posted December 1, 2013 12:14 am 


1 undisputed loss

Vitali is the winner—for anyone who examines the video record objectively.

Posted November 30, 2013 10:34 pm 


PEEJ

The last thing I heard before Lewis retired were his balls slapping my chin.

Posted November 30, 2013 10:22 pm 


TARK

BTW…, I predicted Guerrero would beat Berto… I was never impressed with Berto, so I didn’t need to justify my pick by saying RG fouled Berto.

But I knew from watching the fight that Berto was cheated. It was significant that Guerrero fouled Berto with impunity, and Lou Moret was the referee … and had also refereed the Lewis-Klitschko fight.

That didn’t escape my notice — or Max Kellerman’s.

Posted November 30, 2013 10:13 pm 


TARK

Sredmond says.., ” have 1000% proof that Vitali could NOT finish Lewis”

That’s a LIE… Vitali might have KO’d Lewis in the 7th… Lewis was blowing his wad and not hurting Vitali at all… Lewis had already been hurt. Lewis suffered 2 one-punch KO’s. Rahman was never known for stopping anybody with one punch. He was more noted for getting KO’d with one punch … So you know damned well that if Vitali was given another round he might have ended Lewis right there.

But it doesn’t matter. Vitali was winning on all cards and the cuts that moved the doctor to call it were caused by foul blows. In that case you always go to the scorecards … Since Vitali was winning on ALL SCORECARDS he won the fight.

Posted November 30, 2013 10:05 pm 


TARK

If Lewis rematched Vitali he could have made 40 million… because the first fight sold out the Staples Center on 12 days notice.. Unheard of.. The majority of fans came to see Vitali not Lewis. They cheered Vitali not Lewis. Because they know Lewis was nothing but a cheat and a four flusher.

Sredmond has never answered this. When Robert Guerrero was flagrantly holding and hitting Berto, Max Kellerman shouted, “Shades of Lennox Lewis” Why did Kellerman yell that??? Lewis was a serial fouler…a dirty bird.

Lewis may be the official winner, but God knows who really won. Those cuts were slashed open with foul blows—and when that happens you go to the scorecards… Since Vitali was winning on ALL CARDS, he won the fight.

Can you imagine Lewis worrying about Vitali’s wrath in a rematch? He couldn’t take it after months of saying he would rematch Vitali. Lewis decided to quit rather than face Vitali’s raging, vengeful fists.

Vitali retired the chicken-hearted Lewis and still reigns at 42 … having not suffered a defeat in almost 14 years.

Posted November 30, 2013 9:56 pm 


PEEJ

The last think Lennox heard in his last fight was a check being deposited

Posted November 30, 2013 9:32 pm 


SREDMOND

Bears, I have 1000% proof that Vitali could NOT finish Lewis HE DIDNT!!!! Vitali could not stop Adamek in 2 rounds he sure as hell was not stopping Lewis let’s get real… That weak moment of jeopardy was followed by a cruel third round where Vitali got what was coming to him…

Posted November 30, 2013 9:32 pm 


SREDMOND

The last thing Lewis heard before he retired was Vitali saying “NOOOOOOOOOO” with his eyeball hanging out of his head and his lips swollen like a Herpes victim..Lewis made a TON, he made MORE in 2 fights than Vitali did in most of his career OVER 30 mill for Tyson… Lennox retired in top and left Vitali to try and make beating Chisora and Charr something special… Lewis earned over 20 mill in a bout NEITHER Wlad nor Vitali ever have and NEVER will after that fool paid Wlad 17 mill (biggest payday) to fight Povetkin and Klits gave us ANOTHER stinker… Lennox is the last man too retired Undisputed!! A true achieve meg and banging Vitali on the way out was just another feather in his cap..

Posted November 30, 2013 9:29 pm 


SREDMOND

Bears, Klits arm punches lost him the fight, that was no sweet display of boxing… Vitali was taking heavy fire and it resulted in massive tissue damage..If “Smoking” someone means eating 60 stitches then may I never “smoke” anyone… See Bears you have NO clue what the winner of a fight ends up looking like nor the result… In your mind Vitali beat Lewis and Froch beat Ward…You are happy with both results even though your men BOTH lost… You’re a WEIRD dude you and the senile Old Tark, but we will continue to break you without mercy…

Posted November 30, 2013 9:21 pm 


BEARS

the hard truth. the last thing lennox heard before retirement was boo’s. he got boo’ed by those who cheered him when he entered. he was clean sheeted by a one eyed vitaly literally outlanded every round hurt and reeling around the ring with his mouthpiece dangling was forced into retirement without making a guranteed minimum of 20mil and goin through with his promise of a rematch and literally had his legacy devoured by vitaly. very ugly way to go out. manny told him he had to rematch vitaly. lennox just would not. he knew he would and lostthe first fight. vitaly could have finished lewis in the 2nd round and eased up on him after he was hurt allowing lennox to clinch

Posted November 30, 2013 9:17 pm 


SREDMOND

HAHAHAHA “Lewis and Guerrero had Moret in their pocket” cause Tarks fighters lost… Tark you NEVER claimed this till last year, did you get a secret file from Moret? HAHAHAHAHA!!

Posted November 30, 2013 9:09 pm 


SREDMOND

Bears, Vital needed that fight Lewis earned more than 30 mill against Tyson and a ton against Holy 2x…. Klitschko had made peanuts in comparison at that point and never made the type of cash Lewis did against his HOFER opposition… Klits got his face caved in for CHEAP and never has a Lewis type payday… Lennox already beat him fighting a terrible bout and sloppy his point was proved… Besides isn’t Chisora a good substitute?? HAAHAHAHAHHAAHAHA!!

Posted November 30, 2013 9:07 pm 


PEEJ

The cut was done by a punch and then was made worse by his cut man when he ripped the cut open even more. He lost by legal punches the cut him up. Plsin and simple

Posted November 30, 2013 9:06 pm 


SREDMOND

Tark, I’m simply enjoying the HARD truth as stated on all boxing records Vitali Klits LOST to Lennox Lewis via TKO stoppage due to a beautifully carved Mosaic of Wounds in his face….I am not a Dr, writer or judge this is simply what happened… On your private island you are free to say whatever you want, it just holds no weight in the real world… Lewis TKO Klitschko round 6 :) :) :) :)

Posted November 30, 2013 9:04 pm 


BEARS

peej acts like the cuts were due to some skill or punch accumulation and lewis was better in the fight and could only have donebetter if in shape. he must not have seen the fight what a dummy.

Posted November 30, 2013 8:57 pm 


BEARS

oh yeah schmuckmond. lennox had such an easy night he came through on the rematch and gurantee if at minimum 20 million dollars!!!! NOT!!!!

lennox got forced into retirement to the sound of boo’s….outlanded every round by vitaly and dogwalked in the last round as vitaly drove him from one side of the ring to the next imposing his will with eye. lennox got smoked in the boxgame by a one eyed vitaly!!!!!NASTY

Posted November 30, 2013 8:51 pm 


PEEJ

Lewis won. Get over it. Fight was stopped due to punches from Lewis. He retired because he didn’t have his heart in it any more. If Lewis would off been in shape imagine what he would of done. I am no Lewis fan but it is what it is

Posted November 30, 2013 8:47 pm 


TARK

Keep repeating your BS Sredmond… You know who the fans cheered and who they booed… You KNOW who was winning all all scorecards when the fight was stopped… You KNOW who continues to be Heavyweight Champion and who retired Lewis and took his title.

Lewis chickened out on the rematch.. You know why.. Because he knew he couldn’t pull the same BS in the rematch and Vitali was certain to win.

Posted November 30, 2013 8:24 pm 


SREDMOND

Vitali LOST and its a GREAT JOY to me seeing the RAPE that was wrought upon nutty revisionists like Bears and Tark who have created a narrative that did not exist… This is their way of coping with the discomfort of knowing that a bad version of Lennox Lewis still was able to STOP a prime Vitali Klits in 6 rounds…

Posted November 30, 2013 8:16 pm 


TARK

What was apparent in the first 2 rounds of Lewis-Klitschko—Vitali was the better defender… was physically tougher… had faster fists… had better range… and was taking a strong lead in the fight…

Lewis was desperate not to get 3 rounds behind and he started fouling like crazy… That’s what happened. In the 3rd round LL used a thumb strike to open the first nick on Vitali’s eye. He then forced a clinch and grabbed Vitali around the head with his left arm… While illegally locking Vitali’s head in a headlock with his left arm he viciously slashed Vitali’s face and ripped open the cuts with the palm of his right glove. He worsened the cuts by rubbing his hairy head into them. Later in the fight LL deliberately palmed Vitali in the face in full view of the referee. He had Moret in his hip pocket just like Guerrero did.

Posted November 30, 2013 8:14 pm 


SREDMOND

Pacquiao is NOT seen as a real threat to Floyd anymore absent the die hard Pac Man fan who refuses to see the truth… They discuss Manny like he is gonna KO Mayweather when he is NOT stopping ANYONE…. He has NO SHOT at being the better boxer that night so there is NO path to victory… Floyd has faced BIGGER punchers and once he times the shorter Pac Man its curtains and counters for the Congressman…

Posted November 30, 2013 8:14 pm 


SREDMOND

Michael Buffer after the fight “The Winner and STILL Undisputed HW Champion Lennox Lewis”…. Vitali will NEVER EVER hear those words with his name because he let an OLD Lewis bash his face in….Lewis had MUCH tougher bouts than Vitali who could NOT survive more than 6, Rahman, McCall and even Mercer did more than Vitali who was just a bloody mess by the bouts end… AGAIN we Lewis fans have our, win and Klits head on a PIke…

Posted November 30, 2013 8:11 pm 


SREDMOND

If this video is SOOOO Undisputed then where are the articles about it 11 years later and why did Vitali NOT try and file a formal protest to get the result overturned LMAO!!!!! Vitali has TWO losses and they will ALWAYS stand no matter how many times Tark dreams of a different outcome… We can go to ANY website or document pertaining to the bout and the winner is Lewis via TKO the punch that opened up Vitalis face and thrashed the upside of his legacy was a BEAUTY of a right hand in the 3rd round… Klits is a forgotten man at this point and his 14 months out of the ring have barely been missed, his brother has picked up the slack in regards to boring the US public to death so there has been continuity!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

Posted November 30, 2013 8:08 pm 


Anonymous

once we had legends,now we have HYPE PEDS PRIMA DONNAS.

Posted November 30, 2013 8:01 pm 


TARK

Vitali Klitschko has one undisputable loss—to Chris Byrd… He was winning on all cards but he couldn’t continue because of an injury. He would have easily won a rematch because he was the much greater fighter.

Many, if not most fans believe Vitali beat Lewis… The video record is undisputable that Lewis was guilty of holding and hitting—and striking with the inside of the glove—when Vitali suffered the severe gashes to his face.

The Ward-Kessler fight went to the scorecards because of an accidental foul blow with the head… The Lewis-Klitschko fight should have gone to the scorecards because of deliberate foul blows …

Vitali is the winner—for anyone who examines the video record objectively.

Posted November 30, 2013 7:52 pm 


Facts

Larry Merchant: “I understand you were behind on ALL THREE SCORECARDS at the time of the stoppage…”

Lewis: (Embarrassed, grabs mic to do damage control)

Posted November 30, 2013 7:43 pm 


anthony4

and still the only fight i REALLY want to see…

Posted November 30, 2013 7:42 pm 


Anonymous

Floyd’s* accomplishments mean nothing until he stops avoiding Manny Pacquiao regardless of what he has been paid. The boxing world knows it. The same question will follow Mayweather* to his grave.

Posted November 30, 2013 7:41 pm 


SREDMOND

Tark, Vitali was NOT “clearly beating Lewis” he was up 2 rounds and he was taking the HARDER blows and fading… Lewis 2 best rounds were the 5th and 6th…. Vitali was BUSTED wide open and leaking all over the place meanwhile Tark has a fantasy outcome and score that he probably worked out all by himself while RAILING fellow ingrate Bears from the rear… This piece of history is NOT gonna change, no matter how many times Tark and Bears give eachother reach arounds and tell each other softly that “Vitali really won”….. Did not happen clowns he lost that fight and with it any chance of being taken seriously as an ATG… He deserves the Hall but that CRAP resume will make him a forgotten Man…..

Posted November 30, 2013 7:39 pm 


SREDMOND

Rocky Marciano and Floyd Mayweather do not correlate and when did I say Floyd “is the best ever” he certainly is right up there in my book… Mayweathers ability to come thru the weight classes undefeated is UNPRECEDENTED in boxing history…. Duran did not do it, Leonard, did not do it, Oscar did not, Hearns did not and neither did PacMan who has been knocked out 3x…. Bears if losing is not a big deal then why do you try so hard to expunge the IRONCLAD loss Vitali booked to Lewis from his record? Why not accept that loss and discuss his wins???? Its because losses and wins DO matter!!! Being undefeated at Mayweathers level after 20 plus title fights, across 4 lineal Championships and 5 weight classes is SPECIAL if it was NOT then we could name another 20 guys who did it!!! But we can only name one, Floyd Mayweather Jr…If wins and losses don’t matter then why the WOMANLY weeping of Klit fans and excuses when Wlads TKO’s are discussed??? Reality is that Mayweather is a SPECIAL fighter not facing TRASH no name opponents who accomplished nothing in the sport…..

Posted November 30, 2013 7:33 pm 


SREDMOND

Trying to resurrect the OLD Pacquiao aura of invincibility is a fun yet FUTILE endeavor… We have seen Manny Pacquiao fighting for relevance just ONE short bout ago and the book on him as a fighter has changed…. He is NO longer a finisher, is he still one of the most gifted boxers operating today? Sure he is but I don’t think he is the #3 guy at this point which is still an accomplishment…. We all KNOW that Manny is NOT a fighter who is gonna KO guys at will because he simply has not done it at WW, we know he can be KNOCKED OUT because he was on the BAD end of the KO LOSS of the Year… We know that there is a style that is ruinous for him because we have seen Juan Manuel Marquez employ it with increasing effectiveness even as JMM became a 40 year old fighter….Many are saying that Pacs “Old” well how is he OLDER than Mayweather when FMJs birthday occurred 2 years before FMJ?? I hope this bout somehow happens because this is EASY work for Floyd…. Look at the gap in expectations.. Floyd is expected to fight 154 and 160 pound guys in their primes even though he can’t crack 150 fight night whereas Pac Man is getting over the top praise for beating a guy coming up in weight and coming off a loss… A guy chosen for his POOR defense, SLOW hands and feet and LOW Ring IQ….. A boxer who had to try and sadly sell himself as more than a punching bag to Kellerman postfight meanwhile he did not show much better against Manny…. AGAIN Pacs an ATG but he is several rungs below Floyd at this point… If FMJ was facing Rios types he would stay undefeated for 2000 years,,,

Posted November 30, 2013 7:26 pm 


Anonymous

Keep running from GGG, Fraud Mayweather.

Posted November 30, 2013 7:05 pm 


Avoidance

Tark in the world of bling bling that’s a great accomplishment, but still, Floyd has to back up his claim that he can beat up Pacquiao easily, or vice versa. It’s one thing to claim one can beat the other but he needs to prove it by actually beating up Pacquiao, not on paper but in the ring.

Posted November 30, 2013 5:52 pm 


john

i thought pacped was scared of needles.

Posted November 30, 2013 5:51 pm 


slim prickman

when it comes to peds and HYPE no one can touch the YANKS.

Posted November 30, 2013 5:48 pm 


TARK

Floyd’s accomplishments mean a 250 million dollar contract for 6 fights. No one ever a contract as rich as that … in the history of Boxing.

Posted November 30, 2013 5:26 pm 


Hero Toe Zero

Floyd’s* accomplishments mean nothing until he stops avoiding Manny Pacquiao.

Posted November 30, 2013 4:40 pm 


Hero Toe Zero

Who’s forcing you to watch HW, Anonymous? Probably a pissed off Brit that is mad that Toe Fairy Haye couldn’t beat Wlad “Clenchko.”

Posted November 30, 2013 4:30 pm 


Anonymous

clenchkos perfect for modern hw boxing. big slow and can hold all night.

Posted November 30, 2013 3:57 pm 


TARK

Vitali was clearly beating a desperate Lewis. VK landed an average of 26 punches per round to 17 for Lewis, out-scoring Lewis by 53%. If you beat a team 115 to 75 in the NBA it’s a record blowout.

The scorecards would extrapolate out to an 8-4 in rounds and a 116-112 decision for Vitali over 12 rounds. The losing combatant in boxing is usually credited with a lot more points than he earns—and this is a big reason horrible decisions are epidemic in Boxing…all the 10-9 rounds.

Lewis’s raking of Vitali’s left eye while holding and hitting is clearly evident in the video record. Members of the HBO crew complained about Lewis’s holding and hitting, and the referee Lou Moret’s failure to do anything about it. The HBO crew mentioned it again during the Berto-Guerrero fight,

“SHADES OF LENNOX LEWIS” shouted Max Kellerman, as Lou Moret seemed oblivious to Robert Guerrero’s fouling as he was to Lennox Lewis’s when he refereed his fight with Vitali.

Posted November 30, 2013 3:54 pm 


TARK

It’s curious to hear Klitschko haters slam them for being boring. The K’s hold the records for the 4 highest grossing heavyweight fights in European history. Johannson, Schmeling, Carnera, and Lewis never came close.

The Klitschkos also fought 16 times in America—and sold out MSG twice—and the Staples Center twice. How many American heavyweights hold the record for the 4 highest grossing heavyweight fights in North America? And also drew sold out arenas in Europe? The answer is NONE.

In Wladimir’s most boring fight—he floored Alexander Povetkin 4 times. Povetkin had never before been floored as an amateur or professional.

In Ali’s most boring fight he shared the Nobel Peace Prize with Alfredo Evangelista. They were highly praised by the Nobel selection committee for promoting non-violence in Boxing.

Posted November 30, 2013 3:52 pm 


BEARS

two fireworks fighters tonight on one card!!!! kovalev and adonis!!!! probably two brutal stoppage wins!!! then kovalev will call out adonis and hopkins and say he will smoke them !!!!!!

Posted November 30, 2013 2:41 pm 


BEARS

popkins- good quality posting dude…..good stuff on pac and mayweather….insightful

Posted November 30, 2013 2:39 pm 


BEARS

guerrer has been turning every fight offered him down* thats what i meant to type below

Posted November 30, 2013 2:34 pm 


BEARS

rios vs guerrero would be kinda cool hidalgo good idea. i think guerrero is one ofthe worst fighters if not the worst floyd tried to sell as ppv worthy. the guy has now been turning every fight goldon boy has offered him and hasnt been in the ring since he fought mayweather. guerrero= maybe the most over rated fighter i have seen. dude is garbage x 10

Posted November 30, 2013 2:33 pm 


Popkins

Canelo’s best win was a fairly close points verdict over Austin Trout. Prior to that? Matthew Hatton, Ryan Rhodes and a washed up Mosley who just lost to Anthony Mundine.

Posted November 30, 2013 2:30 pm 


BEARS

if simply having no losses made u the best like sredmond seems to think it does for mayweather than rocky marciano would be considered the greatest heavyweight with that line if reasoning.
see, its a fallacious line of reasoning. having a loss doesnt mean your not the best. having no losses doesnt mean your the best. it just doesnt work that way its not a metric and some undefeated fighters its totally worthless because they have literally fought only cab drivers and pizza delivery guys like wilder has. floyd fake retired when his division lit up the fiercest. he never faced paul williams, pacman, sergio martinez though he said he would. he has ducked, dodged, cherry picked, and fake retired his way to 45-0. This can only serve to detract from mayweather both now and regarding his legacy the damage is done. imagine if he had done as he should and fought and beat those guys instead of poor quality fights like old oscar and mosely and washed up gatti or the baldomirs, ortiz’s, and guerreros of the world. imagine he fought who he should have already beat them and was now lining up garcia and 3g and beat them!! there wod be NO DEBATE. we would have to concede floyd is the best in the history if the sport. but alas, as i pointed out above the REALITY of floyds career and legacy. thats why i feel pacman accomplished more in his bouts with atg’s morales and barrera than floyd has and REM POINTS OUT the quantified numbers and metrics below making a great case for pac. but floyds plus/minus ratio is very impressive and awesome. but because of the reality of his career choices i think it detracts even from his goat plus/minus ratio statistics.

Posted November 30, 2013 2:26 pm 


Popkins

It’s common boxing knowledge that Tyson’s peak years were in his early 20′s, 1986-88. By 2002, when he fought Lewis, Mike was shot to pieces. Lewis. although slightly older, was still at the top of his game….. Unfortunately we will probably see a rerun of this with Mayweather v Pac in 2015-2016. Both big names, with plenty of cash to be made, but with one fighter a mere shell of his former self.

Posted November 30, 2013 2:26 pm 


Popkins

Pacman is a LIGHTWEIGHT who’s been bulking up for the last few years to take on elite level WELTERWEIGHTS – guys one, two and sometimes three divisions bigger than him. … Floyd IS a WELTERWEIGHT, and over the last few years has generally fought guys the same size as him, sometimes smaller …Ortiz, Marquez, Hatton, and once or twice bigger – Alvarez. … IMO Floyd needs to tackle the likes of GGG or possibly even Andre Ward, in order to match the sort of heights that Manny Pacquiao achieved (in terms of fighting bigger men) in beating Cotto. … Pacman is 5 foot 6 and is a former Flyweight world champion!!!! Unbelievable really, when you look at what he has achieved.

Posted November 30, 2013 2:21 pm 


Hidalgo

“Brandon Rios could not go 8 rounds with Canelo Alvarez”

Wanna bet? He’d go 12 with Floyd too. He’s not going to stand there with his arms by his side like Ortiz did. No one has come close to knocking Brandon out. Floyd wouldn’t either.

You wanna see what’s what? Throw Brandon in with Robert Guerrero.

Posted November 30, 2013 2:14 pm 


SREDMOND

Why is PAC “so declined” when he is 2 years younger than Floyd and has fought at higher weight classes for a shorter period??? If Pacs better then why is Floyd still best in the World and Manny KOED by a 40 year old? The thesis is UNSOUND TO SAY the least

Posted November 30, 2013 2:12 pm 


BEARS

i remember when sredmond vehemently opposed mayweather fighting canelo out of fear

Posted November 30, 2013 2:09 pm 


SREDMOND

HaHa “Pacs the best in the business” ranked AFTER Marquez and others on the P4P list he is 1-1 in his last 2 fights including being KOed so bad everyone was calling for him to retire.. Fans like yourself and Hecdog NOW set the bar so low for him that beating a fighter like Rios coming off a loss for NO title or anything seems like the Super Bowl …. No one would even accept Brandon Rios coming off a loss as an opponent for Floyd Mayweather but then again Mayweather has not gotten knocked beyond cold so naturally expectations of him are greater… Brandon Rios could not go 8 rounds with Canelo Alvarez

Posted November 30, 2013 2:08 pm 


Popkins

Ray Robinson, Ali, Duran, Ray Leonard, RJJ, Pacquiao…. Ward? …A couple of bad losses in his late 30′s in 2015-16 and Mayweather’s chances of joining Pacquiao as “Fighter of the Decade” will quickly disappear. Pacman’s credentials are now set in stone. People have accepted he is no longer the fighter he once was and have marked his declined with the Mosley, Marquez 3 and Bradley fights. Losses now for Manny really will have little effect on his standing in boxing history. Nobody cares that Tyson lost to Danny Williams, or that RJJ was beaten by Danny Green – they remember the versions that crushed Spinks and schooled Toney. … Mayweather is still considered to be close to his peak, and so each fight can potentially damage/enhance his boxing legacy…

Posted November 30, 2013 2:04 pm 


BEARS

i like this REM guys posts!!

as usual tark swoops in and totally lights sredmond and co up with his bixing knowledge and insight. tark just manhandles these dummies on east side threads.

Posted November 30, 2013 1:58 pm 


SREDMOND

Canelo had clearly established himself as the Top Guy at 154 that’s just fact… You don’t wanna acknowledge ANY reality and that’s your pattern as it pertains to Pacquiao… Floyd beat 2 guys with belts at 154 both Canelo and Cotto but in your book that’s less impressive than Manny beating Margarito for a vacant title where he (Tony) accomplished NOTHING…. You just ignore information that’s not 100% in Pacs favor absent sound argument…

Posted November 30, 2013 1:55 pm 


REM

If Floyd is the ww and jmw champ Pac is now an 11x tittlist don’t blame me take it up with the wbo.

Posted November 30, 2013 1:54 pm 


REM

Pac has been on the p4p list for 336 weeks now more than anyone wow not his fault Floyd retired just the best in the business the #s don’t lie.

Posted November 30, 2013 1:50 pm 


Von Pugsly

The only way this fight gets made is if Schaefer and Mayweather stay out of the negotiations altogether. Showtime guarantees Mayweather’s purse anyway. Showtime execs would have to negotiate with Arum and Todd DeBeuf directly, and they would have to leave the fighters, their managers and trainers, out of it altogether. But, yeah, I don’t see it happening, because the egos of Arum, Mayweather and Richard Schaefer will never allow it. Mayweather will demand that Pac-Man give random semen samples, Schaefer will demand that the fight take place on Puerto-Rican Independence Day at MSG in spite of the fact that neither fighter is Puerto-Rican nor from NYC, and Arum will demand that they use 2 oz. gloves and no one will budge in negotiations.

Posted November 30, 2013 1:50 pm 


Hecdog

Floyd’s accomplishments mean nothing until he stops avoiding Manny Pacquiao. The boxing world knows it. The same question will follow Mayweather to his grave. The fight has lost it’s luster right now because of Floyd’s refusal to fight Manny, but there’s still some hope if we can get Floyd to a psychiatrist soon. It’s not about the money or any other lousy excuse. The man is scared. What could have been the biggest selling fight in history and the biggest sporting spectacle of all time goes down the drain because of one person, Floyd Mayweather. Manny has been beaten, so what’s the deal Floyd? Floyd’s boxing peers, past and present now do believe he’s afraid, and that’s a shame. Floyd Mayweather has a great life and all the fame and fortune in the world, yet he runs away from the great Manny Pacquiao. This speaks volumes about Floyd Mayweather and volumes about the great Manny Pacquiao that never ducked anyone.

Posted November 30, 2013 1:47 pm 


*

Mayweather* will always have that one question put in his face regardless of how his career ends. Why didn’t you fight Manny Pacquiao?

Posted November 30, 2013 1:41 pm 


It’s Me, Ernie

Whoa! Still butthurt over Lennox’s stoppage victory over the over-matched VK…

Posted November 30, 2013 1:35 pm 


SREDMOND

Floyd’s been a P4P fighter longer than Manny, again both guys are ATGs but as we stand look at the difference Floyd’s legit Champ in 2 weights and just Unified in the BIGGEST revenue bout in history, he also holds the WW crown, and is the consensus P4P #1 man in the sport Undefeated over 17 years… Manny just fought a guy who just LOST at 140 and has 0000000 credentials at 147… Meanwhile PAC was destroyed by a 40 year old fighter who has NEVER defeated another WW fighter… It’s Floyd’s world, Rios was a rehab fight..

Posted November 30, 2013 1:35 pm 


REM

And I acknowledge and admire the phenominal fighter Floyd is but in reality he doesn’t hold a lineal tittle in any weightclass at the moment that’s wbc/wwe bs. Bradley is the ww lineal champ by way of robbery over Pac and don’t get me started on Canelo his tittle was worth as much as the one stripped for Sergio that he had to win back after never losing it.

Posted November 30, 2013 1:32 pm 


REM

Hecdog whats the term they like to use “easy money” ROTF…..

Posted November 30, 2013 1:24 pm 


Hecdog

Mayweather will always have that one question put in his face regardless of how his career ends. Why didn’t you fight Manny Pacquiao? I wonder what his answer will be? Arum didn’t let me, Dad wouldn’t let me, Not enough money, Haymon said no, Uncle Roger said no, (no that won’t work because Roger himself has said that Floyd needs fight him). He wouldn’t agree to testing (sorry, Manny already has), mom says no, the ring is too small, I only fight in Las Vegas. The real answer from Floyd as to why he didn’t fight Manny Pacquiao is because he’s SCARED!

Posted November 30, 2013 1:23 pm 


SREDMOND

I respect the hell out of PAC, but that “8th World Title” is WEAK he beat Margarito who was NOBODY at 154/150 for a vacant title… I give Manny his due on 7 Championships.. Unlike Floyd PAC Man has been Knocked out 3x only one of the fighters was someone special and that someone special was treated like jail bait by Floyd Mayweather after 21 months out of the ring, a 39 year old Marquez knocked Manny cold and could not legitimately win a round off Floyd…Manny Pacquaio has lost MORE fights than Floyd has lost cards in his entire career… Mayweather dominance over this span and in 5 weight classes is unprecedented ..At 34 Brandon Rios had Mannys future in his hands, had PAC lost it was curtains meanwhile Mayweathers record is as unblemished as ever and he’s beating MUCH better foes than a punching bag like Rios…

Posted November 30, 2013 1:23 pm 


The Best!

People are so pathetic, why would anyone want to see these cherry pickers fight one another. FLoyd now will obviously embarrass Manny. Why didnt the coward of Floyd take on Manny in his PRIME? Manny is way to slow and doesn’t have the power he once had nor the chin. And Mayrunner never goes for the finish which would make this a very boring fight.

Posted November 30, 2013 1:21 pm 


Hecdog

REM, Thank You for those stats.

Posted November 30, 2013 1:14 pm 


The Best!

EVERYBODY NEEDS TO BOYCOTT THIS CRAP…..FLOYD IS DESPERATE NOW BECAUSE HE HAS TO MEET THE DEMANDS OF SHOWTIMES AND WILL NOW FIGHT THE WASHED UP MANNY…..MAYWEATHER CLERLY S AFRAID OF MANNY IN HIS PRIME!

Posted November 30, 2013 1:13 pm 


REM

Pac 11tittles Floyd 8 tittles
Pac tittles in 8 weightclasses Floyd 5
Pac 1st to 4 lineal tittles Floyd 2nd
Pacc 3x F.O.T.Y Floyd 2x
Pac fighter of Floyds prime decade
Men lie women lie the envious lie the #s don’t
How can Floyd be the best of an era that the G.O.A.T fought in
Ahhahahaha

Posted November 30, 2013 1:04 pm 


Two Piece

His Stats are Phenomenon. The guy gets a bloody nose vs a fighter of Cotto’s calibre @ 154lbs and the crowd cheers, “what an achievement he bloodied Mayweather ” that is recognition of greatness.

Posted November 30, 2013 12:24 pm 


SREDMOND

Two Piece, makes a good point if you ASK all the trainers and people in boxing who is the BEST they ALL say Floyd Mayweather… YOu will NOT hear a SINGLE remotely credible fighter or trainer saying hes an easy night…. 13 years ago or something like that Gil Clancy was saying this kid is gonna be something special… He spots guys size and years and it simply does not matter…

Posted November 30, 2013 12:10 pm 


SREDMOND

Man Please Floyd is a 5 weight Champion who was the lineal Champion in 4 weight class he has defeated numerous HOFERs, Current and standing World Champions… It ALWAYS seems like someone is “not peak when they face him” yet Mayweather is often the older boxer… He jus unified the 154 pound division spotting a kid 13 years and 15 pounds yet of course Canelo was “past it” Floyds not close to “young” in boxing years yet he KEEPS dominanting he has been a P4P fighter for OVER 10 years even when Wlad was still getting knocked out by unimpressive foes…What “Great Fighter” did it take to stop Wlad Klits? Corrie Sanders? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Mayweathers legacy is ROCK solid, he faced Champ after Champ and won look at the guys the Klits are beating Mormeck, Thompson, Wach, Pianeta, Charr, Chisora who are the World Beaters? Povetkins the best name in years and his rep was sullied by struggling with Cruisers and defeating relics like Rahman and Boswell….

Posted November 30, 2013 12:08 pm 


Two Piece

Pts – Floyd will be 37yrs in 2mnths time, when was his peak, and how many fighters did he fight @ a catchweight, be specific and factual or you just ranting like a fool. Mayweather isthe best of his era like MJ in basketball, Messi & CR7 in soccer, Ali, SRR, SRL. Why do you think everyone from Hopkins, GGG, Mundine, Marqez, Cotto, Garcia, Khan, Alexander, Bradley, Broner, Martinez, etc all want a piece of him, they all respect him enough to recognise that his #1 & is the best test, all of them including Pacman.

Posted November 30, 2013 11:54 am 


Anonymous

you can tell the plastic fans a mile away by watching the clenchkos fight.

Posted November 30, 2013 11:10 am 


pts

If the Klits legacy is “weak,” imagine Floyds who has yet to create a credible legacy. Floyd fought all the best fighters but, way past their prime. If that wasn’t enough he fought many others at catchweight. In fact, Floyd still does NOT have a career defining fight. Talk about smoke and mirrors.

Posted November 30, 2013 10:39 am 


SREDMOND

Who cares if Vitali protested the stoppage? It was about time he did RATHER than QUITTING against Chris Bryd, which was pathetic.. He dug deep and showed some guts that said his face was badly reaaranged and no Dr worth their salt was gonna let him take more of that abuse… Klits legacy is weak from a competitor standpoint that’s why his fans have all these theories regarding the Lewis fight, trying to get him as much credit as possible… 11 years later they are broken inside because Lennox turned Vitali into another statistic, like a pregnant teenage girl..

Posted November 30, 2013 10:31 am 


SREDMOND

Vitali whining about a stoppage he could have prevented if his defense or offense was better is his own damn fault, he was taking those big right hands poorly from a structural standpoint.. His body could not tolerate Lewis and crumbled under the blows, hole after whole he was bloodied… He wa given a generous almost 4 rounds starting early in the 3rd to stop Lennox inside the distance because his face was like a 4 alarm fire, instead he was arm punching and dreaming of trying to get a points win while going 9 more rounds looking like he came out an accident at NASCAR… It was not happening and as Lewis began taking over in 5 and 6 it was clear Vitali was gonna lose more than some rounds had things continued, he was gonna lose his eye socket…

Posted November 30, 2013 8:58 am 


TARK

B Red…, VK didn’t get stopped by LL.. He got cheated..

That fight goes to the scorecards with any other referee but Lou Moret. A TD isn’t a stoppage. You cannot stop somebody with illegal blows, even if they’re “accidental.” Lewis’s were deliberate.

You can foul out and get DQ’d… You can win on points like Andre Ward did vs Kessler—after AW’s accidental butts.. You can lose on points like Kessler did… Or the fight can be declared a no contest because 4 rounds weren’t fought.

Cotto didn’t get stopped by Cheato either… Blows landed with plastered wraps are illegal … You can have a win in the record book that’s not a true win because you got cheated… Boxers do get robbed and that’s just a fact … You can easily get 2 judges like CJ Ross.

Posted November 30, 2013 2:33 am 


Anonymous

Manny beat a dehydrated punching bag like rios big deal. Anyone who dont have issues making weight beats Manny. Hince Marquez and Bradley. Why we even having this idea of Floyd when Manny cannot dispatch a washed up Marquez. Mannys opponets are handpicked and doped into making weight like Cotto and De la Hoya. He will never face Floyd and Arum is a greedy jew.

Posted November 30, 2013 2:13 am 


Anonymous

Lennox didn’t stop s***. The Dr. stopped the fight and Vitali protested. Lewis was relieved. Amazing how biased morons try to rewrite history, thinking no one remembers what really happened. It’s 2013, we can pull the video up within seconds for the replay, but keeping telling your little fairy tales if it gets you through the dark place that black HW fighters and fans are in right now.

Posted November 30, 2013 1:28 am 


Anonymous

Fraud v Pacman, that fight is well past its sell by date. Typical of Fraud to run away from GGG as expected. Fraud is such a con artist its laughable. Only his knob-jockey-fan-club like SREDMOND and Co care about Fraud these days.

Posted November 30, 2013 12:47 am 


B Red

Its funny that the Kovalev aarticles are getting any views or comments. But suckers like Bears and the rest wanna hate on Floyds thread.

Posted November 30, 2013 12:45 am 


Old Coot

Manny could offer to fight for free with one arm and the ‘GOAT’ will still make false accusations and unnecessary demands!

Posted November 30, 2013 12:43 am 


Mike tyson

I say boxing expert Raymond is a lot more boring that the Klits brothers. Like a broken record preaching every boxer could do better expressly fighters expressly not his favorites.
It’s ok every one do this but just not, no your are wrong Iam right and I will fight you to prove you wrong, like a little kid that never grew up. that everyone Has to agree with him or he make they pay. school boy thug, now boxing thug. LOL.

Posted November 30, 2013 12:41 am 


B Red

Vitali got stopped by Lennox, your tune is old

Posted November 30, 2013 12:35 am 


Just a boxing fan

Stop all the BS and Fight!

Posted November 30, 2013 12:25 am 


Anonymous

Boring is subjective. PEEJ will call the Klits boring but then get aroused watching Fairyweather dance around and put people to sleep.

Posted November 30, 2013 12:18 am 


PEEJ

Yeah, TARK, I just miss the days that blacks could compete at HW.

Posted November 30, 2013 12:16 am 


urone2

Wlad was not boring until he was knocked out by brewster, after that he became more conservative with a safety first style, Vitali didn’t get boring until he started having back problems. Before that both fighters were very exciting to watch.

Posted November 29, 2013 11:58 pm 


PEEJ

One last thing.. the are no racial motives to any of my posts as I have proven tonite. I’ve been here since 2001.

Posted November 29, 2013 11:44 pm 


TARK

Vitali beat Tomaz Adamek (44-1), Chris Arreola, Sam Peter, Juan Carlos Gomez (44-1), Shannon Briggs, Herbie Hide, Manuel Charr, Dereck Chisora, Larry Donald, Vaughn Bean, Kirk Johnson, Corrie Sanders, and Odlanier Solis.

Vitali beat 6 world champions. He was beating Chris Byrd and Lennox Lewis on points when those fights were stopped.. He was never out-boxed, out punched, knocked down, or behind on points.. He was pretty damned good.. Unfortunately Wladimir was his brother … because he would have beaten him too.

Posted November 29, 2013 11:40 pm 


TARK

PEEJ you way WRONG… No way Henry Cooper, Doug Jones, Alfredo Evangelista, Richard Dunn, Ruddi Lubbers, or Jean Pierre Coopman would have beaten Mormeck.

Posted November 29, 2013 11:37 pm 


PEEJ

That’s my last post if the night. I’m heading out.

Posted November 29, 2013 11:34 pm 


PEEJ

And there goes the idiot

Posted November 29, 2013 11:33 pm 


PEEJ

Mormeck also hade a chin made out of fine shattered china. If you looked at him wrong he would get KOd. Any of Ali’s opponents would of done away with him easy

Posted November 29, 2013 11:33 pm 


PEEJ

Been posting here since blacks were still relevant at HW, so basically, a long, long, LONG time.

Posted November 29, 2013 11:31 pm 


PEEJ

Look the Zklits are clearly the beat heavyweights of there generation but they are boring. Well Wlad is. Vitali will actually make it entertaining. But Wlad is very very boring

Posted November 29, 2013 11:31 pm 


TARK

Mormeck was bigger than Doug Jones, Henry Cooper, Karl Milderberger, Jimmy Ellis, Jerry Quarry, Floyd Patterson, or Bob Foster.

When it came to fighting small heavyweights Ali was tops.

Posted November 29, 2013 11:30 pm 


Sean Tompkins

Donny Long = Right on the money!

Posted November 29, 2013 11:30 pm 


SREDMOND

Bears, WHY do you continually QUOTE Vivek Wallace and use him giving Vitali props as proof the elder Klit is “The Goat”…. After the Povetkin fight Vivek Wallaces went after Wladimir HARD and says “his legacy will only stand on paper” he dismissed Wlads whole reign as weak and condemned his tatics in that Povetkin bout… Clearly you LOVE Vivek so on the DOWN LOW you must support his contentions about Wladimir??? “Vitali the Goat” no one even cares if he fights again, where is the chorus???????? “Crickets”

Posted November 29, 2013 11:21 pm 


SREDMOND

Bears calls Wlad “A fireworks fighter” LMFAO…..Wladimir Klits is easily one of the DULLEST HW fighters the sport has ever birthed… He has found a way to win, and stop his opponents while creating UNWATCHABLE fights…. This is truly a skill how one guy can consistently underwhelm while getting the job done… Bears your opinioin means NADA the public has passed on the HW Champion of the World and thats simply not easy to do… Klits has been on top for many years now and his fights are still curing Insomnia all over the Globe….

Posted November 29, 2013 11:15 pm 


PEEJ

Saw most of those fights and Elaf was boring in most of those fights. Just cause you get a KO doesn’t make you exciting

Posted November 29, 2013 11:14 pm 


SREDMOND

The consensus in the US on the Klits is that they are BORING as hell, Wlad has had some fights where he poured it on but they are few and far between… There is a reason that this continent could really care less about the HW division and the stinkers that Wlad treated us to against Haye and Povetkin (2 of his biggest bouts the past few years) BOTH solidify the reputation that he is a JAB and GRAB Giant who has all the tools, gets his wins but is simply DULL in the ring… Everyone has their individual tastes, that said the public here has taken a pass on the Klit era and all the LONG WINDED excuses as to why simply don’t matter, facts are facts…. Flopping all over opponents is not gonna EVER get Big Wlad a fanbase here… He will continue toiling in Germany where they thought Mormeck was a KILLER HW…..HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Posted November 29, 2013 11:12 pm 


TARK

Wladimir wasn’t boring vs Austin, Brock, Thompson I and II, Jefferson, Wach, Peter I and II, and Chambers.

Everybody has boring fights… Ali versus Evangelista, Mathis, Lubbers, Mac Foster, Bugner I and II, and Young was the most boring fighter on Earth.

Posted November 29, 2013 11:01 pm 


PEEJ

Wlad is no fireworks fighter. He is more boring than John Ruiz

Posted November 29, 2013 10:46 pm 


PEEJ

I agree Vitali is better than Wlad but Wlad has the better resume and is the Champion

Posted November 29, 2013 10:45 pm 


PEEJ

Yeah tomato can it was around 2000 or 2001. I know cause I found this site when I worked for southwestern bell before AT&T bought them out. Fake folks now trying to sleal names.

Posted November 29, 2013 10:43 pm 


Christian Wians/Donny Long

The same drooling, racist idiot.

Posted November 29, 2013 10:30 pm 


BEARS

provod and froch r on the fireworks listjust not top 5. good list though tomato

Posted November 29, 2013 10:25 pm 


Best

Rigondeaux, Lomachenko, Frampton, Mikey Garcia, Mayweather, Ward, Golovkin, Kovalev, V Klitschko, W Klitschko

Posted November 29, 2013 10:17 pm 


Christian Wians

Donny Long = Spot on.

Posted November 29, 2013 10:17 pm 


B Red

Tomato Can, Im not sure Vitali is the smarter and Greater fighter

Posted November 29, 2013 10:16 pm 


Tomato Can

B red, there was a time not long ago I would agree with you about Vatali being the better fighter, but now that both are getting older I think Wald has more left.

Posted November 29, 2013 10:14 pm 


Tomato Can

Most exciting: Matthysse, Provodnikov, Garcia, Angulo, Froch…

Posted November 29, 2013 10:09 pm 


B Red

tomato Can, Vitali is better than Wlad. He can box as well as brawl and takes a good punch

Posted November 29, 2013 10:04 pm 


Tomato Can

Best: Mayweather, Ward, Rigonduex, Wald, Bradley.

Posted November 29, 2013 10:02 pm 


BEARS

wow sup with the hate u guys must be butt hurt

Posted November 29, 2013 9:51 pm 


Bobby Balljar

Manny takes Floyd in SD , of curse Floyd will not fight him though.

Posted November 29, 2013 9:47 pm 


D

@ Donny Long… No race has any advantage over another race in any sport. It’s culture, opportunity, and training that produces athletes. You need a ball and shoes to play hoops, so it’s a popular game for kids without resources.

In the US there are very few white boxers. There are more in European countries where professional boxing is just now taking root within their cultures. America used to dominate amateur boxing, but US parents are pulling their kids from amateur boxing programs today. Europe, Cuba, and Latin America dominate amateur boxing … and the US is nowhere.

If you can’t recruit novice athletes, in good numbers, you won’t produce world class athletes. If you don’t produce engineers and scientists, in good numbers, you won’t produce new technologies.

Posted November 29, 2013 9:36 pm 


B Red

Bears, your entitled to your list moronic fool

Posted November 29, 2013 9:35 pm 


BEARS

adonis is the melanin. u tell me a fireworks fighter melanin i missed

Posted November 29, 2013 9:31 pm 


Tomato Can

Agreed B Red…

Posted November 29, 2013 9:29 pm 


Tomato Can

LOL@ Bears: where’s the melanin in that list of yours? Too funny….

Posted November 29, 2013 9:29 pm 


B Red

Im quite amused by Bears stupidity, he is a rediculous retard

Posted November 29, 2013 9:28 pm 


B Red

Tomato Can i Agree, Deontay Wilder is similar to Paul Williams but with massive power, if he catches Wlad flush first, your gonna see him nappin Like Roy and Pac

Posted November 29, 2013 9:26 pm 


BEARS

dude that list is garbage. my top 5 fireworks fighters. wlad, kovalev, 3g, mathyse, and canelo (when canelo aint severly drained stamina issues and can let his hands go). pax in that list up high. adonis is on that list but not as high.

Posted November 29, 2013 9:25 pm 


Tomato Can

Who called Mitchell a hope? Maybe a couple of demented fans, cause everyone else knee he was a crude fighter with no ameture experiance. He did well from where he came from, but I doubt he was anyone’s hope… As for Wielder he’s hS more experiance than Mitchell ever did, but he can’t fight going backwards and has a problem avoiding punches. He’s a I’m gonna get you before you get me type of fighter, I think it only a matter of time before he gets knocked out. He’s also another fighter who’s not on many’s hope list, other than a few bigots out there who find race meaningful in the sport…

Posted November 29, 2013 9:22 pm 


B Red

MY top five Best on the list right now. Floyd, Ward, Bhop, Bradley Marquez

Posted November 29, 2013 9:08 pm 


Royce

Yes, it’s very funny that Great Black Dope Mitchell was absolutely destroyed in less than a round by a guy that was beaten up and made to cry by the great Vitali. And the only reason Wilder is even in the discussion is because he hasn’t fought anyone yet. When he does, he will be exposed as the black fraud that he is and no one will talk about him anymore. LOL @ Black Heavyweights…

Posted November 29, 2013 9:03 pm 


B Red

The best mexican fighters ive seen are Marquez and Sanchez. They understand the whole offensive defense thing ya dig

Posted November 29, 2013 9:02 pm 


BEARS

arreola a punching bag???!!?!!?!

he smoked your hope in one round!!!!

whats that say for your hope???? there is no hope! lol

Posted November 29, 2013 8:50 pm 


B Red

Arreola was the biggest human punching bag ive seen, next to Rios and Margarito. They like getting there head rocked.

Posted November 29, 2013 8:48 pm 


BEARS

*every bit the skill of foreman, shavers, and lyle** boy them 3 could BANG!!!!! too

Posted November 29, 2013 8:47 pm 


BEARS

the contenders have every bit the “skill” shavers and foreman had and the klitschkos would be favored to beat anyone. it only gets debateable with the mention of fellow super heavyweight lennox lewis who foreman outspokenly wanted no part of. east side bixings own Vivek Wallace creator of lefthooklounge says vitaly is the greatest heavyweight and to say he wouldnt be favored to beat little cassius clay is a stretch of the imagination. im glad tomato fessed up and came clean. i wont ride him so hard about it. yes tomato your close to the actual year east side got up and running now. u n peej were off the mark initially and crazy eastern block guy i dont know where the heck he is coming with his fallacy but i guess he seen 2 names somewhere and assumed something really dumb. i never cease to be entertained here at east side. i try to remember we have more in common than different. we all love boxing. and that makes even the posters i disagree with special because we all contribute in our support of the sport and east side contributes with the forum. east sides a great site but i wish they would fix the your posting too fast bs!

Posted November 29, 2013 8:45 pm 


B Red

Seth Mitchell is cluelees and should have never jumped in the sport. Wilder im not sold on yet, he is still a work in progress. If Deontaye catch Wlad with a joint. Wlad is gonna take a nap

Posted November 29, 2013 8:41 pm 


B Red

BTW, This HW era is the worst era in boxing. Those big stiffs have minimal skils

Posted November 29, 2013 8:33 pm 


Tomato Can

The site has a lot of good points to it. Boxing being number one. I could careless weather it’s eastern european, or eastern american or the middle east for that matter… I liked when the site had a chat forum during big fights. I thought that was pretty cool.

Posted November 29, 2013 7:35 pm 


Tomato Can

Bears, fine, I’ve been posting on this site since early 2003. About 10 years too long…

Posted November 29, 2013 7:31 pm 


Tomato Can

Dixon, that would be just more of the same from those who hate the idea of equality. Dixon, all you have to do is look at your bigoted history to know that’s the truth. Why cry reverse racism and bigotry when you know who originated it, and is the true cause of it. Instead of complaining about it, do something to keep it from happening in the future. Start fixing the problem at home, instead of being a part of the problem…

Posted November 29, 2013 7:30 pm 


BEARS

2001 is when godaddy was launched not eastside. again nutsack

Posted November 29, 2013 7:28 pm 


Boaz

Yes, Chekhanovskiy and Pronishev were down with the bruthas. They had 0 interest in the Eastern European side of this game. Go through any American ghetto and you will find many with the names Chekhanovskiy and Pronishev.

Posted November 29, 2013 7:26 pm 


Dixon

I think this site should do a feature on all the Great Black Dopes of this era. I wonder if the overly sensitive bigots on this site could handle such a column. Whoever wrote it would just be telling the truth. A guy like Wilder is garbage but they are hoping that he can become a champion one day. I wonder what sort of response such a column would receive on this site. Since bigots here like to throw around outdated terms about white fighters, what would happen if a columnist wrote a piece that simply told the truth about inferior black HW fighters? I am sure the title alone would get the bigots going. ESB doesn’t have the balls in the year 2013 to run such a piece.

Posted November 29, 2013 7:22 pm 


PEEJ

When I say I’ve been posting since 2000, I meant early 2000′s of course. @ Aug 2001-ish.

Posted November 29, 2013 7:15 pm 


BEARS

cool what country do you think east side boxing is housed in? how is it eastern block? because u found two cats with eastern block sounding names???? a pollack (countless in the u.s and what else a slovak name?) you think east side is eastern block cause u found two names????!!!! lets make everything eastern block with a twist. we will write in english. your a nutsack dude plus i have the site info in can be looked live anytime its totally american and has always been americAn. i have it all. im not playing down syndrome detective looking at random names and trying to glean something from that. l @ the dummy

Posted November 29, 2013 7:15 pm 


Way Back Machine

Also from the front page: ***complete Euro-Fighter rankings***

Now, why would they offer such a list if this site was not about Eastern Euros? BEARS just thinks that because other fighters were mentioned also, that it was the same as other sites. It was not and you now have the proof. Go to the old screencaps for more proof. You wouldn’t have 90% of the black, racist pieces of crap or someone like te tumbo on the 2001 version of this site, end of story.

Posted November 29, 2013 7:15 pm 


Tomato Can

I’ve Also heard the eastern euro theory before.

Posted November 29, 2013 7:14 pm 


Tomato Can

Bears then what is this: “Copyright © EastSideBoxing.com 2001-2013. All Rights Reserved.’

Posted November 29, 2013 7:11 pm 


Way Back Machine

In that screencap, look at the upcoming fights on the left, BEARS. Almost all feature Eastern Euros. Again, you are proven wrong. Maybe track MarK and Eddie down and ask them what their goals for this site were. I am sure it was not to have it end up like it is today.

Posted November 29, 2013 7:10 pm 


BEARS

this fool who is posting under peoples nAmes and claiming he knows east side is about eastern euro fighters needs banned. lets look at pages 1-10 and tell me onenoage dedicated to eastern euros? i can show u the page that says when and where east side started. the while history. but some fkhead says” i took a screenshot…..” thats all subjective a$$brain. im not dealing in subjectivity with my claims

Posted November 29, 2013 7:07 pm 


Way Back Machine

*****EDITOR: Mark Chekhanovskiy*****

A site run by a guy with a name like that is partial to Eastern Euros? Ya don’t say. And Eddy Pronishev was the webmaster. BEARS, you are an idiot. Who runs this site now, Tyrone Jackson?

Posted November 29, 2013 7:06 pm 


Tomato Can

“Great White Hope is a term that should never again be used with the emergence of dominant white HW champions and white champions at other weight classeS”…. WTF??? Please who created this term, why was it created and used time and time again during a Black heavyweights reign??? That term will always be around, it’s part of boxings ugly history.

Posted November 29, 2013 7:04 pm 


BEARS

i just told u east side didnt exist in 2001 tomato. wtf u dont know what your talkin about

Posted November 29, 2013 7:03 pm 


Way Back Machine

Had a look at that screencap of ESB from Aug 01 and it was mostly news on Eastern Euros with a huge focus on the K Bros. Of course other fighters were mentioned but they were in the minority. Have a look yourself. Maybe you got $**t back then, BEARS, because you’re a pinhead. Probably not much to do with who you supported.

Posted November 29, 2013 7:02 pm 


BEARS

east side is based in america and always has been. if u knew how to come up with info u would know when this site started and what city it was launched out of. a simple click of a button would show u as much. lol @ u. east side has always been and always will be all because someone with an eastern block name like “vitaly shaposhnikov” contributes in some fashion has nothing to do with when and where this site was raised you scrotum. pul your head outta your ace before you ask such dumbace questions

Posted November 29, 2013 7:00 pm 


East Side Story

Great White Hope is a term that should never again be used with the emergence of dominant white HW champions and white champions at other weight classes but of course, the blacks, and let’s face it, it’s mostly blacks, get nervous that they are being pushed out, just as they were pushed right out of MLB and have to use such terms.

Posted November 29, 2013 6:57 pm 


East Side Story

It was based in Eastern Europe, with an Eastern Euro staff BEARS, you idiot and fraud. Who is Eddie Probishev, if you know so much?

Posted November 29, 2013 6:54 pm 


PEEJ

Who is posting as me? 1960′s? I have been here since the early 1900′s when my man Jack Johnson was cracking white boy heads.

Posted November 29, 2013 6:53 pm 


Tomato Can

Bear’s your argument os irrelevant. No ones offered you a specific date because it doesn’t matter. I came across ESB, in the early 2000′s probably in 2001, during the sites supposed first year.

Posted November 29, 2013 6:53 pm 


BEARS

well i have been here since the first year east side was in service and none of you seem to know when that was u keep claiming u were here earlier than it existed or u claim to know what it was like. i have been here and i know what it was like and it has always been populated by darker skinned fans and thats what the average boxing fan looks like in america. thats besides the point. we CAN look up past east side articles we CAN see how they were viewed i have some bookmarked in fact and even u can look them up if u know the title or know how to navigate eastside but none of you schmux do know how and non of you have been here as long as u claim or even half that time. lol. its funny u dont know how to find out how long east side has even been up. you have revealed a great deal claiming your ignorance as knowledge. too many fake scrubs here. east side was NEVER about eastern euro fighters! l @ u!!!!! what a dummy. we can look at snapshots if east side AT ANY TIME and at NO TIME was its focal point anything eastern block.

Posted November 29, 2013 6:44 pm 


Tomato Can

Rus, and just how am I racist against whites? I am white dumb ass… I am against bigotry and those that harbor deep seeded hatred of based on small mindedness. And those of you that never stood up for what was right, when behind closed doors, throwing around your bigotry… Thankfully, I wast taught better than that, from other fine up standing white people. Yes, I’m proud of that, and look upon your types with discussed while you cry foul and speak of reverse racism. You haven’t a clue…

Posted November 29, 2013 6:28 pm 


PEEJ

None of my posts are racially motived. I’m just putting that out there now. The fact that my favourite fighters are black is pure coincidence. I also refute any accusation I only started posting here in 2000 to hate on white europeans.

Posted November 29, 2013 6:21 pm 


Tomato Can

El, Gringo, nice, just what this site needs, a wanna be white supremacist living in the back room of his mother’s broken down trailer. Man, you have to love the small minded backward thinking these knuckle heads are made of… They represent the worst that mankind has to offer; yet think their superior to others. They suffer from a genetic flaw much worse than any short comings the lowest individuals of an any particular race, may possess. The misfortunate thing is this site is riddled with em, these days, unlike back in the early days of this sites existence.

Posted November 29, 2013 6:20 pm 


RUS

Ditto for SREDMOND, PEEJ, B Red, the list goes on. This site has gone to the dogs.

Posted November 29, 2013 6:20 pm 


RUS

Tomato Douche is one of the biggest racists here. Because he is racist against whites and because he doesn’t come right out and use slurs, he thinks he gets a free pass. But all the signs are there.

Posted November 29, 2013 6:19 pm 


PEEJ

The problem is that Pac needs a KO or doesn’t need to stop his opponents almost always otherwise there will always never be question marks on his wins. Floyd, on the other hand, does need to KO his opponents all the time because his skills show clearly that he is not the superior boxer in the ring. No question about whether or not he can or cannot win on points. Bad example, Pac obviously lost to Bradley because he could only display the clear cut decision victory on points unlike Floyd.

Posted November 29, 2013 6:06 pm 


El_Gringo

Yet Tomato Can would have no problem with Fairywether describing Pac as a rice eating yellow midget. No racism there.

Posted November 29, 2013 5:59 pm 


El_Gringo

B Red, get a new reason to bash Wlad other than 10+ year old loses, Maricon.

As for Tomato Can, Great white hope? The Klitschkos and whites OWN HW now – and have for a very long time – to the point where talent-less great BLACK hopes like Wilder and Mitchell are popping up. What are Klit fans hoping for? Their guys rule.

Fact is, there weren’t as many ni@@ers aand wi@@ers around ESB in the old days. It had a heavy Eastern European flair. Now its like any other boxing site.

Posted November 29, 2013 5:57 pm 


PEEJ

Been posting since 2000, but was a lurker here since mid 60′s, when Clay beat Liston.

Posted November 29, 2013 5:56 pm 


Anonymous

Manny vs. Floyd dont have the luster that it once did. Arum had many chances to make this bout Happen Manny himself turned down 30 mil. Canelo has a huge following that is why Floyd took the fight. Same with Amir Kahn. Mayweather makes 75-100 mil a fight Manny makes 3. Arum is talking stuff once again about nothing beating Rios the punching bag certainly wont generate a big enough public interest to do record number ppv. If Manny beats a few more dudes convincingly like Danny Garia, Maybe Broner or a top contender then he might spark something, But again look for Arum to match Manny with Bradley and then Marquez 5. He wants people to think Floyd is scared of Manny when Top rank never wanted the fight. If they did it would have happened 3 years ago. Floyd was with Arum he couldnt land big bouts thats why he left and Arum has been hating every since. De la hoys and Cotto the same thing he keeps all his fighters fighting one another. At at the end of the day its about Money and Manny dont generate money he bout with rios was not even worthy of ppv. Him or Bradley for that matter.

Posted November 29, 2013 5:53 pm 


Liver Shot

Mayweather fight has no more meaning. Pacquaio can make the same money fighting Danny Garcia or Canelo. All of Asia that claim Pacquaio buys, Garcia brings Puerto Rico and Latino buys, Canelo brings all of Mexico and Latino buys. Those are money fights. Sorry Bradley, and Alexander nobody wants to pay to see you fight.

Posted November 29, 2013 5:50 pm 


B Red

Anomymous, get a real screen name Maricon

Posted November 29, 2013 5:38 pm 


Tomato Can

Donny Long, fits the mentality I was speaking of to a tee. Small mindedness grasps onto bigotry and racism like a plague.

Posted November 29, 2013 5:36 pm 


B Red

Wlad been knocked out 3 times, that and been on the canvas more than that

Posted November 29, 2013 5:36 pm 


Tomato Can

Tomato Can has been my tag all along, since as early as 2001. Not that it really matters. If Peej says he was hear then, he probably was, too. As far as the Klitscho fans getting kicked around, most of them probably deserved it due to their Great White Hope, mentality.

Posted November 29, 2013 5:32 pm 


B Red

Bears and Donny Long are the same ho’s

Posted November 29, 2013 5:29 pm 


B Red

Bears, stfu you wanker bigot

Posted November 29, 2013 5:28 pm 


Donny Long

Negroes are not “athletically superior”, but they do have certain innate advantages in a sport like boxing, such as a smaller and more simply constructed brain and a thicker skull and thicker skin and a protruding muzzle rather than a vulnerable chin and their faces are less angular and their noses are already flattened out.

Posted November 29, 2013 5:21 pm 


BEARS

lefthook and whoever you havent posted since 2001 this site didnt exist do any of you know what year east side boxing even went up? im one of the originals but bears has not always been my tag. its been my tag since 2010. in the early days being a klitschko supporter got u kicked around here. lol. but i stand up for what i believe in and its gotten better now

Posted November 29, 2013 5:02 pm 


B Red

By the way imposter, I have HBO because its now cost effective, and Ward still fights on that network

Posted November 29, 2013 4:14 pm 


B Red

whos that imposter using my screen name? the one before I went after Tark

Posted November 29, 2013 4:10 pm 


B Red

Tark, stop hating. Floyd made Canelo look like an amatuer, and jumped on him from round 1. Pac has no chance at this version of Mayweather

Posted November 29, 2013 4:08 pm 


B Red

Obviously I have Showtime. When Haymon and Co were at HBO, obviously I had HBO. If Haymon and Co go to another network, obviously, I will have that network. Obviously.

Posted November 29, 2013 4:04 pm 


B Red

Direct TV is a another rip off, thats why I left them years ago

Posted November 29, 2013 4:02 pm 


TARK

Pac-Rios was a cheap card… They brought in cheap fighters because they knew Pacman was going to sell the joint out in 3 hours.

The Mayweather-Canelo fight was just as disappointing as Pacquiao-Rios, but the card was stacked with good fights … especially Garcia-Matthysse.

Posted November 29, 2013 4:01 pm 


B Red

Tomato Can, I changed my cable from Time Warner to Fios and im getting more bang for the buck. I have Showtime and HBO and its much cheaper. With Time Warner I had to make a choice either HBO or Showtime and obviously i Had Showtime, but now i have both and saving more ya dig

Posted November 29, 2013 3:58 pm 


B Red

Don King, used to stack his cards back in the day

Posted November 29, 2013 3:49 pm 


Tomato Can

B Red, yeah I hope so…

Posted November 29, 2013 3:46 pm 


Tomato Can

Hey B Red, you remember the days when we use to get stacked cards on the black cable boxes… Now fans are content with lousy ones as long as they get to see their favorite fighter… Lol

Posted November 29, 2013 3:46 pm 


B Red

Tomato, everybody knows Bears is an idiotic bigot

Posted November 29, 2013 3:42 pm 


Tomato Can

I still have a box of Boxing magazines dating back to I believe 1981.

Posted November 29, 2013 3:36 pm 


B Red

Bears is an idiot, Guys like Tomato Can, Lefhook, myself been posting for a long time. I started posting around 2004-2005. ya dig

Posted November 29, 2013 3:34 pm 


PEEJ

Been posting on other sites and magazines under different names since early 80′s.

Posted November 29, 2013 3:24 pm 


TARK

Sredmond.., “Mayweather is a PPW HUGE success and could shadowbox himself and draw a respectable 1.7 PPV buys at a rate of $85 per household.” … LMFAO, more like one PPV… Sred would pay.

You’re an idiot.

Thousands of people have seen Floyd shadowbox and go through a whole training routine for free. You’re the only one who would pay $85.00 to watch him shadow box … You don’t have a life.

Posted November 29, 2013 3:21 pm 


Tomato Can

Hey left hook, thanks for that… Anyway, I don’t know the exact date that I began posting on this site but I started getting my boxing news from the internet around 1998. Prior to that I got the majority of my news from boxing magazines. So yes I’m sure I started posting on this site somewhere between 1999 and 2001…

Posted November 29, 2013 3:05 pm 


PEEJ

Been using the name since the mid 90′s on other sites.

Posted November 29, 2013 2:42 pm 


Hecdog

Manny Pacquiao is boxing today and has been the face of boxing for the last 10 years. Manny Pacquiao can tell the world he will be doing a public workout on Mount Everest and he’ll get 95% of the world’s population out there before he arrives. I will remind many of you that Manny Pacquiao is the ONLY 8 division boxing champion in history. Manny’s fights are exciting, entertaining, masterful and his peers are the first ones to abuy tickets. This speaks volumes of Manny Pacquiao’s boxing ability. Manny Pacquiao’s marketability is unmatched by any athlete in the world. Nike, Hennessy, Monster Energy Drink, Hewlett Packard, San Miguel Beer, Pistachios and many more continue to rave about Manny’s conquest and take over of athletics, not just boxing. Mayweather rides his opponents fan base (Hatton, Oscar, Marquez). Manny is the show regardless of who he fights. Manny Pacquiao today holds all the cards. He stays with Arum because he’s loyal. he’s a decent, humble, caring person that knows full well that he makes plenty of money without Floyd Mayweather. Mayweather is a greedy, materialistic, egotistical insecure boxer that needs people to tell him how great he is. 99% of Floyd’s financial success is due to Al Haymon and Ellerbe. Floyd knows nothing else in life other than boxing, and I guess that’s okay if he has good people directing every part of his life and creating the image of Floyd actually doing something. Once again, he’s a mirage. Manny Pacquiao on the other hand is his own man. He makes the decisions in his own life, and he makes decisions for the people of his country. Even as he battles the corrupt government officials trying to sabotage his fame and fortune, Manny Pacquiao smiles and helps those most in need. ShowTime, HBO and every other tv network need Manny Pacquiao for boxing to survive. He brings in viewers from all walks of life. This is a man that is a great actor, boxer, congressman, model, singer, philanthropist and he cares about people. His action packed fights leave no one unhappy. They want to see more. Manny Pacquiao needs to develop his own network and he will be the richest man on earth within a few years. Manny Pacquiao is more than just a boxer. Manny Pacquiao’s days in the boxing ring will be coming to a close within a few years. He will be fondly remembered as a boxing warrior that avoided no one. His fights pleased all boxing fans. He came from rags to riches and was invited to the Whit House by the first African American President ever. What an amazing ride! Manny Pacquiao was also the first ever boxer to Lace the cover of TIME Magazine. It’s time to stand up and give this man his respect. Manny Pacquiao will go down in the boxing record books as the greatest pure fighter in history. No one will do what he has done. His accomplishments outside the ring make you shake your head. How can a little boy with nothing accomplish what he did. No amateur boxing background, no family boxing history, no Olympic boxing, no quality boxing gyms to train in, no quality boxers to learn from and so on. Manny Pacquiao is an amazing boxer and person. Let’s celebrate this man. And before it’s all over, he wins a 9th division title. And if Mayweather finds the courage to stop running and fight, he gets his first loss, trust me. Manny Pacquiao is the best.

Posted November 29, 2013 2:20 pm 


Anonymous

Manny’s next opponent will be Justin bieber, bob just confirmed it ….

Posted November 29, 2013 2:19 pm 


REM

Ah more weak attacks on the great sport of mma where the best fight the best. Silly to compare them financially boxings been around for over a century mma just 2 decades. I understand the threatening feelings though we all know who the superior hand to hand combatants are lol.

Posted November 29, 2013 2:14 pm 


lefhook

Bears… Yes he has mate

Posted November 29, 2013 1:56 pm 


REM

Tomato can I was tuning in when both were doing weak cards I can’t help it I’m a junkie for the fightgame. That’s why its easy to pinpoint when and why Floyd and GB started adding an extra star or 2. When they announced that Canelo would be on the Ortiz undercard I thanked Pac for making them do so to try to out do TR lol.

Posted November 29, 2013 1:55 pm 


REM

Excuse me doing stacked cards

Posted November 29, 2013 1:48 pm 


BEARS

lol u have not been posting here since 2001!!!

its about making the best fights available happen and floyd has ALWAYS nnot done that. i dont even care what floyd does. hiss ppv is not worth even 10 bux tome. i watch his tape for free. techniquely floyds cool and he’s a good runner aleays relies on his feet and thats boxing

Posted November 29, 2013 1:44 pm 


Tomato Can

REM, so your saying when you watch boxing you tune in for Pacquiao, not the other cards? That’s exactly what Arum is saying you’ll do, by putting together lousy undercard fights. Is that something to brag about from a fans stand point? Sure that’s good that Pacquiao can sell a card by himself. Is that good for boxing fans though? I think not.

Posted November 29, 2013 1:41 pm 


REM

Garbageman you can thank Pac for that to try to top Pac and TR Floyd and GB beginning with the Ortiz fight started doing stacking cards while TR don’t bother or concern themselves with what Floyd and GB are doing I started posting about this when it began happening thank you Pac raising the bar ha ha.

Posted November 29, 2013 1:32 pm 


Tomato Can

Lol, Bears says Pacquiao can fight JMM or Garcia… Then calls fans cum guzzlers if their accepting of Mayweather fighting Khan. But he doesn’t tell you he wouldn’t accept Mayweather facing JMM or Garcia either. There’s no biased there.

Posted November 29, 2013 1:30 pm 


PEEJ

Garbageman, I mean I stole the name back in @2008 after the original PEEJ got sent away for life. Now some fake is using it too. Is nothing sacred?

Posted November 29, 2013 1:27 pm 


Tomato Can

Then you get the narrow minded fans that think they have it all figured out, only to blame one fighter or the other, and refusing to recognize that fighters accomplishments. This narrow minded approach totally negates their whole argument, yet they keep spewing out the biased posts every day, as if anyone was buying their dung…

Posted November 29, 2013 1:22 pm 


Tomato Can

Bears when was the site created, 2001? I’ve been posting on this site since at least around then. With, the same name, just like PEEJ has. Way before all the multi posting lunatics started infesting this site. Lol

Posted November 29, 2013 1:12 pm 


Tomato Can

Actually I believe REM is correct about Manny not needing a stacked card. But that’s cause the great majority of his fans are Pacquiao fans, not boxing fans necessarily. There’s a big difference as I’m sure some of you can tell by the delusional posts on this site. That being said I’ll take a stacked card over a weak one any day.

Posted November 29, 2013 1:08 pm 


BEARS

peej- the site didnt exist in 2000 your a schmuck son

Posted November 29, 2013 1:03 pm 


PEEJ

MMA is weak. They don’t have the best fighting the best. Not to mention there sells don’t compare to boxing. Floyd’s has fought some of the best in his generation. Plenty of HOFers. Puts on great fight cards. Top Rank should take note.

Posted November 29, 2013 1:00 pm 


The Garbageman

I know you stole the name PEEJ. Pretty weak on your part. But like I said I can tell you too apart. He’s been posting on here for a while. You haven’t. He also knows his stuff.

Posted November 29, 2013 12:57 pm 


BEARS

pac could fight a jmm for big money or garcia and then you have floyd. you have floyd sack garglers like sredmond talkn about money. from a fans stand point money is irrelevant we want to see the best fights and may has never delivered. too bad boxing does not operate like mma. then floyds earnings wouldnt even mostly go his way and the best fights would be forced on him and there would be one title. fans would get what they want it would be sweet. as it is biwing to floyd is not necessary. let him run, cherry pick kahn, or someone else who is leagues beneath the best matchups available. thats what floyd does. pac vs garcia would be sweet but i think a rematch between mathyse and garcia would be awesome. either way floyd doesnt bring any excitement. i couldnt care less what he does it wont be exciting. pac achieved more than floyd years ago. pac is the second highest paid athelete in the world. by no means needs may. if may wants to be a biatch then arum and pac should look elsewhere. floyd is already the fake retiring, cherry picking duck and thats already the fate of his legacy. maybe the money will help ease the reality of that fact in his mind while it provides no consolation for his fans who dangle from his sack like crabs.

Posted November 29, 2013 12:57 pm 


The Garbageman

So now you are saying he needs a stacked card. You would much rather pay what PPV prices are now for a weak under card lisle Top Rank puts in instead of a great whole fight card like Golden Boy puts on. Not to mention they gave like 6 fights. Please. What Floyd and Golden Boy did his last fight was great for the sport and they raised the bar. Fact is Floyd out sells Pac every time no matter who he is fighting. Averages more than a mil per fight. Unfortunately Pac does not. Maybe they should put on better undercards so he can catch up.

Posted November 29, 2013 12:51 pm 


The Garbageman

Floyd does not need a KO to win any fight. First he is not a power puncher and second he turns you into an amateur when he fights you.

Posted November 29, 2013 12:48 pm 


REM

Killa thank you this propaganda is hilarious its logic in its purest form that if Pac v Bradley sold 900k with the controversial win over Pac and him beating Marquez their rematch will bring in more. It’s also clear as day that while people tune in to see Pac Floyd needs a dance partner and a stacked card to sell. No appropriate split no fight now lets see Floyd meet his quota with Showtime lmao.

Posted November 29, 2013 12:47 pm 


PEEJ

The problem is that Pac doesn’t need a KO or need to stop his opponents almost always otherwise there will always be question marks on his wins. Floyd, on the other hand, does need to KO his opponents all the time because his skills show clearly that he is the superior boxer in the ring. No question about whether or not he can win on points. Just an example, Pac obviously lost to Bradley because he could display the clear cut decision victory on points like Floyd.

Posted November 29, 2013 12:30 pm 


urone2

It’s funny how people try to minimize Mayweather worth by say his fans come to see him lose Ali.stood in the same shoe. Win or lose the people come to see Mayweather he’s the big money draw get use to it until he loses . Pacquioawill come begging for the shot now after he had the opportunity to take the lion share but wouldn’t test. Now he will be left with whats give to him. It was a bad business move no his part.

Posted November 29, 2013 12:19 pm 


KILLA

Mayweather vs Khan Next..LOL Showtime really think all Mayweather fans are idiots. How can Showtime sell you this fckn fight and let you criticize Manny opponents muthafckers please!!

Posted November 29, 2013 12:12 pm 


SREDMOND

Pacquiao will make more than 15 mill in fact he will make his largest payday that said Mayweather will also get the LIONS share and his biggest base guarantee should this fight get made… Remember Floyd Mayweather is NOT gonna get paid LESS than 32 mill no matter who he faces which is monster money by historical boxing standards… Against Pac Man Floyd is gonna wanna make epic money and there is no way around that… Pacquiao just had an 18 mill guarantee against Rios and there are NOT any fights that are gonna get him that type of dollars he is seeking ABSENT Mayweather…. Bradley is another SUB 1 million PPV waiting to happen and Marquez is not even jumping at another fight after getting his sweet revenge for 3 prior close bouts…More and More I see this as possible but Top Rank has VERY little leverage to get beyond a certain point… Floyd could say “screw this” fight his final 4 bouts and assuming he wins collect 32 mill no matter what the PPV numbers are, Pac Man cannot make the same claim that card is Macau was terrible and he is OUT of sellable opponents unless he wants to go to 154 where he would almost certainly lose because hes just too small at that weight…

Posted November 29, 2013 12:06 pm 


REM

Garbageman wow ok we’ll just say anything min. wage adds up to about 12k a year that’s what Floyd will get.

Posted November 29, 2013 12:03 pm 


Anonymous

amir khan, will be floyds next opponent if stephin espinosa has anything to do with it
He says , he has no veto over floyds opponents in DEC 2013 BOXING MONTHLY JUST RELEASED

Posted November 29, 2013 11:16 am 


PEEJ

Thanks for the backup Garbageman, but actually that was another PEEJ, I stole his screen name. Happy thanksgiving.

Posted November 29, 2013 11:12 am 


The Garbageman

Gotta disagree. They may offer Pac 10mil maybe 15 but that’s about it. Showtime doesn’t really like Arum.

Posted November 29, 2013 11:07 am 


The Garbageman

Hope everybody had a good thanksgiving. Man PEEJ can’t believe that dude stealing your name. Don’t worry I remember you from back in the day. And your correct the fight won’t take place because some how Arum will once again figure out how to sabotage the fight.

Posted November 29, 2013 11:06 am 


REM

I don’t want the Pac fight just yet I’m now more interested in seeing how Showtime is gonna continue to do big #s with Floyd. Broner and Garcia are the two money fights but niether one wants it. No Mexican to piggyback of off lmao.After losing 12 mil on the Guerrero fight Showtimes gonna throw the bank at Pac.

Posted November 29, 2013 11:05 am 


PEEJ

MJames, Khan is the only guy who can realistically beat Floyd if you do the math. That’s why everyone’s talking about him.

Posted November 29, 2013 11:00 am 


PEEJ

2000 idiot. But like I said everyone knows your a fake

Posted November 29, 2013 10:56 am 


PEEJ

I should be flattered, all these fakes using my screen name. But your lack of boxing knowledge gives you away. Everyone knows how long I’ve been posting here. The one claiming 1996 is clearly fake. The internet wasn’t even invented then. You just make yourself look silly.

Posted November 29, 2013 10:47 am 


PEEJ

Old Coot if Pac does not agree to the testing up until the fight like he just did with Rios it is clear he doesn’t want to fight. Plain and simple. So many fighters including Adonis Stevenson will not fight someone who does not take the random testing. So if he declined its clear he doesn’t want the fight

Posted November 29, 2013 10:46 am 


PEEJ

Sorry Beara but fighting about of his prime Barrera who didn’t know if he was gonna be able to fight anymore because of the metal plate in his head from an accident, and then the fires that forced him to move his training camp and then getting beat by Morales who was close to his prime to the. Beating Morales when he was clearly no longer the same fighter does not do much for your resume

Posted November 29, 2013 10:44 am 


PEEJ

Floyd pulls in more numbers in his own than Pac. They only expected 750 thousand with a known fighter in Rios. They still have yet to release the numbers. As for Floyd vs someone with no fan base in Guerrero and he pulls in a mill. That shows a lot there

Posted November 29, 2013 10:41 am 


Exiled Yank

Three years too late, but it will still sell and I will buy it. I don’t know if it will happen or not. Despite the huge payday, there are too many egos involved and that can kill a fight for sure.

Posted November 29, 2013 10:22 am 


larry b

3 Years too late. This aint going to happen. Next story please

Posted November 29, 2013 9:53 am 


The really real PEEJ (really)

I have been posting my facts on this site for well over 2000 years starting with my observations on naked Greek Olympic boxers. Thats why I have the knowledge and you are idiots.

Posted November 29, 2013 9:42 am 


Marilyn13

MJames, don’t see why you need to use a Floyd Pac article as an excuse to knock Khan. Khan is still a highly relevant player with great contributions to make to boxing. Why, only last weekend he was mouthing off about how Carl Froch needs to retire now. Surely such insightful commentary is more than enough to earn him his shot at Floyd?

Posted November 29, 2013 9:25 am 


MJames

Why is Khan still being talked about? He is a JOKE! He just wants a retirement pay day.

Posted November 29, 2013 5:03 am 


Tachyon

BEARS looks like you ate to much Turkey or drank to much eggnog. Hollywood pay 2000 to 10000+ for prime Mayweather seats no one pays that type of cash to see someone lose.

Posted November 29, 2013 3:33 am 


SREDMOND

Mayweather is a PPW HUGE success and could shadowbox himself and draw a respectable 1.7 PPV buys at a rate of $85 per household.

Posted November 29, 2013 3:27 am 


BEARS

yeah it was barrera that knocked him down. i get the two mixed up sometimes but fighting atg’s morales and barrera And pac accomplished more in those trilogies than mayweather has his whole career

Posted November 29, 2013 2:58 am 


BEARS

mayweather is not bringing numbers in on his own his numbers are due to mexicans supporting floyds mexican opponents with a desire to see him loose. has nothing to do with floyd only. floyd grts boo’ed and his opponent cheered often times. lol. what a dumm fk redmond is

Posted November 29, 2013 2:37 am 


Old Coot

As I said before… It’s too hilarious how now when Floydiacs know Manny is tired of Floyd’s drama, and will likely agree to anything Floyd wants, to make the fight happen for the fans, SUDDENLY Floyd’s fans actually try to peddle the notion that Floyd shouldn’t fight Manny at all, although it’s what most fans including Floyd fans crave most, not to mention the payday that Floyd wants most… $100 plus MILLION?!! GTFOH!! You clowns MUST be ambulance chasing lawyers, who lose every case!!! LOL!!

And if Floyd actually tries AGAIN, to use this PED crap after calling Manny a “washed-up, has-been”, and after his fans keep insisting Manny can’t touch him… That will only solidify the fact that Floyd and his fans are scared pissing their Huggies at what Manny will do to Floyd’s overrated record!! LOL!!

Posted November 29, 2013 2:09 am 


PEEJ

Been here since 1996 and oh, by the way, I chose Rios, KO 10. Shows what you know. Oh, wait…

Posted November 29, 2013 1:39 am 


Menudo

Here is my prediction on who dances with who on the two fighter

Pacquiao vs Bradley
Floyd vs Amir Khan

If I am right, I get a cookie.

Posted November 29, 2013 1:34 am 


Menudo

So who is Floyd’s next opponent?

Posted November 29, 2013 1:31 am 


Menudo

And still, Floyd has not recorded a win against Pacquiao.

I think Pacquiao should fight Bradley next. That’s a good fight money-wise and revenge factor.

Posted November 29, 2013 1:29 am 


nameless

SREDMOND, that’s all good but DO NOT make predictions,,,

Posted November 29, 2013 1:28 am 


SREDMOND

Mayweather has been a BONAZNA for Showtime and a HUGE success 1 million buys for Guerrero and 2.2 million and the RICHEST bout in history for Canelo Alvarez…. Mayweather has an average buyrate of 1.6 million per contest which is astronomical (For his 2 Showtime fights) NOT to mention the fact that the future stars of the sport Canelo, Broner, Garcia and the rest of GBP are following Mayweather to the bank….Showtime has effectively staged a “coup” having landed Floyd and the rest…. They have done WELL on their investment so far, any FOOL thinking they need Floyd to do 2 mill or 1.6 mill per bout to make money are DUMB… Showtime knows what his average buyrate was before and benchmarked accordingly to reduce exposure… AGAIN its Floyds world and as long as he is winning he WORST paycheck he gets is 32 million dollars…. BOOOOSSSSSSSSS!!!

Posted November 29, 2013 1:17 am 


SREDMOND

Morales NEVER put Pacquiao on the canvas WTF are you talking about Bears?? Pacquiao lost to Morales once and beat the HELL out of him 2x you don’t know anything about those fights and wikipedia is not gonna tell you the story idiot….

Posted November 29, 2013 1:10 am 


PEEJ

Beats I said Rios would win by KO in the 10th. I ever said he would you with Pac. Floyd is the only fighter that will toy with Pac. You should know when I am posting and when a fake coward is posting.

Posted November 29, 2013 1:02 am 


PEEJ

Someone has been posting under my name like usual. When I am posting you better mind cause I’m giving you facts. But I don’t curse people out or make racial remarks. I also stick to the predictions that I say and when I’m wrong I will admit it

Posted November 29, 2013 1:00 am 


PEEJ

A whole country, especially a broke country does nothing for your boxing legacy.

Posted November 29, 2013 12:58 am 


PEEJ

Morales in his prime best Pac. Pac holds wins over Morales out of his prime . He hasn’t gotten a difinitive win over a good prime fighter. He also ducked Guzman

Posted November 29, 2013 12:57 am 


PEEJ

Idiot I picked Rios in 10. Why not get your own screen name you fraud. Pac vs Floyd will never come off.

Posted November 29, 2013 12:56 am 


BEARS

morales was so past it and retired when he got ktfo there aint even half the value if his scalp when oac fought him and the judges did horrible in the pac vs morales trilogies. morales did good against pac beating him and dropping him at his PEAK

Posted November 29, 2013 12:23 am 


Sickdog

Pac can do no wrong, he can crushed with one punch, and come out smelling like a rose, even if he Sht his pants. Pac is invincible, and even when he loses again, he’ll still be the best in the world. He has a whole country behind him. We love Pacquiao!!!!!!

Posted November 29, 2013 12:06 am 


PEEJ

Picked Rios KO 4 Pac. Just throwing that out there.

Posted November 28, 2013 11:47 pm 


DIRK

bears dont mind peej, people in ESB dont listen to him, hes one of floyd worshippers aka pac hater, he said rios would ko pac.. ahaha shutout for pac he said he didnt ko rios hes shot washed up its not sweet science, if its floyd, even though its boring, hell said thats sweet science! ahahah

Posted November 28, 2013 11:45 pm 


Hecdog

Public Enemy, are you referring to the same Eric Morales that Manny Pacquiao beat 3 times before Danny Garcia got to him? If that is the case then Danny is doomed from the start. Manny Pacquiao’s speed alone would put fear into Danny Garcia’s eyes and soul. You forget he is an 8 division champion, the most beloved fighter of the decade. Manny is a man of God first. He is loved, respected, admired as a human being first. Manny Pacquiao has gone from rags to riches, from prisoner to prince. In due time, Danny Garcia might be on Manny’s level but nowhere near his skill or speed. Danny Garcia is ok. Lets celebrate instead Manny Pacquiao today. He’s the peoples champion in life. Danny Garcia will get his soon but not now.

Posted November 28, 2013 11:42 pm 


Sickdog

Pacquiao, hero of song and story.
Pacquiao, winner of ancient glory.
Fighting for the right,
Fighting with his might,
With the strength of ten, ordinary men.

Pacquiao, people are safe when near him.
Pacquiao, only the evil fear him.
Softness in his eyes,
Iron in his thighs,
Virtue in his heart,
Fire in every part,
Of the Mighty Pacquiao.

Posted November 28, 2013 11:36 pm 


News Flash

Pac will go to town on poor little danny, Floyd knows hes scared and hiding from Pac. Manny will Knock out Floyd with his south paw pressure style, Floyd knows he cant hold Manny off for to long

Posted November 28, 2013 11:01 pm 


News Flash

Pac beats, Danny, Then Floyd retires without fighting Pac.

Posted November 28, 2013 10:59 pm 


Hecdog

Danny Garcia who? Garcia? Poor guy wouldnt stand 1 round against Paquioa. Public Enemy, you’re underestimating Manny Pacquiao like others are, and if they fight, you will be more than shocked at how Manny Pacquiao beats him. Every fighter that fights Manny says the same things. He’s faster, stronger, more deceptive than I thought. The southpaw style only adds to his fierce fighting style. Floyd has fought fast and strong fighters, but none can match Manny in those areas. Bradley himself says that Manny is faster and stronger than Garcia. Speed changes everything in a fight especially for a guy like Danny Gacia. He’ll have to eventually fight, and that will be his downfall. Manny is the better boxer and counter puncher. Yes, he’s better. This is a legend that has proven his greatness over and over. Floyd has had his way in his fights even though he lost to Castillo and Oscar IMO. Manny will throw off Danny Garcia from round one. My prediction, Manny wins by KO and drops Danny Garcia. Trust me on this. The world will finally see the greatness of Manny Pacquiao.

Posted November 28, 2013 10:38 pm 


Public Enemy

Fight the Scampi.

youtube.com/watch?v=8PaoLy7PHwk

Posted November 28, 2013 10:30 pm 


Public Enemy

I know BRADLEY is not a big star or a big draw but why is Adrein BRONER avoiding him? He IS BECOMING just like his big bro Mayweather and PACQUIOA not far behind avoiding fighters like DANNY Garcia.

Posted November 28, 2013 10:30 pm 


Public Enemy

Not Hecdog, no sense of humour.

Posted November 28, 2013 10:14 pm 


rbasset

Zab and Pacman are both Southpaws. forgot to add that detail.

Posted November 28, 2013 10:08 pm 


rbasset

Mayweather fought a really fast and strong fighter in Zab Judah many years ago. Pacman has a reach 5 inches shorter. Keep that in mind.

Posted November 28, 2013 10:07 pm 


Public Enemy

Fake Public Enemy below- aka Hecdog. Pacquioa has nothing on Danny Garica. Just because he fought a lightweight Rios does not mean he can take on Danny Garcia. Pacquioa wont take on Garcia.

Posted November 28, 2013 10:06 pm 


Public Enemy

I am Scampi, I will get them, tie their shoelaces together.
youtube.com/watch?v=RMxzzWp9tFg

Posted November 28, 2013 10:02 pm 


Public Enemy

Thats not true. Danny Garcia, Khan, and Adrien Broner are the bigger draws. Pacquioa vs ADRIEN BRONER next.

Posted November 28, 2013 9:18 pm 


The Truth

The big money fights for boxers in the 147 lbs to 154 lbs range is Mayweather ,,Pacquiao ,, Canelo these three fighters are the top PPV draws ,,Cotto as good as he is does not pull in rating like these three fighters ,unless he is fighting one of them ..Sergio Martinez and Gennedy Golovkin are not PPV material unless they fight one of the big three .

Posted November 28, 2013 9:15 pm 


Public Enemy

Pacquioa vs DANNY GARCIA NEXT.

Posted November 28, 2013 8:44 pm 


Public Enemy

Pacquioa would mop the floor with Danny Garcia.

Posted November 28, 2013 8:38 pm 


BEARS

u know there is an easy way to look up how long websites have existed dont you peej? i have been on east side since its first year.

Posted November 28, 2013 8:00 pm 


BEARS

lol @ peej!!!! this site did not exist in 2000. your the squirrely-est dude on this site. have u been floyd sack gargling since 2000? is that what you meant to say?

Posted November 28, 2013 7:58 pm 


PEEJ

I don’t make predictions. I just say the truth. You just can’t handle the truth.

Posted November 28, 2013 7:26 pm 


PEEJ

How am I wrong? I’ve been posting on this site since 2000. F@ck you.

Posted November 28, 2013 7:24 pm 


Jack Daniels

Peej is wrong…

Posted November 28, 2013 7:00 pm 


BEARS

peej- you say rios will win by ko then u say may will toy with pac. dude predictions are worthless.

Posted November 28, 2013 6:50 pm 


Redux

Well can all say Floyd will toy and beat Pacquiao up, but Floyd needs to prove it. Both fighters should fight each other so we can all see who is right and who is wrong about their own prediction.

Posted November 28, 2013 6:39 pm 


Redux

Camelo was weight drained. He was too sluggish and not his usual self that night. It’s no wonder he couldn’t pull the trigger.

Posted November 28, 2013 6:37 pm 


RapidFire

Pacquiao would get schooled even worse than Marquez did..seriously people pick someone more worthy

Posted November 28, 2013 6:18 pm 


PEEJ

Floyd will toy with Pac you will see.

Posted November 28, 2013 5:57 pm 


Jack Daniels

Pacman will beat Floyd… You’ll see…

Posted November 28, 2013 5:54 pm 


Anonymous

banged his girl,what a fuc#ing joke there all hookers.

Posted November 28, 2013 5:21 pm 


PEEJ

So. Obviously Floyd didn’t care if he banged his girl. And your right 50 used him to get in and then ruin boxers careers. But doesn’t change the fact that 50 was butt hurt so he went on to talk garbage. Thats how you know he is lying.

Posted November 28, 2013 5:12 pm 


REM

ROTF.. Floyd looked up to 50 and 50 used him to get into boxing promoting and banged his girl.

Posted November 28, 2013 5:06 pm 


PEEJ

Well 50 cent probably said that email was a fake so it has to be a lie because everything 50 cent says is the truth.

Posted November 28, 2013 4:29 pm 


Jay rock

Golden boy showed the email were arum said no, no more to say!

Posted November 28, 2013 4:22 pm 


PEEJ

Dude how many times you ever seen Floyd hit with combinations? Pac isn’t gonna hit Floyd with combinations. He may land a punch here and there but fact is Floyd toys with Pac and that is why Pac and company never excepted the fight and just came up with excuses.

Posted November 28, 2013 3:58 pm 


PEEJ

Yeah an honest account, so all the other times he was lying but as soon as him and Floyd arent friends anymore then he is all of a sudden telling the truth. 50 cent is butt hurt because Floyd did not want to be partners with him in promoting because he knew what a lousy promoter he is. So after then he went and started talking trash. You can take what garbage 50 cents says to the bank but I’m not because I know its lies.

Posted November 28, 2013 3:57 pm 


Who cares

*I meant deluded, however you may be diluted too. Drinking too much water can cause drop in blood sodium levels and can cause hallucinations…:)

Posted November 28, 2013 3:42 pm 


REM

50 actually gave an honest account on why the fight hasn’t happened Floyd is delusional about his worth and is to worried about how much the other fighter is making. Oh and I don’t blame him for being tired of running from Pac lmao.

Posted November 28, 2013 3:42 pm 


Who cares

Peej, u r diluted. Pac would hit Floyd hard, and more than once. Floyd may dominate in certain rounds but Pac would hit Floyd with combinations, harder than he has been ever hit. Pac is very fast, u r really underestimating him. I do not believe that the fight will be one-sided and the Mayweathers know it, that’s why the have avoided Pac…. IF this fighter ever happens, we will see what happens. Until then all this talk, including yours, is as important as a fart…

Posted November 28, 2013 3:37 pm 


Proud African

@Martin. Ok Pac should fight Canelo first.

Posted November 28, 2013 3:37 pm 


PEEJ

A good jab stops speed, Floyd has a good jab. Floyd is stronger than Marquez, is more elusive that any fighter Pac has fought. If Morales out boxed Pac, if Marquez out boxed Pac, heck if Bradley had success in out boxing Pac then I think Floyd can easily out box Pac.

Posted November 28, 2013 3:36 pm 


martin

@Proud African

cowardly act is nothing to be proud off brother.

Posted November 28, 2013 3:23 pm 


matt

Floyd Sr and Roger Mayweather both predicted that Brandon Rios will whoop Pacquiao *ss, after the fight Rios is a bum.

Posted November 28, 2013 3:20 pm 


Proud African

Why should Mayweather always have to fight this and that personality, and Pac does not have to go through the same thread mill? Pac should fight Canelo and GGG.

Posted November 28, 2013 3:13 pm 


REM

Oh my boy Collazo is about to expose another pretender and get robbed on the cards.

Posted November 28, 2013 3:11 pm 


Anonymous

public enemy is right. canelo rios and seventy percent of the rest of them are HYPE JOBS.

Posted November 28, 2013 3:10 pm 


Hecdog

PEEJ, you’re underestimating Manny Pacquiao like others are, and if they fight, you will be more than shocked at how Manny Pacquiao beats him. Every fighter that fights Manny says the same things. He’s faster, stronger, more deceptive than I thought. The southpaw style only adds to his fierce fighting style. Floyd has fought fast and strong fighters, but none can match Manny in those areas. Marquez himself says that Manny is faster and stronger than Floyd. Speed changes everything in a fight especially for a guy like Floyd that has always had those advantages. He’ll have to eventually fight, and that will be his downfall. Manny is the better boxer and counter puncher. Yes, he’s better. This is a legend that has proven his greatness over and over. Floyd has had his way in his fights even though he lost to Castillo and Oscar IMO. Manny will throw off Floyd from round one. My prediction, Manny wins a UD and drops Floyd on the way to it. Trust me on this. The world will finally se the greatness of Manny Pacquiao. Trust me on this PEEJ.

Posted November 28, 2013 3:07 pm 


PEEJ

The fight will not happen. Arum does not want the fight to happen because he knows Pac gets toyed with. Its one thing to be KOd in a fight he was up on the score cards but it is another thing to be beaten for 12 rounds. And Arum knows this

Posted November 28, 2013 2:55 pm 


TARK

Why can’t the fight be done May 3rd??? Why screw the fight up again just when interest is starting to peak again?

Khan isn’t a viable or interesting opponent for Mayweather — and there’re not many “super safe” opponents out there for Pacquiao who could pull like Brando Rios.

Pac could fight Kell Brook in England and that would draw some worldwide interest. So, I guess the way they want to do it is Floyd fight a “gimme” fight with Khan, and Pac fight another tune-up bout. Then fight in September. Or why not push it off to 2015 and get more chicken fat on it? This is beginning to be like Lewis vs Tyson. Or maybe Holmes vs Foreman—two ATG heavyweight champs of similar age, who both fought for more than 30 years but never met—except to awkwardly say hello.

The promoters are creating a bigger possibility May-Pac will never be made. The biggest upsets in Boxing history were “gimme” fights. Remember the tune-up defense Zab Judah had versus Carlos Baldomir in advance of his Mayweather fight? It didn’t prevent May-Zab, but it sure lowered the temperature. That’s what they’re risking here … again.

Posted November 28, 2013 2:44 pm 


TOO SMOOTH

Nothing to see here people, move along!

Posted November 28, 2013 2:03 pm 


PEEJ

Also Hecdog it is Pac and company who have come up with excuses. Plain and simple.

Posted November 28, 2013 1:58 pm 


PEEJ

You know zero Hecdog, you are just a Pac fan. He holds zero cards. It is like he is sitting at the table and they don’t even bother dealing him in. That is how many cards he holds. Sorry bro but he is at Floyds table, his cards, and his negotiations. If he doesn’t agree to Floyds terms then it is obvious he does not want to fight because Floyd agreed to all his terms in the first round and they didn’t want to sign

Posted November 28, 2013 1:57 pm 


Hecdog

Manny Pacquiao holds all the cards, and should request the bigger piece of the pie. Manny is the sell. It’s none of Mayweather’s business who promotes Manny Pacquiao. He needs to get over himself and any hatred he has for Arum/Top Rank. Fans want to see a fight in the ring, not in the media. We’re all tired of the ludicrous reasons Floyd continues to come up with. This is about a Mega Fight that has already lost it’s lust, but can still be very exciting and competitive. The real reason is Floyd Mayweather cannot fathom a loss in his career. He is well aware of Manny Pacquiao being the faster, stronger, more athletic, more intelligent all around fighter. He is simply afraid to risk losing a fight against the greatest fighter of our time and arguably the greatest ever. And it’s not about money either. Manny can make plenty of money without Floyd regardless of who he fights. Manny has corporations paying him millions. Let’s see, Nike, Hennessy, Monster Energy Drink, Hewlett Packard, San Miguel Beer, Pistachios, Albertsons and Philippines TV Rights. Even with Manny’s potential tax problems, he will be more than just well off. Manny doesn’t need money, all he has been asking for is a fight with Floyd Mayweather. And after watching Manny’s commanding, exciting, impressive, incredible masterful fight against Brandon Rios, Floyd will only run away faster. Once again, the fact is Floyd is scared to fight the legendary only division boxing champion in history. Let’s fantasize that they fought. Manny’s would stop Floyd in the later rounds, and win in stunning fashion. The very first thing that would need to happen is to send all law enforcement to patrol all bridges and put out an APB for Floyd Mayweather. Floyd could never live with himself if he were to lose. Manny Pacquiao puts fear in him like no other. Manny is the best.

Posted November 28, 2013 1:47 pm 


Eye of the tiger

That’s all it is: talk.

Posted November 28, 2013 1:46 pm 


PEEJ

Like I said because of all the advertising they did for the fight. They where doing shows on just Floyd with nothing to do with Guerrero. Either way he sold mil in PPVs and that is a success in itself. Pac can’t do that unless he has a good B side.

Posted November 28, 2013 1:41 pm 


REM

Reports were Showtime lost 12 mil for Floyd v Guerrero ROTF….

Posted November 28, 2013 1:39 pm 


PEEJ

Floyd sold a mil against Guerrero, it was only a flop because of all the advertising showtime did for Floyd. Other than that selling a mil against someone who has no fan base is pretty dang good

Posted November 28, 2013 1:33 pm 


REM

Fellas everyone outside of the bubble know Floyd v Guerrero flopped. Garcia doesn’t want the fight who’s gonna sell a mil ppvs Kahn, Alexander, Thurman ROTF.. At this point lets just watch Showtime grovat Arums feet forget the fight Showtime and Floyd are gonna be a great fight with the money they guaranteed him ha ha

Posted November 28, 2013 1:29 pm 


The Garbageman

Bet they don’t post the Pac vs Rios PPV numbers. They stopped doing it a while ago when they determined that Floyd sold more and they where using that as leverage to show they deserved a bigger piece of the pie.

Posted November 28, 2013 1:27 pm 


Two Piece

BTW, does fat Dan ” Top Stink” Ritief have the PPV nos for Pac vs Rios.

Posted November 28, 2013 1:23 pm 


Two Piece

Hidalgo – if Floyd is all about the money, what is Manny about?

Posted November 28, 2013 1:20 pm 


Two Piece

Bible & Voice of boxing – Did Mayweather say who his fighting next?

Posted November 28, 2013 1:18 pm 


Mex

PE ..Cotto will get k.o by Canelo…and right now correct me if I’m wrong but PR has no belt holders or a hype job….

Posted November 28, 2013 12:52 pm 


Tomato Can

I agree both Pac and Mayweather can finish their careers without one another. But as it stands, I highly doubt Paquiao/Arum will be the ones in the drivers seat come negotiation time. And if they think they are as some suggest here, we can once again kiss this fight good bye…

Posted November 28, 2013 12:51 pm 


Mayweather vs. Pacquiao = Epic Fight

Bob Arum should take Showtime’s offer. No need to involve HBO, they’re just holding the deal back. If Top Rank is serious about making the deal they’ll take Showtime’s offer.

Posted November 28, 2013 12:50 pm 


The Garbageman

Pac has no leverage. Has to agree to what Floyd wants. And we all see you are the fake PEEJ. He has been posting on this site for years. You should just get your own name, not hard to think of one.

Posted November 28, 2013 12:44 pm 


PEEJ

Pacs record does not amount to Floyds, saying it does not make it true. Neither need each other. They are already both great fighters. Floyd just happens to be the greatest of his generation.

Posted November 28, 2013 12:43 pm 


PEEJ

Using my screen name does not fool anyone. Your previous posts lack so much boxing knowledge everyone knows you are fake.

Posted November 28, 2013 12:29 pm 


Who cares

50% for each or no fight…Floyd still makes more money than with anybody else…

Posted November 28, 2013 12:24 pm 


Who cares

Floyd needs this fight for his legacy, not Pacquiao. Pac has as much as leverage as Floyd. It doesn’t matter he lost, he is the more exciting, flashy fighter and an international superstar…

Posted November 28, 2013 12:22 pm 


PEEJ

Pac has no leverage in this fight. Sorry but after losing 2 or his last 3 fights, PPV sells not looking great, ticket sells not being that great. Sorry but they have no leverage. The fight is gonna be here in the states. Manny really doesn’t have to adjust much to the time zone because he is here so often and he trains out of Roaches gym. And Pac has already stated he wants to fight back here in the states. Unfortunately he has to let Floyd run the negotiations or the fight won’t happen. And from what Arum has been saying, he doesn’t want the fight to take place.

Posted November 28, 2013 12:19 pm 


BEARS

pubic enema just called canelo a hype job!

what a dummy dude. to say the 23 year old kid canelo is a hype job. what can not be hyped is pubic enema’s quality as an east side poster. dudes a schmuck.

Posted November 28, 2013 12:16 pm 


Hidalgo

I’d like to see the fight made in Macau. Manny has always done the international travel for his fights while Floyd has remained at home. It’s tough for a boxer to acclimate to time zone change. Floyd has never made this sacrifice.

But expecting Bob Arum to not make any demands in Pacquiao’s behalf is ridiculous. Of course Manny can make some demands. First of all, this is a fight that the majority of the boxing world and fans wants to see. Second, Manny has a huge international following. It’s these two guys in the ring together–and no one else–who can bust all previous viewing and paying records. So Arum does have leverage to make demands, and you can bet ShowTime will be flexing its influential muscle as well.

Mayweather vs Pacquiao is the fight almost everyone wants to see–not Mayweather/Khan, or Mayweather/Alvarez. Floyd is all about money. This is the fight that will give him the biggest purse he’s ever earned. That’s a lot of negotiating leverage in itself.

Posted November 28, 2013 12:11 pm 


Who cares

Manny does not need Floyd, he should fight other good TR opposition and just have a few more fights to make good (almost) equal money. Let’s face it, Mayweather is an lowlife, so are his father, his entourage and many of his supporters. They are crooks manipulating the system. Frankly, Floyd does not deserve to fight a fighter of Manny’s caliber. Floyd go fight Canelo again, or Guerrero or Ortiz, or just fight Kahn, maybe ODH makes a return, that would be a perfect fight for you…

Posted November 28, 2013 12:11 pm 


CurlyQ.Howard

At this point, I really don’t see how Arum and Pacquiao have any leverage for a fight with Floyd. Perhaps I’m wrong, but I believe that Floyd is in a position to dictate conditions – more or less this: take it or leave it.; I don’t need you, Manny. And yes, I would like to see the match made even at this point of their respective careers.

Posted November 28, 2013 12:04 pm 


PEEJ

Sorry but I will be eating to much when I get off of work at 4. Central Standard Time.

Posted November 28, 2013 12:03 pm 


Tomato Can

Happy Thanksgiving, to those who celebrate it, don’t eat too much today…

Posted November 28, 2013 11:54 am 


te tumbo

PEEJ, co-sign!

Posted November 28, 2013 11:48 am 


te tumbo

meanwhile, just watch Team Pacquiao* desperately negotiate some type of exotic condition to somehow level the playing-field in what promises to be an anticlimactic mismatch in favor of Floyd. i know: Floyd can only win by UD. any other outcome must be “officially” considered a “Draw” or “W” for Manny*. whatever it is, it couldn’t be any less absurd if the goal is to contrive a “W” for Pacquiao*. he simply has No Chance v. #1 P4P “Money-May”.

Posted November 28, 2013 11:48 am 


PEEJ

If Arum asks for the bigger purse it would show he is not interested in the fight, if he tries to demand anything, it just proves he is not interested in the fight. If they try to say HBO has to be apart of it, it shows they are not interested in the fight.

Posted November 28, 2013 11:47 am 


te tumbo

Cotto is irrelevant beyond being a juicy cherry for prime fighters to pluck. bottomline, we all anticipate Cotto will lose v. every elite opponent. particularly at 154lbs where Cotto is NOT elite. he’ll be fed to Canelo, which will complete the elimination of Rican boxing at ANY level. No more champions; No more title-contenders; No commemorative Name for Ricans to get sentimental about; No More “rivalry”. 20Trece will be remembered as the year that all of that came to a decisive End.

Posted November 28, 2013 11:41 am 


Tomato Can

REM: “With the position Floyd and Showtime are in if I was Arum I’d be a prick now and demand the bigger portion of the purse from Floyd.” LOL you’re already giving Arum slack to do whatever he wants. Why’s that??? Arum’s already been a prick 10 fold. Unfortunately, Arum and Pac have no leverage, which is exactly why as soon as the Rios fight was over, they started bringing up Mayweather again… This is nothing more than a ploy, to coax the fans into accepting whatever his next move is, which will be yet another all Top Rank fight for Pacquiao, who knows maybe Alvarado will be next…

Posted November 28, 2013 11:39 am 


Boxer

Yo public enemy is that what you truly think? that a fight with cotto is the biggest money either man could make?, my man you know that’s not true! Caus your buddy what did you call him freckle face, chucky anyway that guy is where the money fight is for anyone! Including cotto remember my man cotto vs money did ok, but Canelo vs Floyd did great!

Posted November 28, 2013 11:30 am 


PEEJ

Not gonna happen with Top Rank in the picture. Just like it was very easy to make a fight between Floyd and Cotto once Cotto left Top Rank, same thing would occur with Pac. Would be very easy to make the fight.

Posted November 28, 2013 11:20 am 


skinnysteve

the fight should be at 154 after pacquiao defeats guerro and alvarez let him earn his shot money split 30-70 floyd

Posted November 28, 2013 11:15 am 


REM

With the position Floyd and Showtime are in if I was Arum I’d be a prick now and demand the bigger portion of the purse from Floyd. Seems like Showtime owns Floyd now with him asking for Kahn and being made to fight Canelo and now Pac. Garcia doesn’t want to fight Floyd and he’s the only eligible fighter that Floyd might do a mil. buys with oh how the tide has changed.

Posted November 28, 2013 11:08 am 


PEEJ

Can’t see this fight happening because once again Arum is in the picture. Arum has stated that HBO is going to be apart of the fight, Showtime has already stated it has to be a Showtime PPV. Pac has no contract with HBO so HBO should not be apart of this promotion. If Arum maintains this then it is another way of him killing the fight. But this is normal for Bob because he has already killed it a few times.

Posted November 28, 2013 10:45 am 


Anonymous

the soppy yanks would still pay to watch these two when their both fifty.

Posted November 28, 2013 10:44 am 


electrician

It WONT HAPPEN…

Posted November 28, 2013 10:21 am 


The Bible & Voice of Boxing

This fight will never happen. First The Makeweathers claimed Manny was draining fighters or has beens; then they said he was on PEDS. They also claimed he was facing Floyd’s leftovers. Then they offered him dumb money….the list of excuses went on and on.
Now Sr. Makeweather is claiming Manny has to face Guerrero and Canelo beore he can face Floyd. Now if you claimed in the past he was facing Floyd’s leftovers, why insist he faces two more now? Then you will say he is only beating Floyd’s leftovers. In other words, you are asking him to create a built in excuse for you.
What the Makeweathers and fans conveniently forget to say is that Floyd also has fought Manny’s leftovers in Marquez, whom they made come up and then deliberately did not make his own weight. Cotto was also a Manny leftover and Manny destroyed him while Floyd had some struggles. And of course, Floyd completely avoided Margarito and Williams etc each time he retired.
Floyd now wants to face Khan. Khan is a fighter whose chin never met a punch it could resist. And they have the nerve to demand that Manny the 2nd biggest PPV and box office star in the US and #1 outside the US by a wide margin, must bow to them? If they fought in Asia Manny is by far the biggest star. And if Arum is smart he should not go begging for a fight; instead stay where Manny pays no taxes. I do not mean the Phillipines because apparently, the dumbazz is not paying them anyway.
I am not saying Manny will beat Floyd. Clearly, Floyd is a solid favourite but to keep making dumb excuses is so lame. Either agree to face Manny or stop facing lesser fighters or making dumb demands on Manny. Ali, Frazier, Foreman. Duran, Chavez, Leonard, Hearns and Hagler to name a few, would have cut off an arm and fought with one just to get at an arch rival and make buckets of money. These two bozos let their fans talk for them while not facing each other.
There may be four boxing organizations but there can only one best of this era. And witrhout squaring off, there will be debates for years. This is how selfish these two dumbazzes are. As a boxing fan, I will never pay a penny to see either fight again.

Posted November 28, 2013 8:36 am 


pissedawthetime

Bob Arum. Bag of viagra. Four Top Rank girls. Let him go out with a smile on his face.

Posted November 28, 2013 6:53 am 


ChingChow

Think some of you are forgetting that Arum is a Jew: nothing he says or does can be trusted. This fight will never happen with that Jewish mobster around. But he will ride Floyds name ad infinitum.

Posted November 28, 2013 6:53 am 


SeanieP

Fight will never happen its old news now and mayweather has never wanted the fight to take place, because he knows pac is the one man out their who can beat him.

Posted November 28, 2013 6:46 am 


Ray Ray

Hookoffthejab-ha ha ha i no. How is manny getting a split decision when Floyd now has all the aces? Like oscar did when fought Floyd? He had the deck in his favour and still didnt win….anyways this is a waste of time. Arum is in a worse corner than manny would b in if this fight went ahead. Ring size, glove size, referee, weight class, how much and where? Thats what u get when ou have a zero near your name, when you r the highest paid and most watcged ppv’ fighter in the history of the sport?

Posted November 28, 2013 5:53 am 


hookoffthejab

Old Coot

I’ll make mine now… Manny by Split or Unanimous Decision!!
Posted November 28, 2013 2:56 am

yeah yeah yeah ……..And after the fight when Manny is handed his @zz you will disappear faster than you appeared on these boards ….

Posted November 28, 2013 5:44 am 


Ray Ray

Old coot-been drinking the old sauce? Floyd couldnt beat u? Interesting….il do u a deal if on the 2% chance they fight il have a G on it with u? Wire tranfer/bankcheck sent 2 wherever…..u name method?

Posted November 28, 2013 5:38 am 


Ghetto Thug

Im tired of being sick and tired of all this BS

Posted November 28, 2013 5:12 am 


Old Coot

I’ll make mine now… Manny by Split or Unanimous Decision!!

Posted November 28, 2013 2:56 am 


Tomato Can

Here we go, with the Mayweather/PAC sweepstakes all over again.:. when the fight is signed and delivered let me, and I’ll give my prediction without hesitation!!!

Posted November 28, 2013 2:46 am 


Old Coot

Floyd, couldn’t hurt or beat me… Much less Manny!

Posted November 28, 2013 2:35 am 


Anonymous

Raymond don’t want to see it because he love pacman and Floyd too, he don’t have the balls, rather his balls are too small to have Floyd fight manny as he afraid manny will get hurt and lose.

Posted November 28, 2013 2:23 am 


Old Coot

I told ya’ll Shobox and Hbo would try to make this happen… They did it for Tyson-Lewis… And this will be bigger and way more lucrative. And some of actually are trying to think Floyd shouldn’t fight Manny? Although it’s the ONE fight that literally the world, including Pac hating Floydiacs and Floydiots wants to see? I

Posted November 28, 2013 2:16 am 


Two Piece

Somebody please assasinate Arum and we might see Floyd fight Bradley, Pac, Garcia & Broner in his last 4 fights or settle for Khan, Garcia, Broner & Cotto2.

Posted November 28, 2013 1:54 am 


Anonymous

Floyd was the greatest fighter of the 2000 -2014 he was the best. A ATG. great no one could touch him
Wasn’t fast manny pacquiao fighters of 2003-2004 and fought till 2014? Floyd was retired then. “You lie ” He did tried to set up a fight but skinny manny is a steroids user, we don’t want to get brain damage, so no way we don’t fight steroids uses even as we had no proof he used it it was because he was a hard hitte. ” you lie” LOL Floyd history.

Posted November 28, 2013 1:51 am 


Anonymous

Why I want to see it it happen? I wasted 5 years waiting for this fight and the up and down. And talk and talk and run around, I just want this to end, manny lose ok floyd lose ok. Its about they pulling our leg all this time, just. Let it happen and be done about it.But both has ego as big as a house.

Posted November 28, 2013 1:32 am 


Ray Ray

Brandon st Fairy- nothing 2 add so picks others opinions? Go away u flee. Anonymous i agree id love 2 c it iv just heard all this 4 yrs as has you…..iv more than got my doubts.

Posted November 28, 2013 1:28 am 


Anonymous

Let the fight happen it now or never, you want to watch this fight in two year after they are both old men. No now the time, closer whoever win is the better fighters. Tell who it’s there else, Floyd want to try GGG or Sergio? you want to see Floyd fight kan? Let fight

Posted November 28, 2013 1:25 am 


Ray Ray

So Basically if Manny vs Floyd is 2 heppen both guys will b having a tune up b4 they meet? Instead of fighting Garcia/ Bradley ha ha ha. If 1 of them loses fight off? Use your heads this is a pure hype article. Only way this fight happens is if Manny leaves toprank, whens he off contract? Does anybody no? What happen 2 the last guy that wanted out of a toprank contract? (Gamboa). Or Floydcould resign with toprank giving Arum extra millions instead of pocketing coin himself….every time i read about these 2 its laughable……Arum 2 Floyd ‘ Yes that ring an glove size is fine. Yes that referee and those judges r fine. Yes u get 50mil manny gets 20mil. Yes the fight can b at jr middle? I want the drugs that any person who still thinks this is going ahead is on….it must b some good stuff. Only other way this happens is if Arum isnt breathing.

Posted November 28, 2013 1:21 am 


big moe

3 promoters trying to split profits? No way. Arum isnt into profit sharing as he told floyd when he wanted to fight oscar. and if so, who will be the lead promoter? Arum will squeeze every last ounce of juice out of pac and throw him to the dogs. Unless pac resigns with arum at the end of next year.

Posted November 28, 2013 1:20 am 


murderman

That was cute! Lol

Posted November 28, 2013 1:19 am 


murderman

Now way bob lets floyd call the shots and make the fight happen on floyds term!

Posted November 28, 2013 1:08 am 


Ray Ray

No there not….dont listen 2 this. This is just a hype job 2 get every1 commenting on this rubbish storey…what weight? At jr middle Floyd will run rings around manny…Rios isnt Floyd. Fighting a guy in cement boots 2 weight classes below is not good preperation. Floyd holds all the cards. He will pic the ring size glove size venue and take 60/40 of the purse….u are all dumb if u think Arum is going 2 let Floyd completly have his way…..next.

Posted November 28, 2013 12:55 am 


murderman

Manny vs floyd? Sure hopes so finally! However i wont beleive til they are actually in the ring fighting each other!

Posted November 28, 2013 12:39 am 


murderman

Manny vs floyd? Ill beleive it when i see it!

Posted November 28, 2013 12:33 am 


Mma fighter

The excuses are going to start and drug test

Posted November 28, 2013 12:32 am 


H

thanks for the quote.

Posted November 28, 2013 12:29 am 



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