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chandra

pac beat Bradly the first fight very easily , only donkey or a jackass can not see that – and no doubt he will beat him again -

Posted March 1, 2014 1:50 pm 


TARK

Hec Dog.., May-Pac will happen. They want to get a little more chicken fat on it … I guess they don’t think it’s ripe yet.

Posted December 6, 2013 1:24 pm 


Two Piece

Chicago Guy/HecDog – PPV for Pac vs Rios = 300K. Floyd is not fighting Khan. Stop grasping at straws.

Posted December 6, 2013 4:50 am 


Auzbox

The fight has to happen or everytime fmw does an interview when he is finished he will be asked of manny

Posted December 5, 2013 7:08 pm 


Hec Dog

Tark my friend, Ali was boxing back then. Sure Leon wasn’t the best, but he was an Olympic Champion as was Michael. Leon had good skills, and had almost 200 amateur fights. He may not have been the best, but he did beat Ali. Khan on the other hand hasn’t done anything to deserve this fight. The whole fight is a sham. Floyd is counting on Khan’s fan base to make tons of money, but the fight itself will be boring and predictable. Khan is a good amateur. His style will will get picked apart and Khan will be stopped. Tark, I’m still waiting for the Floyd vs Manny fight you said would happen. Do you still think it will?

Posted December 5, 2013 6:18 pm 


AFFLICTION

ESB imposters = Public Enemy..

Posted December 5, 2013 5:53 pm 


The Bible & Voice of Boxing

Tark, Ali was wrong for facing Spinks too. He faced outrage for that fight. To be fair, Ali was on his last legs and people suspected he wanted to intentionally lose to Spinks so he could easily win it back and create history. I know that was what I felt.

Posted December 5, 2013 5:20 pm 


BingM3

PAC DOES, Its the PRIMA DONNA who doesn’t — what a queer!

Posted December 5, 2013 4:54 pm 


Da UnKnown Comic

I know nobody is going to understand this but—- Floyd respects the fans. I’ve seen in at pressers and he wouldn’t leave for like 2 hours until he signed everybody’s stuff. Mosley, Cotto would leave hours earlier. pacquiao’s respect seems orchestrated and just for the camera. It’s funny how cool Floyd is when the camera is NOT around. Manny just does what arum and koncz tell him to do. A puppet in other words.

Posted December 5, 2013 4:38 pm 


B Red

Hecdog, you a fool, and the number 1 pactard on the planet, You love Manny more than Jinkee does, hahahaha

Posted December 5, 2013 4:29 pm 


TARK

Hec Dog.., I Ali could fight Leon Spinks (6-0-1) instead of Larry Holmes—why can’t Mayweather fight Amir Khan instead of Danny Garcia?

Posted December 5, 2013 4:15 pm 


Hec Dog

Floyd Mayweather should be ashamed to ever step into a boxing ring again if the rumor is true that he ha signed to fight Amir Khan. Floyd is laughing his way to the bank over and over. The man is either the greediest man on earth or he’s extremely fearful to even take a chance on losing his flawed, and I mean flawed unbeaten record. His own boxing peers criticize him. Floyd is making a fool of all those that are willing to pay a dime to see this farce of a fight. Amir Khan seem to be a nice guy that has a real false sense of how good he really is. We all know his chin will always fail him. Maidana had him all but out, Peterson cracked him as well as Danny Garcia. Khan is an over hyped good amateur boxer that belongs in the amateurs. He has done nothing to deserve this fight. The ONLY reason this fight is happening is because Khan has a lot of fan that also have a false sense of how good Khan is. And I guess if your a die hard fan, you will always look at things more emotionally rather than rationally, but the truth is Floyd is showing his true colors. He’ s not interested in being the best. He’s only interested in what he always says, Money, Money, Money. He will continue to tarnish his reputation and his legacy as a boxer. Regardless of what he says, his courage and heart of a true boxing champion will always be questioned by true boxing fans. Floyd has a lot of talent, but he’snot willing to take risks. And because of this, Floyd will not stand next to great, honorable combatants like Duran, Robinson, Armstrong, Holmes, Ali, Pacquiao, Sanchez, Chavez and many other greats. These guys fought, and never avoided their toughest challengers that the fans wanted. They took chances and didn’t always win, but a champion takes the risk of losing rather then not taking a risk at all. The asterisk will always be there. Floyd Mayweather never took the risk. Even his most loyal fans have to be questioning Khan as an opponent. Other than riding others fan base for money, what’the point of this fight?

Posted December 5, 2013 2:36 pm 


Tomato Can Stan

tomain – I don’t think that’s the real te tumbo. There’s been an impostor around as of late. In fact, I suspect its “Anomymous”, as he makes silly comments as well

Posted December 5, 2013 1:13 pm 


Anonymous

LMFAO

Posted December 5, 2013 1:01 pm 


Dr. Tomain

te tumbo should be banned from ESB for his racism. It is sickening. Make me want to puke up the poisoned bean tamales I had last night at Taco Bell

Posted December 5, 2013 1:01 pm 


Tomato Can Stan

decision – “but even I don’t see a Pacman good enough for Bradley”. Pacquiao defeated Bradley. That was a robbery

Posted December 5, 2013 12:31 pm 


Decision

So most people on this thread, see Manny on top of his game, a tiger in the ring, just like 2-3 years ago. Interesting.

Many people dislike Mayweather, eventhough it was said that the Ghost was dangerous, he outboxed the Ghost, Canelo was too big for him -he outboxed Canelo.

I am fan of Pacman, but even I don’t see a Pacman good enough for Bradley, much less Mayweather.

Why would anyone believe that Manny is in his prime now, a prime he needs against Mayweather.

I think that Bradley has the best chance of beating Mayweather, Money would of course be the favorite, due to his experience.

Posted December 5, 2013 12:04 pm 


MJames

Tomato Can Stan – damn right brother. I just hope it’s all hype and Floyd surprises everyone and picks Ruslan. Khan is a total joke.

Posted December 5, 2013 11:28 am 


Tomato Can Stan

MJames – And the Mayweather camp has the nerve to say that Pacquiao needs another Bradley fight, but they’ll give a much less quality fighter a shot right away

Posted December 5, 2013 11:04 am 


SREDMOND

Hey guys, I’m sorry about all my trash talk about the Klitschkos. I’m starting to see the light. The Klitschkos are real class acts, unlike that dull mother*cker Lewis. Gosh, Lewis was an abysmal commentator, didn’t seem too bright. I noticed he didn’t last too long. Roy Jones is much more insightful. Lewis turned down a mega payday because he didn’t want to face the nightmare of Vitali again. I’m finally coming around. Thanks guys !

Posted December 5, 2013 10:27 am 


MJames

Khan is a joke. He doesn’t deserve a shot at Floyd and knows he will get beaten by Money Man. He doesn’t even care. He just wants a retirement pay day. He will quit the sport after collecting his Floyd money, it’s a disgrace that he’s even being lined up for the fight. If this fight happens it will be an insult to boxing fans. Khan is a b-level fighter, and he’s already been exposed. How crazy is boxing that this clown is getting a shot at the P4P king? 

Posted December 5, 2013 8:33 am 


MJames

If Khan gets a shot at FMJ I will lose all interest in Floyd, his legacy will be wrecked. Khan is a joke and just wants a retirement pay day.

Posted December 5, 2013 6:57 am 


Two Piece

WTF does the HBO crew know?

Posted December 5, 2013 2:56 am 


Hidalgo

““Where did you get this info, Peej?”

From my ass.

LMAO!

Posted December 5, 2013 12:43 am 


TARK

The HBO crew was in agreement that Oscar was blowing his lead.

Posted December 5, 2013 12:37 am 


TARK

BS…, You don’t win fights by running… Coasting my ass. You’re not coasting when you’re running the 100-meter dash in backwards circles.

The only running seen like that was Amir Khan after Danny nailed him.

Posted December 5, 2013 12:35 am 


SREDMOND

All the vitriol hurled at Oscar for coasting on what should have been a HUGE Lead IS OVERBLOWN De La Hoya made Trinidad look just like Winky Wright did before Winky Wright did it… That was a GIFT, Trinidad was not even competitive, walking around the ring and eating crisp jabs and left hooks… ODH might have turned some off but he sure as hell shoulda got that decision..

Posted December 4, 2013 11:57 pm 


PEEJ

I do buy them if I can afford it. When I can’t I go watch them at a friends spot. Just pointing out that Floyd sells more PPVs. Rios has a bigger fan base than Guerrero and that sold a mil

Posted December 4, 2013 11:02 pm 


TARK

Te Tumbo…, I didn’t dismiss Gil Clancy… I said Clancy told Oscar to box… Not run.

Oscar didn’t listen or he would have won.

Posted December 4, 2013 10:47 pm 


Hidalgo

Peej, who really gives a flying rat’s azz about who has the most PPV’s between Pac and May? They’re the only two guys that need to be concerned about that. If you like a fight buy it, if you don’t, don’t.

Posted December 4, 2013 10:33 pm 


Hidalgo

“The only guy I ever saw run like a coward was De La Hoya in the last round of the Trinidad fight… ”

The “only” guy? Get real.

Posted December 4, 2013 10:30 pm 


Hidalgo

“Less than 500 thousand buys. Wow”

Where did you get this info, Peej?

Posted December 4, 2013 10:29 pm 


Auzbox

500 thou cause they thought he was shot now they know he back guarantee 1 mill next fight and he will fight a credible opponent not a khan muppet

Posted December 4, 2013 10:15 pm 


PEEJ

Less than 500 thousand buys. Wow

Posted December 4, 2013 10:09 pm 


Auzbox

Pacman running peej don’t kid yourself why doesn’t he call him out next week, cause he is to hard he will pick khan and everyone can have a laugh

Posted December 4, 2013 9:30 pm 


SUP YALL

I vote for Pacquioa becoming A FREE AGENT as well! So we can get on with these fights.

Posted December 4, 2013 9:25 pm 


Floyd Xylocaine Mayweather

Floyd Man up and fight for once without juicing on Xylocaine and we will see what u made of.
Why do you need to numb ur hands? coz u can’t take the pain?????

Posted December 4, 2013 8:54 pm 


Floyd Xylocaine Mayweather

By even juicing on Xylocaine, Floyd can’t give her fans an exicting fight.

what a shame.

Posted December 4, 2013 8:50 pm 


PEEJ

Like I said one has been apart of more PPVs than tge other but yet the other has sold more. It’s called economics. Pac keeps running from Floyd taking the easy way out cause they know they can’t beat him.

Posted December 4, 2013 8:31 pm 


lol

Ignorance it bliss for Floydiots… How quickly you forget the warrant from the IRS for Floyd’s tax evading ass in 2007! Floyd intentionally evaded his!! And he knew better!! LOL!!

Posted December 4, 2013 8:30 pm 


mexican radio

Sugar ray would have whooped mayweather

Posted December 4, 2013 8:27 pm 


reneebay

duckweather fans can’t deny the facts

Posted December 4, 2013 8:26 pm 


TJ

The only guy I ever saw run like a coward was De La Hoya in the last round of the Trinidad fight…

Posted December 4, 2013 8:25 pm 


Goz

Floyd hasn’t been exciting since fatton

Posted December 4, 2013 8:23 pm 


-

Floyd couldn’t knock rios out if his life depended on it

Posted December 4, 2013 8:23 pm 


te tumbo

TARK, it doesn’t get any worse than endorsing the HBO mushmouth crew while dismissing Gil Clancy’s obvious satisfaction with DLH’s performance. just compare respective corners: a calm and confident DLH corner v. a frantic and increasingly desperate Trinidud corner. it shouldn’t have been a difficult bout to score: you land more clean punches; you do more damage; you land at a higher pecentage; that’s pretty basic stuff. anyone with 20/20 vision and a brain should be able to handle it. although, no disrespect to those who do not posses these fight-scoring capabilities.

Posted December 4, 2013 8:18 pm 


Auzbox

And TUMBO how did you want manny to fight rios? You don’t slug with a slugger if you are not. Floyd couldn’t knock rios out if his life depended on it so don’t expect manny to

Posted December 4, 2013 8:05 pm 


Auzbox

Voice of boxing has it right 100 perc

Posted December 4, 2013 7:56 pm 


The Voice of Boxng

To those that feel a dominant champ does not have to face a tough challenger you listening Tark?), a dominant champ can’t stay forever and fight everyone. No matter what, he will miss one or two guys because it is impossible to face them all. Ali for example used to fight 3-4 times a year and people still say he ducked some fighters.
The truth is that Manny and Floyd get called out a lot because you get 3-5 times your regular pay. But this does not give a champ the right to face bums and avoid facing the best guys.Rios and Alvarado are not super stars but after so many tough matches they deserve a rest or a softie. As a champ, you have a title to defend and owe it to fans to defend it against the very best.
I do understand it is a business and boxers are entitled to make some $. I have no problem in facing the guy who can bring the most $ if two guys are basically equal, but he has to later face the other guy. I hate to hear them say, he is not a PPV star. But Pac and Money are both mega stars and have styles that blend to crossover and bring in hue $. It is possible because they both make so much $ on their own, that they do not want to lose to the other and fall down the $ pole.
Of course fans will defend their man but then apart from blind faith in their man, why was this fight not made? We have heard dumb excuses from the fighters and promoters. We have heard dumb demands too. We have seen greedy offers that only a fool would sign and I am talking about both sides.
Yet fans continue to defend their man and blame the other party for the fight not happening. Look in the mirror fools. Keep buying their PPV’s and they will laugh and take your $. I have not bought one since the 1st negotiations broke off in 09. Until fans make this stand they will never care and make the fight. Instead we get more fighting, jabs and defence between fans than we will ever get from the two greedy parties.

Posted December 4, 2013 7:53 pm 


Auzbox

Floyd hasn’t been exciting since hatton, you say one thing about manny then the exact opposite about floyd, you will have to swallow the pill that they are the best two until may say decides to make it #1

Posted December 4, 2013 7:51 pm 


TARK

The only guy I ever saw run like a coward was De La Hoya in the last round of the Trinidad fight… The fans filled the arena with boos and the HBO crew said, “There’s boxing and there’s running… This is running.” … That was an experienced broadcasting crew talking.

The HBO crew all thought Oscar blew his lead and blew the fight… Don’t give me the Gil Clancey story… Gil told Oscar to box … not run.

Pacquiao wasn’t running… He won all 12 rounds over a 31-1-1 opponent by boxing smartly… attacking at times… being alert at all times… and never being reckless for a single split-instant.

Rios fought Pacquiao a lot better than Oscar De La Hoya did… At least he didn’t quit in his corner because he was getting the SBO of him.

Posted December 4, 2013 7:40 pm 


Floyd Xylocaine Mayweather

50 Cent Said Floyd Missed Out On $100 Mil For “Ducking” Pacquiao

Posted December 4, 2013 7:33 pm 


The Voice of Boxng

Why do fans have to take one side of the argument? It makes no difference. This is a fight that would be the biggest ever and instead of fans just demanding it, they argue about what one fighter should make or who is using whose name to sell tickets as if they have not used that over and over.
Whenever one of them fights they are either asked by writers about the other and they use that opportunity to hype that imaginary fight. You never hear them telling their promoter, get me that fight. I am tired of hearing talk about that fight. It will never happen.
Before each guy fights and after they fight, fans start the same old stories about one guy being scared and making excuses for the one they prefer. This is no different than debating who would win between Ali and Louis or Marciano. We know those fights can’t happen and neither will this. I am not interested in it anymore. As Tyson says, I prefer to watch Manny as he is more willing to throw combos and take chances. Floyd obviously is the better tactician and skilled but Manny has or should I say, had the warrior mentality. Floyd has to be the favourite but styles make fights. That’s all I care to say. I have no interest in seeing them today because neither is what they were in 09-10. I will never pay to see either and wish fans would just cut arguing and start boycotting their fights. Eventually they would have to face off. Simple!

Posted December 4, 2013 7:32 pm 


te tumbo

“Ran like a coward you say tumbo, what’s mayweather do/” AUZBOX, that’s a conflict for You to reconcile. after all, it’s Pacquiao’s* fanboys who constantly cite and make negative comparisons between Floyd’s “boring” and “cowardly” style v. Manny’s* “exciting” and “crowd-pleasing” one. make up Your mind about this conflict so that we can all finally understand WTF are you Pacquiao* worshippers talking about? first Pacquiao* doesn’t have to test beyond what the commissions mandate v. Pacquiao* now insits that Rios test beyond what the commission mandates. Floyd is “boring” and “cowardly” v. Manny* “entertaining”(?) performance v. Rios “and if you say that’s great boxing science” then so is Mayweather’s who did it first and better.

Posted December 4, 2013 7:30 pm 


REM

Peej he’s up 275k ROTF….

Posted December 4, 2013 7:27 pm 


Floyd Xylocaine Mayweather

If Ms Xylocaine is that big of a boxing star, how come Ms Xylocaine has no Endorsements?

Posted December 4, 2013 7:25 pm 


PEEJ

That’s fine, you can say at a younger age he was more popular. When I was younger I used to be able to dunk. I can’t anymore and Pac is not as popular any more

Posted December 4, 2013 7:15 pm 


PEEJ

Like I said Pac has been apart of more PPVs and Floud has out sold him. He is way ahead now after there last fights.

Posted December 4, 2013 7:14 pm 


REM

By Floyds logic….

Posted December 4, 2013 7:09 pm 


REM

Peej not Pacs problem the #s don’t lie. Lets see Pac was up 10.8-9.6 when Floyd offered the 40mil flat fee Pac was up 1.2mil buys so now Floyds up 275k buys buy Floyd logic he should get what a 15mil flat fee lmao not my logic its Floyds.

Posted December 4, 2013 7:00 pm 


Auzbox

Which means peej that at younger he was a bigger draw card if he has been in more or that duckweather only fights every so often cause he needs to study easy beats

Posted December 4, 2013 6:49 pm 


Floyd Xylocaine Mayweather

Floyd why do you numb ur hands before a fight by injecting Xylocaine in them?

option 1

My hands are very weak and and they hurt when i hit my opponents.

option 2

I am weak minded and i can not handle the pain in my hands when i hit my opponents.

option 3

When I juice my hands on Xylocaine then my girly hands become like man hands.

option 4

I hit my opponents with very few shots and I hardly ko anyone unless its a sucker punch and still my hands hurt, I cant live with these weak hands so I have to numb they with Xylocaine

option 5

God gave me weak hands so to compete i have to numb them so I dont feel the pain.

option 6

all I ask for is level playing field and Xylocaine.

option 7

I want to clean up the sport, manny pacquiao u are next, i mean ur are not next, i mean ur are next, you know what i mean.

Posted December 4, 2013 6:43 pm 


Auzbox

And floyd is older manny will pass him

Posted December 4, 2013 6:42 pm 


Auzbox

Love the facts REM duckweather fans can’t deny the facts ha ha

Posted December 4, 2013 6:41 pm 


Auzbox

If you disagree your obviously an idiot, yet you like no power mayweather so…… Hope it is khan and he doesn’t stop him

Posted December 4, 2013 6:40 pm 


REM

Floyd 12.675 ppv buys Pac 12.4 ppv buys ha ha Pacs still neck and neck in Floyds own country and can demand an even split ha ha.

Posted December 4, 2013 6:39 pm 


Auzbox

Ran like a coward you say tumbo, what’s mayweather do. And if you say that’s great boxing science then so was mannys

Posted December 4, 2013 6:39 pm 


Auzbox

When he was at welter, and Duran would have adapted he is not even in the top 5 ever, will never be

Posted December 4, 2013 6:37 pm 


te tumbo

Manny* did not provide an entertaining performance v. Rios. in fact, he “ran like a coward”, avoided exchanges, and simply potshotted to a predictable scorecard win. his performance v. Bradley was also underwhelming as was his third bout v. Marquez, which he lost in the eyes of most experienced fight-fans. he was looking good in IV but a KD and losing 2/5 rounds before being FLATTENED in the 6th is hardly a dominating performance. once Pacquiao* ran out of handpicked opponents that he could also compromise further at the negotiating table, his competitive edge has virtually evaporated v. equally prime opponents.

Posted December 4, 2013 6:35 pm 


Auzbox

Sugar ray would have whooped mayweather

Posted December 4, 2013 6:34 pm 


Anonymous

No intrests anymore Manny hasnt proved he is back he hasnt avenged his looses. PPV sales for the Rios bout sucked the list goes on. Boxing public want to see real fights Averez vs. Mayweather Made 300 mil. Kahn will do the same if not more poor pactards. The train has left the station and your boy aint on it lol… If he Knocks out Bradley Roger Mayweather said they will take the fight…

Posted December 4, 2013 6:32 pm 


te tumbo

Leonard, Hearns, Duran, Louis, and Lewis were not better than Mayweather. all kidding aside, IF you truly love and appreciate the science and craft of boxing, you need to closely study not only Floyd’s combination of talent, skills, and experience but his execution, which is what elevates the truly great fighters beyond the opinions and analysis of “experts”, pundits, and fans. otherwise, Leonard was essentiall shot by 30, Duran was only a competitive welter and middle, and Louis’ comp was lacking. Hearns would’ve definitely been an extremely difficult matchup for Mayweather to overcome and Lewis would’ve posed another difficult challenge on a P4P basis but neither can simply be considered “better” than Floyd.

Posted December 4, 2013 6:31 pm 


Auzbox

But hec dog it just attacks his legacy and its good for a laugh for all of us, atleast manny wont let the fans down

Posted December 4, 2013 6:28 pm 


Hec Dog

I imagine all the Mayweather fans are happy to see him fight glass jawed Amir Khan right? Come on people, send your boy an email pushing him to make the fight. Amir Khan is laughable. I wonder how many will pay to see that farce.

Posted December 4, 2013 6:25 pm 


Auzbox

Te-tumbo not a true indicator as everyone wrote him off they won’t again

Posted December 4, 2013 6:23 pm 


te tumbo

Pacquiao* not even being able to crack 501,000 PPVs for his comeback bout on his home turf is the strongest indicator that Manny’s* appeal is now isolated to his fanboys and hardcore fight-fans, but without main$tream appeal, Pacquiao* is no more compelling than Marquez(?!?!). perhaps selling-out Azteca Stadium in Mexico City for the final bout of Marquez’s career isn’t such a bad idea after all IF and when Pacquiao* agrees to Marquez’s terms.

Posted December 4, 2013 6:18 pm 


Auzbox

It’s not about money truth hurts manny got enough for 10 life times so stupid comment

Posted December 4, 2013 5:54 pm 


Auzbox

As is yours duckweather ring licker

Posted December 4, 2013 5:53 pm 


TRUTH HURTS

TRUTH HURTS

It’s all over twitter. Pac vs Rios did only 500,000 PPV buys.
No wonder this old c. u. n. t. Is trying to do a deal with Mayweather now.

Posted December 4, 2013 5:52 pm 


Auzbox

As is your duckweather ring licker

Posted December 4, 2013 5:52 pm 


Hec Dog

Like I said, most don’t understand how fight are won and lost in the ring or you would ee my explanation as to why I think Manny would win the fight v Mayweather. And I guess there’ plenty of other theories out there, but until Mayweather explains his inability to make the fight, it will never happen. Styles, techniques, ring smarts, psychological victories, confidence, experience, ability to make adjutments and durability all come into play. Manny Pacquiao will win.

Posted December 4, 2013 5:47 pm 


PEEJ

Typical pactard stuff. Claim Pac is all of these good things and then try and tear down Floyd. You have no facts in what you say. Just plain opinion. Which is pretty weak.

Posted December 4, 2013 5:43 pm 


Pac Is Back

Pac Is Back

Posted December 4, 2013 5:28 pm 


Auzbox

Anonymous in Australia well in melbourne and Sydney manny is way bigger, may v guerro didn’t showed in a lot of pubs in the city

Posted December 4, 2013 5:23 pm 


Auzbox

They fought everyone of there time mayweather has not and if he retires without manny no matter what you say it will be a cloud on 50 percent of boxing people

Posted December 4, 2013 5:20 pm 


Auzbox

Sredmomd Ali lost so did hagler they are better than mayweather

Posted December 4, 2013 5:18 pm 


PEEJ

So he has shown struggles but yet he over comes them by adjusting. As you see he keeps winning. Something Pac has not been able to keep doing

Posted December 4, 2013 5:05 pm 


PEEJ

There are no lucky punches. Marquez ment to throw that punch. He had been landing that punch for 3 fights already. If Pac was gonna finish of Maruqez he would of done it in the 1st fight where he had him down 3 times. Marquez constantly landed that punch. There are so many punches a person can take before their chin finally breaks. And Pacs chin broke in that fight. Now it seems to be ok even though Rios didn’t land much on him. Though Pac did admit to being hurt in the 5th round

Posted December 4, 2013 4:45 pm 


Tomato Can Stan

“unbeaten does not matter” – Well, I tend to judge a fighter by his quality of opposition. The Sven Ottkes of the world really don’t matter when their records are padded.

Posted December 4, 2013 4:41 pm 


Tomato Can Stan

Sredmond – Pacquiao was the aggressor in all four fights. He pressed the action. Las Vegas judges prefer effective aggressiveness over counterpunching. In their last outing Marquez was eating hard left hands all night long and suffered a broken nose. He was busted up. It looked like Pacquiao was on the verge of stopping him at one point but the bell rang. As far as the punch, we really don’t know if was timed or just plain lucky. Only Marquez knows.

Posted December 4, 2013 4:39 pm 


SREDMOND

The HecDogs of the World amuse me, they say being “unbeaten does not matter” yet they call out the wins of the fighters they like and knock the losses of the ones they don’t.. Being unbeaten at Floyd’s level is AMAZING 5 weight classes, 20 World title fights, the only elite fighter that has an unbeaten recod complied against hi grade fighters is Ward….

Posted December 4, 2013 4:32 pm 


SREDMOND

Manny Pacquiao has the FAR harder task in this conversation because he had been “figured out” on multiple occasions whereas Mayweather has confounded the critics, detractors, experts and opponents for close to 2 decades…Guys think Manny is gonna look so unusual to Floyd in the ring, HE WON’T… PAC Mans an aggressive fighter though he has been tamed at this point, Mayweather has plenty in his toolbag for guys who wanna open up, on fact he invites the aggression…. Seeing Manny against Brandon Rios is a fallacious representation of what Manny would be able to do in the ring with Floyd, a more real comparison would be Manny in the ring with 3 Marquez at once…

Posted December 4, 2013 4:27 pm 


Tomato Can

Pac is very good at what he does, his style has given everyone he’s faced problems… However, Pac has been in the ring a long time now, and he’s taken quite a bit of damage over the years, including the horrible knockout loss… As time goes on, a Mayweather win get’s further and further from becoming a reality. As it stands, Mayweather will enter the ring with less wear and tear milage as well as the bigger and stronger fighter. On top of that he’ll be as fast if not faster than Manny. Top that off with the fact that Mayweather is a better ring technician, and it becomes hard to pic Pac for nothing but a humbling loss…

Posted December 4, 2013 4:25 pm 


PEEJ

Bradley beating Pac was not an out right robbery. Yes I agree with that Pac won, that is how I scored it but it was still a close fight. Now Pac getting the win in the 3rd Marquez fight was a robbery

Posted December 4, 2013 4:22 pm 


PEEJ

Actually Hecdog I do understand boxing. trained in a boxing gym for a very long time, sparred with many people. No that is not the same as an actual fight in front of people but I do understand the fight game plenty. It is you that does not understand the fight game. You can tell by your long drawn out post that most times have nothing to do with boxing but have everything to do with Pacs personal life which in fact you are wrong on a lot of time time also

Posted December 4, 2013 4:21 pm 


SREDMOND

I agree Manny beat Bradley and was high jacked, trying to sell Compubox stats to mitigate the closeness of the prior 3 bouts is WEAK.. They had an S/D, Draw and disputed M/D that’s as close as it gets… The last fight remember Marquez booked 2, 10-8 rounds the last one resulting in Pacquaio being put to sleep… JMM was hurt but acting like he just got lucky is a flawed and SAD justification for the KO PUNCH he setup, timed and delivered with homocidal intentions…

Posted December 4, 2013 4:20 pm 


Hec Dog

I can see a lot of people here do not understand the sport of boxing and how fighters win fights inside the ring. Mayweather supporters think he’s the greatest ever and think Manny Pacquiao has no chance. First off, unbeaten records don’t mean a thing. Throw that out the window. The only criteria that’s needed is how Floyd can deal with Manny’s style and visa versa. Floyd has shown weaknesses in his fights against Cotto, Castillo, Oscar, Judah and Corely. He wins his fights by faster hands, better mobility, reflexes and defense. He’s a great athlete, but not a great technical fighter. He resembles Roy Jones in that he does things through his athleticism not his boxing technique. Floyd doesn’t know how to fight inside like the great ones (Duran, Chavez, Arguello). He throws his punches with speed, and he’s always ready to get out of there. Cotto exposed him as you saw. He was out of his element. Fearful, confused to say the least. Oscar was hitting him with the Jab all night. Judah’s southpaw style and speed gave Floyd fits. Floyd has plenty of weaknesses, and Manny Pacquiao has all the tools (speed, athleticism, power, southpaw unorthodox fighting style, feints and mental toughness). Manny’s style is hard to figure out. On a one fight basis, Manny’s style is too difficult to figure out. All his opponents say the same thing. he’s faster, stronger, unorthodox and he’s a blur coming at you at different angles. And a Marquez stated, Manny is faster and stronger than Mayweather. Manny’s brilliant boxing exhibition vs Rio showed his extraordinary versatility yet Mayweather fans criticized him for fighting somewhat like Mayweather himself. The biggest obstacles for Mayweather are Manny’s speed. Mayweather relies on speed more than anything. Speed changes your entire fight plan. What will Mayweather do when facing a fighter faster than he is? Secondly, Pacquiao’s energetic unorthodox style applies pressure and he feints his way to create openings. Floyd relies on timing and counter punching. Manny’s feints and style will throw Mayweather off balance all day. He won’t be able to counter Manny. Manny’s in and out perpetual motion will give Mayweather fits. Manny is also the better athlete, and if he wants to move and have Mayweather chase him, he can do so. Manny has natural power. Ask Margarito, Oscar, Marquez, Barrera, Hatton, Morales, Diaz and any other fighter that ha shared the squared circle with Manny Pacquiao. Floyd does not have natural power, but has the speed to hurt you. Once again, Manny is the bigger threat for a one punch KO because of his superior speed and power. Floyd Mayweather has more to worry about than Manny Pacquiao does. After studying both fighters carefully and without bias, I see Manny Pacquiao winning a UD or mid round stoppage. Manny has the edge in the most areas. And there are intangible that favor Manny like fan support, More pressure on Mayweather to remain unbeaten and the constant drama in Mayweather camp and life. Trust me. Mark my words. If this fight happens. Manny Pacquiao cement his legacy as arguably the greatest fighter in boxing history

Posted December 4, 2013 4:17 pm 


SREDMOND

Tomato Can Stan, you must not have seen PAC Man with his head wrapped after Cotto with a BUSTED Eardrum, Mayweathers Bloody nose was commonplace except it was Floyd who does not normally incur injury in the ring…PAC Man was brutal and got the stoppage against Cotto but let’s keep this REAL…

Posted December 4, 2013 4:15 pm 


Tomato Can Stan

Peej – Pacquiao defeated Bradley, that was outright robbery. And he was giving Marquez a pasting before walked into that punch. Not to mention that Pacquiao outlanded him in all four bouts and had him down 5 times.

Posted December 4, 2013 4:13 pm 


rjhill

Who knows? about floyd,you would think so.,and Pacquiao says he is in deep for his fans.

Posted December 4, 2013 4:08 pm 


Fighting Bettas

Mayweather is a smart man. He knows what he wants, and what he needs to stay away from. Your assesment of things , including your assertions means nothing. Mayweather knows more than you, and most of all he knows himself better than you. Now stop being this know it all clown.

Posted December 4, 2013 4:03 pm 


PEEJ

Nope not stupid at all. Floyd toyed with the man that KOd Pac. Pac doesn’t do well against boxers. He lost to a prime Morales, Bradley and was KOd by Marquez. He also ducked when they where at 130. Sorry but Floyd would toy with Pac but they are not wanting to take the fight with Floyd. That is why Pac is fighting in April and not in May against Floyd.

Posted December 4, 2013 3:56 pm 


Fighting Bettas

Mayweather is a coward. He sees something in Pacquioa that he cannot hope to overcome. Those who say that pacquiao will be crushed by Floyd are stupid. If floyd believes he cannot do it, who are these losers to say otherwise?

Posted December 4, 2013 3:53 pm 


PEEJ

So Pac taking more punches and having his ear drum busted is not taking more punishment? You are living in Bizaro world. But fine lets just go with what you say, Floyd still toys with Pac.

Posted December 4, 2013 3:50 pm 


Tomato Can Stan

Peej – Mayweather took more punishment against Cotto than Pacquiao did. Why you would lie against the ropes with a hooker like Cotto is beyond me

Posted December 4, 2013 3:48 pm 


PEEJ

funny how nobody can provide these so called numbers to show his popularity.

Posted December 4, 2013 3:38 pm 


Hec Dog

Tomato Can Sam, thanks for backing up how popular and supported Manny Pacquiao is by Asia. And not just Asia, the whole world.

Posted December 4, 2013 3:36 pm 


PEEJ

Sorry but you are wrong again. Pac got him more in 10 rounds against Cotto than Floyd did in 12. Pac had his ear drum busted, Floyd had a bloody nose. Pac may have got the stoppage but that is because he is a power puncher, Floyd almost got the stoppage also but didn’t. Still won

Posted December 4, 2013 3:32 pm 


SREDMOND

Tomato Can Stan, I’m all for a fight if possible that said I find the “Manny will win because he’s a lefty” argument weak… If he prevailed my hat would come off, that simple..

Posted December 4, 2013 3:29 pm 


randomguy

the fight will never happen cause duckweather doesn’t really want it. pac isn’t part his prime enough.

Posted December 4, 2013 3:20 pm 


Tomato Can Stan

Pacquiao has only been down a few times in his entire career. He also took that monstrous body shot from Margocheato pretty well.

Posted December 4, 2013 2:59 pm 


Tomato Can Stan

Peej – Mayweather looked much more “terrible” against Cotto than Pacquiao did

Posted December 4, 2013 2:40 pm 


PEEJ

That is just dumb, why didn’t he split the revenue. He did but they wanted more than what they deserve. Floyd sells more PPVs which mean he brings in more money. He is not gonna split it 50/50 with anybody unless they bring in equal fans. Sorry but economics doesn’t work that way. That is why people in all sports if they are the best make more than other players. But according to you they should probably all be making the same amount of money.

Posted December 4, 2013 2:37 pm 


PEEJ

He didn’t look so good when Morales was close to his prime getting boxed. in the first fight. Morales was out of his prime by the time the 2nd fight rolled around and also the 3rd fight. So yeah Pac didn’t look good until he had an old Morales in front of him. Good observation.

Posted December 4, 2013 2:35 pm 


Tomato Can Stan

“shot he has almost NO CHANCE” – Thats what they said about Buster Douglas as well. Stranger things have happened in boxing.

Posted December 4, 2013 2:34 pm 


SREDMOND

HOW is “Mayweather Prime” both he and Pac are not at the top of their athletic form, that said Mayweathers just a technically superior defender and all around boxer… At 147 without the ability to flatten guys Pacquiao’s boxing has been challenged, he can keep guys honest but absent the ability to stop Floyd Mayweather with a shot he has almost NO CHANCE….We know that his chin has been compromised, he handled the slow Rios beautifully but against better fighters with quicker hands he is gonna take some flush bombs because that’s his nature…

Posted December 4, 2013 2:26 pm 


deepwater

floyd also made Marquez come up and paid 300k to cheat on the scales.

Posted December 4, 2013 2:24 pm 


SREDMOND

REM says “Marquez is tougher than Mayweather” ON WHAT planet? That’s why Marquez was tortured, humiliated and openly admits he NEVER wants to share a boxing ring with Floyd Mayweather AGAIN Marquez is a tough bastard and that was to Pac Mans detriment 4x… Manny put him down 3x in the first round and that toughness was the BANE of Pacs existence resulting in him losing more brain cells in round 6 of fight 4 than he did in 10 other bouts…. Mayweather on the other hand took Marquez “toughness” and handed it back to him in the form of 12-0 where he accomplished nothing and didn’t dare go into his usual hissy fight when he was announced the BIG LOSER….Marquez at 39 was too much for Manny, at 35 or so he was childs play for Floyd Mayweather… Pac Man is awesome but he cannot box with Mayweather, his angles and left hand look terrific against Margarito, and Rios a couple tough guys who have a combined boxing IQ of 12, on a scale of 1-100….Mayweathers boxing IQ cannot be charted by conventional means that’s why he is NOT letting Marquez, Torrecampo, or Singsurat knock him out, nor getting outboxed by Erik Morales… MAN PLEASE

Posted December 4, 2013 2:23 pm 


Decision

How so many people talk as if Pacman is close to his prime, I just don’t understand, problem is that Mayweather is close to his prime, now,

It would be very sad for Pacman fans to see him against Bradley or Mayweather, at this point,

Pacman 2-3 years ago, would have been to much for Money, and we all know it,

I am a Pacman fan, but I do see that the Mayweather fight comes too late.

Do Pac fans really see the same Tiger now, like they did a few years ago?
I would love for Manny to beat Mayweather 2014, but ….

Posted December 4, 2013 2:16 pm 


REM

Since Floyd fans will continue with blaming Arum I will repeat if Floyd felt he would easily beat Pac why didn’t he split the revenue and embarrass Pac. Floyd hates Arum so he had the opportunity to set Arum way back practically burying TR. Odviously because Pac is not easy for Floyd he’s actually a nightmare for Floyds style.

Posted December 4, 2013 2:08 pm 


Tomato Can Stan

Peej – Guzman has fought no one near the elite level that Pacquiao has.

Posted December 4, 2013 2:03 pm 


REM

Titopa Mora was capable of that against that version of Mosley I wasn’t surprised at all Mora is a sliick skilled contender fact is that faded version of Mosley was the one who put Floyd on queer street. Mosley was declining before the Margo fight Floyd fought a Mosley that was a shell of himself just like Margo, Mora, Pac and Canelo.

Posted December 4, 2013 2:00 pm 


Tomato Can Stan

Oh yeah Peej, Pacquiao looked “horrible” against Morales when Morales lied there helpless on the canvas looking to his corner to stop the fight. Pacquiao looked “horrible” against Cotto as he landed that awkward punch right through Cotto’s guard and had him wobbling on queer street. Pacquiao looked “horrible” against Marquez as Marquez lied flat on his back with a busted nose. Are you telling me Mayweather looked better than Pacquiao against Cotto ? As Cotto was busting Mayweather up on the ropes ? Pacquiao is the only man to stop Cotto, and don’t say Margacheato did with loaded gloves.

Posted December 4, 2013 1:58 pm 


PEEJ

PTS Pacs last fight against Rios was $70. At least with Floyd you got like 7 fights.

Posted December 4, 2013 1:53 pm 


PEEJ

Pac looks terrible against boxers. Just look at Bradley, Morales, Marquez, even when Cotto was boxing he was getting to Pac. Not to mention Pac ducked Joan Guzman. Floyd would toy with Pac and that is why they never signed to fight. That is why Arum is saying we publicly said we will try and make the fight, now they need to contact us. They don’t need to contact anybody, they are they ones saying they want the fight so they need to contact them. Fight will never happen as long as Arum is in the picture.

Posted December 4, 2013 1:52 pm 


PTS

When an “ATG” fighter charges $70 to watch his fights and then expects fans to pay the same so he can face A MERE CON, I think that about sums up the level of respect Floydito has for the folks who have made him rich, which has helped him support his rag tag posse but have not had any positive effect on his daddy’s enunciating skills. At least, Pac stated he’s willing to face him on national TV. That’s being more respectful.

Posted December 4, 2013 1:52 pm 


REM

Stan the proof is in the solid fighters they’ve produced. Pac he’s just a special breed of athlete and when you put that kind of warrior mind in that fighter records will be destroyed. Floyds never faced anything close to that and he knows it

Posted December 4, 2013 1:49 pm 


PTS

Titotopia– Are you forgetting that styles make fight? You perhaps believe that zero losses some how equate to invincibility, and if that’s your logic, it too is very biased.

Posted December 4, 2013 1:46 pm 


Tomato Can Stan

Titopa – How can you say Marquez “outboxed” Pacquiao when he consistently outlanded Marquez ? And you seem to forget about the other two fights with Morales where Pacquiao flattened him like a tsunami. Their first fight was right before Pacquiao started to blossom and come into his prime, before Roach started to refine him more and develope his right hand.

Posted December 4, 2013 1:45 pm 


PTS

Silly Red—-The bottom line is…..A WIN IS A WIN IS A WIN, regardless whether by SD or MD or, do you not know that yet?

Posted December 4, 2013 1:42 pm 


Titopa

REM – Mayweather’s feet were taken away from him by Mosley…TWICE in one round, last time I checked, Floyd not only did NOT go down…but went out to win every single round after that. You can’t say he’ll react differently against Pacquiao, plus, Pacquiao HAS been outboxed…by Morales and by Marquez and was just recently put to SLEEP by a boxer who isn’t on the same level as Floyd. So, yeah.

Posted December 4, 2013 1:39 pm 


Titopa

REM – “Mosley had not lost a step”?? Did you see him against Mora…you’ve got to be kidding me….I’m done, you’re clearly VERY, VERY biased.

Posted December 4, 2013 1:37 pm 


PTS

Redmond..your ignorance isn’t surprising. Regardless whether Pac fought Shane at his peak or not, the fact remains Pac fought him nonetheless. It isn’t always a 130lb’er goes up and beats a past his prime fighter. So to that extent, Pac has rightfully earned his stature in boxing. Now, if your twisted argument revolves around Rios being some kind face first plodding type of fighter as being a poor excuse for Pac fighting him, I submit that Floyd, considering who he wants to be recognized as, did worse, much worse when as a supposed p4p fighter he decided to fight Guerrero and worse, fought Oritz. Two extremely lame excuses for an opponent. When Floyd retires, ( hopefully sooner than later) no one, but no one is going to remember WTF were Guerrero and Ortiz, apart from Baldomir and others. Further, Pac deserves mad props for facing Bradley. Floyd, the supposed “ATG” fighter, has overlooked Bradley who has been more deserving of a fight against him than the two piss poor excuses I just mentioned. One thing is certain, Floydiots including yourself cant continue harping on silly rhetoric that Pac refuses to face Floyd. On national TV he stated it unequivocally. But as is the usual scenario, Mr. Rogers believes Pac should have to face Guerrero and Ortiz before facing Floyd. Must be because Floyd is embarrassed having faced them, he needs Pac to be in the same hole to feel better about those cheesy accomplishments.

Posted December 4, 2013 1:33 pm 


REM

Titopa that opinion doesn’t pass the eye test Mosley had not lost a step in the time between his fights with Floyd and Pac. Mosley actually looked in better shape for Pac he was slimmer than he was vs Floyd. Mosleys win over Margo didn’t boost his attributes same guy throughout all of those fights.

Posted December 4, 2013 1:30 pm 


Tomato Can Stan

REM – I’ve never seen a boxer punch at more awkward angles and have such dazzling footwork as Pacquiao. Filipinos are very tough, because they come up very hard in those impoverished islands. The Phillipines have produced some great fighters, from Pancho Villa to Flash Giorde and Donaire. They are a small but hardy people.

Posted December 4, 2013 1:28 pm 


REM

Titopa Floyd hasn’t fought anything like Pac speed, power, agility etc. out of the southpaw stance a style that has had more success in fights than the orthodox style. Marquez is physically tougher than Floyd. Floyd will get hit and won’t react as well as Marquez. Since he will get hit more often potshoting won’t be enough to beat Pac. Floyds gonna have to fight like Marquez did he won’t have the superior athleticism to evade. Floyd always has the athleticism advantage lets see him handle a fighter that can match his athleticism who isn’t a broken minded quiter like Zab was. We all know Pac is a lot better than Zab.

Posted December 4, 2013 1:22 pm 


Titopa

deepwater – The P4P champion has NO control over Arum and what he wants….which is why Arum is making Bradley vs Pacquiao II and Rios vs Alvarado III, recycling fights to pad his pockets…it will NEVER stop either. In order for you to fight Manny, you gotta sign a deal with Top Rank, hence Mosley signing a ONE FIGHT deal with Top Rank to fight Manny….why? 20%, that’s why.

Posted December 4, 2013 1:22 pm 


deepwater

the pound for pound champion should accept all challengers and not make excuses.period.

Posted December 4, 2013 1:19 pm 


Titopa

*can’t knock my grandmother out

Posted December 4, 2013 1:19 pm 


Titopa

REM – Also, when you’re 39, ONE year is HUGE….after his loss to Mayweather, Mosley went downhill FAST…I mean, the guy had a draw with feather fisted Mora who can’t my grandmother out.

Posted December 4, 2013 1:19 pm 


Titopa

Tomato Can Stan – I will agree that Marquez had NO business whining about his clear cut loss to Bradley…it wasn’t like he got a thorough beating, but he clearly lost. But I don’t blaming him for whining about his “losses” to Pacquiao, you can easily make an argument that he won their 2nd and 3rd fights.

Posted December 4, 2013 1:17 pm 


Titopa

REM – Mosley was coming off of one of his greatest victories (wrecking of MargaCheato), Manny got him after his loss to Floyd and a incredibly AWFUL draw verses Mora….who beat the better version of Mosley? You CANNOT say Manny did, if you do, then you’re incredibly biased.

Posted December 4, 2013 1:15 pm 


SREDMOND

SNORRRREEEEEE Pacquaio is a terrific fighter, yet the “South Paw”
Argument has to be the MOST desperate EVER…Fact is that if by some miracle Manny defeated FMJ it would not be because Mayweather has never successfully taken a left hander…All those who came at him from that stance LOST widely… Meanwhile Manny Pacquiao is a BEATABLE fighter, his deficiencies are well known, of course a SLOW as Molasses Brandon Rios neither had the quickness nor skill to win..But Floyd has a SURPLUS of every hinny it takes to make PAC Man miserable in the ring…PAC was put in with Rios because they COULD NOT chance him facing a counterpuncher or a guy who could move well… Seriously a STIFF legged 39 year old Marquez planted him 2x there is ONLY the slimmest chance he could find a way to defeat Floyd Mayweather..

Posted December 4, 2013 1:14 pm 


Tomato Can Stan

ha – Phillipines is in Asia. And if Pac is not a big draw over there, then why did China put up his last fight ? When I pack-backed through Australia in 2005 I remember the pubs were hugely overcrowed for Pacquiao-Morales I.

Posted December 4, 2013 1:06 pm 


ha

@hecdog YOu’re full of BS if you tihnk Manny is a big draw in Asia. He may be a big draw in the Phils, but not in Asia. The smart asians who kill on tests don’t even consider filipino asians. More chinese were rooting for Rios than PEDCquiao because to them he’s a laborer.

Posted December 4, 2013 1:02 pm 


SREDMOND

That’s idiotic “PAC lost 4x ins his prime” and saying he beat Marquez “convincingly 3 out of 4 times is comical, who has 4 and possibly 5 fights when they first 3 were wipeouts…PAC Man does NOT own a single CLEAR win over Marquez, that’s why they have a DRAW, S/D and controversial M/D….Juan Manuel has the ONLY clear win at age 39 so discussing Mannys prime in that context is simply embarrassing.. He was starched by a guy 5 years older than him…Mayweather is OLDER than Manny, out of his prime soon to be 37 yet still making it look easy… I love PAC Man but these are FACTS

Posted December 4, 2013 1:01 pm 


Jim Rich

Lets make the fight and vegas odds will favor mayweather as the underdog will in fact be pac man. If pac has to fight bradley and beat him to fight mayweather then the camps should be in agreement on that. Have an eliminator bout, mayweather and pacman on the same card for their next fights, winners of the bouts fight each other as a showcase for the ultimate showdown. Anything being done at this point should be to set up a fight between pac and mayweather if not next fight the fight after that. Let the fighters make it happen if they are serious, seems like they aren’t overly concerned with fighting each other at this point however.

Posted December 4, 2013 12:55 pm 


REM

With that one…

Posted December 4, 2013 12:53 pm 


Tomato Can Stan

Titopa – It was a slim margin indeed, but I gave the edge to Pacquiao. He was the aggressor and pushed the action, whereas Marquez just countered. Las Vegas judges like effective ggressiveness more than countering. Pacquiao just shrugged off his loss with a smile. He never complains or makes excuses, whereas Marquez whined again after Bradley. In his advanced age Marquez should of just rested on his laurels after the stunning Pacquiao KO and faded off into the sunset with that highlight of his career. But most boxers don’t know when to quit.

Posted December 4, 2013 12:51 pm 


REM

Titopa no my friend you don’t get away with one. Pac fought the same version of Mosley that Floyd did. Their fights with him were like a year apart Mosley hadn’t lost anything physically for his fight with Pac. The only fighter that Floyd fought a better version of is Oscar.

Posted December 4, 2013 12:50 pm 


Anonymous

Manny Pacquiao beats anyone in his prime. There sure weren’t many fighters calling Manny out then. They all ran away, Floyd Mayweather in particular. Ped Man Marquez lost 3 out of 4 convincingly. The 5th we all know Hereida was involved and the intentional foot trip Ped Man used. Manny has had the most exciting boxing matches of all time. Floyd, Oscar or Tyson never elevated boxing to the level Manny Pacquiao has. Manny is currently taking on the best even after a bad loss. He looked spectacular beating Rios, which by the way, Mike Tyson agreed. Manny will always be a target for those that are jealous and envious of who he is. Manny Pacquiao was voted Fighter of the Decade, which was also Floyd’s decade. Simply put, Manny is the best, and his boxing peers agree.

Posted December 4, 2013 12:49 pm 


Titopa

AND Mayweather is a bigger, stronger, faster, more elusive and a MUCH smarter version of Marquez….I do not see Manny dealing with all the tools he possesses, if Marquez can give Manny trouble…Floyd will give him HELL.

Posted December 4, 2013 12:48 pm 


Pinhead

Of course we would love to see them in the ring together, it would still be a gargantuan sporting event, but they have not robbed or disrespected us, how can they have? they have both entertained us for years taking part in the toughest sport there is. They have fought everyone there is……..justy not each other……….ye

Posted December 4, 2013 12:48 pm 


Titopa

Tomato Can Stan – Go read on it, TONS and TONS of experts and journalists had Marquez winning their first 3 bouts…remember, as viewers we don’t have the luxury of compubox stats, we gotta use our two eyes..and only blind biased fans thought Manny won their 2nd and 3rd fights, I will say that Manny should’ve gotten the nod in the first…I will admit that, but their 2nd and 3rd fights belonged to Marquez by a slim margin.

Posted December 4, 2013 12:45 pm 


Tomato Can Stan

Titopa – Pacquiao outlanded Marquez in all four bouts and put him to the canvas five times. Enough said. The reason why there was more than four fights is because Marquez whined about the decisions and Pacquiao being a gentleman granted him rematches, something Marquez will never do.

Posted December 4, 2013 12:41 pm 


Titopa

*wouldn’t have fought more than twice

Posted December 4, 2013 12:34 pm 


Titopa

Tomato Can Stan – Manny has NEVER EVER “coasted” against Marquez…you’re smoking some good stuff, he also NEVER beat Marquez convincingly, if he had, they would’ve have fought more than twice….everyone in the boxing world knows they had unfinished business after their first 3 fights. Marquez has always proved to be Manny’s equalizer, while Manny was steam rolling his way through guys…Marquez was in the shadows like “let me at him, I’ll tame him”.

Posted December 4, 2013 12:34 pm 


Titopa

Tomato Can Stan – Mosley WAS good, he was NOT the same old Mosley at the time Manny got to him…Floyd beat a WAY better version of Mosley, right after Mosley has wrecked MargaCheato.

Posted December 4, 2013 12:32 pm 


Titopa

Mag & Jim Rich – Right on the BUTTON!!!!

Posted December 4, 2013 12:25 pm 


deepwater

stop with the exusses. make the fight happen. the fans deserve a super fight.

Posted December 4, 2013 12:23 pm 


SREDMOND

This is a SILLY article to say the least, looking to create interest with the mention of FMJ and PAC…. The writer discusses none of the reasons making this contest is currently problematic, the better question is “do fight fans respect themselves”
NONE of us are dating FMJ or Manny and if you don’t like their career arc’s the option to NOT WATCH is open to all of us…

Posted December 4, 2013 12:21 pm 


Jim Rich

No, pac foes aren’t lesser. Pac has faught good people as mayweather and right pac has disposed of his opponents in much more spectacular fashion than mayweather but that doesn’t translate into pac having an advantage over mayweather. Pac is more boxer puncher, and mayweather is more boxer, so just diffrent styles. No way pac lands on mayweather like rios, mayweather has much better defense and follow up on mistakes made by the other fighter. I think it would be a tough fight to pick who would win is what I’m saying I don’t think pac has an advantage. Mayewather has the zero that he wants keep so he is definitly going be hell to beat to lose that zero so I give advantage to mayewather who hasn’t learned to lose yet. Mayeather(aka blinkey ghost) gobble up pacman. *-+=. game over…by close decison.

Posted December 4, 2013 12:19 pm 


TARK

I`m sexy and I know it…

Posted December 4, 2013 12:14 pm 


deepwater

jim rich is new to boxing

Posted December 4, 2013 12:07 pm 


Tomato Can

Jim Rich, has the beat….

Posted December 4, 2013 12:00 pm 


Tomato Can Stan

Jim Rich – Pacquiao has defeated top notch elite boxers : Cotto, Mosley, Hatton, de la Hoya, Marquez, Barrera and Morales. In fact, he steamrolled most of these guys, whereas Mayweather struggled more with them, except for Marquez. I wouldn’t really refer to Pacquiao’s opposition as “lesser foes”. He’s beaten the best. He had an astonishing winning streak that ended with Marquez IV (I don’t include Bradley because that was outright robbery). Also, lets not forget that in their last bout Pacquiao was giving Marquez a hiding before Pacquiao got too aggressive and walked into that shot. Pacquiao was criticized by the naysayers for getting close decisions with Marquez, even though Pacquiao outlanded him in all four fights. So to silence the critics Pacquiao took the risk and tried to KO Marquez to settle it once and for all. Pacquiao could of easily coasted to a UD victory again.

Posted December 4, 2013 11:52 am 


Mag

People forget that Bob Arum is Pacquiao’s boss and HE calls the shots. It’s not up to Pacquiao. Bob Arum doesn’t want the fight, he NEVER did. As long as Pac is with Top Rank they won’t fight… It’s that simple….

Posted December 4, 2013 11:46 am 


Jim Rich

Pacman has more trouble with really technical boxers, as marquez who faints and keeps you guessing. This is why marquez and pac keep fighting on even terms. Pac looks like a superstar when he can go in and use speed and agility and pot shot the heck out of you. When pac runs into a technical fighter like mayweather he will have trouble getting off punches and landing. So pac is more explosive with his wins against lesser foes doesn’t mean he has any real advantage against mayweather. Mayweather is a better version of marquez so I would expect pac man to get goblle up by mayweather(aks blinkey ghost) game over for pac man. + * – i .

Posted December 4, 2013 11:33 am 


deepwater

khan made judah cry and beat up paulie M. he also got knocked out in 15 seconds so of course Mayweather wants to fight him. mayweather will also knock khan out. real boxing fans know its an easy pick. lil floyd is not sure he beats pac thats why he will try his hardest to make excuses

Posted December 4, 2013 11:11 am 


deepwater

khan made judah cry and beat up paulie M. he also got knocked out in 15 secounds so of course Mayweather wants to fight him. mayweather will also knock khan out. real boxing fans know its an easy pick.

Posted December 4, 2013 11:07 am 


Tomato Can Stan

Its a stalling tactic by the Mayweather camp to wait and get a washed up Pacquiao, much like Leonard did with Hagler. Or if Pacquiao suffers another defeat, they know the demand for this lucrative megafight will surely diminish. Khan is the front runner for Mayweather, but they’re making Pacquiao wait. Khan has nowhere near the credentials that Pacquiao possesses.

Posted December 4, 2013 10:58 am 


deepwater

i agree cotto made the floyd fight pretty close. I think pac beats Floyd that’s why floyd is playing stupid and making excuses like he has to knock out bradley. yeah just like judah got whopped by baldomir but fought floyd next.

Posted December 4, 2013 10:47 am 


Tomato Can Stan

deepwater – Mayweather struggled with Cotto as well and got his nose bloodied. But Pacquiao was the only man ever to stop Cotto. No, I don’t include Margacheato because the ignorant scumbag had wraps.

Posted December 4, 2013 10:38 am 


deepwater

yes I do . I give him all the credit in those fights. and I thought DLH had at least a draw against lil Floyd. I give PAC credit for the Morales and Barrera fights even more then those. PAC wiped out killers that ruled the divisions in their prime. for floyd to say who? makes me sick

Posted December 4, 2013 10:18 am 


Tomato Can Stan

deepwater – Ok, then do you give credit for Pacquiao dispatching Cotto, Mosley and Hatton much more impressively than Mayweather ? Besides, de la Hoya was already past his prime when he faced Mayweather, yet he still managed to give him some difficulty with his jab.

Posted December 4, 2013 10:04 am 


deepwater

delahoya was already doing blow and dressing up and sucking trannies when he fought pac. i give pac no credit for that one.

Posted December 4, 2013 9:12 am 


deepwater

let the fight happen. Mayweather was out of his seat watching pac vs Morales. now he says who? when asked about Pac. make the damn fight already for the biggest purse in history. no excuses from either side.

Posted December 4, 2013 9:11 am 


Anonymous

is there anyone on here old enough to remember that long lost word in boxing undisputed.

Posted December 4, 2013 8:55 am 


Decision

I hope that Mayweather vs Pacman 2014, does not take place, it is 2-3 years too late, for Pacman. The Rios fight doesn’t mean anything.

Eventhough I consider Mayweather and Pacman equal, in the light of history, they are both great, in different ways, I don’t think the Pacman that needs those few percentages, at this point, could handle the fast Bradley, eventhough Pacman won the first fight.

Like him or not, Mayweather has aged fantastically, and he has chosen the right opponents, every time. I don’t see anyone beating him, with his speed, and ring intelligence.

By the way, Pacman, I think, had beaten Mayweather 2-3 years ago.

Posted December 4, 2013 8:41 am 


norteños@cell.block14

Two overarted bums. Pacquiao was starched by a Messicano, and Mayweather cherry-picks his opponents.

Posted December 4, 2013 8:37 am 


Spider Rico NYC

Just fight already!

Posted December 4, 2013 7:45 am 


Auzbox

Two more great wins and I know you will say dela Hoya was drained by he wanted the fight

Posted December 4, 2013 6:38 am 


Auzbox

Two piece what about cotto, dela Hoya

Posted December 4, 2013 6:38 am 


spartacus 65

Goodmorning gentlemen. With all due respect to this writer, HOW HAS MANNY PACQUIAO DISGRACED himself or boxing? Manny Pacquiao? A disgrace?!? And it goes on and on. Cheers soldiers and Godspeed this coming Christmas to you and your families. Peace and strength.

Posted December 4, 2013 5:40 am 


Two Piece

The best perfomances by Manny were Hutton, Barrera, Ledwaba, Marque1&2, the rest a full of ifs and buts stemming from avoided RBT, catchweights, cherrypicks & bogus titles etc

Posted December 4, 2013 5:34 am 


Two Piece

You think a weight drained ODH, Cotto, Margacheato, Morales2&3, ” turtle Rios, Peekaboo Clottey and kiss & hugg me Mosley are enough to convince us that Pac is the greatest fighter EVER, NOT!

Posted December 4, 2013 5:30 am 


Two Piece

HecDog/ Chicago Guy – everyone on ESB knows you’re a lunatic posing as boxing fan. No one takes you seriously especially when you have no facts to back up your statements.

Posted December 4, 2013 5:24 am 


Hec Dog

Tark my friend, just because Floyd slightly does better PPV than Manny Pacquiao doesn’t mean he’s the bigger draw. Below is some information I read recently: Manny’s live gates are higher, and internationally, he’s the much bigger draw. He’s huge in Asia and Mexico. It’s hard to know exactly how much money Pacquiao generate internationally because fights are broadcast differently in many underdeveloped countries because per capita income is significantly lower the populace of these nation wouldn’t be able to afford to order expensive PPV telecasts. As a result international broadcast rights are sold to television companies or an intermediary who buy the rights for a flat fee and then profits off of them by selling them to a network and finds sponsors to attach themselves to the bout in that specific region in order to generate revenues which exceed the amount tht was paid for international television rights. So even if Mayweather PPV is slightly better, other strands of revenue makeup for Manny Pacquiao’s short
coming in PPV.

REM had this post also:
Manny Pcaquiao is the bigger draw world wide. I posted the #s before Pac 9.9 mil ppvs 525mil $ after Pac vs Marquez 3 Floyd 9.6 mil ppvs 540mil $ after the Cotto fight. This means when Floyd offered the 40 mil flat fee Pac had surpassed Floyd with the Bradley fight. Since Floyd has done 3mil ppvs while Pac has done 2 mil we’re waiting for the Rios #s which will put Pac close to 3mil ppvs their neck and neck in domestic ppvs alone. Millions more are generated by Pac in global broadcasting revenue could’nt find those exact #s just that its in the millions. Floyd does global broadcasting revenue also just not like Pac.

Posted December 4, 2013 5:18 am 


Ray Ray

Old coot- If i already didnt no that you new zero about boxing than you have confirmed just now? Leonard vs Pryor? Floyd ducking Margahand wraps who was a beast that pac shouldnt have been fighting? Margcheatto had 1 good fight in his life, the 1 he cheated in. Than got bashed by an over the hill Mosley ha ha. Margacheatto has over 10 defeats doesnt he? Than u call Clottey a great fighter? Great against who? 4 a guy who thinks his old and wise you no sweet F-;k all about boxing…..I already new that.

Posted December 4, 2013 5:15 am 


ha

Fighters take pain killers because they’re not 100% healthy. Anybody who has taken pain killers knows it adversely affects you.

Posted December 4, 2013 4:54 am 


boxaman

Why would a boxer take painkillers for a fight? Please don’t make me feel stupid for asking.

Posted December 4, 2013 4:49 am 


ha

Pac loyal? HA HA. Ask Jinkee or the extra marital child he’s covered up.

Posted December 4, 2013 4:47 am 


Whoever

Pac yes, Floyd no; Pac is a loyal man, that’s why he doesn’t leave TR. Floyd lacks character, he only cares for money, giving to charity is fake, he doesn’t give a sh;t except for himself, and probably makes fun of his fans who buy his fake fights..

Posted December 4, 2013 4:44 am 


Two Piece

SRL in his autobiography said the best advise he received from The Greatest was never let ” them” own you. SRL Pty Ltd was created to protect his interests cause no one will. Promoters have been screwng the boxers over forever. Pac is in the same boat.

Posted December 4, 2013 4:42 am 


Two Piece

I kinda feel sorry for the poor guy. Bob is screwing him over. The company he hired afew years back were onto something but Bob has something bigger on Pac.

Posted December 4, 2013 4:36 am 


ha

Pac is too stupid to leave Top Rank. He’s a 3rd world congressman. Pac will never be his own man like DLH and Floyd.

Posted December 4, 2013 4:32 am 


Two Piece

Pac should dump Arum and Top Stink first before he fights anybody. Manny is hanging with the mafioso and will feel the pinch when his career is over. Bob like Don the King is a snake first then a promoter.

Posted December 4, 2013 4:30 am 


Fight Aficionado

Do Mayweather and Pacquiao Respect Boxing Fans? – No. Otherwise this fight would’ve happened three years ago. What they respect about boxing fans is the millions of dollars we line their pockets with. So they can both GTFO.

Posted December 4, 2013 4:29 am 


Anonymous

Margacheato almost killed Cotto. Come on Coot he wasnt nothing without that plaster in his gloves Shane proved it.

Posted December 4, 2013 4:28 am 


Anonymous

Thankfully, Roger Mayweather has cleared things up. Mayweather Jr.’s uncle spoke with Hustle Boss recently and laid things out in very understandable, very specific terms: Pacquiao needs to prove that he deserves a shot at the pound-for-pound king.

The Mayweather clan seems to acknowledge that Pacquiao defeated Brandon Rios in dominant fashion last week. However, they don’t think Rios was a worthy foe. They think Pacquiao needs a step up in competition before he qualifies to take on the king of the hill.

“He can fight Bradley; that’s a good fight for him,” Roger Mayweather said. “Timothy Bradley is a good fight for him. I think he’s going to give Pacquiao problems anyways. The thing of it is, hey, it’s going to be a good fight. One way or the other it’s still a good fight.

“And people are going to point to that as a thing to fight Floyd,” he continued. “That’s the kind of bout that would bring Pacquiao back. Because Timothy Bradley’s got a good name.”

So fight and beat Bradley – that’s what would earn Pacquiao a shot at Mayweather Jr.? Not exactly.

“Obviously he’d have to stop the guy in order for [people] to say ‘you got a chance with Floyd,’” Roger Mayweather added.

Posted December 4, 2013 4:26 am 


Two Piece

Old Coot – Ever wonder why Arum didn’t want to handover those documents to the Company that was hired by Pac to look after his business. ” misunderstanding” check this space.

Posted December 4, 2013 4:26 am 


Two Piece

Yes Old Coot his been ducking all Top Stink fighters since he dumped Arum and those who followed got their lumps and a good payday, thank you very much.

Posted December 4, 2013 4:21 am 


ha

LMFAO Margarito was tank Manny should not be fighting? Umm Mosley beat that ass down, that’s why Manny fought Margarito. Just like Margarito beat down Cotto and that’s why Manny fought Cotto. Manny has the highest cherrypick index of any fighter in history.

Posted December 4, 2013 4:21 am 


Two Piece

Margarito was a cheater case closed.

Posted December 4, 2013 4:18 am 


Old Coot

Floyd was ducking pre-cheat, undefeated, Margarito by fake retirement in 2007, while he was ducking the IRS!! LOL!!

Posted December 4, 2013 4:17 am 


Two Piece

Old Coot – since or sense, either ways Floyd beat that fellow women beater like his daddy. RIP!

Posted December 4, 2013 4:17 am 


Old Coot

Margocheato was a tank, that Manny should not be fighting… And Clottey is a great fighter who felt the power and clammed up… Like Floyd will do! LOL!!

Posted December 4, 2013 4:15 am 


Two Piece

or a diluted Margacheato for a bogus title, or peekaboo Clottey all on PPV with crap undercards. Get real!

Posted December 4, 2013 4:13 am 


Old Coot

At least Rios has a warrior chin and heart… Khan goes down with a love tap! Which is why Floyd wants him for his pillow mitts, shot up with Vegas pain killers! LOL!!

Posted December 4, 2013 4:12 am 


Old Coot

MJames: I been Boycotting Floyd sense Gatti!

Posted December 4, 2013 4:11 am 


Two Piece

More insulting than Rios on PPV with a crap undercard.

Posted December 4, 2013 4:10 am 


MJames

Everyone should boycott Khan v Floyd if the fight gets made, it will be the biggest insult to boxing and boxing fans ever.

Posted December 4, 2013 4:08 am 


Old Coot

No Piece… Floyd is only planning how to rob his gullible fans with another boring fight… Like YOU, while still ducking Pacman for all it’s worth, like a chicken!

Posted December 4, 2013 4:08 am 


Two Piece

Floyd is planning his next payday while Pac is broke and still a slave.

Posted December 4, 2013 4:05 am 


Old Coot

Bottom Line, Floyd would sooner drag his nutsack though broken razor blades, dunk em in gasoline then run through Hell naked, than to fight Manny!

Posted December 4, 2013 4:01 am 


Two Piece

Pac is not the P4P champion, nor a champion but a toothless, broke ass, wife cheating, tax evading midget slaving for Arum.

Posted December 4, 2013 4:01 am 


Old Coot

Two Piece… HAAAH!!!

Posted December 4, 2013 4:00 am 


Two Piece

It’s 2013, moron. Try keep up.

Posted December 4, 2013 3:57 am 


Two Piece

Nah dude, you are senseless when the name Pac is mentioned.

Posted December 4, 2013 3:56 am 


Old Coot

Floyd went to jail for woman beating once… Should have been thrice, for attacking a security guard, and for tax evasion in 2007! LOL!!

Posted December 4, 2013 3:54 am 


Two Piece

Old Coot – tell that to Pac whose cents are going to the taxman & Bob slimy Arum.

Posted December 4, 2013 3:52 am 


Old Coot

Floyd is rendered senseless, every time the name Pacquiao come up!

Posted December 4, 2013 3:51 am 


Two Piece

It’s senseless to get punched in the head to make money for Arum.

Posted December 4, 2013 3:49 am 


Old Coot

Two Piece is clearly a Voyd fan… As he makes minus zero sense!! LOL!!

Posted December 4, 2013 3:48 am 


Two Piece

It makes sense to dump Arum and be your own Boss, see Floyd & ODH.

Posted December 4, 2013 3:48 am 


Old Coot

It’s still “senseless”… dummy!

Posted December 4, 2013 3:47 am 


Two Piece

Next step, dump Arum. Let’s see whose gona punch the midget into that wise decision. LMFAO

Posted December 4, 2013 3:45 am 


Two Piece

RBT is a not an issue no more since Dinamita punched him ” into his senses “

Posted December 4, 2013 3:44 am 


Old Coot

Why do you need unconventional RBT for a quote- “washed-p has-been” who is supposedly not even in your class?… Huh FLOYD?!!… Or should I say Voyd!

Posted December 4, 2013 3:42 am 


Two Piece

Old Coot – you need a brain.

Posted December 4, 2013 3:41 am 


Old Coot

Floyd can’t keep using the RBT, crap… It only shows he’s scared to fight a quote- “washed up, has-been” (Floyd’s words) who as Manny himself said on ESPN 2, should be an easy fight for Floyd… Ya KNOW?!! LOL!!

Posted December 4, 2013 3:40 am 


Two Piece

Stupidity not to is unacceptable as proven by Pac himself by requesting Rios.

Posted December 4, 2013 3:39 am 


Two Piece

REM – How can mutually applied RBT be unacceptable?

Posted December 4, 2013 3:38 am 


Old Coot

Well, Piece… At least I can spell… You need schooling… REAL BAD! Just like Manny will do Floyd!!

Posted December 4, 2013 3:36 am 


Old Coot

HAAH!! Feather-fisted” Bradley is why pillow mitts, Zylocaine shooting Floyd will choose him first!

Posted December 4, 2013 3:35 am 


Two Piece

Oh well done, you can spell.Clap!!!!

Posted December 4, 2013 3:35 am 


Two Piece

Perhaps he requires to get smashed again, bring Provodnikov,oh I forgot featherfisted Bradley is next. Pfft.

Posted December 4, 2013 3:31 am 


Old Coot

Two Piece: It’s spelled “ignorance”… Are you in the 2nd grade or what?

Posted December 4, 2013 3:31 am 


REM

Two piece your barking up the wrong tree I criticized Arum and Pac when they made those comments but offering 40 mil flat to Pac when at that time Pac had sold more ppvs was a joke of an offer. See one is a stupid comment but the other was a ridiculous demand made to purpously avoid the fight. That was the trend Arum and Pac made a couple of stupid comment while Floyd made unacceptable demands. The demands impede negotiations not the comments.

Posted December 4, 2013 3:29 am 


Old Coot

Two piece is a typical Floydiot… Ignorant and overpaid… Well, at least Floyd is overpaid!!

Posted December 4, 2013 3:29 am 


Two Piece

” misundetstanding ” pfft, ignorace truly is bliss, fool.

Posted December 4, 2013 3:29 am 


Two Piece

Pac is too dumb like his fans, why is he still with Arum?

Posted December 4, 2013 3:27 am 


Old Coot

@ Two Piece: Ignorance it bliss for Floydiots… How quickly you forget the warrant from the IRS for Floyd’s tax evading ass in 2007! At least Manny’s tax flap is likely just at misunderstanding between nations… Floyd intentionally evaded his!! And he knew better!! LOL!!

Posted December 4, 2013 3:27 am 


Two Piece

into his senses, to take rbt. dumb ass.

Posted December 4, 2013 3:25 am 


Two Piece

He is fighting for free, money goes to the taxman & Bob.

Posted December 4, 2013 3:23 am 


Old Coot

Two Piece: I think you meant he quickly punched him senseless! Damn SON!!

Posted December 4, 2013 3:21 am 


Old Coot

Two Piece: I think you meant he quickly punched him sensless! Damn SON!!

Posted December 4, 2013 3:20 am 


Old Coot

Manny said he will fight for free… Floyd said he had to pay HIM!!

Posted December 4, 2013 3:18 am 


Two Piece

Midget be requesting bums for rbt tests, and begging TBE for 80/20 split to pay the taxman. Bwaaaaaah.

Posted December 4, 2013 3:17 am 


Old Coot

REM: Yep! Floyd pisses his Huggies at the mere mention of the Pacman!!

Posted December 4, 2013 3:16 am 


Two Piece

Old Coot – Dinamita quickly punched him into his senses. Bwaaaaaaaah.

Posted December 4, 2013 3:15 am 


Old Coot

Two Piece: You obviously don’t care about the facts… Only trying to get a rise outta somebody! Be gone FOOL!!

Posted December 4, 2013 3:15 am 


Two Piece

Or just scared of dumping Top Stink & Arum and being his own BOSS making money for himself.

Posted December 4, 2013 3:14 am 


Old Coot

Hmmm… It is a testament to a real fighter that Manny, who knew Marquez had hired a known and convicted, PED cheat, in Angel Heredia… But still Manny didn’t pussy out like Floyd and demand anything approaching what Floyd did in the way of testing… Which Floyd did with NO/ZERO evidence, or failed tests, NOR even so much as a rumor of Manny EVER cheating, whatsoever!! HUH?

Posted December 4, 2013 3:13 am 


Two Piece

REM – what, scared of needles and getting paid $40M for a fight?

Posted December 4, 2013 3:12 am 


Two Piece

Old Coot – that same cheater was supplying Pac’s S & C coach. Bwaaahhhh.

Posted December 4, 2013 3:10 am 


Two Piece

Funny how the midget is suddenly over his phobia of needles.

Posted December 4, 2013 3:08 am 


REM

Old Coot lol its to easy Floyd gives you so much ammo. Cmon if we go into everything (self preservation, sign with tmt, must train in the U.S) the debate is over Floyds scared.

Posted December 4, 2013 3:07 am 


Two Piece

Cherrypicking a 39yr old backfired. Bwaaaah!!!!!

Posted December 4, 2013 3:05 am 


Two Piece

Funny how you didn’t notice that cheater when cheating Marquez on their 3rd fight.

Posted December 4, 2013 3:04 am 


Old Coot

Two Piece: Funny how it took Marquez hiring a convicted cheater to finally KD and KO Manny… Huh?

Posted December 4, 2013 2:59 am 


Two Piece

Old Coot – ” lucky punch”, make that 2, or you forgot.

Posted December 4, 2013 2:57 am 


Old Coot

REM: Keep on schooling em!

Posted December 4, 2013 2:55 am 


REM

Canelo is a nobody he hit Mosley over and over not dropping him Pac had Mosley seeing stars with one short left big diffference between Canelo and Pac.

Posted December 4, 2013 2:52 am 


Old Coot

@Tark… I was not “implying” any such thing… I MEANT that Leonard AVOIDED Pryor with stall tactics, just like Mayweather is trying to do with Pacman.. Like say how a drug dealer might use a decoy to stall DEA while he escapes on a Flight to Colombia or some place without extradition, never to be seen again! SEE?! Anyway, subsequent to Sugar’s stall tactics, Pryor never got his well-deserved shot at the greatness he should have had… So SRL got to keep his legacy, most likely undeservedly… And in fact the slight that Leonard did to Pryor drove Aaron to turn to dope and ruin his career prematurely.

Posted December 4, 2013 2:49 am 


Ray Ray

Old coot-ok whatever…..il b the 1 saying i told u so in 2015. At best itl b 2014 with mannys last fight 4 Arum…..oh no fancy Floyd asking 4 olympic style drug tests 4 a pro athelite, how dare he. Who won Leonard vs Pryor?

Posted December 4, 2013 2:48 am 


REM

Lol I see that one made a Floyd fan mad dude I read your post earlier you said Cotto and Oscar were catchweights Oscar wasn’t and where do you get 3mil from they’re messing with your head bro lol.

Posted December 4, 2013 2:48 am 


Anonymous

This fight was always about money. Back when pac was on top he turned down 30 mil cash. He said he wanted 50/50 Arum is a pimp. Floyd will never side with Arum too many egos. Right now Floyd is the man on top. So he can fight a Canelo or Kahn and make 200 mil for bith fight way would he sacrifice for Arum or Manny. He is the one undefeated and if it dont make dollars it dont make cents. Arum greed and inability to negociate with Oscar or anyone else derailed it 3 years ago now Manny is on the decline and his window is closed. Southpaw Floyd beat southpaws all his life,. Marquez KOED manny Floyd will kill him. Alverez was 10x more danerous than Manny and he schooled him all night.

Posted December 4, 2013 2:44 am 


redz

mayweather doesnt. hes just a greedy bald head no eyebrows looking negro!

Posted December 4, 2013 2:42 am 


Tark

Old Coot : You were implying that Leonard waited before he fought Pryor. But the fact is they never met

Posted December 4, 2013 2:42 am 


Old Coot

REM: PREACH!!!!!!

Posted December 4, 2013 2:38 am 


Old Coot

And Tark… You probably never heard of “The Hawk” Pryor, till I mentioned him! LOL!

Posted December 4, 2013 2:38 am 


Anonymous

Poor Pactards Manny hold no cards Arum does Manny makes 3 mil a fight Floyd makes 100+. Anyone can look good against Rios who stands right in front and takes shots all night. Manny need to go at Garcia or Broner then we can talk about Mayweather Manny has trouble with feather punching Bradley and washed up Marquez.

Posted December 4, 2013 2:36 am 


REM

Again Arum isn’t the problem the problem is Pacs an A level southpaw. If Floyd could handle Pac with ease he wouldve buried the hated Arums cash cow.

Posted December 4, 2013 2:35 am 


Old Coot

Poor Tark… As kids, you buy em books and send em to a good public school, but they slap the teacher then smoke meth behind the gym!

Posted December 4, 2013 2:32 am 


Tark

Tark : In regards to all your hokey posts, I use the words of Paul Simon : “Lie-la-lie…..lie-la-lie……” No pun intended on “lie”

Posted December 4, 2013 2:29 am 


Old Coot

And Tark? You are aware that you can use stalling tactics to avoid something… Right?!… Well… Apparently not! LOL!!

Posted December 4, 2013 2:27 am 


Old Coot

Tark… Yep… Just like FLOYD… AVOID at ALL COSTS!! Clown!!

Posted December 4, 2013 2:26 am 


Tark

Old Coot – You said Leonard used a “stalling tactic” against Pryor…..more like pure avoidance……MORON

Posted December 4, 2013 2:21 am 


Old Coot

Tark: EXACTLY… Seem like the same route Floyd will take… IDIOT!!

Posted December 4, 2013 2:18 am 


Tark

Old Coot – Leonard never faced Pryor, you boxing ignoramus.

Posted December 4, 2013 2:17 am 


Old Coot

Ray Ray: Arum, Smarum… Floyd started the phony PED demands out of fear… NOT ARUM!!

Posted December 4, 2013 2:17 am 


Old Coot

Titopa: If Floyd joined Arum again… We’d finally have the damned FIGHT!!

Posted December 4, 2013 2:14 am 


REM

Lets remember Floyds also a promoter I wonder how he matches up against them financially lol.

Posted December 4, 2013 2:13 am 


Ray Ray

This record still playing? 2015 after mannys contract is done with Bob until than, change the song.

Posted December 4, 2013 2:12 am 


Old Coot

Tomato Can Stan: Yep… Floyd knows Manny will be Cotto X2!!!

Posted December 4, 2013 2:12 am 


Tomato Can Stan

Pacquiao smoked Cotto and de la Hoya, whereas Mayweather struggled with them.

Posted December 4, 2013 2:10 am 


Old Coot

REM: AMEN!!!

Posted December 4, 2013 2:10 am 


REM

Floyd has no respect for his fans he tests them to see how far can he go with his bs. First he doesn’t distinguish between those who love him and those who hate him he considers all as paying customers. He tells blatent lies like Canelo asked for the catchweight and laughs as his fans defend it. Remember Pac your next one day then no I didn’t say that the next with no backlash from his fans. Last of course denying his fans the Pac fight offering a ridiculous 40mil flat fee even though at the time Pac had surpassed him in revenue generated in Floyds own country alone. True definition of a cult following blind followers who will repeat whatever he says no matter how ridiculous. Oh I almost forgot the fans don’t pay my bills ROTF….

Posted December 4, 2013 2:09 am 


Tomato Can Stan

Titopa – You used the best key verb to describe Floyd in performance : “snoring”

Posted December 4, 2013 2:07 am 


Titopa

Old Coot – why do you think Floyd ditched Arum? Why do you think Arum hates Floyd? It’s clear as crystal…Floyd was tired of Arum calling the shots, Floyd became his own boss and now…well, he’s the highest paid athlete in the world…Manny’s broke self can learn a thing or two!

Posted December 4, 2013 2:06 am 


Old Coot

Titopa: Manny will be two in a row! Trust me!!! LOL!!

Posted December 4, 2013 2:06 am 


Old Coot

Floyd will never fight Manny because he knows losing a close bout to Manny and he gets one or maybe a rubber match to cash in on…. But lose BIG to Manny, and he knows it’s all over!! Legacy, ZERO, and PPV draw ALL down the pisser!! LOL!!

Posted December 4, 2013 2:05 am 


Titopa

Old Coot – Good luck waiting for Floyd to lose two fights…especially one with him face down snoring LOL it’ll never happen…Manny’s gonna go on to be matched with a slow footed punching bag again (Margarito & Rios) to look “good”, making 18 million while Arum rapes him for half…he should ditch Arum and fight Floyd for 40 mill PLUS!!!!!

Posted December 4, 2013 2:02 am 


Old Coot

Floyd used the phrase “Talk to my promoter” plenty himself under Arum!! LOL!!

Posted December 4, 2013 2:00 am 


Old Coot

Damn!!! Trying to type too fast… I was trying to say- Boring ass Floyd can lose 2 fights and his PPV is t-h-u!

Posted December 4, 2013 1:58 am 


Titopa

Old Coot – Manny’s excuse is “my daddy won’t let me”, remember, only ONE man has a boss who calls the shots and gets 20% of their check taken…the other, fights who he wants and when he wants…oh, and he keeps almost all of his money too. Arum wont accept 60/40, guess he doesn’t want it, he rather have 20% of Pac’s purse and 20% of Bradley for a rematch the NO ONE wanted to see…according to Arum himself. You believe who you want

Posted December 4, 2013 1:57 am 


Old Coot

Boring ass can Floyd lose 2 fights and he is t-h-u!

Posted December 4, 2013 1:56 am 


Old Coot

@ Titopa… Oh yeah… Boring ass Floyd loses 2 fights and he t-h-u… Through!! Manny can lose 3 in a row and still be a star!!!

Posted December 4, 2013 1:54 am 


REM

I posted the #s before Pac 9.9 mil ppvs 525mil $ after Pac vs Marquez 3 Floyd 9.6 mil ppvs 540mil $ after the Cotto fight. This means when Floyd offered the 40 mil flat fee Pac had surpassed Floyd with the Bradley fight. Since Floyd has done 3mil ppvs while Pac has done 2 mil we’re waiting for the Rios #s which will put Pac close to 3mil ppvs their neck and neck in domestic ppvs alone. Millions more are generated by Pac in global broadcasting revenue could’nt find those exact #s just that its in the millions. Floyd does global broadcasting revenue also just not like Pac.

Posted December 4, 2013 1:53 am 


Old Coot

I meant he got out “too” early.

Posted December 4, 2013 1:51 am 


Titopa

Old Coot – Amazing how someone with the “gag factor” can make so much and be so rich lol

Posted December 4, 2013 1:51 am 


Old Coot

Floyd got out of jail to early… He should have served more time for robbing fans with boring ass fights and sucker punch KOs!!

Posted December 4, 2013 1:50 am 


Old Coot

Tomato Can Stan: Yep… And Leonard also stalled to avoid Aaron Pryor, who Pac reminds me of a LOT, too!

Posted December 4, 2013 1:48 am 


Old Coot

Based on entertainment value alone, Manny is a thrill ride and Floyd is a vomit comet, which means in reality, Manny deserves more… But we know the prima-donna Floyd will cry too much!

Posted December 4, 2013 1:46 am 


Tomato Can Stan

Titopa – Roger Mayweather wants Pacquiao to fight more before he gets to his nephew, which we all know is a stalling tactic to wait until Pacquiao is old and washed up, much like the same tactic Leonard used before he finally faced Hagler. Pacquiao has already defeated all top ranked fighters; he’s more than earned a shot at Mayweather. I see, china-chinned and front runner Khan gets a shot at Floyd, but not Pacquiao who has a more distinguished record.

Posted December 4, 2013 1:43 am 


Old Coot

Manny could offer to fight for free, & to cut his wrist in rd 6 for a blood-test, & Floyd will still concoct a new excuse! LOL!!

Posted December 4, 2013 1:42 am 


REM

While Pac has matched Floyd in domestic ppv revenue the money generated in international broacasting revenue is in the millions most likey putting Pac ahead of Floyd in overall revenue drawn.

Posted December 4, 2013 1:41 am 


Old Coot

Titopa: LOL!! Delusional much? Why does to matter… One’s a draw for the gag factor (Floyd) and the other’s a draw for the Thrill factor (Manny)! Big difference!!

Posted December 4, 2013 1:37 am 


Titopa

REM – show me the numbers or it never happened…cause if you sell MORE PPV’s, the you made more. Period. “right there” isn’t “there” either.

Posted December 4, 2013 1:36 am 


Titopa

Tomato Can Stan – which is why he deserves 60/40 in favor….no questions asked! Buy Arum will NEVER accept that. So, there you have it.

Posted December 4, 2013 1:35 am 


REM

Titopa that’s just not true it is documented that Pac has matched Floyd in revenue generated every step of the way. Floyd takes home more because he’s his own promoter but in revenue generated Pac is right there.

Posted December 4, 2013 1:34 am 


Titopa

Typos! *if they and *hate him

Posted December 4, 2013 1:33 am 


Tomato Can Stan

Titopa – Tark asked why Mayweather drew more, and I provided an answer to his question.

Posted December 4, 2013 1:32 am 


Titopa

Old Coot – “why?” doesn’t matter, of they sat at a table and threw their PPV numbers down on it to compare…it’s a FACT that Floyd will be higher, and that’s ALL THAT MATTERS!! Do you think Showtime gave Floyd the richest contact in boxing history cause people hate humor wanna see him lose? NO, they did so cause he generates millions and millions. Nuff said!!!

Posted December 4, 2013 1:32 am 


Titopa

Tomato Can Stan – WHY they pay doesn’t matter…Manny can’t take “I’m more dynamic” to yhe bank now can he? At the end of the day…the question is, who generates more money? Be the answer/FACT is Floyd, unquestionably!!!!

Posted December 4, 2013 1:28 am 


Old Coot

@Tark: Dude… How many times I gotta tell your ass that Floyd only earns more, because most people pay hoping to see his ass lose?… Because it sure as Hell ain’t to see Floyd FIGHT!!! LOL!!

Whereas MOST people pay to see Manny fight and entertain… Win or lose!!

And trust me… THAT, is why Floyd keeps making up all these “REASONS” to not fight Manny… Because Floyd knows losing to him will be the death of his own PPV marketability and superiority, whereas Manny would still draw big either way!!

Posted December 4, 2013 1:26 am 


Titopa

Sheriff Joe’s chicken – Agreed

Posted December 4, 2013 1:26 am 


Tomato Can Stan

Tark – The reason why Mayweather draws more profit is because fans want to finally see him defeated (seriously). There is no doubt that Pacquiao is a more exciting and dynamic fighter and much more personable and friendly. Manny is a class act; he’s never done anything remotely rude or wildly out of line, like so many boxers

Posted December 4, 2013 1:25 am 


Titopa

Hec Dog – IF Manny is the bigger draw, why does Floyd make almost twice as much and why are his PPV numbers mich higher? Answer that.

Posted December 4, 2013 1:24 am 


TARK

Hec Dog.., Floyd draws way better than Pacquiao and makes way more money per fight than Pacquiao does… That’s what is called a fact. Pacquiao even acknowledged these facts and said Floyd is entitled to more money—and said that is fine with him. So stop saying Pac is the bigger global draw.

You’re entitled to your own opinions … not your own facts.

Posted December 4, 2013 1:16 am 


Old Coot

Hec Dog: Thanks! And yep… Manny is truly the salt of the earth! Whereas Floyd is just an old salty dog!

Posted December 4, 2013 1:06 am 


Old Coot

@ Tomato Can Stan: Yep! You nailed IT!! Manny looked better in his last fight with Marquez than in all the other three… And until he got caught with a lucky shot, he was headed for a clear UD!!! One thing for certain, Floyd fans were nervous that Manny was dominating Marquez too… So they were online dancing on manny’s fallen figure, because after the KO they could save Floyd from a beatdown, by preaching what they all are now… That because of the Bradley loss (ROBBERY) and the Marquez KO, suddenly Pacquiao doesn’t deserve to fight Floyd… Even though, Manny could lose four in a row and this fight would STILL be bigger than all Ali-Frazier’s combined.

Posted December 4, 2013 1:04 am 


Uppa Kut

F*** this fight… It no longer matters..It could have done so much good for the sport but the fighters and promoters decided that didn’t matter..OK, now the fans are saying you waited to long and now YOU don’t matter..

Posted December 4, 2013 1:03 am 


Anonymous

F*** this fight… It no longer matters..It could have done so much good for the sport but the fighters and promoters decided that didn’t matter..OK, now the fans are saying you waited to long and now YOU don’t matter..

Posted December 4, 2013 1:03 am 


Jim Rich

The fighters just need to make this happen, forget the promoters. Forget oh I will just do what my promoter wants as pacman says after every fight, lame. Like pac had a labotomy, oh I just do best to fight good my promoter picks my fights, lol, don’t make me laugh. Pac and may if they keep fighting then we should see the fight. I feel pac is not long for the game nor is mayweather, time to make it happen. Better late than never but truth is they are ego driven fighters that care more about themselves than their fans. Boxing is barbaric as others have mention, maybe we should just start banning it anyways, how about that.

Posted December 4, 2013 1:01 am 


Sheriff Joe’s chicken

Titopa- yea I know man. 80/20 seems ridiculous but hey if the Pacquioa camp wants the fight that may be the only road left for them. I mean that widow of opportunity has passed up Pacqauioa. He should have brushed off the whole mind games of OSDT and just done it. That way, Mayweather wouldnt have a way out. Mayweather is all buisness and Pacquioa is still learning from his uncle Bob Arum. The thing is Mayweather DOES NOT want Arum to make any profit from his fights. Bob Arum is getting the public to put pressure on Mayweather and Mayweather knows how to play the villian part right. Hes a natural so he doesnt feel like he needs to rush the fight and give Arum any money. Seriously. Thats why I say 80/20 for Mayweather……

Posted December 4, 2013 12:57 am 


Hec Dog

Titopa my friend, Manny Pacquiao world wide is the much bigger draw. People will come to see Manny not Mayweather. Look at manny’s sponsors, he’s a great congressman, singer, actor, model and gets invited to see the President at his residence. He laces the cover of TIME Magazine. How many sponsors does Mayweather have? Did he get invited to see the President? Is he a congressman? Now tell me who’s more popular. Manny has o much more to offer the world than Mayweather. Manny turns down tv appearances, Floyd begs for them. Seriously, Manny would easily be the draw if they were to fight. There’s no question about that.

Posted December 4, 2013 12:56 am 


Titopa

Sheriff Joe’s chicken – LOL yeah, of course he could do more…like donate, but you can’t hate the man for doing something, after all, printing thousands of shirts and shipping them isn’t cheap. That’s more than a lot of celebrities have done.

Posted December 4, 2013 12:55 am 


Titopa

Hec Dog – Manny is a great human being..no question, but a LOWSY business man, he’s broke as a joke cause he let Arum “pay his taxes” lol. no wonder Oscar and Floyd dumped him…look at them now and poor old Manny still owes Arum more money.

Posted December 4, 2013 12:52 am 


Tomato Can Stan

Old Coot – They criticized Pacquiao for drawing close with Marquez three times. So when he stepped up and took the risk, they lambasted him for suffering the KO, as if he was finished for all time. It overshadows the fact that he was giving Marquez a pasting until he walked into that punch and that he truly defeated Bradley. Of course, Pacquiao’s detractors will use these two superficial losses against him. But what I saw against Rios, a dangerous fighter, Pacquiao is far from finished. I’ve been watching boxing since the early 1980′s and I can tell you that Pacquiao is an all-time great. He just steamrolled through top elite fighters on an antonishing winning streak. Taking a sustained beating over 12 rounds is far worse and damaging than suffering a one-puch KO.

Posted December 4, 2013 12:51 am 


Sheriff Joe’s chicken

Titopa- didnt know that about the donation and shirts. Good to know. All buisness for Mayweather. That guy reminds me of a friend that I know who seems stingy all the time but really is a very smart man when it comes to his money investments and buisnesses. ( still stingy…lol) Thanks for sharing.

Posted December 4, 2013 12:50 am 


Hec Dog

Great post Old Coot, Manny does more to help people than anyone. Manny is class all the way.

Posted December 4, 2013 12:49 am 


Titopa

Sheriff Joe’s chicken – 80/20? Lol Arum scoffed at 60/40, he wants it 50/50 oe he won’t event bother…therefore, it’ll never happen…cause as big as Manny is, Floyd is the PPV king, he shouldn’t have to take less than a 60/40 split in his favor.

Posted December 4, 2013 12:49 am 


Sheriff Joe’s chicken

I SAID IT BEFORE and I will say it again. Mayweather hates Arum and it Pacquioa’s fault for not realizing it. That’s the first step that Pacquioa needs to take in making the fight happen. The 2nd, is Pacquioa needs to SPEAK UP. He needs to start mouthing off at Mayweather and get his attention (yes, even more.) Really get under his skin. Just mess with his mind. I dont know if Freddie Roach has told Pacquioa to not pay attention to Mayweather and leave it alone but seriously with Mayweather you got to. Hes drama. He loves the attention (Mayweather). Let Pacquioa play the villian for once and Mayweather will come out to defend his honor(*). Its mind games. Then 80/20 split for Mayweather and thats how the fight would be made easily. IN theory…lol

Posted December 4, 2013 12:45 am 


Titopa

Tomato Can Stan – Go get your facts straight…he BORROWED money before his fight with Rios to donate to the Phillipinnes…he was broke before then. He had to apologize for not bring able to donate more, and by the way, Floyd sold shirts in which the money went to the disaster relief, again, get your facts straight.

Posted December 4, 2013 12:44 am 


Old Coot

What a question loaded with false parity! Pacquiao ALWAYS respects the fans!… You don’t hear him crying and whining when questioned about any subject. And you might even say he refuses to make unreasonable demands for a fight, risked permanent damage against Margarito. One could even determine that all Pacquiao’s bouts with Marquez were close and finally led to him being KO’d, precisely because he’s always trying to please the fans. Period!! Whether it’s good for him or not!! Hell, there is little doubt that Manny could have just used his speed and footwork to potshot Marquez and cruise to an easy UD. You know like the boring way Mayweather did when he robbed fans against Marquez… Yes MAYWEATHER! The one who clearly ONLY cares about his wallet and his overrated zero and couldn’t care less about them that filled his wallet.

Posted December 4, 2013 12:41 am 


Titopa

Hec Dog – Arum? The same guy who said there was NO interest in a Bradley rematch…but just now says “people wanna see the rematch”? Hmmm. Okay…believe him all you want, but I ain’t buying SQUAT that greedy man is selling. Just like I didn’t buy the whole “we’re building an outdoor stadium for this fight”…LOL

Posted December 4, 2013 12:41 am 


Tomato Can Stan

Titopa – Well, Manny’s broke because he’s donated so much to his native islands, especially after the natural disasters there. He’s done far much more for humanity than Mayweather, who’s to busy counting his shoe collection, which is a womanly habit if you ask me.

Posted December 4, 2013 12:41 am 


Sheriff Joe’s chicken

Hecdog, seeing how you advocate LOUDLY on behalf of Pacquiao, why dont you go and tell Floyd that? Find him on facebook and call him out. or twitter or heck, his page. Floyd knows what hes doing. He is STALLING but its because he hates Bob Arum. IMO, i think he (Mayweather) is stalling because Pacquioa called him out saying he is scared and now he is letting him wait UNTIL its a 80/20 split in Mayweather’s favor, of course. He DOES NOT want Arum to make a pretty penny. So YES Mayweather is STALLING and YES Pacquioa f’kd up by not conceding to random testing. We all know the Mayweathers are drama so why expect anything less? Thats Pacquioa’s fault now hes gonna bend over backwards for Mayweather because his window of opportunity just closed. -

Posted December 4, 2013 12:39 am 


Titopa

Sheriff Joe’s chicken – From the fighter?…yes! From the promoter?…No!

Posted December 4, 2013 12:38 am 


Hec Dog

Arum has recently said he’s doing everything he can to make this fight, but Mayweather and Haymon don’t want anything to do with it.

Posted December 4, 2013 12:38 am 


Sheriff Joe’s chicken

-”Two words: Bob Arum. They ask him “who’s nect for Manny?”, he answers, “that’s up to Manny”…they ask Manny “who do you want next?”, answers, “it’s up to my promoter”….and, there you go!-”

Ha, that is the typical answer, isnt it?

Posted December 4, 2013 12:36 am 


Titopa

Manny doesn’t need Top Rank…he can fight whoever he wants and whenever he wants, he has the power, but he’s willing to let Bob Arum not only call the shots, but rob him blind of all his money!! Poor Manny is broke as a joke, and yet for some strange reason he keeps signing on that dotted like that says “I get 20% of your purse and I make the decisions…for another year”…meanwhile, he’s being matched with ONLY Top Rank fighters that favor him and Arum’s greedy pockets.

Posted December 4, 2013 12:33 am 


Titopa

Hec Dog – “forget Top Rank”?? Wait, that’s Manny’s BOSS, they tell him what to do…according to him, he has NO say in who he fights. Funny how Floyd says he’s gonna fight in May, well before any talks of an opponent…then Pac beats Rios and Arum says “he’ll return in April”? NO MENTION of fighting Floyd….only Manny says it, but Top Rank is like “no, you’re gonna fight Bradley again, this way I can take 20% of your purse and 20% of his”

Posted December 4, 2013 12:28 am 


Hec Dog

All the Manny Pacquiao haters will always blame someone else but Floyd Mayweather for the fight not happening. Floyd is 100% to blame. All he has to do is sign the dotted line and make the fight. Forget about the Arums and Top Rank and all this other stuff. If you think you can beat Manny Pacquiao, make the fight. Don’t let your ego get in the way. Do a 50/50 split on everything. In the end, the fighters make the decision. What’s Floyd so worried about? Not enough money for his greedy self? He can’t stand Arum? So what, beat Pacquiao and you don’t have to worry about him again. The truth is that he’s scared. When this fight was first mentioned, Floyd and his family came up with so many ridiculous comments like Manny is on something or Floyd wants a level playing field and wants to keep his health, Floyd Sr was cared to death of Manny as was Roger. Since then, they have continued with their fearful and ridicules reasons, and no one is buying it anymore. I sure haven’t heard one word from Floyd regarding Manny Pacquiao, but I’ve heard everyone ele in the media as well as fighters speak about the fight that should be Floyd’s next fight. Floyd say nothing, which only adds to the truth of the matter, which is, he’s afraid and always has been. Floyd Sr saw what Manny had vs Rios, and he complimented Manny. Mike Tyson himself said that Manny is boxing most exciting fighter today. And he’s questioned Mayweather’s refusal to fight him. Nothing more needs to be said about this fight. Floyd Mayweather ha lost so much respect and will continue to do so as he fights low level cailber fighters like Amir Khan if the rumors are true. The entire sport of boxing will laugh at Floyd if they end up fighting.

Posted December 4, 2013 12:23 am 


Titopa

Two words: Bob Arum. They ask him “who’s nect for Manny?”, he answers, “that’s up to Manny”…they ask Manny “who do you want next?”, answers, “it’s up to my promoter”….and, there you go!

Posted December 4, 2013 12:22 am 


Anonymous

Tacheyon and his victim mentality.

Posted December 4, 2013 12:22 am 


Thrashnephilim

Tachyon, 90% of the EU? I guess when you smell your own defecation for so long, you get used to the smell.

Posted December 4, 2013 12:00 am 


Thrashnephilim

Public enemy has alot to offer to the conversation. A true Rhodes Scholar.

Posted December 3, 2013 11:57 pm 


Tachyon

No because half of you good for nothing fans are fickle and the other half are racist well EU 90% are racist avoid EU at all cost.

Posted December 3, 2013 11:29 pm 


Public Enemy

fake Thrashnephilim

Posted December 3, 2013 11:23 pm 


Thrashnephilim

It’s time for these two… If not now, when?!?

Posted December 3, 2013 11:20 pm 


Public Enemy

fake tumbo

Posted December 3, 2013 11:06 pm 


Floyd Xylocaine Mayweather

Ps xylocaine is banned in the Olympics.
Ms xylocaine has sensitive hands I guess they are not meant for boxing lol

Posted December 3, 2013 11:00 pm 


Floyd Xylocaine Mayweather

Ms Xylocaine is famous for her brittle hands and hand strength is a big factor in boxing as u fight with ur hands, so why not fight without numbing them.

If her hands can not take the pain when they hit someone then boxing is not the sport for Ms Xylocaine.

She needs to step up to the plate.

some say Ms Xylocaine has best conditioning in the sport etc but then
Ms Xylocaine came over weight limit for her fight with Marquez and so I guess all her “hard work hard work” chants are bs lol

Posted December 3, 2013 10:51 pm 


TARK

Xylocaine says…, “Well looks like none of you have put on the gloves and hit a punching bag for that matter, otherwise you would have known that when you hit a punching bag hard, in return your hands feel the hurt too, you will feel the pain.”

I could hit a heavy bag pretty damned hard with my bare fists, and make it boom without hurting my hands… But if your hands are properly wrapped, and you have good bag gloves on, you will not hurt your hands if you punch correctly. Unless you have bad hands. Some boxers go for 15, 20 years without hurting their hands. It’s paying attention to what you’re doing.

Posted December 3, 2013 10:50 pm 


Public Enemy

Hi guys, Public Enemy here. Like I said I only talk crap about mexicans because they tease me alot here in my neighborhood. If you take a closer look even when the discussion isnt about mexican fighters I still; like a sore loser, come in here and spill my hatred towards them( mexicans ) I never talk mess about any other fighter ( Pacquioa, Mayweather, Kiltschkos…etc.) So Please accept my apology for my ignorance and my people; for we belong in a zoo somewhere in Wisconsin. I know I say I have mexican friends but thats all make believe because the only friends I make are with the neighborhood’s mexican boots in my culoooo!!!

Regards,
Public Enemy

Posted December 3, 2013 10:44 pm 


Tomato Can

If you numb your hands with xylocain and hit the heavy bag, spar and fight, you’ll injure hands and no longer be able to compete. I’m sure Mayweather has used xylocain, but if he used as much as fans on this site think he does then he’d been done a long time ago… Masking pain causes more severe injuries, nuff said.

Posted December 3, 2013 10:41 pm 


Floyd Xylocaine Mayweather

Well looks like none of you have put on the gloves and hit a punching bag for that matter, otherwise you would have known that when you hit a punching bag hard, in return your hands feel the hurt too, you will feel the pain.

When u numb ur hands you can hit harder and longer because you will not feel the impact/pain on ur hand.

since floyd is using the drug, Xyoclaine, he is NOT fighting with 100%natural human power. He is also not receiving 100% natural human pain since he is using a drug that makes his hands numb.

If I numb ur hands with Xyoclaine and u hit on a hard surface u will not feel way less pain on ur hands compaired to someone hitting a hard surface without pumping Well looks like non of you have put on the gloves and hit the a punching bag for that matter, otherwise you would have known that when you hit a punching bag hard, in return your hands hurt too, you will feel the pain.

When u numb ur hands you can hit harder and longer because you will not feel the impact/pain on ur hand.

since floyd is using the drug, Xyoclaine, he is NOT fighting with 100%natural human power. He is also not receiving 100% natural human pain since he is using a drug that makes his hands numb.

If I numb ur hands with Xyoclaine and u hit on a hard surface u will feel way way less pain on ur hands compaired to when u will be hitting the same surface without pumping Xyoclaine.

MAYWEATHER WANTS TO BE FAIR? I THINK HE IS THE ONE WHO IS NOT FAIR.

and ofcourse Ms Xyoclaine knows that her paper fans will always dance on her tunes no matter how dumb it looks.

If Ms Xyoclaine wants she can pump Xyoclaine in her a$$ and jaw too if that gets Ms Xyoclaine in the ring to fight Pac.

cool?

Posted December 3, 2013 10:34 pm 


TARK

Tumbo says.., “You’re once again lumping different eras together as if they were natural competitors, e.g., Ali v. Holmes? Hearns v. McCallum? Leonard v. Nunn?!?”

Holmes was the best heavyweight when Ali (36) fought the much younger, massively inexperienced, and unranked Spinks … When Ali finally fought Holmes the fight meant ZERO.. Holmes was 30. Ali was 38.. Guys with an 8 year age discrepancy fight all the time. They just don’t wait until one fighter is an old man, and basically make a fight that rips off of the fans.

McCallum is older than Hearns, and was a big threat to him. MM was certainly a more deserving opponent than Iran Barkley, who lost to most all the top fighters he faced.

Nunn was the top middleweight contender for Leonard—a natural matchup that many thought was the best fight that could be made.

Posted December 3, 2013 10:30 pm 


Anonymous

Hec you dont know the sport bro your a Mayweather hater. Top ranks Bob Arum is totally to blame. Look at the history of Top rank he pits all his fighters agaisnt one another when was the last time a Top Rank managed fight fought outside the camp? Bradley and Manny are owned by Arum so he puts Manny in with Bradley and Marquez 5. Manny was offered 30 mil to fight Floyd and turned it down he refused to take blood tests and want to me at a catch weight thats why the fight never happen. Oscar even tried working something out with Arum back when Manny was on top. De la hoya Mayweather and Cotto were all at top rank and could never land big bouts thats why they left. But this article is a piece of garbage. Manny is not the same killer he once was he couldnt dispatch Bradley who can punch or a washed up Marquez nor a punching bag Rios simply he is not nor never been on Floyds level. People who dont know about boxing use excuses like fear when the reality of it is it takes alot to make fights happen and the promoter Bob Arum with his greed killed this one back when it had steam. Now no one wants to see it excpet for these pactards. Manny vs. Rios was a joke and the ppv sales sucked. Arum will put Manny back in with Bradley them Marquez 5 he wants no parts of Golden boy or floyd. Folyd called out Manny many times. It took 2 yrs before he could get a match with Oscar why because of Arum. De la Hoya and Cotto both couldnt fight Mayweather until they left Arum and unfortunately Manny is the new Oscar. He only has 3 fights left in him and I bet the farm they will be all with Top rank. No Broner No Danny Garcia or anyone esle not on top rank Hec you have no knowledge

Posted December 3, 2013 10:22 pm 


Sheriff Joe’s chicken

Hecdog, seeing how you advocate LOUDLY on behalf of Pacquiao, why dont you go and tell Floyd that? Find him on facebook and call him out. or twitter or heck, his page. Floyd knows what hes doing. He is STALLING but its because he hates Bob Arum. IMO, i think he (Mayweather) is stalling because Pacquioa called him out saying he is scared and now he is letting him wait UNTIL its a 80/20 split in Mayweather’s favor, of course. He DOES NOT want Arum to make a pretty penny. So YES Mayweather is STALLING and YES Pacquioa f’kd up by not conceding to random testing. We all know the Mayweathers are drama so why expect anything less? Thats Pacquioa’s fault now hes gonna bend over backwards for Mayweather because his window of opportunity just closed.

Posted December 3, 2013 10:17 pm 


Hec Dog

The one guy to blame is Floyd Mayweather. Forget all of his lousy excuses. Manny Pacquiao has fought them all and his credibility is much, much stronger than Mayweathers. The last I’ve heard, Manny has been wanting to fight Floyd, but Floyd never stands up to tell anyone the truth. Manny has been calling him out for year. The PEDS accusations from Floyd and his camp got them sued, and they all had to apologize. The Ped Mess article point directly at Floyd failing three tests, but he says nothing about that article written by a highly respected Thomas Hauser. Floyd has nothing to stand on. Money isn’t the issue for Manny and he has said so, but Floyd is nothing more than a greedy, egotistical selfish person that he seems to want to call all the shots, which will never happen. Manny Pacquiao is the talk of boxing. He doesn’t need Floyd Mayweather at all. History is currently writing the story of the possible Mega fight that has never happened up to this point between Floyd and Manny. Thus far, the fighter in question is Floyd Mayweather. His legacy is tarnished. He will be the only fighter that dodged his most dangerous opponent that would have made the biggest Mega Fight of all time. Yes, Floyd Mayweather can still help himself and his legacy if he agrees to a fight that is already 5 years past its prime. Today, many of the past and present fighters all agree that Floyd is scared of fighting Manny Pacquiao. They don’t understand how a fighter that says he’s the best and will fight the fight fans want continues to avoid Manny Pacquiao. They can’t fathom that question. Floyd has plenty of money, so it’s not that. He’s choosing to fight less quality fighters, so what does that say about Floyd? The answer is, he’s scared. I have always said that Floyd is a great athlete, but not a great fighter in the sense of the word. Duran, Robinson, Chavez, Arguello, Armstrong and other. Floyd is a great athlete that wins on his speed, reflexes and defense. He doesn’t technically fdo things right. He’s like Roy Jones Jr. Great athletic ability, but not technically sound at all. This fight will never happen. If only Floyd had the heart of a true fighter.

Posted December 3, 2013 10:03 pm 


Danny” Swinger ” Garcia

YES THEY SHOULD fight. Maweather vs Pacquioa.

Posted December 3, 2013 9:56 pm 


te tumbo

“Did Oscar De La Hoya fight Winky Wright when they were both 154-pound champions?” TARK, you’re right. only when both fighters have equally-established and prominent ring-resumes can one demand that one fight the other. otherwise, Winky was a lifelong jr. middleweight with several losses to B-level opponents when he was demanding a $elf-$erving showdown v. DLH. as IF DLH owed him a favor or something(?!). suffice it to say that DLH KO’d Vargas while Winky lost a boring decision to an even greener Vargas. meanwhile, you’re once again lumping different eras together as if they were natural competitors, e.g., Ali v. Holmes? Hearns v. McCallum? Leonard v. Nunn?!? you’re right. Ali, Hearns, and Leonard don’t “gotta” fight anybody that hasn’t put in the same amount of work and absorbed the same lumps and bumps as they already have.

Posted December 3, 2013 9:42 pm 


Anonymous

they dont give a crap about all the nerds that defend them and wouldn’t pi** on these geeks if they were on fire.

Posted December 3, 2013 9:40 pm 


TARK

They don’t have to fight… You’re dreaming if you think they “gotta fight.”

Did Oscar De La Hoya fight Winky Wright when they were both 154-pound champions? … Did Ali choose to fight Larry Holmes rather than Leon Spinks? … Is Stevenson going to fight Kovalev? … Is Martinez interested in fighting Golovkin? … Is Fury’s team negotiating with Wilder’s team? … Are any top cruiserweights interested in fighting Tabiso Mchunu? … Did Foreman fight Holmes? … Did Leonard fight Nunn? … Did Hearns fight McCallum?

A dominant world champion doesn’t necessarily have to fight the toughest opponent out there—especially if he doesn’t like his chances. Top contenders don’t have to fight dangerous fringe contenders. If the most important matchups in a division happen, it’s often termed a “mistake” or “miscalculation” by people who backed the better known fighter.

Posted December 3, 2013 9:28 pm 


ha

I think you are taking xylocaine to the brain. You are really slow.

Posted December 3, 2013 9:10 pm 


ha

LMFAO. Boxer not wanting to throw a hard punch. Make up more nonsense. I thought he was feather fisted according to you Pactards. What hard punch is he throwing then?

Posted December 3, 2013 9:09 pm 


deepwater

when your hand hurts in the ring you dont want to throw a hard punch because of the pain. mask the pain throw a hard punch. dont you get it? stop sniffing glue

Posted December 3, 2013 9:06 pm 


ha

Yeah DUH it numbs the hands. I ask again how does that enhance his performance. If anything, it could hurt his hand more because pain is the body’s way of telling you something isn’t right. What a bunch of morons.

Posted December 3, 2013 9:05 pm 


Tony1244

No, because they haven’t fought.

Posted December 3, 2013 9:00 pm 


deepwater

you dope, it numbs the pain Floyd feels when his little brittle hands hurt.

Posted December 3, 2013 8:59 pm 


Ray Ray

Oh god here we go again…..nothing better 2 report on? I no lets put Floyd and Mannys name up there again, another 200 posts yay…..its got nothing 2 do with Floyd and Manny…..its all about Bobby boy. Mayweather v Pacman will b 2015 afteer mannys contract is done at toprank? Or very late 2014 as Arums last chance 2 collect from Pacman…..move on, next.

Posted December 3, 2013 8:33 pm 


ha

LMFAO. Do you even know xylocaine is? It numbs. Have you ever tried to walk on a numb foot or leg? Why would xylocaine help Floyd who relies on speed and reflexes. If anything, it’s an anti-PED. Idiot Pactard.

Posted December 3, 2013 8:31 pm 


Floyd Xylocaine Mayweather

Pac should ask for a year round testing like olympians do and see what Ms Xylocaine says LOL

Floyd says ” all i want is level playing field and Xylocaine”.

Posted December 3, 2013 8:09 pm 


Floyd Xylocaine Mayweather

Are you saying that Pac on juice can beat Ms Xylocaine?

Y/N ?

Posted December 3, 2013 8:03 pm 


BUSTAJAY

In all my years as a fan of this sport I can’t recall anything like this situation.
Too bad for us if this never takes place.

Posted December 3, 2013 8:03 pm 


Floyd Xylocaine Mayweather

A juicer like floyd asking for rbt hahahahahahahahahahahhahahahaha

Posted December 3, 2013 8:00 pm 


te tumbo

Random, Harmless, and MUTUALLY-Applied testing should have never become the deal-breaker that Pacquiao* insisted that it was. the proof is in his newfound enthusiasm for testing v. Rios. of course, nobody has bothered reporting on the process or results because testing only becomes an issue when One fighter refuses to test(?!). that fighter was Pacquiao* and ONLY Pacquiao* has ever rejected stricter testing for the opportunity to face his primary P4P rival for a $25-$50 million payday. otherwise, that “W” would’ve been posted on Floyd’s ring-resume three F’n years ago. anyway, IF this matchup finally materializes, i’ll watch but i won’t pay. i can easily wait an additional week to finally watch Pacquiao* lose in a lopsided mismatch v. Floyd.

Posted December 3, 2013 7:53 pm 


Hidalgo

Mr. Caldwell has eloquently written about what I have stated for years: If Mayweather and Pacquiao truly wanted to make this fight, it would already have happened.

But they don’t. Too bad they have so little respect for boxing and boxing fans.

Self-interest is a b*tch.

Posted December 3, 2013 7:53 pm 


Danny” Swinger ” Garcia

Straight right- yes sir. I agree too. Its about time these two get it on and quit their drama. They can make lots of money together, more than enough.

Posted December 3, 2013 7:50 pm 


Roberto

There is a video ESPN “Stephen A. Smith” said he had interview with Pacquiao in the New York Radio , Pacquaio said he talked to Floyd in the phone and Floyd told him ” You are a congressman but what if i lose ?” , “Floyd said this to me” it happenned before the Marquez 4th fight … There is video on youtube about it …

Posted December 3, 2013 7:49 pm 


Straight Right

So the fans have given Mayweather & Pacquiao a tremendous amount of fortune and fame, and it’s time these two pugilists give boxing fans the battle for ring supremacy. Better late than never. Pacquiao has the ability to make it a great fight, but I favor Mayweather by SD.

Posted December 3, 2013 7:43 pm 


ha

Floyd don’t need Pac. If this fight doesn’t happen, Pac loses. He has no money.

Posted December 3, 2013 7:19 pm 



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