THE ENGLISH SLIME ARE OOZING OUT AGAIN PLEADING FOR HAYE TO ROB THE PUBLIC AGAIN THEY KNOW THERE A SUCKER BORN EVERY MINUTEPosted November 13, 2012 10:47 pm
HAYE HAD HIS CHANCE AT VITALI AND HE PASSED . INSTEAD HE WISELY TOOK A CHANCE WITH A GUY HE THOUGHT HE HAD A CHANCE TO KO IN WLAD. NO PROBLEM THERE. . HE BUILT UP THE GATE AND WHEN HE GOT IN WITH WLAD FOR 12 MILLION DOLLARS .HE REALIZED WLAD IS MUCH MORE THEN HE ORGINALY THOUGH HE PANICKED HE FOUGHT A COWARDLY FIGHT .HE RAN AWAY PRETTY FAST THREW HIM SELF ON THE GROUND AND LOOKED ALL NIGHT F FOR HELP FROM THE REF . HE NEVER TRIED TO FIGHT NEVER TRIED TO WIN THE HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP OF THE WORLD. HE WAS A DISGRACE FOR THE EFFORT HE PUT IN . BUT HE WOULDNT STOP AT THAT AFTER HIS NO FIGHT THE GUY TOOK OFF HIS SHOE JUMPED UP ON A TABLE AND BLAMED HIS TOE NOT HIS HEART FOR HIS COWARDLY PERFORMANCE.. I THE REAL PROBLEM IS RALLY HIS HEART . .HE NEXT GOES OUT AND KOES A GUY IN CHISORA WHO HAS A FIGHTER HEART BUT NOW HAS LOST 4 FIGHTS IN A ROW .. AND NOW DAVID HAYES BASICLY SAYS ALL RIGHT FORGET THE WLAD FIGHT i ADMIT i FOUGHT THE WRONG GUY NOW i WANT TO FIGHT VITALI .AND IF i CANT FIGHT VITALI i QUIT WHAT HAPPENED TO EARNING YOUR WAY BACK AFTER SUCH A COWARDLY DISPLAY FIGHT A FEW CONTENDERS WIN AND THEN MAYBE ANOTHER TITLE SHOT .Posted November 13, 2012 10:42 pm
Tark .Seems like you saw a different fight to what others saw.Anyone calling pro fighters cowards is stupid .How many pro fights did you have tark.?
Chisora lost to a slowed down 40 year old fighter who fought him with a torn ligament in his left shoulder, essentially using one arm. Chisora won 2 rounds….how does that make you world class?….Anybody with any sense knew that Haye saw it was all smoke and mirrors otherwise he wouldnt take the risk…thats just Haye…..4 years in the heavyweights, he fought 2 ranked fighter, barely beatinfg Valuev and losing badly to Vladimir. Its time for Haye to fight a decent fighter, not just hope that Vitali will get injured or be slowed down enough he can win….that just Haye being his usual cowardly self. just like he flopped on the floor when vladimir pinned him in the corner, I dont want to see another David Haye flop fest. If Haye just fought Solis while he was waiting around I’d be all for him getting another shot…but I want to see him face a top 10 fighter….maybe 2…why is that so much to ask?…Posted September 28, 2012 8:02 pm
Lewis opened a vaginal wound on vitalis face. One of the most serious cuts I have ever seen in boxing, if that fight went on Vitali would have one eye left. If vitali hides behind his jab all night he will win, but if haye gets through unlike chisora did, i belief haye could ko vitali, sanders almost did it and haye is way faster than sanders. Its the only fight left to watch in HW, unless its klitschko vs klitschko.Posted September 28, 2012 5:07 pm
Vitali had ONE round where he was dominant and he did not even produce a KD during that “dominant round” he dominated Adamek and received NO return fire from the smaller boxer… Against Lewis he was bleeding like a virgin after a gangbang after 3 short rounds…. Get your ass off fantasy island it was a back and forth contest that saw Klitschko the worse for wear and ultimately pulled out due to his inability to stop right hands that left him bleeding profusely from 5 cuts…. Domination???? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!Posted September 28, 2012 12:08 pm
Even at 41, Vitali kicks Hayes ass.
Charr got stopped because cuts too. Charr felt robbed and believed he would win the second half of the fight. :shock:Posted September 28, 2012 10:51 am
Vitali :cool: :arrow: Povetkin-Rahmen outcome :wink:Posted September 28, 2012 10:14 am
Correction: Chisora I meant which Vitali could not do not Vlad. OopsPosted September 28, 2012 9:48 am
Tark is not an idiot in this post. He is absolutely correct. Haye had one bad night against Vlad who is the best in the world. Vitali will be a different fight and although I think that Fres should get a shot before David notmany ppl can challenge the Klits especially Wach or Charr. They have destroyed Adamak, Areola, Thompson & Chambers so Mitchell, Wilder or Jennings with rounds less than Areola wont fair any better. Oquendo is the only American who stands a chance to win and has NOT FOUGHT a Klit. Hay did KO Chisora which Vlad could not do so it is at least reason to believe it would be a competitive fight. At least with Haye & Oquendo you would get 2 experienced, amateur pedigreed in shape fighters to show up game day which is a lot more than last few opponents Klits have faced…….Posted September 28, 2012 9:45 am
Good Points herePosted September 28, 2012 9:37 am
ray gordon REID
IF FIGHT DID HAPPEN VITALI OVER DAVY NOT DAVID HAYE 7.05 AM FRIDAY 9/28/2012Posted September 28, 2012 7:02 am
Anonymous – only the first three rounds… after that Lewis started to connect and they tide was turning in Lewis favour!!Posted September 28, 2012 5:50 am
You wouldn’t last 20 seconds with all those fighters you’ve just ignorantly slagged off.Posted September 28, 2012 5:23 am
Stop talking bollocks. Im from the UK and was out in Ukraine for Euro 2012. Had no problems what so ever but then I’m white. But you have to ask the quastion as to how many non white people live in Ukraine compared to the UK. If Ukraine had millions like the UK then I guarantee you’d retract what you just put.Posted September 28, 2012 5:18 am
People who think that Vitali would easily defeat Haye are fools. Look at the Wlad vs Haye fight. Why was Haye not succesfull. In my opinion, Wlads reflexes and speed combined with the longer reach/better jab neutralized Hayes strenghts. Vitali has a similar jab, but his reflexes/speed are not near to Wlads. I am convinces that Haye will land a lot more on Vitali then he would on Wlad. On the other hand probably also the other way around. It’s a fight that could go both ways. Vitali is inb a difficult position here. On one hand beating Haye would add to his legacy. On the other hand, he’s 41, there is a real chance he loses. When he loses, it won’t matter he was 41Posted September 28, 2012 3:30 am
Haye is Wladimir’s Boot Licker.
Wlad UD over Haye…………….UD!!Posted September 28, 2012 1:12 am
Those documentaries are a load of crap and i’m really surprised how easy you believe them, trusting everything in the media these days is very immature and crazy, i have been to the UK, i live in the USA and i also went to Ukraine and out of these three countries Ukraine is the least racist by a billion miles ind i’m not the only one saying that, you know that, and this is irrelevant to the subject of the article anyway. Haye needs to put his fists where his mouth is or shut up for oncePosted September 28, 2012 12:38 am
Only fools think that Wladimir dominated Haye in their fight. Wladimir won by a TINY margin in most of the rounds. It was a cautious fight by both the fighters. David Haye and Wladimir Klitschko both possess the best reflexes/athlecticism in the HW division and hopefully it wont be too long before the two will meet again….Posted September 28, 2012 12:16 am
I’m not a big K fan (and I was a Lewis fan), but you need to pull your head out of your ass. Vitali was dominating lewis until sustaining that awful cut. He basically lost to bad luck, and Lewis retired instead of redeeming himselfm in a rematch. Lewis didn’t spank Vitali, it was the other way around. Lewis just got lucky and stopped him on cuts.Posted September 28, 2012 12:08 am
Wlad Fan (The Haters are in Klit Denial!)
…Maybe Vitali and Wladimir will agree to protect him if he comes to Ukraine! …maybe hold his hand as he crosses the street…stick up for him at the playground…tuck him in at night…Posted September 27, 2012 11:56 pm
That’s an interesting point–I always hear it referred to as “the Ukraine”–whether it’s an old episode of Seinfeld, a Harry Turtledove novel, or a breadbasket reference–people always stick a the in front of it. I see that with the United states, but not the china, or the brasil. Interesting.Posted September 27, 2012 11:48 pm
Lawzi! Wheeze trapped in de Ukraine! Ain’t nutin’ lef’ to do but help ‘em with de nooses!Posted September 27, 2012 10:46 pm
You hate two of the biggest names in boxing, You also say you live to see them humbled, thats all they need, your money.Posted September 27, 2012 10:34 pm
There was documentaries round about the time of the Euro 2012 Football tournament showing that Ukraine has a bad racist problem. Many Black footballers families did not travel for this exact reason. But lets not look at the truth and bad mouth the guy cos its Haye. As for Would Lennox Lewis/ALI etc use this excuse did they ever fight in the eastern block? NOPosted September 27, 2012 10:31 pm
Haye won rounds from Wladimir? How many was that again? 1? Haha. In a fight completely dominated by Wladimir, you use that as an argument to defend Haye? Just because he beat a fat chisora, a shot Ruiz, a clown like Valuev, a washed up Barrett, a fraud like Audley and no talent Maccarinelli, the Boxing public are supposed to get behind this overhyped bigmouth? Well actually I did feel sorry that he hurt his toe. Showed alot of pride that did, on national TV and all.Posted September 27, 2012 9:58 pm
Haye was the last guy to hold a piece of the HW crown and he went all 12 with Wlad in a serious borefest….He destroyed the guy that gave Vitali the most trouble in years…If Charr was worthy then ALL bets are off its anything goes as it pertains to Klitschko…. Haye brings the most money and offers a degree of legacy enhancement should Vitali put some hurt on him…What other fight in the DEAD HW division makes more sense? Povetkin vs Rahman??Posted September 27, 2012 9:38 pm
how dumb aand delusional are you? haye with a broken toe hahhahahahaPosted September 27, 2012 9:35 pm
No harm, but Haye has never beaten a quality opponent. Mormeck, Barrett, Valuev. Okay Valuev was a shareholder of the belts, yet he retired after Haye hit him 14 times, the other 2 have tried yet massively failed. I myself hate the K-domination as they bring absolutely no entertainment yet get the job done. I like Haye, until he talks. He has the goods, he can command a fortune, but why doesn’t he? One last roll of the dice, at our expense. How arrogant of him to suggest that only the Klitscko’s are worthy of HIM! When is Macklin fighting again?Posted September 27, 2012 9:28 pm
Klitschko can retire saying “hey I spent MOST of my relevant career having to discuss Lennox Lewis bashing my face in and pretending a rematch would have made me a certified ATG”, or he can take the best fight available against Haye and say that he tried to take on some level of risk on the way out…. Ending a career like this which is LOADED with ????????????? fighting Manuel Charr will assure Klits an HOF berth but he will mostly be forgotten when guys like Lewis, Holy, Ali, Foreman and others are mentioned and I’m not convinced beating Haye will move the needle that much but it’s the right fight for him to take if he continues…Klits is a professional and he is always in shape and ready but his list of opponents is NOT impressive despite off the wall attempts to sell them as a murderers row…His fans tremble at the thought of a small HW/Crusier possibly getting to Klits who has a MASSIVE size advantage that should give them comfort…. I would favor Vitali in the bout but the reality is that Haye is faster than anyone he has fought and the guy can hit….. If Klits can fight the YOUNGER, BIGGER Charr then why not a smaller man with some talent and a punch????Posted September 27, 2012 9:26 pm
It does not qualify as an article. It is same kind of crap that come from these haters who cannot stand fighters like Mayweather and Haye who refuse to shuffle and genuflect before them. They live vicariously off of the exploits of time fortunate boxing champs like the Klitchkos.
They are angry because Haye did not go into the fight with Klitchko crazy and got himself knocked out so they could go home and masturbate happily. They live to see Mayweather or Haye humbled, so they can masturbate their egos. I hope both of those guys retire UD, so these haters could burn up with bitterness.Posted September 27, 2012 8:51 pm
Vote “no Vitali”Posted September 27, 2012 8:50 pm
Tark, I got to agree with everybody. you are an Idot, your boy Haye was jumping up and down in the ring before the fight with VK, then after the loss, OH MY TOE. Why does he deserve a fight with the old VK, he wouldn’t fight him 3 or 4 years ago, and Fury beat Chisora before anyone does he deserve a fight too.Posted September 27, 2012 8:27 pm
Great article, Haye because of his mouth and, arrogance and indifference is a wasted talent, either let the fists do the talking or keep talking and retire, so much for Muhhamad Ali legacy, Haye is taking this the wrong wayPosted September 27, 2012 8:13 pm
Jeff Meyers — please retire from writing.. Haye is one of the few challengers who won rounds off Wladimir.. Even with a broken toe, leaving him unable to punch off that foot effectively, and with Wladimir leaning all over his back, Haye put in 12 rounds and caught Wladimir with the hardest punches—according to Wladimir—that Vlad’s been ripped with in many years.. Vitali said he very much wanted to “put Haye in the dust” when Haye demanded another shot at a Klitschko.. At the press conference following Vitali’s 12-round sruggle with Dereck Chisora, it was suggested to Haye that he fight Chisora and the winner fight Vitali.. Since that request Haye clobbered Chisora twice, and pinned his badass to the floor–something Vitali failed to do.. So where’s all the talk of putting Haye in the dust now?? Since Haye destroyed Chisora Vitali’s no longer interested.. Funny thing isn’t it??? Haye showed how he can punch without a broken foot. Vitali made the unknown and unaccomplished Manuel Charr his last opponent instead of Haye …. Pretty big switcheroo right there. I think Vitali is the GHOAT, but he should have made Haye his last foe. It’s only right.Posted September 27, 2012 8:10 pm
You on Drugs??Posted September 27, 2012 7:51 pm
He would NEVER beat a Klitschko A 50 year old Vitali would still do Haye, Haye is a joke will always be a joke..Posted September 27, 2012 7:49 pm
Now… sometimes it makes me laugh that some commentators can’t read between the lines.
he doesnt deserve a shot at vitali after the vlad fight (which to be honest i thought haye would win)
Vladmir K beat David Haye on points at home. To read this article you would think that he was beaten up and KO’d.
If you look at Vlad K’s record you have to go back many years to find a more closer fight than the one against Haye.
As for the comments on bottle, there speaks a man that has never got into a boxing ring before.Posted September 27, 2012 7:28 pm
Tyrone deshawn lamarcus Black
Nice article d1ck breath.
At least Haye talks smack, p1sses everyone off and sells tickets. These ex USSR fighters make me want to watch paint dry.Posted September 27, 2012 6:56 pm
Of course Make huge money of what he though would be an easy win over glass chin Wlad now he goes for past his prime Vitali.Haye will never learn will he,what a clown.If the fight does happen david will complain about his pinky next haha.Hope he gets Ko’d again this time for good.Posted September 27, 2012 6:34 pm
Anonymous – It’s THE Ukraine, just like it’s THE Bronx and THE Sudan, It’s not THE Latvia, not THE Brooklyn, not THE Tanzania. See ?Posted September 27, 2012 6:30 pm
Yeah man, you just summed it up. Love the word brittards by the way. Does your mom still buy your shoes for you too?Posted September 27, 2012 5:48 pm
People dont like him because he has a big mouth, but he is entertaining….of that there is no doubt, and he can fight and he does have bottle. He gets in the ring with good fighters, and had only one performance where he can be criticized, and even then he went the distance with a truly great fighter. Nothing wrong with this kid at all, hope he does get in the ring with Vitali…cos you just never know.Posted September 27, 2012 5:45 pm
brittards don’t like this article , they love to dream and when they hear the truth , they can’t take it.Posted September 27, 2012 5:41 pm
All your jokes are getting thin. Haye’s the number 1 contender, he just is, earned or not, and those punches might just catch a 41 year old. And you know what, I hope not. British, and I’d want Vitali to win.Posted September 27, 2012 5:40 pm
A very good and true article. Hat off to the authorPosted September 27, 2012 5:36 pm
Bruce I’ll let someone else tear that apart. Apart from the still has lots to prove bit.Posted September 27, 2012 5:34 pm
And that was for the numbskull below youPosted September 27, 2012 5:30 pm
E in Denver – Haye is ranked in the top 3 or 4 and I don’t really know why. Sure, he beat a guy named Dereck Chisora, a guy who previously lost to Tyson Fury and Robert Helenius; Chisora’s KO percentage was 47%, and the last guy Dereck beat was some guy with 43 losses (no kidding). David Haye still has lots to prove.Posted September 27, 2012 5:29 pm
Getta gripPosted September 27, 2012 5:29 pm
hairypudding, you are describing a despicable crime – to be sure – but you were talking about a CHARGE not a conviction. He’ll go to jail when and if he is proven guilty. Then he’ll be sorry he was born.Posted September 27, 2012 5:18 pm
Someone said haye is black and white but I really dont want to claim him as half white. Let the blacks have him if they want him( doubt it) . Plus he rapes kids.look at his historyPosted September 27, 2012 5:16 pm
What ever happened to the child rape charges they had on haye?
E in Denver
Ideally a box off between Haye & Adamek decides who will face Vitali. Haye isn’t in a position to dictate terms. But the guy is brought up because of the lack of experienced, talent in the division. Name 3 HWs that you would rank over Haye that aren’t named Klitschko? After Haye’s performance vs. Wlad, a winner take all purse offer or a purse based on how many rounds Haye wins w/ a bonus for winning the fight seems fair.Posted September 27, 2012 5:02 pm
Unless you were just joking of course, the country not of Wlad and Vitali’s birth is commonly referred to as… the UkrainePosted September 27, 2012 4:51 pm
No SirPosted September 27, 2012 4:47 pm
why do you keep saying “the” Ukraine? its just Ukraine :???: :lol:Posted September 27, 2012 4:39 pm
Bill (KlichKO brothers are the best REAL HEAVYWEIGHTS ever)
great picture indeedPosted September 27, 2012 4:31 pm
Bill (KlichKO brothers are the best REAL HEAVYWEIGHTS ever)
Davey Ga y = Great boxing skills + mentality of a cheap btchPosted September 27, 2012 4:29 pm
Did you win the chance to write on Eastside boxing on the back of a packet of Coco Pops?Posted September 27, 2012 4:28 pm
Like char had to?Posted September 27, 2012 4:24 pm
Cos he doesn’t want to and the WBC for one seem prepared to allow it (for obvious reasons). Wrong? Maybe, but the fact remains he’s definitely one of the best if not the best challenger out there. So I don’t see the problem.Posted September 27, 2012 4:17 pm
I think you should google it first before asking for compliments…Posted September 27, 2012 4:09 pm
Beer Party Movement
Neils: ‘ the Klitschko “fans” who are terrified of Vitali fighting Haye ‘ What a load of crap. Real boxing fans have a problem with cherrypicking and inactive fighters. Before his latest titlefight Haye only fought old and shot fighters at hw, and yet he was rewarded a titlefight and a lot of money. And now he wants a titlefight just because he beat Chisora ?. And what is the problem with Haye fighting some topranked fighter before he is rewarded a titlefight again.Posted September 27, 2012 3:51 pm
crap article but great picture lol.Posted September 27, 2012 3:21 pm
2 more good fights than Haye has. :mrgreen: Haye ain’t no Lennox Lewis.Posted September 27, 2012 3:17 pm
Shocking! Here come the exusemakers posse! The enablers of he and A Mere Con. They are red faced mad and sound pathetic…..lmfao :mrgreen:Posted September 27, 2012 3:07 pm
It’s ‘football’ by the way, not ‘soccer’
You’re welcome.Posted September 27, 2012 3:01 pm
Jeff Meyers, please don’t write about boxing ever again.
This is the most laughably pathetic ‘article’ I’ve ever seen.
For the record, Vitali needs Haye more than Haye needs Vitali.
Haye would win within the distance by the way.Posted September 27, 2012 2:54 pm
Haye is a load of cheap chat! Absolute joker! Peace….Robbie TPosted September 27, 2012 2:23 pm
Klits do not fight if they are not 100% sure. After Vitaly was a total disaster in fight with Chisora and Charr, he is not going to risk against much better fighter like Haye.Posted September 27, 2012 2:01 pm
what a nonsense!
a) as a heavy, hidy had no respectable match
Crap Article. David Haye, like, love, dislike or despise (as in the case of the ‘author’) is one of the best HWs in the world right now. I have him at number 3 and if anyone is willing to agree with that rating or even to rate him top 5, well, the fight is warranted. And it would sell better than any other HW fight out there. Btw, the Ukraine IS a very racist country, but that’s not Haye’s point, obviously.Posted September 27, 2012 1:45 pm
Ohhh, trust me.. i think we are all racists. We just don’t notice it.Posted September 27, 2012 1:42 pm
Im not humble. Im educated. I have been around most HW and Fres has either fought or sparred just about everyone out there including Vitali. Yes I do know more than about 99% as far as HW go. Ive been around them and study them and know them. I am partial because David is one of my best friends and he talked the talk but didnt walk the walk. He admits it, I admit it. I also know that in most cases boxing is a joke, a dirty business and 99% of the time fighting has nothing to do with boxing. You are on another promoter’s card you lose no matter what barring a KO. Holyfield beat Valuev. Marco Huc beat Povetkin. Chambers beat Adamek. Pac beat Bradley. Marquez probly beat Pac. And on a final note Vitali sells tickets in Germany and Ukraine. Haye got Klits their biggest payday and he can sellout and sell TV better than them. So they can go on beating bums or they can fight Haye for money or a guy like Fres for legitimacy. Manuel Char and Maeruiryfje89jz Wach or whatever his name is just does not cut it for me.Posted September 27, 2012 12:59 pm
Why are you a boxing journalist and trying to say boxers have no bottle? Really why would someone take this sport and make it their profession, win world titles at multiple weights and call out and fight guys that outweigh them by 2 stone or even 100 pounds if they had no bottle? Haye does have bottle and we all seen him use it, whether in the ring or on the street there is no way as a man you could suggest he does not have bottle. As a journalist why do you contemplate whether a black boxer has been killed in Ukraine? You can be attacked, insulted and harrassed (see many Haye posts on this forum) it is still racism and it can all affect the outcome of a fight or even your life. So many of the useless gutter trash that post here show again and again that they dont know boxing as they seem to want a Cruiserweight/small heavyweight to fight aggressively on the front foot against fighters much bigger than him. Guess what Hayes best asset is his speed and athleticism, guess what he uses it to win, most likely he will not win fights with strength, stamina and workrate. Boxing ya know…Posted September 27, 2012 12:43 pm
They said the same about black people being attacked hurt etc in Soccers Euro 2012…not one report…of ANYTHING happening.
I agree 100% with your sentiments Jeff! When Haye made that idiotic statement he not only unfairly stereotyped the people of Ukraine, he came off as a biased race baiter (for the record, he’s only half black). These statements went beyond Haye’s typical trash talk and pathetic excuses, they were just flat out irresponsible. Sadly, I’m not surprised at all.Posted September 27, 2012 12:25 pm
I would have to agree with the masturbating 17 year old.Posted September 27, 2012 12:21 pm
I agree with masturbating 17 year old.Posted September 27, 2012 12:14 pm
Nevertheless, when Haye got his chance with Wlad he flitted around the ring like a yellow-rumped warbler. With a broken toe. And chronic falling-down syndrome.Posted September 27, 2012 11:45 am
Andrew, stop arguing with yourself.Posted September 27, 2012 11:42 am
Didn’t both Wlad and Vitali come out and say they’d fight him at Wembley but as soon as it got going, it had to be in Germany. I’m seriously sick of these internet warriors, sitting behind their blog desks while saying a lifelong fighter who’s gone to America, Germany (twice) and the outskirts of Paris to fight and to fight for titles. All the while, you are most likely a masturbating 17 year old, who would cry if someone like Haye even flinched at your face. There’s absolutely nothing wrong with him not wanting to fight in Ukraine, and I think Vitali should just STFU and take the fight in Germany or the UK – as a fan, who the F cares where the fight is held?Posted September 27, 2012 11:16 am
Vitali by brutal KO in a fight that is never going to happen. Never happening.Posted September 27, 2012 11:05 am
NO BITE against dogs with TEETH ,
Jaimie G ….; Well , you seem to have read the newspaper , so how true did all those rumors they told you about BEFORE the Euro 2012 turn
Matt … If we are going to applaud
Also, if you had correctly predicted “how Haye would fight and he boxed” then I have a hard time seeing how you could come to any conclusion other than a wide UD loss for Haye. He had one shot…piss Wlad off and land with one wild punch.Posted September 27, 2012 10:03 am
You humbly know more than 99 percent, BUT! “I was completely wrong in Haye vs Vlad.”Posted September 27, 2012 9:59 am
Note for the author; second paragraph, it’s not soccer, it’
Haye is looking for another easy payday.Posted September 27, 2012 9:54 am
David can care less if he fights or not. He is a wealthy man who will always make great money in the UK. He had one bad fight in his career (notwithstanding his early loss) to a great, experienced and cautious champion in Vlad. So he talked the talk, promoted the fight made $25 million pounds but instead of coasting like the Klits do with EZ opponents, (which he could have kept doing) he took a chance, went for broke and tried to unify the belts. So he screwed up and lost. It is not like Vlad went for broke either. I think it will be a completely different fight if its Haye vs Vitali. Fres has sparred Vitali and Vit has weaknesses. Heart and chin is not one of them but he lacks the power he once had and Vlads power. He can be hit easier and he is not the same fighter he once was. He is less agile and slower than Vlad and for sure David. Haye will connect against the less defensive brother Vitali who certainly is not cautious like his little brother. Now we never know what will happen, that’s why they fight. But given my experience and knowledge with HW, which is more extensive than 99% of boxing people out there, I do see a more competitive fight in Haye vs Klit. I was completely wrong in Haye vs Vlad but I did predict how Haye would fight and he boxed, did not go for the KO but we all have a plan on what to do but once inside that ring things change. I knew the experience Vlad had would be the only way he would win and I told this to David. Experience is key because experience makes fighters cagey in there and those losses, rounds, wins and age does not compete with being young, inexperienced and dumb thinking you can take over the world. That is why Klits fight these inexperienced young guns. They are young, big, strong, undefeated but the Klits know they are EZ wins and babes in the woods when they get in there. And so it goes until or if they get into the ring some day.Posted September 27, 2012 9:53 am
You have to give Hayes credit, he failed with Wladimir. He made a good comeback with Chisora, a guy that went the distance with Vitali. I’ll give him another chance, he is an explosive fighter.Posted September 27, 2012 9:53 am
Yes..,. english and proud… nothing about a riot can be said to be good clean. to say they were a race riot is incorrect and shows a level of ignorance!!Posted September 27, 2012 9:41 am
What has Lennox got to do with this thread…? Abet for you having sour grapes…. Look LL made vitail face look like a doner kebab with chilli scour over it… now get over it.Posted September 27, 2012 9:37 am
trayvon “The Unit” toney
I agree with most of the article, however there is an element of truth in what Haye is saying. The Ukraine IS incredibly racist (I am more qualified than most to say this as my girlfriend grew up there), and not just anti-black but it is also anti-UK. When the British football teams have travelled over there, particularly the English team, there were endless threats from the Ukrainian football hooligans who wanted to show the Brits (mainly the English) that they were the best hooligans in Europe (as some of you may know, the Brits had a history of hooliganism in the 70s… but nobody seems to have told the Ukrainians that that was 40 years ago). When they held the Euro 2012 football tournament in Poland/Ukraine, the English fans were strongly advised to stay at home, such was the level of volatility in Ukraine. My girlfriend won’t even go back there anymore due to the xenophobia, and she’s a white native of the country!
Yes Haye has failed horribly to back up that big, big mouth of his, but as a black English man, the threat he faces is very real.
None of that negates the fact that Vitali will beat the p1ss out of him anyway.Posted September 27, 2012 9:34 am
I guaranty if Klits were American fighters, every western writer would be discussed of them.Posted September 27, 2012 9:34 am
Wlad won with very little margin in that fight. Both did not do enough to win. Wlad hid behind the jab, Haye used mostly left hook for the entire fight. Real open fight was only in round 12 when both demonstrated good skills. I wouldn’t put the blame for the boring fight on Haye only. About fighting in Ukraine, of cause Haye is not afraid to go to Ukraine. I believe they have negotiations about the last Vitaly fight and both trying to get best opportunities from the contract.Posted September 27, 2012 9:28 am
One inch …. Yeah , just some exhuberant ” youths ” having some good , clean fun !
This kind of “article” is why EastSideBoxing, nor the serious writers on here, will never get the credit it/they deserve…Posted September 27, 2012 9:20 am
I din’t know what those other guys would , but Lenny Lewis , would never ” utter
They were not race riots…. more like youth riots…. no what you are talking about. PS you must be from the UkrainePosted September 27, 2012 9:08 am
Look at all the Brits lambasting this accurate if emotional article. Haye is a fraud, gimmick. Too bad because he does have a lot of boxing talent but greed and fear seem to be his main qualities.Posted September 27, 2012 9:03 am
This writer is blinded by hate – thats all im gonna say……Posted September 27, 2012 9:02 am
@Matt. Wilder and Mago have 100% KO rates. What’s your point?Posted September 27, 2012 8:34 am
The twit who wrote this article is clearly a borderline imbecile. Don’t give up your day job, idiot.Posted September 27, 2012 8:29 am
We lauded Chisora for his performance against Vitali yet he lost terribly by a far wider margin than Haye had done against Vladimir. Vitali K. vs. Chisora: 118-110, 118-110, 119-111. Vladimir K. vs. Haye: 118-108, 117-109, 116-110. You’re wrong. And it’s true: Haye did close to NOTHING in 12 rds. except for running and throwing two bombs that Vladimir took without any problems. Haye ran. Delboy won rounds because of his bravery and going forward through the fire. Yes, Haye defeated Chisora. True. But Delboy’s performance was better than Haye’s refusal to fight.Posted September 27, 2012 8:22 am
Exactly, this looks like the writings of an upset fan, not that of a real journalist.
The standard of articles on this site has gone downhill dramatically in recent times.
Im sure Haye with his multiple world titles,millions in the bank and pretty much intact health couldnt care less about the rambling of some glorified forum warrior.Posted September 27, 2012 8:21 am
Haye sets traps for his opponents and then capitalizes on his combination of speed and power. Wlad fights behind the jab and only opens up if little risk
stupid post vlad punish haye with the jab to make a pizza face lolPosted September 27, 2012 8:08 am
idiot g ay toeboy has already lose to klychkoPosted September 27, 2012 8:03 am
britsch buls***t company making lies remember race riot 2011 london? who is the racist ask jim duggan who is shoot dead. not in ukrainePosted September 27, 2012 8:00 am
If “deserving a fight with Vitali” were this hard criteria then perhaps 80% of his opponents would not be on his record…Lets get real the bar for fighting Klitschko has NOT been that high throughout his career and fighting Charr which was HORRIBLE only shows that the price of admission is cut rate…. David Haye has done MORE than enough to qualify as a Vitali opponent at this point, he was the last guy I believe to hold a piece of the HW title other than a Klits…He went a full 12 with the best HW of the era albeit he stunk out the joint, he destroyed Vitalis last viable opponent and the guy who gave Klits his hardest fight in years….Why not David Haye? and if not Haye then just retire Klitschko fighting Hasim Rahman or one of these other dead men is not going to do anything but pad and pretty padded record as it is….Posted September 27, 2012 7:57 am
I’ll say it again, great postPosted September 27, 2012 7:54 am
Wow, such a biased article. Shockingly bad!
You only needed to do alittle research to add at least some objectivity to it. Did you not watch the BBC documentary before the Euro Football Champoinship?….I can answer it, it’ll be ‘No’.Posted September 27, 2012 7:54 am
Very well said John Harry & i agree with you entirely.Posted September 27, 2012 7:49 am
:cool:Posted September 27, 2012 7:43 am
This list lost all seriousness when you named Wilder. :mrgreen:Posted September 27, 2012 7:39 am
Vitali and K2 fans trying to back out of a live fight. Any risk over 0.01% is unacceptable to these guys – hence they fight Charr and little Adameks. Vitali has basically had two good fights, Lewis and Saunders – the rest was a joke and insult to boxing.Posted September 27, 2012 7:37 am
Author – you may want to look a little more into the Ukraine risks. I’m not saying they are all like that, but there is a problem with it. You may have noticed from the recent Football tournament in Ukraine that there was a similar concerns from footballers and fans.Posted September 27, 2012 7:35 am
Pointless Haye bashing article and trolling. No bottle? rubbish. A natural cruiserweight got in the ring with the biggest and hardest punching heavyweight out there.Posted September 27, 2012 7:33 am
:wink:Posted September 27, 2012 7:23 am
Haye had no answer to the jab. Wlad had no answer for Hayes movement. Klit fans will claim it was a ‘destruction’, a ‘demolition’ or a ‘domination’. In reality it was a win by default.Posted September 27, 2012 7:22 am
Haye has a big mouth of that there is no doubt but to suggest he has no bottle is the sort of diatribe that comes from someone who sits safely at a distance commenting on a subject they themselves would never have the ‘bottle’ to indulge in physically.
:!:Posted September 27, 2012 7:18 am
This assertion is baseless and created to inspire a reaction, probably by some Klit appeaser. I appreciate that a lot of tubby, lank haired, weaselly web addict types and white supremacists have a deeply ingrained dislike for Haye. Haye talks a lot of cr”p and toegate was pathetic. But the guy has plenty of bottle. The guy won the unified cruiserweight titles in Paris against the French fighter, he fought Valuev in Germany, he fought Wlad in Germany. He is willing to go to Germany again to fight big Vit. The same people said he lacked the bottle to take Delbum on after their scrap – yet he did and smashed him up. The guy was pushing himself into all of this when after the same number of fights the K Bros were still fighting no marks. You window lickers can congratulate yourself figuring out that Ga y rhymes with Haye all you like but facts are facts and the Toefairy has proven his mettle on plenty of occasions. Sure, he came up short against Wlads Jab’n'Grab in a dull shut-out but in doing so he overcame physical disadvantage and made Wlad look anything but an ATG, in Germany. He’s not a bottle job at all. The hack ‘journalism’ and lack of objectivity on this site is apalling at times.Posted September 27, 2012 7:18 am
I was actually very dissappointed in both fighters performances that night.
i would like to know how a completly subjective and totally biased article such as this even manages to get published here ????Posted September 27, 2012 7:11 am
David Haye represents Vitalis only chance to retire having people speak about a contests OTHER than Lennox Lewis… His last bout was a JOKE from the moment it was announced and sadly typifies the low quality of the bulk of his opposition…However he and Haye come to terms it offers a bout with someone who has a high profile and is coming off a devastating win against a guy that Vitali defeated backpedaling and looking uncomfortable for 12 rounds…. Haye one upped his performance against Chisora by a HUGE margin…Posted September 27, 2012 7:09 am
Vitali made very hard work of Chisora ….. whereas Haye blitz’ed him. Vitali would still beat Haye though.Posted September 27, 2012 7:06 am
Vitali would beat Haye imho ….. but Haye is a 100x a better opponent than the likes of Charr and Ademek. A bit harsh on Ademek there but he was hopeless against Vitali.Posted September 27, 2012 7:05 am
Message to author ….. at least try to show balance. Articles written with no objectivity at all are not worth anything. Whatever legitimate opinions you might have are lost in such one-sided nonsense.Posted September 27, 2012 7:03 am
Jeff Myers you have no clue! Haye KO’d Chisora who gave Vitaly all he could handle and took him the distance. Chisora probably took more rounds from Vitaly than al his other opponents since Lewis put together. You are a keyboard warrior and not deserving this form to vent your rubbish.Posted September 27, 2012 6:57 am
90% KO rate….ye no bite at all…Posted September 27, 2012 6:46 am
Why don’t we all judge fighters by their worst performance…..o and while we’re at it lets condemn Haye for effectively promoting a fight with Wlad…..let’s also ignor the fact that Haye is brave for even getting in the ring with a man who is SO much bigger than him…..then let’s casually negate the fact that Haye is a counter puncher and Wlad hardly through a punch because he didn’t want to get tagged in return and was quite happy to hold the center of the ring and win on points in a boring fight…..o wait….didn’t Wlad say he would knock Haye out?! well by this writter’s logic he must have no bottle too then…Posted September 27, 2012 6:43 am
Haye destroyed a fighter who everyone knows beat the European champ and gave the world champ a tough fight…….guess what that equates to earning a title shot…..stop hating!Posted September 27, 2012 6:37 am
Kirk: sure styles makes fights, but i dont see haye slugging it out with Vitali, and i dont see Haye outworking and outpointing Vitali. Sure he could catch Vitali with a big punch, but i doubt that Haye could do what Lennox or Sanders wasnt able to do, even though they caught him with some clean and powerfull shots. IHaye would more likely use the same strategy as he did against Wladimir, and maybe he will land some more punches. Im fine with Haye getting a title fight, i just want him to earn it by beating a topranked fighter.Posted September 27, 2012 6:28 am
Dude get real with the threat of killing a black guy in Vitali’s home land. Rhetoric.Posted September 27, 2012 6:04 am
Well my good fellows. What an absolute garbage opinion piece that was. Firstly: the writer is ignorant to the fact that several families of black footballers didn’t travel to the European Football Championships this summer because of home office advice on racist elements within the country. Secondly: I think that Haye was being a little bit tongue in cheek anyway, there is no way that the fight would ever be in the Ukraine anyway. This article manages to be ignorant, erroneous and moot.
Steady as you go chaps.Posted September 27, 2012 6:01 am
Does Haye deserve a fight with Vitail…. It seems vital thinks so and the fight should take place in his home land. The author and some posters are missing the point… both champs are discussing a fight between them…. Haye is just stating he will not fight in Ukraine. You have to ask yourself who proposed the Ukraine as the destination for the fight to happen…. LET ME TELL YOU IT WAS NOT HAYE… and apparently Vitail and his team thinks Haye might deserve the right to share a ring with him…. And as Vitail is the one getting in the ring… it’s his thoughts that count and on one else’s.Posted September 27, 2012 5:31 am
Kirk…. well said!!Posted September 27, 2012 5:23 am
This article is a joke. He’s already conceding that he’ll have to fight in Germany, again, which is the Klitschko adopted home. He had a poor performance against Vlad but styles make fights and the way he dealt with Chisora, who pushed Vitali all the way, makes it an interesting match up. Instead of going on about bottle, which is easy for you hiding behind your computer, why don’t you tell us what better heavyweight match up is there for VitaliPosted September 27, 2012 5:21 am
Jim H Kabul
What right does Haye have to grace the same ring as the Klitschko brother ? Please Mr Haye try rebuild you’re name after the whole Chisora thing by maybe giving us Brits a non pay-per-view all British affair against the deserving Pryce or even fury.Posted September 27, 2012 4:43 am
Whoever wrote this inane article clearly doesn’t read the news. No, there are no black boxers that have been killed in the Ukraine, but in the run up to the recent Euro football championships, the alarmingly racist element in the country was highlighted yet again. It is a real problem in that country. Instead of reading the backs of cereal boxes, how about reading a newspaper every so often…Posted September 27, 2012 4:23 am
Since when was bravado a bad thing in boxing? Whether it is bad or good, it provides entertainment. As for having bottle, he makes a living by being a professional boxer not pushing pencils and starting a tirade about someone. We all know he was crap against Wlad but for a couple of mill id love to get knocked out by vitali.Posted September 27, 2012 4:20 am
Bill (KlichKO brothers are the best REAL HEAVYWEIGHTS ever)
In my opinion Davey Ga y has to fight guys like Arreola, Price, Fury, Povetkin, Boytsov, Stivern, Adamek, Chambers, Wilder, Jennings, Mitchell etc…Honestly, Ga y didn’t deserve another KlichKO fight. He is all bark, no bite.Posted September 27, 2012 4:13 am
Bill (KlichKO brothers are the best REAL HEAVYWEIGHTS ever)
DAVEY “EXCUSEMAKER” GA Y :)Posted September 27, 2012 4:08 am
Probably the worst written article I’ve ever had the displeasure of reading. It sounds more like a drunken, incoherent rambling. I’m surprised they put it on the site.Posted September 27, 2012 4:05 am
its a shame that they would let an article like this be posted on this site.. i would have done a million times betterPosted September 27, 2012 3:52 am
Clearly – CLEARLY – it’s an attempt to rile Vitali into a fight. If the author of the article can’t see that, he realyl shouldn’t be masquerading as a boxing “analyst”.Posted September 27, 2012 3:45 am
How does this qualify as an article? There are more coherent and perceptive posts in the forum for heaven’s sakes.Posted September 27, 2012 3:09 am