…. “It makes since that sparing for overly long periods would cause one to get use to coasting.”
They’re not coasting when they do that… It’s done to build endurance.. You get tired and still have to defend.. Nobody fights flat out for 3 minutes.. Not even Henry Armstrong did that.. You keep coming in against a good puncher and you’ll get caught, so the “pressure fighter” thing is a bit of a myth.. You pressure guys in spots — not flat out against the best guys in a strong division. When a guy is undefeated and a world champion in 3 divisions he’s doing something right.
Posted December 14, 2013 4:42 pm
TOTALLY AGREE WITH TARK on the above comment. Actually, it’s mentally exhausting as you have to focus even more as both the mind and body tires. Over time, you learn to become sharper in your thinking because as one tires one becomes more prone to make mistakes, so focus is key!Posted December 18, 2013 4:34 pm
“How can people say that Broner can’t make 140?”
No idea Johnny. Broner weighed in at almost 147 for his fight with Malignaggi, and he weighed in at around 145 for his fight tonight, and he looked skinny at the weigh in yesterday. ”
Broner had to dehydrate to make weight for both fights so I have no idea why people are talking about him fighting at 140.Posted December 14, 2013 10:03 pm
I hope Thurman beats Toto-Cara De Azz so if Broner wins, Broner can’t avoid the beating Thurman has waiting for him.Posted December 14, 2013 9:19 pm
oh yeah beibut shumenov should win his fight to tamas kovac is tall with a good jab and decent speed but shumenov just look stronger and he the harder puncher but he did have a long layoff so we see how that will affect him he might rusty it might take like two or three rounds for him to get settle once he do i think then he going to step up his workrate and the pace be agressive and go to the taller fighter body kovac dont look like he a big puncher from what i can see so beibut might walk him down and get him out of there in 6th roundsPosted December 14, 2013 8:53 pm
Bustajay i agree soto karass can very well get the win over keith thurman it wont shocked me if it happens but im just leaning toward thurman for the win i know how tough soto karass is and how far he came so it going to be a test for thurman no doubt even thurman himself knows it but everytime i see thurman it seem like he getting better and better he been looking impressive every fight but karass dont fear nothing but i just think the skills of thurman and his boxing iQ and speed going to overcome karass but thurman going to be in some type of adversity tonight tho again proably worser then he was in the deigo chavez fight i think once again thurman will find a way to pull it off we see i say this fight could steal the show cause karass is not scared to take chances and risk and thurman take chances to that going to make for a hell of a battlePosted December 14, 2013 8:44 pm
SKILLS is more important than SIZE!!!!Posted December 14, 2013 8:44 pm
Even when he hits the heavy bag, his mouth is wide open.Posted December 14, 2013 8:17 pm
Too funny, Broner is a broken jaw waiting to happen.Posted December 14, 2013 8:16 pm
Boner is going to win this and put it in Maidana, but how long he keeps it in the is the question.Posted December 14, 2013 6:46 pm
I am leaning towards Soto for this one tonight but then again I am always looking for the upset. I think Maidana will force the action and AB is an excellent boxer, IMO, but can he handle the power? If Maidana can force a fight AB could go down for the count tonight.Posted December 14, 2013 6:33 pm
and i got santa crus over cesar seda i dont think it be easy for cruz cause seda is a good boxer and rangy fighter and southpaw and he tall and big with good handspeed and foot movement rather he got the punching power to keep cruz off of him remains to be seen and the stamina to keep up with cruz i see cruz doing like he always do break him down and kill that body and being to active wearing seda out i think cruz will stop him around the 7th round i think cruz will be to strongPosted December 14, 2013 6:22 pm
i got keith thurman over soto karass which could be the best fight of the night i think karass going to give keith a run for his money but i just think thurman is to skilled and smart and to quick for karass thurman prove in his last fight he can come back from adversity and make adjustments i think for karass to win he got to use his jab keep his distance he cant just walk in on thurman if he do he going to get counter if u make one mistake with thurman he make you pay if u be to agressive i think karass got to be smart in his approach and his attack karass got a good chin i doubt if he can keep walking to thurman shots eventually it going to have a affect i see thurman using his footwork and angles going to the body i can see thurman stopping karass with a body shot like in the 10th round or 11th or i see thurman winning by udPosted December 14, 2013 6:15 pm
Boner boy was chewing that bubble gum like a alligator chewing on a tennis ball and hopping around like the fight was getting ready to kick off any minute, he likes to be the center of attention, like a 12 year old lol. Kids kinda douchy and unlikable but can box a little, looking forward to this fight.Posted December 14, 2013 6:02 pm
Tark, Floyd made 25 mill that bout against Marquez and the contract provided a range and the penalties Mayweather had the financial luxury of saying “whatever” and paying JMM… Guys make the deal they gotta fight the fight the excuses are too subjective and WEAK for real men… Mikey Garcia was puking and still did his job in the ring… No sympathy you win or lose the rest is politics unless the guys old or clearly shot… You are always bleating and making excuses no wonder that GOON Bears considers you a father figure..Posted December 14, 2013 5:59 pm
Just watched Broner vs Malignaggi again… Paulie has fast hands and cold only land to the body and shoulders his work was easily rolled…
tark is that the great james ped toney you mean.Posted December 14, 2013 5:48 pm
i got broner over maidana by 8th round or 9th round ko either by a body shot or uppercut marcos might have his moments here and there but it wont be enough to beat broner thoPosted December 14, 2013 5:48 pm
Tomato Can, ” He’s a balloon between fights ” hahahahhahaPosted December 14, 2013 5:21 pm
Leaving for the Alamodome right now…should be a great fight card.
Will post updates at the venue!!Posted December 14, 2013 5:06 pm
As far as James Toney goes??? Toney was a great undefeated fighter for he first 48 fights… But he got lazy… He was in lousy condition for Roy Jones and went south from there. He went up to 250 pounds and there was no possible way he was going to get to 168 and be strong for Roy Jones.
He didn’t have the committment to train hard and admitted, “I didn’t train… I didn’t even run for about 8 years.” He made his own bed.Posted December 14, 2013 4:52 pm
If you say so Tark, but a lot of people including trainers disagree with you .Posted December 14, 2013 4:45 pm
None of us know how much Broner can comfortably get down too. He’s a balloon between fights.Posted December 14, 2013 4:42 pm
…. “It makes since that sparing for overly long periods would cause one to get use to coasting.”
They’re not coasting when they do that… It’s done to build endurance.. You get tired and still have to defend.. Nobody fights flat out for 3 minutes.. Not even Henry Armstrong did that.. You keep coming in against a good puncher and you’ll get caught, so the “pressure fighter” thing is a bit of a myth.. You pressure guys in spots — not flat out against the best guys in a strong division. When a guy is undefeated and a world champion in 3 divisions he’s doing something right.Posted December 14, 2013 4:42 pm
Let’s see if he can beat Porter first. 4 and a half pounds is a lot to lose … more than people realize.
That’s why Floyd paid a 600,000 dollar fine rather than trim down from 146 to 144 for Marquez.Posted December 14, 2013 4:34 pm
I agree with Joseph. It makes since that sparing for overly long periods would cause one to get use to coasting, during a fight instead of trying to get as much done as possible within each three minute round…Posted December 14, 2013 4:32 pm
Herron says.., “Do you think that’s why we see frequent lapses in action from Broner within the round?”
I don’t see it that way… Broner doesn’t like to waste punches… If he’s fighting somebody who’s a fair boxer like Paulie, he might pick his spots more to make sure he stays ahead on the scorecards… You can’t knock everyone out and you have to win one way or another. So while Paulie’s stuff is fluff, Broner landed good shots.
With Maidana he’s going to get more chances to land telling punches and he’s going to have to weather more punishment… It’s a much different fight than fighting a feather-hitting runner who grabs your legs, stalls the action as much as possible, and basically does everything in his power to survive … while praying the judges won’t notice what’s going on and hand him the fight.
Maidana actually fights, so you won’t see so many lulls in the action.Posted December 14, 2013 4:14 pm
TARK: “That’s something boxers do today they didn’t do in my day. They’ll box up to 11 rounds without taking a break between rounds. Time is called for 10 seconds while a fresh sparring partner steps in. It’s crazy, but it builds massive endurance for the championship rounds. You need that stamina if you’re an attacker who walks people down and doesn’t give them a break. That’s the thing about Broner — when you want to take a rest he doesn’t let you.”
Tark, don’t you think it could possibly work against Broner in this situation? Fighters like James Toney used to spar for sometimes 40 minutes consecutively and never seemed to have that sense of urgency within a 3 minute round.
Do you think that’s why we see frequent lapses in action from Broner within the round?Posted December 14, 2013 3:58 pm
The only outcomes I can see here is Broner winning by KO, possibly wide UD if Maidana toughs it out.
Porter, amongst many others at 140/147, would annihilate Broner.Posted December 14, 2013 3:36 pm
…. “On both days, Broner boxed consecutively for over twenty minutes without a break, working my guys over to the body and head.”
That’s when he’s in wind down mode — the week of the fight.
That’s something boxers do today they didn’t do in my day. They’ll box up to 11 rounds without taking a break between rounds. Time is called for 10 seconds while a fresh sparring partner steps in. It’s crazy, but it builds massive endurance for the championship rounds. You need that stamina if you’re an attacker who walks people down and doesn’t give them a break. That’s the thing about Broner — when you want to take a rest he doesn’t let you.
If you want to win a major marathon — where all the best runners in the world are showing up — you don’t run 5 miles a day. You run 13 miles a day at a blistering pace and without a break.
Broner-Maidana is a fantastic matchup. They both love to attack hard and throw hard. Broner wins by KO. Maidana has an arching overhand right that could give Broner some problems, because of the way Broner rolls right hands. That will make the fight interesting. This fight is good — but there’s another fight I want to see.
Broner vs Porter will be a freakin’ barn burner.Posted December 14, 2013 3:21 pm
there are some swayable, snap-headed sheep on here and I’m not one if them. Broner is getting stretched. people are comparing Alexander to Broner. Alexander is more of a tech.ically sound boxer. Broner is not. Broner is mimicking Floyd’s defense and he’s not great with it. And Alexander didn’t blow Maidana out. Broner has never truly been punched by such power and Maidana can take anyrhing.Posted December 14, 2013 3:20 pm
We all know Broner is done at 135, there is no money there and he handled his business off top… Testing himself against Paulie at 147 was intelligent progression things change when you move up 2 divisions… Pacquaio went from consistently beating up BADLY or stopping HOF competition at 135 and below to not having gone less than 12 rounds in 4 years…Maidana is a good opponent who will make contact, Broners ability to handle and prevail will give insight into what his future at WW or 140 may hold…He’s gonna be a SMALL WW if he remains there, but this kid wants to make the $$$$$ so he’s gonna do what he has to…Posted December 14, 2013 2:56 pm
Hidalgo: “I mean, why didn’t he drop back down to jr. welterweight–after fighting Paulie and call out Danny Garcia? What about Mikey Garcia who claims he can beat Pac? Instead he went after what he thought was an easy mark at welterweight–Paulie Malignaggi–and got a fairly good schooling about facing a top notch boxer.”
Broner won’t face Danny Garcia unless he absolutely has to…both guys are good friends who have known each other since they were kids in the amateur program.
He can’t make anything less than 140 at this time…no matter what Broner says, he can’t and won’t make 135 pounds ever again.Posted December 14, 2013 2:38 pm
A lot of fans think Mallenaggi beat Broner, but if I had to pick which fighter I’d rather be after the fight I’d be Broner because he landed the heavier shots and took the lesser amount of damage.. Still that doesn’t always tell the whole story.Posted December 14, 2013 2:17 pm
This fight should be good. The edge has to be in Broner’s corner but Maidana has shown heart and determanation. 65 percent chance of UD win for Broner. 30 percent chance for each fighter to win by stoppage. Says Broner should win this fight..Posted December 14, 2013 2:13 pm
What is a spook??Posted December 14, 2013 2:11 pm
wouldn”t it be terrible if the spook got ktfo.Posted December 14, 2013 1:59 pm
I’m off for a w@nkPosted December 14, 2013 1:54 pm
No one is billing Broner as a 135 pounder at this point, like Pacquiao dropping down to 140 to face Hatton I would not be surprised to see Broner banging at 140 in the near future… As for “Paulie Schooling him” I missed that bout and so did 2 judges and most observers… Malignaggi fought a very spirited fight and was no chump, but he was getting hit with the shots that did the most damage and lost…Posted December 14, 2013 1:33 pm
His average fight weights over the last several fights are just a matter of record, the guys nobody’s Jr MW even Cotto who is around the same height as Broner is not a standard Jr MW…. Broner is smaller than Mayweather who is considered a small WW again perhaps he fares well there but he’s physically not imposing in that division he will have to maintain his edge with skills like Floyd as opposed to physicality..Posted December 14, 2013 1:28 pm
broner aint’ gonna box and move he’s gonna run run kike a coyotePosted December 14, 2013 1:26 pm
“Broners average weight in his last several fights is 135 and some change, he knows the path to victory is NOT fighting Maidana on his own terms.. ”
Broner weighed a helluva lot more than 135 at the weigh-in and when he fought Paulie. He weighed a helluva lot more than that when he fought Rees.
A fighter doesn’t move up two full weight classes to take on a world champion as Broner did when he jumped from lightweight to welterweight, if he isn’t really that big–not unless he can pull down the bigger fighter with a catchweight like Pac did against Margarito–or even as Floyd did with Canelo (even though Floyd wasn’t jumping up in weight).
To my memory both Adrien and Paulie weighed close to 160 on fight night. Broner has moved up in weight because he doesn’t have much time left at lighter weights.
I mean, why didn’t he drop back down to jr. welterweight–after fighting Paulie and call out Danny Garcia? What about Mikey Garcia who claims he can beat Pac? Instead he went after what he thought was an easy mark at welterweight–Paulie Malignaggi–and got a fairly good schooling about facing a top notch boxer.
Broner is no 135 lbs fighter. He’s not Floyd Mayweather Jr. who fights close to his walk-around weight. Broner puffs up between fights like a campfire marshmallow.Posted December 14, 2013 12:57 pm
Exciting fight….Broner looks in tip top shape and Maidana is focusedPosted December 14, 2013 12:49 pm
The Great American Joke
Broner is GOING DOWN..round 9….Posted December 14, 2013 12:33 pm
Broners average weight in his last several fights is 135 and some change, he knows the path to victory is NOT fighting Maidana on his own terms.. He’s faster and a more gifted talent that said he should be able to box his way to a wide UD while dealing with the clear and present danger for most of the bout…This is a perfect step up contest for Broner and it indicates his and GBP’s confidence in his skills..Posted December 14, 2013 12:24 pm
i like the slogan for this fight card…as long as no one starts singing the cheesy Kenny Loggins tune!! sheesh!!Posted December 14, 2013 12:24 pm
Broner is better than Maidana in all areas. The only chance Maidana has is to land a lucky punch. Broner has advantages in speed, movement/agility, defense, reflexes, counter punching and every other thing. Maidana has the perfect style for Broner. Broner will test Maidana’s power and speed for 2 rounds and then the massacre will begin. Broner will put on a great boxing performance and win a UD or most likely stop Maidana in the later rounds. Maidana is tough, has a great fighting spirit and will not quit. The referee stops the slaughter. The uppercuts, jabs and straight right hands will be the weapons to dismantle Maidana. Next, Broner has his hair combed and whatever else he has planned. This fight makes Broner a star. I don’t like the guy myself, but he has a lot of talent.Posted December 14, 2013 12:23 pm
Broner has a huge jaw bone. Land a bomb on that jaw and he is goin down to the floor. Maidana knows this.Posted December 14, 2013 12:21 pm
I like broner, but all that shadow boxing, keep looking at me, smacking on gum, talking to me. All that would cause me to want to put you further in to the danger zone. I can just see how maidana was feeling. Some fighters lose their focus, but maidana seemed blind of adrians presence. My dude walked up to the scale like, ” move out my way lil boy”. Lol! That’s what I’m talking about. Lol! No intimidation what so ever. Maidana is gonna try to drop broner like a door knob. I still got broner to win by boxing and moving. I don’t think he will stand and fight. Broner will surprise us with his game plan alright. He must learn how to dance around some day if he wants to take over boxing. I bet he knows it. I wish I could watch this fight and more to come with you boxing fanatics.Posted December 14, 2013 12:14 pm
Working behind a solid jab will make it an easy night. His not as mobile as Floyd and lacks a jab. Still a long way to goPosted December 14, 2013 11:57 am
I predict Broner by UD 116-112. Still, Maidana will be the hardest puncher that Broner has ever faced. AB’s chin & defense will definitely be put to the test. No way Maidana will get KO’d.Posted December 14, 2013 10:43 am
I have my victory cigar waiting with some Johnnie walker platinum. Maidana KO if they don’t rob him. the fix is in when the shadow AL haymon is involved with those greasy camera hogging low down no good ugly suspect Watsons.Posted December 14, 2013 10:04 am
“Broner gets hit too much” no he doesn’t he’s a damn good defender considering how offensive he is… 99% of boxers have to take some leather to give some the RATE true defensive specialists cannot benchmark the rest of the sport…It’s rare you can succeed at the top of the sport being unable to take a shot because it’s gonna happen… Guys like Rios and Margo took WAY too many blows (extreme negligence) whereas AB is not coming outta the ring all banged up..Posted December 14, 2013 9:22 am
I am the real Boxtra, and I picked “the problem” by 12 round decision.Posted December 14, 2013 9:09 am
Vivek “Vito” Wallace
That’s not me, that’s an impostor!Posted December 14, 2013 9:08 am
Madaina by KO. You heard it here first from the greatest fight prophet EVER born!!!Posted December 14, 2013 9:07 am
VIvek “VIto” Wallace
Twas the Night before Christmas, and all thru the Wallace House, the only creature that was stirring, was Floyds c#ck in VIvek’s mouth. When out on the lawn, Vivek heard such a clatter, he pulled Floyds c#ck out of his mouth, so he could get up and go see what was the matter. mmmmmmm, Floyds warm tasty jizz going down my throat!Posted December 14, 2013 9:04 am
Broner needs to use his jab more. A mistake he made against Paulie. He let Paulie get off first way too often. As for Broner being able to get hit — recheck the tape. Paulie, besides a few jabs, never caught Broner clean. Maidana’s problem, beside Broner, is that Maidana isn’t a slickster like Paulie and Broner will be able to easily find him. Maidana will be strong in the beginning and will try to apply pressure, but expect to see him picked apart and broken up down the stretch. Broner gets a top welterweight scalp in this one.Posted December 14, 2013 8:27 am
Marcos maidana is about to lose to another black fighter i.e. devon alexander. Adrien broner is in great shape and maidana is a one dimensional fighter like his fans.Posted December 14, 2013 7:31 am
Damn if wish to See broner on his ass with a surprised look on his face ,wishes can come truePosted December 14, 2013 7:08 am
broner has got to learn to just shut upPosted December 14, 2013 6:17 am
Remember fellas the fight is in texas one of the most shady places to fight for exception of Latin fighters that being said broner is gonna stop maidana you talking about some one who lost to Alexander broner is a better fighter then Alexander I got broner being to fast for maidana toke hands to fastPosted December 14, 2013 5:17 am
Prediction. Maidana hurts Broner early and gets all of us excited. He gets gassed around rd 6 and gets picked apart until rd 9. Close decision for Broner with Broner landing more jabs and Maidana landing more everything else. Soon after there will be talks how Broner should face an upper tier welter like pacman or Mayfeather and Maidana will disappear for a year. This is a bad sitcom. Broner is mediocre at best. He can hit a little but he gets hit way too much. Mayweather and P. Whitaker he is not.Posted December 14, 2013 4:40 am
Worried about maidanas tendency to get hurt to the body. I think that will the key to this fightPosted December 14, 2013 3:58 am
Broner chews gum like sea-biscuit(a horse). Believe me, he’s gettin’ flattened come Saturday night. Go ‘head and stamp that!Posted December 14, 2013 3:27 am
Watch for the referee to help Broner out if he needs it. The criminal judges? Well……………..you know that they appear to have already filled out their cardsPosted December 14, 2013 3:00 am
No one wants to hear what you have to say.Posted December 14, 2013 2:58 am
Why will it not post???? It’s clean.Posted December 14, 2013 1:11 am
Huh?Posted December 14, 2013 1:06 am
Broner is what Boxtra$$wipe would call sissified. Why? Because he’s burning off a lot of weight then hydrating back up to fight in a weight division that he’s actually too big to fight in. You know, Canelo-like. Or Chavez-like. Look how skinny Broner is in that weigh in pic. He’ll easily gain 15 pounds by tomorrow night. I think the guy should be fighting as a jr middleweight.Posted December 14, 2013 1:02 am
Broner will weigh close to 160 for the fightPosted December 14, 2013 12:50 am
Broner-What a delusional piece of Ghetto trash. Needs to be euthanized.Posted December 14, 2013 12:49 am
I cannot wait to watch this fight. I think this will be an exciting match- up . Maidana admits he cannot beat Broner just boxing him so he’ll be going for the KO.Posted December 13, 2013 9:51 pm