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lefhook

Who the fck has the time or would want to read a post like the one below, ffs get a job man

Posted December 19, 2013 6:11 pm 


Hec Dog

Teflon my friend, Manny is ranked #1, but Floyd would rather dump his belt? Where is his integrity? He’s looking more foolish every time he finds a way out of this fight. Regardless what his personal feelings are towards Arum, he has an obligation to the public to fight Manny Pacquiao. Yes, this is a business, and the fans are the ones that pay Floyd those million dollar paydays. Do you think the public believes Amir Khan is more deserving of a fight than Manny Pacquiao? No, no one believes that. At some point in a champion’s career, he must forget about the money (Floyd doesn’t need it) and do what is the right thing to do, which is to fight Manny Pacquiao and stop treating boxing fans, not just Manny Pacquiao fans, but all boxing fans like puppets. Just look around and see what the majority of boxing fans are saying about Floyd Mayweather. He is losing respect as a boxer and as a person. This is the fight business, fight your challengers and shut everyone up or retire and leave the fighting to the real fighters. Floyd is wasting his time trying to justify why he won’t fight Manny Pacquiao. Fans don’t care anymore. He’s all over the sports channels and they all say the same thing, Floyd is scared. Instead he fights guys like Amir Khan? Floyd is tarnishing the worth of a boxing champion. Those fighters that paved the way for him must be turning in their graves. Yes he owns all boxing fans this fight, no question about it. I as well as many more boxing fans have more respect for his uncle Roger that was a very good champion and avoided no one. He was a fighter. Floyd Mayweather is only consumed with his personal power, ego, materials and his money. He has deluded the description of what a champion should be. He has more flaws in his character than most. He tries to paint a picture of innocence, but the public isn’t buying it. The bottom line is simply that Floyd has been dominated by the fear of fighting Manny Pacquiao. Fear has a way of paralyzing the mind, body and soul. Floyd has kept his eye on Manny Pacquiao ever since he came on the scene. He’s always been scared of facing this monster of a fighter. He witnessed the destruction and massacre of Manny’s opponents, yes the same guys that Floyd beat much less impressively. Manny was hurting his opponents badly. Some beaten grotesquely, others remaining unconscious. Floyd must have had nightmares and panic attacks at the mere thoughts of having to face this fierce fighting machine. Floyd twists and turns his words as if he were on a roller coaster. His contradictions are constant. Rumor has it that Floyd Mayweather was crying and celebrating once in jail because he had found another way out of this fight. I feel sorry for him in a way. Fear has dominated Floyd. Deep down he’s an insecure little boy afraid to lose. He is a child in a man’s body, always playing it safe and surrounded by his family. He seems to buy his friends, girlfriends and associates. He needs to be praised and admired. He buys everyone materials and gives them money so they can praise him. Manny Pacquiao on the other hand is a man that handles his life like a man. He accepts his defeats and downfalls and blames no one. Manny is loved, adored, admired and respected by everyone all over the world. He has true character and loyalty almost to a fault. He forgives and forgets. Manny Pacquiao will be remembered as one of the greatest or the greatest fighter of all time, but what’s more important is that people will remember him as a great human being. A man first followed by a great champion second. No one will ever accuse Manny Pacquiao of avoiding anyone or anything. Manny is the best.

Posted December 19, 2013 3:39 am 


Hidalgo

“It’s not illegal so stfu, your opinion sucks and doesn’t count.”

Thanks, Sissy.

Posted December 18, 2013 6:22 pm 


Anonymous

There’s only one FRAUD Mayweather.

King of the cherry pickers.

Posted December 18, 2013 12:18 pm 


Rich

Nappy boy why don’t you come back when you got proof of the accusations on Pacq…….or do what Bunny did,just give Manny some dough and creep of saying “Ars jus wanna clean up baxin”……….

Posted December 18, 2013 3:33 am 


Floyd XYLOCAINE Mayweather

Floyd ” I can’t handle the pain in my hands which is caused when I seldom hit my opponents so for that I will numb my girl hands with XYLOCAINE, But all I ask for is level playing field”.
Pacquiao take the test lol

Posted December 17, 2013 11:05 pm 


Floyd XYLOCAINE Mayweather

1.Floyd came in fat for jmm weigh-ins.
2.Team Pac asks for over wieight fines for Pac vs May fight.
3. Floyd says yes to the over weight fine condition.
4. Floyd’s ego is hurt and now he comes up with a condition which has no basics.
5. rbt
6. Floyd’s excuse to runaway from the fight was rbt.

Posted December 17, 2013 10:59 pm 


Hec Dog

Manny Pacquiao beat Floyd Mayweather in court with a personal apology from Floyd himself. along with a good chunk of change. Floyd would take a more severe beating in the ring. Manny has all the tools needed, and trust me, Floyd will resemble his younger brother Adrien Broner should he find the courage to step in with the ONLY 8 division boxing champion in history. Manny is boxing’s most sought after boxer in the world. He keeps his head high as the vultures try and take him down, but they can’t and won’t. Manny isn’t about money or materials. He’s about respect, love, decency, honor, integrity, humility and making this world a better place. He is the example not only to boxers, but to people. He lets people do all the talking and offers help to those that need it. Even on his birthday, the man was handing out food, water and other needed supplies. He’s not worried about people taking his money. He is more than money, and he will always be able to earn it. This is an icon. He is what most of us want to be. He’s either the first, second or third greatest fighter of all time. Manny is a legend that needs to be respected. Manny’s the best.

Posted December 17, 2013 8:13 pm 


te tumbo

“Floyd Mayweather and Golden Boy paid out massive monetary settlements to Pacquiao” for making accusations without any proof or concrete evidence. only rumors and hearsay. if they had only speculated out loud about Pacquiao’s* ability to move up in weight to face naturally bigger fighters and his rejection of harmless, random, and MUTUALLY-Applied testing, they would’ve been fine. kind of like Hec Dog’s desperate speculation following Marquez’s DEMOLITION of Pacquiao*. of course, all Marquez did was reduce a fellow pumped-up featherweight into an unconscious heap.

Posted December 17, 2013 6:33 pm 


B Red

test

Posted December 17, 2013 6:24 pm 


B Red

Pac will get his ass whooped By Floyd

Posted December 17, 2013 6:19 pm 


TARK

Floyd Mayweather and Golden Boy paid out massive monetary settlements to Pacquiao — complete with apologies and saying they never meant to imply that Pacquiao was a PED cheat.

That says it all… If you lose the legal battle you shut up forever more.

Pac kicked their asses.

Posted December 17, 2013 6:02 pm 


kc

Sad state of affairs for boxing when matches take years upon years to be put together….. Then when its all said and done both are past there primes, just former shells of themselves…. whats the fans to do? I say boycott PPV events!

Posted December 17, 2013 4:09 pm 


te tumbo

correction: i personally feel that Pacquiao’s* has simply been avoiding Floyd . . .

Posted December 17, 2013 4:08 pm 


te tumbo

“Why am I not surpised you pull the rumors crap…” OLD COOT, why would you? if you read the article you would notice that “rumors” is all Hauser cited. otherwise, please direct me to the smoking gun that you imagine was exposed by this article? you won’t find it in Hauser’s article. not even a single instance of Floyd rejecting Random, Harmless, and MUTUALLY-Applied testing, which is inexplicable, indefensible, and suspect. i personally feel that Pacquiao’s been simply avoiding Floyd but i can’t rule out something more sinister and illegal about his pre-fight training regimen. after all, there is no credible excuse for declining improved testing. none whatsoever.

Posted December 17, 2013 4:07 pm 


Happyboy

It’s not illegal so stfu, your opinion sucks and doesn’t count.

Posted December 17, 2013 4:01 pm 


Hidalgo

I also made an error: Presently xylocaine is not deemed to be an illegal substance by the WADA or in boxing. But clearly Floyd uses it to help him fight and to help him win fights. That’s a performance enhancer.

Posted December 17, 2013 3:50 pm 


Hidalgo

In his 45-fight career, Mayweather has fought 21 times in Las Vegas, NV. Every fight since 2006 has been fought in Las Vegas.

Posted December 17, 2013 3:48 pm 


Hidalgo

Regarding my last post to you SRedmond, I meant to say:

But nobody outside of the Mayweather, GBP, USADA circles has seen Mayweather test or had privy to the results of his test. Nobody.

Posted December 17, 2013 3:39 pm 


Hidalgo

Oh, then there’s that sucker punch win over Victor Ortiz.

Posted December 17, 2013 3:37 pm 


Hidalgo

Hec Dog, Heretic, Old Coot, Floyd has proven throughout his career that he will do whatever it takes to get the edge over his opponents. This includes: using a pain-numbing drug so he can fight and fighting only in one state so he can continue to use that drug, rarely fighting anywhere but Las Vegas, NV, cheating on his weight, fighting catchweight opponents, avoiding the most dangerous opponents–when they are most dangerous, and mandating RBT according to his terms and the testing agency of his choice.

Or, we can just act stupid and play blind like SRedmond and many other Floyd nuthuggers who think the man is perfect and does no wrong. Then we could all be fools.

Posted December 17, 2013 3:37 pm 


Hidalgo

“Hidalgo, you are ALL over the place when guys accuse Maidana of looking fishy in the corner you dismiss that outright (I did too) then when some silly story about Mayweather juicing pops up you are all over it”

What is it that you don’t get about a video that shows exactly what Ariza was doing? People have been viewing it for days. Where have you been? But nobody outside of the Mayweather, GBP, USADA circles has seen Mayweather test. Nobody. Nor has any other entity been allowed to do the random testing on him and his opponents. Why is that? Oh, I know you have an answer, but it will be as substanceless as GBP’s, Maywather’s and the USADA’s.

And btw SRedmond, I was only in one “place” regarding the Ariza/Maidana issue and I’ve never budged from it. The video tells the truth. On the other hand there’s nothing to see about Mayweather’s drug testing. We get the info we’re given. That’s it.

Posted December 17, 2013 3:30 pm 


Anonymous

WHO GIVES A FU#K, THERE BOTH OLD MEN.

Posted December 17, 2013 3:23 pm 


Happyboy

Pac could’ve just as easily taken the test, beat up Floyd and collect both cheques from the fight and the court case. Fans would have got what they wanted and this saga would be over.

Posted December 17, 2013 2:56 pm 


Happyboy

Fact is we going around in circles like with Floyds accusations. Come back when you have evidence or proof as you just making assumptions.

Posted December 17, 2013 2:53 pm 


Heretic

All he had to do was produce the documents. It really couldn’t have been any simpler.

”My good reputation has been called into question by these accusations, here are the test results that prove my innocence”

Simple

Posted December 17, 2013 2:40 pm 


Heretic

Test

Posted December 17, 2013 2:40 pm 


Hec Dog

Heretic, Old Coot, Floyd fans just don’t want to entertain the thought that Floyd may not be who he claims to be, The Pioneer of drug testing. Thomas Hauser is boxings most respected boxing writer and author, but still they don’t believe him because he says its a “Rumor”. Sure is interesting that Floyd settled out of court quickly with Manny. I wish Floyd would take the fight so that Manny Pacquiao could beat him all over the ring and put this pretender to rest.

Posted December 17, 2013 2:33 pm 


Heretic

You don’t go from this

”Look at the size of his head. It’s obvious he dirty”

–Floyd Mayweather

”Pacquiao can’t beat Clottey without that s h * t in him. He couldn’t beat De la Hoya without that *expletive*. He couldn’t beat Ricky Hatton without that s h * t. And he couldn’t beat Cotto without that s**t. I don’t even think he could beat that kid from Chicago [David Diaz] without that s h * t. He wouldn’t be able to beat any of those guys without enhancement drugs.”

–Floyd Mayweather Sr.

“This mother***** don’t want to take the test. That’s why the fight [Mayweather vs. Pacquiao] didn’t happen. He got that s h * t in him. That’s why he didn’t want to take the test.”

–Roger Mayweather

To this when you’re petitioned in court to produce your test results

Mayweather Promotions issued a statement that read: “Floyd Mayweather Jr., Floyd Mayweather Sr., Roger Mayweather and Mayweather Promotions wish to make it clear that they never intended to claim that Manny Pacquiao has used or is using any performance-enhancing drugs nor are they aware of any evidence that Manny Pacquiao has used performance-enhancing drugs. Manny Pacquiao is a great champion and no one should construe any of our prior remarks as claiming that Manny Pacquiao has used performance-enhancing drugs.”

Posted December 17, 2013 2:33 pm 


Heretic

Yes I did read the article. You need to read my posts whilst doffing your thinking cap. I couldn’t be any clearer about this. It’s not difficult to deduce why Mayweather did an about turn regarding his accusations and didn’t pursue any legal action PEEJ. Open your eyes and and stop being so wilfully ignorant.

Mayweather’s reputation as a clean fighter has been sullied and his position as the sport’s fiercest campaigner against PED cheats has been greatly compromised by these allegations. So why didn’t he just produce the documents containing his test results to completely nip those allegations in the bud?

Why did he drop all his allegations against Pacquiao and pay him a hefty out of court sum when asked to produce those documents?

Because had he continued to pursue and legal recourse against either Pacquiao or Hauser it would resulted in him having but no choice to produce them. That’s why we’ve never seen those test results.

Posted December 17, 2013 2:27 pm 


Rich

Te Turdo…You grandly proclaim.”Conversely,Manny* remains the only fighter to ever reject stricter testing (but not recognised) and to this day still no credible explanation why?….Floyd remains the only fighter to pay an undisclosed sum in an out of court settlement and to this day still no credible explanation why?…..

Posted December 17, 2013 2:21 pm 


Heretic

Stop responding to questions with questions. You should at least have the good grace to answer them first before you expect others to answer yours.

And Hauser is a very respected. However, Mayweather, Golden Boy, Haymon have a lot more power than he does and friends in very high places. Boxing is a dirty business and there are many who not only have a lot of power and friends in high places, but who also have a vested interest in keeping certain things well hidden. USADA, Haymon, and Golden Boy are bedfellows and obviously as their actions and inactions have proven are clearly as shifty as too.

Posted December 17, 2013 2:18 pm 


PEEJ

Actually if you read the Hauser article it clearly states it is a rumor.

Posted December 17, 2013 2:14 pm 


Happyboy

Hauser wrote this article just over a year ago, if his such a respected journalist how come has there been no further investigations into the dealings and tests @USADA?

Posted December 17, 2013 1:57 pm 


Anonymous

there all on the juice PERIOD.

Posted December 17, 2013 1:16 pm 


Heretic

Apologies.

Because if he continued to pursue any legal recourse against either Pacquiao or Hauser it would resulted in him having but no choice to produce them. That’s why we’ve never seen those test results.

Posted December 17, 2013 1:15 pm 


Heretic

Mayweather’s reputation as a clean fighter has been sullied and his position as the sport’s fiercest campaigner against PED cheats has been greatly compromised by these allegations. So why didn’t he just produce the documents containing his test results to completely nip those allegations in the bud?

Why did he drop all his allegations against Pacquiao and pay him a hefty out of court sum when asked to produce those documents?

Because any continued to pursue and legal recourse against either Pacquiao or Hauser would resulted in him having put no choice to produce them. That’s why we’ve never seen those test results.

Posted December 17, 2013 1:13 pm 


SREDMOND

Rios strength coach is Ariza who worked with Pac Man during his BEST years at WW… I personally don’t accuse Manny and based on the notion that this substance is an over the counter supplement supposedly I don’t place much stock in its efficacy it sure did not help Rios in the ring…. Reality is that the Heretics, Hecdogs, and NOW Hidalgos remind me of CRAZY Tea Party Members who swear that the President is REALLY a foreigner and terrorist masquerading as the POTUS LMAO!!!….. Making WILD unsubstantiated claims is painless on a message board and guys are taking their liberties because there is no consequence… BETWEEN the 3 of them these KOOKS could not produce a piece of concrete evidence if there was a gun in their respective Grandmothers mouths with the looming threat of Grannys dome getting blown off if they did not produce positive test detaling WHAT, WHEN and HOW these boxers supposedly were cheating via administration of an illegal substance… This is common clown ISH….

Posted December 17, 2013 1:10 pm 


Heretic

Winky Wright’s PED Accustions Against Peter Quillin and Golden Boy

Michigan Warrior keeps claiming that Rosado must have been on PED’s since “he looked too big” so i wanted wanted to remind people of Golden Boy and USADA destroying PEDer Quillin’s samples for the Winky Wright fight for those who are unaware.

In mid-May, Winky Wright was preparing to fight Peter Quillin in a June 2nd bout promoted by Golden Boy at the Home Depot Center in Carson, California.

“Everybody kept popping up positive for all this stuff,” Wright told Montoya. “Boxing isn’t always a fair game. I figured I should get this [testing] too. So I called Golden Boy and said, ‘Why we ain’t doing it?’ They was like ‘Uh, etcetera, etcetera, this and this and that, and someone didn’t want to pay.’ I said ‘Okay; I’m going to pay for it. I just want to play on the same field.’”

Wright and Quillin entered into a May 21, 2012 contract with Golden Boy and USADA pursuant to which USADA was to provide drug testing services in conjunction with their fight.

“I didn’t know the difference between [USADA and VADA].” Wright says. “I just told Golden Boy I wanted to be tested and they came back with USADA.”

On or about May 23rd, USADA collected blood and urine samples from Quillin. Wright gave samples on May 24th.

“They came to my house at six in the morning,” Winky recalls. “They took urine, blood, everything.”

Then, without warning, Wright was told that the testing was off.

“I think it was like two days later,” Winky told Gabriel Montoya. “Golden Boy called and told Damian [Ramirez, Wright’s manager], and Damian told me. I don’t understand it. All I’m asking is, ‘How do you take urine and take blood and then, all of sudden, you say you aren’t going to test it?’ Then they tried to make up an excuse and say they wanted to teach us. There ain’t nothing to teach. They took blood. They told us we would take a test and either come up positive or negative. That’s it. All I want to know is, are we playing on the same field? So my lawyer called and asked for it to be tested and they told him they threw it out. They told my attorney they threw it out. That’s crazy. Why would they throw it out? They just finished [taking samples] and they’re going to throw it out already? Does this sound crazy? We gave samples. Let’s test that and let me see the result. They threw it out. I just don’t understand that.”

Quillin-Wright went ahead as planned with Quillin winning a unanimous 10-round decision. Quillin, like Andre Berto and Floyd Mayweather, is managed by Al Haymon.

The contract that Wright and Quillin entered into with Golden Boy and USADA specifically provided, “USADA will be responsible for storing the samples after collection and transporting them safely and securely to a laboratory for analysis…USADA will send all samples for analysis to a WADA [World Anti-Doping Agency] accredited laboratory under contract to USADA…USADA shall maintain Sample Collection Documentation, including test results for testing conducted under this Master Agreement, for a period of six years.”

“The destruction of samples isn’t supposed to happen,” Ryan Connolly states. “If that happened in an Olympic context, it would set off alarms in a lot of places. There would likely be a thorough investigation by the International Olympic Committee and WADA.”

Victor Conte adds, “The trend in drug-testing now is to save samples longer than before, not pour them down the drain.”

Posted December 17, 2013 1:05 pm 


SREDMOND

Correction USADA is a Signatory that oversees the proper administration of WADA Code, testing procedures and WADA accredited labs

Posted December 17, 2013 1:03 pm 


SREDMOND

Hidalgo, I have NEVER liked your habit of running with unproven conspiracies you remind me of the low intellects that populate barbershops and swear that the AIDS virus is in Dentyne chewing gum… Floyd Mayweather does NOT run or control USADA or the United States Anti Doping Agency which overseas WADA (World Anti Doping Association) protocols on the entire continent of North America.. SHOW us HARD proof of how Mayweather has gotten an agency that busted COUNTLESS Olympians and other athletes to ignore his dirty urine??? Where is the HARD proof I mean seriously c’mon we KNOW you just don’t like Floyd Mayweather meanwhile Pac Man has been the subject of PED rumors for YEARS when he refused testing and created stipulations.. I don’t think Pac or Floyd are dirty and I will maintain that position unless a dirtly test is produced and NOT the ravings of some AGENDA driven internet posters… I give you some degree of a pass because you are lacking in critical thinking skills but some of this is ENVY and HATRED at the success and unbeaten record of Floyd Mayweather Jr… I gave Floyd hell for calling Manny a Cheat and I feel the same in regards to guys going down this road and trying to unfairly brand the Superstars of the sport as dirty absent ANY intelligent proof…

Posted December 17, 2013 1:01 pm 


Heretic

The Money Team has at least two PED cheats among their ranks.

Mickey Bey

J’Leon Love

”We all make mistakes”

–Floyd Mayweather to Brandon Rios upon hearing that Rios tested positive

Posted December 17, 2013 1:00 pm 


Heretic

In August of this year, Rodriguez signed with manager Al Haymon. At least three of Haymon’s fghters (Andre Berto, Antonio Tarver, and J’Leon Love) have tested positive for PEDs in the past.

Another Haymon fighter (Peter Quillin) was enrolled in a USADA testing program prior to his June 2, 2012, fight against Winky Wright. Then, after blood and urine samples were taken from both fighters, Wright was told that the testing had been abandoned and the samples were destroyed.

Haymon also represents Adrien Broner.

Broner, Antonio DeMarco, Golden Boy (Broner’s promoter), and the United States Anti-Doping Agency signed a contract for USADA testing prior to the November 17, 2012, Broner-DeMarco fight. But according to DeMarco, he wasn’t tested by USADA for that bout, nor was Broner.

Then, on June 22, 2013, Broner fought Paulie Malignaggi.

“I wanted VADA testing,” Malignaggi recalls. “And I was told, ‘No, we won’t do VADA. If you insist on VADA, there won’t be a fight.’ Finally, I said, ‘F— it. I’m getting seven figures. I’ll go ahead and fight.’ Would I have been more confident that Broner was clean if there had been VADA testing? Absolutely.”

Haymon’s flagship fighter, of course, is Floyd Mayweather.

On June 24, 2013, at a media sitdown before the kick-off press conference for Mayweather vs. Canelo Alvarez, Leonard Ellerbe (CEO of Mayweather Promotions) told reporters, “We’ve put in place a mechanism where all Mayweather Promotions fighters will do mandatory blood and urine testing 365-24-7 by USADA.”

USADA declined a request from this writer for comment on the truth of Ellerbe’s contention. Al Haymon also declined comment for this article. And questions remain regarding the issue of whether or not, several years ago, Mayweather “A” samples tested positive on three occasions.

Referencing that issue, Dan Rafael of ESPN stated during a November 21, 2012, online chat, “I need to see proof before I accuse somebody of something so serious. What is fact, however, is that the settlement in the Pacquiao-Mayweather lawsuit happened after the Pacquiao camp tried to get Mayweather’s USADA testing records. So maybe where there is smoke there is fire.”

So here’s a suggestion. Why doesn’t Floyd Mayweather enroll in VADA’s 24-7-365 program? And let him state publicly, “Any fighter who wants to be eligible to fight me must enroll in VADA’s 24-7-365 program NOW.”

And let’s take it a step further. In addition to Mayweather, Broner, Quillin, Berto, and Love, Al Haymon currently represents Danny Garcia, Devon Alexander, Lucas Matthysse, Marcos Maidana, Leo Santa Cruz, Keith Thurman, Austin Trout, Omar Figueroa, Gary Russell Jr, Sakio Bika, Josesito Lopez, Erislandy Lara, Shawn Porter, Errol Spence, Chris Arreola, Seth Mitchell, and Deontay Wilder.

Let’s assume that all of these fighters are clean. Let them all enter a 24-7-365 VADA testing program. I can’t speak for anyone else. But that would certainly make a believer out of me.

Al and Floyd have enough money to fund it.

It’s easy to talk the talk. Let’s see who walks the walk.

Posted December 17, 2013 12:56 pm 


Heretic

Hidalgo

”Because the USADA and Golden Boy or Floyd himself or his father says he hasn’t? USADA and Golden Boy and Mayweather are brother and sister. Why do you think Floyd only tests with USADA and not VADA? It ain’t no coincidence.’

Very true. Mayweather doesn’t do OSDT and both he, Golden Boy, and Haymon’s fighters don’t want anything to do with VADA. They get awfully defensive whenever someone mentions VADA.

Posted December 17, 2013 12:54 pm 


SREDMOND

Hidalgo, you are ALL over the place when guys accuse Maidana of looking fishy in the corner you dismiss that outright (I did too) then when some silly story about Mayweather juicing pops up you are all over it…Your bias is OUTTA control when people were swearing on the Bible that Manny was juicing I NEVER got on that train because I’m a MAN who are requires proof as opposed to boyish slander designed to explain away results guys don’t like… Bottomline is that if you think the guy who FIRST demanded and implemented enhanced testing during his bouts is “Dirty” then why assume ANYONE is clean Manny included… WHY because you like Pacquiao? AGAIN this is all childish because there is NO proof that PEDS make you a better fighter in fact Keith Kizer (NSAC) stated that of the 60 boxers who tested positive MOST lost…. So what do we make of this??? The second Marquez smashed Manny he was getting accused of juicing by the bitter creeps of ESB Hecdog and others and then when he loses his next bout he decided to stop??? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA The minds of simpletons never cease to amaze… ABSENT a dirty test from a credible organization such rumors have NO weight…

Posted December 17, 2013 12:53 pm 


Heretic

Happyboy the thing that most amuses me about your comment is that you would’ve thought you’d had a real brainstorm there. Did you think I would’ve been completely unaware that one of you Mayweather defenders was going to immediately come back at me with that? You didn’t even realize what I was doing, which to be perfectly honest there really is no excusing why you shouldn’t have.

To answer your question.

No, it would’ve been much easier for Mayweather to produce those documents. You see, contrary to the endless spin you Mayweatrher defenders put on this, it really wasn’t ever about what you try to portray it was. But that’s another argument and one it’s completely pointless delving into with people who are so emotionally involved that they not only cannot see the wood for the tress, but they actually refuse to see it.

Posted December 17, 2013 12:49 pm 


Happyboy

Atleast he is getting tested and possibly figures a way to beat the test unlike Pac whp refuses and gets KOd senseless before he considers rbt

Posted December 17, 2013 12:40 pm 


Happyboy

Heretic – you mean as easy being pricked by a needle for $40M.

Posted December 17, 2013 12:33 pm 


Hidalgo

Because the USADA and Golden Boy or Floyd himself or his father says he hasn’t? USADA and Golden Boy and Mayweather are brother and sister. Why do you think Floyd only tests with USADA and not VADA? It ain’t no coincidence.

Posted December 17, 2013 12:31 pm 


Hidalgo

“Once again Old Coot you are wrong. Floyd has never failed a drug test.”

How would you know, Peej?

Posted December 17, 2013 12:29 pm 


Hidalgo

Oh, wait! Floyd is a saint just like Michael Jordan. He never cheats and he never fouls. Wow!

Posted December 17, 2013 12:28 pm 


Hidalgo

“They wanna pretend you can buy boxing skills in a bottle LOL…. ”

No. But you can buy strength in a bottle. And speed, and longevity, and endurance, and resilience. PEDs enhance an athlete’s performance in more ways than just making him/her stronger. Ask Marion Jones or Barry Bonds, or Lance Armstrong.

Posted December 17, 2013 12:26 pm 


Hidalgo

“Mayweather is the man who introduced the sport of boxing to Random Drug Testing and now suddenly he’s its biggest user?”

It’s possible. Just as it was possible for Lance Armstrong to successfully hide his PED use for so many years.

Posted December 17, 2013 12:21 pm 


Tachyon

You mean Pac will have to borrow money form Mayweather to pay IRS before their will be any negotiations.

Posted December 17, 2013 12:20 pm 


Hidalgo

“Pacman is gonna have to give back all that LOOT from the defamation case first before there’ s any negotiations.”

This is absurd.

Posted December 17, 2013 12:18 pm 


Heretic

And why did Floyd and family mysteriously drop all their accusations about Pacquiao being a drug cheat and settle on a hefty out of court settlement when Pacquaio’s legal team asked them to produce those documents with his test results on? Again it would’ve been as easy as pie to do.

They did a complete U-Turn when asked to produce those test results

From

”Look at the size of his head. It’s obvious he dirty”

–Floyd Mayweather

”Pacquiao can’t beat Clottey without that s h * t in him. He couldn’t beat De la Hoya without that *expletive*. He couldn’t beat Ricky Hatton without that s h * t. And he couldn’t beat Cotto without that s**t. I don’t even think he could beat that kid from Chicago [David Diaz] without that s h * t. He wouldn’t be able to beat any of those guys without enhancement drugs.”

–Floyd Mayweather Sr.

“This mother***** don’t want to take the test. That’s why the fight [Mayweather vs. Pacquiao] didn’t happen. He got that s h * t in him. That’s why he didn’t want to take the test.”

–Roger Mayweather

References to Pacquiao’s alleged PED use by the other defendants in the defamation action were more subtle. But their message was similar.

To

Mayweather Promotions issued a statement that read: “Floyd Mayweather Jr., Floyd Mayweather Sr., Roger Mayweather and Mayweather Promotions wish to make it clear that they never intended to claim that Manny Pacquiao has used or is using any performance-enhancing drugs nor are they aware of any evidence that Manny Pacquiao has used performance-enhancing drugs. Manny Pacquiao is a great champion and no one should construe any of our prior remarks as claiming that Manny Pacquiao has used performance-enhancing drugs.”

Posted December 17, 2013 12:00 pm 


Heretic

Floyd Mayweather is desperate to clean up the sport, right? He was the one at the vanguard leading the attack to rid the sport of these filthy cheats. The ”one who is taking a stand” for what’s right. So surely having an article floating around that’s been penned with someone with as much credibility and gravitas as Hauser holds within the fight community is highly damaging and harmful to his reputation and credibility, no? Of course it is, so why on earth hasn’t he just produced the documents with his test results on if he has nothing to hide? I mean how difficult would that be? It would shut everyone up in a heartbeat if he did.

Posted December 17, 2013 11:56 am 


Happyboy

Next year May is gonna take care of Danny Garcia in May, then Maidana in September. Then when Pac has rematched Bradley & paid off some of his tax bill, May is gonna take care of him too sp he can also have some bread for when he retire. LOL!

Posted December 17, 2013 11:45 am 


Happyboy

Pacman is gonna have to give back all that LOOT from the defamation case first before there’ s any negotiations. Thats whats up, then he gonna have to agree to 70/30 split, rbt till day of fight cut off. & dump Arum so he can keep himself some LOOT after the fight and stop getting swindled by that snake Arum. May is gonna take care of his OWN like his done for many fellow boxers giving them ends and burying some OGs and Champs. That is Mayweather, ladies and gents.LOL he tried to let Pac know whats up but the midget is bit slow and now with the tax charges, his coming around.

Posted December 17, 2013 11:42 am 


SREDMOND

Who is going to pay any of these clownish assertions ANY mind??? Mayweather is the man who introduced the sport of boxing to Random Drug Testing and now suddenly he’s its biggest user? A guy who is not even known for seeking to overpower his opponents or even comes to the ring anything but small for the weight be that 154 or 147…. We have seen FMJ hit the scales at 146 against boxers in recent memory… But alas the BITTERNESS that this FLASHY UBER Successful Athlete has created in some spineless creeps is truly a thing of beauty… They wanna pretend you can buy boxing skills in a bottle LOL…. Meanwhile Mayweather has been doing this at the highest level since he was 21 years old hitting the scale at 130 pounds… AGAIN this is just commentary on how GREAT Floyd Mayweather Jr is and how much he has accomplished, guys think he can buy off an organization like USADA for what 1 or 2 events a year when they are responsible for testing hundreds if not thousands of athletes… Serious DULLARDS and CHILDREN abound on ESB…

Posted December 17, 2013 11:19 am 


PEEJ

And this is off of yalls article that yall keep referring too

On May 20, 2012, a rumor filtered through the drug-testing community that Mayweather had tested positive on three occasions for an illegal performance-enhancing drug.

See how it says a rumor? Rumors aren’t true until there are facts that go along with it.

Posted December 17, 2013 11:02 am 


PEEJ

Once again Old Coot you are wrong. Floyd has never failed a drug test. And until there is actual facts that come out about it, not an article that is not fact and that is per the writer. Then that is all hear say. But I mean if you believe fictional books too then that is all on you.

Posted December 17, 2013 10:53 am 


Young.L

6) zab judah 7) shane Mosley 8) Ward 9) Cotto 10) delvin rodrighes

Posted December 17, 2013 10:35 am 


Young.L

p4p list
1) Mayweather 2) Broner 3)danny garcia 4) paulie malenagi 5)pacquiao 6)

Posted December 17, 2013 10:32 am 


Young.L

My.homy broner got.robbed.he.won. maidona didn’t do enuff 2 take belt. U got 2 beat the champ!

Posted December 17, 2013 10:25 am 


Happyboy

The #1 boxer in the world, highest paid athlete fails 3 drug tests and only Hauser writes abt it.

Posted December 17, 2013 8:29 am 


Happyboy

Old Coot – 3 failed tests and all you have is an article as evidence.

Posted December 17, 2013 8:12 am 


Hidalgo

“Floyd has never failed a drug test.”

Says who?

Posted December 17, 2013 6:14 am 


Old Coot

So loyal but blind Floyd apologists can call the Hauser article “just rumors” all they like… But we now all know Floyd is the only one between him and Manny who repeatedly failed RBTs and covered it up, and who and even paid Manny to drop the lawsuit!

Posted December 17, 2013 4:18 am 


Old Coot

Te Tumbo: Why am I not surpised you pull the rumors crap… 3 failed tests don’t sound like rumors to me… And so you’r saying that Floyd can make up demands for RBT, with ZERO evidence, but THAT is taken as fact, but this article by a respected insider is RUMOR? Yeah ok! Dude you sound like a stupid Obama hater! LMFAL!!

Posted December 17, 2013 4:09 am 


bearcat’s ”granny

”Their only one runner / shoulder giver / hugger /and that ”Floyd’s .:

Posted December 17, 2013 3:13 am 


te tumbo

Hauser’s article can be summed up with rumor, rumors, resulting in a big “what If?” Mayweather can’t be considered dirty simply because there is a “rumor” implying that he is dirty(?!). Nonsense. a huge exercise in circular reasoning whereby the conclusion is the speculation and analysis itself(?). it’s the same type of illogic underlying Pacquiao* worship: “Pacquiao* must be the greatest because he is the GOAT”(?). it is literally talking in circles. chasing one’s own tail. resulting in Pacquiao* fans (and Floyd-Haters) being among the dizziest fans in boxing history

Posted December 17, 2013 3:07 am 


Old Coot

I meant to say, there was NEVER even any “hearsay” about Pac-man… Not until Floyd started it… Nobody official… JUST FLOYD!!! More specifically his incoherent pops, Floyd Sr.

Posted December 17, 2013 2:19 am 


Old Coot

PEEJ: So since it’s just hearsay, seems to me there was even any hearsay about Pac-man… Not until Floyd started it… But hearsay didn’t stop him from demanding drug tests he can’t even pass… So how come Pac-man needed to accommodate the one who has hearsay from officials who saw the repeated failed test… Meaning your chicken girlfriend FLOYD!… HUH?

Posted December 17, 2013 2:16 am 


TARK

This pundit predicted Broner would win… and he admits he was an AB fan.

Yet he says.., “The beating that Broner took this past Saturday night was eerily similar to the beating Glenn Tapia took just one week earlier.”

No it wasn’t…

Tapia had no defense whatever and was stopped. Broner got badly beaten up—but he hung tight for 12-rounds and was still trying to win at the final bell. Give Adrien credit for fighting to the last gasp.

This pundit said Broner was.., “Totally unprepared for the BIG stage. Broner failed in several areas. His PREPARATION was MARGINAL at best.”

That’s a load…

Broner is very familiar with the big stage. He may have been over-trained. He was sparring over 20 minutes without a break in his final week of preparation. That’s pretty unusual—because you need to wind down your camp a little faster … and cut sparring a little quicker than that.

As far as comparing Broner with Mayweather—Broner won his 3rd Divisional World Championship at the age of 23.. Floyd was 25 before he moved up to win his 2nd Divisional World Championship..

Broner is not Mayweather—but that’s OK.. It’s OK to lose a boxing match.. A contest in pugilism is a game my friend—and don’t tell me you’ve never lost a game.. It’s not a problem to lose—unless Broner pulls a Nazim Hamed—and is embarrassed to ever show his face again. Hamed had the most cowardly reaction to losing I’ve ever seen.

AB needed a dose of humility and this was it… For Floyd it was 90 days in the can—for Broner is was getting his ass kicked royally.

Posted December 17, 2013 12:56 am 


SREDMOND

Guys acting like Broner losing marks his death as a fighter is retarded.. He fought like a Champion during the Championship rounds and showed he was not handing over his title to Maidana, I have seen GREAT fighters yield when they are in a firefight like that… Broner was willing to go out on his sheild and a lot of guys talk that talk but when push comes to shove they back down and they play it safe… This kid is 24 and he lost to a World Class puncher, I say it again if Wlad who was mostly GUTLESS in his losses could rebound to have a career then Broner has plenty of room to grow and prosper…We just saw Pacquiao
Flattened by a 40 year old Marquez yet guys still think he can beat Mayweather… We will see where Broner goes from here but writing him off is premature as hell..

Posted December 17, 2013 12:55 am 


Happyboy

Xylocaine – How is rbt an excuse? Was it an excuse whn Pac requested itto Rios. Some real idiotic fans on this site. Do you even read the crap you post?

Posted December 17, 2013 12:43 am 


Floyd XYLOCAINE Mayweather

A guy who uses XYLOCAINE to numb her hands before a fight because she can’t take the pain in her hands when she seldom hits her opponents is asking for rbt and level playing field.

LOL

Posted December 17, 2013 12:37 am 


Floyd XYLOCAINE Mayweather

Only Floyd knows how to runway from a beatdown by using rbt as an excuse.

Posted December 17, 2013 12:34 am 


Floyd XYLOCAINE Mayweather

@te tumbo
Btw, a $10 million overweight clause is what i’d call an over-the-top and insulting condition but Floyd agreed to it.
……………………………………………………………………………………….
dont forget that Floyd did not make weight for jmm fight hence the $10 mill clause.

Posted December 17, 2013 12:20 am 


Floyd XYLOCAINE Mayweather

Hey boxing fans lets give Floyd a belt made of cherries for which he will pick the cherries himself as he is the best cherry picker.

Posted December 17, 2013 12:16 am 


PEEJ

Really. And what Ortiz did to Floyd was alright huh? And the red said fight. You fight when that happens not try to hug and kiss, you protect yourself at all times. And I never said anything about his character. I appreciate his greatness in the ring. And Pac accusing Marquez of PED use is ok but it’s not ok for Floyd accusing Pac for the same reason Pac accused Marquez? You just have a double standard as most Pac fans do

Posted December 16, 2013 11:50 pm 


Hec Dog

You can email Thomas Hauser with any questions you have regarding his article. I suggest you do so he can give you his full take. Thauser@rcn.com

He is very good at getting back to people…

Posted December 16, 2013 11:38 pm 


Whoever

It’s really difficult to respect this guy except for his craft…have not seen true heart and character imir likeability…have not bought his fights in years… I do respect guts, heart and integrity…. This guy is a coward and the thing he pulled with Pac, accusing him of PEDS without evidence was nauseating…-and how he beat Ortiz showed his true ugly character…

Posted December 16, 2013 11:33 pm 


Whoever

The reason everybody tries to make Pac look good and Floyd look bad is because Pac looks good and Floyd looks bad, that is fact. People like you try to make Floyd look good, don’t know and can not understand why. He is just an as$hole who would get beat by the true greats in their prime. His personality is a big issue and he ain’t that great, just his mouth and cherry picking…

Posted December 16, 2013 11:29 pm 


PEEJ

And how are they kept from NSAC when they are the ones administering the test when he so called failed. Y’all will say anything to try and make Pac look good and Floyd look bad and the only proof you have is a non factual article that is theory and the writer even says it.

Posted December 16, 2013 11:19 pm 


PEEJ

Hauser wrote an article that is not factual, all theory and he says that in the article. Says there is no proof but this is what was said. Just like when one of Pacs team wanted to know what would happen if he failed a drug test

Posted December 16, 2013 11:17 pm 


Whoever

There is only one as&hole, Floyd Mayweather*

Posted December 16, 2013 11:16 pm 


PEEJ

Old Coot. No Floyd did not fail. All hear say.

Posted December 16, 2013 11:15 pm 


Hec Dog

My thoughts exactly Old Coot.

Posted December 16, 2013 10:54 pm 


Old Coot

Peej said- “Once again it is all hear say.” Oh EYE See… So repeated failed sample A results that were waived and kept from NSAC are all just some OK rumor, that gives Floyd a pass, but Floyd’s opinion alone is enough to demand OSDT for Manny who NEVER failed a single test and kill the fight that MILLIONS want to see? Gotcha!!

Posted December 16, 2013 10:50 pm 


Martin

“As a Broner fan…” A BRONER FAN?! Do you have any idea how sad that makes you??

Posted December 16, 2013 10:45 pm 


Old Coot

PEEJ: Floyd DID fail… But because he’s Floyd… They covered it up… Maybe even kept it from the NSAC… Hell, it’s looking like he even paid Manny to drop the defamation suit after he failed the test. Go read the article Hec Dog is talking about dude.

Posted December 16, 2013 10:45 pm 


Hec Dog

1-2 combo, I can relate, I made some easy money on Manny’s fights and If Floyd finds it in him to get to the table and make the fight, I will gladly and happily take a few dollars from you also my friend. And like you said, lets see it signed first.

Posted December 16, 2013 10:36 pm 


1-2 combo

Hec dog – lets jus all hope it gets signed. Made some easy money from the canelo fight so im looking to do it again.

Posted December 16, 2013 10:30 pm 


The Prince

Mayweather haters are so desperate it’s laughable. This reminds me of Robert Guerrero and how his beating of Berto’s shoulder roll was suppose to prove that he could beat Mayweather. Mayweather fought him and outclassed him. And what about Canelo Alvarez? After he beat Austin Trout the usual suspects on ESB was saying that it proved Canelo could beat Floyd (or a slick black fighter by the racist) and Mayweather would be too scared to fight him. They even went as far as to say that if Floyd doesn’t at least fight Canelo because of the failed Pacquiao fight, it would prove that Mayweather avoids dangerous fights and ducked Pacquiao. Floyd fights Canelo and makes him one of his most easiest fights to date despite barely making 154; rapidly losing weight after the weight-in, and Canelo being over 20 pounds heavier. Now these same sad people are trying to claim that Maidana cracked the Mayweather code, because he beat an imitation in Broner. Hilarious. Be careful, Floyd might fight Maidana next and not only outclass him, but knock him out.

Posted December 16, 2013 10:25 pm 


Hec Dog

1-2 combo, please read Heretic post. Thomas Hauser is very credible. And I have too many bets on the Floyd v Manny fight if it happens. Let’s see the fight signed, and we will make a bet.

Posted December 16, 2013 10:23 pm 


1-2 combo

Hec dog – I do not under estimate manny at all but I recognise the one off tslent that mayweather posses. Whilst I agree that pac throws unconvention punches and is like a whirlwind with his speed and in and out movement etc, he is NOWHERE NEAR the skill level of floyd and that is ultimately what count. On top of this, mayweather will have height and reach advantage which is not something u want mayweather to have over you. Pacmans defens is average at best, and one he starts getting hit with constant jabs he will become frustrated. He will launch attaks but wont be able to get close to mayweather. Lets be hones no one can. Then as he gets more confused and frustrated he will start to get picked apart. Mayweather UD or late stoppage. I am willing to bet you any amount of money on this.

Posted December 16, 2013 10:20 pm 


1-2 combo

I read the article and it begins with victor conte advising about drug testing, which is almost like broner giving advice on how to have good manners so lets all agree to ignore that part of the article. It then goes no to talk about how there was a “rumour” that floyd possibly failed an A sample. Clearly this rumour did not make it past that website. Floyd is one of if not the biggest sportsman in the world. If there was even a hint that he failed a drug test whether the rumour was false or not there would be a media storm. There was no mention of this “rumour” on any boxing websites, sports channels or even those gossip sites where they will say elvis was seen last week eating a burger. So all we are left with is a man who wrote an article based on a “rumour” that has come from nowhere so the whole artle lacks any credibility and substrance. For these reasons, I am williing to stick my neck out and call BS

Posted December 16, 2013 10:11 pm 


Heretic

PEEJ Thomas Hauser is one of, or rather, THE, best writer in the sport and he is held in extremely high esteem by his peers and many involved within and outside the fight fraternity. He has an awful lot of credibility and gravitas, if was merely hearsay, then why hasn’t Floyd sued him for defamation of character? And moreover, why on earth did Floyd and family totally withdraw all their accusations regarding Pacquiao being a drug cheat when Pacquiao’s legal team requested they produce the documents with his three failed test results on them and pay Pacquiao an undisclosed (which would’ve obviously been a substantial sum) out of court settlement?

Floyd could’ve easily met their request and produced the documents with test results but he chose not to. And he also didn’t try to sue Hauser for defamation of character for publishing that article. Hausler isn’t stupid. He wouldn’t have written a libelous article that could’ve got him in a lot of trouble unless he knew he was onto to something.

Posted December 16, 2013 10:10 pm 


Hec Dog

PEEJ, he did say he thought Floyd would win, but he has never given the legendary Manny Pacquiao any credit since Manny beat him 3 times. so I never thought he would give say that he would beat Floyd. Even today, Marquez continues to run away from Manny.

Anonymous, you must understand both styles to see what will likely happen. Floyd will be lost, and by the time he can get any grasp of Manny’s style, it will be too late. When you have current and past boxing champions say that they think Manny will win it’s because they know how styles work. Remember, Floyd will face Manny for the first time. Manny has stamina and does not gas out. I’m still very skeptical that this fight will ever happen, but trust me, Manny will win it.

Posted December 16, 2013 10:10 pm 


Anonymous

Hec dog your statements hold no weight how can Manny have the style to beat Floyd when he couldnt beat Marquez nor Bradley, I will give you the bradley fight even though he never domianted him but Marquez put your boy in a coma? Floyd been beating southpaws his whole career…

Posted December 16, 2013 9:50 pm 


PEEJ

Hecdog what else did Marquez say? Floyd was better and would beat Pac

Posted December 16, 2013 9:46 pm 


PEEJ

Once again it is all hear say.

Posted December 16, 2013 9:45 pm 


Hec Dog

1-2 combo, Manny Pacquiao is one of the greatest if not the greatest fighter of all time. I think you a well as many others are underestimating him. Manny did beat up Hatton, Margarito, Rios and many others because of Manny’ brutal power, which Floyd does not have. On the other hand Floyd has beaten guys with his speed, counter punching and defense. He did show weaknesses in his fights vs Zab Judah, Chop Chop Corely (both southpaws), Mosely and Cotto. Manny is faster and stronger from what Juan Manuel Marquez said as he has fought them both. Manny is not your average fighter. He is different in the way he moves, the angles he throws punches from, the feints he uses to throw everyones timing off and his power. Floyd will be faced with facing a fighter with faster hands and feet and a southpaw, which he has shown to have some difficulties with even though he won those fights. Manny boxed, countered and displayed an entire new facet to his game. Mike Tyson, Roy Jones, Sugar ray Leonard and Marvin Hagler were impressed. And all of them said that Manny is more than capable of beating Floyd Mayweather. I’m telling you, styles make fights, and Manny has that style that will leave Floyd scared and frustrated. Trust me that shoulder roll stuff that he does will not work. His moving away will not work because Manny is the better athlete. Manny Pacquiao may fight totally different than Floyd and his fans expect. We all know how Floyd fights. He has great reflexes and speed of hand, and that’s what he wins his fights with. Well, Manny is faster and his feints will have Floyd guessing and off balance. Floyd is the bigger guy and may even come at Manny until he gets hit. Manny Pacquiao will win this fight shockingly. I’m all in and have studied both guys. The same answer comes out in the end. Manny wins. I’m telling you now as I have said previously, Manny Pacquiao will win this fight impressively.

Posted December 16, 2013 9:44 pm 


Hec Dog

1-2 combo, go to maxboxing.com The article is called “The Ped Mess” by Thomas Hauser. I would like to see what your thoughts are.

Posted December 16, 2013 9:24 pm 


1-2 combo

Looked for the article but couldnt find it. I highly doubt it will change my opinion on the situation because we all know the facts of what happened. I f you dont read my comments below.

Posted December 16, 2013 9:10 pm 


te tumbo

HEC DOG, i also read the article and concluded that it was no more enlightening than the “pills” you imagined Ariza shoving into Maidana’s mouth. right in front of Garcia’s face and in full view of the camera. i’ve watched the clip several times and still don’t detect what you desperately suspect.

Posted December 16, 2013 8:56 pm 


te tumbo

Btw, Pactards* have no credibility when it comes to testing. after all, they vehemently defended Pacquiao’s* right to reject improved testing. what was it again? “Floyd doesn’t make the rules. Pacquiao* doesn’t have to take any tests not mandated by the commissions”. Marquez publicly challenged Pacquiao* to improved testing (“any test, any time. I have nothing to hide”), but it was only after he DEMOLISHED Pacquiao* with the #1 KO in Boxing history that Pac’s* fanboys suddenly insisted on improved testing, investigations, but NO hard requirement for Pacquiao* to be tested if once again challenged to do so. in fact, i still haven’t read anything confirming Pacquiao’s* willingness to unconditional, harmless, random, and MUTUALLY-Applied testing to absorb his career-ending beatdown v. Mayweather. would someone please direct me to that link?

Posted December 16, 2013 8:53 pm 


PEEJ

Hecdog I already read it months ago

Posted December 16, 2013 8:50 pm 


PEEJ

And just so y’all know The article that came out about Floyd’s so called failed test is hear say and in the article the guy states this is not fact, just hear say. Just like when Teddy Atlas said he had inside info on Pacs camp from someone who asked what would happen if one of Pacs test came back dirty. All hear say

Posted December 16, 2013 8:50 pm 


Hec Dog

Old Coot, notice how Floyd fans don’t want to read the article. Wonder why?

Posted December 16, 2013 8:48 pm 


PEEJ

Floyd has never failed a drug test.

Posted December 16, 2013 8:46 pm 


te tumbo

in another day and era, mandatories meant something. unfortunately, those who make those decisions, endorse the titles, or make titles up to suit promotional interests, have no more credibility among hardcore fight-fans. i stopped keeping track of the titles years ago. bottomline, few fight-fans look to the sanctioning bodies to designate the worthiest fighters. we know who they are. title-belts or not.

Posted December 16, 2013 8:46 pm 


PEEJ

Old Coot you need to stop. All of Floyd’s opponents have to take a test. Washed up or not. He has to take the test. It’s already a requirement. If he declined it then it means he don’t want the fight. Arum already is on record for not wanting the fight by saying Pac is coming back in April after Floyd already said he is coming back in May months before Pac even fought

Posted December 16, 2013 8:45 pm 


RapidFire

@Big Moe..I’m actually a Floyd fan but dude they just made Manny Floyd’s mandatory to his WBC 147lb title and Floyd said himself “he can have the belt..a belt don’t make me.” That’s my first count of Mayweather ducking. The rest were Manny and Bob Arum…

Posted December 16, 2013 8:41 pm 


te tumbo

Btw, a $10 million overweight clause is what i’d call an over-the-top and insulting condition but Floyd agreed to it. conversely, Manny* remains the only fighter to ever reject stricter testing and to this day still no credible explanation as to why?

Posted December 16, 2013 8:40 pm 


te tumbo

“So Manny it the one who is at fault, for refusing BS tests that Floyd knew was BS, when Manny’s samples have NEVER failed but Floyd’s have?” OLD COOT, Exactly! after all, precisely what is it about a “BS test” that would prevent ANY fighter from confirming a $25-$50 million payday v. his primary P4P rival? everything else is deceptive rhetoric designed to direct attention away from the one and only point of contention that ever really mattered. BS test or not, humor Mayweather, agree to the harmless test, and collect your payday and “W”. precisely what about this equation consistently eludes EVERY Pactarded* fanboy?

Posted December 16, 2013 8:36 pm 


Old Coot

I really hate being right about Floyd’s BS PED demands from day one… NOT!!!

Posted December 16, 2013 8:23 pm 


Old Coot

Hec Dog: Great find… Just read it… Talk about ironic eh?

Posted December 16, 2013 8:22 pm 


Old Coot

te tumbo: Oh EYE see… So Manny it the one who is at fault, for refusing BS tests that Floyd knew was BS, when Manny’s samples have NEVER failed but Floyd’s have? LOL!! Never say die eh Tumbo? HAAAAH!!

Posted December 16, 2013 8:21 pm 


Hec Dog

Thanks Old Coot!

Posted December 16, 2013 8:19 pm 


te tumbo

meanwhile, whether fight-fans tune in to watch Floyd win or lose, both are still reasons to watch any bout that includes a reasonable or even remote possibility that Floyd will be tested if not defeated. otherwise, without the built-in fanbases of DLH, Hatton, Cotto, and Canelo, Floyd’s appeal isn’t enough to single-handedly pull off a PPV payday, e.g., only DLH can attract 900K to his matchup v. Mayorga. Floyd v. Mayorga would do no better than Pacquiao* v. Rios.

Posted December 16, 2013 8:17 pm 


Old Coot

Thanks Hec Dog… YOU THE MAN!!

Posted December 16, 2013 8:14 pm 


1-2 combo

old coot – I have no reason to make manny look bad. Contrary to what u might think I am a manny fan, but everything I stated was FACT. Floyd is not blameless at the negotiating table but I always found it strange why a sportsman would refuse a drug test regardless of the circumstances the test arose. That being said, the bottom line is, boxing is a business and golden boy do not do business with top rank period. This is with all fighters not just manny and floyd. Personally, I think arum is in the way and is holding manny back. Manny needs to take control of his career and follow floyds blueprint because it is clear who has been more sucessful in the ring and financially. U still dont understand why people think manny can veat floyd. I think part of it is pure hatred for floyd couple with a bling love for manny. Manny has always stuggled with slick skillful boxers and they get no slicker than floyd. He was put to sleep by marqes and cotto did well in the first few rounds before he was caught. Mannys best wins are against guys like rios, margarito and hatton. Guys who are basically punching bags with zero skill. Put him in with mosley, marqez or a fighter who s not going to simply stand there and he looks a lot more limited.

Posted December 16, 2013 8:10 pm 


te tumbo

“Floyd is always taking credit for being a clean fighter and being a pioneer of sorts”, which Manny* reinforced by rejecting harmless drug testing and a $25-$50 million payday to face his primary P4P rival. there is still no credible excuse for this action by Pacquiao* who now wishes he had simply accepted the payday and mismatch in Floyd’s favor before proceeding to go broke without it.

Posted December 16, 2013 8:08 pm 


te tumbo

Broner did take a big risk moving up to 147lbs to face Maidana but his conceit and arrogance resulted in huge miscalculations that directly played into Maidana’s strength. Broner confidently assumed that the contrast in styles would unfold as decisive advantages in his favor. however, the matchup quickly got away from him when he was unable to master or adapt to the altered physics at 147lbs, e.g., the range that Broner was accustomed to dominating materialized in the middle of Maidana’s wheelhouse(?!). instead of masterful sticking and moving, ducking and countering, Broner quickly found himself in a deep trench exchanging with Maidana without the range to avoid leads, counters, and combos, all of which Maidana was landing with regularity. consequently, Broner’s defense was thoroughly undermined and he never adapted to being regularly tagged and dropped by the presumably crude, plodding, and predictable Maidana who confidently planted his flag in the combat zone that Broner simply didn’t have the power, skills, or experience to escape.

Posted December 16, 2013 8:05 pm 


Old Coot

So according to boxing insider Thomas Hauser, as it turns out MONEY is the REAL cheater!! I say strip his last 4 wins!!

Posted December 16, 2013 8:01 pm 


Hec Dog

Floyd Mayweather fans need to read an article written by one boxings most respected Boxing Writers, Thomas Hauser. The article, “The Ped Mess” is very interesting. A lot of questions surrounding Floyd Mayweather. Go to Maxboxing.com and then tell me what your thoughts are on Floyd Mayweather. Floyd is always taking credit for being a clean fighter and being a pioneer of sorts. read this article and tell me what you think.

Posted December 16, 2013 7:46 pm 


Old Coot

I mean it’s hilarious how you Floydiots actually think we can’t see through Floyd’s crap.

Posted December 16, 2013 7:46 pm 


Thurmal Underwear

If Pac wanted the fight, he could have had it already, he had his chance and was scared of needles. It is what it is. Now he’s broke and has to wait in line…..a long line. A line that extends around the corner to 2015 when his contract is up; he’ll be more than willing to sign then, I assure you. Plus Al Haymon will set him up w/ a nice pay day – more than ol’ Bobby would pay him. And Floyd will give the midget a boxing lesson.

Posted December 16, 2013 7:46 pm 


Old Coot

What kind of phony untouchable, ATG, still harps on extra blood tests for a has-been? Especially a has-been who even as other fighters test positive, MANNY, STILL has never failed a single test?

Posted December 16, 2013 7:45 pm 


Old Coot

This is the laughable part… So Floyd calls Manny a “washed up has-been” right? But still needs extracurricular testing?…

Posted December 16, 2013 7:45 pm 


Boxtradamus

I took Broner out of MY personal Top 10 P4P list last week and I was Prophetically CORRECT!!!!! I am the GREATEST Fight Prophet ever born!!!!!!!!!!

Posted December 16, 2013 7:36 pm 


Old Coot

1-2 Combo: Of course you say that because you want to make Manny look bad… But trust me, unless you were an hungry contender, looking to come up, you’d tell your fellow star Floyd to go straight to Hell!! So gimme a break. Especially if you didn’t like him.

Posted December 16, 2013 7:33 pm 


1-2 combo

old coot – If I was in mannys position I would take the test, because that is a reasonable request consider it one of the most dangerous sports u can compete in. If u run the 100 meters at the olympcs the test is more stringent than when u box. That does not make any sense so if floyd asked foe the test I would have said yes because then I would know we were BOTH clean and then I could beat him in the ring fair and square. I would not say no, then say I am scared of needles (yet I have tatoos), then say yes with a cut off point of 14 days, then change it to 7 days, then say it can be random with no cut off point. All of these excuses raise a huge cloud over his head when it did not have to be that way. With all these drug allegations going on in boxing it seems that mayweather was one step ahead of the game and best for of drug testing cannot be a bad thing. I can say without doubt that mayweather is clean but I cannot say the same about pac with the same level of assurance and the reason for this is that he REFUSED to take a drug test which will make question ANY sportsman who does so.

Posted December 16, 2013 7:17 pm 


PEEJ

And it would be clear he doesn’t want the fight for the simple fact that he accused Marquez and also did the same testing Floyd asked for with Rios

Posted December 16, 2013 7:16 pm 


PEEJ

Sorry but every Floyd opponent has to do it. And if Pac declined the test again if they ever go back to negotiations then it should be very clear that Pac doesn’t want the fight. And what’s funny, people say Pac was bigger yet Floyd was still getting paid more. And he was getting paid more before Pac paid his team

Posted December 16, 2013 7:15 pm 


Old Coot

The test crap was never legit… And if Floyd tries to use it again… We will all know the deal.

Posted December 16, 2013 7:12 pm 


Old Coot

Peej: Not when you are arguably as big a star as Floyd, if not bigger at the time!

Posted December 16, 2013 7:10 pm 


PEEJ

Also all those excuses on why he didn’t want to take those drug test now are no good because he showed no ill effects when doing the same testing against Rios

Posted December 16, 2013 7:10 pm 


PEEJ

So basically you are saying pride got in the way of Pac signing to fight Fliyd. Ever heard of the saying sometimes you just have to swallow your pride? That’s what Pac should of done. Instead he passed up on his biggest payday, continued to pull in smaller paydays than Floyd, went on to lose and to top it all off has tax issues which is odd because his promoter used to be a tax lawyer.

Posted December 16, 2013 7:09 pm 


Old Coot

1-2 Combo: If Floyd did that to you?… Suddenly neither money nor prestige would matter…

Posted December 16, 2013 7:06 pm 


Old Coot

1-2 Combo: Yet, simply because he’s scared to fight you, and after Floyd found out what happened to you with pre-fight bloodtests before your loss to Morales, and Floyd is now trying to use that fear, to resort to making phony claims that all your hard work and legacy is based on cheating…

Posted December 16, 2013 7:04 pm 


Old Coot

1-2 Combo: So so say you were Manny, and at the time Floyd made these unfounded accusations and demands, you are arguably as big if not a BIGGER star than Floyd, as Manny was…

Posted December 16, 2013 7:03 pm 


Old Coot

1-2 combo: It was called Manny’s pride, and being appalled and angered by Mayweather’s Cojones to accuse him of such a thing without so much as a rumor that Manny ever used. But then you know that…

Posted December 16, 2013 7:02 pm 


Thurmal Underwear

Manny Pacquiao fans are the most stubborn and bitter fans ever hahaha don’t let go, don’t ever let goooooooooooo! manny loves all of you! lol

Posted December 16, 2013 7:00 pm 


PEEJ

Well that’s all on you. I would be just like Ali. Watch me lose or watch me win as long as you pay to watch. Id much rather win main lottery than win a scratch off

Posted December 16, 2013 6:57 pm 


Thurmal Underwear

anonymous….garcia would murder broner @ 140, there’s a reason why the ghetto loser skipped the entire division.

Posted December 16, 2013 6:56 pm 


Old Coot

I personally wouldn’t care if a guy beat me in sales because they paid to see him lose… Long as they paid to see me entertain, I’d be cool with that.

Posted December 16, 2013 6:49 pm 


PEEJ

Well if that ever happens then maybe you will be right. But unfortunately Floyd is 45 and 0. All this garbage about rewinding the fight. We can say that about some of Pacs fights also

Posted December 16, 2013 6:48 pm 


PEEJ

So what. Once again apparently MORE people pay to see Floyd lose which still makes him the PPV king. And if he is such a cherry picker and the people he fights has no chance of beating him then why do they still pay to see him fight? So apparently Pac only has about 500 thousand fans.

Posted December 16, 2013 6:47 pm 


Old Coot

PEEJ: You are old in the head… I said Manny could lose thrice while Floyd could lose twice, (simultaneously) and Manny would become a much bigger PPV draw… Simply because while Manny is exciting to watch, you can barely watch Floyd because he puts you to sleep without throwing a punch.

Posted December 16, 2013 6:46 pm 


REM

Titopa I could care less about Pac going broke if he effed up his money that’s on him and its irrelevant to this debate because its not about how much money Pac has its about how much he generates. Floyd not losing that might mean something if he fought consistantly because its easy to stay undefeated with how often he fights. As far as ppvs sold I don’t know if your aware but Pac is only 300k behind Floyd in Floyds own country wow. Pretty amazing that a fighter from the other side of the world is neck and neck with “money” in his own country. Floyd has nothing on Pac.

Posted December 16, 2013 6:45 pm 


1-2 combo

old coot – Maybe u can tell me why manny refused a drug test for all of these years and then suddenly did a u turn because I hinestly do not know the answer.

Posted December 16, 2013 6:42 pm 


Old Coot

Yet again, the stars are aligned… If Floyd doesn’t fight Manny, boycott FLOYD!!!

Posted December 16, 2013 6:42 pm 


Old Coot

1-2 Combo: Only rules prevent the facts on take from becoming the record. Floyd should have gave Castillo the belt, just like Bradley should have gave Manny the belt back.

Posted December 16, 2013 6:38 pm 


1-2 combo

Old coot – In the words of mayweather “you are entitled to your opinion”

Posted December 16, 2013 6:37 pm 


Old Coot

Fact: People pay to see Manny fight. People pay to see Floyd lose avoiding a fight! Floyd loses twice, it’s all over… Manny can lose thrice and still get paid!! LOL!!

Posted December 16, 2013 6:35 pm 


Old Coot

12 combo: The record may say 45-0… But you can’t rewind that… You can however, rewind the video… And it proves the record should be 44-1.

Posted December 16, 2013 6:33 pm 


1-2 combo

Old coot – Lets deal with the facts. Mayweather is 45-0, the rest is just ur opinion. FACT, he whooped castillo second time round. FACT, mannys PPV numbers wer awful against rios. FACT, mayweather is the PPV king and has record breaking numbers to prove it. FACT, manny has refused for many years to take a drug test. These are all concrete FCATS no one can argue with. I deal with the FACTS not weak emotions

Posted December 16, 2013 6:31 pm 


PEEJ

Who cares about compubox. That tells nothing. But ok if you wanna go by that per compubox Marquez win the first 2

Posted December 16, 2013 6:31 pm 


PEEJ

Old Coot you are indeed old. You keep saying he can lose 3 and still be a better PPV draw than Floyd. Well he has only lost 2 and he sold 490 thousand PPVs so your theory is exactly that a theory and it has already been proven wrong. Floyd has always out sold Pac. Look at the numbers. Guerrero has no fan base and Floyd still sold a mill. Rios has a fan base and they couldn’t break 500 thousand buys.

Posted December 16, 2013 6:30 pm 


Old Coot

Peej: Compubox disagrees on the 3rd fight… But then JMM has cried after all 6 losses!! LOL!

Posted December 16, 2013 6:29 pm 


Old Coot

Titopa: Floyd won’t fight anyone quick enough to put him to sleep. Seriously, how do call yourself TMT, then go through all these other lessor guys, still duck the real threat and REAL MONEY, for going on like 6 years now?!! SCARED is why!!

Posted December 16, 2013 6:28 pm 


PEEJ

Old Coot Marquez was robbed by the judges in the 3rd fight so he still has 2 legitimate losses

Posted December 16, 2013 6:27 pm 


PEEJ

Your right I did post that. But please post what I said after the Paulie fight.

Posted December 16, 2013 6:26 pm 


Old Coot

Titopa: If you say so man… Just tell Floyd to get off the pot and prove you right and men wrong… But then the hypocrite who claims to be a “check casher” is already passing on the biggest check ever!! LOL!!

Posted December 16, 2013 6:25 pm 


Titopa

REM – Manny was put to sleep, can’t say that about Floyd. Manny’s PPV numbers are awful, can’t say that about Floyd. Manny’s lost, can’t say that about Floyd. Manny’s going bankrupt, can’t say that about Floyd (richest contract is sports history). Manny has a boss, can’t say that about Floyd. Manny beat up a guy who lost his previous fight, can’t say that about Floyd. Those are FACTS!!!

Posted December 16, 2013 6:25 pm 


Anonymous

SREDMOND

Broner is terrific. You can put the fighter with the best manners and comportment in the ring with Broner at 135 if you want and he is going to LOSE.. This kid is gifted and he has obviously been working hard at his craft…

Posted November 20, 2012 12:41 pm

B Red

Broner is the truth and put together a masterpiece. He can dominate up to 147

SREDMOND

Rios would be beaten to within an inch of his life by Broner, this would be a Pacquiao/Margarito type fight… Broner is WAY too fast and sharp a puncher for a free swinger like Rios it would be another beatdown..I see Rios going down like Gatti did against Floyd Mayweather this is NOT a fight that Rios EVER wants… Totally different class of boxer…

Posted November 19, 2012 7:09 pm

SREDMOND

Broner and Donaire are blazing thru fighters in a manner that makes the naysayers uncomfortable… Some guys just have it

SREDMOND

Broner is the only guy I have seen employ that style to its proper effect in the tradition of Floyd and Toney in a LONG time, his ability to slip, roll and counter with speed are unreal…

Posted November 19, 2012 8:32 am

SREDMOND

Anyone who believes that the remaining relevant fighters at 135-140 would be able to best Broner had better 1) be blind 2) be part of the fighters immediate family or entourage 3) Be his promoter… I am loathe to anoint these fighters too soon but Broner is simply a special talent

Posted November 18, 2012 4:55 pm

PEEJ

Broner is the truth and in time yall will all see.

Posted February 4, 2013 12:45 am

Posted December 16, 2013 6:24 pm 


Titopa

Old Coot – Floyd is the PPV King, his PPV numbers are through the ROOF….don’t matter why they paid to watch, they paid, and that’s the bottom line…Floyd’s done over 3 million PPV sales in 2 fights, Manny has barely come close to half of that….we all know who’s the PPV draw and who holds the WORLD record for PPV sales, Floyd Money Mayweather…EVERYONE knows (including Bob Arum) that and everyone knows Floyd deserves a 60/40 split in his favor, you can even make a case for a 70/30 split in his favor. It’s mathematical, Floyd is the UNO.

Posted December 16, 2013 6:21 pm 


Old Coot

1-2 combo: Floyd is 44-1… Castillo whooped that ass, but was robbed, I know… I was there as a Floyd fan back then, and we ALL thought he lost… You know, back when he was a real fighter, before he became an overrated joke, selling himself as a slick conman!

Posted December 16, 2013 6:21 pm 


REM

It makes me laugh when dudes try to act like Mannys in the same class with the rest of the ww/jmws trying to get a fight with Floyd. Pacs already done it all he runs circles around Floyd and the rest of the boxing world in achievements. Not to mention in the room he keeps all his belts and awards he has a special area with Floyds heart and nuts on display ha ha.

Posted December 16, 2013 6:19 pm 


Thurmal Underwear

Irishny

If Pacquiao wants Mayweather so much, why did his team immediately announce that he’d be fighting April, right after the Rios fight, knowing the Floyd is fighting in May?

^exactly.

Posted December 16, 2013 6:18 pm 


Old Coot

That comment must be from a fake B Red… Because the real B Red knows that between Manny and Floyd, Manny is the only legit PPV draw… Manny could lose 3 in a row and still be a draw because people like his style…

On the other hand, one of the main reasons Floyd doesn’t want to risk fighting Manny is because he knows that not only will his zero evaporate, but if he lost two in a row, particularly to Manny, NOBODY would care to watch his boring style ever again. So his PPV draw would evaporate too… While Manny’s would break all records!

Bottom line… People pay big to see Manny fight. They pay BIGGER to see Floyd lose. Floyd knows the real deal.

Posted December 16, 2013 6:18 pm 


Titopa

Old Coot – One day you’re going to see it’s Bob Arum’s fault…you’ll see. Ever wonder why Oscar and Floyd fired Arum? Notice that Oscar made WAY MORE money post-Top Rank? Floyd was never allowed on PPV, let alone allowed to fight Oscar while he was with Top Rank, once he left, he fought Oscar and he’s now the PPV King….meanwhile, Manny Pacquiao is going broke and is only allowed to fight Top Rank fighters, that way, Bob Arum can have his hands in both guys’ pockets. Against Floyd, Bob Arum loses leverage and he knows that.

Posted December 16, 2013 6:17 pm 


1-2 combo

A message to all floyd haters: PLEASE KEEP HATING. It drives him on. He is 45 – 0. The most successful boxer of this era and in the conversation as ATG. He earns more than any sportman. He hasnt ducked anyone. He trains the harder than any boxer. I know u haters are so desperate for him to lose that it eats u up inside, but jus take a deep breath and let it go. He will keep winning and keep breaking records and all u haters will KEEP WATCHING. O yh a quick question to all u haters, if floyd has ducked so many fighters explain how he is an 8 time world champion in five weight classes and why no one else hasnt just ducked their way to all those accolades

Posted December 16, 2013 6:15 pm 


Old Coot

Irishny: They have not chosen anyone in April… And that announcement would change in a heartbeat if Floyd only stepped up.

Posted December 16, 2013 6:11 pm 


B Red

Pac is finished, his goose is cooked on PPV level. That PPV did miserable sales. The Bradley Rematch wont break a million. Pac should be fighting on regular HBO at this point or ESPN

Posted December 16, 2013 6:10 pm 


Old Coot

Thanks B-Red… I keep learning from you.

Posted December 16, 2013 6:09 pm 


Old Coot

PEEJ: Oh EYE see… But Khan does deserve a shot over the fight the WORLD (including you) want to see? Hell, Khan LOST 2 back-to-back, legitimately!!… Whereas Manny ONLY lost one of like 12! Because he was robbed by the judges with Tim, so the Marquez KO is the only legit lost… And even Floyd Sr and Uncle Roger admitted that Marquez was losing big, up until that lucky, literally last-second KO shot!! So gimme a break!.. Nice try at saving Floyd’s hiney… Just a bad excuse.

Posted December 16, 2013 6:07 pm 


B Red

Old Coot is Boxing Don

Posted December 16, 2013 6:02 pm 


PEEJ

Irishny, they don’t understand that. They will always say he is ducking Pac even though the facts point in another direction

Posted December 16, 2013 6:01 pm 


Old Coot

Anonymous: It exactly because of his tax issues that he WILL get a big fight to pay them… I think Arum is loyal and grateful enough to Manny to grant him that… And right now if they can’t get Floyd, a rematch with Bradley in particular would fit ALL the bills!

Posted December 16, 2013 6:01 pm 


PEEJ

You don’t get a shot at the champion losing fights. You get them by winning. You don’t get a shot by turning the fight down neither. Too many excuses, he could of took the drug test and the fight would of happened. Unfortunately all you Pac fans only hear what Arum says and what Pac says and ignore the facts. Bradley is more deserving, heck Maidana is more deserving of a fight with Floyd that what Pac is. And after Pacs last PPV numbers it is clear that Floyd would have to carry that promotion also.

Posted December 16, 2013 6:00 pm 


Irishny

If Pacquiao wants Mayweather so much, why did his team immediately announce that he’d be fighting April, right after the Rios fight, knowing the Floyd is fighting in May?

Posted December 16, 2013 6:00 pm 


PEEJ

Sorry bro, too many people look for the ref for help just like Broner was trying to do. If you hit me low, I am gonna hit you low. He got KOd get over it. And he tried to milk it for a DQ just like Broner did but instead the ref counted him out. Just like Pac hitting Marquez when he was down but I don’t here you talking about Pac sucker punching Marquez. Why is that?

Posted December 16, 2013 5:58 pm 


Old Coot

Moonshineman: Yep… I think ole Angel has figured out how to beat the tests… Because Marquez looked like a beast against Manny, but a bit more sluggish with Bradley… On the other hand, I always said Marquez is a lead footed, wait and hit counter puncher anyway… Like Guererro and Alvarez he can only shine against guys like Manny who are willing to get in his face at close range… Whereas, fleet footed counter punchers like Floyd and Bradley who can stay back and pop from a distance give Marquez fits because he can’t get to them fast enough… Bradley simply took a page from how Floyd beat Marquez. Stay away and score points. Manny was doing a lot more of that in their fourth fight too… It’s just that Manny and Freddie tried to prove a point and got carelessly greedy is all.

Posted December 16, 2013 5:57 pm 


Anonymous

Coot Manny is done stuck to fighting bums like Rios. Bradley and Marquez both are waiting to be redeemed. Manny has too many issue taxes losses and Arum he will never land a big fight…

Posted December 16, 2013 5:55 pm 


moonshineman

KO from Marquez, came after hiring a convicted drug cheater named Heredia…

Old Coot, did you notice how weak Marquez looked when he fought Bradley, compared to how he looked when he fought Pacquiao?.

Posted December 16, 2013 5:47 pm 


moonshineman

BTW old Coot, you are 1000% right.

Posted December 16, 2013 5:46 pm 


moonshineman

Old Coot. You might as well give it up this PEEJ guy is a little floyd minion and will never see the truth for what it is. little floyd is a coward by not fighting Pacquiao, and everybody but little floyd minion know it, including 50 cent.

Posted December 16, 2013 5:44 pm 


Old Coot

Only Floyd fans would laud a clown who sucker punched a kid, who was looking away with his hands down after just repeatedly trying to apologize to the clown.

Posted December 16, 2013 5:41 pm 


Old Coot

PEEJ: Tell Floyd to let it go… HE keeps bringing up the “Manny lost 2 of his last 3 fights, so he don’t deserve a shot with Wizard Floyd of OZ, nonsense.

Posted December 16, 2013 5:39 pm 


Old Coot

Red: Well, if you count a skinny, starving street kid from a PI slum, being KO’d by body two shots like 17 years ago, while Manny struggled to even make minimum weight, as “legit KOs,” then you are clueless and petty! Because if you notice Manny has only really been hurt once since Roach came along. And the only other KO from Marquez, came after hiring a convicted drug cheater named Heredia… Now when it comes to Floyd Jr., his ass was born into boxing royalty with all the nutrition and mentoring a future Olympian and world champ, could want. The two are not even close to a legit comparison..

Posted December 16, 2013 5:38 pm 


PEEJ

Maidana was the clear underdog and it felt good to get that one right. lol

Posted December 16, 2013 5:31 pm 


PEEJ

Old Coot let it go. You keep saying he was robbed against Bradley, so what, almost everybody agrees that Pac won the fight. Just like almost everybody agrees that he lost the 3rd fight against Marquez. Either way he has lost 2 fights out of the 4. All of them against boxers. Which by the way Floyd is, a boxer and counter puncher. The type of fighter Pac does not look good against.

Posted December 16, 2013 5:30 pm 


PEEJ

Oh you mean Ortiz got sucked punched back? Who cared. That is what he gets. Ref said fight, he should of started fighting instead of trying to hug and touch gloves again. And yes he would turn his back on the pay day. It was all but signed in the first round of negotiations and they declined the drug test. That is turning down the fight and refusing to sign. Refusing 40 mil is turning down the fight, saying there needs to be a stadium built is turning down the fight.

Posted December 16, 2013 5:25 pm 


SREDMOND

GoldenBoy just came off a year where they had some of the biggest events in boxing and the fact is that they are gonna starve Top Rank out… Richard Schaefer said “Arum is done” he is a businessman and looking at the latest debacle with the lack of interest in the latest Pacquiao card he likely sees no reason to raise the profile of a company that is scrambling to create its next big bout… If Cotto faces Canelo not under the TR banner (hes a free agent) then a BIG piece of business again falls in GBP’s lap… Pac Man does not have many compelling matchups within the TR stable, Bradley was a weak PPV last time and might not do better, Marquez is saying he is gonna retire with Mannys grill in the canvas as his last memory… This is ALL business at this point, Mayweather is getting back at the promoter he hates by letting him flounder looking for a bout to sell and using Mayweathers name to try and increase interestin the next Pacquiao matchup… Sucks for that fans but it is what it is

Posted December 16, 2013 5:24 pm 


REM

Don’t worry about the #s a Khan v Floyd fight might do how can it be sold to the American public. Do you show lowlights of Khan getting drugged in his last 3 fights and use the slogan “Can Floyd knock him out tune in” ha ha.

Posted December 16, 2013 5:16 pm 


red

Old Coot……. Manny was been Knocked Out THREE TIMES! and lost two decisions…. What are you on???

Posted December 16, 2013 5:15 pm 


Old Coot

If Floyd is scared… He should just say so. All this stuff about Manny- “losing 2 of 3 fights, when Floyd knows he was robbed against Bradley, and was handily winning against Marquez, to include in the 6th round that he was KO’d in with that lucky shot… Or all the utter nonsense about him “fighting lightweights”, when Floyd did the same to Marquez, and even had to pay a fine for coming in overweight, Not to mention all the crap about, “Manny can have the belt”, is just telling as Hell!! FLOYD IS SCARED that Manny will given him a Maidana like beat-down!

Posted December 16, 2013 5:12 pm 


SREDMOND

Eric, the larger point is that Klitschko came back to be HW Champion and hang on to the belts for a LONG time despite eating 3 BAD TKO’s where he showed a SERIOUS absence of GUTS and DURABILITY… That said Broner losing on points while fighting back is HARDLY a career ender when being put in context… Guys are just going over the top because Broner acts wild…

Posted December 16, 2013 5:01 pm 


Old Coot

Peej: Oops, I meant Manny’s “Rios” funds… Not “Ortiz”… I guess I was still somehow thinking about how Floyd sucker-punched but refused a re-match with poor Victor.

Posted December 16, 2013 5:00 pm 


Old Coot

Moonshineman: Thanks… I just hope you don’t like it for racist reasons… Because I didn’t mean it that way. I meant as in- scared of the Pac-man.

Posted December 16, 2013 4:56 pm 


Fight Aficionado

“Saturday nights Maidana/Broner fight sure wasn’t a shocker to most, many believed that Maidana would give Broner a dose of humility.” – Wrong. This is an obv case of reporting in hindsight. If it wasn’t shocking the odds would’ve shown it. Maidana was the clear underdog and there weren’t many betting big on Maidana.

Posted December 16, 2013 4:56 pm 


moonshineman

Chicken “MONEY” Floyd!!

Thanks, old coot, I like that a lot.

Posted December 16, 2013 4:51 pm 


Old Coot

Peej: It’s called a legal, arbitration process… They gotta nail down the facts on this tax flap… Once they do that, Manny’s Ortiz and all other interests will be released accordingly to pay what is required. And after Bradley just outclassed Marquez, a rematch with Bradley alone would be near or better than Floyd and Canelo’s numbers. MORE than enough to pay Manny’s bills and then some!

Posted December 16, 2013 4:49 pm 


mandelas my butler

El chino spanked curios goerge

Posted December 16, 2013 4:49 pm 


Old Coot

Peej: So you actually are dumb enough to think if Manny and Floyd actually agreed, Arum would pass it up?… He might be tempted (for half a second or so) because of the bad blood with Floyd… But Arum is about money just as much if not more than Chicken “MONEY” Floyd!!

Posted December 16, 2013 4:43 pm 


eric

Another thing to look at when compaired.

Klitschko lets say over 144 rounds of boxing lost maybe 8 rounds, that complete dominance.

Its very debated that broner beat paulie, I think he lost and or a draw.

Galvin resse was wipping broners azz the first 3 rounds, thats not dominance.

Your broner storie holds weight only in a lower weight class.

Posted December 16, 2013 4:42 pm 


Old Coot

I been boycotting Floyd since he jumped to WW and started ducking the likes of prime Mosley, Cotto, Clottey and Williams. If Floyd picks Khan over Manny… I say EVERYONE should boycott Floyd’s ass!

Posted December 16, 2013 4:41 pm 


PEEJ

Old Coot, Pac doesn’t choose anything. Arum does. This already known. Pac has no say in his boxing career. It is all left up to Arum.

Posted December 16, 2013 4:39 pm 


PEEJ

Old Coot if Manny just needed to rematch whom you said then how come he hasn’t gotten the money needed after the fight with Rios. They said he was gonna get around 30 mil

Posted December 16, 2013 4:39 pm 


REM

There’s no defending Broner the guy made people take personal joy in seeing him humiliated like he was. Dudes an embarrassment to boxing. I don’t think he’ll be any more than a tittlist either he has slow stiff heavy feet and in every division he can fight in there’s atleast 2 guys who will tear him a new one. Khan was far more impressive against Broners last 2 opponents that’s how far Broners stock has fallen.

Posted December 16, 2013 4:37 pm 


Old Coot

Of course Floyd will choose Khan… And that speaks volumes!

Posted December 16, 2013 4:37 pm 


eric

Sredmen, I agree with your klitschko analogy except one point.

Over the past 10 years klitschko has fought some really good boxers that may have been considered great if infact klitschkos were not in the picture, I mean people say all the time over the years theres great fights to be made in the heavys if the k bros weren’t around.

Calvin brock vs other klitschko loosers would have been fun fights, you fill in the blanks.

Now the problem with your analogy. You said klitschko rebounded after 3x ko s and came back to succeed in a WEAK DIVISON.

Is broners division he just fought in weak?

Posted December 16, 2013 4:34 pm 


PEEJ

Because Floyd is in the drivers seat and has been for a while now. When they did the first round of negotiations Floyd agreed to everything and Pac declined the 1 request of Floyd. And smelling salt is not legal in boxing.

Posted December 16, 2013 4:33 pm 


Old Coot

sweet_scientist: Besides, Floyd will never step up… As I type, the stars are perfectly aligned for “The Check Casher” to cash in on fighting Manny in May, 2014…

Posted December 16, 2013 4:31 pm 


SREDMOND

RJack, you get NO argument from me that Broner is NOT Floyd Mayweather Jr… How can a 24 year old have the career of a 37 year old that is still on top of the sport and has had over 20 World Title fights while remaining undefeated… I disagree that Broner took Maidana “lightly” he was VERY fit and absorbed some serious punishment that you can only comeback from if you have prepared… The man was fighting hard in the 11th and 12th rounds after being down in the 2nd 8th and hurt bad in the 9th this is indicative of being strong of mind and body… Being humble does NOT make you a GREAT fighter nor does it make you a BAD fighter its all about how you execute when the lights come on… Broner fell short in his 28th contest after moving up several divisions, he was SUPPOSED to get the money that was available this is boxing and the window is SHORT….I have no clue where he goes but saying “Hes more style than substance” is premature in my mind because we can say that about a TON of now important boxers after their first loss, not liking Broner does not change his destiny which will be proven in the ring… Mayweather has some of the most loyal fans and vicious enemies of any athlete yet THEY cannot control what happens in that ring and he is keenly aware of that… Hating him is not gonna make is opponents capable of defeating the GrandMaster… Broner had a HARSH wakeup call, lets see where he goes from here I saw positives that he may be able to build on and negative that may drown him…

Posted December 16, 2013 4:30 pm 


Old Coot

sweet_scientist: Manny just needs to re-match Bradley, or face Maidana, or even rising star Shawn Porter, to pay his bills and then some…

Posted December 16, 2013 4:29 pm 


eric

If a tougher fighter with a chin and punching power did what ray mercer said to do to floyd mayweather we would have the same outcome as broner. Mayweather can out box anyone but you got to beat his azz, not out box him. Floyd can get his azz beat, no doubt out that.

Posted December 16, 2013 4:19 pm 


sweet_scientist

Old Coot,

It didn’t play out, Pacquiao’s going to Las Vegas to see if he can get a fight with Mayweather to help him with his fight against the IRS!!

Posted December 16, 2013 4:19 pm 


Thurmal Underwear

old coot; you are as dumb as obama. i think manny’s done more as a congressman than obama has as president. haha.

Posted December 16, 2013 4:17 pm 


Old Coot

Trurmul Undies: Give it a rest dude… That crap played out 3 years ago… Floyd is scared to death… PERIOD!!

Posted December 16, 2013 4:03 pm 


Thurmal Underwear

Manny is scared of needles. Floyd has needle sharp precision.

Posted December 16, 2013 4:00 pm 


Old Coot

sweet_scientist: Pac haters are almost as dumb as Obama haters… FYI… The only one between Pac and Money who uses any sort of “sauce” is Floyd Zylocaine Mayweather!! No wonder he will only fight in Vegas. And you’re telling me that Ariza, after getting fired and JUST rehired would SUDDENLY NOW risk his new job by getting caught juicing someone? Gimme a break!

Posted December 16, 2013 4:00 pm 


rjack58

Broner TOOK a chapter out of Mike Tyson’s playbook and partied instead of TRAINED and ended up having his BUSTER DOUGLAS moment.

Posted December 16, 2013 4:00 pm 


Havoc

We all saw the fight. No need to kick Broner when his down. It was a good fight. Exciting not like sweet science boring style cherry picker Floyd.

Posted December 16, 2013 3:58 pm 


rjack58

SRed,

Broner needed s DOSE of HUMILITY!! He’s a very talented fighter and will go far I’m sure. But he was NEVER at Floyd Mayweather’s level!! The ONLY reason Golden Boy moved him up to 147lbs was they saw $$$ IF they could match Mayweather vs. Broner!! Broner UNDERESTIMATED Maidana, because he had too many easy fights against limited opponents, they were paying him $1M+ paydays, so everything went to his head. He was trying to TAKE the Mayweather PERSONA to a new level of infamy and it COST him.

Posted December 16, 2013 3:57 pm 


Old Coot

Takiar: I said the day after he picked Alvarez that Saul is a brawler with fast hands and power, but lead feet and Floyd would simply outmaneuver him… And I was right… Against Hatton, Floyd had WAY TOO MUCH help from Joe Cortez… Oscar got tired by round 7 and stopped jabbing and driving Floyd to the ropes… Prime Judah had more than enough to do the job, but he is infamous for discipline and stamina issues and ended up beating himself. Cotto was the only one who had the stamina and foot speed to get to Floyd… Alas he got tired late too. Floyd’s TRUE genius is looking great in the ring after picking opponents with just the right weakness or at just the right time and by making just the right demands.

Some would say the same about Pac-man… But at least Manny will get in his opponents’ faces and give them a chance… Just like he did when JMM KO’d him. Floyd will never do that.

Posted December 16, 2013 3:55 pm 


REM

Sweet science Pac has fought Heredia in 4 of his last 6 fights that’s why he hasn’t stopped anyone recently. Everybodies still getting drugged and their face smashed though.

Posted December 16, 2013 3:53 pm 


SREDMOND

These articles REALLY show how personal some of the writers take the antics of boxers and how it colors their commentary in regards to boxers in essence some are no better than the common boxing fan in regards to their preferences and feelings influencing their writing… Broner lost in a clear fashion but how does that mean he is NOT someone with a bright future in boxing? We have TONS of examples of fighters losing or even being knocked out and rebounding to GREAT things… Just like calling Broner the next Floyd Mayweather was premature, calling him the next Jeff Lacy is just as knee jerk… I keep using th example but Wladimir Klitschko was stopped 3x in his first 45 fights by underdogs and he showed 00000 guts or powers of recuperation yet he went on to resurrect his career and sits atop the HW Championship albeit a weak era…. How do we KNOW that Broner is done? Because people think he is a jerk and immature all of which may be true but have nothing to do with his talent and what he may accomplish…. Broner took some big risk moving up that quickly and facing a puncher like Maidana, I give him ALOT of credit for not getting knocked out and fighting back hard in the 11th and 12th rounds where even Chino Maidana admitted Broner hurt him…I understand some of the Gloating at Broners misfortune he set himself up for this and being Floyd Mayweather means making it look easy and certainly not losing to a Maidana type but what he is truly made of is not yet determined….

Posted December 16, 2013 3:51 pm 


sweet_scientist

Without the SECRET SAUCE and Alex Ariza Pacquiao is AVERAGE at best!! But NOW he needs Floyd, he’s going to Las Vegas to see if FLOYD can bail him out of his JAM with the IRS!! HOW IRONIC!!!

Posted December 16, 2013 3:50 pm 


whatever

Yes. Only mayrunner selects his fighters who are either: past their prime, or hyped boxers with little power in their punches.

Posted December 16, 2013 3:48 pm 


sweet_scientist

you mean “scared of needles – but has tattoos”, “against my religion – but is said to have had an affair with his WaPakman co-star”, “don’t take a blood test within 30 days – but tested 18 days out for the Hatton fight” Pacquiao?

KOing everybody, ODLH, Hatton, Cotto, caved the right side of Margarito’s SKULL in…NOW Pacquiao can hardly punch!! That dude was on something PLAIN and SIMPLE!!

Posted December 16, 2013 3:48 pm 


REM

Floyd is hands down a distant 2nd to Pac in this era. Men lie Floyd lies the #s don’t.

Posted December 16, 2013 3:47 pm 


Old Coot

@ Trip: I think although Floyd’s better defense will make Manny miss allot, Manny’s chin, work-rate, speed (hand and foot), agility, stamina, and power in BOTH hands, means Manny will do to Floyd similar to Cotto did, but more closely to what Maidana did to Broner… Floyd fears that too… TRUST ME!! Thus all the ducking tactics!

Posted December 16, 2013 3:44 pm 


Rich

Manny ‘lost’ to Tim Bradley, but that’s a dubious loss. In reality, Pacman won that fight.

Posted December 16, 2013 3:41 pm 


Tricky Ricky II

Mayweather doesn’t fight the best opponents in their prime at their best weight.

Posted December 16, 2013 3:37 pm 


Thurmal Underwear

Floyd is hands down the best fighter of his era. Manny can get served in 2015 if he wants to sign w/ TMT. Otherwise, fade into obscurity and bankruptcy, which is inevitable anyways.

Posted December 16, 2013 3:37 pm 


Titopa

Hec Dog – NOTHING Bob Arum says carries any weight either…if you believe him, then I have some swamp land I want to sell you. Hit me up, I’m practically giving it away.

Posted December 16, 2013 3:26 pm 


Tbones

The fact is I have no interest whatsoever to work with Bob Arum. We don’t need Bob Arum. He has nothing left, and you know, we just don’t need to deal with the guy. I have absolutely no interest in that. … Manny Pacquiao at this point for Floyd Mayweather isn’t an opponent, and I’m not going to talk about that because it’s not going to happen. I have no interest to deal or talk about Bob Arum. GOLDEN BOY

Posted December 16, 2013 3:23 pm 


deepwater123

Floyd picks his opponents and doesn’t give the fans what they want. period.

Posted December 16, 2013 3:22 pm 


Takiar

Floyd fought plenty of guys better than a prime Maidana. Jose Luis Castillo, Diego Corrales, Miguel Cotto, Ricky Hatton (who beat Maidana), Canelo Alvarez, a motivated Zab Judah… And Floyd never showed up out of shape. Floyd’s power is underrated : he doesn’t KO the guy all that often, but he makes his opponents respect his power and ability to make them pay. It’s not only his defence, but his counter-offense that wins the day.

Posted December 16, 2013 3:16 pm 


Trip

Old /////////////Coot: Who do you want to win?

Posted December 16, 2013 3:15 pm 


Old Coot

If Manny Floyd ever DO fight… We need this same referee to prevent Floyd from elbowing and pushing off too… Just as long as it’s not Joe Cortez who lets Floyd get away with everything!!

Posted December 16, 2013 3:12 pm 


Old Coot

Fine… Floyd just needs to prove he deserves these accolades… And he can do that by cutting the drama, then fight the one real threat that is his equal or superior on every level. Because I think Floyd is good fighter, but a great trickster.

Bottom line… Broner and Maidana; two slightly lessor versions of Mayweather and Pacquiao, previewed what is likely to happen if the greater two ever fight! And trust me, FLOYD FEARS exactly that scenerio!

Posted December 16, 2013 3:09 pm 


dexter

Nobody in the uk would pay 79.99 for any fight

Posted December 16, 2013 3:05 pm 


Tbones

If Manny cleaned out the division somebody needs to tell, Tim Bradley and Marquez that. Not to metion Danny Garia and Mallinagi. Broner was very over hyped without being tested Floyd as a ameture sparred with guys like Pernell Whittaker and Frankie Randall. Not to mention he beat the best like Castello and Corralez. Broner on the other hand fought cab drivers. So you cannot compare the two , In regards to Manny dude lost 2 of his last three fights. He couldnt KO Bradley Marquez or Rios. How in the world can a guy loose 2 out of the last 3 fights and be a number 1 contender? Floyd will never fight Manny because of Arum he is a guru and will try to exploit it. Manny had a lousy ppv sale against Rios. Manny has zero say so in his own career thats why he is in trouble with the IRS. So Floyd is the bigger draw so regardless if they made Manny a mandatory or not Floyd wont face him because he stands to make Arum richer its not about legacy or bragging rights its about Capitol and Manny is getting pimped by Arum. Floyd can fight a guy like Amir Kahn and sell out vegas and Make over 100 mil. Kahn is huge in the UK and they will buy the fight at 79.99 a pop he dont need Manny he never has Manny on the other hand needs him.

Posted December 16, 2013 3:01 pm 


JJ

TRexes is on the
money

Posted December 16, 2013 2:54 pm 


Trip

Crap title for excitable article 36 hours too late.

Posted December 16, 2013 2:44 pm 


Oh Yeah

If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, well then FMJ is a duck(er). If it hugs a nut and swings off sacks, then it is a nuthugging, sack swinging FMJ fan.

Posted December 16, 2013 2:41 pm 


TRexes

And there’s only one Manny Paquiao, the (smaller) man who cleaned out the division Floyd wouldn’t.

Posted December 16, 2013 2:35 pm 


Moonshineman

big moe

Rapid fire and floyd haters….Pac cant defeat Bob Arum. So until Pac stands up to Arum, koncz, and the rest of those leaches, then no one has anything to say about Floyd. Pac is desperate for cash. If Pac hadnt fire vision then he would be getting floyd like cash and not begging. Keep trying Pactards.
Posted December 16, 2013 1:13 pm

Yeah,Yeah,Yeah, whatever. little floyd hasn’t got the stones to fight Pacquiao. We all know it’s not the money. LF doesn’t dare step in the ring with Pac. Ask 50 cent.

Posted December 16, 2013 2:20 pm 


JJ

Broner is the biggest hype job of the century

Posted December 16, 2013 2:17 pm 


Boxer

Had broner just lost the fight I guarantee he wouldn’t be getting such a hard time but no broner looked like he was doing an audition for rocky 7 after maidana pushed off with his head trying to get maidana dq’d! We saw that, the ref was obviously not pentalizing broner caus broner was already down wide in the fight! He didn’t want to add to it! We saw that, and broner left storming out after the fight another poor sport tactic, we pretty much witnessed what happens when a spoiled kid does not get his way! Floyd is Floyd broner is broner so stop it al haymon and gbp

Posted December 16, 2013 2:16 pm 


KILLA

Floyd experience a similar experience when he fought Castillo. In the fight Castillo imposed his style on Mayweather same as Maidana did, however Floyd did not try to trait punches instead ran all night which got him a “W”. Bronner try to trait punches and be Macho and got a beating. Bronner is a immature black kid who has a boxing talent who is caught up in the Neo-black athletes world. They want to be a millionaire, rapper, actor, ganster, gospel singer, dancer, thug, etc….wake up bro..you are a cooperative sucker. They are making money by assassinating you talent and race. Dumb Ass!!! The joke is on YOU!!!

Posted December 16, 2013 2:13 pm 


Ken Smith

Peej you got it backwards why should team Paquiao bow down to Mayweathers needs. All excuses for May not to fight Paquiao

Posted December 16, 2013 2:13 pm 


Ken Smith

Saw the video it can just be smelling salts which trainers use at times. It is legal.

Posted December 16, 2013 2:12 pm 


black exodus

There is very damaging video evidence that Maidana cheated in his fight with Broner…it’s everywhere…look youtube and news outlets.

Posted December 16, 2013 2:09 pm 


PEEJ

Floyd has fought plenty of fighters in there prime. It is not Floyds fault that Pac kept coming up with excuses on why he couldn’t take the drug test, or why he didn’t accept 40 mil or why there needed to be a stadium built for this fight. You should ask Pac that. And also not his fault that some fighters in there prime that he called out like Mosley and Oscar didn’t want to fight him at that time also.

Posted December 16, 2013 2:07 pm 


Lou

Irish Paq also got knocked out so whats your point the point is why hasnt Mayweather fought Paquiao if he is that good of a fighter. The great fighters like Ali called out great fighters but not Floyd. This is about why Floyd ducks fighters and when he fights them there sure not in there prime.

Posted December 16, 2013 2:03 pm 


Lou

Dan D this is not about Antonio cheating. Antonio wasnt guilty at the time when Floyd bailed out of the boxing scene. This has nothing to do about Antonio cheating it has everything to do about Floyd not fighting him.

Posted December 16, 2013 2:01 pm 


irishny

Ducked Margarito?? The same Margarito that got straight up destroyed by Mosely who went on to be schooled by Floyd in his next fight?

Posted December 16, 2013 2:00 pm 


Hec Dog

Floyd Mayeather will go down in boxing history as as a tarnished champion because he avoided the legendary Manny Pacquiao. People no longer look at Floyd as this unbeaten fighter first, but rather the the guy that DUCKED Manny Pacquiao. We’ve all heard the excuses and reasoning. They don’t carry any weight coming from Floyd Mayweather. Fighters fight and they welcome the biggest challenges. Floyd is a good boxer, but a great athlete. He knows full well that Manny can match his speed, has better stamina, athleticism and his unique but brilliant unorthodox style will onlygive him problems he won’t be able to figure out. Manny is very different than Marquez, Ortiz, Cotto, Mosely, Corrales and the rest of the fighters he’s beaten. Manny Pacquiao will surprise a lot of people. Too many are underestimating him. This is the most dangerous fight for Floyd, and he knows it. he will face a man that is faster than he is. This will throw Floyd’s plans off. Trust me, Manny will beat him.

Posted December 16, 2013 1:54 pm 


Dan D

Why are some still Mayweather v Margarito? The guy is a proven cheat and has done nothing, absolutely nothing, since being found guilt of having illegal substances in his wraps. He ruined Miguel Cotto through cheating and idiots still go on like he was something special? His ‘murderous’ punching power was non existent in the Mosley fight or any subsequent fight thereafter. Floyd is 45-0 and beaten countless world champions for a reason. I used to want to see the guy beat but I’ve given up on that idea because nobody can beat him right now.

Posted December 16, 2013 1:52 pm 


Lou

Irish — Roy is right. What was the reason for Floyd retiring ? Other than to avoid Antonio. There is a pattern to Floyd avoiding fighters. He will never fight Maidana. Never.

Posted December 16, 2013 1:52 pm 


Granger

THERE IS ONLY ONE BOXER IN MODERN TIMES THAT IS SOOO HYPED BY THE MANIPULATING MEDIA, DESPITE THE FACT THAT FLOYD HAS BEEN A FRAUD FROM THE BEGINNING, RUNNING FROM HIS GREATEST THREAT (PACQUIAO) FOR MOST HIS CAREER. FLOYD”S OWN UNCLE & TRAINER ADMITTED THAT HE BELIEVED PAC WOULD DESTROY FLOYD AND MAYBE KILL HIM IN THE RING!!! OF COURSE HE BLAMED STEROIDS…. NUFF SAID!!!

Posted December 16, 2013 1:48 pm 


James C

Irish — Roy is right Mayweather did reite fast avoiding Antonio. I mean come on there is a pattern to mayweather avoiding fighters. You must admit it. Mayweather never called out Paquiao. Never called out antonio. I like to ask you Irish why did mayweather retire ???? What other reason than to avoid Antonio ????

Posted December 16, 2013 1:38 pm 


Tachyon

Pac can’t defeat the IRS.

Posted December 16, 2013 1:31 pm 


irishny

Floyd doesnt fight guys who can beat him because NO ONE can beat him

You put Alvarez and Maidana in the same ring, Maidana would get slaughtered.

Posted December 16, 2013 1:28 pm 


mr gav

A fighter can only be truly judged on how you come back from defeat! Broner did get pounded.but he survived and finished fairly strong if maidana is tired and hit you a 100 more punches then that shows how resistant and determined you are to survive so broner deserves some credit. But question is will he become a shell like Jeff lacy after calzaghe or will he focus on his skills respect his opponent and concentrate on boxing over show boating. The balls in his court this one but he has it within in him to at least bounce back and become respected( for his talent if not personality)

Posted December 16, 2013 1:23 pm 


big moe

Rapid fire and floyd haters….Pac cant defeat Bob Arum. So until Pac stands up to Arum, koncz, and the rest of those leaches, then no one has anything to say about Floyd. Pac is desperate for cash. If Pac hadnt fire vision then he would be getting floyd like cash and not begging. Keep trying Pactards.

Posted December 16, 2013 1:13 pm 


RapidFire

Floyd is a pussy he just said himself he’s gonna duck Pacquaio

Posted December 16, 2013 1:01 pm 


Moonshineman

At least Broner fought someone who could beat him. Little floyd won’t fight the best. He B Scared…………..

Posted December 16, 2013 12:57 pm 


Titopa

Roy – LOL You Floyd haters say the darndest things.

Posted December 16, 2013 12:52 pm 


Anonymous

popkins a complete joke.

Posted December 16, 2013 12:51 pm 


Kin

Irishny who has Floyd fought that is as powerful as Maidana ? DLH was old, hatton was small as was JMM. Cotto was ring worn, Mosely was old and one again Floyd waited for him to get old. Floyd picks his fighters carefully.

Posted December 16, 2013 12:50 pm 


John Southwest

Bernard Hopkins will be remembered as a dirty fighter who couldn’t beat the elite likes of the great Roy Jones and I’ll never let a white boy beat me Calzaghe. Bernard will be remembered for fighting lower weight division fighters. As he wants Floyd Mayweather ( another small fighter) and once again avoiding the two top fighters in his division. You know who those 2 are. Someone who is fighting at an advance age that is great but doesn’t make him a great fighter.

Posted December 16, 2013 12:45 pm 


irishny

Not only has Floyd fought guys as good as Maidana, hes fought BETTER than Miadana.
Are you telling me that if you put Maidana in the ring with Alvarez, Maidana would win???
How about Cotto?
De Lay Hoya?
Id take prime Hatton over him too.

Could name a few others too.

Posted December 16, 2013 12:40 pm 


Swedish Boxing Fan

Bernard “The Executioner” Hopkins will in the end be more rememberd for his great boxing achivments and long time career in the history of boxing then what Floyd Mayweather Jr will.
Becouse seriusly now, Floyd Mayweather Jr is more known for his entertainment and filling the news with all BUT boxing while Hopkins have fought a lot harder for his career achivments PLUS he fought all the top opponents in there prime, NOT like Mayweather Jr have done all the way.

Bernard Hopkins was record time undisputed and unified middleweight champion of the world for 11 years with record 20 times of world title defences, cleaned out the entire division.
Hopkins is both the oldest (48years old) and 2nd oldest (46 years old) at same time oldest recognised world champion in boxing history as well the oldest recognised world champion to defend a world title in the ring (48+).
And dont forget that Hopkins have 3-times conqerd a world light heavyweight title and all at age 40+ (40, 46 and 48), that is another achivment no other boxer have achived in there entire career.

Floyd Mayweather jr is undefeated? – looks nice on the paper BUT it is not much worth in the end with.out any rememberble fights to talk about. Even if Mayweather is a highly skilled boxer and a dominant one as well, he lacks a true champions heart and is the all time greatest “cherry picker” in modern boxing history. If Floyd can’t for sure defeat an opponent at the time, that boxer have to eaither wait long enough or to fight on long enough to be exposed or have already fallen enough so the prime question is out of the picture in any way possible – THEN he will mabey fight them. Also I have never seen a greedier boxer then him, so greedy that he makes people angry and disscusted. A real athlete is first an athlete then a businesman BUT Floyd belives the money are first and making great fights is second priority, well that dont help achive a legacy in the end and he have never been in his fans favour for making interesting fights.

I respect those who likes Floyd Mayweather Jr becouse I can understand them when he is a tallented boxer who wins and that I would like to love him BUT that will never happen. With his lack of heart and an image that is just dissgusting in my taste for an recognised top boxer and athlete. He belives he is boxing in one person and cries when he don’t get what he wan’ts THAT is just bad taste of an image in my humble oppinion.

There is a big reason why all-time great athletes like Michael Jordan, Oscar De La Hoya, Wayne Gretzky etc are so rememberd. Mayweather Jr want’s that what they have BUT he will never ever get it.

Posted December 16, 2013 12:26 pm 


Roy

Article title is misleading. Yes there is only one Floyd Jr but Floyd never fought anyone like a prime Maidana. Before Margarito got caught cheating he was going thru the division. Floyd knew the end point and instead of fighting Margarito he vanished (retired). Then Paquiao’s turn in 2010. Every excuse in the book Floyd made not to fight Paquiao. If Floyd fought a Maidana or any good fighter in there prime what you think he would do in the ring might not happen just like how Broner was so postive he would win last Saturday. At least Broner stepped up and fought a good fighter in there prime can’t say that for Floyd.

Posted December 16, 2013 12:22 pm 



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