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WarZ

Mayweather is exceptional boxer but he had never fought somebody like Manny. Manny punches in different angles with speed and power. Not only one punch but many. That Floyd jab will diminish with Manny’s right hand. As Bradley said, Manny tires you with his feints. I will agree to Fredie Roach’s, a unanimous decision for Manny.

Posted December 22, 2013 8:35 pm 


Hec Dog

The Mayweathers sure helped improve Hatton and Oscar. Both lost. They have no one to prove their worth as boxing trainers. Broner would be just another pawn for them.

Back to the Floyd Mayweather/Manny Pacquiao issue. Look, regardless of what the reasons Floyd has used not to fight Manny Pacquiao, which are Many and Bob Arum’s dislike for Floyd and Oscar, the fall out of all this will hurt Floyd much, much worse. The boxing public already has the perception that Floyd is afraid to fight Manny (IMHO, this is true). Manny is the Predator chasing the Prey, which is Floyd. He is losing more credibility every time he opens his mouth to the media. He puts out these ridiculous videos in an attempt to justify why he won’t fight Manny Pacquiao. He actually believes that the public will accept his “My PPV numbers are better” so he doesn’t deserve a fight with me, then he is supposedly going to fight Amir Khan? We’re not talking about the past, w’re talking about today. If Floyd truly believes he can beat Manny, just make the fight. It’s not about money, it’s about Floyd being humble and fighting a man that he says isn’t even in his league. Forget Arum. Do a 50/50 split and give the public what they want. Put the oversize ego down and prove to the world that you can beat Manny Pacquiao. Trust me, there’s more than enough money to go around. Manny, as I said is doing all the chasing. He agrees to everything in his recent interview, but Floyd is still out there trying to create more obstacles. Even if Floyd brings in more PPV, who cares. Manny would still be the number 2 highest PPV generator in boxing. Floyd Mayweather cannot and will not distance himself from Manny Pacquiao until he finds the courage and confidence to fight him. It’s not Manny Pacquiao’s reputation and legacy on the line, it’s Floyd’s. These irrational excuses like “manny is 1-2 in his last 3 fights” is a laughable excuse for Floyd to use for not wanting to fight Manny. To sum this all up in a few words, Floyd Mayweather desperately needs Manny Pacquiao to legitimize his own legacy in boxing. Manny’s is already cemented. Manny’s the best.

Posted December 19, 2013 6:49 pm 


THE CHAMP

You’re on point Hec Dog, Manny is the top dog

Posted December 19, 2013 6:15 pm 


Kid Blast

I think using a title like this is not only deceptive, but it’s a cheap way of getting a lot of posts. I’d rather read 10 posts as long as the title was truthful.

Posted December 19, 2013 5:02 pm 


deepwater1234

floyd is just not exciting

Posted December 19, 2013 2:03 pm 


malachi

i agree with lion heart

Posted December 19, 2013 12:45 pm 


malachi

i believe hes just saying pacs not his equal and shouldnt be warranted that title,especially talking about getting the same purse..js

Posted December 19, 2013 12:44 pm 


yoman

it is pure and simple FMJ is ducking Pacman as he realize that Pacman can eventually beat him,just like his bro Broner with same style as him got beaten by Maidana,and that same tactic Manny will use against the ducking FMJ he will go down iI am telling you

Posted December 19, 2013 6:34 am 


MJames

How can glass jaw Khan be on Floyd’s level but Floyd says Pac Man isn’t? That does not make sense. Khan is a joke, Pac Man is for real. Yet Khan is getting a shot at Floyd. This is crazy man.

Posted December 19, 2013 5:18 am 


Hec Dog

Teflon my friend, Manny is ranked #1, but Floyd would rather dump his belt? Where is his integrity? He’s looking more foolish every time he finds a way out of this fight. Regardless what his personal feelings are towards Arum, he has an obligation to the public to fight Manny Pacquiao. Yes, this is a business, and the fans are the ones that pay Floyd those million dollar paydays. Do you think the public believes Amir Khan is more deserving of a fight than Manny Pacquiao? No, no one believes that. At some point in a champion’s career, he must forget about the money (Floyd doesn’t need it) and do what is the right thing to do, which is to fight Manny Pacquiao and stop treating boxing fans, not just Manny Pacquiao fans, but all boxing fans like puppets. Just look around and see what the majority of boxing fans are saying about Floyd Mayweather. He is losing respect as a boxer and as a person. This is the fight business, fight your challengers and shut everyone up or retire and leave the fighting to the real fighters. Floyd is wasting his time trying to justify why he won’t fight Manny Pacquiao. Fans don’t care anymore. He’s all over the sports channels and they all say the same thing, Floyd is scared. Instead he fights guys like Amir Khan? Floyd is tarnishing the worth of a boxing champion. Those fighters that paved the way for him must be turning in their graves. Yes he owns all boxing fans this fight, no question about it. I as well as many more boxing fans have more respect for his uncle Roger that was a very good champion and avoided no one. He was a fighter. Floyd Mayweather is only consumed with his personal power, ego, materials and his money. He has deluded the description of what a champion should be. He has more flaws in his character than most. He tries to paint a picture of innocence, but the public isn’t buying it. The bottom line is simply that Floyd has been dominated by the fear of fighting Manny Pacquiao. Fear has a way of paralyzing the mind, body and soul. Floyd has kept his eye on Manny Pacquiao ever since he came on the scene. He’s always been scared of facing this monster of a fighter. He witnessed the destruction and massacre of Manny’s opponents, yes the same guys that Floyd beat much less impressively. Manny was hurting his opponents badly. Some beaten grotesquely, others remaining unconscious. Floyd must have had nightmares and panic attacks at the mere thoughts of having to face this fierce fighting machine. Floyd twists and turns his words as if he were on a roller coaster. His contradictions are constant. Rumor has it that Floyd Mayweather was crying and celebrating once in jail because he had found another way out of this fight. I feel sorry for him in a way. Fear has dominated Floyd. Deep down he’s an insecure little boy afraid to lose. He is a child in a man’s body, always playing it safe and surrounded by his family. He seems to buy his friends, girlfriends and associates. He needs to be praised and admired. He buys everyone materials and gives them money so they can praise him. Manny Pacquiao on the other hand is a man that handles his life like a man. He accepts his defeats and downfalls and blames no one. Manny is loved, adored, admired and respected by everyone all over the world. He has true character and loyalty almost to a fault. He forgives and forgets. Manny Pacquiao will be remembered as one of the greatest or the greatest fighter of all time, but what’s more important is that people will remember him as a great human being. A man first followed by a great champion second. No one will ever accuse Manny Pacquiao of avoiding anyone or anything. Manny is the best.

Posted December 19, 2013 3:58 am 


auzbox

he will fight khan and what a joke he should be embarrassed to walk around with the TBE hat on and pass it over to manny

Posted December 19, 2013 3:20 am 


TARK

May-Pac WILL HAPPEN!!! … They’re just waiting for the perfect time…

Pacquiao could fight Maidana… Pacquiao could fight Porter… Pacquiao could fight Thurman… Pacquiao could fight Danny Garcia…

The question is, “Who is Floyd going to fight if he doesn’t fight Manny or Lara??? You know he’s NOT going to fight Lara.. and I don’t see Floyd fighting Maidana… Porter… Thurman…or Garcia … Floyd is going to have to fight a good young fighter next. And a guy who won’t be weight drained … It’s about time.

Unless he fights Khan.

Posted December 19, 2013 2:11 am 


Just a boxing fan

Stop all the BS and Fight!

Posted December 19, 2013 1:43 am 


Lionheart

Manny is using steriod, Floyd is just a chicken sh.t. Floyd is scared of lossing the 0 in his record, Manny has million exuses. Bla, bla, bla, bla, bla. So freakin tired of this sh.t. So much

Posted December 19, 2013 12:34 am 


Hidalgo

“Why would Pac expose himself to the nightmare that is Floyd. Why would he want to take another L like he did from Morales, Marquez and Bradley?”

I say make the fight and see what happens. What’s Pac got to lose? What’s Floyd got to lose?

Posted December 18, 2013 11:37 pm 


auzbox

finally “voice of boxing got it right” peej come on if your a boxing fan you know Bradley didn’t win and as for morales he was ko’d the next twofights with pac so come on man

Posted December 18, 2013 11:11 pm 


SREDMOND

Adrian, is like the SMALL child banging the floor and wailing because he wants some IceCream.. FACT is that Mayweather vs Pacquiao is NOT gonna happen because of business reasons that are WAYYYY over the heads of simpletons who say “just meet in the schoolyard and duke it out”….The obstacles are well known to the dullards but they cannot absorb this reality and assign weak motivations like “This guy is scared of the other” Neither Manny nor Floyd are afraid of eachother as pugilists despite their Greatness BOTH are still men and know that TRUE boogeymen don’t exist almost everyone loses…(Pacquiao could write a college paper on that fact) These companies are like two Software Giants competing in the same market that could possibly combine and build a GREAT product but each one is unwilling to anything that could benefit the other even to the exclusion of personal gain…. Top Rank and Manny are kinda on the ropes, they are running out of options whereas Mayweather is ON top and this fight would do MUCH more for Pacquiao than Mayweather… Mayweather can already earn 40 million per fight and he has done it SEVERAL times now, Manny simply cannot he earned 18 mill on a PPV that bombed.. Floyd has matchups at GBP and MUCH hotter undercard fights than Top Rank can field at this point… (That Macau Card was WORSE than the Broner undercard by plenty) no one cares about Zou Schming in the US and they are NOT gonna anytime soon… Floyd could fight Maidana based on “A little Brother Revenge Angle” and generate MORE press and more MONEY than anything Pacquiao can muster with the Top Rank stable… The Marquez fights are OLD he might clip a mill or just under but that’s it we have seen the movie, and we get it… Bradley is a sub 1mill PPV waiting to happen they did 700k last time and there is nothing going on to spur greater sales especially with Pacs lower profile… Schaefer has said that “Arums done” and he wants to SQUEEZE not enhance his competitors bottomline… So yes we will be deprived of the most discussed bout in boxing history but it will not be “Fear” it will be the HARD realities of business… Time to Move on and the truth is that Manny simply is not seen as a 50/50 danger to Floyd, no one who watches the sport thinks Rios was a major threat…

Posted December 18, 2013 12:48 pm 


PEEJ

Why would Pac expose himself to the nightmare that is Floyd. Why would he want to take another L like he did from Morales, Marquez and Bradley?

Posted December 18, 2013 10:11 am 


pinoy

As long as the boxing world finds enough opponents for Floyd to fight and make money, he has no incentive to fight Manny. Why would he expose himself to a nightmare to come true, a nightmare that has been imbedded in his psyche for so long- that Manny will beat him if they ever fight ?

Posted December 18, 2013 10:07 am 


WarZ

Mayweather is an extraordinary boxer. No one ordinary boxer can beat him. But please fight Manny. What is he afraid of?

Posted December 18, 2013 8:20 am 


Adrian

Fedor – (nice Russian name ) lol … Anyway peej alike ,your hero floyed needs to man up and fight if anyone wants to “admit ” anything if not ,sweet dreams in the la la land…lol

Posted December 18, 2013 1:19 am 


fedor

all pac fans know deep down that floyd will destroy pac if they ever face each other but they do not want to admited full stop

Posted December 18, 2013 1:12 am 


Adrian

Floyd is the best, no Manny is the best. Manny fights weight drain fighter, Floyd is cherry picker. Aren’t you all tired of the same argument over and over again? Who give a s..t who you or I think is better? This fight needs to happen to convince me and you who is better. I jut want to see one of them get whoop, that’s IT!

I like nothing more that what you said also ! And I am not saying PAC wins but I can’t agree with those who say floyed eats him and no need for the fight to happen , in order to prove who beats who they need to fight eachother period!

Posted December 18, 2013 1:07 am 


Adrian

Fedor – yeAh sure he has short reach ,short arms etc…. But then you claim mayweather is smaller then PAC when you need to argue about the weight like sredmond does . Enough said or you got more?

Posted December 18, 2013 1:01 am 


Lionheart

Too much bla, bla, bla, bla, on both sides. I want to see the fight and not anybody’s stupid opinions! I want to see someone get beat and whopp. That’s what I want to see and not read about nuthuggers on both sides.

Posted December 18, 2013 1:01 am 


Adrian

Happyboy

Adrian – Cotto was lucky if he won more than 2 rounds in that infact I only gave him 2 but one of the judges gave him 3. If that is your idea of a hard time I’d hate to have you as a judge perhaps you would’ve pulled a CJ Ross out of your ass, if you were ringside.

Posted December 17, 2013 12:15 pm

Get a life you douche !!! “You” gave him only 2 rounds so it must be gospel eh???

How many rounds you gave it to cotto when he fought PAC???? Now say he was “drained” but Canelo wasn’t against mayweather …… HahAhahahahaha

Posted December 18, 2013 12:56 am 


fedor

pac has no chance winning against flloyd even if his on roids , so imagine if hes clean hell get an ass whopping for sure , pac has short arms, short reach ,& short in height & slower than floyd
the outcome is obvious floyd will destroy pac enough said.

Posted December 18, 2013 12:55 am 


Adrian

malachi

Adian`Mayweather didn’t use his legs that whole fight with Cotto,he made that fight tough on himself,look at every other Mayweather fight and you’d notice that .Floyd was trying to win some fans and please critical fans by sitting in the pocket with Cotto and fighting ,not boxing..eazy!

Posted December 17, 2013 12:13 pm

What?????? GTFO!!!!! All the damage that was done by cotto was in the ropes not in he midle of the ring !!!!! Who are you trying to fool!!! You wNg to tell me mayweather lost rounds in purpose to win fans????? GTFO!!!! He has no choice because cotto was cutting the ring off and didn’t mind if he wAs getting hit with one mayweather feather punch getting in and then he was hurting mayweather in the ropes … He lost he fight because he gases out in the late rounds as usual and don’t tell he it was mayweather who ket him win early !!!

Posted December 18, 2013 12:52 am 


fedor

when they asked pac to take the test he came up with a million excuses , the mayweathers got him by the balls lol

Posted December 18, 2013 12:49 am 


fedor

pac with no roids has no power , hes an average fighter & pac knows that for sure thats why he avoided floyd over the years full stop

Posted December 18, 2013 12:47 am 


Lionheart

Floyd is the best, no Manny is the best. Manny fights weight drain fighter, Floyd is cherry picker. Aren’t you all tired of the same argument over and over again? Who give a s..t who you or I think is better? This fight needs to happen to convince me and you who is better. I jut want to see one of them get whoop, that’s IT!

Posted December 18, 2013 12:45 am 


lightsoutOhio

This writer blows billygoats!!

Posted December 17, 2013 8:41 pm 


Thurmal Underwear

Wow, 465 comments; I’d just like to say: 466.

Posted December 17, 2013 8:13 pm 


tbones

Manny is done and everyone needs to move on he has maybe two good fights keft in him and thats pushing it against Rios he didnt look like the wrecking ball he once was, People need to move on not just the pactards, But the writers who buy into the hype job and the sanctioning bodies of the sport as well, People talk this and that when the reality is his fights dont sell and he cannot beat a real fighter, Manny only beats guys that are not mobile guys that will stand and trade with him like brawlers and straight line fighters, A real boxer will wipe the floor with him like Floyd or Danny Garica. Bradley is a great boxer but he has no punching power and Manny couldnt even beat him or Marquez, And Rios should have been K.Oed easily Manny is a cherry picker every dude he faced Floyd had already been through with the exception of Margecheato which we all know the only reason he was winning was because he had plaster of paris in his gloves. Manny is seriously over hyped Manny is broke and has a long way to go before he can be back like he was in 09. His ppv sales showed it no one is even buying his fights, Floyd? He is no where near Floyds level if he cant beat Bradley or Marquez, Its funny how Floyd is scared of Manny but beat Marquez from pillar to post a guy that put manny to sleep didnt win one round on Mayweather, People act like Manny hasnt been Knocked out 3 times, There is no blueprint to beat Floyd ask Oscar.

Posted December 17, 2013 7:45 pm 


Anonymous

Boo Boo

Night Stalker = PEEJ for those of you who didn’t know.

Posted December 17, 2013 6:12 pm

Night Stalker

STFU anonymous Punk

Posted December 17, 2013 6:37 pm

PEEJ

Nope. Unfortunately I am 33 not 26. But apparently you are gonna be a punk.

Posted December 17, 2013 5:53 pm

PEEJ

You need to step up your boxing knowledge and STFU. The only people that say it matters if Pactoids and yall are dropping like flies. .

Posted December 17, 2013 4:43 pm

STFU & PUNK are the key words

Posted December 17, 2013 6:52 pm 


Night Stalker

STFU anonymous Punk

Posted December 17, 2013 6:37 pm 


Anonymous

Super post on Fraud Mayweather

GUILTY

-Not fighting one man who could beat you since Castillo 2 which was in 2002 (coming up on 12 years)

-Cherry-picking and choosing the path of least resistance.

-Fighting washed up/damaged/useless fighters.

-Obsessed with having an undefeated record, except that is innacurate, Mayweather lost Castillo 1.

-Ducked 8-10 threatening opponents over multiple years and weights.

-A complete coward by doing everying in your power NOT to fight Manny Pacquaio inculding a nonsense law-suit where GB

Posted December 17, 2013 6:34 pm 


Boo Boo

Oh dear! I’ll give you one last chance to show me you’re not totally inept at this.

Posted December 17, 2013 6:24 pm 


Boo Boo’s Dad

I caught my son gerbiling the other day

Posted December 17, 2013 6:22 pm 


Boo Boo

I said that thinking that it might spur you up your game, not lower it.

Posted December 17, 2013 6:22 pm 


Boo Boo

I like putting things up my butt. It feels so good :)

Posted December 17, 2013 6:19 pm 


Boo Boo

You gags would be funnier if you didn’t tell them.

Posted December 17, 2013 6:19 pm 


Boo Boo

Fake Boo Boo you have no boxing knowledge and you’ll never have spiky angry rooster emo hair like PEEJ.

Posted December 17, 2013 6:17 pm 


Boo Boo’s Dad

Im sorry guys, but my son is mentally challenged and just came home from the psycho ward. Can you guys please forgive him, he hasnt taken his medication

Posted December 17, 2013 6:17 pm 


Boo Boo

It’s all good PEEJ. I’m just messing with you kiddo. I ain’t going to jump out of a bush one night and wrap a baseball bat around the back of your skull. But I might eat you children ala Tyson.

Posted December 17, 2013 6:15 pm 


Boo Boo

Im a wanker who licks on Ballsacks

Posted December 17, 2013 6:13 pm 


Boo Boo

Night Stalker = PEEJ for those of you who didn’t know. Dopey looking angry rooster emo hair Floyd ball slurper PEEJ.

Posted December 17, 2013 6:12 pm 


Boo Boo

Why are you impersonating me? Everybody knows who I am on here. I’ve been posting on ESB since the late 18th Century. There is no racial component to my posts. You have no boxing knowledge.

Posted December 17, 2013 6:10 pm 


Night Stalker

Boo Boo, go crawl back in to the hole you came from

Posted December 17, 2013 6:09 pm 


Nights

Boo Boo

Posted December 17, 2013 6:08 pm 


Boo Boo

We’ll see about that son. You won’t be saying that when I give you a bunch of fives on the end of your snout.

Posted December 17, 2013 6:07 pm 


Old Coot

Only Floyd as REAL documented rumors of cheating… Manny never has.

Posted December 17, 2013 6:05 pm 


PEEJ

You can come on down son. You are what many people like to call a key board warrior.

Posted December 17, 2013 6:01 pm 


Boo Boo

I don’t have a life and my peepee is very small. I think I’m cool… but I’m the only one how thinks this. I have to go now my mommy calling me.

Posted December 17, 2013 5:59 pm 


Boo Boo

It doesn’t matter I know who you are and where you live now. I have saved all the info on my hard drive, including all the photos of you and your ridiculous angry rooster emo hair.

I hope you like the taste of baseball bat to the teeth surprise? It’s very popular with all our clientele.

Posted December 17, 2013 5:58 pm 


PEEJ

Pac didn’t take those random test. So he didn’t have to cover anything up.

Posted December 17, 2013 5:55 pm 


Old Coot

So actually, Manny is the one who needs to demand RBT from Floyd the cheater!

Posted December 17, 2013 5:55 pm 


Old Coot

Peej actually thinks Ariza would cover up for the guy that fired him, but not for Rios or Maidana?

Posted December 17, 2013 5:54 pm 


PEEJ

All this time it turns out you can’t read Old Coot. That or you just read what you want to read and not the whole thing. Apparently you are skipping right over where it says this is just a rumor

Posted December 17, 2013 5:54 pm 


PEEJ

Nope. Unfortunately I am 33 not 26. But apparently you are gonna be a punk. So I guess I was a good thing I didn’t give you my real name.

Posted December 17, 2013 5:53 pm 


Boo Boo

Opps my bad. You’re PJ Catena, not PJ Cantena

Posted December 17, 2013 5:52 pm 


Old Coot

All this time turns out FLOYD, not Manny is the cheater!! Puts the i in ironic huh? LOL!!

Posted December 17, 2013 5:51 pm 


Boo Boo

Thank you.

PJ Cantena

26

Austn, Texas

Likes sucking black cawks

Interests

Trying to gain acceptance and street cred from black homies by sucking on Floyd’s nuts 24/7

Hobbies

Sucking black cawks

That PJ Cantena?

Posted December 17, 2013 5:50 pm 


Old Coot

Peej: Really sucks to have to defend against rumors huh?

Posted December 17, 2013 5:49 pm 


PEEJ

I guess you are too dumb to get that Ariza has had his new boxer come up dirty and is now apart of an issue with him doing something to Madaina. Idiot

Posted December 17, 2013 5:49 pm 


Old Coot

Peej: No… Unlike Floyd, Pac had REAL cause… Marquez had recently hired a convicted PED cheat in Heredia… But you’re too dumb to get that though, huh?

Posted December 17, 2013 5:46 pm 


PEEJ

Apparently so where Pacs after accusing Marquez

Posted December 17, 2013 5:44 pm 


Old Coot

Floyd RBT demands were based on voices in his head!

Posted December 17, 2013 5:43 pm 


PEEJ

PJ Catena

Posted December 17, 2013 5:40 pm 


Boo Boo

Just tell me the name to put into Google and I’ll see if that works.

Posted December 17, 2013 5:36 pm 


Boxtradamus

IF Floyd is on PEDS then everyone else needs to hurry UP and get on PEDS TOO. Because Floyd has the most SKILLS in the World. All Boxing EXPERTS agree with ME on that.

Posted December 17, 2013 5:36 pm 


PEEJ

when i post it again it says duplicate comment

Posted December 17, 2013 5:35 pm 


PEEJ

I keep posting the link but it is not showing up

Posted December 17, 2013 5:35 pm 


Boo Boo

PEEJ what’s your Facebook page please?

Posted December 17, 2013 5:34 pm 


Boo Boo

Why are you copying my screen name? You didn’t even write it correctly.

Posted December 17, 2013 5:33 pm 


PEEJ

Once again Old Coot as it says in the article it is a rumor.

Posted December 17, 2013 5:31 pm 


BOO BOO

At the end of the day, Floyd is afraid of Manny..LOL

Posted December 17, 2013 5:30 pm 


Old Coot

As Hec Dog advised, all boxing fans REALLY need to read the article called The PED Mess, by Steven Hauser, on maxboxing.com… Turns out FLOYD may be the REAL cheater.

Posted December 17, 2013 5:28 pm 


Boo Boo

PEEJ?

Posted December 17, 2013 5:23 pm 


Old Coot

Turns out Floyd needs the testing… NOT MANNY!! LOL!!

Posted December 17, 2013 5:22 pm 


BUSTAJAY

Who wrote this crap of an ARTICAL? Can the guy blow any faster on PAC and not interject all this hate on Floyd….

GARBAGE

Posted December 17, 2013 5:21 pm 


Boo Boo

PEEJ what’s you Facebook page please? You said we could check it out the other day to prove that you weren’t lying about your identity.

Posted December 17, 2013 5:17 pm 


Old Coot

Not upset. Just pointing out that Floyd is a hypocrite to harp on Manny fighting a LW… When Rios was actually an LWW… But Marquez WAS a LW who had just fought LW 7 months earlier when he was bloated and faced that weight and PED cheater Floyd!

Posted December 17, 2013 5:16 pm 


PEEJ

Like said before, all Pac needed to do was agree to the random testing and it would of happened. But Pac and company got cold feet when they realized the fight was actually a reality. They thought Floyd would decline the 10 million for every pound over weight but he didn’t. Called Pacs bluff and Pac and company got cold feet.

Posted December 17, 2013 5:14 pm 


PEEJ

So basically you are upset that Floyd beat Marquez after a 2 year layoff and Pac can’t clearly beat Pac at all. Marqeuz wanted to fight the best and test against the best. Difference was he wasn’t coming off loses, he was coming off KO wins. And once again tell Pac to beat a boxer. He has yet to beat a boxer clearly. He can only clearly beat brawlers that walk in straight lines.

Posted December 17, 2013 5:12 pm 


Op Amp

After having the ENTIRE WORLD asking for this fight for YEARS, the Floydidiots excuse of “Pac has to earn his shot”, is THE lamest excuse of the century! LOL, Wow…… Thats some weak sh it. As a matter of fact, given that Pac was named FIGHTER OF THE DECADE, and the whole world wanting to see it, THAT argument is TRULY rediculous!

Posted December 17, 2013 5:11 pm 


tbones

Coot truth is your mama could have beat Rios, Arum not Manny Not Floyd is the hold up he talks all this crap and people like you believe it. Arum has zero interest in loosing his cash cow aka Manny. So he will keep all his fights in house with other Top skank fighters like Bradley and Marquez, You delusional if you think its fear on Floyds part. Arum will never let it happen because he knows that Floyd will kill him and his hopes of continue to get paid. Manny cannot afford another bad loss. The public is already not buying his fights. Arum hand cuffed Floyd the same way when he was signed to Top skank because he wanted to fight Oscar and Arum wasnt having it because Oscar has his cash cow look at the history of Arum,

Posted December 17, 2013 5:11 pm 


Old Coot

When Rios jumped one class to fight Manny, he hadn’t fought at LW since May 2012, that’s a year and a half ago, When Floyd forced Marquez to jump TWO classes to WW in 2009, he had just fought at LW, less than 7 months earlier… So you and Floyd are FOS!!

Posted December 17, 2013 5:09 pm 


Old Coot

Oh yeah… And against Pac-man, Rios had moved up from LWW, not LW… However when Marquez faced Floyd he DID have to come up from LW to WW! So Floyd is FOS berating Pac-man for something only FLOYD himself actually did! LOL!!

Posted December 17, 2013 5:03 pm 


REM

Ohio I don’t know if your aware of it but Martinez has been campaigning for a a Floyd fight for years and offered to boil down to 150. I agree he’s a tougher fight than Pac he’s an A level southpaw who’s so skilled that even though he’s a natural jmw he was good enough to win the lineal mw tittle. That’s why Floyd has ignored him all these years.

Posted December 17, 2013 5:01 pm 


lightsoutOhio

old coot-”I can reference literally hundreds of articles calling for the fight since Manny beatdown Rios!”

…Then that night they already set a date for Manny against Bradley or another top stink fighter. Same s#it different year use Mayweather name than set up a in house fight…….. Bit@ches dont Talk more than Top Stink and Old Coot damn ha-ha

Posted December 17, 2013 5:00 pm 


Old Coot

PeeJ: You just described what Floyd did with Marquez, when he only had to wait 3 days to fight Manny! LOL!!

Posted December 17, 2013 4:58 pm 


PEEJ

Yes beating Rios definitely puts you inline for a shot at Floyd. Beating someone coming off a loss, never fought at 147 and before that coming off a loss to Bradley and a KO to Marquez. Like I said it won’t do the numbers you think it will do. It will do less than 2 mil. Yes it will still put a lot of money in Floyds pocket but people like you will come back on here and come up with all sorts of excuses on why he lost to Floyd. And if he accepts the random testing and a major cut in the piece of the pie then he may be able to get the fight after he beats Bradley, and that is a big if. So in the mean time you should probably STFU

Posted December 17, 2013 4:54 pm 


murderman

Old coot – ok girlfriend! Ill leave you alone til sept. Peace out!

Posted December 17, 2013 4:50 pm 


Old Coot

Peej: All except you simply saying it doesn’t matter, is all in YOUR and Floyd’s half hollow heads… I can reference literally hundreds of articles calling for the fight since Manny beatdown Rios! So keep dreaming, and when you wake up, as I said… STFU and tell Floyd the same and FIGHT Manny like a real fighter and not the fake he is!!

Posted December 17, 2013 4:49 pm 


PEEJ

You need to step up your boxing knowledge and STFU. The only people that say it matters if Pactoids and yall are dropping like flies. PPV #s don’t like. Floyd sells a million plus Pac struggles at the box office. Those are facts not rumors like you like to use. That is the difference. I post facts and you post rumors and theories.

Posted December 17, 2013 4:43 pm 


Old Coot

PeeJ: So lemme see? MILLIONS of people say it does matter… But because a few overprotective Floydiots LIKE YOU and Happyboy say it’s not, I should go with that? LOL!! Just STFU and tell Floyd to STFU then fight Manny and prove all his big talk.

Posted December 17, 2013 4:40 pm 


PEEJ

I know what Martinez says and what he claims. The problem is he already stated that if he where to fight Cotto, it would have to be at 160. He just wants to fight Floyd. He needs to worry about 160 and take on the real fighters there. His career is overrated. He has had top fighters in his class and he has taken the lower tier. When he was being called out by the top tier. He claimed they brought no money. None of the fighters brought any money except for Murray and that was because it was in Argentina. And Murray should be champion right now.

Posted December 17, 2013 4:37 pm 


PEEJ

Does not matter about articles out there. Look at what he did in PPV numbers. The fight is not gonna break any records. Sorry.

Posted December 17, 2013 4:35 pm 


lightsoutOhio

peej- From Sergio himself

World middleweight champion Sergio Martinez has called out the winner of the September 14 fight between Floyd Mayweather and Canelo Alvarez, but will he be able to secure that fight next year
date:Jul 23 2013

why wouldnt Sergio want the fight The Best p4p king and make the most money hes earned

Posted December 17, 2013 4:27 pm 


Old Coot

PEEJ: Their fight is all every article with the names Pacquiao and Mayweather attached talks about… So how you figure?… But keep deluding yourself like thing Floyd could beat Pac-man! LOL!

Posted December 17, 2013 4:22 pm 


Old Coot

lightsoutOhio: Stop letting Floyd pay you to help him duck the the HUGEST fight of all boxing history, blackoutOhio!

Posted December 17, 2013 4:20 pm 


PEEJ

Exactly, he was there before moving up. After moving up he said he could no longer make 154. He stated he would need to cut off a limb to make 154. Proof was when he rematched Williams. Williams wanted to rematch at 154 and they said they can no longer make 154 and agreed to 157.

Posted December 17, 2013 4:19 pm 


lightsoutOhio

old coot- stop sweating my nutts Old Clown! Sergio presents a tougher challenge than your hero pacman period. Sergio done more than pacman past years. Sergio has a willing promoter to put hes fighters against the best. TOP STINK ONLY HAS MATCH UP THERE FIGHTERS AGAINST THERE OWN for many years now …damn fool

wheres the Vegas outdoor stadium at top stink and old clown??????

Posted December 17, 2013 4:18 pm 


PEEJ

Pac vs Floyd is not the hugest fight in boxing history. At one point it was and Pac declined the fight. Now it does less than 2 mil buys. Probably around 1.8 or something.

Posted December 17, 2013 4:18 pm 


Young.L

Mayweather should fight khan next! do the Miami heat not play the bobcats, cuz they never make the playoffs? Mayweather-khan would be a fun fight. boxing fans are the worse.smh

Posted December 17, 2013 4:18 pm 


lightsoutOhio

Peej- Martinez already stated he would fight Mayweather at 154 and with a fight night limit . Sergio was fighting at 154 before moving up(for palvik fight) cause to no one would fight him. Sergio is a small 160lber

Posted December 17, 2013 4:17 pm 


Old Coot

Peej Floyd made demands based on voices in his head… At least my rumors have a legit article attached!! LOL!!

Posted December 17, 2013 4:17 pm 


PEEJ

All Pac has to do is beat Bradley and he can enter in those negotiations. Then from there he will need to agree to the random testing which obviously should not be a problem since he just did it for the Rios fight. Accept what will be his cut of the purse, not have HBO apart of the fight and the fight can be made.

Posted December 17, 2013 4:17 pm 


Old Coot

lightsoutOhio: Stop helping Floyd duck the the HUGEST fight of all boxing history, blackoutOhio!

Posted December 17, 2013 4:16 pm 


PEEJ

Once again you are quoting an article that is based on rumor. Now why they don’t, because there is no proof.

Posted December 17, 2013 4:16 pm 


lightsoutOhio

old coot- stop sweating my nutts Old Clown! Sergio presents a tougher challenge than your hero pacman period. Sergio done more than pacman past years. Sergio has a willing promoter to put hes fighters against the best. TOP STINK ONLY HAS MATCH UP THERE FIGHTERS AGAINST THERE OWN for many years now …damn fool

wheres the Vegas outdoor stadium at top stink and old clown??????

Posted December 17, 2013 4:13 pm 


Old Coot

Cotto and Ortiz should sue Floyd for doping!

Posted December 17, 2013 4:12 pm 


Old Coot

PEEJ: Tell Floyd to let us see who’s right.

Posted December 17, 2013 4:11 pm 


Old Coot

Happyboy: Don’t try to pretend Floyd ain’t the ACTUAL cheater, Manny never even had a rumor of cheating… Floyd does though… At least twice!!

Posted December 17, 2013 4:10 pm 


PEEJ

I see how Old Coot is still lobbying to get Pac whooped against Floyd. lol

Posted December 17, 2013 4:10 pm 


PEEJ

Martinez is at 160, can’t make 154 so don’t see why he is even in the discussion. See that is the problem and that is how you know Floyd is great. Haters have to keep saying this guy can beat him or that guy can beat him but yet they are in weight classes 2 or 3 divisions higher than him. And now yall are saying Tyson would also beat him if they where the same size. That is how you know you are a great fighter.

Posted December 17, 2013 4:09 pm 


PEEJ

Forget Pac he has 2 legit loses recently.

Posted December 17, 2013 4:07 pm 


Happyboy

JJRich – Floyd can’t help it if Manny was not man enough to take simple prick with a needle.

Posted December 17, 2013 4:07 pm 


Old Coot

lightsoutOhio: Still lobbying to save Floyd from the onslaughter called Pacquiao I see? Pitiful!!

Posted December 17, 2013 4:06 pm 


lightsoutOhio

Rem- Mayweather vs Sergio is the best fight out there in my opinion. why Mayweather should do it – he makes all the PPV $$ plus his flat FEE(35-42mil) No need to share hes PPV % with a fighter thats 1-2 in hes last three fights..only beating a BUM B class top stink fighter Rios (who really lost to Abril) plus Bob arum still wouldnt make a penny off mayweather (as Mayweather stated this years ago)

Posted December 17, 2013 4:04 pm 


Old Coot

Yeah FLOYD… Forget Khan… He as 2 legit losses recently… Step up to the buzzsaw, FLOYD!!!

Posted December 17, 2013 4:04 pm 


JJRich

Floyd, man up and fight Manny Pacquiao, THE fighter of the 2000′s!

Posted December 17, 2013 4:02 pm 


Old Coot

REM: 99.999% Correct… There is .001% chance Floyd would fight Maravilla, OR the Pac-man!! LOL!!

Posted December 17, 2013 4:01 pm 


Old Coot

lightsoutOhio: Touche… You got me on that one! LOL!!

Posted December 17, 2013 3:59 pm 


Old Coot

spartacrust: Yeah… Like Floyd did Cotto huh? The one who was beaten apart by Manny but ran Floyd down and bloodied him?

Posted December 17, 2013 3:57 pm 


lightsoutOhio

1-2 the last three fights LOL! and pacman lights really went out in one of them. OLD CLOWN

Posted December 17, 2013 3:57 pm 


Op Amp

LOL @ SRED passing the blame on the “promotional companies”. Thats a bunch of BS, because NO ONE is telling Floyd what to do! IF Floyd wanted to fight Pacman, Shafer and ODLH would be playing step and fetch it for him to get the fight done. The ONLY powers that I can see Floyd listening to, would be some of the lofty executives at showtime, or some REAL money powers behind the “entertainment” industry that produced his HUGE contract with Showtime. BTW, props to Money May for raking in the BIG bucks! You sred, along with Vivek swing from Floyds sack worse then Chicago Boy swings from Pacs.

Posted December 17, 2013 3:56 pm 


REM

Ohio the problem with fighting Martinez is he’d embarrass Floyd all night with his hands at his waist potshoting Floyd with straight lefts. Floyd won’t fight a small southpaw like Pac why would he ever fight Martinez.

Posted December 17, 2013 3:55 pm 


Old Coot

Tyson would K-I-L-L Floyd! PERIOD!!

Posted December 17, 2013 3:54 pm 


spartacrust

Bradley beat him and Marquez knocked him out…Pac vs khan would be fun, dying to see khan get knocked out again! Floyd would pick the two of them to pieces…simple :)

Posted December 17, 2013 3:54 pm 


Old Coot

@ lightsoutOhio: The lights are TRULY out in your head… NOBODY swallows Floyd’s nonsense like his delusional fans! LOL!

Posted December 17, 2013 3:54 pm 


PEEJ

Well it sure is funny that Pac has finally done the random testing after firing Ariza. And now Ariza has had one fighter failing a drug test and is in another debacle with Madaina saying he put something in his nose to wake him up which would also be illegal.

Posted December 17, 2013 3:53 pm 


lightsoutOhio

old coot- do you drink your own pee like JMM did for the Mayweather fight ? mayweather fought a younger JMM than when pacman got KTFO vs JMM 4 ..your point? JMM got schooled by the best counter puncher Mayweather; could even really hit the guy

If and thats a big IF pacman drops Top Stink this fight would happen period. Then you would watch your hero pacman get schooled all 12 rds just like the Mayweather vs JMM fight

Posted December 17, 2013 3:52 pm 


Lousy Nanny

If Floyd was a heavyweight how would he do against a prime Mike Tyson ?

Posted December 17, 2013 3:48 pm 


Old Coot

lightsoutOhio: Funny how Floydiacs keep pretending Manny is no longer worthy… Despite knowing their fight would be HISTORICAL in every aspect!! LOL! Very telling!!

Posted December 17, 2013 3:47 pm 


Old Coot

Happyboy: Funny how Pac got KD and KO’d only AFTER JMM hired a convicted PED cheat named Angel Heredia… I don’t care if Hulk Marquez did pass the tests… That just likely means that Heredia figured out new methods of hiding them.

Posted December 17, 2013 3:45 pm 


Ya mama

Later guys…… Life calls me.LOL

Posted December 17, 2013 3:42 pm 


Ya mama

Marquez did have a obsession with manny he spend all his time watch PAC fights tapes even watch it slow motion. He knew pac punching combination by stuying for a few years.
And finally it did work LOL.

Posted December 17, 2013 3:41 pm 


Old Coot

lightsoutOhio: Are you serious making a comparison between when JMM face Floyd and when he KO’d Manny?… If so, you just proved your boxing ignorance… Dude… When Floyd ducked Manny the first time to fight Marquez, he intentionally demanded that Juan gain ten pounds to make 142 for the first time EVER!… And just like Floyd planned, that ten lbs of extra muscle slowed JMM’s legs down even more than usual then, (and to a degree, his hands too)… JUST LIKE FLOYD WANTED!!… And STILL, as we all recall, Floyd felt scared enough to cheat on the weight… TWICE!!! However by the time of Manny and Marquez 3 and 4, Juan’s reflexes had LONG ago finally adjusted to 142 lbs. LOL!!

Posted December 17, 2013 3:40 pm 


lightsoutOhio

if everyone is looking for the best fight out there to push p4p King Mayweather its SERGIO @154. mayweather gets all the PPVs $$ and just pay Sergio a flat 7-8mil..plus he could pick up another belt in a different division

Posted December 17, 2013 3:39 pm 


PEEJ

Pac at his best got him beat against Morales, struggle against Marquez and then beat against Marquez. And you can’t have it both ways, with Pac got careless or Marquez through a lucky punch. And there are no lucky punches in boxing. Marquez ment to throw the punch just like he did earlier in the fight and he ment to land the punch. There for he KOd him.

Posted December 17, 2013 3:38 pm 


Ya mama

Floyd could also fight porter he has the IBF belt. porter would be the most dangerous for Floyd he fast busy and counter punch well, pluss he has ko power. I would pick him even over GGG. As he can take a heavy weight punch from James kirtland and he did dropped him and bleed his nose in 8 rounds in sparing

Posted December 17, 2013 3:35 pm 


PEEJ

Sorry Old Coot. I don’t take peoples screen names. I use my own.

Posted December 17, 2013 3:33 pm 


Happyboy

Old Coot – like all Pactards you suffer from amnesia, Pac got nailed twice that night turds. Wtf is a lucky punch?

Posted December 17, 2013 3:31 pm 


Ya mama

A boxer holding his left hand down is a avantage to slow fighter, as they can’t see the held hand up close it below there vision as a boxer will get you angry or talk to you to get you to look up, then you can’t see the left hand till it’s in your face.
But for a fast experince fighter the left hand low is a mistake he don’t fall for getting angry and throw bombs, or stop watching the left hand when it’s going to punch,
So he will not fall for the left low hand trick. Jr jones did this also.

Posted December 17, 2013 3:29 pm 


David Joppie

Just give Pacman the belt, 1-2 in his last 3 fights and he is the #1 contender..YEAH RIGHT!

Posted December 17, 2013 3:26 pm 


lightsoutOhio

Old coot- if you want to watch toe to toe fights- watch butter bean old fights
You want to a Master of the Sport of Boxing its Mayweather: footwork, angles,counter punching. clearly Mayweather hits hard enough to stop all 45 boxers from there game plan against him

lol i know nothing about boxing ? odd since I box growing up and in the USMC

old CLOWN

Posted December 17, 2013 3:25 pm 


Happyboy

Hidalgo – Marquez ended the show on top and he who laughs last………

Posted December 17, 2013 3:24 pm 


Old Coot

Happyboy: Marquez is only slow with his foot-work… NOT his hands… His hands are nearly as fast as Manny or Floyd… Just not his legs and feet… Therein lies the rub that Floyd and Bradley exposed… Manny was exposing it too until he and Roach tried to prove a point they didn’t need to, then got too careless, which got Manny KO’d by a lucky shot!!

Posted December 17, 2013 3:21 pm 


Old Coot

The late great Manny Steward said it best… “Manny at HIS best, looks like a well tuned, well oiled boxing machine, all warmed up!” And that scares the Depends off of Floyd!!

Posted December 17, 2013 3:19 pm 


Happyboy

Real Old Coot – that slow & old boxer mugged the REAL DEAL Pac and gave him one of the hardest righthands in the history of boxing that the midget suddenly got over his phobia of needles and started cherrypicking even slower LWs with no defense and coming off losses.

Posted December 17, 2013 3:17 pm 


Old Coot

lightsoutOhio: Again you don’t know boxing… And the one truism that on any given Saturday, Styles make fights… Manny is willing to take 3 to give one, and so is Marquez… So Manny comes toward Marquez’ wheelhouse, because he likes to fight and make it a show for the fans, consequences be damned, thus he always give Marquez opportunities to look good… Thus the KO… THINK ABOUT IT!! Whereas, Bradley and Floyd showed that Marquez can’t get to a defense oriented opponent, even if his mamma’s life depended on it… And Floyd likes to stay pretty and just rob fans of millions, so once he uses a couple rounds to gauge how slow their feet are, he simply hops on his unicycle to run around the ring with pot-shot counters, rd 12, UD!!!… But… TRUST ME, Floyd knows that if Cotto could chase his marathon runner ass down, Pacman will chase him down and run over his ass! LOL!

Posted December 17, 2013 3:16 pm 


Ya mama

Floyd is good, also has the head movement but it’s predictable back and down after the second punching coming in, Ricky hatten shown how to reach Floyd ,lobbing over the top clubbing punches . maidana did the same. That a lobbing right coming down punch that adjusted to a boxer who drop back and down, and follow with a. Left. hook.
Also remember Ali held his left hand low, and he norton the sluggervwas told to block the left jab with the left as you step forward and hook the left. He did this all night, connecting hard all night. And broke Ali jaw. Ali first lost.
PAC is not out of this fight, as he has a natural left fast hook and he also could mix in the over the top right hand coming down punches to Floyd ducking down.
You never know as both are talented and experience and fast,

Didn’t PAC lose to Marquez and really beat Bradley, and bradley kill Marquez .you never know. Pluss I want to see this fight.

Posted December 17, 2013 3:16 pm 


Fight Aficionado

“FA, even if that’s true, we wont hear anything about it, until after May 3rd, more than likely anyways….” – Agreed. I think some of these reporters jump the gun simply so they can say they were first if Pac-Floyd does end up happening. Chances are 0 that Floyd’s next opponent is Pac anyhow so what happens in the fall is up in the air.

Posted December 17, 2013 3:15 pm 


lightsoutOhio

old coot- Mayweather was only 2lbs over! vs JMM…..also JMM weight the same vs Mayweather & pacman 4 @ 142

Facts please you old CLOWN

Posted December 17, 2013 3:14 pm 


urone2

Old Coot

lightsoutOhio: Marquez is a MUCH better counter puncher than Floyd who throws like 40 punches per round… Juan just had lead feet and couldnt get to Floyd… Which is why Floyd picked Marquez, Gatti, Guerrero and Alvarez to start with… Good fighter with hand-speed but lead feet. I guarantee here and now that if Floyd ever hat the guts to stand toe-to-toe with Marquez or Manny… Either would destroy his ass!! But Floyd Mayrunner won’t do that… And he won’t fight Manny because unlike Marquez… Floyd don’t hid hard enough to get Manny’s respect, but also unlike Marquez, Manny can run Floyd’s boring ass down like Cotto, but beat his ass twice as bad!!

This is a ridiculous comment, Floyds hand wont hold up to that type of fight, that’s why we all know he does not go for the KO. When Mayweather beats Pacquiao, Pacquiao will leave happy with having got the big payday. Manny has so many bad habits that counter punchers can capitalize on, why do you think Marquez had such success. Mayweather being faster and more mobile will beat Pacquiao with no problem and BobArum will cry elephant tears

Posted December 17, 2013 3:12 pm 


Hidalgo

“Pacquiao is NOT as strong as Cotto at 154 NOR can he hit as hard at that weight…”

Nor does he need to be in a fight with Mayweather. Pacquiao hits hard enough.

Posted December 17, 2013 3:11 pm 


Old Coot

lightsoutOhio: As you may recall… Or not, Floyd needed to wait just 3 days to sign with Manny, BEFORE he hached the PED scheme… But he chose LW lead foot Marquez, forced him to slow down even more by gaining ten pounds of muscle mass, which Floyd knew he’d never have time for his reflexes to adjust to, then FLOYD paid a fine for coming in overweight against a bloated lead-footed LW… Then he has the gall to check Pac-man for fighting Rios? It’s pathetic how Floyd got you clowns REALLY fooled that he is some sorta ATG! When the truth is he’s an ATG conman!

Posted December 17, 2013 3:07 pm 


Mike J

Mayweather left Top Rank when…2003-2004??? Its no coincidence that he hasnt fought a Bob Arum fighter since then. DLH had been left Arum by the time they fought. Cotto was only 5 months removed from his contract when that fight happened. And unfortunately, as good as he is, Pacman is no exception. As long as Pacman is signed to Top Rank, this fight will never happen. As long as Arum remains desperate to get one last big paycheck out of his cash cow, this fight will never happen. Mayweather has 4 fights left on his Showtime contract and nothing else to prove—from 147 to 154, there are plenty of quality names and fighters he can face and close the books on his career in 2015. I would LOVE to see this fight happen, but also as a true fan of the sport, I know that boxing does not revolve around Mayweather and Pacman.

Posted December 17, 2013 3:07 pm 


Old Coot

Being a clown can’t change that prima-donna drama queen, Floyd the crybaby pisses his huggies everytime the name Pacman is uttered near him. Hell, probably banned TMT from saying the name PACQUIAO!

Posted December 17, 2013 3:03 pm 


lightsoutOhio

Old Coot- wow! so you think JMM would beat Mayweather even though he got schooled all 12 rds already. Cotto got schooled by Mayweather the first 7-8 rounds before Mayweather went toe to toe against Cotto (before the fight Mayweather stated he would do this.) changing his style only to be fight friendly.
your a fool old coot

Posted December 17, 2013 3:02 pm 


Old Coot

Murderman: You have my permission to think what you want. LOL!!

Posted December 17, 2013 3:00 pm 


murderman

Old coot – just as i thought pussywad! Lol. Dude u a clown!

Posted December 17, 2013 2:59 pm 


Old Coot

Nope… 44-1… The record may lie… But the video don’t!

Posted December 17, 2013 2:58 pm 


Old Coot

Fake Old Coot: Whomever you are… Probably PEEJ! LOL!! You think Floyd toyed with Marquez because you don’t have a clue about boxing and Floyd’s congame of picking slow-footed fighters to run and potshot for boring UD, with a bare minimum of punches to protect his Zylocaine infused meat hooks… The closest thing to a real threat that Floyd faced was Cotto, who Floyd got stupid and underestimated, nearly to his detriment… But you see what he did right after, chose lead foot Guerrero! Bottom line, Floyd know Pac is the REAL DEAL, and Broner VS Maidana showed a sort of preview of what Manny would do to Floyd… Only not quite as bad because Floyd is a little better than Broner.

Posted December 17, 2013 2:57 pm 


PEEJ

No need to listen to Old Coot. As he has already stated he has lost money on Pac. Go ahead and keep betting on Floyd, he is 45 and 0.

Posted December 17, 2013 2:55 pm 


PEEJ

Confused how Floyd is the one ducking Pac when Pac and company came up with so many excuses to not sign the contract. Once again, we are still waiting for that stadium to be built. No need to enter into negotiations until that has been done.

Posted December 17, 2013 2:55 pm 


Old Coot

murderman: Whatever son… Don’t lose your Crack money betting on Floyd now.

As if Floyd will ever man up to take the PED tests he failed, and fight Pac anyhow? THAT is a REACH!!! LOL!

Posted December 17, 2013 2:51 pm 


lightsoutOhio

Old Coot is a clown!

Posted December 17, 2013 2:51 pm 


Old Coot

Old Coot- are you the poster board boy for Jerry’s kids? Mayweather toyed with JMM all 12 RDS. Pacman can’t even beat JMM cleanly …last fight he KTFO pacman
Mayweather is the best counter puncher.

Posted December 17, 2013 2:49 pm 


Old Coot

Thurmal Underwear: Reaching… Floyd is the one reaching for every new excuse to duck behind!

Posted December 17, 2013 2:48 pm 


Thurmal Underwear

Old Coot….what a fitting name, dang, you are just throwing all kinds of nonsense around. Cut it out already. Reachingggggggggg.

Posted December 17, 2013 2:46 pm 


murderman

Old coot – than get your money up and holla at me in sept playboy! And when manny loses dont hide like a pussywad! Run that money in! Lol

Posted December 17, 2013 2:44 pm 


Old Coot

lightsoutOhio: Marquez is a MUCH better counter puncher than Floyd who throws like 40 punches per round… Juan just had lead feet and couldnt get to Floyd… Which is why Floyd picked Marquez, Gatti, Guerrero and Alvarez to start with… Good fighter with hand-speed but lead feet. I guarantee here and now that if Floyd ever hat the guts to stand toe-to-toe with Marquez or Manny… Either would destroy his ass!! But Floyd Mayrunner won’t do that… And he won’t fight Manny because unlike Marquez… Floyd don’t hid hard enough to get Manny’s respect, but also unlike Marquez, Manny can run Floyd’s boring ass down like Cotto, but beat his ass twice as bad!!

Posted December 17, 2013 2:43 pm 


Old Coot

Deep down I know Mayweather would beat pacman. My boyfriend beats me and he wears the pants in our relationship. Yes Mayweather is the greatness of all time.

Posted December 17, 2013 2:41 pm 


lightsoutOhio

“And with a perfect straight right hand, Juan Manuel Marquez scored a spectacular and sickening knockout of Manny Pacquiao .”

Pacman not on the P4P king Mayweather level period
Best counter puncher in the game

Posted December 17, 2013 2:35 pm 


Tomato Can

FA, even if that’s true, we wont hear anything about it, until after May 3rd, more than likely anyways….

Posted December 17, 2013 2:34 pm 


Old Coot

murderman: I ALWAYS bet on Manny… And I bet I bet, for more than you can handle. Although I did lose a few Gs on the Bradley and Marquez fights. I just wish I had used that one stand-up Irish site who refunded bets after the Bradley robbery… I think I will use them in the future. And I will make HUGE money if Manny ever gets the chance to whoop Floyd’s overrated ass! LOL!! Suckuh!

Posted December 17, 2013 2:31 pm 


Tomato Can

“There was a report that a deal is done for Floyd vs Pac in September. Of course until something’s announced by the parties involved it’s all irrelevant. Say whatever you want, fact is if Floyd doesn’t fight Pac that will be a big part of his legacy.” Hopefully, this is true.. But as it stands, most of us know, if Mayweather wins, it’ll be because Pacquiao is no longer at his peak, according to many, so the legacy theory probably isn’t as much as some would like it to be…

Posted December 17, 2013 2:30 pm 


HI

LOL!! You motherf*&kers are all losers. WOW! I’m out

Posted December 17, 2013 2:30 pm 


Tomato Can

Bradley, Marquez* (based on his distruction of Pac) , Pacquiao are all worthy of Mayweather fights… However we all know Arum has black balled tha from happening. So, that leaves Maidana, Garcia, Matthysse, and even Mallenaggi… Who ever gets the May day with Mayweather, congratulations on getting your biggest fight ever, and good luck…

Posted December 17, 2013 2:28 pm 


Bing

FLOYD and PAC are tied with $ 38M earnings this year so gives a F?
PAC will continue to have endless endorsements, PBF ain’t got one.

Google top paid sports athletes FORBES magazine.

Posted December 17, 2013 2:25 pm 


Fight Aficionado

There was a report that a deal is done for Floyd vs Pac in September. Of course until something’s announced by the parties involved it’s all irrelevant. Say whatever you want, fact is if Floyd doesn’t fight Pac that will be a big part of his legacy.

Posted December 17, 2013 2:24 pm 


Tomato Can

lol, it is kind of funny that a guy who sued another guy for defamation, is now going to beg him for a fight, so he can pay his bills.. LOL ouch…

Posted December 17, 2013 2:24 pm 


murderman

Old coot – put your money where your big mouth is! Just like a told hecdog let bet! When it finally goes down in sept my money is on floyd. If he loses ill mail you a check, western union, paypal, whatever. When pac loses you do the same! Deal?

Posted December 17, 2013 2:20 pm 


PEEJ

Actually there are not too many Floyd fans who want to see a Khan fight. As a matter of fact most Floyd fans say Madaina is deserving and Bradley is the most deserving. So once again your theory is wrong. And there are no lucky punches. Marquez ment to throw that punch, he surely ment to land it. And before the fight he said he was going for the KO. And Marquez was robbed in the 3rd fight. So like you say what goes around comes around.

Posted December 17, 2013 2:19 pm 


PEEJ

Not sure what you mean by what goes around comes around. Floyd is still banking 35 + million a fight. Pac is barely pulling in 490 thousand PPV buys. Whats your point? Pac wants to fight Floyd so he can get out of tax trouble. Pac isn’t even on Floyds radar because he has lost 2 out of his last 3 fights.

Posted December 17, 2013 2:17 pm 


Old Coot

It’s very telling how the same characters who pretend Pacquiao is unworthy to fight Mayweather because he lost 2 fights; when the fact is he was robbed against Bradley, and was dominating Marquez until that lucky, literally, last-second KO, are the same jokers who think Floyd should fight Khan instead? Khan? Who recently has two LEGIT losses! Given that, one can only come to one conclusion, they fear Manny would whip their hero, as much as Floyd does himself. LOL!

Posted December 17, 2013 2:16 pm 


Old Coot

Peej: Floyd didn’t even have “rumors”… Yet he still defamed Manny… And if it’s all a rumor, why did Manny drop the suit? Again… What goes around… And not a minute too soon!! LOL!

Posted December 17, 2013 2:14 pm 


HI

Excuses, blame game, he saids……It’s just sad. It’s sad that so many people are affected and start throwing hate around. I find it sad yet comical.

The bottom line is failure for Paq and FMJ to fight will only be a stain on BOTH their legacies and that’s what they’ll be remembered for the most.

Posted December 17, 2013 2:05 pm 


Old Coot

So… There is a REAL, story of Floyd paying Manny big, to drop the defamation suit, and cheating with PEDs, perhaps on several occasions, but there are NO such stories accusing Manny… Sorta puts the I in ironic huh?!! As they say- what goes around…. Well, ya’ll know the rest!

Posted December 17, 2013 2:01 pm 


Old Coot

Peej: I wanna see actual proof… Manny is ready… Tell Floyd to step up and do the same!

Posted December 17, 2013 1:53 pm 


Old Coot

Peej: When… Like 30 years ago, when he was 5?

Posted December 17, 2013 1:52 pm 


HI

this is why boxing sucks

Posted December 17, 2013 1:51 pm 


Thurmal Underwear

PEEJ

Floyd doesn’t call out anybody. He is the champ, fighters call him out.

^Truth.

Posted December 17, 2013 1:50 pm 


SREDMOND

Mayweather is the DON of boxing he does not have to leave the boxing Mecca of the planet to go fight in Texas where the judging and rules are often VERY rancid… Open Scoring, fighters like Malignaggi ROBBED, Trout scored like he did not win a round of a fight most thought was reasonably close, judges having Angulo ahead or close when Kirkland had been beating the HELL out of him ultimately stopping him…

Posted December 17, 2013 1:47 pm 


PEEJ

Old Coot funny but you being a Pactoid and you think Pac beats Floyd and there is no proof in that since it is just your opinion. Just like those of us who think Floyd would beat Pac. But the one fact that is true is that Pac has major trouble with boxers, just like he did in his loses to Marquez, Bradley and Morales.

Posted December 17, 2013 1:38 pm 


SREDMOND

HappyBoy, he will be fighting for LESS than 10 mill now and this is boxing who says there will be a later…If he faces Martinez at MW and gets KOed or badly defeated this all goes away.. Canelo is in his weight class and he is bringing a HEFTY payday its the better option… We have seen guys lose out on big money banking on “Another Day”…. Canelo booked a loss but he made over 12 mill doing it, had he passed on the chance and faced another guy then lost he may have NEVER gotten another shot or had to take FAR less money… 8 figure paydays are NOT the norm in boxing unless your name is Mayweather or Pacquiao…

Posted December 17, 2013 1:38 pm 


SREDMOND

Old Coot, you will be LONG DEAD before Arum builds anything and your lack of understanding about boxing finances is comical.. If Stadiums were then answer then the BIGGEST Gates in boxing would not have occurred in Vegas with Oscar and FMJ and FMJ and Canelo charging premium prices… A bunch of guys paying an average of $100 is inferior to guys charging TOP dollar and filling up the MGM while generating $20 mill in live gate…. Chavez SR had what over 100k bodies in Mexico for a fight and that was NOT a record breaking event from a dollar perspective….

Posted December 17, 2013 1:34 pm 


Happyboy

Cotto is at the end of his career I would propose he goes for bigger money, bigger risk against Maravilla. He can go back to JMW & do Canelo for less than $10M later.

Posted December 17, 2013 1:32 pm 


Happyboy

Hon – check the date on the article and you can wait for Arum to build that stadium.

Posted December 17, 2013 1:26 pm 


Old Coot

Screw the temp venue for Pac VS May… Just fight in Cowboys’ stadium in front of 60K!! Oh that’s right, Floyd won’t fight anywhere but The Land of Legal Zylocaine… And as it turns out PED waivers when he fails tests, of course! LOL!!

Posted December 17, 2013 1:24 pm 


SREDMOND

Cotto has some alliance with TR And he would have to 100% cut ties to face Canelo which is what it is… I have a feeling that Cotto will regret passing on a 10 million dollar guarantee to face Alvarez should he book another loss against a MW…. He is not gonna fight Quillin that’s too much risk and too little money he made that mistake with Trout it will be Martinez before that happens.

Posted December 17, 2013 1:20 pm 


Old Coot

Although Quillin is pretty damned tall with a long ass reach, for a MW! So maybe he edges Cotto in a SD.

Posted December 17, 2013 1:19 pm 


SREDMOND

SNORRREEEEEEEEEEE when are you LESS than Bright posters gonna realize that this is BIGGER than Pacquiao vs Mayweather this is about 2 promotional companies that are at WAR… Each side is NOT willing to concede anything and work with the other… FACT is that Top Rank looks to be a declining force in boxing.. Manny is not pulling in the numbers, Cottos a free agent and none of the other guys they have over there off top strike me as possible PPV seller despite skills…. Adrian Broners most recent card was FAR better than that trash that Arum tried to peddle absent Manny facing Rios in a loser vs loser crossroads bout… When you combine that with the smashing card that GBP produced with Canelo, Garcia, Matthysee and Mayweather we have a scenario where you will likely see MORE defections over to GBP and alliance with Haymon who is getting all these guys paid… He had Paulie Malignaggi do one of the BIGGEST flip flops I have ever seen… Once he got that call Paulie spread his cheeks and started billing Haymon as the greatest thing since sliced bread… Point is that GBP fighters are not gonna face TR absent Arum dying or the boxers actually defecting….I am sure that Pac Mans contract is IRON CLAD so he is gonna die boxing for Top Rank and thus no Mayweather fight… Get over it…

Posted December 17, 2013 1:17 pm 


Old Coot

Cotto against Alvarez, Martinez or Quillin, either one, would be a good fight! I think they will all be close, actually hard to say who’d win.

Posted December 17, 2013 1:17 pm 


Hon

Tachyon – I agree with Arum –

Article says – Arum and Pacquiao’s advisor, Michael Koncz, have dismissed May 5 as a date for Mayweather-Pacquiao, citing their camp’s desire to have built a 40,000-seat, temporary outdoor venue on The Strip in late May or early-June to maximize revenue.

Build the staduim and create a mega fight in this new arena.

Posted December 17, 2013 1:16 pm 


Old Coot

Adrian: You are 1000% correct!! Floydiacs and Floydiots, think Floyd wins over Pac-man by inference alone, not real proof!

Posted December 17, 2013 1:15 pm 


Boxer

It looks like cotto is going to be fighting either Martinez or kid chocolate next not Canelo!

Posted December 17, 2013 1:09 pm 


Tachyon

Kontiki well Einstein was koed by Max planck and if you put Einstein in the ring with simple Algebra problems he would get knocked out every time.

Posted December 17, 2013 1:08 pm 


B Red

Happyboy, hahahaha

Posted December 17, 2013 1:06 pm 


Anonymous

will there be any drug testing in this fantasy fight. LOL.

Posted December 17, 2013 1:06 pm 


PEEJ

Floyd doesn’t call out anybody. He is the champ, fighters call him out.

Posted December 17, 2013 1:05 pm 


Tachyon

Hon raed and learn Hon its all about the facts //ringtv.craveonline.com/blog/171173-qaa-arum-discusses-the-mayweather-pacquiao-telephone-conversation

Posted December 17, 2013 1:02 pm 


Happyboy

BRed – Chicago Guy hung himself after the Marquez KO. Hecdog is the younger bro

Posted December 17, 2013 1:00 pm 


Happyboy

Hon – yeah thats right just put your head in the sand and pretend nothing was said in the past 3-4yrs.

Posted December 17, 2013 12:57 pm 


B Red

My Top 5 P4P Pactards in no particuler order. Reni , Hec Dog, Chicago Guy, REM, Auzbox

Posted December 17, 2013 12:52 pm 


Hon

I can’t see Mayweather wanting to talk to Paquiao. ( A fighter doesn’t negiotate a deal with another fighter. ) That what promotors are there for. As if Mayweather calls Paquiao and all of a sudden Arum is right there next to Paquiao to give the phone to. Get real dude !

Posted December 17, 2013 12:49 pm 


Tachyon

Hon your data is in correct negotiations broke down during the second attempt Mayweather called Pac on the phone and tried to speak with him. Pac gave the phone to Arum.

Posted December 17, 2013 12:44 pm 


Titopa

El-Oh-El. This article was hilarious.

Posted December 17, 2013 12:41 pm 


Hon

Has Floyd ever called out Manny ? Nope never has. He doesnt want Manny.

Posted December 17, 2013 12:41 pm 


SREDMOND

Bradley should have gotten a UD against Marquez, he had JMM turning all night and was just too QUICK… After that slugfest with Provodnikov and Bradleys assertions that he had trouble speaking for 3 months I thought Marquez would be able to get to him.. I was wrong Bradley learned that being a crowd pleasing slugger with no power would shorten his career QUICKLY… That said he fought a smart fight and got the ONLY solid win over Marquez since Floyd clowned him for 12 rounds…

Posted December 17, 2013 12:40 pm 


Op Amp

Happyboy – Yes, Pac has slowed down, and Floyd has accelled. That still doesnt erace the fact that Pac has been a THORN in Floyds side for over half of his boxing career. Seems to me that Pac would be Floyds most satisfying victory, and his biggest purse to boot! But he wount fight him just becasue of Arum? BS.

Posted December 17, 2013 12:36 pm 


B Red

Bradley won the fight Clearly, He boxed smart, showed excellent ring generalship and beat Marquez to the punch.

Posted December 17, 2013 12:35 pm 


Tachyon

I did not watch the Bradley vs JMM fight was it a claer win for Bradley or was JMM robbed?

Posted December 17, 2013 12:33 pm 


B Red

When you explain something to a pactard they cant comprehend things that make sense. Pac is not the big superstar anymore since he got put into that temporary coma, ya dig

Posted December 17, 2013 12:29 pm 


B Red

Maany cant even beat Bradley in a rematch, let alone Floyd, ya dig

Posted December 17, 2013 12:26 pm 


SREDMOND

See what Adrian cannot grasp and really struggles with is that Mayweathers story ALWAYS ends with his hand raised, NEVER on the floor and losing 1 card in 17 years (incredible) considering the slew of HOF fighters and World Champs he faced…Pacquiao is NOT as strong as Cotto at 154 NOR can he hit as hard at that weight… Look at Cottos KO percentage 147 and up compared to Mannys who last knocked out another fighter when Reagan was President…AGAIN I am a huge Pac Man fan but we have to keep it real, Manny is NOT even the #3 fighter in the sport at this point which is no shame but it is what it is… The public took a leak on his summit meeting between LOSING boxers in Macau Pac vs Rios and crapped on that PPV card with 475k buys… Mayweather and Canelo brought OVER 80 victories and no defeats to the ring and Alvarez had a massive age and size advantage that Floyd smoothly negated and turned him into ANOTHER statistic as is custom with FMJ…. Little Pacquiao running around the ring is not gonna be some sort of phenomenon to FMJ who will make him eat the jab and right hands… Arum was VERY clear that he wanted Manny in the ring with someone who would stand in front of him and not bring anything cute to the ring and Rios who was just outboxed by another slugger at 140 fight the bill…Rios cannot effectively counter a Grandmother with Parkinsons, he makes Maidana look like a prime Hector Camacho HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

Posted December 17, 2013 12:23 pm 


Happyboy

Op Amp – Floyd has simply continued on what his been doing for 17yrs and stayed unbeaten against younger and stronger boxers while his getting older yet just as effective. Pac seems to have declined to no KOs, to getting ktfo by 40yr old & cherrypicking LW coming off losses.

Posted December 17, 2013 12:22 pm 


Anonymous

oh please get a life.

Posted December 17, 2013 12:17 pm 


SREDMOND

Cotto is a 3 weight Champion who fought a damn good fight at 154 where he had never lost till that point… At the end of the day we had ANOTHER Mayweather victory if the worst night he has is a UD with bloody nose we will take that as opposed to Pacquiao looking like he was gonna have to eat soup out of a straw for the rest of his life… FACT is that Mayweather can adapt whereas Pac Man has a PROVEN weakness that he has not shown he can really master (Elite Counterpunchers) and Mayweathers just the BEST…

Posted December 17, 2013 12:15 pm 


Happyboy

Adrian – Cotto was lucky if he won more than 2 rounds in that infact I only gave him 2 but one of the judges gave him 3. If that is your idea of a hard time I’d hate to have you as a judge perhaps you would’ve pulled a CJ Ross out of your ass, if you were ringside.

Posted December 17, 2013 12:15 pm 


malachi

Adian`Mayweather didn’t use his legs that whole fight with Cotto,he made that fight tough on himself,look at every other Mayweather fight and you’d notice that .Floyd was trying to win some fans and please critical fans by sitting in the pocket with Cotto and fighting ,not boxing..eazy!

Posted December 17, 2013 12:13 pm 


Happyboy

REM – no one said they were Pac,. They were employed by Top Rank. Pactards have blinkers and can’t comprehend that none of Arum’s employees were allowed to fight Floyd. So there I get your point.

Posted December 17, 2013 12:10 pm 


Tachyon

Mayweather is in the drivers seat and is the top dog. May is still pissed about the earlier 2 attempts to make the fight not working and he will make Pac crawl on hands and knees before he finally tosses Pac a bone and allows him to fight. Arum out is probably one of the conditions and Pac will take a serious Pay cut. Pac needs cash fast to pay bills remember last time May called Pac and could not get him to talk on the phone Pac gave the phone to Arum. Now Pac is flying down to visit May and beg him for the fight Pac should have told Arum long time ago make the fight or I will do it myself.

Posted December 17, 2013 12:09 pm 


Op Amp

Happyboy – That may have been true at that point in time, but plain and simple, Floyd has had to share the spotlight, of the face of boxing, with Pac for about a decade. Based on interviews I have seen, and Floyd’s past twitter rants, that has bothered him GREATLY! Only a small man sees a great building that another man has built, and hates on it. A great man, simply constructs a building that taller. Looks like Floyd has begun to grow up recently though, so good on him.

Posted December 17, 2013 12:08 pm 


PEEJ

Actually Arum is the whole reason the fight hasn’t happened. As said before Cotto got the fight with Floyd immediately after leaving Arum. Marquez, Mosley and Bradley got fights immediately when signing with Arum.

Posted December 17, 2013 12:07 pm 


SREDMOND

Hidalgo, you say that “practice makes perfect” and that Marquez fought Manny 3x and benefited from learning his opponent… The FLIPSIDE of that argument is that Manny fought JMM 3x why was HE UNABLE to adapt and learn? his last 2 fights with Marquez represented an declining level of competence against a boxer pushing 40…. Are you saying that Pac Man is DUMBER or less Adaptable than Marquez because your “practice makes perfect” theory seems to only work for JMM?????

Posted December 17, 2013 12:06 pm 


deepwaters

who cares what this sucka floyd does. boxing was great watching mm crush ghettothug . thats whats great about boxing. floyd doesnt excite. except some guys for other reasons then boxing just ask sredmond

Posted December 17, 2013 12:06 pm 


Adrian

The fact is they need to fight to find out , all the ” assuming”and comparing proves nothing !

Posted December 17, 2013 12:06 pm 


malachi

Somebody explain to me why Pac hasn’t made his own promotion team yet, he’s been in the sport with high success for a long time why depend on Bob who refuses to get him the fight he mostly desires,i just don’t get it. it makes me wonder if Pac really wants the fight..i would go and demand that my promoter got me what I wanted and Pacs not just a normal boxer who needs to depend on his promoter for good fights hes waaaay past that stage he should be running things.pacmans a superstar why does he need permission,im just baffled excuse my ranting….yuuup!

Posted December 17, 2013 12:05 pm 


Adrian

Sredmond , cotto is not a counterpuncher and he gave him a very tough fight , how come?? How come for mayweather was easy to beat Marquez who is a counterpuncher than cotto who comes forward eh ??? You know that PAC is faster than cotto , throws more punches is better conditioned usually and is a southpaw compare that not only cherry picking your argument that suites you ….

Posted December 17, 2013 12:04 pm 


B Red

The writer is more of a pactard than hec dog

Posted December 17, 2013 12:03 pm 


Happyboy

Hidalgo ” moment of carelessness” LOL, you full of it, Pac got smacked and KO’d twice that night, did you forget that. It doesn’t take much to box Rios check his fight against Abril. If Abril can do that how hard was it gonna be to look good for a rehab fight, was a cherrypick. Fans went even that interested ( 400k PPVs).

Posted December 17, 2013 12:02 pm 


SREDMOND

Hidalgo, Marquez is LONG in the tooth and he has been discussing retirement since before he KOed Pacquiao these are JUST facts… As for JMM beating all these WW fighters why not call me when he beats ONE not named Manny Pacquiao who many felt he beat that 3rd bout.. I understand you wanting to keep Marquez reputation on life support in hopes that Manny can rematch and defeat him while you throw Pac Man a parade… Truth be told is that JMM looked OLD against Bradley, he had a prior hard 6 rounds with Pac in the prior bout and he is indeed gonna be around 41 before he laces up again… The DIFFERENCE between Floyd Mayweather and Pacquiao is that Floyd would NOT be able to face Rios coming up in weight off a loss, or Marquez at 40 plus coming off a LOSS and still get a SHRED of credit… Bouts like this are acceptable for Manny because of his diminished status in the sport…. Brandon Rios would NEVER get a Mayweather shot after booking that loss to Alvarado and having NO chops at 147 the combo would be laughable… Mayweather is seen as TOO much for everyone…. You call JMM “small” for Mayweather yet you want him to fight Manny who is physically the same size (slightly taller) than Pacquiao…

Posted December 17, 2013 12:01 pm 


REM

Happyboy you gotta know that’s not me. Cotto and Mosley are not Pac so booting Arum won’t change anything. Floyd will only fight Pac if Pac cuts his left arm off.

Posted December 17, 2013 12:01 pm 


Tachyon

If Arum were out fight would have been signed 3yrs ago.

Posted December 17, 2013 11:59 am 


Happyboy

REM – If Arum were kicked out this fight would be signed before the New Year. Did you witness how quickly Mosley and Cotto fights were done?

Posted December 17, 2013 11:52 am 


Hidalgo

“What I saw in the last round is a boxer who had his confidence somewhat depleted, the Pac that used to finish backed off and touched gloves because the GHOST of that right hand ending all electrical activity in his brain muted his aggression…”

Mayweather would do no better against Rios, he’d just beat him in a different manner. Floyd would never be able to KO Pacquiao the way Marquez did. Not even now because he’d never be willing to engage or stand in the pocket like Marquez against Manny Pacquiao.

The difference between Marquez fighting Pac and Mayweather fighting Pac is that Marquez will stand with Pac. Mayweather won’t. His modus operandi is to pot shot and dance away. Oh sure, he stood in there with Miguel Cotto, but he didn’t like getting his nose bopped so he reverted to his old style after that fight–something he himself said he was going to do and his father echoed that intention.

SRedmond, you keep using Marquez’s age like it is an old worn out hammer that only you can pick up. There are few welterweights who can beat Marquez right now. He also has the benefit of having fought Pacquiao three times prior to the night he KOd him. Say anything you want but practice makes perfect. Not to mention that Pac’s moment of carelessness greatly assisted Marquez in achieving that KO. And no matter what you say or how loud or how often you rant, using any type of rehetoric you want, Mayweather resulted to cheating for his fight with Marquez just to make sure he’d have the edge he needed to beat him, the small lightweight who normally fought at two weight divisions lower than Mayweather, and 12 lbs. lighter. And don’t even try to claim that Floyd didn’t cheat in that fight. The $600,000 penalty that he paid for not making weight proves that he did.

If Manny Pacquiao were to fight Floyd next, and he was as focused and conditioned, and driven as he was for his fight against Brandon Rios, Floyd would be hard pressed to beat him. You didn’t see a tentative, “confidence depleted” Pacquiao fighting Rios. There was no “ghost” or fear of any kind that caused Pacquiao to “back off” as you claim. You saw him fight every bit as smart as Floyd Mayweather Jr. Pacquiao whupped Rios plain and simple and in impressive fashion. The only reason this doesn’t mean so much to you is that it wasn’t Mayweather who beat Rios in that manner. But if it was, you’d be skipping and dancing in the streets to display your glee over another “masterful” Mayweather performance.

Posted December 17, 2013 11:48 am 


Op Amp

fedor – If this writer was a TRUE FIGHT FAN, and NOT a FAN BOY, he would say YES! FIGHT! WHO CARES who recently lost in THIS senario! The whole F ing PLANET wants to see it! All you fan boys making excuses for floyd are just that, fan boys, or apparently fans of the business side of boxing. Im a FIGHT fan!

Posted December 17, 2013 11:48 am 


malachi

No disrespect but some of the things this writer writes sounds stupid,but just like everybody else he also sounds frustrated but I would never call any fighter scared.i believe floyd mayweather is looking at things through a business perspective but we all know he holds the cards but we also know that Bob arum isnt going to really try and sit down to actually negotiate because floyd wants most of the revenue and bob doesnt want to feel cheated..if they just sat down for the fans and worked out something to actually make this fight a reality pac/may could meet up 3 times and would get my hard earned money all three times no question and i know everybody else feels the same way…yezzzir!

Posted December 17, 2013 11:44 am 


fedor

if floyd lost against bradley & then got koed agaisnt marquez would this writer insist on pac to give floyd an opportunity or another pay day to fight him next ??? i doubt it
thats why this article is extreme bias full stop.

Posted December 17, 2013 11:40 am 


Hon

Floyd fighting Paquiao ————- IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN !!!

Posted December 17, 2013 11:38 am 


REM

so let Arum be kicked out, I don’t care

Posted December 17, 2013 11:37 am 


PEEJ

Pac may be all set to face Floyd but Arum is not all set to let that happen. Not to mention Pac has unfinished business with Bradley. Let him take care of Bradley and show he is ready for a boxer.

Posted December 17, 2013 11:36 am 


REM

Hey so simple guys, let your man fight my man and all this debate will be done, Ok. Pacuqioa is all set to face Mayweather but yours ..

Posted December 17, 2013 11:34 am 


fedor

the reason floyd respect cotto so much & stated it many times coz cotto listened to floyd & got the opportunity to fight each other withour arum involvment & cotto got the highest pay day ever against floyd

Posted December 17, 2013 11:33 am 


fenners

Rubbish article with an excessive use of quotation marks. I tried to scour his turgid ramblings for some semblance of boxing knowledge, but it was just a load of dross.

Posted December 17, 2013 11:31 am 


Xavier

Floyd v Manny, still a good fight. Come on, make it happen, fellas!

Posted December 17, 2013 11:27 am 


fedor

this writer is floyd hater its quiet obvious from his article, when floyd went out of his way & called pac regarding not to renew his contract with bob arum & be his own man like cotto did but pac never listened then pac signed another 4 more years with arum so golden boy dropped the idea of fighting pac , its all got to do with arum nothing to do with fear or avoiding each other golden boy & arum are enemies to the bone in business they cant stand him nor they will give him any opportunity to make $$$ of them full stop.

Posted December 17, 2013 11:27 am 


PEEJ

Sorry Rem but with 490 thousand PPV sells, that makes Pac the B side to any fight with Floyd.

Posted December 17, 2013 11:24 am 


Hendo

REM, you super boxing mega star did not sell the fight well, clearly he’s your mega star and many people are seeing it differently.

Posted December 17, 2013 11:23 am 


Op Amp

Happy Boy – What? I have always said that all the alphabet groups are corrupt! I just think its great to see a FIGHTER stripped for not FIGHTING! ESPECIALLY in this senario! Same goes for Pac! If the situations were reversed, then I would enjoy seeing his sorry non fighting a ss stripped too!

Posted December 17, 2013 11:18 am 


REM

Lmao Pac the global boxing icon and worlds most popular fighter is never ever considered a b side to anything pertaining to boxing. The ball is in Floyds court if he’s serious about making the fight this time because he clearly hasn’t been over the course of time this drama has been going on. Floyd needs to acknowledge and accept that Pac is a super mega ultra star in boxing and needs to negotiate accordingly if he’s serious about fighting boxings most popular fighter.

Posted December 17, 2013 11:18 am 


Hon

Sredmon I think Paq felt sorry for Rio’s in the last rounds. I mean whats the point of giving a guy brain damage. Paq is already winning. I would ease off the gas pedal. You want to beat the guy not kill him.

Posted December 17, 2013 11:17 am 


Happyboy

Sadly this fight will not happen while Pac is still under Bob’s thumb.All we doing now is increasing Pacmans profile by comparing him with an unbeaten fighter while he gets ktfo by 40yr olds and fighting tailormade LW coming off a loss.

Posted December 17, 2013 11:15 am 


PEEJ

YEAH MAYBE LET’S DO IT, BOYCOTTTTTTTTT

Posted December 17, 2013 11:13 am 


SREDMOND

Taunts and hyperbole cannot erase the FACT that we have video of Manny Pacquiao being beaten down by a 40 year old Juan Manuel Marquez…Pac Man is not the fearsome fighter he was before his stuggles in bout 3 and crushing loss in bout 4 to Marquez… He is still an elite fighter but he would be facing a SUPER Elite fighter who has NEVER come close to being put down 2x by a boxer and then laying motionless on the canvas, rolled over by his PORTLY (FAT) countryman Buboy and seeing an ancient Arum holding a wailing Jinkee while thinking DAMMNNNNNNNNN there goes my meal ticket!!! AGAIN Pacs amazing but beating a marked man like Brandon Rios hardly signals a return to form or uptick in his skills…What I saw in the last round is a boxer who had his confidence somewhat depleted, the Pac that used to finish backed off and touched gloves because the GHOST of that right hand ending all electrical activity in his brain muted his aggression… I would love for the bout to happen but we have discussed why it will not, its a mess that is not getting untangled till these guys are 60 years old….

Posted December 17, 2013 11:12 am 


Happyboy

Op Amp – Pac took the spotlight from Floyd when Floyd was on retirement but Floyd came back and snatched it back after a 2yr lay off and toyed with Marquez in a shut out.

Posted December 17, 2013 11:11 am 


PEEJ

And I’m convinced too that Floyd is certified DUCKER

Posted December 17, 2013 11:10 am 


PEEJ

Yeah lets believe the butt hurt 50 cent. lol. That is a credible source.

Posted December 17, 2013 11:08 am 


PEEJ

And actually I am fan of Pac, I like watching him fight. But unfortunately I am not a Pactoid. I can actually see from both sides of the glass when it comes to boxing. Yall only see from one side.

Posted December 17, 2013 11:07 am 


Hon

When Manny got knocked out Floyd Sr says my son would beat him. when Manny was going thru fighters like nothing Floyd Sr kept bringing up PEDS as an issue. When 50 cent said Mayweather is scared of Paquiao now that I believe. As long as Manny is a threat to Floyd Mayweather will DUCK DUCK AND DUCK

Posted December 17, 2013 11:07 am 


PEEwee

Oh ya? im a pacquiao fan too.. nice one

Posted December 17, 2013 11:06 am 


SREDMOND

We all know that Mayweather is NOT beholden to a “Belt” his status transcends the regular boxers metrics… He has been rated as a TOP P4P fighter for over 10 years without a single loss… Belts cannot matter too much because Manny Pacquiao does NOT have a single one EXCEPT the designer belt that keeps his pants up… Floyd is Ring Champ at 154 and Champ at 147, he is also the consensus P4P #1 fighter… At the end of the day Manny Pacquiao will have to leave TR like Miguel Cotto did in order to get a bout with Floyd Mayweather beyond that its not gonna happen just like we are not gonna see ANY fighters from these opposing companies square off.. Pacquiao seems incapable of advocating for himself and thus he is Arums employee that said we know Floyds not gonna deal with Bob Arum and vice versa….

Posted December 17, 2013 11:05 am 


PEEJ

truth is, I’M A BIG PACQUIAO FAN !!!……………

Posted December 17, 2013 11:03 am 


Happyboy

All pactards were raving on about why Pac should not take the test and how the available tests were sufficient until Pac got blasted by Marquez then suddenly rbt is a must. What happened to the Pac doesn’t need Floyd now.

Posted December 17, 2013 11:03 am 


SREDMOND

Nice try REM but the fact is that Pacquiaos career is 100% guided by Bob Arum and Arum is not seriously trying to make this bout… By doing what? saying “Mayweather should call us” ????? Huh? your guy is the B side opponent at this point if you were SERIOUS you would come to GBP with your head hung low and say hey what can we do to make this happen? We keep relieving Manny of all responsibility for creating pressure because of his humble ways and fledgling command of the language but sooner or later he might wanna go to a Mayweather fight and call him out or really get down in the ring and say call him out BIG after a bout without saying the words “My Promoter” but again this is just rhetoric because GBP and Top Rank are not gonna solve this issue and work together on ANY fights ANYTIME soon…

Posted December 17, 2013 10:59 am 


Happyboy

Op Amp – what goyes around comes around, it’s fine now to support WBC( World Boxing Crooks) give Manny a position he never earned as he lost 2 fights and won a fight against a guy coming off a loss to a JWW & a gift decision at LW now his #1 contender. Seems to me you guys don’t learn.

Posted December 17, 2013 10:59 am 


punch

Electrician, the fight will happen because Manyweather will have prove his not a coward.

Posted December 17, 2013 10:58 am 


REM

Arums a most convenient excuse but a real fighter wouldve crushed Arims cash cow since it’d be so easy. But no it has nothing to do with Arum it has to do with Pacs fast feet and lefthand. I bet every time Broner got smashed by Miadanas lefthook Floyd cringed.

Posted December 17, 2013 10:54 am 


urone2

Reni Valenzuela,

This is the biggest Pacquiao fan piece ever, just saying an improved Pacquiao hold no worth what so ever. Now, you might ask why would I say a thing like that, I know your first thought would be that I’m a Mayweather fan. That is correct in a way I’m a fan of his boxing not really a fan of Mayweather. The reason I say Manny is not the undeniable fight for Mayweather is he lost 2 out of 3 of his last bouts and won over a Rios who was the perfect type of boxer to make Manny look good. Plus this was Rios’ first fight at the 147 limit and Rios was coming off of a lose at 140. Shame on you for even pretending that Pacquiao is the forerunner.

Do I want to see Pacquiao fight Mayweather, yes I would love to see this fight and hopefully it gets made next year. It wont happen in May since Pacquiao has a date close to that aleady( yes as Arum and Pacquiao claim that they want Mayweather) it wont happen then. In your eye this is Mayweather fault for have his May date 2 month before Pacquiao entered his pout with Rios. I’m sure you think he picked that date to duck and avoid Pacquiao.

Remember the last time Mayweather was actually in the negotiation talks, Arums had call Mayweather out and Mayweather said he had the May 4th date and the MGM set up and ready to go. Arum claimed they needed an outdoor statium, and 6 months wasn’t long enough for Pacquiao cut to heal. Before that one when Mayweather was in the negotiation Mayweather said give them what they want I just want RBT up to the date of the fight. Needle, blood test cost him a fight, I can’t even remember some of the other stuff. All I know is if anyone was ducking it seems as if it was Pacquiao. This fight will only happen when Arum and Pacquiao get serious about it and stop with all of the smoke and mirrors.

The other thing is Shaefer is a promoter to say he is wrong for boasting about Mayweather/Alvarez PVP numbers is incorrect. He is boasting about the way they were able to promote that fight to great heights that’s his job. That puts him in the best position possible as a promote being able to generate large sums of money for the fighters he promotes.

Last but not least Pacquiao is on the way back he is not back yet, beat one of the top dogs at Welter and then say that Manny is back. In your logic Pacquiao beats a good LT Welter and now he’s ready for the best welter out there. I would like to see the Mayweather/Pacquiao fight just like anyone else, I wish it could have been made for May. But, to say the Pacquiao is the one and only #1 challenger to Mayweather is absurd.

Posted December 17, 2013 10:52 am 


PEEJ

Floyd is the Ring Champion and that is the only belt that matters. All roads lead to Floyd. If you can’t take the random test then you don’t get the fight. If you don’t accept the terms of the purse split then he will not get a fight with Floyd. Pac is at the back of the pack right now. He needs to beat Bradley before he will be considered an opponent to Floyd. Yeah Pac looks all good against slow come forward brawlers but he looks terrible against good boxers or counter punchers. All of which Floyd is. Then you got all the excuses on why he can’t do random testing and it all points to the simple fact that Arum does not want to let Pac near Floyd.

Posted December 17, 2013 10:50 am 


REM

Wow Floyds about to concede the lineal ww tittle to Pac I guess its better to just submit than get his face smashed and lose it anyway. Floyd doesn’t need Pac who needs a broken nose in their life it makes sense but Floyds legacy is in desperate need of an atg like Pac on it. What does that make for Pac 12 tittles 5 lineal damn there will never ever ever be another Manny “The Goat” Pacquiao. I guess the Miadana lefthooks that had Broner reciting his rap tour dances renewed Floyds fears of what the lefthand does to the shoulder roll.

Posted December 17, 2013 10:48 am 


Op Amp

“We dont do business with Arum” Fine, then take his money on this ONE fight, KO Pac, and be done with this once and for all. Then they can LOL at Arum and Pac for the rest of time. WHY would’nt Floyd do that???? Though Floyd knows he would beat Pac, I’m begining to wonder if its just that Pac is a cherry thats too big of a risk for Floyd the boxing business man. In the past, I generally blamed BOTH sides for the fight not happening, but now, it seems like like Floyd is the one running.

Posted December 17, 2013 10:47 am 


Young.L

p4p list
1) Mayweather 2) Broner 3)danny garcia 4) paulie malenagi 5)pacquiao 6) zab judah 7) shane Mosley 8) Ward 9) Cotto 10) delvin rodrighes.

Posted December 17, 2013 10:38 am 


Op Amp

It would be fantastic to see the WBC strip Floyd of the WW belt! Floyd has stated in the past, that the WBC strap is the only one that he actually values also. It would serve him right for not fighting Pac. I cant fathom why Floyd would denie himself the satisfaction of KOing Pac. ???? Certainly, it would be THE BEST victory of his career!

Pac TOOK more of Floyd’s spotlight over the last decade, then ANYONE else! The entire world knows, that Floyd would get the lions share of the purse, So WHAT could possibly be the hold up now?? IF Arum is ready to fork over the most of the $$$$$$$ from this fight, then who cares what else Arum is about, or he has done?

Posted December 17, 2013 10:35 am 


electrician

IT WONT HAPPEN…

Posted December 17, 2013 10:29 am 


Happyboy

Adrian – Manny cherrypicked him after the loss to Zaheer Raheem otherwise why didn’t he fight the winner?

Posted December 17, 2013 10:21 am 


Happyboy

Adrian – As a matter of fact Morales lost to Zaheer Raheem after beating Pac and lost every big match after that starting with with Pac2&3, Maidana, Garcia1&2. It’s fair to say he was never the same after he lost to Zaheer Raheem as proven by his record.

Posted December 17, 2013 10:18 am 


Anonymous

Another piece of garbage from this so called “writer.” I read the first two lines in the first paragraph and couldn’t continue. It was painful to read. Incoherent and gibberish. His head is so deep Pacroid’s colon he’s devoid of any reason. Trash!

Posted December 17, 2013 10:14 am 


deepwaters

lil floyd plays the prevent boxing game. not exciting.

Posted December 17, 2013 10:09 am 


Hon

Sredmond we also know Mayweather is a beatable fighter. Until he fights Manny, Garcia, Khan, Maidana then I will say Floyd is top dog. Only thing he’s got going it a UD record. Floyd seems to avoid fighting anyone in there prime.

Posted December 17, 2013 10:08 am 


Adrian

Hahahah … You are living la la land happy boy …”morales boxed his ears off she he was good”???? Hahahaha so imidiatley in a rematch he became bad eh?? It’s not that PAC took it to him but morales suddenly became bad???? You forgot the same morales fought Marquez and was a even fight ???ehh ??

How nice is to live in la la land …

Marquez ko PAC it happens who btw was losing a fight ….
Sredmond mayweather has no balls and trade like Marquez Marquez is a counterpuncher but he throws a combination and I can asure you mayweather will never do that !!

Posted December 17, 2013 10:05 am 


Happyboy

but the proof of the pudding is in the eating and this fight is not happening anytime soon.

Posted December 17, 2013 9:47 am 


Happyboy

and when you look at most of the guys in Manny’s resume they slow come forward fighters, Marquez, Margarito, Cotto, Clottey, Rios, Hutton, Diaz, even Mosley was the slow version, Roach even said ODH could no longer pull the trigger nevermind being weight drained. Morales boxed his ears off when he wa still good.

Posted December 17, 2013 9:45 am 


punch

Floyd does best when his under pressure not when he’s attacking and that spells doom for Manny.

Posted December 17, 2013 9:38 am 


punch

Since this is a hypothetical match-up as it may never happen, everyone’s entitled to their own opinion but the facts remains and a fighter true tendencies and habits can’t just disappear or be reengineered between fights. Pacman is surely a formidable opponent and a great test for Floyd on paper. In reality we have to take every aspect of a fighters game into consideration. Look at who Manny has had problems with and lost to, you would quickly notice that they were mostly boxers and good counter punchers not pressure fighters. It’s very easy to make the case for a Floyd’s victory but not for Manny’s. All Floyd has to do is make Manny miss and counter him all night. Manny will have to press the fight to land any meaningful blows which only set him up for a ko loss ala Marquez.

Posted December 17, 2013 9:34 am 


SREDMOND

PAC USED to be an attacker and he was SUBDUED by the same “counterpuncher” you are calling “slow” in fact he was knocked senseless LOL

Posted December 17, 2013 9:33 am 


SREDMOND

Mayweather never fought Pacquiao
And Pacquiao never fought Mayweather and if they don’t meet it is what it is…Mayweathers career is going full steam ahead, clearly the mans not concerned with Manny…

Posted December 17, 2013 9:31 am 


Adrian

PAC is not Marquez … Marquez Is a counterpuncher and he is to slow and small for mayweather to beat him on points like he couldn’t beat breadly ,PAC is a ferocious attacker and he is not like hatton baldomir or Guerrero who go forward but can’t punch like PAC and are much slower then him , and this mayweather knows well because PAC is not easy to beat and don’t put to much mayweathers win on marquez to base that on PAC , those are two totally different fights!

Posted December 17, 2013 9:19 am 


Adrian

Lol fActs are facts indeed , mayweather never fought PAC and you can yap all you want but you can’t never change that … You can’t avoid a fight and say ” eh i would beat him because morales beat him or marque once “

Posted December 17, 2013 9:11 am 


SREDMOND

Proven beyond theory with Floyd

Posted December 17, 2013 9:11 am 


SREDMOND

Facts are Facts and we know Mannys a beatable fighter something that has NOT been proven beyond theory with Manny who has been stopped 3x this is why FMJ is such a commodity, folks wanna see how long he can still dominate, PAC Man has been laid low and his recent punishment by the public reflects his now diminished status..

Posted December 17, 2013 9:07 am 


SREDMOND

Broner is NOT Mayweather and that was a response to an earlier comment, again
You can lament this bout forever but presently it’s not happening with the feud going on between GBP AND Top Rank…It Has been clearly stated that these companies are not making any fights period…

Posted December 17, 2013 9:04 am 


Adrian

Lol” until he leaves top rank”gtfo!!!!!

Posted December 17, 2013 9:04 am 


Adrian

HahshAhHsha still with ” he would do that he would do this “???hahahah

To bad your boy won’t even try to do that …..gag# gag #

Posted December 17, 2013 9:02 am 


punch

Floyd doesn’t need Manny, if he did, he would be in negotiation with him right now. It’s not like he’s in debt, Manny is. So, Floyd ‘s got the upper hand and he’s not playing until Manny quits top rank.

Posted December 17, 2013 9:02 am 


SREDMOND

Pacquiao would be a 3-1 underdog the man was recently KNOCKED cold by a guy who has only lost at WW including a Whitewash to Mayweather…This is not 2010, PAC would have to outbox the MASTER boxer and beating Brandon Rios offers 00000000 insight as to how to do that… Again it would be nice if it happened but it’s not certainly not first bout of 2014 Arum already named the retreads Pacs looking at Bradley and Marquez who is not interested..

Posted December 17, 2013 8:58 am 


Adrian

I don’t care* typo

Posted December 17, 2013 8:57 am 


Adrian

Sredmond, I don’t are who will be a favorite to win , broner was a favorite too against Maidana

Being “favorite” dosent give you a win In record books ! Prove it ….

Posted December 17, 2013 8:56 am 


SREDMOND

Floyd does NOT have to do Canelo numbers in order to be successful, he’s getting 32 mill plus any upside… That’s close to 2x Mannys last guarantee in the ring , Mayweather has proven over and over he does not need Pacquiao to become the most successful boxer in history in regards to purses and guarantees…Again pretending that he’s in the lessor position is not gonna create a scenario where they fight that’s called denial… Floyd’s not gonna hit 2 mill again, that said he already did it 2x and shattered all records he will do a mill or over which is a number that PAC missed in 2 of his last 3 contests..Fact is they are not gonna box while Manny is a TR fighter like it or not, the networks have chosen to pretend the other boxers out there are not even battling unless they are in eachothers side… This is business and fact is the fans miss out… That said no matter HOW big it’s one fight and life goes on…

Posted December 17, 2013 8:53 am 


SHREDMOND

Morning, sleep again..period

Posted December 17, 2013 8:43 am 


SHREDMOND

Who really cares if Floyd and Manny BANG. Money needs $$$$$$$$
Floyd needs Pacquiao. Period.

Posted December 17, 2013 8:42 am 


Happyboy

Oh yeah. as long as Floyd running we don’t watch him no more, fight doggie dude.. abce lullaby fighting cats.. huh.. lol

Posted December 17, 2013 8:38 am 


Auzbox

Ok Money May is aware now fans are tired of him running from Pac…!@#$%^&*()_+!!!! Go Reni .. count us in

Posted December 17, 2013 8:31 am 


deric

See what happens when you use GOD as a crutch and do things that are ungodly. You get humbled. Manny got humbled because he thought he was bigger than shat. Same thing w Robert Guerrero. Keep God’s name out your mouth because if your not 100 percent about GOD and you play games with him he will embarass and humble you in any way shape or fashion. The Truth always comes to light. Arum had all the cash cows @ once. Oscar, Floyd, Cotto and Pac, all of them. You can act like you dont see the truth. But it doesnt go away. Floyd only had one TRUE excuse “TAKE THE TEST”… When a certain boxer got KTFO..All of a sudden the tides turned and now Testing is done..HMMM Remember Manny Shooting Guns, Womanizing, Gambling, Adultery, Boozing and then act innocent in the face of GOD he’s getting what he deserves. When God Punishes He PUNISHES….So its all crumbling in front of his very eyes and ours as well.

Posted December 17, 2013 8:29 am 


Love-the-Sport

IT WOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE TO BE DUMBER THAN THIS AUTHOR.

PACQUIAO JUST CAME BACK WITH A WIN OVER A SLOW PLODDING FIGHTER AFTER TWO (2) SUB-PAR PERFORMANCES — INCLUDING ONE FIGHT WHERE HE WAS ALMOST KNOCKED INTO RETIREMENT.

WHAT IS THIS IDIOT TALKING ABOUT?

Posted December 17, 2013 8:26 am 


Boxing Machine

Reni(author)…are you on drugs? What makes you think Manny is ressurected? Who are the good competitors/champions he’s been beating? Last time I checked I jus beat a one dimensional fighter that jus lost his last fight, and manny had lost his last fight. So if beating Broner doesn’t make you eligible to fight Floyd how does beating Rios make you eligible? If that’s the case Alvarado should have been considered for a mayweather fight right?

Posted December 17, 2013 8:21 am 


larry b

We all need to move on from this. BS article

Posted December 17, 2013 8:21 am 


Beezy

Pac should rematch Bradley…….. this fight will only happen if Pac leaves TOP RANK.. come on people.. it’s not rocket science.. leave Top Rank, take the test, the fight will happen… Cotto left Top Rank.. why can’t Manny…. he would do way better financially leaving Top Rank probably…….

I think Floyd should face Maidana or Khan…. I think Danny Garcia ain’t ready yet and should fight on the undercard first… but regardless Floyd beats Garcia, Khan, and Maidana all in the same fashion and that’s just fact…. Floyd will beat Bradley and Pac as well… if you want someone to challenge Floyd, you may need Martinez at 154.. or GGG at 154 or maybe Demetrius Andrade at 154…. but I honestly don’t see Floyd losing to anyone at 147 or 154 right now…. or in 2014

We haven’t seen Floyd slow down yet

Posted December 17, 2013 8:14 am 


Mack

I thought this fight would never happen but I believe it will. In either September 2014 or May 2015. I doon’t believe Pac will resign with Top rank when his contract expires at the end of next year as he knows 1) he will never get the Mayweather fight and 2) He is running out of options (as is Mayweather). This will be the KO blow for Golden Boy in the promotional wars. This is what Golden boy is gearing for.

I guarentee you behind closed doors Golden boy has given Pacquaio a cast iron certainty that he will get a Mayweather fight if he signs with them. Arum on the other hand is desperate trying to co-promote the fight. Goldenboy will not agree to this because it feels it is winning the war. If they can lure pacman then you will start to see more and more top rank fighters heading in the opposite direction. I believe Golden boy will have a monoply in promoting in 10 years and I believe this has always been the goal.

Posted December 17, 2013 7:48 am 


Old Coot

LOL,, boycott Shaiefer

Posted December 17, 2013 7:39 am 


Mjames

Boycott Khan, boycott Mayweather

Posted December 17, 2013 7:37 am 


Auzbox

Suppose I agree just worry the numbers may be down cause of the Bradley fight fingers crossed they can get the may-PAC fight late next year if its not may

Posted December 17, 2013 7:34 am 


Honrad

Auz- It would redeem manny plus it would sell., Floyd thinks he’s the king of the sport just because of his ppv numbers. He fights another name besides manny. He will be highly criticized

Posted December 17, 2013 7:26 am 


Auzbox

Honrad why but. It will do nothing for manny they would just say he was old, it needs to Bradley and then mayweather, maybe danny Garcia

Posted December 17, 2013 7:16 am 


Honrad

Marquez will take that fight later with PAC, mark my words.

Posted December 17, 2013 7:13 am 


Auzbox

Manny would be the shortest price sredmomd since dela Hoya. In Australia mayweather be prob 1.50 to manny 2.80

Posted December 17, 2013 6:58 am 


Auzbox

Floyd going to get no where canelo numbers with khan, Garcia, maidena, broner but with PAC all the records will be beaten, only with the one fight the boxing world wants to see will records be beaten again.

Posted December 17, 2013 6:56 am 


SREDMOND

Adrian, if this fight was make able by all
Means lets do it that said its NOT so it’s left to prognosticate and whine about for eternity… Yeah the reality is that Mayweather would be the favorite if they did set a date… Do you really think oddsmakers would insert PAC as the probable winner? Perception of Pacs chances dimmed after Marquez 3 after 4 he needed a YEAR off and facing a guy coming up in weight off a loss…I would love to see this done and over with, but as long as Mannys with TR it ain’t happening..

Posted December 17, 2013 6:54 am 


SREDMOND

PAC via Marquez 4 did did LESS revenue than 3 there is NOT a single opponent that Manny could face absent Floyd that gives him the SLIGHTEST chance of touching Floyd’s bouts with Canelo or Oscar… PAC Man cannot sell invincibility like Mayweather who has never been bested, we saw that terrible haul against Rios 475k PPV… Manny can fight Marquez again and at best he does slightly over a mill, the public saw the past 4 bouts and the reality is that JMM is getting on towards 41 and just lost put a fork in it…

Posted December 17, 2013 6:49 am 


SREDMOND

Who Cares if Floyd and Pacquiao BANG Whores or feed the homeless they are boxers and that’s the ONLY thing I’m gonna pay to see them do… This “writer Valenzuela” sits this scenario solely in Mayweather lap when realistically what has Manny done to make the fight? He always defers to a promoter that Mayweather HATES and we know these promotional entities BOTH mean business as it pertains to not doing business… GBP is in position to let TR flounder with not a single 1mill PPV for a second year, I love PAC Man but his bout with Rios was a FLOP on the business side and he does not have anything hot to sell at this point Bradley just does not get people pumped despite his heart and fight game, OLD Marquez just booked a loss and the story has gotten tired, we pretty much saw the ending of that movie “cut to scene Pacquiao laying motionless” that said GBP put on some very good cards and they have a strong stable at WW and Jr WW it’s a ripe time to starve out a competitor that’s somewhat in limbo… Sucks for boxing fans but it is what it is, this BS comment about “Mayweathers Fans not calling him American”. What does that mean and how does this piss any ESB writer designate who is and who is NOT a US citizen??
Mayweather is NOT the one with a foreign government persecuting him for tax money and his mega paycheck are US dollar denominated… Guys go way to way with thier hard On’s for this contest the situation is what it is….”A rejuvenated Pacquiao” Manny looked good beating a VERY hand picked opponent who was also coming off a loss, PAC Man has still not got in witness someone offering more than his face and some slow hands and feet since JMM flattened him… Again Mannys an ATG, but where he goes from
Here remains to be seen especially if he starts becoming desperate for $$$$$$…

Posted December 17, 2013 6:44 am 


Honrad

Let pacman fight Marquez again, it will shatter Floyd’s so called records. He only got those records because Oscar and canelo has a huge Latin base followers.

Posted December 17, 2013 6:44 am 


punch

Manny needs Floyd more than Floyd needs him. So, many has to take whatever offer he’s given, case closed. By the way, Floyd by UD or stoppage if Many gets desperate.

Posted December 17, 2013 6:30 am 


Adrian

Old Coot

Ray Ray: If Floyd beats pac as convincingly as ya’ll say… I will bow to his greatness.

Posted December 17, 2013 5:38 am

Old coot – they don’t want that , they want to get a win from PAC by only ” assuming ” mayweather beats him ….

Most boxing fans don’t want nothing more than just to see them fight that’s all
But the nut huggers don’t want that,they want the gossip and trash talking instead !

Posted December 17, 2013 6:28 am 


Adrian

Happyboy

Yeah and Pac is a bible reading, wife cheating, starlet bonking, gambling and tax evading future president of Pinoy park

Posted December 17, 2013 5:00 am

Hahahahaha uh that bad boy paqiao …he reads the bible as if that’s so thing wrong … Hahahaha find something else happy happy boy

Posted December 17, 2013 6:22 am 


tbones

Coot Your boy Mannys fights dont sell right now period look at his numbers. The Rios bout had less than 550,000 ppvs, Kahn is huge in the UK and they will sell out this fight as soon as its announced much like Alverez maybe even bigger. Floyds fight with Alverez was bigger than when he fought Oscar it grossed 300 mil. Manny on the other hand numbers dont lie China didnt even buy the Rios bought. Boxing is like politics when you winning they love you but when you loss they kick you to the curb, Ask Mike Tyson and Adrien Broner and the people have spoken Manny is done they are not buying into the scam job by Arum who is matching him up with Bums to create a buzz thats a old trick To be the best you have to beat the best that the best right now is Floyd, Bradley, Garcia and Maidana. Rios is nowhere on the list. And how can the WBC make Manny a number 1 contender when he lost 2 out of his last 3 fights what a hype job…

Posted December 17, 2013 6:12 am 


Old Coot

What was Floyd’s basis for accusing Manny again? Oh… That’s right being to good for Floyd! LOL!

Posted December 17, 2013 5:44 am 


Old Coot

Happyboy… Let Floyd man up and fight Manny and watch ALL records be shattered! LOL!!

Posted December 17, 2013 5:41 am 


Old Coot

Happyboy: You can tell when someone knows their losing the argument… They start calling you moron. LOL!!

Posted December 17, 2013 5:39 am 


Old Coot

Ray Ray: If Floyd beats pac as convincingly as ya’ll say… I will bow to his greatness.

Posted December 17, 2013 5:38 am 


Old Coot

Tbones: If you really think Khan would be a bigger draw than Manny, you are truly deluded my man! And not worth talking to. WOW!! I hope you are not that stupid.

Posted December 17, 2013 5:37 am 


tbones

Two reasons why Floyd is fighting Khan a big day being one of them they other reason it will be a easy sell. Kahn is huge overseas and it will be another big ppv draw OVER 100 Mill pay day easily. Manny on the other hand loss almost all public interest, Besides that Arum is raping him. No way he should have tax troubles as much money as he made for Top rank. Floyd dont care about belts or bragging rights he wants the biggest fights before he retires thats all that will generate the most money. And Manny has zero draw right now no one bought the Rios fight. It wasnt a sale so until he redeems himself Golden boy will never make the fight happen. Manny needs to drop top rank really to rebuild his career if not he is done for. Danny Garica Maidana Mallinagi all would be good fights for him to get back on top. But it will never happen look for Arum to match him up with another bum like Rios then a rematch with Bradley and Marquez 5. Then he can blame it all on Mayweather for being scared when Oscar dela Hoya already said he cannot work with Arum and it wasnt Floyd fault that the fight was never made. Manny is destined to be hurt and broke, A sad boxer who brains is damaged and has nothing to show for his career,

Posted December 17, 2013 5:31 am 


Ray Ray

Here we go again? So if pac and Floyd do fight he will still get zero credit? Isnt Floyd older?

Posted December 17, 2013 5:24 am 


Ray Ray

Khan beat maidana…..I love the double standards…I like paulie but he is in alot of trouble if he signs on 2 maidana

Posted December 17, 2013 5:23 am 


Happyboy

Auzbox – then he better start begging.

Posted December 17, 2013 5:22 am 


DJ

It doesn’t matter now if Floyd fights Pacman in 2014, the fight should have been made a few years ago when Pac was in his prime. You can see from the Rios fight that he has slowed and his punches don’t have that crispness or power that he had a few years back. That is why the pretender Floyd avoided him until now. I really hope I’m wrong cause I love watching Manny fight but I think Mayweather will win now.

Posted December 17, 2013 5:21 am 


Ray Ray

Ha ha ha oh please….pro pac 4 2 weeks than pro floyd….write bout something else……this is getting nowhere?

Posted December 17, 2013 5:21 am 


Happyboy

Old Coot – ” atleast Manny has a real accusation and even possible evidence to use against Floyd… ” perhaps he should get you two morons to negotiate this fight for him.

Posted December 17, 2013 5:18 am 


Auzbox

I bet you he goes nearly double next fight

Posted December 17, 2013 5:09 am 


Happyboy

Old Coot – guess his not much of an entertainment when hestruggles to draw 500 000 PPVs, Chinese were not buying into his crap either.

Posted December 17, 2013 5:08 am 


Auzbox

Khan is most definitely a joke, he only fighting him to try get a knockout, if he doesn’t it will be as funny as hell

Posted December 17, 2013 5:04 am 


MJames

Khan is not a “solid guy”. Khan is a joke.

Posted December 17, 2013 5:03 am 


Old Coot

Happyboy: But he never beat women nor went to jail… NOR CHEATED WITH PEDS LIKE FLOYD! LOL!!

Posted December 17, 2013 5:01 am 


Old Coot

Happyboy: We don’t expect to see how boring ass floyd played ya’ll for hundreds of millions while Manny has entertained for every cent.

Posted December 17, 2013 5:00 am 


Happyboy

Yeah and Pac is a bible reading, wife cheating, starlet bonking, gambling and tax evading future president of Pinoy park

Posted December 17, 2013 5:00 am 


Auzbox

If floyd wants it as much as manny it will happen it has to

Posted December 17, 2013 4:59 am 


Old Coot

Happyboy: and we don’t expect you to see how boring ass phony floyd has played ya’ll for hundreds of millions while Manny has entertained for his.

Posted December 17, 2013 4:58 am 


Happyboy

I also don’t expect you two idiots to see that this fight will never be made as long as Pac is stil with Arum.

Posted December 17, 2013 4:57 am 


Happyboy

Both you chumps never saw Marquez blasting Pac TWICE, I sure as hell don’t expect you to see anything but Heredia and Hauser.

Posted December 17, 2013 4:55 am 


Old Coot

Happyboy: I betcha when push comes to shove Floyd will be dirty and Manny won’t! FOOL! Floyd, a chicken and a hypocrite!

Posted December 17, 2013 4:55 am 


Happyboy

Old Coot – the article has evidence yet nothing has been done by the boxing commission, media, etc just you chumps & Hauser. I wonder how that goes?

Posted December 17, 2013 4:51 am 


Old Coot

Happyboy: At least Manny has a real accusation and even possible evidence to use against Floyd… But what was Floyd’s basis again? What NONE?!! LOL!!

Posted December 17, 2013 4:46 am 


Auzbox

I’m with you all the way (old coot) I just can’t see floyd beating manny, I can see it by decision and stoppage where usually who ever floyd fights needs to stop him

Posted December 17, 2013 4:46 am 


Happyboy

Old Coot – you may twist it anyway you want Manny refused rbt and is now back begging for a fight with rbt with the IRS & BRI at his back.

Posted December 17, 2013 4:46 am 


Old Coot

Auzbox: Me too… If he whoops Manny well, I will admit Floyd is the man… He just gotta get off the pot and fight Manny first. Bit of a TALL order getting him to though.

Posted December 17, 2013 4:44 am 


Happyboy

Thats cause Manny & Arum have come out and admitted to the tax charges, tax liniency. Mayweather has not even bothered with Hauser.

Posted December 17, 2013 4:44 am 


Old Coot

Happyboy: So what was the basis for Floyd’s RBT demands of Manny?… What? NONE!! LOL!! Hell, sounds like Manny needs to be the one making RBT demands of Floyd… Not to mention he also shoot up his brittle meat hooks with Zylocaine… Oh but then even if Manny did demand RBTs, Floyd will just pay to get a waiver and cover it up from NSAC again… So what’s the point?

Posted December 17, 2013 4:41 am 


Auzbox

No rubbish if floyd wins ill eat that bit of pie, I honestly don’t see it but

Posted December 17, 2013 4:38 am 


Happyboy

Why should Floyd bother with Pac when he spanks him you FOOLS will come up with nonsense and baseless accusations

Posted December 17, 2013 4:37 am 


Old Coot

@ Auzbox… Good one!

Posted December 17, 2013 4:36 am 


Auzbox

He got you happyboy

Posted December 17, 2013 4:36 am 


Auzbox

Yeh forgot he was a woman basher, heard he didn’t knock her out either no POWER lol

Posted December 17, 2013 4:35 am 


Old Coot

Happyboy: You forget Floyd had to pay $19m in back taxes in 2007! Plus Manny never attacked rent a cops, nor went to jail as a woman beater in front of his kids. Manny just father a kid with an outside piece of ass, is all.

Posted December 17, 2013 4:33 am 


Happyboy

Thats your proof, an article. You are a FOOL!

Posted December 17, 2013 4:33 am 


Old Coot

Well, well, well… According to the maxboxing.com article called The PED Mess, by respected boxing writer Thomas Hauser, it turns out that between Manny and Floyd… FLOYD is the only one who failed several PED tests and may have gotten USADA waivers, THEN covered up results from NSAC, before at least two fights!!

Posted December 17, 2013 4:30 am 


Happyboy

Floyd must be the only positive thats never been reported publicly, I wonder why, could it be that there’s no proof, much like Pac’s proof of payment of taxes. Lol

Posted December 17, 2013 4:29 am 


Happyboy

BTW so did Armstrong, Bonds, Mosley & Marion Jones.

Posted December 17, 2013 4:27 am 


Happyboy

Hauser,is old news Old Coot. Facts and evidence will help otherwise like Pac PEDmystery he walks……

Posted December 17, 2013 4:25 am 


Old Coot

Manny never failed ONE test… But Floyd failed like three and got it covered up! LMFAO!!

Posted December 17, 2013 4:23 am 


Old Coot

More and any of TMT rumors that led to RBT demands of Pac, it is very likely that it is FLOYD who cheated and covered up at least 2 hot RBT, from NSAC before the Ortiz and Cotto fights!

Posted December 17, 2013 4:22 am 


Happyboy

Heredia was there when Pac got a gift decision on their 3rd fight and Pac had used Heredia’s Salesman ( Jamaican Big Trevor Phillips who has a life ban from athletics from supplying them with PEDs) as a S & C trainer. They all have skeletons in their closet so whose deemed innocent?

Posted December 17, 2013 4:20 am 


Old Coot

So loyal but blind Floyd apologists can call the Hauser article “just rumors” all they like… But we now all know Floyd is the only one between him and Manny who repeatedly failed RBTs and covered it up, and who and even paid Manny to drop the lawsuit!

Posted December 17, 2013 4:18 am 


Auzbox

Don’t forget happyboy manny has been getting between 20-30 mill for a while now I’m sure 18 won’t be to hard to find if its true at all

Posted December 17, 2013 4:17 am 


Happyboy

Floyd has demanded rbt from many boxers including Pac but his the only one who refused and his the only one who he never got the fight. Now the midget is broke and his begging so let him beg. Wait till he finds out how much Arum has been swindling from him.

Posted December 17, 2013 4:11 am 


Auzbox

Happyboy floyd said that manny isn’t flying to see him so that story may be untrue, floyd be wetting his pants being across a table let alone the ring

Posted December 17, 2013 4:09 am 


Adrian

David B.

So Pac beat Rios ‘in a manner no-one saw coming”? Umm, no! practically everyone knew that Rios would be just a punching bad for manny!

Posted December 17, 2013 3:51 am

WRONG!!!! Forman , sugar ray , Duran etc… Said rios would beat PAC .
And now we just learned they even juiced rios to ko PAC and ruin his carrier once and for all… But nope! PAC is still around ,unfortunately for some …

Posted December 17, 2013 4:00 am 


Old Coot

Happyboy: Well for one thing, Floyd demanded RBTs from Manny for NO reason other than what he knew about the needle shenanigans that happened prior to the 2nd Morales fight Manny lost and blamed on it. Whereas, Manny demanded RBT’s because Marquez had recently hired a convicted PED cheater named Angel Heredia! Nice try though.

Posted December 17, 2013 3:58 am 


Happyboy

Old Coot – guess whose flying across the world to beg for a fight with rbt? LMFAO!

Posted December 17, 2013 3:57 am 


Adrian

largo

i said the fight would make tons of money but it wont be competitive…Floyd beats Pac & TKO him in the later rounds. Are those excuses? i don’t think so; that’s only my opinion & i’m entitled to it.

Posted December 17, 2013 2:27 am

That’s fine but also until mayweather fights PAC boxing fans are “entitled ” to think mayweather is scared of PAC .

Posted December 17, 2013 3:56 am 


Old Coot

Manny lost once… And was easily winning the round he got KO’d… Whereas Khan suffered two LEGIT losses, back-back-and doesn’t have Pac’s resume and can’t get Floyd the payday… So why Khan?… I say it’s fear of a Manny beatdown… And I think you know it too!

Posted December 17, 2013 3:54 am 


Auzbox

David b all the guys the floyd guys on here picked rios, who else was he gonna fight if not rios

Posted December 17, 2013 3:53 am 


Adrian

largo

Adrian, I wouldn’t mind watching the fight but I know that Floyd would beat him easy…but you accused me of making excuses for Floyd & I’d like you to tell me what those excuses were…

Posted December 17, 2013 1:55 am

That’s the excuse right there ” he would beat him” that’s fine it’s your opinion but that’s not a real reason for not taking the fight with PAC …

If we score fights just based on opinions then we won’t need fighters to actualy fight we could just score th based on talent but that’s not the way boxing works my friend !

Posted December 17, 2013 3:53 am 


Happyboy

Old Coot – so when Floyd requests rbt it’s an excuse but when St.Pac does he wants to level the playing fields. LMFAO!

Posted December 17, 2013 3:52 am 


David B.

So Pac beat Rios ‘in a manner no-one saw coming”? Umm, no! practically everyone knew that Rios would be just a punching bad for manny!

Posted December 17, 2013 3:51 am 


Old Coot

Happyboy: Tell Floyd to settle this once and for all… Manny is ready… But I betcha Floyd will pass up $100 million +, to fight Khan? WHY?!!

Posted December 17, 2013 3:50 am 


Auzbox

Manny was worth the $ cotto was chasing the $ manny had stopped dela Hoya and hatton in his past 3 fights

Posted December 17, 2013 3:49 am 


Happyboy

Old Coot – Mayweathers career has improved to better heights while Pac suffered two losses & is desperately trying to convice us that his still relevant by beating drug cheating LW who was coming off a loss.

Posted December 17, 2013 3:49 am 


Old Coot

Zuks… Sure they don’t make sense… Sure they don’t. LOL!! FLOYD and his drama and blind fans don’t make sense!

Posted December 17, 2013 3:46 am 


Old Coot

@ Happyboy: Bottom line… All this RBT crap WAS Floyd’s illusion to duck a certain ass stompin!! And now, despite the fact that the WORLD STILL wants to pay both of them (especially Floyd) the best money yet to see the fight, Floyd the self proclaimed “check casher”, claims Manny is no longer worthy? LOL!

Posted December 17, 2013 3:45 am 


Zuks

Old Coot:

You are writing a lot of things which don’t sense!

Tsek

Posted December 17, 2013 3:44 am 


Happyboy

Auz – my point exactly why was Cotto weight drained, he was the WW champ.

Posted December 17, 2013 3:39 am 


Old Coot

@ Happyboy: So when Floyd found out how Manny blamed needles for his loss, Floyd KNEW that under the circumstances, he could demands extra tests and hopefully make Manny kill the fight, out of that fear and his pride… Which worked… The fight died, repeatedly on this count… Then afterwards Floyd knew all he had to do was distract from ducking the guy by getting his camp, his cronies, and fans like YOU Happyboy, to constantly accuse Manny of hiding something, when the fact is he was simply superstitious about blood tests at the time.

Posted December 17, 2013 3:38 am 


Old Coot

Basically, after his loss to Morales, Manny believed Erik paid someone to lose Manny’s bloodtests, forcing him to take more, just 3 days before the fight… Which Manny felt made him weak…

Posted December 17, 2013 3:35 am 


Old Coot

Happyboy: FYI… Floyd first got the idea to demand bs RBT, because he had recently heard Manny say on Philippine TV that he had recently become scared of bloodtesting within close days of the fight because of what happened with bloodtesting before he lost to Morales…

Posted December 17, 2013 3:34 am 


Old Coot

Happyboy: Why did Floyd need to cheat on weight TWICE, against a bloated slowed down LW?! HUH?!!

Posted December 17, 2013 3:31 am 


Old Coot

Happyboy… Let’s see the fight, then we’ll know who was the magician with the illusions… Alas Floyd won’t do it… Because he’s scared and so now that RBT demands won’t fly no more, the new and improved Floyd excuse is that Manny is no longer a worthy opponent? LOL!! Yeah… RIGHT FLOYD!!

Posted December 17, 2013 3:29 am 


WHAT!?!

Holy Crap!!! This writer just bent Floyd over his knee and gave him a spanking for the ages. LOL.

Posted December 17, 2013 3:29 am 


te tumbo

Pacquiao* won’t dare to seriously challenge Mayweather until the final fight of his career. preferably, beyond his Showtime contract and after having lured Floyd out of retirement. they’ll keep farting in the dark about wanting to face Mayweather but it’s all stale and predicable hype by now. bottomline, i won’t believe that Team Pacquiao* is serious until i see Arum personally break ground on the new 40,000 seat venue he required of himself. till then, there is literally not a single reason to seriously consider this matchup. it is that distant from reality.

Posted December 17, 2013 3:28 am 


Auzbox

Happyboy you forget naturally manny is lighter than floyd, he had to weight his pockets for his first fight so when people wanted to chase the manny money it’s there job to take on the champ at his weight. I bet floyds not going to 140 to fight khan now is he

Posted December 17, 2013 3:20 am 


Happyboy

Old Coot – lol, illusion of styles……damn. Then what do you call the catchweight ( ODH, Cotto, Margocheato), Mosley, 40yr old Marquez, ” lead footed ” Clottey, Rios……

Posted December 17, 2013 3:17 am 


Happyboy

Everyone wouldn’t mind watching Pac vs May but Pactards have the nerve to try force this fight on May after the stunts they’ve pulled when Pac refused rbt 50/50, $40M offer ( deemed as excuses ). Pac already got pasted by 40yr old Marquez & beating LW Bum Bum Rios certainly doesn’t put him ahead of the line. Bradley deserves the fight more at the moment besides Floyd is not desperate for money, he can more than offord to collect his usual $40M guarantee from fighting Garcia, Mardana, Martinez,

Posted December 17, 2013 3:09 am 


Old Coot

Happyboy: Mayweather VS Marquez was an illusion of styles and of Floyd’s usual pre-fight tricks… Now Floyd complains about Manny just fought a lightweight in Rios, but conveniently forgets when he demanded Marquez gain ten pounds of muscle for the first time in his career, which he knew Juan would not have time for his reflexes to catch up to the new bulk. Not to mention Floyd had to pay a fine for being overweight against a slow, bloated Marquez… In fact Floyd could have waited just 3 days to fight Pacquiao, but instead picked Marquez because he has lead feet… Just like Floyd did by picking Guerrero and Alvarez, after he nearly fatally underestimated Cotto foot-speed and agility… In other words, because Marquez, Guererro and Alvarez can only fight guys who are willing to stand there and fight them… Like Manny… They are too lead footed to keep up with or hit a fleet footed defensive pot shot master like Floyd… So Floyd knew he simply has to avoid and counter to a UD… Ah, but when it comes to the Pac-man, Floyd knows that unlike lead footed Marquez, or Alvarez, Manny CAN get to him like Cotto did… Only twice as hard because he won’t get tired either!!!

Posted December 17, 2013 3:08 am 


Auzbox

Anonomous I have said this ten times over they were only low because they were not in the states and everyone but a few of us thought his flare was gone but how 75 percent of you were wrong, and everyone says rios was a bum but the best critics in the world said he should of picked a lesser opponent but manny wanted a b grade guy not like cotto-Rodriguez

Posted December 17, 2013 3:02 am 


Auzbox

Doesn’t say how hard he hits by getting hit another Aussie kadsidies dropped Marquez to and if I remember rightly he couldn’t finish the job, how did floyd fare against cotto remembering manny fought him first in his prime and stopped him

Posted December 17, 2013 2:59 am 


Anonymous

Bottom line is no one is interested in Manny right now and the Rios fight proved it he had less than 550,000 ppv the sales sucked. Before he can think about Mayweather he needs to beat Bradley and Marquez. To make this fight big again. Back in 09 everyone wanted to see it now it lost all its steam. After Manny got KOed and had poor performances he looked good agaisnt Rios but again thats easy to do Rios was a bim and the boxing public is not buying that he is back until he gets more wins against worthy opponets. Manny should fight Miadana or Thurman or Bradley. Floyd will fight Kahn next and then they should fight each other it would he huge again

Posted December 17, 2013 2:58 am 


Auzbox

He won’t risk his 0 old coot but he should but we both know how it goes down and manny beats him 365 days a year!

Posted December 17, 2013 2:57 am 


Happyboy

Auzbox – you claim Marquez hits ten times harder than Floyd yet it was Marquez who had to pick his butt from the floor in a 12rnd shut out after a 2yr lay off.

Posted December 17, 2013 2:56 am 


Old Coot

Auzbox: Yup!… All the obvious tactics over the last 5 years or so, have shown that Mayweather, at the very least fears he can’t handle the onslaughter called Pac-man!!

And I firmly believe Broner VS Maidana was a lower level preview of Mayweather against Pacquiao… The major difference being that while I think Broner has more heart than Floyd, Floyd is much better defensively than Broner, and therefore I have no illusions that Floyd will make Manny miss more than usual, even for him… But on the flip side, Manny is way better than Maidana too, Is less wild, much quicker on his feet, and throws SO many speedy off angled aggressive power shots, that he will land more than Cotto did which was more than Floyd was used to… Thus similar to Cotto, Floyd will not be able to keep Manny off him enough to win his usual unanimous decision. NOT this time! Much like how Broner was not able to do with Maidana, Only less intense… Translation, Manny will STILL beats Floyd down, despite his slick defense and counters… PERIOD!! Mark my words… Now if we can only we can somehow make Floyd finally fight the damned guy!

Posted December 17, 2013 2:55 am 


Auzbox

At least someone makes sense below

Posted December 17, 2013 2:53 am 


shaun the god

how the hell dose anyone know whos responsible for the fight not happening. ur not behind the scenes.
they are both to blame if u ask me. If they wanted the fight it would have happend.

Posted December 17, 2013 2:51 am 


Auzbox

Largo in his prime Oscar dela lost by 2 rounds and manny whipped him and is quicker so how do you think it’s a shut out. Head out of your butt buddy

Posted December 17, 2013 2:45 am 


Auzbox

The only reason that he wants khan is because he has a glass jaw and is the only guy he can knock out cause he is a puny light welter that has never weighed over 143

Posted December 17, 2013 2:43 am 


Auzbox

Spoon fed ponchito he never ducked a fight ever may has even back with kostya tszyu the great, kostya woulda whipped him like he did his crack head uncle

Posted December 17, 2013 2:41 am 


Auzbox

If floyd can’t stop Moseley or guerro in his earlier days he def hasn’t got power to hurt PAC, Marquez hits ten times harder than floyd

Posted December 17, 2013 2:39 am 


Auzbox

What’s floyd going to do largo fight a guy that’s 2-2 or someone that has won more titles than him, know what he will choose

Posted December 17, 2013 2:38 am 


Old Coot

For all those Floyd apologists who delude themselves into pretending Floyd is not scared of Manny, or that Floyd ever REALLY thought Manny was on dope, our frequent ESB patron, Hec Dog, diligently found a very interesting article on the truth about who is REALLY the PED cheat… And it ain’t Manny!!! So as Hec Dog suggested… Go to maxboxing.com The article is called “The Ped Mess” by Thomas Hauser, a very well regarded boxing insider and boxing writer. Then read and weep.

Posted December 17, 2013 2:37 am 


largo

i said the fight would make tons of money but it wont be competitive…Floyd beats Pac & TKO him in the later rounds. Are those excuses? i don’t think so; that’s only my opinion & i’m entitled to it.

Posted December 17, 2013 2:27 am 


Ponchito

What none and I mean none of you understand is that Amir khan is more of a threat than pacquiao. Pacquiao is a hype job who has been spoon fed opponents since Antonio Barrera. Stop the propaganda!

Posted December 17, 2013 2:26 am 


BeReal

There is no other fight that make good sense. its Pac vs May everybody Always talk about this shoud happen now ,not in 2 years ,with pacs fighting style you dont get fresher in his age. May has a much better chance stylewise.
Still see pac fighting better then all other mismatches that everybody in beforehand may was going to win

But its the only fight ,and this whole decade will have a big ? mark if the fight never takes Place.

Posted December 17, 2013 2:24 am 


Farmboxer

Void, Sr. said that Void, Jr. would never fight Pac. He said that right after Pac stopped Cotto, something Void could not do. Void is afraid he might get hurt, etc., Void is extremely afraid of Pac because Void knows that styles make fights and Pac is the wrong style for Void. Void is a coward and he knows it. Why would Void and his camp claim that Pac is a drug addict when there has never beem any evidence of such? Well, it’s because Void will do anything to avoid Pac………

Instead Void will fool his fans by fighting Khan, or is is Con? The fight everyone wants to see, except for Void fans, is Pac. Void fans do not want Void to fight Pac because they know that Void is afraid of Pac because of styes. I know I will not buy Void/Khan fight, how absurd, perhaps I would watch Void/Maidana fight, but Pac is the fighter everyone wants Void to fight. Void takes his fans for fools………….

Posted December 17, 2013 2:20 am 


GaryintheBronx

Tim Bradley deserves the next Mayweather shot – Bring all four factions together and make this fight happen – sort out the riggamaroll and let the fans watch Tim unlock this puzzle!

Posted December 17, 2013 2:19 am 


largo

Adrian, I wouldn’t mind watching the fight but I know that Floyd would beat him easy…but you accused me of making excuses for Floyd & I’d like you to tell me what those excuses were…

Posted December 17, 2013 1:55 am 


jake

sounds like a good fight , just hate the pre fight circus

Posted December 17, 2013 1:41 am 


Adrian

Largo – do you like to see mayweather fight PAC or not?

Forget about who floyed or PAC fought , everyone knows all to well mayweather sand PAC resumes but the question is do you like to see mayweather fight PAC ? If not WHY????

Posted December 17, 2013 1:38 am 


largo

but i don’t want you to run & hide…tell me what excuses i gave for Floyd.

Posted December 17, 2013 1:31 am 


largo

BTW, Adrian, you don’t remember me, do you?

Posted December 17, 2013 1:29 am 


lightsoutOhio

Sorry but Pacman would never get in the ring with Canelo.
Mayweather schooled him . And yes Canelo would beat down pacman.

Posted December 17, 2013 1:27 am 


largo

what are the excuses am i providing?…

Posted December 17, 2013 1:26 am 


lightsoutOhio

Adrian- the same Marquez who Mayweather schooled badly all 12 rounds. Toyed with him! Mayweather is the best counter puncher in the game .

Posted December 17, 2013 1:24 am 


largo

Adrian, what are the excuses are providing for Floyd??

Posted December 17, 2013 1:23 am 


The Champ

If bob Arum and Mayweathr are problem so why not let them fight against each other

Posted December 17, 2013 1:21 am 


Adrian

Sure Marquez did it in the ring but no mayweather … You can only dream mayweather did that because in the real world it never happened , sorry ….

Posted December 17, 2013 1:20 am 


lightsoutOhio

I see it’s Jerry’s kids hour.

“And with a perfect straight right hand, Juan Manuel Marquez scored a spectacular and sickening knockout of Manny Pacquiao .”

Good night

Posted December 17, 2013 1:15 am 


The Prince

SUP YALL – Floyd already came out twice in support of Broner; during the second time, he called out all the fakers that were supporting Broner, but abandoned him after he lost.

Posted December 17, 2013 1:14 am 


SUP YALL

I agree with some of ya. BOB ARUM is the problem because MAYWEATHER doesn’t want him involved in the negotiations. Bob Arum needs to step aside. Mayweather will find always any excuse to NOT fight Pacquiao and using the ” Arum is the problem ” excuse seems to be working so far and yet Pacquioa is too stupid to take notice.

Posted December 17, 2013 1:13 am 


Adrian

We are *not

Posted December 17, 2013 1:12 am 


Adrian

Aware not talking if floyed is good or not he is of course but the article is about him fighting PAC which he should because there is no bigger fight then if he fights PAC and that’s a fact , say ain’t so. ??!!!

Posted December 17, 2013 1:12 am 


SUP YALL

Mayweather to Broner ” You aint my lil bro….” Then runs for the hills and hides.

Posted December 17, 2013 1:10 am 


Adrian

Largo – enough already with the excuses , mayweather is afraid of losing and that’s it period because there is no f… Reason for mayweather Not to fight PAC …that’s the point ,it’s simple fight PAC and show the world in the ring that you can beat him , it would be good for his legacy it would be good for fans and it would be a money maker fight , what’s a f….problem then ????? I don’t see any other reason exept avoiding the fight because of fear of losing ….
Enough already with excuses!!!!

Posted December 17, 2013 1:08 am 


largo

Auzbox, you’re a clown…Floyd was pursuing & harassing Oscar for years to fight him & if you don’t know that, well, that proves that you’re just a buffoon posting b.s in a boxing site…

Posted December 17, 2013 1:07 am 


The Prince

Floyd supporters talk with logic and sense, even some Floyd critics at least admit that Mayweather is a special fighter and done special things in his career. Mayweather haters don’t use logic or sense; they just spam the forums with jealously, envy, and outright hatred. Yet, Floyd keeps winning and is already a HOF and an ATG according to top boxing experts that matter.

Posted December 17, 2013 1:06 am 


Rudy the Ram

Pac needs to fight Bradley

Posted December 17, 2013 1:06 am 


lightsoutOhio

Adrian get them Filipino Nutts out your mouth. Bob arum is the problem. Mayweather already tried to make the fight many times only to hear BS. Mayweather is P4P king still. Pacman is 1-2 he’s last 3 fights,PPV # taking a big hit, JMM knock his @ss OUT last fight and doesn’t want to fight him anymore, top stink only uses the P4P king name saying they want to fight….then the same day set a date for his next fight Bradley. Come on! Same S#it by top stink different year.

Posted December 17, 2013 1:04 am 


Auzbox

Dela Hoya intimidated him and got ripped

Posted December 17, 2013 1:00 am 


largo

How can anybody put “coward” & “fear” together with Floyd, in any responsible manner? I challenge anybody to name a Floyd’s opponent that has intimidated him in any shape, way or form…the opposite has always been more often the case; Floyd gets on these guys faces right off the bat & let them know who the boss is without a hint of any doubt & he keeps it up ’till the day of the fight & then he proceeds & beats them silly…I can only think of two guys that are as strong as Floyd mentally: Bradley & Hopkins. “Coward” & “fear” do not mix well with Jr. just like oil does not mix with water…enough already.

Posted December 17, 2013 12:57 am 


Adrian

Hahahaha peej who are you trying to fool ??? I can smell your stank peej boy!

Posted December 17, 2013 12:54 am 


Adrian

You f@@… Floyd’s nutthugers!!!! Read what are you writing first then you can see what kind if hypocrite you are , you claim bob arum Is the reason that he fight will never happen then you say floyed said he will never fight pac !!!???’!!

If you are going to support floyed for not taking the fight then at least don’t blame PAC for that !!!! You can’t have both ways you nutthugers!!!!

Posted December 17, 2013 12:52 am 


lightsoutOhio

Adrian= peepee that can’t extended past your pants zipper.

No peej here BOY.

Posted December 17, 2013 12:51 am 


Adrian

Lights out Ohio = peej

Posted December 17, 2013 12:46 am 


Auzbox

All you floyd duckweather idiots, manny would have whipped him 5 years ago and he will whip him now, fight amir khan that’s weight has never been above 143 and has a glass jaw- what a great champion pffffft keep ducking

Posted December 17, 2013 12:45 am 


Anonymous

This fight will never happen again because of Arum. Manny is in serious tax troubles, and needs to be bailed out. Floyd is his only option. Arum is too greedy and derailed it many times. Golden boy stated they have no interest in working with him. Its never been about fear. Top skank tries to control when Floyd is the bigger draw. Honestly Manny needs to redeem himself first a big win over Bradley or Marquez will better argue his case. Floyd holds all the cards and negotiating power like he does in all his fights he is his own promoter. Manny needs to get rid of Arum and this fight would have been happened. But now they powers that be dont want it are the troubles associated with it. Manny has zero power to make anything happen Arum is running him and Floyd dont want to make him richer….

Posted December 17, 2013 12:38 am 


Rhino718

This is clearly a bias writer. PAC isn’t the fighter that he used to be & IMO I’d rather see Floyd fight Garcia. The problem is your average fan just doesn’t like mayweather & really believes he’s avoiding guys. But I guess that’s why he makes the money that he does, ppl want to see him like Broner on Saturday night. That’s not likely unless he sticks around too long.

Posted December 17, 2013 12:33 am 


Jasper

I am a fan of Pacs but I cannot understand Pactards. They call Floyd a coward yet what has Arum attapted to do to get this fight to happen? How many times has he picked up the phone and called anyone regarding the fight? It seems to me the only one who has done anything concreat to make this happen since 09 is Floyd. People may not have like the offer that he mad in2012 but the guy call pac directly and yet Pac only hangs up the phone. I am glad Pac has Finally taken the inititave and decide to go the US and ask floyd personally.

Posted December 17, 2013 12:15 am 


largo

Floyd/Pac doesn’t hold any suspense anymore like it did when Pac was fresher; a few years back was really intriguing what Pac’s speed, work-rate & power could accomplish against the best fighter on the planet…that’s all gone now & right now that fight is a mismatch; Floyd would toy with Pac & would stop him late. If the fight is made, it’d make tons of money but the outcome should be clear for any knowledgeable boxing fan. Pac hasn’t shown a single thing that Floyd can’t nullify & counter…not a thing.

Posted December 16, 2013 11:52 pm 


Happyboy

We all know Arum has already set the dates for Manny ( Bradley2, Marquez5, Alvarado & Provodnikov). No Mayweather, Thurman, Maidana, Porter, Garcia, Peterson,Alvarez, Lara, Martinez, GGG.

Posted December 16, 2013 11:51 pm 


rod

Mathweather will NEVER fight Pac because PAC WILL NEVER GET IN THE RING. He will make some excuse. Mayweather is all about the money, give him enough money and he will fight, Manny always has been the issue.

Posted December 16, 2013 11:27 pm 


Havoc

Floyd is good but until he man up and fight pacman and beat him then for sure he is the best boxer in this decade. Until then he can fight who ever he wants and still will be a joker boring cherry picker in my book.

Posted December 16, 2013 11:13 pm 


The Prince

I believe Mayweather will fight Maidana next, if Broner doesn’t take the rematch first.

Posted December 16, 2013 11:01 pm 


The Prince

The fight won’t happen. People need to watch Mayweather’s latest interview. He said and I’ll quote: “I will never put money in that man’s pockets.” end quote. Granted he was talking about rather he paid PPV to watch the Rios fight, but you can easily take it to mean that he won’t work with Arum to make a fight with Pacquiao as well. And we already know that Arum feels the same way about Mayweather. It’s a shame that a personal feud will keep this fight from happening, but if Manny truly believes he can beat Floyd, he needs to do what Cotto did and leave Toprank to fight him.

Posted December 16, 2013 10:59 pm 


lionhard

To the XYLOCAINE preist thats posting his “FACT” …can you please direct me on the net to the PROOF you have of this…it’d be much appreciated! You can check out the Olympics Committees president quotes concerning Team-Pacquiaos REFUSAL to take STRINGENT testing, and Team-Mayweathers acceptance.

Posted December 16, 2013 10:50 pm 


Proud Yank

The writer is a butt hurt pacturd. did Bob Arum build that stadium
In Vegas yet?

Posted December 16, 2013 10:44 pm 


Thurmal Underwear

Floyd could care less about a belt. Seriously.

Posted December 16, 2013 10:42 pm 


lionhard

This writer is bias….no doubt! Once Mayweather agrees to this fight – right now….youre gonna immediately have some SAD Pactards on the HORIZON; due to the fact Pac hasnt done well recently! Theyre gonna BLAME this on Mayweather wholeheartedly, and use it as leverage when The Smoke & Mirror Congressman falls. They’ll NEVER give Mayweather the CREDIT he DESERVES, especially since Pacquiao wants what he wants right now!! Mayweather LOSES either way, wow, what a PARADOX!!!

Posted December 16, 2013 10:41 pm 


Jay rock

Arum said no three times come on know your facts! Writer sucks

Posted December 16, 2013 10:21 pm 


Floyd XYLOCAINE Mayweather

All I ask is level playing field and XYLOCAINE .

Posted December 16, 2013 10:15 pm 


lightsoutOhio

Who wins from all this corruption…Bob arum

Posted December 16, 2013 10:09 pm 


lightsoutOhio

Mayweather already stated he’s not fighting pacman period. Also years ago when mayweather vs pacman should of happen but di#kface Bob arum wanted the outdoor stadium BS. Mayweather stated than Bob arum would never make a penny off him. Now mayweather is still P4p king and well pacman is 1-2 in the last three fights. Only beating a B class fighter Rios – who should of never got that fight-Lost to Abril and another top stink mismatch (PPV #s showed this) As a boxing fan I like pacman but top stink did this to themselves- wanted no drug testing, then only match up there fighters against only top stink fighters and etc. Its not like pacman would be the only guy taking the drug test damn. The P4P king has moved on and so should the fans

Mayweather vs Sergio is the best fight out there @154

Top stink has been a big problem for the sport of boxing: with load gloves from marigacheater, bad judging from Abril vs Rios or Bradley getting a gift vs pacman, and a fighter that already failed a drug test oddly not getting tested -Chavez Jr. When Bob arum and WBC is gone…boxing will be better off!!

Posted December 16, 2013 10:06 pm 



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