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Hidalgo

“Garcia wants Pacquiao… and then Floyd… He wants Floyd at 147.”

Which Garcia? Mikey or Danny. If Danny, when did he say that?

Posted December 23, 2013 10:11 am 


TARK

Garcia wants Pacquiao… and then Floyd… He wants Floyd at 147.

Posted December 21, 2013 2:47 pm 


Hidalgo

“Manny Pacquiao is not on my level.”

Boy, I bet Pacquiao is bummed now.

Posted December 20, 2013 8:01 pm 


Yo MOMMA

Amir Khan is rated #17 at welterweight according to Boxrec.com.
He is BELOW:
Randall Bailey
Adrien Broner
Paulie Malignaggi
Devon Alexander
Keith Thurman
Shawn Porter
ROBERT GUERRERO
Marcos Maidana
JUAN MANUEL MARQUEZ
and TIMOTHY BRADLEY holds the #1 spot at welter. Oh and by the way Floyd is rated at Jr. MIDDLEWEIGHT since he fought Saul Canelo Alvarez.

Posted December 20, 2013 6:46 pm 


Hec Dog

hecubus my friend, yes there are other good fights out there for both Mayweather and Pacquiao, but they all fall short of what fans really want. Mayweather is making boxing fans bow down to him like he’s some kind of God. He is mocking everyone and most Mayweather fans are bowing down to his egotistical, arrogant, selfish demands, and will continue to buy his PPV as he laughs at them. Fans have so much more power and control of these fights, but don’t realize it. How shameful can Floyd Mayweather get. Fans have to go back and forth because this scared little kid wants to have control or who he fights rather than take input from his own fans as well as boxing fans in general. Floyd Mayweather does not own boxing. He is not bigger than the sport. All fans have to take a stand every now and then and let these self serving athlete know that they will not support the man regardless if you like him or not. Floyd tells you that he cherry picks and laughs his way to the bank. He says he loves his haters as well because they buy his PPV’s. Stop listening to this character and don’t buy his next PPV. Trust me, a clear message and impact will be made. If you don’t, that just proves Floyd right, and he will continue to dictate and laugh at fans all the way to the bank. How sad can this situation get. Floyd is acting like a little 2 year old because he dislikes another man and so he’s not going to come out and play. He is without a doubt the most insecure individual I have ever seen. He has all the money he needs. He has all the fame he will ever need. He has everything a worldly man can ever want. And still he continues to act his childish ways in front of the world. Floyd basically says that all his BS excuses have been just that, BS! Thee only real reason is because of Bob Arum. He’s been making up excuses all along, and now he finally comes clean. What Floyd needs more than anything is a P4P psychiatrist.

Posted December 20, 2013 4:07 pm 


kc

BOYCOTT ALL FUTURE FRAUD MAYPRETENDER MATCHES!!!

Posted December 20, 2013 3:07 pm 


Wolf

At one time I felt this was a pickem fight but Manny although still really good is not as good as he used to be. I see Floyd either dominating the fight and winning a large points or stopping Pacquiao. I give Manny almost no chance of winning.

Posted December 20, 2013 11:36 am 


SREDMOND

Bradley and FMJ are not boxing, Tims a TR fighter like Marquez and Cotto he would have to be outside that organization to get in position for a bout…

Posted December 20, 2013 11:29 am 


SREDMOND

Why the hell would Mayweather “drop weight” to fight Garcia? When he wanted Gattis crown he moved up, when he wanted Castillios he moved up, when he wanted Oscars and Canelos he moved up… Garcias a young guy done at 140 he can handle WW… I guess PAC should have moved down to face Rios coming off a loss??

Posted December 20, 2013 11:26 am 


Exiled Yank

I also don’t see Marvela or 3G dropping to 154.

Posted December 20, 2013 9:44 am 


Exiled Yank

Anonymous – Of the fighters you mentioned, Garcia is the best option, but only if FM drops in weight – which will never happen. Bradley is an option, but not one I’m interested in. My guess is that they will fight eventually because Bradley is the second best in the division (on paper) – but it will end in a lopsided decision. Khan is a farce and has been for years. Yes, these fights will make money, but they aren’t interesting. Garcia at 140 is interesting and FM can make weight with little effort – he fights below the WW limit for crying outloud! but FM won’t drop. Garcia coming up isn’t any good either. If Marvela or 3G droop to 154, those would be excellent matches, but I don’t think FM has any business going to 160.

Posted December 20, 2013 9:43 am 


Exiled Yank

Anonymous – I know boxing is a big business and PPV is a huge driver of it. I simply said I hate PPV and that it’s bad for boxing. I hate that I pay 50 to 60 bucks to watch a high profile fight. Also, most of the millions of people who by PPV fights have no idea about the fighters career, except the garbled up crap they get from sports center. Imagine if FM or MP decided to have some of their fights on regular cable and fight in a big arena somewhere. That would be great for the sport, but it won’t happen. I get that. I just think the sport could attract more actual fans if some of the big fights weren’t PPV. I totally understand the business side of it, I just think the business is bad for the sport. It’s all business that GBP fighters don’t face Arum fighters, or that Mayweather promotions don’t fight Arum fighters. It’s business as usual that has Showtime and HBO at a stand off. Business does not concern itself with the sport, but the sport can’t survive without the business.

Posted December 20, 2013 9:35 am 


SREDNOND

I think Manny will beat Floyd, having thought about it again.

Posted December 20, 2013 9:21 am 


Mohammed Izzaterd

Fkoyd is running from the Chinese dude Pacquiao.

Posted December 20, 2013 8:51 am 


Anonymous

Shut up FLOYD… You are a COWARD

Posted December 20, 2013 1:54 am 


Wut

Questions for anti-pacs (PEEJ, SRED etc.)
If he is not on his level, meaning this will be a VERY VERY easy fight for VERY VERY large amount of MONEY, why just not call him out and just whoop him? No arum/promoters bullcrap excuse. He said the fans want Canelo. This is the same FANS WANT PACQUIAO too right? Plus he is a mandatory if that would count.
No comparing of past fights just focus on today and the biggest fight that can be made.
On Mayweather’s side im thinking this could just be a way to increase interests again. Who knows this was the plan all along; Pac wins on April and May wins on May then Pac-May late 2014.
Pity these haters. Just enjoy boxing ffs.

Posted December 20, 2013 1:24 am 


Wut

Easy fight for Mayweather,

Posted December 20, 2013 1:14 am 


Pharmboxer

Void, Jr. is extremely afraid of Pac, which is the reason he refuses to fight Pac. Everyone wants to see such a fight, except Void and his blind (with hatred) fans.

Posted December 20, 2013 1:09 am 


Yo MOMMA

And yet Mayweather fought a bloated lightweight Marquez and came in over the limit (Mayweather) fighting Marquez as a Jr. middleweight. does no one seem to care?? How was that even a credible fight for the almighty and great Mayweather??

Posted December 19, 2013 11:27 pm 


SREDMOND

Argument I can’t respect

Posted December 19, 2013 11:23 pm 


SREDMOND

ADL, that’s not an argument I can respect basically you admit that Pacs style is inferior to Mayweathers and you wanna penalize Floyd for being a better defender? That’s more of this Floyd’s waiting for Manny to rundown nonsense as if Mayweather is immune to the ravages of time…

Posted December 19, 2013 10:59 pm 


Shawn

Still making excuses to not fight Pac-man…..nice to see nothing changes when it comes to fighting Pac-man. The script is already written, we don’t need an interview to know what the answer (excuses) will be.

Posted December 19, 2013 10:59 pm 


Floyd XYLOCAINE Mayweather

money may come to a fighter who chooses the path of least resistance but not Glory.
When one has enough money then he wants glory but there will be no glory in floyd record.
Floyd craves Glory but does not have the guts to chase it…lets just say guts is not in her dna and on top of that god gave her weak hands.
One must feel sorry for him, in his muti milllion house he sits gloryless and he knows that we know that hence he is never at ease and we all can see that.

Posted December 19, 2013 10:21 pm 


ADL

If Manny is not on Floyds level than why not take that easy fight and in the process make way more money than he could fighting anyone else. Does Floyd really think everyone is stupid or is he stupid?

If Floyd fights Manny it will be the last fight where evan a small chance of losing his 0 would not cost him financially (In his mind), while taking the least amount of risk possible fighting the oldest Manny possible. Yes, I know Floyd is getting old too but age effects Floyds fighting style, hit and not be hit a lot less than Mannys wars.

Posted December 19, 2013 9:34 pm 


SREDMOND

Pacquiao fought Mosley WELL after Floyd had schooled him and taken the fight outta him… Shane was a RANKED fighter having defeated Margarito when Floyd took on the threat at some respectable odds 3-1 for Mayweather but the time he faced Manny they were 6 or 7 to 1 after Shane could not get a win against Mora and was schooled by FMJ…. AGAIN we will hear nonsense about a fighter that Mayweather faced FIRST, Floyd fought Cotto after he had ONLY won at 154 and had avenged the most bitter defeat of his career by TKO….

Posted December 19, 2013 8:58 pm 


carlos london

Forget who lost to who who figjt who and all the crap mayweather has no o e else that could beat him has a bigger chance then manny simple what is wrong with people people stop talking like mayweather no more excuse he is the champ undefeated fight manny if he is a true champ fight say yes first blood tests now ppv view and money fight manny fight the man fight him ! then if you beat him you are the greatest ever to box love so far! what is the problem with that mayweather and his supporters !

Posted December 19, 2013 8:54 pm 


SREDMOND

Mayweather is BEYOND what Manny can make now, Pacs fortunes are DOWN and the public is punishing his loss and his HANDPICKED competitor… Did you see that 475k PPV buys? not that many fewer than Marquez and Bradley who are NOT big draws…Floyd makes money BEYOND the purses, he gets so much from NOT having Arums 80 year old weiner in his rear its not even funny… Poor Pac Man is borrowing to make good on his promises to donate for the disaster in his native land… He will be boxing till he is 45 at this rate… SAD

Posted December 19, 2013 8:51 pm 


SREDMOND

Its funny how you do NOT note that Pacquiao beat Oscar AFTER Floyd and FMJ defeated him for the Jr MW Championship… Cotto is STILL NOT shot in the least… When FMJ beat him at 154 where he had NEVER lost the man had 2 losses ONE of them avenged so how does that brand him “Shot” Cotto has lost to 2 ATGS and 2 World Champions which is BETTER than the composition of the guys that Manny has lost to ie Rustico Torrecampo and Singsurat, a still GREAT but 40 year old Marquez capping his AZZZZ!

Posted December 19, 2013 8:45 pm 


carlos london

one more thing if mayweather agrees to fight manny that would even be the biggest pay day ever for him self never mind manny and not matter the out come mayweather would never ever get a bigger pay day in his life that is the most truthful thing that is fact! and one more thing broner he is finished he will never be undefeated he has been defeated and now he will never earn the same money he dreamed of makeing in a fight that mayweather has been makeing and doing! and if mayweather lost to manny he would have no choice but to retire because even him self at night knows and tells himself if he took that risk his big pay day days are over now everyone forget the gossip what iv said is all that mattes and is the truth that we all know even the great mayweather him self!

Posted December 19, 2013 8:44 pm 


I’m scared of an asian midget

look out the spin merchants are on their way. lmfao.

Posted December 19, 2013 8:38 pm 


carlos london

mayweather has so much money he is not far off from done in boxing same as manny if floyd really cares and be the greatest ever he should not even be mentioning ppv and money everyone wake up and look at the situation because mayweather is not fooling me and most people in there hearts that no matter if manny lost to mm manny is the biggest threat to mayweather more then any boxer out there and for mayweather to lose would be the end of him why because manny has nothing to lose he has allready lost! being a legend is nothing to do with how much you earn it’s about beating the best a who ever challenges untill there is no1 left that is a legend that is the best of the best!

Posted December 19, 2013 8:37 pm 


I’m scared of an asian midget

lmfao Floyd beat an oscar who’d lost 3 of his last 4 fights and lose 2 of his next 3. an oscar who was 3-4 in his last 7 fights – 2-5 if you count the sturm robbery – a semi-retired shot party hard part-timer oscar who fought just once in almost 3 years, seeing a measly 6 incomplete rounds of action.

the two fighters oscar beat during those last 7 fights of his career were a shot mayorga and stevie ”journeyman” fricken Forbes. and yet still that shell of oscar nearly beat him. lmfao at least pacquiao didn’t make the corpse of oscar look like he was brimming with life. he didn’t lose a single second of the fight and stopped oscar whereas oscar took floyd down to the wire and very nearly beat him. lmfao.

pacquiao destroyed a prime cotto, floyd got all he could handle against a shot one. at least pacquiao fought a prime cotto, chicken ass floyd lost his urge and went into hiding when cotto, margarito, p-willy, pacquiao, and sugar shane were still legitimate threats. floyd only surfaced when they’d beaten the pulp out of each other and the coast was clear.

pacquiao beat at hatton at his best weight, floyd dragged him up to a weight he should be 0-3 at. lmfao. and pacquiao disposed of hatton with ease. out cold courtesy of one left hand. goodnight vienna. floyd needed 10 rounds and the assistance of a dirty referee who wouldn’t let t-rex arms hatton get anywhere near him and made them fight on the outside where he stood zero chance of winning against an opponent with a much longer reach.

floyd fought a mosley who didn’t have his stamina pellets and whose tanks were dry after a few rounds. pacquiao beat power pellet mosley like he was his filipino step daddy. he dropped on his ass whereas clean mosley nearly knocked floyd out. lmfao.

pacquiao beat prime marquez at his best weight and when he was at his strongest . floyd fought a marquez who was jumping 2 divisions and had never fought at the weight before and one that already lost to pacquiao. and floyd didn’t even make the catch-weight rendering the contest null and void.

the marquez that knocked out pacquiao was not the same marquez that fought floyd and the pacquiao that got knocked out was nothing like the prime version. floyd’s still ducking that spent force pacquiao to this day. lmfao.

pacquiao’s fights against oscar, cotto, hatton, and mosley weren’t even competitive, whereas they all gave floyd all he could handle, even with the referee’s assistance in one of them. he damn well nearly lost to 2 of them. lmfao.

pacquiao makes it look easy against all their common opponents bar one and the only one of them which he didn’t was null and void due to floyd not making the catch-weight and dragging them up 2 divisions to a weight they’d never fought at before. that’s why they the started all the drug allegations. because pacquiao made it look easy against the same opponents who gave floyd hell.

pacquiao’s victories over barrera, morales, and marquez eclipse floyd’s entire smoke and mirrors career. pacquiao stepped in their against prime greats well over half a dozen times, floyd has never done it once. he still hasn’t done it once. pacquiao had no qualms about fighting against prime greats. he proved it many time whereas floyd is scared out of his wits at the notion of doing so. he’s proven this to be the case beyond any reasonable doubt and he will continue to do so until the day he retires.

barrera x 2, morales x 3, marquez x 4

match those names i double dare you lmfao

Posted December 19, 2013 8:30 pm 


Auzbox

Your right it’s just one I really want to see being 26 I missed alot of the great ones but I agree I can’t see it happening and it hurts boxing a little bit. Maybe there will be a miracle but till then I think we as all boxing fans are the losers in this

Posted December 19, 2013 8:28 pm 


SREDMOND

Auzbox, you are not a bad guy you are really dying to see this bout that said you gotta let it go… Schaefer and the rest are NOT looking to work together its a non starter…

Posted December 19, 2013 8:22 pm 


SREDMOND

Floyd and Ali have different metrics to measure one is HW Champ during an era when there were NOT 45 belts the other is a multi-weight Champ who is undefeated thru 5 weight classes something that in 100 years of boxing has NEVER happened before… Haglers losses were NOT all to GREAT fighters that’s nonsense… Hearns was knocked out by Iran Barkley at 29 years old and Golovkin does NOT belong in the convo he is NOT even facing World Class fighters and is just a highly touted upstart padding his resume…Guerrero was a MUCH better opponent than Rios …He was a mandatory, he had NOT lost in YEARs, he had titles in multiple divisions and he came to 147 defeated 2 World Class boxers one of whom was a 2 time World Champ during an upset… What did Rios do to fight Pac Man??? Moved up in weight, and he LOST to Mike Alvarado….oooohhhh I forgot he also was not gonna present any technical challenges to Pac Man…

Posted December 19, 2013 8:20 pm 


SREDMOND

AGAIN I don’t see a 50/50 fight between Floyd and Manny that said I would give Pac a 30% chance of prevailing… He is just made for Floyd and he does not even have his prior ferocity even though he is the YOUNGER man… Marquez I believe took something from him that I saw against Rios, he had the man somewhat hurt and backed off…He has failed to finish several opponents and engages in serial glove touching as opposed to being the fighter that beat Barrera like he had stolen from his child…Again the public would NOT see this as a 50/50 fight and if you don’t like seeing bouts where you think another fighter does not have much of a chance why did you watch Rios? or did you think that Brandon Rios who lost to Alvarado and really Molina was a serious threat to Pacquiao????? Would you respect Floyd for facing Rios??

Posted December 19, 2013 8:14 pm 


Auzbox

Are you trying to say floyd is better then Ali. Hagler lost because of greats in there prime, I can’t agree that floyd beat them all and hold him up where you guys do until manny is in the win column. I’m not holding out thinking that we will see it or it will be in 2-3 years when it really means nothing. No rios wouldn’t fight floyd but floyd couldn’t hurt him. Guerro should not have fought him neither should khan

Posted December 19, 2013 8:13 pm 


SREDMOND

Auzbox, you misunderstand, I meant that Brandon Rios would not be an acceptable opponent for Floyd Mayweather… Pac Man would be a fight I would LOVE to see but due to business reality its not happening….Pac Mans accomplishments brand him an ATG in my book as do Mayweathers… That said Mayweather’s dominance across the weight classes is unrivaled, he has NOT been defeated in 5 weight classes winning 4 lineal Championships… Pac Man has been stopped 3x, LOST and had Draws… Ray Leonard and Hearns could not accomplish what Floyd has… AGAIN people are chasing Floyds 0 like virgins cherry, Manny on the other hand has already been “banged” so even though its some good coochie it has been had>>>!

Posted December 19, 2013 8:08 pm 


auzbox

Money might pay the bills and nice things but the argument of who is better in the end will be decided on whats achieved in the sport of boxing and not whos above it. This theory that one or another is bigger than titles is a joke, the titles are the foundation in what we all love in the sport and who is the champ. We are getting away from what we think and what should happen. Im sure you don’t want to pay to see another fight that is a whitewash the same as all of golovkins. Im sick of it I want to see the big ones where its 50/50 not being able to sleep cause we know tomorrow the biggest fight we have ever seen is live and we are going to witness it

Posted December 19, 2013 8:05 pm 


auzbox

Not the comp for mayweather you say then who is. The guy that is going to finish with the most titles in divisions in history or are you Floyd guys going to keep letting him pick journeymen?

Posted December 19, 2013 8:00 pm 


auzbox

I ask you this sredmond who is better alior Marciano. Ali all day. The 0 means nothing only to ducky. Manny will fiish with more titles in more divisions and no fighter is bigger than the titles

Posted December 19, 2013 7:59 pm 


SREDMOND

Auzbox, I am fair I am not gonna pretend I think that Bradley beat Manny because I don’t… But YES we are gonna discuss him getting knocked out!! I know its hard to defend a 6 rounder where he was DOWN from a single shot then OUT cold from a single shot but it happened… Mix that with Marquez 3 where he was a 7-1 underdog who grossly underperformed and we have the portrait of a boxer having issues… So much so that you are giving him an overabundance for beating a known punching bag like Rios coming up in weight… AGAIN he did very good in his REHAB bout but this is not the kind of Comp that resonates with Floyd Mayweather Jr….

Posted December 19, 2013 7:57 pm 


SREDMOND

We all know that Khan would be a money fight, Floyd just fought the opponent the public wanted him to as reflected in the bout being the biggest in history… Manny fought Shane Mosley after he had NOT won in 2 bouts starting of course with FMJ ending his winning streak and Shane failing to handle Sergio NO POWER Mora… Pac Man has not faced a physical threat like Canelo in YEARS a YOUNG, STRONG UNDEFEATED BIGGER Champion… He worked over a pudgy, beat up Brandon Rios who has a TON of miles on him…

Posted December 19, 2013 7:55 pm 


auzbox

I floored your other opponent argument one of floyds wins had beaten manny yet all the other got knocked out or whipped better. 1 fight you came up with one fight hahahahaha

Posted December 19, 2013 7:53 pm 


auzbox

All you floydheads ever goon about is him being caught and then the Bradley fight where manny landed more than 90 more punches than Bradley so go figure

Posted December 19, 2013 7:52 pm 


SREDMOND

Auzbox, show me where I EVER picked Rios to beat Pacquiao? and the experts had Manny as the favorite and with damn good reason.. Your answer is inadequate but alas you are performing up to your capability in this regard… Bob Arum basically said that if Manny cannot get past this guy then he is done as did Roach because Rios was an UTTERLY beatable opponent that would NEVER be allowed to share a ring with Mayweather coming up in weight and off a loss… THAT was a handpicked opponent for Pac which I understood because we needed to see if Pacs brain had healed…

Posted December 19, 2013 7:51 pm 


auzbox

Lets see him pick khan next sredmond then I can well we can all laugh on you floydheads cause well what a worthy opponent was kod by Garcia that has no power like pac and has been knocked senseless by a journymen brit to

Posted December 19, 2013 7:51 pm 


auzbox

Its funny you say manny was smashed by 1 only one hahahahahahaha manny whipped 4-5 of the same mayweathers opponents so laugh is on you

Posted December 19, 2013 7:49 pm 


SREDMOND

REM, this bout has been discussed since 2010 and the public is STILL lining Floyds pockets had Manny NOT lost and looked bad in the 3rd Marquez the bout would still have peak buzz if not more but he did and the perception of his chances plummeted..The public bought into a new gladiator that might give Mayweather a run for his money in young Alvarez, they ponied up $150 mill to see if something different could happen and it didn’t… Manny getting UD’s over guys like Rios is not gonna restore the fever he would need a dramatic KO of Bradley or something over the top to make people really think “Maybe this is the guy” this fight is still discussed because these dudes are the most popular in the sport but its stale dated and perceptions have shifted..

Posted December 19, 2013 7:48 pm 


auzbox

I take it your not an expert sredmond and a lot of the experts in boxing said picking rios was a bad idea for manny so now after its done you say it was hand picked yet before it ylou would have been one of the ones saying pac was going to be beaten

Posted December 19, 2013 7:47 pm 


auzbox

jmm was a slow sluggish fighter mayweather made him gain 10 pounds so that one is floored. And all time greats like the sugar ray, duran, haggler, hearns all fough eachother not cherrypicker cause the best competition is many. and if your a true boxing guy you know it doesn’t matter if what he did to jmm cause pac has damaged more than floyds opponants better starting with cotto

Posted December 19, 2013 7:45 pm 


REM

Sad but true I don’t think the public forgets this easily. Truly sad for the future of boxing thing is all those that came before paved the way for this kind of sucsess but now the public will be so turned off if these 2 retire without fighting boxing will decline in popularity. And I blame Floyd lol.

Posted December 19, 2013 7:36 pm 


SREDMOND

Auzbox “Handpicked” is the EPITOME of what Brandon Rios was coming off a loss and coming up in weight… Arum discussed needing a guy who was “gonna come forward” and not present much in the way of ring smarts and who better to fit the bill than Brandon BAM BAM Rios who graduated Magna Cum Laude from Antonio Margarito University of face first defense!!! That was a “Handpicked opponent” he had NO wins at the weight, he was coming of a loss and his style was about 1000 miles from Marquez who had the skills to capitalize on mistakes..

Posted December 19, 2013 7:31 pm 


SREDMOND

AuzBox, Floyd is not just “Great” hes an ATG or All Time GREAT….. If you are saying his opponents are “handpicked” then you must be discussing Oscar, Cotto Mosley, Hatton, and Marquez who are all common opponents of these guys… 3 of them Floyd beat FIRST and Marquez who he defeated when JMM was fresher, meanwhile Manny was smashed by the same fighter when he was just about to get is AARP card at 40!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

Posted December 19, 2013 7:26 pm 


SREDMOND

Auzbox, Manny has been in more events YET is the lessor in terms of PPV success and average takedown per bout… Mayweather did almost did MORE revenue and PPV’s with one contest than Manny did with 3, lets look at the numbers Canelo 2.2 mill vs Pac Man 475k Rios, 1.1mill Marquez, and 700k Bradley that’s around 2.3 million in 3 events… Manny can fight as often as he likes the man cannot draw like Floyd Mayweather and having 2 of his last 3 contests do WELL under 1 million buys clearly demonstrates who is the BOSS… Mayweathers 4th biggest PPV (Mosley 1.4mill) is equal to Mannys BEST (Marquez 3 which was 1.4 mill)…. Floyd has Cotto 1.5 mill, Canelo 2.2 mill and Oscar 2.7 mill…. AND Mayweather is charging more for his contests and folks are breaking off that cake!! HBO stated that Pacs fight in Macau did around 30 mill in revenue, meanwhile Mayweather had a guarantee of 41.5 mill BEFORE PPV against Canelo… Soooooo Mayweather made 11.5 million more on his BASE salary than Pacquiaos ENTIRE event generated in PPV sales according to HBO execs…..DAAAAAAAAAAAMMMNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN The public has SPOKEN “Floyds a BAD BAD MAN””””

Posted December 19, 2013 7:20 pm 


Auzbox

That’s ok sredmomd but use truth in arguments and don’t call him great cause he will never be the stars that have been and don’t use weight as an excuse cause that just don’t cut it, whether it happens or not surely 50percent of us are going to go one way and the rest the other. Till then manny is better for me always had been and always will be whether he loses 10 in a row or not- atleast they won’t be hand picked!

Posted December 19, 2013 7:17 pm 


SREDMOND

Swedish Boxing Fan, Auzbox and REM you guys need to form a support group for posters who cannot accept and get over the fact that Mayweather vs Pacquiao is NEVER gonna happen!!! The fight has the SLIMMEST shot later in the year after Manny fights in April, and Floyd in May…. Assuming things remain status quo and it does not happen in 2014 who would really care anyway? Floyd will be 38 and Manny 36, we will have been discussing this bout for 5 years by then that’s half of a decade. Both guys are still making $$$$, Floyd a TON more but alas a lot of folks have moved on perhaps its time to join that crowd… Each side is immune to public pressure, Bob Arum whos fighters fortunes are waning has not made a sincere effort to broker a deal aside from pairing Mayweather and Pac verbally FALSELY instilling hope that his next series of bouts is leading to this clash…. Hating either fighter is not gonna change this matter, when the pot was $25 mill guaranteed apiece they could not do it and those paydays were huge then…NOW Mayweather is raking in so much cash that its not a scenario where he has to work with Bob Arum to make 30mill plus PPV upside… AGAIN its time to get over this and accept that Floyd and Mannys future losses and wins will come to fighters other than eachother

Posted December 19, 2013 7:11 pm 


Jeep

Pacman should fight Guerrero and then Canelo next and use it as a measuring fight to see how Pacman stack up against Floyd. Since Floyd is still scared to fight Pacman.

Posted December 19, 2013 7:05 pm 


REM

Who would deny themselves 100 mil over a petty business dispute thats not cutting off your nose to spite your face thats cutting off your head. No no no its just b.s. at its worst.

Posted December 19, 2013 7:00 pm 


Swedish Boxing Fan

This is some more bull s#it from “Pretty Boy” Floytd Mayweather Jr. Seriusly why is the fighter still around with his bad image that makes a little baby to cry? I’m so sick tired of Floyd Mayweather Jr’s GIANT EGO to death. He makes all real boxing fans sick with not only his incredible GREED but ALSO how he trash talk other fighters that they are less worth and “Don’t” sell etc. SHUT THE F£CK UP Floyd Mayweather Jr, Now I have had it with this punk.

All fans want to see Mayweather Jr vs Manny Paquiao and the fight will be a BIG seller – WE ALL know that very well.

This is another bad and sad ezcuse from Floyd Mayweather Jr in the long road now. So fighting a over-hyped and glass jaw Amir Khan is better then Paquiao? Now this is another point of how scared Mayweather Jr is to fight a fighter that can hurt his precius little “0″ on his paper record.

Then fight Bernard Hopkins then at middleweikght level if you want a selling fight. Fight the old legend if Manny “Pac-Man” Paquioa is to much.

People, how much of this are we put up to take? There have never been such a EGO fighter in modern time as Mayweather Jr and I wan’t him knocked down to the canvass hard now.

Posted December 19, 2013 6:53 pm 


REM

After fighting Pac….

Posted December 19, 2013 6:49 pm 


Hec Dog

The Mayweathers sure helped improve Hatton and Oscar. Both lost. They have no one to prove their worth as boxing trainers. Broner would be just another pawn for them.

Back to the Floyd Mayweather/Manny Pacquiao issue. Look, regardless of what the reasons Floyd has used not to fight Manny Pacquiao, which are Many and Bob Arum’s dislike for Floyd and Oscar, the fall out of all this will hurt Floyd much, much worse. The boxing public already has the perception that Floyd is afraid to fight Manny (IMHO, this is true). Manny is the Predator chasing the Prey, which is Floyd. He is losing more credibility every time he opens his mouth to the media. He puts out these ridiculous videos in an attempt to justify why he won’t fight Manny Pacquiao. He actually believes that the public will accept his “My PPV numbers are better” so he doesn’t deserve a fight with me, then he is supposedly going to fight Amir Khan? We’re not talking about the past, w’re talking about today. If Floyd truly believes he can beat Manny, just make the fight. It’s not about money, it’s about Floyd being humble and fighting a man that he says isn’t even in his league. Forget Arum. Do a 50/50 split and give the public what they want. Put the oversize ego down and prove to the world that you can beat Manny Pacquiao. Trust me, there’s more than enough money to go around. Manny, as I said is doing all the chasing. He agrees to everything in his recent interview, but Floyd is still out there trying to create more obstacles. Even if Floyd brings in more PPV, who cares. Manny would still be the number 2 highest PPV generator in boxing. Floyd Mayweather cannot and will not distance himself from Manny Pacquiao until he finds the courage and confidence to fight him. It’s not Manny Pacquiao’s reputation and legacy on the line, it’s Floyd’s. These irrational excuses like “manny is 1-2 in his last 3 fights” is a laughable excuse for Floyd to use for not wanting to fight Manny. To sum this all up in a few words, Floyd Mayweather desperately needs Manny Pacquiao to legitimize his own legacy in boxing. Manny’s is already cemented. Manny’s the best.

Posted December 19, 2013 6:48 pm 


REM

Its sad how Floyd can avoid a fighter who is nothing like hes hes ever faced before and continue to be in the position hes in. No one Floyd’s ever fought brings the physical tools Pac brings to the ring yet hes tossed in with the rest of the pack as if anyone has come close to accomplishing what he has.This is b.s. at its worst how convenient that there’s so many issues making a fight with a freakishly gifted fighter who attacks in the stance known to have more sucsess penetrating Floyds defense than its opposite. I just want Pac, Lara and Martinez are significantly bigger than Floyd so only so much credit can be given if they got the opopportunity to prove my theory correct. To hell with public perception I think Floyd clearly understands Pac is a nightmare matchup for him and isnt confident he will leave the ring after a fighting Pac with his invincible aura intact. Pac is none of the those other fighters Floyd has beaten its not even close. Yeah Marquez beat Pac but did he storm ww like Pac no he was soundly beaten by Bradley who most feel Pac dominated while in cruise control.

Posted December 19, 2013 6:47 pm 


auzbox

sredmond he has learned after jail. You got to be kidding he was in there for 90 days don’t compare it to tysons time. A great matchmaker he is not he has proven that time and time again. He carefully picks opponents as is shown in how many ppv fights he has been in its about 6-7 less than pac and remember he is older

Posted December 19, 2013 6:38 pm 


Old Coot

PROVE IT!!… Just shut dafuq up and PROVE IT ALREADY. Enough slick verbal tactics and prima-donna drama dude… Because no matter what you say or how much you try, you can’t beat Manny by your and your fans’ opinions fool!!

Posted December 19, 2013 6:32 pm 


Old Coot

Yeah… Pac-man is not a boring conman. So no, he’s not.

Posted December 19, 2013 6:28 pm 


Auzbox

Sredmomd any argument that floyd has been at welter longer is ridiculous of coarse he has manny had to weight his pants for his first fight, he is lighter than mayweather and naturally now could fight at 140. Sick of all these excuses, the time is now. Great champions fight great fighters. As I said yesterday, who was haglers last fight, or sugar rays last few fights- against great competition not an easy ending. No fighter in history has earned that!

Posted December 19, 2013 6:24 pm 


A Mere Con

FM is years past his prime, but no one seems to notice that.

Posted December 19, 2013 6:20 pm 


SUP YALL

” All roads lead to Mayweather” thats true thats why he calls the shots not Manny. So that tells you he is INDEED holding up negotiations. His excuse “Arum”, if that is the case then pay him off and remove him from the equation. Make the fight happen Floyd. The truth is he doesnt want to fight Pacquioa that is clear. Pacquioa is always calling him out and Mayweather always saying ok BUT>>>>>>> and the list goes on…. and on….it alwasy a “BUT” with Mayweather.

Posted December 19, 2013 6:08 pm 


Roy Barnes

yes true Tomato

Posted December 19, 2013 5:58 pm 


deepwater1234

yup, manny could knock out a wife if he wanted floyd couldn’t so he is right about that

Posted December 19, 2013 5:48 pm 


SREDMOND

Tomato Can makes a good point, Mayweather has something to sell that Pacquiao simply does that, its like any athlete in striking distance of a record or on an epic streak.. Some want to see Floyd keep booking wins and some wanna see if and when he finally gets knocked off… His continued wins at this level of boxing defy conventional wisdom and thus are analyzed and passed off by the woefully ignorant as him being the GREATEST matchmaker in history able to account for EVERY variable in the ring and having the most intimate knowledge of his opponents mental, emotional and physical weakness, hell he even knows when their women are on the RAG and thus schedules his fights when the opponents are subject to maximum aggravation… He has learned (Unlike Tyson) that boxing before and after jail is the BEST way to assure victories blah, blah, blah…. As long he has that 0 folks are gonna turn out in droves to see Money May, Manny got a RUDE awakening as to what losing, weak cards and not promoting adequately in the US can do to your bankability…

Posted December 19, 2013 5:29 pm 


Tomato Can

Barnes, that’s the enigma about Mayweather, everyone is currious who’ll beat him. Which is why you’re posting on this site right now. Mayweather’s got you sold hook, line, and sinker….

Posted December 19, 2013 5:14 pm 


SREDMOND

REM, you are ALL OVER the place trying to create a perceptual threat level that does not exist as it pertains to Manny beating Floyd… In the world of sport anything is possible and theoretically Manny could stop Floyd in the first min of the first round… That said we discuss probabilities and opinions you can believe with all your heart that Pac Man would prevail but the fact is he is simply NOT seen as the same threat or menace to Floyd Mayweathers unbeaten dominance… You are left to discuss theoretical losses while we have REAL losses of Mannys to discuss… We know Pac Man can be beaten because we have all seen it…. Why would we think the same fighter that could not stop Margarito, Clottey, Mosley, Rios, Marquez 2x and Bradley is gonna come in and KO Floyd Mayweather? Pac Man is not a big puncher at 147, he is a solid puncher….YOU said that Floyd has let Manny age, so why are you so hard up to see a “declined fighter” face an older boxer who you say has been in a cryogenic chamber or some equivalent?? This fight is not happening and sooner or later you have to adjust… FACT is that each time he steps in the ring Pac is in MORE danger than Floyd because Mayweather is a BETTER technical fighter and defender… I doubt Pac wins 4 bouts in a row again, that’s a stretch even for FMJ who will be 39 when he completes his contract… But time is against your man even more because he takes more punches and you KNOW this… A loss to a B plus fighter or anyone else officially ends this conversation and due to todays boxing politics this theory is gonna get put to the test…

Posted December 19, 2013 5:13 pm 


Anonymous

Yank Floyd will never run out of opponets, PPv is gambling and Vegas runs boxing. its a multi- billion dollar industry, Floyd is not in the hood fightung for bragging right Boxing is big buisness. You hate ppvs I bet you wouldnt say that if you worked in vegas, Which employs millions of people on fights and events leading up to it, Floyd Only has four more fight he can fight Kahn another 100 mil then Garcia then Miadana or thurman ,Bradley and than 500 mil easy, Manny has what two fight maybe and will end up broke, rememebr he is 50 million in the hole with the IRS,

Posted December 19, 2013 5:12 pm 


Roy Barnes

Exiled Yank I dont think that PPV was just about Mayweather or Canelo i think it was about people curious to see a undefeated fighter like Canelo perhaps have a chance of beating Mayweather who is also undefeated.. I think thats were the draw came from not nessalrily of either or person but both with 0 losses and someone will lose.

Posted December 19, 2013 5:12 pm 


Exiled Yank

And I hate PPV! I think it is terrible for boxing.

Posted December 19, 2013 5:03 pm 


Exiled Yank

Canelo has not done any PPV that compare to FM. Come on, man. That doesn’t hold water.

Posted December 19, 2013 5:00 pm 


Exiled Yank

REM – I’m right there with you. These guys should have fought in 2010. It’s pathetic all the things they’ve done to keep it from happening. Now MP has two losses (one is bs), and FM is running out of legitimate options. I’m like you, it pisses me off.

Posted December 19, 2013 4:59 pm 


Roy Barnes

Exiled Yank – The Hispanic fan base is huge and even reaches to brazil. Canelo is well known and attracts a huge crowd thus more PPV’s

Posted December 19, 2013 4:58 pm 


PEEJ

I also think Pac won the first 2 fights. But he clearly lost the last 2 fights.

Posted December 19, 2013 4:56 pm 


Exiled Yank

Barnes, I get that MPs style is more popular with fans. I have never denied that. But why is FM killing him on PPV? Honestly, we all know Canelo didn’t have that big of a fan base. DLH, yes. Canelo, no.

Posted December 19, 2013 4:56 pm 


REM

Exiled Yank outside of Floyd avoiding Pac i admire him and watch him with my notebook out. I just hate him for not giving me the epic Pac fight it might sound personal but its not. I do the same thing with Canelo I actually like him but he needs to be thoroughly criticized for beating up on jrww/wws. I even criticized Pac and Arum for the afraid of needles and the cut not being healed in time comments I just can’t stand b.s. but no your not the only boxing fan.

Posted December 19, 2013 4:55 pm 


Roy Barnes

Exiled Yank – no doubt both Mp and MW are great fighters but if you had to do a survey of which fighter to watch majority of the people would watch Manny. I watch the fights at a Casino. They have it wide screen for free. When ever Floyd fights it a big crowd when Manny fights lets put it this way you can barely walked thru the walkways theres so many people. Manny is just a more exciting fighter to watch.

Posted December 19, 2013 4:53 pm 


Exiled Yank

Peej – I thought MP won the first and second too. All the fights were close until the last one. Man, that was an amazing punch.

Posted December 19, 2013 4:53 pm 


Exiled Yank

All this he said she said crap aside, FM is acting like a scared little girl with MP. I say FM will school him, but he is running out of reasons to fight him. Guerrero was his mandatory and he said he had to fight him. He fought Canelo because the fans wanted it. Well, MP is his mandatory and the fans want it. It’s time to make it happen. And he will become a joke if he fights Khan instead of MP. Talk about someone who isn’t on his level.

Posted December 19, 2013 4:51 pm 


PEEJ

Marquez clearly beat Pac in the 3rd fight.

Posted December 19, 2013 4:49 pm 


Exiled Yank

Barnes – again, FM is old. He’s in his late 30s now. How come all these young fighters can’t beat him? If they do, wil they be discredited for beating an old fighter too? I doubt it, because FM is the champ, just like Cotto, SSM, and DLH were when he beat them. And he went up in weight to fight two of them.

Posted December 19, 2013 4:49 pm 


REM

Mansworld in those last 3 fights I have Pac winning 27 of those 30 rnds. Explosive enough to do that lol.

Posted December 19, 2013 4:47 pm 


Exiled Yank

Barnes – RH went straight at MP and walked right into the hornets nest. It was the perfect fight for MP. Plus RH had already been pummeled for 10 straight rounds by FM. I never denied that they were old, I simply pointed out that MP isn’t the almighty perfect fighter you make him out to be. Margo was damaged by SSM, DLH was even older, Cotto was weight drained and damaged by Margo… That crap aside, Cotto was the 154 lb champ when FM beat him at 154, DLH was too, and SSM had just destroyed Margo who was supposedly the most feared and avoided boxer in the world and FM whipped him. Facts are facts. Yes, Cotto was past his prime, so was DLH and SSM. You simply refuse to see that MP fights damaged fighters too. As for who knocked who out sooner, it’s all about styles. Some styles are flashy with KOs, others are methodical and slick. I enjoy all… except Wlad. That dude could induce a coma.

Posted December 19, 2013 4:46 pm 


PEEJ

Pac did have his chance in 2010 but then declined with a bunch of excuses. Terrible.

Posted December 19, 2013 4:40 pm 


Exiled Yank

Neither Pac or FM will be truly appreciated until they are long retired. Then people will say that they were the special ones and we were lucky to see them fight.

Posted December 19, 2013 4:39 pm 


Roy Barnes

Exiled Yank – MP destroyed Hatton were it took Floyd many rounds to do. MP beat the crude out of Cotto that Floyd can barely do. I will not give credit of MP wins over DLH and Mosely like you are Exiled Yank I mean come on Floyd fought those 2 when there old dispite you saying they came off wins. Old is old. Floyd fighting DLH and Mosley when they were young is a totally different story. Just like Floyd waiting for Paq to get ring worn and old. It a typical Mayweather family set up and I hope Manny doesnt bite. FLOYD HAD HIS CHANCE IN 2010 !!!!!!!!

Posted December 19, 2013 4:39 pm 


Exiled Yank

REM – your’e complaining about styles and nothing more. Styles don’t make one fighter great and another a scrub, they are simply styles. And as far as that goes, MP’s style hasn’t made him more marketable than FM… just compare PPV numbers. I respect both fighters for what they bring to the ring, and I consider them both to be modern greats. Evidently I’m strange because I like and enjoy both of them. Jeez, you mean someone can actually be a fan of boxing!? Who would have ever imagined such a travesty!?

Posted December 19, 2013 4:35 pm 


mansworld

Rem what happened to Mannys explosiveness against Bradley, Marquez and Rios, he didnt K.O. none of these guys, People dont judge you on the past but the presents, How can Floyd be scared of a guy thats been Knocked out 3 times? At 37 floyds better than he was at 27, and has yet to touch the canvas 46 have tried 46 have failed/

Posted December 19, 2013 4:35 pm 


eric

Who cares about all of this, lets just get floyd and manny in the ring in 2014 and let them sort it out man to man. Then we dont have to sit around debating whos the best. Ofcourse there will be ligit agrument s asto if the fight took place 5 years ago the outcome could have been diffrent but life has no rewind button so we cant go back in time unless sedrem has a connection s to Michael j fox and his time machine.

Debating is fun but this is the longest debate in boxing that I can remember.

Floyd and manny just fight each other, you are boxers if infact you haven’t relize d that.

Posted December 19, 2013 4:33 pm 


REM

SRed those guys were smaller and far less athletic. Now I only criticize the Marquez matchup because Floyd didn’t make weight Marquez is a bona fide atg and the best lw of his era while he campaigned there. Hatton got whooped by Collazo right before Floyd so that tells you what I think of that matchup it had no impact on boxing rankings and was purely a money fight for the uninformed. Bottom line neither one brings half the agility and explosiveness Pac brings thats why those fights happened and the Pac fight has yet to.

Posted December 19, 2013 4:27 pm 


SREDMOND

Exiled Yank, you have it all wrong next they will say that Mayweather is a Vampire, or Jacob from Twilight! he does NOT get OLD or injured he is in the same condition he was at 21 years old and he simply lets his younger opponents age while drinking their blood in the ring to stay youthful… I would not be surprised to see Hecdog or REM sell that one….

Posted December 19, 2013 4:24 pm 


Exiled Yank

FM is years past his prime, but no one seems to notice that.

Posted December 19, 2013 4:21 pm 


PEEJ

Well apparently being boring has kept Floyd from being KOd, taking L’s, sells more PPVs and makes much much more money. Hmmmmm, sounds like Floyd has the better formula.

Posted December 19, 2013 4:17 pm 


SREDMOND

Guys LOVE to BASH Mayweather YET they pretend is “Prime” is NEVERENDING… Floyd is one of the Oldest World Champions in the sport today holding REAL titles in 2 weight classes, he turns 37 in February and his last several opponents have been PLENTY younger, Canelo 13 years, Guerrero 7 years, Cotto, 4 years Ortiz 10 years YET guys wanna pretend that its a 25 year old Floyd in the ring with guys who pushing 60… GTFOH Mayweather has been winning in his 30′s and he is on the wrong side of 35 with some of you creeps still making excuses for every YOUNG guy that cannot fulfill your dreams of seeing him dead on the Canvas… If you are gonna call Floyds opponents elderly and pass of their defeats as mere cherrypicking then we GOTTA take a HARD look at Pac Man who fought Hatton, Oscar, and Mosley AFTER Mayweather, he was knocked out by Marquez YEARS after Mayweather took 12 rounds off him…So if guys are gonna give Floyd all this grief for facing guys who are comparably aged or YOUNGER than him how hard should we be on Manny for getting DROPPED by a boxer that was just shy of 40 which is ancient in boxing… Very next fight he was getting outboxed by Timmy Bradley without incident… AGAIN the Mayweather brand of excellence is intact while Manny is realistically NEVER gonna enjoy the same aura of invincibility after getting starched and NOT starching another boxer in 4 years…

Posted December 19, 2013 4:16 pm 


Tomato Can

I liked Gatti, but to even mention him has having a chance to beat Mayweather when he was younger is laughable.. Sorry man..

Posted December 19, 2013 4:12 pm 


Tomato Can

Exiled Yank, good posts, but as you see some fans refuse to acknowledge the Arum factor. They never mention that everyone Manny has faced for the past 5 years has been an Arum fighter. Just the same they refuse to realize that Mayweather hasn’t faced an Arum fighter since they departed ways…

Posted December 19, 2013 4:11 pm 


Jeep

Peej- who cares what your saying. When Floyd fought what Pacman fought, the clear difference is the excitement of the fight! Boring Mayweather will never be as exciting and entertaining boxer inside the square circle.

Posted December 19, 2013 4:09 pm 


Exiled Yank

George – Arum would not let a prime Cotto near FM. DLH and SSM were both fighting at 147 and 154 while FM was at 130 and 135. Gatti would have never beaten FM no matter when they fought.

Posted December 19, 2013 4:05 pm 


PEEJ

Pac lost to Morales when Morales was in his prime. Fought Bradley in his prime and lost to him. Fought Cotto after Margacheato already beat him and since Pactoids like to constantly point that out because Floyd beat him then you can’t say he was in his prime when Pac beat him. And just like Cotto, Floyd already beat Hatton and knocked him out first. Not to mention Hatton wasn’t even training right for his fight with Pac. Who cares if he beat up on Diaz, Gatti would of whooped Diaz and Floyd beat up on Gatti. Barrera was also no longer in his prime. And Floyd beat Oscar and Mosley when they both where coming off very good wins. Sorry but Floyds record is better than Pacs.

Posted December 19, 2013 4:02 pm 


SREDMOND

*Elevate Pacquiaos chances… Pacquiao did defeat Cotto and Oscar AFTER Floyd and he was more violent but the net result is Floyd winning NOW lets look at how Manny LOSES because we have no precedent for Mayweather undergoing that experience…Pac Man has lost to Erik Morales who was a courageous battler up till Pac snatched his balls the second time out… He was STOPPED 3x…. Hmmmmmmmmmm Pacs nemesis the guy who basically derailed his train, sent him to fight a losing fighter in China is a guy that Floyd won 12 EASY rounds off of and like REM says this guy had the advantage because he is smaller than Mayweather this is a again based on the STANCE of REM in the post below… (He will Waffle)….At the end of the day Floyd DOMINATES his opponents and does not have hiccups TRUST me Manny would trade his couple TKO’s above 140 for NOT getting KOed by Marquez…

Posted December 19, 2013 4:02 pm 


Exiled Yank

Barnes – if you’re going to post stuff like that, be true about it. Hatton was not in his prime, FM had clobbered him. Plus RH refused to fight FM at 140 when they were in the same division, so FM made him move up when RH finally grew a pair – seems fair. Cotto was weight drained with MP and FM fought him at a more natural weight where he was champ. Canelo is far from one dimensional watch the Trout fight. DLH was older, but he was even older and dehydrated when MP got him. Margo was not in his prime, he was also coming off a long suspension and a solid thumping from SSM. SSM was the man of the division when FM beat him – yes, he was an old man, but he had just destroyed the dangerous Margo. Both guys have solid wins both guys have fought guys that were past their primes or lesser opponents. If you’re going to post crap like that, at least have the decency to acknowledge both sides, otherwise you look like a nuthugger and lose any credibility.

Posted December 19, 2013 3:59 pm 


Tomato Can

REM, Perhap’s you’re right. Hopefully we’ll find out some day. But as it stands Manny has more to gain from the fight than Mayweather. He’ll get a pass win or lose.

Posted December 19, 2013 3:57 pm 


SREDMOND

OK REM “if it helps to be smaller than Floyd” then I guess that Marquez and Hatton had the advantage and thus Mayweather should be afforded even MORE credit for handing BOTH the MOST decisive loss either man had experienced at that point?? AGAIN I know you will wiggle and try and spin your statement but you have AGAIN betrayed your constantly shifting stances in an attempt to elevate Mayweather chances while downplaying his prior deposed competition… Damn I am SHARP…This TOTALLY removes any credibility you have as it pertains to selling Floyd as picking on smaller guys! You basically said “The Smaller the Better”

Posted December 19, 2013 3:55 pm 


Tomato Can

Not quite Anonymous… Just look at any ranking list..

Posted December 19, 2013 3:50 pm 


REM

Imo it helps to be smaller than Floyd because hes so athletic you need to be able to match his athleticism. A smaller fighter has a better chance of having the nessesary athleticism. If your not athletic you have no chance because of Floyds i.q combined with as much agility as anyone in the sport. A small fighter also gives Floyd the urge to lean straight back instead of rolling under.

Posted December 19, 2013 3:48 pm 


Anonymous

Cue PEEJ with a list of excuses defending the bruthaman 1, 2, 3, 4…

Posted December 19, 2013 3:44 pm 


Anonymous

Paquiao fought better fighter, Paquiao fought world class champions. Paquiao is the all around better fighter and more exciting to watch than Floyd hands down.

Posted December 19, 2013 3:43 pm 


Anonymous

Floyd’s record doesnt match Paquiao.

Posted December 19, 2013 3:42 pm 


Tomato Can

George, Mayweather is a better fighter than the guys you mention. All those guys are great, Mayweather is just better…. By the way you should remove Gatti “RIP” from your list. If you take a look at Mayweather’s record you’ll see he starched Manfreddie in 4 or 5 rounds, with utter ease. Manfreddie was coming off of a Gatti win.. Mayweather, tried to tell fans that Gatti wasn’t on his level. Fans got insulted, and begged for a Gatti win. We all know what happened from there…

Posted December 19, 2013 3:38 pm 


George

Tomato Roy Barnes makes good points in his postings. Would Mayweather have that ” 0 ” if he fought a prime Mosely ?

or ahow about a prime De La Hoya ?

or a prime Cotto ?

or have even a better fight with a much younger Gatti

Floyd then beats Ortiz which many say was a cheap shot towards a win.

Seems like Floyd never fought the great ones in there prime. As for the Cinnamin kid Roy Barnes is right Red is a 1 dimensional fighter

Posted December 19, 2013 3:34 pm 


Tomato Can

George, you’d have to ask Mayweather. I don’t know why. You can say he’s was afraid of losing his 0. Maybe he was. Heck Maybe he’s afraid of Manny too. But judging on his performances against other fighters, he has no reason to be afraid… So then maybe it’s a risk vrs reward type of thing. If that’s the case, it appears it’s paying off for him, cause no matter what any of us say, he’s unversally know as the fight games best…

Posted December 19, 2013 3:29 pm 


George

Tomato why did Mayweather retire when they were trying to match him up with Margarito ? knowing that he really lost to Castillo ???

Posted December 19, 2013 3:26 pm 


Anonymous

WARD on peds, ffs how many over there are really clean.

Posted December 19, 2013 3:22 pm 


Tomato Can

How many of Mayweather’s opponents were smaller than him? Please do tell. Manny would really be the first naturally smaller fighter than Mayweather that he’ll face if it happens… The smaller fighter theory is completely wrong. You can say he’s faced older fighters, cause he has, fought a couple of them. But so has Pac…

Posted December 19, 2013 3:21 pm 


Tomato Can

Sanchez, if that’s the case, it’ll come out sooner or later. I’ve said many times, I don’t trust any of them..

Posted December 19, 2013 3:18 pm 


George

I like your posting Roy B makes sense, I just look on boxrec Floyd’s record doesnt match Paquiao. Its seems moneys record is filled up with older, smaller fighters. I can’t say that for Paq. Paqs record is more in a truer champion form.

Posted December 19, 2013 3:16 pm 


eric

Pacman is without question a lot more fun and entertaining to watch fight than floyd, that alone should sell fights. Id rather watch manny box a paraplegic than floyd fight the best in the world other than pacman himself.

Posted December 19, 2013 3:14 pm 


JJ

We all know Ward has been on PEDS for quite some time

Posted December 19, 2013 3:14 pm 


Sanchez

Me below

Posted December 19, 2013 3:08 pm 


Anonymous

Ward has wriggled out of doing it FOUR times now Tomato Can. Three of his opponents have pushed for it and each time he’s wriggled out of it. He said he wanted to do it after beating Kessler in 2009 and that he wants to implement it for ALL of his fights.

And Virgil Hunter knew about it three weeks before but we’re expected to believe he never mentioned it to Ward?

Rodriguez: “It really wasn’t a demand. If it was a demand, it would have been on the contract and it would have been asked in the negotiations, but it wasn’t. Because, like you mentioned, I understand that I wasn’t in that position to be negotiating over that.

“So all I was saying is, ’I got this, I’m doing it, will you be willing to do it?’ Obviously, you’re not, which is fine. But don’t try to act like it’s a publicity stunt. And if you and your team, you know, communicate, and Virgil…”

Ward: [Jumping in] “I don’t know about any conversation that took place…”

Rodriguez: “It is what it is. You also got an e-mail about it. Victor sent you an e-mail, and you didn’t want it…”

Ward: “I’m not into conspiracy theories and all of this … I never saw an e-mail or none of that stuff.”

When contacted for comment regarding the email Rodriguez referred to, Conte informed ***** in July of 2011, he and Ward had a conversation regarding Conte sponsoring Ward for VADA testing. After speaking to Ward, Conte sent him an email offering sponsorship. Ward replied, “Got it, thanks!” but never followed up.

“Andre and Virgil were both informed about the sponsorship offer to Andre for VADA testing,” “Back in July of 2011, when Dr. Goodman was about to launch VADA, I called and talked with Andre and we discussed a possible offer of sponsorship for him. I followed up with an email to confirm the possible sponsorship offer to him. He responded to my email by saying ‘Got it, thanks!’ I have been talking with Virgil about Andre possibly doing VADA testing for a couple of years now. I called and talked with Virgil about Andre possibly doing the VADA program on the day that the contract for the fight was signed by Edwin. This was about three weeks before the press conference that was held to announce the fight. We talked about VADA again several times before the presser

Posted December 19, 2013 3:07 pm 


Roy Barnes

Paquiao Proven record -

Fought Marquez three times in his prime

Fought prime Bradley

Fought both prime Coto and Margarito

Fought prime Hatton and near his own size

Beat up Diaz

Fought the 2 greats Morales and Barrera many times over

Fought prime Rio’s

I wont count this because they were old but beat DLH and Mosely

Paquiao fought better fighter, Paquiao fought world class champions. Paquiao is the all around better fighter and more exciting to watch than Floyd hands down

Posted December 19, 2013 3:06 pm 


Roy Barnes

Mayweathers E – lusterous record -

DLH – end of his career old and worn out

Hatton – little small Hatton didnt even have a chance

JMM – another small fry

Cotto – Ring worn and done by the time he fought Floydy

Canelo – one dimensional Canelo, easy picking once again for the Mayweather family

Mosely – another ring worn old fighter well past his prime

Gatti – well done by the time he fought Floyd

Zab judah – You dont even have to flip a coin on this pick

If your either small or old and worn out or a never ” was ” then you might have a chance against the ” Great ” Floyd Mayweather

Posted December 19, 2013 2:58 pm 


Exiled Yank

FM fought Guerrero because he was the mandatory. He fought Canelo because the fans wanted it. MP is his mandatory and the fans want it, but he says the fight will be hard to make. Bottom line, it’s looking like FM is indeed scared of MP. I said for ages it wasn’t true, but I now I must admit that it sure seems that he is. Pathetic. FM needs to buck-up and fight MP. If he fights Khan after saying MP isn’t on his level, then he needs to retire from the game.

Posted December 19, 2013 2:54 pm 


Tomato Can

Sanchez, thanks for the histroy on Andre Ward. I agree, Andre shouldn’t say one thin than do another in regards to testing. However, no one’s going to subject themselves to additional testing after the contracts been signed… But to my knoweldge there’s only one fighter who chose not to sign a contract based on testing…

Posted December 19, 2013 2:48 pm 


Sanchez

Cue PEEJ with a list of excuses defending the bruthaman 1, 2, 3, 4…

Posted December 19, 2013 2:48 pm 


Sanchez

Tomato Can ”I also thought it was funny when, after one of Mayweather’s fights, Pacquiao said, he would like to help make sure the fight game was clean by doing random testing… Then wen’t on to fight without them, until he got KTFO”

You mean like when Andre Ward said this in 2011 but then still refuses to submit to any additional testing right up until today even though at least THREE of his subsequent opponents have pushed hard for him to do so? Ward was worried about the cost but turned down a free test.

He’s repeatedly said he wants to implement extra testing for all his fights, starting from right back aftet when he beat Kessler but he’s found an excuse to wriggle out of it every single time one of his opponents has pushed for it. Naturally I’m sure you and the rest of the Pac-Man is a PED cheat brigade and Floyd sack lovers will have a list of excuses to justify it of course. Predictably the first being ”He wasn’t going to be dictated to” I should imagine. Oh the irony.

“I think it is [necessary for boxing]. I would welcome it. I think it’s great. That way there is no confusion about who’s playing on an even playing field. This is a dangerous sport. You hear whispers about guys, what they’re doing and not doing. You have to figure out who’s going to pay for it, but once we get past that – I think it should be something that’s implemented in every big fight,” Ward said.

—–Andre Ward

So far, Ward has said in 2011 that he supports testing, so there would be no questions left unanswered. But when asked to participate in free testing paid for by a man he used to work with and whom in which his trainer and Godfather, Virgil Hunter trusts his stable, Ward declined citing:

1. He was blindsided by the request.
2. The request needed to be made during negotiations.
3. Conte is now working with Rodriguez and thus his money is not welcome and frankly not needed.
4. The offer was not made the right way.
5. Rodriguez is a challenger who is not allowed to make requests.

Blah blah blah

Posted December 19, 2013 2:43 pm 


PEEJ

There is no need to defend Floyd, his record speaks for itself. But what is even more amazing about you pactoids is the simple fact that the excuses where made by Pac and Company but yet yall ignore that. And they proceed to back Pac up when he then wants to do the random testing. As a matter of fact since Pac just went and did the random testing, it proved that the reasons he came up with were excuses on why not to fight.

Posted December 19, 2013 2:34 pm 


Bing

FLOYD CEMENTED HIS LEGACY by PLAY DOUGH

Posted December 19, 2013 2:25 pm 


Bing

THE FLOMOS will have a HARD TIME defending this from their IDOL

Posted December 19, 2013 2:24 pm 


I’m Worried About My Health and I’ve Lost my Urge

The Flomos are the most retarded group or sub group of sport’s fans in the world. The whole world laughs at them and the incessant drivel that pours out of their mouths. They’d realize this if they had anything between the ears.

The entire universe says Floyd ducked Pacquiao, but Flomos say it’s just not true. They’re like the Creationists, stubbornly arguing against fact and common sense with sheer bunkum and mindless gobbledygook. They’re the most insecure, racist brainless idiots you will ever encounter. Honestly I’ve never seen such a bunch of pathetic losers in all my life.

Posted December 19, 2013 2:19 pm 


Tomato Can

I also thought it was funny when, after one of Mayweather’s fights, Pacquiao said, he would like to help make sure the fight game was clean by doing random testing… Then wen’t on to fight without them, until he got KTFO…

Posted December 19, 2013 2:15 pm 


Ken Smith

Sredmond when you say – This notion that “Floyd has preserved himself while Mannys been in wars” is a LAME excuse ” Its true Floyd puts in 10 percent in that ring. Guys like Bernard Hopkins and Mayweather simply dont fight. They remind me of Hector Camacho. Fighters with nice records that beat fighters because they dont fight. This is why people call Hopkins and Mayweather Boring.

Posted December 19, 2013 2:14 pm 


PEEJ

Yeah its ridiculous. And all that crap is now garbage as he has shown no issues when he fought Rios. Which proves all that garbage was excuses on why he didn’t want the fight in the first place.

Posted December 19, 2013 2:07 pm 


Tomato Can

Peej, according to Pac fans, Mayweather, knew, Pacquiao was superstitious and would find excuses not to agree to random testing up to the day of the fight. According to Pac fans it was a culture thing that should have been expected, as well as respected… Hmmmm….

Posted December 19, 2013 2:02 pm 


PEEJ

Fight could of happened but someone was scared of needles, gets weak when giving blood and was superstitious. Yet that is all Floyds fault.

Posted December 19, 2013 1:54 pm 


SREDMOND

When Floyd took off for 21 months post Hatton was Pacquiao even fighting at WW? If men memory serves me he was NOT and his reputation was not solidified at the weight till he beat Cotto so the longest layoff Floyd took predates Manny even being a force in the division…You really think PAC beating Diaz at 135 caused FMJ to take time outta the sport? That’s just more of your creative thinking absent critical thinking… Mayweather has two of the biggest Paydays back to back that boxing had ever seen to that point Oscar and Hatton the man took a well deserved rest which you wanna try and penalize him for because Pacquiao takes more beatings and has been badly stopped… Mayweather fought a FRESHER Marquez after 21 months and made the bout laughable, meanwhile Pacs fought the man 4x and looked worse each time out ending with a loss that probably necessitated CAT scans from the best Drs Money can buy that’s not Floyd’s issue, Marquez would not be considered a viable opponent for FMJ at this point yet for Manny it’s a coin toss…

Posted December 19, 2013 1:48 pm 


REM

“Pac your next”
“No I didn’t say that don’t put words in my mouth”
Floyd Mayweather.
Has there ever been a more odvious ploy to promote a fighters upcoming fight no not even close.

Posted December 19, 2013 1:39 pm 


mansworld

Floyd is about one thing Money. He feels as though he dont need to prove anything his legacy is already cemented, He dont care about belts bragging rights people calling him scared he cares about one thing Money thats why he changed his name to Money. The alverez bout was the highest in boxing history. Manny on the other hand fights are not a sell. Arum matched him up with Rios a bum and people didnt buy it. Guys like Kahn Maidana Garica are all big fights for Floyd without the Arum Factor. Logically Kahn is huge in the UK, Guys like Broner sell more fights than Manny these days, So the bottom line is Manny already turned down 40 mil Now it wont take the WBC declaring in a number 1 contender it wont take people call Floyd scared the only way he will fight Manny is for Money. Everybidy tried to make this fight happen from Oscar, Richard Schaffer even 50 cent, and Arum was too greedy and Manny wouldnt submit to blood testing, so now no one cares about Manny, how a guy loose 2 out of the last 3 fights and be a number contender? Fold would give up a belt than be manipulated into a fight, How a guy have all these big fights generate all this money and owe 50 million is back taxes? He is getting screwed by the jew, Right now the way Floyd looks at it Manny is nothing more than a fly at a barbecue, he needs to win and win big KO Bradley or Marquez fight a guy like Garcia create a buzz again the Manny couldnt be denyed,

Posted December 19, 2013 1:38 pm 


REM

It is a fighters prerogative to take time off without a doubt but its clear as day Floyd’s strategy is to outlast Pac and let him wear out since Floyd is a defensive fighter who preserves himself. But by waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting he opens himself up to criticism for it.

Posted December 19, 2013 1:36 pm 


jeff

Losing so much respect for Floyd, this is a duck, none of the other fighters were on his level either, but he still fought them!!!

Posted December 19, 2013 1:33 pm 


Tomato Can

At this point, Mayweather is making money regardless of what he says about Manny. On the same token, Manny and his team mention Mayweather at every opportunity, in order to generate more fan interest.

Posted December 19, 2013 1:25 pm 


Tomato Can

Busted ear drums, and knock out losses, prove that Pac can not be as well preserved as Mayweather. Those type of things take a toll on a fighter. Pac has had an awesome career; it’s too bad it looks as though he lost so much money, and didn’t take care of his taxes. Now it looks as though Manny, will end up in the took one fight too many catagory…

Posted December 19, 2013 1:22 pm 


147pounder

Floyd if u say manny is not on ur level then why not fight him n prove it??????that wd b ease money for you and u will have mannys name on ur record,,,but u wont fight him because you wd suffer the same fate as ur lil broth broner ur just a fkkig coward hiding on lame excuses

Posted December 19, 2013 1:19 pm 


SREDMOND

REM, layoffs are a boxers perogative, and the dreaded “ring rust” is usually a negative in the World of boxing, Mayweather does not do tuneup fights post layoffs it’s right back to facing World Class, HOF or Young Champions… Mayweathers and Mannys careers are separate entities and what about this year? Mayweather defended his WW belt and Unified the SMW division against Canelo who had NEVER lost and Guerrero who had not lost in YEARS… Manny had ONE bout against a guy fighting at WW for the first time coming off a loss…”Preserving himself” by his 45th fight PAC had been stopped 2x by scrubs, Wlad 3x SRL never made it to 45 bouts meanwhile FMJ, shakes off bad hands, ring rust, jail and controversy to keep winning.. Meanwhile Manny is still trying to figure out how to deal with an 80 year old Marque when FMJ figured him out within the first 90 seconds…

Posted December 19, 2013 1:17 pm 


Teflon

Manny scewed himself back in the days people this fight could have been made a long time ago. But he turned it down and 40 million cash up front, Now all the lust of the fight is gone because of his losses. He is broke and needs Floyd. Now he is suppose to have sympathy? Nope Floyd is going to make Manny suffer Bottom line is guys are lining up to fight Floyd so he is not in a begging position like Manny who let Arum screw him. How many guys are linning up to fight Manny? Pactards are so loyal. Manny will loose again in 2014.

Posted December 19, 2013 1:07 pm 


REM

SRed that would mean something if Floyd didn’t take so many long layoffs but he has and the younger Pac has fought almost 20x more thats a major factor.

Posted December 19, 2013 1:05 pm 


PEEJ

And that is the problem with Pac fans. They only see what they want to see. Ridiculous.

Posted December 19, 2013 12:57 pm 


Rich

Yeah, bottom line, Manny should take some lessons from Floyd…with all that worldly wisdom he has gained from the pillar of society his Dad and his time in prison……Perhaps his woman who he works over regularly would vouch for him …Then Floyd could hold his head up high and say “Ask not what your country can do for you…But what can you do for your country”….Waddy say Turdo….you knowing all about congressmen and how they work and stuff

Posted December 19, 2013 12:57 pm 


REM

Thurman, Garcia lmao who are these guys on boxing s todem pole. Id rather watch paint dry for 70$.

Posted December 19, 2013 12:51 pm 


SREDMOND

This notion that “Floyd has preserved himself while Mannys been in wars” is a LAME excuse, Mayweathers been facing WW boxers for longer than Pacquiao
And he has MORE bouts against Jr MW’s than PAC…If PAC is “equal to Floyd” then he should have been “EQUALLY WELL PRESERVED” PAC Mans KO percentage above 140 is hardly impressive so the truth be told any “wars” he has been in were a result of him taking punches, Mayweathers ability to limit the damage he sustains is a testament to superior defense and ring Generalship… PAC Man is 2 years younger, so time should be on his side but he lacks the Mayweather defense and thus has had his bell rung more… PAC learned the dangers of recklessness from you know who and against Rios looked buzzed he backed off due to the risk of getting capped. AGAIN…

Posted December 19, 2013 12:48 pm 


REM

ROTF…Enjoy Floyd v Khan fellas I got Khan winning by dominant UD. We’ll see how Floyd handles a superior athlete. I don’t think hes smart enough to overcome Khan speed. Thats how weak Floyd is.

Posted December 19, 2013 12:46 pm 


Ken Smith

Floyd Mayweather style – Run, jab, run, clinch, run , clinch and run again. So much greatness there no wonder he wins fights.

Posted December 19, 2013 12:42 pm 


Joe Flipper

If Floyd says Manny’s not on his level then why not fight him ? Everyone else has the balls to step up and fought Manny why not you Floyd ?

Posted December 19, 2013 12:40 pm 


te tumbo

i would much rather watch and be willing to pay for Mayweather v. Garcia v. Maidana v. Thurman. i already know what will happen in a matchup between Mayweather and Pacquiao*. so does Pacquiao*, which is why he will avoid this matchup for as long as possible. ideally, Team Pacquiao* would prefer to lure Mayweather out of retirement and if Floyd retires before Pacquiao* you can bet that Team Pacquioa* will make a whole lot of noise and promises about the conessions they’d be willing to make if Mayweather returns to the sport. however, once an undefeated Mayweather makes his money and retires, there won’t be anything that will lure him back. IF Pacquiao* wants to truly fight Mayweather, he needs to make the concessions NOW and look forward to a rematch that i’m certain will never happen after Mayweather mercilessly beats and humiliates Pacquiao*.

Posted December 19, 2013 12:40 pm 


Edgar Guevara

Maidana-Mayweather can this match up be avoid it, by team Mayweather?i

Posted December 19, 2013 12:30 pm 


PEEJ

No I could care less about Floyd fighting Pac. After Floyd toys with Pac then the excuses will start coming like he was too small, he was damaged, he was too old. If he would of taken the test then we of seen the slaughter that would of been Pac. But he came up with excuses. Pac will be known as the fighter that ducked a great because he was scared to take random testing.

Posted December 19, 2013 12:17 pm 


te tumbo

bottomline, this matchup has gone stale. Pacquiao* should pull a Klitschko and put his country’s fate above his personal greed and ambition. of course, Pacquiao’s* status as a “congressman” is purely honorary. nobody expects or insists that he actually do any work. just hand out money. he’s even a bigger fraud as a “congressman” than he is as a “legend”.

Posted December 19, 2013 12:08 pm 


te tumbo

Pacquiao* is a debunked legend who some of us never considered “legendary” to begin with. a charitable $5 million flat-fee is all Pacquiao* is worth to Mayweather or whatever it takes to guarantee “Money” his coveted $100 million payday. IF Pacquiao* wins, he can turn the tables on Mayweather in the rematch. of course, NObody truly believes that Pacquiao’s* marketability will survive a beatdown v. Mayweather. that is the primary reason that Pacquiao* would insist on a “legendary” payday v. the actual legend Mayweather.

Posted December 19, 2013 12:05 pm 


REM

Floyd knows he couldn’t toy with Pac. When Pacs brought up he talks about ” self preservation” and risking permanent injury lmao. What a coward the 1st fighter in history that can be defined as scared to fight.

Posted December 19, 2013 12:00 pm 


REM

Peej really you don’t care to see Floyd fight a living legend. You’d rather see Khan I guess. I understand Floyd’s bank account is more important than the best fights being made to his fans.

Posted December 19, 2013 11:56 am 


PEEJ

I could really care less if the fight happens. I have always maintained that Pac is too small for Floyd and Floyd would toy with Pac. Pac has no defense and Floyd would eat him up. And since Pacs fan base has fallen off tremendously as shown with his past PPV numbers he is not gonna come close to the purse he was attempting to get before. He could of had 50/50 in 2010 but declined the fight. Now he gets about 70/30 if the fight does go down. But Floyd toys with Pac and beats him easily.

Posted December 19, 2013 11:28 am 


REM

Peej you really don’t want the fight and I can understand why Floyd would be severely beaten down. No Floyd you can’t keep 150 mil for the blind cult follower foundation not gonna happen.

Posted December 19, 2013 11:04 am 


Tomato Can

REM, regardless of whether you’re right or wrong about Mayweather not being able to beat Pac. You giving him credit for beating Pac, isn’t worth much in the whole scheme of things, is it? And like you already mentioned, Mayweather won’t get the credit for a Pacquiao win, Pac’s been in too many wars already…

Posted December 19, 2013 10:56 am 


PEEJ

As long as Pac agrees to the random testing up too fight time and agrees to the purse split then the fight may come off. But it has to be the date Floyd picks. Floyd is in the drivers seat and has been for a while. If Pac and Company can’t comply with that then they don’t want the fight. History has shown they don’t want the fight. But if so they Floyd will go ahead and give a lesson to Pac with ease.

Posted December 19, 2013 10:55 am 


REM

Tomato can I know Floyd can’t beat Pac but if he does ill give him credit. However by not fighting Pac by now he has opened himself up to criticism and rightfully so hes preserved himself while Pac has been in wars and is eventually gonna lose a step.That was always his plan to outlast Pac Pacs younger yet hes had like 15 more fights its obvious what Floyd’s trying to do.

Posted December 19, 2013 10:51 am 


Tomato Can

This isn’t the first time Mayweather tried to tell the fans that a fighter wasn’t at his level… I hope this fight comes off, so Mayweather can prove just that… However, if he does, will he get any credit for it? Nope, fans will keep calling him a cherry picker, and say he’s afraid of this guy or that guy, and everyone he beat, was past their best… So what really does Mayweather have to gain, by dealing with Arum, and making this fight happen? Not much, and and even less with every month that goes by…

Posted December 19, 2013 10:40 am 


REM

Zuks Pac is head and shoulders above Floyd in boxing more titles in more weightclasses more f.o.t.ys and fighter of Floyd’s prime decade. Miadana v Broner was just more overwhelming evidence that the left-hand smashes the phillyshell into pieces. Floyd is one of Pacs easiest fights and Floyd knows it thats why hed rather compete in record sales than fight lmao.

Posted December 19, 2013 10:40 am 


Zuks

For crying out load; why should Floyd Mayweather try to please people that hate him and will not give him credit even when he defeats Pacman?

The truth in Pacman is not the best boxer in the world….Floyd is!

If anyone thinks Pacman can beat Floyd because they saw Broner losing to Maidana, they are smoking some cheap Philippino weed!

45-0 and still counting!

Posted December 19, 2013 10:20 am 


electrician

IT WONT HAPPEN…

Posted December 19, 2013 10:19 am 


john smith

Floyd we are americans you shame us all the time ….home of the brave … man up fight Pacyaoooo MANNN UP / BLACK AMERICANS HAVE PRIDE

Posted December 19, 2013 10:09 am 


nemo

When fm says mp is not at his level, fm thinks ppv numbers make him a better fighter. Get real fm. You have run out of excuses. Man up and fight mp and show us you are the best.

Posted December 19, 2013 10:04 am 


REM

After watching Miadana v Broner im convinced Pac will knock Floyd out. The upper body movement tendencies of the shoulder roll move the fighter right into the left-hand and worse its blinds the user from the left-hand Floyd will never see it coming. The shoulder roll user then has to go into a conventional defense which opens up the righthand like both Zab and Chop Chop landed flush on Floyd. Pac would make easy work of Floyd and like Tune said hes smart enough to know it.

Posted December 19, 2013 9:35 am 


Jesus

May,fight with Pac and prove that you are stronger.

Posted December 19, 2013 9:18 am 


Swedish Boxing Fan

This is some more bull s#it from “Pretty Boy” Floytd Mayweather Jr. Seriusly why is the fighter still around with his bad image that makes a little baby to cry? I’m so sick tired of Floyd Mayweather Jr’s GIANT EGO to death. He makes all real boxing fans sick with not only his incredible GREED but ALSO how he trash talk other fighters that they are less worth and “Don’t” sell etc. SHUT THE F£CK UP Floyd Mayweather Jr, Now I have had it with this punk.

All fans want to see Mayweather Jr vs Manny Paquiao and the fight will be a BIG seller – WE ALL know that very well.

This is another bad and sad ezcuse from Floyd Mayweather Jr in the long road now. So fighting a over-hyped and glass jaw Amir Khan is better then Paquiao? Now this is another point of how scared Mayweather Jr is to fight a fighter that can hurt his precius little “0″ on his paper record.

Then fight Bernard Hopkins then at middleweikght level if you want a selling fight. Fight the old legend if Manny “Pac-Man” Paquioa is to much.

People, how much of this are we put up to take? There have never been such a EGO fighter in modern time as Mayweather Jr and I wan’t him knocked down to the canvass hard now.

Posted December 19, 2013 9:16 am 


fedor

pacman style of fighting is tailor made of floyd counter punching precision in reality if they ever fight floyd will make pac look like an average fighter remenber my words.

Posted December 19, 2013 9:08 am 


Tunes

@fedor Pac is far from overated. He is one of the best offensive fighters of all time. Hes stepped up in multiple weight classes and hasn’t dodged anyone. Yes he got caught by marqez but hes got the balls to get in there and brawl. Last time floyd knocked someone out it was a sucker punch

Posted December 19, 2013 9:01 am 


Tunes

Floyd is a great defensive fighter he is also a smart boxer. That’s why he sees something that pac does that he is afraid of. With floyd’s style he can get hit with the left especially if you throw a left in a combinations. Watch the cotto fight and see how cotto lands the left.

Posted December 19, 2013 8:55 am 


fedor

floyd mayweather junior will be remenbered as pound for pound the best defensive fighter of all time .

Posted December 19, 2013 8:49 am 


fedor

floyd is in a league of his own , pacman will not be able to land puches on floyd he will make him miss & counter him all night wining easy a unanimous decison .

Posted December 19, 2013 8:46 am 


fedor

if floyd fights marquez again or fight bradley he will defeat them easily all boxing fans knows the outcome for sure.

Posted December 19, 2013 8:42 am 


fedor

pascman is the most overrated fighter of all time , he will never beat floyd not even in his dreams & pacman deep down knows that for sure , got koed by marquez & lost to bradley enough said.

Posted December 19, 2013 8:38 am 


Karpog

Mayweather is a garbage. People watching him just to see him get knock out!!!!!!!.

Posted December 19, 2013 8:05 am 


Auzbox

So no filo I meant

Posted December 19, 2013 7:59 am 


Auzbox

Born in deniliquin n.s.w on the vic border great grand parents are British so filo here just love watching manny fight

Posted December 19, 2013 7:59 am 


Anonymous

Auzbox, don’t be on here claiming to be Australian. You’re really Filipino aren’t you? Go on, tell us you’re not and that you have no flip in you.

Posted December 19, 2013 7:47 am 


Zuks

Money May

Posted December 19, 2013 6:53 am 


Rich

Princy….Having so much fun eh….Here’s one for the road for you,….Manny according to your boxing knowledge has fought no top fighter above 147 and beat them…The evidence speaks for itself, how profound…how about Margarito he was 150….Floyd you tell us has handed a lot of fighters their first loss….how admirable and true,but, then so has Pacq, in fact twice as many as Floyd ..As you say,seriously you could go on forever with nonsense facts……and apparently you can……

Posted December 19, 2013 6:47 am 


Zuks

Floyd is not jealous of Nike or Hennessey

He is just saying he makes more money than Manny even when he is not doing a commercial for products.

Posted December 19, 2013 6:41 am 


auzbox

yeh I seen him say that but when it comes down to it there is rich history with these belts and as well there might be two fighters bigger than the belts its time to make it 1

Posted December 19, 2013 6:39 am 


Jack Mehoff

‘Pacquiao can have the belt, a belt don’t make me’

“It’s not just Floyd Mayweather’s bigger than a title. Floyd Mayweather at the level now, he can come out with his own world championship belt. … Everybody’s talking about the title, (Pacquiao’s) the mandatory. He can have the belt! A belt don’t make me.”

Posted December 19, 2013 6:29 am 


Jack Mehoff

swedes italians russians mexicans etc etc all call soccer FOOTBALL

Posted December 19, 2013 6:12 am 


auzbox

but your from England yeh? so you all love soccer which you call football. Seems all the brits love mayweather

Posted December 19, 2013 6:03 am 


auzbox

you must be fom England, cause you boys just lost the ashes and that’s what you have been calling us?

Posted December 19, 2013 5:57 am 


Jack Mehoff

No worries maaate shelll beee riiiight .

Posted December 19, 2013 5:56 am 


Jack Mehoff

I speak some aussie gaaadaay maaate tooo riiight eh !!

Posted December 19, 2013 5:56 am 


auzbox

Australians behind the pac man jack

Posted December 19, 2013 5:55 am 


auzbox

na buddy im from Australia and like pac as much as some of the boys on here but don’t type that well so cant write the long ones like sredmond and some of the other fellas

Posted December 19, 2013 5:52 am 


Jack Mehoff

I mean auzbox ?

Posted December 19, 2013 5:50 am 


Jack Mehoff

hec dog how many people are you disguised as ?

Posted December 19, 2013 5:49 am 


auzbox

Also Floyd is older yet been on less ppv fights. Interesting

Posted December 19, 2013 5:40 am 


auzbox

I meant happyboy was copying my own name

Posted December 19, 2013 5:32 am 


auzbox

Happybox name another opponent that there is all the good ones are not fighting or are with arum and I guess he wont be a hypocrite and choose another from arums stable

Posted December 19, 2013 5:31 am 


auzbox

sorry happybox but Floyd had taken the crown from delahoya and yes cotto was champion but manny got payed more for that fight go figure. And as for not as skillfull why did he get the fighters out of there earlier because he is on another level better boxer and hits people ten times harder than may could dream of

Posted December 19, 2013 5:30 am 


Happyboy

Auzbox – I ask you again, who said Floyd is fighting Khan?

Posted December 19, 2013 5:28 am 


Happyboy

Auzbox – don’t know which clips you following but ODH was the draw not Pac, Cotto was the champion not Pac. BTW Pac has been the one fighting Bum Bum, JWWs & LWs. Pac is not on Floyds level in PPVs, money and talent.

Posted December 19, 2013 5:27 am 


auzbox

they fought greats on the home stretch I meant

Posted December 19, 2013 5:21 am 


auzbox

Don’t be surprised if khan isn’t the last bum he fights in his last 4 and his fans will make the excuse that he has earned an easy run home but that’s not boxing. Ask yourself who was haglers last fight or sugar rays they fought greats on the hoe stretch and mayweather should be no different

Posted December 19, 2013 5:21 am 


MJames

How can glass jaw Khan be on Floyd’s level by Pac Man isn’t? That does not make sense. Khan is a joke, Pac Man is for real. Yet Khan is getting a shot at Floyd. This is crazy man.

Posted December 19, 2013 5:17 am 


auzbox

Just like Floyd makes people jump at his command manny made them do what gave himthe best chance just as dela hoya did to mayweather in there fight. Why cause they were p4p best aT THE TIME

Posted December 19, 2013 5:14 am 


auzbox

Its funny how you all go on about weight but forget mayweather made marquez put on 10 pound for there fight. Might be the reason he was so slow hey

Posted December 19, 2013 5:10 am 


auzbox

And he has to fight khan if not who else, cotto, Garcia, mattysse all not fighting surely he cant go to d grade fighters

Posted December 19, 2013 5:09 am 


auzbox

happyboy I buy all paperviews and watch all the clips. Manny is a very light guy naturally and if you followed closely he had to put bricks in his pants to make weight his first fight. They chased him for the fights why should he be bloated when they were chasing him

Posted December 19, 2013 5:08 am 


Happyboy

Has Floyd announced that his fighting that con Khan, NO! so why do you keep on making an ass of yourselves and assume that he is based on rumours?

Posted December 19, 2013 5:07 am 


Happyboy

Auzbox – if you followed the sport properly you would know the answer. ODH weighed in @147lbs catchweight a weight he had not faught in over 8yrs. Cotto was weight drained to 145lbs & immediately after his defeat he went up to 154lbs and has been there eversince. Floyd on the other hand faught both boxers at their best weight.

Posted December 19, 2013 5:04 am 


auzbox

bundee couldn’t agree more. Because floyds on another level than khan obviously but half the world is on the fence about manny so set the record straight. Ill swallow the pill if he loses but gee ducky get it done

Posted December 19, 2013 5:04 am 


auzbox

Its silly evertime an article about mayweather and pac gets written we all get on here and argue but if you could pick floyds fights, meaning floyds fans who would be the four you choose and would manny not make the cut?

Posted December 19, 2013 4:57 am 


auzbox

how so the other way dela hoya nearly beat him but coulnt touch pac. Cotto was stopped by pac but not fazed by mayweather

Posted December 19, 2013 4:53 am 


auzbox

I don’t think it would matter if pac lost 3in a row it is still the main fight the world want to see. There is not to many others that would come close

Posted December 19, 2013 4:51 am 


Mbuyiseli

auzbox its the other way around.

Posted December 19, 2013 4:50 am 


auzbox

mansworld I don’t all disagree with you but you cant judge one fight from another. Cotto gave Floyd some problems and so did Oscar, they didn’t manny. Marquez gave pac problems and not Floyd that doesn’t mean much. Pac style is scary for Floyd hes not done and I ope one day soon one of us is wrong in who is the best fighter

Posted December 19, 2013 4:48 am 


MNboxingFAN – Sean

Floyd’s argument that his PPV number being better than Pacquiao’s somehow disqualifies Manny from being a worthy opponent is some of the stupidest logic I’ve ever heard. Pacquiao’s PPV numbers are better than Mayweather’s last five opponents combined! Step up and make the fight already Floyd. I’m a huge Pacquiao fan… but one who doesn’t want to see this fight because I think Manny would lose. That being said it has to happen! If it doesn’t the blame won’t be on Pacquiao. Expect Floyd’s last fight for his Showtime contract to finally be the fight we’ve all been waiting for… that is unless Manny retires first.

Posted December 19, 2013 4:47 am 


auzbox

The numbers wont count till he fights in America with a guy that has a big base I guarantee that if he fights Bradley again it will be between 1 mill and 1.5 easy. Im not arguing numbers down but it was in a country other than the us. No one can argue the records will fall against pac and fall hard

Posted December 19, 2013 4:45 am 


Tachyon

auzbox I agree but when you run PPV numbers and I’m sure that’s what they look at Khan has higher numbers than average. Khan vs Pac would have pulled much better numbers than Pac vs Rios.

Posted December 19, 2013 4:42 am 


mansworld

Box the Rios fight had less than 550,000 ppvs now I know it hurts when you love a guy but when its over its over, Manny beat Floyd opponets worst, every one he beat was latino who stands right in front and were dehydrated Floyd beat Oscar, Cotto at 154 not 147 like Manny. And everyone Manny beat Floyf had already smoked. Men lie women lie numbers dont, I have a box of kleenex for you and Hec dog. Manny is a wash and the Rios fight proved it, He had zero power how a guy like Rios wasnt Floored by Manny the great? Marquez didnt win one round on Floyd but he dropped Manny? Do you think a guy like Bradley or Marquez can beat Floyd? Manny like I said has a lot of redeeming to no one cares how good you once was they care about today. This is a mans world and Money rules it Boxing is the most unforgiving sport even more that football they will love you today and hate you tomorrow, Arum screwed Manny from history

Posted December 19, 2013 4:41 am 


auzbox

khan hasn’t mproved since a journyman Prescott kod him I 1

Posted December 19, 2013 4:37 am 


auzbox

and you say he will fight Garcia next with no fan base so that’s worth nothing. Khan is a loser who couldn’t even push Garcia and he was dropped last outing so how does he earn his shot. laughable

Posted December 19, 2013 4:33 am 


auzbox

and many is special don’t forget when he fights floyds opponents he beats them worse. he even softenedcotto up for mayweather

Posted December 19, 2013 4:28 am 


auzbox

and if money is allit is ever about pac worth the most ten fold so argument is floored

Posted December 19, 2013 4:27 am 


auzbox

3 mill to fight marquez that’s a load of crap when marquez got 8 so I would say he would have been paid atleast 20

Posted December 19, 2013 4:26 am 


auzbox

and you take what Floyd says is gospel sorry champ that’s not going to cut it. If there was 40 then why not offer 30 now and get it over with

Posted December 19, 2013 4:25 am 


Anonymous

Assbox have you never heard the saying the man with the gold rules? Floyd has all the gold ask yourself who in there right mind would turn down 40 mil to fight Floyd? Well guess what your boy Manny did. Floyd makes all the rules because he is his own promoter and he has the gold undefeated record no excuses facts . Guys like Alverez Kahn even Oscar agreed to his terms and Manny is special. Again its Mannys fault why this fight never can happen. Now no one is even interested in Manny except Pactards again he only made 3 mil to fight Marquez and Floyd made over 100 to fight Alverez and will make another 100 to fight Kahn, Money is all it will ever be about

Posted December 19, 2013 4:24 am 


Auzbox

Are you serious he doesn’t hand to fight 6 tough fights, that’s what boxing is fighting the best and khan not close. No fighter has earned an easy end, that’s why it’s called fighting

Posted December 19, 2013 4:23 am 


Tachyon

Khan makes sense because it brings in EU PPV viewers and May will bring in the rest. You can’t expect the man to make 6 defense against 6 straight tough opponents so Khan is decent brings in good audience and expands to EU crowd. Also 100% bet If May had not picked Khan he would have been picked for Pacs next fight so either way Khan’s name would have been chosen.

Posted December 19, 2013 4:18 am 


auzbox

Anonomous beating marquez would do nothing and khan is going to bring nothing to the table except a glass chin and a puny light welter that has never weighed over 143. Khan will not bring umbers like canelo bought

Posted December 19, 2013 4:17 am 


auzbox

Don’t you want to give eciting fights for the fans. Who wants to buy guerro,ortiz and Moseley dvds when he is finished? no one but who will buy the pac and marquez wars, or hatton being put to sleep in the second. EVERYONE who is a big boxing fan

Posted December 19, 2013 4:15 am 


Anonymous

Hec you talk like a duck with a wooden head Floyd dont owe Manny nothing Yes its about Money thats all it will ever be about thats why Floyd changed his name to Money. and if Manny really wants this fight he needs to agree to the terms and it would have happened a long time ago. Guys are linning up to fight Floyd now Manny has to get in line. Kahn is next not because he is good not because he is a treat because it will generate the most Money again thats all its about with Floyd. After that it most likely will be Danny Garcia. Manny needs to beat Bradley and Marquez first

Posted December 19, 2013 4:14 am 


auzbox

Teflon he would not owe 50 ill even schaffer said that and what ever he does owe he would cover fighting joe blo down the street so stop going back to that. Its time to put up or shut up. Amir khan isn’t mannys left fingernail so why would you even bother having that fight. And cause he brings fans is crap, he was bashed by Garcia and it wont go any different with mayweather

Posted December 19, 2013 4:13 am 


auzbox

I don’t have evidence to agree or disagree. There seems o be a lot of funny business going on whether fighter or promoter and I agree 50/50 split was fair 3 years ago and not anymore but if you were Floyd and as confident as you talk would you not fight the 60/40 and get all the doubts off your back?

Posted December 19, 2013 4:09 am 


Teflon

Hec Manny ranked 1 has nothing to do with it, Floyd would give up a belt rather than submit to the likes of Arum. You mention Floyd this and Floyd that but you never mention Arum who held this fight up for years. Dude Manny owes over 50 mil in taxes he has zero neociating power. You act like a guy can just say yeah lets fight and it happens its never that simple, Boxing is a business and it takes alot behind the scenes to make fights happen. This one keeps getting killed in the process. Hec do me a favor go and read the statement Richard Schaffer said about working this fight out, and stop qouting nonsense. There is no future between Arum and Golden to work this out its been tries many times before. Problem is Manny calls no shots he is Arums puppet why you cant see that dude? Prime example why your boy Manny is broke. Floyd will give up a belt that means nothing to him he never get taken advantage of like the rest of these boxers in history he is and always will be his own boss. Manny is ranked number 1 but yet he is not a mandatory challenger how is that even possible and he lost his last 2 out of 3 bouts, Boxing is the most corrupt sport on the planet and if a man is not looking out for himself no one will Floyd in about Money not belts bragging rights or titles thats why he changed his name to money. He wants the biggest grossing bouts before he retires, How a guy like Broner get more sales that Manny who need in the sport this long Bro go and look at Mannys ppv thats says it all. Garcia, Kahn guys like that sell out fights. Floyd will give up a belt rather than fall victim to Arum. Guys are lining up to fight Floyd ask yourself who is lining up to fight Manny?? But again if Manny is serious about a showdown with Floyd he has to get some credible wins under his belt otherwise no one wants to see it. And they dam sure wont pay to see him fight guys like Rios

Posted December 19, 2013 4:07 am 


Tachyon

auzbox when pac was at the top of his game no recent defeats 50\50 split guaranteed he lost it all beacuse he wanted to know all the test dates in advance somthing fishy with the blood or just plain scared. You have to think something is funny getting all your demands and then throwing it all away on random test? Even you have say things that make you go hmmm?

Posted December 19, 2013 4:06 am 


auzbox

If any great fighter in history was told by more than 50% of the boxing fraternity that they were scared of another I guarantee this bs would not be going on

Posted December 19, 2013 3:57 am 


auzbox

And tachyon Floyd just turned down the biggest fight in boxing history because he not on his level, but amir khan or Robert guerro are ha ha ha

Posted December 19, 2013 3:51 am 


auzbox

No jack you are. His name is money mayweather and yet he doesn’t fight the biggest money fights, he would make the most money ever made by any fighter if he fights pac, yet he will lose. And the excuses of he is getting older don’t stand, if you want to be the best you fight the best if you don’t then retire. There is not 1 man that many would not fight in his weight division. Mike Tyson said it himself manny is better than Floyd and when he was champion he fought everyone because he slept better at night knowing if he was or not whether or not he lost, he was at piece knowing he fought the best.

Posted December 19, 2013 3:50 am 


Tachyon

I hear a Pac was just offered 50 million for a role in the HBO series True Blood. Pac turned the part down said the bite scenes remind him of random blood test.

Posted December 19, 2013 3:49 am 


auzbox

Hec dog said brilliantly I to believe he will go down as the greatest ever p4p fighter ever

Posted December 19, 2013 3:46 am 


Jack Mehoff

Hec Doggie you sir are delusional !!

Posted December 19, 2013 3:45 am 


Hec Dog

Teflon my friend, Manny is ranked #1, but Floyd would rather dump his belt? Where is his integrity? He’s looking more foolish every time he finds a way out of this fight. Regardless what his personal feelings are towards Arum, he has an obligation to the public to fight Manny Pacquiao. Yes, this is a business, and the fans are the ones that pay Floyd those million dollar paydays. Do you think the public believes Amir Khan is more deserving of a fight than Manny Pacquiao? No, no one believes that. At some point in a champion’s career, he must forget about the money (Floyd doesn’t need it) and do what is the right thing to do, which is to fight Manny Pacquiao and stop treating boxing fans, not just Manny Pacquiao fans, but all boxing fans like puppets. Just look around and see what the majority of boxing fans are saying about Floyd Mayweather. He is losing respect as a boxer and as a person. This is the fight business, fight your challengers and shut everyone up or retire and leave the fighting to the real fighters. Floyd is wasting his time trying to justify why he won’t fight Manny Pacquiao. Fans don’t care anymore. He’s all over the sports channels and they all say the same thing, Floyd is scared. Instead he fights guys like Amir Khan? Floyd is tarnishing the worth of a boxing champion. Those fighters that paved the way for him must be turning in their graves. Yes he owns all boxing fans this fight, no question about it. I as well as many more boxing fans have more respect for his uncle Roger that was a very good champion and avoided no one. He was a fighter. Floyd Mayweather is only consumed with his personal power, ego, materials and his money. He has deluded the description of what a champion should be. He has more flaws in his character than most. He tries to paint a picture of innocence, but the public isn’t buying it. The bottom line is simply that Floyd has been dominated by the fear of fighting Manny Pacquiao. Fear has a way of paralyzing the mind, body and soul. Floyd has kept his eye on Manny Pacquiao ever since he came on the scene. He’s always been scared of facing this monster of a fighter. He witnessed the destruction and massacre of Manny’s opponents, yes the same guys that Floyd beat much less impressively. Manny was hurting his opponents badly. Some beaten grotesquely, others remaining unconscious. Floyd must have had nightmares and panic attacks at the mere thoughts of having to face this fierce fighting machine. Floyd twists and turns his words as if he were on a roller coaster. His contradictions are constant. Rumor has it that Floyd Mayweather was crying and celebrating once in jail because he had found another way out of this fight. I feel sorry for him in a way. Fear has dominated Floyd. Deep down he’s an insecure little boy afraid to lose. He is a child in a man’s body, always playing it safe and surrounded by his family. He seems to buy his friends, girlfriends and associates. He needs to be praised and admired. He buys everyone materials and gives them money so they can praise him. Manny Pacquiao on the other hand is a man that handles his life like a man. He accepts his defeats and downfalls and blames no one. Manny is loved, adored, admired and respected by everyone all over the world. He has true character and loyalty almost to a fault. He forgives and forgets. Manny Pacquiao will be remembered as one of the greatest or the greatest fighter of all time, but what’s more important is that people will remember him as a great human being. A man first followed by a great champion second. No one will ever accuse Manny Pacquiao of avoiding anyone or anything. Manny is the best.

Posted December 19, 2013 3:39 am 


Tunes

@Prince. Obviously from your name you are a wanna be Broner or maybe a wanna be Nas..

If you watch the coto vs fmj fight you can see floyd was getting hit with the left jab alot. Even against ortiz floyd got hit with the left. If pac lands his straight left on floyd he will be dancing like broner did round 2 against cino

Posted December 19, 2013 3:27 am 


auzbox

well proud African two of them arnt even welters, remembering Floyd is bigger than pac so those two are stupid. Then marquez he would beat and you would say he was old anyway. Bradley many would beat via decision and you would tarnish him for not winning by stoppage, so really he and Floyd need to do the dance

Posted December 19, 2013 2:56 am 


Proud African

Pac should fight Canelo, GGG, Marquez and Timothy Bradley first.

Posted December 19, 2013 2:53 am 


auzbox

when Floyd fought his wife he was sent to jail because the judge was sick of seeing fights of floyds not be stopped ha ha he only won via maj decision ha ha

Posted December 19, 2013 2:53 am 


auzbox

yeh Floyd signed a great contract but one thing will come to a halt when its all done if there is no w next to pac there is going to be so many haters and he will never be a great great which picking opponants means he is not anyway the greats fought the best not easy beats which fighting khan is no better than rios they lighter and cant outbox them difference is khan has a glass jaw rios is tough as nails and never been stopped

Posted December 19, 2013 2:51 am 


auzbox

prince if you Floyd fans just stoped arguing with us pactards which is an insult so right back at you, and put that effort in trying to get them to fight, there would be a winner and one of us wouldn’t have a leg to stand on anymore

Posted December 19, 2013 2:47 am 


The Prince

I’m having too much fun. One more for the road. Floyd made one of the biggest deals in sports history when he signed his six fight retirement tour with Showtime. Meanwhile, Manny gets his face broken and his boxing stock plummets. Let me stop now, before I make a Pactard commit suicide.

Posted December 19, 2013 2:46 am 


auzbox

guess they agree on something manny knows he would beat Floyd and so does floyd

Posted December 19, 2013 2:45 am 


The Prince

typo = can’t refute.

Posted December 19, 2013 2:42 am 


The Prince

In typical Pactard fashion: When they can refute the evidence, they insult the poster. lol… I know it hurts Pactards. The truth hurts. But the truth is also like Alchohol; it hurts at first, but then it heals. Let the truth heal you. Floyd is above Pacquiao and Floyd DOESN’T NEED Pacquiao. Now say this five time every morning. It’s good therapy.

Posted December 19, 2013 2:41 am 


auzbox

Floyd bringing out a new book in 2014, 1000 excuses not to fight the great manny pac

Posted December 19, 2013 2:41 am 


auzbox

evidence don’t count princess till you beat a guy, mouth don’t win fights or broner would beat a klits but we know broner is no great

Posted December 19, 2013 2:35 am 


The Prince

Mayweather made endorsement deals worth multiple millions, including contracts with the WWE. Pacquiao signed endorsement deals worth peanuts in comparison, something Mayweather actually warned Pacquiao about, but Pacquiao didn’t listen. Seriously, I could go on forever with the evidence.

Posted December 19, 2013 2:33 am 


auzbox

glad your anonomous cause if you had a name atleast I could skip what you write cause its just plain stupid

Posted December 19, 2013 2:32 am 


Old Coot

Sigh… Whatever Chicken… We’re sick of your prima-donna drama… The fight can’t be hyped no more so just STFU and PROVE IT!!! You can’t beat the guy by reputation and word of mouth from your fans alone, dude! Time to really EARN a paycheck for once!

Anyhoo… As veteran ESB patron, Hec Dog advised, all boxing and sports fans REALLY need to go to maxboxing.com, and read the article entitled, “The PED Mess”, by Steven Hauser… Turns out FLOYD, NOT MANNY, may be the REAL cheater. So Manny should be demanding special RBT, NOT FLOYD!!

Posted December 19, 2013 2:31 am 


Auzbox

253-159 punches landed so I was wrong nearly 100

Posted December 19, 2013 2:27 am 


Auzbox

If you think Bradley won landing 70 less punches over 12 rounds anonymous must have been your first fight as a fan cause your sillier than floyd thinking he not scared

Posted December 19, 2013 2:23 am 


Auzbox

Manny broke ha ha yeh right he makes back what he owes if he fights Bradley and even Richard scaffer said it wouldn’t be true, you must be floyd prince or princess cause your just as scared as ducky

Posted December 19, 2013 2:22 am 


Anonymous

Kahn is about the money simple as that. And Kahn agreed to the term Manny did not he turned down 40 mil. I bet he wish he has it now. lol. Scared of Pac this is the same guy who cant beat Bradley gets stopped by Marquez and couldnt KO Rios.

Posted December 19, 2013 2:21 am 


The Prince

Every boxer wants to win the Floyd Mayweather Lottery, even Bernard Hopkins who is still trying to convince people he can beat Mayweather. Amir Khan is almost done in boxing and is begging Mayweather for a big pay day. Manny is almost broke and worn out; he’s now even slowly submitting to Floyd Mayweather. When Floyd said, “All roads lead to Floyd Mayweather” he was right. Even boxers in different weight classes are begging Mayweather for a fight. How many of these boxers are begging Manny for a fight? Hilarious.

Posted December 19, 2013 2:18 am 


Farmboxer

If Pac is not on his level, then let him prove it, but no, Void is afraid he will get hurt. Pac is not on his level but Khan is?!

Posted December 19, 2013 2:13 am 


Auzbox

And if a khan fight would make 300 which it won’t manny would make 500 even goldenboy said manny number 2 ppv

Posted December 19, 2013 2:06 am 


Tachyon

Tark your data is all hosed up Ali had tons of cash when he fought Holmes only time Ali was broke is when the USA government took all his money and boxing license all his money was spent on lawyers. After fighting Forman Ali was back to being super rich and never looked back.

Posted December 19, 2013 2:06 am 


Auzbox

Is it in the bible to hit your partner

Posted December 19, 2013 2:04 am 


Teflon

Hec dog Floyd dont owe Manny or the boxing public nothing a man governs his affairs thats in the bible. Your boy got screwed, by Arum and turned down 40 mil for the fight do your homework back in 09 and the years that followed they had tried to make it happen with Arum but to no avail. Now Manny is busted and broke he needs Floyd, on the other hand Floyd left Top rank and became a multi millionaire in five different weight classes. Manny the great? Is a joke these days and he cant sell a fight his ppv sales suck and he only makes about 3 mil a fight. Floyd makes 100 mil a fight do the math. Now why in the hell would he fight Manny just to make Arum richer? Yes he is right Manny is not on his level. Guys are lining up to fight Floyd because he is the best, and dosent have to beg anyone to fight him he makes his own terms and if you want the fight you agree to it simple as that he can fight a guy like Amir Kahn and sell out vegas within hours A fight with Kahn will make 300 mil easy because he has a huge over seas following Floyd would be crazy not to take the fight. You see Arum thought Manny was special he is affraid of needles but he has tattos he gave up 40 mil for s silly drug test, now hella guys are getting caught with there paints down Floyd innovated the sport and exposed the corruption. Hec Manny is done and the public knows it they have spoken, Manny is like a politician that no one votes for, And boxing is a buisness that rates success by sales. And right now Manny is on the bottom of the food chain. He needs to rack up some convincing wins some K.O. over good fighters like Bradley or a Garcia that way Floyd cannot deny him. But in his last fight he had no power Rios stood right in fornt of him and he couldnt KO him, Floyd already publicly said if Manny beat Bradley he would sign him. Manny please ditch Arum so that I can make some money off these Pactards. I am hope this fight Happens no doutb

Posted December 19, 2013 2:03 am 


Auzbox

If floyd was so confident the fight would happen, his father even said a few years ago that he would be worried if his son fought floyd, nothing’s changed except manny is now smarter after being caught

Posted December 19, 2013 2:02 am 


Auzbox

Tark don’t ever compare the greatest ever to floyd your not even worthy of a boxing fan if you do

Posted December 19, 2013 1:53 am 


Auzbox

Of floyd fights manny he will loose in any year that floyd wants to join the loss club

Posted December 19, 2013 1:52 am 


TARK

Ali didn’t fight everybody when he should have fought them.

Larry Holmes was the best heavyweight in the world when Ali defended his title against neophyte Leon Spinks … who was 6-0-1.

Holmes won the stripped title by beating Ken Norton… Ali did fight Holmes years later when he was dead broke and needed money. By that time the fight was meaningless for Holmes. It was a hopeless spectacle that was very tough to even watch it was so one-sided.

Posted December 19, 2013 1:51 am 


Auzbox

And was dropped in the last fight ha ha. Amir khan=lightweight way your words floyd quack quack quack duckweather

Posted December 19, 2013 1:51 am 


Auzbox

See how hard floyd is when he fights a 2-4 pussy like khan, hahahaha TBE my a s s

Posted December 19, 2013 1:49 am 


Just a boxing fan

FM fancies himself a great champ, an ATG, and he probably is.

Ali is an ATG and he fought everybody.

THe four kings are ATGs–they fought each other and everyone else.

FMJ needs to fight MP.

Stop all the BS Floyd and Fight!

Posted December 19, 2013 1:40 am 


The Prince

LMAO! Pactards still trying to claim that Manny agreed to take a drug test when Freddie Roach came out and admitted months after the failed negotiations that Manny never agreed to a test and wanted 50/50 instead of 60/40. That’s what the ‘phone call’ was about. But facts don’t stop Pactards.

Posted December 19, 2013 1:37 am 


Tyrone Jones

Floyd has his opinion but Manny has Occam’s razor because the much smaller Pacman did much better than Floyd against the same opponents.

Posted December 19, 2013 1:35 am 


Ray Ray

Go fight Marquez again or Diaz, Rios or Clottey….manny will lose again in 2014 Floyd wont.

Posted December 19, 2013 1:34 am 


The Prince

Floyd leaves Arum and creates his own boxing empire, becoming Flobes top grossing Athlete of 2012. Manny stays with Arum despite many people warning him, and now he’s almost broke and owes the government a lot of money, and is another bad loss away from Toprank dumping him. This is too easy. Truth is, Floyd DOES NOT NEED Pacquiao, but Pacquiao needs Floyd. Floyd should make him and the Pactards suffer for not demanding Arum make the fight happen when it really mattered. Where’s that new stadium? Wasn’t Manny afraid of needless? I’m sure Manny wished he took that 40 million now.

Posted December 19, 2013 1:33 am 


Blaze

It’s excuse after excuse with Floyd. First he wants the drug test with a 50/50 split, Manny finally agrees. Then he changes it to wanting the test and a 40/60 split, Manny finally agrees. Then he wants a 30/70 split with the drug test. As long as Manny keeps agreeing he will simply come up with a way to negotiate himself out of the fight. Manny could pull 2 million ppv buys in his next 6 fights and Floyd will still say that he can’t agree to 50/50. Fact is that it’s just like Mike Tyson said, he doesn’t want to fight him. And after watching his lil brother Broner get his ass handed to him by a lesser skilled, but aggressive fighter who throws a lot of punches, he’s going to be even harder for Manny to pin down to a fight. It’s a guarantee that Floyd will once again relinquish his belt for the ability to choose who he wants to fight, and it will be inevitably be for far less money than he’d make fighting Pac.

Posted December 19, 2013 1:24 am 


Auzbox

The best GGG at 54 are you joking who has GGG beat no hall of famers idiot

Posted December 19, 2013 1:21 am 


Auzbox

Finish what about cotto? Manny beats them all better dela Hoya, hatton you floydoids are blind the biggest money fight is manny which shows he ain’t no money mayweather he is a duckweather

Posted December 19, 2013 1:19 am 


SUP YALL

Pacquioa needs to know how to conduct buisness better without ARUM, hes all grown up already. Mayweather will do what he does best. Talk mess to promote his buisness. Mayweather is protecting his investment, his “0″. Mayweather doesnt care about his legacy or belts. He cares about MONEY. Hence his nickname. Pacquioa can act like hes a changed man and that he is a God fearing man but he cheated the IRS and was unfaithful to his wife. So Pacquioa, you gotta stop the BS too. Mayweather needs to make it happen. The dialog is always the same with Pacquioa calling out Mayweather and Mayweather dodging talks because of the ”ARUM” excuse. It is really up to Mayweather, he is calling the shots. Arum wants to make money and Mayweather doesnt want Arum to make a dime off the mega fight, has nothing to do with fear or legacy or cheating, or drug testing or any other BS. Mayweather is making it difficult because he hates Bob Arum and his BS as well. So yea, it really is up to Mayweather and he is comfortable with or without Pacquioa. He has that mega deal with Showtime and so he is not in any hurry.

Posted December 19, 2013 1:19 am 


SUP YALL

Well the same can be said about Mayweather too. A ballooned up Marquez at welter when at the time he was at lightweight? Then Mayweather also came in over the welter weight limit, how is that fair?? Also, who really cared for Robert Guerrero? now talking about facing and taking on Amir Khan… that doesnt sound like top notch competition. Cotto gave Mayweather hell whereas Pacquioa battered Cotto. Think about that….

Posted December 19, 2013 1:17 am 


Ya mama

Floyd first made a big thing about manny on steroids, so the fight didn’t happen for a year.
Now he say manny not on. My level, so fight manny and knock him out you dummy.
Manny number 2 WBA so is he going to throw the belt away than fight manny, this make no sense, it’s a 100 million fight, he just don’t want to take a chance he guarantee 30 million a fight , and getting 50+ million is too risky fighting for manny he might lose.

Posted December 19, 2013 1:15 am 


Hec Dog

Floyd Mayweather should be ashamed of himself. He has tarnished the sport of boxing by refusing to fight Manny Pacquiao. All the excuses are laughed at even by his own fans. Prize fighting, The Sweet Science pits one man against the other. Each fighter uses a strategic approach to defeat his opponent. Their fists and determination decide the outcome. This is such a beautiful sport. Floyd has made a very good living off of it. His whole life and everything he’s ever accomplished is because of boxing, yet he disgraces himself by running away from an opponent that has challenged him for years. A man that has two arms and two legs. Manny Pacquiao has gone from the top to the bottom, gotten himself back up, and has done everything humanly possible to fight Floyd Mayweather. Floyd Mayweather thinks he owns boxing. His selfish, egotistical self absorbing self has opened the eyes of all boxing fans. Floyd is afraid. He attacks Manny Pacquiao only by words through all the media outlets. Fans have been pleading for him to make the Biggest Mega Fight in history, and the answer remains the same, no. Comments from such great champions like Duran, Leonard, Holmes, Hagler, Tyson, Holyfield, Chavez have all pointed to Mayweather being afraid to fight Manny. These great champions avoided no one and made pennies to what Floyd makes, yet all of them question Floyd’s heart. History will remember Floyd first for being a boxing champion that would not fight Manny Pacquiao. He doesn’t realize that he is only adding to Manny’s boxing legacy without Manny Pacquiao even fighting. The unbeaten record means nothing. The money he so craves means nothing. The materials he has become obsessed with means nothing. When it’s all over and done with, Floyd Mayweather will have done more to tarnish his own legacy by not fighting Manny Pacquiao. And Floyd is too full of himself to see it.

Posted December 19, 2013 1:15 am 


The Best!

Floyd is right. He would easily beat washed up Manny. Floyd needs a big money fight, then why not fight GGG at 154?

Posted December 19, 2013 1:10 am 


The Prince

Mayweather takes long layoffs, comes back to fight top competition and still dominates. Pacquiao gets knocked senseless, takes a long layoff, and came back against a blown-up 140 pound Rios, who’s easy to hit and box circles around. And Manny STILL GOT HURT.

Posted December 19, 2013 1:08 am 


SUP YALL

Pacquioa needs to know how to conduct buisness better without ARUM, hes all grown up already. Mayweather will do what he does best. Talk mess to promote his buisness. Mayweather is protecting his investment, his “0″. Mayweather doesnt care about his legacy or belts. He cares about MONEY. Hence his nickname. Pacquioa can act like hes a changed man and that he is a God fearing man but he cheated the IRS and was unfaithful to his wife. So Pacquioa, you gotta stop the BS too. Mayweather needs to make it happen. The dialog is always the same with Pacquioa calling out Mayweather and Mayweather dodging talks because of the ” ARUM” excuse. It is really up to Mayweather, he is calling the shots. Arum wants to make money and Mayweather doesnt want Arum to make a dime off the mega fight, has nothing to do with fear or legacy or cheating, or drug testing or any other BS. Mayweather is making it difficult because he hates Bob Arum and his BS as well. So yea, it really is up to Mayweather and he is comfortable with or without Pacquioa. He has that mega deal with Showtime and so he is not in any hurry.

Posted December 19, 2013 1:07 am 


Just a boxing fan

Cmon FLoyd, stop all the BS and FIGHT!

The fan’s need it.

Posted December 19, 2013 1:06 am 


Ya mama

I will admit it, PAC problems is poor managerments get rid of your personal manager what his name Canadian.even get rid of arum, too much guys in on the free pay check.
I was saying a fight with Marquez is a no win, he winning at 147-148 really 149 why fight. Marquez at 145. Even if you win and it’s close you lose, worst if you lose, well here we are, Marquez has study manny tapes all day he has a obsession with manny ask hi family, he was watch manny combinations in slow motion and know the pattern. That is why don’t fight the nut.
And wake up manny you don’t have to put on a boxing display just ko the guys and end the night, this is not sparing, so no surprise I already said watch manny in the try towill sue arum for not having the Floyd fight, it’s just his style trust to easy and get burn and take others advise and get burned too. But it’s his style he don’t understand the value of money, he give too freely thinking it’s set. Open your eyes and Get rid of arum now. Other means will open up.

Posted December 19, 2013 1:05 am 


Ya mama

I will admit it, PAC problems is poor managerments get rid of your personal manager what his name Canadian.even get rid of arum, too much guys in on the free pay check.
I was saying a fight with Marquez is a no win, he winning at 147-148 really 149 why fight. Marquez at 145. Even if you win and it%

Posted December 19, 2013 1:04 am 


The Prince

Oh, and how many top fighters above 147 did Pacquiao fight and beat? None. How many fighters above 147 did Mayweather beat? 3. De La Hoya, Cotto, and Alvarez. Manny weight drained both Cotto and De La Hoya to get his wins. Mayweather is so great, haters are demanding he fight Middleweights and Super Middleweights, while the same haters make all kinds of excuses for why Manny doesn’t have to do the same. Floyd is clearly above.

Posted December 19, 2013 1:01 am 


The Prince

Manny cheated on is wife multiple times like he tried to cheat the IRS, so lets not talk about personal issues. Stick to boxing facts, and the fact is, Floyd won more championship quality fights against top level competition. He won titles he didn’t even take afterwards, and he handed a lot of top fighters their first loss. Most of Manny’s greatest wins came off of fighters Floyd already beaten and make it look easy. Like I said, the evidence speaks for itself. Too bad, Pactards.

Posted December 19, 2013 12:57 am 


broner sux

Not on his level just won more titles in more divisions something floyd can never beat. Simple just like the woman basher couldn’t knock her out (no power)

Posted December 19, 2013 12:50 am 


Auzbox

And your right prince PAC is not on floyds level just 2-3 above

Posted December 19, 2013 12:42 am 


Auzbox

Not on his level just won more titles in more divisions something floyd can never beat. Simple just like the woman basher couldn’t knock her out (no power)

Posted December 19, 2013 12:41 am 


Ray Ray

Garcia/Lara/Sergio all golden boy…there my tip 4 Floyds nxt fight.

Posted December 19, 2013 12:27 am 


The Prince

It’s not bragging if it’s true. The evidence speaks for itself; Manny Pacquiao IS NOT on Floyd Mayweather’s level, both as a fighter and a boxing attraction, and clearly as a business man too.

Posted December 19, 2013 12:26 am 


Tyrone Jones

Floyd needs to be like Pacman, Danny Garcia, Erislandy Lara, etc and fight best

Posted December 19, 2013 12:21 am 


Ray Ray

I just figured it out? A boxers legacy is about losing as much as possible…winning zero titles….and making no money?

Posted December 19, 2013 12:16 am 


Ray Ray

Not about titles or not losing hmmmm interesting……whats it about than. Theyl b rembered 4 there titles, how many records they set i.e PPV , titles in weight classes, how many champs and x champs they fought…in 50 yrs only there records will b in the books. Not about titles or losing, wow iv heard it all.

Posted December 19, 2013 12:11 am 


Whoever

It’s no longer about titles Ray Ray, it ‘s about legacy. Floyd’s legacy is his PPVs and his “0″. That’s what he will be remembered for. He is an amazing fighter, but ain’t near a SRR or Duran in their prime IMO. Pac’s legacy is that he was the most exciting fighter of the decade 2000-2009. A little men who achieved greatness with incredible fast fists and power, a warrior that became an international icon…

Posted December 19, 2013 12:02 am 


Ray Ray

Once again 2015 u might get ur chance 2 claim manny is better….until Floyd isnt no.1 pnd 4 pnd or manny beats him u cant…..I no it hurts but u just have 2 live with it. Manny will lose again b4 his toprank contract ends 2014. Enjoy his nxt 2 fights 3 at best is all he has left….unless there guys like Eios/Diaz/Clottey…..what title does Manny hold??? Oouch, none.

Posted December 18, 2013 11:47 pm 


Whoever

If he would not be such a scumbag and had some pride, he would fight Pac and prove that he is the best. Even if he thinks he is the best, the public, most boxing fans, demands this fight.

Posted December 18, 2013 11:42 pm 


KILLA

Here he goes again not on my level WTF? Paquiao has more fans and followers around the World. Most boxers fans want to see Mayweather get beat. At least Broner has the balls to fight outside Vegas (Mafia town). Mayweather is a liar who pretends to be the best without defeating his nemesis. First steroids, second, blood testing, third money, fourth Bob Arum, fifth not on my level..WTF is next “I don’t fight Filipinos”. Yo, just tell the true Paquiao have a chance to embarrass your A$$…

Posted December 18, 2013 11:42 pm 


Whoever

He is scared, makes excuses , doesn’t want to lose his 0. Floyd fans say it would be no contest. Prove it cowards. I have never seen a boxer who made so many excuses and reasons not to fight another fighter! And this not Toprank issue, it is Floyd. What a pus$y…

Posted December 18, 2013 11:38 pm 


Ray Ray

Voice of boxing-????Floyd picked Baldermir over Margaritto because he had a title? How dare Floyd
Want a title? Ha ha ha

Posted December 18, 2013 11:32 pm 


Shadow Brawler

Mayweather vs. Pacquiao and Mayweather vs. Bradley will never happen unless Mayweather /Showtime and Arum/HBO stop posturing. Also the best fighters are with GoldenBoy /Showtime, another Arum enemy. Top Rank/HBO stock is dropping rapidly. My guess is its exactly what Mayweather wants.

Posted December 18, 2013 10:49 pm 


Tachyon

I give the fight 80/20 in Mayweathers favor. may is a much better boer than PAC and we know PAC has issues with boxers Morales and JMM proved this. PAC has been knocked out twice one in a nasty fashion. PAC has power so that is where the 20 percent for PAC comes in. Now all this talk about scared this and that is nonsense PAC had the fight he wanted money wise ring etc and he balked on a stupid blood test and remember folks it was not taking blood that scared PAC it was the request for random. PAC stated so long as he knew the blood test dates In advance he was fine but if you make them random he would not do it. Olympic athletes get tested random anywhere at any time going to see your grandma, on a date, Tigers girl friend was at The Emmy awards and the testers showed up she had to give a sample before walking to her seat. If other top athletes can do it PAC could have to Mayweather has the test random all the time it was not like May requested PAC take random test alone they both had too. So PAC blew the first fight twice it’s his fault on his shoulders and he can only blame himself. Now Pacs stock is low and he is behind the IRS ball for cash he will do anything to get a fight with May.

Posted December 18, 2013 10:38 pm 


powerhands

They don’t get it shadow. Floyd has a contract with showtime. He is in no rush to fight PAC. Floyd is set. Even if he loses he’s still good. The man pays for amusement Parks to be open only for his family and friends. floyd is in no rush to fight pac. Pac could get knocked out three more times, and people would still be hollering that floyd needs to fight him. Hes probably saving pac for last because he knows he can always count on you all. Id rather see Bradley and Floyd. Two undefeated fighters.

Posted December 18, 2013 10:34 pm 


123 =VI

Floyd is right not unless Pedqiiao gets away with testing.

Posted December 18, 2013 10:33 pm 


Jack Mehoff

Hey come on now Floyd !! Step up to the plate already !!!!

Posted December 18, 2013 10:33 pm 


Whoever

Deluded…hope he gets beat, then he will be brought back to reality…

Posted December 18, 2013 10:25 pm 


Shadow Brawler

Like him or hate him, Mayweather has redefined prizefigthing. Every boxing prospect’s goal is to reach that level and be in the driver seat. Cotto is another example. If you don’t who they’re fighting, don’t ppv. It’s in their best interest to fight the fights that’ll sell. It’s a business and at this point it looks like Pac needs Floyd more than he needs him.

Posted December 18, 2013 10:19 pm 


LIGHTS OUT !!

*?

Posted December 18, 2013 10:16 pm 


lman

Why he feels he needs to talk about Manny not being on his level I just dont understand, garnering publicity? for what exactly?

Posted December 18, 2013 10:16 pm 


LIGHTS OUT !!

Cmon Junior step up already best fight , biggest money maker . Could be more profitable that you’re last fight , step up ALREADY enough with the excuses !!

Posted December 18, 2013 10:15 pm 


Adrian

Guys like sredmond and peej think PAC has no chance and basically live in this website attacking PAC but why is that??? If PAC is a lower level then mayweather and he dosent ” deserve the fight with mayweAther then why are you so obsessed attacking him in every article ??
Have a life

Posted December 18, 2013 10:02 pm 


Adrian

PEEJ

Pac still needs to handle unfinished business with Bradley. There is a reason Arum said he was fighting in April when then knew Floyd said he was fighting in May.

Posted December 18, 2013 12:44 pm

It thought the road block was bob arum??? What happened now??? Bob is no problem it just that floyed think PAC is not in his “level “. ???lol and we all thought it was all because of bob arum … Lol

Posted December 18, 2013 9:53 pm 


The Voice of Boxing

Ali called out the best fighters. He did not wait for them to call him out. He felt he was the best and would not tolerate someone saying they were as good or better. Floyd prefers to say he is the best without proving it.
Yes he is great but how great? Does he want history to show he ducked Manny? How do you blindiots feel about that? As a boxing fan I think the fight is past its best date but it seems Pactards want it. the average fan wants is, the boxing bodies want it, most ex fighters want it.
Seems like only Floydiots, Floydmaniacs, Floydbots and blindiots are the only ones holding out. I wonder what’s in it for them? They are not getting any money. Why are they arguing about $ then? It’s crazy.

Posted December 18, 2013 9:53 pm 


The Voice of Boxing

Tachyon, that is just my point. You blindiots just can’t see that once you keep on defending Floyd he will pick and choose the easiset fights. I was a huge fan of Roy Jones but I wanted him to clean out the middle, super middle and lt heavy divisions but he didn’t. That hurt his legacy. Floyd will have the same problems later.
Only blindiots refuse to see that Floyd does not want this fight. He is his own boss as he says and if he wanted Manny, that fight would have been made. Floyd loves money, he loves an easy fight and he loves titles. Do not let him fool you, he took Baldomir over Margarito because he had a title.
But he refuses to take the biggest pay of his life? He gives up a title because Manny is #1 contender? Is he a follower of Bowe who dumped the WBC belt in a garbage bin rather than face Lewis? Come on, he and his family keep saying Manny is easy. But when Manny was hot first they said he was draining guys or beating old guys or Floyd’s leftovers. Then it was PEDS, now he is no good or can’t draw. I am just so tired of the nonsense. Fight or retire and blindiots, open your eyes and see!

Posted December 18, 2013 9:48 pm 


Sheriff Joe’s chicken

Delk1- Yea, thats basicly it. We read between the lines but then again why doesn’t he just repeat it over and over again? Money. The way Floyd says it is that Pacquioa can’t sell PPV fights as good as him, which I would have to respectfully disagree. Pacquioa has a good fanbase and following. It would be a mega fight even if Floyd thinks it wouldn’t be or if Pacquioa is washed up. It would sell really well. They have a built history of drama between the 2.

Posted December 18, 2013 9:41 pm 


DELK1

Basically Floyd is saying, we are on two different levels. AND don’t expect to get 50 50 split or 60 40

Posted December 18, 2013 9:28 pm 


Anonymous

Let me make this clear to all you Floydiots. Personally, I could care less who your boss fights. All I am saying is that instead of mouthing off like he has for the past 4+ years about Manny and all the negative stuff he should just shut up. It makes him look bad criticizing Manny for catch weights and then he does the same thing.

Posted December 18, 2013 9:21 pm 


Ray Ray

REM- you need 2 do your home work a little better or change sources…..Floyds been in there with more champs, more x champs, had more title fights. More lineal titles more time spent in the top 10 pound 4 pound. More time spent at no.1 and fought more guys who at the time in top 10 pnd 4 pbd list……so your wrong.

Posted December 18, 2013 9:10 pm 


powerhands

It feels good to finally be your own boss doesn’t it Floyd. Your father was a boxer. Your uncle was a boxer. And now you. Look at what the boxing politics has taught you all over the years. You have experienced the in, and the out. The Don kings, and the bob arums. I bet it was like being stuck on a job, and you say every day,” If I find another job, I’m out of here”. That take me back to an interview a few years back when you said, ” I don’t need PAC. And I know you don’t need him. Your just fine. It’s like a business competing with it’s competitor, main goal is to put them out of business. Especially if you used to work for them. Khan has a fan base. It’s all about the Benjamins. It’s not just a sport to Floyd. It’s a business sport. A lot of fighters are now learning that. If and when Floyd finally fights and beat PAC so easily, you all will finally realize that it was probably 70% business. Lol! Get it? Floyd and his team has good knowledge on how to dissect fighters. He knows PAC fighting style. Floyd will keep ignoring a lot of fighting fans and continue to rein.

Posted December 18, 2013 9:09 pm 


Sheriff Joe’s chicken

von Pugsly- Juiced up Marquez?? Yea. Most retarded accusation. Marquez tested CLEAN. Were you there grabbing his junk and sniffing it? Or what do you base your findings of Marquez using PEDs on sir?

Posted December 18, 2013 9:05 pm 


Richard Morales

I believe that Manny Pacquiao is at Mayweather level his career has showed that. Mayweather is a coward and is trying to avoid pacquiao or maybe creating drama. Both of them are good fighters but like I said he is a coward and he demonstrated in the fight against Victor Ortiz when the referee was not watching, and then he says protect your self at all times! That demonstrate hi is a coward and don’t want to loose his undefeated record against the number one contender Manny Pacquiao. He knows Manny is back and he is just afraid, that’s the example he is giving to everyone be afraid like me. Don’t take the risk to become better! I will be known as Floyd the coward Mayweather!

Posted December 18, 2013 9:05 pm 


Floyd XYLOCAINE Mayweather

I want to see Ms XYLOCAINE retire soon.

Posted December 18, 2013 9:04 pm 


von Pugsly

The sad thing is that Floyd probably would UD Manny if they did fight. I really do think Floyd might be the best out there. But given his careful avoidance of certain challenges over the past six years we’ll never really know. Have fun watching him ride out his career with the likes of Khan, Alexander, Porter, Brook, and Spadafora. Maybe toss in Malinaggi while you’re at it.

Posted December 18, 2013 9:03 pm 


YO MOMMA

Zera- Good post

Posted December 18, 2013 9:02 pm 


von Pugsly

A juiced up Marquez took four fights to land his perfect counterpunch. It would probably only take him three fights to do the same to Floyd.

Posted December 18, 2013 9:01 pm 


zera

Dear Floyd,

I’m a Pac fan to start. But Floyd, I know, deep within, YOU HAVE THE SKILLS to beat and outlast Pac, but why? why are you denying us fight fans the only fight that is meaningful, not only NOW, BUT FOR THE PAST 4YRS…

Pac already agreed to all your terms, may it be Drug Testing or Purse Split. Then why? why are you still not into this fight? what else do you want? If Pac is not on your level, then who is?

If talking about Ring IQ, we all know you are superior, compared to Pac who have difficulties against smart boxers. Pac is an easy fight for you, c’mon we all know that. But we just want that fight to have the closure we all needed.

Floyd, you have a Perfect record, all consists of hall of famers and future hall of famers, Castillo, Corarles, Baldomir, Gatti, De la Hoya, Hatton, Mosley, Cotto, Guerrero, Alvares. then how is Pac any different?

Posted December 18, 2013 9:00 pm 


von Pugsly

Floyd’s right. Manny is not on his level. He’s actually on a higher level. Manny has fought the best and mostly won but lost a few along the way. Floyd doesn’t fight the best but he does fight the rest and does whatever he can to preserve his 0 and make millions from his legion of deluded fans. Have fun watching Floyd take on Khan next, chumps. Maybe he’ll still fight Devon Alexander after the Khan fight, too. And I see that Paul Spadafora will be waiting in the wings after that. Floyd is on a real special level with these match-ups.

Posted December 18, 2013 8:57 pm 


Tachyon

The Voice of Boxing you can yelp all you want when your on the bottom of the mountain looking up. Pac Got booted out of Olympus by a right hand dropped him back to earth and the bottom of the Pac no pun intended. Floyd is the king of the hill and Pac has to do some boot licking before Floyd will even notice him for a fight and rightly so. Pac should have taken the damn random so simple no matter what you say Pac screwed himself out of the fight plus Arum blocking so he could build some lame stadium and try to make a money grab.

Posted December 18, 2013 8:55 pm 


Pacquiao v Mayweather

Pacquiao will really go on the attack against Mayweather, much more than he usually does, it won’t be good for Floyd Mayweather.

Posted December 18, 2013 8:34 pm 


Bowe Heavy weight

Floyd should put the belt in the garbage like I did. If he is a dog like Lennox he will sneak in the garbage like a thief and retrieve it. I was not scared of Lennox. I just wanted to see him as the dog he was. Floyd will do the same to Manny. Together we will then join Kentucky Chicken and be seen as martyrs.

Posted December 18, 2013 8:28 pm 


TARK

I don’t know what it is about this fight.. People want to see it.. Pac is not Floyd’s most dangerous opponent.. Lara is.. But Pac and Floyd will pull record PPVs… It just will… The fight will blow the doors off any fight, or sporting event in world history.

Posted December 18, 2013 8:27 pm 


Floyd XYLOCAINE Mayweather

Floyd is just trying to creat more hate towards himself so that ppl will buy his next fights, hoping he will lose.
Same old trick
YAWN

Posted December 18, 2013 8:10 pm 


chubby

we wanna see Floyd jr fight Sergio Martinez

Posted December 18, 2013 8:09 pm 


SREDMOND

I don’t like dogging Manny, he’s a GREAT ATG fighter and his accomplishments speak for themselves, that said the FMJ brand is superior in execution, the thought of Floyd Mayweather eyes rolled back in his head on the canvas still sounds like Santa Claus, whereas PAC Man was in that very position one fight removed… It can happen to anyone in theory, yet Mayweathers aura remains intact and it’s hard to see PAC Man upsetting that Apple Cart without taking the kind of chances that would get him fcked up..

Posted December 18, 2013 7:42 pm 


Tachyon

Let us see what has has both fighters done to help promote the great fight Mayweather vs Pac. 1. Floyd undefeated. 2. New multi million dollar showtime deal. 3. tearing up PPV numbers. 4. Smashed Canelo making his star even brighter. 5. Cleaned up outside the ring image. What has Pac done. 1. Lost to Bradly. 2. Knock into a coma by JMM. 3. Broke IRS on his back. 4. derailed original fight afraid of random blood test. 5. Pac stock in the trash can. Well damn looks like Mayweather is carrying the promotional load and Pac is just extra baggage killing the promotion. Pac does not even deserve 30% give 20% only gets 30% if he sings with Mayweather promotions. Mayweather will even throw in an account.

Posted December 18, 2013 7:14 pm 


Ray Ray

Teflon-Agree. Garcia is with Golden boy so hes probs out of the question. If he gets beat by Bradley again hes F’d. Manny vs Prod would b fireworks…….thats probally far 2 much of a risk…I think Manny is running out of options and time….Floyds playing the waiting game, that been said Floyd is older. Surely manny vs JMM is done and dusted?

Posted December 18, 2013 7:05 pm 


SUP YALL

Pacquioa is obviously stupid. He can not do buisness well as you tell with his IRS problems both in the US and the Phillipines. Arum is PIMPING him, that I agree. He needs to dump Arum and take a small cut and fight Mayweather. HOWEVER, Mayweather is delaying the fight by not making himself accesible. The neverending excuses with ARUM is very convinient. So yea Mayweather is not helping in making the fight also.

Posted December 18, 2013 6:57 pm 


Teflon

Ray Ray look for Manny to fight another bum like Rios then Arum will set up a Bradley Rematch then Marquez 5 Arum has no interest in Floyd and Golden boy dosent want to work with Arum because they tried many times to make this fight Happen and he derailed it, Manny has zero power….

Posted December 18, 2013 6:57 pm 


Ray Ray

Every1 is getting a little carried away….Manny will have 2 keep winning as will Floyd. Khan, Garcia,Sergio r Floyds nxt options what r Mannys? Bradley?Provodnikov?Garcia? No sure things there 4 manny. 2015 with both still winning is the only way this fight happens. And when it does happen and Floyd wins in a lesson he will still get no credit of Mannys fanboys. Manny will lose within the nxt 2 fights if he fights the guys iv mentioned…

Posted December 18, 2013 6:53 pm 


SUP YALL

Oh I see you mean like when Mayweather fought a bloated Marquez at welter and then failed to make weight and opted to pay a fine instead to be the bigger man in that ring? Yea i fail to see how Mayweather was fair in that fight against Marquez. (?)

Posted December 18, 2013 6:52 pm 


REM

ROTF…. please Floyd hurry up and anounce your fight with the extremely dangerous legendary A mere con lets see how many domestic ppvs that sells. Showtime doesn’t air in the UK boys ha ha.

Posted December 18, 2013 6:50 pm 


Teflon

Manny already turned down 30 mil to make this fight happen, then he goes on to only get 3 mil to fight Marquez only to get KTFO, Who is advising this guy he needs to get rid of Arum who is pimping him. Cotto was dehydrated and had to make welter when Pac beat him, Floyd fought Cotto at 154, now Floyd is his only option to get out of tax trouble if he agrees to 30 percent its still more than he made in his last ten fights. I see why he is broke the Rios bout had a very poor following he made peanuts Problem is once again Arum Floyd refises to be taken advantage of by Top rank like they did him in the past when they managed him thats why he left. I dont understand who a guy like Manny allows himself to be used and abused by this greedy dude. Now his career is coming to a close and he still cant get the big fight like Floyd Garcia or a guy like Thurman because Arum only will allow him to fight other Top rank fighters and pay him nothing. Big fight equal big pay days, You will never see Manny fight a guy like Canelo or Floyd Arum has him on lock…

Posted December 18, 2013 6:47 pm 


SUP YALL

I can tell ya one thing Pacquioa beat/BUSTED up Cotto and Cotto gave Mayweather a run for his money. So how is Pacquioa not on Mayweather’s level?

Posted December 18, 2013 6:46 pm 


Anonymous

I am tired of the dumb excuses. He and his family have used every excuse to face Manny

Posted December 18, 2013 6:42 pm 


Tachyon

Floyd does not like Manny are Arum after the trouble they gave him simple as that. Plus Floyd has the high ground he does not need Manny to hit PPV home runs. He has 200+ million dollars contract with show time and averages 40 million dollar purse + another 40+ from PPV sales. He does not need Manny for any reason. Pac is the one in the poor house and needs Floyd.

Posted December 18, 2013 6:42 pm 


SREDMOND

Again let’s see Manny go beat that kid? He would bang little PAC up because Mannys not the defender Floyd is… Again how much better that Brandon Rios is Canelo??? Plenty Rios is a known Margarito knockoff coming outta the Same gym and eating punches for breakfast… Awesome win for no titles or bragging rights just showing you can defeat an obvious mark.. Understandable after almost getting killed in the ring…

Posted December 18, 2013 6:41 pm 


SUP YALL

Floyd is like: ” Pacquioa cant pull PPV sales like Robert Guerrero.”

Posted December 18, 2013 6:40 pm 


REM

Well let Floyd continue to live vicariously through Marquez because he doesn’t have it in him that’s for sure. Pac give me all your money and ill fight you gtfoh.

Posted December 18, 2013 6:38 pm 


SUP YALL

Im just saying FLOYD if you gave Robert “the ghost” Guerrero a chance why not Manny Pacquioa?

Posted December 18, 2013 6:37 pm 


SREDMOND

REM, we have 3 judges and an embarrassing rape video where Floyd’s on top to show us who won that fight your decisions about Floyd being legit mean nada if JMM thought he had a chance in the world he woulda done the Whine job he does with everyone else… But he was in that ring with Floyd’s foot in his colon.

Posted December 18, 2013 6:37 pm 


SUP YALL

Im guessing Robert Guerrero and Amir Khan are more on Floyd’s level.

Posted December 18, 2013 6:36 pm 


REM

Canelo the most coddled fighter in boxing get outta here with this guy. Good young fighter we’ll see what he’s made of when he starts fighting at jmw but right now give me a break the kids got a lot to prove.

Posted December 18, 2013 6:34 pm 


SREDMOND

Barrera and Morales are inferior to Marquez historically and unlike Manny Floyd OWNED Marquez terribly whereas the only decisive win in the PAC vs Marquez saga is Mannys face with JMM’s 40 year old right hand buried in his skull..

Posted December 18, 2013 6:34 pm 


Tomato Can

Don’t foget what happend to the last guy Mayweather said wasn’t on his level. Hopefully we’ll get to see if Mayweather is right or wrong about this statement…

Posted December 18, 2013 6:33 pm 


REM

Marquez accepting the money does nothing to legitimize Floyd’s win over him.

Posted December 18, 2013 6:30 pm 


SREDMOND

At 152 or 150 I would have serious doubts as to PAC beating Canelo, at 154 I’m not sure he gets to Cotto these days.. That’s why another bout was proposed at a catchweight to Miguel who rejected the offer… Mayweather will never have Pacs rep as it pertains to manipulating weight..

Posted December 18, 2013 6:28 pm 


SREDMOND

Typically weak argument Hidalgo MANNY is the guy who pulled 3
Fighters down a total of 13 pounds
Mayweather brought one EXTRA big Jr MW
Down 2 pounds meanwhile Manny employed the practice against veterans that would
Have a harder time recouping… I never gave PAC Grief but like I told you earlier your a hypocrite ….

Posted December 18, 2013 6:24 pm 


REM

Canelo won his jmw tittle from a no name ww and Trout first tv appearance was against Cotto are you kidding me with these fugazees ROTF. .. Outside of BHops longevity what on earth places him above Berrera and Morales historically nothing. Floyd cleary shortchanged himself in his only win against an atg and has no legitimate wins over an atg. I’m a big Cotto fan he’s a hofer but not an atg if he beats Martinez different story but right now no. This is the gimmick that is Floyd.

Posted December 18, 2013 6:12 pm 


Hidalgo

Fact is, Floyd still gave himself a distinct physical advantage over Marquez by not making the originally contracted weight. There was a reason for the catchweight. The same reason Floyd agreed to fight Alvarez at a catchweight. Floyd is really happy with catchweights. As long as he’s not the one having to make it.

Posted December 18, 2013 6:04 pm 


SREDMOND

JMM took the $600k he does not also get a “get out of jail free card” besides why not have him face Mayweather at a full 147 like he did Manny and Bradley??? I will even let you put Maidana in the ring at the same time HAHAHAHA!!

Posted December 18, 2013 6:03 pm 


blackbert

The only fighting that mexicans and Pilipinos do thee days is with there mouth; although, their retarded fans think that they can fight for them by creating more excuses than there are words in a dictionary as to why they shouldn’t have to fight the best. Mayweather, “As usual May is ‘May Day,’ everything is set except an opponent. Pacquiao can be the opponent, or he can clear up his unfinished business with Bradley and see me in Sept. because Bradley is more deserving.” Weeks later, Pacquiao comes out saying he’ll be fighting in April against Alvarado, Bradley, or Marquez and that he wants Mayweather. The only logical conclusion to be drawn from this is that he’ll be fighting Alvarodo next. Marquez said that he’s tired of fighting the same guy over and over, and Bradley has been trying to rematch him to clear his name since their bout happened. He won’t take the fight. That leaves Alvarado, a “C” level fighter who is coming off a loss just like Rios. What a loser. He even refuses to fight Cotto at 154, even though Cotto drained himself down to 145lb after coming off a terrible beating from mexicancheato. Cotto not going to help him either. Cotto also refuses to Cayellow redeem himself by trying to prove that styles make fights after getting beatdown by Floyd. Martirosian took his beating like a man before bumping heads so that he could quit. Angulo took his beating like a man before he quit. Trout took his beating like a man. Now it’s time for Cayellow to stop ducking and take his whooping, from the “King” of the jr. middleweights, Erislandy Lara, like a man too.

Posted December 18, 2013 6:02 pm 


SREDMOND

Fact is Marquez signed on the dotted line and he knew the terms 2 pounds does NOT lose you 12 rounds… Marqiez could not beat Floyd with 6 shooter and a grenade, typical excuses for an appalling loss..

Posted December 18, 2013 6:01 pm 


SREDMOND

We have to look at risk perception fighters like Rios and a 40 year old Marquez are treated as challenges for PAC Man, neither of these boxers would be allowed in the ring with Floyd Mayweather… Pacs 35 could he overcome the bulk and power of Canelo? I doubt it not because Alvarez is as dynamic as Manny but because he is VERY good and BIG enough that his blows would be a lot for Manny to handle… Now look at the older Mayweather who easily outboxed him and used supreme defense to steal Canelos advantages in power, youth and size… Mayweather is physically no ones Jr MW yet his skills allow him 2 defeat 2 HOFERS in Championship fights and a Young Stud 13 years his junior and 15 pounds heavier… Floyd was challenged by a LHW because the puzzle is so amazing people don’t care who beats him as long as someone does…Pac Man had been robbed of his power and after Marquez his ferocity, Mayweather would quickly tame him and he would soon look like that pooch and namesake of his on a leash..

Posted December 18, 2013 5:59 pm 


Hidalgo

“Mayweather did NOT cheat JMM the contract provided for a range and additional monies for an overage, JMM signed, agreed and fought his loss is just another one and you note he never discussed a rematch under ANY conditions because NO fighter, not PAC or any them made him feel ridiculous like Floyd Mayweather…”

Not quite. The contract was hastily rewritten to allow Mayweather to break the originally contracted weight, for a monetary penalty.

Posted December 18, 2013 5:53 pm 


SREDMOND

Barerra and Morales are NOT in Hopkins Class Morales was washed up so long ago it’s not even funny… Fact is Calzaghe never fought anything but an older inconsistent version of Hopkins and he did no impress during that endeavor…Hops is the best older age boxer ever that said he’s still not the fighter he used to be.. The version of him that cornholed Trinidad makes easy work of Joe with all that slapping and activity… Joes best win was taking Kesslers 0 and sweeping the cards… Scraping by 43 year old Hops lefts as many questions as answers..

Posted December 18, 2013 5:49 pm 


SREDMOND

Mayweather did NOT cheat JMM the contract provided for a range and additional monies for an overage, JMM signed, agreed and fought his loss is just another one and you note he never discussed a rematch under ANY conditions because NO fighter, not PAC or any them made him feel ridiculous like Floyd Mayweather…

Posted December 18, 2013 5:44 pm 


PEEJ

Floyd will never agree with Arums terms. Floyd is clearly in the driver seat and if they don’t agree with what he has to say then they don’t want the fight plain and simple.

Posted December 18, 2013 5:32 pm 


Burn1222

Moonshineman

Floyd is a business man and will fight him. He is a master of manipulation. This statement is the beginning of the fight build up. If you can’t see it then you are blind. there are so many people who have wanted this fight so badly they would pay 99.99 for this fight. Doesn’t change the fact that what I said won’t happen.

Posted December 18, 2013 5:25 pm 


Ray Ray

Lets not 4get the 1st fight was cancelled due 2 toprank wanting more money…..which at the time would have been mannys biggest pay day….This fight hasnt happend due 2 politics….both these guts would love 2 prove who the best of the era is there fighters, thats what fighters do…..they fight. This fight is all about the power struggle b4 they get in the ring……next topic?

Posted December 18, 2013 5:24 pm 


Ray Ray

Voice of boxing- 1 problem there….Manny vs Rios was a PPV non event. His likely nxt opponent Bradley? Has less PPV sway then you. And Floyd vs Khan wont b a flop it will do massive numbers. 2015 in May u heard it here 1st. If the fight does happen 4 some slight reason b4 than Floyd will have everything in his favour, he will never agree with Arums terms…

Posted December 18, 2013 5:19 pm 


moonshineman

Burn1222

Come on people get real! Why types of boxers beat PAC? Counter punchers! who is the fastest feet (runner) in boxing above 140? Probably the best counter puncher at 147 to 154. Has enough power to keep pac from attacking like he did against Marquez. Floyd would win by shut out.
Posted December 18, 2013 5:10 pm

Then, why doesn’t little floyd fight Pacquiao and make the 100 Million???

Posted December 18, 2013 5:16 pm 


moonshineman

If a fight with Pacquiao would earn little floyd 100 million, he IS on little floyd’s level. THE TRUTH?. little floyd doesn’t have the stones to fight pacquiao.

Posted December 18, 2013 5:13 pm 


Ray Ray

I didnt hear or read Floyd say the fight wont happen? It wont happen at 50/50 and it shouldnt….this fight isnt happening until may 2015. Manny is off contract with Arum yr ending 2014. Pac promotes himself and takes out the middle man…..wheres the articles on the young talent and what there doing nxt…this conversation is a wast of time until this time nxt yr..

Posted December 18, 2013 5:13 pm 


The Voice of Boxing

Just come out and say it again, you fear for your health blah, blah blah and will never face Manny. I am tired of the dumb excuses. He and his family have used every excuse to face Manny when we all feel he should be the clear favourite to win that match.
There is no way any expert would pick Manny to win. I see Floyd as 65-75% favourite. It will be both guys biggest pay day ever. The split should be 60-40 for Floyd at this time. If he faces Khan and the PPV is a dud and Manny faces another guy and the PPV is a huge hit then it proves they both need a decent B side. Canelo drove the PPV because when he was not on Guererro it bombed. He should force the fight now and demand lion’s share. After all he and family say Manny is easy to beat.

Posted December 18, 2013 5:10 pm 


Burn1222

Come on people get real! Why types of boxers beat PAC? Counter punchers! who is the fastest feet (runner) in boxing above 140? Probably the best counter puncher at 147 to 154. Has enough power to keep pac from attacking like he did against Marquez. Floyd would win by shut out.

Posted December 18, 2013 5:10 pm 


Havoc

Oh ok, now I got it when Floyd said not on the same level….in PPV buys. Yup, another excuse to avoid Pacman. Now I believe Bob that Floyd is scared to lose the O. Alrighty then Floyd, go ahead and announce what you have pick (cherry pick). One of your amazing talent is you know who is ripe for the picking one of the best in history of boxing.

Posted December 18, 2013 5:03 pm 


REM

An older version of BHop went on to become lineal lhw champion legitimizing Ca lzalges win over him. Guys like Marquez, Barrera and Morales are p4p in Bhops class historically so Pac has fought dudes on that level. Had Floyd not blatantly cheated Marquez I wouldn’t have this argument but that’s just the fighter Floyd is below C alzalge.

Posted December 18, 2013 5:03 pm 


spartacus 65

Good day gentlemen. I must say I have to agree with Anonymous here. This fight or this DREAM fight is just a glorified SIDE SHOW. Neither of these men are in their prime. Junior is mow 37 and Pacquiao 35 years of age. People are living off of what could’ve been. Not the reality of the situation. The bout is four to five years past its due date. Think in terms of Roy Jones fighting Hopkins the second time atound, nine years layer more or less. The fans deserve better. Way too much is being made out of both of these men. The stories are simply recycled dribble of previously recycled dribble. Just food for thought. Cheers.

Posted December 18, 2013 5:01 pm 


SREDMOND

REM you are CRAZY, Canelo actually was the Jr MW Champion and defeated Trout to Unify what the hell did Margarito EVER accomplish at Jr MW with the EXCEPTION of losing?? He beat one guy with no name and did not look good doing it…Shane had already SMASHED Tony and Cotto later got revenge… Margaritos tenure at 154 was a horror show (Manny included) Try as you might Pac Man gets cred for the win but Margarito was NEVER a player at 154 pounds whereas Canelo did solidified his position by beating Trout…. We will NEVER see Manny at 150 or 154 again because he cannot fight at that weight NO SHAME but lets get real….

Posted December 18, 2013 4:48 pm 


deepwater1234

duck duck duck goose. excuses excuses excuses. pretty sad

Posted December 18, 2013 4:47 pm 


REM

P acs 8th tittle is just as legit as Floyd’s 4th lineal.

Posted December 18, 2013 4:42 pm 


SREDMOND

Calzaghe fought in 2 divisions and that’s being KIND his LHW run was against 2 guys in their 40s and the one he was dominant against was beyond washed up… FEW real boxing people would give Calzaghe a chance against a solid version of Roy Jones Jr who managed to get Joe on the canvas despite being the text book version of a washed up boxer…. That’s like Canelo stroking his bone over beating on Sugar Shane Mosley who was a DEAD MAN by then.. At least Alvarez was young feasting on an old Champ which is what happens in the game…

Posted December 18, 2013 4:41 pm 


PEEJ

Bhop is better than anybody Floyd has ever fought, he is also better than anybody Pac has ever fought. But the problem is Calzaghe didn’t fight him in his prime. As a matter of fact the only person he fought in there prime was Lacy.

Posted December 18, 2013 4:38 pm 


SREDMOND

….REM if Floyd fought a 43 year old then increasingly inconsistent version of a fighter that put him on the canvas and he got an S/D against he would be laughed off the planet because of the perception of his SKILLS…. Look at Hopkins record after the age of 40? how many losses did he book despite some very notable wins? and the BEST Joe could do was a SLOPPY S/D…. Guys don’t wanna give Floyd credit for opponents in their 20′s and 30′s Joe Calzaghes record reflects his BEST win as being Undefeated Mikkel Kessler not that lame S/D against Hopkins…Mayweather did not wait till the end of his career to start facing some name guys over here then trying to add a crippled Roy Jones to sell a legacy that did not reflect clashes with those boxers at the right or even close to the right time

Posted December 18, 2013 4:38 pm 


SREDMOND

REM you mean risking fighting Rustico Torrecampo, Marquez and Singsurat? Guys who all wasted Pac Man? Mayweather fought Marquez and abused him and if you wanna run those other two nobodies at Floyd I am sure he can remain undefeated facing them everyday till 3 years after his death…

Posted December 18, 2013 4:32 pm 


SREDMOND

NO Eric, I think that 0 losses coming from a fighter who started at 130 went to 154, became Champ in 5 Weight Classes, 4 of them Lineal, who has lost 1 card against countless World Champions, HOF fighters in over 20 World Title fights is PROVEN special because ONLY one man did it… Just as I give Manny big cred for his SOLID 7 weight classes that 8th with Margo means little to me Tony was NO ONE at 154 and… Mayweather was Lineal in what 80% of the divisions he was Champ in Manny 50% AGAIN both are ATGS beyond question.. But Floyds still on Top and Manny is Elite

Posted December 18, 2013 4:30 pm 


REM

SRed that’s what happens when you take the risk necessary to become the goat bar none proven by the accolades laid at your feet. Ali losses, Robinson losses, Leonard losses. While Floyd still hasn’t passed C alzalge who beat BHop. Someone better than anyone Floyd’s ever fought.

Posted December 18, 2013 4:25 pm 


SREDMOND

Pacquiaos LOSSES proved he LOST which is usually part of the business if there was a PERFECT formula for boxing at the World Class level and remaining undefeated then we would have seen this MORE times in the history of the sport but alas its a rarity… I am a HUGE Pac Man fan but the FACT is he has been bested on more than one occasion and stopped..If Mayweather LOST his detractors would rip him apart even though he is pushing 37 in a couple months… Sell this elsewhere

Posted December 18, 2013 4:24 pm 


Tachyon

Well going to eat ESB blocking my post but seems others can say what they want and this site does not mind.

Posted December 18, 2013 4:22 pm 


eric

If you take the time to read my statement s, theirs proof but you gota be willing to be intellectually honest first, but your not willing to tell the truth.

Tommy morrison also believed he didnt have HIV, but it didnt mean he didnt sedrmen.

Posted December 18, 2013 4:20 pm 


Tachyon

To funny esb want let my post show even though it says there is a duplicate.

Posted December 18, 2013 4:19 pm 


eric

Gota go, peace, even to you sedrmen, peace brother.

Posted December 18, 2013 4:17 pm 


SREDMOND

Eric, I don’t see you “proving” anything absent your frustration don’t feel bad you are NOT alone!! LOL

Posted December 18, 2013 4:16 pm 


What’s Good for the Goose

BRONER LOST TO LITTLE DE LEON, BUM QUINTERO, OLD MAN MALIGNAGGI WHO HAD JUST GOT BEAT BY CANO, AND KOTELNIK, KHAN, AND ALEXANDER’S LEFTOVERS BUT HE’D DESTROY RIOS LIKE FLOYD DID GATTI, DESTROY MATTHYSSE, AND CAUSE MARQUEZ BIG PROBLEMS? HAHAHAHA

YDKSAB. HAHAHAHA

BRONER IS A HYPE JOB. 24-4

”HE LOOKS SO DAMN UNBEATABLE”. HAHAHAHA

YOU GOT DEALT WITH. YOU GOT BRONER-ED. MAN UP AND LICK YOUR WOUNDS BOY.

SAYONARA. HAHAHAHA

Posted December 18, 2013 4:14 pm 


eric

Pacmans losses proves he aint afrid to mix it up.

Rocky and joe c have zero losses and I rate manny higher than both of them, I mean your saying zero losses means that much.

Sure you can pick rockey mar… and joe c… records apart but we can pick floyds record apart after the 140 pound hatton win aswell.

Isnt wilder undefeated ?

Posted December 18, 2013 4:12 pm 


REM

This is stupid come 4/13 Pac a foreigner will have sold the most ppvs in history just like it was before the Canelo fight and at that point Pac should demand a 99/1 revenue split or no fight. Makes sense right smh.

Posted December 18, 2013 4:12 pm 


SREDMOND

What do Broner, Matthysee, and Rios all have in common? They LOST…. Reality is that of the 3 BRONER has the FEWEST losses and achieved the most…. 3 Weight World Champ sooooooo why is the notion of him beating Rios or Matthysee who also just got beat so obsence? NONE of these guys are elite fighters yet Broner been the most dynamic…I don’t think I overhyped Broner at all he has ONE loss to a World Class puncher in a higher weight class… Try HARDER

Posted December 18, 2013 4:11 pm 


eric

I have proved multiple times your bias sedrmen, ill say nice bias.

I have had intellectual back and forth with many on this site including you, so dont toot your own horn to much sed, your sounding a bit floyd like.

Posted December 18, 2013 4:08 pm 


SREDMOND

REM, you FAIL to mention that Manny also leads in a couple of other categories

1.) Losses Manny 5 ( 4.5) with Bradley Floyd 0

2.) KO Losses Manny 3 Floyd Mayweather Jr 0

3.) Draws Manny 2 I believe Floyd Mayweather Jr 0

Posted December 18, 2013 4:08 pm 


Anonymouse

Tachyon why bring purse issue here… the topic of discussion here is Floyd is now saying Pcaman is not on his level. Is A mere con on his level? Guerrero? Even if he means PPV power, Con and Guerrero still falls short compared to Pac.

Posted December 18, 2013 4:06 pm 


What’s Good for the Goose

SREDMOND

Rios would be beaten to within an inch of his life by Broner, this would be a Pacquiao/Margarito type fight… Broner is WAY too fast and sharp a puncher for a free swinger like Rios it would be another beatdown..I see Rios going down like Gatti did against Floyd Mayweather this is NOT a fight that Rios EVER wants… Totally different class of boxer…

Posted November 19, 2012 7:09 pm

SREDMOND

The only reason you need to see this guy in with Garcia, or JMM ALREADY at age 23 is because he looks so damn unbeatable, He and Donaire are blazing thru fighters in a manner that makes the naysayers uncomfortable… Some guys just have it

Broner looks so damn unbeatable? NO, NO , AND JUST NO HE DIDN’T. Did he look unbeatable when he lost to Fernando Quintero, little Ponce De Leon, and old man Malignaggi? He looked unbeatable when C grader Maidana slapped him all over the ring like? HAHAHAHA

IT DOESN’T MATTER WHAT THE RESULTS ARE YOU DONUT. THAT’S NOT THE POINT I’M MAKING HERE. IT’S ABOUT HOW BADLY YOU OVERRATED AND HYPED BRONER AND ABOUT HOW OFTEN YOU KEEP PROVING YOU DKSAB. HAHAHAHA

Posted December 18, 2013 4:04 pm 


SREDMOND

Mayweather would NEVER give him a 40% cut at this point and “agreeing during an interview” if FAR different than an actual negotiation… Last we heard was Arum saying “Those guys need to pick up the phone GBP ect” yeah that realistic when one guy sold 2.2 million buys and the other 475k….. These are NOT handshake deals and unless formally negotiated including a break in the GBP vs TR stalemate the bouts not happening…. I know I know all Floyd has to do is snap his fingers in your mind but that’s NOT reality this is a MESS bigger than Floyd and Manny….

Posted December 18, 2013 4:04 pm 


eric

Oh boy these guys are straight out the mayweather camp bro trust me. I know pro boxers come on eastside boxing for a fact.

It dont matter if floyd won 50 years in a row, pacman is still on his level, i could g into mannys a 8 divison world championship bla bla but why you all ready now that.

If floyd is so many light years above all earth human beings then he should just retire because to you morons nobodys worthy to be in the ring with him and thats just stupid.

Maybe you and serdmen can have a floyd statue build in your front yard and worship it.

Their just boxers, not Gods your freaks!!!!!

Posted December 18, 2013 4:03 pm 


Auzbox

Tachyon he is the second biggest draw card in boxing and has won more titles I don’t think he deserves 50/50 but come on 70/30 is a bit rich

Posted December 18, 2013 4:03 pm 


Auzbox

I’m obviously australian but there has been a petition sent to the White House for the manny v floyd fight they want 100000 sigs

Posted December 18, 2013 4:00 pm 


REM

Pac 11 titles Floyd 8
Pac 3x f.o.t.y Floyd 2x
Pac fighter of Floyd’s prime decade
Pac 1st 4 div. lineal champ Floyd 2nd keep up son lol.
Pac 8 div. tittles Floyd 5 who’s not on whos level ROTF…get your hardware up Floyd.
Men lie Floyd lies the #s don’t ha ha.

Posted December 18, 2013 4:00 pm 


SREDMOND

Whats Good for the Goose, What were the results of the Broner vs Mattysee bout?? Do you have some video evidence for us? I acutally gave Lucas the edge before facing Garcia but he disappointed me and got put on his seat and LOST… But again why would I now see him as unbeatable by Broner??

Posted December 18, 2013 4:00 pm 


Auzbox

As I said sredmomd manny has agreed to a 40 percent cut and all the testing so what’s wrong now, has he broke a nail

Posted December 18, 2013 3:59 pm 


Tachyon

Auzbox you and Eric hitting the same bowl I see. Standard is 70/30 Pac needs to get with the Program. Pac could have had 50/50 if he had taken the random test. Instead he pissed around lost his title, got knocked stupid by JMM, and Knocked out again by the IRS. Now he has to take what he can get 30% and be grateful he can get that.

Posted December 18, 2013 3:59 pm 


Anonymouse

At least there are some Floyd fans in here that questions why is Amir Khan ok as an opponent and not Pacman. But not Peej, Sredmond or Tachyon. Maybe you three should gather your collective courage and send it to your idol… hopefully that’s enought to get him in the ring with Packy.

Posted December 18, 2013 3:58 pm 


SREDMOND

Eric, below you see a poster discussing the fighters I am just answering the questions and rebutting the notions why not stop whining and try and prove me wrong or make a better argument? That can’t happen because I’m just too sharp or you would have made your case!!

Posted December 18, 2013 3:57 pm 


Auzbox

Tachyon floyd will never be the greatest ever not even close, the best ever have all lost being undefeated when you have not fought everyone doesn’t count

Posted December 18, 2013 3:57 pm 


What’s Good for the Goose

SREDMOND

‘Matthysee is SLOW and he would look like a mummy in the ring with Broner and don’t bore me with talk of washed up Judah and Alexander who is uneven during his performances’

Posted February 18, 2013 1:21 pm

HAHAHAHA

Posted December 18, 2013 3:56 pm 


SREDMOND

Broner would STILL defeat Ponce De Leon are you crazy? Abner Mares knocked De Leon out… And Broner is GREAT for boxing we need guys who ACTUALLY can create hype, buzz and big events… The card he was on was FAR better than the Pacquiao card which was an embarrassment that the Chinese and Americans saw thru… The best bout was Manny in a LOSER vs LOSER battle for redemption…Broner attracts fans and God knows boxing needs that, the only glimmer of hope at HW is Vitalis retirement so that 50% of the “Bore Brothers” are out of the picture…We will still have to endure Wlads snorefests for a bit longer but hes getting up there and sooner or later Hayden will tire of going to his dull fights and demand he commit himself to tapping that AZZ full time and allowing the planet to take interest in the HW division again..

Posted December 18, 2013 3:55 pm 


eric

Here we go with serdmen, dogging white fighters and praising black fighters.

Its totally obvious, look at the fighters color when he makes a positive statment in regaurds to a fighter. Then look at the fighters color when he says negitive statement s, thats 100% proof sedrmen is hurt and a racist.

Posted December 18, 2013 3:55 pm 


Anonymouse

Oh and I forgot Tachyon…he too is on Floyd’s payroll.

Posted December 18, 2013 3:54 pm 


What’s Good for the Goose

”Sparring Rios was much harder than fighting Broner”

Marcos Maidana

Broner is going to kill Rios but he couldn’t even wobble Maidana? HAHAHAHA

Pacquiao who hits twice as hard as Broner and is twenty times the fighter couldn’t stop Rios but Broner would destroy him? HAHAHAHA.

Broner can’t even beat Amir Khan leftovers but he would pose real problems for Marquez? HAHAHAHA

You DKSAB and you can’t pick a fight for toffee. HAHAHAHA

Posted December 18, 2013 3:53 pm 


Anonymouse

Eric, I think PeePeeJ and Sredmond are in Floyd’s bank account. Lol.

Posted December 18, 2013 3:52 pm 


Tachyon

eric lay off the pipe Mayweather undefeated record in 17ys is why he says Pac is not on his level. You have never seen Mayweather stretched out on the canvas in a comatose state like Pac was. Mayweather has not been knocked out twice. Pac is a great boxer, Mayweather is a Legendary Boxer.

Posted December 18, 2013 3:52 pm 


Auzbox

Freddie roach said they would take 40 percent of the purse what’s there excuse now SREDMOND

Posted December 18, 2013 3:51 pm 


SREDMOND

Whats Good for the Goose, HOW many fights did Broner lose at 135 pounds?? ANSWER 00000000000…

Soooooo whats your point???? Where is your post where I said Broner was gonna remain unbeaten the kid lost and lost clearly OH WELL…. Its not like he QUIT like Duran, Vitali or Ortiz…. Its not like he showed NO guts like Wlad who could not collect himself after 3 bouts with underdogs and has hugged his way thru the remainder of his boring reign as HW Champion… Broner might be done or he might not but at LEAST we don’t have another Golovkin talking about fighting in all these weight classes and meanwhile he fights in ONE and only has been facing a SLEW of no name boxers absent a banged up Matthew Macklin who had been knocked out 2x before him…. Time will tell Playa!!

Posted December 18, 2013 3:50 pm 


eric

Floyd sound a bit narcissistic at minimum with a stupid statement like that.

Manny is on anybody’s level and to think otherwise is looney.

Floyd and his fans determine greatness bases on his bank account, partly.,

Floyds head is so big he needs to be chopped down like his little sister, boner boy.

I never hear any other fighters or fans go on all day long about money, yes its important but jesus christ, can we have one mayweather article without talking about floyds bank account, some of you bums on here talk like you on floyds bank account.

Posted December 18, 2013 3:47 pm 


What’s Good for the Goose

SREDMOND

Ponce fought Broner 5 fights ago, in the boxing world thats a LONG time ago and he did NOT knock Broner out or really hurt him… Broner has learned alot since then and is dominating imagine Ponce at 135 trying to fight Broner now? He would get knocked out like Juanma did him… Every boxer has a tough night, don’t bank on Lucas the only reason you are discussing him is because Broner is laying waste to his foes…

Broner is the truth. Line them up and he’ll beat them all.’

SREDMOND Posted February 19, 2013 7:43 pm

Broners terrific for boxing, with HW boxing largely irrelevant we need high profile young fighters knocking guys out and showing speed and skill…Broners not just winning he’s clobbering guys, and that’s whats creating buzz….No one wants to see these dull, slow fighters with no skills…HBO is investing in Broner BIG time and he’s not disappointing’

SREDMOND Posted February 18, 2013 3:36 am

‘No one knows who GGG is’

‘No one wants to watch GGG’

But he does better ratings than Andre Ward — and it’s only his first year fighting in America.

What did Ward-Dawson do and Ward-Froch again? ha

SREDMOND

‘Matthysee is SLOW and he would look like a mummy in the ring with Broner and don’t bore me with talk of washed up Judah and Alexander who is uneven during his performances’

Posted February 18, 2013 1:21 pm

Posted December 18, 2013 3:47 pm 


SREDMOND

DeepWater there is no “Manny should take less” he WILL take less its not even a discussion… The guy made an 18 mill guarantee last time out and flopped the PPV, Mayweather made a 41.5 mill base and set a revenue record… There is NO real debate Pac would have to take a very solid payday yet substantially less than FMJ who’s downside is 32 mill….

Posted December 18, 2013 3:43 pm 


SREDMOND

1.)”Whats Good for the Goose” when did Broner and Rios fight and what was the outcome??? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

2.) Marquez has been rated as high as #2 in the sport or do you deny this? he was before Floyd Mayweather WAXED him and enjoyed high ratings I believe 3 or 4 after he buried Pacquiaos skull in the Canvas!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Posted December 18, 2013 3:41 pm 


deepwater1234

manny should take less. because if he wins is the bigger jackpot. 20 mill for pac should be enough to buy a chance

Posted December 18, 2013 3:38 pm 


SREDMOND

NO BEARS you REALLY do say “this guy is too big or this one is too small” you do the same thing with AGE it never matters as long as YOUR Fighter is not the one on the potential shorter end of the stick… ie “Vitali is too Old to face David Haye” …….Yet you called Mosley OLD at 38 coming off a BIG win against Margarito…. So are you telling me you RETRACT your statements about GGG being too small for Ward and that Marquez was a perfectly viable foe for Floyd Mayweather??? If you want to put this in writing with NO equivocations we can discuss HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

Posted December 18, 2013 3:37 pm 


deepwater1234

duck duck duck goose. no reason not to make a record purse against a guy not on your level lil floyd. china chin khan is on your level floyd. floyd logic is fun.

Posted December 18, 2013 3:37 pm 


BEARS

whats good for the goose- great post! i love looking back. especially in this case! sredmond obviously doesnt know what he is talking about! He needs some damage control right about now!!!

Posted December 18, 2013 3:35 pm 


SREDMOND

Pacquiao is a terrific ATG what he needs to do if he wants to get his money right is leave Top Rank a and take the 30% he would get from the unbeaten P4P King who sits atop the sport in every conceivable way… As long as Manny is a Top Rank fighter he is NOT gonna get a Nickel from FMJ who would essentially be his employer at that point… The POWER dynamic is TOO far in FMJ’s favor at this point he is immune to the childish TAUNTS of BUFFOONS like Heretic, Bears, and Old Boot….Lets look at Mannys last few bouts, he won against Rios coming off a loss and coming up in weight NOTHING special despite him fulfilling expectations, he was SMASHED against a 40 year Old Marquez in 6 rounds and put on the deck as an appetizer, he got robbed against Bradley and he won a VERY controversial M/D against Marquez… Reality is that Manny’s dominance factor has seriously declined and that’s why his last fight was ignored by many fans… AGAIN I would love for the fight to happen but as long as Manny is with TR he is gonna have to try and beg Cotto to face him at 147 again or recycle Bradley because JJM seems dead set against a 5th contest… Tough Times for the Great Pacquiao

Posted December 18, 2013 3:34 pm 


REM

Tachyon if you were Pac and only your participation in this fight can generate 300mil would you allow floyd to keep as much money as the Canelo fight generated overall while you only take a little more than what you’ve averaged over the last 4 years. Keep in mind that out of that small cut you have to pay camp and promoter so you end up just making what you’ve made in those other fight anyway. I’ve asked this question before and no one has dared make a fool out of themselves and said yes will you be the first.

Posted December 18, 2013 3:33 pm 


BEARS

Redmond- your confusin me with someone else or doing your usual making stuff up regarding what posters like myself say or dont say. i never say anyone is too big or too small. You mention someone emulating your style and not able to do it below. All one has to do to “emulate” you is fabricate what a poster has said and then comment on your own fabrications. it doesnt sound hard to emulate your style the only hard thing to understand here is why someone would want to emulate the behavior of an epic schmuck? notice when everyone else in east land comments on anothers posters posts, they start with a copy of the other guys post or quote then they proceed to comment on his words. this is how its done customarily in ANY forum. this is not cohesive or conduscive to your “schmuck style” of posting. so whenever one hears sredmond claiming another poster said something then he comments on it we pretty much all know its fabrication or if you rather “sredmond style”/ i prefer to call it “schmuck style”

Posted December 18, 2013 3:32 pm 


What’s Good for the Goose

SREDMOND

Marquez would be awesome because he is literally the #2 technician in the sport but he would be confronted with youth, speed and talent in Broner (super matchup) Brandon Rios would be a bloody mask and likely TKOed it would be target practice…

SREDMOND

”You can put the fighter with the best manners and comportment in the ring with Broner at 135 if you want and he is going to LOSE.. This kid is gifted and he has obviously been working hard at his craft…

Posted November 20, 2012 12:41 pm

B Red

Broner is the truth and put together a masterpiece. He can dominate up to 147

SREDMOND

Rios would be beaten to within an inch of his life by Broner, this would be a Pacquiao/Margarito type fight… Broner is WAY too fast and sharp a puncher for a free swinger like Rios it would be another beatdown..I see Rios going down like Gatti did against Floyd Mayweather this is NOT a fight that Rios EVER wants… Totally different class of boxer…

Posted November 19, 2012 7:09 pm

SREDMOND

The only reason you need to see this guy in with Garcia, or JMM ALREADY at age 23 is because he looks so damn unbeatable, He and Donaire are blazing thru fighters in a manner that makes the naysayers uncomfortable… Some guys just have it

SREDMOND

Broner is the only guy I have seen employ that style to its proper effect in the tradition of Floyd and Toney in a LONG time, his ability to slip, roll and counter with speed are unreal…

Posted November 19, 2012 8:32 am

SREDMOND

Anyone who believes that the remaining relevant fighters at 135-140 would be able to best Broner had better 1) be blind 2) be part of the fighters immediate family or entourage 3) Be his promoter… Broner is simply a special talent

Posted November 18, 2012 4:55 pm

PEEJ

Broner is the truth and in time yall will all see

Posted February 4, 2013 12:45 am

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Posted December 18, 2013 3:27 pm 


Anonymous

I see SREDMOND is still Mayweather’s little biatch. How does Mayweather’s smelly bellend taste SREDMOND? Do you like love it? Do you swallow to please him?

Posted December 18, 2013 3:26 pm 


SREDMOND

Bears, please do the world a favor and allow whatever disease you had on that video on youtube about Klitschko to go ahead and kill you…I remember when you were saying that “Pacquiao is too small for Floyd” I remember you saying that Golovkin would tear Ward a new one, then after Rodriguez got beat up you were saying “Ward is too Big for GGG he needs to go to 175″ I remember you SWEARING that “Canelo was gonna SMOKE Floyd Mayweather” and discussing his hands speed as “The Matrix” when he lost you were left with your typically LIMP pecker in your hand and the taste of shoe leather in your mouth… We ALL know that you have only recently begun watching fights outside that TRAGIC HW division that few care for…. FACT is that the WORST nightmare Pacquiao ever had (Marquez) was one of Floyds EASIEST opponents… Manny was a 7-1 favorite to finally get to JMM the 3rd fight instead it was a controversial M/D then came the 4th fight where the just shy of 40 Marquez flatblasted Pacquiao something fierce… Barrera and Morales were GREAT fighters who could not have won 2 rounds off Mayweather no matter what the weight class… Manny is an awesome fighter and ATG but time has shown us its Floyd Mayweathers world he is 2 years older and STILL breaking records while Pac Man fights rehab bouts with Brandon Rios….

Posted December 18, 2013 3:22 pm 


SREDMOND

I see guys are stealing SCREEN names again… That will never derail me because the perpetrator cannot emulate my style!

Posted December 18, 2013 3:22 pm 


ksu

biggest cherry picking p*ssy in the history of the sport.

Posted December 18, 2013 3:14 pm 


BEARS

great link posted by “FRAUD STRIKES AGAIN” explains it all as we have been saying about floyd and its out of his OWN MOUTH!!!!

CHERRY PICKER!!!!

WHAT A BLOW TO FLOYDS NUTHUGGERS!!!

Posted December 18, 2013 3:10 pm 


Tachyon

REM you seem to forget Pac last fight barley broke PPV wind and Arum got all that cash. Pac is owned by the IRS and needs May like the dessert needs the rain. Pac has not clout, no leverage, no money. May is his one shot meal ticket to get the IRS off his ass and he will beg on hands and knees to have that fight.

Posted December 18, 2013 3:01 pm 


BEARS

In my post below i meant to say “i dont think you even know what a plus/minus ratio is” not plus minus ration

my apologies

Posted December 18, 2013 3:00 pm 


Fraud Strikes Again

Chicken brain fraud slips up yet again.

The only people dumber than Fraud are his fans. They actually believe his lies even though he inevitably always ends up putting his foot in his big dumb mouth and disproves them and undoes all the hard work and dedication they put in trying to convince everyone else they’re true. Fraud makes them look even bigger fools and hypocrites than he does himself. Bwahaha!

youtube.com/watch?v=M_TfwRLBXis

Posted December 18, 2013 3:00 pm 


REM

Ok I will bow to you king Floyd. I need money but I will let you keep 150 mil while I take 50 mil even though outside of Garcia you don’t have a economically viable opponent. Your fight with Canelo did 150mil but your fight with me will do 300mil. In other words I have no leverage in negotiations and those #s prove I have no drawing power l mao g tfoh.

Posted December 18, 2013 2:58 pm 


Old Coot

As frequent ESB patron Hec Dog suggested… All boxing fans REALLY need to read the article entitled, “The PED Mess”, by Steven Hauser, at maxboxing.com… Turns out FLOYD may be the REAL cheater.

Posted December 18, 2013 2:54 pm 


Fight Aficionado

Apparently this means 1 of 2 things: 1. that Khan is on Floyd’s level. 2. Floyd will continue ducking Pac forever. Not surprised. Objective fans know which it is.

Posted December 18, 2013 2:52 pm 


Jim Rich

Some of Manny’s opponents: Morales x 3, Barrera x 2, Marquez x 4, Diaz, Oscar, Hatton, Cotto, Margarito, Mosley, Clottey, Bradley. World titles from flyweight to light-middle. Ring Fighter of the Year awards. Fighter of the decade 2000-2009. Floyd needs to deal with him.

Posted December 18, 2013 2:46 pm 


SREDMOND

I did not mean to say that GBP would pass up making millions on a garcia vs pacquiao fight because of poor relations with arum. They have obviously worked together in the past. I feel kind of stupid making such claims thats why I wanted to rescind the disinformation in my post below. As if the great Manny Pacquiao has no options but to grovel at Floyd’s table for whatever he can get. I kind of sound like an idiot don’t I? Are you guys dense enough to believe my utter tripe? Let me know. I will be here 24/7 bashing white devils.

Posted December 18, 2013 2:45 pm 


Jim Rich

Come on, Floyd, man up and face Emmanuel Dapridan Pacquiao, THE boxer of the 2000′s!

Posted December 18, 2013 2:39 pm 


Floyd Mayweather Jr

I wish my nutsack was at least half the size of Manny Pacquiao’s. Instead I’m stuck with my mincey little fa*got balls that our a dominant gene in the Mayweather lineage. My dad and my uncle Rodger have them too. It saddens to me to no small extent.

Posted December 18, 2013 2:36 pm 


SREDMOND

Revenge Angle with Maidana

Posted December 18, 2013 2:35 pm 


SREDMOND

I love Pac Man but he and Top Rank are on the ropes absent an accord of some sort with GBP and Mayweather… Pacquiaos last PPV bombed and he has NO options to generate the $$$$$ he needs… Arum went on record and stated he is reluctant to pair him with Bradley again because of the numbers and Marquez is balking at the idea of another bout instead preferring the walk off homer against Manny and discussing a rematch with Bradley or retirement…Floyd Mayweather sold 3.2 million PPV’s last year which averages out to 1.6 per bout MASSIVE record breaking success and momentum, he Unfied the 154 pound weight class with a virtuoso performance against an unbeaten Champ 13 years younger… Pac Man did a BOMB of a PPV that resulted in 475k PPV buys and his win was over a guy coming up in weight coming off a loss with limited perception of his skills… Manny did his job and got back in the “W” column with a 12-0 win in my mind but his fortunes are down and he has Tax Issues in 2 countries… The Top Rank Stable is depleted, as long as Floyd does not lose he gets 32 mill per bout for 4 bouts that’s some SERIOUS Job security Pac Man does NOT enjoy….Reality is that Manny had better brush up on his English, Call Floyd and offer everything including his dog Pac Man to try and see if he can break this stalemate if not I only see rematches that are stale and declining fortunes… Mayweather can fight in 2 weight classes whereas Pac will have to go to what 140? most of the guys there are Al Haymon or GBP fighters Matthysee, Garcia who are NEVER getting in with a TR guy unless they defect… FMJ can make $$$ with Khan, Garcia or even doing “A little Brother revenge angle with Broner” he does NOT need to do 2 million buys, if he hits a mill he still gets that FAT 32 mill payday….There is NO QUESTION that Manny needs Floyd FAR more and for practical reasons that have nothing to do with just bragging rights…

Posted December 18, 2013 2:33 pm 


Anonymous

do these backwood yanks ever get tired of talking sh#t about these two.

Posted December 18, 2013 2:32 pm 


BEARS

I swear anyone that buys what the dung pile floyd says is an idiot at this juncture. this topic has been covered extensively buy professionals. the cats out of the bag. floyd is the reason this fight did not happen when it should. just like floyd is the reason he fake retired when his division got the hottest it would ever be, just like floyd has not faced paul williams, pac man, and martinez. comparing what floyds resume is to what IT COULD BE and its just pathetic he fought the baldomirs, oritz’s, guerrero’s of the world when he should have been fighting the williams, pac mans, martinez’s of the world leading into the garcia’s, 3g’s, and mathyses. Fights cotto at 154 instead of martinez though martinez had been saying he would fight at 154 and floyd said he would do it. he just has a history of not making the best and riskiest fights available to him happen. thats why pax sack is bigger than floyds. only rabid floyd nuthuggers are in disillusionment with the “fraud” mayweather. please stop your dishonoring and disrespecting of a real warrior in pac

Posted December 18, 2013 2:28 pm 


BEARS

**Here we have yet another excuse from mayweather and waffling “pac is not on my level” and all this nuthugger peej can pivot too is that it is pac making excuses? get your proof peej cause your wrong. pac has agreed a long time ago to any and all drug testing. where are you getting your outdated material son? testing has not been the issue for over a year. every time negotiations got close floyd moved the goal post and talked dumb asinine crap like he is now with “pac is not on my level”. does anyone but the most rabid floyd nuthuggers even buy the d*ucheba*gery that flows from floyds mouth at this point/????

Posted December 18, 2013 2:26 pm 


murderman

Pac is the only real option for floyd. Pac will be fighting in march. Floyd in may. We still dont know for sure its khan. But pac vs floyd will go down in sept. Simply cause both guys are running out of options. Like it or not they need each other!

Posted December 18, 2013 2:22 pm 


Anonymous

shut up PEEBRAIN

Posted December 18, 2013 2:17 pm 


Anonymous

“your an idiot dude GTFO”

You’re

Posted December 18, 2013 2:16 pm 


BEARS

You just called morales and barrera BRAWLERS????

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH!!! you have no idea what your talking about!!!!!! you have no clue when it comes to boxing!!!!! you are officially a dummy talking out of your a$$!!!!!!! you have got to be one of the worst nuthuggers i have ever seen. your ignorance combined with your epic fail of floyd nut huggery makes floyd fans look bad.

in case you did not know morales is one of the all time greats as well as barrera and morales did good at times against pac even defeating him. you have prooved you dont know anything about boxing. please dont pass your nut hugging off as boxing knowledge. i have never heard you discuss boxing or anything about boxing. not offense not deffense not jabs left hooks check hooks strait rights or crosses. not foot work, not aggression, not ring generalship not compubox not historical analysis or even parameters on how we as boxing fans define greatness. i dont think you even know what a plus/minus ration is. your a clown dude. just a nuthugger who discusses the boxers drama outside of the ring and you do poorly at that. your an idiot dude GTFO

Posted December 18, 2013 2:15 pm 


PEEJ

All he had to do was accept random blood testing with no cut off date and the fight would of happened. Pac and company kept coming up with excuses on why he couldn’t take them when he simply could of just said no. Saying no would of carried more weight than being scared of needles, saying he would be weak or he is superstitious.

Posted December 18, 2013 2:10 pm 


breath of freash air

Reading some of these comments make me wonder if any Pac fans other than myself, are over 12years old …. very immature and silly. Get Arum out of the picture, and Pac take 30 to Floyd’s 70% and we will have a fight. Pac cannot negotiate at present, because his hand is weak and he’s getting screwed royally by Arum. Pac needs to first step up and ditch Arum, that will save him millions per fight, then accept that Floyd is calling the shots on showtime.

Posted December 18, 2013 2:10 pm 


BEARS

**Peej-what exactly do you know about boxing? you dont know a f*c*ing thing. the ONLY thing you do is nuthug fraud and black sack dangle cause your a wanna be. GTFO. Just the other day you talking about watching classics and having them recorded on tape and dvd. I’m curious tell me about the white guys in your collection. you have 3 minutes***

Posted December 18, 2013 2:09 pm 


Jackholer

I’ve never seen a boxer spend so much time making excuses not to fight another boxer. SOOOO PATHETIC!

Posted December 18, 2013 2:08 pm 


BEARS

this dude just said “only pac fans want floyd vs pac”

what an idiot!!!! that has to be one of the most idiotic sweeping stereotypes and assumptions i ever seen. This cat is scared of pac too and all peej is, is a crab dangling from floyds sack. one of the tightest hugging nut huggers i have ever seen. peej would surgically attach himself to floyds scrotum if he could. Instead, he’s dangling from floyds sack yelling “dont do it floyd!!! dont fight pac!! were not interested in your possible loss!”

Posted December 18, 2013 2:06 pm 


PEEJ

You are just a lame keeg Bears. Doesn’t know much about boxing and believes everything you read that is bad about Floyd and everything that is good about Pac. You are not objective. You are just a lame geek monster.

Posted December 18, 2013 2:05 pm 


BEARS

the guy who has been cycling is floyd there is more evidence that floyd has cycled peds than pac. thats gotta chap the a$$ of many a floyd nuthugger like wanna be a black dude peej

Posted December 18, 2013 2:02 pm 


PEEJ

Floyd vs Canelo will have done more money than if they make this fight. The whole world is no longer interested in this fight. Only Pac fans.

Posted December 18, 2013 2:01 pm 


BEARS

pax sack is like ten times the size of floyd mayweathers. i think floyd is envious of the pac sack

Posted December 18, 2013 2:00 pm 


PEEJ

PED mess is all about a rumor and certain people on here take it as fact. Just like there was a rumor that someone on Pacs team asked what would happen if Pac came up dirty if they did random testing. So does that mean he was on something and they wanted to know if it would be sent out to the public? But it was a rumor so really doesn’t matter.

Posted December 18, 2013 2:00 pm 


BEARS

pax not on your level? and a mere con is? this guys garbage knows no bounds. fraud is one of the biggest turds all time in boxing. pac is the fighter of the decade and as accomplished more than floyd if pax not on his level pac is above floyd. if being undefeated defined greatntess in boxing than we would discuss all kinds of boxers we currently dont discuss. what floyd is saying here is “50 was right and IM STILL SCARED AND RUNNING” biatch to the bone scared of little pac. BAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAH

Posted December 18, 2013 1:56 pm 


Demonyo

Floyd would rather fight his woman to secure another point in his win column. Pac is too much of a risk for him.

Posted December 18, 2013 1:34 pm 


Pinhead

Floyd knows everyone wants this, and so must know the amount of money it will make…………….so why does he say this and why is it no happening, because he knows full well that Manny Pacqiuao is the ONLY fighter that could possibly beat him. If not why would you not be involved in a seriously massive sporting event.

Posted December 18, 2013 1:32 pm 


Boxe0

You need to settle it on the ring Floyd. Everyone knows you are above his level but if you don’t want to fight him what does that say about you?

Posted December 18, 2013 1:31 pm 


REM

I agree Pac doesn’t experience no where near the fear level Floyd experiences and what does he mean he’s still sold more ppvs he just passed Pac after Pac was ahead for over a year. So that means 4/12 Pac will have sold more ppvs than anyone in history wow I didn’t know that more ammo for my arguments ha ha.

Posted December 18, 2013 1:15 pm 


Boxer

Peej- you know it! I know it! And so does everyone in here what does pacman have to prove to Bradley if anything Bradley has to prove something to pacman PAC already whooped his ass forget what the judges say! One gave the fight to Canelo when he fought Floyd, there is no reason these 2 can’t fight Floyd always said that he’s his own boss this fight would make lots more than his fight with Canelo and that’s a lot!

Posted December 18, 2013 1:14 pm 


SeanieP

Manny Pacquiao is not on my level actually means;I am not fighting the one guy I know who can put an ‘o’ on my record, no way never.

Posted December 18, 2013 1:13 pm 


Boxer

As a Floyd mayweather fan I have to say this, Floyd if pacman isn’t on your level than why do you fight guys that are under his level? Ortiz,Guerrero,Canelo, khan possibly next c’mon Floyd I think that after the first 3 to 4 rds Floyd would handle pacman easy! But Floyd doesn’t seem to think believe that

Posted December 18, 2013 1:08 pm 


Brazilian Boxing Fan

Mayweather is terrified of losing to Pacquiao.

Posted December 18, 2013 1:02 pm 


johnny

He may not be as good as floyd but there is literally no one else out there that could be competitive with floyd. That’s why the fans want this match. Floyd needs to stop this nonsense trying to downplay not fighting Pac.

Posted December 18, 2013 12:58 pm 


Old Coot

pinoy: LOL!!

Posted December 18, 2013 12:56 pm 


pinoy

This is one time that Floyd is right. Pac is not on his level. He is way below Pac in the size of cojones and heart.

Posted December 18, 2013 12:54 pm 


Old Coot

Sigh… Whatever Chicken… We’e sick of your drama… The fight can’t be hyped no more so just STFU and PROVE IT!!! You can’t beat the guy by reputation and word of mouth from your fans alone, dude! Time to really EARN a paycheck for once!

Anyhoo… As veteran ESP patron, Hec Dog advised, all boxing and sports fans REALLY need to read the article entitled, “The PED Mess”, by Steven Hauser, on maxboxing.com… Turns out FLOYD may be the REAL cheater. So Manny should be demanding special RBT, not Floyd!!

Posted December 18, 2013 12:54 pm 


Joke

floyd is a joke. he’s been fooling some people a long time, but this time its pretty damn clear.

FLOYD IS DUCKING PACMAN.

Posted December 18, 2013 12:51 pm 


PEEJ

Pac still needs to handle unfinished business with Bradley. There is a reason Arum said he was fighting in April when then knew Floyd said he was fighting in May.

Posted December 18, 2013 12:44 pm 


stan

yeah pacquiao is not on his level but kahn is? Pacman has sparring partners better than kahn( provodnikov and porter) come on my dude make the deal.

Posted December 18, 2013 12:43 pm 


rjhill

We have all been waiting ,so prove it floyd.We have seen from Broner talk is cheap.

Posted December 18, 2013 12:32 pm 


Anonymous

That’ll be the cherry picking level.

Yep, Fraud is the best at that.

Posted December 18, 2013 12:30 pm 


MJames

Is Pac is not on Floyd’s level, how can even think of wasting time with Amir Khan?

Posted December 18, 2013 12:30 pm 


Edgar Guevara

Reason to prove that!

Posted December 18, 2013 12:17 pm 


spartacrust

What…and khan is ? Hmmm

Posted December 18, 2013 12:16 pm 



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