You need to grow balls foydie not hiding on bBS alibiPosted December 31, 2013 7:08 pm
Россия Москва- he knows whats up. Can someone translate?Posted December 25, 2013 12:16 am
He is referring to the whopping Floyd gave his missisPosted December 24, 2013 8:02 am
Cherries lead down Fake Floyd the Flake’s road….nothing serious in terms of competition, you know.Posted December 23, 2013 9:34 pm
Or the kind of black man whipping Broner gave maidana and lamont peterson gave Matthysse??? Which one you referring to?Posted December 23, 2013 9:33 pm
You mean, like the same black man whippin he supposedly got when he defeated Bradley??Posted December 23, 2013 9:29 pm
floyd is gonna beat this knocked out fool manny ass . oh is manny in for a black man whippin
Yeah?, then why doesn’t little floyd take the fight?. Do you think little floyd being chicken chit is the problem?.Posted December 23, 2013 1:10 pm
Mayweather makes no sense as usual when it comes to fighting Manny. He makes the most money from this fight but would rather take less for a guaranteed victory against Khan or someone. Mayweather and Khan have something in common though.Both have a trail of cherries behind them but one cherry picker has done better than the other. They can sell their fight as THE CHERRIES COLLIDE or CLASH OF THE CHERRIES. I personally dont like cherries. They make me sick! I dont hate Mayweather. Just want him to fight Pac. Thats all.Posted December 23, 2013 10:24 am
” All roads lead to Mayweather” Manny finding out the hard way.Posted December 23, 2013 4:56 am
Manny can kiss ass all he wants, the offer passed him by 3yrs ago.Posted December 23, 2013 4:54 am
Good evening gentlemen. Short and sweet. The answer is NO. Time to now change the cd and move on to more interesting future bouts and careers of other takented prize fighters out there today. Peave and strength to all.Posted December 23, 2013 1:27 am
Он так странно разговаривает – как будто принадлежит к секте свидетелей иеговы – но это ладно … Больше всего меня бесит что он говорит о себе
Only in this fight, it is that I would like to see.
Even great fighters get beaten eventually. If Floyd were to lose on points and then get KO’d in his next two fights, I wonder how many people wud tune in to see his next fight? … No more “0″…no more “invincibility” …bearing in mind that his fights r never very exciting too… Then I have a feeling there’ll suddenly be a hell of a lot less “Money” fans.Posted December 22, 2013 7:04 am
Old coon and Farm boy. Manny is the one that lost the last two out of 3 fights. Guys are lining up to fight Floyd. But who is lining up to fight Manny? No one his last fight with Rios wasnt even worthy of ppv. Truth his Manny hasnt had a impressive win in his last four fights. And the guys he beat like Cotto and Oscar were dehyrated into making welter Floyd beat them both at 154 not 147. And you honestly thin a beast like Alverez who has undefeated was less dangerous than Manny? I bet you both cried with Junee when Manny was left slobering on himself by Marquez. Reality is Manny is done and no one care about him anymore except for the IRS that he owe the 68 mil too. I bet he wished he didnt turn down the 40 mil from Mayweather and took the fight a year ago. Poor pactardsPosted December 22, 2013 4:56 am
Bottom line, fight and beat Pacquiao convincingly enough to not warrant a re-match, and I will kiss your zero Floyd!!Posted December 22, 2013 3:50 am
Void will never fight Pac because he is extremely afraid of him. Instead he makes up one excuse after another. How many excuses has Void made to keep from fighting Pac? Think about it……….Posted December 22, 2013 3:06 am
Fraudweather NEVER KO’s anyone.Posted December 22, 2013 1:28 am
Truth is Manny hasnt K.O. anyone in his last 3 fights, I thought he won agaisnt Baradley but he didnt dominate him. And he couldnt KO Rios who stood in front of him the whole night taking blows. Manny lost his power no more P.E.D.SPosted December 22, 2013 12:48 am
TITchyon reveals his true stupidity. Everyone knows Bradley obv lost a wide deicision to Pac. He got his head bashed in and arguably lost to Provo. His one clear win was over Marquez. So in the real world Bradley lost 2 of his last 3 fights.Posted December 22, 2013 12:19 am
For the ones of you that can’t figure out something fishy was going on 2 years ago when Pac made up excuse after excuse about why he was afraid of a random test there is no hope for you at all except to become a Floyd nuthugger like me. End result Pac “lost” to Bradley, I really, really believe this, and almost put in a coma by JMM mans stock is worth 50 pesos and his PPV numbers are in the trash. When you look at the numbers a Pac fight don’t mean squat for Mayweather, who will sell 8 million PPV buys against Khan.Posted December 22, 2013 12:16 am
If any of you really think Floyd is afraid of Pac then your are a total idiot Floyd and his team look at the numbers and if they make sense great. Pac still thinks he deserves more than 30% which ain’t happening. I sat down with Floyd’s team and we discussed this and I can confirm it ain’t happening.Posted December 22, 2013 12:13 am
Floyd XYLOCAINE Mayweather
Some of you guys are block heads with a net worth of 2 pennies. Floyd is a multi millionaire and has done will without my opinion or any of your opinions making a difference to him. Now if I can only get him to share his millions with me.Posted December 22, 2013 12:11 am
Some of you guys are block heads with a net worth of 2 pennies. Floyd is a multi millionaire and has done will without my opinion or any of your opinions making a difference to him. If any of you really think Floyd is afraid of Pac then your are a total idiot Floyd and his team look at the numbers and if they make sense great. Pac still thinks he deserves more than 30% which ain’t happening. For the ones of you that can’t figure out something fishy was going on 2 years ago when Pac made up excuse after excuse about why he was afraid of a random test there is no hope for you at all. End result Pac lost to Bradley and almost put in a coma by JMM mans stock is worth 50 pesos and his PPV numbers are in the trash. When you look at the numbers a Pac fight don’t mean squat for Mayweather.Posted December 21, 2013 9:48 pm
This is getting as bad as 2009. No, Floyd won’t fight Pacquiao. If he ducked him this long there’s little reason to do it now. And don’t gimme this testing issue. Pacquiao agreed to unlimited blood tests two years ago. That didn’t get nearly as much ink for some reason but it’s a fact. Once the testing issue was gone the fight should’ve been made but Floyd always came up with a new excuse.Posted December 21, 2013 8:53 pm
Mayweather is ready to fight Pacquiao if he (Pacquiao) is completely disabled.Posted December 21, 2013 8:50 pm
I wouldn`t w@nk off too much over FLoyd have some 2 million PPV’s. It`s a function of the economies involved.
China is taking over and has a billion people. THere are more billionaires in China than anywhere else, they own a quarter of US foreign debt, and they have pushed the US out of all kinds of places – like large chunks of Africa, and most certainly the vintage wine market.
So in the non too distant future we`ll have Chinese fighters doing 5-10 million PPV’s.
Zhou Shiming is already getting $500,000 for 4/6 rounders in his second fight.
Once foreign fighters, including Yanks have to start going over there to try to make the big money, lets see how many of them get even close to the PPV numbers the Chinese fighters do.Posted December 21, 2013 8:21 pm
WHOSE PEOPLE ARE THE LOWER CLASS IN THE USA >>>>>> CHECK IT POPKINSPosted December 21, 2013 8:03 pm
racial bias is it the philipino don’t have have money here or the African American wake up POPKINSPosted December 21, 2013 8:01 pm
wow PPosted December 21, 2013 8:00 pm
Countrys always have their “home” stars. Haye/Audley and Froch/Groves made plenty of cash in the UK from pay per view sales. Tua/Cameron was a massive seller in New Zealand. Around the world nobody was really interested in those fights. Mayweather is fortunate to b from a rich country with a big population. Unfortunately for Manny, with regards to money, he’s from the Phillipines. Lots of people, but not people with the cash to fork out on loads of pay per view events. If PAC was from The UK, Germany or the USA Manny’s earnings would have probably trebled. Easily. … The fact Pacman, a fillipino, was able to crack the American market, and be remotely comparable to a home grown star american boxer like Mayweather is incredible…Posted December 21, 2013 7:40 pm
Countrys always have their “home” stars. Haye/Audley and Froch/Groves made plenty of cash in the UK from pay per view sales. Tua/Cameron was a massive seller in New Zealand. Around the world nobody was really interested in those fights. Mayweather is fortunate to b from a rich country with a big population. Unfortunately for Manny, with regards to money, he’s from the Phillipines. Lots of people, but not people with the cash to fork out on loads of pay per view events. If PAC was from The UK, Germany or the USA Manny’s earnings would have probably trebled. Easily. … The fact Pacman, a fillipino, was able to crack the American market, and be remotely comparable to a home grown star american boxer like Mayweather is incredible..Posted December 21, 2013 7:40 pm
Countrys always have their “home” stars. Haye/Audley and Froch/Groves made plenty of cash in the UK from pay per view sales. Tua/Cameron was a massive seller in New Zealand. Around the world nobody was really interested in those fights. Mayweather is fortunate to b from a rich country with a big population. Unfortunately for Manny, with regards to money, he’s from the Phillipines. Lots of people, but not people with the cash to fork out on loads of pay per view events. If PAC was from The UK, Germany or the USA Manny’s earnings would have probably trebled. Easily. … The fact Pacman, a fillipino, was able to crack the American market, and be remotely comparable to a home grown star american boxer like Mayweather is incredible.Posted December 21, 2013 7:38 pm
Americans boasting about an American fighter doing better PPV figures on American television than a foreigner. smh I wonder how many millions more PPVs Pacman would do than Floyd in the Philippines ? lolz
People tune into watch Floyd lose, whereas they watch Pacman because they love him and his exciting style. Safety First pitter-patter holder runner Floyd takes even less risks in the ring than he does out of it. That’s why he has a well earned and deserved worldwide reputation as a boring cherry-picking coward ducker among boxing fans.
And a large percentage of Floyd’s highest ever PPV figures are down to the popularity of his opponents.Posted December 21, 2013 7:31 pm
Both Manny and Floyd are great, super talented boxers. But the main reason Floyd is the bigger American Pay per view draw? …he IS American. Manny’s ferocious, exciting style has won over fans around the world so much so that he makes millions every time he fights away in the USA. Imagine Mayweather had been born in Asia… His career wud probably hav been more along the lines of Chris John. 20 years down the line when ESPN etc. show boxing’s greatest fights, there’ll b plenty to pick from Pacman’s career. Can’t say the same for Floyd.Posted December 21, 2013 7:17 pm
Pac v Bradley did 900k i don’t know where your getting that # from but its always been 900k. A fighter with Pacs popularity is never ever a b side to a fight even if lets say Floyd gets a bigger cut. Floyd v Canelo did a rec. 150mil Floyd v Pac is projected to do 300mil you can’t intelligently argue thats mostly because of Floyd. We’ll see where Pacs drawing power stands when the get back to promoting in Vegas Prog is a beast that fight is easy to promote.Posted December 21, 2013 6:45 pm
Pacquaio and TR cannot produce quality undercards and they are not building the events the way GBP is… Schaefer is stacking cards the Broner fight was an EXCELLENT night of boxing that exceeded the Pac Man vs Rios undercard by PLENTY… Imagine if Floyd has Broner and Keith Thurman fighting on his undercard? Danny Garcia in a WW stepup? Malignaggi? Maidana? ALL these resources are available to fuel and produce the type of events that warrant us paying $70 to see… Then we get to see one of the GREATEST PURE Boxers in the History of the sport seek to continue a 17 year unbeaten streak!!! By comparison what does Top Rank offer us? A Marquez rematch? we saw Manny and this soon to be 41 year old fight 4x and NOW the old man is coming off a loss… Bradley despite being an excellent competitor is NOT big with fans and he and Manny proved they were not gonna set the World on fight… Pac Man has NO ONE he can fight at this point that really creates a buzz..EVERYONE wants Mayweather from Hops to GGG to any other skell that can face him because he is the BEST boxer in the World and brings the LONGEST money to the game!! Floyds guarantee 41.5 mill was 11.5 mill more than the total haul from that abortion in Macau!!Posted December 21, 2013 6:36 pm
Floyd and Pac are NOT equal, Mayweathers 4th largest PPV is equal to Mannys BIGGEST 1.4 mill with Mosley, while Manny did 1.4mill Marquez 3….. Mayweather did 2.7 with Oscar, Manny did 1.25. against Cotto vs FMJ 1.5 mill, Manny vs Cotto 1.2 mill, Floyd vs Canelo 2.2 mill… Manny nothing to even compare to that success… Bad outings with Clottey, Rios, and Bradley have made 1 mill a BIG number for Manny whereas Mayweather is hitting that at a minimum…Posted December 21, 2013 6:27 pm
REM, Mannys last PPV with Bradley did 700k buys that’s documented and NOW Pac Mans profile has fallen as evidenced by the putrid 475k buys he did with Rios…He and Bradley cannot crack 1 million buys, the only TR fighter that would likely get him there is OLD Marquez who is pushing for a rematch with Desert Storm… Ya think Provodnikov will get him there? Pac is not as exciting as he once was when he was knocking guys out… The public has SPOKEN 2 of his last 3 bouts did UNDER 1 mill…Posted December 21, 2013 6:23 pm
REM, Pacquiao would be a B side opponent to Floyd Mayweather and that’s just a painful fact of life that cannot be intelligently disputed… Even Manny knows he would NEVER get a 50/50 split with Floyd Mayweather at this point, that by default makes him the B side because Money May is the BIGGER attraction… AGAIN lets look at the numbers Mayweather vs Canelo 2.2 million buys Pacquiao vs Rios 475k buys….Noooooo comparison., Pacs a B side fighter against Floyd though he is the A against lessor players like Rios ect….Posted December 21, 2013 6:21 pm
Arum has said hes worried about the #s for a rematch with Bradley but judging by Bradleys performance against Marquez and his disputed win over Pac the rematch wont fail to bring in a mil buys since the last one when Bradley was even more unpopular did a shade under.Posted December 21, 2013 6:14 pm
Would SREDMOND be defending Floyd is he wasn’t black?
Would SREDMOND believe all of Floyd’s BS and excuses if he wasn’t black?
Would SREDMOND be accusing us all of being crazed lunatics if we took Floyd’s side if Floyd was white or Asian and Pacquioa was black?
Everyone on here knows exactly what the answers to those questions are.
Even he does deep down.Posted December 21, 2013 6:02 pm
Pac is in no way shape or form a b side to anybody now or ever in the sport of boxing since the Oscar fight. At this moment GB has a good thing going in the ww and jmw divisions they are stacking cards with multiple tittle fights and popular fighters while TR is very thin at ww and just did and all foreign promotion. Granted it was a failed experiment but there’s no reason not to believe that TR wont bounce back on 4/12 back in the states matching Pac up with either Bradley or Marquez. I just read an article that said Marquez might be interested for the right price. Mayweather did not do 2 mil buys Mayweather, Canelo, Garcia and Matysse did 2 mil buys. Floyd and Pac are on the same level man to man Floyd an American doing well in the states and Pac capturing the imagination of the world including the states where his has done astronomical #s himself.Posted December 21, 2013 5:59 pm
Flomos are the most stupid people on planet earth.
More ducking from the sport’s most infamous ducker
Floyd Mayweather drops WBC welterweight title as Pacquiao becomes No.1 contender
“Pacquiao can have belt”
Some posts earlier
Floyd’s litany of excuses for not fighting Pacquiao.
First, it was about his health calling himself a scared rich coward. Then, it became “Pacquiao is a has been” and not on his level. Now, it’s “I don’t like Bob Arum”.
None of these three are even logically connected in any way and I’m not even talking about all the other excuses he has used.
1. “Health is more important than money. I want to be there for my kids. I don’t want to be walking with a limp or end up like Muhammad Ali. I’m smart. I’m a rich scared coward.
2. I’m on vacation.
3. I’m not doing the fight if Bob Arum is involved. I hate Bob Arum.
4. Manny already has five losses.
5. I don’t love boxing anymore like I used to.
6. Pacquiao won’t take the test.
7. If I beat Manny Pacquaio do you know what they are going to say? ‘You are supposed to beat him.
8. I never said Pacquiao would be next at all. So please, don’t put words in my mouth.
9. I call all the shots, I’m my own boss. Pacquiao isn’t his own boss
10. He is not on my level.
11. I don’t need a belt, the belt doesn’t make the fighter. I’m bigger than boxing. I will vacate the belt.
12. The only reason Manny is trying to fight me now is because of his tax problems, he needs the money
13: ”Pac who??”
14: ”I lost my urge”
15: ”We only fight the Biggest and the best Pac you’re next!
”I never said that Pac you’re next”
16: ”What if I lose, I wont make any money”
17: “Belts doesn’t make me, he can have the belt”
“Legacy pays no bills”
“Belts will only rust”
18: ”And I want to see Manny Pacquiao’s real pay-per-view numbers. Get his pay-per-view numbers from his last fight and compare them to my pay-per-view numbers with Canelo Alvarez.”
The scary thing is there are even more.
Floyd Mayweather, great boxer but absolutely full of crap, his whole mission for the last 5 years has been to discredit and belittle the one other guy who rivals him in status and popularity. He has NEVER had the intention of fighting him, just defaming him. His comments yesterday stating the fight would never happen as he will never deal with Arum just proves that every single claim from him in the past about wanting that fight is complete and utter garbage. All those excuses were intentional roadblocks – now he’s running out of excuses it goes back to being all about Arum – the guy who has been present throughout the last 5 years and the guy who has been involved in previous negotiation “attempts”…
And now this hypocrisy as well regarding Rios’ positive test – it’s all about him getting oneupmanship over Pacquiao without ever having to prove it in the ring…
Flomos would still deny he was ducking Pacquiao if Floyd came out and said ”I’m ducking Pacquiao because I’m gutless cherrypicking coward” on live TVPosted December 21, 2013 5:53 pm
SREDMOND is actually making some excellent points. The last defense for a man who has no rebuttal is to resort to name calling.Posted December 21, 2013 5:50 pm
That’s NOT a YOUTUBE clip that I saw below… AGAIN screen thieves trying to undermine the voice of reason and sanity albeit HARSH…Posted December 21, 2013 5:34 pm
youtube.com/watch?v=mxlD1sPCvXUPosted December 21, 2013 4:59 pm
Third World, Mayweather is referring to monetary considerations and bargaining power and OF COURSE he does not think Manny is on his level he saw Pac Man get KOed by a boxer he took every round from when the guy was younger… AGAIN this fight is not happening and sooner or later guys are gonna have to stop pouting about it and move on…Posted December 21, 2013 4:56 pm
Tip, I am a professor in comparison to you!!! You have NOT made a single point and you had a typo on a 3 word sentence HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!Posted December 21, 2013 4:55 pm
pacquiao is not on my level so i’ll fight a great fighter like amir khan. exxcuse me while i vomit.Posted December 21, 2013 4:54 pm
Floyd Mayweather is a PROUD, SELF MADE MAN who has flipped the traditional model in boxing where the fighter suffers the beatings and is financially exploited by the promoter… He bought his freedom from Bob Arum long ago and his career TOOK off…. Arum called him boring and felt he would not be able to succeed which proved to be a LAUGHABLE assertion… Arum showed the same dismissal of Rigondeaux’s skills, the man nicely outboxed one of his more popular fighters and instead of lauding Rigo, he immediately discussed how “Boring he was” and how hard it would be to market him…(Who’s team is he on?) would he have attacked his own boxer had it not been for his cash cow being the loser? He was equally dismissive of Tim Bradley after Pac Man lost to him on paper, again I think Manny won also but Bradley is STILL a TR employee with a career to promote… He also has been SLOW to discuss really wanting to put Manny in with Bradley again due to the numbers…. Mayweather is NOT fearful of Pacquiao who has shown us he is BEATABLE, right now Pac Man and TR are somewhat on the ropes they have ONE guy that is bankable on PPV and none on the horizon that really have what it takes to sell… Manny just did a HORRID event by his prior standards and lost immense cache at any bargaining table if a Mayweather bout were to be discussed…. Floyd and GBP are squeezing competitors that are down on their luck and despite the angst of BUTT HURT fans who are overly focused on this bout this is proving to be good business longterm… If by chance Manny faces Floyd he will be fighting for pennies on the dollar as his star falls… If Pac gets in the ring with Provodnikov or Bradley he is gonna do under 1million and TR undercards cannot pickup the slack… Mayweather smartly is inviting Broner who win or lose is a LIGHTENING Rod for attention to box on his undercard, and the GBP stable is robust with other fights that will make for a solid promotion even if it his Khan… Alas Floyd Mayweather has 4 more bouts to bank this cash and walk away hopefully forever at 39 or so…. Pac and Co are getting desperate and if Manny were smart he would be exploring ways to leave TR…Posted December 21, 2013 4:53 pm
SREDMOND is a bit stupid, can’t put his point across and can’t do it with paragraphs as well and that, you thicko.Posted December 21, 2013 4:49 pm
what exactly is does this konch character do in the pacquiao camp? he looks like a snake if ever i saw a snake.Posted December 21, 2013 4:44 pm
Paragraphs,Posted December 21, 2013 4:44 pm
SREDMOND , Paragraths, bunch of text.Posted December 21, 2013 4:43 pm
woopey doo.Posted December 21, 2013 4:40 pm
Floyd Mayweather has articulated his reasons for NOT doing business with Bob Arum and by extension Manny Pacquiao… Just as Schaefer and Arum have been clear as to their hatred of each other and lack of respect for their individual business principles… Because he is the MOST vocal Floyd Mayweather is being saddled with the undue burden of just making the fight while Pacquiao is being given a pass as if he is a RETARD or a CHILD… Manny is a FULL grown man with a wife, several kids, a dog and a chubby manservant sooner or later he will EITHER have to walk up on FMJ in the ring or VOCALLY do something other than show a passive interest in the contest… Letting Arum be his talking head has worked fine where he is the A side boxer but against Floyd he is a B side fighter and he might wanna take a page out of Shane Mosleys book and walk Floyd down after his next bout, OR have Koncz craft an open letter amping up the pressure and discussing how this is not about his promoter (again these are just suggestions) but the fact is that Pac Man is being given too much of a pass because he is considered the “Nice Guy”… Mannys passivity is NOT gonna land him the BIGGEST payday of his career which he desperately needs…Posted December 21, 2013 4:39 pm
Roy jones won in Russia todayPosted December 21, 2013 4:36 pm
I don’t think this fight will ever be made. I do think that Mayweather feels this could be a tough one for a couple of reasons. Pacquiao still has his speed and that left hand can end the fight if he connects perfectly. Pacquiao has tremendous stamina and would be attacking all night. However, with all that said, I think Mayweather would still win as he is one of the smartest boxers ever to lace them up.Posted December 21, 2013 4:34 pm
tark is pacman as good as you”re other hero BRONER.Posted December 21, 2013 4:18 pm
This “author” has just demonstrated why every now and then some “writers” need to have their keyboards ripped away and beat over the head with it repeatedly. If the fight happens great but if it never does I dont think that it will take everything away from their acomplishments in the ring. They will both still be remembered as great fighters. To some degree they are both to blame for the fight not happening. I am of the opinion that MP is more to blame because I just dont see how taking random tests is so much of an outrageous demand. It actually makes perfect sense considering whats been happening in boxing. I mean you even had speculation about foul play in the Broner beatdown. Sore looser tactic. But thats just my opinion. It is clear that the author is enchanted and enamoured with MP so I cant really take this seriously. I just want to say that this fight not happening will not somehow erase their great careers.Posted December 21, 2013 4:17 pm
Floyd toys with Pac. Pac should of agreed to random testing back in 2010 and the fight would of happened. Then he should of taken the 40 mil. Now fight won’t happen at all. With Arum still in the picture fight won’t happen.Posted December 21, 2013 4:10 pm
Floys is so scared of paquiao he cclaims manny aint on his level cuz he lost to marquez but that doesnt mean nothing pacman style wd beat floyd..shane mosley lost to vernon forrest twice and vernon was put to sleep by mayorga latter a fighter shane knocked out so that sbit that floyd wins over pac just because he beat marquez n pacman lost its merwly a reason to hiide from manny so floys grow some balls n fight him u clown.Posted December 21, 2013 4:05 pm
Well… when you own 68 million in taxes to 2 governments where you spend most of your time…and all you have is 5 dollars.. you either start thinking for yourself or you’re screwed.. Pac is getting down with it at age 34 and change.. He has no time to waste..
BA has worked him over better than any opponent.Posted December 21, 2013 3:46 pm
Sounds like Tachyon is screwing FloydPosted December 21, 2013 3:25 pm
Taychon listen to yourself blaming bob and manny but letting floyd offf scott free, I hope you never get on a jury, man you disgust me.Posted December 21, 2013 3:11 pm
Pacquiao will be better than ever when he faces Floyd in 2015…
That loss did him a lot of good… He found out trying to be a warrior and taking tons of punishment wasn’t too bright… Live by the sword die by the sword… Now he’s concetrating on speed, defense, boxing, and winning rounds… He got away from all that with Roach constantly predicting KO’s for him … He’s thinking for himself now and will try to peak for a Floyd fight.
^thinking for himself now. hmmm, think about that for a moment.
i’m sorry, but it’s a bit late in his career and/or life to begin thinking for one’s self.
I know this a boxing forum to discuss opinions but floyd vs manny has ran it’s course.
Talk is cheap, let’s see a fight.
Floyd fans will write till their blue in the face why the fight shouldn’t happen and completly defy logic. Flod fans are like a guy selling his car and when a perspective buyer shows up he says everything negitive about the car to persway the sales transaction, to NOT take place.
Real boxing fans that aren’t afraid and non bias fans want to see the damn fight ALLREADY !!!!!!!! Bob Arum and floyd mayweather make the fight happen and stop being little b@tchs, whole country’s have come to peace treaties that hate and blow each other up but you cant make a deal that makes you richer than richey rich along with the networks plus makes the fans happy ? Business men my ass.
If it dont happen in 14, then who cares, you guys suck!!!!!!!Posted December 21, 2013 3:08 pm
I agree this would be a great fight but the problem is Arum and Pac. You can not fault Mayweather he tried to make the fight happen twice is he pissed at Arum and Pac for not signing the contract yes. PAC is ready to take random test in 2014. Why could Pac not take random test in 2012 or 2011. why did it take money problems, stock value drop and a brutal knock out for Pac to finally agree? 2011 Pac was on top of the World and a May fight would have netted him 50 mill or more Pac should have taken the test. Now in 2014 Pac agrees to take random test knowing he will only make 1/3 of what he could have made in 2011 very poor business decision on Pacs part and the blame rest squarely on Pacs shoulders.Posted December 21, 2013 3:06 pm
Sorry… It’s NOT going to happen before next year. Hold your horses.Posted December 21, 2013 2:55 pm
Did Hecdog write this or just every Pac fan refers to Pacquiao as 8 division champ in every other word? Either way just as a neutral boxing fan I’d like to see this matchup now. Not next year or the year after. Make it happen!Posted December 21, 2013 2:49 pm
More fake TARKSPosted December 21, 2013 2:44 pm
I just want to see Floyd fight Lara and Garcia…
Khan is a 3-round spar session.Posted December 21, 2013 2:44 pm
I love it when Pacquiao fights. ALl the Phillipinos get hot and excited and want to let off some steam, and I am right there with some poppers, some whizz, and a bottle of baby oil.Posted December 21, 2013 2:41 pm
Pacquiao will be better than ever when he faces Floyd in 2015…
That loss did him a lot of good… He found out trying to be a warrior and taking tons of punishment wasn’t too bright… Live by the sword die by the sword… Now he’s concetrating on speed, defense, boxing, and winning rounds… He got away from all that with Roach constantly predicting KO’s for him … He’s thinking for himself now and will try to peak for a Floyd fight.Posted December 21, 2013 2:40 pm
When will this paid Pacroid shill stop writing these garbage? He’s getting annoying now.Posted December 21, 2013 2:37 pm
By the time Arum is done with Paquiao, Paq will be broke and penniless.Posted December 21, 2013 2:34 pm
Paquiao needs to dump Arum ASAPPosted December 21, 2013 2:31 pm
No doubt Bob Arum is a greedy shady person. I have no respect for him. I think of it weren’t for Bob, Floyd would of fought Manny by now. The one who reaps from this fight is Arum.Posted December 21, 2013 2:29 pm
beyond laughable.Posted December 21, 2013 2:09 pm
Pacquiao is now 4 years past his best. Floyd is the naturally bigger of the two and is also still at the top of his game. Mayweather is doing what he always has – stacking the cards firmly in his favour.Posted December 21, 2013 2:08 pm
They’re not going to lose a lot in 19 months… Wladimir will be 38 in a couple months and he feels he’s better than ever.Posted December 21, 2013 2:00 pm
floyd will fight pacquiao in 2015, so they will both be in their prime. LOL.Posted December 21, 2013 1:53 pm
Floyd is the GOAT… He WILL fight Pacquiao… Probably in 2015.
Floyd just wants to do Pacquiao a favor… Grow a brain and ditch Arum. For your peace of mind and because you want a promoter who will make sure your taxes are paid … and you get every penny you’re due.
BA won’t do that.Posted December 21, 2013 1:45 pm
THE SCUM BRITISH STILL NEED A MONARCHY TO RULE THEM LIKE PEASANTS.Posted December 21, 2013 1:33 pm
Who’s Your Daddy!
“te tumbo” Again, you’re just FOS!!!Posted December 21, 2013 1:26 pm
when it comes to pure hype and sh#t,no one can touch the YANKS.Posted December 21, 2013 1:05 pm
VOTE WITH YOUR $. DO NOT WATCH FLOYD VS KHAN. WATCH IT THE NEXT WEEK FOR FREE OR AT A BAR FOR FREE. DO NOT ORDER IT AT HOME.Posted December 21, 2013 12:56 pm
Khan is a joke and that fight is not worth watching.Posted December 21, 2013 12:49 pm
First it was the money split. Then it was the test. Then it was the losses. Now it’s Arum. If history is any guide, we can assume that Mayweather will continue to find excuses not to fight Pacquiao. Enjoy watching him take on Khan next. Pacquiao’s rematch with Bradley will be a better fight…Posted December 21, 2013 12:27 pm
Second2Nunn has the beatPosted December 21, 2013 12:24 pm
ESB proof reading failed again. The headline says “Mayweather noW ready to fight Pacquiao?”, but it should say “Mayweather noT ready to fight Pacquiao?”Posted December 21, 2013 12:23 pm
i detect a “persistent public outcry” to ban Reni from smearing his Pacquiao-worshipping pap on ESB ever again. these love letters read as if they were written before a St. Pacquiao* altar. Btw, what’s with the use of gratuitous “quotes” around the incongruous use of otherwise neutral words(?), e.g., “aroma”? i believe that “scent” is the word Reni was unable to grasp while his dizzy swoon over Manny*.Posted December 21, 2013 12:08 pm
THE GUYS ON DUCK DYNASTY BEAT MAYWEATHERPosted December 21, 2013 12:00 pm
Khan beats mayweather
too fast, styles.Posted December 21, 2013 11:54 am
ughhhhhPosted December 21, 2013 11:38 am
Uhhhgggg….Posted December 21, 2013 11:25 am
I WOULD ACCEPT THE MAIDANA FIGHT AND PAC FIGHT OR EVEN GARCIA FIGHT. KHAN IS A CHINA CHIN JOKE ON THE DOWNSIDE. NO NECK MACHINE WILL SAVE HIM.Posted December 21, 2013 11:21 am
This fight has lost its lustre ….. they think the public will buy two aging boxers who are now ready to collect another payday.Posted December 21, 2013 11:14 am
Floyd’s next opponent is Maidana. Just like Floyd fought Ortiz after he beat Berto (another friend of his). So for you haters that loved when Broner got humbled, wait until Floyd gets a hand on Maidana and we’ll see if the left over the shoulder roll works. SMDH.Posted December 21, 2013 11:13 am
Floyd you running man dang..just beat PAC and shut everybody up..you see how they hyped CaneloPosted December 21, 2013 10:36 am
youtube.com/watch?v=MhGeH07lo5MPosted December 21, 2013 10:34 am
My prediction, we have read how Mayweath will not fight Pacquiao unless all conditions are on his terms. Mayweather will not complete the 6 fight deal with Show Time undefeated and his lost will not come at the hands of Pacquiao, but at the hands of the judges to give justice and stop him from systemically running a money scheme on the America people. It almost happen with the 90 day jail time and Show Time forcing him to fight Canelo, but Canelo fought so poorly, but one judge tried. Mayweather only fights Golden Boy fighters, if he happens to lose he will still be in charge of the negotiations for the rematch. Unless he retires now he will not end his career undefeatedPosted December 21, 2013 10:29 am
OH WHATS THE NEW REASON NOT TO FIGHT THE MIDGET PACQUIAO …..AMERICA LAND OF THE BRAVE ….WHAT HAPPEN WITH FLOYDRUNNER ….. NEEDS TO MIGRATE SOMEWHERE ELSE KABOOMPosted December 21, 2013 10:18 am
Worst article ever written on ESB?Posted December 21, 2013 10:13 am
If Mayweather does fight Pacman he will NOT be facing the Pacman who was KOing the worlds best Welters and Jr Middleweights. Neither fighter is at the best but Pacman has more wear and tear.Posted December 21, 2013 10:09 am
IT WONT HAPPEN…Posted December 21, 2013 10:03 am
this article should of been written on toilet paperPosted December 21, 2013 10:02 am
sad day when the face of boxing wont fight any man anywhere. excuses make a fighter look bad and floyd has used too many excuses too many times. boycott floyds next fight if its not pac or even maidana at least. boycott khan vs floyd.Posted December 21, 2013 9:38 am
If Floyd wants to be a legend he will make this fight if not he will go down in history walking away from the biggest fight in the sport.Posted December 21, 2013 9:34 am
Even if this fight happens it’s way too late and it will probably bring more questions than answers. Floyd has nothing to win and everything to lose.
Floydie is scaredPosted December 21, 2013 9:01 am
I am off my nut,Posted December 21, 2013 8:55 am
Sorry, sold.Posted December 21, 2013 8:45 am
sad day in boxing when the p4p number one guy acts like this. the best is supposed to be able to fight any man at any time not cherry pick and make excuses. sad sad dayPosted December 21, 2013 8:44 am
I have got ,a perfect an original big mac supersize me poly box from 1979, absolutely mint condition, $6 million.Posted December 21, 2013 8:43 am
PACQUIAO-MAYWEATHER FOR 3014, LET’S KEEP OUR FINGERS CROSSEDPosted December 21, 2013 8:21 am
Douglas Bader’s legs
Floyd and Manny, make the fight, lads!Posted December 21, 2013 7:36 am
youtube.com/watch?v=eQNUdMets6IPosted December 21, 2013 7:34 am
Another alibi paquiao your next in 2020Posted December 21, 2013 7:33 am
this fight should of happened a couple of years ago.all this talk of will they wont they is becoming tedious.personally i think it will never happen.Posted December 21, 2013 7:32 am
I did not beat Adrien Broner into the middle of next week, I even done the PED,
Roger Mayweather and Smith and Jones,
There was this Irish man who won the lottery, a pound, won , 4 million, but they said we can’t pay it all in one go, we will have to pay monthly 400,000, over 10 months, he said, if you are going to mess about I want me pound back.Posted December 21, 2013 6:23 am
FOCK FLOYD MAYWEATHER
Kentucky floyd chicken is gonna come.out with any excuse to avoid pacquiao focking chicken mayweatherPosted December 21, 2013 6:14 am
Get knocked out against ole Pacquiao,
youtube.com/watch?v=CgoDYK3IlGgPosted December 21, 2013 6:05 am
I strongly believe that back in 2008 – 2010, the period when Manny fought Diaz, De la Hoya, Hatton and Cotto etc, that he was using some sort of performance enhancement whether that was Hgh or similar we’ll never know. I believe boxing to still be a crooked sport, run by crooks including Don King, Bob Arum and Jose Sulaiman and now DLH too. The sport is rife with corruption in my view. In no other sport would judges like CJ Ross be allowed. Mayweather called Manny on the cheating and the PEDs had to stop and Pacquiao was no longer the same fighter.
I just lost to Marcus Maidana, so fk you, if I won, even worsePosted December 21, 2013 5:49 am
Happy Christmas, I run things, I will ban you.Posted December 21, 2013 5:27 am
There is no Pacquiao v Mayweather, Happy Christmas and that,
youtube.com/watch?v=0A8KT365wlAPosted December 21, 2013 5:00 am
Those lions lost weight after that, went down to 550lb, proper ripped, then went back up 700lb after catching that alligator.Posted December 21, 2013 4:23 am
@demonyo – you do make a valid point. Southpaws have gave floyd trouble in the past. Remember chop chop corley rocked floyd. Also for the first 5 rds zab gave floyd all he wanted. I believe pac will too. But 1 thing you are missing. Unlike pac floyd makes in fight adjustments like no other! Thats why in sept when they fight i got floyd by hard fought split or majority decision. He may even get knocked down. But will get the decision. Pac can get a decision in floyds town of vegas. Pac will need a k.o. dont think at this stage in his career pac k.o. floydPosted December 21, 2013 4:09 am
Bull crap writer! Stupid!!! Wtf!!!!Posted December 21, 2013 4:06 am
Do you have to have any journalistic experience to write for this site?..”and it is up to Pacquiao to grab the phone if Mayweather is too proud to do it”… news flash Mayweather attempted the phone call already. LolPosted December 21, 2013 4:02 am
Mayweather not scared of Pac? Common, lefty, excellent foot speed, handspeed? You don’t wanna have them Floyd. Stop pretending. Come up with better excuse now.Posted December 21, 2013 4:01 am
@ big moe – bout time somebody is speaking facts. Sounds like you a real fight fan. Not a fan of the fighters. Much respect partner!Posted December 21, 2013 3:58 am
Old skool, got em back, he was nowhere, got him back.
youtube.com/watch?v=LU8DDYz68kMPosted December 21, 2013 3:39 am
Khan will prob fight khan in mayPosted December 21, 2013 3:32 am
floyd nor pac have anymore options but each other. Floyd fights can in may. Pac fight in march prob either marquez or bradley. After that neither has anymore options. Especially pac since he is broke and owes the tax man. If he were buisness wise like floyd he woulda been dump arum like floyd and cotto. Even floyd told pac to dump arum long ago. Had he listen he woulda been had a fight w floyd and he wouldnt be broke today! Pac is so broke and deeperate he is willing to give floyd 70/30. As long as arum doesnt get any piece of floyd’s 70 the fight goes down in sept!Posted December 21, 2013 3:31 am
Broner and everyone v Scampi
Go Broner, watch that little Scamp, and that,
youtube.com/watch?v=RMxzzWp9tFgPosted December 21, 2013 3:15 am
let money may fight TripleGGG at 154 that will shut him upPosted December 21, 2013 3:02 am
Pacquiao v Mayweather
PPV Star, you are regular HBO, Showtime, noyt $69.95 and that.
@jimmy – “Adrien Broner should of done that, might of won,”
Well he did a decent amount of the “hold…. hoooollllddd!!!” part.Posted December 21, 2013 2:44 am
You know it’s a slow news day on this site whenever the Pac-Mayweather articles start to fill the front page.Posted December 21, 2013 2:41 am
Lets start here. Why did Pac resign with top when his first contract expired? And will he do it again at the end of 2014? Pac is not oblivious to arums and floyds fued. top rank is good for building careers, no doubt. But sometimes it comes with a heavy price tag. Maybe a year ago, arum was trying to shelve chavez jr unless he signed an extention. This was pre martinez fight. chavez was even quoted as saying they knew nothing about the extention. This was because chavez expressed leaving top rank.
Onto cotto. Cotto ONLY resigned with Top rank because he knew it is only way to get a rematch with cheato. If Cotto would have walked and became a free agent, that fight doesnt happen. It was a big risk and bold move i might add. Cotto kept quiet about his moves when his contract was up with TR the second time. Once a free agent, he anounced his plans to work with Top rank on a fight by fight basis. If anybody remembers Cottos first attempt on his “fight by fight basis” was to get a rematch with Pac.
The fight fell apart due to the weight as Pac wanted Cotto to drop to 47 for the fight. Cotto even said arum offered him the same cash/percentages like he got in the first fight. arum claimed he offered him 13 mill for the fight. Cotto said it was a lie. I believe cotto. Arum is willing to partner with Cotto to get guys like rodriguez (because hes not a major fighter in the stable) or negotiate a fight with Martinez because Martinez isnt in his stable. Yet arum also knows Sergio is the B side of the equation. Guarantee you, Cotto WILL NOT TOUCH any major fighter at top rank. Even if he was fighting at 47. Cotto was smart enough not to resign with arum and do a floyd/golden boy type deal where he pays top rank to negotiate for him. Cotto is aware of pacs situation and thats why he didnt resign.
And why does the second highest pay per view star need arum anyway? Why doesnt he use MP promotions cut out the middle man, and get all the cash? There would be no shortage of opponents. Lets face it Golden Boy has 140-154 on lockdown. And lets face this fact. If floyd is scared of pac, then so is every other NON TOP RANK fighter. Nobody fights pac unless their signed to top rank. Mosley, Marquez and Bradley all had to leave their respective promoters to get a fight with pac. And the way bradley is talking about wanting to fight floyd (and his contract is up sometime next year), dont be surprised if that WBO is “lifted” from him if he fights Pac again. And especially if Pac resigns with him.Posted December 21, 2013 2:25 am
No horses died in the making of Braveheart, it was very well done, look like they got speared, it was plastic horses edited at high speed.Posted December 21, 2013 2:21 am
Adrien Broner should of done that, might of won,
youtube.com/watch?v=aNF00fSxSkAPosted December 21, 2013 2:07 am
Fight won’t happen with Arum in it. They have already tried negotiating with him on several occasions on this fight and Arum always finds a way to make the fight not happen. No need to talk about this fight while Pac is with the crook that is ArumPosted December 21, 2013 1:52 am
I get what the author is trying to say ( or at least I think I understood what he was referring to ) but its not very well written. The article doesn’t sustain a good and solid explanation? or maybe he doesn’t quite know how to type or express his point of view with words. I dont know….Posted December 21, 2013 1:27 am
haha- you guys were right. I tried reading it and it makes no sense. It lacks fluidity. Some parts sounded like out of place.Posted December 21, 2013 1:20 am
Did this author not see or read the recent article which quoted Floyd as saying he won’t fight Pacquiao while he’s with Arum?
Posted December 20, 2013 9:23 pm
Short answer= FK NO….LMAOPosted December 21, 2013 1:03 am
Mayweather v Pacquiao
youtube.com/watch?v=y0C59pI_ypQPosted December 21, 2013 12:58 am
Martin has it right. This is a horribly written article. The author lacks the wit and fluency to sound as cute and clever as they seem to think they are. The worst kind of tripe has hideous flowers growing from it.Posted December 21, 2013 12:44 am
U haul me
Mayweather is all talk. A runner in the ring And friedy cat when it comes to PAC.Posted December 21, 2013 12:31 am
Mayweather now ready to fight PAC. ??????????????Posted December 21, 2013 12:22 am
Article’s title doesn’t match storyPosted December 21, 2013 12:17 am
I don’t care if these two never fight each other.Posted December 21, 2013 12:09 am
sort the Pacquiao Mayweather fight
youtube.com/watch?v=5PdyN2doV7APosted December 20, 2013 11:52 pm
The best joke
A neutron walks into a bar and asks “how much for a beer?” The bartender says, “for you? no charge.”Posted December 20, 2013 11:40 pm
The article makes a lot of sense to me. Basically it’s wording that Floyd is not afraid of PAC. Floyd may just dismiss the bob Arum interference, fight and beat PAC, and see what all haters will say now. Hopefully he’s saying, “enough with seriously teasing you Packards”. Git eam Floyd.Posted December 20, 2013 11:35 pm
The best joke
What did the cobbler say when a cat wandered into his shop?
Shoe!Posted December 20, 2013 11:33 pm
sttttttupid… but funny. thanks for sharing.Posted December 20, 2013 11:25 pm
The best joke
Two atoms are walking down the street together. The first atom turns and says, “Hey, you just stole an electron from me!”
“Are you sure?” asks the second atom.
To which the first atom replies, “Yeah, I’m positive!”Posted December 20, 2013 11:22 pm
Reni M. Valenzuela
I love Pac`s nuts so Im still butthurt that Mayweather kicked my last hope`s a$$ Canelo Alvarez, anyway I will keep giving Mayweather $hi+ anytime I can.Posted December 20, 2013 11:18 pm
I think some people here seriously need to follow the stories better. The question is not whether Mayweather can BEAT Pacquioa rather the question is WHY does Mayweather keep delaying the fight. I for one, think Mayweather CAN beat Pacquioa but its frustrating that in every interview HE ( Mayweather ) continues to say it’s Arum; when clearly Arum is tryin to cash in on Pacquioa and make money. Its Mayweather calling the shots and it is HE who is holding back the fight and keeping it from getting negotiated….. what ever his excuse is. We are fed up with it.Posted December 20, 2013 11:05 pm
Fighters from Mayweather Promotions are testing positive for illegal substances PEDs, Dietary supplements. Why is nit an outrage from Mayweather who claims to be cleaning the sport. Oh, wait Mayweather himself test positive 3 times. WHO wants to investigate Ariza. He serves as the guy to point the finger while Mayweather cheats.Posted December 20, 2013 11:03 pm
Jesus, would you give it a rest. Boxing is full of exciting up-and-coming young stars right now, particularly from 135-175lb. I know you only watch about 4 fighters but please, do so in your own home and quit writing boring crap like this. It’s all Manny this and Floyd that with you idiots on this site. I watch boxing every week, I stay up through the night to watch the American and European fights and you know what? I don’t care in these two never fight each other. Seriously, I could tell you right now 3 fights I’d rather see and even if they did fight, well so what? You think you’ll have some kind of p4p #1? Well you won’t because they’d both retire right afterwards. Hell, they hardly fight now as it is. Just stick to your Mike Tyson videos on youtube and if you have to write something, do it on the comments there, that’s closer to your literary level.Posted December 20, 2013 11:03 pm
WTF? This whole entire article did not make any fck sense. Mayweather is nit afraid instead he is negotiating by using Bob Arum as the escape goat. LOL..how much did you get for writing such a B.S? Listen, mist people in this site have half of brain and you can’t fckn lie or manipulate the really pissue. Mayweather is not fighting Paquiao for A or B reason. He needs his “0″ to continue making fools out of people. As soon as he loses he is a dead COW!!! Plus check his Urine and Blood test they are dirty with PEDs but Vegas and Golden Boy are hiding the true!!!Posted December 20, 2013 10:48 pm
You have potential with that style of yours, but your attempt at being too fanciful turned out too wordy, without proper grammar….. But you do have MAD potential….If your desire is to truly inform & entertain – good for you! C.S Lewis would be a good role model for what you hope to accomplish…..I dont know if he was into boxing though, or sports for that matter. Anyway, Mayweather fans don’t mind him fighting Manny, at all! Its just that he doesnt win either way…If he fights him, the haters will say, “Manny was damaged goods!” …..If he doesnt fight him, haters will say, “Mayweather KNOWS this guy is just too much for him, so he’ll NEVER fight him!” Us fans of Mayweather (I’m a DIE-HARD fan) arent holding him back, we just know – “he loses” regardless.Posted December 20, 2013 10:11 pm
Floyd is my champ. if pactards will continue run i become one of them, I mean MayweatherPosted December 20, 2013 10:00 pm
Mayweather is unbeatable but i want him to beat PacPosted December 20, 2013 9:56 pm
I agreePosted December 20, 2013 9:54 pm
Reni writes excellent articles.. I enjoy reading him agree or notPosted December 20, 2013 9:54 pm
P4p king Mayweather would school pacman all 12 rounds easy! Best counter puncher in the game period. Pacman style is Tailor made for mayweather. Mayweather far from being scared 1)just don’t want Bob arum to make a penny off (he stated this years ago) 2) the same dumb@ss said the same s#it about mayweather wouldn’t fight Canelo….who he schooled!! Canelo weighted 165lb on fight. No worries bout little pacPosted December 20, 2013 9:39 pm
“count everything nice hereunder to be profound poetry or plain satire”
Can I just count it as a really, really badly written article?Posted December 20, 2013 9:30 pm
Did this author not see or read the recent article which quoted Floyd as saying he won’t fight Pacquiao while he’s with Arum?Posted December 20, 2013 9:23 pm
Mayweather would be shaking if that fight got signed, the build up, just before the fight, he knows it, he is a Boxer.Posted December 20, 2013 9:15 pm
Read my lips, “I DON’T LIKE WHITE FIGHTERS, OR ASIAN FOR THAT MATTER.”Posted December 20, 2013 9:13 pm
Mayweather is not going to fight Pacquiao, he is scared of getting his chin checked, it will not happen, Mayweather is scared of Pacquiao, write all the articles, it will not happen because Mayweather is scared of Pacquiao, it is as simple as that, goodnight.Posted December 20, 2013 9:12 pm
Blah, blah, blah, blah!Posted December 20, 2013 9:11 pm
Read Floyd lips.. the money is too much to resist LOLPosted December 20, 2013 9:00 pm
Oh yeah? Hope so.. brave it FloydPosted December 20, 2013 8:58 pm
Contradicting stories here….I believe the earlier 1. And again I say 2015 after the Arum era…..only problem it will b 2 late cause pacman will lose in 2014.Posted December 20, 2013 8:57 pm
Reni, give it up. Floyd is behind the controls and decides his own fate. It’s called power and one boxer has it.Posted December 20, 2013 8:57 pm
De Lima I.
Oh just stop writing articles Reni!Posted December 20, 2013 8:47 pm
I’m sorry Remi, but I don’t follow your article, not sure what you mean.Posted December 20, 2013 8:37 pm