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Tachyon
Hec Dog how do you call Pac the greatest of our generation when he just lost 2 out of 3 fights one by brutal KO? are you insane?

YOU NEED TO SEE A PSYCHIATRIST DUDE. DO YOU REALLY THINK PACK LOST TO BRADLEY… SO DO YOU REALLY THINK PAC WAS LOSING TO MARQUEZ BEFORE THE K/O.. YOU NEED HELP MAN.

Posted December 26, 2013 9:26 pm 


moonshineman

Both are tailor made for little floyd. Why doesn’t little floyd fight someone who has a chance to really challenge him?.

Oops!, I forgot, too many excuse for that. Little floyd don’t want to lose his -0-, so he won’t go, to fight the Pacman.

He pokes fun at Pac, but make no mistake about it, he doesn’t have the stones to step in the ring with Pacquiao, Oh No.

Posted December 26, 2013 5:17 pm 


Losing patience!

I agree, Khan does not deserve Mayweather fight and theres a long list of fighters that do BUT Khan does somehow have the correct tools to give Floyd trouble if you minus his glass jaw (Damn,that glass jaw) but i doubt Khan can execute his abilities and talents – mainly speed – cause of that damn glass jaw. There is another fighter though with same plus more abilitiies and talents that could execute ….. But Floyd wont ever ever ever go there. That said i put Maidana ahead of Khan. He deserves his payday after smashing up that other big mouthed pretender

Posted December 24, 2013 7:51 am 


Some random guy

Maidana & Garcia deserve a shot against Duckweather more than China Chin Khan does

Posted December 24, 2013 2:31 am 


rax

TARK – mate you’re disdain for sredmond has finally cracked you up. you’re actually arguing the logistics for FLoyd fighting 2 maidanas – fighting 2 of anyone or fighting a fighter armed with a baseball bat – its all just figures of speech – at first i thought you setting up SRED for another burn but then you started outlining what would happen if it were true.
you need to stop reading his comments mate, you’re losing it.

Posted December 24, 2013 1:35 am 


Hidalgo

“YOU are a conspiracy theorist, revisionist and teller of tall tales… You worship at the Church of fellow conspiracy theorist “Heretic” just inventing scenarios to try and fill the gaps in your thinking….”

Not my fault you’re the security guard for a multi-level parking center.

Posted December 24, 2013 12:20 am 


TARK

Sredmond says… “You could put 2 Maidanas in the ring and they would get blown out by Floyd.” … Hmmm, Maidana is a good attacker… So I guess while one Maidana attacked Floyd his clone would patiently wait his turn instead of attacking Floyd from the side?

Floyd would beat one Maidana easy… Two Maidana’s would score a first round KO over Floyd…that would be murderous…

Also… 2 Floyd’s would score a 1st round KO over Maidana.

Is Sredmond stupid or he nuts?

Posted December 23, 2013 9:57 pm 


Tachyon

Hec Dog how do you call Pac the greatest of our generation when he just lost 2 out of 3 fights one by brutal KO? are you insane?

Posted December 23, 2013 9:32 pm 


SREDMOND

Hidalgo, I would say that your reasoning is “idiotic” but that would mean that you have powers of reasoning that I have long deduced that you do NOT…. YOU are a conspiracy theorist, revisionist and teller of tall tales… You worship at the Church of fellow conspiracy theorist “Heretic” just inventing scenarios to try and fill the gaps in your thinking….

Posted December 23, 2013 9:14 pm 


Hidalgo

Sredmond, two Maidanas in the ring with Floyd would beat him senseless. Really sometimes your reasoning is idiotic.

Posted December 23, 2013 8:46 pm 


Hidalgo

Why is there a question mark on the title of this article?

Posted December 23, 2013 8:42 pm 


Hec Dog

Manny Pacquiao is the greatest fighter of our generation. I think even Floyd fans can agree with that. As time passes by, Floyd Mayweather will become more transparent and less important in boxing. A great read that is eye opening and begins to unmask Floyd is the article, “The Ped Mess” written by historic and well respected boxing writer, Thomas Hauser. Please read, and see where it takes you. Floyd may not his self proclaimed drug testing pioneer. As a matter of fact, he may be the complete opposite. Another layer comes off of Floyd as we look into Floyd’s PPV numbers. Floyd cannot draw flies alone, but selects his opponents depending on their fans base and their threat of beating him. Today there was talk of Floyd inviting Canelo Alvarez to be on his under card. Hmmm……..I wonder what his motivation is? Thirdly, Floyd said in the beginning that he was concerned about his health. He accused Manny of using, he then was sued by Manny, ended giving him an apology and paid him a certain amount of money. He has not mentioned his health ever since. Listen gentlemen, I can go on and on. Arum, Money, size of the ring, gloves and a million other excuses. What’s most embarrassing i Floyd’s peers such as Roy Jones, Julio Cesar Chavez, Mike Tyson, Larry Holmes, Marvin Hagler and others that look at Floyd a being afraid to fight Manny Pacquiao. Floyd may have all the money and fame he needs for his ego, but what he does not have is the true respect of past and present great fighters and the fans. Manny on the other hand has had them throughout his career. Manny is the best.

Posted December 23, 2013 7:25 pm 


rax

thrash – apart from totally ignoring my points you bring up floyd spadafora spar from ten years ago. that is such old news that nobody brings that up anymore. nobody. all the facts of that spar are on record. jesus. as for GGG ignore the fact that i said i was a fan from his amateur days but fact 1. he was the favourite going into the gold medal fight in athens – and he couldn’t handle his russian opponents mauling tactics. fact 2. he hasn’t fought a single decent 160 pound fighter. all he has done is what you would expect a fighter of his talent to do against blown up 154pounders like ishida and rosado and b grade 160′s like macklin, stevens and his next victim adama!!! embarrass me? you embarrass yourself when you refuse to enter into a discussion/ debate on the sport and instead resorting to insults – its childish and indicates a lack of boxing knowledge and/or an inability to express it.

Posted December 23, 2013 5:01 pm 


DEEPWATER1552

floyd couldnt knock out his wife how could he ko maidana

Posted December 23, 2013 4:38 pm 


Tachyon

Op Amp poor sredmond got used and abused I sent him to bed with a glass of milk and a cookie dude presented zero data only thing he had accurate were numbers for psychiatrist he visited.

Posted December 23, 2013 2:46 pm 


Op Amp

LMAO!! For all the ESB posters who cant stand sredmond the racist, I invite you to read the post below by “poor sredmond”. He did a good job of kicking tachyons a ss too. Lol!

Posted December 23, 2013 12:35 pm 


Anonymous

ray robinson. the best there was,the best there ever will be.

Posted December 23, 2013 12:21 pm 


urone2

Mayweather will be beat one day but pacquiao beating him is very unlikely. When Mayweather gave into all of Pacquiao and Arums demands and asked for RBT and was denied because Arum and company still wanted to negotiate the terms of the RBT instead of just an ok lets fight. Then Mayweather tried to contact Pacquiao directly and after that talk to his manager to try and seal the deal. But, the people who support Mayweather are the ones that are deluded. After Mayweathers effort to make the fight happen and realizing that Arum had no real interest in making it happen, IMO Mayweather has moved on.

Again IMO the fight will not happen as long as Arum is involved because when it was at it’s peak Arum would not let it happen. Yes, I do believe Pacquiao when he says I will fight whoever they put in front of me. I just don’t believe Arum when his mouth is moving.

Posted December 23, 2013 11:12 am 


boxing barlow

Maidana? Really? and some people are saying Khan does not represent a big enough threat to warrant a Mayweather fight yet Maidana is being touted. We’ve exhausted the ‘swarming’ type of fighter. Look at how easy Floyd handled Hatton who for me was a better fighter than Maidana is, Maidana wouldnt stand a chance!

Posted December 23, 2013 11:00 am 


Losing patience!

You see Broner lacked the chicken qualities that Mayweather posseses. Thats why he was a sitting duck

Posted December 23, 2013 11:00 am 


Losing patience!

Alverez over hyped. Mathew Hatton took him the distance for crying out loud. Mayweathers a clever man but have you noticed how he darts around the ring like the chicken Rocky was chasing in the movie!

Posted December 23, 2013 10:47 am 


SREDMOND

You could put 2 Maidanas in the ring and they would get blown out by Floyd Mayweather who just defeated a much better, stronger and bigger fighter in Canelo Alvarez… Maidana does not have the technique to even trouble Floyd Mayweather, if you think he’s a master safecracker because he handed Broner a loss you are sorely mistaken….Cotto applied FAR more intelligent pressure consistent with his status as a 3 weight World Champ and future HOFER and he met with a UD LOSS…. Maidana was one of Broners FIRST times to the dance, Mayweather has beat more HOFERS, current World Champs and former World Champs than Maidana has fingers and toes..

Posted December 23, 2013 10:35 am 


Swedish Boxing Fan

Fredrik Eklund – Thanks comrade ;-)

Posted December 23, 2013 10:26 am 


Jake

Heretic just decimated all the Flomos.

Floyd defo dirty and ya’ll know it. LOL

Posted December 23, 2013 10:05 am 


Losing patience!

There are a few deluded Mayweatherworshipers here in the UK to who defend every excuse he comes up with no matter how ridiculous or cowardly it sounds.They behave like somehow they have been hypnotized to stand by their man and fill his bank accounts with their hard earned cash whilst others pay only in the hope that his next cherry picked opponent takes his 0. Yes he is an elite level fighter but there is another elite level GREAT fighter he has to fight (sorry,BOX) IN ORDER TO BE MENTIONED WITH PAST GREATS – PACMAN. Only Floyd can make this happen or not happen.It has to happen next whilst both are capable or he will always be remembered as Chicken.

Posted December 23, 2013 9:34 am 


Losing patience!

Also if maidana uses his head Mayweather will fall like Broner but he wont get back up to fight on. The fight with Alverez only happened cuz he s slow on his feet and only throws 2 or 3 more punches a round than Floyd.Plus he likes to counter punch so is a poor version of Mayweather.And to make it that little bit easier made Alverez lose too much weight. Hence Mayweather won easily. If he grows some and fights Pacman he will only want it at middle,v.large ring and those extra large fun gloves you see at kids parties

Posted December 23, 2013 6:59 am 


MJames

Khan is a joke, man, come on Floyd, everyone knows he just wants that retirement pay day. Fight Maidana.

Posted December 23, 2013 6:44 am 


Losing patience!

Deserves it ahead of Khan and would need a ref to allow Maidana to fight inside and rough him up like he did with Broner but if he landed the low blows against Mayweathers ref he would probably lose by disqualification. COME ON MAYWEATHER,MAN UP AND FIGHT PACMAN!

Posted December 23, 2013 6:41 am 


Tachyon

Well if he steps into the ring with Mayweather all Maidana will bring is a whupped ass and lost title.

Posted December 23, 2013 6:34 am 


FOCK FLOYD MAYWEATHER

Floyd.is a bored.fighter.to.watch run run making.the points fight.is.over.he.just.talk.a lot.of.sh!!t I.rather.watch a fighter like maidana he brings emotion to.the ring

Posted December 23, 2013 6:22 am 


pingu

pretty well established that Floyd failed several t tests. that nig it’s a cheat.ever since going up from 135lb

Posted December 23, 2013 6:21 am 


Tachyon

I would like to see Pac vs Provodnikov that would be a good fight much better than Rios vs Pac.

Posted December 23, 2013 6:03 am 


Tachyon

LOL Old Coot must be Arum in disguise he is waving the Pac flag to bad its at half mast.

Posted December 23, 2013 5:58 am 


Anonymous

THRASH, you asked TARK who he picked out of Broner and Maidana.
Well, TARK picked Broner by knockout and that is a FACT.

Posted December 23, 2013 4:45 am 


Happyboy

Old Coot – and Pac faught the best fighters in Rios, Margarito, Mosley, Clottey, Hutton, Diaz & 40yr old Marquez who put his lights out.

Posted December 23, 2013 4:26 am 


Old Coot

Mbuyiseli: Make that… Floyd is scared of anybody who comes forward fast and relentlessly with LOTS of punches, power and a chin.

Posted December 23, 2013 4:11 am 


Old Coot

Mbuyiseli: Yep… Floyd is scared of anybody who comes forward fast and relentlessly with power and a chin.

Posted December 23, 2013 4:10 am 


Mbuyiseli

Never bothered to read this crap, I love these delusional fans. Now Floyd is scared of Maidana. Are you guys this crazy, realy?

Posted December 23, 2013 2:37 am 


Old Coot

Ya’ll can just forget about Mayducker ever fighting ANYONE super aggressive with quick hands AND feet… Floyd simply will not fight with anyone he can’t keep at a distance and pot-shot to a UD… PERIOD!! He made a slight but uncharacteristic miscalculation in underestimating Cotto, and that scared him a bit… But that was his one slip up. Trust me, he won’t make that mistake with anyone better than Cotto.

Posted December 23, 2013 1:37 am 


Hidalgo

“So why didn’t he just produce the documents containing his test results to nip those damaging allegations in the bud if he has nothing to hide? ”

Very good question, Heretic. Maybe he’s related to Barack Obama. How hard can it possibly be to produce the evidence–if it exists–then he could easily say “See, I told you I was clean.”

However, I imagine that part of the settlement agreement that Floyd made with Manny included a stipulation that Manny could not discuss, make an issue of, or request Mayweather’s drug testing results. After all, we’re not hearing anymore about it are we?

Posted December 23, 2013 12:40 am 


TARK

SameOleBS says.., “Robinson beat Tommy Bell to win the 147 crown.”

Bell was no great shakes…. It wasn’t like Ralph Jones and Joey Maxim beating Sugar Ray Robinson.. Those were big deals.. Because Jones had lost 5 fights in a row to guys you never heard of — and Joey Maxim was slow and couldn’t punch.

Unfortunately Robinson refused to fight rematches with both of them.

Floyd beat Carlos Baldomir for the 147 crown when Baldomir was the lineal Welterweight Champion of the World… The way it happened was Mosley beat De La Hoya… Forrest beat Mosley… Mayorga beat Forrest… Spinks beat Mayorga… Judah beat Spinks… Baldomir beat Judah… Mayweather beat Baldomir…

That’s the way you do it stupid… You beat the lineal guy.

Posted December 23, 2013 12:18 am 


Ray Ray

Lots of people pay 2 watch that boring guy? Winning.

Posted December 22, 2013 11:12 pm 


Tachyon

Swedish Boxing Fan I can tell you were defiantly bet all your money on Canelo. PBF does not worry about what you type on this site or what I type its all about the business of boxing and looking PPV numbers and with Pac drawing nothing in his last bout it does not make sense for the fight. Plus Pac is asking for more than 30% which also makes no sense. Floyd does not need Pac and his PPV will draw no matter who he fights. Pac on the other hand is on the Titanic and Arum has already jumped in the life boat leaving Pac to sink.

Posted December 22, 2013 10:49 pm 


The Best!

Maidana would lose because Floyd would fight to win and not look to destroy his opponent therefore taking little chances making it for a boring fight on his behalf

Posted December 22, 2013 10:48 pm 


Ray Ray

Why Floyd Mayweather wont fight Maidana’ Thats easy, Maidana would get his ass handed 2 him.

Posted December 22, 2013 10:22 pm 


Ray Ray

Never have i heard or seen such jelousy or blindness toward a guy who will b an all time great…..reminds me of Ali whilst he was active. Not much liked, now u wont hear a bad word said about him. U dont hsve 2 like Floyd but 4 now hes the king, plain and simple.

Posted December 22, 2013 10:21 pm 


Thrashnephilim

Redmond, Peej & proud African… Looks like you have one leg to stand on… Putting a lot of weight on that one leg too… If it brakes,…(if FMJ loses) you ALL FALL DOWN. Then what, you 3 have blower’s cramp like you’re on his payroll. He’s good and lb for lb but you profess how he will never and nobody can.. BS! Until he retires, BS!!!! You know who would never and nobody coul?!?!? Joe Calzaghe! He retired nobody beat him and Floyd hasn’t yet finnished, be wise and stop projecting before I have to buy you sorry bastids some Kleenex.

Posted December 22, 2013 10:13 pm 


david d.

FMJ should fight the other champs at 147 lbs and then defend his portion of the 154lb title by challenging the other champions at 154lbs!

Posted December 22, 2013 10:05 pm 


boxs

Maidana should fight Danny Garcia would be nice

Posted December 22, 2013 9:59 pm 


Marvin Monzon

Swedish Boxing Fan wrote: “The Mayweather family belives they are the best and can’t be defeated”, You wrong my friend; their usual “cherry-picking” is the proof, and I follow boxing since 1981 (after watching Leonard/Hearns) and I can say that “the best vs the best” in boxing is over since the end of the 80′s, and sadly; us boxing fans we can nothing against that, looks at the period between 1990 & 1995 and see how many mega fights in heavyweight, super middleweight, and middleweight have never been done? (sorry for my bad English)

Posted December 22, 2013 9:46 pm 


Swedish Boxing Fan

I’m so sick tired of Floyd Mayweather Jr’s GIANT EGO to death. He makes all real boxing fans sick with not only his incredible GREED but ALSO how he trash talk other fighters that they are less worth and “Don’t” sell etc. SHUT THE F£CK UP Floyd Mayweather Jr, Now I have had it with this punk.

All fans want to see Mayweather Jr vs Manny Paquiao and the fight will be a BIG seller – WE ALL know that very well.

WHO CARES IF YOU SELL MORE PPV? NO REAL BOXING FAN BUT PEOPLE WHO DON’T LOVE THE SPORT AND ITS HISTORY.
WE WANT THE GOOD FIGHTS MADE AND CARE LESS WHAT YOU MAKE FOR BIG BUCKS. PEOPLE REMEMBER THE FIGHTERS FIGHTS, DONT THE MONEYS EARNED.

This is another bad and sad ezcuse from Floyd Mayweather Jr in the long road now. So fighting a over-hyped and glass jaw Amir Khan is better then Paquiao? Now this is another point of how scared Mayweather Jr is to fight a fighter that can hurt his precius little “0″ on his paper record.

Then fight Bernard Hopkins then at middleweight level if you want a selling fight. Fight the old legend if Manny “Pac-Man” Paquioa is to much.

“Sugar” Ray Leonard, Roberto Duran, Thomas Hearns, Felix “Tito” Trinidad, Oscar De La Hoya, Paul Williams, Sergio Gabriel Martinez, etc all came from lower weight classes BUT all of them made it to become recognised world middleweight champions even if they where BEST at lower level and that is something you have never even dared to try.

You defeated Oscar De La Hoya? Yeah BARELY with a close SD and hanging, Hopkins became the 1st and only fighter to knock-out De La Hoya and Trinidad the same and took there world title belts.

I feel Floyd Mayweather Jr only likes to fight at a level he knows he can’t lose in and if so manny other good champions dared to go up to middleweight class and even became a world champion, why can’t Floyd dare the same when his body can do that!
So you can’t win at middleweight? Is it to hard?

The Mayweather family belives they are the best and can’t be defeated, well I’m so hopöing they all will get a huge hard knockout so they can wake up. Of course Floyd Mayweather Jr is unbeaten wehn they don’t dare match him against any opponnt posessing a thret to him in the ring.

Beside, Mayweather Jr’,s fights have any way never been that fun to watch and why is that? Becouse there are not much for a fight to watch happening and it doesent help thatr he have ducked Manny Paquiao, Paul Williams, rematch with Oscar De La Hoya etc so the day he gets defeated or retire, I will be glad becouse I’m so tired of the HUGE EGO.

People, how much of this are we put up to take? There have never been such a EGO fighter in modern time as Mayweather Jr and I wan’t him knocked down to the canvass hard now.

Posted December 22, 2013 8:44 pm 


Boxtradamus

Maidana is #0 P4P. Enough SAID.

Posted December 22, 2013 8:08 pm 


Rapid

Test….

Posted December 22, 2013 7:59 pm 


Ray Ray

Here we go again….put Floyds name 2 something and watch the posts sky rocket….good performance by Maidana vs Broner but c’mon man he has zero 2 no chance of beatinf Floyd, 2 easy 2 hit and not long enough just like manny….

Posted December 22, 2013 7:55 pm 


The Prince

The truth is, many Mayweather detractors know that Floyd and Manny won’t fight because of boxing politics like Top Rank and Golden Boy being in competition. But they need for this to be the case so they’ll have some ammunition to use again Floyd Mayweather to try and discredit his career. Like others have said, even if Floyd does fight and beat Pacquiao, the same names will make excuse in trying to discredit Floyd’s win, and then look for another “dangerous fighter” Floyd is “scared of” and “ducking”. It’s clear what their true intentions are and it has nothing to do with seeing Floyd “fight the best.” It has to do with someone, anyone, handing Floyd his first loss. Which is why you have people on here talking about Floyd needs to fight middleweights when he can barely maintain his weight above 147.

Posted December 22, 2013 6:39 pm 


Jack Mehoff

Alas Floyd would make a fool of young Marcus !!

Posted December 22, 2013 6:37 pm 


SameOleBS

Robinson beat Tommy Bell to win the 147 pound crown. Napoles beat Curtis Cokes to win the 147 lb crown .Hearns beat Cuevas to win the 147 title , Leonard beat Benitez to win a 147 pound title , Duran beat Leonard to win a 147 lb title and the great Floyd Mayweather beat Carlos Baldomir looooooooool

Posted December 22, 2013 6:31 pm 


SameOleBS

Mayweather needs to grow a pair of balls , become a “fighter ” instead of a ” businessman ” and fight Manny Pacquiao , Lara and if he beats them chase the 160 pound crown. Its always little guys coming up in weight ( except for the overhyped Alvarez who was gifted a decision against the VERY mediocre Austin Trout ) . Floyd hasnt fought as a weight below welter in 7 years. Why all the little guys . The only genuine natural welterweight FMJ has fought was Baldomir. All the others were 140 pounders. Judah , Oscar ( has been ), Hatton , Marquez ( fat midget ) , Mosley ( old man ) , Ortiz , Cotto , Guerrero . When you look at that list it has to be the worst bunch of defenses that any long term 147 pound champion has faced.

These black guys like SREDmond support Floyd like he is a movie star , a rapper or a businessman like say JayZ or Russell Simmons instead of a prize fighter . They forgive his cowardly cherry picking and point to his wealth. Its not like Floyd is Bill Gates :D . On the global scale of real wealth Floyd is a nobody.

In reality FMJ and his team know he needs his zero or he couldnt sell a heater to an eskimo. I see they are trying to get Canelo on the undercard. His fights are invariably dull and without a marquee opponent ( to sell to the spanish speaking market ) Floyd isnt that big a seller. His Uncle Rog pulled the same routine back in the 80s – the Mexican Killer . Then he faced Chavez :D

Posted December 22, 2013 6:24 pm 


Heretic

In mid-May, Winky Wright was preparing to fight Peter Quillin in a June 2nd bout promoted by Golden Boy at the Home Depot Center in Carson, California.

“Everybody kept popping up positive for all this stuff,” Wright told Montoya. “Boxing isn’t always a fair game. I figured I should get this [testing] too. So I called Golden Boy and said, ‘Why we ain’t doing it?’ They was like ‘Uh, etcetera, etcetera, this and this and that, and someone didn’t want to pay.’ I said ‘Okay; I’m going to pay for it. I just want to play on the same field.’”

Wright and Quillin entered into a May 21, 2012 contract with Golden Boy and USADA pursuant to which USADA was to provide drug testing services in conjunction with their fight.

“I didn’t know the difference between [USADA and VADA].” Wright says. “I just told Golden Boy I wanted to be tested and they came back with USADA.”

On or about May 23rd, USADA collected blood and urine samples from Quillin. Wright gave samples on May 24th.

“They came to my house at six in the morning,” Winky recalls. “They took urine, blood, everything.”

Then, without warning, Wright was told that the testing was off.

“I think it was like two days later,” Winky told Gabriel Montoya. “Golden Boy called and told Damian [Ramirez, Wright’s manager], and Damian told me. I don’t understand it. All I’m asking is, ‘How do you take urine and take blood and then, all of sudden, you say you aren’t going to test it?’ Then they tried to make up an excuse and say they wanted to teach us. There ain’t nothing to teach. They took blood. They told us we would take a test and either come up positive or negative. That’s it. All I want to know is, are we playing on the same field? So my lawyer called and asked for it to be tested and they told him they threw it out. They told my attorney they threw it out. That’s crazy. Why would they throw it out? They just finished [taking samples] and they’re going to throw it out already? Does this sound crazy? We gave samples. Let’s test that and let me see the result. They threw it out. I just don’t understand that.”

Quillin-Wright went ahead as planned with Quillin winning a unanimous 10-round decision. Quillin, like Andre Berto and Floyd Mayweather, is managed by Al Haymon.

The contract that Wright and Quillin entered into with Golden Boy and USADA specifically provided, “USADA will be responsible for storing the samples after collection and transporting them safely and securely to a laboratory for analysis…USADA will send all samples for analysis to a WADA [World Anti-Doping Agency] accredited laboratory under contract to USADA…USADA shall maintain Sample Collection Documentation, including test results for testing conducted under this Master Agreement, for a period of six years.”

“The destruction of samples isn’t supposed to happen,” Ryan Connolly states. “If that happened in an Olympic context, it would set off alarms in a lot of places. There would likely be a thorough investigation by the International Olympic Committee and WADA.”

Victor Conte adds, “The trend in drug-testing now is to save samples longer than before, not pour them down the drain.”

Posted December 22, 2013 6:22 pm 


Heretic

And how is this PED business with Haymon and his fighters not extremely shady?

In August of this year, Rodriguez signed with manager Al Haymon. At least three of Haymon’s fghters (Andre Berto, Antonio Tarver, and J’Leon Love) have tested positive for PEDs in the past.

Another Haymon fighter (Peter Quillin) was enrolled in a USADA testing program prior to his June 2, 2012, fight against Winky Wright. Then, after blood and urine samples were taken from both fighters, Wright was told that the testing had been abandoned and the samples were destroyed.

Haymon also represents Adrien Broner.

Broner, Antonio DeMarco, Golden Boy (Broner’s promoter), and the United States Anti-Doping Agency signed a contract for USADA testing prior to the November 17, 2012, Broner-DeMarco fight. But according to DeMarco, he wasn’t tested by USADA for that bout, nor was Broner.

Then, on June 22, 2013, Broner fought Paulie Malignaggi.

“I wanted VADA testing,” Malignaggi recalls. “And I was told, ‘No, we won’t do VADA. If you insist on VADA, there won’t be a fight.’ Finally, I said, ‘F— it. I’m getting seven figures. I’ll go ahead and fight.’ Would I have been more confident that Broner was clean if there had been VADA testing? Absolutely.”

Haymon’s flagship fighter, of course, is Floyd Mayweather.

On June 24, 2013, at a media sitdown before the kick-off press conference for Mayweather vs. Canelo Alvarez, Leonard Ellerbe (CEO of Mayweather Promotions) told reporters, “We’ve put in place a mechanism where all Mayweather Promotions fighters will do mandatory blood and urine testing 365-24-7 by USADA.”

USADA declined a request from this writer for comment on the truth of Ellerbe’s contention. Al Haymon also declined comment for this article. And questions remain regarding the issue of whether or not, several years ago, Mayweather “A” samples tested positive on three occasions.

Referencing that issue, Dan Rafael of ESPN stated during a November 21, 2012, online chat, “I need to see proof before I accuse somebody of something so serious. What is fact, however, is that the settlement in the Pacquiao-Mayweather lawsuit happened after the Pacquiao camp tried to get Mayweather’s USADA testing records. So maybe where there is smoke there is fire.”

So here’s a suggestion. Why doesn’t Floyd Mayweather enroll in VADA’s 24-7-365 program? And let him state publicly, “Any fighter who wants to be eligible to fight me must enroll in VADA’s 24-7-365 program NOW.”

And let’s take it a step further. In addition to Mayweather, Broner, Quillin, Berto, and Love, Al Haymon currently represents Danny Garcia, Devon Alexander, Lucas Matthysse, Marcos Maidana, Leo Santa Cruz, Keith Thurman, Austin Trout, Omar Figueroa, Gary Russell Jr, Sakio Bika, Josesito Lopez, Erislandy Lara, Shawn Porter, Errol Spence, Chris Arreola, Seth Mitchell, and Deontay Wilder.

Let’s assume that all of these fighters are clean. Let them all enter a 24-7-365 VADA testing program. I can’t speak for anyone else. But that would certainly make a believer out of me.

Al and Floyd have enough money to fund it.

It’s easy to talk the talk. Let’s see who walks the walk.

Posted December 22, 2013 6:20 pm 


Heretic

You don’t go from doing a complete about turn and withdraw all your accusations of someone being a drug cheat as soon as you’re petitioned in court to produce your own test results that could possible incriminate you unless you have something to hide.

They went from this

”Look at the size of his head. It’s obvious he dirty”

–Floyd Mayweather

”Pacquiao can’t beat Clottey without that s h * t in him. He couldn’t beat De la Hoya without that *expletive*. He couldn’t beat Ricky Hatton without that s h * t. And he couldn’t beat Cotto without that s**t. I don’t even think he could beat that kid from Chicago [David Diaz] without that s h * t. He wouldn’t be able to beat any of those guys without enhancement drugs.”

–Floyd Mayweather Sr.

“This mother***** don’t want to take the test. That’s why the fight [Mayweather vs. Pacquiao] didn’t happen. He got that s h * t in him. That’s why he didn’t want to take the test.”

–Roger Mayweather

To this

Mayweather Promotions issued a statement that read: “Floyd Mayweather Jr., Floyd Mayweather Sr., Roger Mayweather and Mayweather Promotions wish to make it clear that they never intended to claim that Manny Pacquiao has used or is using any performance-enhancing drugs nor are they aware of any evidence that Manny Pacquiao has used performance-enhancing drugs. Manny Pacquiao is a great champion and no one should construe any of our prior remarks as claiming that Manny Pacquiao has used performance-enhancing drugs.”

Posted December 22, 2013 6:18 pm 


TARK

Unlike the author’s claims that Maricano made a career out of fighting bigger quicker guys, Rocky’s title challengers were light heavyweights… Unlike Frazier he never met a big, strong, powerhouse puncher like George Foreman. If he did the same thing would have happened.

Posted December 22, 2013 6:13 pm 


Heretic

PEEJ why do you insist on being so wilfully ignorant all the time and switch off your common sense detector when it doesn’t suit your agenda? The most respected scribe in the sport, and the chairman of the Boxing Writers Association of America committee no less, wrote an article that insinuates Floyd has had three positive test results covered up but Mayweather does nothing even though it’s highly damaging to his reputation and credibility to have such accusations levelled at him?

Mayweather’s reputation as a clean fighter has been sullied and his position as the sport’s fiercest campaigner against PED cheats has been greatly compromised by these allegations. So why didn’t he just produce the documents containing his test results to nip those damaging allegations in the bud if he has nothing to hide?

And why did he drop all his allegations against Pacquiao and pay him a hefty out of court settlement when asked to produce those same documents before a court of law?

It’s abundantly obvious to anyone with a brain why he didn’t. Because had he continued to pursue and legal recourse against either Pacquiao or Hauser it would resulted in him having but no choice to produce them. That’s the reason why we’ve never seen those documents with his test results on.

If Mayweather was really genuine about wanting to clean up the sport he would know that having accusations about him being a drug cheat levelled at him are greatly damaging to his credibility. He’s supposed to be the one spearheading the charge top clean up the sport. It’s like the head of the Catholic church having accusations of being a nonce hanging over his head. Don’t you think if he had nothing to hide he would’ve produced those documents by now? It would be the easiest thing in the world for him to do. He could put an end to any talk of him being a dirty fight in an instant but instead his inaction allows them to gain traction. What did Pacquiao when Mayweather accused him of being a cheat? He took him to court and sued him for defamation of character. But Mayweather does nothing when the shoes on the other foot.

And if he was also really genuine about wanting to rid the sport of drug cheats he would’n’t have two convicted ones in his stable. That too is greatly damages his credibility as the head of the let’s clean up the sport campaign.

What about his promoter Al Haymon and the extremely shady shenanigans with test results being destroyed and him not wanting any of his fighters to do VADA testing? That too also harms Mayweather’s credibility. Especially since quite a few members of Haymon’s stable have been caught red-handed taking PEDs and that Mayweather doesn’t do VADA either.

And stop with this nonsense about there being a big scandal if Mayweather had tested positive. Very few people have access to those test results and how many of the few who have had do you think have a vested interest in those results not ever seeing the light of day?

There was no scandal when Roy Jones tested positive for PEDS. It was actually covered up by the media swept under the rug. There was no scandal regarding the abundance of positive test results the US Olympic Committee covered up in the late 80s to the year 2000. Thousands of American athletes failed tests during that time but no one knew anything about it until recently. How many of those athletes have been named and shamed yet? The documents are all there stacked in boxes but we’ve never heard so much a peep about it let alone a public inquiry or scandal.

Posted December 22, 2013 6:11 pm 


PEEJ

Floyd hasn’t likely failed anything. And rumor is why was Pacs team asking what would happen if Pac failed a test. Why does that matter. But you know what, they are all rumors. And from the looks of it Floyd has every right to have Pac take a drug test especially after what happened with Rios.

Posted December 22, 2013 5:46 pm 


Tachyon

Does not make a difference fact is Manny could have agreed to random test I mean it’s the same damn test you just don’t know dates in advance. If Pac wanted the fight he could have had it 2 yrs ago when he was at the top with 50/50 split. now he is at the bottom and the IRS is on his butt Pac will take any kind of test now from random to pap smear. PAC lost all clout and May calls the shots so say what you want, think what you want, end result Floyd is top dog and calls the shots the way he wants case closed.

Posted December 22, 2013 5:40 pm 


Old Coot

PB: Why you gotta make assertions like that man? Just keep it on boxing… Please?

Posted December 22, 2013 5:26 pm 


Old Coot

Peej: Turns out Manny was likely justified on Rios too… But FLOYD has never been justified on Manny as he’s never even had so much as a rumor of cheating, let alone failed a test… But Floyd has likely failed 3… And you still never answered my question, and won’t because you can’t. So I guess in the twisted logic of Floydiacs, only queen FLOYD can make demands without any cause, but nobody else can, even WITH cause! LOL! Typical… Just shut up and tell Floyd to step up!!

Posted December 22, 2013 5:24 pm 


PB

We’re paying to keep PEEJ and Tachyon on welfare.

Posted December 22, 2013 5:21 pm 


PEEJ

And like I said who Marquez hired had nothing to do with Rios. So why did he have Rios take the test then?

Posted December 22, 2013 5:14 pm 


Old Coot

Woops I meant that Pacquiao had the fact that Marquez had hired Heredia as jusfication.

Posted December 22, 2013 4:56 pm 


PEEJ

Does not matter who he had in his corner. Marquez has never failed a test and also offered to take any test Pac wanted. Why did he have Rios take it? He had nothing to do with Pac.

Posted December 22, 2013 4:55 pm 


Old Coot

Peej: As I keep saying but you keep ignoring, Marquez had the fact that Marquez had recently hired convicted PED cheat master, Angel Heredia… Floyd however HAD NOTHING, NADA, ZIP other than what he knew about the Morales loss… So was Floyd justified in his demands? And if so, why?

Posted December 22, 2013 4:53 pm 


PEEJ

Killa, the article said it. In the article if you actually read the article he says it, rumor has spread.

Posted December 22, 2013 4:51 pm 


PEEJ

There is no likely real evidence on Floyd or it would of already come out already. Floyd has the same evidence on Pac as Pac has against Marquez which is none. But Pac still accused Marquez even though Marquez said he would take any test Pac wanted. Floyd accused Pac but Pac declined test to prove he was innocent. And if Floyd was scared to fight Pac all Pac had to do was accept the testing and call Floyds bluff. Unfortunately he came up with excuses on not to do that.

Posted December 22, 2013 4:47 pm 


Old Coot

Peej: You never informed me what rumors Floyd used to justify his blood-tests demands of Manny.

Posted December 22, 2013 4:42 pm 


Old Coot

Peej: Floyd cheating is much less laughable than him accusing Manny, because there is likely REAL evidence against Floyd. But NONE against Manny. Thus the huge lawsuit payoff!! LOL

Posted December 22, 2013 4:38 pm 


KILLA

Why is it a rumor when Mayweather is involved. But when they mention Paquiao in rumors, you make it seem as more than a rumor. It does not matter if those fighters are taking test all year long. They tested POSITIVE!! blame the doctor, flue medicine, the weather, the air. Mayweather Promotions is guilty by legal documentation and physical evidence.

Posted December 22, 2013 4:35 pm 


PEEJ

Floyd cheated. Thats laughable. I believe the ref said fight. Not Floyds fault he wanted to keep hugging and kissing during a fight. And didn’t Ortiz head but Floyd. That should of been an auto DQ. Funny how everybody says Floyd sucker punched him but totally disregarded how Ortiz intentionally head butted him. And those same people refuse to say how Pac sucker punched Marquez when Marquez was on the canvas.

Posted December 22, 2013 4:26 pm 


Old Coot

Havoc he also won’t fight anyone with a chin who can swarm him with his punches in bunches… Hatton, Cotto and Ortiz were exceptions, But with Hatton Floyd had the ref constantly interfering, Cotto got tired, and Floyd cheated with a sucker punch before Victor could get his groove!

Posted December 22, 2013 4:22 pm 


PEEJ

Actually no I didn’t say Rios was just a punching bag. I picked Rios to upset Pac. And like I said Rios has a bigger fan base than Bradley. Have you not seen his fights and how they sell out the venue?

Posted December 22, 2013 4:19 pm 


Havoc

Why Floyd won’t fight Maidana….not enough money to be made….it’s all about business baby….and haters are waiting to see if Floyd will lose. One of Floyd’s great ability is how to cherry pick an opponent. So boxing fans stop throwing your money if you are just there to witness Floyd lose cause it ain’t gonna happen. If you are a gambler then go all in on Floyd every time he fights for sure he is gonna win. Floyd is a businessman first before everything else.

Posted December 22, 2013 4:16 pm 


Old Coot

PEEJ: New Flash!… Bradley really lost to Manny, but just outclassed the one who KO’d Manny. Hell, Manny having the chance to avenge the robbery alone would garner 1 million… And I think even you said Rios was just a punching bag… Thus the low PPV. Get real dude.

Posted December 22, 2013 4:15 pm 


SREDMOND

Tell that to Arum who said he was reluctant to put Bradley in there again due to he and PAC doing 700k last time…That was before PAC got knocked Cold and did a sub 500k event… Next one could be 500-600k with Bradley

Posted December 22, 2013 4:13 pm 


PEEJ

Crack a million with Bradley, yet he couldn’t crack a million with Rios. News flash, Rios has a bigger fan base than Bradley.

Posted December 22, 2013 4:12 pm 


PEEJ

Floyd has fought in other states before. So you are wrong there. And there is no need to fight Pac in Cowboy stadium. Floyd is the one that will call the shots on this fight and if he wants to fight Floyd he will need to listen to Floyd and then sign if the time comes. Until then, Pac missed the train. They say when opportunity knocks you should answer the door. Apparently Pac didn’t

Posted December 22, 2013 4:11 pm 


Old Coot

easily

Posted December 22, 2013 4:11 pm 


Old Coot

Manny can esily crack 1 million with Bradley alone.

Posted December 22, 2013 4:11 pm 


Old Coot

I think Manny would win easier than ya’ll think!

Posted December 22, 2013 4:10 pm 


SREDMOND

Coot, it would be huge that said interest has wanes and PAC Man can’t crack 1 mill anymore that’s why they wanna wheel out Marquez on a gurney to box at age 41 coming off a loss… Shameful

Posted December 22, 2013 4:10 pm 


Amoe

Quit playing y’all don’t fool yourselves. I think manny has the style to hurt mayweather but i just can’t see manny winning. I think Garcia,matthysee,Guerrero, and maidana beats PAC. But they can’t beat Floyd.

Posted December 22, 2013 4:09 pm 


Old Coot

It’s Maidana, not Floyd, = no FLOYD-like drama… So easy fight for GBP and TR to make with Pac.

Posted December 22, 2013 4:08 pm 


SREDMOND

Mayweather did a record 20 mill gate at the MGM fighting for short money in arenas is for commoners…Texas has brokered a bunch of dicey decisions as of late no ones interested besides where is Manny boxing next? Texas or Vegas?

Posted December 22, 2013 4:08 pm 


Old Coot

SREDMOND: Manny VS Floyd would bury Floyd’s last 3 PPV draws!! And you and FLOYDANA both know it… But keep pretending. You only prove Floyd is more scared than ever.

Posted December 22, 2013 4:05 pm 


SREDMOND

Old Coot, you know nothing Maidanas a GBP fighter Richard Schaefer is not staging a bout with PAC LMAO!!! Maidana will face FMJ 100 years before he fights Manny… PAC and Provodnikov could not sell out a Living room despite the action that’s a movie that goes straight to video…

Posted December 22, 2013 4:04 pm 


Old Coot

PEEJ: Thus the reason he will never cash in with Manny in Cowboys’ Stadium… Zylocaine is illegal there, as it should be everywhere.

Posted December 22, 2013 4:03 pm 


SREDMOND

The public has also moved on they wanted the Canelo bout and made it the richest EVER… Pac??? 475k fans payed to see that a few more than Marquez and Bradley who don’t draw well…

Posted December 22, 2013 4:01 pm 


Old Coot

Manny can fight Bradley, Provodnikov, or Maidana to pay his taxes and then some… Floyd is running as usual.

Posted December 22, 2013 4:01 pm 


PEEJ

Yeah ok. And I believe what Floyd uses on his hands if he still uses it is not illegal in Nevada meaning anybody can use it. So there is no issue there.

Posted December 22, 2013 4:00 pm 


Old Coot

Peej: Why didn’t Floyd just provide evidence instead of paying Manny to drop the lawsuit? Because his assertions were voices in his biscuit! That’s why!

Posted December 22, 2013 4:00 pm 


SREDMOND

Old Coot, the bout is DEAD GBP and TR are not working together and thus ends the story and Mannys chances of correcting his tax issues….

Posted December 22, 2013 3:59 pm 


Old Coot

Peej: What rumors did Floyd have again? But he still made BS demands… Right or wrong?

Posted December 22, 2013 3:58 pm 


Old Coot

Floyd using Zylocaine, Lewinskigate, and Watergate started out as rumors in articles too… Until the facts came out proving them true. And it sounds like they will on Floyd, LONG before they ever would on Manny!

Posted December 22, 2013 3:57 pm 


PEEJ

What are you talking about? You saying Floyd came up dirty, that is a rumor, just like it says in the article. Rumor has it.

Posted December 22, 2013 3:55 pm 


PEEJ

Tell Pac to dump Arum or at least tell him to stay out of this promotion, take the random test, accept his purse that will probably be around 70/30 split now and I am sure the fight can be made.

Posted December 22, 2013 3:54 pm 


Old Coot

Peej: What rumors did Floyd have?

Posted December 22, 2013 3:54 pm 


Old Coot

SREDMOND: And ya’ll gotta quit pretending the fight is dead too… You can’t protect Floyd and his overrated zero from a Pac-man beatdown… So don’t try.

Posted December 22, 2013 3:54 pm 


PEEJ

A real article saying that it was a rumor. Dude do you even know what a rumor is? And yeah I am considering Pac did the same thing when Marquez KOd him.

Posted December 22, 2013 3:53 pm 


Old Coot

SREDMOND: Just tell Floydina to cut the crap and prove “I’m dreaming” then!

Posted December 22, 2013 3:51 pm 


SREDMOND

Old Coot, you speak in dream sequences FMJ is the Top EVERYTHING in boxing Mannys GREAT but his star was dimmed by a tough Mexican named Marquez…
I know you wish it was the good old days when PAC was the toast of the town but it’s not, he just fought a rehab bout with BAD PPV numbers… UGGGHHHH

Posted December 22, 2013 3:50 pm 


Old Coot

PEEJ: So… You’re actually trying to pretend that Floyd using the voices of fear in his head to accuse Manny of cheating, is more legit than a REAL article about Floyd the cheater? LOL!!

Posted December 22, 2013 3:50 pm 


SREDMOND

Pacs a wonderful fighter, but we know his next loss is coming… It’s part of the reason guys are soooooo afraid of time when he is the younger boxer..We know Manny can be beaten and knocked out whereas Floyd has maintained that aura of invincibility over the years… These discussions are NOT about the question “can Manny be beat” we KNOW he can.. It’s about guys hoping the aging Mayweather final laces up once too often… PAC does not even have the benefit of KO power at 147, he can keep guys honest but the “Pop” is not there!!! The only KO that Manny was a part of at 147 was when Marquez brained him..,Beating Rios did not erase that image in peoples minds!

Posted December 22, 2013 3:47 pm 


Old Coot

SREDMOND: Until Floyd ducked Manny and kept fighting lead foots to keep his zero, Manny was actually BIGGER than Floyd, which really got under that girl’s skin… And is part of the reason he hatched this PED scheme out of spite.

Posted December 22, 2013 3:47 pm 


PEEJ

Pac never took the random testing while Ariza was in his corner.

Posted December 22, 2013 3:42 pm 


SREDMOND

Guys need to accepts that Floyd Mayweathers dominance and standing in the sport cannot be credibly challenged by the introduction of Manny Pacquiao or any other boxer at this point! His legacy is so ROCK solid that modern opponents will bet him little credit despite him being a boxer on the WRONG side of 35….The Manny Pacquiao brand has been sullied by this fighter getting KOED by a 40 year old Marquez and struggling badly in the 3rd fight…. The approves list of PAC Man opponents would NOT cut it against Mayweather as opponents, 41 year old Marquez coming off a loss, Ruslan Provodnikov a former PAC Man sparring partner? Rios a slow face first brawler coming up in weight off a loss?? I would live for PAC and FMJ to meet but we know that when PAC dropped a UD to Mayweather guys would have excuses by the boatload we have seen it before we will see it again… Meanwhile EVERY active boxer is gonna tell you FMJ is the best in the business

Posted December 22, 2013 3:42 pm 


Old Coot

KILLA: GIT EM!!

Posted December 22, 2013 3:35 pm 


Old Coot

Tachyon: That is right, everyone knows it was Morales who demanded the softer gloves because he was the bigger star at the time, and someone also conveniently lost Manny’s blood-work then demanded he take more tests before the fight… Manny discussed both on PI TV after the loss. Floyd found out about the blood thing and used it to scare Manny off. I will see if I can find the link to that interview.

Posted December 22, 2013 3:35 pm 


KILLA

Tychyon- look at the facts not the hype. Mayweather hypes himself to be clean. TMT hypes its company to be clean. Now, look at the facts, J’ Leon came back dirty for PEDS, Randall came back dirty for Dietary supplements. These are Mayweather promotion fighters. Mayweather has tested positive 3 times in his sample “A”, but paid off Vegas $$$, not to test the sample “B”. Mayweather lost in court by never providing the documents or evidence to show Paquiao has ever used PEDS or any Dietary supplements. Now bro, show boxing fans where are you getting your information from, so we can investigate for ourselves and not just from hype..

Posted December 22, 2013 3:34 pm 


Old Coot

Tachyon: Funny how Manny has never failed a test nor even had a real rumor of PED antics, but Floyd is the only one who got 2 to 3 PED test waivers, and hid them from NSAC, and ALSO paid Manny big to drop the defamation lawsuit… YOU are and peej are the blind ones.

Posted December 22, 2013 3:23 pm 


Tachyon

Old Coot its fine your are blinded and refuse to look at facts with honest eyes. Data shows most of the funny business was in the Pac camp wow May camp asked for random test simple request if Pac wanted the fight he could have said yes signed the contract been done with it. Data does not lie.

Posted December 22, 2013 3:20 pm 


Old Coot

Peej: So suddenly after being fired and recently re-hired, Ariza would get careless?

Posted December 22, 2013 3:19 pm 


Old Coot

Prior to their 2nd bout, they suspect Morales paid someone to lose Manny’s bloodwork and force him to take more tests like 2 days before the loss, which made Manny think it had weakened him, causing the loss… Floyd knew this and used Manny’s unreasonable fears about that, to kill the fight. PERIOD!!

Posted December 22, 2013 3:19 pm 


PEEJ

Old Coot drop it, obviously Ariza is shady and could of been doing something with Pac and that is the reason he didn’t want to take the test. Very shameful. Gets fired by Pac and then Arizas next boxer is fighting Pac who now demands random testing, all of a sudden and Rios comes back dirty. Now we know why Pac didn’t want to take the random testing when Ariza was there.

Posted December 22, 2013 3:18 pm 


PEEJ

Oh yeah and like I told you before, Ariza has had his newest fighter in Rios get caught for a banned substance, funny how he demands the random testing on an opponent who just so happens to have his old strength and conditioning coach removed after 1 fight and now Ariza is being looked at for possibly tampering with Maidana in there fight. So I would say Floyd had plenty of reason to ask for testing.

Posted December 22, 2013 3:16 pm 


Old Coot

Tachyon: Drop it dude.. Floyd is the only PED cheat of the two… Floyd found out what had happened with bloodtests prior to Manny’s Morales loss, and decided to use it against Manny to kill the fight.

Posted December 22, 2013 3:16 pm 


PEEJ

There are no lucky punches. He ment to throw the punch and he ment to land the punch and down went Pac. Yes most people feel like he did beat Bradley but also most people feel that he lost against Marquez in the 3rd fight. So either way Pac is losing fights.

Posted December 22, 2013 3:14 pm 


Old Coot

PEEJ: I told you before… Marquez hired a convicted cheater… So Manny had REAL reason to suspect JMM… Whereas FLOYD had ZERO reason to demand that of Manny!

Posted December 22, 2013 3:13 pm 


PEEJ

Who cares about Pacs demands based on his own rumors after getting KOd by Marquez? Sounds like Pac and Company don’t want the fight. If he would of only just said yes like Floyd did to his ridiculous demands.

Posted December 22, 2013 3:11 pm 


Old Coot

Tachyon… Are you serious?… When you the self-proclaimed GOAT, and you don’t want fans to know you’re scared… OF COURSE YOU DO!!

Posted December 22, 2013 3:10 pm 


Tachyon

Old Coot not true and you know that you don’t spend time and effort trying to negotiate a fight you don’t want to fight. If Floyd was not afraid to fight ODH who weighed 160 on fight night and Floyd only weighing 148, Coto 159 Floyd weighing 148, Canelo weighing 165 Floyd weighing 150 I’m sure he not afraid of Pac be honest.

Posted December 22, 2013 3:09 pm 


Old Coot

Funny how in their 1st so-called negotiations, Floyd only SUDDENLY demanded blood testing when they were about to sign… He planned it from the start.

Posted December 22, 2013 3:07 pm 


Old Coot

Bottom line, Floyd never planned to fight Manny and still doesn’t!!

Posted December 22, 2013 3:04 pm 


Tachyon

Old Coot big fight lots of Money back the 50/50 made tons of sense. Pac should have agreed to the test. Totally different environment and Pac want get what he is demanding. Pac stock is at all time low, loss to Bradley, Coma like KO by JMM, and tough IRS situation. Pac has has zero negotiation leverage and I don’t he and Arum get along anymore.

In January, Mayweather (43-0, 26 KOs), a five-division champion, and Pacquiao (54-4-2, 38 KOs) spoke on the phone about a possible deal during which Mayweather offered to pay him a flat fee of $40 million for a proposed fight but would not allow him to share in the revenue. In the original negotiation, Mayweather agreed to a 50-50 split.

Posted December 22, 2013 3:03 pm 


Old Coot

Peej: So who cares about Floyd’s demands, based upon NO RUMORS, only the fear induced voices in Floyd’s head?!

Posted December 22, 2013 3:03 pm 


PEEJ

So I guess you where there in the middle of the negotiations. You know they where right about to sign and then Floyd decided to ask for the testing. Didn’t realize you where privy to be in the same room or on the same phone during these negotiations. lol

Posted December 22, 2013 3:02 pm 


POOR SREDMOND

Do you actually think you’re funny? I’m the 10 year old but you’re the one writing weak ass juvenile lame comebacks? bwahaha

Can you get anything right all? So far you’ve failed at every you’ve tried. Switching between alts. Trying to write good comebacks. Saying we were doing something we weren’t. And now you’re coming with the double lame ancient old warm milk and get yourself to bed comeback? Bwahahaha

Posted December 22, 2013 3:02 pm 


PEEJ

So. He is writing about a rumor. Who cares. No way he says it is a rumor? Because there is no proof. Just like there is no proof that one of Pacs team asked what would happen if Pac came up dirty on one of those random test Floyd was asking for. Who would be notified. But again it is just a rumor. hmmmmmmm

Posted December 22, 2013 3:01 pm 


Old Coot

In their 1st so-called negotiations, funny how Floyd only threw in blood testing when they were about to sign… He planned it from the start.

Posted December 22, 2013 3:01 pm 


Old Coot

Peej: Funny how NO credible writer has ever written about so much as a rumor of Manny and PEDs… But one has about Floyd… HMMM!!

Posted December 22, 2013 2:58 pm 


Old Coot

Peej: Floyd never even had a rumor… But it didn’t stop him.

Posted December 22, 2013 2:57 pm 


PEEJ

Funny but Floyd agreed to fighting Cotto in the first round of talks. Right after he left Arum. Hmmmm.

Posted December 22, 2013 2:57 pm 


PEEJ

Old Coot obviously you didn’t read the article where it said it was a rumor. And like I said before, it is ok for Pac to accuse Marquez of PED use but it is not ok for Floyd to have the same accusation for basically the same reason? Sorry but all Pac had to do was take the test. If he was clean he had nothing to worry about. Now why didn’t he take the test?

Posted December 22, 2013 2:56 pm 


Old Coot

Tachyon: And I always thought that given Floyd’s negotiating track-record that it was strange how quickly he pretended to agree…

Posted December 22, 2013 2:53 pm 


Tachyon

POOR SREDMOND are you 10? does your mom know your posting on this site? Drink some warm milk and get your little punk ass to bed. If your nice Santa might bring your a present.

Posted December 22, 2013 2:52 pm 


Old Coot

Tachyon: Floyd has NEVER agreed to anything in the first round of talks… And no, it was Manny who agreed to most of FLOYDS demands, accept glove size.

Posted December 22, 2013 2:52 pm 


Old Coot

Peej: Floyd got scared after Manny beatdown Cotto… He NEVER had basis for any drug test demands… Period!!… But now thanks to Steven Hauser’s diligence on how Floyd likely covered up 3 failed blood tests before the Ortiz and Cotto fight, Manny would have grounds.

Posted December 22, 2013 2:51 pm 


Tachyon

Old Coot your data is wrong first fight negotiations all reporters thought Floyd would balk a the amount of money. He did not agreed to 50/50 split, agreed to ring size, agreed to type of gloves only thing he asked was for the random blood test which he has always asked for was not something new. As I posted earlier Pac balked at the random part not the blood test itself.

Posted December 22, 2013 2:51 pm 


POOR SREDMOND

Nice comeback. Not.

We weren’t debating boxing you idiot. I just exposed you and you’re were so shook you couldn’t hide it, which is why you came back with that feeble weak ass lameness. bwahahaha

Posted December 22, 2013 2:48 pm 


Tachyon

Old Coot something is still fishy regardless of. Pac is at the top of his game and can make the most money on one fight only request was for random blood test. Pac said he does not mind taking the blood test if he knows the dates in advance but if the test are truly random and he does not know the dates he want do it and made up all kind of excuses. Now Old Coot I know you support Manny but be realistic you know that situation is fishy. Now we wait 3 years later and all of a sudden Pac wants to do random test he does not need to know the dates in advance anymore hmm Arz guy has been kicked out of Pacs camp as well. You don’t need to be Sherlock Holmes Black Adder could figure this one out.

Posted December 22, 2013 2:47 pm 


PEEJ

Demands, take the random drug test, sounds like 1 demand. But there where many excuses on why not to take his one demand.

Posted December 22, 2013 2:44 pm 


PEEJ

Old Coot you are wrong, the purse split was 50/50 during the first negotiations. Manny asked for everything and Floyd agreed. Only thing Floyd asked for was the random testing which ummmmmm he denied to do. Floyd doesn’t ask for bigger gloves. He may use a glove that is more padded in the front to protect his hands but what does that have to do with his opponents gloves? And after the first round of negotiations yes Floyd did ask for more money because he was selling more PPVs than Pac so in that case he will take a bigger piece of the pie. That is how it works. And there is no proof of Floyd cheating, only a rumor.

Posted December 22, 2013 2:43 pm 


Old Coot

Proud African: Boy do you got that bass ackwards… Manny has FLOYD already panicked YEARS ago, Floyd’s hilarious demands based on his wild imagination proves it.

Posted December 22, 2013 2:42 pm 


Proud African

Floyd Mayweather, the best boxer of all time. He has everyone panicking.

Posted December 22, 2013 2:39 pm 


Old Coot

PEEJ: Are you kidding? Dude, Floyd ALWAYS demands those things and more of nearly every opponent! I mean seriously, in addition to unwarranted drug testing demands over his assertions alone, (which is REALLY hypocritical because we now know that FLOYD himself is likely the real cheater in more ways than one, not Manny) Floyd also, ALWAYS demands huge gloves, a huge so-called “boxers ring”, and although Manny was arguably more popular when they first negotiated… Floyd and his Jupiter sized ego STILL demanded the bigger purse split and PPV royalies… Hell, Floyd even tries to hand-pick the referees… And we all know who is his favorite… Joe Cortez!

Posted December 22, 2013 2:38 pm 


Tachyon

POOR SREDMOND I don’t feel like debating with a crack Ho who has no clue about boxing.

Posted December 22, 2013 2:36 pm 


PEEJ

Didn’t Pac accuse Marquez of being on something because he knocked him out. That is no reason either. But it is ok for Pac to accuse people just not ok for anybody else to do it.

Posted December 22, 2013 2:33 pm 


Big Ham

Sredmond more hated than boxtradamas? Boxtra i think you are slipping man. Raise your game. Now onto the subject matter. If enough people clamor and create contraversy that Madaina is the guy to beat floyd, then maybe the fight will happen. I hope the fight happens because i think Madaina will make for an exciting fight. I would not wager on him winning. To me it is more about a deserving fighter getting his shot and a champion fighting a deserving candidate. There does not always have to be a close “pick em” fight matchup. If your the champ and your that good, fight whoever is the best candidate and get credit for it. The Khan fight is a con. It should not be made. Khan is so beatable fight now he waiting to not fight anyone else because he will look bad and hurt his chances. He is just trying to go off the little name recognition that he has left to try to get the fight.

Posted December 22, 2013 2:29 pm 


POOR SREDMOND

Captain Save a ho Tachyon to the rescue. I wonder whose alt you are. bwahahaha

Try and make it a little less obvious next time, OK.

Posted December 22, 2013 2:28 pm 


Old Coot

Tachyon: Floyd was the one wrong to defame Manny FOR NO REAL REASON!!… So again, forget the past… You can’t change it.. We can only make the fight in the future… Besides, based on those false assertions and boring fights alone, he owes Manny and the fans who made him FILTHY rich a real fight.

Posted December 22, 2013 2:26 pm 


Tachyon

POOR SREDMOND are you like an old girl friend of sredmond? Did he dump you on side the road? You defiantly need a shrink damn I thought Bears was a nut case.

Posted December 22, 2013 2:25 pm 


POOR SREDMOND

What an idiot. He even does what KJ said he does in his rebuttal. bwahahaha

”SREDMOND has four main modes of defence when caught out, which the more observant of you will know is very often.

1. He creates a straw man argument and then argues against what he’s twisted your words to mean.

He also likes to cherry pick parts of your post and completely ignore the relevant parts that matter.”

KJ

SREDMOND’s favorites Floyd Mayweather, Bernard Hopkins, and Adrian Broner are all racist.

SREDMOND spends all of the inordinate amount of time he spends on here hating on and trying to tear down white fighters and tonguing the cracks of black ones.

SREDMOND has been caught out posting horribly offensive black supremacist racist BS under his alias account . one of many . Supreme Court.

SREDMOND is a compulsive lying hypocrite who contorts people’s words, dodges and refuses to answer difficult questions, and moulds his opinions and arguments to fit around his black supremacist agenda.

SREDMOND is very fond of calling out white posters if the say anything remotely racist, but he never does the same to black posters when they say things which are infinitely more racist, offensive and extreme.

SREDMOND likes to whine and complain when fighters who don’t share his skin complexion commit fouls, but he says nothing when the black ones he worship who are some of the dirtiest fighters in the sport do so every time they lace their gloves up.

SREDMOND has four main modes of defence when caught out, which the more observant of you will know is very often.

1. He creates a straw man argument and then argues against what he’s twisted your words to mean.

2. He lies. He lies. And he lies some more.

3. He goes AWOL for a few days and posts under one of his aliases. He also likes to cherry pick parts of your post and completely ignore the relevant parts that matter.

4. He claims he’s won the argument even though it’s crystal clear to all he hasn’t.

SREDMOND is the most disliked poster on Eastside Boxing by a long stretch and the reason for that is, because he’s a such a lying racist hypocrite who moulds everything he says to fit with his racist agenda.

There’s no question SREDMOND suffers from a legitimate psychological disorder. Look at the amount of time he spends on here if you doubt this. He’s full of bitterness, rage and resentment that his life hasn’t panned out the way that he hoped it would and starting arguments with strangers on the internet is the only outlet he has to vent that rage and self-loathing.

There’s absolutely no way someone who spends as much time as he does on here leads a normal life. He obviously doesn’t have a girlfriend or any kind of rewarding social life, which to be honest I think is rather sad.

He lives his life vicariously through black fighters like Floyd Mayweather, Adrian Broner, Andre Ward and co and he rides on the coattails of their achievements because he has achieved nothing in his own life. This is the reason why he gets so enraged and defensive when you criticize them. Any kind of attack on them is an attack on his self-esteem.

It hasn’t even dawned on him what the sting in the tail is to when you ride on the coattails of the achievements of others. He still needs someone to explain to him what it is.

The problem with riding on the coattails of the achievements of others is, you don’t actually get anywhere. You might think your making progress but all you’re actually doing is running to stand still. And you’re always going to remain firmly rooted to the same spot for as long as you allow the delusion to grip you within its vice. When is the penny finally going to drop SREDMOND?

You won’t see a single poster on Eastside Boxing who’s accused of being racist more frequently or by more other posters than him and there’s a damned good reason why that is.

SREDMOND is a joke of a poster and no one should take anything that comes out of his poisonous mouth seriously.

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Posted December 22, 2013 2:22 pm 


PEEJ

Lets see he demanded the ring size, glove size, the money was split 50/50 oh and 10 million per pound over weight. 10 million per pound is not excessive? All Floyd did was ask for random testing. The same testing that he just asked Rios to do. Why did he ask Rios to do the extra testing since it was a bid deal for him to do random testing?

Posted December 22, 2013 2:22 pm 


Tachyon

Old Coot Cotto had not made 147 in like 6 years Manny had him meet that weight in order to fight same thing he did for ODH. Hell Old Coot you could have beat a weight drained Cotto on that night. The proof that Pac fears Cotto is when Arum tried to setup rematch with Cotto Pac would not fight Cotto at 154 he flat out said he would not. May fought Cotto at 154 not weight drained but 100% healthy Cotto and beat him. Pac did not and does not have the balls to do that. Fear Pac is the one who has fears a healthy Cotto.

Posted December 22, 2013 2:20 pm 


Hidalgo

Seems like almost every article on ESB lately has been about Mayweather, Pacquiao, Broner, Arum and GBP. I really wish all the contributing writers who submit articles to ESB–especially the ones who are at the pro level and involved very much in boxing–would cover more than just the fighters and issues that we already know too much about.What we’re not seeing on ESB is a lot of the other boxing news that’s available. For instance:

Latest update on Magomed Abdusalamov says he’s out of his coma, is showing recognition of family and friends with his eyes, and Doc says he won’t be fighting again (obviously) because he will have brain deficiencies even after he recovers from surgery.

Chris John, who has a record of 48-1-3 has retired from boxing after his loss to Vetyeka on Dec. 6. John had defended his featherweight world title 18 times over a period of nine years. He was hoping to retire undefeated with a 50-win record but decided he’d done enough after he got beaten by Vetyeka. John is hugely popular and famous in Indonesia and continues to be so even after his loss.

Posted December 22, 2013 2:17 pm 


The Greatest

There’s always going to be someone who will beat Floyd ‘in theory’ – Oscar, hatton, cotto, Ortiz, Guerrero, blah blah were supposed to bring the ‘educated pressure’. Canelo was said to be faster, bigger, hungrier, more powerful and more youthful but still got outboxed. Floyd could knock out GGG, pacman and maidens in the same night and the delusional haters would move onto the likes of Thurman and Garcia. Pacquiao is just as much to blame for the fight not happening, if not more so – the first man in history to turn down 40million dollars due to a ‘fear of needles’. Pac is over the hill and anyone who fails to see that needs their eyes checked. Marquez one-bombed him and even bloody Rios was competitive and found him easy to hit. As for maidana, he got outboxed by Alexander and a mere con so it’s pretty obvious what one of the greatest boxers of all time would do to him.

Posted December 22, 2013 2:15 pm 


SREDMOND

A guy showing that he has seen a TON of Shrinks on a boxing message board is NOT very impressive to me and does nothing to defuse my argument or stances… KJ letting us in on his mental health history might win him an award for honesty but its not scoring points as it pertains to his stances on fighters… ONLY showing me the POTENT effect I have had on this poster driving him to seek mental health professionals and showing us in detail the work he is attempting on himself…LOL

Posted December 22, 2013 2:15 pm 


Tachyon

Old Coot I applaud you for being a progressive man but you just typed the hardest thing for most people to do “Forget the Past” if what you typed was so easy a lot of Wars would never have happened.

Posted December 22, 2013 2:15 pm 


Old Coot

PEEJ: Manny killed the fight? Manny never demanded anything special… FLOYD DID!! Now had Floyd not pissed himself after Manny beatdown Cotto and let his overactive imagination run wild about a guy who never even had a rumor of PED use, then we’d likely be talking about a rubber match by now. Or at least a re-match.

Posted December 22, 2013 2:12 pm 


Tachyon

POOR SREDMOND KJ post does not make sense. Seems he would have recommend those psychiatrists to PAC he is the one who needs help to over come fear of random blood test, PAC was depressed mentally and physical in to the ring mat by the JMM’s punch. Also KJ should have recommend an account and Tax lawyer along with the psychiatrists he will need all three to recoup from the IRS butt whupping and Mayweather stomping if they meat in the ring.

Posted December 22, 2013 2:12 pm 


SREDMOND

Old Coot, again this is laborious but OK…. Let Pac Man leave his promotional company and I will personally call out Mayweather for not facing him.. That said as long as Pacquiao is a Top Rank fighter this cannot and will not happen… This is NO different than us seeing Rios facing Broner or Thurman its not gonna happen because the promotional entities are different

Posted December 22, 2013 2:11 pm 


PEEJ

Pac is coming off a decision loss and a KO loss and he just beat a Jr Welter who is coming off a loss too. Who cares what other writers are writing about. And it is constantly the same Pac fan writers that are writing about it. The time has passed. Pac dodged the fight. Floyd is still on top. If tells Arum to stay out of it he could have the fight. But he liked being jerked around by Arum. He likes being in debt to the Arum and the IRS

Posted December 22, 2013 2:10 pm 


Old Coot

Tachyon: So what… Let’s see it next year… Forget the past… Floyd already paid Manny for defaming him… Let’s see Floyd prove he’s better.

Posted December 22, 2013 2:07 pm 


Tachyon

Old Coot I agree great fight but you all keep missing the main problem May tried to make the fight twice Pac and Arum screwed it up. One whined about random test other was trying to delay everything so he could build a stadium to host the fight and gank the live gate proceeds. May is pissed at both of them and unless they accommodate Mays demands there want be a fight simple as that. Example I went to Bellevue BMW to get my M5 serviced they ignored me for 30 minutes when 3 people of none color came in the sales person went over to help them I walked over interrupted and told him I have been standing here for 30 minutes and you did not approach me at all he apologized said he did not see me I said right only minority in your show room and you did not see me. Pissed me off I would take a car from them if they gave it to me for free. Mayweather is in the same boat with Arum and Pac he is pissed at how he was treated and Pac will have to do some serious boot licking before May will agree to anything and Pac will only get a 70/30 split if that.

Posted December 22, 2013 2:04 pm 


Old Coot

PEEJ: Are you serious?… Dude… Look at like every 3rd article on any reputable boxing site… You certainly are not seeing anything about Mayweather VS Khan… Only PAC-MAN VS MONEY!!

Posted December 22, 2013 2:03 pm 


Thrashnephilim

Lol!! Ok Redmond. Well I’m gonna go to my real life now. Thanks. I’m sure you feel you imparted some sort of knowledge on me no matter how misguided you are. So thanks! And whenever I want to waste my life reasoning with a fool, I’ll look you up again.

Posted December 22, 2013 2:02 pm 


Old Coot

Sorry SREDMOND, I meant that for Thurmal Underwear… Copied and pasted the wrong name.

Posted December 22, 2013 2:01 pm 


PEEJ

Pac vs Floyd is not the biggest event anymore. That time has passed. This fight does less than Floyd vs Canelo. Pac and Company came up with to many excuses and reasons on how to dodge the fight.

Posted December 22, 2013 1:59 pm 


Old Coot

SREDMOND: Fine… Let Floyd prove it. That is all. Bet he won’t. Even for a Check Casher.

Posted December 22, 2013 1:59 pm 


Thurmal Underwear

SREDMOND

Old Coot, means well he has no issue selling the most ridiculous ideas… Mayweather has 100x Broners experience at the World Championship level and he did not get there by letting guys paint him with telegraphed punches OVER and OVER absent adjustment… Manny Pacquiao is a GREAT fighter that can be fooled and has a know defect when it comes to Guys who can box and counterpunch… Floyd could fight Marquez and Manny on the same night and UD them both… Pac Man is given credit for guys that Floyd would be attacked for even fighting ie a 41 year old Marquez or Brandon Rios coming up in weight off of a loss…

^let me know. floyd is a master boxer you fools.

Posted December 22, 2013 1:58 pm 


Old Coot

Tachyon: When you say “Pac has no defense” You clearly demonstrate you not paying attention. Pacquiao has WAY better defense than Maidana… He just doesn’t care about getting hit as much as Floyd. Not to mention Pac has two fisted attack and an agility that Maidana can only dream of.

Posted December 22, 2013 1:58 pm 


SREDMOND

Old Coot, means well he has no issue selling the most ridiculous ideas… Mayweather has 100x Broners experience at the World Championship level and he did not get there by letting guys paint him with telegraphed punches OVER and OVER absent adjustment… Manny Pacquiao is a GREAT fighter that can be fooled and has a know defect when it comes to Guys who can box and counterpunch… Floyd could fight Marquez and Manny on the same night and UD them both… Pac Man is given credit for guys that Floyd would be attacked for even fighting ie a 41 year old Marquez or Brandon Rios coming up in weight off of a loss…

Posted December 22, 2013 1:54 pm 


Old Coot

Tachyon: What ya’ll got against Floyd actually proving his fans like you right? That’s my question. If he could fight Guerrero or Ortiz, certainly the “TMT check-casher” can step up for the biggest, most lucrative event in pugilistic history.

Posted December 22, 2013 1:53 pm 


SREDMOND

Thrash, pack it in man its been a BAD day for you AGAIN you cannot attack arguments so you are all over the place playing X files… You have been dismissed and failed to hold your own… I am embarrassed for you to be frank and now must categorize you with the likes of Bears who I consider Cro-Magnon

Posted December 22, 2013 1:50 pm 


Tachyon

Old Coot your right except Pac would be in Broners shoes being knocked down and totally out boxed by Mayweather. Pac has no defense his best weapon is offense and we know slick boxers give him hell. Mayweather is the best and his accuracy is outstanding.

Posted December 22, 2013 1:49 pm 


PEEJ

Stop Old Coot. Please. Comparing Broner to Floyd is ridiculous. No way did that fight reflect what Pac vs Floyd would be in any shape form or fashion. That is dumb talk right there.

Posted December 22, 2013 1:49 pm 


Old Coot

Um tellin’ ya… Broner VS Maidana showed sorta what Mayweather VS Pacquiao would be like… Only Not as spirited because Mayweather has better defense, than Broner, and Pacquiao is not as wild and is more methodical than Maidana! But the result would likely be the same.

Posted December 22, 2013 1:45 pm 


Thrashnephilim

Redmond, if you were within 25 IQ points of myself I’d be both amazed and afraid.;)

Posted December 22, 2013 1:45 pm 


Old Coot

Bottom line… Floyd knows even he don’t have the speed to keep Manny away from him like the way he did lead foots such as Alvarez or Guerrero. Floyd also knows he doesn’t have punching power nor the punch output to gain enough of Manny’s respect to keep Manny off him either.

Posted December 22, 2013 1:43 pm 


Tachyon

Old Coot and others Pac fought a weight drained Cotto as you see Pac would not rematch Cotto at 154. May fought Cotto at 154 on even ground and won.Pac is a good fighter but he is not as skilled as Mayweather or as accurate a puncher. I don’t see Pac beating Mayweather the fight will turn out like Pac vs Morales 1 easy points win for May.

Posted December 22, 2013 1:42 pm 


Thrashnephilim

Redmond, its funny you attempt.that here when people know.you so well and what YOU are about. LOL

Posted December 22, 2013 1:39 pm 


SREDMOND

Oscar De La Hoya, was a 6 weight and something like 10x World Champion who gave a terrific technical effort till Floyd took over and defeated him… Guys have been whining about ODH’s stamina since the Trinidad bout so whats new? Oscar had the benefit of FMJ coming up in weight and facing him at 154 and he still had to book the loss…

Posted December 22, 2013 1:39 pm 


Thrashnephilim

Peej, its not my job to go on a witch hunt for your so called proof. If you don’t have it, I think that’s game set and match. As I said, you have proven to me there are no comments. And you know yourself. Just don’t say you discredit me when you have done no such thing.

Posted December 22, 2013 1:37 pm 


SREDMOND

Old Coot, Manny NEVER dominated Marquez in his life that’s why he had to fight the man 4x trying to prove his point or as Roach said it “shut JMM up” how was Marquez dominated last fight he had 2, 10-8 rounds in a 6 round fight culminating with one of the most text book KO’s of an Elite fighter we have seen in the sport… GTFOH we know Manny can lose and we know he can be outboxed we ONLY know this in theory about Mayweather and the notion that Pac Man is uniquely qualified to prove this “theory” is a pipe dream while Manny rehabs his career against guys coming off losses

Posted December 22, 2013 1:37 pm 


Old Coot

DLP: Oscar is mainly a one handed fighter who was doing great until he got tired about round 7, then stopped jabbing… That’s when Floyd asserted himself… Manny is a two-gunned onslaughter, who WON’T let up and won’t tire. Cotto showed close to what Manny will do to Floyd, only much worse!! Floyd knows.

Posted December 22, 2013 1:36 pm 


PEEJ

Yeah well Bradley was able to box ok against Pac and Morales did a great job up until he decided to trade with Pac in the last round. So that proves to me Floyd will toy with Pac because he is 10 times better than all 3 of those fighters.

Posted December 22, 2013 1:34 pm 


SREDMOND

Thrash if VERY frustrated and trying to start conflict based on Race because he is NOT confident in his arguments which makes sense because ALOT of them simply are NOT very insightful or intelligent to be honest… Bears is the KING of this he will sit on here discussing the Color of boxing and pointing fingers because he is a LOW intellect who has a LOW bar for frustration…I cannot be shamed, baited or cajoled into changing my stances on a given fighter unless something happens in a boxers win/loss record to change my mind… The opinions of my fellow posters are SUBORDINATE to my own (To me) just as I would assume mine are not as important to them… Guys like Thrash show me that MY opinion has SERIOUS power over them and they want my compliance as their appetite for debate wanes when I expose them… To Thrash I say, don’t get pissed, work on improving your critical thinking skills and work to know what you are talking about as it pertains to fighters and you will not be forced to stoop to the LOWEST common denominator… Again just trying to be kind to those less fortunate than me…

Posted December 22, 2013 1:34 pm 


Thrashnephilim

Redmond, I see nothing about you but BS, continuously. Nothing less, nothing more.

Posted December 22, 2013 1:33 pm 


PEEJ

Here is the headline off an article, how easy it is to google.
Despite Karo Murat obtaining a visa, the IBF will not change its rankings. Therefore, Sergey Kovalev is still Bernard Hopkins’ mandatory challenger.

Posted December 22, 2013 1:33 pm 


Old Coot

PEEJ: And before you even say it… Marquez only gives Manny fits, because Manny is willing to engage close due to his finishing style… And because Juan has power, great timing, and the chin and heart to take three shots, in order to give one. Now Manny was dominating Marquez because much like Floyd and Bradley, he was avoiding him… Freddie and Manny just got unnecessarily greedy and paid the price.

Posted December 22, 2013 1:32 pm 


Thrashnephilim

,Chezb, its ok guy, I don’t need a background on ppl. Seeing what they say says enough, but thanks.

Posted December 22, 2013 1:31 pm 


DLP

Oscar tried to swarm Mayweather when they met, but it didn’t work. Maidana would be easy work because he fights flat footed and doesn’t move much. A lot of fans would like to see Pacquiao fight Mayweather, but as long as he’s with Arum it’s not going to happen. Has Mayweather faced any of Arum’s fighters since leaving Top Rank, No. So believe that’s the reason this fight hasn’t happened, Mayweather has never been scared of Pacquiao.

Posted December 22, 2013 1:29 pm 


SREDMOND

Thrash, guys have tried to play the Racial angle with me 100 times and it NEVER works because as you can see I have sound rationales for who I think will win a fight or what I think about boxers… If they conflict with another’s guys choices we can debate on the merits of the fighter or lack thereof… I don’t have a “quota system and I don’t expect anyone else to either… You favor who you favor in a bout and if you are right it is what it is and if you are wrong Oh Well….

Posted December 22, 2013 1:27 pm 


Thrashnephilim

Besides, if you said it, you prove it.. if you can’t. Case closed, correct?

Posted December 22, 2013 1:27 pm 


Old Coot

PEEJ: No, Floyd’s style only gets you beat if you are like Gatti, Marquez, Guererro, or Alvarez, lots of hand talent but none with legs. Cotto had both and Manny is twice Cotto. Floyd’s done the math… You just need to.

Posted December 22, 2013 1:26 pm 


Cheezb

Can people here stop playing the race card? It’s juvenile and just downright dumb.

I dunno when it started but every time I come on here, someone is calling SRedmond or Peej racist.
SRedmond is an African American who supports African American fighters. Peej is (as far as I know) a white guy who happens to be a fan of some African American fighters (which is hardly unusual coz lo and behold, there are many great African American fighters). How in the hell is that racist?

Nobody calls K2Fan (for example) a racist for being blindly loyal to Ukranian fighters. We’re not calling the Mexican and Puerto Rican fans racist for supporting their country-men.
Why is it suddenly different for people supporting African American fighters?

Posted December 22, 2013 1:26 pm 


Thrashnephilim

I’m actually gonna pass Peej. I have actual stuff to do, don’t believe I’d find your comments and you already showed me enough that I’m convinced I’d be wasting my time.

Posted December 22, 2013 1:24 pm 


PEEJ

Oh no, I am 100% confident Floyd toys with Pac. But that doesn’t mean Pac can’t land a punch and hurt Floyd, just like Guerrero could of landed a punch and hurt Floyd, just like 44 other opponents could of landed and hurt Floyd and beaten him. But it did not happen.

Posted December 22, 2013 1:23 pm 


PEEJ

Only Pac fans want to see the fight. Guerrero was coming off a win and was his mandatory. So he fought him. How did Pac become mandatory after getting KOd, fighting someone coming off a loss, fighting someone that had not fought at 147, fighting someone not ranked in the WBC? Oh and lets not forget all the excuses Pac and Company came up with to dodge the fight.

Posted December 22, 2013 1:22 pm 


Old Coot

Peej: What you really mean is you don’t know if Floyd toys with Manny… Therefore you’re against you hero taking the risk that he can’t… Just like Floyd himself is.

Posted December 22, 2013 1:22 pm 


Thrashnephilim

When you talk yourself into circles and discredit yourself, I need not to, and clearly, you’ve only discredited yourself.

Posted December 22, 2013 1:21 pm 


PEEJ

I know styles make fights and I also know Pacs style of all offense and aggression mixed in with no defense gets you beat every time against Floyd. Like you say styles makes fights and Pac can’t deal with the style of a counter puncher or boxer. Both of which Floyd is. Not to mention the best defense in the game at the moment.

Posted December 22, 2013 1:21 pm 


Old Coot

PEEJ: So if Floyd would fight Guererro, who is clearly not in Manny’s class… HUNDREDS of millions of Fans who DO want to see the fight, don’t deserve to see Floyd vs Manny, cus ole PEEJ thinks it’s a bad fight? Are you serious dude?

Posted December 22, 2013 1:20 pm 


Thrashnephilim

You haven’t discredited me. You actually discredited yourself by talking trash on 2 guys and then saying.you picked them in fights. Not to mention you said you don’t want to see them in the best.matchups.

Posted December 22, 2013 1:18 pm 


PEEJ

Like I said before Old Coot it is my opinion. Based on last fights I can clearly pick Floyd to whoop Pac. Does it mean its certain no because anything can happen in the ring. But I still think Floyd toys with Pac and going by Pacs last few fights since the Mosley fight. Im pretty confident in that.

Posted December 22, 2013 1:17 pm 


Old Coot

And Peej… Styles REALLY DO make fights, & mark my words, Manny’s will give Floyd fits. So if Floyd ever steps up, to FINALLY fight the guy, you & my son-in-law will see.

Posted December 22, 2013 1:16 pm 


PEEJ

I want the best fights to happen. What fights have I not wanted to happen? The only fight that I didn’t care about was the Pac vs Floyd fight because I think Floyd toys with Pac. It is only a big money fight. Other than that it is an easy fight for Floyd. So which fights was I against again?

Posted December 22, 2013 1:16 pm 


Old Coot

Peej: You can’t have Floyd beat Manny by fans’ opinion of past performance alone… Public opinion and posterity says he gotta do it in the ring man…

Posted December 22, 2013 1:15 pm 


Thrashnephilim

Hopkins Kovalev proof, where is it?!? You picked the guys you sat here and.tore up for the last hour…hard for me to believe… Where is the article that you commented that stuff on as proof?!? You prove nothing but inconsistency and and being caught in lies outright.

Posted December 22, 2013 1:14 pm 


PEEJ

I haven’t discredited anybody. I have only discredited your knowledge. And on this website. Obviously you haven’t been posting on here long or you changed your screen name. Like many people do after being proved wrong on a constant basis.

Posted December 22, 2013 1:10 pm 


Thrashnephilim

Peej, you can be called alot of names, but nobody can accuse you of being a boxing fan because you don’t want ANY good fights to happen. You’ve made that ABSOLUTELY clear.

Posted December 22, 2013 1:10 pm 


Thrashnephilim

In what thread? Funny, these are the same guys you’ve been discrediting the whole time. I tend to find deception with your response.

Posted December 22, 2013 1:07 pm 


PEEJ

Floyd has already proved he is the greatest of this generation. Something Pac hasn’t with loses to Morales, Bradley and Marquez.

Posted December 22, 2013 1:05 pm 


PEEJ

Hmmm I picked GGG in his last fight. I picked Kovalev in his last fight. I picked Maidana over Broner in his last fight even though he is not white. And what difference what color they are? I pick who I think is gonna win, not by there race or color. That is just plain ridiculous. You obviously have no boxing knowledge and you are a racist if that is how you pick your fights.

Posted December 22, 2013 1:04 pm 


Thrashnephilim

Jon, you can eat my “chit” if you think I need to respect a dirty fighter’s legacy.

Posted December 22, 2013 1:03 pm 


Old Coot

Not only does Floyd, need to prove he’s better than Manny, like he and his fans claim, but Floyd finally owes a REAL fight against an equally skilled threat, to all his fans, that he’s ripped off for tens of millions, over the years in those snore fests against cherry-picked lead foots like Gatti, Marquez, Guererro and Alvarez.

Posted December 22, 2013 1:02 pm 


Thrashnephilim

OAnd how about you, Redmond?

Posted December 22, 2013 1:01 pm 


Thrashnephilim

Ok Peej, what white fighters did you pick lately?

Posted December 22, 2013 1:00 pm 


Old Coot

Forget Maidana!… Floyd first needs to PROVE Manny is as his fans claim- “An easy win!”. Floyd owes Manny that much, after needlessly defaming him for NO good reason!!

Posted December 22, 2013 12:57 pm 


Thrashnephilim

I want to point out that you.guys dance around your racial bias and protection of fighters who show they are afraid of fighters. You’d rather not see a fight of top fighters because of your protective bias. That in itself.tells your agenda.

Posted December 22, 2013 12:51 pm 


SREDMOND

Thrash, 40 year old Hops lost some close ones to a young active Taylor many thought those losses were debateable but OK….Hopkins THEN moved up at 41 and became LHW Champ on 2 occasions… Kovalev and Stevenson COMBINED will never have Hopkins career as an ATG boxer who you scrubs are still gonna give an opponent FULL credit for knocking out when it finally happens even if he is 64 years old…

Posted December 22, 2013 12:45 pm 


SREDMOND

Thrash, AGAIN this was a showcase of TOP LHW’s and the FACT is that Stevenson is the TOP LHW and he went ahead and continued building his brand as did Kovalev who impressed me in his execution as well… That said these fighters are getting better at understanding the business of boxing and their managers and promoters have a window to make money for EVERYONE… Kovalev HAS to be open to anything because he WANTS what Stevenson HAS, whereas Stevenson has to GET paid and paid fast because he is NOT a young fighter…The term “Scared” is VERY overused in boxing which is a business you are simply sitting here with a construction worker mentality saying “just fight him” why would Stevenson leave a big payday with Froch (doubtful) or Pascal in Canada on the table to fight a guy that is still just known to the hardcore?? eventually a clash should happen and I think with the activity levels they both show 2014 is not unlikely, that said why is it soooooo important for you to try and sell someone as scared of Kovalev or GGG? it makes NEITHER guy a BETTER fighter NOR gets you in the HOF even if it was true…

Posted December 22, 2013 12:43 pm 


Thrashnephilim

YEAH, don’t forget.two losses to Taylor, Mr. Statistics.

Posted December 22, 2013 12:42 pm 


SREDMOND

Chad Dawson was NOT a “nobody” that just seriously poor commentary is he NOW a fallen star? Yes that said Dawson was recognized BEST LHW in the world for SEVERAL years and at the point he defeated an OLD Hopkins he had a single loss to Pascal and held a win over Tomas Adamek who now competes at HW…Hopkins lost to Dawson but he SURE as hell did not “get beat up” the old man looked fresh as a daisy because he is one of the best defenders the sport has seen.. He could not keep up with Chads work rate and rightfully lost you guys are so dopey you cannot accurately detail a TRUE beating ie Pacquiao putting the smash on Margarito…

Posted December 22, 2013 12:37 pm 


Thrashnephilim

Did murat end up fighting Hopkins? I don’t get what you are thinking you are proving?? Besides, that old man would get his head broken.

Posted December 22, 2013 12:35 pm 


Ricch

Prince so …..150 is not above 147….still having so much fun dunce

Posted December 22, 2013 12:35 pm 


Proud African

Thrashnephilim – I still don’t understand why GGG is afraid of Adonis Stevenson. Why should ‘superman’ GGG be afraid of Adonis Stevenson? and Stevenson will KO Kovalev.

Posted December 22, 2013 12:35 pm 


Thrashnephilim

You guys think Kovalev ducks Hopkins you are legally eligible for dummy checks. The guy got.beat up by Dawson who is.nobody and.got smacked in one by Stevenson. Now Hopkins is fighting no name Euros to decisions. Get real!!

Posted December 22, 2013 12:32 pm 


PEEJ

You should go ahead and vomit though, you are the one spewing BS and incorrect info.

Posted December 22, 2013 12:30 pm 


PEEJ

The reason Stevenson called out Froch and Hopkins is because they both beat Canadians. Unfortunately the crowd was not fooled when he did that. He may very well not want to fight Kovalev. But Stevenson does have a punch and could possibly hurt Kovalev. But fact still remains Kovalev had the option to fight Hopkins and he went in another direction.

Posted December 22, 2013 12:29 pm 


Thrashnephilim

Peej, did Hopkins nit have a fight a few weeks before that? Wow, you guys are so full of BS. Makes me want to vomit.

Posted December 22, 2013 12:28 pm 


Thrashnephilim

I prove Stevenson is scared because that card was set up to make a showdown with Stevenson and Kovalev. That was the whole purpose and Stevenson backed out. It was a guided question by Kellerman and a very direct one… Are you interested in fighting Kovalev? He said Kovalev is good but he thinks fans want to see him fight Froch or Hopkins. Froch is a super middle?!?! Kovalev ended the fight quicker againsta better fighter and then called Stevenson out in his hometown. Now, if the tables were turned you’d be singing a whole different song, you useless eater.

Posted December 22, 2013 12:25 pm 


PEEJ

Kovalev called Hopkins out, was mandatory to Hopkins, Hopkins accepted the challenge and Kovalev fought the other dude. GGG is not willing to move up or down. He is only willing to move down and yet there is no proof he can even make 154. Funny but Ward and GGG both accepted his challenge and GGGs team got quite. I have no doubt he is the best 160lb fighter but the best 168 no way. He would need to prove that.

Posted December 22, 2013 12:22 pm 


SREDMOND

Kovalev would be the FIRST guy to put Hopkins to sleep…. The man is gonna be 49 that said he has exposed more than ONE guy who was supposed to have the goods to take him… I have no issue with a Stevenson/Kovalev bout at some point in the near future (2014) assuming both keep winning… That said its understandable that Stevensons team wants to get him some REAL cash in his pocket before he ages outta boxing..FACT is Kovalev was an undercard fighter on his ticket not vice versa…

Posted December 22, 2013 12:20 pm 


SREDMOND

This constant drumbeat about the ENTIRE sport of at least 175-154 living in mortal fear of Golovkin has grown VERY old… When the $$$ is right guys will fight ANYONE and they prove it by sacrificing their hard earned 0′s and records stepping up to fight the Elites of the sport like Mayweather, Ward and Pac… Golovkin has some people inebriated off of him stopping C level boxers in rapid succession yet his experience at the World Class level is subordinate to even Broners who at least stepped up and fought bigger men ultimately to his detriment…I have seen plenty of KO artists with padded resumes lose their 0′s like a set of keys when they begin to fight guys that are NOT gonna yield or show up with “a sparring partner mentality”…. It will be interesting to see how Martinez looks after a long layoff, we know he is slated to face Cotto which makes sense for the $$$$$$ Sergio (Unlike GGG) has earned it by banging with the top names at 160 and giving and taking punishment…Assuming he defeats a Cotto coming up in weight I would like to see him against Golovkin…But then again Golovkin against any real World Class fighters is an improvement…

Posted December 22, 2013 12:17 pm 


Thrashnephilim

Hahahah!!! You think Hopkins will do anything other than go sleep against Kovalev? If you do that proves you have a mental H. kovalev wants the top guy, what’s the problem? Other than you trying to spin EVERYTHING?!

Posted December 22, 2013 12:16 pm 


Thrashnephilim

Stop spinning stuff… At least he’s willing to go up and down. To fight top names! It’s all he can do because nobody will actually sign up to get beat up.

Posted December 22, 2013 12:13 pm 


SREDMOND

Thrash, HOW exactly do you PROVE he is scared? didn’t Kovalev avoid OLD Hopkins??? WAS he scared or was his career being guided? AGAIN I know you are NOT sophisticated to understand the politics of getting paid in boxing especially for a fighter who has a SMALL window like Stevenson but I am a patient man and we will tutor you till you start to think with your brain as opposed to emotions… No Xmas Card necessary LOL

Posted December 22, 2013 12:10 pm 


Thrashnephilim

If you truly believe you are going to inform me,… I honestly and wholeheartedly feel bad for you Redmond. I don’t know whether to laugh or go with my gut and feel bad for you.

Posted December 22, 2013 12:08 pm 


SREDMOND

GGG was in the fighter meeting with Ward when SOG was there with the HBO team and he called “Ward a Great Champion” and said that perhaps in the future they might meet in the ring” (now urgency) Golovkin and his team have been MUCH more vocal about seeking a fight with WW Floyd Mayweather which is is driven by the money and the fact he would have a MUCH smaller fighter in the ring with him..GGG has NO problems facing low end competition why not step to 168 and start making his presence felt amongst some of the other players there while calling out Ward? NOOOOOOOOOO he wants the #1 and #2 fighters in the sport delivered to his doorstep on his terms after fighting Stevens and this impending nobody in Monaco? That’s not how it works

Posted December 22, 2013 12:07 pm 


Thrashnephilim

By the way, that’s code for I better get all the money I can before Kovalev beats my ass for me. If its not that easy, how was Kovalev ready to make it happen? He has mandatory and choice defenses. He chooses to avoid kovalev until he’s mandated and gets ruined. Don’t act Luke that guy has no choice. He does, he’s just afraid and for good reason!!

Posted December 22, 2013 12:05 pm 


SREDMOND

Thrash, are you passing that off as a rebuttal to my fact filled STINGING commentary?? HAHAHAHAHAHA….Perhaps this is the BEST you have and you cannot be expected to do much beyond this level but its my duty to shed light on the holes in your arguments..

Posted December 22, 2013 12:03 pm 


PEEJ

Actually Ward did say he would fight GGG but his handlers say the have no interest in moving up in weight for another year or so. They called out and Hopkins and he accepted and that was the last you heard from his handlers about a fight with Hopkins.

Posted December 22, 2013 12:02 pm 


SREDMOND

Golovkin has supposedly said ALOT of things but what do we SEE???? Him facing inept fighters at 160… He says he is willing to go to 175 or 168 well tell him to start building his track record there if he thinks bigger $$$$ and acclaim await… You guys are NOT gonna be able to sell Golovkin as “Great” based on hollow sound bites when we see him in the ring with Rosado, Ouma, Ishida, Stevenson and now this journeyman.. Sooner or later the man is gonna have to move outta his comfort zone if he wants to really score… Sergio Martinez moved up in order to make a name perhaps that will be GGG’s fate if not then he can resign himself to a FAILED media campaign while he fights the dregs of 154 and 160….

Posted December 22, 2013 12:00 pm 


SREDMOND

Stevenson did NOT get “outshined” by Kovalev both guys upped their stock and did their jobs… FACT is that 36 year old Stevenson holds the Lineal LHW Belt and at his age has gotta make some $$$$$$ times on Kovalev’s side in this regard these “ducking claims” are really outta hand and they ignore the BUSINESS reality of these boxers lives…. This is how they pay bills and set up for the future, and guys who bring no fans to the table are often gonna have to wait in line till they gain greater public acclaim… We have seen many guys book a solid win and fail to capitalize on the opportunity financially…You guys act like this is the schoolyard and fights can just be made with a “snap of the fingers” and a handshake…

Posted December 22, 2013 11:57 am 


Anonymous

What an asinine article.

Posted December 22, 2013 11:54 am 


Thrashnephilim

Proud African, Golovkin has said on record he will fight Ward. Ward doesn’t say the name “Golovkin”. You’re a mixed up bastid but don’t worry, I’m gonna help you be informed.

Posted December 22, 2013 11:54 am 


SREDMOND

Thrash, you are making a FOOL of yourself Golovkin CANNOT be mentioned in the same sentence as Floyd Mayweather as it pertains to taking risk and accomplishments in the sport of boxing… GGG fights 4 times per year BECAUSE he is an UPSTART boxer looking to make a name for himself… Floyd, Cotto and Manny all fought crazy schedules like that when they were young and NOT on the map facing guys to help them learn and build a resume…Golovkins BEST evening is Matthew Macklin who’s WW equivalents would not even rate for an FMJ fight due to the perception of Floyds skills… Golovkin does NOT have to worry about promotions and doing BIG PPV numbers because relative to Floyd he is a COMPLETE nobody that is why he can go face journeymen in Monaco and no one really cares… A boxer FARTS in Tunisia and Floyd Mayweather is asked ” do you wanna fight him” Andre Ward said it best “The media builds guys up as Boogeymen as fighters we don’t really think like that”…..Golovkin has proven he can stop C level fighters and nomads at 160, he has NOT even taken on the risk good or bad that Adrian Broner has…The boxing public could care less about Golovkin relative to Floyd…

Posted December 22, 2013 11:53 am 


Thrashnephilim

Proud African, Stevenson is a light heavy. Besides, isn’t it Stevenson who got outshined by Kovalev on the same card in Adonis’ home town and then Stevenson avoided kellerman about FIGHTING KOVALEV?! He said the fans want to see him fight Froch or Hopkins…lol no they don’t. He’s a puss.

Posted December 22, 2013 11:50 am 


Popkins

Ali comfortably handled come forward fighters like quarry, bonavena and cooper. But boxing is about levels. Frazier was an elite level aggressive fighter/brawler and was able to best Ali and cause him trouble in all three fights. A Pacquiao of 2008-09 was a level up from the likes of canelo, Maidana, matthyse etc. Manny’s aggressive, quick footed, high volume punching style would have given Floyd problems. And that’s why Mayweather swerved the fight – web it mattered. Manny is past it now.

Posted December 22, 2013 11:41 am 


fedor

floyd will destroy maidana if they ever fight , it will be like floyd vs gatti , maidana wont be the same after loosing to floyd coz he wont be able to land puches & hes way too slow it will turn up a mismatch

Posted December 22, 2013 11:39 am 


Proud African

GGG is avoiding Adonis Stevenson and Andre ward.

Posted December 22, 2013 11:36 am 


Thrashnephilim

And just so we’re clear, there is a line of people that want to fight Floyd. People like Floyd inclusive are avoiding even saying the name “Golovkin”. There are your facts, if you want to change or distort them then by all means,… It’ll be your lie and you can tell it however you like.

Posted December 22, 2013 11:23 am 


shaneo

Floyd>Hatton(”swarmer”)
Floyd > Canelo (”swarmer”)

Posted December 22, 2013 11:19 am 


Thrashnephilim

Rax, what do you mean who has GGG beat? He’s beaten everyone hasn’t he? Like Floyd when you’re that good who has either really fought. Only exception is that GGG always is ready and wants anyone, while Floyd has on record ducked Pac for YEARS! In denial?! Article just out says Floyd is finally ready for Pac. Don’t talk about Golovkin choking when you’re talking to me about Floyd. I’m from Pittsburgh and there’s a fighter from there called “the Pittsburgh kid” AKA Paul Spadafora. Wanna talk about a choke get yourself on YouTube and check out the absolute schooling Floyd gets from PS!!!! There are no excuses whatsoever as FMJ keeps himself in top form all year round. After that, you have the right to never step forward and have me embarrass you again.

Posted December 22, 2013 11:18 am 


Popkins

Peej… Agreed. PAC has lost it. … But canelo never had it to lose.

Posted December 22, 2013 11:17 am 


The Prince

I do believe Floyd will fight Maidana next to get revenge for Broner. Floyd overruled both his uncle and father whom wanted to train Broner and told him to go back down to 140 and prepare for his May undercard. This tells me that Floyd is looking to take Maidana out. And like Floyd’s other opponents, Maidana has been on a winning streak and his scored a big win in many people’s eyes with Broner. Given Floyd’s history of how he picks his opponents, I’d say it’s a lock. Also there is a lot of backlash about the Khan fight, but the UK crowd would make it an event so it could still happen.

Posted December 22, 2013 11:15 am 


PEEJ

Floyds fights are so boring that he is the PPV king and has broken PPV records.

Posted December 22, 2013 11:15 am 


Tomato Can

Let’s put it this way, I think Canelo would stop Maidana. Styles make fights but Maidana would not beat Mayweather. He’s more deserving than khan though…

Posted December 22, 2013 11:07 am 


Swedish Boxing Fan

The Mayweather family belives they are the best and can’t be defeated, well I’m so hopöing they all will get a huge hard knockout so they can wake up. Of course Floyd Mayweather Jr is unbeaten wehn they don’t dare match him against any opponnt posessing a thret to him in the ring.

Beside, Mayweather Jr’,s fights have any way never been that fun to watch and why is that? Becouse there are not much for a fight to watch happening and it doesent help thatr he have ducked Manny Paquiao, Paul Williams, rematch with Oscar De La Hoya etc so the day he gets defeated or retire, I will be glad becouse I’m so tired of the HUGE EGO.

Posted December 22, 2013 11:07 am 


PEEJ

Hard to say Pac has that killer instinct after letting Rios off like he said he did. His fight with Mosley or Bradley didn’t show much killer instinct neither. He may have lost that instinct.

Posted December 22, 2013 11:03 am 


Popkins

Canelo lacks the intensity, ferocity and killer instinct of guys lack Maidana and Pacquiao.

Posted December 22, 2013 11:02 am 


Darne

Maidana is smaller and slower than Canelo who went in there with the plan to swarm and bully Floyd and we all know how that ended. This would be a near shutout points win for Floyd.

Posted December 22, 2013 10:54 am 


Blaze

I think Maidana would make an interesting opponent for Floyd. While Maidana is slower and not as skilled, he will press forward and won’t make the mistake of trying to box Floyd, simply because he has no real boxing at that level to fall back on. Maidana, if under the pressure of loosing, will press harder rather than back off and trying to measure. Floyd has fought other hard hitters, but not the kind that are pure brawlers. Mosley and Canelo are perfect examples of being hard hitters, but not brawlers. While they have big punching power, if they cease to land and get countered, they’ll resolve to lowering their punch output and trying to time their opponent which is exactly where Floyd takes over with his better boxing and better timing. Maidana will go the opposite way throwing more punches and being less measuring with his strategy and therefore making a much more interesting fight. There are a very few number of good fighters like this. Examples other than Maidana would be Castillo, Margarito, and Pac. Floyd went down that road before and hasn’t travelled it again since leaving Arum. I don’t think he’d avoid a Maidana fight because Maidana isn’t as durable and this may mean that we’ll actually see Maidana vs Floyd, and it just may be fight of the year, even with a lopsided decision. I certainly would like to see that 100x’s more than Floyd vs Khan, which I have no interest in.

Posted December 22, 2013 10:53 am 


Popkins

Khan may have edged Maidana on points, but Amir took a beating in the process. I think Marcos would KO him in a rematch. Khan hasn’t been the same fighter since. Maidana wud giv Floyd a tougher fight than Guerrero that’s for sure..

Posted December 22, 2013 10:50 am 


Drink The Kool Aid

Ignore that racist idiot The Prince. He’s a typical Flomo. Just another insecure fan boy who is so immersed in his delusion that it blinds him to what everyone can see.

Flomos are the only group of fans who are totally opposed to the idea of their hero fighting against the best. They want everyone to love Mayweather as much as they do and anoint him greater than legends of the sport who proved their worth and earned their respect the hard way by taking on the best, but they don’t want to see him in share a ring with anyone who would give him that kudos or who poses a real chance of beating him.

Look at the amount of energy they devote to defending his obvious lying, cherry picking and ducking and the resistance they put up whenever anybody says they want to see him prove he’s as great as they claim him to be. They’re all completely insane. Mayweather says he’s the greatest of all time but he hasn’t done anything to prove he deserves to be ranked along side many of the fighters he and they say he’s better than. He woudn’t even entertain the notion of fighting half these fighters or taking a third of the risks they took but these idiots say he should be ranked ahead of them

Posted December 22, 2013 10:50 am 


BILLY NO MEDALS ALL AMERICAN BOY

your views carry no clout here,go home and wash Gallotas pants!!your a rodent on our streets!!enough is enough Anonymous!!poland awaits you pale face

Posted December 22, 2013 10:44 am 


BILLY NO MEDALS ALL AMERICAN BOY

stop slagging of the yanks Anonymous!!you thick polish plank,you must vacate the UK soon,go home you scrounging leach!!!!!!!

Posted December 22, 2013 10:26 am 


SREDMOND

Yeah we heard “Floyd won’t fight Canelo” or Mosley and after they were sent to the shower empty handed now we gotta hear about the rest of the sport… Yeah Maidana is now the secret weapon Floyd’s afraid of??? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA I actually like the storyline of this fight but if “Maidana’s the man” guys must be thrilled with Khan, who dropped Chino with a bodyshot and owns a win over him????

Posted December 22, 2013 10:17 am 


snotburglar

ffs it would be a clinic for Floyd

Posted December 22, 2013 10:16 am 


Tomato Can

Peej, has the beat…

Posted December 22, 2013 10:11 am 


PEEJ

Maidana deserves the fight more than Khan and he will be able to take better punches than Khan will be able to. No to mention he is on a winning streak. He also has a title and is ranked much higher than Khan. Unfortunately it would be a beating that Floyd issues to Maidana because Maidana is too slow for Floyd.

Posted December 22, 2013 10:00 am 


RapidFire

Both Maidana and Pacquiao need to run along. Both are overrated and tailor made for Mayweather..be real people

Posted December 22, 2013 9:56 am 


spooky

come on Andy… Maidana was outboxed by Devon and Amir. Bronner was a hype job. I love Maidana but he swings wide and brings his hands back to his waist…. aka wide open!

Floyd needs to step up and quick cherry picking these taylor-made brawlers.

cheers from Myrtle -Jaman

Posted December 22, 2013 9:26 am 


Popkins

The prince… Even today pacquiao is really only a lightweight. He cud still make 135 easily. Mayweather on the other hand, is a full blown welterweight. Therefore from a physical point of view, PAC wiping the floor with guys like Cotto, mosley, hatton, Margarito and Clottey is more impressive than Floyd beating guys the same size as him such as Cotto and Mosley. Canelo is the exception, possibly oscar. And guys such as Marquez, Guerrero, Ortiz, hatton and now possibly khan and Maidana, are all naturally smaller than Mayweather.

Posted December 22, 2013 9:18 am 


Popkins

Yep Pacman and Maidana – the two most difficult fights out there for Floyd.

Posted December 22, 2013 9:11 am 


The Prince

Rich – Misquoting me now? I said how many people ABOVE 147 did Manny beat? None, compared to Mayweather who beat three: De La Hoya, Cotto, and Alvarez. Weak sauce. This is why I love torturing Pactards. Original post: “Oh, and how many top fighters above 147 did Pacquiao fight and beat? None. How many fighters above 147 did Mayweather beat? 3. De La Hoya, Cotto, and Alvarez. Manny weight drained both Cotto and De La Hoya to get his wins. Mayweather is so great, haters are demanding he fight Middleweights and Super Middleweights, while the same haters make all kinds of excuses for why Manny doesn’t have to do the same. Floyd is clearly above.”

Posted December 22, 2013 9:03 am 


red

@boxing fan… “Floyd punches harder than Maidana”??? What are you on??

Posted December 22, 2013 8:44 am 


Anonymous

to all you soppy yanks,its five years to late wake up.

Posted December 22, 2013 8:29 am 


Rich

The Prince no, I do not have you confused with any one else,,,hardly likely ….Was it not you who said “How many top fighters has Pacq fought or beat under 147..none.. the evidence speaks for itself”. Your evidence is proven wrong by the fact he fought Margarito at 150……But perhaps you forgot to state this particular “FACT”….another one for the road…..

Posted December 22, 2013 8:21 am 


eric

The real question is WHY would so called mayweather fans spend night and day 24/7 trying to come up with agrument s asto why floyd shouldn’t fight this guy or that guy ? Dont you homos want to see fights ? Floyd can cement his legacy if he beats manny and yes floyd needs pacman, dont fool yourselves.

History records this stuff and dosent alow people to forget.

Posted December 22, 2013 8:17 am 


eric

Its not hate against floyd when fans want to see a compeditive bout against a fighter fans belive floyd has been ducking and also fell it would be an exciting fight to watch.

What dont you nutt suckers understand, its weird that you guys get upset that boxing fans want tonsee the best fight the best, how is that anything other than people wanting to see a great fight, I mean we are boxing fans stupid.

If i was a nutt warmer ” oh my gosh guys, I cant belive you guys wanna see a boxing fight, leave floyd alone, your so mean, its strange boxing fans want to see floyd fight the best, im scared my p@ssy hurts”

Posted December 22, 2013 8:08 am 


james

Laughable article, Broner’s problem was he fought too flat footed and never threw enough punches, Floyd would pick Maidana apart and it would be a repeat of the Guerrero fight.

Posted December 22, 2013 8:00 am 


curtley

This is the most ridiculous article I have read in a long time Floyd would give Maidana (who I really like by the way) a slow prolonged beat down) different levels

Posted December 22, 2013 7:58 am 


eric

Floyd needs to fight manny or tim Bradley

Posted December 22, 2013 7:57 am 


eric

Floyd wont fight maidona if the money aint right ? Floydcwont fight pacman and the money is above right, biggest money maker in boxing, so thats BS.

Floyd put butts in seats ? What was the numbers for mayweather vs Robert gur… ? Oh yeah thats what I thought.

Bob arum is a snake and greedy ? As far as mayweather go s isnt it calling the kettle black ?

Floyd wants to give manny 20% and floyd keepsc80% for himself and all the PPV money ?

Mayweather would give manny 5 % and take 95% if he could, floyd needs to look in the mirrior because he s starting to look like bob arums little brother.

What a Hippocratic little man that floyd is.

Mannys deserves at least 40% of the revenue, floyds got an 0 big deal.

How floyd can go around talking about bob arum when he s just as greedy cracks me up, oh sure defend floyd coz the same argument s bob arum can make why he also should get paid more in terms of his job worth.

Posted December 22, 2013 7:55 am 


skinnysteve

plain & simple floyd jr does not have the power to stop marcos maidana

Posted December 22, 2013 7:44 am 


kissmyblackirish

Swarmer or no swarmer, Floyd would see Chino’s punchers coming from a mile away. Is the writer for real? No.

Posted December 22, 2013 7:17 am 


Andrew

I think Floyd needs to put up or shut up and either fight Pac or Maidana. Why do you feel the need to put down someone else just because they have a different opinion than you do? Are you that insecure?

Posted December 22, 2013 7:14 am 


Bfan

A bigger point isn’t whether Maidena can win, it’s the drama of the fight : he beat the little brother with the relentless swarming style. The boxer(albeit one who is allowed to cheat with elbows, holding, and pushing down the head) vs the heavy hitting swarmer who actually fights a cleaner fight.

Posted December 22, 2013 7:13 am 


kissmyblackirish

Andrew please!

Posted December 22, 2013 7:12 am 


BLUESMAN

Floyd would KO Maidana, end of f***ing story. If Broner could stagger and hurt Maidana, just imagine what Floyd would do. Maidana’s a very good fighter, but he’s not in Floyd’s class.

Posted December 22, 2013 6:39 am 


Anonymous

now the plastic boxing writers are talking sh#t.

Posted December 22, 2013 6:21 am 


Boxingfan

Clueless writer, if you are going to plagiarize, at least do it right. SWARM? Maidana is not a swarmer, he lets you come at him and then slugs. Floyd punches harder than Maidana, does this make Marcos the “pure boxer”? It’s pathetic how every clueless soul that knows how to write wants to write about boxing.

Posted December 22, 2013 6:03 am 


The Great American Joke

Cheezb- totally agree,that big shot Mosley caught Floyd with was a beauty and I thought it was gonna be lights out for Floyd,as Shane has always been a monster finisher,but Floyd maintained his skills and thinking,even when his legs buckled,and dominated the rest of the fight.Those few moments should be enough to tell anyone that Floyd is not only the most skilled boxer of his era,but he is mentally and physically as tough as anyone.If you’re fortunate to catch Floud with a great shot,he ain’t going down.Floyd has it all,that’s why it’s impossible t beat him.

Posted December 22, 2013 5:42 am 


The Great American Joke

The only possible reason Floyd won’t fight Maidana is if the money isn’t right.The swarming blueprint was attempted by Hatton already.Maidana may punch hard but he’s a slow puncher,you have to be in front of him with little or no defence.The best chance of beating Floyd is having both power and speed,remember that shot Mosley caught him with? That’s how to beat Floyd,intelligent,explosive speed.Manny has two of those qualities,but I still think Manny is the biggest threat to Floyd,just not good enough to beat him.Maidana,who I think has improved a lot,would face a night of frustration and embarrassment vs Floyd.When will his detractors finally wake up and realise?:No matter how much you WANT Floyd to lose,it ain’t happening.There is nobody at 140-154 who can beat him,hence it all just comes down to which opponents will deliver the most money.

Posted December 22, 2013 5:32 am 


Anonymous

Pactards are easily led astray its no wonder why Manny is broke to this day. Everyone lobbied to make Manny vs. Floyd a reality since 09 when Manny was hot. From Richard Schaffer Oscar even 50 cent. Floyd himslef called Manny and offered him 40 mil and he turned it down. Now Floyd holds all the cards because the longer he waits the most desperate Manny and that snake Arum will become. Two things why would a man do all of this if he was scared second. Why would he have to beg Manny to fight. Floyd put asses in seats he sells out vegas. All his fight are huge. Manny on the other hand souldnt even sell 500,000 ppv. He is suck letting Arum screw him no way he should be 68 mil in the whole is taxes that says it all. The sad reality is he will end up with nothing. If he dosent wise up and ditch the jew. Manny only has 3 fights left maybe if he is lucky and Floyd is the biggest fight money wise for him. But again until he starts getting convincing wins no one cares about him. And Arum will not let him fight outside of Top rank and the pactards will continue to call Floyd scared and he will continue making 100 mil a fight beating guys like Kahn. The madness continues. Floyd is smarter than a fox….

Posted December 22, 2013 5:07 am 


Dan D

Easy win for Mayweather in my view

Posted December 22, 2013 5:03 am 


The Prince

typo – confused.

Posted December 22, 2013 4:40 am 


The Prince

And you must have me confessed with someone else; no one has yet to prove me wrong on any of my points. Arguing against my points isn’t proving anything. I state facts, detractors like you state hatred of a man you don’t even know. I don’t need to know Mayweather. I’m a boxing fan first and he’s one of the best to do it in history. Furthermore, I don’t hardly say anything bad about Pacquiao, but I’m hell on the Pactards, Bob Arum, and Freddie Roach. Deal with it.

Posted December 22, 2013 4:36 am 


The Prince

Rich – You’re clearly not tired of reading “my drivel” or perhaps you’re not intelligent enough to ignore the post you don’t like. Or perhaps my post touched nerve, because you’re clearly one of the detractors I was talking about. Don’t kill yourself when after Floyd possibly loses for the first time, he’s still hits PPV records, and he’s still the most sought after opponent on anyone’s list. And experts and true boxing fans start talking about his well deserved place in history as a ATG. I’ll have the police on standby just in case. Me? I’ll be a fan and defend his resume against anyone who tries to claim such a brilliant boxer is a fraud.

Posted December 22, 2013 4:31 am 


Rich

The Prince….What a romantic title for such an unromantic poster, do you ever get tired of your non stop regurgitating of Floyds prowess, probably not….But the least you could do is temper it with the truth, you have been proven wrong so many times you are an embarrassment…..What is even more pathetic is your put down of Pacq to elevate your hero ….Yet still you test our patience with your made up drivel….

Posted December 22, 2013 4:26 am 


Proud African

Floyd will make Maidana look like a paper doll. It’s funny how haters want Mayweather to fight everyone.

Posted December 22, 2013 3:59 am 


Andrew

I gurantee you that Floyd won’t fight him or Pacquiao. I doubt very seriously that he has the guts or the intestinal fortitude to put himself on the line against two potent punchers. He’s a great fighter and will go down as one of the best but if he doesnt fight Pac he will have to live wiht that for the rest of his existance. I disagree with you though that Pac will end up poor. His fans will always love him and he will always have a career in politics after boxing,..among other things I”m sure the Phillipinos would come in droves to see him do. What will happen to Floyd? I hope the best for him but given his track record I dont know what might happen to him. I hope the best for him though. I wish him no ill. I would love to see him get knocked out or beaten though. That would mkae my century! HAHA

Posted December 22, 2013 3:48 am 


rax

thrashnephilim – GGG was a great amateur no doubt (although he choked in the olympic final) and i know everyone is screaming about him being the second coming and all – but seriously who has the guy beaten? and i know you won’t take my word for it but as someone that witnessed him fight in osaka in 01 and followed him as fan right thru his amo career, he will never make 154pounds. if he could make that weight he would’ve done so when he turned pro. And even if he could he hasn’t done anywhere near enough to be considered a challenge to floyd. i know most of you are excited about Golovkin but i think he is the biggest disappointment in boxing. macklin, ishida, rosado, stevens and now adama are all just second rate fighters. GGG has not fought decent opponent. not one guy that had a chance of beating him – and until he does we really won’t know how good he is – for all we know when faced with a class opponent he’ll be sorted out like Mattyhsse was by Garcia
Kovalev! now there is a fighter to be excited about. but he won’t get many mentions because at 175 can’t be considered a floyd opponent

Posted December 22, 2013 3:47 am 


Cheezb

Retarded article. Nobody was mentioning Maidana’s name in the same sentence as Mayweather a couple of weeks ago… and who says Mayweather won’t fight him, anyway? The dust has barely even settled on Maidana’s win!

And fighters with glass jaws don’t remain standing after a pair of Mosley overhand rights. Ask Margarito what those right hands feel like.
This is what makes Mayweather so hard to beat. You might manage to catch him with a shot (e.g. Mosley, Judah, etc), but he can wear it pretty well, and then close the defensive gap… then the opponent is back to square one looking for a new opening that doesn’t tend to show itself.

Posted December 22, 2013 3:42 am 


telfon

Pactards wont face the facts that Manny is done. Look for Arum ro match him up with Ruslan, Bradley and Marquez all top rank fighters. Floyd is his own boss and calls all the shot. Manny has no say in his own career. His style scares floyd? The same style that didnt dominate Bradley that Marquez KO. and Rios stood up to and he couldnt knock out. Manny is destined to be broke and brain silly after boxing. He is 68 million in the whole with the IRS. Floyd made over 300 mil in 2013. Mannys last few fight will never be enough to get him out of Debt. Floyd will have the last laugh and at the end of the day richer. Manny will lose in 2014 unless he fights more bums like Rios….

Posted December 22, 2013 3:29 am 


Road

I always found Floyd not to my liking…w that…I’m a fan and give props deservedly so and try not to let my emotions get in the way….Today I can say $ will go down as one of the all time best…and this writer is creating discussion and I will end it…$ will make Maidana look like an amateur…just ask Floyds opponents….I have now been brought to believe and I know…Mone May will not be touched until he retires….

Posted December 22, 2013 3:24 am 


Tudor

Not a Floyd fan but facts are facts. Floyd’s chin was tested by Mosley and stood up

Posted December 22, 2013 3:21 am 


The Prince

For some detractors whose investment in Mayweather losing goes far beyond logical, any fighter rather it’s Pacquiao or anyone else that can beat the now near 40 year old Mayweather will be enough in their sad minds to call him a fraud. Everyone else will see a special fighter who was untouchable during his prime, beat some of the best fighters in his generation and made it look easy, and handed superstar boxers their first loss. Remained on top for majority of his career, only falling off when he temporarily retired. And is now one of the most studied and emulated boxers on the planet. The Detractors will celebrate if Floyd lossea 1 fight, only to discover that history and boxing experts will sing the praise of how far Mayweather came and how awesome such a feat was. Then they’ll get depressed all over again and head back to the forums still trying to prove a point nobody will care about. Rather he finishes undefeated or not, Floyd Mayweather Jr. will have the last laugh.

Posted December 22, 2013 3:11 am 


Martin “El Bruchador” Honorio

Reading this article makes you wonder Floyd had already finished picking his opponent in May, and this is the beginning of selling this mismatch of a fight. If Maidana can’t put down Khan, how can he put down Mayweather?

Posted December 22, 2013 3:06 am 


Turb0-H@mster..

Boxing training isn`t the toughest training I`ve ever done, I think it is fun. I`ve trained for Half-Ironman/70.3′s with a view to doing Kona one day. There’s a loneliness and an empty pain in that kind of distance training you need to embrace that doesn`t exist in 1-2 hour sessions with lots of people around

Sparring with someone who can kick you a$$ isn`t fun that hurts.
P1$$ing blood isn`t fun.

Depends how seriously you are taking it all.

Posted December 22, 2013 3:01 am 


Farmboxer

Styles make fights and Pac is the wrong style for Void, so is Maidana, but even more so Pac. Void is extremely afraid of Pac and for good reason. Void has made fools out of his fans, they believe anything Void tells them. Void knows they truth about himself and that is purely the reason he will not fight Pac. Void, Sr. let the cat out of the bag right after Pac stopped Cotto. IF PAC IS SUCH AN EASY FIGHT FOR VOID, VOID WOULD HAVE FOUGHT HIM YEARS AGO………….

Posted December 22, 2013 2:54 am 


Anonymous

I’ve trained some in gymnastics. Not because I wanted to be a gymnast, but because a lot of the stuff they do on the high bar, the rings, the floor, and the pommel horse can help you develop strength, toughness, balance, conditioning, speed, and body control even if it’s the most basic stuff.

But if the average heavyweight were to try to master something beyond the most basic handstands, tumbling, high bar, and pommel horse routines, which I would never try, it could quickly get pretty ridiculous from the standpoint of the time you’d have to devote to it. The skill level of some of these gymnasts is mind blowing.

Posted December 22, 2013 2:37 am 


TARK

Obviously if you don’t know how to box and defend, it can be tough… If you don’t know how to do a double back flip in a floor exercise in gymnastics you can break your neck too.

And it all depends on what level you were competing at… The higher you go the tougher it is, and the more you have to master… Some atheles spend a ridiculous number of hours perfecting their routines … and the difficulty keeps rising every few years.

Posted December 22, 2013 2:10 am 


Old Coot

@ Tomato Can: Yes I am a fanatic… I’m a PROUD fanatic, particularly when that fraud, hauls off out of the blue because he can’t believe how good a potential opponent is and how popular he is , that the fraud decides to make up cheating accusations, to shamefully try to tarnish the legacy of a real fighter, simply because the fraud’s ego couldn’t handle sharing the biggest sandbox with him. But mainly I don’t like how the fraud, REALLY did it to hide the fact that he knows the other guy is the real deal and his biggest threat, who not only could, but most likely WOULD expose his lil marketing scheme, tied to his overrated cherry-picked zero.

Posted December 22, 2013 2:09 am 


Andrew

Boxing is tougher than gymnastics because nobody is trying to hit you in the face in gymnastics. I’ve wrestled, boxed and done bodybuilding and I”d say boxing is hte toughest one on one sport!

Posted December 22, 2013 2:00 am 


Old Coot

Prof Konje: All we’re asking is for Floyd to prove he can as you fans say, “pick Manny apart”… PERIOD!!! Floyd particularly owes this to Manny because Floyd so frivoluosly defamed Manny with fabricated assertions and unwarranted test demands all designed to piss Manny off and kill the fights again for all these years. Then Floyd turned around because he had ZERO proof of Manny doing anything illegal, and Floyd paid Manny off big-time to drop the law-suit. So again, FLOYD OWES Manny!!!… Not to mention Floyd finally owes a REAL fight to all his fans, that he’s ripped off over the years in those cherry-picked snore fests against lead foots like Gatti, Marquez, Guererro and Alvarez.

Posted December 22, 2013 1:58 am 


TARK

Boxing is not the toughest sport by far… The demands are far from ridiculous — as they are in many individual sports if you really get serious about competing at world level.

Gymnastics is probably the toughest at the world level… Then other individual athletic/skill sports like skating, diving, skiing, X-game sport—even MMA is tougher—because there’s so much more to master and the gloves are so small.

Boxing is a sport where there’s fairly limited competition at the world level because adults tend to discourage kids from doing it.. Also it’s not in high schools and most all colleges in the US.. One of the things that can make it tough is the limited number of good coaches.. It’s very difficult to get good coaching to start.

But if you do have a good coach, and if you really work hard at it, it’s easier to move up to world level than most individual sports because of the limited participation and competition.

Posted December 22, 2013 1:57 am 


Tomato Can

Garcia, is ver y close to a fight with Mayweather, And deserves it more than any other GBP fighter IMO… a year away in boxing is a blink of an eye, really…

Posted December 22, 2013 1:54 am 


Tomato Can

Old Coot, lets say you’re right and Manny can beat Mayweather, and on top of that a few others can as well. Does that make Mayweather lousy enough for you to post how he’s a fraud, on a daily basis, ore are you just a fanatic???

Posted December 22, 2013 1:51 am 


Syd Convoy

Floyd is a clown.

Posted December 22, 2013 1:48 am 


Hidalgo

Tark, in an interview after Maidana beat Broner, Danny Garcia again stated that he was not pursuing a fight with Mayweather, that he was going to make his own legacy, and that he was going to stay at 140. I don’t think we’ll see Garcia being considered for a fight with Mayweather for at least a year.

Posted December 22, 2013 1:48 am 


Old Coot

I basically said this about why Money is ducking Pac-man, like 3 years ago… Manny is a brawl-swarmer that can power-box too. But the main thing is he has the legs, feet, and stamina to constanly run down and catch a runner like Floyd and pile drive his ass!!

Posted December 22, 2013 1:46 am 


Old Coot

Floyd won’t fight anybody who could potentially catch up to and swarm him… Floyd is Broner, only with less heart but better running legs.

Posted December 22, 2013 1:41 am 


Thrashnephilim

Amen!

Posted December 22, 2013 1:32 am 


murderman

See im a boxing fan. Not a fan of the boxer. I give all fighters mad props. I box when i was younger and it is by far the hardest sport know to man! I was good enough to play college football. But boxing, is no joke! Props to all fighters!

Posted December 22, 2013 1:31 am 


david d.

Maidana is a legitimate champion at 147lbs…so FMJ should fight him. Nobody beats nobody until they actually fight!

Posted December 22, 2013 1:28 am 


Thrashnephilim

I feel you with both hands.on that bro. I couldn’t be sure of.Pac or maidana to win and bet

Posted December 22, 2013 1:25 am 


Tomato Can

Uhhhgggg… Boxing seems to escape some scribes…

Posted December 22, 2013 1:22 am 


murderman

Oh and floyd vs canelo i had it 8-4 for floyd. Actually thought canelo fought well.

Posted December 22, 2013 1:21 am 


Thrashnephilim

Again, just like Maidana, I think they are worthy and would give him a hell of a fight. I wouldn’t bet either to beat him. Only Golovkin.

Posted December 22, 2013 1:21 am 


Thrashnephilim

I was talking about rounds in the fight with Alvarez you turd.

Posted December 22, 2013 1:19 am 


murderman

No. Pac vs floyd. We can work out figures later. As far as if triple g were to fight floyd we agree. I think triple g would k.o. floyd. You feeling me now?

Posted December 22, 2013 1:19 am 


Thrashnephilim

Largo, do you have blower’s cramp?

Posted December 22, 2013 1:19 am 


Thrashnephilim

It it happens, state what you own of value.. I’ll be glad to take it if it has worth.

Posted December 22, 2013 1:16 am 


Thrashnephilim

Now you’re confusing me here murderman, you’re willing to bet against Golovkin vs FmJ?

Posted December 22, 2013 1:14 am 


Thrashnephilim

Largo, so you’ve not had any fights?

Posted December 22, 2013 1:12 am 


murderman

We can bet something reasonable. Whatever is good for u friend. U gave canelo 6 rds? Are you and cj ross ( the judge that had that fight a draw ) related! Lol

Posted December 22, 2013 1:12 am 


Boartender

Figures that Floyd wants to fight Khan and now Maidana.

I do though think that Matthysse would give Floyd a good fight

Posted December 22, 2013 1:11 am 


Thrashnephilim

I think Alvarez won the last 6 at least

Posted December 22, 2013 1:09 am 


largo

Floyd/Maidana would be Floyd/Gary all over again but just a bit worse…

Posted December 22, 2013 1:08 am 


telfon

Golovkin hasnt fought anyone not to mention he is 160lbs. Floyd has trouble making 154 he always has. GGG needs to fight Canelo, Cotto or Martinez. he is another over hyped fighter. Floyd is really too small to make 154. Manny poses no treat he lost his power he havent Koed anyone in his last 3 bouts. Rios stood right in front of him and he couldnt turn his lights out he didnt dominate bradley and well you all know what Marquez did to him Manny is nothing. Canelo has 10x more dangerous and you see what Floyd did to him…

Posted December 22, 2013 1:08 am 


Andrew

Its funny how many guys think floyd is unbeatable. The guy barely defeated an old Oscar De La Hoyla. He lost the first fight to Castillo and Zab Judah and Canelo Alvarez were very close to him in terms of it being an interesting fight. Maidana will make floyd work and the drama of Marcos possibly landing that one haymaker is always there

Posted December 22, 2013 1:07 am 


Thrashnephilim

Largo, what’s how many fights have you had?

Posted December 22, 2013 1:06 am 


Thrashnephilim

If you agree, what would we be betting on?

Posted December 22, 2013 1:06 am 


Thrashnephilim

Well, what’s your boxing record? How many fights have you had?

Posted December 22, 2013 1:05 am 


Boartender

GGG or Lara

Posted December 22, 2013 1:04 am 


murderman

@ thrashnephilim – in regards to your comment about triple g beating floyd at 154 i agree. Especially if he can boil down to 154 and still fight with the same explosiveness. As for pac vs may all indications appear it may go done it sept. When it does get at me and we can make a wager. Of course ill take floyd. Deal?

Posted December 22, 2013 1:04 am 


largo

& when i say a HUGE mismatch, i mean a HUGE mismatch…

Posted December 22, 2013 1:02 am 


Thrashnephilim

If you make dumb comments based off your own opinions (Largo) you should go $h1t in your hat.

Posted December 22, 2013 1:02 am 


Thrashnephilim

If you want to bet Golovkin/FMJ (not that Floyd will ever fight him), I’d bet you to whatever you are comfortable in losing!!!!

Posted December 22, 2013 1:01 am 


largo

If you don’t consider Floyd/Maidana a huge mismatch, well, you should be posting comments on a cooking site…

Posted December 22, 2013 1:00 am 


Thrashnephilim

A wager for Maidana to win? I never said for sure. I just said he’s a worthy opponent and if he lands good, Floyd eats ropes too.

Posted December 22, 2013 1:00 am 


murderman

@thrashnephilim – so you picking maidana if they fight? Cool! Can we place a wager on that? Ill take floyd all day!!

Posted December 22, 2013 12:58 am 


Thrashnephilim

Murderman, I wanna clear something up for you. Golovkin would for sure walk Floyd down, cut the ring off and knock his lights out! That is for sure!!!!

Posted December 22, 2013 12:56 am 


Thrashnephilim

Murderman, scroll down a little. I commented about that

Posted December 22, 2013 12:50 am 


murderman

You guys said the same shyt bout canelo! Oh floyd will never beat a guy like canelo! Believe me no way in hell maidana is better than canelo! Canelo was undefeated undisputed jm champ! Floyd will easily outclass maidana! Maidana couldnt beat Alexander! Maidana has gotten better. But beat floyd? Get real! Only pac at 147 or triple g at 154 are the only real threats to floyd!

Posted December 22, 2013 12:46 am 


Thrashnephilim

I agree, if Floyd is too good, cut him out and everyone shun him, dot even let him fight.

Posted December 22, 2013 12:43 am 


Andrew

If Money doesn’t fight Pac or Maidana how about Maidana and Pac get it of? Talk about fireworks? That would be an epic battle like Dempsey vs Marciano in 2014!

Posted December 22, 2013 12:35 am 


Thrashnephilim

Tark, who did you pick out of Broner/Maidana?

Posted December 22, 2013 12:34 am 


Anonymous

Floyd is no Boner hadnt fought nobody, Miadana was nothing special it just than Broner was exposed he didnt even let his hands go because he was too afraid of being caught, Anyone ies there right mind would know Marcos was wide open and Broner didnt make him pay Floyd will kill Marcos. Swamers didnt Cotto swam Floyd didnt Oscar do it as well and still ended up loosing the writer is talking out his ass on this one. Soon they will be saying Floyd is scred of Maidana what a joke….

Posted December 22, 2013 12:34 am 


Thrashnephilim

You guys can make the mistake and compare Maidana and Canelo. Canelo is plodding and has to plant and calculate. Maidana is a wrecking ball/destroyer.

Posted December 22, 2013 12:33 am 


TARK

He would fight Maidana at any time but it would be murder…

What’s wrong with Lara??? Pacquiao??? Garcia??? How about somebody who can box, punch, and defend themselves for a change?

Posted December 22, 2013 12:32 am 


Thrashnephilim

This guy will eat ropes just like Broner if he’d gather the guys to sign up to law up against Maidana. Maidana is able to get past that guard..when he does… “It’s goin down, I’m yellin’ timberrrr”.

Posted December 22, 2013 12:29 am 


Andrew

Did you even read it Happyboy? OH wait, you probably can’t read!

Posted December 22, 2013 12:25 am 


Andrew

I have never seen a guy come up with some many excsuses not to fight certain fighters. The fact is, FMJ was lucky to get a gift decision against Castillo and he has made a fortune off of his fraudalent perfect record. The fact is, he is one of the greats of the division but he doesnt deserve to be thought of as number one. As they say, show me an unbeaten fighter and I”ll show you a guy who hasnt fought anybody (exceptions being Marciano and Calzaghe)

Posted December 22, 2013 12:24 am 


Thrashnephilim

With all due respect, Floyd is certainly #1 lb for lb. but personally, ducking Manny all this time I consider a loss to FMJ. And it will be a black eye to his career. Every excuse under the sun. If you pick who you want and don’t fight the highest competitive threats… You are a “paper champ”. Floyd ducked Manny because he knows he would get out worked and outboxed. Can’t have that. So what do you do to avoid it: PEDs, Discredit him cause he’s not on his level or he’s not getting that high of a cut…

Posted December 22, 2013 12:17 am 


Thrashnephilim

I don’t think people consider every fight increases his chance of a steep drop off… He is aging.. He’s not getting better. He’s getting older. Every time he fights at this point, his chances of misfortune rise.

Posted December 22, 2013 12:08 am 


Thrashnephilim

And since nobody is good enough for Floyd,..retire already. Bye!!!

Posted December 21, 2013 11:59 pm 


Thrashnephilim

This guy is not invincible…. He’ll get put on his ass

Posted December 21, 2013 11:58 pm 


Thrashnephilim

Bustajay, “then we can chat”? Umm..*cough, cough*. We’ll just continue to talk, but thanks.

Posted December 21, 2013 11:56 pm 


Andrew

I think Mosley did land a good shot, but it was only one. Plus, I dont belieev he’s as big of a puncher as Maidana. I think Maidana will defeat Floyd Mayweather. So will Manny Pacquaio.

Posted December 21, 2013 11:55 pm 


big moe

First off, while i feel what author is trying to say, floyd is in another level. He totally shocked me the way he came straight at canelo in the 1st round. People thought Floyd would sit back and wait for canelo to make a mistake. Floyd will approach this fight the same way. He will take the fight to maidana forcing him to fight going backwards. Floyd will stand in the pocket like he did with Guererro and Canelo and move when necessary. Floyd wins easy. Alexander made Maidana look average and alex is no way better way better than floyd.

Posted December 21, 2013 11:55 pm 


Jack Dempsey

To” rod ” your wrong !! a tall one punch power hitter is made for Mayweather ,, Floyd likes to fight these kind of guys ,,guys that think they can knock you out with one punch . Mayweather will have trouble with a guy like Marcos Maidana because Maidana throws bombs from all angles regardless of balance or position , Maidana throws about a hundred punches a round ,,Why do you think Mayweather avoided fighting guys like Antonio Margarito and Manny Pacquiao these are guys that throw a hundred punches a round .

Posted December 21, 2013 11:54 pm 


BUSTAJAY

This fight would look a little more sloppier than Floyd on Ortiz.
Maidana still has wide telegraphed punches and Floyd might catch one or two but his skill level is so far beyond Maidana at this point.

Give Maidana a few more fights at 147 and let R Garcia continue to add tools to Maidana then we can chat.

Posted December 21, 2013 11:50 pm 


Thrashnephilim

Prof Konje, same defense… Maidana can land and its heavy when it lands. If styles make a fight, Floyd is better than Broner for sure but way makes you think he can’t land on very similar defense? Maidana’s style is made to crack that defensive style as well. And I can’t say for sure that Floyd’s chin would hold up te way Broner’s did. Yeah, Floyd is better and will be smarter but he won’t avoid everything.. Maidana threw nearly 1000 punches. At that rate, its mathematically impossible for Floyd to not be hit. Maidana will pressure him and be throwing punches. And if Maidana lands solid. I don’t care what your imagination cooked up… Floyd is gonna get wobbled at the very least. Besides, I thought Broner was Floyd’s “boy”. Now he’s staying away from him like the clap.

Posted December 21, 2013 11:49 pm 


Jack Dempsey

Actually a good article . now remember guys Canelo is not a swarmer like Maidana is . Remember Miguel Cotto putting the pressure on Mayweather Floyd wasn’t to comfortable in there with the pressure Cotto was putting in .Marco’s Maidana puts a ton of pressure on his opponents and he throws a lot of punches with bad intentions . Remember Jose Luis Castillo putting the pressure on Mayweather ,i thought Castillo won that fight .

Posted December 21, 2013 11:42 pm 


rod

A swammer will not beat mayweather we have seen it time and time again. The type of fighter who would give someone like floyd hell is a good outfighter. Someone much taller than him with a great jab, reach advantage, one punch power and fast on there feet. This fighter would force floyd, a defensive master to become offensive.

Posted December 21, 2013 11:39 pm 


Ouch

Um, no.

Posted December 21, 2013 11:37 pm 


mikec

The writer said Money chin has never been I will give you one Mosely cracked him and he bounced back in the same round

Posted December 21, 2013 11:36 pm 


Andrew

How is the article bias? Did you guys even read it? I said that this fight would be the second most marketable fights next to Floyd fighting Pac. Who else could Floyd fight that would draw as must interest as him fighting his Lil Brothas Conqueror?

Posted December 21, 2013 11:25 pm 


rhino718

The only reason that this fight would never happen is bc there are fights that would make more moneu than this one. IMO Flyod wins this fight easy. Why do they publish these types of bias articles?

Posted December 21, 2013 11:20 pm 


Master Ken

What is this BS!????

Posted December 21, 2013 11:17 pm 


Caper

I can’t believe some lames on this site…..seriously Marco’s would get totally outclassed not even close. Looking at this scenario with the glass half full the ppv would sell because of all the casual bandwagoners that think Marcos would have a shot at winning. If anything it would be an exciting fight but a brutal one with Floyd actually getting his first stoppage in quite a while.

Posted December 21, 2013 11:12 pm 


Anonymous

Same reason he’s scared of pacman. Uh duh.

Posted December 21, 2013 10:51 pm 


srminimo

Posted December 21, 2013 10:28 pm 


Prof Konje

The writer of this article should look up what Ali said regarding George Foreman’s strength prior to their fight in Africa. Strength and punching power doesn’t mean much if you can’t hit anything. Maidana is made for a guy like Mayweather. Broner is not Mayweather. Maidana will be picked apart just like Canelo. You’re a dreamer.

Posted December 21, 2013 10:26 pm 



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