Great. Do it………Posted December 26, 2013 5:13 pm
Everyone wants a piece of Golovkin, but not when he’s available, funny that, nobody is ducking him the list of challengers is long, no it isn’t!!!Posted December 25, 2013 10:14 pm
“Nobody can deny that GGG is the most feared middleweight in the world” This.Posted December 25, 2013 9:53 pm
I woulld rather see James fight canelo and stay at jr. middleweight.Posted December 25, 2013 5:25 pm
Woop Woop/Sredmond says.., “There are numerous challenges (Martinez, Froch, Ward, Murray, Geale, Soliman etc) that have gone unanswered from the GGG camp.”
That’s total BS… All those guys have fought lesser opponents for less money than they could have made for fighting Golovkin. GGG fights the best opponent available who accepts reasonable terms. That’s his policy because his team knows he’s the best middleweight in the world.
Nobody can deny that GGG is the most feared middleweight in the world — no matter what this idiot Sredmond — who is a full time Klitschko, GGG, and Kovalev detractor, says.Posted December 25, 2013 1:32 pm
Hamster…, NO hedging on my part… I was trying to tell idiots like Sredmond why Floyd wouldn’t shred, paint, smoke, and KO Canelo. Wasn’t going to happen in a million years with this green 23-year-old, because he beat guys like Mosley without even trying.
I pointed out that Canelo had beaten a good boxer in Trout. Even though Saul was outpunched numerically by a fair margin, he produced more power than Trout … Now—what’s interesting—is that Lara not only landed much harder punches on Trout but outpunched AT by a wide margin. Lara would be a much tougher opponent for Floyd.
Saul was always going to lose a D to everyone but Floydiots like Sred.Posted December 25, 2013 1:22 pm
This is another KO win for GGG. Kirkland should now start making funeral arrangementsPosted December 24, 2013 9:29 pm
It is actually true that TARK picked a Floyd UD over Canelo, I remember asking him directly to make a pick before the fight, he gave a spread which wasn`t far off.
About 95% of us picked a Floyd UD though so we won`t go over the top on that. A Floyd UD is the obvious pick no matter who he fights below MW.
What is true however is that TARK spent one line giving the Floyd UD prediction, but multiple multiple posts talking up Canelo to the degree that it looked like serious hedging.Posted December 24, 2013 8:47 pm
I meant, “I said Canelo has a god jab, but nothing like Cotto’s jab”Posted December 24, 2013 5:47 pm
Sredmond.., You’re a liar… I have consistently knocked Khan since he was undefeated… I picked him to beat Kotelnik and Malignaggi because of his speed. He is speedy, and that can give pure boxer’s problems. Judah is speedy too but I’ve always knocked him too.
Speed doesn’t mean a damned thing without complete skills, and I’ve always said Khan lacks defensive and clinching skills… He looks like a neophyte in there at times… I was never big on Khan, but I did say he’s fast.
I was high on Canelo… He has good reflexes, speed, toughness, and power… I said he was a poor attacker.. I said DLH’s strategy of Canelo going with the jab was a BS strategy.. I said Canelo has a god jab, but nothing like Canelo’s jab.. I thought the kid was box office.. He’s a very young kid and has a lot of time to get better… I said Canelo wouldn’t be at his peak for at least another 7 or 8 years.
I did say Saul would go the distance with Floyd and lose the D… You said Floyd would KO the kid… I was more accurate.Posted December 24, 2013 5:44 pm
“Matt’s a true 160-pound contender, truly one of the best in the world, tested Sergio Martinez throughout their fight, was ahead midway through that fight, made it as good a fight as you can make it and ultimately lost on a TKO. But you know we all know that Sergio is one of the best fighters pound-for-pound in the world. Matt gave him everything he could take, and we expect Matt to press Gennady and, frankly, we expect Matt to beat Gennady.”
Golovkin said to ——— “Mr. Dibella told me, ‘Gennady, if you beat Matthew, I promise you a fight with Sergio Martinez.’ [I said] ‘Okay, Mr. Dibella, thank you.’ This [the Macklin fight] is a big step for the best fight.”
Golovkin KO3 Macklin.
DiBella said the knockout reminded him of Roy Jones’ memorable one-shot body punch knockout of Virgil Hill, which caused a broken rib.
I heard that shot,” Lou DiBella, Macklin’s promoter, said. “It sounded like something cracked. That was the hardest body shot possibly I’ve ever seen.”
“That was one of the hardest body shots I’ve seen since that knockout,” DiBella said. “Golovkin is a beast. He’s an animal. This kid is going to demolish people for awhile. In terms of ability, he is an absolute animal. Matt was game and fighting, but Golovkin is super strong. He’s a great fighter. I give him all his props. He needed to show it against a real guy. That was one of the great body shots I’ve ever seen, and I’ve been around this game for 25 years.
DiBella, who also promotes Martinez, said he had no interest in the fight even if Martinez was healthy and ready to go.
“There is no sense,” DiBella said,
“Without a shadow of a doubt, [Golovkin] is definitely the best I’ve ever fought,”
Matthew MacklinPosted December 24, 2013 5:16 pm
Martinez sure as hell cannot be accused of “Ducking Golovkin” who is just facing BUMS at this point… Martinez fought the BEST of the division and got hurt facing STRONG TOP MW’s 2 fights in a row something that GGG refuses to do… He is now discussing trying to get another 154 pounder in the ring in Kirkland…His MO is very transparent!!Posted December 24, 2013 4:48 pm
Bulwayo, I am NOT giving GGG credit for for beating boxers he NEVER faced and I am NOT buying this “Everyone is going out of their way to avoid him thesis” the man is jumping to book bouts with any cadaver he can dig up and thats what his ACTUAL record is!! How EXACTLY do you sell that Golovkin would be “smaller than Canelo” he is certainly the taller fighter and he has been fighting at MW for YEARS… When did he win his Silver Medal? What weight Class was that in ? Correct me if I am wrong but thats MW… You are trying to sell a PHONY scenario where GGG is secretly a 154 pounder since the amateurs… This is NOT a tenable position and it has to be exposed…!Posted December 24, 2013 4:47 pm
Tark, GGG’s KO ratio was compiled against LAMES primarily and look at his last two opponents Stevens and now this Adama? nobodies that he is padding the resume with…Golovkin has a PADDED resume and thats pretty easy to see at this point…Posted December 24, 2013 4:43 pm
Tark, you were selling Canelo as a possible victor over Mayweather you were HUGE on Khan after he stopped Judah then you threw him over when he got stopped again…Show me where you did NOT go for Broner? none of these is a crime but your REVISIONS are you simply cannot take ownership of being WRONG….Posted December 24, 2013 4:41 pm
Sredmond’s views on GGG are complete BS… The guy has the top KO ratio of all active world champions… Guys who gave Sergio Martinez tons fo trouble Golovkin knocked stiff.
It’s as obvious as the snot on your face that Martinez and Quillin are ducking Golovkin.Posted December 24, 2013 4:41 pm
Sredmond says.., “The man was huge on Broner, Canelo and Khan UNTIL they failed him”
Lies on Broner and Khan … and fibbing on Canelo.
I said Canelo vs Mayweather would break all revenue records… It happened… I said Canelo would go the distance with Mayweather… You said Floyd would paint… smoke… shred… and KO Canelo.
I said Maidana’s arching right hand would be a problem for Broner’s shoulder roll… I said it would be a great fight… You said Maidana was too slow for Broner.
I said Khan was a disaster waiting to happen… After his fight with Maidana, which he won, I said Khan was fast, but a good attacker would knock him out — because of his poor inside defense… his lack of clinching skills… and his lack of infighting skills… You said I hyped him after the Judah fight… What I actually said was, “Judah should have been DQ’d for a double foul.”Posted December 24, 2013 4:37 pm
Rios would be beaten to within an inch of his life by Broner, this would be a Pacquiao/Margarito type fight… Broner is WAY too fast and sharp a puncher for a free swinger like Rios it would be another beatdown..I see Rios going down like Gatti did against Floyd Mayweather this is NOT a fight that Rios EVER wants… Totally different class of boxer…
Posted November 19, 2012 7:09 pm
If every guy in boxing could master that style, and hit and don’t get hit with relative impunity they would…I initially questioned Broners ability to consistently execute while fighting like Floyd, but just like a guy learning Tae Kwan Do, he has mastered a mode of combat and has made it his OWN….
Posted November 19, 2012 10:33 am
The only reason you need to see this guy in with Garcia, or JMM ALREADY at age 23 is because he looks so damn unbeatable. He and Donaire are blazing thru fighters in a manner that makes the naysayers uncomfortable… Some guys just have it
Broner is not a guy emulating Mayweather he is a guy dominating like Mayweather… Shane Mosely was used to imitate Floyd in sparring with ODH and ODH lost, and when Shane got in there with the Grandmaster he lost… Broner is the only guy I have seen employ that style to its proper effect in the tradition of Floyd and Toney in a LONG time, his ability to slip, roll and counter with speed are unreal…
Posted November 19, 2012 8:32 am
Anyone who believes that the remaining relevant fighters at 135-140 would be able to best Broner had better 1) be blind 2) be part of the fighters immediate family or entourage 3) Be his promoter… I am loathe to anoint these fighters too soon but Broner is simply a special talent
Posted November 18, 2012 4:55 pm
Broner looked ”so damn unbeatable” against Quintero, De Leon, Mallignaggi, and Maidana. Amazing how much he got hit for someone whose ”’ability to slip, roll and counter with speed are unreal” and who ”has mastered a mode of combat and has made it his OWN ” as well. Bwahaha What a special talent he is. 24-4.
SREDMOND YDKSABPosted December 24, 2013 4:31 pm
Eagle Eyes, AGAIN you are just trying to sell me HYPE, had GGG been achieving these results against a slew of World Class fighters this would be a different conversation but alas he has been banging out a bunch of questionable fighters… Why would I rank him as the “Best MW around” when Ring Magazine and most credible entities have Sergio Martinez as the BEST MW around based on accomplishments NOT conjecture…If you REALLY had confidence in GGG’s future then you would have no issue letting nature take his course…But alas your urgency to have this boxer signed off as the BEST while beating Stevens, Ishida and Adama makes me believe that you may have doubts that you are not discussing…Posted December 24, 2013 3:50 pm
SREDMOND…..Even when you don`t have enough fight results to go on, you can make an assessment of the abilities and skills displayed in relation to the opponents faced.
Floyd Mayweather was Floyd Mayweather before he faced Hernandez. Someone at that time might have watched him and said “This guys fundamentals are out of this world, his speed, his timing, he`s just unbelievable – I think he is going to rule the sport all the way up to WW”.
And what would you have said – probably something like “OKay we have a good young prospect here, but he needs serious vetting before posters on here go crazy annointing him as the next Sugar Ray”.
Now I completely understand the need to caution people about going over the top without adequate evidence, on ESB especially, people go absolutely bananas. But in terms of having a discussion with someone about boxing skills, technique, likely bets I might make etc, it is the guy who actually managed to pick Floyd out and give the technical reasoning who is the one with some novel substance to their thoughts, and that I want to engage with. Not even necessarily agree with, heaven knows I want to slap TARK around the head with a partially decomposed mackeral for some of the stupid things he says, but you can see there is a boxing brain there somewhere behind all of the dementia that it can be interesting to roll ideas around in.
So, feel free to say what people haven`t achieved yet, but you might as well be a talking boxrec. If you can assess something in GGG and tell us why you don`t think he can become no1, then it actually adds something new to the conversation and gives people something to chew on.
Personally I think you have a tendency to conflate style and ability when it comes to fighters with power, in that you equate aggressive stalking with a lack of boxing ability, when in fact it is just one tool in someones kit, and a very useful tool at that – a tool Mayweather used against Mosely once he realised sitting back in his usual style was allowing MOsely the time and comfort to pick shots.Posted December 24, 2013 3:06 pm
Kirkland needs to stay at 154 and fight andrade…anyone remember julian ko letterlough? career light heavy who went up to cw to fight jirov same thing happens here!!kirkland gets broken down by ggg!!kirkland can fight andrade,canelo,k9,guys like that long as stays away from lara he’ll be okayPosted December 24, 2013 2:07 pm
SREDMOND, the only thing amateurish around here is your assessment of fighters. And if you think that me having a conversation with you about why you’re wrong is somehow to be construed as begging, then you clearly have bigger problems than being a poor boxing analyst. So if you can’t see that Golovkin is obviously the best middleweight in the world, I recommend that you place large sums of money on the guys he fights this year. Good luck with that!Posted December 24, 2013 1:18 pm
Golovkin looking for boxers at 154 is OLD he is a MW that fought there during his amateur days, he claims that he can clear things out up till 175, so why not look for BIGGER as opposed to SMALLER opponents?? Besides the LAST thing I can stomach is ANOTHER boxer blaming his underperformances on being “Drained” you GGG nuthuggers would treat that like a “Get out of Jail Free Card” should he lose at 154 to anyone… I have seen this movie before…Posted December 24, 2013 1:18 pm
Bulwayo, that is NOT my post I don’t play those games and you can try and argue with me based on an imposter but its to NO avail… I could care less about what fighters GGG faces as long as they are World Class and credentialed… Sergio Martinez is Argentine, Martin Murray is from the UK I believe and Sturm is German… These are fighters that are either Champs or very relevant to the division GGG has been facing pedestrian boxers and thats just a FACT…. You can argue with a POOR SREDMOND imitator below if you want but alas you are the FOOL…HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!Posted December 24, 2013 1:15 pm
” GGG never fought a slick black fighter ”
Eagle Eyes, WHY is it so important that I go along with your over the top (in my estimation) endorsement of Golovkin? I know that my arguments often cause SERIOUS doubt in the minds of hypemongers but you should be more resolute in your stances as opposed to begging me HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! Again when GGG starts fighting at the World Class level give me a call at this point it seems like he misses the amateurs…Posted December 24, 2013 10:24 am
Bulawayo, I really don’t care that much if fighters “RAP” or “Praise Jesus” what has to be called out in regards to Golovkin is the way people are swearing he is the Top MW out there FALSE, and that everyone is terrified of him and he deserves Mayweather shots and all this cred for beating frankly a number of very suspect opponents… We have heard his fans say,”Wards ducking him” we hear this about EVERY guy peripheral to Golovkin when the truth is that GGG is a guy building a name and he is REALLY playing it safe while doing it… His last 2 opponents were VERY weak choices…Posted December 24, 2013 10:22 am
NO Turbo Hamster what you will NOT get from me is grossly overestimating a boxer based on his wins over sub World Class Comp… Begging me to see GGG as Bernard Hopkins or Marvin Hagler is NOT gonna happen when he is laying the pipe to these C level fighters… I simply don’t have enough to gauge his talent by if he is facing guys who are prohibitive underdogs… We have a TON of poster on ESB that will tell you that Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather cannot fight when both men have HISTORICALLY exemplary accomplishments and brand name fighters on their respective resumes… That said why are you so opposed to me keeping proportion as it pertains to Golovkin who is not beating anybody of NOTE?Posted December 24, 2013 10:18 am
People stealing Screen names AGAIN???… I never talk in 2 word blurbs because then its TOO easy for the dullards on ESB to imitate you…Posted December 24, 2013 10:14 am
Turbo – You need to remember that Soliman was injured in that TKO Mundine loss, which was their 2nd fight. Soliman beat Mundine in their 1st encounter, being that awkward, high volume fighter and got robbed. In their 3rd fight I gave it a draw and was generous to Mundine. Soliman would be an OK test for GGG. At least he gives it everything and will go out on his shield.Posted December 24, 2013 5:41 am
Eagle…if you praise GGG in any way SREDMOND will be all over you. He doesn`t assess skills he is only interested in previous results.
You get nothing from SREDMOND you cannot get from Boxrec.
He has zero analytical abilityPosted December 24, 2013 5:17 am
@Eagle Eyes & @Turb0-H@mster
CheezB, thanks again for the reply. Perhaps I’m being a little harsh on Soliman, I’ll go back over his last few fights and see if my opinion of him changes. I have no doubt though that Golovkin will be too much for him. High volume fighters who like to sit in the pocket, guys like Soliman and Geale, have the wrong style to beat GGG. and it’s not Golovkin’s power or his chin I was thinking about, although those things really do help, I was thinking of his boxing ability. More than his ability to punch, I believe his ability to set up his punches is what makes him special. He is a master of range, and he utilizes his jab to set up probing style attacks, not to injure, but instead to move his opponents guard around to create openings for the real lethal stuff. It usually takes him about a round to figure his man out, but after that he can pretty much move his opponents defences around at will. And all the while he is being mindful of countershots, so he is creating offence and at the same time he is being defensively responsible while he does it. A guy who stands in the pocket with Golovkin quickly realizes that he can’t stay there for long, and neither Soliman nor Geale have the power to prevent Golovkin from walking them down.
Cheezb you need to shut up you greasy kike.Posted December 24, 2013 4:18 am
Cheezb has the beat. Soliman is an awkward mofo, and he DID beat Stiurm, the Germans have been incredibly shady in their treatment of him and refusal to test the B sample.
He was also KO’ed without much trouble by Mundine too though.
He’s the kind of pain in the @ss puzzle that can be solved with some decent speed, counterpunching and power. SOme people match well with him some don`t.
Personally I would pick Murray over him at this point in their careers, but it would be a scrappy, horrible messy fight which Murray wouldn`t come out of with much credit.
GGG would KO Soliman in 2-3 rounds though and receive zero credit for it.Posted December 24, 2013 4:16 am
@TARK – “Murray actually beat Martinez and had him down twice… He beats Soliman all day every day.”
I agree that he pretty much beat Martinez, but what cost him the fight was that he stays behind his guard too much. It’s the same thing that cost him a win vs Sturm.
Don’t get me wrong, Murray is a “better fighter” overall than Soliman (i.e. Soliman wouldn’t do anywhere near as well against Martinez), but if Murray can be glued into a turtle shell as other fighters have shown he can be, then stylistically a massive volume puncher like Soliman is a nightmare for him (in the exact same way that Soliman was a nightmare for Winky Wright).Posted December 24, 2013 4:02 am
….. “Soliman would very clearly UD Murray”
He wouldn’t have a prayer.. Murray actually beat Martinez and had him down twice… He beats Soliman all day every day.Posted December 24, 2013 3:35 am
@Eagle Eyes – “Although I have to say that Soliman isn’t much better than Adama, and if Golovkin had been lined up to fight him we would still be hearing the same criticism we are hearing now. ”
I don’t disagree necessarily with everything you’re saying, but all of it relies on a hell of a lot of “what ifs”, and although it’s possible all of those situations are true, I just find that the probability of that scenario is rather low (and getting lower as Golovkin’s stocks steadily rise).
But heck no, Soliman is better than Adama in just about every sense of the word. Don’t get me wrong, he’s limited, but he is a stylistic nightmare for many fighters. Even Winky Wright struggled with him (as obviously did Sturm). I actually think Soliman would very clearly UD Murray for example (but on the same token, lose handily to say Quillin or Geale), just based on their style mix.
Oh, and that’s not SRedmond posting those blatant racist comments. Someone is just posting under his name. People have decided to label him racist instead of argue with him lately.Posted December 24, 2013 3:13 am
Some random guy
GGG destroys Kirkland, but it should be a fun fight while it lastsPosted December 24, 2013 2:27 am
GGG never fought a slick black prime champion. He’s the champion of the white, not the champion of the world.
Just keepin in in perspective for yall. Peace out.Posted December 24, 2013 2:19 am
SREDMOND, so the real reason you don’t like Golovkin is because he has white skin? Well, that’s a perfectly stupid reason to cheat yourself out of watching a highly entertaining fighter, I guess the joke’s on you. Just keeping it real, Ha.Posted December 24, 2013 1:58 am
Shut up white fool. I can`t stand you pasty faced, no rythm, honkey, cracker a-holes. Just keeping it real…HAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAPosted December 24, 2013 1:21 am
Nishida has balls, he fought both, he blasted away kirtland, and watch him and GGG
Come to think about it porter and GGG both have the same style of many punches attack. Porter block the counter punch or go under.and GGG block the counter, both returned back two punches.
This style is Terry norton. And this style are very hard on boxer. Too busy fight and bound to get hit. If they were to fight,I pick porter as the better boxer will open the door for the harder punched as the fight progress.Posted December 24, 2013 1:12 am
But this is a good test for GGG. Really how he respond to being pressured in returned and how he fight backing up. And also what shape his jaw in. Should be a interesting fight and leading up to Fight night
SREDMOND, ah there it is, I was waiting for you to show your true colors and you did not disappoint. But I guess that spewing misinformed and biased statements is easier than having an enlightening debate. The truth of the matter is that if you want to know if a fighter is actually good or not you will learn to evaluate styles instead of reading records, a technical analysis of a fighters skills is far more informative than names in a win loss column.Posted December 24, 2013 1:00 am
Eagle Eyes, good points but hard to read, space it put, very hard to hold your place condense as that.Posted December 24, 2013 12:56 am
Seen funny but kirkland already had his butt kick by 147# belt holder porter in 8 round of sparring, that from the first round turned into a all out fighting, Porter bleed both nose and conected hardv and james wobbled and landed on his butt. That was days after the nishida lost, he wanted to kick some butt and they came to the gym ask for some sparring time, funny acting like a bully and got his butt kick instead. James is all offense.
Proud African…..I think maybe you need to grow some crops with a high vitamin content in them, it might help your eyesight.
Ask you local warlord if you can grow some carrots.Posted December 24, 2013 12:46 am
Blah blah blah jigs are great….blah blah blah whites can`t fight….blah blah blah, I don`t understand paragraphs,Posted December 24, 2013 12:43 am
SREDMOND, you don’t have to be a huge star to say “come and get it”. Golovkin is a champion, if the top ten middleweights want his belt then they have to be willing to sit down and negotiate with him, if they aren’t willing to agree to fight him then he must take the fights that are available. Like I said, he has an open door for anyone who is serious about arranging a fight. And for the record, I really don’t give a damn if you believe Golovkin’s team or not, Tom Loeffler has a good reputation in the business for being a straight up guy, and having followed this scenario very closely every week for well over a year, I am inclined to believe him, there is evidence out there to confirm this if you want to take the time to find it. And allow me to reiterate, Golovkin doesn’t have the biggest names on his résumé because he is an avoided fighter, the most avoided fighter in the business, and the so called big names are not lining up to take the test. However, all of that begins to change this year, and there is a good chance that Murray and Geale are now ready to take the fight. This suggestion of Kirkland as an opponent is HBO’s idea, Golovkin’s team has made no statement about this, and for you to assume that Golovkin is requesting him is absurd. Golovkin is in training camp right now, he isn’t thinking about anyone other than Adama. And if you’re going to attempt to suggest that Golovkin stacks his record with light middleweights, you’ll need more than 3 guys out of 28! And like I said, two of them are actually a little bigger than Golovkin, so don’t get carried away. But if that kind of thing really bothers you then you must be furious that Martinez is fighting Cotto, and you must despise Canelo, his record is lined with welterweights!Posted December 23, 2013 11:50 pm
Only way to beat ggg is the ward theory aka throw lead jabs and crosses and clinche and hit repeat.even then tho I think golovkin will show his evil side and brawl back.so that’s my two sense however I don’t see this going past 6 or 7 rounds at allPosted December 23, 2013 11:48 pm
GGG is a great hype. Mandingo warrior will knock him silly.
Posted December 23, 2013 2:44 pm
I will agree that if Kirkland lands bombs often and early he could rock GGG.
Kirkland will be out of gas prior to 5th round and maybe out for the night in 4 or less with GGG.
Now if Kirkland can land some of his BIG shots early in rd 1 & 2 and hurt GGG this could become a fight. Only problem is that GGG is smart enough to avoid this situation.Posted December 23, 2013 11:38 pm
Kirkland will get smoked. It would be interesting though. Maybe the first time we’ll see Kirkland ride a bike…Posted December 23, 2013 10:08 pm
Ray Ray…, Would you fight somebody who’s almost certain to knock you out??? Macklin caught Martinez with real good punches and and floored him.. Took him into the 11th.
Mack couldn’t land a thing on GGG… He was getting murdered every minute, and stopped early. GGG is a killer.
Carlos Monzon snuck up on Nino Benvenuti… Benvenuti was a huge favorite and nobody really knew much about Monzon’s strength and punching power.. Everybody knows about GGG.. He’s the biggest hitter in the division since Monzon. But actually, you never saw Monzon or any other middleweight champ take any full sized middleweight challenger out with that kind of liver shot.Posted December 23, 2013 9:42 pm
Kirkland would be the best fighter GGG has faced – not sure I see Kirkland going up to 160 though – he is not a big junior-middlePosted December 23, 2013 8:24 pm
Im agreeing with anonymous…..im over this chump. Hes a paper champ. 31 yrs old, no1 wants 2 fight me? What a croc. He seems 2 have a big enough following meaning cash$$$$ 2 atleast fight legends on there way out? But no
CheezB, if there are other contenders out there that are hungry for a title shot then why don’t they try to get a title shot? I did forget to mention Rubio, but if he had wanted to fight Golovkin in February he could have gotten that fight, it may have to do with the fight not being on HBO, and it may also have to do with Rubio’s high ranking with the WBC, he may simply not wish to jeopardize his shot at the WBC belt. As for Soliman, why should the German drug standards be different from the IBF drug standards? Either way, his fight with Sturm was declared a NC so that does affect his reputation, they probably wanted to let the air clear before they started to push for another big fight. I suspect that HBO would have informed Golovkin’s team that Soliman would not be approved for one of their broadcasts, once Soliman’s team had received word of this there would have been no point in making an offer. If Soliman had really wanted to fight Golovkin he could have gone after the Monte Carlo bout, considering that it wasn’t an HBO fight he may have been able to land it if he really wanted it. Although I have to say that Soliman isn’t much better than Adama, and if Golovkin had been lined up to fight him we would still be hearing the same criticism we are hearing now. Personally, I think Stevens and Rosado are at least as good as Rubio and Soliman, so I don’t think Golovkin did poorly by fighting those guys. And as for my sources, they shall remain hidden, never bite the hand that feeds you.Posted December 23, 2013 7:21 pm
Anonymous – I have a feeling u think almost everyone is a bum. Perhaps even yourself!Posted December 23, 2013 6:40 pm
Kirkland can’t work with any other trainer. Has tried twice, once was a failure and the other lasted a week. He only works well with Wolfe. No need for another trainer and he is what he is. Plain and simple, will not change.Posted December 23, 2013 5:40 pm
People GGG ate stevens left hook and smiled!!!! What the hell do you think kirkland will do against GGG??? This has ggg by stoppage within 6 and yes my money will be on GGG my fellow californian!!!!! Kirkland needs to work on defense and countering.I would switch to john david jackson!!!!Posted December 23, 2013 5:29 pm
What an exciting match – To Hell with April – Get that thing signed and on my TV for Valentine’s Day weekend!Posted December 23, 2013 4:36 pm
The future of boxing is Rigondeaux, Golovkin, M. Garcia, kovalev.Posted December 23, 2013 4:22 pm
Floyd’s Arm Around Manny
MISMATCH! GGG will dismantle Kirkland. Anyone in Kirkland’s camp that is pushing this is very unwise to say the least. Kirkland has no defense. Aaron Pryor would sometimes be defensive.Posted December 23, 2013 4:19 pm
I agree, I think GGG is the real thing. Though he hasn’t fought the top tier yet, he looks to be the real thing.Posted December 23, 2013 4:16 pm
Proud African I have to disagree on this one Triple G is skilled and will be tough for anyone. I would like to see him knock Canelo silly or get a shot at Marinez.Posted December 23, 2013 4:02 pm
@TARK all thanks to the boxing mafia…like Tyson talked about lolPosted December 23, 2013 3:56 pm
RIGHT Proud African!!! Just like he knocked Ishida silly. I noticed Ishida didn’t fare so well with GGG.
Golovkin has a huge problem. Americans largely still control Boxing. You you think Erislandy Lara is going to get a shot at Canelo, Cotto, or Mayweather??? … You’re a little crazy if you do.
Do you think Sergei Kovalev is going to get a shot at Stevenson or Hopkins??? … You’re dreaming if you do.
Do you think Gennady Golovkin is going to get a shot at Martinez or Quillin??? … Not on your life.
American promoters don’t like to see control going to anyone from Europe, Cuba, or Asia for that matter … That’s a big reason you won’t see appropriate fights … They thought Nonito could handle an 11-fight pro, and they had the judges stacked, look at the scores… That’s the only reason Rigondeaux got his shot.Posted December 23, 2013 3:17 pm
GGG is a great hype. Mandingo warrior will knock him silly.Posted December 23, 2013 2:44 pm
easy fight for ggg..kirkland is a street fighter that only knows how to punch and nothing else!!Posted December 23, 2013 2:40 pm
@Eagle Eyes – “As for Soliman, I don’t know if he was suspended for a time after his positive drug test, but I know for certain that he made no offer to Golovkin, and even though he is now calling Golovkin out, it remains to be seen if his team will actually make him an offer.”
Well that statement there has me wondering. For the first part, Soliman’s failed test was only by German standards so he wasn’t banned from fighting anywhere outside of Germany (i.e. there was a mix-up between what Germany considered a banned substance and what the IBF considers a banned substance).
In terms of other better challengers, what about Rubio? He’s sitting around bored waiting for commitments made to him to be honoured. Andy Lee is still around and would likely take the fight (and may want to avenge his amateur loss to Golovkin). Heck, maybe even Korobov would be interested for the same reason, though he seems to still be in “build up” stages even though he’s already 30.
Adama is way, way, way down the list. There are plenty of middleweights out there. I do honestly believe the other champs are ducking Golovkin (and worse for GGG that Sturm got one of the belts again), but there are contenders that are hungry just like Adama, and in many cases, more deserving.Posted December 23, 2013 1:44 pm
If this is the fight Mandingo’s people are trying to make for him, he needs new people. =There must be a bunch of good fight for him that don’t include going up a division to fight probably the hardest hitter in the weigh class, especially when you’ve shown you can be hurt early.Posted December 23, 2013 1:42 pm
These type of fights arent helping GGG as a future HOF.His team needs to put some solid money on the table or move up to fight guys like Ward or Froch…I cant belive real solid fights arent there for him…Posted December 23, 2013 1:40 pm
If GGG is all he is cracked out to be then he needs to prove is by facing Martinez or Kid Chocolate both cracking fights.Posted December 23, 2013 12:23 pm
I like this fight. I said this would be a good fight after Kirkland beat Tapia. If Kirkland makes it out of the 1st round, this could become really entertaining. GGG still wins and wins by KO but will be fun to watch.Posted December 23, 2013 11:20 am
This notion that Golovkin is NOT a MW has to go, he fought at 160 as an amateur and now as a pro, h claims he can body guys up to 175 so what’s the story? He’s tiny Tim? This cannot be sold the mans gonna have to live up to his and his fans claims..Posted December 23, 2013 11:20 am
Macklins the best name on his resume and he is a true MW, that said Golovkins resume is WEAK as he approaches 30 fights and it would not be a big deal if his fans would stop trying to oversell him based on largely pedestrian competition..Posted December 23, 2013 11:18 am
Eagle Eyes, you want me to accept testimonials out of the Golovkin camp as gospel and frankly I have no real reason to do that..Golovkin is NOT some huge star who can sit back and say “come get it” as for Stevens he’s a failed LHW fighter who took a couple years out of the game at one point… His inclusion does not negate the fact that Rosado, Ishida, Ouma and prospectively Kirkland are former 154 pounders and that GGG was hot in the pants to face Mayweather who is more WW than anything…Posted December 23, 2013 11:09 am
SREDMOND, you’re looking at it backwards, Golovkin has an open door for anyone who wants to fight him, the fact that the top ten refuse to take him up on his offer is not Golovkin’s fault. It’s better to look at it this way, if the other top middleweights think they can expose him as some kind of fraud then they need to step up and prove that he’s not all he’s made out to be. Golovkin fights four times a year, if they want to face him he will be available soon.
Kirkland name is being dangled because the smoke is beginning to clear and GGG has not been facing boxers who are on the map… The hype surrounding him has FAR exceeded the names on his resume and people are wising up…Another talented prospect who actually moved up in weight and competition was just defeated (Broner) meanwhile Golovkin has fought FEWER prime World Class competitors than Broner and he’s facing a lot of guys migrating from 154, he has to prove his mettle against better than this to validate these lofty claims..Posted December 23, 2013 9:51 am
Eagle Eyes, I’m not buying the ducking excuse when the guy is getting SMALLER more vulnerable boxers to face him as opposed to bigger fighters with the size and tools to trouble him.. Hand picked opposition of a sub World Class nature do not impress me..Posted December 23, 2013 9:46 am
CheezB, thanks for the reply, and getting deleted completely stinks. Now about Golovkin, it may seem hard to believe but it is true that Adama was the only guy that was available. The criticism I had of Geale and Soliman also extends to the rest of the division really, although some guys get a pass because of injury or prior commitments. Vera is tied up with Chavez right now, Jr. made him wait long enough in the first place, but after the controversial outcome he made Vera a handsome offer for the rematch, so that takes both of those guys out of the picture for a while. As for Soliman, I don’t know if he was suspended for a time after his positive drug test, but I know for certain that he made no offer to Golovkin, and even though he is now calling Golovkin out, it remains to be seen if his team will actually make him an offer. Sturm has always avoided Golovkin and probably always will, and that one is well documented. Barker was busy, and now he may be done for good, so he’s off the list. Murray along with Geale are the two that were truly available, but their excuse is that they were both hoping to get a shot at Barker’s title. And that would have worked out in their favour if Darren hadn’t got injured, because Eddie Hearn came straight out and said that he wouldn’t be looking to match Barker against Golovkin, not anytime soon anyway. N’Dam turned down the Monte Carlo fight, and I think Sergio Mora wants to make sure that if he gets a shot that it will be on HBO. Who does that leave? Well, Martinez isn’t coming back until June, and that’s against Cotto, so he is out of the picture until Autumn at least. And as for Quillin, he says he is calling GGG out but his management team has stated that they won’t even sit down to negotiate with K2 and Golovkin, so how can Quillin be calling him out if they refuse to even take their calls?
Ahhh man, stupid website ditched my response, so try to remember what I wrote…
You’re probably right regarding Murray. The quote I’d read on fightnews from memory made it sound like they were snubbing Murray, but when I google now, quotes from other sources back what you say.
Previously I’ve always complained about how Golovkin was ducked (and he was, and he still is to a degree).
Sredmond, it is only obvious record padding if you are a fool. Golovkin is an avoided fighter, the most avoided fighter in boxing, the reason he has been forced to fight these fringe contenders is because the big names have refused to negotiate with him. As a guy who fights four times a year he has no choice but to take fights that are available to him, and if Stevens and Adama are the only guys with the stones to try their luck, then those are the only fights that are available. Instead of complaining about Golovkin, why don’t you try complaining about the guys who are ducking him?
Cheezb, I think you misheard or misread the statements about K2, or perhaps your source was dubious. Tom Loeffler has never said they wouldn’t work with Murray, he said that is a fight they would like to make, what he said was that if Murray didn’t want to work with them before then why would he (meaning Murray) want to work with them now. They tried to arrange negotiations with Murray’s team but Ricky Hatton had other ideas. Your assumption that K2 is making a safe path for Golovkin is completely false, they have an open door policy for anyone who wants to make them an offer, the question you need to ask is why didn’t Geale and Soliman call out Golovkin when Golovkin was desperately looking for someone for a Feb.1 date in Monte Carlo? K2 waited as long as they could to find someone good, but by the beginning of November no one else was showing any interest other than Adama, they had to give their opponent at least 8 weeks for a proper training camp so they had no choice but to choose Adama. And then, after the fight with Osumanu was announced, low and behold, here comes Geale and Soliman calling out Golovkin, well isn’t that convenient! Now they know that GGG is busy til February they are suddenly filled with so much confidence. If they really felt that way, then why didn’t they make an offer to Golovkin? They had four months after the Macklin fight to at least pick up the phone and talk to Loeffler about it, why didn’t they call him out then? Well lets all hope that after Feb.1 they don’t suddenly silent again.Posted December 23, 2013 7:41 am
Moral to the story is some have been sold a BILL of goods about Golovkin being a threat up to 175, the mans a MW by trade who is mixing with more than his share of Jr MW’s…
Golovkin’s management are at risk of screwing Golovkin’s career.
And now, just in Australia we recently have both Geale and Soliman calling Golovkin out. Soliman would be a second-choice, but Geale is still a very legitimate challenger given that his last loss was hairline close. The fight carries credibility at middleweight and if it means paying the opponent a little more, then so be it… you invest now such that your profile is raised and your economic value rises in future fights.
K2 are trying to take a safe road to a Martinez showdown late in 2014, but to me, it’s unnecessary given Golovkin’s obvious talent, and potentially even more risky given Martinez is looking to be on his last legs.
K2 need to have confidence in the guy and when a top contender wants a fight, unleash GGG on them and show the world what he is (or isn’t) capable of.Posted December 23, 2013 6:45 am
Hey happy boy is woop woop your boyfriend . Their is no hype about Golovkin , he won a silver medal at the olympics and dominated most decent fighters and ko them . Ward got no intrest of fighting him , ward addmit that . First thing their is no reason for Golovkin to move up in weight to fight super middleweight champ Ward , Golovkin can make a lot of money at his weight class and their is plenty of exciting fights to make and the best thing for him right now is keep being active no matter who he fights , that will force higher quality fighters to want to fight Golovkin , because the more active tv exposure and with more exciting fights can make a fighter a house hold name or at least the fighter at that weight class the pay per view star .Posted December 23, 2013 6:33 am
Yeah u r a joke woop woop , u r just talking out of your ass, u don’t know jack about boxing , I don’t see you at other boxing topics but u seem to be in tripple G topic 100% of the time and you r obsessed of hating Golovkin . FBI should investigate ur sorry hateful ass , u, might be a future stalker and sniper . The one who hates is the one who masterbates . What’s wrong you caught your girlfriend playing with herself while watching Golovkin fight .Posted December 23, 2013 6:05 am
Maybe Wolf sees Kirkland heading to the crack den. Best make some money off him before he smokes it. Tapia was a punch bag for most of his fight, the ref and his corner were really brave letting him take an unnecessary beating. The kid will not recover from that beating. Kirkland will take a short swift bit** slapping from GGG.Posted December 23, 2013 5:48 am
Happyboy, the lesser threats get the opportunity to fight if the greater threats are occupied. That’s just the way it goes, the big names want a lot of money to fight Golovkin, but fringe contenders won’t turn down a title shot because they don’t have the luxury of assuming they will ever get another one. And besides, 300,000 thousand is a lot of money for most fighters, and a fight with Golovkin certainly represents the biggest payday of their careers. If GGG is in need of an opponent and none of the names will fight him, then they have to make an offer to the next best available option and so on down the line until they find someone. That’s the problem with being avoided, you can only fight the guys that are willing to fight you.Posted December 23, 2013 5:07 am
Fight Ward GGG and you’ll be GOING!GOING!GONE!hypePosted December 23, 2013 4:43 am
funny how all the real threats are scared yet lesser threats are willing to fight this GGG.Posted December 23, 2013 4:41 am
IF GGG wants to KEEP facing 154 lbers then he needs to MAN UP and face Lara.Posted December 23, 2013 3:50 am
Lets put GGG with another face first plodder without any skills but power. Lets have Mayweather vs GGG at 154lbs.Posted December 23, 2013 2:51 am
GGG taking on a Jnr Middle, LOL, did anyone see this coming? Hahaha, some more padding for an over the top fraudulent boxing resume. Kirkland is proven to get hurt early and has chin issues. He will be small and slow. Can anyone say, smoke and mirrors? Can anyone say, all aboard the hype train? Choooooo Chooooooo!!!!! The facts are stacking up and the blind and brainless still hail this man as the No.1 Middle. Step 1 – Fight someone your own size. Step 2 – Fight a contender or champion. What a Joke!!!Posted December 23, 2013 2:39 am
Only real fight for triple g is at 168 vs froch or ward. Nobody at 154 or 160 beat triple g period. However i think ward will beat him.Posted December 23, 2013 2:35 am
what happen to james kirkland fighting demetrius andrade and triple g fighting martin murray i mean murray keep saying he faced triple g this is a good matchup but kirkland should just stay at 154 and ggg stay at 160 no point in this matchup but like yall said if nobody at 160 wont to face ggg and kirkland is the only one willing to then why not but it alot of fights at 154 for kirkland to be in of course if he offer ggg he take it for the money if james had a iron chin this would proably be ggg hardest fight but since he dont it kinda hard to pick him in this fight but ggg is hittable as well and it seem like he cant fight to well on the backfoot if james can back him up a lil bit he might have some success but ggg just a beast tho he just better all around then kirkland every aspect it be good while it last thoPosted December 23, 2013 2:20 am
Complete mismatch but it would be a fun fight. Pac vs bradley 2 ggg vs Kirkland and provo vs rios now that’s a ppv not the crap they put out in china. Two garanteed kos and we will see if bradley could get a legitimate win agaisnt pedquaio or if pedquiao is really back by beating bradleyPosted December 23, 2013 2:01 am
Golovkin will knock Kirkland out. Ishida knocked Kirkland out in the very first round. Golovkin knocked Ishida through the ropes and out cold in the third round.Posted December 23, 2013 1:49 am
GGG would seriously hurt Kirkland. Anyone with any boxing sense knows this. Kirkland is a on dimensional punching bag that’s tough. We need better fights than this.Posted December 23, 2013 1:27 am
Kirkland’s pressure will be too much, GGG has never fought anyone like KirklandPosted December 23, 2013 12:52 am
If this fight happens, it won’t be a brawl. Golovkin doesnt do mindless brawls, but he will outbox the hell out of him, control him with his jab, and then set up his own offence at the same time he is disrupting Kirkland’s offence. The result will be a very painful night for Kirkland.Posted December 23, 2013 12:36 am
If the other champions won’t fight you what can you do??? You can only fight the willing.
That’s what Larry Holmes did when Ali ducked him to fight Leon Stinks… He fought Ken Norton for the stripped title… Then who did Larry fight in his 1st defense??? Who else??? Alfredo Evangelista.Posted December 23, 2013 12:31 am
Kirkland would not likely make it past the 1st round.Posted December 23, 2013 12:23 am
Who says it’s possible? Such info must always be attributed to someone. Anyhow it’s a banging fight. Kirkland is back on track and his shoulder seems to be fine. At his best it would be a helluva rumble. GGG wins though.Posted December 22, 2013 11:50 pm
I guess Golovkins gonna prove he can really make 154???Posted December 22, 2013 11:49 pm
“Hopefully this turns out to be a case of when cherry picks go wrong”….lol…Posted December 22, 2013 11:45 pm
In my opinion, THIS would be A GREAT FIGHT! I’m going with Kirkland in 7! Kirkland trains like Mayweather, honing a more DESTRUCTIVE outcome, which alligns with his strengths! If I was a bettin’ man Id go with Kirkland! Ive followed this guy BEFORE he went to jail and found a very dedicated pugilist in the making! I’d be SURPRISED if he lost against GGG! I’d PAY to SEE this!! CAN’T WAIT!!!Posted December 22, 2013 11:42 pm
Wow imagine ggg vs Kirkland, even rios vs provodnikov on HBO !Posted December 22, 2013 11:40 pm
GGG in 7 rounds.Posted December 22, 2013 11:25 pm
Talent wise, GGG could be able to stop Kirkland, but who knows.Posted December 22, 2013 11:03 pm
Now that would be a nice fight and a test for both men.Posted December 22, 2013 11:02 pm
a fight at 157 is fair
If he can beat Kirkland who beat Angulo who basically drew with Lara who got Floyd running scared.Posted December 22, 2013 10:45 pm
If Kirkland thinks his haymakers will work against GGG good luck. GGG in 4Posted December 22, 2013 10:42 pm
Let’s see now GGG is bigger, stronger, faster, smarter, and much better than Kirkland. Krikland’s only chance is to throw a haymaker for the knockout… He’s has as much chance at that as I do at winning the lottery…Posted December 22, 2013 10:10 pm
I like this!Posted December 22, 2013 9:46 pm
Where are the true middleweights with enough balls to face this guy??
why? they have one common opponent-Ishida. mismatchPosted December 22, 2013 9:27 pm
GGG will dismantle him…too easy bit I would still like to see itPosted December 22, 2013 9:22 pm
The Mad Scientist
Hopefully this turns out to be a case of when cherry picks go wrongPosted December 22, 2013 9:17 pm
GGG by stoppage, Kirkland only knows how to fight one way and he will be too brave for his own goodPosted December 22, 2013 8:56 pm
Another guy stepping up 2 face GGG……Posted December 22, 2013 8:52 pm
Triple g vs kirkland will be just like triple g vs stevens. Same result!Posted December 22, 2013 8:46 pm
GG in 3 .. Or less ……….Posted December 22, 2013 8:45 pm