pacmanophobia a mayweather disease their ball shrinking just to hear PACMAN in interview …self proclaimed the greatest DUCKER……SCAREDPosted January 15, 2014 10:36 am
Guerrero is a dog… Floyd did much better with Canelo and DLH.
Those were the 1 and 2 highest grossing fights of ALL TIME!!!!
How troubling is that??? … May-Pac would be another record-breaker.Posted December 28, 2013 5:50 pm
According to Nevada State Athletic Commission records, all five of Mayweather’s fights between the start of 2009 and mid-2013 (against Juan Manuel Marquez, Shane Mosley, Victor Ortiz, Miguel Cotto, and Robert Guerrero) were contested in front of EMPTY seats. Even with 1,459 complimentary tickets being given away, there were 139 EMPTY seats for Mayweather-Guerrero. More troubling were credible reports that Mayweather-Guerrero registered only 850,000 pay-per-view buysPosted December 28, 2013 12:36 am
–“What’s this fight going to do for my legacy?” Floyd asked before squaring off against Ricky Hatton two-and-a-half years ago. “I got no fake answer. It’s not going to do nothing for my legacy. I’m fighting because I’m a business man. I’m like Bob Barker. ‘Come on down.’ If the price is right, let’s make it happen.”
- I think the money would be good with Pacquioa, dont ya?Posted December 28, 2013 12:34 am
Another excuse.Posted December 27, 2013 4:04 pm
Gallinas y trannys de Puelto Lico
Who Cares- Kudos!Posted December 26, 2013 11:46 pm
Kudos, Whocares! When has a great fighter ever cared about keeping money from a rival promoter? PBF is simply making up another excuse. If he were a “great” fighter he would want to test himself against another “great” fighter. Instead, PBF wants to make more money. Thus, he will chose to fight Khan and, owing to Khan’s British fan base, he will stage a very lucrative fight in England. The fight will be very good for his bank account but, hopefully, it will be rembered for what it is – a shrewd business decision by a lesser boxer who refused to fight the best fighters in their prime or, in Pacquaio’s case, ever. I mean the thought of selecting Khan (or Maidana) over Pacquaio is completely ridiculous. It strips all credence from PBF and shows him for what he is – a bullsh@t artist with a yellow streak.Posted December 26, 2013 11:15 pm
They don’t want to admit it. Little floyd is their surrogate daddy.Posted December 26, 2013 5:04 pm
Let me ask you guys, why does a boxer (Mayweather), who is allegedly so much better than another (Pac) and makes so much more money, repeated mock and make fun of that other boxer? Is it shear poor character, jealousy or is it fear? Each one of these reasons are embarrassing. Poor character is a turn off, no matter how good you are. Only die hard fans (PEEJ, Sredmond) will dismiss it. Jealousy is also embarrassing. Why jealous, insecure? Not enough recognition? Too boring and knows it? The third reason is IMO the most likely one, fear. Afraid of losing what defines his entire legacy, the “0″. Once that is gone, his accomplishments, in his eyes, are all reduced to very little. It’s basically the fear to lose all he has except, including the money making potential and life style. All in all, it has become embarrassing, the mocking of another fighter and coming up with another excuse or condition every other week…
Well said TARK….read what boxing writers dont write about….please google : Sonoran News-boxing promoter check fraud case……please boxing fans OPEN YOUR EYES!!!!! Boxers do the hard work in the ring and outside the ring there are people doing hard work to STEAL the boxers money.Peace to all .Posted December 26, 2013 5:46 am
I actually hate so see De La Hoya having so much power in Boxing…
His mentor was sleaze bag Bob Arum.. He learned the sleazy ways of Arum.. I don’t see reform in Boxing until De La Hoya gets as old as Bob Arum and falls over dead… The next guy who comes in after King, Arum, and Oscar is bound to be clean and reform minded.
The sport will be cleaned up and operating for the fans by 2060.Posted December 26, 2013 12:52 am
Oscar let laziness take over because he “thought” the judges were fixed in his favor. Right man won that nightPosted December 25, 2013 8:13 pm
Forget Floydie, Manny doesn’t need FMJ. He can make a lot of money with different fighters. FMJ is just small potatoe and his scared to get beaten like his Bro. Broneir.Posted December 25, 2013 6:20 pm
Почему эта обезьяна диктует условия ?
Peej- you are wrong again. Judges got it right. Oscar lose because he for some obvious reason he didn’t throw any punches in the last few rounds when he was way ahead of the fight. Nothing no punch even a simple jab. He gave it away. It’s to obvious that it was a fixed! I tell you man Floyd and GBP are doing it WWE style.Posted December 25, 2013 5:06 pm
Still wondering how it was a fixed fight. That is ridiculous. You have no proof just a theory. Oscar clearly won the fight. And the judges robbed him, if this was a fixed fight then how come there was no rematch. Why would the fight of been fixed?Posted December 25, 2013 4:56 pm
Peej- it maybe top rank who promoted it but it was Oscars so obviosly fixed fight.Posted December 25, 2013 4:39 pm
Another main reason to have promoters is to have the clout to win bids on promotional rights. So when Manny’s contract is up in 2014, Arum could bid on the promotional rights to the fight under the Pacqiauo Promotions table.Posted December 25, 2013 3:34 pm
schaefer is so afraid floyd may fight pac as all want and ditch the other pak that no one wants to see!Posted December 25, 2013 3:26 pm
Oscar vs Tito was promoted by Top Rank and Don King. Oscar clearly won that fight. So not sure what went on there. But once again Top Rank and King are the 2 factors in that fight. What are you talking about glove size? Floyd has fought all his fights with 8oz gloves except for when he fights at 154 which then the gloves are 10oz. Ring size, well if he is the draw he will be able to get the ring size he wants. If you are a Floyd hater then just be that, don’t make stuff upPosted December 25, 2013 2:54 pm
Peej- you’re wrong. GBP is made on fixed fights. Go watch the replay or dela-Hoya vs. Trinidad. Then tell me what’s the deal there. I’m telling you Floyd cherry picked opponents comes with extra advantages for Floyd, ring size, glove size, weight or just take a dive goes all in favor of Floyd cherry picking fighters he can buy.Posted December 25, 2013 2:22 pm
But none of his fights are fixed. Top Rank has a history of fixing fights. Golden Boy nor Floyd has any history of that. To get the biggest pay day of his career yeah he needs Floyd. If he is satisfied with what he is getting then by all means keep Top Rank. And all things point to that he is.Posted December 25, 2013 2:17 pm
Manny don’t need to leave Arum to get a big payday. Manny don’t need Mayweather like a desperate boxer who needs a retirement money so just Mayweather can dictate everything on his favor. Floyd fights for money and money can buy a lot of fix fight.Posted December 25, 2013 2:00 pm
Hidalgo, the thing is if he wasn’t with Top Rank he could get the Floyd fight. He doesn’t have to sign with TMT but just doesn’t have to be with Top Rank. Now the tax thing that is a whole different thing. As that one agency already released, Koncz has major issues and is one of the main reasons for his tax issues. And to make it worse his promoter used to be a tax lawyer. He shouldn’t have any issues. So something is up.Posted December 25, 2013 1:29 pm
“I love Manny but he is NOW a stooge fighting for Arum…”
That’s the most oxymoronic statement I’ve ever read. Manny isn’t a “stooge” for anyone. Even if he dumped Arum and signed with Mayweather Promotions, he’d still be having tax problems, and he still wouldn’t be any better with his money.
But if he did sign with TMT, then he really would be a stooge. Floyd has been trying to control Manny for years. If Manny fought under the Mayweather Promotions banner, Floyd would jack him up. Floyd already said that Manny would have to fight other fights before he’d give him a fight so to me that has “You will be my stooge” written all over it.
You don’t love Manny at all SRedmond. You can hardly say a word about him without including negative comments as well. Everyone on ESB knows you’re on the Mayweather bandwagon only. Where your concerned if it ain’t about Mayweather, it ain’t anything. Pretty sad.Posted December 25, 2013 12:34 pm
You know its funny how Dan Rafel and List of writers/Journalist are torn between their culture;race and upbringing. U see these writers are fans but they write with no respest for the history of the sweet science. You see if anybody have is respect for the history of the game they know all fighter leave with their head between their legs. They know no matter what i say but they history has shown that a african american is and always was the superior boxing or the student of the game. The world has change and latins/hispanic/asian descent/africans/cubans/pr are all players in todays boxing culture and they are doing what theybare told to do. However there is one figher who is different promoters dont own him networks have to pay him and journalist dont move him. ROBINSON TRy to do what Mayweather was doing but he mismanage his money. Ali the same. Leonard was not as great as mayweather. Did not take care of his body..Mayweather has taken brand and treated it like the movie industry;music industry; wall street and boxing writers ;and racist; people with no knowlege of boxing all get on these boxing sites and write the same thing about Mayweather. Look pac great but he has the the same promoter Mayweather ten year ago. Mayweather leave and know he grossing 500 million dollars in this fight game when it all said a done. But these writer are angry because their writing are not making or breaking the TBE. Pac should not and will not get the Mayweather who own the music business who own hollllywood ;and Bill Gates there is something Mayweather demeanor that tell u no noise stay aways from noise fools hate. Mayweather has taken this business to a new level. While history has shown him all the greats failure this great warrior has look at the real blue print to sucess and is now writing it. Quitely maybe the next Mayweather who comes along will follow the greatest boxer who ever live blue print.Posted December 25, 2013 11:01 am
The fight won’t happen as long as Arum is in the picture. He has made so many excuses for Pac and company. No need to enter negotiations again with him again. Just a waste of time.Posted December 25, 2013 10:20 am
Why is Floyd afraid of Pacman? Pacman is a Blown Up Welterweight and an Over the Hill Fighter. The fight wont happen as long as Floyd is afraid of Pacman.Posted December 25, 2013 9:44 am
Mayweather and now Schaefer are scared of Pac.I cant believe one man can instill fear in to so many people.Posted December 25, 2013 5:21 am
Floyd doesnt need excuses 2 fight a guy with a higher ranking than Rios?Posted December 25, 2013 1:54 am
more floyd excuses….
floyd who?Posted December 24, 2013 10:47 pm
Why do people keep bringing up Manny’s name when Floyd is definitely way better and has more skeeeellzz. he does not have to face Manny because he already beat Marquez and Marquez beat Manny 4 times and got robbed. Manny also lost to Bradley and just beat a lightweight who is slower than Heinz Ketchup or molasses. Besides, Rios lost to Richard Abril but got a decision. He lost to Alvarado which proves he is not on Floyd’s level.
So now both Floyd and Manny are indebted to the IRS? One thing that some of you are forgetting though is the fact that Manny can subtract from his U.S. 1040 any taxes he owes to the Philippines. Being a politician has big advantages here and I believe Manny has been extremely crafty to make sure his money goes to his interest in the poor and tropical biodiversity.Posted December 24, 2013 8:15 pm
Who is Scahfer?Posted December 24, 2013 7:58 pm
Bob arum is my secret lover my one and only I will never leave him behind …Floyd no want fightPosted December 24, 2013 7:27 pm
It’s should be a crime every time Floyd fights! Boring moron doesn’t equal his skills to what his making! It should be a crime!Posted December 24, 2013 7:26 pm
Now on a lighter and more relevant note Merry Christmas Peej to you and your loved ones. A prayer and Gods peace on all of you gentlemen this evening. Peace and strength gents.Posted December 24, 2013 7:08 pm
Cont. Trotting out Arum.the boogie man and all the other back and forth rhetoric sounds truly childish and borderline idol worshipping.Posted December 24, 2013 7:05 pm
Good evening men. The crooked Arum? Yeah I don’t think.he’s the cleanest fellow walking this earth but then who is Shaefer? Mr.Clean incarnate?Peej my friend I respect some of your view points but this is TODAY. NOT THREE/FOUR years ago. Trotting out the tired blame arum, blame Pacquiao has gone very,very stale. You like Junior. That’s obvious. But enough is enough. All these issues were resolved awhile ago if ypu choose to remember. Today is what counts. Pacquiao has a long time ago giventhe green light on ANYTHING your guy demands. This is old newnewsPosted December 24, 2013 7:03 pm
It looks like Mayweather is avoiding Pacquiao.Posted December 24, 2013 6:15 pm
Pretty Boy Clyde
Mayweather is very wary of Pacquiao. Floyd is talented, but Manny is a warrior.Posted December 24, 2013 6:13 pm
Floyd’s too scared to prove he’s not scared!Posted December 24, 2013 5:41 pm
The floydiots look pretty stupd right now.Posted December 24, 2013 5:40 pm
Duckweather is so shook he won’t even fight a past his prime Pacquiao.Posted December 24, 2013 5:39 pm
Good luck with your legacy, Mayweather. But I promise you it won’t be what you hoped for. Thanks to you, the name Pacquiao will forever be entwined with yours. And not in a way that’s flattering to you.Posted December 24, 2013 5:38 pm
The lengths Pac and company will go to stay away from Floyd, Terrible.Posted December 24, 2013 5:25 pm
The lengths Floyd will go to try to pretend he’s not scared of Pacman.Posted December 24, 2013 5:01 pm
Floyds LEGACY will be ruined!Posted December 24, 2013 5:00 pm
If I have trouble sleeping tonight, I’ll put on a Floyd fight. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz….Posted December 24, 2013 5:00 pm
May fans are over presented on this website and in the real world are a minority, May will look like the coward that he is.Posted December 24, 2013 4:58 pm
Floyds legal troubles are NOT getting him KOed by Juan Manuel Marquez nor do they have his purses being Garnished Hecdog… I love Manny but he is NOW a stooge fighting for Arum, The IRS and the Phillipine government while Floyd is drowning in CASH because he runs the show…Mayweather is not running for President so his background is irrelevant to his status and accomplishments… The fans have spoken with thier wallets and he has spoken with his FISTSPosted December 24, 2013 4:01 pm
Floyd would tag PAC same offense attack all night. Chess.Posted December 24, 2013 2:58 pm
They can’t see that mmendozaPosted December 24, 2013 2:53 pm
Yeah I know, Pac and company has had a million excuses on why not to sign the contract for Floyd. Looks like Floyd is just being smart and not even wasting time with trying to negotiate with the crooked Arum.Posted December 24, 2013 2:47 pm
Another excuse. You wimps have a million of them.Posted December 24, 2013 2:45 pm
He is not gonna work with Top Rank. So there is no sweetening the pot. With the way Pacs numbers has looked ever since the Mosley fight he will not get 50/50 nor 60/40. Coming off a decision and an KO loss and then coming back against Rios where the PPV numbers bombed. Just not gonna happen. They had opportunities to take the fight but yet Arum came out with many excuses on why the fight couldn’t be made at that point.Posted December 24, 2013 2:38 pm
When it’s all said and done, this is the Only MEGA Fight that would bring boxing fans, excitement in epic proportions — much like the ancient Greeks folklore. Mayweather brings his chess game approach to boxing having an unparalled genius among his contemporaries. Pacquiao brings his fan-pleasing approach to boxing where he chooses to lay it all out and the whole world knows how extremely vulnerable Pacquiao has always been even when he’s winning on points. Yes, even with the KO loss to Marques, he’s still an exciting boxer to watch. For fans who like to watch both boxers, seeing them in the ring facing each other is PPV bonanza and like a lottery winning ticket — who cares if Pacquiao’s PPV value is lower? Them two facing each other in the ring will more than make up for that for the fans of course. They may never ever fight, and that’s an even more fundamentally, increasingly, and exponentially REAL possibility regardless of any reasons already heard or yet to be stated. Merry Christmas to everyone.Posted December 24, 2013 2:26 pm
When Paquiao vs Mayweather was once announced. Mayweather was the underdog in Vegas that is when he pulled out the fight. He knows he is the loser on paper and people will bet against him.Posted December 24, 2013 2:23 pm
Peej, I think his point is that Floyd has made enough money already and that he should be more concerned at this point about his legacy. Obviously Floyd should get better than 50 – 50 but he should sweeten the pot to draw in Pacquio.Posted December 24, 2013 2:22 pm
There will be no 50/50 split. You are basically saying in every sport there needs to be a 50/50 split. Should the bench players make as much as Lebron even though they are not as good? Floyd out sells back so he will take a monster share of the purse. Especially after 490 thousand PPV buysPosted December 24, 2013 2:04 pm
merry Christmas Jim rich. you are spot on.Posted December 24, 2013 1:53 pm
Pac and company will be the ones remember for coming up with excuses on why they didn’t make the biggest money fight ever. I think Pac may still have that same cut that prevented it from happening 2 years agoPosted December 24, 2013 1:49 pm
Sorry but they have tried negotiating several times. Arum comes up with reasons for the fight not happening. Sorry but no point in going back to the negotiation table. Arum hasn’t changed. They did it 4 times already. No need to try a 5th time. That is not an excuse that is fact.Posted December 24, 2013 1:47 pm
pac vs broner. lets see if pac can ko broner and ruin his career once and for all. better then waiting around for excuses floyd. plus floyd will get his feelings hurt.Posted December 24, 2013 1:44 pm
Pac does not need May, he can make money fighting Bradley, Provodnikov and other Arum fighters. Money is not everything. In history, except for hardcore May fans, who are over presented on this website and in the real world are a minority, May will look like the coward that he is. Once he loses, his bubble will burst and he will be made fun off; he knows that, therefore does everything to hold onto his “0″. Even if he doesn’t lose in the ring, he will go to jail eventually or go bankrupt. It’s just nature of trash, it goes to trash…;)Posted December 24, 2013 1:43 pm
pac should ko broner and ruin floyds boyfriendPosted December 24, 2013 1:41 pm
PEEJ, what about a 5/95 split and on top Mayweather gets to f@ck Pac’s wife?Posted December 24, 2013 1:36 pm
how do you know if you dont negotiate. failed excuse. try again.Posted December 24, 2013 1:35 pm
They made all the excuses before hand. Floyd no longer wants to deal with them. No point in starting up again because we already know Top Rank will not accept 70/30 and that is what the split will be if not worse. They could of made the fight years ago but didn’t.Posted December 24, 2013 1:22 pm
If I have trouble sleeping tonight, I’ll put on a Floyd fight. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzPosted December 24, 2013 1:16 pm
well floyd is using his dislike for a promo outfit as an excuse. simple as that. haymon could work with top rank and even roger mayweather said it. no excuses. the drug testing thing could be legitimate but now it cant be used. if top rank did scared floyd wrong they would have been sued.Posted December 24, 2013 1:12 pm
Floyd is really good and will go down in history as such probably ending 50 and 0. Basically he has 4 more fights to make a statement that he deserves to be mentioned in the same breathe as the all time greats. It’s his choice if he wants to do this but it probably means that he needs to fight the following in his last 4 fights: Pacquio, Golovkin, Martinez, and Bradley. If he does this then it proves that he had a dominate run and beat the best from 130-160 during his illustrious career. No one else would be able to claim such a feat.Posted December 24, 2013 1:09 pm
I’m sure he will do the testing. But problem is Floyd doesn’t want Top Rank in the promotion at all. They dislike Top Rank. How come Top Rank doesn’t try to work with Golden Boy for any other fights? That would help with this fight.Posted December 24, 2013 1:09 pm
even then i doubt it. maybe pac should knock out broner and end his career. floyd will cryPosted December 24, 2013 1:07 pm
Floyd will fight Pac if Pac: leaves Top Rank, is woken up at 3 am for 30 consecutive days for drug testing, takes only 20% of the purse, and can’t use his left hand in a fight against Floyd more than 5 times per round.Posted December 24, 2013 1:04 pm
it doesnt matter why. the reason is pac did the testing and will do the testing. move on from thatPosted December 24, 2013 12:59 pm
let haymon, shaefer deal with debuef. arum will get his cut either way. so what other excuse will floyd usePosted December 24, 2013 12:58 pm
If Schaefer is insisting on this why don’t both parties bring in a neutral promoter.Fair is fair. Im sure Floyd and Pac wont mind so long as they get paid. By the way Merry Christmas to all.Posted December 24, 2013 12:57 pm
So why did Pac ask Rios to do the random testing since he was so unwilling to do it with Floyd?Posted December 24, 2013 12:55 pm
What difference does it make to anyone who Pacqs manager is.Floyd will only be in the ring with Manny….Has he given any actual reason why this is so important..He has already shown how foolish his excuse of Manny taking peds and his lamentable level playing field was…Bleating on about cleaning up boxing. he’s hardly helping making it the noble artPosted December 24, 2013 12:48 pm
Exactly all those excuses he came up with where just that because he proved the testing was not in issue in his last fight. As for going to jail, he didn’t go till June so the fight in May was very doable. Since all that stuff went down he is done dealing with Arum because he knows Arum is just gonna do his own thing. All Pac has to do is keep Arum out of the negotiations. If Arum really wants the fight to happen he can still take his cut from Pacs purse.Posted December 24, 2013 12:46 pm
needles is not an issue as the fight with rios proved. floyd was/did go to jail so a fight around that time was a no go. asking for 50-50 was appropriate at that time. now im sure they would take 30-70. the stadium thing is stupid. all those excuses are in the past now. the new excuses are leave arum and you can get the fight. the ppv numbers are bad. tax trouble. excuses are wearing thin.Posted December 24, 2013 12:40 pm
there have been some very fishy decisions when arum is involved,maybe this is the reason mayweather is balking.Posted December 24, 2013 12:19 pm
Actually I think your hate for Floyd blinds you. All those excuses came from Arum not Floyd.Posted December 24, 2013 12:17 pm
your man love blinds youPosted December 24, 2013 12:02 pm
Deepwater here are the excuses. Scared of needles, makes me weak, not gonna fight on that date, Floyd doesn’t call the shots, Floyd is going to jail in May fight can’t be made, Pac has a cut that won’t be healed in time, not enough time to promote the fight, there needs to be a stadium built. Did I miss any. What is Floyds excuse, take random testing, now that I sell more than you I get a bigger piece of the pie. This proves it was mostly Arums fault for the fight not being made.Posted December 24, 2013 12:00 pm
It’s not Haymon who’s preventing the welterweight fight that the whole world wants to see. Or Golden Boy’s Richard Schaefer or Oscar De La Hoya, or Manny Pacquiao, Arum, HBO’s Ken Hershman, Showtime’s Stephen Espinoza or anyone else other than Floyd Mayweather himself.
Mayweather’s position is reminiscent of heavyweight “champions” back in Jack Johnson’s time who wouldn’t let a black man fight for their title. That wasn’t really about race. It was about their fear of Johnson.
Floyd’s latest utterances are proof that it’s never been about PEDs or the money split or the timing. The truth is that the man who calls himself “Money” and the best of all time isn’t so interested in making the most money when he doesn’t like the risks, and he sees Pacquiao’s combination of speed, power, and ability too great a risk to his health and undefeated record.
Good luck with your legacy, Mayweather. But I promise you it won’t be what you hoped for. Thanks to you, the name Pacquiao will forever be entwined with yours. And not in a way that’s flattering to you.Posted December 24, 2013 11:52 am
styles make fights. period.Posted December 24, 2013 11:50 am
al haymon runs floyd, floyd even says itPosted December 24, 2013 11:49 am
Funny how everybody said he wouldn’t ever fight Canelo and once he does and beats him all of a sudden Canelo was no longer any good for Floyd.Posted December 24, 2013 11:47 am
@ this slow Losing patience!
But its slow people like this guy with no understanding about boxing can try to write something with no logic at all about Mayweather. Just hateful and slow. A fighter with 5 losses been knockout three times still making comparison be a 80million dollar fighter and a 15 mill dollar fighter. U see Pac numbers are coming down if JMM doesnot take the fight. A fighter who created option for himself for a fighter who does not. Pac is beloved and is nice but he is control and trust me who do u think smart people respect more. A man who find and blaze his path or a yes man who follow orders. Who career would you want if you were not so racist. Mayweather a no brainer. You see talking heads are jealous because one guy controls his distiny other ask what direction he should go. There was another slow writer saying scared or ducking but what about praising a man who stands on principles Mayweather said Arum gets no more money off his sweat u see greatness never forgets Mayweather had to pay 1 million to walk away now the same people wants to make money off him..No now everything is on mayweather terms is this what we go to scholol for to think.Posted December 24, 2013 11:37 am
Pac should of taken the first deal and the last deal. He decided not to.Posted December 24, 2013 11:36 am
manny pacquiao have inflicted financial damage to himself by sticking & trusting arum believing everything he says , pacquiao lacks business experience , he lost the decision to bradly because of arum & still not aware of arums game so he can keep him under his promotion deal , pacquiao is so gullible its not funny i really feel sorry for him in a wayPosted December 24, 2013 11:33 am
Some random guy
The fight will never happen. Duckweather is so shook he won’t even fight a past his prime PacquiaoPosted December 24, 2013 11:33 am
Actually Floyds runs himself. Al Haymon just gets him the most money as he does for all of his fighters.Posted December 24, 2013 11:15 am
al haymon runs floydsPosted December 24, 2013 11:10 am
Look at all the fights PAC could have. Ffs become a fee agentPosted December 24, 2013 10:43 am
Well a handshake deal pretty much holds up which is why they had to pay Top Rank. I am more concentrating on Arum and why Pac can’t run his own career. He is the reason why the Floyd fight never came off.Posted December 24, 2013 10:33 am
he had a handshake deal when he picked up the suitcase full of cash. you would shake the guys hand when they gave you a few mill in a case too. stop thinking about pac and concentrate on this action from the bloated swiss banker that gives dlh trannysPosted December 24, 2013 10:24 am
Didn’t Pac have a contract with Golden Boy and then after signed a contract with Top Rank. Which was the reason Top Rank had to pay Golden Boy a percentage of Pacs purse.Posted December 24, 2013 10:14 am
rival promoters cant interfere with current contracts. against the law you fat Swiss banker tranny banging scum.Posted December 24, 2013 10:08 am
Actually the pactoids look pretty stupid right now for passing up on the drug test and passing up on 40mil. Instead he listened to his crooked promoter in Arum and now has passed up the biggest pay day of his career. Not good.Posted December 24, 2013 9:56 am
Well, I guess that settles the debate on who was ducking who and why the fight hadn’t happened. It settles blood test debates as well. The floydiots look pretty stupd right now. Of course everyone knows this but them, as they are here trying to make new arguments to bend the truth. It is a very sad state in the sport when “boxing fans” rather defend a prima donna, a self-appoint GOAT, rather than force him to take a fight by hitting him where it hurts. His pocket. In reality Floyd doesn’t need to fight pac as long as his legion of zombies are dispensing with the cash to go see his fight it watch him on PPV. If all of the sudden Mayweather started doing Bradley-like PPV numbers he would then fight Pacquiao in a phone booth if need be. The truth is that Mayweather saw what happened to his clone , albeit inferior one, when he went up against a good presure fighter. He is scared to death of this happening to him. Adrien Broner is no Floyd Maywheater, but Marcos Maidana is not Manny Pacquiao either.Posted December 24, 2013 9:45 am
LAME PBF excuses, man your HERO is so freaking disappointing!!! Enough is enough, FLOMOS keep coming up with excuses, YOU FIGHT THE BEST OUT THERE – THAT’S IT!
This is what separates FLOYD for being a GOAT, tainted legacy!!!
Has nothing to do with taxes, testing, or managers, etc….just sign the DOTTED LINEPosted December 24, 2013 9:43 am
same old bullsh#t from the yanks.Posted December 24, 2013 9:36 am
Yeah. Floyd should have stayed in the wrestling ring all those years ago. It suited himPosted December 24, 2013 8:25 am
they can’t fix the fight with pacman, that’s why. floyd’s fight’s are fixed and fake fights just to get money. greed all the way.Posted December 24, 2013 7:52 am
I am just tired of Excuses… Excuses…. Mr. Scuff let your boy fight Pacman.Posted December 24, 2013 7:41 am
Havoc your dreaming…..look up toprank guys than GBP I think you will find 1 is far more stacked than the other and it aint toprank.Posted December 24, 2013 7:01 am
OK. I have had enough.Floyds LEGACY will be ruined! He will always be remembered as a great defensive boring boxer who only does just enough in his dull fights to get the W without taking any risks. Who breaks ppv records thanks to his opponents followers and the few hypnotized Mayweather fans. I agree with Floyd he will almost certainly lose to Pacman if he fought him next but i will respect him a lot more as a man. He could not keep up with pacs work rate and pac would pretty much walk through what Floyd has to offer. Floyd will get hurt. This he does not want no matter how much money he could earn. He needs to prove me wrong and the rest of the world. Maybe then he could have his smug face on the belt beside Ali and Jo. Again dont hate him just want to see the fight. Thats all.Posted December 24, 2013 6:31 am
I know Floyds rich and very happy to continue to con his followers but surely it must bug him to be seen as chicken. Or is he really that thick skinned?Posted December 24, 2013 5:59 am
Floyd only takes on an almost certain victory. Alverez for example looks good on his record being the bigger,undefeated boxer but was just a poor version of Mayweather with his counterpunching throw 10 punches a round approach. Difference is he is slow on feet and over-hyped.Mathew Hatton took him the distance for crying out loud. Pac has the tools.They are both elite boxers although one chooses to fight a lot more for a more entertaining fight and is also an 8 weight division legend! Floyd can change everyones perception of him if he fights Pac next and only then can he become what Pac already is.Posted December 24, 2013 5:45 am
Arums top rank is bigger than Floyd and GBP promotion combine! For some reason Floyd don’t want to deal with Top Rank because there is no way he can dictate Top rank on what to do. Floyd can’t push Top rank any where he wants. If I’m Pacman I will stay loyal to Top Rank until the end of his career. The hell with boring cherry picker Floyd.Posted December 24, 2013 5:37 am
Floyds scared.His uncles scared.His daddy too.The entire camp and all the hypnotized Floyd fans that continue to make him rich. You all need to grow some. Snap out of it. Smell the roses. See it for what it is. FEAR!Posted December 24, 2013 5:25 am
When your intellect is screwed you start to think it was Manny Pacquiao who made the 2 weeks Blood/Urine testing concession. When it was initially Mayweather. Then Arum said there was no 2 weeks cut-off date offered to them. Pacquiao acts dumb and let Arum run things, but his fans are just plain moronic.Posted December 24, 2013 4:16 am
Largo my friend you are preaching to the choir. I once asked a priest at my school. If god loved blacks and Hispanic so much why would he bring missionaries with rifles to force us to accept him, coz god loved us so much. Pacturds are a religious bunch. Who are too stupid to realise that Manny cherry picked more than Floyd. Bunch of idiots. They deserve him. But guess what when he walks/talks like Ali they won’t give a hoot.Posted December 24, 2013 3:27 am
Floyd beats Pac a 100 times outta 100 times. If the fight is made, Floyd ‘d stop Pac in the tail end of the fight; this is the second time I challenge anybody to tell me what Pac can realistically do that Floyd couldn’t counter…at this juncture, Floyd beats Manny with one hand tied behind his back & without a training camp. This fight is a mismatch.Posted December 24, 2013 2:52 am
He turned down 40 million but owes 68 mil in taxes and fights Marquez for 3 million what kind of idiot does that? Old Coot you a pactard. I bet you cried when Marquez left him coma tosed, You love Manny more than Junee. I bet he wished he had that 40 now and he is such a great and such a star why arent his fights selling and why is he broke?Posted December 24, 2013 2:43 am
Lost 2 out of 3, put 2 sleep no titles…..enough said.Posted December 24, 2013 2:33 am
PERIOD!… EXCLAMATION POINT!!!Posted December 24, 2013 2:23 am
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Duckweather sending out his promoter to duck a fight with PacquiaoPosted December 24, 2013 2:23 am
YOU GOTTA FIGHT to beat Manny!Posted December 24, 2013 2:22 am
You can’t win by your gullible fans’ opinions, FLOYD!!Posted December 24, 2013 2:22 am
Mansworld: You can say your best and your worst… Floyd’s too scared to prove he’s not scared!Posted December 24, 2013 2:21 am
Manny wont b leaving Arum until that contract is done yr ending 2014. I remember another guy tried 2 leave Arum b4 his contract expired……..Didnt work out very well 4 Gamboa? How could a guy b in the toughest top 2 guys at WW when hes had 1 fight against a punching bag in 12 months. B4 hand getting KTFO. Points loss b4 that, zero titles. Cant call that top 2. Manny will lose in 2014, its a shame but all gd things come 2 an end……and that end is very near. Bradley rematch could b tough 4 manny, he wont and cant change, a few slight changes from Bradley could b dangerous.Posted December 24, 2013 2:20 am
*Drug lord Pac-man*
Pacquiao says, “who moved my drugs from atop the fridge???”Posted December 24, 2013 2:17 am
Old Coon do the math who s rich and who is broke? Who needs this fight and who doesnt? Manny needs this fight its his only change to make some real money. Unfortunatley he let Arum screw him remember Manny Owes the IRS 68 million is back taxes. No one wants to deal with Arum not even Marquez. Guys are in line to fight Floyd Manny on the other hands fight dont even sell. His only chance to make some serious money is to fight Floyd and the only way that will happen if Arum is not in the picture. Baradley is in the same boat hs is undefeated and can land a big bout. Marum is a greedy dude and he keeps all his fighter in house and broke. There are alot of big fights out there for Manny. Floyd Garcia Maidana, and even Mallinagi but we will never see them him or Bradley fight any of these guys. No one can work with Arum. Richard Schaffer,Oscar even 50 cent tried to make the fight happen with Manny and he turned it down, Now he is broke and his fights dont sell no one whats to see him beat up bums like Rios. Manny needs to dith Arum and save whats left of his short careerPosted December 24, 2013 2:14 am
Murderman: No he’s just using that as another stall tactic because he calculates Manny will never leave Arum. I betcha If Manny surprisingly left Arum, Floyd will THEN demand he sign with TMT to fight Floyd… Again knowing Manny will especially never do that. The lengths Floyd will go to try to pretend he’s not scared of Pacman.Posted December 24, 2013 1:34 am
One thing is for certain, Void is extremely afraid of Pac and always will be. Styles make fights and Pac is the wrong style for Void. Think about it……..how many excuses has Void made for not fighting Pac? If Pac were to leave Arum, Void would just make up another excuse.
Void is not a great fighter, not as long as he runs from Pac. So, Pac is a drug addict?! Pac has never tested positive for PEDS………….Void might make fun of Pac, but Void is the one who should be made fun of, he runs from Pac like the chicken in the Rocky movie. I would pay for this fight and so would everyone else, record money, yet Void is still afraid to fight Pac, Void’s fear is not just a small one, it’s huge! If Void were to fight Pac, and made big money, which he would, the biggest payday in his entire career, he would make the fans happy, so who cares if Pac is with Arum as long as he makes the big bucks. Everyone knows that Void is afraid of Pac and I mean very afraid………How many excuses has Void made over the years? Anyone know?Posted December 24, 2013 1:30 am
Is it me? Or is floyd trying to get pac to leave arum so he can sign him? That what be some wild shyt! Pac on the money team! Wow!Posted December 24, 2013 1:26 am
Mafia is a type of organized crime syndicate that primarily practices protection racketeering. Floyd wants his mafia to have total control of the fight. Floyd claims he’s his own promoter but he knows that he cant get racketeered nor PED passed without paying a big chunk of “his” money to Haymon and OscarPosted December 24, 2013 1:20 am
Bubba: How you figure?… They are both STILL the two toughest to beat at WW. As long as that is true, There is no expiration… Maybe 3 years from now!Posted December 24, 2013 1:15 am
I agree with Bubba – It’s a non-issue at this point.Posted December 24, 2013 12:54 am
This fight is years too late….get over it!……Its like trying to rekindle interest in Evander Holyfield vs Roy Jones Jr.Posted December 24, 2013 12:43 am
This is just like how Floyd exploited Manny’s fears about bloodtesting after the Morales loss. Now, he knows Manny won’t leave Arum, so THAT’s the new excuse! Umm ‘reason’. LOL!!Posted December 24, 2013 12:30 am
Really? He gotta dump Arum! Another ducking tactic!Posted December 24, 2013 12:24 am
Hidalgo, I believe you could be right… As unfortunate as it is, Mayweather’s in the drivers seat right now. He’s in a position to do just about whatever he wants. Meanwhile Pacquiao is fighting on another network with a different promotional team, and a recent brutal ko loss… But as you know, in boxing things have a funny way of changing with one good or bad fight.Posted December 24, 2013 12:14 am
And if Manny really wants the fight and believe he can win, he’ll do what Cotto did, leave Arum and demand the fight, period. Pacquiao had a chance to make the fight happen back in 09. Excuses: Pac’s afraid of needles. There isn’t a stadium big enough to fill the fight fans, need a year to build one. Pac deserves 50/50 and nothing less. Lies: I’ll agree to testing with a 14 day cutoff. No make it an 8 day cutoff. Freddie Roach: “Pacquiao NEVER AGREED to take any test.”Posted December 24, 2013 12:11 am
Tomato Can, I believe that Pac could sign with any other promoter than Golden Boy or Mayweather Promotions and Mayweather still wouldn’t fight him.Posted December 24, 2013 12:07 am
“Nobody who actually wants to fight takes such an absurd position.”
Right on, Fight Aficionado. Apparently Mayweather has never heard the saying, “Where there’s a will there’s a way.” Because he certainly has proven that he has no will to fight Manny Pacquiao. Now he’s made the supreme excuse that is guaranteed to keep him from facing Pacquiao until Pacquiao retires. Why? Because very likely Pac will chose to stay with Bob Arum. Bob has made Manny a lot of money and they have a good working relationship. You don’t just up and walk away from a good thing without an even better reason for doing so.Posted December 24, 2013 12:05 am
Nope, Arum said Manny was squeamish and didn’t like needles… One of many of Arum’s false statements over the past few years.Posted December 24, 2013 12:01 am
Pac probably won’t leave Arum. But if he looks closely at the other’s that did, he just might realize there’s a chance he’ll be better off at this point. Both Mayweather and Oscar did better than ever after parting ways with Top Rank. Cotto seems to be doing okay now that he’s a free agent. So, Pac could do well too, although it’s still a risky move.Posted December 23, 2013 11:59 pm
HHLondon, for the ga-zillionth time, Manny Pacquiao NEVER said he was afraid of needles. Never.Posted December 23, 2013 11:55 pm
Excuse me, the last sentence of my last post should have read:
“In reality it appears as though Floyd really doesn’t want to face Manny Pacquiao because he knows Pacquiao is not going to make that concession.”Posted December 23, 2013 11:54 pm
“Mayweathers stance on Arum predates Pacquiao and guys cannot get that thru their heads…”
Oh I think everyone get’s it SRedmond, what they don’t get is why Mayweather didn’t use this reason as his only excuse for not fighting Manny Pacquiao over the last four years. It’s the only he’s ever needed, but instead he made up a bunch of other ones.
Regardless, as I’ve always said, if Mayweather and Pacquiao truly wanted to make this fight happen, it would have already happened. The whole boxing world was crazy for this fight back when Pac was at the top of his game, but they wouldn’t make the fight happen. But they didn’t, they haven’t and it appears that once again, they won’t.
But let’s be real about this, do you actually believe that Floyd will pass up an opportunity to make the biggest purse of his life just because he doesn’t want to deal with Bob Arum? If you say yes, then any contrary comments you made about Pac not accepting the $40 million dollar offer from Mayweather two years ago are worthless. If you say no, then you have to use the same reasoning you did when Pac turned down the $40 mil.
Floyd’s main goal is to control everyone he fights. He wants to be the boss, he wants to set the rules, he wants to run the show. If he can’t do that he won’t make a fight. Well, he can’t do that with Pac and Arum so that’s why he and Shaefer are making a big deal out of this now.
In reality it appears as though Floyd really doesn’t want to face Manny Pacquiao.Posted December 23, 2013 11:51 pm
Pac/Bradley is most likely going to be the next Top Rank fight featuring Pacquiao. Then what?Posted December 23, 2013 11:49 pm
Mayweather could be looked at as ducking Pacqluiao, at this point. But really if pac was playing chess, he has only his king and a couple of pawns left, while Mayweather still has all his pieces… Mayweather’s sitting on a huge Showtime contract, with 4 fights left, with or without Pacquiao. Meanwhile things are getting thin over at top rank for Pacquiao.Posted December 23, 2013 11:45 pm
“He would have the opportunity to fight guys like Saul “Canelo” Alvarez…”
Jeff Sorby, considering how many articles you contribute to ESB you should well know that Manny Pacquiao will never fight Alvarez because the lowest weight Alvarez can go is as a jr. middleweight and Pac hasn’t fought in that division except once, and has made it clear that he will never fight as a jr. middleweight again. And there’s no way in hell that Alvarez can make welterweight.Posted December 23, 2013 11:43 pm
Mayweathers stance on Arum predates Pacquiao and guys cannot get that thru their heads… Floyd has his chief rival on the ropes and he KNOWs the ONLY superfight that TR has is vs HIM….He leaves them in the breeze they begin to WITHER… Marquez is not taking the bait and Bradley is NOT a draw…. Its Mayweather time “Mc Hammer Can’t Touch this Plays in the background” minus the genie costumes..Posted December 23, 2013 11:26 pm
What happened to Bob’s 80000 seater stadium he was building in Vegas for the fight?
That was their last excuse on top of few others, ie needles, 2-week cut-off testing period ….
Mayweather doesn’t and never has needed Pacquiao to make bank!
Pacquiao and Bob have no where to go … Two losers just fought each other in China FFS and done less than a UFC PPV card?????
Pacquiao just got “leveled” by an old JMM then beat up a heavy bag (Mexican Clottey) in Rios …….Posted December 23, 2013 11:10 pm
Ha ha ha no…..really. Mayweather vs pac wouldnt even be close. Manny pathetic pawing jab, mixed with his size length, lack of defence or footwork. The way he lunges 4ward with that straight left, lack of head movement after 4 rounds, lack of stamina in the 2nd half of fights would spell big big trouble. Floyd would toy with him, would b a total mismatch. JMM lead right hit Manny at will in there 4 fights…..imagine wat Floyds would do? Manny will lose 2014 b4 he’s a free agent. No big pay day 4 manny….Posted December 23, 2013 11:07 pm
Floyd’s hard line position on something that’s none of his business is his way of saying he’ll never fight Pac. Nobody who actually wants to fight takes such an absurd position. So he’s ducking Pac as he always has and there’s no need for further discussion.Posted December 23, 2013 10:58 pm