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Rich

I would be interested to know who are the fighters besides Pacq that Floyd has avoided…….I would also be interested what ESB means by “slow down you are posting to fast” and do they know them selves ……

Posted December 28, 2013 4:03 pm 


Yo MOMMA

–“What’s this fight going to do for my legacy?” Floyd asked before squaring off against Ricky Hatton two-and-a-half years ago. “I got no fake answer. It’s not going to do nothing for my legacy. I’m fighting because I’m a business man. I’m like Bob Barker. ‘Come on down.’ If the price is right, let’s make it happen.”

- I think the money would be good with Pacquioa, dont ya?

Posted December 28, 2013 12:33 am 


mn

Im bored of this side show, can someone wake me up if this fight gets made which I doubt it ever will, the governing bodies are a sham for allowing this charade to continue.

Posted December 27, 2013 7:35 pm 


Hec Dog

Te Tumbo my friend, Manny would annihilate Guerrero, Canelo, Khan, Bradly, Marquez, Broner and Porter. Floyd and marquez are running as fast as they can, and notice the rest never call out Manny Pacquiao. Manny calls them out. Too much power, speed, and all around skills. Next guy that fights Manny is in for a beating, trust me. Manny is the best.

Posted December 27, 2013 6:40 pm 


moonshineman

@D

How can Floyd be bad for Boxing? You never would have gotten the Garcia-Matthysse fight if they didn’t get the major exposure of a May card. Plus, Floyd is training a lot of up and comers in his gym. He’s getting he promotional biz off the ground because he’s only going to fight about 5 more times. He wants 2015 feature his last fight. Then he’s thinking about running for mayor of Vegas. He has a few ideas for ramping up interest in the city.

If Pac can be congressman and Vitali the Prez, why not May for Mayor?
Posted December 27, 2013 2:02 pm

little floyd is chicken chit.

Posted December 27, 2013 3:27 pm 


D

How can Floyd be bad for Boxing? You never would have gotten the Garcia-Matthysse fight if they didn’t get the major exposure of a May card. Plus, Floyd is training a lot of up and comers in his gym. He’s getting he promotional biz off the ground because he’s only going to fight about 5 more times. He wants 2015 feature his last fight. Then he’s thinking about running for mayor of Vegas. He has a few ideas for ramping up interest in the city.

If Pac can be congressman and Vitali the Prez, why not May for Mayor?

Posted December 27, 2013 2:02 pm 


te tumbo

“If you guys who love Pacquiao and hate Mayweather think Pacquiao is so great — why doesn’t Pacquiao fight Guerrero and see what happens? Why doesn’t Pacquiao fight Alvarez and see what happens?” Bullseye. common opponents. that Mayweather once again defeated First, but since Pacquiao* is always stalling for time between serious showdowns anyway, why doesn’t he face Canelo and/or Guerrero so that fight-fans can see what happens? . . . withOut catchweights. 147lbs and 154lbs, respectively. let’s See what happens(?).

Posted December 27, 2013 1:19 pm 


The Cahmp

All these debates will end if Floyd will fight Manny but Floyd doesn’t want to fight so Floyd’s the losser

Posted December 27, 2013 12:54 pm 


Hec Dog

Mayweather is bad for boxing I agree

Posted December 27, 2013 12:48 pm 


Love-the-Sport

It would be impossible to be dumber than this author. You are an idiot.

Pacquiao is a great fighter.

But Pacquiao is also a fighter who lost 2 out of his last 3 fights and nearly got knocked into retirement by an elite but short fighter (Marquez). That elite but short fighter also lost a one-sided fight to Bradley — who nobody really thinks is a top 5 pound for pound fighter.

Paquiao comes back with a good — but not great — win against a stationary fighter (Rios) who came up in weight. No knockdowns. No knockouts. Not much going on but lots of pot-shotting against a stationary fighter.

So, how exactly is all of this impressive by comparison to Floyd Mayweather who dominated Canelo Alvarez and dominated Robert Guerrero.

If you guys who love Pacquiao and hate Mayweather think Pacquiao is so great — why doesn’t Pacquiao fight Guerrero and see what happens? Why doesn’t Pacquiao fight Alvarez and see what happens?

Posted December 27, 2013 10:53 am 


The Prince

Of course Reni doesn’t want Floyd to win fighter of the year. It’s no secret he’s one of the strongest Anti-Mayweather writers on the website.

Posted December 27, 2013 7:34 am 


Gallinas y trannys de Puelto Lico

PE- its called dirty boxing. Elbows, knees, lowblows like puerto rican fighters when they get desperate for the win. They start throwing tantrums on the floor like Broner.

Posted December 26, 2013 11:35 pm 


moonshineman

Little floyd is bad for boxing.

Posted December 26, 2013 5:44 pm 


Hec Dog

I forgot Adonis Stevenson. Fighter Of The Year should go to either Adonis Stevenson or Sergey Kovalev.

Posted December 26, 2013 5:33 pm 


T-Bag

i could feel the tears of the pacturd author literally pouring out of my computer screen as I read this whiny BS, I put a cup down to capture them cause nothing tastes better than then the tears of a butthurt pacturd trying to salvage one more anti mayweather propaganda campaign.

Posted December 26, 2013 5:25 pm 


TARK

Kovalev should get FOTY… He crushed everyone like grapes.

Posted December 26, 2013 5:14 pm 


TARK

Hamster…, You’re nuts if you think Floyd lost to Castillo.. Castillo lost on all cards in both fights.. In the first fight he lost by 4 and 5 points on each card and he had a torn rotator cuff injury to contend with.

In the 2nd fight a “Hit Squad” of judges were brought in to rob Floyd… One of the judges was Ken Morita, a guy who had Mike Tyson leading all the way against Buster Douglas in a fight where Tyson won only one round out of 10 … It was the worst judging anybody had ever seen. Even worse than anything C.J. Ross ever produced.

Posted December 26, 2013 5:09 pm 


Hec Dog

Sergey Kovalev, GGG, Guillermo Rigondeaux, Danny Garcia, Timothy Bradley, Mikey Garcia, Andre Ward and Manny Pacquiao. All exceed expectations, are true role models for youth, treat people right, show true sportsmanship and represent the sport of boxing as true gentlemen. Their records speak for themselves as does their quality of opposition. These are true candidates for Fighter Of The year for 2013. I hope you can agree.

Posted December 26, 2013 4:57 pm 


moonshineman

Little floyd “Chicken of the Year”.

Posted December 26, 2013 4:57 pm 


Anonymous

My Lord Redmond, get a life

Posted December 26, 2013 4:32 pm 


Mark

PEEJ and SREDMOND got proper mauled by Man Machine. :-D

Posted December 26, 2013 4:27 pm 


Anonymous

GGG Great White Hype!!! WHO HAS HE BEAT?

Posted December 26, 2013 3:51 pm 


Turb0-H@mster

SREDMOND……You aren`t arguing with a real hamster

Posted December 26, 2013 3:43 pm 


nemo

GGG is my choice for fighter of the year. I hate it when people say he should fight the top middle weights because he needs to prove himself. This is pure BS. None of the so called top mw will fight him because they fear him. I sure hope one of them will step up and fight this guy. I really feel he is by far the best mw period. He is a great fighter and extremely exciting to watch.

Posted December 26, 2013 2:39 pm 


Cyber-H@mster

SREDMOND, I do believe my post. Floyd Mayweather is a great boxer, but he will NEVER be regarded as a true legend by most fans because he cherry picks and avoids the more dangerous fights, doesn’t engage in exciting bouts (a boring boxer), doesn’t fight prime boxers at their true weight, has a trash-talking immature image etc. His ’0′ is cosmetic. He really lost to Castillo. Floyd should box Manny Pacquiao for the sake of his legacy. SREDMOND, your Floyd man-love needs taking in hand too, coz even Floyd would be laughing at you defending him so much!! Floyd’s bouts are more boring than than nearly all of Wladimir’s HW fights as well!

Posted December 26, 2013 2:21 pm 


SREDMOND

CyberHamster, you don’t even believe your OWN post… Mayweather is a LEGEND as we speak and has been for quite awhile now.. GAME, SET, MATCH… Castillo is the last stronghold of the TRULY desperate poster who wants that “0″ they say does not matter wiped off his record but alas that foolishness is not gonna stand… FMJ is 45-0 having defeated Castillo 2x for good measure and never coming close to losing again… Sorry Bro you had to be told!

Posted December 26, 2013 1:56 pm 


SREDMOND

WhoCares, you say “poor character is a turnoff” a mans character is NOT a static concept and everyone does not judge others in the same manner… ALOT of people treat Vitali Klitschko like he walks on water YET we have the FACT that as an amateur (around 24 or so) he was BUSTED using a PED and kicked off the 96 Ukranian Olympic Team (FACT) not a rumor or common ESB conjecture…. I don’t know what Klits has done as a pro and since I have not heard him test dirty I will accept that incident as what it is.. Meanwhile this is a matter directly relevant to the sport! I watched the fight game with Jim Lampley who is on a network that Floyd had a semi contentious split with and he was forced to admit that Floyd had been a pioneer in testing and has had he and his opponents tested for YEARS and NOW look at the rest of the sport starting to catchup… NOT liking Mayweathers personal life is fine but trying to sell others on disavowing respect for him as a boxer is VERY Tea Party and Totalitarian of you…. At the end of the day the public buys Floyd for the show he puts on INSIDE and OUTSIDE the ring, either deal with it or man up an stop watching him its pathetic…

Posted December 26, 2013 1:53 pm 


Rich

Well said, Cyber-H@mster!

Posted December 26, 2013 1:50 pm 


Cyber-H@mster

That little ‘Asian midget’ certainly makes Floyd wary of fighting him…Mayweather is insecure about his legacy, hence the ‘attention’ he’s giving Manny at the moment. Floyd Mayweather will never be a true legend the way he has cherry-picked. Lost to Castillo too…

Posted December 26, 2013 1:48 pm 


SREDMOND

WhoCares, I don’t believe for a second that Mayweather is “scared of Pacquiao” thats an utterly simplistic argument that negates WAYYYY too much information as it pertains to the running feud between FMJ and Top Rank as well as GBP and Top Rank as well as HBO and Showtime… AGAIN how many STRONG soundbites have we heard from Pac Man on these topics? He always defers to his promoter and shows little emotion or delivers a strong response… The onus is placed on FMJ because he is the more vocal and crafty with the English Language.. So the answer is NO I don’t think Floyd is “Scared of Pac” I think he is earning a TON of $$$$ without putting a nickel in his HATED former promoters pocket and he his enjoying Manny and Arum getting boxed in as thier PPV numbers decline while his RISE….

Posted December 26, 2013 1:47 pm 


Kid Blast

Ugh. racism is alive and well on ESB–AT LEAST ON THIS THREAD IT IS.

Posted December 26, 2013 1:44 pm 


Whocares

Sredmond, Mayweather is not mocking Pac to make him more famous, he is mocking him to avoid fighting him. You and Te Tumbo ignored my post, does he or does he not fear Pac? Why would he state he is afraid to get hurt, has a family to take care of? The whole drug testing story was a scam and obviously had no merit because he had to shut up and settle and pay Manny for his trial of cowardess character assassination.

Posted December 26, 2013 1:40 pm 


Mag

This writer is so wrapped up in his Floyd hate he doesn’t even mention who he actually thinks should get FOTY year lol… To the writer -Who should get fighter of the year if not Mayweather????

Posted December 26, 2013 1:06 pm 


Kid Blast

black/brown vs. white = green

Posted December 26, 2013 12:38 pm 


SREDMOND

Floyd Mayweather was NOT “soundly whipped by Castillo” there is ALWAYS the crazy overestimations when the FAVORITE has a tougher than expected fight… Castillo lost a close bout then he got DUSTED, he is NOW OLD news and very washed up meanwhile FMJ is still kicking you know whats and taking names…

Posted December 26, 2013 11:38 am 


SREDMOND

Mayweather, mocking or cajoling another fighter is GOOD for that fighter he immediately is seen by MILLIONS and his profile raised temporarily… NO ONE can intelligently argue with Floyd Mayweather as it pertains to marketing, he is BETTER than even Oscar De La Hoya who only did above 1.4 million buys with FMJ, MEANWHILE Floyd has done 2.7 mill with Oscar, 2.2 mill with Canelo, 1.5 mill with Cotto and 1.4 mill with Shane Mosley… Floyd did the same number of HIGHER priced PPV’s with Victor Ortiz that Oscar did with a streaking Manny Pacquiao….All this tenderness, glove touching and sweetness in boxing is leading to guys who have become dependent on the Mayweather name to make a BUCK…. Why are the QUIET fighters making no money? I love Andre Ward and his skills make him a CLEAR #2 but absent revving up his “Talk Game” he will struggle to become a PPV star, Broner was close to doing a PPV before he got derailed by Maidana because he made some NOISE…. People forget that boxing is entertainment and that if you cannot get people interested then you cannot sell….

Posted December 26, 2013 11:32 am 


SREDMOND

WhoCares, the ENTIRE world of boxing is RIDING with Floyd Mayweather see the FAILURE of ALOT of you posters is that you draw ALL your references and opinions from a website that is dominated by maybe 30 or 40 regular posters… In the REAL WORLD Floyd Mayweather is the consensus #1 boxer in the World and people are turning out in RECORD numbers to pay RECORD prices to see his fights… These are just simply FACTS that many of my opinions are aligned with… When you get over your campaign of distortion and the smoke clears, barring a loss you will STILL see Mayweather sitting atop the heap looking down on the rest…..

Posted December 26, 2013 11:27 am 


Whocares

Floyd admitted his fear in an interview, which is available on youtube. When he demanded a blood test years ago, he clearly stated that he does not want to risk his health fighting a(n allegedly) drugged fighter in Pac. He said that he is a family man and and he owes to his family to stay healthy. At the same time, he, Sr and Roger stated that he could be Pac easy, even when he were on Peds. That is very contradictive, and doesn’t make sense. It sounds like an excuse, and the only explanation is fear of losing, there is no other at the time this was taking place. I am sorry Floyd fans, but your idol is indeed afraid, which is ok. Just admit it.

Posted December 26, 2013 10:28 am 


Mag

Hating a$$ article smh…. He avoids the toughest opposition???? Wasn’t Canelo suppose to be the biggest and baddest thing he could face at that time around his weight class. So who should get the fighter of the year, Pacquioa?? lol…. He made Guerrera look like he never fought before.. And he whooped a bigger and much younger Canelo, who a lot of people said that he wouldn’t even fight. You haters are too much lol…

Posted December 26, 2013 10:02 am 


Whocares

Let me ask you guys, why does a boxer (Mayweather), who is allegedly so much better than another (Pac) and makes so much more money, repeated mock and make fun of that other boxer? Is it shear poor character, jealousy or is it fear? Each one of these reasons are embarrassing. Poor character is a turn off, no matter how good you are. Only die hard fans (PEEJ, Sredmond) will dismiss it. Jealousy is also embarrassing. Why jealous, insecure? Not enough recognition? Too boring and knows it? The third reason is IMO the most likely one, fear. Afraid of losing what defines his entire legacy, the “0″. Once that is gone, his accomplishments, in his eyes, are all reduced to very little. It’s basically the fear to lose all he has except, including the money making potential and life style. All in all, it has become embarrassing, the mocking of another fighter and coming up with another excuse or condition every other week…

Posted December 26, 2013 9:58 am 


Jake

I like Floyd alright now, but was soured on him for years after he was SOUNDLY whipped by Castillo and was given the gift decision. At least he gave him a rematch, but Floyd was whipped pillar to post in his prime, so everyone please stop acting like he’s never lost!

Posted December 26, 2013 9:52 am 


SREDMOND

I hear you Mr Gav, Stevenson got an opportunity and he made the most of it… FMJ is like a Blue Chip Stock at this point

Posted December 26, 2013 8:56 am 


punch

And Poles searching their trash for cigarette ends, imbecile.

Posted December 26, 2013 8:24 am 


Anonymous

go to any getto in the world and you will find the blacks.

Posted December 26, 2013 8:12 am 


punch

Anonymous the Polish bum, cigarette ends smoking derelict, go back to Poland and spew your hate where your fellow citizens are still agonizing the ass whooping Lewis gave your country man. One thing you probably agree with me on is that there has never been a Polish HW champion and there will never be a Polish HW Champion.

Posted December 26, 2013 7:12 am 


punch

Anonymous you’re truly the scum of the earth and your Polisher bum ass is about to be ejected from GB now let see your genius at work washing plates in your home country, who cigarette end smoking derelict.

Posted December 26, 2013 6:59 am 


Jab

Chicken Floyd has phobia of cooking oil.. Boycott him

Posted December 26, 2013 6:56 am 


Mr Gav

Fair point sredmond, no one can denay flloyds greatness he really made alverez look second rate. But I’m just picking adoinos for fighter of the year simply because of where he started and finished the year.

Posted December 26, 2013 5:51 am 


Losing patience!

He should win the most carefully selected opponent at a carefully selected weight award. Then he should win the avoid the best fighter of his generation award for his chicken antics. Please prove me wrong Floyd.Make the fight happen and face your fear.You will get hit more but would more than likely still win and go on to be an all time great.Pac is waiting for you.It would be an excellent contest. Just do it.

Posted December 26, 2013 5:40 am 


Anonymous

Anonymous you trash and the last time I checked Black folks were winning, Welfare? dude this is not the 70s we are presidents lawyers and doctors. White trash makes but the majority on food stamps, Poverty dont give a dam about black or white. Its easy to be a coward and types things in front of a computer come to the hood and say that better go there and see the real people who are making a difference….

Posted December 26, 2013 4:44 am 


punch

Anonymous you clueless polish bum, you keep hating on a black man who is living a better than you. All these welfare nonsense you’re spewing actually show that you are a projecting swat and derelict who hates people mostly blacks who have worked hard to earn what they have whilst you wallop in poverty and hate. Sad sad sad Anonymous.

Posted December 26, 2013 4:34 am 


Boxtradamus

Floyd is the FOY. No one else can match beating TWO Top 10 P4P Fighters this year.

Posted December 26, 2013 4:23 am 


Mansworld

Arum will never let Manny fight Floyd hell its been so long now that people are no longer interested in it. Marquez turned down a 5 fight with Manny. Arum is ruining him and Bradley is in the same boat you will never see these guy against a Floyd, Garcia, Maidana or Mallinagi. Manny and Bradley are Bob Arums fighters. Manny is going to fight Bradley or Ruslan next but maybe another bum like Rios first. I think Ruslan will stop Manny, Bradley has all the heart in the world he just cant punch and Manny hasnt knocked anyone out in his last 3 fights….

Posted December 26, 2013 3:05 am 


ODLH

Actually I want Floyd to fight Pacquiao but what can I do .. I don’t know

Posted December 26, 2013 2:42 am 


SREDMOND

Apparently Mayweathers name was NOT mentioned which makes sense given the TR GBP Cold War… Both sides know this is not happening and Koncz admits that Marquez “has the bragging rights”

Posted December 26, 2013 1:29 am 


SREDMOND

INTERVIEW MICHAEL KONCZ DISCUSSING PACS OPTIONS FOR A BOUT…….Koncz rules out Marquez, Floyd fights with Pacquiao

ABS-CBNnews.com

Posted at 12/25/2013 6:46 PM | Updated as of 12/26/2013 12:43 AM

It’s either Bradley or Provodnikov for Pinoy champ

——————————————————————————–

MANILA, Philippines – Manny Pacquiao’s adviser Michael Koncz will be meeting the Filipino champion on Thursday regarding boxer’s options for his next fight to relay details of his discussions with Top Rank boss Bob Arum.

In an interview with LA Times’ Lance Pugmire, Koncz said Juan Manuel Marquez is no longer among the Filipino’s options.

Marquez has already fought Pacquiao four times and is no longer interested to extend their rivalry further.

“Marquez will never fight us again,” Koncz said. “Why would he? He has bragging rights and all the money he wants.”

Koncz also revealed that Mayweather’s name was not even mentioned during his meeting with Arum.

As far as Mayweather is concerned, he doesn’t want any part of Pacquiao as long as the Filipino fights under Arum’s Top Rank.

This means, Pacquiao will only have to choose between his Russian training partner Ruslan Provodnikov and WBO welterweight titlist Timothy Bradley.

Although Provodnikov earlier said he wouldn’t want to fight Pacquiao, his manager said the Russian will be amenable given the right price.

Posted December 26, 2013 1:28 am 


SREDMOND

Canelo being “Champ was cool” Floyd was also a Champ in the weight class and he was the P4P best in the sport…Mayweather did NOT have to fully concede to Canelos MASSIVE rehydrations and get in the ring with a guy weighting 172 the night of the bout like he did with Trout… He faced the kid and spotted him a MASSIVE 15 pound weight advantage, something that not even Sugar Ray Robinson could overcome against Joey Maxim, May boxed Canelos ears off and that measly 1.5 pounds was NOT a factor in his domination… Results RULE… FMJ 45-0

Posted December 26, 2013 1:06 am 


SREDMOND

Floyd and Canelo fought at a catchweight SO WHAT it was still a fight for the Jr MW Title and the 2 pound difference was NO factor only an excuse… Canelo was NOT dumb, he just could NOT outbox the P4P King…! we have seen this before, how many times has FMJ won the Jr MW title? 3 if I am correct…. Damn hes a BAD BAD man! two of the guys he beat have a total of 9 weight classes they were Champs in and one of them Unified and was 13 years younger… Sheer Greatness made to look EASY #FMJ

Posted December 26, 2013 1:02 am 


Jimmy

Why the idiot sanctioning bodies would have allowed a unification fight at a catch weight is unexplainable. Complete bull, canelo might have been dumb but the sanctioning bodies should have said NO.

Posted December 26, 2013 12:27 am 


Proud African

A biased writer. If Canelo had beaten Mayweather he would be considered the #1 PFP fighter. Mayweather beat Canelo roundly and deserves to be fighter of the year and best fighter of all time.

Posted December 26, 2013 12:13 am 


Sheriff Joe’s chicken

And Floyd fought Canelo UNDER 154lbs which makes no sense because if Canelo was the champ why should he lose those 2 extra pounds? But LIKE A CHAMPION Saul Alvarez said ok “whatever crybaby Floyd wants” but wait… didn’t Floyd fight Cotto without a catchweight at 154lbs??

Posted December 26, 2013 12:03 am 


Sheriff Joe’s chicken

ESPN’s Dan Rafael:

Has Floyd Mayweather ranked at MIDDLEWEIGHT. You were saying? Floyd only preys on bloated LIGHTWEIGHTS.

Posted December 25, 2013 11:59 pm 


Larry

Horrible article pregnant with tons of half truths and above all a high display of intellectual myopia.

Posted December 25, 2013 11:51 pm 


SREDMOND

ESPN’s Dan Rafael on Canelo……..2. Canelo Alvarez (42-1-1)

Alvarez, the 23-year-old Mexican hero, was routed by Floyd Mayweather Jr. on Sept. 14 in the biggest fight in years. Alvarez suffered his first career defeat and lost both of his belts, but he would probably beat any other junior middleweight out there. At least Alvarez admitted he had been schooled by Mayweather. He’s still young and can certainly rebound for big fights in the future. He has announced he will fight three times on pay-per-view in 2014: March 8, July 26 and Nov. 22. The potential opponents for March include former junior middleweight champ Miguel Cotto, reigning titlist Carlos Molina, interim titlist Erislandy Lara and brawling countryman Alfredo Angulo.
Next: March 8 vs. TBA.

Posted December 25, 2013 11:45 pm 


The Ref

writer is right, no coward should be awarded best in combat sport. Like it or not, money may needs pacquiao

Posted December 25, 2013 11:41 pm 


SREDMOND

Ahhhh the screen name stealers HARD at work making fools of themselves they cannot undermine the overall message or assign foolishness to a man who speaks facts…

Posted December 25, 2013 11:05 pm 


Kid Blast

Fighter of the Year : Floyd Mayweather Jr. In a year when Timothy Bradley gained redemption, Danny Garcia shined and surprised, Gennady Golovkin (the Euro Pacquiao) won four times, slick and talented Guillermo Rigondeaux won just about every round he fought, Sergey Kovalev totally destroyed his opposition (Ismayl Sillakh as Exhibit One) , Mikey Garcia won two world titles in two divisions, and Adonis “Superman” Stevenson lived up to his nickname, one man firmly remained the straw who still stirs the drink.

Showing no signs of getting long in the tooth, Floyd Mayweather Jr. (45-0) dominated Robert “The Ghost” Guerrero, who had not lost a fight in over seven years in over four different classes, and then handily beat long-undefeated Saul “Canelo” Alvarez (42-0-1), a bigger, younger, and stronger fighter. Junior remains the No. 1-ranked pound-for-pound fighter and nothing he did this year suggests that will change in the near future. The sublime beauty and finesse that he brings to the table simply remains unmatched.

Posted December 25, 2013 11:04 pm 


Ray Ray

Swedish-yeah you said that the other day. Id like 2 c Adonis fight more times away from home next yr.

Posted December 25, 2013 9:59 pm 


Swedish Boxing Fan

Floyd Mayweather Jr will be rememberd as a skilled boxer in the ring BUT few will talk about his “brave”, “dangerous” fights…Why you say?

Very simple answer. Its becouse there are no such fights on his record.
To much negative tastes from Mayweather jr that makes people not want to talk about his career.

Cherry picking opponents + fighting for money before titles and achivments + avoiding thretning opponents and have bad excuses on overfload to not fight them + have a greedy image that money is more important then a great legacy + that money makes the man + beating up women and avoid taxes = (Trash tallant?)

Like I said I have respect for Floyd Mayweather Jr,s skills but the rest I have NON + that his fights are not that fun to watch anyway.

If Floyd Mayweather Jr never fight Manny “Pac-Man” Paquiao then most people will look back at him for not fighting, Not Paquiao as he want the fight and have no stupid excuses.

Marvin Hagler wanted Ray Leonard but Leonard kept him waiting for years until 1987.
Lennox Lewis wanted to fight Mike Tyson for many years but Tyson ducked and Lewis had to wait 6 years to get the fight. And the list goes on and on.

Posted December 25, 2013 9:56 pm 


Ray Ray

Swift defending the titles he unified I should say….Go through Danny Garcia hit list….hes building a good resume, its a shame toprank an GBP are a no go.

Posted December 25, 2013 9:49 pm 


Calzaghe

Pacquiao v Mayweather fight, the ref.

youtube.com/watch?v=XP9cfQx2OZY

Posted December 25, 2013 9:47 pm 


SREDMOND

I have no problem with Stevenson getting the nod he became Lineal at LHW, he is certainly exciting and explosive couple that with him being an older fighter making waves he had a solid claim as well…

Posted December 25, 2013 9:44 pm 


Ray Ray

Stevenson, Mikey Garcia, Danny Garcia or Floyd? Thats my field 4 fighter of the yr. Mayweathers 2 opponents @ the time both top 10 pnd 4 pnd. Mikey cleaning out the devision. Danny Garcia unify the titles beating good names on the way. Or the Cindarella storey of Adonis…..All have a fair claim.

Posted December 25, 2013 9:43 pm 


How it is

Floyd Mayweather Adrien Broner

youtube.com/watch?v=t21dMFdA0NU

Posted December 25, 2013 9:21 pm 


Brazil

PELE, he would beat them at the football, show how it’s done.

Posted December 25, 2013 9:06 pm 


SREDMOND

Mr Gav, how do you establish an advantage over a fighter that is rated as the BEST in boxing and how do you have an advantage when NO ONE will pay attention to the things your competitor has over you… Canelo had 15 pounds and 13 years on Mayweather, in boxing history those are considered advantages, despite his high skill level Floyds nobodys “Young Fighter” he is 37 in Feb… Basically guys want him to disadvantage himself to a degree that the results become somewhat tainted…. I think Andre Ward is EASILY the #2 P4P boxer in the sport but a C level HW might take him because of the size difference is that a TRUE result or reasonalbe handicap? Mayweather came from 130 and cannot hit the ring above 150 even the night of the fight YET he gets no credit when WW’s are routineling coming to the contest between 155-164 (Ortiz on the latter)…. With Floyd its NEVER enough jus say’in…

Posted December 25, 2013 9:01 pm 


Argentina

Fight the power, fight the Maradona and the Kempes, Ardilles, in the cup for Tottenham.

Posted December 25, 2013 9:01 pm 


Joseph Herron

You’re right, Havoc.

HBO has over 29 million subscribers compared to almost 23 million Showtime subscribers.

I love HBO’s position in flexing their muscle and cultivating new stars of the sport. That’s why 2013 has been such a great year for fight fans.

HBO is showcasing new faces while Showtime is putting on better head to head match-ups because of GBP’s near monopoly at 47 and 54.

It’s a win/win for the fight fans.

But the catalyst was Floyd’s move to Showtime…none of this happens in 2013 without Mayweather’s commute.

Posted December 25, 2013 8:59 pm 


Europe

Dying breed USA boxers, it’s all Europe now, taking over.

Posted December 25, 2013 8:57 pm 


SREDMOND

I always do my name in “CAPS” if you are gonna be an imposter… But I would have no issue with FMJ beating up Maidana its a cool storyline, since people think that Broner and Mayweathers shoulder roll are the same LOL

Posted December 25, 2013 8:56 pm 


SREDMOND

Wards quotes about a fighter he NEVER boxed nor participated in his training camp and cannot even hold a conversation with absent an interpreter mean NOTHING… Canelo Alvarez lost because he cannot box as well as Floyd Mayweather… He went into the ring with chronological and physical advantages that MOST boxers would… Pretending the opinion of a boxer or a passing comment is proof positive as to why he lost is PAINFULLY illogical and frankly an excuse… Canelo never whined about his losing due to anything other than Mayweather being in another league…

Posted December 25, 2013 8:55 pm 


Havoc

Joshep- before Showtime, HBO is waaay better in boxing shows. Showtime increase in subscription but there is now way they have more than HBO right now.

Posted December 25, 2013 8:54 pm 


mr gav

Floyd beat 2 very credible opponents very easily but he did what was expected of him. AAdonis Stevenson come from un known to superstar something not expected of him beating and knocking out 4 decent fighters. This is why Stevenson is my fighter of the year and I hope he wins it. When mayweather fights someone who has an advantage over him that is when hecan be considers for this award

Posted December 25, 2013 8:54 pm 


sredmond

Fight the Maidana,

youtube.com/watch?v=8PaoLy7PHwk

Posted December 25, 2013 8:52 pm 


remi

joseph, very good point

Posted December 25, 2013 8:49 pm 


SREDMOND

Joseph Herron, makes a GOOD point that even Jim Lampley acknowledged on his HBO show “The Fight Game” frankly I was surprised given the circumstances… The close to 25% uptick in subscriptions is nothing less than a MASSIVE win largely attributable to the presence of the P4P King on the Network along with the flashiest most talked about young stars in boxing… Adrian Broner, Canelo Alvarez, Danny Garcia and the rest of the Golden Boy stable…. Mayweather along with Al Haymon are creating powerblock where even MORE fighters will ultimately be defecting to Showtime and the GBP stable in hopes of landing the biggest fights and being aligned with the BIGGEST stars in boxing… At this point HBO and Top Ranks biggest star (Manny Pacquiao) just bombed his PPV with Rios and no one knows when Pac Man will attain 1 million buys again, Marquez is in his 40′s, Bradley is skilled but simply not a BIG draw… Guys like GGG and Kovalev don’t have the fanbases to become PPV players…. Look at ESB, the last 10 articles must in some way be connected to Floyd Mayweather about 70% of the time….We have seen the UPSIDE of Manny Pacquiao at the box office , he will never clip 1.5 million buys against ANYONE not named Floyd Mayweather Jr I love Pac but he cannot deliver the KO’s and we have been shown he is not invincible…The undercards for the Mayweather vs Canelo fight and the Broner vs Maidana bout were terrific!!! and with fighters like Santa Cruz, Matthysee, Garcia, Broner, Canelo, Khan, Thurman, and Maidana available to FMJ to mix and match on undercards then later box if need be things are looking mighty bright for the GBP family headed revenue wise by Floyd Mayweather Jr….

Posted December 25, 2013 8:48 pm 


remi

this is absolutely dumb

Posted December 25, 2013 8:40 pm 


Turkey shoot

No, it’s thanks giving day for us, Christmas day in the morning.

Posted December 25, 2013 8:37 pm 


Sheriff Joe’s chicken

Man Machine- very good post. Good quotes form Ward. Its no denying now that Mayweather did try and weaken Canelo.

Posted December 25, 2013 8:33 pm 


Sour Mash

USA we are a few hours behind on Christmas day.

Posted December 25, 2013 8:32 pm 


Op Amp

Boxingpedia – great post.

Posted December 25, 2013 8:29 pm 


Sour Mash

Owned v Maidana.
youtube.com/watch?v=UMJLBWovXZo

Posted December 25, 2013 8:27 pm 


Op Amp

Man Machine – Well done. you took two of ESBs biggest nut HUGGERS, and kicked their behinds! Always cool to see! Lol :)

Posted December 25, 2013 8:26 pm 


SREDMOND

Why NOT go for broke and say that Mayweather is a LHW fighter preying on JR WW’s that will make the story more fantastic and believable to ABSOLUTELY NO ONE who is a real boxing fan belives that nonsense.. Next you will tell us that Mayweather is a Cyborg!! Again why not!

Posted December 25, 2013 8:24 pm 


Sheriff Joe’s chicken

As I recall, Canelo did complain about the catchweight. He even went as far as calling Mayweather a crybaby and so he agreed to his terms to stop him from crying about the weight. Canelo went on record saying he fights at 154lbs and Mayweather Jr. fought at 154lbs against Cotto so why then the catchweight?

Posted December 25, 2013 8:23 pm 


Sheriff Joe’s chicken

Actually Mayweather Jr. is a MIDDLEWEIGHT preying on small welters or bloated lightweights. He fought Canelo at 152lbs to try and weaken him.

Posted December 25, 2013 8:20 pm 


Sheriff Joe’s chicken

Boxingpedia- well said.

Posted December 25, 2013 8:17 pm 


morrongon

@Boxingpedia, WELL DONE!

Posted December 25, 2013 8:14 pm 


punch

@Pharmboxer, so you must be one of those great achievers to call others underachievers. Maybe, you would like to give us a verifiable list of your great achievements. I’ll be looking forward to it.

Posted December 25, 2013 7:25 pm 


SREDMOND

BoxingPedia, since you ONLY give credit for undefeated Wins or guys with ONE loss then clearly you would not subject POOR defeated Pacquiao to a night with Floyd Mayweather who is UNDEFEATED while Manny has 5 losses and a couple of draws? He was just KOed one fight ago and 3x in his career clearly according to your STRICT metrics this guy cannot be worthy to fight Mayweather? Cotto only had 2 losses and was stopped 2x, whereas Manny has 5 and has been stopped 3 times last time being ONLY one fight ago….DAMMMMMMMMMMNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!

Posted December 25, 2013 7:12 pm 


SREDMOND

Oscar and Cotto were both guys facing TOP competition if Floyd cannot get credit for beating Cotto with ONLY 2 losses to an ATG and a BIG World Champion then who can he get credit for? Mayweather defeated Cotto at 154 where he had NEVER lost… Oscars resume is unreal he has at least 2 robberies on there (Trinidad and Mosley 2) he lost going up to MW against Hopkins who was simply too big and strong… The list of ODH opponents is as such Mayweather, Whitaker, Chavez 2x, Oba Carr, Quartey, Vargas, Trinidad, Hopkins, Mosley 2x, Pacquiao… Oscar NEVER lost to a scrub so taking his record out of context is laughable… AGAIN Floyd moved up in weight to face ODH and as per usual got the job DONE…

Posted December 25, 2013 7:08 pm 


SREDMOND

Man Machine, since when is Andre Ward part of Canelos camp and how often have they worked and sparred together? Freddy Roach has made a TON of predictions that do NOT come true ie Manny knocking out EVERY fighter for the past 4 years meanwhile the ONLY stoppages he was a part of involved his face cemented to the canvas and smelling salts…Andre Wards off handed comment offers us NO real insight into Alvarez condition he is just talking… Guys discussed how Chavez Jr was gonna be gassed after his huge rehydrations and he damn near got Martinez outta there in the final rounds… We saw video of Mikey Garcia throwing up in a bucket before facing Juanma and he STILL stopped Lopez with no issues…Alvarez had to drop a PALTRY 1.5 from weigh in to the next, it had NO effect on him that I am willing to entertain and the “W” next to Floyd Mayweathers name is the ONLY proof necessary… Dogs on ESB spend their day trying to explain why a fighter 15 pounds heavier and 13 years younger could not catchup with the Grandmaster?? Its a fruitless endeavor, Mayweather RUNs boxing, he is Tops by all measures that REALLY count and the next time he books a win EXCUSES will be made by the spineless who are so accustomed to seeing thier boxers lose that they cannot fathom a guy who is lineal in 4 weight classes, Champ in 5 and P4P #1 still on top of the game…

Posted December 25, 2013 7:03 pm 


punch

Anonymous, you Polish bum, dishwashing homeless tool, why don’t you go and find a trashcan with cigarrete ends to help you relieve you pain.

Posted December 25, 2013 7:01 pm 


Bo Bo Olson

Real biased thread….why should Floyd fight in Macao? Pacman only fought there because he’d not have to pay taxes. Sorry, I don’t know how many seats the casino had…I’m sure some Pac fan could tell us ….big as Vagas? . Canalo the Great Floyd Beater Hope was going to be the guy, 15 or more pounds, longer reach; speed of youth…etc…..and Rios was considered a stiff….gee he didn’t fall down. Of course Floyd is not in line for fight of the year….why should he…he beat the ‘next Floyd beater’ easily; as easily as he’s beaten most of the rest of them.
Pacman did cherry pick Rios …. odd not much said about that….he did need a good self-stimulating comeback fight, that could be sold… He needed a fighter to keep him on his toes; to see if he still had it.
I’ve nothing at all against Pac man…I am a Floyd fan….Floyd Patterson…

Posted December 25, 2013 6:58 pm 


Boxingpedia

Floyd is the biggest opportunist of all time. He is a huge talent but his best assessment is timing.He waited for the right time to face the biggest names of his resume, De la Hoya, Mosley and Cotto. Oscar had lost 4 out of his last 11 fight, Mosley had lost 5 out of 14 and Cotto had lost 2 out of his last 7 before they faced Floyd. There was a time when Kostya Tszyu was jr welterweight champion, Shane Mosley lightweight champion and De la Hoya welterweight champion, they only had 1 defeat in their combined records, a true legend would have jumped to the opportunity to face these champions in their prime. Where was Floyd at that time?
These boxers have achieved better single wins than Floyd, Moley beat a prime undefeated De la Hoya, Vernon Forrest beat a prime undefeated Mosley, Kostya Tszyu beat a prime undefeated Judah, De la Hoya beat a prime undefeated Quartey, Hatton beat Tszyu and Maidana KO Ortiz without sucker punch.

Posted December 25, 2013 6:58 pm 


SREDMOND

Canelo fights at Jr MW and he is fighting there for the forseeable future.. His bulking up gave him a NICE advantage over foes coming up from 140 and 147, then he tried his usual trick against Mayweather and LOST…. NOW the Weak of the Board “Man Machine, Tark, Bears and the rest” want to give him a “Get out of Jail Free Card”….. HOW EXACTLY can they say “Canelo was weakened” when Canelo has NOT even attempted to make that statement??? AGAIN these are just excuses we saw OLD Bernard Hopkins drop down in weight to defeat Kelly Pavlik and Oscar De La Hoya… FACT is that once you sign the contract you are responsible for your own preparations and if you cannot cut it that goes down as an “L” on your resume…

Posted December 25, 2013 6:57 pm 


punch

The haters are up here talking down on Floyd whilst he’s chilling in his multi-million dollar mansion. You can tell who the true losers are from their posts. Hey, why don’t you go get a life of your own, it really sucks being you.

Posted December 25, 2013 6:32 pm 


Whocares

* I meant Mayweather retires soon, not you sir, I hope to read many more articles by you. Happy holidays.

Posted December 25, 2013 6:28 pm 


Whocares

Sir, I salute you for this excellent article. I totally agree with you, Mayweather is bad for boxing. I hope you retires soon and stops ridiculing the sport of boxing. I also agree that there should no longer be a discussion on a fight with Pac. Mayweather is obviously afraid, which makes him a coward, and he will never fight him.

Posted December 25, 2013 6:26 pm 


Havoc

All those PPV # are the people who is waiting to see him lose and when it does they will all raise up their hand and waving there salmon finger at Floyd.

Posted December 25, 2013 6:20 pm 


Havoc

And the worst part of it… His fights are boring! So difficult to watch!

Posted December 25, 2013 6:09 pm 


Poop

PEEJ and SHREDMOND are blind twins adapted by Floyd Sr

Posted December 25, 2013 6:05 pm 


Man Machine

Please just let it go PEEJ. You’re making me feel really guilty for doing this now. Go watch Home Alone and drink some mulled wine in front of the log fire. Peace.

Posted December 25, 2013 6:05 pm 


Havoc

Canelo was a malnourished when he fought Floyd. That was deal to get a crack at a very talented cherry picker skilled knows everything to get a good advantage Floyd the cash cow businessman. You fight Floyd you get rich just make sure you listen to everything he wants.

Posted December 25, 2013 6:03 pm 


Man Machine

And Roy Jones said he feels 25 at the weekend. Stop being so obtuse PEEJ. My guns are loaded with facts, common sense and hard proof you and SREDMOND were loaded with the blindness of man crush and agenda.

No I bid you goodnight. I’m won the battle. Just accept it and regroup.

Posted December 25, 2013 6:01 pm 


PEEJ

Your right no hard feelings. Next time you want to debate please bring some better facts. That is how I win my arguments. With actual facts and not hear say. I get them straight from the source. Peace out and Merry Christmas.

Posted December 25, 2013 5:59 pm 


Man Machine

You are getting handled PEEJ. So did SREDMOND. At least he had the good sense to duck out of the fire escape before he got totally devoured by the flames. I suggest you do the same. IT’s the festive season. I’m giving you a chance to leave on your own terms. Merry Xmas. No hard feelings.

Posted December 25, 2013 5:58 pm 


PEEJ

Man Machine you havent done anything. Your argument is weak. Repeating what someone else said but not going by what was said from the fighter himself who I think would know his body who also has never missed the 154 limit who is also fighting at 154 in his next fight.

Posted December 25, 2013 5:57 pm 


PEEJ

Canelo said he was just fine. Said the weight did not hinder him. I could care less what other people say. I will go by what Canelo said himself. And like I said he was walking around the whole time. The only time he wasn’t was when Floyd was walking to the ring. Why can’t you admit that you are wrong. There is nothing wrong with admitting that.

Posted December 25, 2013 5:56 pm 


Man Machine

PEEJ the camera doesn’t lie, neither did I.

Just accept the fact that Canelo was drained. It won’t kill you you know.

Go find me footage of other fighters rushing for a chair at the weigh in if it’s so uncommon.

“Canelo didn’t look good yesterday,” Ward stated, speaking from the Fashion Show Mall during a meet and greet for the fans on Saturday afternoon. “It’s a big fight and you come that close to your opponent; you saw how Floyd was hyped up, full of energy. Even if you don’t have energy because you’re making weight, like I’ve never seen a guy go on a stage and sit down.

“That concerned me, that even if he blows up tonight, the back half of the twelve round fight is where I think Mayweather is going to step on the gas and it could get ugly,” Ward added.

Ward then issued a bold statement, hinting that an eventual TKO may be in store for Mayweather.

“It’s odd, because when you see that, you know this guy’s been having some serious weight issues,” said Ward. “It’s not just ‘I’m hungry, I’m a little bit dehydrated.’ There’s some serious weight issues and Floyd Mayweather is not the guy to have weight issues with when you fade down the stretch because he gets stronger. It’s kind of eyebrow-raising when I say he could potentially stop Canelo but I think a late-round stoppage is not out of the question.”

Andre Ward thinks it’s very rare too. But you and SREDMOND know better of course. haha

Just let it go the pair of you. I pwned you both at the same time. It’s no biggie. Just dust yourselves off and come back to fight another day. It’s only the internet you know?

Be seeing you.

Posted December 25, 2013 5:54 pm 


PEEJ

Yeah I know, getting it handed to me, unfortunately I am spitting facts, you are not. It is ok, you are only posting under anonymous so because you are too lame to come up with your own screen name. Unless you have one but to embarrassed to post under it

Posted December 25, 2013 5:52 pm 


PEEJ

Sorry for hitting you with facts. I mean if you can’t take it then don’t post on here. You just came on here to start hating on Canelo. Then you went off on how he struggles to make 154 with no proof and yet he is still fighting at 154. Then you claim he was weight drained during the weigh in and go to say proof is in him going straight to a chair to sit down for a long period of time. When in fact he only sat down waiting on Floyd to enter the ring. Then you went to tell me the camera doesn’t lie and once again I agreed with you. But apparently you where watching the camera, you had your own theory going

Posted December 25, 2013 5:51 pm 


Man Machine

PEEJ just stop. You and SREDMOND are totally insane. It’s like arguing with a brick wall. Stop getting so emotional about Floyd. It’s not healthy to be so obsessed about something.You’re pissing your life away arguing about someone you doesn’t even know you are. You’re both totally delusional.

Posted December 25, 2013 5:49 pm 


PEEJ

Just rewatched the weigh in. Sorry but he sat for about 3 to 5 minutes waiting on Floyd to come down. That is the only time he sat. So you are incorrect. Like you said the camera doesn’t lie

Posted December 25, 2013 5:48 pm 


Man Machine

No I said he wasn’t what he was sold , had never beaten anyone to warrant the hype he received, and he was weakened by the catch-weight. He has talent but he’s not as good as advertised.

Posted December 25, 2013 5:45 pm 


PEEJ

Actually he has proven to be the best of his weight class and also proven the best of his generation. That is what you have proven when you have been on top for as long as Floyd has been

Posted December 25, 2013 5:45 pm 


Anonymous

This writer is telling actual facts.

Posted December 25, 2013 5:44 pm 


PEEJ

Really and yet he was standing all that time and was taking pictures. Yeah ok. You are right the cameras don’t lie

Posted December 25, 2013 5:44 pm 


Anonymous

Definitely not an all time great or even the greatest of his generation. In fact, the reality is, he has not even proven to be the best of his weight class…

Posted December 25, 2013 5:43 pm 


Man Machine

He rusher for the seat before they stepped on the scales you idiot. Don’t try to fight fact with fiction when cameras were rolling PEEJ. Not a good idea.

Posted December 25, 2013 5:43 pm 


Anonymous

Real boxing fans know he is a sissy of a champion

Posted December 25, 2013 5:43 pm 


PEEJ

So basically this whole time you are just finding a way to say Canelo sucks. That is what your whole argument is. You should wait and see how he looks from here on out. And for someone struggling to make 154, then why is he fighting at 154 yet again?

Posted December 25, 2013 5:41 pm 


Anonymous

this article is spot on

Posted December 25, 2013 5:41 pm 


Man Machine

“De La Hoya – Pacquiao fights him at a catch-weight. Cotto – he fights him at a catchweight. When I fought De La Hoya, I said ‘give him to me at 154.’ With Cotto – ‘give him to me at 154.’ Give me the guys where they are comfortable at their weight so there are no excuses.

“I look at Miguel Cotto as an undefeated fighter because he faced Pacquiao, but Pacquiao caught him at a catch weight. He wasn’t the best Miguel Cotto. He was drained. He wasn’t hydrated”

And Leonard Ellerbe on Cotto vs Pacquiao:

“He was a dead man walking when he went into the ring,” Ellerbe said. “The casual fan doesn’t know what difference one or two pounds can make when a fighter is already down to weight. Fighters know.”

But SREDMOND knows better. Haha

Posted December 25, 2013 5:41 pm 


PEEJ

After the weigh in he didn’t rush for no seat. He was walking around taking pictures. As a matter of fact Floyd was trying to get a picture of them 2 holding the belt and he refused and even gave a mean look. He looked fine after all that. So not sure where that came from.

Posted December 25, 2013 5:40 pm 


Man Machine

I asked you a question, you answer it. That’s how it works son.

Don’t keep ducking now.

Show me your credentials and prove to me that you don’t have an agenda or a vested interest in turning fact into fiction. You wouldn’t want people to think you are a massive clueless bigoted hypocrite who doesn’t know what he’s taking about now would yiou?

Take a time out. Try and see if you can spin your way out of that. haha

Posted December 25, 2013 5:37 pm 


Man Machine

What a feeble weak-ass rebuttal? Is Canelo huge for the weight, yes or no? Guess who said this

”Canelo is a light heavyweight”

When was the last time Canelo fought at 152?

Did rush for a seat at the weigh in and remain seated for ages, yes or no?

Is that highly unusual?

If not prove it isn’t?

Funny how the only person on the stage who rushed for a seat is a fighter who walks around at light heavyweight, had been eating a diet of hamster food for months in order to drain his light heavyweight frame down to a weight he hadn’t fought at in years, and who could’nt keep any kind of pace up during the fight despite him being a sprightly 24 years of age. haha. Just a coincidence says SREDMOND the biggest Floyd sack licker and racist on Eastside. Sure it is buddy. haha

Facts and common sense is on my side. You’re only bedfellows are agenda andte blindness of man love. haha

I asked you to show us your credentials? You claim to be more aof an expert on weight cutting than Floyd, Ward, Ellerbe and pro fighters. You say 1 or 2lbs makes no difference at all. Ten prove it then. Show me why you’re more qualified to speak on this subject than they are.

Posted December 25, 2013 5:33 pm 


SREDMOND

Mean Machine SHOW me how these fighters who NEVER examined Canelo can decide he was NOT ready for combat… How many weigh ins have Ward, Ellerbe and Mayweather done with Alvarez?? You are just giving him a pass because Floyd Mayweather outboxed him like he does EVERYONE else…

Posted December 25, 2013 5:31 pm 


SREDMOND

Mayweather is the BEST because his PEERS have elevated him to that status and he has been operating at the top of the sport for 15 years he was P4P when he stopped Diego Corrales EONS ago and that was at 130, here we are with him putting in work at close to 37 and chumps are still making excuses for his PRIME opponents missing shots and getting countered by a Small WW who is not a big puncher…. FMJ’s World!

Posted December 25, 2013 5:28 pm 


art

Reni isn’t fit to write obits for a small town newspaper.

Posted December 25, 2013 5:27 pm 


SREDMOND

Man Machine, give me ONE good reason why Floyd, Ellerbe or Ward would KNOW Canelos body BETTER than he knows his OWN…. Which one amongst them is a General Practitioner, Endocronologist, Cardiolgist, Oncologist, Neurosurgen or even a Nurse Practioner for that matter… How much time did they spend in eachothers camps? Every Mayweather opponent makes assertions about his “Legs” these days and still loses Whhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaa!!! Do you mean the 3rd party convos of boxers and trainers cannot dictate what happens in the ring??

Posted December 25, 2013 5:26 pm 


Zuks

Kwakwakwa this article is spot on stupid! Give it to
Manny

Posted December 25, 2013 5:25 pm 


PEEJ

Your right PPVs does not determine if you are the best. But it is one thing that can determine what your cut of the purse should be. So it plays a major part. And Floyd being the best boxer of his generation also has nothing to do with PPV sells.

Posted December 25, 2013 5:25 pm 


lol

modern boxing, where the best fight the best. next up, the great amir khan. LOL

Posted December 25, 2013 5:24 pm 


Anonymous

Boxing is a sport not a pay per view contest. Mayweather thinks that by selling more pay per views he should automatically be the best. Mayweather is avoiding the fight that matters for his career because he is afraid to lose. If someone needs to be awarded for pay per view sells it should be Golden Boy Promotions and Showtime not a boxer.

Posted December 25, 2013 5:23 pm 


SREDMOND

Machine Man, you did NOT provide a SINGLE bit of scientific data and NOW you are begging me to see it your way to no avail… AGAIN you cannot substantiate your claims and you cannot even get Canelo Alvarez, whos body we are discussing to substantiate them hence YOU LOSE and YOU WHINE ….. You are dismissed for gross incompetence and walking into a punch that put the shot that turned Manny into mush to shame….HAHAHAHAHAHA!

Posted December 25, 2013 5:23 pm 


Anonymous

Pbf is a true pussy.

Posted December 25, 2013 5:21 pm 


SREDMOND

Floyd has sold over 3 million PPV’s in his last 2 fights he is entertaining the HELL out of somebody!! People are lining up to see HISTORY, to see a man doing it at a level few have done it at absent a hiccup and then there are the guillable Lunch Pail sorts who believe they may witness Blue Collar justice by seeing the UBER Flashy and rightfully confident Mayweather defeated in the ring….

Posted December 25, 2013 5:20 pm 


Man Machine

SREDMOND The only thing you joust with is your d1ck up Floyd’s ass. You couldn’t toy with a toy if the toy maker taught you how to toy with it haha

And LOL at you trying to undermine someone’s credibility for them having a vested interest. Absolutely priceless.

It’s common knowledge Canelo is huge for the weight. You keep telling us remember? haha. It’s also common knowledge he struggled like mad to get down to a weight at in years. Your biased pro Floyd and Pro black spin doesn’t cancel out common sense and the truth no matter how many times you shout it out loud.

Give me one good reason you’re more qualified to speak on weight cutting than Floyd Mayweather, Andre Ward, Leonard Ellerbe and other professional fighters. Show me your credentials if you want us to take you seriously? And don’t duck the question either. Put your money where your mouth is.

Posted December 25, 2013 5:19 pm 


SREDMOND

I’m waiting for the Scientific Data “Man Machine” or are you going to bore me with testimonials from guys who are NOT part of Alvarez Camp? Alvarez has NOT even come out saying he felt depleted(I would not listen if he did) because ALL boxers make excuses when they lose but it is a DEATH BLOW to your spineless and pathetic assertions that the P4P King had anything but a Skills and Experience advantage over the FAR younger 13 years and BIGGER 165 to 150 (15 pounds) Canelo…. Its Xmas so I am gonna give a BASIC tutorial, ALWAYS argue FACTS and give your take on them… You have NO sound basis for establishing a handicap for Alvarez EXCEPT you want to explain away Floyds dominance… Again, you tried and someone in your life will commend you or perhaps these WEAK “Anonymous Posters” will leap to your aid!!! LMAO

Posted December 25, 2013 5:18 pm 


PEEJ

You don’t need to be entertaining to be fighter of the year. If you don’t like Floyds style then you don’t like the sweet science. On top of that don’t watch him. That is the problem, everybody has something negative to say about Floyd but yet they also comment on all his fights meaning they watch Floyd fight. They help with selling PPVs, they help in making him money. But yet they want to come on here and complain about him. Well just like if something you don’t like comes on the radio or TV, you should just change the channel.

Posted December 25, 2013 5:14 pm 


SREDMOND

Man Machine, since you want to introduce Andre Wards comments as to Canelos condition can you present us with Wards medical license, how long he practiced (Include Specialty) and exactly what tests he ran on Alvarez ALONG with a comparison of his prior results so that we can scientifically establish that Canelo was depleted relative to his baseline… Please include RBC’s (Red Blood Cell Counts) Thyroid, Creatine, Free and Bound Testosterone, Blood Sugar, Blood Pressure and Glucose Response… AGAIN these are just a few markers to go by, but we will also need his prior workout so that we can establish any points of deviation… Provide us with those reports and I will entertain Wards “Walk by” or “TV visual Exam”….. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

Posted December 25, 2013 5:13 pm 


Anonymous

You need to be entertaining and exciting to be fighter of the year.

Posted December 25, 2013 5:12 pm 


Anonymous

Canelo was a media created ”beast”, but in reality he was woefully inexperienced against top flight opposition, weight drained, and at least 2 or 3 years removed from reaching his prime.

Posted December 25, 2013 5:11 pm 


Anonymous

Absolute joke and only Floyd nuthuggers or gullible clowns would even think it.

Posted December 25, 2013 5:10 pm 


Anonymous

The blame lies with mayweather’s fans.

They worship him unconditionally, and SUPPORT his
refusal to fight Pacquiao.

Posted December 25, 2013 5:10 pm 


Anonymous

what a f***ing sham. thats what they got out of this year? he would say he is god himself and 90% of everyone would believe it.

Posted December 25, 2013 5:09 pm 


Anonymous

Only Mayweather’s blind and deluded Kool-Aid drinker “fans” could deny the conclusion.

Posted December 25, 2013 5:06 pm 


SREDMOND

Man Machine, lets be clear I see myriad flaws in your argument you are the CLASSIC excuse maker akin to Tark and Bears when a boxer loses… I will joust with your sort because it amuses me but I have NO respect for guys giving prime age boxers passes when they know the terms of the bout and a good piss is supposed to be the difference between them winning and losing weight wise… Andre Ward is a BOXER he is not Canelos, trainer how does he KNOW what Alvarez looks like on the regular? and more importantly how can he gauge his physical condition? “Being drained” is the MOST overdone excuse in boxing these days and it does NOT play with me, a professional athlete knows his obligations and has the time and tools to accomplish his task, if he steps to that ring and gets beat up I don’t really wanna hear about his training, sparring or anything because they are EXCUSES coming from someone with a VESTED interest in making them… To his credit Canelo has made no excuses, he just realized he was in with something he had NEVER seen before and likely will NEVER see again… ONE of the GREATEST PURE BOXERS in the history of the sport…. Sell that trash to someone who buys it…

Posted December 25, 2013 5:05 pm 


PEEJ

Wow Hec Dog Floyd fits your criteria there. Thanks for pointing that out.

Posted December 25, 2013 5:05 pm 


PEEJ

What am I wrong about? For saying Floyd doesn’t deserve to be the fighter of the year? I could care less about your patience. I have posted nothing but facts and even agreed with your assessment of Canelos. All I was doing was showing that Pac received the same treatment as Canelo.

Posted December 25, 2013 5:04 pm 


Hec Dog

Floyd Mayweather is not the fighter of the year by any means. The true Ring Magazine, which started giving this award out in 1928 had this criteria for candidates:

1. Must be foremost in his contribution to the skill and science of boxing and he not need be a champion

2. Must have a high ranking as both a fighter and a Sportsman.

3. Must associate with the abilities good public relations and reputation for clean moral living.

4. Must be recognized as an example to the growing youth.

As you can see, Floyd fails on three of the four. Winner of this award, IMO should exceed expectations. Adonis Stevenson, Marcos Maidana, Guillermo Rigondeaux. Sergey Kovalev, Mikey Garcia, Danny Garcia and Gennady Golovkin should all be considered above Floyd Mayweather.

Posted December 25, 2013 5:03 pm 


Man Machine

Are you taking the piss? Stop being so obtuse. My patience is wearing thin with yo PEEJ. You know you’re wrong but you keep arguing to the contrary all the time like an insolent little child.

Posted December 25, 2013 5:02 pm 


PEEJ

So basically you are talking about nothing. Ok got cha

Posted December 25, 2013 5:00 pm 


Man Machine

What am I talking about? I already told you exactly what I was talking about. The conversation had nothing to do with Pacquiao but you and SREDMOND continuously keep trying to take it in that direction to expose some kind of inherent double standard in my argument so that it deflects the heat away from Floyd. The pair of you do it all the time. That’s what I’m talking about. Jeezus!!

Posted December 25, 2013 4:58 pm 


PEEJ

Since when is he struggling to make 154?

Posted December 25, 2013 4:57 pm 


Havoc

You can’t cherry picked your opponents and be fighter of the year.

Posted December 25, 2013 4:57 pm 


Anonymous

Floyd Mayweather is not the fighter of the year by any means.

Posted December 25, 2013 4:56 pm 


Anonymous

Modern boxing is a farce.

Posted December 25, 2013 4:56 pm 


Anonymous

Maidana deserves fighter of the year.

Posted December 25, 2013 4:55 pm 


Anonymous

Floyd no way! Stevenson, Kovalev, Garcia and Golovkin would all deserve it more and that’s just a few I could mention.

Posted December 25, 2013 4:54 pm 


Man Machine

”Problem is Floyd doesn’t get tired so. and we’ve seen Canelo fade in fights before
AND having to take off that extra 2lbs pounds is.. people think it’s just two pounds
but when you already struggling to make 154 that extra two pounds is a lot. He’s going to put on a lot of weight but he’s not going to be able to put on the right kind of weight just in 24 hours. So he’s gonna feel the fact that he’s, you know, stripped his body, cutting his muscles to get to 152”

Andre Ward

Posted December 25, 2013 4:53 pm 


Anonymous

No way Mayweather is Fighter of the Year. He only fought two times and both of his opponents were overrated.

Posted December 25, 2013 4:53 pm 


PEEJ

Being exciting is not what gets you fighter of the year. It is who you beat and the level of comp you beat. Fight of the year is what would be determined by the action in the ring.

Posted December 25, 2013 4:53 pm 


Anonymous

it’s getting clearer Mayweather is no great boxer.

Posted December 25, 2013 4:52 pm 


PEEJ

What are you talking about? I already said Floyd does not deserve to be fighter of the year. But he deserves to be mentioned. You where talking about Canelo getting the WBC title by a gift. I am clearly pointing out that Pac got that same treatment. So what are you talking about?

Posted December 25, 2013 4:52 pm 


Man Machine

“Canelo didn’t look good yesterday,” Ward stated, speaking from the Fashion Show Mall during a meet and greet for the fans on Saturday afternoon. “It’s a big fight and you come that close to your opponent; you saw how Floyd was hyped up, full of energy. Even if you don’t have energy because you’re making weight, like I’ve never seen a guy go on a stage and sit down.

“That concerned me, that even if he blows up tonight, the back half of the twelve round fight is where I think Mayweather is going to step on the gas and it could get ugly,” Ward added.

Ward then issued a bold statement, hinting that an eventual TKO may be in store for Mayweather.

“It’s odd, because when you see that, you know this guy’s been having some serious weight issues,” said Ward. “It’s not just ‘I’m hungry, I’m a little bit dehydrated.’ There’s some serious weight issues and Floyd Mayweather is not the guy to have weight issues with when you fade down the stretch because he gets stronger. It’s kind of eyebrow-raising when I say he could potentially stop Canelo but I think a late-round stoppage is not out of the question.”

Posted December 25, 2013 4:51 pm 


Anonymous

Mayweather is a complete joke!

Posted December 25, 2013 4:51 pm 


Anonymous

Mayweather please stop crapping on our sport.

Posted December 25, 2013 4:50 pm 


Man Machine

“De La Hoya – Pacquiao fights him at a catch-weight. Cotto – he fights him at a catchweight. When I fought De La Hoya, I said ‘give him to me at 154.’ With Cotto – ‘give him to me at 154.’ Give me the guys where they are comfortable at their weight so there are no excuses.

“I look at Miguel Cotto as an undefeated fighter because he faced Pacquiao, but Pacquiao caught him at a catch weight. He wasn’t the best Miguel Cotto. He was drained. He wasn’t hydrated”

And Leonard Ellerbe on Cotto vs Pacquiao:

“He was a dead man walking when he went into the ring,” Ellerbe said. “The casual fan doesn’t know what difference one or two pounds can make when a fighter is already down to weight. Fighters know.”

Posted December 25, 2013 4:49 pm 


Anonymous

Floyd Mayweather has made a mockery of boxing.

Posted December 25, 2013 4:49 pm 


Man Machine

Yes, getting down to 152, a weight he hasn’t hit in years, especially for someone who’s still growing, for a fighter who walks around in the mid 170s and has weighed and who has weighed in at 172, is a massive deal. Those extra 2lbs makes a big difference. Fighters and those involved with them will tell you exactly the same, including Floyd, Ellerbe, Andre Ward. Please don’t try and tell me you’re more qualified to speak on this than they are?

Posted December 25, 2013 4:48 pm 


mikec

What Mayweather doing is rebuilding the hype for the fight w/ Pac. Before most people was saying forget about it, it’s long over due. Now saying he afraid he cherry picks he will make another excuse I say keep talking just like when you thought he wouldn’t fight Canelo after that fight it was another cherry picking fight LoL!

Posted December 25, 2013 4:45 pm 


Man Machine

PEEJ what the hell is wrong with you? We’re talking about whether Floyd deserves to be fighter of the year or not and how good Canelo is but all you keep doing is bringing up Pacquiao every other sentence. You and SREDMOND are totally obsessed with him. Why are you so intent on trying to turn EVERYTHING into a Flomo-Pactard flame war. Jeez you guys are borderline psychotic. Take a deep breath already. You’re like a pair of little kids.

Posted December 25, 2013 4:42 pm 


Havoc

If it comes down to Floyd and Rigo cause they both have similar style. I take Rigo to win it.

Posted December 25, 2013 4:36 pm 


Havoc

You need to be entertaining and exciting to be fighter of the year.

Posted December 25, 2013 4:33 pm 


Hec Dog

Floyd Mayweather is not the fighter of the year by any means. The true Ring Magazine, which started giving this award out in 1928 had this criteria for candidates:

1. Must be foremost in his contribution to the skill and science of boxing and he not need be a champion

2. Must have a high ranking as both a fighter and a Sportsman.

3. Must associate with the abilities good public relations and reputation for clean moral living.

4. Must be recognized as an example to the growing youth.

As you can see, Floyd fails on three of the four. Winner of this award, IMO should exceed expectations. Adonis Stevenson, Marcos Maidana, Guillermo Rigondeaux. Sergey Kovalev, Mikey Garcia, Danny Garcia and Gennady Golovkin should all be considered above Floyd Mayweather.

Posted December 25, 2013 4:32 pm 


PEEJ

Considering the fact that he made 153 the fight before. 152 shouldn’t been that big a deal. Funny but when Pac fought Cotto at 145 everybody said he made 146 the fight before so 145 shouldn’t be a big deal. But when Floyd does it then it is a big deal.

Posted December 25, 2013 4:30 pm 


PEEJ

Beating top flight comp is all fine and dandy, but boxing is not what did you do in your past, it is what have you done for me now. Pac hasn’t done much to be highly ranked at the moment. Still top 10 but ranked under 5

Posted December 25, 2013 4:29 pm 


Man Machine

Five-division world champ, Floyd Mayweather is a defensive master, capable of avoiding most everything thrown his way in the ring. But there’s no shoulder roll good enough to avoid the charges of hypocrisy in the recent announcement that he’d be fighting Saul “Canelo” Alvarez on September 14 at a catchweight of 152 lbs.

“I would never want to put a fighter in a position where he’s not comfortable. I want a guy when he’s at his best. If he’s at his best at 154 and he’s strong and he’s solid, then that’s the fight we’re fighting at. I walk around at 150, but at the end of the day – skills pay the bills…. Give me the guys where they are comfortable at their weight so there are no excuses.”

–Floyd Mayweather, February of 2012.

Mayweather is now trying to intercept the negative backlash to the catchweight clause by pointing the finger at Canelo. According to him, it was Team Alvarez that wanted the catchweight clause for this fight.

“If I’m not mistaken,” Mayweather told Ben Thompson of Fighthype, “They came on record and said they wanted to meet at a catchweight, so we came up with 152 and both parties said we’re comfortable with that. You’re going to hear people criticize me and say, ‘You’re doing the same thing Pacquiao is doing, fighting everybody at a catchweight.’ No I’m not because Pacquiao presents that to his opponents. Once again, these people brought this to me. They said, ‘Well, we’ll fight Mayweather at a catchweight.’ That’s all you had to say. You said that. I didn’t bring that to you guys; you guys brought that to me.”

Alvarez trainer, “Chepo” Reynoso, has a slightly different version of the story.

“Those two pounds that we’re sacrificing was a condition to get the Mayweather fight,” Reynoso told Boxingscene “He wanted 150 pounds and we requested 152, and I think in the end we did well…If we did not give up those two pounds, he wouldn’t fight. Besides, Mayweather wanted to fight at 147, then 150. Fortunately, Richard Schaefer is a great negotiator. Everyone did their part to get this achieved.”

Technically, Alvarez did say that he’d be willing to go down to 150 lbs. to make a Mayweather fight, but that was way back in 2011 when facing “Money” was just a pipe dream for the young fighter from Guadalajara. To hold him to those words more than two years later is a real stretch.

Posted December 25, 2013 4:28 pm 


Man Machine

No, I was taking about Canelo wanting the catch-weight.

And Pacquiao beat lots of top flight competition, Canelo beat none. Big difference.

And what’s with all this you’re posting comments to quickly nonsense? my patience is running very thin with this right now. I’m out of here until later if it keeps doing this now. It’s infuriating having to post the same post 10 times .

Posted December 25, 2013 4:25 pm 


Man Machine

SREDMOND do you ever stop your spinning? Who cares what the gullible muppets thought at the time? Like I said all that glitters is not golden. Modern boxing is a farce. Canelo got where he did through careful matchmaking and WBC nepotism and corruption. He’s a media creation. He never beat any legitimately world class opposition his own size. I broke down his best wins and everything I said about them was correct.

Posted December 25, 2013 4:22 pm 


big moe

Bitter, jealous, butt hurt pac fan. Such biased article. Pacs last outing clearly shows hes the face of boxing with 475,000 buys. Cant even stand up to arum and Koncz and find out whats going on with his money. He beat up a blown up over weight rios and thinks hes come back? All those supposed fighters floyd duck were top rank fighters. Tell Pac Pac to fight Guererro or Canelo. Oh thats right, his daddy arum wont let him.

Hes going to fight bradley next and it will flop. And then he will re beffing floyd for a fight. Floyd has dominated for 17 years and will do so till he retires. So deal with haters. 46-0 coming up.

Posted December 25, 2013 4:21 pm 


PEEJ

What isn’t true? That Pac got his 154 title from someone not even ranked at 154 and he wasn’t even ranked at 154. Did it at a catch weight against a known cheater? Or the fact that he has been placed as the mandatory after only winning 2 fights out of his last 4, fighting someone coming off a loss whom was not even ranked at 147. So what isn’t true?

Posted December 25, 2013 4:17 pm 


Man Machine

Why is the word tr0lling banned? wtf

Posted December 25, 2013 4:16 pm 


Man Machine

Stop tr0lling PEEJ. You’re being almost as disingenuous as team Mayweather there. I know you know that isn’t true.

Posted December 25, 2013 4:15 pm 


SREDMOND

Canelo, took on Trout boldly after choosing not to appear on the Mayweather undercard… He won what I thought was a close bout and set himself up for a fight with Floyd… At the time they fought Canelo was a very legit champ having beat another undefeated PRIME, fighter who had just upset and nicely outboxed HOFer Miguel Cotto… Floyd spotted Canelo every advantage imaginable, 13 years and 15 pounds ESB chumps are just mad because he used both hands during the contest…

Posted December 25, 2013 4:14 pm 


Man Machine

test

Posted December 25, 2013 4:14 pm 


SREDMOND

Pacquiao just got his first win on paper in 2 years, meanwhile Mayweather has been cleaning up and generating some of the BIGGEST events in boxing history… Contrary to what guys think Pacquiao has REALLY receded in importance to the Mayweather $$$$ machine, the public along with Larry Merchant had dubbed Canelo as the possible answer to the 17 year Floyd Mayweather riddle and they rewarded the bout with $150 mill in revenue… Floyd nicely clarified that he is STILL the boss and he is NOT taking beatings from any of these fighters…

Posted December 25, 2013 4:11 pm 


PEEJ

Wow same thing Pac did against Margacheato and the same way he has been put in the mandatory position. But yet you are just hating on Canelo

Posted December 25, 2013 4:11 pm 


Man Machine

Canelo won his Jr.middleweight VACANT world title in match up against Matthew Hatton, who Euro level welterweight who somehow managed to qualify for a vacant title clash at Jr. middleweight. How do you spell JOSE SULIMAIN and NEPOTISM Again?When are fans going to realize all that glitters is not golden?

Posted December 25, 2013 4:10 pm 


Fan

Pbf is a true pussy . When it comes to pac

Posted December 25, 2013 4:05 pm 


Anonymous

modern boxing where the best fight the best.next up the great amir khan. LOL

Posted December 25, 2013 4:04 pm 


PEEJ

See that catch weight drained at the scales is bogus considering Canelo side was the one that said they would come down to 152. Fight before he was 153. After the Cintron fight he called Floyd out at 150. Also all this he isn’t in his prime yet is false. They guy has been fighting since he was 14 or 15. He grew up in the pro system. Had 40 something fights. He has learned what he is gonna learn and is pretty much in his prime. Now we will see what he does after the loss.

Posted December 25, 2013 4:03 pm 


Man Machine

Some of the haters said Floyd would never fight Canelo, but haters are always looking for an excuse to hate.

I haven’t claimed Canelo is a bum, he’s not. But fact is he’s not the threat he was sold as. He was woefully lacking in experience at fighting against top flight opposition to pose a real threat. All he had was his size advantage and youth, but his youth was more of a hindrance than an advantage what with how little top flight inexperience he had. And his size advantage wasn’t so much of an advantage for him after Floyd pulled the catch weight drain him dry on the scales nonsense.

Posted December 25, 2013 3:57 pm 


Ghetto Thug

Havoc/hec dog/chicago guy the same $hi+ talker with different names

Posted December 25, 2013 3:55 pm 


Ghetto Thug

Money May does not deserve the fighter or the year award but the best best ever fighter award, let the suckas haters like this “writter” hate

Posted December 25, 2013 3:53 pm 


Hidalgo

“The race for fighter of the year isn’t even close…no other fighter could possibly dictate the direction of the sport like Floyd Mayweather. ”

Joseph, what exactly, is the “direction” that Mayweather is taking the sport to?

Posted December 25, 2013 3:47 pm 


PEEJ

That was all said. Canelo never really fought a Jr Middle except for Trout whom I thought Trout won. But people still kept saying Floyd would never step up fight Canelo. But once he did of course all the excuses started coming out. Also it is pretty easy to break down most boxers records also.

Posted December 25, 2013 3:46 pm 


Man Machine

Apologies meant to say Old man Carlos Baldomir. Damn predictive test drives me bananas.

Posted December 25, 2013 3:41 pm 


Man Machine

Canelo was a media created ”beast”, but in reality he was woefully inexperienced against top flight opposition, weight drained, and at least 2 or 3 years removed from reaching his prime. He’d never beaten anyone genuinely world class his own size, and the only decent names he did beat were shot beyond belief. And he received a complete gift against Trout.

Look at his his best wins if you think I’m just hating.

Old and Carlos Baldomir – shot beyond belief.

Lovemore Ndou – a way past his best, much naturally smaller washed up old punch bag who was merely average in his prime.

Matthew Hatton – much naturally smaller Euro level fighter.

Ryan Rhodes – way past his best, had been competing at domestic level for years.

Alfonso Gomez – another way past his best punch bag who was nothing to write home about in his prime.

Kermit Cintron – and another one.

Shane Mosley – shot beyond belief

Josesito Lopez – what the hell was he doing up at junior-middleweight? Terrible match up.

Austin Trout – A fight I thought Canelo lost clearly.

Canelo does possess talent, but there’s a whole lot of media hype and Jose Sulamain nepotism to compliment that talent.

Posted December 25, 2013 3:38 pm 


Granger

GREAT ARTICLE!! Only Mayweather’s blind and deluded Kool-Aid drinker “fans” could deny the conclusion. Real boxing fans know he is a sissy of a champion, who has run from the best in their prime. Definitely not an all time great or even the greatest of his generation. In fact, the reality is, he has not even proven to be the best of his weight class… he ran and ran and ran and is still running from Pacquiao (Which is terribly revealing)!!

Posted December 25, 2013 3:37 pm 


The Honeybadger

Money, despite the catch weight fights, has some very good wins against very good opponents, Marquez being the exception, being great, but being severely handicapped. Rigo, Bradley, or Maidana deserve the nod. IMO it should be Bradley.

Posted December 25, 2013 3:36 pm 


Tachyon

Merry Christmas ESB debating with you guys makes my days fun. lets hope 2014 is an outstanding year for boxing.

Posted December 25, 2013 3:33 pm 


PEEJ

Just because Floyd is better than the fighters he has faced and nobody was able to give him a fight does not mean he is cherry picking. No he does not deserve fighter of the year. But beating someone whom many people said he would never fight deserves some type of praise. Only after signing and beating him did people start saying that he cherry picked him and Canelo had no chance.

Posted December 25, 2013 3:33 pm 


KILLA

Just because we are boxing critics fans. We are notHATERS. We love the sport and will continue criticizing what we think is B.S.

Posted December 25, 2013 3:27 pm 


Rod

In NO way, shape or form does Floyd Mayweather deserve Fighter of the Year for 2013. Absolute joke and only Floyd nuthuggers or gullible clowns would even think it.

Posted December 25, 2013 3:27 pm 


KILLA

Maidana deserves fighter of the year.He was a 5:1 underdog and beat the black off Broner. I see that a lot of Mayweather hardcore fans confused hate with merit. Listen, most of us respect Mayweather, his accomplishments, and business state of mind, however we recognized that he has cherry pick opponents and always takes minimum risk that is not hate, it is actually criticism from boxing fans, don’t confuse it with HATE!!.

Posted December 25, 2013 3:24 pm 


third world

what a f***ing sham. thats what they got out of this year? he would say he is god himself and 90% of everyone would believe it. is everyone taking crazy pills? c’mon man. great fights this year but the business end is business as usual with tv loud mouths who learn all the catchy boxing terms and think they are experts. i am sorry but when does floyd finally fight someone who is a real threat? a fighter that takes him so deep that it produces the greatness that is there or shows him the end of the rainbow?

Posted December 25, 2013 3:16 pm 


PEEJ

So the sweet science is boring to you. That has nothing to do with fighter of the year, it has everything to do with hit and not be hit. Like the sweet science is supposed to be.

Posted December 25, 2013 2:55 pm 


prince

@The Greatest, well said!

Posted December 25, 2013 2:48 pm 


Joseph Herron

The race for fighter of the year isn’t even close…no other fighter could possibly dictate the direction of the sport like Floyd Mayweather.

No other fighter had the impact on boxing like Floyd…there isn’t a close second.

It isn’t ignominy…it’s ignorance.

Posted December 25, 2013 2:45 pm 


Havoc

No excitement, mr. Sweet Science aka boring style can’t be equal to fighter of the year.

Posted December 25, 2013 2:31 pm 


PEEJ

I read it. For the most part I agree. But it is still a close race. And for the simple fact that Garcia was the underdog in most if not all his fights this year.

Posted December 25, 2013 2:31 pm 


Young.L

Yall.stop d hate! Mayweather is d best fighter ever! you hataz who talk bad about him are gonna be d same ones braggin ta ya kids about being lucky enough ta have watched d greatest boxer of all d time live!

Posted December 25, 2013 2:29 pm 


Rasputin

Read my post addressing the Stevenson vs Kovalev debate PEEJ. Kovalev just nips it for me for the reasons I have outlined.

Posted December 25, 2013 2:21 pm 


The Greatest

Absolutely diabolical article. Prior to the Canelo fight May weather was fighting who many described as a monster: the unified 154lb champion. Now after a dominant unanimous decision, Canelo is supposed to be some overrated hype job. It’s great being so wise after the event – as the saying goes ‘haters gonna hate’. Pacquiao has turned down the fight multiple times already, with excuses ranging from ‘I have a phobia of needles’ whilst sporting tattoos and the Arum classic that they don’t have enough time to build a stadium for the fight.

Once mayweather dismantles pacquiao, what will you haters be saying then? Oh, he cherry picked, PAC was coming off 2 losses, PAC was too small, PAC was past it, blah blah. Then the hate will move onto demanding that mayweather, arguably a 140lber. Should be fighting GGG at 160. Is it Ward after that? Stevenson? Kovalev?

Face the facts: you’re witnessing true greatness. May weather might be arrogant/childish, I certainly think that, but don’t let that take away from the fact he’s arguably the greatest boxer that has ever lived.

Posted December 25, 2013 2:21 pm 


PEEJ

GGG is not fighter of the year. He didn’t fight great comp. He did manhandle all of them but the top comp no. But I still think he is the best 160lb fighter

Posted December 25, 2013 2:14 pm 


PEEJ

Wasn’t even thinking about Garcia. He also deserves it. As far as Stevenson goes, he won the Lineal Championship and also redeemed an earlier loss. Not to mention took Cloud to school and stopped him. Something Hopkins couldn’t do. Kovalev did beat some decent comp.

Posted December 25, 2013 2:14 pm 


JJ

Floyd no way! Stevenson, Kovalev, Garcia and Golovkin would all deserve it more and that’s just a few I could mentiom.

Posted December 25, 2013 2:13 pm 


Havoc

Even if Floyd grows some balls and fight Manny and beat him, on my book he can’t be fighter of the year because his style is more like avoiding and limiting the action to a mediocre fight. If anything he should win or get for is him being called Mr. Money May No excitement fighter of the decade award.

Posted December 25, 2013 2:11 pm 


Truth Teller

Fighter of the year is often times more of a popularity contest than it is based on merit…Floyd does not deserve to be fighter of the year. I personally believe that Danny Garcia deserves that distinction. That being said, Canelo was a very dangerous opponent and Floyd deserves a lot of credit for winning that fight. It was only one fight though. Garcia kept beating guys throughout the year that he wasn’t supposed to beat. This is one of the most competitive years I can remember when it comes to fighter of the year distinction….you can also make a case for Stevenson, Rigondeauiox and Tim Bradley. If Mayweather wins fighter of the year this year, the award will lose all credibility with me.

Posted December 25, 2013 2:07 pm 


Rasputin

Rasputin

Chad Dawson might have been the lineal champion when Adonis Stevenson beat him, but don’t forget Gabriel Campillo should’ve also been the unified WBA/IBF champ when Kovalev blitzed him. Campillo had been the victim of a pair of disgraceful decisions when he fought Shumenov and Cloud. Had it not been for those two outright robberies that went against him in the those fights Campillo would’ve been on a five year long winning streak when he fought Kovalev, and you could even make a strong case for it being six if you include the first Murat fight which I’ve heard was also a terrible decision.

Nathan Cleverly was undefeated when Kovalev trounced him and Sergey deserves extra credit for travelling into hostile territory in the lion’s den to beat him in front of his home crowd. So those wins over Cleverly and Campillo should’ve bagged Kovalev three belts to put in his trophy cabinet and he should really be the unified WBA/IBF and WBO champion now.

Kovalev also blitzed a 21-1 solid contender in Cornelius White in three effortlessly destructive rounds too. White had taken the big punching top-ten rated Dmitry Sukhotsky to school in his previous outing. Sukhotsky’s only loss going into that fight was a highly controversial UD to the then WBO champ Jurgen Brahmer in a fight many felt the referee had robbed him of a scoring a clear stoppage win.

Kovalev then effortlessly sparked out the talented and dangerous yet fragile chinned Ismayl Sillakh in blisteringly brutal fashion in a little less than four minutes to cap off the year.

When Chad Dawson fought Adonis Stevenson he was coming off a demoralizing stoppage loss against Andre Ward. Granted he was obviously very weight drained for that fight but he was still coming off an uncompetitive bad stoppage loss nonetheless.

A little titbit of trivia. Dawson also got manhandled by one of his sparring partners all throughout the Ward camp. The identity of the sparring partner? It was a fighter named Lionell Thompson,. Yes that’s the same Lionell Thompson who Kovalev would subsequently go on to pulverize in a little over six minutes a week or two later.

Tavoris Cloud had suffered consecutive back-to-back losses when Stevenson fought him (I refuse to accept the judges score cards when decisions are that bad.

Darnell Boone had lost three back-to-back when he fought Stevenson too, one of them being a two round stoppage blowout to Kovalev.

Tony Bellew had already been beaten by Kovalev KO victim Cleverly. And let’s not forget Bellew had also been awarded a gift draw against the Malawi born but South-African based Isaac Chilemba only two fights before he fought Stevenson.

All of Stevenson’s opponents with the exception of Bellew were coming off one-sided stoppage defeats or multiple back-to-back loses, but all of Kovalev’s were coming off wins, discounting the judges farcical score cads. Cleverly was unbeaten. White had won five on the trot. Campillo hadn’t lost in nearly five years and Sillakh had won four on the trot, albeit at a lower level. So truth be told Kovalev is the rightful unified WBA/WBO and IBF champion and Cleverly >> Bellew and Campillo >> Cloud.

Posted December 25, 2013 2:07 pm 


PEEJ

He is not the fighter of the year but he definitely deserves honors for it. I would think someone like Stevenson should get that honor

Posted December 25, 2013 2:03 pm 


Zoo

So now Canelo wasnt a challenge? Unbelievable. Trash article. Straight garbage.

Posted December 25, 2013 1:57 pm 


Hex Dog

If PBF wants to be the best, he’s gotta beat the best! I want him to face Torreocampo 2014! Where that dude at? Lol

Posted December 25, 2013 1:54 pm 


Prof Konje

The days of a champion fighting the next person in line is a thing of the past thanks to egos such as Golden Boy and Top Rank. WE, as fans, will not get to see the best against the best because of petty differences. But let me guess who the writer thinks should be the “fighter of the year.” He’s Pacquaio crazy so that would be his choice. Actually, any choice will do for him as long as it isn’t Mayweather.

Posted December 25, 2013 1:53 pm 


skinnysteve

who gives a crap it’s nothing but politics anyway

Posted December 25, 2013 1:38 pm 


smooth

as we can see reni doesn’t know the art of boxing .the hate just pour’s from spanish writer’s every were .they hate a skill’s but they love a mexican who can’t stop using those big head’s as weapon’s. reni that is not boxing .you won’t get your mexican champ no way soon all your hopes were on jello=canelo and he got whipped bad that is what you should write .how floyd dominated the guy’s you all souped up and made it look easy and that reni shpw’s his greatness .he took belt’s from champion’s undefeated and set record’s ang number’s .so grow up as a writer and be more smarter instead of setting on the sideline running your mouth. and he is the one all fighter’s and all road’s .want some of what money has

Posted December 25, 2013 1:38 pm 


KILLA

This writer is telling actual facts. Boxing is a sport not a paperview contest. Mayweather thinks that by selling more paperviews he should automatically be the best. Mayweather is avoiding the fight that matters for his career because he is afraid to lose. If someone needs to be awarded for paperview sells it should be Golden Boy Promotions and Showtime not a boxer.

Posted December 25, 2013 1:37 pm 


Man Machine

My sentiments exactly. No way Mayweather is Fighter of the Year. He only fought two times and both of his opponents were overrated. Guerrero is a career feather/super-feather & lightweight and there’s no way he should ever have been sharing a ring with Mayweather unless they were doing a bit of light sparring with each other. A brace of wins over crappy Selcuk Aydin and the grossly overrated hype job Andre Berto up at 147 doesn’t impress me in the slightest. Berto is distinctly average in a terrible era (and I’m being really generous and kind to him when I say he’s average) and Aydin is even worse.

Fighting Canelo was certainly a step up from Guerrero, but once again as per usual with Mayweather it’s a case of things not quite being as glittery as they appear to be on the surface. Canelo is the very definition of a media creation. He’d consisted on an exclusive diet of ham and eggers, toothless OAPS, most of whom he was much bigger than too.

The only world class prime opponent he fought was Austin Trout, but I don’t care what anyone says Trout got robbed blind in that one. There was no way they were going to give the decision to him in that fight and blow all that mula Canelo’s fanbase brings in. Trout brings nothing at all to the pot and his fanbase consists of a few family members and close personal friends. He isn’t even that good either. The only world class opponent he’d beaten was a cooked goose Miguel Cotto. Lara well and truly exposed Trout’s pretensions to be anything more than a contender.

Another thing that takes a lot of the shine of Mayweather’s win over Canelo was all the catch weight nonsense. It wasn’t enough of an advantage for Mayweather that he was facing someone who was sorely lacking the essential experience against top flight opposition to prepare them for a fight of that magnitude, or that they were also about 5 years away from reaching their prime, Mayweather also wanted to drain every ounce of energy and life out of them on the scales too.

Canelo is already fighting in a division he outgrew 18 months ago and having to drop an additional 2lbs on top of that clearly took an awful lot out of him. Mayweather should’ve just fought him at 154 if he wanted to receive full credit for the win. But instead he choose option 2, make sure your opponents is as weak as possible by demanding a catch weight.

Posted December 25, 2013 1:20 pm 


Edgar Guevara

People for Canelo, it happen, he jump to Jr middleweight. People are never satisfy.

Posted December 25, 2013 1:16 pm 


Boxing Fan

Thanks for the post writer it’s getting clearer Mayweather is no great boxer and I would like to think Golovkin will rise to beat idol Floyd after he beat Pac. For this year’s award I vote for Timothy Bradley because although he lacks power he doesn’t lack courage to fight and fight again Pacman

Posted December 25, 2013 1:13 pm 


GaryintheBronx

If May can beat Bradley he’s put his thumb into the preverbal wax seal. Pac is a blown up Lightweight who’s lost many times. With 4 fights remaining on his Showtime contract it will be bum of the month until he faces Tim and his rock solid resume.

Posted December 25, 2013 1:12 pm 


Pete

We don’t need illegals picking fruit with Fraud picking all these cherries.

Posted December 25, 2013 1:07 pm 


Edgar Guevara

Mayweather has fought good opposition, young guys that are suppose to expose him, nothing happens. He is great and remains until.

Posted December 25, 2013 1:03 pm 


Poop

No I don’t, Im just their poop better than them

Posted December 25, 2013 1:02 pm 


Poop

Shhhhhhhh…. dogs hear ya, they support Floyd Mayweather

Posted December 25, 2013 1:01 pm 


yo

The blame lies with mayweather’s fans.

They worship him unconditionally, and SUPPORT his
refusal to fight Pacquiao.

They reward floyd monetarily for ducking Pacquiao, and
constantly defend him on the web.

Thank God that Leonard’s fans wanted to see him
face Hagler, Hearns, and Duran.

They did not sink to the level of sycophants.

Posted December 25, 2013 12:56 pm 


icerock 68

Jay rock please!clottey ,Margarito,cotto,Rios,he beat bradleys ass you call that cherry picking hmm ,does baldomir and Arturo gatti count

Posted December 25, 2013 12:51 pm 


Edgar Guevara

Mayweather is a great fighter, so is Pacquiao. If they the fight happen okay, if he doesn’t other fighters have courage to challenge with not excuses.

Posted December 25, 2013 12:41 pm 


prince

I dont think that Alvarez was a soft opponent but a someone many people gave a real chance of beating Floyd. I dont know what some of these authors think, they trash Mayweather but praise Klitschko who fights former sparring partners and over the hill punching bags.

Posted December 25, 2013 12:27 pm 


Hecdog

On Christmas day, Mayweather continues his DUMB Childish ways as he posts a picture of Manny and Freedie combined saying “Meet my new friend Manny Roach, Floyd continues playing around like a 5 year old girl why Mann Pacquiao is out helping people that were devastated in his country. Mayweather is a complete joke! As you can see, Manny Pacquiao is always on his mind.

Posted December 25, 2013 12:24 pm 


Jay rock

I don’t support both of them, but manny and Mayweather both cherry pick there oppents

Posted December 25, 2013 12:21 pm 


Poop

Shhhh.. dogs still support Mayweather

Posted December 25, 2013 12:17 pm 


Jay rock

Listen Manny cherry picked for years!

Posted December 25, 2013 12:13 pm 


Hecdog

Great article! Floyd Mayweather has made a mockery of boxing. He needs to retire and go away for good.

Posted December 25, 2013 12:09 pm 


Seamus O’Hooligan

the champ should fight the mandatory challenger,not pick and choose…

Posted December 25, 2013 12:05 pm 



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