callum smith is a fighter to look out for lightning fast handspeed an real good punching power.Posted December 28, 2013 9:44 am
Groves should be happy Froch won’t rematch him. Froch would KO him faster next time. Sure Groves is a slicker boxer, but Froch doesn’t quit – just keeps going until he decks you.Posted December 28, 2013 7:37 am
Freddie Roach Ate My Hamster
Froch vs Calzaghe whining again?! Froch was #1 contender for Joe’s belt & missed out because Joe went for a bigger money fight instead. Whinging like little girls because the #1 contender had the gall to want the big money title fight is pathetic – still holding a grudge against him years later says more about you than it does about either fighter.
The Groves situation is different because he wasn’t #1 contender, Froch did fight him and Joe showed no interest in giving Robin Reid a rematch, despite it being his most hotly contested result. Some people need to get off their high horses and engage their brains.
For the record, if Froch fought Calzaghe for the title I think he’d have lost in a similar fight to Calzaghe vs Kessler.Posted December 28, 2013 7:27 am
GROVES DID NOT GIVE DEGALE REMATCH SO WHY SHOULD FROCH GIVE HIM ONE WHEN HE HAS LOADS OF OPTIONS GROVES SHOULD GIVE DEGALE A REMATCH 1STPosted December 28, 2013 6:46 am
Spot on. I always laugh when I hear Froch would beat Calzaghe. He should thank Joe for not derailing his lucky career.Posted December 28, 2013 6:01 am
And yes, Calzaghi probably would’ve beaten Froch, given him a rematch and beat him again… and again in a trilogy.Posted December 27, 2013 8:56 pm
I wouldn’t actually say that Froch is scared of Groves, boxing is a business and right now it would be a BAD business move. And… how anxious world anyone be to go back into a burning building?? Groves won’t sit around waiting for Froch and will accept the best offers made even if it means suffering another loss or two. I’ll be the first to admit that Froch has had more success than I and many others ever expected. I believe that he will soon peek out but until then he will continue to give us fans good action and pleasing fights.Posted December 27, 2013 8:50 pm
“I never thought I would see the day when Carl Froch became a coward, but it is obvious that he is afraid of Groves………..”
Yep, my feelings exactly.Posted December 27, 2013 8:13 pm
I like froch, fun to watch but would you be eager to rematch groves ifvyou got your ass wipped like froch was getting ? LolPosted December 27, 2013 7:33 pm
Calzaghe would have beat Froch 120-108Posted December 27, 2013 5:34 pm
And BTW, Calzage would have UD Froch 118 to 110, ten out of ten times!Posted December 27, 2013 3:34 pm
Froch’s skill level is NOT as high as he thinks it is. What Froch has a lot of, is conditioning, determination, decent power, and a decent chin, but I would say his pure skill level is only a B+. Ward will hand him his a s s AGAIN, probably easier this time. And its funny how Froch b itched and b itched about Calzage retiring, and “not giving him a chance”, when he has maybe 2 fights left, and Groves is still only 25. He should take one more big money fight, and give the kid a chance to beat him in the rematch.Posted December 27, 2013 3:32 pm
Yes, Groves fought well enough to merit a rematch. Only a fool would dare complain if Froch happened to give him one. Under similar circumstances Rios rematched Alvarado, Corralles rematched Castillo… (too many examples to mention. No, Froch is not obligated and won’t because it’s too much of a risk considering the bigger fights he for sees ahead. Personally I’d want to see it but realistically I don’t expect it. Froch will lose again to Ward if it happens, whether in UK or wherever. Froch’s win over Bute may have gone to his head but Groves deflated his ego back too reality, that you can believe, although he’ll never admit it. But still. you gotta admire Froch. He came back from certain defeat to stop Taylor and barley (luckily?) got by Dirrell and has defeated top opposition. One might even consider him an over-achiever. Would love to see him in with Chavez Jr too, but it’s not the fight the Chavez camp is actually looking for right now, although Froch would jump at the opportunity, no doubt.Posted December 27, 2013 3:29 pm
Freddie Roach Ate My Hamster
Anyone calling Froch a coward knows nothing about boxing. He clearly has 2-3 fights left in him at this level and doesn’t want to carry on at a lower level. Froch wants redemption against Ward, I personally don’t think he can beat Ward but would a coward want to fight the best man in his weight range? He also wants to headline in Vegas – who wouldn’t? JCC Jnr’s offer would be the most lucrative of Froch’s career and a chance for that Vegas fight. How many boxers can you think of who would turn down their biggest payday in Las Vegas or the opportunity to exact revenge and fight the linear champ, to instead take a step backwards and maybe never get the big offer or revenge fight again?
Was Calzaghe a coward for signing off against RJJ instead of a Hopkins rematch? ODLH moved on rather than face Sturm again, who calls him a coward? My job doesn’t include risking my health and entire career every time I go to work, so I wouldn’t have the gall to call one of these warriors a coward.Posted December 27, 2013 2:30 pm
Froch’s mouth has turned me right off of him. He said in an interview he dominated the fight and Groves was down and out lol. Dilusional or what. His brother Lee is a disgrace to his whole family with the way he behaves on twitter.Posted December 27, 2013 2:28 pm
Groves is an arrogant kid who thinks he should be handed things on a plate. He clearly kicked Frochs backside but is now belittling his excellent performance by crying like a spoiled child. Accept the truth Groves – you didnt do enough to win, man up and move on.Posted December 27, 2013 1:29 pm
I am or was a massive froch fan but the way he has handled himself after the fight has been very disappointing. He knows groves gave him the hardest fight of his career physically, ward schooled him but didn’t hurt him. He is right about calzaghe ducking rematches calzaghe ducked most of his career, I always thought he was better than that. As for groves de gale yes probably should have been a rematch but as carl knows boxing is a business and inevitably they can and probably will meet again when the money is right. I bought into the warrior stuff but it’s now looking like bs. So who next ward in the uk? Can u see eddie hearn paying £2m for him to come over , ward is great but utterly boring to watch. gennady golovkin will hit him all night and if his power carries I would really worry for froch. Talk of Chavez which would be a fight he doesn’t deserve but certainly one froch will win and be entertaining but not a big ppv draw in the uk. I really don’t see what other credible options he has I don’t think Stevenson is a good match up for him and forget kovalev.Posted December 27, 2013 1:27 pm
Very poor article!Posted December 27, 2013 1:16 pm
I’m showing no interest in Froch’s next match. Froch is now officially a joke. He should just retire. But if he moves up to LHW and gets KTFO I wouldn’t mind seeing that either (against either Kovalev or Stevenson).Posted December 27, 2013 12:58 pm
id want an immediate rematch too if i believe i won and i have 90% of the fans backing me and believing i did also..yezzir!Posted December 27, 2013 12:26 pm
Who wrote this joke of an article, Froch’s mother?Posted December 27, 2013 11:00 am
Froch doesn’t owe groves anything. The ref made the call to stop the fight not froch. If everyone who loses a boxing match can just whinge in the media and expect a rematch then the sport is doomed. Surely groves signed up to the fight knowing the politics of boxing would be in place. Besides, if he never allowed himself to get hit frequently just before the stoppage then the ref would not even have had a decision to make. Stop whining George, move on.Posted December 27, 2013 7:50 am
Look,the fight may have an unsatisfactory ending,and Froch may be weighing up his options,he may even feel he’s lost something,but anyone who calls him a coward is a disgrace to this sport.Look at who he’s fought,often in their backyard.Is groves a coward for not rematching DeGale or Anderson? I agree that Froch should rematch Groves,from just the cash it would generate and to stop all this whingeing one way or another.But call the guy a coward,that’s just low.Posted December 27, 2013 7:34 am
bud the chud
SWEDISH BOXING FAN – but lennox lewis knew he would either have to fight vitali again or retire, he chose retirement, I was once a huge froch fan but every bit of respect I had for was lost after his post fight ringside interview sitting alongside groves, his comment of only a few people are booing has scary parallels with lewis’s one which was I wouldn’t say they were booing larry lol… delusion at its finest!Posted December 27, 2013 7:05 am
froch you have been a warrior but you aint now. an you know it you know these young fighters are too much for you.Posted December 27, 2013 5:14 am
@rich wanting to fight Julio cesar chavez jr is ducking the real challenges he got whooped by groves until he got luckt stoppage. an knows groves would win the rematch I also think degale would beat him.Posted December 27, 2013 5:12 am
DRAINPIPE…what has Froch done that makes you announce he is running scared….The only thing running is peoples mouths on here..Posted December 27, 2013 5:07 am
also keep your eye on frank buglioni callum smith an rocky fielding of uk. all 3 unbeaten an looking promising. an along with groves an degale theres some big domestic fights to come involving those them.Posted December 27, 2013 4:59 am
froch is running scared an would get beat by groves in rematch. as groves will take his time in rematch an keep some energy for later rounds. frochs days are numbered he has been a good fighter but is time is up. I also think james degale would beat him.Posted December 27, 2013 4:52 am
Farmboxer…..Explain how Froch is a coward and just how is he afraid of someone he has just beaten….Posted December 27, 2013 3:42 am
Groves has upped his street cred more by loosing than winning the fight…Groves has always thought he has been treated unjustly,and criticized decisions,as an amateur he winged about not being selected for the Beijing Olympic Games claiming his face didn’t fit .There is no blame,or injustice on this fight.that’s how the ref called it….so don’t be a sore loser…you’ll get your shot again….Who knows, it’s not given you can’t take FrochPosted December 27, 2013 3:39 am
I never thought I would see the day when Carl Froch became a coward, but it is obvious that he is afraid of Groves………..Posted December 27, 2013 2:26 am
Some Random Guy – That’s exactly why you are some random guy and Carl Froch is one of the most successful boxers in the world you tit!Posted December 27, 2013 2:10 am
Froch has made some valid points in not fighting Groves; most importantly he realizes he doesnt have to humiliate himself with those crisp shots thats Groves landed on him at will. Groves wouldv been more determined & better! Again, Froch nevertheless has good points regarding not giving the rematch, not the one where he says he had him “down & out.” Premature stoppage for sure, imo. Groves surprisingly has some REAL SKILZ!!!Posted December 27, 2013 12:16 am
elbilly you’re a nit wit… Froch beat Kessler easily in Denmark. He was robbed blind.. He landed more and harder punches and had Kessler going 3 times.. The referee kept running in whenever Kessler was in trouble.. Jim Lampley did a full rundown with stats and charts before the 2nd fight — to show Froch’s superiority and how he got robbed.
Forch got the right verdict when they fought in England. He won 10 rounds and coasted 2.. Kessler couldn’t beat a fighter of that caliber.. He’s one of the more inept boxers ever seen at the world level. Calzaghe even said if he missed any punches it was his fault because Kessler didn’t duck any. Maybe MK could beat Chavez Jr. That’s his speed.Posted December 26, 2013 11:47 pm
Swedish Boxing Fan
I like Carl Froch and find him to be a great world super middleweight world champion BUT his last world title defence against George Groves was not ending in a way comftrble for Froch as winner and champion.
I feel its more then fare to give Groves a rematch as it was a hard fought battle that could have went either way and Groves did enough to at least deserve a rematch, common Carl Froch, show people that you are a great champion and once again convince the major public that the world title belts are yours.
Ducking a rematch with George Groves will hurt your career. This is not a case to compare with the 2003 world title fight with fellow Brittish Lennox Lewis vs. Vitali Klitschko. In that fight the stoppage was NOT premature or unjustified as Klitschko’s eyes could been in permanent injure risk if not waived off. You hurt Groves but it probebly was premature.
Be a great champion.Posted December 26, 2013 9:29 pm
Let´s get the facts right !
And you suckPosted December 26, 2013 8:11 pm
Tark…….your a prick!!!Posted December 26, 2013 7:55 pm
Froch doesn’t need to rematch Groves. He needs to fight Ward in England … Andre is willing to skip across the pond to meet him so why not?
It’s not going to be a lot different than their first fight… No knockdowns… no 8 counts… no hard punches scored on Ward… no stoppage… no FOTY happening… Just people thinking, “We saw this movie before.”
Ward would love to fight Groves.. He’ll stop him.. George has Dawson’s chin and Kessler’s finesse.Posted December 26, 2013 7:50 pm
Surprise, surprise, surprise!Posted December 26, 2013 7:50 pm
some random guy
If Froch doesn’t give Groves a rematch he’s a cowardPosted December 26, 2013 7:14 pm
I’ve been a fan of Froch’s for years but he’s tarnishing his rep by avoiding the rematch. He was always a sportsman even if a bit arrogant. Now he comes off as unsportsmanlike given the absurd stoppage in a fight he was behind in.Posted December 26, 2013 6:25 pm
Lol at Tark..
lol.Posted December 26, 2013 5:57 pm
Tark,, Put the bottle down u madmanPosted December 26, 2013 5:43 pm
testPosted December 26, 2013 5:42 pm
Calzaghe wouldn’t beat Froch because it’s the worst possible style for him.
Bute got blown out because he comes in with his head exposed and Froch just clobbered him. Calzaghe would get caught with a zillion uppercuts by Froch and taken out in the same manner as Bute.Posted December 26, 2013 5:38 pm
I don’t tank the stoppage was bad Forch would have koed a gassed groves but do to the fact groves was winning up until the tank ran dry he deserves a rematch plus it was a good fight and Froch got put down he can’t let groves get away with that. Rematch would be a good draw.Posted December 26, 2013 5:20 pm
Do you blame him?.Posted December 26, 2013 4:55 pm
No need for a rematch when your opponent is totally gassed in Round 9 and was taking a beating that would of got a lot worse. Credit to Groves for giving it everything and almost pulling off the win. Unfortunately for him, Froch has something rare today, even in fighters, he won’t quit and will keep coming forward. A rematch would see an even faster ending as Groves (vs Froch) is mentally beaten from the start after what happened.
In their primes I still say Calzaghe would of won a UD vs Froch.
I still want to see Ward fight Froch in the UK. I just want to see Ward fight out of his comfort zone to see how he performs.Posted December 26, 2013 4:54 pm
Froch would have killed Calzaghe.
Calzaghe was a major cherry-picker who never fought a prime fighter who could box… Even Groves and Cleverly out-boxed Kessler every day in camp.
Groves doesn’t deserve a rematch with Froch.
He got taken out. The next guy who referees one of Groves fights will let him get knocked out cold. That’s better than listening to his yammering and complaining about an early stoppage.Posted December 26, 2013 4:47 pm
“The referee stopped the contest and there is no arguing about the fact he was down and out.”
Err, Carl, in case you haven’t noticed, people have been arguing about it since the moment it happened.
You can duck Groves, but remember: Kessler did not duck a rematch with you, and even Ward is willing to give you a rematch (despite the fact that he schooled you good and proper with one hand).
In short, if you duck Groves, that’s all you’ll be remembered for — and that’s coming from someone who’s always been a fan.Posted December 26, 2013 4:39 pm
It was a bad stoppage and he definitely deserves a rematch. If he doesn’t get one it isn’t the end of the world. It was an optional defense from what Froch says. Groves will have to get back in line unfortunately.Posted December 26, 2013 4:38 pm
The more Froch talks the more I dislike him…..I liked him better when he wasn’t on Sky……then I wouldn’t hear him talk so muchPosted December 26, 2013 4:16 pm
I think that the ref saved Groves from a serious beating. It’s a little bit sad for Froch because he probably made the comeback of the year and people talks like he did not deserve the W.Posted December 26, 2013 4:10 pm
Ghostman ( The Son Of The Wolf )
Yeah I mean come on the ref took it from Groves ! Funny cause Froch disrespected Calzaghe for years YET he thought he deserved to fight Joe ?Posted December 26, 2013 4:09 pm
no big surprise there. high risk damn near no reward. run froth, run to retirement. your done anyway.Posted December 26, 2013 3:59 pm