Ward does suc,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, son of god cant knock down a 10 year old on ice skates. Ward is king of the worse 168 div known to man. the 168 div is full off b-fighters at best. Ward’s noted wins is Kessler , and that fight was awful to watch, the foul a thon. Froch sucks and Dawson just got his clock cleaned out by adonis, something ward couldnt come close to when dawson was sucked up at 170Posted January 25, 2014 6:44 am
Someone said ward was a class act, more like a dancing puzzzzzyPosted January 7, 2014 3:08 am
Ward sucksPosted January 7, 2014 3:03 am
Hello Guys. I was on here before a while back and now I just want to let you know i am willing to school this new kid, George Groves. I won’t even have to do a full training camp for him. Give me ten weeks and a couple of sparring partners, a double-end bag and a couple of hills and i will make the win over Lacy look like a life and death struggle. Groves is not on my level. Not now, not next year and not any year. I’m sure his mouth can get me a check for USD 10M easy.
Joe Calzaghe.Posted December 29, 2013 2:09 pm
Freddie Roach Ate My Hamster
American fans making jokes about others not travelling?! The only US fighters who travel lots do it for Wrestlemania. There was a saying in Europe (when crooks ran boxing) that if you go to fight in the US you need to knock the guy out to get a draw. It’s still the most insular country in the world and the TV networks’ fighter tends to get favourable matchmaking & favourable refereeing – some more than others of course.Posted December 29, 2013 6:15 am
Froch is warming to the rematch. I think Eddie can get seven figures for Carl. I like it for May or June 2014 with Froch winning by stoppage late on. Along the way, Groves will hit him with two right hands.Posted December 29, 2013 4:59 am
Lmao at the Brits who demand Ward travel to the UK to fight.
After the fiascos like Grove V Froch I wouldn’t let my fighter anywhere near the UK.Posted December 28, 2013 11:41 pm
Someone needs to tell anonymous that Andre Ward’s father is of white Irish decent :)Posted December 28, 2013 11:38 pm
I have a lot of respect for the Cobra, but it is clear he does not want to fight Ward. Let be real, Ward is the only meaningful fight out there for Frock. If Ward fights Grove and put him to sleep, Carl will have more pressure to fight Ward. I know the Cobra has more hart than Mayweather and he usually don’t play these type of games. It will look better for the Cobra to just make the fight with Ward. Who knows, Ward may be willing to come to the UK. The time is right.Posted December 28, 2013 6:56 pm
Europe is a continent….Posted December 28, 2013 3:23 pm
Would be a big deal in London if Ward was prepared to travel. Don’t think Froch can beat Ward but Groves is a better boxer and would adapt better to Ward’s awkward style.Posted December 28, 2013 12:40 pm
Haha! Not a bad pisstake of the yanks, but it’s a little overdone. I mean, admittedly your average American couldn’t locate Europe on a map but at least they know it’s not a *country*, one would hope!Posted December 28, 2013 11:17 am
Auz thats actually a fantastic comment. THE p4p list (RING) Is American, not to mention it favours GBP associated fighters for obvious reasons.Posted December 28, 2013 10:37 am
Also, good points below about George needing a better trainer, but no Adam Booth! Groves would have fought a typical Booth/Haye style horrible fight had he been training with Booth, pot shots, run away, hold etc..
There is no way Groves would have scored that knockdown of Froch with Booth calling the shots from teh corner, sure he probably wouldn’t have been hit as much and might have won a boring decision but few fans.Posted December 28, 2013 2:30 am
If Ward is willing to fight Groves I say let Groves take the fight, it isn’t often that a 20 fight newcomer gets to fight the 2 best Super middles in the wrld let alone the p4p # 2 fighter in the world in back to back fights.
Even if Groves loses to Ward it is an expected result, he wont take a bad beating from the feather fists of Ward and wnt suffer any permanent damage, on top of that he will gain invaluable experience.
Also, who knows, I would say Groves is better than a weight drained Rodriguez and Dawson, better than Froch from a technical standpoint, much better than Arthur Abraham etc… he might give Andre a good fight maybe even floor him.Posted December 28, 2013 2:26 am
JE…, It doesn’t matter which title is at stake… You can only win one title, in one night, fighting one fight, agains one fighter — that is generally the rule.
Ward’s 168 pound title was at stake, not Dawson’s 175 pound title… When Toney fought Barkley the 168-pound title was at stake, not Barkley’s 175-pound title.
Ray Leonard had the rule waved and he won 2 world titles, although both were 7 pounds under the LHW limit… It was a scam… Lalonde agreed to do it for the money. Normally if you’re defending a title, and that’s the weight you like to fight at — you’re never going to agree to fight 7 pounds under the limit and still risk losing it.Posted December 28, 2013 2:16 am
That’s not funny, are you trying to amuse me.
youtube.com/watch?v=7EJLoxdoI-QPosted December 27, 2013 11:46 pm
Ward V Groves PPV
youtube.com/watch?v=l-O5IHVhWj0Posted December 27, 2013 10:14 pm
Yea Stevenson (who I don’t care for) and Kovalev would be a real handful for Ward, they both have tremendious speed and power.
Thats why Ward wants Grooves now that he is still green.
My hope; Ward goes to Lhw, Kovalev becomes king of this division, Grooves improves even more, and becomes Smw king, after defeating Stieglitz and Froch, in that order.
Ward is a great fighter due to speed, inside game and ring intelligence, but he has few future fights, if he ducks Kovalev, Stevenson and Froch in the UK.
A lot of people don’t think that Ward has proven himself, by travelling, by making Dawson fx go down in weight, the dirty Kessler fight and so on.Posted December 27, 2013 8:45 pm
Apart from a rematch with Froch, it would be good to see Groves up against Kessler, and the winner of Stieglitz-Abraham. If he can beat these fighters and grab the straps (and I think he has a good chance), he’ll be in a position to fight Ward on more or less equal terms. But I hope he gets back with Adam Booth, or a similarly good trainer, because to beat Ward he’s going to need a world class trainer in his corner.
Anyway, good luck George!Posted December 27, 2013 8:30 pm
That said, Groves should get a better trainer, get more experience under his belt, and aim to get a title or two so that he can face Ward down the line in a year or two. Assuming that Groves is still improving, I think it could then be a really competitive fight. Of course, Ward may have moved up to 175 by then, but with the monstrous punchers Stevenson and (especially) Kovalev waiting for him there, I highly doubt it: like Floyd, he’s not the kind of fighter to take any risks, and won’t be doing anything to jeopardise his precious “0″ any time soon.Posted December 27, 2013 8:24 pm
I suspect Ward wants to fight and beat Groves now while he’s still young and green and inexperienced. In fact, I suspect that’s why Froch decided to fight him now too. I mean, who knows how much better he’ll get, and how soon?Posted December 27, 2013 8:20 pm
Who gives a care.. ward move back ta shotime and more ta 175. A lot of good fight @ dat weight. #realtalkPosted December 27, 2013 8:19 pm
Ward wins, but groves give ward problems for first 7.
If styles make fights then ward vs groves is a no brainer.Posted December 27, 2013 7:30 pm
Yeah seth proved that the great boxers play football. Good eye.Posted December 27, 2013 7:25 pm
Lord Kettersly Salinger the Victorian Gentleman Maths Ninja nice analysis but I have to disagree in the USA boxing has declined due to lack of participation before it used to be a way for the poor to move up and make money. Now days football, baseball, basketball, and soccer recruit good kids with potential from middle school guiding them all they way to college. Money is far more lucrative in theses sports. Boxing just not as popular from participation standpoint in the USA and will continue to decline as best athletes go to the top major sports. As a result you get fighters from other countries the fill the gaps not quite as talented but keep the sport of boxing going.Posted December 27, 2013 5:23 pm
Je and burt u boys are the truth !Posted December 27, 2013 4:25 pm
Lord Kettersly Salinger the Victorian Gentleman Maths Ninja
The propensity for males in the colonies to turn to lesser sports such as mens netball is interesting as a potential reason for the decline in the skill quality and all around gumption of the larger colonial pugilist.
I would counter this point however with the observation that there are what around 300 million people in the USA and what 30 NBA teams and 30 NFL teams in the whole country. Throw in a few Hockey teams, 30 baseball teams and you have a team for evey 3 million people
London (with a population in greater London of around 12 million) alone has 15 professional football teams, 4 professional rugby teams.
This equates to a team for every 6-7,00,000 people.
Now London even with more potential sports teams to draw competitiors away has still produced David Haye, Derek Chisora, Anthony JOshua, and ahem AUdley Harrison at HW in recent times, That is two Olympic gold medallists, and a two-weight world champion.
So I place only limited stock in this being a reason for the US decline, and instead lay it at the door of the fact there are now far far more compeititors from around the world, especially Eastern Europe.
It isn`t after all only HW where they are producing the goods, Kovalev at LHW, GGG at MW, LOmanchenko etc – these boys are talented, hungry, determined and now they have opportunities.Posted December 27, 2013 3:44 pm
I cant really call ANY fighter a p u ssy, not even floyd, and that saying A LOT!Posted December 27, 2013 3:21 pm
WARD is behind the 8 ball. Andre needs to fight someone BIG.Posted December 27, 2013 3:20 pm
Aint nothin pu ssy about Ward. He is a great fighter, headed toward even greater success in the future! In time, he will dismantle Kovelev, Stevonson, and anyone else who he fights. And I like the idea of him fighting Groves. Its a good way for both to fly a middle finger in Frochs face, and see how he does against Ward, compared to how Froch did. I like it!Posted December 27, 2013 3:15 pm
Andre ward is a P u s s yPosted December 27, 2013 3:03 pm
Ward should move up to 175, no tests left at 168 he’s just going through the motions.Posted December 27, 2013 2:57 pm
“If Ward wants to fight Groves, he should sign a 2-fight deal to face Groves (with Froch on same card) – then Froch in the rematch.” – Burt that’s an excellent idea. Of course it would be the winner of Ward-Groves who rematches Froch. Ward would make more money in the UK because both are legit Superfights there, plus he’d get paid in British pounds that would further multiply his paydays.Posted December 27, 2013 2:44 pm
JE I don’t deny that Easternn euro fighters could have been forces in the past but weren’t allowed in the pros. Whether or not you agree that team sports have affected the quality of us heavies, you must recognize that American heavyweights of today are not up to the standards of the past champions I named. Seth Mitchell turned to boxing late, he was a football player turned boxer when he couldn’t cut it. kinda proves my point. Succesfful boxers typically dedicate themselves to the sport early. Wilder, another late comer also started in basketball. Big men are turning to boxing initially less and less in America. Agree to disagree, I suppose.Posted December 27, 2013 2:25 pm
Decision – I don’t understand how u think Stevenson would maul ward. Stevenson wouldn’t be able to set up his power shots against ward. Ward’s crisp technique, slickness, inside game & strength would limit stevenson’s execution. Kovalev is another matter. That bout would be possibly fight of the year!!Posted December 27, 2013 2:19 pm
George Groves is a seriously determinned and fearless boxer, his career and training has been planned and pieced together very carefully, this possible matchup makes sense all over and will be a lot lot closer than all the poeple praising Ward think. Ward has the edge on the slickness and movement but Groves will tag him often. The only thing I can see is the risk to Groves who if he has two defeats in a row takles fives steps back, he may be advsied of this, but the kid has the balls of a lion and will not think like this…..nor should he hes a boxer. Mouthwatering prospect, hope it happens.Posted December 27, 2013 1:39 pm
Tark – It has been extremely rare that the heavier fighter’s title was not the one on the line. Until the advent of the alphabet titles, throughout most of the more than 100 years of the gloved-era, it was most often the case.Posted December 27, 2013 1:38 pm
…., “In prior times Ward would already be the 175 champion with his destruction of Dawson in a bout that was under the 175 LH limit”
James Toney KO’d Iran Barkley at 168 when Barkley held the 175lb title… That was in prior times and it didn’t make Toney the LHW champ.
You can’t win more than one world title, in one night, in one fight…
They only waved that rule for Sugar Ray Leonard when he wanted a good reason to duck Michael Nunn, Mike McCallum, and Julian Jackson, the top middleweight contenders, by fighting a weight drained Donny LaLonde for 2 world titles—so he could defend the 168-pound title at 160 … Pretty slick operating.Posted December 27, 2013 1:32 pm
Kovalev and Stevenson are too big a handful for Ward, both would Ko him, Kovalev is Froch with more speed and power, Stevenson just is an animal in the ring.
Ward is terrified of both, he never mentions them. Ward is a great fighter, but he wants to avoid fighters with speed.Posted December 27, 2013 1:22 pm
Despite the enduring fact that Froch is the best P4P in the UK, he is a distant second in the world at 168. There’s actually little interest in the US for a Froch-Ward rematch because the first match left zero doubt which fighter was better.
Fans in the UK and most of Europe are satisfied when their fighters hold ANY sort of belt and that’s fine for them. Fans in the US tend to see belts that are less than the real world title as just that, and they pay accordingly.
Time for Ward to move to 175 and collect some major paydays and another real World championship. (In prior times he would already be the 175 champion with his destruction of Dawson in a bout that was under the 175 LH limit).
Ward’s future needs to have Kovalev and Stevenson.Posted December 27, 2013 1:18 pm
If HBO buys the fight (and I think they should) it’s a legit match for Ward and another way to one-up Froch and cement Froch’s second-rate status at SMW. Kudos to Ward for taking on the guy who got screwed by the ref against Froch and has been treated poorly by that sore loser (‘winner’).Posted December 27, 2013 12:55 pm
Ward is really good. And there are no really good boxers at 168 to give him any kind of challenge. A little over a year ago Golovkin offered Rodriquez 450,000 to fight him. He issued a couple other offers to other guys at 168 but finally decided he needs to clean out 160 to get himself more status and make the money bigger.
Ward already has all the status at 168 he can get. The only huge money fights for AW are at 175 with Kovalev and Stevenson.
A Martinez fight would be big for Golovkin and so would a Quillin fight. He just needs to keep destroying the best 160-pounders who will fight and he’ll have all the belts at some point.
If GGG were an American or even an Englishman things would be different and these fights would have happened by now… but he sold out MSG against Stevens so the interest, drawing potential, and money will definitely be there for a murderous puncher vs somebody like Quillin or Martinez.Posted December 27, 2013 12:53 pm
Freddie Roach Ate My Hamster
Ward is a class act but like Hopkins for his entire MW reign, he doesn’t entertain enough and despite being inferior boxers, his opponents are often a bigger draw. Froch built himself back up while Ward was out injured & wants the rematch but (as usual with boxing) wants to plan the fight on his terms. Ward obviously wants it on his terms, as linear champ but has less financial clout. Hopkins had to concede terms for years for the same reason.
Poor Groves is being used as a pawn because JCC Jnr is trying to get a fight with Froch & that’s worth millions of dollars more than Ward. Besides Froch (who Ward would probably beat again), there’s very little at 168 for Ward. Kessler’s done, even if he wasn’t he wouldn’t fight Ward in the USA again after being head butted so frequently last time (poor refereeing can be conveniently overlooked and although Ward was the best in the Super Six, he did get favourable location & treatment). Stieglitz is a paper champ, as is Bika. The Dirrells both lack a little something and the rest of the top 10 would all lose by a landslide to Froch, let alone Ward.
Hopefully they’ll either fight in Vegas or Ward will travel abroad to prove a point. Groves would be a good future opponent for Ward (who’s better than Froch but won’t test his chin as much). I still think he’s a year or two away from that level. I’d be amazed if Froch fought him next, as that would mean backing down publicly and his ego won’t allow it.
To cut a long story short, unless Ward concedes terms he’ll face another gimme next & Froch will take the big money fight against Jnr before probably bowing out against Ward.Posted December 27, 2013 12:50 pm
Cobra being made to look silly by Ward.
Easy fight for Ward. The question is, where’s the money. It might not be with Groves.Posted December 27, 2013 12:33 pm
Rubio – If only it were true…. The NFL, NHL, NBA, and MLB all existed and were strong during the eras of Ali, Holmes, Tyson. The one variable that changed was the wave of eastern Europeans who were once relegated to amateur ranks due to communist rule. Can any of us really think boxing wouldn’t have been different in the 70′s and 80′s had eastern Europeans been in the mix? Of course it would’ve been. If Cuba becomes free you’ll see another significant shift (defecting Cubans have already made a difference).
We’ll have another American heavyweight champion and he’ll be crazy-rich in this PPV era. He’ll just have more and more diverse competition.
And, as for the notion that the best athletes of heavyweight size are in the team sports, one need only look at the rise and fall of Seth Mitchell to become aware of that false belief.Posted December 27, 2013 12:32 pm
Boxer`cosigned!!Posted December 27, 2013 11:55 am
Those who think andre ward is boring I think it’s time to make that UFC switch caus saying ward is boring is like saying Kobe and mj are boring caus like them ward does it all in the ring!Posted December 27, 2013 11:43 am
JE- it’s just the heavyweight division I think there is something to the notion that large athletes would rather play arena football or basketball in Europe. amateur programs in basketball have sprung up while boxing programs have declined. But hey, boxing is still a lucrative path for American athletes not big enough for those sports like Mayweather and ward. Imagine how exciting the division would be now with the integration of East euro heavyweights combined with America still cranking out heavies like Ali, Holmes, Tyson, etc.Posted December 27, 2013 11:27 am
Not a bad fight but…far from a great one.GGG vs Ward thats what I want to see!!!!!Posted December 27, 2013 10:07 am
American boxing has been “dying” for a very long time. Since the departure of Dempsey, Louis, Ali, Leonard, Tyson, etc… the sport was considered “dead;” except that it only became stronger. The great wave of eastern Europeans will once again force American fighters to get better.
It’s also worth considering that while boxing in America may not appear at its peak, at view at the world ratings shows a strong American presence in most divisions.Posted December 27, 2013 10:03 am
3G wants no part of Ward right now. They are staying at 160 right now. He called out Ward and Hopkins. When they said ok you didn’t here their names oming out of there mouths anymore.Posted December 27, 2013 9:58 am
Groves is an interesting opponent for Ward because he’s a fresh face who hasn’t yet been completely dominated by Andre. Groves hasn’t the skills or the power to pose much of a threat but, like Froch (and his compatriots Macklin, Murray, and Barker) he’ll put up an adequate struggle while getting thrashed. Andre sees the big fan base in the UK and lack of a real threat as being a good business decision.Posted December 27, 2013 9:57 am
America has good fighters coming up. American boxing will be just fine once Floyd retiresPosted December 27, 2013 9:56 am
uk also has paul butler Jamie conlan kid ghalad Frankie gavin an many more good young fighters an the yanks still keep putting us down.Posted December 27, 2013 9:28 am
the uk has better young talent I agree.carl Frampton luke Campbell john nevin khalid yafai scott quigg Stephen smith Jamie cox kell brooke martin murray Anthony agogo chris eubank jr billy joe saunders an is brother Bradley saunders john ryder George groves degale r fielding callum smith buglioni callum Johnson Tyson an Hughie fury Anthony josuah.Posted December 27, 2013 9:19 am
boxing in America is fading once mayweather retires an behind ward theres no great fighter from America an there isn’t that good crop of talent conig through theuk has Anthony josuah luke Campbell Anthony agogo john nevin Bradley saunders callum smith Tyson an Hughie fury groves degale rocky fielding callum Johnson Jamie cox just to name a few who as your so called mecca of boxing the united states got coming thru that is so special.Posted December 27, 2013 9:05 am
It was such a poor stoppage that it was bad for the sport …. it gave the impression that the ‘fix was in’ ….. especially considering that Froch was only a point down despite only really winning a couple of rounds.Posted December 27, 2013 9:03 am
why not fight in america the land of free PEDS.Posted December 27, 2013 9:01 am
Whats all this talk about going to the UK, is it because that’s the only way your fighters can win from the bias,nobodys that desperate, you guys have been cheating for years…no thank you..yezzzir!Posted December 27, 2013 8:57 am
people on here talking about groves gassing out after 8 9 rounds. simple question i thought modern fighters were so much fitter than old school fighters.Posted December 27, 2013 8:21 am
I’d rather see Ward defeat Froch in the UK. This should be an easy win for Ward, who is Froch’s kryptonite.Posted December 27, 2013 8:16 am
ward would beat kovalev who has kov fought an untested nathen cleverly a washed up campillo an a glass chin silikha he would also beat Adonis Stevenson.anyone who gets knocked out by darnel boone is not the 1 to end wards unbeaten streak.Posted December 27, 2013 7:57 am
Grooves outboxed and outgunned Froch, which was great to watch, but
Grooves needs to reproduce that powerful performance, against Stieglitz/Abraham or Kessler (If he comes back to boxing).
Then, if Ward really is willing to come to the UK, Grooves could try to go after Ward the same way, he did against Froch.
Ward would be expected to win against Grooves, but you need speed to beat Ward.
I didn’t think Grooves was ready for Froch, maybe he is about to get ready for Ward too, who is afraid of Stevenson and Kovalev.Posted December 27, 2013 7:49 am
Bad look for Froch. Ward is showing that he is willing to take on true challengers, which shouldn’t even be a topic for debate since he won the Super Six and other big event fights after that. But Detractors always find an excuse to hate someone because of personal reasons that have nothing to do with boxing.Posted December 27, 2013 7:48 am
Utmost not up most lolPosted December 27, 2013 7:33 am
Andre Ward is doing what is in his own interest. He may never be liked and he may never become a PPV draw but there is no arguing with the facts. he has cleaned out his own division. A Champion worthy of the title ‘champion’. Ward will do what Ward does best and he will take Groves to school who I have up most respect for and who lived up to the hype in the fight against Froch.Posted December 27, 2013 7:29 am
Wrong man won my arse, Groves was spent. Stoppage was terrible, but 20 seconds later and it would have been a great stoppage.Posted December 27, 2013 7:17 am
ward wins by 2 or 3 rounds on points but groves will only get better an would beat bika or steiglitz an froch in rematch so should fight 1 of those for now.Posted December 27, 2013 7:17 am
If this fight come off i will be pleased for Groves … he deserves this fight after his performance against Froch …. and that terrible stoppage. Ward would rightly be a huge betting favourite and rightly so. I am a Froch fan but the wrong man won that night. Ward has my respect for being the number one in the division and should beat Groves but Groves will go for it and have the belief he can win. Good match up.Posted December 27, 2013 5:56 am
I also forgot to mention Anthony agogo another good talent from uk in the middleweight division.Posted December 27, 2013 5:42 am
ward beats groves an degale but behind ward I think groves an degale would beat any other super middle. but in 2 to 3 years I believe rocky fielding. buglioni. an callum smith. will be up there with degale an groves.also uk as got some good middleweights in billy joe sanders john ryder martin murray an chris eubank jr an a good young fighter at lightheavy named callum Johnson.Posted December 27, 2013 5:39 am
Grove would spark Ward out. YOu have to be able to assess these things, and that ginger monster would rape ward.Posted December 27, 2013 5:23 am
Andre Ward….even saying his name bores me.Posted December 27, 2013 5:08 am
PAC THE MAN
I wish ward would get intersted in someone, so far its been the bore tour with all this weak fights he has produced, yet some of you blind folks out there believe froch kessler and dawson has earned the hall of fame—————————————-JOKEPosted December 27, 2013 2:52 am
Groves is faster than anyone Ward has faced thus far. However, I see Groves fighting Bika before he gets anywhere near Ward. The best match up for Ward is Adonis Stevenson at 168 or a catch weight just above it. I’ll be honest and say that I think Stevenson, whose defensive skills are underrated, COULD beat Ward and WOULD beat Kovalev.Posted December 27, 2013 2:42 am
That said & outta the way, Floyd is a better two handed fighter than Ward; Ward’s left side is a lot stronger than his right & that was plenty evident in his last fight where his right hand was almost a decor item. Floyd can swing left-right with equal balance & power & that’s one of the reasons I consider him better than Ward & also a reason why I think Andre won’t reach Jr’s level. Floyd is the most balanced, intelligent & resourceful boxer I’ve ever seen & that includes Ali, Leonard, Hagler, Hearns & Duran.Posted December 27, 2013 2:20 am
SOB Ward will only fight in his home town with his personal referee, judges, boxing commission, etc. Ward appears to be insecure……………Posted December 27, 2013 2:20 am
in other words, Ward beats Groves & Froch in the USA, UK, Jamaica, PR & the moon…Posted December 27, 2013 1:42 am
TARK, that’s it. Ward has to move up for real challenges; regarding the comments about Ward fighting in his hometown, i tell you, that only works because he’s elite enough to make it work…Posted December 27, 2013 1:27 am
this guy is a straight liar, Froch said he wanted a rematch with Ward right after the Ward fight because he knew he didn’t give his best performance. Ward was asked if he would consider going to the UK and he said yes. I also would consider jumping in a den with 5 lions for the right money but that won’t happen either. Urine2 picks and chooses what he wants to hear and read. I have not heard the interview after the Bute fight, so I ask the question, did Froch say he never ever wants a Ward rematch or at that time a Ward rematch wasn’t in his best interests?Posted December 27, 2013 1:24 am
Thurmal underwear- Lara floyd and Martinez will do what against andre ???? quit after 8 rds I strongly agree!!!! LolPosted December 27, 2013 1:04 am
Mansworld I agree with you a million % but you forgot to name calzage!Posted December 27, 2013 1:01 am
Ward will smoke Groves and froch on the same night at the same time. And GGG as well dude is the truth.Posted December 27, 2013 12:57 am
I’m with you Tachyon. I don’t think Froch wants any more of George Groves.Posted December 27, 2013 12:25 am
Andre will spin Groves till he’s dizzy enough to gas in the 2nd round. By mid-third round Groves will be calling Andre Daddy. Dawson vs. Groves at 168 would be a better match – Ward vs. Hopkins at whatever weight would be a nice PPV. and probably bring Ward 5 to 11 million bucks depending on the promotion quality and undercard match ups.Posted December 26, 2013 11:31 pm
BEARS you are a fool. Ward whupped Froch and was no headbutting and all this other crap your making up. Groves fought a great fight against Froch until he gassed out Ward recognized he was whupping Froch and is willing to give groves a shot. Now all of sudden Groves is not as good as you all thought because Ward will whupp him easily? Man you guys are some fake fans. Ward good man for giving Groves a shot Froch wanted not parts of a rematch so Ward stepped up.Posted December 26, 2013 10:32 pm
“I suggest Ward move to light heavyweight and fight Kovalev or even Stevenson… We need to see you in a fight that’s not extremely predictable.”"
Why not? Ward is a light heavyweight every time he steps into the ring.Posted December 26, 2013 8:59 pm
Groves got robbed vs Froch….no way should Ward fight in UK period.
Ward schools groves or froch 2.Posted December 26, 2013 8:56 pm
groves has a good chin but froch landed his froch bombs/ f bombs and groves was clearly hurt. froch had landed a ton of them and started landing them early. groves lost and i have absolutely no problem with the thorough veracity of that statement. froch should not be getting a hard time. im a froch fan and froch vs ward does not sound appealing to me. ward may not be able to land bombs on groves but he will probably head butt him, cut him, and fight off the cut using itto his advantage. theres noone not even groves who is gonna be kuch interest with ward. ward needs to move up or face 3gPosted December 26, 2013 8:45 pm
andre ward should fight someone like
but i guess a floyd fight aint never gonna happen due to a too big weight difference and the other 3 would ko ward in 8 rounds, period.
^ the other 3 would be outclassed. ward is p4p #2 easy. he’d crush lara. sergio would get koed and GGG ain’t ready yet….yet.Posted December 26, 2013 8:39 pm
Hello guys. Hope you had a nice Christmas. I had to post. This Ward fellow is going to beat the living tar out of young George Groves. Groves is not nearly ready to face someone of his calibre. Ward will beat him every which way, but Friday with something to spare? Now, if someone were to offer me a considerable sum, say $15,000,000 I would seriously consider getting back in training and back down to 12 stone and get my belts back. How about Cardiff in the summer! a one-fight, one night only deal?Posted December 26, 2013 8:26 pm
i completely agree with TARK. there is nothing for ward that is not completely predictable. move up or see whats happening with 3g. EVERYONE wants to see 3g start covering serious ground. if mayweather wont step to 3g at 154 (of course may wont he is scared of even a post ko victim pac) than we need to see 3g get in with ward. i think 3g is in a similar situation. there isnt a fighter like cotto or martinez or anyone we expect to beat 3g. lets see canelo in with someone good too maybe lara. ward fight 3g then move to lightheavy right after the kovalev vs adonis bout if kovalev stops running scared. i swear people r scared of 3g and kovalev.Posted December 26, 2013 8:25 pm
Of course Ward is interested in fighting Groves — just like Mayweather is interested in fighting Khan, and for the ssme reason.
Ward has a problem. There are no good boxers at SMW and there hasn’t been for about 15 years — other than Ward.
I suggest Ward move to light heavyweight and fight Kovalev or even Stevenson… We need to see you in a fight that’s not extremely predictable.Posted December 26, 2013 8:09 pm
this guy is a straight liar, Froch said he didn’t want the rematch with Ward right after the Bute fight in the post fight interview. Ward was asked if he would consider going to the UK and he said yes. What is full of it.Posted December 26, 2013 7:54 pm
Another interesting thing about him is that he’s a gold medalist. 2004.Posted December 26, 2013 7:34 pm
If Ward wants to fight Groves, he should sign a 2-fight deal to face Groves (with Froch on same card) – then Froch in the rematch. Both fights in UK would be mega-events, and the biggest paydays of Ward’s career. He needs to do it. What’s the point of facing the likes of Edwin Rodriguez in Cali? No-one cares.Posted December 26, 2013 7:34 pm
I’m sure it really hurts Ward that no-one cares about him. The only interesting thing about him is his rivalry with Froch. It must be deflating for his overblown ego that Froch is where the interest lies at 168. No-one cares about Ward’s fights. That’s why he’s trying to muscle-in on Froch-Groves. Brown-nosing the UK fans won’t get him anywhere. If he wants respect, come to UK and fight Froch.Posted December 26, 2013 7:15 pm
some random guy
Groves style might present Ward with some difficulties, but it’s hard to defeat a guy (Ward) who hits and then holds you so you can’t hit him.Posted December 26, 2013 7:04 pm
This isn’t the fight people want and makes no sense yet. Groves for me is odds on to make the relevant adjustments and next time do to froch for 12 rounds what he did to him for 8 rounds of the first fight. At which point a unification fighy with Ward looks tasty as. Ward did a job on Froch and followed it through to the end but what groves did to Froch for the first 8 rounds made Wards fight with Froch look like a massive effort! Ward v Groves is the future of the super middleweight division, dont make it happen too soon!Posted December 26, 2013 7:01 pm
Do it. Fight is one of the few interesting stylistic matches for Ward at 168. Groves has the hand and foot speed to take some rounds and he’s mobile enough Ward may not be able to hold and head butt as much as he typically does. Ward’s an obv favorite but he also is against anyone at 168.Posted December 26, 2013 6:44 pm
andre ward should fight someone like
but i guess a floyd fight aint never gonna happen due to a too big weight difference and the other 3 would ko ward in 8 rounds, period.Posted December 26, 2013 6:40 pm
Whos left 4 ward? Who else should he fight. He should unify and step up….Posted December 26, 2013 6:32 pm
This would be an easy fight for Ward in the UK. It would be a good fight to get his feet wet abroad. He doesnt think he’d be treated fairly otherwise, but in a fight with Groves he’s sure to win convincingly! Welcome UK!!!Posted December 26, 2013 6:32 pm
Question for PEEJ
if GGG and Andre Ward were to fight each other in the city of Aktau, Western Kazakhstan would you consider it a home or away affair for GGG?Posted December 26, 2013 6:22 pm
The Great American Joke
So let me get this straight:Ward won’t come to UK to fight Froch for whatever excuses he’s fabricated,but he’d jump at the chance to come fight Groves?Nuff said.Posted December 26, 2013 6:22 pm
Carl Froch wants to fight Andre Ward in the UK. The Cobra loses every single round of the fight. Then throws a flurry of punches and none of those punches lands on Andre Ward, but the ref stops the fight. lolPosted December 26, 2013 6:16 pm
“ahahha….begone, away with you cross-eyed panhandler” Lol..Posted December 26, 2013 6:16 pm
soggy likes to get fighters coming off a lossPosted December 26, 2013 6:09 pm
LOL at Ward coming begging to the UK table for some scraps……….ahahha….begone, away with you cross-eyed panhandler.Posted December 26, 2013 6:06 pm
They asked Maidana after the Broner win if he wanted to fight in Argentina, he said a champion fights anywhere nuff saidPosted December 26, 2013 6:05 pm
Who eles is their for ward at SMW? This could be an interesting fight for ward as groves is not one diamentional and has good foot work and certainly has the power but he is fighting p4p number 2 which will mean 2 defeats in a row. Groves should look for stiglizer Abraham winner he could easily knock both them guys out on the same nightPosted December 26, 2013 5:58 pm
All they have to do is make it worth Wards while and he will travel to the UK, he has already stated this. As far as him traveling, not all his fights happen at home.Posted December 26, 2013 5:57 pm
I hate these bias articles. Froch has been calling for another chance vs Ward since his loss. Ward won’t travel to fight at least until Froch takes on the dangerous guys first. Just like Froch had to expose the Bute myth while Ward did everything to dodge that challenge also. The facts – Ward is the No.1 SMW and proved it with his Super 6 tourney win. Froch is a tough guy and a rematch fought or not fought takes nothing away from that. Everyone wants to see Ward travel outside his comfort zone to see how he performs. Those who have fought away from home know that it is very different and certainly more so on Ward and Froch at world champion level. I still believe Ward will beat Froch by UD anywhere but I want to see it happen.Posted December 26, 2013 5:54 pm
Ward still fights?Posted December 26, 2013 5:47 pm
Easy fight for Ward.Posted December 26, 2013 5:47 pm
Crazy thing is Groves would be the bigger draw n sell more PPV probPosted December 26, 2013 5:46 pm
oakland is garbagePosted December 26, 2013 5:38 pm
if groves gassed out after 9 against froch he will do same against wardPosted December 26, 2013 5:35 pm
But let me guess, the fight has to be in Oakland, the $h1ttiest city on the planet.Posted December 26, 2013 5:34 pm
Not a bad fight.Posted December 26, 2013 5:30 pm
Great match upPosted December 26, 2013 5:25 pm