“there are no street fighters or hard men in boxing today, they went years ago.”
Yes when the true boxers turned up.Posted January 3, 2014 3:50 pm
I think Roy looks better than he has in a while.Posted January 3, 2014 3:48 pm
anonymous you are the biggest clown on this site.Posted January 2, 2014 2:12 pm
D stick to watching ped jones, you retard.Posted January 1, 2014 1:32 pm
Barring a situation like I spoke about where the crowd will attack if it goes to the ground, I like what I heard Bruce Lee Adhered to, something like “having no way, as a way”, if you wanna box, were gonna wrestle, if you want to wrestle, were going to stand up. Of course NOTHING is better then a nice clean one punch KO, where the only mark on you is on the top of your fist. Beats the heck out of rolling on the ground!Posted December 31, 2013 8:08 pm
Tark – like I was saying, how a boxer does vs a wrestler depends on a few important variables. In a street fight, seems like the rougher the scene, the more its going to favor a stand up fighter. You take a fight to the ground in some scenes, and the crowd is going to use that opportunity to start beating and kicking both fighters. Other scenes, less volatile, can go and stay on the ground no problem. In those scenes, most of the time the wrestler has the advantage. I have been around plenty of wrestlers who went downstate, in Michigan no less, and those F krs are take down artists. Even if they miss the shoot, they will clinch, and then take you down. You have to train JUST to learn how to GTF back up, let alone defending properly while down there . Its even hard for a boxer to defend against the take down, WHEN THEY KNOW ITS COMING! All this has been put to the test in the early days of the UFC. Yes the boxers were very bad back then, but until fighters spent 1000s of hours learning take down defence, they almost all went down, and their punching power did them no good. And as far as the wrestler getting caught and stopped by the boxer coming in, thats the exception, the take down is the rule.Posted December 31, 2013 7:52 pm
Anonymous wrote, “there are no street fighters or hard men in boxing today, they went years ago.”
You’re so full of crap it’s running out of your ears.Posted December 31, 2013 6:01 pm
roy would have pushed that wig baack, waaay back so it was a blessing in disquise…yuup!Posted December 31, 2013 4:32 pm
TARK – agreed on liking both sports! I can appreciate BOTH, and when theres a cross-fight between them, it always gets my intrest!Posted December 31, 2013 2:02 pm
there are no street fighters or hard men in boxing today, they went years ago.Posted December 31, 2013 9:29 am
Another interesting fact is that professional boxers who get in pre or post fights with each other without the gloves on, they very often end up tussling on the ground. Heck, of great boxers actually try to tie up in the ringPosted December 30, 2013 6:43 pm
Like I said, it depends on the individual. Lots wrestlers are veritable beasts who have been competing almost every weekend since early childhood. They can literally throw you across a room, break your neck and arms, etc. On the other hand, they are “usually” not accustomed to the pain of a pro boxer, some of whom also possess beast-like strength.
Remember to, a lot of it is in the head. Did you watch that video I provided?
Yes, Peej really got exposed big time today, especially in that eloquent blog by AnonymousPosted December 30, 2013 6:15 pm
Weidman OWNED Anderson Silva in both the first and second fight. Anderson clowned in the first fight simply because he could not engage Weidman straight up and have any chance of winning; hence, Silva clowned. And that led to an even greater disaster: the knockout. Rematch: Silva in trouble immediately in first round and was lucky not to be kayoed. Second round has Silva low kicking in hopes of turning the fight around, but he suffers a compound fracture and loses once again. In no way shape or form was Anderson Silva in control of any round of either fight. Whether Weidman will be as successful against other opponents from this point out in his career can’t be known (For example, Dennis Hallman had great success against Matt Hughes, but this domination of Hughes did not carry over to the rest of Hallman’s career), yet it will not change the fact that he (Weidman) had all the answers to Anderson Silva.Posted December 30, 2013 6:06 pm
A wrestler doesn’t have the advantage on a boxer because he’s not a skilled striker. A boxer can move and grab and hit you as you’re wrestling. He wouldn’t stick to the rules of boxing in a street fight. Now if he hits like Malingaggi he should stay out of street fights.
But a good MMA fighter tries to be a good boxer, good wrestler, good kicker, kneer, elbower, good submission hold guy, and good defender against all these tactics.. Jon Jones tries to learn everything.. People like PEEJ who say MMA is garbage are idiots.. I like boxing better than MMA, but I still love MMA. MMA will still be here in 500 years. So will Boxing. Neither is going to displace the other.Posted December 30, 2013 5:46 pm
Tark, pro boxer and MMA dudes are indeed forces to be reckoned with but to say that they can beat “any” wrestler or kick boxer is ridiculous. It often depends upon the individual. For instance, weather the wrestler is able to take a few punches before he gets the takedown, which leads to tie the boxer up and pounding him with knees, headbutts, and chokes. Remember to that Pacman and Vitali Klitchko started out as kickboxers.
You are also forgetting that Suplexes (throwing the leg-grabber) on his head is very common in both wrestling and MMA.
For example, here is a very interesting beat down on two Brazilian MMA fighters who the woman of some pudgy little dudes.
Learn to read between the lines, Wiedman won the first fight partly due to the fact that Silva was careless but the second fight was suppose to prove whether he could do it with a more focused Silva but he couldn’t as the fight ended prematurely. He sure was the better man in their first fight but the second is inconclusive. Once again time will tell how good he is when Weidman reaches Silva’s age and how many times he defends the belt which I doubt would be long.Posted December 30, 2013 3:15 pm
WHAT?! I heard that Gobby Bum is now calling out Anderson Silva, even after getting an 8 round beat down at the hands of 44 year old Glen Johnson. LOL!Posted December 30, 2013 3:05 pm
The Man Who Raped PEEJ’s Ass
Unfortunately for you I can read PEEJ. And even more unfortunately for you so can everybody else on here too.Posted December 30, 2013 2:42 pm
The Man Who Raped PEEJ’s Ass
The manner of Weidman’s wins was somewhat fortuitous, but it still doesn’t change the fact that inexperienced novice he was dominating Silva in both fights before the endings. He nearly knocked Silva out in the first round of the rematch, was Silva clowning then too?
And what does it matter how long Weidman keeps the belt for or how well he fares at Silva’s age have to do with it? You sound butthurt or like you have an agenda when you say that. No one’s saying Weidman will go down in history as a greater fighter than Silva. Maybe he well, maybe not. It’s too early to tell. But so far he’s doing great and he deserves a lot of credit for what he’s achieved. Credit that many seem to be loathed to give him for some reason.Posted December 30, 2013 2:41 pm
The Man Who Raped PEEJ’s Ass
A 38 year old who is
universally regarded as one of the top 2 greatest MMA fighters of all time
was in fine form and had just obliterated the teak-tough never previously been stopped before Stephan Bonner in a round
just lost twice to an extremely inexperienced 9 fight novice who hadn’t fought in a year, and had only fought 2 rounds in 18 months
and who was coming off 2 horrible injuries and surgeries to repair them
and who had was going through all sorts of turmoil in his personal life due to him losing his home in hurricane Sandy
And then Weidman beat him again.
Weidman’s ascent in the sport is remarkable. He’s just a baby and he’s had to contend with some rotten luck. He’s barely lost more than a few seconds so far in his career and he beat the brakes off Silva during both their fights prior to the endings. He almost knocked Silva out again in the first round on Saturday night. Was Silva clowning then as well? Silva might have been 38 but he was still in great form.Posted December 30, 2013 2:27 pm
And I guess you’ve taken I am the Idiot that Can’t Read Award. I could care less about MMA. MMA is garbage.Posted December 30, 2013 2:26 pm
The Man Who Raped PEEJ’s Ass
At least you’re ambitious if nothing else PEEJ. Most people would be more than satisfied with with winning one award but you’re intent on winning as many as possible. So far you’ve managed to get your grubby hands on Idiot of the year, Idiot of the Decade, and and now you’re doing your damnedest to get them on Idiot of the Century too.
We were talking about Anderson Silva and Chris Weidman. One of whom is black, and the other of whom is white. That’s what the conversation was always about. You’re trying every tactic under the sun to save face here but unfortunately for you there is literally nothing you can do to achieve it. Even the great Houdini couldn’t figure out away to wriggle out of this one. A snivelling retard like you stands no chance.
And I do have a screen name now remember? You even managed to get that wrong as well.Posted December 30, 2013 2:12 pm
A 38 year old fighter lost to a guy he’s over 10 years old than due to injury and earlier due to his stupidlity. How’s this surprising or special? Let wait and see how long Weidman keeps the belt and how effective he will be at the age of 38?Posted December 30, 2013 1:07 pm
Taking an over weight, past his prime, hasn’t won a meaningful fight in years to the MMA is actually a problem on MMAs side. Boxing didn’t want him, that is why he doesn’t fight in the US anymore. But good old MMA let him. I bet a prime MMA fighter couldn’t beat the current form of James Toney in the boxing ring. There is a reason Dana doesn’t let his fighters entertain the idea of fighting in a boxing ring.Posted December 30, 2013 12:35 pm
Not at all. I was talking about Silva idiot. Like I said I could care less about MMA and you are still a coward with out a screen name. But you are an idiot though.Posted December 30, 2013 12:33 pm
The Randy Couture vs James Toney fight was a HUGE embarresment to boxing! Not only did Couture CLOWN JT in the fight, but then in the post fight interviews, Couture spoke sharply, clearly and intelligently, while James Toney slured every word, and was pretty much intelligible.
Dana White stuck his foot in the a s s of boxing that night! It was a terrible specticle for my favorite sport!Posted December 30, 2013 12:09 pm
I meant that the early days of the UFC are a good case study in Boxer Vs Wrestler, Wrestler Vs Jujitsu, Karate vs Boxer, ect ect…….
The “finishing” grappler proved supreme, becasue pretty much no one could stop a take down back then, and he could submit all of them.
I think RJJ will suprise a lot of people, by scoring a “win” for boxing in one of these cross-sport matches.
I fully expected RJJ to own, and then KO Silva.Posted December 30, 2013 12:00 pm
The Man Who Raped PEEJ’s Ass
What do you think of my new one? Does it have a ring to it? Get it? LOLZPosted December 30, 2013 11:50 am
So now Chris Weidman is black? LOLZ Who’s the dummy?
And from now on I will no longer post under the Anonymous handle.Posted December 30, 2013 11:48 am
Tark – You are incorrect on your assesments of a boxer in a street fight. Right off the bat, most boxers or good stand up fighters, have never learned take down defence. In contrast, a good high school wresteler has practiced THOUSANDS of take downs, and their going to get 9 out of 10 of them, and that generally equates to a ugly slam on cement or some other hard object, some fists raining down, and then the fight getting broke up with the wresteler un touched. This is ESPECAILLY TRUE if the wresteler has the element of suprise!
It depends on the atomsphere of the street fight also though. Some senarios, YOU CANT let your fight end up on the ground, so the advantage goes back to the boxer. Generally though, if you aint got take down defence, the stand-up fighter will lose.
I wonder if people are now getting confused by the success that “anti-grapplers”/Stand-up fighters are now having in the UFC. The only reason the wresteler/grappler has seen reduced success in recent years, is because all fighters now spend THOUSANDS of hours practicing take-down defence.
The early days of the UFC was a great case study of this.Posted December 30, 2013 11:14 am
Hey Dummy they are both black you idiot. Who cares. That is why you post under anonymous. Because you are a coward.Posted December 30, 2013 11:06 am
If the match is made, one stipulation should be that both Roy and Anderson must wear clown costumes as well as face paint.Posted December 30, 2013 9:54 am
Like I didn’t know you’re B Red either.Posted December 29, 2013 8:36 pm
Exposing him is fun.Posted December 29, 2013 8:13 pm
lolz good god no. I just don’t like him. He’s a terrible poster and he chops and changes his opinions depending on the race of the fighter.Posted December 29, 2013 8:13 pm
You should’ve just kept your mouth closed, boy. I mean it’s you who’s supposedly ”could not care less about MMA”
See if you can learn from your mistakes, I can assure you you’ll find it helpful.Posted December 29, 2013 8:11 pm
You sound a little bitter there anonymous. Peej school you in the past hey?Posted December 29, 2013 8:09 pm
Actually I did achieve something PEEJ. I proved that you just as I suspected would rush to the defence of the black fighter, even though you ”could care less about MMA or the color of a person”
I also proved that once again you chimed in — in defence of the black fighter — even though you didn’t have a clue what you were talking about. You make a habit of that.
You got almost everything wrong but you still decided to throw your two cents in even though you’re totally ill-informed and clueless about the subject you were speaking on.
And it was YOU who responded to my post, not me responding to you. Understand now?
And now that you’ve been caught out and exposed as an opinionated clueless buffoon who a clear racial agenda you’re attempting to turn the argument into an MMA vs Boxing debate to try and deflect away from how badly I just owned you, with me playing the role of the MMA fan. The only problem with that is, I’m a much bigger boxing fan than I’m an MMA one. Much bigger! I could school you on many boxing related topics just as easily as I just did here on MMA.
So yes, I achieved a lot. I won’t be patting myself on the back or ”giving myself credit” though. I mean after all it was only PEEJ I made look stupid. That’s like patting yourself on the back for exposing the pope for being a Christian.Posted December 29, 2013 8:02 pm
So very truePosted December 29, 2013 8:00 pm
PEEJ give it a rest man. You can’t argue with a mma fanboy.they said boxing has been
For some godly reason. Mayweathers name came up.. wtf pacturds give it a rest.
I can asses MMA just fine. It’s garbage and that’s my assessment. Doesn’t get better than that. Silva got whooped in the first fight and his playing around was his attempt to cover it up. Floyd’s unbeaten in 45 fights. Squashes Silvas record.Posted December 29, 2013 7:25 pm
I blame Anderson Silva for all that has happen to him in these last two fights against Chris Weidman . Silva had a chance to beat Weidman in their first fight . But Silva clowning around and not respecting his opponent cost him his championship title and future big fights . Now Silva has created a monster in Weidman when in reality Silva could have beaten him in the first fight .Posted December 29, 2013 7:15 pm
Damm… Did you see the picture his leg bendeded in a 45 angle almost a round 45 angle.
There is no street fighting in any combat sport… You can’t grab a leg diver around the waist and spike him on his head. You can’t thumb somebody’s eye out. You can’t smash somebody in the balls or sledge a hammer fist to his kidney … There’s hundreds of rules in MMA but it’s the closest thing to a street fight.
The gloves are super small and a light hitter can knock you cold. You can’t gouge — but if you get pissed off enough you can get accidental pretty easily… “Oops… Excuse me for that eye poke. You can’t continue? That’s a shame really.”
Tough boxers are easily going to win any street fight versus a wrestler, karate guy, judo guy, or (usually) even a kick boxer…
But the MMA guy who is really good is usually going to kill the boxer because he does it all. He’s used to really tiny gloves, and holding and hitting and wrestling while he’s punching. He has a ground game. He’s in better shape, and he fights for 5 minutes without taking a break.Posted December 29, 2013 6:51 pm
What kills me is that there are those who believe that a sanctioned bout between a boxer/MMA practitioner defines which one would win in a street fight. It doesn’t, but the great unwashed can’t be told that.Posted December 29, 2013 6:16 pm
Since Silva was so skilled at MMA, he went six years unbeaten with a 16 fight win streak. You suck at analyzing MMA too PEEJ. LolPosted December 29, 2013 6:15 pm
Yeh mma might be cabbage but atleast the best fight the best not like the BS that goes on in boxing. Floyd would have been knocked out in 09 10Posted December 29, 2013 5:35 pm
Also if you are going in to detail about MMA then no need to respond to any of my comments because like I said I could care less. I have seen many MMA cards with my friends and your so called stack cards are ridiculous. If laying on people, wrestling or getting KOd in 1 round is stacked then yeah they are stacked. If boring is stacked then they are most definitely stacked. MMA is garbage. lolPosted December 29, 2013 5:33 pm
Dude I could care less about Silva and MMA. MMA to me is garbage. You didn’t do anything. Stop giving yourself credit. What I do know is boxing is a much better sport than MMA. So what ever you have to say about MMA I could care less. What I do know is Silva got whooped twice by Weidman. Oh I could care less. And I could also care less about the color of a person. You might but I don’tPosted December 29, 2013 5:31 pm
Just to clarify, when I say TKO stoppage I don’t mean submissions.Posted December 29, 2013 5:25 pm
And Weidman was coming off 2 back to back surgeries for 2 very serious injuries going into Silva 1 and all sorts of turmoil in his personal life due to him losing his home in hurricane Sandy, which affected his training. He’d actually only fought 2 rounds in 18 months going into that fight and Silva was only his 10th fight in total which shows you how much of a talent he is.Posted December 29, 2013 5:19 pm
And the best do fight the best in the UFC most of the time. That’s one of the reasons it’s so popular. The cards are always stacked deep with great match ups.Posted December 29, 2013 5:09 pm
I knew you’d come rushing to Silva’s — the black fighter — defence PEEJ. That’s why I wrote what I did. Just to test whether you would bite. And predictably you did.
And if you call obliterating a teak-tough fighter in a round who has never been stopped before despite them facing Jon Jones, Lyoto Machida, Rashad Evens, Mark Coleman, Forrest Griffin, and Keith Jardine amongst others a ”tough time”, then I’d be very interested what you considered to an easy out?
And before that fight Silva beat Chael Sonnen in 2 rounds, the first legitimate TKO or stoppage loss of his career.
His scored a 2 round TKO stoppage over old nemesis Yushin Okami in his fight prior to that one, avenging a previous loss. It was only the second time Okami had lost by TKO or KO and Okami had just beaten Mark Munoz and Nate Marquardt in his previous two fights before facing Silva.
In Silva’s fight prior to facing Okami, Silva obliterated the fearsome KO hitting Vitor Bellfort in a round. Belfort had only suffered 1 TKO stoppage in six years despite him facing Alistair Overeem twice, Dan Henderson, Wanderlei Silva, Tito Ortiz, Chuck Liddell, Gilbert Ivel amongst others and would go onto to take Jon Jones into the 4th round, the first fighter to do so, before losing by submission. Beltfort is currently the middleweight number 1 contender and Weidman’s next opponent after he scored 3 devasting KO wins on the bounce against Dan Henderson — the first KO loss of Henderson’s illustrious career — the Strikeforce middleweight champion Luke Rockhold, and Michael Bisping — only the secod time Bisbing has been stopped.
It was Silva’s fight prior to that where he had a hard time. But he was carrying a bad rib injury going into that in that fight and he was also facing someone who like Weidman was a bad style match up for him — a high quality wrestler who could take him down to the ground. Silva avenged that loss in 2 rounds a few fights later.
But by all means you carry on talking out of your behind about something you don’t know what you’re talking about.Posted December 29, 2013 5:03 pm
Actually, the best don’t fight the best in MMA. Yeah it happens from time to time and fights are easily made since Dana has a monopoly over the sport. Unfortunately there fighters don’t get paid much which is terrible. And Even if you are the most skilled fighter you can still get caught in a submission move. As for boxing. 95% of the time the fighter with the better skills or more heart will win the fight.Posted December 29, 2013 4:44 pm
Anderson would win easily if its an MMA fight.. A lot easier than Toney vs Corture.. It was a given that 47-year-old Couture would stop Toney in the 1st round.. I was too embarrassed for Boxing to watch that stinko.
The big problem with MMA is leg injuries like Anderson’s.. You can throw 10,000 kicks without incident and then smash your leg to smithereens in a split second.. Two round-house kicking shins can collide at 200 miles an hour—and one shin is sure to splinter like a broken baseball bat.
Like the time the infielder caught the ball in his glove to end the inning—and then snatched half the bat out of the air with his bare hand.. I’m waiting for an MMA fan to catch a flying leg that just keeps going … They won’t let him keep it as a souvenir.Posted December 29, 2013 4:42 pm
One thing ufc has over boxing, just because u have achieved all u can in the sport doesn’t mean u get fed cupcakes to the finish linePosted December 29, 2013 4:41 pm
Roy’s name did spark comments more than anyone else mentioned in the article. Fury vs Wilder or Fury vs Chisora either fight Fury gets knocked out moving another pretender out of the way.Posted December 29, 2013 4:38 pm
Bo Bo Olson
Roy whom? After Johnson beat him, he chased no championships..as he should have done in cruiser…that was when he himself knew he was shot. Since then he’s Tyson’ed. Back when he was somebody, any time a big fight was near, he’d threaten to fight a live body (not named Tiger)…now one has to wait for the slack season that Jones is going to fight some one still breathing. Tyson and him would be a good fight…a six rounder…I don’t think Mike has much endurance any more.Posted December 29, 2013 4:16 pm
This definitely clears the way for Tyson Fury vs RJJ. Watch this space.
Fury called RJJ out, along with Wilder, Browne and Chisora. It doesn’t make sense for RJJ’s name to be mixed in with true sized HW’s.
Posted December 29, 2013 2:58 pm
Right…..when did people start calling out Roy? We know they stopped 10 yrs ago…That had me scratching my head….LOLPosted December 29, 2013 3:55 pm
those peds have caught up with jones.Posted December 29, 2013 3:42 pm
Exactly, they are not bigger than boxing nor do they make more money than boxing.Posted December 29, 2013 3:35 pm
Anderson Silva vs Roy Joner Junior is a side show. Dana White sees money in their names and that’s the only reason he would even consider something like this. Whit loves preying on the fans, especially the UFC demographic that thinks MMA is the greatest sport ever invented. Anderson Silva has been one of the greatest if not the greatest ever, but that was a few years ago. He’s 38, and he just can’t handle a young well rounded kid like Weiden at this stage. Best thing for Silva to do is retire even though it’s a tough way to go out. He should not fight an over the hill, trying to hang on to youth, Roy Jones Junior. Both were great, but their time has passed.Posted December 29, 2013 3:24 pm
Roy jones jnr vs Tyson Fury!!!!!Posted December 29, 2013 3:01 pm
This definitely clears the way for Tyson Fury vs RJJ. Watch this space.
Fury called RJJ out, along with Wilder, Browne and Chisora. It doesn’t make sense for RJJ’s name to be mixed in with true sized HW’s.Posted December 29, 2013 2:58 pm
Freddie Roach Ate My Hamster
MMA claims to be bigger than boxing yet Mayweather earned more than all UFC champions combined last year. RJJ is no longer credible as a boxer, if they want to match a top MMA fighter against a boxer at least pick a boxer who is near the top 10 P4P!Posted December 29, 2013 2:41 pm
Silva was getting old and it showed in his last couple of fights. He went from being dominated to have a really hard time with the fighter before Weidman and then getting KOd by Weidman to losing this fight till his leg was broke.Posted December 29, 2013 2:36 pm
Silva wasn’t washed up. Weidman’s a really talented and intelligent fighter. He’s a just bad match up for Silva. He’s just as big as him. His reach is even longer than his — and we all saw how important reach is in the Jones-Gus fight — and he’s an amazing wrestler, extremely high class jiu-jitsu and submission expert, and his stand up is very solid as well. He has excellent timing too. He nullified a lot of Silva’s striking and made him miss with his footwork and timing alone.Posted December 29, 2013 2:27 pm
This fight would have nothing to do with boxing. This would be like a celerity fight. This would have no impact on the sport. People may find boxing laughable but it is still going strong.Posted December 29, 2013 2:20 pm
and people wonder why boxing today is laughable.Posted December 29, 2013 2:08 pm
Is Jones just going to keep fighting washed up big names? It all started with Trinidad several years ago. Might as well replace Silva with Ken Shamrock lol. Or in boxing how about kimbo slice or james toneyPosted December 29, 2013 2:07 pm
This was not made up by Roy, this was an actual fight that Silva wanted and looked to be coming along but Dana didn’t want the fight to happen. Now at his advanced age Dana is more willing the make the fight. Dana wasn’t gonna let the fight happen when Roy was still fast. He knew his fighter would of been beaten and beaten easily. Now the fight is completely gone. There is a reason Dana won’t let his fighters fight in a boxing ring but is willing to let old boxers fight in the octagonPosted December 29, 2013 1:37 pm
would the author please note that Jones’ superior skills left him sometime ago, and also quite frankly roy should of retired at least 7 years ago.Posted December 29, 2013 1:30 pm