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Posted January 1, 2014 9:38 pm 


Thurmal Underwear

hecdog is intact, skip bayless, i have no doubt.

Posted January 1, 2014 9:34 pm 


Thurmal Underwear

Tachyon

hex Dog if Manny the lion is ambushing gazelles your right no gazell stands a chance against a lion but if Manny takes on another Lion Manny may lose. my Manny prediction for 2014 is simple Manny will fight twice against easy oponents for minimal money. Manny needs the Mayweather fight and can’t get it until 2015 so he needs to survive 2014 without injury or loss. risk factors for manny 1. IRS wild card unknown what they will do. 2. Mannny is a politician who knows how his political oponents will use Pacs current situation they will spin doctor for sure. 3. Loss would sink May fight for sure fighting subpar oponents just as bad. PAC is in a tricky situation have to see how 2014 pans out .

^truth. we all know who the king of boxing’s jungle is.

Posted January 1, 2014 9:32 pm 


zeal

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Posted January 1, 2014 8:20 pm 


Tachyon

hex Dog if Manny the lion is ambushing gazelles your right no gazell stands a chance against a lion but if Manny takes on another Lion Manny may lose. my Manny prediction for 2014 is simple Manny will fight twice against easy oponents for minimal money. Manny needs the Mayweather fight and can’t get it until 2015 so he needs to survive 2014 without injury or loss. risk factors for manny 1. IRS wild card unknown what they will do. 2. Mannny is a politician who knows how his political oponents will use Pacs current situation they will spin doctor for sure. 3. Loss would sink May fight for sure fighting subpar oponents just as bad. PAC is in a tricky situation have to see how 2014 pans out .

Posted January 1, 2014 3:06 pm 


Hecdog

Anonymous my friend, Happy New year to you as well. Manny Pacquiao will not lose another fight until he retires. He’s way too motivated, and all the skills he posses have not gone away. Manny is like a lion waiting in the bush ready to assault and devour his next prey. This is a man that has been through the toughest of times in his personal and professional life, and he does not look back and mope over things. He’s a doer, a man that has been put in this position for a reason. I would go as far as saying that he should fight and would beat the following boxers without any doubt: Provodnikov, Mayweather, Porter, Thurman, Maidana, Garcia, and Canelo. He could beat them all in a row in a time span of 2 years. This is just my own opinion. Manny is going to finish his illustrious, incomparable career with miraculous type victories. he will do what many don’t think he can do. He came from Poverty to the top of the sports world. Don’t doubt this man’s abilities. Manny is the best.

Posted January 1, 2014 1:12 pm 


pinoy

The right headline should be ” Pacquiao won’t get fight with Mayweather until Floyd grows some decent-sized balls “

Posted January 1, 2014 7:22 am 


Anonymous

Poor hec dog the pactard another Floyd scared post another day, Happy 2014 and another year your boy will be broke and add another lost to his record. Manny will loose again in 2014 before he can even fight Floyd he needs to worry about uncle sam ..

Posted January 1, 2014 7:07 am 


Hec Dog

The fans just have to be on board. We can even get on the National and world stage, which would really put pressure on Floyd. The social media sites could be a strong tool as well as much of the sports world regardless if you’re a fan of Floyd’s or not. Floyd and his management have to realize that fans have the lat say. Manny could probably get President Obama to give his take and at least mention that he would like to see the fight happen. Really, there are so many ways to force Floyd to make the fight. He does run boxing, and he needs to get that message loud and clear. He’s basically running away from Manny Pacquiao at every corner. His latest stunt was dropping the belt because Manny is ranked number 1. Seriously, how pathetic is that. Floyd needs a psychiatrist more than anything else. Fans on both sides are tired of Him doing these things. He’s humiliated the status of a boxing championship. He will go down as the one boxer that chose to run rather than fight. Basically, he’s a crowned coward. He can’t defend his stunts any longer. He can’t dictate terms to any boxer that is a ranked contender, especially the number 1 ranked contender that is Manny Pacquiao. The number 1 guy gets his shot. Floyd dumping the belt just to avoid Manny Pacquiao should earn him a suspension until he agrees to fight Manny. Floyd does not make the rules. The sanctioned organizations and commissions should be the first ones telling Floyd this. Floyd is only a fighter. He has rules he has to abide by as a champion. If he refuses, he gets stripped and shouldnot be allowed to fight until he fights the number 1 guy. Floyd is better off retiring because his name is mud about now. He has lot the respect of boxing and those past and present boxing champions. The same peers he says he admired are looking at him as a coward. Floyd Mayweather regardless what happens has tarnished and ruined his reputation forever. Manny Pacquiao cared him to death.

Posted January 1, 2014 5:52 am 


teflon

It will never happen Hec dog the beauty of it is Floyd probably has a many haters as he does fans, So they will pay to see it hoping and wishing he gets beat, and in the end it only makes him more rich and his ppv numbers increase.

Posted December 31, 2013 6:42 pm 


Hec Dog

I think that’ a great idea gentlemen. Now if we can get everyone else to BOYCOTT Floyd’s fight, than we’re in business. Remember, without fans buying those PPV, Floyd gets nothing. Fans have a lot of control of these situations as long as we’re the paying customers. Who’s in???

Posted December 31, 2013 6:22 pm 


moonshineman

@john smith

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Posted December 31, 2013 3:11 pm

Thats Right………………….

Posted December 31, 2013 3:54 pm 


john smith

JUST boycotttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt mayneverrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Posted December 31, 2013 3:11 pm 


Demonyo

@moonshineman, yeah right so you are God to know what Pac, Roach and Arum know. Mayweather cheerleaders will preach the gospel and promote blind faith for the god of duckers.

Posted December 31, 2013 1:54 pm 


HI

Floyd was negotiating for a Paq fight not too long ago. Now that Paq is not in position to negotiate after his recent losses but wants to fight Floyd, now Floyd comes out with “I’ll never do business with Arum”. But he would’ve not too long ago? WTF happened? The demand for the fight is still high and still a ton of $$ to be made. All signs point to Floyd ducking Manny…….

Posted December 31, 2013 1:39 pm 


moonshineman

@Amuyong

Just watch Pac-Barrera II. That fight may look like it is of little value, but it showed how Pac cannot execute his offense if his opponent doesn’t want to engage in a toe-to-toe. Now, think Floyd in front of Pac, quick and superb defensively, pot-shooting Pac and countering him.

There is nothing Pac can do against Floyd. Pac knows this. Arum knows this. Roach knows this. Pac is after Floyd for the huge money, accepting the fact he’s gonna lose anyway.

The fight won’t happen while Pac is under Top Rank. In the end, he will regret not dumping Arum.
Posted December 31, 2013 8:33 am

Excuses,Excuses,Excuses. Try little floyd is chicken chit. That, I can believe.

Posted December 31, 2013 1:04 pm 


Hidalgo

Floyd is a master pot-shotter. So what.

Posted December 31, 2013 9:55 am 


deepwater15530

you are the best commentator on here bringing up the ali act. bam!

Posted December 31, 2013 8:49 am 


deepwater15530

why do you like to interfere with existing contracts. none of your business

Posted December 31, 2013 8:48 am 


Amuyong

Just watch Pac-Barrera II. That fight may look like it is of little value, but it showed how Pac cannot execute his offense if his opponent doesn’t want to engage in a toe-to-toe. Now, think Floyd in front of Pac, quick and superb defensively, pot-shooting Pac and countering him.

There is nothing Pac can do against Floyd. Pac knows this. Arum knows this. Roach knows this. Pac is after Floyd for the huge money, accepting the fact he’s gonna lose anyway.

The fight won’t happen while Pac is under Top Rank. In the end, he will regret not dumping Arum.

Posted December 31, 2013 8:33 am 


maracho

Espinosa also worked on the Golden Boy legal team who slandered and sued Manny Pacquiao and now his special interest crony capitalism disses the the Ali Act’s restrictions on conflicts of interest

Posted December 31, 2013 7:58 am 


Anonymous

chupa chupa

Posted December 31, 2013 6:38 am 


Anonymous

You cant see Manny loosing to Floyd, So I guess you also think Marquez was better than Floyd and so was Bradley for that matter, Loosing patience sit down no one has been able to beat Floyd and if Manny gets enough Balls and stops letting Arum screw him over and leaves top rank we can all see your boy get dismantled and shut you pactards up once and for all, But if it does happen people will say Manny was too small and he wasnt focused because he is running for president. They have every excuse in the world way he has 5 loses and is broke, And somehow Floyd owes him the fight what a joke. . Manny was put to sleep by Marquez and Marquez fought Floyd and got his ass whopped thats says it all. How a guy like Bradley, Marquez and Rios couldnt be KOed is beyond me. Oh but all of a sudden he can beat Floyd and he is scared poor pactards. Floyd should be the least of Mannys concern he needs to worry about that tax man lol… And even if he fights Floyd and makes 50 million which I highly doubt he will still be broke with nothing. And If this fight does happen it will be the biggest sham in the sport reason why hella people will loose money betting against Floyd, and more haters that pay to see it and loose money only makes Floyd richer, I hope Floyd is in the giving spirit and donates to the charity of Manny because he needs Floyd to help him pay his bills. Isnt it ironic that the very person they talked about and called afraid is the very one they need? Man that is justice Floyd is somewhere sitting back laughing at these fools that why he sent the Christmas cards , Manny is a joke and this fight will never happen

Posted December 31, 2013 4:33 am 


Losing patience!

I cant see Manny losing to Floyd, i really cant unless Floyd shows us something he hasn t shown yet. Are single shots,punch and grab tactics really gonna work against Pac? Is running away and covering up going to be the answer? Only if ref and judges are bent will Floyd keep his precious 0

Posted December 31, 2013 3:22 am 


Tomato Can

auzbox, you need to wake up and smell the coffee. But really there’s nothing I can say to change your mind, I’ve pointed out the obvious and you still don’t get it. Hopefully the fight will happen, but believe me you’ll wish it hadn’t because you’ll be proven wrong…

Posted December 31, 2013 3:00 am 


auzbox

Tomato can you sure your not Floyd your as silly as he is if your not. Manny would have whipped him in 09 and yes marquez caught him but that doesn’t make him worse off, it makes him smarter something he wouldn’t of had in 09, so if ducky, chocky, excusy, finally grows something between his legs lok out

Posted December 31, 2013 2:44 am 


Tomato Can

Wait and see… My points are solid, Manny will lose every possible edge in negotiations, and in doing so will also lose his only chances at getting a very close win. This fight has already been lost… It’s really quite easy to see, if you’re paying attention… Manny should stick to top rank fighters, and get all he can while he’s still a healthy fighter.

Posted December 31, 2013 1:57 am 


Who’s Your Daddy!

Believe me only IMBECILE would think about that…

Posted December 31, 2013 1:50 am 


Who’s Your Daddy!

Simple. just ask Floydie about that! Amen!

Posted December 31, 2013 1:48 am 


Tomato Can

You think you want the Pacquiao/Mayweather fight, but believe me you don’t… Pac doesn’t have mush a chance anymore. Really, it’ll be hard to watch.

Posted December 31, 2013 1:32 am 


Who’s Your Daddy!

AGAIN ! All these FLOYDIOTS are truly IMBECILES!!! Floydie knows that Manny won’t leave Top Rank that’s why he’s using this excuse not to fight MANNY. Don’t you get it FLOYDIOTS!!! WAKE UP! USE YOUR SIMPLE COMMON SENSE IF YOU HAVE ANY LEFT!!! I DON’T WANNA HEAR ANYMORE EXCUSES… OTHERWISE TELL YOUR FLOYDIE JUST STEP UP AND FIGHT TO SHOW TO THE BOXING WORLD WHO’S TRULY THE KING AND THE BIGGEST PPV EVER!

Posted December 31, 2013 1:06 am 


Tomato Can

all these excuses are stringing some of you along for the big let down… Pac is in a no win situation.

Posted December 31, 2013 12:48 am 


Tomato Can

As it stands Pac’s going to have to give up ring size, as well as glove size and type… These two things alone are going to put Pac at a disadvantage. Pac does his best work when he has a stationary target in front of him. With Mayweather he won’t have that for a second of any round. And if he lands he’ll be hitting Mayweather with pillow’s… Sorry, but Manny’s lost his chance at possibly winning this fight 3 years ago… Wait and see, this fight will happen, and it’ll be any easy Mayweather win…

Posted December 31, 2013 12:46 am 


Shawn

I love how PBF fans claim that PBF would easily beat Pac-man. Lol…..isn’t that so funny and ridiculous. Folks, if PBF thought he could easily beat Pac-man, this fight would have been made in 2009, don’t kid yourselves. All of these excuses, the newest one being that Arum is Pac-man’s promoter, is all in an effort to avoid the fight. All you have to do is look closely at the one who is making the most excuses and the one who continues to come up with barriers, and then you will find out who is avoiding who. Nuff said.

Posted December 31, 2013 12:39 am 


Mansworld

Whos fault Manny lost everything he never had negociating power Arum is his Daddy/boss/pimp he calls the shots for Manny who is a humble little imagrant who gets exploited. Its Manny to blame he is the one who signed with Arum and turne down 40 million didnt agree to the drug testing. And wound up broke. Floyd owes Manny and his fans zero. Name anyone who in the sport of boxing wwho would turn down a chance to fight Floyd and 40 million cash? Manny when on to fight Marquez for 3 million and got KTFO, but he is so great and Floyd is scared what a joke. Reality is Manny signed his own fate now he has to live with what comes with it. 68 million in taxes to the U.S. Now he in under investigation from the Phillipines because they say he owes them too, instead of focusing on Floyd he should have been looking out for Marquez hook , or better yet at his tax lawyers because right now he needs to worry about them bills. He might wind up in prison with nothing Floyd should be his last concern at this point.

Posted December 31, 2013 12:16 am 


teflon

Only way this fight can happen of Manny leaves Arum. Otherwise he will get beat again, before his contract is up and then his public interest will decline even furthure in any case Manny is very close to the end.

Posted December 31, 2013 12:05 am 


Anonymous

Old Coot

Best part about that youtube video is right at the end when Fraud flips out about Manny and says that he’s smart and then as usual with Fraud he begins to talk about himself in the third person!!! What an idiot! LOL

Posted December 31, 2013 12:05 am 


Yo MOMMA

-eric
–“”Mayweather just said he will fight manny if manny walks a tight rope across Niagara Falls balancing a 70 foot moter home on his nose while fighting 20 foot alligator s and being shot at by apache helicopters.
And manny must except 1% of the ppv then its a done deal.
Manny a little b! Tch if he dosent except floyds offer, thats fair and not at all uncommon…”

–LMAO…no way. He didnt accept?

Posted December 30, 2013 10:01 pm 


Old Coot

Fraud is scared of Manny!: Yep!! That tube vid splains it all… FLOYD SCARED!!… Thanks man!

Posted December 30, 2013 9:48 pm 


Fraud is scared of Manny!

Old Coot

Yep! You’re right. And everyone can see it.

Check out this youtube video – Floyd Mayweather exposed (Why he ducked Manny Pacquiao).

Enjoy!

Posted December 30, 2013 9:28 pm 


Fraud is scared of Manny!

Floyd XYLOCAINE Mayweather

check out this youtube video … ‘Floyd Mayweather exposed (Why he ducked Manny Pacquiao)’

Enjoy!

Posted December 30, 2013 9:26 pm 


Old Coot

Even if Pac-Man dumped Arum… Floyd will never, Never, EVER fight the dude!!… Too scared… So he’s content to have his gullible fans sell the notion that “Of course Floyd would win”, but keep blaming Arum, PEDs and purse splits! LOL!!!

Posted December 30, 2013 9:24 pm 


Havoc

Too much demand. Too much excuses! I really don’t think Floyd is the best. He lack courage and balls.

Posted December 30, 2013 8:58 pm 


Floyd XYLOCAINE Mayweather

It’s funnt how Money May does not want to make the most money he will ever make from a fight and on top of that he just have to beat a over the hill Pacman.

Posted December 30, 2013 8:39 pm 


Floyd XYLOCAINE Mayweather

Who gives a dam about Pac vs Floyd anymore.

Posted December 30, 2013 8:35 pm 


eric

Mayweather just said he will fight manny if manny walks a tight rope across Niagara Falls balancing a 70 foot moter home on his nose while fighting 20 foot alligator s and being shot at by apache helicopters.

And manny must except 1% of the ppv then its a done deal.

Manny a little b! Tch if he dosent except floyds offer, thats fair and not at all uncommon.

Posted December 30, 2013 7:53 pm 


eric

Peej, aking for radom blood test was a hurdle because those talks were not the norm.

When the seat belt law was first passed in my state people got pissed and bucked up against the

law and drove without it until they got sick of tickets and relized finally it was a wise thing to do.

The thing your not understanding and or refuse to acknowledge is everytime a hurdle was agreed to by manny, floyd came up with a new one and theh keep getting more personal and intrusive intk nannys life.

Mayweather says he s bigger than boxing and belives he s king $ hit, his ego is out of control.

He dont own boxing or pacman.

Floyd still see s manny as a theat and will not risk looseing until manny shows severe decline in his game.

Can you imagine floyd with his giant ego and all the garbage he has talked, loosing to manny ?

The humiliation would be to much for floyd to bare, he may even kill himself if that happened.

You know floyd really is a real person deep down inside and thinks a lot like you and me and everybody else.

Trust me cain, anderson silva, klitschko, mayweather all have fears and with floyd it just really seems like he afraid of manny.

Its not hate or disliking floyd thats makes so many people belive and fell that way, itscthe way people that have the same fears are reading floyds actions.

I truely belive floyds afraid of pacman, but would out point him

Posted December 30, 2013 7:40 pm 


Anonymous

Fraud Duckweather said last week … “If Manny Pacquiao gets himself to the position of mandatory challenger for my WBC 147lbs title belt I will just VACATE the belt! A belt alone doesn’t make me!”

What a pathetic champion Fraud Duckweather is.

Posted December 30, 2013 6:36 pm 


Tomato Can

As far as 147 pound rules go, fighters fight above there divisions all the time. They just can’t fight for or defend titles above the weight limits..

Posted December 30, 2013 6:28 pm 


Tomato Can

But now all that type of stuff will be off of the table, May might come in at 149 just to aggravate Pacquiao, on top of all the other things I mentioned. Believe me Pac will have little chance of beating Mayweather…

Posted December 30, 2013 6:26 pm 


Tomato Can

Havoc, Pac just wanted big money if Mayweather chose to come in heavy like he did for Marquez. 10 million per pound is a lot of dough, even if everyone knew Mayweather would have no problem coming in at 147…

Posted December 30, 2013 6:22 pm 


Havoc

Tomato Can- so basically Pacman saying Floyd my demand for you is for us to play by the rules of 147lbers.

Posted December 30, 2013 6:16 pm 


Tomato Can

Pac will be using the softest and heaviest gloves that Mayweather knows of… This fight has already been won by Mayweather… Sorry…

Posted December 30, 2013 6:12 pm 


Tomato Can

Havoc those were agreed upon requests from Pacquaio. Now Pac won’t have any of those requests go in his favor…

Posted December 30, 2013 6:09 pm 


moonshineman

Sorry, Till he fights Pacquiao.

Posted December 30, 2013 6:08 pm 


moonshineman

Boycott Mayweather till he fights Mayweather. The Fans should decide.

Posted December 30, 2013 6:08 pm 


Tomato Can

Pacman has no more demands. He can now only hope the fight happens. And if it does happen, Mayweather will do everything in his power to make sure manny is backed up against a wall come fight night… Everything will be set in Mayweather’s favor, gloves, ring size weigh in weight, canvas type, testing type and company.. The more I think about it the more I see a lopsided UD win for Mayweather… Pac lost his chance 4 years ago. The pacquiao that fought Clottey should have been facing Mayweather with random testing.

Posted December 30, 2013 6:07 pm 


Havoc

Peej you moron! Those are not demands those are the right rules when you fight at 147 lbs. Floyd have the tendency to cheat like what he did with Marquez.

Posted December 30, 2013 6:00 pm 


PEEJ

Ring size, Glove size, weight, how much money per pound over weight (10 mil), money split which was 50/50. All agreed to by Floyd, oh lets do random testing. Nope can’t do it

Posted December 30, 2013 5:54 pm 


Havoc

Peej- tell me about Pacmans demand.

Posted December 30, 2013 5:50 pm 


PEEJ

Havoc your an AZZ. Childish

Posted December 30, 2013 5:49 pm 


PEEJ

Pac made plenty of demands and Floyd agreed. Pac couldn’t agree on one thing till Ariza left his corner

Posted December 30, 2013 5:48 pm 


JoeKidd

…and wear pink undies…with a bra…and crawl around the ring on a leash…lead by the show pony.

Posted December 30, 2013 5:46 pm 


Havoc

Peej- you’re an azz. Floyd demands right? PAC said no right? So tell me who the f@ck is making demands?

Posted December 30, 2013 5:36 pm 


Anonymous

Manny is not worth a dam thing these days. Due to his losses and the fact that no one wants to see him fight Marquez, Bradley or Ruslan, he has zero public interest. Floyd dont owe Manny nothing he should have taken the fight when it was offered and took the 40 million. Now these are guys like Garcia, Thurman, Miadana that could be huge fights that can be made outside of Floyd but you never hear no one mention these guys just Floyd this and that, Yes Floyd is the man on top of the hill but Manny is the one that has a lot of climbing to do and Arum keeps pulling him down. And to hear him talk you can tell he is very ignorant and Arum exploits the little fellow. Manny is very humble and loyal two things that will kill you in the sport of gladiators

Posted December 30, 2013 5:33 pm 


PEEJ

Dude your ridiculous. What demand after demand was made? Random testing. They didn’t agree to it wanted cut off days. Floyd said no. Then after a year then went back it again, Floyd stock rose and he was selling more than Pac, so now he wants a bigger piece of the pie. Why not he is selling more. They once again said no and still wanted a cut off date. Now they need a stadium built and Floyd does not say when Pac is fighting. So sorry, Arum is wasting Floyds time. No need to enter back in negotiations when nothing will come of it

Posted December 30, 2013 5:30 pm 


Havoc

Peej- I don’t think Arum or money is an issue here. It’s Floyd who makes demands after another demands. I don’t get a P4P best couldn’t make a fight with Pacman. Not unless he is scared to fight.

Posted December 30, 2013 5:27 pm 


deepwater15523

pac should have a press conference call out and fight floyd for $1. because if he beats him he will make the biggest purse ever for a rematch

Posted December 30, 2013 5:24 pm 


Anonymous

modern boxing when the best fight the best.LOL.

Posted December 30, 2013 5:20 pm 


Hidalgo

“Pac might as well stay out of negotiations cause he won’t get anything his way. It’ll all be what Mayweather dictates now, with no giving in with anything. That’s not good for Pacquiao. He’d probably be better of staying with arum and fighting fights he can have his way, and win..”

I also agree with you, Tomato Can. Floyd would jack Pacquaio around and never give him anything worth a damn. All Floyd has ever wanted to do was destroy Pacquiao’s reputation and legacy.

Posted December 30, 2013 5:16 pm 


Hidalgo

“There is always one more hurdle to go over. It never ends.”

This is the truth. This is a fight that could be made if both parties truly wanted it to be made. But they don’t.

Posted December 30, 2013 5:14 pm 


TARK

Whatever is was that Floyd ever wanted, Pacquiao said yes to… All the random OSDTing, the money, the venue, whatever.

There is always one more hurdle to go over. It never ends.

Posted December 30, 2013 5:12 pm 


deepwater15523

50 cent writing on looseleaf paper arent negotiations. seriouslt there never was any negotiations between top rank and al haymon.

Posted December 30, 2013 5:12 pm 


PEEJ

It is only for one fight. If he really wants the fight and Arum really wants the fight then it can happen. Arum will get paid for doing nothing.

Posted December 30, 2013 5:11 pm 


PEEJ

Yeah everybody complains about Floyd saying he needs to tell Arum to stay out for this fight but nobody complained about fighters having to sign with Arum for at least a fight to get the fight with Pac. That is all good but when Floyd says anything that doesn’t even resemble that he is making excuses. So basically when Mosley and Marquez where with Golden Boy they couldn’t fight Pac. You sign with Top Rank, then you get the fight with Pac.

Posted December 30, 2013 5:10 pm 


TARK

PEEJ.., “Tell Arum he can’t be apart of the negotiations.”

You know that’s a load… Bob’s got to go period. He can’t promote the show. Forget the negotiations. Floyd is dictating who Pac can do business with.

Posted December 30, 2013 5:09 pm 


PEEJ

I have no clue where they took place but they did. Why else would they have been coming out with all of those reasons on why they can’t do random testing. As a matter of fact Floyd was trying to get the fight at 154 but agreed to the 147 weight and then Pac came up with the 10 mil per pound if they came in over weight. There where negotiations. Even HBO at the time said they had them. They even brought in a mediator to handle the negotiations. I am sure if you google it you can read all about it.

Posted December 30, 2013 5:09 pm 


Tomato Can

Pac might as well stay out of negotiations cause he won’t get anything his way. It’ll all be what Mayweather dictates now, with no giving in with anything. That’s not good for Pacquiao. He’d probably be better of staying with arum and fighting fights he can have his way, and win..

Posted December 30, 2013 5:00 pm 


deepwater155236

when and where were the formal negotiations?

Posted December 30, 2013 5:00 pm 


Tomato Can

To put things in better perspective, Pacquiao’s current situation, in regard to a Mayweather fight, are a lot like Shane Mosely and Marquez’s were prior to their fights with Pacquiao. They both had to sign with top rank to get their fights… I didn’t like that so I understand those of you complaining about Mayweather’s stance…!it too bad none of you wear complaining when Mosely and Marquez had to bend over for Pacquiao…

Posted December 30, 2013 4:54 pm 


PEEJ

Really asking for random testing is a hurdle? So why did Pac have Rios do the random testing? Just wanted to run Rios through some hurdles? Funny how Floyd agreed to all of Pacs demands but Pac couldn’t agree to random testing

Posted December 30, 2013 4:53 pm 


PEEJ

There have been formal negotiations.

Posted December 30, 2013 4:52 pm 


Havoc

Like I said Peej, Floyd demands to take advantages or just to avoid the fight.

Posted December 30, 2013 4:48 pm 


Havoc

Peej- Floyd demands ALL the hurdle, Pacman is just basically saying NO! Pacman never ever demanded anything from Floyd just to fight the way it was. MORON!

Posted December 30, 2013 4:45 pm 


deepwater15523

there was no formal negotiations. ever. period.

Posted December 30, 2013 4:44 pm 


eric

If floyds waits around long enuf like taking off 2 years and fighting once and twice a year, while manny was fighting a lot more, plus wars, I guess stock will fall.

Manny will make the largest purse he ever made fighting floyd, BUT FLOYD WILL ALSO MAKE IS LARGEST PURSE FIGHTING PACMAN.

The over all stock of the fight has lost its luster slighty, but manny is a key element and ingredient into the biggest boxing event in the history of the sport, so mannys stock is prime, when you look at the big picture.

Whos floyd going to fight to generate that kind off revenue other than the one and only pacman ??? Nobody thats who.

Posted December 30, 2013 4:40 pm 


PEEJ

I have already listed all the excuses on why they couldn’t sign to make the fight. All excuses from Pacs side came out of Arums mouth. Happened over 3 or 4 negotiations to make the fight. There is no need to approach it again while Arum is still in the picture.

Posted December 30, 2013 4:36 pm 


Havoc

Tomato Can- mayweathers stock went up but something stays the same he still unsuccessful to grow a pair if balls.

Posted December 30, 2013 4:34 pm 


deepwater15523

how did arum waste floyds time?

Posted December 30, 2013 4:33 pm 


eric

It dosent matter what floyd ask for people, it alll of a sudden becomes a ligit reason and manny must obey floyds ligit requirements.

No matter how impossible or silly it is, it becomes law to floyd and his fans people lol.

Posted December 30, 2013 4:32 pm 


PEEJ

Havoc you moron, Floyd is in the drivers seat plain and simple. If Pac can’t comply, which he can’t with Arum in the negotiations then there is no fight. Arum has wasted enough of Floyds time. You are the type of guy that constantly does things for a chick thinking he is gonna get laid but yet never does. But yet you keep doing things only to be taken for a fool. Step your game up son

Posted December 30, 2013 4:31 pm 


Tomato Can

Yes chicken Mayweather’s stock has continued to rise, and brave Pacquiao’s stock has plummeted…

Posted December 30, 2013 4:28 pm 


eric

Mannys not allowed to do whatever mayweather says he can or cannot do, dont you people understand this ?

Manny must contact floyd if he wants to go to the movies and have floyd ok it people.

Posted December 30, 2013 4:27 pm 


deepwater15523

peej gets a tmt hat for his efforts. no sane person would keep arguing these points

Posted December 30, 2013 4:27 pm 


Havoc

Peej- tell Arum he can’t be apart of the negotiation. You moron I tell you. That excuse alone is very telling that Floyd ain’t wanna fight. How in the world will Pacman fight Floyd with out his handler? You are really a Floydiot! Except Floyd is smart to make excuses and you are blind you can’t see that.

Posted December 30, 2013 4:25 pm 


eric

Manny must stop talking to his parents and cant be alowed out after the street lights turn on for 1

year.

Floyd says manny must be tested for dog meat before the fight and is forbidden to watch HBO after dark, then floyd says he will consider the fight aslong as manny takes 3% And floyd gets 97%.

Thats a great deal.

Posted December 30, 2013 4:25 pm 


deepwater15523

manny cant accept 40 mill from floyd. its illegal due to the contract. manny will and has taken the test. years ago the fight could of had astadium as the biggest fight of the decade. manny cant break a contract and fire arum. so again your excuses are weak

Posted December 30, 2013 4:21 pm 


PEEJ

They are not excuses, it is about Arum wasting peoples time. Floyd does not want his time wasted by Arum.

Posted December 30, 2013 4:20 pm 


PEEJ

Tark, he has never satisfied those demands. He says one thing, Arum says another and Koncz says another. And just so you know Koncz has maintained that Pac has never agreed to the random testing up until the fight.

Posted December 30, 2013 4:19 pm 


deepwater15523

so your excuses dont hold water. make the fight.period

Posted December 30, 2013 4:19 pm 


PEEJ

So sounds like Pac doesn’t want the fight then with all the excuses made. Lets see Floyds so called excuses, 1. take random testing 2. i get a bigger piece of the pie 3. tell Arum he can’t be apart of the negotiations.
Pacs excuses
1. scared of needles 2. makes me weak 3. superstitious 4. has to be 50/50 5. cut that won’t be healed in time 6. not enough time to promote 7. Floyd doesn’t say what day the fight will be 8. Floyd is going to jail in June even though the fight is in May 9. wont accept 40 mil 10. needs a stadium built
Hmm, you do the math its not hard.

Posted December 30, 2013 4:18 pm 


TARK

PEEJ…, “All Floyd has asked is random testing and taking a bigger piece of the purse.”

I think Pacquiao satified those demands a long time ago… There’s a new demand just in case you haven’t heard about it… “Get rid of Bob.”

After he does that will there be anything else???? … Bob is 82, so maybe we’ll get lucky and he’ll just fall over dead from a heart attack.

Posted December 30, 2013 4:16 pm 


Havoc

If you want to fight you make ways, if you don’t want to fight you make excuses.

Posted December 30, 2013 4:14 pm 


Havoc

Tomato Can- one is willing to fight the other just plain scared to fight. Nothing more nothing less with this story. It’s a boxing match and the winner can be settle in the square circle.

Posted December 30, 2013 4:12 pm 


eric

Other mayweather demands that must happen for a fight happens.

1. Manny must jump into a active volcano and back stoke for 100 yards in molten lava.

2. Manny must divorse his wife and marry a transvestite.

3. Manny must sell his house in the Philippines, move to america and get obama care.

4. Manny must get a tattoo of floyd on his ass.

5. Manny must swim from californa to gaum and back under water

Posted December 30, 2013 4:11 pm 


Tomato Can

as fans we can sit and complain about the way things are with this fight, but the fact is Mayweather raised his stock and Manny’s stock fell. Manny is between a rock and hard place…

Posted December 30, 2013 4:01 pm 


Tomato Can

When Mayweather first came out of his 24 month layoff, Pac had all the leverage. Now Pacquaio has very little in way of making the fight happen or getting anything in negotiations … Things are not well at all in pacland… :(

Posted December 30, 2013 3:57 pm 


Anonymous

Manny owes the IRS 68 million and they said he owes the philipines as well. Dude is fried…

Posted December 30, 2013 3:56 pm 


PEEJ

Why didn’t he fight Floyd before he went to jail, oh thats right because he was going to jail in June and that would of affected a May fight. Wait no it wasn’t that, it was the fact that Pac had a cut that wouldn’t heal quick enough but yet he fought a month before, not thats not it, there isn’t enough time to promote a Pac vs Floyd fight. Does the fight really need much promoting. With the way all you Pactoids talk the fight will do millions if it was fought this weekend. So that was another excuse. That was all from one negotiation. All Floyd has asked is random testing and taking a bigger piece of the purse which he deserves since he sells more.

Posted December 30, 2013 3:56 pm 


PEEJ

Arum is already taking advantage of him. He can have Arum take a look at the contract and make adjustments to them. He just can’t be the one negotiating. And your a Pactoid Sissy. All those excuses Pac and Company came up with and you agree with all of them. But yet you are still making excuses for those excuses. Well if that is what they demanded. But I bet Haymon handles some of Arums clients so I doubt he would ask that.

Posted December 30, 2013 3:52 pm 


john smith

OK GOOD the PACMAN AGREE …..WHATS THE NEXT EXCUSE …WAIT IN JANUARY THE EXXXXXXCUSEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Posted December 30, 2013 3:46 pm 


Havoc

Peej- your Floyd a sissy ha!? Arum stay away let me take advantage of your fighter and demand things like a little boy. Demands and excuses are for little boys. Just like you little peej! Demands are common.

Posted December 30, 2013 3:45 pm 


deepwater15523

so is it reasonable for a fighter to demand mayweather have al haymon sit out for 1 fight then?

Posted December 30, 2013 3:44 pm 


deepwater15523

so he has another 12 months. its up to manny to keep him or get rid of him. so 2014 is out then due to mayweather.

Posted December 30, 2013 3:43 pm 


PEEJ

Once again I never said for him to dump him. I said he can tell him to stay out of this fight. If he doesn’t then the fight will not happen and that is Pacs loss. Once again he is staying with someone that has messed his money situation up something serious. Why would one want to stay with him for that, well for one thing he owes Arum money because he is always borrowing money.

Posted December 30, 2013 3:35 pm 


Tachyon

Deep water just for you and as i always try to educate you it’s all about the data.

MANHATTAN BEACH, Calif. — Manny Pacquiao, boxing’s only eight-division champion, has signed a contract extension with promoter Top Rank that will keep the Filipino icon with the company through the end of 2014, chairman Bob Arum told ESPN.com on Friday.

“Manny’s contract with Top Rank runs out on Dec. 31, 2013, and we’ve extended the contract for yet another year, to Dec. 31, 2014,” Arum said before the weigh-in for Saturday’s Nonito Donaire-Toshiaki Nishioka junior featherweight championship fight.

Posted December 30, 2013 3:23 pm 


deepwater15523

are you sure about that? and what business is it of floyds who his opponents promoter is? if arum ripped off floyd floyd would have sued. if pacs team told floyd to dump al haymon do you think that would be reasonable?

Posted December 30, 2013 3:16 pm 


Tachyon

Deep water PAC current contract expires end of 2014. Pac becomes a free agent.

Posted December 30, 2013 3:11 pm 


deepwater15523

peej if pac is under contract how can he dump arum? explain

Posted December 30, 2013 3:11 pm 


Havoc

Floyd wants to break up a very good relationship of Pacman and Top rank! Floyd steering up controversy. He didn’t know that Filipinos are the most loyal people in the world.

Posted December 30, 2013 3:05 pm 


PEEJ

Pac isn’t breaking any contract. What Arum can’t sit this one out and yet still collect a paycheck? Who cares the fight isn’t happening anyways. Yall keep bringing up the same old things and we are gonna respond with the same old things. Yeah Floyd has came up with obstacles, funny how there really was no obstacles in the first round of negotiations but Pac still didn’t sign.

Posted December 30, 2013 3:01 pm 


Havoc

Manny can ruin Floyd’s fake legacy if Floyd grow some balls!

Posted December 30, 2013 3:00 pm 


deepwater15523

floyd has mental problems against older men because of his daddy issues. his daddy used lil floyd as a shield against a gun. thats why floyds uncle shot floyd sr in the leg. floyds dad got his mom on crack. all of floyds mental problems come from that.

Posted December 30, 2013 2:59 pm 


deepwater15523

floyd doesn’t take afight he isnt sure of winning. thats why he wont take the fight. floyd knows about contracts. at least al haymon does. so when he violates contract law by saying drop arum he knows it cant and wont happen. floyd is a disgrace to the sport. the p4p guy should take on all serious challengers.

Posted December 30, 2013 2:57 pm 


deepwater15523

there were never any formal negotiations. konz spoke with mayweather informally. floyd knew then like he knows now offering pac 40 million directly was a breach of contract,illegal and wasnt going to happen. bottom line is floyd doesn’t want the fight.

Posted December 30, 2013 2:55 pm 


Havoc

For some reason Floyd won’t fight Manny because of Arum. Why? If Floyd can beat Manny. Why?

Posted December 30, 2013 2:55 pm 


Havoc

Floyd won’t get the Pacman fight until he grow some balls and stop making excuses!

Posted December 30, 2013 2:53 pm 


deepwater15523

its illegal to try and break existing contracts. floyd and espinoza know this. forget all lame excuses from past. arum and pac are calling for the fight. floyd is playing dumb and acting illegal. thats the facts jack

Posted December 30, 2013 2:53 pm 


the public

Uncle Bob has Pac by the purse strings. pac never graduated from any school and like many before him he will be fighting way past his expiration date. This fight never happens because Arum was never serious about making it happen and it was a good choice by the ex tax attorney. Now he drains Pac for whatever he has left and then leaves him to a comfortable life in the Phillipines. Not bad for a former homeless child of the streets.

Posted December 30, 2013 2:49 pm 


PEEJ

Actually you are the moron who apparently doesn’t mind the lame excuses Pac and Company have already offered up. After the last round of negotiations Floyd made it clear he will never work with Arum again. Oh by the way, has Arum started building that stadium? I know that was a major deal breaker the last time

Posted December 30, 2013 2:42 pm 


Tachyon

Data data data even people in PAC on camp went on record saying Arum was killing the fight because he wants to build some crazy boxing stadium in Vegas to snag as much money as he can from the fight. PAC could stopped the bs at any time and sorted arum out. 3yes ago instead he acts like a puppet I only fight who my team puts in front of me. At this stage of the game PAC should be telling arum who he will fight and saying make it so instead of blindly be lead and told who he will fight. At some point you to run your own show and stop taking orders like a robot.

Posted December 30, 2013 2:40 pm 


Havoc

Peej- you moron! Why Floyd scared of Arum or Manny? Lame excuse to demand Pacman to leave Top Rank cause he can’t deal with Arum.

Posted December 30, 2013 2:36 pm 


Havoc

Yup! Floyd just plain scared to lose!

Posted December 30, 2013 2:30 pm 


PEEJ

Nobody is making anything up and nobody said he had to dump Arum. They said he can’t be apart of this fight. That is not dumping him. He can also still take his mandatory fee from Pac

Posted December 30, 2013 2:29 pm 


Havoc

Stupid Floydiots! Now that Floyd demanded manny to dump Arum,Floydiots are giving reasons and making up stories to find ways to help Floyd c

Posted December 30, 2013 2:29 pm 


SeanieP

Floyds still scared

Posted December 30, 2013 2:28 pm 


PEEJ

Whats funny is that the people from the Philippines is saying that his promoter is responsible for paying his US taxes. What makes it ironic is his promoter used to be a tax lawyer. Which basically means he knows the ins and outs of the whole thing. Meaning he could cheat Pac, get paid and then the blame would be laid onto Pac.

Posted December 30, 2013 2:15 pm 


Tomato Can

Foreman is doing awesome. He’s worth close to 300 million. But the trend is this sport leave’s it’s warriors broke, and shells of what they once were.

Posted December 30, 2013 2:05 pm 


teflon

Its a shame Manny didnt have some genuine people on his team to properly advise him. He has to fight 10 more times before he can repay the IRS? Now the saying he owes the Phillipines too? Man this is crazy he dont have 10 fights left in him. Besides public interest in him has gone way down. Now since Marquez turned down a 5 fight that leaves. Bradley and Ruslan which no one will pay to watch. Top rank is out of Options. Its sad that alot of fighters who are from the slums and the ghettos of the world are shammed into these deals as a way out and end up making millions for guy like Arum and Don King and they exploit these fighters and they end up with brain damage and broke at the end of there careers ask. Mike Tyson, Ali, Foreman now we can add Manny to the list. I hope Bradley wises up or he will follow suite….

Posted December 30, 2013 2:00 pm 


Tomato Can

Nope Pac is no longer in the drivers seat… Long gone are the days of being able to get away with throwing tantrums over random testing up to the day of the fight…

Posted December 30, 2013 1:12 pm 


Tomato Can

Meanwhile, Arum continues to make money off of Pacquiao with a dwindling stock of top rank fighters. Things are getting thin in pacland. I hope they make a change for the better, because Pacquiao deserves to go out on top.

Posted December 30, 2013 1:09 pm 


te tumbo

“If it were simply due to Floyd alone, his fight with Guerrero would have done much better than just 850K and more than just 1.1M when he fought JMM”. nonetheless, BOTH are bigger numbers than Pacquiao* pulled in for his recent comeback bout v. Rios. it is also True, that both Floyd and Pacquiao’s* numbers are padded by the traditional May and September fight-crowds. it’s no mystery why they’ve become “Money’s” designated fight nights. they remain his and Pacquiao’s* most successful. even Canelo can guarantee $10 million paydays to opponents(?!) in these months. IMO, so can Mayweather. Pacquiao*? not unless he faces Floyd or Canelo in Vegas or Marquez in Mexico City. he’s no longer in the driver’s seat.

Posted December 30, 2013 1:06 pm 


Tomato Can

Add in the fact that Manny was starched by Marquez, and he’s lost a step, to my previous post, and things look real bad for Pacquiao in a fight with Mayweather at this point, IMO…

Posted December 30, 2013 1:06 pm 


Tomato Can

The sad thing in all this is Pacquiao lost his leverage. It doesn’t matter what he wants now. He’s going to have to give everything including his promoter, before he even begins negotiations… There was a time when all he had to give up was random testing up to the day of the fight… Since then, he has slowly lost everything… Now he’ll have no more choices on ring size, glove size, who walks in first, hydration clauses, coming in over weight penalties, nothing…. Man I see why a lot of fans are pissed and disgusted with Mayweather, cause Mayweather already beat the crap out of Manny out side the ring..

Posted December 30, 2013 1:00 pm 


PEEJ

Actually Floyds fight with Guerrero did over a mil and that is per the VP of showtime. Floyd had a lot to do with the PPV numbers in those 2 PPV events. IF he wasn’t in them they wouldn’t of done that many PPVs.

Posted December 30, 2013 12:30 pm 


PEEJ

So what they are on record. They have been on record wanting the Floyd fight for years now. But Arum always kills the fight. Why can’t Arum take a back seat to this to get the fight done. He can still take his percentage after it is all said and done. There is no broken contract with that. Question is why is Pac wanting to stay with Arum. He is a crook and has taken advantage of Pac because Pac has nobody watching his back but Roach.

Posted December 30, 2013 12:30 pm 


PTS

Floyd has been part of the two highest grossing PPV events because of two important reasons: DLH and Canelo!! Not merely because Floyd was in them. If it were simply due to Floyd alone, his fight with Guerrero would have done much better than just 850K and more than just 1.1M when he fought JMM. So you see, it’s a huge misconception to think Floyd by himself cannot sell huge PPV numbers. As it is, he’s trying to use Canelo as part of his undercard to try and sell his next fight. He needs to get the most cash because, as I understand it, his fight with Guerrero cost Showtime 5M in losses, which is why he was “forced” to face Canelo however, but not without it being at a catchweight. Well, you know, “ALL” all time greats fight the best at catchweight.

Posted December 30, 2013 12:29 pm 


PTS

correction: Fans do NOT need nor want excuses Mr. Cherry Picker. Ex. Guerrero, Ortiz, Khan, etc. This is the hall mark of an all time great………NOT!!

Posted December 30, 2013 12:06 pm 


PTS

Pac/Floyd is the fight fans have wanted too see. Fans do need nor want excuses. To Pac credit, he has made it abundantly clear he’s willing to face Floyd. What does Floyd do in return? Dumps his belt when Pac is installed as his mandatory. Now, I know Floyd has no fear of fighting anyone however, I am certain he fears losing to Pac, otherwise, why dump the belt instead of being a man and facing your demons. I mean, if he feels Pac is not on his level, PROVE it!! He had the audacity of fight has beens like Guerrero, Ortiz and even contemplating a cake walk fight against Khan ( read Con).

Posted December 30, 2013 12:04 pm 


PTS

T tumban siempre, why do you always talk out of your ass neophyte?

Posted December 30, 2013 11:58 am 


PTS

test

Posted December 30, 2013 11:58 am 


punch

Manny that was hilarious thanks for the laugh

Posted December 30, 2013 11:51 am 


MANNY PACQUIAO

Please, gentlemen. I owe everything I am to Mr. Arum. I will never break my contract to him. He has promised if I fight 3 times a year until 2018 then all my tax problems will be sorted out and I can then become a prominent figure for my people in the Philippines. Please, no one say anything bad about Mr. Arum. He is an octagenarian and I ask we respect him and his wishes.

Manny Pacquiao

Posted December 30, 2013 11:43 am 


deepwater15523

bob arum and pac are on record as wanting the mayweather fight. thats a fact. mayweather has avoided the fight and has been on record as saying who when the pac fight is brought up. now that fans across the world are demanding the fight floyd demands pac break an existing contract in order to fight him and mafia boss espinoza backs him up. so there you have it.its all out in the open. floyd is scared and showtime wants nothing to do with the biggest fight out there

Posted December 30, 2013 11:08 am 


deepwater15523

alot of ignorant people on here

Posted December 30, 2013 11:05 am 


te tumbo

“why would [Pacquiao*] ever want to leave Top Rank and risk getting beaten by a fighter like Mayweather. It might be better off for Pacquiao to stick it out with Arum, because if he’s going to be matching him up against Bradley, Rios, Mike Alvarado and Ruslan Provodnikov until he retires, then Pacquiao will have a good chance of prolonging his career” is precisely the cherrypicking and mismatchmaking, catchweight-compromising strategy that has prolonged Manny’s* career for the past 8 years. No Risk as long as he can continue to collect v. vulnerable and negotiable house fighters. Btw, it was Manny who once again insisted on dictating purse-split following his KO Loss to and who said “NO” to Marquez’s offer of facing him a 5th time in Mexico. Pacquiao’s* focus on prolonging his career has always been the primary bone of contention with paying fight-fans who prefer that Pacquiao* risk a loss v. equally prime and capable competition. something that Team Punkuiao* has carefully avoided as much as they possibly can. underestimating the “older”, “slower”, and “smaller” Marquez is the glaring exception. resulting in one bogus “official” win in III and a DEVASTATING and rivalry-ending KO Loss in IV.

Posted December 30, 2013 11:01 am 


deepwater15523

contracts mean something. why demand a contract be broken? isnt that illegal?

Posted December 30, 2013 11:00 am 


deepwater15523

why cant arum have anything to do with it?

Posted December 30, 2013 10:58 am 


PEEJ

Its funny how all these Pac fans where making excuses for Pac when he was scared of needles, or was superstitious, or made him weak. But when he asked Rios to do it all you Pac fans said he had good reason too. When in actuality he didn’t. Then when they say they need to build a stadium for the fight or Floyd is going to jail yall once again come to Pacs aid. When in actuality no stadium needs to be built and the fight could of happened because Floyd didn’t go to jail till a month later. And you folks really think Floyd wants to deal with Arum again after all that. That is laughable.

Posted December 30, 2013 10:57 am 


PEEJ

There is no because of this because of that. Tell Arum he can’t be apart of this fight plain and simple. once the fight is over Pac can still pay Arum his fee.

Posted December 30, 2013 10:55 am 


Gerry

Come on Floyd, your undefeated. You can easily beat Pacquiao, right?! If you really want to fight Manny, then get on with. We’re tired of hearing it won’t happen because of this, because of that. If there’s a will, there’s a way.

Posted December 30, 2013 10:31 am 


deepwater15523

duran would have showed up to floyds mansion and knocked out a bodyguard to make the fight. bob arum and pac should hold apress conference evry week and explain how floyd is scared

Posted December 30, 2013 10:26 am 


third world

deep water my man you nailed it. this is your p4p #1 and fighter of the year people.enjoy the show…………………. 1-2 times every year. al bernstein says this is the best year in boxing in 25 years. i don’t think so. i grew up with duran and leonard,hearns,and hagler.floyd will never fight an opponent who is not inawe of him. he’s cheating himself. it’s all about that 0 and that cash.

Posted December 30, 2013 10:25 am 


deepwater15523

illegal and pathetic to use influence to violate existing contracts. espinoza is a crook. floyd is a bum

Posted December 30, 2013 9:11 am 


deepwater15523

good job mafia boss. way to violate contracts and break rules

Posted December 30, 2013 9:09 am 


MANNY PACQUIAO

Hello. Manny Pacquiao here. I am very sorry i have not fought Floyd Mayweather yet. I am asking my promoter Mr. Bob Arum and adviser, Mr. Michael Koncz to arrange a fight with Floyd, especially now I am being investigated by both the IRS and the Philippino revenue service.
It is partly my fault the fight has not happened. I have been happy to beat up a few stiffs, whilst letting my name get bigger and was hoping to make the Mayweather fight 18 months ago, but i forgot to duck when I fought Marquez and was overtrained with leg cramps. Now, I am fully focused on a big fight as i need the money and would like to get a rematch clause, win-or-lose as i need the money.
My promoter is still telling me I can make more money and he has told me that from next year, 2014 I will have 3 fights a year until 2018 and will make even more money over this period than I will make on the short end of the stick if I fight Mr. Mayweather.
I have been told that the list will include Provodnikov, Bradley and other top Rank fighters who will be fast tracked to face me.
If I am honest though, I am very tired and will only eant to fight 2 or 3 more times, but I will need to fight perhaps 10 more fights to pay back the money I owe and if this is what Mr. Arum and Mr. Koncz wish then I am happy yo oblige. I owe them so much.
Manny Pacquiao

Posted December 30, 2013 8:25 am 


john smith

Just fight if you are the Best A you claim fight Pacman …if not not ppv will be low to showtime boxing fans cant be fooled Anymore Exposed cowardness

Posted December 30, 2013 7:57 am 


Edgar Guevara

Don’t make it, you media are tiresome with this drama. Mayweather doesn’t want that fight, then beat it.

Posted December 30, 2013 6:53 am 


Havoc

Stupid demand! If you can beat Manny just make the fight now. Deal with Arum and level the playing field. Scared Mayweather! If your so good and way better than Pacman why in the world you are scared or afraid of Pacman?

Posted December 30, 2013 5:29 am 


Old Coot

Yep… Talk 2 ya then. G-nite all!

Posted December 30, 2013 4:26 am 


Slick one

100% AGREE!!!!
Finally a little sense of what’s reality!

Posted December 30, 2013 4:23 am 


Ray Ray

Ha ha ha outback Northern Australia……pretty big boat. Pretty big rifles onboard, guys im going with no what there doing. I’ll b back next yr. B good, talk 2 u than.

Posted December 30, 2013 4:22 am 


Old Coot

Oh yeah… Barramundi is in the outback of Aussiland… It’s Burundi that’s in Africa? LOL!! Anyway Good fishing… Sound like a blast.

Posted December 30, 2013 4:19 am 


Old Coot

Ray Ray: Crocs huh? CRIKEY!! Headed to the outback Bush or the coast of Africa? Anyway… Just watch it brah… I wanna see ya back here arguing for Floyd next year.

Posted December 30, 2013 4:13 am 


Old Coot

Mumbles Mayweather: Exactly right… This is more about Floyd’s hating that Arum wouldn’t kiss his ass, and it about Floyd wanting to see Manny bow to Floyd’s bruised ego going way back to when Manny had the gall to be good enough to jump in Floyd’s PPV sand box and kick the sands of challenge into his face, even before Floyd started ducking him.

Posted December 30, 2013 4:08 am 


Ray Ray

Not as scared as barramundi should b from myself and some friends, ha ha. Or maybe I should say not as scared as me of the crocodiles lerking around the boat ha ha. :)

Posted December 30, 2013 3:59 am 


Mumbles Mayweather

Some of you Mayweather brown-nosers are just as arrogant.

Cotto left Top Rank because the deal he was getting would be the best he would ever get at that point in his career. What Mayweather is offering Manny is unfair and they both know it. Sure, it might be the best pay Pacquiao might get, but because negotiations have had rediculous retarded demands from Mayweather and his camp, why would he sign? They both know that Manny deserves more…

Mayweather is doing everything he can to protect his (0). He knows once that goes, so do his big pay day fights. I guarantee he will give in to whatever Manny wants when he’s completed his 4 fight contracts. What a pussy!

Posted December 30, 2013 3:59 am 


Old Coot

Who’s Your Daddy!: That’s exactly right! Just another excuse designed to look like a reason… And Floydiots keep eating it up!!

Posted December 30, 2013 3:55 am 


Old Coot

Ray Ray: It’s all good… Happy New Year and good luck on the trip… Floyd still scare though :-)

Posted December 30, 2013 3:53 am 


Who’s Your Daddy!

AGAIN ! All these FLOYDIOTS are truly IMBECILES!!! Floydie knows that Manny won’t leave Top Rank that’s why he’s using this excuse not to fight MANNY. Don’t you get it FLOYDIOTS!!! WAKE UP! USE YOUR SIMPLE COMMON SENSE IF YOU HAVE ANY LEFT!!! I DON’T WANNA HEAR ANYMORE EXCUSES… OTHERWISE TELL YOUR FLOYDIE JUST STEP UP AND FIGHT TO SHOW TO THE BOXING WORLD WHO’S TRULY THE KING AND THE BIGGEST PPV EVER!

Posted December 30, 2013 3:52 am 


Old Coot

And I bet that is would be a UD, and that Manny would win at least 9 rounds.

Posted December 30, 2013 3:50 am 


Old Coot

I bet on Rios to lose not Manny to win.

Posted December 30, 2013 3:48 am 


Ray Ray

Manny vs Rios wow u gambler u…..u must have outlayed a fair amount 2 get that return on a massive favourite. Oh well I tried, and every1 can c 4 themselves u didnt want it? Good luck with the betting on manny than? U enjoy the new yr. Im sure we can disagree next yr when im done with my fishing trip.

Posted December 30, 2013 3:46 am 


Old Coot

Ray Ray… You make me laugh, almost as much as Floyd does!

Posted December 30, 2013 3:41 am 


Old Coot

Ray Ray: Nope… I will be betting on Manny elsewhere though… He just won me $470 bucks on Rios. Not Floyd type, bets but good scratch anyhow… And when I bet on Floyd to lose to Manny I will REALLY clean up, even with a small bets because you clowns really think Floyd will outclass Manny!!

Posted December 30, 2013 3:39 am 


Old Coot

Oh EYE see… I’M blind?… Manny never failed ONE test, and has yet to hit up twitter with cartoons of wishful thinking and juvenile insults. But Floyd failed at least 2, maybe 3 and paid Manny off for defaming his ass… LOL!!!

Posted December 30, 2013 3:35 am 


Ray Ray

Old coot-c’mon thats a bit hypacriticle? Saying Floyds all talk and needs 2 back it up. Now ur doing the same thing, u wont put ur talking on the line? If u no Manny would beat him y not take that bet?

Posted December 30, 2013 3:35 am 


Ray Ray

Peddle the same nonsence? No sir. Only talk floyd 2 stir u blind pactards up….and its easy. I dont like Floyd hes an idiot. However i respecy his boxing skills. I add my opinios 2 articles that dont involve these 2, unlike yourself?

Posted December 30, 2013 3:32 am 


Old Coot

Ray Ray: As do you peddle the same Floyd nonsense!… But no bet… You’re just mad that Floyd is scared of Pacman… Anyway um hear to stay… But I will win big duckies when Pac beats that ass! LOL!!

Posted December 30, 2013 3:26 am 


Old Coot

If Floyd ever finds the balls, I think ya’ll will be in for a serious shock… Floyd simply is not fast enough, doesn’t punch enough nor hard enough to gain Manny’s respect… If Cotto could drive Floyd to the ropes and bloody him… Manny will turn his greasy ass into Willie Lump Lump, and easier than you fool think!!

Posted December 30, 2013 3:24 am 


all five of Mayweather’s fights between the start of 2009 and mid-2013 were contested in front of EMPTY seats.

Coot has the beat.

Posted December 30, 2013 3:23 am 


Ray Ray

Old coot- Bet than…2015 when the fight happens if Manny gets free of Arum than u take Manny I take Floyd and the loser leaves ESB. And people will easily b able 2 tell if its u under a diff name….u only say the same things?

Posted December 30, 2013 3:22 am 


teflon

Who cares about punch output when you missing. No one can land on Floyd is the problem boys. Also Floyd beat Cotto and Oscar at 154 not a dehydrated 147 like Manny. Also Manny was KOing everyone after he moved up in weight I mean he has beating junior middleweights before then he was a average fighter certainly not the killer became he has on the juice. Michael Moorer was trained by Roach and he knew exactly what Manny was on and thats why Floyd would never fight him without being tested by Blood since then all kinds of guys are getting caught. And since then Manny no longer has any KO power like before Ray Charles can see the boy was on P.E.D.s and now he is clean and now he will continue to get his ass whooped. Manny never beat anyone undefeated either, you mean to tell me a guy that dropped a warrior like Cotto couldnt take out Rios who stood right in front of him and didnt move? GTFO

Posted December 30, 2013 3:21 am 


Old Coot

OK… Ray… You’r seeing what you want to… Not the facts on compubox… Anyway… It should be an easy win for Floyd… So tell his goat-smellin, Floyd to prove ya’ll right then… And quit blaming the universe instead!

Posted December 30, 2013 3:21 am 


Ray Ray

Nope just checked again….Floyd out landed him….Maybe ur glasses need cleaning lol

Posted December 30, 2013 3:18 am 


BLUESMAN

Ray Ray’s got tha beat!

Posted December 30, 2013 3:18 am 


BLUESMAN

@ Old Coot: All due respect, but here’s what I think. Floyd Mayweather would counter-punch the crap outta Manny Pacquiao and stop him. Marquez counter-punched the crap outta Pacquiao all four times they fought. The 4th time Marquez and Pacquiao fought Marquez landed a counter right that put Pacquiao to sleep, and Pacquiao never beat Marquez- the judges gave Pacquiao two gift decisions and a gift draw. Marquez is a very good counter-puncher no doubt, but Floyd is even better and in a class of his own. Floyd gave Cotto a BAD beating and almost knocked him out in the last round, winning the fight handily. And let’s not forget the BAD beating Floyd gave Marquez. I’m not saying anything, I’m just saying.

Posted December 30, 2013 3:17 am 


Ray Ray

Old coot- ha ha ha u just proved how stupid u are? Those lead foots like Marquez ha ha ha ha. That lead foot has 1 of the most memerable Kos ever…..good night manny zzzz ha ha u idiot, u walked in2 that 1 just like manny

Posted December 30, 2013 3:15 am 


Old Coot

And it’s know… NOT ‘no” fool… Damn you dumb!

Posted December 30, 2013 3:14 am 


Old Coot

That IS Compubox, total punch stats blind ass!! LOL!

Posted December 30, 2013 3:14 am 


Ray Ray

Old coot- dont no what ur looking at go 2 compubox. Floyd landed more jabs power shots and punxhes in total. And iv already showed u the score card. Score cards what matters like in Manny v Bradley….except when u get KTFO like manny did. No need 2 go 2 the cards than.

Posted December 30, 2013 3:13 am 


Old Coot

Ray Ray: Floyd can only make them lead foots like Gatti, Marquez, Guererro and Alvarez miss… Manny will run his goat-smellin/ ass down and beat him twice as bad as Cotto did!!

Posted December 30, 2013 3:10 am 


Old Coot

Ray Ray: Who are you kidding?…

Floyd: rd 1- 13/39, rd 2- 16/64, rd 3- 18/60, rd 4- 19/58, rd 5- 24/72, rd 6- 9/50,
rd 7- 11/45, rd 8- 13/75, rd 9- 13/63, rd 10- 10/49, rd 11- 15/53, rd 12- 18/59

Cotto: rd 1- 5/36, rd 2- 9/47, rd 3- 12/49, rd 4- 4/30, rd 5- 12/68, rd 6- 8/41,
rd 7-7/32, rd 8- 20/65, rd 9- 10/41, rd 10- 7/33, rd 11- 6/36, rd 12- 5/28

From rounds 6 to 10, floyd landed in near single digits and cotto was just like 3 punches less per round. And that was when Cotto was tired… Manny will KILL FLOYD’S ASS and both he and you knows it!! LOL!!

Posted December 30, 2013 3:08 am 


Ray Ray

Manny can throw what he wants…..u need 2 land punches 2 win….Floyd will make him miss and pay. Win? Not only do I think he would win but it would b a wide margin UD or a late Ko 117-111 on all cards if the late Ko didnt occure. Its easy throwing punchers v guy like Rios, Clottey. Dif storey when the guy makes u pay.

Posted December 30, 2013 3:00 am 


Ray Ray

Oh uv changed ur tune…..when has Floyd ever stood on the ropes the last 3 rnds and let a guy attack him. Well try 2 attack Floyd was toying with him and still got the best of the exchanges. How many times Pac been hit well over 100? U dont have enough fingers an toes 2 count that.

Posted December 30, 2013 2:57 am 


Old Coot

think

Posted December 30, 2013 2:55 am 


Old Coot

And you really thing Floyd can beat Pacman throwing 600 and landing like 180 punches or less. Manny throws like 900 punches… That means he will probably land 300!!

Posted December 30, 2013 2:54 am 


Old Coot

And when was the last time anyone landed 100+ punches on Floyd? HUH?!

Posted December 30, 2013 2:52 am 


Ray Ray

Old coot- total punch stats 4 Mayweather v Cotto Mayweather landed 179/687. Cotto landed 105/506. Floyd landed more jabs and power shots also? I dont no what stats u think u no but u might trydoing some homework b4 making up lies?

Posted December 30, 2013 2:49 am 


Mansworld

Coot do you realize that all your posts are the same rants Manny the great this and that. Floyd is scared to fight Manny. And honestly I actually agree with you he terrified of a guy with 5 losses and has put in snooze time out ,By Marquez that didnt win one round on him. He lays up at night wondering about Mannys punching power that couldnt KO bradley, Marquez or Rios. And how much Mannys means to his legacy he is crying his eyes out in fear in his 10 million dollar mansion and his 20 cars. He actually is scared when he drive his Bugatti in fear wondering what will happen when he faces Manny the great, And your right all of these guys carried Floyd on his ppv numbers and he is not really the richest man in sports, And he really didnt just win the best fighter of 2014, Matter of fact Marquez got a lucky shot, and he didnt knock Manny down twice and C.J. Ross cheated him in the bradley fight and he really Dont owe 68 million to the IRS and Floyd can just say yes and snap his fingers and the fight can happen. No matter what Arum says and Floyd needs to prove to everyone that he is better than Manny. Because Manny is really afraid of needles and is a born again Christian that loves to sing.

Posted December 30, 2013 2:47 am 


Ray Ray

Old coot- dont worry about what ever stats u think u no the 1 that matters is the 1 I have below. Manny wont gas? Ha ha ha thats the funniest thing iv heard. After 4 rnds Mannys in and out, up and down head movement stops….than he gets tagged alot. Especially from a counter lead right. e.g Marquez putting him face 1st 2 sleep. Whos got a better straight lead than Marquez? Il give u 1 guess his name also starts with M.

Posted December 30, 2013 2:41 am 


Old Coot

And Ray Ray… Keep dreaming… Floyd will never, Never, EVER fight Pac-Man!!… He’s just keep blaming Arum, PEDs and purse splits! LOL!!!

Posted December 30, 2013 2:37 am 


Old Coot

Ray Ray… Look at Floyds punch stats VS Cotto… The lowest of Floyd’s career, Cotto got to his ass… And Manny is Cotto X 2!! Hell, if Cotto didn’t get winded late… Who knows? But Manny won’t!!!

Posted December 30, 2013 2:35 am 


Ray Ray

Old coot- mayweather v cotto was real close 118-110….117-111….117-111 hmmm about as close as u could get…..Im looking 4ward 2 Manny in 2014, i think he will lose….just b prepared just in case it happens, dont want u 2 up set.

Posted December 30, 2013 2:23 am 


ajacks

Floyd dont neex manny to sell he can fight these 4 guys and put up over a mill ppvs Chino, garcia, Cotto, canelo, if manny dont leave top rank.. floyd next 4 possible fight…
Manny…..bradley, ruslan, and those are his options no one else… so if he want to improve his financial situation he neex to leave TR

Posted December 30, 2013 2:11 am 


Just a boxing fan

Really??!!

If Floyd wants this to happen it will! end of story.

Posted December 30, 2013 2:09 am 


Anonymous

o;oij’pomp,

Posted December 30, 2013 2:04 am 


Old Coot

Anonymous: Don’t fool yourself joker. Alvarez was half the PPV draw… The Mayweather VS Guererro numbers before that is proof… And I won $600 betting on El Cinnamon to lose because I said here on ESB the day after they announced that Canelo had good hands but lead feet and that Floyd would just keep his distance and pot shot a UD… Again. And I was right… Bottom line, Floyd will never face a real threat… His ego made him slip up and pick Cotto, and that semi-mistake was the closest opponent Floyd will EVER risk that can keep up with and pound his ass… Which means we can count Manny out… Because Floyd simply pisses his Huggies at the slightest hint about fighting The Pac-Man!!

Posted December 30, 2013 2:01 am 


murderman

Manny will keep eating top rank guys. Floyd will keep eating golden boy fighters. Same as always nothing new. Pac will never leave arum and top rank! When jmm and cotto briefly left tr the got the fight w floyd asap! I believe the same cold happen for pac if he is willing to leave. Even if its for 1 fight.

Posted December 30, 2013 2:01 am 


ajacks

PTS……How has manny had more memorable fights when manny fought most of his matches at catch weights… cotto, dlh, tony ect… manny fans only see things one way… unlike a boxing fan who see both sides and it seems like when manny does something its ok and when floyd does the same its wrong… like the drug testing he made rios do is the same thing floyd mayweather wS asking for…

Posted December 30, 2013 1:58 am 


Old Coot

rod: If Floyd knew Manny was on drugs, then why did Floyd never show up in court, and paid Manny off to drop the lawsuit?… Not to mention floyd got USADA waivers to cover up from NSAC that he failed 3 blood-tests… Pretty ironic that the only real cheater of the two is Floyd!! LOL! Floyd was, is and always will be scared of Pac-man… But you keep right on fooling yourself that it’s about Arum and purse spits and such… HAAAAHHHH!!!

Posted December 30, 2013 1:53 am 


Anonymous

PTS you got to be the dumbest man alive Floyd has the too of the highest paid boxing matches in the history of the sport. I bet your next post will be money dont matter lol. Alverez carried Floyd what a joke. What about Oscar Floyd is the biggest star in boxing and your boy needs him to pay his bills, I know you love that Coot. Floyd can fight Garcia or Kahn and sell out Vegas, His fights get 1 million ppv on a slow night you want to know why? Because idiots will pay to see hoping he looses and really they are making him richer. You see its all a game, Manny has never even had 1 million ppv ever, Also he never beat a undefeated fighter, He didnt avenge his losses but he is so so great? PTS you sir are a pactard along with coot farm box and all the rest of these fools. Did you cry with Junee like Coot did.

Posted December 30, 2013 1:51 am 


pts

Teflon…you’re talking out of your ass, what do you know that everyone else doesn’t?? There is NOT one problem that cannot be overcome, especially making a fight happen. Pac stated on national t.v. he’s interested in facing Floyd. What does Floyd say? He says, “Pac isn’t on my level.” Assuming that were true, Floyd should just prove it physically and because it cannot be proved on words alone. The fight can be made. It has yet to be know that Arum doesn’t want the fight. You would have to be a real Floyd jock strap sucker to believe that is true. No way in hell Arum will turn down the type of money the fight will generate. I mean, even you can’t believe Arum is trying to stifle Manny by preventing the fight from becoming reality, do you? Tell me it ain’t so. The way you word it, it’s like Arum is Manny’s daddy and will not allow his lil “boy” to fight lil Floyd. GTFOH!!!!

Posted December 30, 2013 1:50 am 


Old Coot

Floyd’s fans are either overly dedicated or just real stupid… Why would you support a guy who robs you blind with snore bouts, then mocks your intellect by trying to pretend all this is about Arum or drugs… And forget purse-spits… Hell, a real champ would show his fan some well-deserved appreciation for making him perhaps the highest paid athlete ever!! And he can do so by swallowing just tad of his ego, and pride, then accept an equitable deal to give those fans the fight they really want… I mean seriously, it’s ain’t like he wouldn’t clear close to a $100 mil, even if he gave Manny 50%!!!

Posted December 30, 2013 1:49 am 


rod

floyd offered pac 40mil to fight, pac refused. Then pac refused drug testing. Pac simply does not want to fight floyd.

Posted December 30, 2013 1:48 am 


The Prince

typo – reflect reality.

Posted December 30, 2013 1:48 am 


The Prince

I find it hilarious how people keep saying Floyd’s PPV numbers are solely based on the other guy and how Floyd will never do those type of numbers again. I first heard that nonsense after the De La Hoya fight. Yet, Floyd Mayweather continues to break PPV records per event. Mayweather detractors posts don’t reflex reality. I guess Floyd’s 4 million plus twitter followers is also because of the “other” guy and not anyone being a fan of such the boring, running, cherrypicking fraud.

Posted December 30, 2013 1:46 am 


pts

Floyds contract with Showtime is dependent on Floyd’s future PPV numbers. His fight with Canelo was carried by Canelo so Floyd WiLL NOT repeat that feat ever….UNLESS….it’s with PAC, you can bet on that. Once those numbers go down, so will Floyds per fight earnings. ShowTime , like any business is not in it to lose money. Floyd has no opponents left that will eclipse 1.3M ppv buys, ever! And that’s if he’s lucky. Fans are not interested in seeing him fight has beens like guerrero and ortiz, much less pay nearly $80 for such exhibitions. For that, Floyd should just retire.

Posted December 30, 2013 1:42 am 


The Prince

teflon – These people commenting against Floyd know this deep down. They just don’t care.

Posted December 30, 2013 1:40 am 


Old Coot

Ray Ray… Every comment you Floydiots make telegraphs that deep-down ya’ll know Floyd is scared of Pacman, while pretending it’s all about Arum, drugs or purse splits. Quit co-signing Floyd slick ducking tactics! I mean WTF dude?!!

Posted December 30, 2013 1:40 am 


teflon

It amazes me how people act like they dont understand what a contract is. Manny is under Arums contract people he cant fight Floyd if Arum dont say so And he never has or will. Floyd never had the ability to say who can and cannot fight Manny Arum has. And he never agrees to work with Golden boy. And it is for this reason alone what the fight can NEVER be made. And it dont Matter how much you cry Manny is sold out to a snake. Bradley is undefeated and he has yet to fight outside of top rank. What about Floyd, Garcia and Maidana? Thes guys are the top contenders and you will NEVER see Manny or Bradley face these guys. But you will see Bradley vs. Manny or Ruslan in which it wont sell. Manny will most likely loose to either guy. And honestly people will still say Floyd is scared. Arum is a crook and a prick And all these post are these cry baby winning ass men who dont understand that Arum controls Manny he always has. Floyd is with Golden boy so he picks who he wants to fight and they make it happen based on his terms. Arum once again has NEVER agreed to the terms and he never will. Richard Schaffer, Oscar even 50 cent no one can work with this guy, Thats why he lost all his fighters to Golden boy to this day. And all of this scared talk Manny is the best, Manny is the one that has to prove something and thats called being a man and handling your buisness hence thats why he is broke to this day. Manny is a total joke thats why Floyd sent him the Christmas card. No way in hell he should be broke. Arum holds all the cards fellas he always has not stop the blood clot crying….

Posted December 30, 2013 1:35 am 


pts

Ajacks…you’re dizzy. Monetarily, neither Pac nor Floyd need each other however, it is a known fact Pac has had more career defining fights than Floyd has. Both Floyd and Pac are considered to be not only the best welterweights but the most recognizable welterweights nationally and the only two welterweights who can sell PPV fights time after time. Floyd’s problem is, that considering his skills, has never fought any fighter who was a threat to his record. The closest Floyd came to losing officially was when the judges awarded him his win against Castillo. Outside of that fight, Floyd has not had ANY fight comparable to that level. Please dont count DLH, Cotto, Mosely or Canelo who were either past their prime or a catchweight fight. Most people feel he lost the fight with castillo. Now, Floyd can decide not to fight Pac but history will judge him for the types of opponents he fought AND the one he didn’t. I doubt history will be kind to him and he will have only himself to blame. He would have you think he made himself but he ignores the fact that the business is run with money that is generated by fans of the sport. If fans don’t watch him the networks would eventually boot him, and this is the message fans need to strongly make Floyd know.

Posted December 30, 2013 1:30 am 


Yo MOMMA

ajacks- “….Pac man has to use arum… he can not make the fight without arum…. when you are promoted bysomeone you can not say im promoting myself this fight… ”

“…manny is about to run out of people to fight. It is only 2 people left in the top rank company he can fight becausr they can not fight golden boy fighters Nd that bradley in a rematch and his old sparing partner the Russian…”

A. Mayweather promotes himself and with cooperation from Golden Boy. So its not impossible and a promoter is only there to make you know to the world mainly. ( I think Pacquioa is well known by now ) The financial part can be taken care of by TMT and Golden Boy promotions and Pacquioa has his advisory attorney with him too.

B. Pacquioa HAS RUN out of opponents. There are no good fight left with Top Rank unless he rematches and recycles boring fights. Bradley, Mosely, Clottey? Marquez is done and out.

Posted December 30, 2013 1:29 am 


Ray Ray

40mi. Arum/ Pac no we want more than that? Dreaming.

Posted December 30, 2013 1:28 am 


pts

What the FK does it matter who’s Pac’s promoter. If Floyd doesn’t want to fight Pac just say it and stop making excuses, this way fans will know whether or not to boycott his fights. When a fighter wants to prove he’s the best, he doesn’t go about it by coercion which in Floyd’s case is closer to extortion. This is NOT good faith negotiating. Floyd needs to concentrate on wanting to fight Pac and STOP attempting to make fight dependent on who Pac’s promoter is. If that is Floyd’s stance, Pac should tell him to go and FK himself and fans in return should boycott Floyd’s future fights.

Posted December 30, 2013 1:18 am 


Old Coot

Yeah FLOYD… Just prove you can beat the guy already!! LOL!!

Posted December 30, 2013 1:16 am 


WHAT!?!

If it walks like a chicken and squawks like a chicken then it is a …….. FMJ. Geez FMJ just beat the guy up and collect your crown.

Posted December 30, 2013 12:59 am 


ajacks

Pac man has to use arum… he can not make the fight without arum…. when you are promoted bysomeone you can not say im promoting myself this fight… what is funny is floyd is always the one that take the blame for this fight not happening… remember like 4 years ago they was about to fight and manny pulled out because he did not want to do blood and urine samples and for his last fight he made brandon do blood and urine samples…why can he make demands on people he fights and you people get mad because floyd has his demands…. remember floyd dont need manny its the other way around.. manny is about to run out of people to fight. It is only 2 people left in the top rank company he can fight becausr they can not fight golden boy fighters Nd that bradley in a rematch and his old sparing partner the Russian

Posted December 30, 2013 12:56 am 


Yo MOMMA

Old Coot- you make an intresting and valid point.

Posted December 30, 2013 12:28 am 


The Prince

Simply put, Golden Boy is doing better than Top Rank because they have the better stock of fighters and match ups; they also have the trump card of working with Floyd Mayweather Jr. who doesn’t have a grudge against Oscar like he does against Arum. Floyd right now is the number one draw when it comes to a major payday fight. For this reason alone, many Top Rank fighters might jump ship and sign with Golden Boy, just for the chance to fight Mayweather if he continues to win big in 2014. Like the man said years ago: “All roads lead to Floyd Mayweather.”

Posted December 29, 2013 11:39 pm 


Old Coot

Now see? This is why the boxing I love is dying…. It boggles the mind that such thin-skinned children get to run a lemonade stand, let alone get filthy rich running any sport, promotion firm, or network… Hell, Truth be told, Manny is the only real grownup of the lot!!

Posted December 29, 2013 11:31 pm 


big moe

Donaire, bradley and pac might leave top rank. Donaire tried a little while ago, but the judge upheld the top rank contract. Its rumored that Bradley owes TR one more fight. Im not sure about Donaire. But this would leave arum high and dry. Should Pac and Bradley leave, as one poster said, big fights, outside of floyd would happen and they would crack a million buys. Golden Boys undercards have been better than Top ranks.

Posted December 29, 2013 11:19 pm 


Mark

NEWS FLASH – AP – Manilla – Today, 8 division world champion, Manny Pacquaio reportedly said that he would not fight Pussy Boy Floyd unless and until Floyd left both Mayweather Promotions and Golden Boy Promotions. Pacquaio continued on the state the “Floyd he have to have de mouth sex with Mr. Bob and then I fight him.”. Reaction from the Mayweather camp was cautiously optimistic. Mayweather representative Leonard Ellerbe reportedly comments “ah hell, if there is enough money on the table, I know Floyd will do the mouth sex thing.” Fans in Maniila eagerly await Floyd’s commitment to leave his promotion company and blow Bob Arum. In a related story, Adrian Broner is reported to have said “I’ll blow Bob if it will get me another fight on Showtime!”

Posted December 29, 2013 11:12 pm 


Yo MOMMA

Looks like Pacquioa has no other option now that Marquez is out of the question. He will have to concede to Mayweather’s terms.

Posted December 29, 2013 11:04 pm 


Yo MOMMA

–Negotiation To Take Place

“There are rumours on a number of boxing forums that Pacquiao has already booked a flight to the United States, and his main purpose there is to meet Mayweather personally. Moreover, there are some reports that Pacquiao will be representing only himself during the meeting, without any backings from the Top-Rank promotions.

Top-Rank locked in Pacquiao until 2014, but the Filipino slugger can enter into a negotiation with Mayweather promotions as free agent for this specific fight alone. It would be interesting to see if Pacquiao’s camp can come into terms with Mayweather to make the fight of the century happen next year.”

Posted December 29, 2013 11:01 pm 


pride

All I am wondering is what will Floyd’s excuse be when Pac dumps Top Rank when his contract expires at the end of 2014.

Posted December 29, 2013 10:23 pm 


PEEJ

Yeah this was a great year in boxing. The emergence of 3 fight cards put on by Golden Boy and the 4 fight cards as well. Top Rank put on a couple good fights as well. The fights on F1, NBC, the Fox Deportes. Great year for boxing and very profitable.

Posted December 29, 2013 10:09 pm 


Manny is ducking Bradley

Fighting Words have you not heard that Manny owes 50 million in taxes in the Philippines, and 18 milling to the IRS- Have you not heard all of his asset have been frozen both here and in the Philippines. Did you not hear that he had to borrow money to help the phillipine sunami victims– Top Rank and Koncz have stolen manny’s money- He will die a broke -pessant–

Posted December 29, 2013 10:09 pm 


PEEJ

His tax issues have everything to do with Arum and Koncz. Arum stated that he paid Pacs taxes after every fight. Koncze was responsible for his money befor Arum. He had tax write offs written down on pieces of paper. (That doesn’t pass). Arum used to be a tax lawyer. No Pac takes blame for who he has managing his money but Arum and Koncz is the reason why he is in trouble at the moment

Posted December 29, 2013 10:07 pm 


wayne

Just more BS from Floyd. I understood the PED testing part. But that was his only legitimate excuse.

Posted December 29, 2013 9:49 pm 


Fighting Words

Pacquiao should not change promoters if being treated fairly and he is happy with Top Rank. The author made an excellent point. Why Pacquiao leave Top Rank just to fight Mayweather when he make 20 million fighting the guys he is fighting. Unlike Mayweather Pacquiao is not really greedy about the money , he got all the money he needs that his children and his children children will never want again. He wants to fight Mayweather for the fans. This is like the same thing that happen to Mike Tyson. When Tyson was promoted by Don King he was making $30 million a fight to fight tune ups, and then he left and was barely getting $5 million, you don’t have to be rocket scientist to do that math.

Posted December 29, 2013 9:33 pm 


Ray Ray

Typo i was meaning the heavyweight class might start 2 Blossom with Klitchko retired and younger brother not far off. Lots of young guys coming through, love 2 c the big boy devision exciting again?

Posted December 29, 2013 9:09 pm 


Ray Ray

Tomato can- I agree…some upsets and new stars born and old stsrs still burning brightly, a little bitof every thing….a gd yr. Im looking 4 ward 2 seeing what guys like Danny/ Mikey Garcia, stevenson, Lemachenko, Rigo, Lara do in 2014? Aswell as the older guys in Pac, Floyd, Cotto,sergio and b hop do? Should b interesting…..Maybe the heavyweight champ can begin 2 blossom with the new landscape? Happy new yr..

Posted December 29, 2013 9:07 pm 


Tomato Can

Really, I thought it was a great year of boxing; really one of the best in recent memory. I hope next year as just as good…

Posted December 29, 2013 8:58 pm 


kc

As time passes I have less and less interest in this so called sport. I’ve become disappointed by the blind posters on this site. I’ve become numb by the bias post… even my own. The Pac fans, the Fraud fans etc…and all the nonsense. Sad year in boxing… I know many followers that have as of some time back given up trying to follow matches that take ridiculous amounts of time to make… Fading away and glad…

Posted December 29, 2013 8:50 pm 


Yo MOMMA

Juan Manuel Marquez, Manny Pacquioa, Timothy Bradley should leave top Rank and go with Golden Boy promotions…then we (the fans) would see the fights we really want to watch. There is alot of talent with GBP.

Posted December 29, 2013 8:37 pm 


Tomato Can

Mansworld/Ray Ray, I agree with both of you really. But the fact remains Arum still has enough pull to continue with all Top Rank fights for Manny. As far as the PVP numbers go, I’m sure Arum would like smaller numbers with Pac, then none at all. I would like to see Manny make the move, get the Mayweather fight, or even other GBP fights. I just doubt it’ll happen. I too would hate to see manny broke (no matter the cause) and brain damaged at the conclusion of his career.

Posted December 29, 2013 8:31 pm 


Yo MOMMA

Yea at this point Pacquioa is stuck with no good opponent except a 5th fight with Marquez and thats NOT happening. Pacquioa should sign up with Golden Boy promotions and see how all the good fights will be available to him. Just saying. If Top Rank isnt paying him, why not make the move? make the money and retire with lots of cash. just a thought of course even if he didnt fight Mayweather, Pacquioa would have more fighters to choose from…

Posted December 29, 2013 8:29 pm 


Ray Ray

Theres enough interest in Manny vs Bradley 2….Both had exciting fights since and after the last fight ended people will tune in 2 c vindicatipn or the end of an era…

Posted December 29, 2013 8:28 pm 


Ray Ray

GBP Alexander, Lara, Khan, Alvarez, Molina, Maidana, Mayweather, Thurman, Matthysse, Danny Garcia, Mayweather, im sure iv left guys out of this list bit theres alot more options there than Bradley an Ruslan….even porter. Im not sure Manny gets through the toprank guys 2014 without a lose?

Posted December 29, 2013 8:26 pm 


Mansworld

Tomato can the fights you speak of Manny can fight Ruslan or Bradley yes he can the problem is no one will pay to see these fights though. The Rios bout had less than 400,000 ppv. Manny fought undefeated Bradley and they thought he would be big and it only had 800,000 ppvs. His last fight with Marquez Manny made 3 mil. But he turned down 40 million from Floyd. When Floyd fought Alverez it made 3 million ppvs at 79.95 a pop do the math. I hope he wises up and takes care of his finacial affairs becuse his blind loyalty he ensure he leaves boxing broke and brain damaged, the key is to go out on top with plenty of money and all your senses its rarely the case in the sport sad to say.

Posted December 29, 2013 8:26 pm 


Hidalgo

Well, I don’t believe that Arum is the cause of a bunch of fighters going broke or having financial problems. They all have access to lawyers, financial advisors, other promoters, etc. I doubt anyone held a gun to their heads to make them sign a deal with Bob Arum.

Posted December 29, 2013 8:17 pm 


Mansworld

Hidalgo everyone who was even with Top Rank is or was broke, Why do you think Oscar, Floyd and Cotto left. Now Marquez wants nothing to do with him. I am not saying Arum is the reason Manny is broke and is 68 million in the hole on taxes but he dam sure is the common denominator. And the reason why Floyd will never deal with him and the fight was never made. Golden boy is winning and arum hates it….

Posted December 29, 2013 8:09 pm 


Tomato Can

With Top Rank, Pacquiao can fight Bradley (this a very acceptable fight IMO); Provodnikov (while I’d pick Manny to win, I don’t think this fight would be good for his health); Marquez (again???) or Alvarado (why???)… Another fighter he could possibly fight is Sean Porter, If I’m not mistaken Porter was Manny’s sparring partner a few years ago… In any case Pac has a few options left with Top Rank. Probably too many options for him to ever think about leaving the Bob Father…

Posted December 29, 2013 8:07 pm 


teflon

Manny is still under contract and Arum said he can only fight Bradley or Ruslan. Arum is his daddy and own his ass . Unfortunately Manny still will be broke because the public will not pay to see either fight. Regardless of how bad Manny wants to fight Floyd, Arum has his balls in a pickle jar…

Posted December 29, 2013 8:04 pm 


Ray Ray

Manny should leave not only based on getting a mayweather fight…..have a look at the talent GBP has from jr welter through 2 jr middle? Stackef with talent. Toprank, not so much.

Posted December 29, 2013 8:01 pm 


Hidalgo

Boxa$$wipe, Pacquiao’s financial troubles have nohing to do with Bob Arum. Pac has simply spent more than he has earned and he has not paid his taxes. That’s a personal problem, not a Bob Arum problem. Changing promotes won’t fix any of Pacquiao’s problems with debt or taxes. Won’t change his spending habits either.

Posted December 29, 2013 8:00 pm 


Tomato Can

Just wait there will be another one just like this tomorrow.

Posted December 29, 2013 7:59 pm 


PEEJ

As it’s been said many times before. Arum was the issue and still is the issue. To bad for Pac. Loyalty is great just sucks when the people you are loyal to takes advantage of you

Posted December 29, 2013 7:58 pm 


Hidalgo

Ahhh, another redundant article.

Posted December 29, 2013 7:58 pm 


Boxtradamus

Pacquiao should leave Top Rank based on his financial troubles IF they don’t help him to get out of it. LOOK at how much money he’s made Arum. It’s the LEAST he can DO to help Pacquiao out. And IF they don’t help you get out of tax troubles that tells you that they’re only worried about themselves SO YOU should DO the same….Leave Top Rank IF it means that you’ll make your Biggest payday. YOU have to look out for YOURSELF just as Top Rank looks out for THEMSELVES when it came to your tax issues.

Posted December 29, 2013 7:52 pm 


Tomato Can

I too don’t see Pac leaving Arum. Like I said, the trend has been other fighters sign with Top Rank for Pacquiao fights, not the other way around…

Posted December 29, 2013 7:52 pm 


Ghetto Thug

When this fight is over most of people will say “is this the fight the whole for was talking about?? is the fight that we had to wait 5 years to see??” but even then haters and Pactards will find another guy who Money is ducking maybe Wlad Klitschko or Andre Ward

Posted December 29, 2013 7:51 pm 


Pinhead

SUCH BS – exactly – for Manny to get the fight he has to leave his promoter……WHY, becasue someobne has a problem with him, someone else again calling the shots, Manny is not leaving Arum……EVER!!!

Posted December 29, 2013 7:49 pm 


Ghetto Thug

Why so many people keeps talking of this fight?? we all know it wont ever happen, Manny doesnt want to leave the guy who built him, matching him with has beens and catchweights in his favor but in the scenario of this would happen we would see a poor Pac being Marquez´d or Gattied….. No big deal for Money

Posted December 29, 2013 7:48 pm 


Pinhead

Floyd is not the best fighter in the world, but he is the smartest at getting a three way decision in a boxing match, ultra skill full and very intelligent, he knows full well that it is not certain that he wins this fight, everyone really knows this……..Mayweather is the favorite, but not enough to where it is a sure thing………Thus the threat is too great.

Posted December 29, 2013 7:44 pm 


Yo MOMMA

Prince- Even though I hate the excuses from the Mayweather camp. I have to agree with you on that one. Call his bluff. Leave Top Rank and lets see if the fight does happen. As you previously stated Cotto did and I belive Juan Marquez left Golden boy to sign up with Top Rank to be able to fight Pacquioa. So maybe…maybe Pacquioa should try it and see if its true and if works….

Posted December 29, 2013 7:42 pm 


Pinhead

Prince – I appreciatte what you are saying, but also know that the business side for this is insane for it not to happen, the event and the magnitude will go down in history with at this point the result being non-important. Both fighters are near the end, but a loss will mess up tghe contract Floyd has with showtime. Floyd should not let the public select his next opponent and go with the most popular choice, especially when he might lose.

Posted December 29, 2013 7:41 pm 


The Prince

Pinhead – Then he should call Floyd’s bluff and leave Top Rank like Cotto did. That’s the problem with you Mayweather detractors argument. Cotto already proved that it’s possible to get a fight with Floyd Mayweather Jr. if you’re not with Top Rank. Marquez proved it as well. I believe Bradley will also prove it in the future. The argument doesn’t hold up. Manny is choosing not to make the fight happen himself.

Posted December 29, 2013 7:30 pm 


Tomato Can

I’m sure this will rub every Pac fan the wrong way. But the fact is no one was complaining when Mosely sold his share of GBP, and signed with Top Rank in order to fight Pac.. And no one gave a hoot when Marquez signed with Top Rank, and gave of options in future fights for his rematch with Pac… The trend has been that fighter’s do what ever it takes for a Pacquiao fight. It’s hard to see Pac ever doing what other fighters had to do in order to secure fights with him…

Posted December 29, 2013 7:29 pm 


The Prince

Manny has decided to avoid all the top competition from Golden Boy as well, so this goes beyond Floyd Mayweather. Clearly. Arum must have something over Pacquiao for him not to even consider leaving at the end of 2014. Manny Pacquiao is destroying his own legacy. Floyd is no longer a factor based on Manny’s own words.

Posted December 29, 2013 7:25 pm 


Pinhead

Have you ever seen, watched and heard such speculation on a proposed matchup? This fight would be signed sealed and dusted around a table in less than two minutes if it wasnt for one thing…..Floyd Mayweather, he chooses his own opponents, he selects the date, the counrty and the arena, and knows full well the one fight that the whole world wants to see, it has NOTHING to do with anything else other than that Manny Pacquaio is a definite threat to Floyds (0). Mannys style is a threat make no mistake about it, and a fully flying Manny is a most serious threat, the arguments on here are interesting and just, Mayweather will be the favorite with a lot of people, but there is a threat and its real. This has been talked about so long now that is really infuriating, everyone wants to see it, and real fighters and champions will take a fight and worry about the loss if it happens afterwards, Floyd is a COWARD and certainily not one of the boxers that I love, immensely skilly full yes of course but a coward………MASSIVELLY!!!!!!!

Posted December 29, 2013 7:23 pm 


Yo MOMMA

Prince- If thats true then Top Rank will be the one retiring Pacquioa down to the ground. Pacquioa’s best paychecks were with the Marquez fights and anything less will be fighting for pennys.

Posted December 29, 2013 7:21 pm 


PEEJ

Showtime is covering up anything. This has been the issue since arum wasted there time the last time. Pac is to loyal to someone stealing his money. Terrible

Posted December 29, 2013 7:21 pm 


The Prince

The conversation is over people. Manny already said that he’d rather NOT fight Floyd Mayweather than leave Top Rank. He’s decided that he will be a Top Rank fighter until he retires. It’s over.

Posted December 29, 2013 7:17 pm 


Yo MOMMA

Yea I think Marquez is done with Pacquioa, unless like you said he is guarantee a LARGE pay to fight again for the 5th time. 50 mil sounds pretty sweet… Money wont buy you happiness but it can sure buy A LOT of things. If not, Pacquioa is stuck and Arum is screwed.

Posted December 29, 2013 7:15 pm 


Aqua

Can’t buy marquez happiness pride.

Posted December 29, 2013 7:04 pm 


Aqua

That 5 fight with Marquez. Marquez isn’t Buying for less than 50 million LOL you can buy happiness pride. Lol yep arum screwed. Manny is too I think he. Can’t brake arum contract without paying price. Floyd also want a big ppv. Can’t wait for the news.

Posted December 29, 2013 7:03 pm 


Yo MOMMA

Hey wats up Aqua?..lol. The way I see it is Pacquioa is stuck without an opponent. Maybe Alvarado but I doubt he will win? Bradley I think doesnt carry a large enough fanbase and the 4th bout between Pacquioa and Marquez, I dont think Arum expected the KO.

Posted December 29, 2013 6:56 pm 


Aqua

They are going to. Meet so it seems, the biggest problem Floyd will have is to give upnthe WBA 147# belt, he done it before, but to avoild a mandatory fight with the 2 ranke WBA fighter manny, will be a strong I don’t want to fight him, and the money will be there,
So will saying I don’t want to deaL with arum be enough to drop the belt and not calling it a avoiding the fight?

Posted December 29, 2013 6:51 pm 


KILLA

Espinosa and Showtime are covering up to protect the reputation of Mayweather. If Mayweather is his own boss then he has the last said as to who he wants to fight, then it is his called NOT to fight Manny. I think as boxing fans we are being short change by Showtime and GBP. Let’s just move ON.

Posted December 29, 2013 6:45 pm 


Aqua

I too are about finish with pacman who Was one of my favorite fighter from the Mexican show down days, manny not very , and this has cost him for where he is. He has made too many mistakes.
My other fighter shawn porter has arrive to claim the top spot at 147# and what you know he has won a belt. well he has to clean house first then he be ready for Floyd in a year

Posted December 29, 2013 6:43 pm 


Aqua

Yo mama , my stolen name. Lol arum cash out of pacman from the Marquez fight. It’s was a no win for manny, win or lose, arum knew this, but it’s a cash fight, also with Bradley.
Arum money cow Is Bradley, manny contract is about up, arum would offer Bradley more to stay away from manny.

Posted December 29, 2013 6:36 pm 


Aqua

Top rank is screwed, Marquez not going to fight manny, Russian prov. Has already made plans to fight Bradley, so arum has no fighter to match up now.
Head manny and floyd will meet to talk, that just talk about a fight next year, Floyd just going totell manny to leave arum, but if Floyd promise a fight then. It’s all good.
And manny can’t fight in April . Wife due, maybe back too Garcia ?

Posted December 29, 2013 6:32 pm 


Yo MOMMA

Im sure Arum is ready to cash in on Pacquioa. Afterall, his stock (Pacquioa’s) just went down the drain BUT MAYWEATHER is the one calling the shots therefore is the one making it difficult to come to an agreement.

Posted December 29, 2013 6:30 pm 


Fight Aficionado

If boxing fans would just boycott all Floyd and Pac fights then this fight would happen. Their paydays would decline and Showtime and HBO would cave in to public pressure. Unfortunately, once their fights happen nobody boycotts anything. Discipline people.

Posted December 29, 2013 6:28 pm 


Yo MOMMA

Dude seriously? Who buys this crap? So NOW its because of the promoters feud? Funny, how that WAS NOT the original excuse that was keeping the fight from happening.

Posted December 29, 2013 6:27 pm 


Aqua

Manny doesn’t know to fight Floyd is to play his games, play along and act like Floyd is getting you angry. Guarantee you will get a fight with floyd, he old school and believe he has to get you angry before he will fight you. He believe then you go head hunting and he will pop you all night with the jab and right hand . Then be your cool self and box.

Posted December 29, 2013 6:24 pm 


gshok

i agree , and how often do we see 2 top fighters in their primes and they can fight cause of a silly greedy old man (arum) , who knows when this weill ever come around again , cant wait till he out of the picture

Posted December 29, 2013 6:03 pm 


CurlyQ.Howard

So this is Manny’s acid test. Does he really want to fight Floyd? If so, then leave Top Rank/Bob Arum.

Posted December 29, 2013 6:02 pm 


Q

can’t see*

Posted December 29, 2013 6:02 pm 


one hit u out

mayweather would destroy pacquiao i can see why you people think manny can do anything to floyd pacman will get schooled by money all night

Posted December 29, 2013 5:52 pm 



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