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Dinamita 313

Marquez will go down as one of mexicos and boxing greatest fighters. And for the people saying it was a lucky punch I was wondering was the knockdown in the 3rd round a lucky punch too? Lol jajajaja

Posted January 15, 2014 4:08 am 


Anonymous

Demonyo , but he likes to drink piss

Posted January 14, 2014 7:33 pm 


Boxtradamus

Back to MY point on THIS article….GOOD on Marquez for not wanting to face a “name”!!! Its SO REFRESHING to see that! He only wants to face CHAMPS and I APPLAUD him on that!!!

Posted January 14, 2014 6:39 pm 


Boxtradamus

And go get you some reading SKILLS. I never made any comments about Floyd being “a” Lineal CHAMP. I said that he is THE Lineal CHAMP which dates back to THE Original Welterweight CHAMP Duffy. No one right now can match it in the Welterweight Division. And you bringing another BOAT LOAD of rhetoric won’t change it.

Posted January 14, 2014 6:36 pm 


Boxtradamus

Sorry Halfbrainedalgo. All the rhetoric in the World cannot change the FACTS. SO you can talk until you’re BLUE in the FACE. ….. After your last gasp has dissipated the FACT remains that Floyd is THE Lineal Welterweight CHAMP. Nothing you type here can change it….and that is a distinct level above NON Lineal CHAMPS such as Bradley which is MY original point.. Not only am I the GREATEST Fight Prophet but since Bert Sugar passed I’m the GREATEST Historian TOO!!!

Posted January 14, 2014 6:30 pm 


Hidalgo

Boxtra$$wipe, I will make a concession to you. After reading your comments a second time about Mayweather’s lineage as a lineal champ, I agree with you–Yes, the line of lineal champs began with Duffy. But the rest of what I said is accurate.

Posted January 14, 2014 1:59 pm 


Hidalgo

Correction: Bradley is in fact a lineal champion. He’s just not recognized as THE “lineal champion.”

Posted January 14, 2014 11:45 am 


Hidalgo

Part III:

Boxingscene also maintains a lineal championship list and it disagrees with both The Ring and CBZ’s procedures for picking a lineal champ. Even so, Boxingscene shows Mayweather’s heritage for lineal welterweight champ the same as CBZ does.

AGAIN: Boxingscene does NOT trace Mayweather’s lineal championship reign back to Duffy. In fact, his current title ownership goes back only to 2010.

Presently, Mayweather holds only one official, sanctioned welterweight title. Bradley, Maidana, and Porter each own one of the three remaining titles.

Bradley is in fact a lineal champion.

Posted January 14, 2014 11:38 am 


Hidalgo

Part II:

Another entity who has established and maintained a “credible” lineal champ record is CBZ, and interestingly CBZ finds much fault with The Ring’s methods for choosing lineal champs.

Presently, CBZ (Cyber Boxing Zone) who has been maintaining its own list of lineal champs since 1994 (the year CBZ first published it’s lineal championship lists), lists the welterweight lineal champs from 2006 to present as follows:

Floyd Mayweather Jr. (2006-2008: Retired from weight class)
“Sugar” Shane Mosley (2009-2010)
Floyd Mayweather Jr. (2010-Present)

CBZ does NOT show Mayweather as being lineal champ before 2006, not all the way back to Duffy in the late 19th century.

Posted January 14, 2014 11:25 am 


Hidalgo

Let me help you Boxtra$$wipe.

Part I:

Mayweather was the lineal welterweight champ from June 2000 to June 2008. There were six previous champions in the lineage that Floyd became heir to: Baldomir, Judah, Spinks, Mayorga, Forrest, and Mosley. DLH and Mosley fought for a VACANT world title, so Mayweather’s lineal championship began with Mosley. It ended when Mayweather VACATED his welterweight title in 2008.

Floyd then regained his WBC welterweight title when he fought Ortiz in 2011 and he successfully defended it against Guerrero last year. Since there were other champions between the time Floyd vacated his title and won it back, Floyd’s lineal championship ended at the beginning of that period. In reality, at least.

Apparently, you recognize Mayweather’s lineal championship based on The Ring’s ratings and criteria. Between 2002 and 2012 The Rings rules for winning a lineal champion title were:

1. Defeat the reigning champion.
2. Win a box-off between The Ring’s number-one and number-two rated contenders.
3. If the Nos. 1 and 2 contenders choose not to fight one another and either of them fights No. 3, No. 4 or No. 5, the winner may be awarded THE RING belt.

But the rules were changed significantly in 2012 (after The Ring was acquired by GBP) so Floyd being designated as a lineal champ now means he’s a holdover from the old rules, because the new rules would definitely disqualify him from being lineal champ. The new rules state a lineal champion loses his title when he retires, or doesn’t fight within an 18 month period. They also state that a lineal champ can lose his title if he is found to have used banned substances.

Floyd took a “vacation” from Dec. 2007 to Sept. 2009. That’s 21 months without fighting. There’s also rumor that his “A” sample failed on three separate occasions for three separate fight since the period of time before and after the new lineal champ rules were in place.

Posted January 14, 2014 11:15 am 


Hidalgo

“Floyds lineage goes all the way back to Sugar Ray Robinson and even before him. Floyd’s lineage dates back to Paddy Duffy. The FIRST Welterweight CHAMP back in 1888…”

Please elaborate on this, Boxtra$$wipe. Back it up with facts, not just blowhard.

Posted January 14, 2014 9:35 am 


Boxtradamus

Halfbrainedalgo says…”I believe Timothy Bradley is also a “lineal” champion”-And thats why believing is LESSER than knowing. Let ME educate YOU on the Sport of Boxing since you obviously need it.

There is no such thing as “a” lineal CHAMP. You’re either “THE” Lineal CHAMP or you’re NOT. Boxing started out with a single CHAMP per division and THAT is where the lineage begins and dates back to. Floyd is THE Lineal Welterweight CHAMP. Bradley is no factor in that. Floyds lineage goes all the way back to Sugar Ray Robinson and even before him. Floyd’s lineage dates back to Paddy Duffy. The FIRST Welterweight CHAMP back in 1888….BOOM!! You just learned more about Boxing and I am HAPPY to be the one who TAUGHT you. Now I know that you’ve been taught WELL. You’re WELCOME.

Posted January 14, 2014 12:53 am 


te tumbo

I long for the day when this eternal crybaby hang it up for good. I despise being subjected to his effeminate whining about being “robbed.”

Let him rot on his PED-induced lucky punch and revel on that, if it helps his ego and his paisas.

Posted January 14, 2014 12:42 am 


Floyd Xylocaine Mayweather

Hidalgo
Peej, you know I’m going to argue with you every single time you call a champion a titlist and Mayweather the “champion.”

As I already said in another thread, Mayweather currently holds only two of the five available titles in the welterweight division.The three other titles are held by three different fighters.

And, as I’ve already pointed out to you several times in the past, each championship belt says “Champion” on it. It does not say “titlist.”

Floyd, Timothy, Marcos, and Shawn are all champions. The WBA does not recognize Floyd as its champion. The WBO does not recognize Floyd as its champion. The IBF does not recognize Floyd as its champion. No matter how you attempt to split hairs, all of those fighters are champions–not just Floyd.

Now, you and others may choose to recognize Mayweather as the one and only true welterweight champion but if Floyd was fighting for any belts other than the WBC and The Ring which he already owns, he would be the “Challenger” in those fights. Not the champion for those respective sanctioning bodies.

You are ripping the other champions off by labeling them as “just titlists.” If you are so bent on Floyd being the “champion” of champions, email or tweet him or talk to him in person and tell him you want him to unify all the belts in the welterweight division in order that he may become the “Undisupted Welterweight Champion of the World.” Then your wish will come true.

……………………………………………………………………………………….

cool.

Posted January 14, 2014 12:14 am 


Floyd Xylocaine Mayweather

Anonymous
Who cares what this whiner wants?

………………………………………………………………………………………

LOL

Posted January 13, 2014 11:51 pm 


Hidalgo

BTW Boxtra$$wipe, I believe Timothy Bradley is also a “lineal” champion:

Bradley beat Pacquiao who beat Cotto who beat Jennings for the WBO welterweight title. Jennings and Cotto fought for the vacant WBO welterweight title.

Posted January 13, 2014 11:24 pm 


nognog

MARQYUEZ DIDNOT AGREE TO VADA TESTING ,WHY WOULD BRADLEY FIGHT THIS LOSSER AGAIN

Posted January 13, 2014 7:53 pm 


Ko Nation

Marquez is a certified crybaby who I sincerely hope gets his face shoe shined even more convincingly by Bradley. Cmon Desert storm give us an early Thanksgiving gift.

Posted January 13, 2014 6:30 pm 


Ko Nation

Hey, Anonymous, I gotta say that was a pretty cool write up you posted about Pacquiao. A guy can only take so much abuse from a professional woman beating punk and his pompom girl fanatics over twitter and the forums. Thumbs up for Manny and nice stuff from you man. Peace out.

Posted January 13, 2014 6:27 pm 


Hidalgo

BTW Boxtra$$wipe. The Ring’s Lineal Champion ratings are not “official.” There is no box-off for a “lineal” title. Floyd earned it by beating successive champions.

Posted January 13, 2014 5:42 pm 


Hidalgo

“Floyd is the Official lineal CHAMP at Welter. That is a distinct level above NON lineal CHAMPS.”

What do you mean by “official” Boxtra$$wipe? Offical according to who?

Posted January 13, 2014 5:40 pm 


Boxtradamus

Which is why he wants to face a CHAMPION. SO thats a NO to Provodnikov, Alvarado, and Pacquiao. GOOD for HIM!

Posted January 13, 2014 5:34 pm 


Hidalgo

“GOOD to see that Marquez isn’t interested in facing NON Championship Fighters.”

Marquez is a non-champion as well.

Posted January 13, 2014 5:22 pm 


Boxtradamus

CORRECTION. ..ONLY man ALIVE to knock Pacquiao out in the 2000’s!!! WOW!!!

Posted January 13, 2014 4:39 pm 


Boxtradamus

Long LIVE the GREAT Juan Manuel Marquez!!!! The ONLY man ALIVE to knock Pacquiao out on the 2000’s. WOW!!!

Posted January 13, 2014 4:38 pm 


Boxtradamus

Its REFRESHING to see Marquez who is a TRUE throwback Fighter who is more concerned with WINNING the Championship rather than facing a “name”. Ahhhhhh SO REFRESHING. Sorry Pac. Go get you a WW title and then Marquez might consider facing you. GOOD to see that Marquez isn’t interested in facing NON Championship Fighters.

Posted January 13, 2014 4:33 pm 


Anonymous

Manny Pacquiao rattled the boxing world with a few comments directed at Floyd Mayweather. They landed harder than the left hand that dropped Ricky Hatton. Many fans continue to underestimate Manny Pacquiao. He is a a respectful, warm and caring person, but when another boxer continues to disrespect Manny over and over, Manny has a limit. He unleashed a verbal assault that shocked everyone. Fans all over the boxing world opened up their computers and hit the social websites voicing their approval. The quite fighter that Manny Pacquiao is outside the ring came out with one word. The word that Floyd carries on his forehead is branded for good until he fights Manny Pacquiao. Manny Pacquiao has fire in his veins. One must understand where he comes from and what life’s experiences have instilled inside of him. Manny started his professional boxing career at the age of 16. He left his birth place of General Santos City to Manila at age 14. He lived on the streets, under bridges and earned $2 for back alley fights he engaged in in order to survive an bring money to his mother. Manny comes from a third world country where poverty is a way of life. Manny has known a poverty and hopelessness that the ordinary person will never experience. These experiences change the way life is looked at. Fear has no grasp on a man that knows poverty. Adding to Manny’s tough life and horrible memories is the incident involving his own father. Pacquiao’s father left the family while Manny was still in early childhood. He returned one day long enough to eat Manny’s dog then vanished. As his life continued in Manila, Manny sold bread and doughnuts on the streets. He had to do what it took in order to help his mother. Manny Pacquiao has come a long way. A life he could only dream of came to reality because of boxing. Manny had no education, no great boxing trainers, no amateur boxing experience. Basically he was on his own. In the beginning he was doubted by his own country, friends and family. He never quit. He never gave up. And today, he is considered one of the greatest fighters of all time. He has made a bunch of money, has all the fame he needs, and is still the same person he’s always been. He has had his tough times losing to Marquez and going through his tax situation. Still, he has no fear. He hears Floyd Mayweather taunting him and trying to ridicule him. Manny finally says enough. Floyd Mayweather you are a coward. Come and fight me. Mayweather hasn’t been heard from since. No one should underestimate a man that has lived a life like Manny Pacquiao. This is a special kind of man that has no fear. Life beat him up enough as a child, now he wants to fight. Floyd, make the fight. Manny is the best.

Posted January 13, 2014 3:21 pm 


Mag

Is Marquez under contract with Top Rank? I don’t think he is…. He should try to fight someone at Golden Boy. There are a lot of good matchups for him over there. I’d like to see him against a Garcia or Porter.. Even Broner.

Posted January 13, 2014 2:46 pm 


Anonymous

Really? Thanks for the heads up

Posted January 13, 2014 12:21 pm 


Demonyo

Te Tumbong is obviously a Pac hater. Whenever Pac is mentioned he always takes the opposite stance just for the sake of it. No credibility whatsoever

Posted January 13, 2014 12:19 pm 


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Posted January 13, 2014 11:40 am 


Boxtradamus

CORRECTION….endorsed HIM and not Wlad.

Posted January 13, 2014 3:25 am 


Boxtradamus

“Floyd has no official title or belt that puts him at some distinct championship level above them.”-FALSE. Floyd is the Official lineal CHAMP at Welter. That is a distinct level above NON lineal CHAMPS. Thats why Wlad was LESSER than Vitali. Vitali was the lineal CHAMP thats why Tyson, Foreman, Lewis, Ali, Frazier, and other lineal HW CHAMPS endosed HIM and not Wlad.

Posted January 13, 2014 3:24 am 


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Posted January 13, 2014 1:26 am 


james

So the supposed PED’s heredia gave Marquez only made him more powerful no speed no fresh legs to match Bradley’s movement? Dumb@ss pactards

Posted January 13, 2014 1:04 am 


Hidalgo

“He somehow equates Bradley, Maidana and Shawn on the same level as Floyd Mayweather?”

Depends on what you mean by “same level,” HHLondon. I said they were all champions and they are. I did not say any of them was a better champion than Floyd is. Presently, Floyd has no official title or belt that puts him at some distinct championship level above them. Floyd has two belts, the other three have one belt each. But no matter how you slice it they are all champions. Ask them yourself if you insist on disagreeing.

Posted January 12, 2014 11:55 pm 


HHLondon

Hidalgo’s post at: Posted January 12, 2014 4:19 pm

He somehow equates Bradley, Maidana and Shawn on the same level as Floyd Mayweather?

Of course the other organizations do not recognize other organisations champs in their rankings ..

However … anyone who has ever observed this sport, knows that Floyd is at the other end of the spectrum when it comes “champs” and “titlists”.

One may even consider the concept of an elite fighter transcending even those “labels”.

Any of those three WW “champs” or “titlists” would be handed a sound ass whooping even from an old Floyd!

Not even in the same sentence soppy bollocks!

Posted January 12, 2014 11:08 pm 


HHLondon

HaHa … they thought Pacquiao was dead!

JMM walked him onto the shot Floyd would have delivered in any fight they ever had the balls to put him in.

They then stuck Pacquiao in with a big fat 135lb heavy bag in Rios and now they’re trying to rebuild Pacquiao ….

447000 PPV buys is WORSE than UFC and Dana can muster ….

Floyd to Larry post fight Mosley “if Manny Pacquiao take the blood and urine test, then we make the fight happen for all the fans”.

That was 3 years ago and Manny fighting chumps instead!

Posted January 12, 2014 10:53 pm 


John

I guess there are mainly PAC Man fans here . Still bitter over that ass kicking Juan gave him .

Posted January 12, 2014 10:31 pm 


Anonymous

PEEJ says the piss drinker is a counter puncher. Wow. Thanks for enlightening us you moron.

Posted January 12, 2014 10:14 pm 


Anonymous

Hec Dog is on the mark with his post. Marquez has no class compared to the great Pinoy champion.

Posted January 12, 2014 10:03 pm 


Anonymous

It’s a Mexican thang, amigo

Posted January 12, 2014 10:00 pm 


Anonymous

JMM is a legend in his own mind.

Posted January 12, 2014 9:38 pm 


Anonymous

Who cares what this whiner wants?

Posted January 12, 2014 9:36 pm 


Anonymous

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Posted January 12, 2014 9:33 pm 


royjoneslastfight

Piss- Quez !!!

Posted January 12, 2014 8:55 pm 


Anonymous

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Posted January 12, 2014 8:54 pm 


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Posted January 12, 2014 8:52 pm 


Rockyx2

In a Mexican interview, Marquez also mentioned Maidana .
*I know the promotional issues, but this would be a great fight, worthy of PPV more then Canelo vs Angullo

Posted January 12, 2014 8:40 pm 


Auzbox

Can’t believe he thinks he gets a say after a loss, hope if it is Bradley he whoops the old man

Posted January 12, 2014 6:48 pm 


Haimat

The blueprint is out on Marquez and with all those PEDs in that old body it’s plain stupid to exchange with him.
Bradley was ridiculously disciplined and beat the old cheater convincingly and he’ll do it again if Marquez gets the fight.

Posted January 12, 2014 5:57 pm 


Haimat

The Facts !, I understand your frustration, great question. “Lucky” is a bad word. What I’m saying is that Pacman, just like Bradley, Floyd, Garcia or any skilled fast fighter with great footwork could easily cruise to a decision win over Marquez.
Bradley stuck to his jab, quick combos and moved his feet continuously throughout the fight. He won almost every round on my card. Floyd did the same thing. Pacquaio was doing the same thing but made the mistake of going for the kill which made Marquez’s day.
I agree 100% that Marquez knew exactly what he was doing. He timed Manny recklessly going for the kill, tasting blood and knocked him TFO. Pac could have played it safe and outland Marquez 2 to 1 and win a decision but he chose not to which got him knocked out.

Posted January 12, 2014 5:50 pm 


PEEJ

You do realize that you can’t really hold on to all the belts for very long because they will strip you and make you choose one belt. At least that is what the WBC does. Dude the interim belts say champion on them, the NABO belt says champion on them. Who cares. Floyd is the Lineal Champion. Plain and simple. You can argue all you want about it, the fact still remains that Floyd is the Lineal champ. Until he gets beat he will remain that way.

Posted January 12, 2014 4:48 pm 


Bob Arum

I’ll try and make the fight but I don’t see JMM doing any better against Bradley.

Posted January 12, 2014 4:45 pm 


Gman

Marquez always crys for rematches, he should get the job done 1st time.

Posted January 12, 2014 4:36 pm 


Tomato Can

Marquez has been a top pound for pound fighter for many years now. He’s one of the best in the sport. So ordinarily I’d say he should try of a rematch with anyone who beats him, no matter the fashion. However, he’s old at this point, and has nothing left to prove in the sport. Therefore he should find a way to be content with his career, and retire. I doubt he will though.

Posted January 12, 2014 4:26 pm 


PEEJ

The contracts only give the option if they choose to add it in before the contracts are signed. Of course if you have a huge fan base then they could possibly give the option that if it’s a close fight then there would be a rematch. Which if that is the case the champ would agree since there is a good amount of money in it

Posted January 12, 2014 4:20 pm 


Hidalgo

Peej, you know I’m going to argue with you every single time you call a champion a titlist and Mayweather the “champion.”

As I already said in another thread, Mayweather currently holds only two of the five available titles in the welterweight division.The three other titles are held by three different fighters.

And, as I’ve already pointed out to you several times in the past, each championship belt says “Champion” on it. It does not say “titlist.”

Floyd, Timothy, Marcos, and Shawn are all champions. The WBA does not recognize Floyd as its champion. The WBO does not recognize Floyd as its champion. The IBF does not recognize Floyd as its champion. No matter how you attempt to split hairs, all of those fighters are champions–not just Floyd.

Now, you and others may choose to recognize Mayweather as the one and only true welterweight champion but if Floyd was fighting for any belts other than the WBC and The Ring which he already owns, he would be the “Challenger” in those fights. Not the champion for those respective sanctioning bodies.

You are ripping the other champions off by labeling them as “just titlists.” If you are so bent on Floyd being the “champion” of champions, email or tweet him or talk to him in person and tell him you want him to unify all the belts in the welterweight division in order that he may become the “Undisupted Welterweight Champion of the World.” Then your wish will come true.

Posted January 12, 2014 4:19 pm 


Hidalgo

Generally, the champion decides whether or not he will fight a rematch. To my knowledge fight contracts generally give the champion the right to a rematch if he loses his title to a challenger. Marquez was not a champion and did not hold any welterweight titles when he fought Bradley.

Tim owes him nothing unless it was stipulated in their contract. Otherwise, maybe Marquez should retire. For good. I don’t know about anyone else, but I am not interested in a four-fight series between Bradley and Marquez especially because every time that Marquez loses or draws, he’ll claim he got robbed. I’m not even interested in a rematch between them because if Marquez gets anything less than a win, he’ll claim he got robbed. I mean, every time Marquez does this he insults his opponent and the judges. How many times do we have to hear him whine?

If Marquez really wants to continue fighting right now he should consider opponents other than Bradley. Otherwise, he should hang up the gloves and be content that he finally beat Manny Pacquiao.

Posted January 12, 2014 4:10 pm 


Old Coot

Manny needs to prove Bradley robbed him… Then Floyd need to prove he deserves his title against Manny! PERIOD!!

Posted January 12, 2014 4:10 pm 


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Posted January 12, 2014 4:00 pm 


PEEJ

So in other words Tim Bradley is a titlest. Floyd is the champion. There can only be one champion. Floyd is that at the moment.

Posted January 12, 2014 3:51 pm 


PEEJ

Marquez lost plain and simple. He can cry all he wants over it but its over. No need to revisit that fight again. Bradley just needs to move on. The only reason Arum would make this fight again is just to stick it to Marquez because he knows he will lose again and there really is no money in it. This is an HBO championship fight. This is no PPV fight. The only problem is Arum really has no welters in his stable that can pull in good PPV numbers. Which means Bradley is gonna be upset with his next payday no matter who it is against.

Posted January 12, 2014 3:50 pm 


Hidalgo

“No Pac was not the champion when he lost to Bradley. I think he had a title but Floyd has been the champion at 147″

Timothy Bradley won the WBO Welterweight Championship belt from Manny Pacquiao. Manny was the WBO champion now Timothy is the WBO champion.

Posted January 12, 2014 3:50 pm 


Old Coot

@ JP: LMFAO! YUP! That’s ole sour grapes “Dinamita”, to a tee!!

Posted January 12, 2014 3:44 pm 


JP

Marquez when he wins: “Nah nah, I win you lose, I’m better, BYE.”

Marquez when he loses: “WAHHHH NO WAY I WON! REMATCH WAHHHH!”

…hypocrite crybaby b*tch.

Posted January 12, 2014 3:19 pm 


Old Coot

te tumbo: I tend to agree for once… It’s a tie in my view… Manny won the first two and Marquez the last two. Although Manny was dominating the last fight better than the other three combined… To include the round he got KO’d in… But a KO is a KO!

Posted January 12, 2014 3:14 pm 


Hec Dog

Thurmal Underwear my friend, I’m not mad in the least about Ped Man getting a win over Manny. Ped Man Marquez is such a whiner and complainer and never stops crying. He has ruined his reputation. He was actually a decent fighter during his early years. I met him and Nacho, and they were very nice people. Once he got desperate and did whatever it would take to beat Manny (drink his urine), and then hired Angel Hereida (PED SUPPLIER TO USA OLYMPIC TRACK AND FIELD TEAM), Ped Man Marquez went to pieces. His rage during his latest workouts with Angel Hereida, leading up to the Bradley fight, showed the man losing it. He’s only embarrassing himself every time he says dumb thins like he will only fight Bradley. He will go down as the biggest cry baby in boxing history. Ped Man Marquez should take a page from Manny Pacquao and show class, respect, humility, kindness and love to all. Manny is the best.

Posted January 12, 2014 3:12 pm 


Old Coot

LOL!! Marquez thinks Bradley is somehow going to start fighting him toe-to-toe like Manny does… LOL! Give it up Juan. It will be the same outcome… Your feet are simply too slow for anyone who doesn’t wanna get hit and who has the feet to get outta the way of your counters.

Posted January 12, 2014 3:11 pm 


te tumbo

i don’t ever want to watch Marquez v. Pacquiao* again. it’s impossible to imagine a more decisive or convincing win for Marquez. it was a rivalry-ender and a fifth bout would feel like an old-timer’s bout between two fighters beyond their respective primes, optimal fghting weights, and ability to seriously alter the rankings. at which point, who really cares what either Marquez or Pacquiao* decide to do?

Posted January 12, 2014 3:09 pm 


te tumbo

“If Marquez is hung up on winning a 5th world title then he at least should try and face the best champion rather than picking up paper titles off of secondary champions”(?). isn’t that what Pacquiao* did at lightweight and jr. middle? unlike Marquez, who unified at lightweight before moving up to challenge Mayweather who he quickly learned was no hype-job or steppingstone to Manny*. meanwhile, Bradley is only second to Mayweather in terms of welter credibility. he’s undefeated and owns official wins over Pacquiao*, Provodknikov, and Marquez. who cares if some were less convincing than others. he remains undefeated. Marquez is doing the right thing by insisting on a rematch v. Bradley or retiring. he’s in the gravy stage of his career and only a “W” v. Bradley or Garcia could possibly make him a relevant welter. otherwise, he’s increasingly being overtaken by the passage of time and the end of his era in boxing.

Posted January 12, 2014 3:05 pm 


Fight Aficionado

Get over it Marquez. Nobody else wants to see that fight again.

Posted January 12, 2014 2:41 pm 


PEEJ

You should write that down, plant that in your memory. That is what Marquez is. He didn’t land any lucky punch against Pac. He had been landing that punch for 3 fights already. Marquez didn’t look old when he fought Pac the 3rd time only to be robbed by the judges. So I guess the knockdown in the 2nd round 2 was lucky also. So Pac was getting lucky through out the fight. Sorry bro, there are no lucky punches. He ment to throw the punch, he ment to land the punch and before the fight he said he was going for the knock out. He wasn’t getting whooped the whole fight. It only went 6 rounds and Pac had already been knocked down earlier in the fight. And it is obvious Pac was not the better fighter between the 2 or else they wouldn’t of fought 4 times.

Posted January 12, 2014 2:30 pm 


The Facts !

To Haimat .. the more you post your opinions the more stupid we find out you are . How in the hell can you call some one that throws a punch be call a lucky punch . especially when that fighter practices throwing that punch in the gym for years . Marquez knew exactly when to throw the punch and with what force . It’s like a baseball player throwing a strike ,how can you call that lucky when he practices throwing that baseball a hundred times a day .

Posted January 12, 2014 2:20 pm 


Martin

Marquez should have done what he promised his wife he’d do and retire after the last Pacquiao fight. I mean, what a punch to end a great career on! Sadly, like so many others, he just didn’t know how to quit when he was ahead.

Posted January 12, 2014 2:20 pm 


Haimat

Thurman is the real deal. Nothing like Jeff La… Broner.

Posted January 12, 2014 2:19 pm 


Haimat

PEEJ, so Marquez is a counter puncher. Thanks for the information. I’ll write it down and put it on the wall.
If landing a lucky punch is the only way to win, that means that you’re losing the fight. The guy in the other corner is the better fighter. Marquez pulled the lucky punch card against a reckless Pacman. Bradley fought disciplined and exposed the old man that Marquez is. Chris John and Floyd Mayweather fought disciplined and beat him much the same way.
What’s new the last couple of years is Angel Heredia who boosted this old savvy veteran fighter into an aggressive dude with a punch from hell. I don’t think Pac nor Roach quite understood that Heredia transformed Marquez into a beast with a punch he hasn’t shown in 20 years.

Posted January 12, 2014 2:18 pm 


no mercy

Manny is ducking Bradly Thurman can bang but he throws wide leaving himself exposed to counters…

Posted January 12, 2014 2:05 pm 


PEEJ

I have no doubt that Thurman will be something serious but right now he is still learning. Bradley would be too seasoned in my opinion. Thurman needs another 2 or so fights. He has definitely improved and has shown he has boxing ability but he still squares himself up to much and his boxing ability isn’t the best.

Posted January 12, 2014 2:04 pm 


shaolinwarriormark

thurman will beat bradley cause he is an all around fighter.bradley only knows hit and run and thurman will bust him up on the inside.

Posted January 12, 2014 1:59 pm 


shaolinwarriormark

This fight happens pacman gets screwed cause pac bradley2 will now never happen.

Posted January 12, 2014 1:57 pm 


PEEJ

All this big lucky punch stuff is ridiculous. If you mean to throw a punch it is not luck. Plain and simple. He really doesn’t have the style to beat Bradley because Bradley is able to adjust. Marquez doesn’t really adjust. He is a counter puncher, he is not a stalk and destroy fighter.

Posted January 12, 2014 1:17 pm 


PEEJ

No Pac was not the champion when he lost to Bradley. I think he had a title but Floyd has been the champion at 147

Posted January 12, 2014 1:16 pm 


Jimb0

Still fighting?

Posted January 12, 2014 1:15 pm 


Tomato Can

Marquez should be content with his career and hang up the gloves.

Posted January 12, 2014 1:06 pm 


Haimat

Marquez’s only shot against Bradley or any skilled faster fighter is a big lucky punch. He got throughly outboxed last time. All the special help from Heredia could not help since Bradley boxed smart and chose not to engage. Pac, Danny Garcia, would beat him easily if they just boxed.

Posted January 12, 2014 1:01 pm 


Hidalgo

“You can also make a strong argument that WBA interim welterweight champion Keith Thurman would beat Bradley as well, if the fight were to ever happen.”

Don’t think so.

Posted January 12, 2014 1:00 pm 


Jackholer

Well said JAVIELITO!

Posted January 12, 2014 12:58 pm 


Hidalgo

I’d like to see Bradley not give Marquez a rematch. All Marquez does is whine every time he loses. Bradley has the option to grant Marquez the rematch. I hope the answer is “no” and stays that way.

Posted January 12, 2014 12:57 pm 


moe

Wasn’t Manny Paquiao considered the champion when he fought Bradley? if so why isn’t Bradley being considered the champ instead of Mayweather. Marquez is a baby but he is a skilled fighter. I’d watch him lose to Bradley again, as long as it’s not PPV.

Posted January 12, 2014 12:53 pm 


Danny Washington

I keep saying it. Bradley deserves the shot at Mayweather, but i think we all know he will fight Khan. So i think/hope we’ll see:

Bradley V Pacman
Brook Vs Porter
Thurman/Broner V Maidana

Marquez should fight garcia or matthysse at 140

Posted January 12, 2014 12:48 pm 


The oracle of Delphi

Floyd outsized Marquez by a lot & cheated coming in 2 pounds above the contracted weight limit. He was the wrong style for Marquez. Bradley is short, he could handle him the second time, although Msrquez is slowing down. If he wouldn’t have been for the KO, who would have clearly list down the stretch to Pac in the fourth fight.

Posted January 12, 2014 12:27 pm 


PEEJ

The one thing that you have to say about Marquez is he sure wants to avenge the loss. It took him 3 times to beat Pac though he was robbed the 3rd time so he KOd him the 4th time. And now he wants to beat Bradley whom beat him. Never talked about a Floyd rematch though or fighting Chris John again.

Posted January 12, 2014 12:21 pm 


Dave

I think he’s been drinking his piss again.

Posted January 12, 2014 12:18 pm 


BUSTAJAY

This is too funny.
The Mexican warrior puts PAC to sleep then says he has no desire to fight him again, not that I would watch, but now he wants to restore his one sided butt kicking from Timmy. Just hang EM up champ….time to exit

Posted January 12, 2014 12:03 pm 


PEEJ

Bradley is a titlest, he is not a paper champion. Floyd is the champion. Anybody else with a belt is just a titlest.

Posted January 12, 2014 11:49 am 


Thurmal Underwear

Hecdog

Will someone please slap Ped Man Marquez a few times. The man is the biggest whining, crying, baby in the history of all sports. Everyone is tired of him. Please go away and retire. Now he’s obsessed with Bradley as he was with Manny Pacquiao. Ped Man Marquez is the worst sports man ever. This guy needs to see a psychiatrist ASAP! Retire and go away. You lost, live with it. I magine a rematch that somehow Ped Man wins. Then he’ll go around saying “I won’t give him a rematch because I like this feeling.” What a joke.

^hector your just mad cuz he put your boy to bed EARLYYYYYY!

Posted January 12, 2014 11:48 am 


Freddie Roach Ate My Hamster

The first fight was dull enough, don’t make us sit through that again! JMM always looks better against offensive boxers & so does Bradley. Both are dull as dishwater against counter punchers or defensive boxers. Manny vs either is preferable, as is Prov vs either of them!

Posted January 12, 2014 11:46 am 


Hecdog

Will someone please slap Ped Man Marquez a few times. The man is the biggest whining, crying, baby in the history of all sports. Everyone is tired of him. Please go away and retire. Now he’s obsessed with Bradley as he was with Manny Pacquiao. Ped Man Marquez is the worst sports man ever. This guy needs to see a psychiatrist ASAP! Retire and go away. You lost, live with it. I magine a rematch that somehow Ped Man wins. Then he’ll go around saying “I won’t give him a rematch because I like this feeling.” What a joke.

Posted January 12, 2014 11:39 am 


FINSTER

Marquez is a great fighter, BUT he is also delusional! He has NEVER lost a fight in his mind! If he wants a rematch with Bradley who beat him without a shadow of a doubt, then he needs to rematch PAq who gave him 3 rematches and was on the verge of taken his top off in the last fight! Marquez knows that he landed the lottery punch against PAq, and ran from a rematch like he stole something! Marquez simply needs to go home as he has had a great career!

Posted January 12, 2014 11:30 am 


Papo

I don’t consider Bradley’s, an undefeated champion, a paper champion just because, according to this article, Floyd is a lot better than Bradley. He’s not just undefeated, but has what it takes to beat any fighter at 147, including Pac if the rematch is made. Floyd would beat him, but it wouldn’t be a walk in the Park for Floyd.

As for Thurman beating Bradley, I doubt it. It’ll be a close fight for sure but Bradley has fought better competition than Thurman. Beating Soto Karas doesn’t qualify Thurman as better than Bradley.

Anyway, Marquez doesn’t deserve a Bradley rematch. First, Bradley clearly won the fight. Second Marquez was the challenger, didn’t win and it would be up to Bradley if he wants to give him another chance. Thirdly, the end result would be the same or worst…he may get KO.

Posted January 12, 2014 11:28 am 


PEEJ

There really is no need for a Marquez rematch. Bradley beat Marquez, there is no controversy. AS for the Pac fight, well there is controversy. The one thing Bradley needs to realize that even though he got the nod in the last fight, he is not the draw. The draw makes more money. Bradley is the B side of this fight. He needs to also accept that there is not as much money in this fight as there was in the 2nd fight. So he should also expect to make closer to the amount of money he made in the first fight. That is just the economics of the situation. If not, then move on.

Posted January 12, 2014 11:19 am 


Dan Adams

Marquez and Pacquiao both want Bradley rematches. If I’m Bradley, I give the rematch to Pacquiao because he is a gentleman and, quite simply, Marquez is not. What Marquez should do is give a rematch to Pacquiao as Manny gave Juan Manuel four chances; but no, now that Marquez has won (great knockout, of course, but Marquez knows he was lucky) he says he’s suddenly done with Pacquiao. Poor sportsmanship out of Marquez, but this is nothing new: have you ever heard the guy give anything but excuses when he loses?

Posted January 12, 2014 10:33 am 


Ice Cold

No one wants providnikov the man is a savage

Posted January 12, 2014 10:18 am 


Thurmal Underwear

Bradley’s legs are too much. JMM has no speed to keep up w/ him. It’s a bad match up. The same thing will happen. And he lost the 1st time – there’s no question about it.

Posted January 12, 2014 10:12 am 


Demonyo

Marquez is a drama queen, brat, prima donna. He has not shown anything brilliant to dictate things around. His counter-punching ability shines only against dumb and reckless warriors but never against brilliant boxers who can move well. He does not deserve any special treatment. Boxing world should turn its back on him. Waste of time.

Posted January 12, 2014 9:54 am 


largo

Tim boxed his ears off & he’d do it again; Marquez has no chance against Bradley.

Posted January 12, 2014 9:34 am 


Auzbox

Tims better than Thurman just not the power

Posted January 12, 2014 7:47 am 


third world

i’m not understanding marquez on this one. i’m a huge marquez supporter,but power wasn’t and isn’t the problem.it’s speed,combinations,output,and feints that he needs to work on.i think after k.o.ing manny,he is loading up instead of out boxing his opponent. he is not a one punch k.o. artist,especially at 147. when you look only for the k.o. it will not come against a boxer. when you put your punches together and set them up with feints the k.o. will come. he looked a little slow last time out. the man is 40,he’s had a great career. he best stay away from the thurmans and if he can’t get tim,he should call it a day.

Posted January 12, 2014 7:33 am 


Pugfan

Marquez was lucky to be given a split decision. it should have been scored a unanimous decision for Bradley. I would also pick Bradley in a rematch.

Posted January 12, 2014 7:06 am 


Auzbox

His last fight he fought a guy with 8 losses. There is only one threat to mayweather and it ain’t keithy, Marquez should fight Keith he beats him easy

Posted January 12, 2014 6:59 am 


Auzbox

Who has he beat?

Posted January 12, 2014 6:56 am 


2nd2nunn

Dude, Thurman is probably the biggest threat out there for MAYWEATHER, nevermind Bradley.

Posted January 12, 2014 6:54 am 


Auzbox

In no world ever does Thurman beat Bradley stupid article

Posted January 12, 2014 6:51 am 


Havoc

Yeah! Let’s do it. Boxing after dark.

Posted January 12, 2014 4:42 am 


meep

Time to retire. No one cares about you anymore Marquez

Posted January 12, 2014 3:17 am 



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