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Joseph Herron

Hidalgo,

I think if the money is there and the public really clamors for the match-up, a fight between any of the three fighters we discussed would be made.

Historically, great champions would give their friends big paydays by granting them title opportunities…I have a feeling that if the demand is there and the money is available, the fighters would adopt that mentality.

Posted January 16, 2014 12:31 pm 


Hidalgo

“If Paulie had placed a rematch clause in his contract, he would have had a rematch by now because he deserved one.”

Yeah, that’s interesting, Joseph. Paulie has never spoken of having a mandatory rematch clause in his fight contract with Broner. I wonder if GBP didn’t want to put one in or if Paulie just screwed up not making sure it was in there. Hey! There’s a question to ask Paulie next time you have him on your show.

Posted January 15, 2014 10:25 pm 


Hidalgo

“Do you really expect the Klitschko Brothers to fight each other because they’re the two best heavyweights in the world?”

No, and I never have. Besides they are brothers, not just close friends. And they promised their mother they would never fight each other. Besides that, I think it’s great that two brothers have the ability to dominate a division as they have. Certainly that’s history in the making.

But of course I know that boxing is a brutal sport and I understand the friendships that develop within it. But this is the pros and boxing today is as much about fame and fortune as it is about legacy and championships. I appreciate that Broner is close friends with Garcia and Peterson, and Mayweather for that matter. But it just so happens that all four of these guys are champions–but they won’t fight each other because their friends? That’s a lot of titles in two weight divisions. Doesn’t seem to me like that’s much of a benefit to boxing.

And don’t forget, Ward and Gatti weren’t originally friends. Their friendship resulted as a result of their respect for each other as fighters and men. They became close friends because they had so much in common and because they thought so highly of each other. I have listened to Mickey a number of times reminiscing about Arturo. It’s a tear-jerker just to hear him talk because you can feel the love he had (and has) for Arturo.

Oh well, fortunately Bradley and Pacquiao aren’t best friends. :)

Posted January 15, 2014 10:22 pm 


Joseph Herron

Rocky,

If Paulie had placed a rematch clause in his contract, he would have had a rematch by now because he deserved one.

Regarding Mike’s claim of Alex Ariza, most casual sports fans dismissed the gauze not realizing what cutmen and trainers have used it for in the past.

Google it, brother!!

Posted January 15, 2014 10:11 pm 


Rockyx2

In regards to Ariza and the end of the 11th round… Please tell Mike we live in a HD world. It was a piece of small gauze. Ariza wipes Maidana’s forehead with it right before Maidana got off the stool. Lol, blurry internet clips are what blew this up.

Posted January 15, 2014 9:32 pm 


Rockyx2

***Please, can you ask Mike Stafford this one question? Why didn’t Pauly Malanaggi get a rematch
when he lost the same exact belt to Adrien?
I am glad Chris Byrd is on, him an Al Bernstein broke down the Maidana vs Broner fight perfectly. Ask Chris if he thinks Broner could beat Keith Thurman. Also, ask him if Broner flopped with the head nudge from Maidana?

Posted January 15, 2014 9:17 pm 


Joseph Herron

Hidalgo, boxing is special and unlike any other sport in existence.

It’s not like the Manning brothers competing against each other on Monday Night Football. Boxing is brutal. Do you really expect the Klitschko Brothers to fight each other because they’re the two best heavyweights in the world?

Not everyone is like Arturo Gatti and Micky Ward, who can batter themselves senseless and enjoy a beer together afterwards.

Fighters are warriors and put their lives on the line every time they enter the ring. So if any combatant doesn’t want to fight certain fighters who they have close relationships with, I’m not going to say or write anything about it.

Posted January 15, 2014 4:09 pm 


Joseph Herron

Hidalgo: “Think about it…if a fighter doesn’t want to step in the ring with a certain opponent, who’s going to make him? No one”

What about mandatory opponents? Why do fighters almost always say “My promoter will decide who I fight next” or “I’ll leave that up to my promoter?”

That’s a fighter’s prerogative. If they want to delegate that duty or responsibility to a management group or promoter, that’s the fighter’ decision. Does he have to? No

Manny Pacquiao has enough clout within the industry to make his own decisions and form his own promotional group, but instead trusts his Hall of Fame promoter and matchmaker to act in his best interest. Does he have to? No…that’s his decision.

Does a fighter have to face his “mandatory” challenger? Absolutely not. Is Floyd going to face his mandatory challenger at 147 any time soon? No. He’s more than happy to relinquish his title rather than face Manny at this time.

Most fighters don’t realize how much power they actually possess in the sport of boxing. But if they don’t want to fight, there’s very little a promoter, manager, or sanctioning body can do.

Posted January 15, 2014 3:29 pm 


Hidalgo

Well then, two more questions for you Joseph:

1.You said: “Think about it…if a fighter doesn’t want to step in the ring with a certain opponent, who’s going to make him? No one”

What about mandatory opponents? Why do fighters almost always say “My promoter will decide who I fight next” or “I’ll leave that up to my promoter?”

2. You said: “Adrien will not choose to fight his longtime friends, Lamont Peterson or Danny Garcia.”

I understand that. But Garcia and Peterson are two of the top names in the jr. welterweight division and my money says that once Danny moves up to welter, he will continue to be a top name in that division as well. But by Broner not wanting to fight them–of course he could always change his mind–right off the bat, he’s elminiated two top challengers from his potential opponent list.

I don’t see the equity in a fighter having this kind of power. Do you? And how is that fair to boxing fans? I mean suppose Broner makes it to the top of the welterweight division and Danny Garcia is already welterweight champ?

Posted January 15, 2014 3:10 pm 


Joseph Herron

Barry is indeed a class act, isn’t he?

So is Mike.

Hunter and Stafford are two of the most knowledgeable men in the sport. That’s why I didn’t immediately dismiss Mike’s claims regarding Alex Ariza post fight like most in the media.

He doesn’t make a habit of buying into the conspiracy theory on a regular basis, and he saw something very irregular between rounds 11 and 12 in the corner of Marcos Maidana.

Barry and Mike are two of the few trainers who continue to work with amateur fighters when they really don’t have to…it’s for the love of the sport. Their dedication to boxing should serve as an example for all hungry young trainers in the industry.

Posted January 15, 2014 3:04 pm 


Joseph Herron

Thanks for listening to the show, Hidalgo.

Mike Stafford is an old school fight trainer…he’s one of the few elite level trainers that continues to cultivate kids from the amateur level into professional prizefighters.

What a lot of people don’t seem to understand about professional boxing is that the trainer works for the fighter…not the other way around.

If Adrien chooses to blow up between fights, there’s very little Mike can do about it. Broner is his own man. Like Mike stated on last night’s show, Adrien alone made the decision to force the immediate rematch with Maidana. Mike was very careful in avoiding my question of whether he thinks it’s the right move for Adrien’s career.

His answer was, “I support my fighter 100%.”

Don Chargin’s segment was very telling as well. If his fighter, Canelo Alvarez, wants to fight Alfredo Angulo and wants the kind of money that only PPV can deliver, there’s very little any promoter or manager can do about it. Canelo and Adrien currently have the clout to call their own shots…most people don’t understand that the fighter has the ultimate power in boxing.

Think about it…if a fighter doesn’t want to step in the ring with a certain opponent, who’s going to make him? No one

Most fighters aren’t at that level, but Canelo and Adrien are currently.

So what a certain trainer believes may not be reflected in one of his many fighter’s actions outside of the ring or even during the fight.

As for Adrien’s options at 135 and 140, fighting Paulie at 147 pounds was the best monetary option for Adrien at the time. If you look at the potential match-ups within 135 and 140, Welterweight is where all of the money is at currently under the Golden Boy Promotional stable.

Adrien will not choose to fight his longtime friends, Lamont Peterson or Danny Garcia. Those guys grew up together in the amateur system and consider themselves to be brothers.

His only big money options at this time are at 147 pounds. That’s the primary quandary with Adrien Broner and his current situation.

He wants the big, big money. If he was looking at his future in boxing, he would probably not go after the big money fights at 147 pounds right now. But as we’ve seen in boxing, there are no guarantees that there will be a future for any fighter when you factor in the risks of injury.

Should he go for the big money now, or risk waiting until he grows into the weight division properly?

It’s Adrien’s decision entirely, and he’s chosen to go after Maidana once again. Will it pay off for him? We’ll have to wait until April to find out, but you have to respect his courage and willingness to take calculated risks in a powerful division.

Posted January 15, 2014 2:55 pm 


Hidalgo

Joe, I take issue with a couple of things Stafford said:

First of all, Mike said he favored same-day weigh-ins. Yet, Broner has to burn off a lot of weight to fight as a jr. welter. Even more as a lightweight. So that means he’s stepping into the ring as a lot bigger fighter than when he weighed in. So, if Stafford favors same-day weigh-ins, why hasn’t he always had Broner fighting at a higher weight?

Second, Mike claims they HAD to take the fight with Maidana because no one at 135 or 140 wanted to fight Broner. Yet popular opinion was that Broner (as well as Stafford and their team, I imagine) saw Malignaggi’s title as an easy mark.

What’s your take on these two subjects?

Posted January 15, 2014 2:33 pm 


Hidalgo

I tell ya Joseph, it’s a pleasure listening to Barry Hunter. Get him on your show as much as you can.

Posted January 15, 2014 1:37 pm 


Hidalgo

Here’s a site for you, Anonymous:

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Go there now.

Posted January 15, 2014 1:03 pm 


Hidalgo

Thanks, Joseph!

Posted January 15, 2014 1:03 pm 


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Posted January 15, 2014 11:04 am 


Joseph Herron

No problem, Hidalgo!! You can click on the link provided in the press release and listen to the entire show right now!!

It was a great one…Barry, Mike, Henry, Chris, and Mr. Chargin really provided great insight into a lot of pressing topics!!

Enjoy, brother!!

Posted January 15, 2014 12:23 am 


Hidalgo

Joseph, I missed part of your show tonight. When will you be publishing the hyperlink so I can listen to it?

Posted January 15, 2014 12:18 am 


Reality

About 10 pence.

youtube.com/watch?v=YR0FHjvs_y0

Posted January 14, 2014 9:39 pm 


The Dark ages

Pacquiao will beat up Mayweather, Styles, mayweather won’t know what his happening, KO.

Posted January 14, 2014 9:11 pm 



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