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chitownfightfan

I think Wilder is coming along well. His LOC is less than stellar, but the way he’s putting guys away is awesome. I fully expected Manswell to test Wilder, but once again, DW KHTFO. Period. PPL who think Wilder is not ready for the Blevel are out of their minds. Yeah, he’ll likely take an L or 2, but does he need to be undefeated to be a world titlist. I dont think he does. He needs to go for a soft touch in the top 30, maybe Tiggy or Dimi. Gauge him against top euro level, then back to america to fight a former champ like Rahman or Briggs. I think Liakovich is looking for a fight too, but Sergei needs to string together a couple wins himself or folks are gonna write him off as a journeyman too.

Posted August 14, 2012 11:31 am 


Anonymous

Future Heavyweight Champion of the World.

Posted August 13, 2012 12:07 am 


Wilder

You don’t sound like a boxing-fan. Do you find it more fun to watch Wilder’s 24 first pro fights than Wlad’s ditto? I guess that a pro boxer is in the game partly for making money. I guess that Wlad made more money in his first 24 fights than Wilder will in his entire pro run.

With Wilder’s very fine amateur credentials there is absolutely no reason for fighting bums 4 years into your pro run. At this time he should at least has fought a couple of top 25 guys.

Calling out the Klits after beating BoxRec’s #246 Manswell is………..pathetic if I have to use a polite word.

Posted August 7, 2012 7:46 am 


Mo-Box

They’ve learned from Wlad. Young Wlad also walked through his comp, never going to distance. Till you meet someone with skill and you learn that boxing is tactical a game of chess not just walk-over – gas out with your big wild punches that miss, make agression work against yourself and get KOd in the humilating process. You may have raw talent, size, speed and brutal KO-power in both hands but if you rush you’ll get KO-d if you pick your opponents too randomly. True it’s those very losses that have made Wlad what he is today. But you see how much critizism Wlad gets because of those losses? From marketing perspective It’s better to keep that “0” as long as you can and look impressive by brutally early KOing below-top-30 tomatocan bums and your nation goes horny and raves about you bringing you fame & income while staying at low level comp (pretty much like Povetkin, who just positioned himself higher up).

Posted August 7, 2012 3:10 am 


Mustid

Also, If Wlad really were to even hear of Wilder calling him out and granted him the fight, I think Wilder would be finished after that fight. IMO- Wlad’s power, ring experience, level of competition (both with qaulity of opposition and title fights), and overall superior skill would be a career ender for Deontay. I say that because Wilder wouldn’t even see it coming because he thinks he is ready.

Posted August 7, 2012 12:29 am 


Mustid

I’ve watched a couple of Deontay’s fights so far and I have to say that the criticism is not unfair. The reason for this is that he has fought less than stellar opposition and after this last fight, (in what looked sloppy like a toughman contest) he put a clumbsy Manswell down the first time and ran back to his his corner pumped up and flexing screaming and jumping like he just won a major belt. I understand he’s happy and it was the reaction of the moment and emotion but, I can’t help but feel that this guy has been deeply misled after beating a legion of nobodies and then calling out the Klitschkos after the fight. He seemed to primp and pose for cameras and was seemingly at times more caught up in his image and looking cool moreso than composing himself as a fighter. IMO- he fought sloppy against a less than gatekeeper challenge and I don’t think that he really undestands that he’s fought absolutely nobody as of yet that will tap his chin. When he does, the big question will be.. will all the hype that has been pumped into him explode like a needle to a balloon? He’s not humble and I can’t say that it’s his fault moreso than the people around him. Are they building him up for the ultimate letdown? Time will surely tell.

Posted August 7, 2012 12:09 am 


Gman

There is nothing wrong with losing some fights. Wlad is still great and was fun to watch against stiff opposition in his early pro run. Wlad has learnt from his loses – what has Wilder learnt so far by fighting cans lesser than street bums? Nothing…. – and as a viewer Wilders fights has been nothing worth for any boxing fan.

Posted August 6, 2012 6:51 pm 


Punchy

Just need to edit this comment- What is the point of comparing his record to Wladimir, it is clear Wladimir was NOT brought along properly, you only have to look at his early three losses. And with a lesser man it could have ruined his career. I like what I see in Wilder but he is not a puncher, despite his record, he is a boxer and needs time to develop to suggest putting him in with a seasoned pro like Rahman now is stupid. In two years he can take a Rahman apart. He should be fighting for a title around the age of thirty.

Posted August 6, 2012 5:57 pm 


Punchy

What is the point of comparing his record to Wladimir, it is clear Wladimir was brought along properly, you only have to look at his early three losses. And with a lesser man it could have ruined his career. I like what I see in Wilder but he is not a puncher, despite his record, he is a boxer and needs time to develop to suggest putting him in with a seasoned pro like Rahman now is stupid. In two years he can take a Rahman apart. He should be fighting for a title around the age of thirty.

Posted August 6, 2012 5:55 pm 


Kid Blast

FA, Co-sign

Posted August 6, 2012 4:01 pm 


steggy

Wilder & Mitchell should fight each other, that might tell us alot about these two fighters…Both show potential, but the promoters of both could destroy their potential by thinking of $$$, first, and their careers, last!

Posted August 6, 2012 2:50 pm 


Gman

Povetkin has 24 fights as pro – the same as Wilder. Try to compare their resumes :mrgreen:

I smell another Lacymania about this Wilder…….

Posted August 6, 2012 1:28 pm 


1-Ton

I couldn’t agree more. 2 guys with padded records removing the pads. I seriously doubt this happening though. Not sure about Wilder. But having followed Rodriguez’s career pretty closely, I’m convinced that David is content being a glorified club fighter. I don’t think he is interested in ever stepping up.

Posted August 6, 2012 1:25 pm 


spazo

The reason so many prospects are brought along so slowly is that their handlers don’t want to risk them losing a big payday. If we could get the @ickhead promoters out of the way we could have legitimate HW tournaments in the USA and Europe, the fighters would get a decent paycheck for their work and we would have 1 legitament champ. My opinion anyway.

Posted August 6, 2012 1:13 pm 


Fight Aficionado

The author is regurgitating the nonsense Wilder’s camp is pitching. Wilder and his camp are being criticized for cherrypicking laughable comp, not for dominating opponents. If he had a 100% KO ratio against half way decent comp then he’d have huge hype. Instead the general public doesn’t even know him. That’s because nobody knows the punching bags, drunks and bellhops he’s been facing.

Posted August 6, 2012 1:07 pm 


Kid Blast

Rahman! :roll: :roll:

Posted August 6, 2012 9:55 am 


Derek

In 2012 Wilder has stepped up from guys nobody’s heard of to guys you’ve heard of but have lost their last 5 meaningful fights. In 2013 it will be guys you’ve heard of but have only lost their last 3 meaningful fights, then in 2014, guys who have won 3 meaningless fights, and in 2015, Hasim Rahman.

Posted August 6, 2012 9:10 am 


Bill (KlichKO brothers are the best REAL HEAVYWEIGHTS ever)

ENOUGH OF BECKS AND MANSWELS! Deontay got to STEP UP! I like the idea of him fighting those European top guys like Helenius, Boytsov, Pus sy Povetkin, PULEV, Chagaev etc. STEP UP WILDER! PROVE THAT YOU ARE FOR REAL. Fight Fury and Price, ABDUSALAMOV, Arreola! Step up man!!!

Posted August 6, 2012 8:45 am 


Bill (KlichKO brothers are the best REAL HEAVYWEIGHTS ever)

Very solid comment. Agree all the way.

Posted August 6, 2012 8:30 am 


Tyson G

Crazy stuff when writers and supporters use a lacking amateur background as a legitimate reason for fighting bums 4 years into your pro run. Wilder won US championships, National Golden Gloves and got a bronze at the Olympics. He even defeated Rakhim Chakhkiev as an amateur. To me that is a pretty solid amateur background, so his pro run i pathetic so far. How many boxers does have a better amateur background?

Posted August 6, 2012 8:21 am 


Realtalk

Time to step up his game!

Posted August 6, 2012 8:19 am 


Kid Blast

Other possibilities could be Canadian Bermane “B Ware” Stiverne (22-1-1) who now fights out of Las Vegas and who waxed Ray Austin last year, Tor Hamer (18-1) who recently won a Prizefighter Tourney in London, and Michael “Big” Grant who matches Wilder’s height and actually exceeds his reach advantage by two inches. Finally, Kevin “Kingpin” Johnson (28-2-1) might be the perfect test, but for God’s sakes, Deontay, step up and show us what you have.

Posted August 6, 2012 6:56 am 


Kid Blast

Fighting guys like a totally shot Owen “What the Heck” Beck and Marlon Hayes is fine, but it’s time to step up and I have just the right guys for him to fight.

Enter David “Nino” Rodriguez. The 34-year-old “Nino” sports a record of 36-0 with 34 wins coming by way of KO. He has an impressive 94.44 KO percentage which is almost as good as Wilder’s astonishing 100%. Among Nino’s victims have been the immortal Marcus McGee, Stacy Goodson, and Marcus “Big Tuna” Rhode. He last fought in December 2011 when he waxed Byron Polley in two.

Posted August 6, 2012 6:56 am 


Bill (KlichKO brothers are the best REAL HEAVYWEIGHTS ever)

Wilder criticism is fair. At 4th pro year Vladimir KlichKO became a champion of the world. He was multiple interconti-champion at his 3rd pro year…Wilder is at his 4th pro year and has done absolutely nothing worthy. It’s fair criticism.

Posted August 6, 2012 6:18 am 


righthook

Too slow of a progression and fighting bums won’t get him my respect. I don’t want to hear about him anymore until he fights a name fighter.

Posted August 6, 2012 6:00 am 


knowall

Travis is to bigger step. The guy is working towards being world champion level and I think its great management. He has a big profile as is often talked about and so far a good record 24 0. I agree he needs to step it up but if he fights two more times this year against the likes of witherspoon, mansour and guinn, then thats a big step up and by the middle of next year he will be ready fo guys like grant and harris. He is going in the right direction

Posted August 6, 2012 3:32 am 


huckster

tin can alley only gets a cats meow.

Posted August 6, 2012 3:30 am 


Adrian

A step in a right direction would have been if he fight next the guys like Travis walker …

Posted August 6, 2012 12:06 am 


Adrian

The criticism will stop when he fight top 20 ranked.. Why is unfair ?
If you beat everyone easy and you consider that to be a problem than it means he is ready to fight everyone out there, so the question is , why is he not fighting big names yet ? Or is it maybe his managers are waiting for KlITCHKoS to retire and than to make a move?

Posted August 6, 2012 12:03 am 


Jim

NO, it is because he is fighting bums. Who cares if yiu are 24-0 if your beating nobodies.

Posted August 5, 2012 11:21 pm 


Michael Katac

these fighters, mitchell and wilder are developing way too slowly. Tyson started fighting top ten guys after a year and a half, in two years he was a champion. Mitchell is rnaked #2 by the wbo and has not even fought a top ten conteneder yet. these guys are not being developed properly.

Posted August 5, 2012 9:51 pm 


BEARS

This site is strait up ruined. The articles have never been that great just the comments. The comments made esb. Now esb has done itself and thereby contributed to the decline of boxing. And comments have to be approved by a moderator now. Complete and utter garbage. If someone responsible or partly responsible for this monstrosity is reading this, you blow dude.

Posted August 5, 2012 9:33 pm 


Punchy

He needs time, Wladimir was rushed when he fought Purity and look what happened. This kid looks the goods, very quick big with a good punch, he needs to develop. He needs time especially with little amateur background.

Posted August 5, 2012 9:28 pm 


Hosteen

ALL of the criticism that Wilder faces is more than justly due no matter how one tries to spin it and his people know it – Just wish they would reveal why they refuse to put him in with anyone who might remotely fight back.

Posted August 5, 2012 9:21 pm 


stuck in a moment

he had 24 fights. i cant remember the last time i seen him fight. tall clumsy guy with one big punch. maybe 5 people in america know who he is. i hope the rest of the wprld knows that not only is boxing on very tough times in america unless its floyd or manny, but you can forget about any americans watching or knowing anything about non pro boxing

Posted August 5, 2012 9:08 pm 


Pans

Something’s not right. They keep putting Wilder in with stiffs despite the fact that he’s easily KO’d all his opponents, they clearly don’t trust him with a live opponent. Maybe his promoters know something behind the scenes that the general public are unaware of (a weak chin perhaps? an inibility to cope with pressure?).
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Posted August 5, 2012 7:56 pm 


Brazilian Boxing Fan

According to the author, Wilder should only step up in 2015. I believe he should have stepped up already.

Posted August 5, 2012 7:23 pm 


raging bull

:roll: ye what is he waiting 4 hes 24.0 an fighting cherry pickey opponents hes seasoned enough 2 take on tough journey men not has beens an guys that turn up 4 a pay check, most of his if not all have been punch bags…owen beck lost his last 6 before the wilder fight , an manswell has lost 6 of his last 8 an took the fight on 10days notice how much advantage does wilder need , his just being built up an protected by his promoter an team around him, he looks athletic an fast so I dont know why he wont step up an fight some 1 in the top 50 not 250

Posted August 5, 2012 7:12 pm 


BEARS

:roll: wilder needs to fight real comp. So does mitchel but wilder just pisses me off same as mitchel. They refuse to fight anyone we heard of. Won’t even fight the barrets,peters,lyakhovic’s, they won’t fight any top 20 contenders. Their garbage until they step it up.

Posted August 5, 2012 7:12 pm 


The Kingslayer

No he’s taking criticism because he’s facing complete bums.

Posted August 5, 2012 7:05 pm 


Anonymous

Yes he deserves critisicm. Has he acctually fought a fighter ranked in the top 100?? Hmm that says so much lol

Posted August 5, 2012 6:59 pm 


Oh dear..

The post title actually answers the question. It is not unfair criticism if he is beating opponents TOO easily, and there are better tests he could be facing. Every pro gets it when they step up too slowly. What’s this about the benifit of following the same footsteps as Chavez? Chavez got loads of flak for his slow progress, but Deontay has thrust himself into the limelight somewhat by getting a bronze medal at the Olympics, so the criticism is just more focused because people actually know about him.

Posted August 5, 2012 6:36 pm 



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