For a bum…Douglas was sure big, tall, strong, fast, skilled, and durable and well trained—the the night he beat the crap out of Tyson..
If the referee counted faster Douglas would have gotten up quicker. He wasn’t hit very good and he wasn’t hurt AT ALL!!!!
Besides he wasn’t a bum.. The only bum who ever beat Tyson was Kevin McBride.. How many title fights did McBride ever earn???Posted February 2, 2014 6:14 pm
Buster Douglas is really a bum. Don’t hype up his legacy. He’s a fat bum. Should have been counted out. Buster Douglas………stop it.Posted February 2, 2014 2:15 am
Buster Douglas benefited from a slow count by the referee in his fight with Tyson.Posted February 2, 2014 2:12 am
Tark…you full of it. That was the longest count in boxing history otherwise, Tyson should have won by KO.!!!!!
Posted January 30, 2014 10:30 am
Lol. Just the fact that Douglas was ” long counted ” he deserves more credit to the win because how in a hell a guy comes up from that ko and knock you up ?lol Tyson should have finished Douglas if he was ” long counted ” ! Don’t use that losing argument because Tyson looks even worse like that that’s why Tyson move on … LolPosted February 1, 2014 12:12 am
It’s only NOT proof of intent if you haven’t tested sample B yet… Or if both A and B samples may have became adulterated or contaminated in some way, and you can demonstrate the likelyhood of that happening, then it isn’t conclusive proof, which I think Rios has done.
There’s some doubt in Rios’s case. He didn’t directly use a new testing kit — and he passed another testing regimen that was performed at the same time.
But if you admit to having banned PEDs administered to you, such as Lamont Peterson admitted, obviously you intended to take them. He didn’t think they’d show up on the tests because the quacks giving him the synthetic testosterone said they wouldn’t. Maybe they were using a masking agent that wasn’t effective, but his levels were really high and wouldn’t have passed any test.
Some guys will smoke a weed like Chavez Jr. not realizing marijuana is a banned drug — but ignorance of the banned PED list is no excuse.Posted January 30, 2014 11:40 pm
“Guys, a positive test result is not and never will be proof of intent.” – Joseph Heron athletes are responsible for what they put in their body. Their supposed intent is irrelevant. Fact is if they test positive they’re a PED abuser. Any other conclusion is an excuse.Posted January 30, 2014 7:21 pm
Anonymous you’re full of crap!!!
The “Long Count” in “Dempsey vs Tunney II” was longer—and among many other counts that were much longer than the two Douglas-Tyson counts.
Douglas could have gotten up and any time because he wasn’t hurt.
Douglas didn’t even get hit with a clean shot. The uppercut hit his chest first, before it bounced off and hit his chin (watch it in slo mo). It lacked KO force. Douglas was unhurt and carefully watched the referee and the count. It IS the referee’s count—fast, slow, or dead accurate—that counts out a boxer.
The judges were trying to rob Douglas.
Buster won 9 of 10 rounds but two of the judges had Tyson ahead at the stoppage. Don King influenced who the officials were. One of the Douglas-Tyson judges (Ken Morita) showed up for Mayweather-Castillo II. He tried his best to rob Floyd. His scorecard was ludicrous—because most people saw it as a shutout by Floyd, or Floyd losing one round at the most … including Castillo’s corner as they were begging him to fight, “You’re way behind.”Posted January 30, 2014 2:15 pm
Anonymous – for once a boxing fan telling the truth about that fight. Biggest upset = longest count. You’d think with all the video material there would be no bs, atleast Iron Mike is over it so should we.Posted January 30, 2014 12:30 pm
Tark…you full of it. That was the longest count in boxing history otherwise, Tyson should have won by KO.!!!!!Posted January 30, 2014 10:30 am
Right on maracho baby — and Golden Boy has been known to do a fair amount of banned drugs himself. Maybe not performance enhancing; more mood enhancing. Maybe not synthetic testosterone; more genuine benzoylmethylecgonine.Posted January 30, 2014 3:07 am
Peterson admitted to using roids during his fight against Khan and then he was caught when he tried using them in the rematch. For Vivek to say its a non-issue proves that he is as corrupt Golden Boy who bought Peterson’s reinstatement.
Not only that but he compliments Golden Boy for continually racketeers their own fighters while more deserving fighters are forced to languish.Posted January 30, 2014 1:04 am
Hidalgo, go shoot yourelf with a 357 magnum straight through the brain.
Any opponent of Pederson should assume he’s going to cheat again if he can get away with it. Therefore they should demand randomized PED tests like pederson demanded of Khan while he was cheating. What a dumb dork.Posted January 29, 2014 11:59 pm
“dont make the assumption peterson wasnt on peds in the bradley fight.”
Rather, DO make the assumption Peterson wasn’t on PEDs in the Bradley fight.Posted January 29, 2014 9:25 pm
“Hidalgo, you’re the most naive dork on the planet.”
D, go stab yourself in the eye.Posted January 29, 2014 8:27 pm
dont make the assumption peterson wasnt on peds in the bradley fight. there wasnt any random testing for that fight. bradley could have beaten him whatever peds he took. just like matthysse beat him. peds are not going to make you beat everybody if you’re mediocre.Posted January 29, 2014 6:21 pm
I think you could make the argument that he did not use the peds in the Bradley fight.But did Bradley?Posted January 29, 2014 3:18 pm
Peterson is the guy who demanded the random PED tests for Khan.
But Lamont was taking banned PEDs at the time. He said, “Why did I ask for the tests when I’m the guy taking PEDs?”
W.C. Fields.., “Why do I drink and drive? … I’m stupid.”Posted January 29, 2014 2:07 pm
RIOS was tested and busted with Pacs ex trainer when they were made to take a test the Boxing Commision didn’t require. The same test Pac was NOT willing to take when he had the same trainer. This is kind of like the OJ Simpson case. You know he did it, but you can’t prove it. LOLPosted January 29, 2014 2:04 pm
PACMAN tell Ariza to make me one of the Chocolate super power shake. Ariza said that was where Pac was getting all of that extra energy and power from. That makes since now, Ariza is gone and PAC is not the same fighter. ummmPosted January 29, 2014 2:00 pm
Peterson should have did like PAC. Not take the test and sue anyone for suspecting that he is on PEDs. lolPosted January 29, 2014 1:47 pm
The truth is, the 23-year-old Mike Tyson wasn’t as prepared as he could have been for Douglas—but I believe Buster would have beaten Mike even if Tyson took Douglas more seriously.
Douglas was very tall, very strong, very big, very fast, and very skilled… He had a good body attack and could fight inside and outside. He could defend himself well too. His dad, a world ranked professional boxer at one point, taught Buster how to box from the time he was three years old.
His dad said, “Buster would be great if he ever worked hard at being a good boxer. But he’s laziest kid I’ve ever seen in my life.”Posted January 29, 2014 1:36 pm
Tokyo- Tyson was prepared all right he was attacking Douglas all night but Douglas simply outboxed him and knock him out late not because Tyson was not on his prime or wasn’t prepared but was beaten by Douglas who btw had to fight at ” 9am. ” too just as TysonPosted January 29, 2014 5:02 am
Not at all…
Douglas dominated the Hell out of Mike and hit him at will… Buster was just too big… too tall (6’4″ X 232)… too fast… too strong… too skilled… and just too ready to fight for little Mike (5’11″ X 218).
Tyson looked like a little tiny boy trying to take a cigar away from his daddy. Douglas had the worst chin in the world and Mike couldn’t take him out.
Holyfield canned glass jawed Buster with one punch… and stopped Mike twice.Posted January 29, 2014 3:06 am
Tyson fought Douglas at 9am Japan time, Douglas was obviously up for the fight, Tyson had not trained probably, he was not there for the fight, he would of destroyed Douglas if had took the fight seriusly, Douglas was not in his league.Posted January 29, 2014 2:34 am
Stark…, “There will always be a couple of amazing boxers in the same era. Prime Tyson, Ricardo Lopez.”
Tyson wasn’t an amazing boxer.. Boxers defend.. Buster Douglas did a pretty amazing job of boxing on Mike Tyson — given the fact that he was a 42-1 underdog.
Rosando Alvarez beat the tar out of Ricardo Lopez twice… and was robbed blind twice… I don’t know what kind of amazing boxer Finito was… Not too amazing anyway—because how many opponents of his can you name besides Alvarez??? Probably none.
Right now you have Mayweather… Rigondeaux… Golovkin… Kovalev… Ward… and Wladimir who are all pretty amazing boxers.
Wladimir wasn’t amazing pre-Emmanuel Steward … but he went from terrible to amazing…going 10 years without a defeat and I know of only 2 other heavyweight champions who’s ever done that at the championship level … his steel-chinned brother Vitali and Joe Louis both did it.Posted January 29, 2014 2:27 am
Strike in the doghouse , you say ” prime” Tyson ??? When was he on his prime ??? Only when he won and beat the likes of spinks?? Come on I am tired of listening to kids who don’t know boxing who say Tyson was the best but only when he was on his “prime” ! When he lost to Douglas he ko’d him too but Douglas took it and exposed Tyson and showed to people that he was nothing special , he was very explosive but was very beatable ” prime” or not !Posted January 29, 2014 2:27 am
Herron says.., “A positive test result is not and never will be proof of intent.”
Obviously Joseph!!! That’s why they test sample “B” isn’t it???
It wasn’t until sample B, from a different lab, also came back positive for synthetic testosterone that Lamont FINALLY admitted he was taking a banned substance — and his team got his cover story together.
Now, if he really had a medical need to take a banned PED he would have made that known after the first sample came back positive for it.
One org stripped Peterson’s title forthwith—the right thing to do… The other org was more amenable for unknown reasons. Titles are worth one Hell of a lot of money and Boxing is a corrupt sport — flat out.Posted January 29, 2014 1:37 am
Stark in the doghouse
The only boxer comparable to mayweather is rigondeaux. There will always be a couple of amazing boxers in the same era. Prime Tyson, Ricardo Lopez. Etc. does mayweather stand above these guys??? Damn, it’s impossible to say.Posted January 28, 2014 10:21 pm
Rationalise it all you want Vivek, Peterson had Peds in his system. If a refusal to take a drug test is rationalisation enough for you to suspect a cheat then you cant win an argument on this one, sorry.Posted January 28, 2014 9:20 pm
Vivvvveeeekkkk!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Posted January 28, 2014 7:47 pm
Hidalgo, you’re the most naive dork on the planet. Lamont is a proven liar and didn’t want a random testing regimen like he demanded for Khan. That’s how he got caught cheating. Look at his musculature. Doesn’t look like he’s suffering from low testosterone like he claims.Posted January 28, 2014 6:43 pm
Hidalgo if you’re going to presume A. Peterson was clean as Vivek presumes or B. He was on synthetic testosterone again as I do, you have to look at the evidence. Fact: No VADA testing. Fact: Peterson got busted for PEDs when under VADA testing. Why do you presume he was clean given that scenario? Is it because you want to believe that?Posted January 28, 2014 6:25 pm
“According to who? Peterson wasn’t tested by VADA this time so the more reasonable presumption is we saw was a man juiced on synthetic testosterone who phased it out in time to beat the post-fight drug test.”
Why is that “a more reasonable assumption, F.A.?” Just because it’s the one you want to believe? Do you choose to not believe that Floyd’s “A” sample failed three times for three different fights? If so, why? Got any proof that Floyd passed them? Got any proof that Peterson cheated for his fight with Dierry?Posted January 28, 2014 5:10 pm
“Hidalgo, if there’s anyone dumber than you he doesn’t live on Earth. If you can’t figure out PEDerson is a cheat you’re one stupid mofo.”
Well tell me Brainiac, just how did you determine that Peterson was on PEDs for his fight with Dierry? You a mind reader? Did you sneak into his gym wearing your invisibility cloak? Or maybe you just pulled your dumb guess out of your ass? Smell it. That’s where it came from, Bozo.Posted January 28, 2014 5:07 pm
Thanks for the props Vito and Pacific Al. Appreciate it!Posted January 28, 2014 4:27 pm
Hidalgo, if there’s anyone dumber than you he doesn’t live on Earth. If you can’t figure out PEDerson is a cheat you’re one stupid mofo.Posted January 28, 2014 3:53 pm
Mikey Garcia has a suspect chin, not as bad as Khan but Mikey’s jaw ain’t that good. A good relentless attacking fighter will KO Mikey. Wait and see. Mikey has a weak chin. He’s gonna get KO’d soon.Posted January 28, 2014 3:05 pm
Haimat- Go find a girlfriend. Please.Posted January 28, 2014 2:43 pm
“How do ya figure that, Fight Aficianado?” Once a cheat always a cheat.
Use your brain if you have one. He didn’t ask for comprehensive testing.Posted January 28, 2014 2:16 pm
“Peterson wasn’t tested by VADA this time so the more reasonable presumption is we saw was a man juiced on synthetic testosterone ”
How do ya figure that, Fight Aficianado?Posted January 28, 2014 10:02 am
“What we saw Saturday was a man with a clean system…” – According to who? Peterson wasn’t tested by VADA this time so the more reasonable presumption is we saw was a man juiced on synthetic testosterone who phased it out in time to beat the post-fight drug test.Posted January 28, 2014 3:37 am
“Only Peterson apologists view testing positive for synthetic testosterone as a non-issue. Peterson LIED and said he was clean after the first positive test. He demanded that a lab of his selection test sample B… It was only AFTER sample B came back positive that Peterson admitted to taking synthetic testosterone.” – TARK is exactly correct. Who the hell dismisses positive roids tests in this era? Vivek I suggest you read the Lance Armstrong USADA report to gain perspective on current day drug cheats.Posted January 28, 2014 3:35 am
The only reason Peterson’s roids levels were relatively low comared to dudes who are gearing up is he microdoses synthetic testosterone. This is done so the drugs leave your system after less than a day in order to pass drug screenings. Testing happens, they pass, then they cycle more roids. Peterson’s attempt to juice up while in the VADA program failed. He’s a proven cheater. Fact.Posted January 28, 2014 3:23 am
“The lead official for the medical staff produced proof that he was being treated for a condition and the traces found were low enough to pass any other drug test in the sport except the overly stringent “zero policy” VADA based testing.” – Vivek you have selective criteria. When discussing proven steroids cheater Peterson you accept his bogus excuse. But then have the audacity to imply Lucas Matthysse is on PEDs when he takes Amino 4500 which is merely a combination of 16 amino acids that are 100% legal. Please explain the discrepancy.Posted January 28, 2014 3:19 am
Vivek – I know why is the real reason you have “daubs” on Garcia potentials. , it’s because now it’s possible he will face paqiao and you know he will get his ass kicked so you hate giving credits to paqiaoPosted January 28, 2014 1:45 am
floyd mayweather ” the best ever”, 46 – 0: 46 wins – 0 ballsPosted January 28, 2014 12:51 am
I agree one hundred percent about Broner. Boxing is a serious business and even after that bad loss, he’s still treating it like its a game. Broner better grow up fast, or he’s in for another disappointing loss. And just like his entourage abandoned him after the loss, his team will do the same and Broner will be reduced to a EPSN gatekeeper, if he doesn’t retire by then.Posted January 28, 2014 12:23 am
vivak…you are delusional…cheating is cheating! I was a Peterson fan, but after he steam rolled Holt, I was a bit taken back! He then gets caught using and you do not think that it is a big deal!!!??? Last sat he looked like he normally does, SO PEds do work and that is why they are banned! He is NOT a champ (Lucas too his top off!!!) and Danny would ko his sorry ass, as Peterson has NO power without the PEDS!Posted January 27, 2014 9:20 pm
USA FOR PED
cHEATING, SIMPLE.Posted January 27, 2014 8:51 pm
PEDsterson should have gone the Mayweather route pay the boxing commission and destroyed Sample B to HIDE his cheating way. Mayweather will eventually get CAUGHT not now but soon. When Al Haymon gets tired of him. He will exposed Mayweather the PEDs user!!!Posted January 27, 2014 8:28 pm
BTW…, Peterson’s banned substance level was extremely elevated… It was a simple urine test. Not the more thorough blood testing. But he wouldn’t have passed any tests because of the elevated levels of synthetic testosterone in his system… It was many times the legal level so Vivek is full of it.
Peterson bought time to come up with an excuse—and get a cover story in place—by having a lab selected by his team test sample B… It wasn’t until sample B came back positive that he admitted to knowingly taking synthetic testosterone and claimed it was medically needed because of naturally low testosterone. If this was really true he certainly would have admitted it after the initial urine test came back positive for synthetic testosterone … instead of claiming it was a false positive.Posted January 27, 2014 8:19 pm
Your words about broner are dead on, I think because he said he celebrate after the maidana fight as he won he delusional and he don’t know what real or not anymore.
About arum do you trust him? Nope
He better off with arum, as smart guys alway make the right decision. Even idiots has a advise.Posted January 27, 2014 6:50 pm
Ask yourself this question how brite is Bradley ?
Why would I post about the other bodies when the only one that was relevant to the conversation at hand is the IBF? You already accused me of posting novels when I posted those three articles about IBF you idiot, adding another nine articles that weren’t even relevant to what I was discussing sure would’ve made a lot of sense now wouldn’t it? I’m criticizing you for posting too many essays, now I’m criticizing you for not posting even more that weren’t even relevant to what you were talking about.
You really are incredibly stupid. You don’t even know what an essay is. And you accused me of having a conversation with myself, which made absolutely no sense at all. You make getting everything wrong seem like art form. If ignorance is bliss, you got to be the happiest person in the world. Now run along and see if you can find someone of lower intelligence than yourself to try and get the better of, why not head down to your local nursery because I can assure you you’re wasting your time trying to do so here.Posted January 27, 2014 6:27 pm
So, allow me to digest for a moment what the scribe dictated. He states, “ a bout with Peterson would be a much tougher challenge for Garcia than the Matthysse bout was. Against Matthysse, it was fairly simple:.” Well yes, against Matthysse it was simple but it wasn’t so simple for Peterson, otherwise, he wouldn’t have gotten KO’d early. If Matthysse could withstand Peterson’s shots, so too can Garcia. The last thing Peterson will want to do if the fight is made is not to come in over confident. It didn’t help Matthysee who made easy work of Peterson and it didn’t help Khan who’s used to making a living on his back these days. It would be more challenging but not to the extent of what Bradley has been through. For Peterson to be successful, he needs an opponent who’s stationary. Besides, Peterson should be fed to Provodnikov first, rematch Matthysee and if he wins, then he should get a shot at Garcia.Posted January 27, 2014 5:50 pm
Vivek says…, “Some would raise the failed steroid test. My response would be that it’s a non-factor. The lead official for the medical staff produced proof that he was being treated for a condition and the traces found were low enough to pass any other drug test in the sport except the overly stringent “zero policy” VADA based testing. Couple that with the fact that he was cleared by the IBF, and certainly you have to view it as a non-issue.”
Only Peterson apologists view testing positive for synthetic testosterone as a non-issue. Peterson LIED and said he was clean after the first positive test. He demanded that a lab of his selection test sample B… It was only AFTER sample B came back positive that Peterson admitted to taking synthetic testosterone—and came up with a dubious medical need excuse—which few people believe because he never said anything about “low testosterone levels” until two (2) positive tests nailed his lying rear end to the floor.
Vivek says.., “We’ve seen Matthysse look subpar against pretty much every skills boxer he’s faced … Peterson is a skills guy himself.” … He is???
If Peterson is skilled why did Matthysse run him over like a freight train???
Matthysse didn’t look “subpar” against Judah and Alexander either. Judah was allowed to run and hold desperately for the last two rounds. Judah’s face was badly beaten up. Matthysse didn’t have a mark on him. The Alexander fight was another flat out robbery. Danny Garcia beat Matthysse legitimately in most people’s estimation.
Peterson is a brawler. He can box a little but he always resorts to brawling when he starts getting hit; it’s who he is. Danny is a big puncher and Peterson gets knocked out when they start exchanging—which they will.
The worst style matchup of all — is a brawler matched with a big puncher.Posted January 27, 2014 5:48 pm
Glad you are actually keeping your post to actual comments and not essays you BTICHPosted January 27, 2014 5:42 pm
Your the idiot. I know why you posted them but i simply asked if you did the same for all the other bodies. But apparently not.Posted January 27, 2014 5:42 pm
Having a conversation with myself? By posting a few articles to bolster my argument? That doesn’t even make any sense at all. You didn’t even have to read them to understand why I posted them you idiot. It was obvious why I posted them. Well to seemingly everyone bar you.
Also, you’re labouring under the misapprehension that I’m too dumb to figure out you’re a t-r-o-l-l. No one who can read and write could possibly be as stupid as you. Go and waste someone else’s time with your childish games.Posted January 27, 2014 5:32 pm
I’m a black guy who nuthugs black fighters. I love Floyd and Bradly because they’re black, like me.
Also, the I write the questions myself. Nobody actually writes to me. I just pretend they’re from other people.Posted January 27, 2014 5:08 pm
I haven’t read where he has accused Pac of anything. He says what he thinks, there is no problem with that. Unless he is blatantly accusing Pac of anything then it is not slander. On top of that, after what Roach said in his interview people can pretty much post whatever they think.Posted January 27, 2014 4:27 pm
I could go on but I think you should get the picture.Posted January 27, 2014 4:11 pm
YOU HAVE TO SAY BOXING IS FIXED!
Daryl “Bad For Boxing” Peoples
Like all the other alphabet soups, the IBF has been accused of corruption and flagrant disregard for its own rules. The result has been a handful of the bizarre stories so characteristic of professional boxing. For example, the IBF has been alleged to have had underhanded dealings with Colombian promotional interests for years, resulting in numerous unworthy Colombians being fed into IBF title fights so their management can collect a cut of the big pay day. Miguel Julio became the IBF’s #1lightweight contender in 1995, and manditory challenger for Oscar de la Hoya. De la Hoya refused to fight Julio, giving up his IBF strap instead, saying the match would be an embarrassment. Julio was then trounced by the lower-ranked Philip Holliday of South Africa for the title, and never heard from again. Julio’s manager, Ivan Feris Chadid, later swore to paying numerous bribes to the IBF to advance his fighters to big money title fights.
More recently, Zab Judah was scheduled to defend his undisputed welterweight title (Judah held the IBF, WBC and WBA belts at the time) against rising star Floyd Mayweather. However, he first had to defend against Argentine Carlos Baldomir. Judah, however, paid only the WBC’s sanctioning fee, since Baldomir was their #1 contender. In a bizarre display of boxing politics, when Judah lost to Baldomir, the Argentine only won the WBC’s title. The WBA, who had not been paid, declared their title vacant, which is in accordance with their rules. However, Judah’s and Mayweather’s management were desperate for their proposed match-up to be a world title fight, so the IBF out-sleazed the WBA by simply giving their title back to Judah, despite Judah having lost to Baldomir.
The IBF stands as the only one of boxing’s “alphabet soup” world sanctioning bodies to be held accountable for their dirty dealings in a court of law. In 1999, Bob Lee, who had served as the organization’s only President since it split from the WBA 16 years before, was convicted of racketeering and accepting bribes, forcing his resignation. The IBF was taken over by the Federal government, and administered by them until 2004. That the IBF stands as the only sanctioning body to be penalized in this faction is directly tied to its being the only one to operate under American law enforcement and the American courts: the WBA, WBC, and WBO all hang their hats in more “flexible” Latin American countries.
However, even being taken over by the US government did not keep the IBF in the clean for long, as Bob Lee’s successors have not shown much inclination to learn from his example. The IBF’s inexplicable ruling that Zab Judah was still its champion after losing to Carlos Baldomir came in January 2006, less than two years after the Federal government relinquished control of the organization.Posted January 27, 2014 4:09 pm
The IBF is being accused of corruption again – ranking a fighter for nefarious reasons and then firing a whistle-blower who dared to object. So far the accusation has been made only in a civil case, but you can bet the U.S. Justice Department is keeping an eye on the situation. It’s taken the New Jersey-based IBF into criminal court before.
And for the bozo who said the Peterson scenario wasn’t legit, try telling that to the IBF who totally cleared him as a result of the medical findings and ONLY the medical findings. You guys are classic. Duty calls. See u next week, as it’s pretty clear you all can’t miss a mailbag. #Unreal #LOLPosted January 27, 2014 3:42 pm
Haimat, before i head out for the day i wanted thank you for showing up ANOTHER WEEK. You’re here weekly without fail. Guess you like me more than you know lmao. Keep the fire burnin’ little guy. Peace….Posted January 27, 2014 3:41 pm
Prison break fellasPosted January 27, 2014 3:26 pm
Low testosterone is also a symptom of years of rampant steroid abuse.Posted January 27, 2014 3:18 pm
@Vito – “But VADA’s “zero policy” means if a guy is given meds to rehabilitate from an injury with steroids in them (asthma, whatever) he can’t fight AT ALL bcuz they don’t allow this. ”
That’s utter tripe. Guys that use steroids to recover from injuries are using Deca Durabolin and the like and that’s not just some “asthma medicine”. That’s bonafide anabolic steroids.
Peterson wasn’t using steroids to specifically heal injuries. He apparently has a naturally low testosterone ratio and so was allowed to use steroids to boost up to an acceptable ratio (i.e. a ratio that is permitted by most sports).
Personally, I don’t have a big problem with that, but neither do I have a problem with VADA reporting on it. You forget that this is their job; they’re there to test and show their findings, not to enforce rules based on them (so harping on about their “zero tolerance” policy is pointless). They test and report on their findings and then the commissions act however they choose based on those findings.
The only thing I’d criticize about the whole Peterson fiasco is that someone leaked the VADA findings before the commissions had made a decision on it.
In terms of Pacquiao, if he was using anything I don’t doubt that it was so he could push through his legendary 4 hour intense training sessions without getting injured (i.e. not getting injuries after months of that intensity every year is pretty odd); but that’s exactly what drug cheating is all about. It gives you an advantage where you can train harder and hone your body in ways that a clean athlete couldn’t dream of.
Has Vivek officially changed his alias to “Vito”? What a clown. He’s just the biggest fan-boy out there. I wonder how come esb have him asking himself questions and saying dumb stuff. It’s a mystery.Posted January 27, 2014 2:36 pm
Pacman never took a Usda or vasa test. Always made excuses like he scared of needles but got tattoo on his body.Posted January 27, 2014 2:29 pm
Vivek aka vito de prick is the most shamelessly biased “writer” on the internet. Don’t believe his whole “I have puerto rican in me” BS. Empiric evidence and pattern shows that she is biased towards black fighters period.Posted January 27, 2014 2:16 pm
What is the issue here? The guy was cleared by a doctor. The doctor came forward and explained the issue and what was going on. Peterson was cleared by the IBF. So what is the big uproar? Why do people always have to bring Pac in the convo? Peterson never declined to take any test. So whats the issue?Posted January 27, 2014 2:15 pm
ROFLMAO. Hilarious. The IBF cleared him on the strength of the medical officers clearance. The amount found in his system would have passed ANY TEST IN THE SPORT but failed the VADA testing bcuz of the zero tolerance policy. That’s my issue with VADA. You guys are clowns. Pac said he wouldn’t take any test NOT REQUIRED BY THE COMMISSION years ago and you boneheads ate it up like skittles. The traces found in his system would have passed the state test anywhere in the country as well as the Olympic standard testing. But VADA’s “zero policy” means if a guy is given meds to rehabilitate from an injury with steroids in them (asthma, whatever) he can’t fight AT ALL bcuz they don’t allow this. It’s crazy. Nevada and most states allow .06%, USADA allows .04%, AND VADA allows zero. So any athlete that has to recover from an injury is prohibited from fighting until months after it clears his system. Now ask yourself what athlete DOES NOT have to combat injuries??? Pacquiao had the leg cramps, stomach issues, etc. How could he have POSSIBLY passed the VADA testing earlier in his career? Now that he has agreed to the testing, look how ordinary he looked? You guys are morons lmbo. Keep being blind. I choose to seePosted January 27, 2014 1:47 pm
Vivek Eats His Own Feces and F@cks his Granny in the Bath
Don’t forget that feces munching pseudo intellectual burst hemroid Vivek doesn’t just hand out free passes to proven PED cheats of a certain complexion, he also wages vendettas against white and Asian ones who’ve never failed a test in their lives. Manny isn’t the only fighter whose reputation he’s tried to tarnish, he also did the same to Lucas Matthysse too.Posted January 27, 2014 1:41 pm
Before we get too carriedaway with Perterson.s performance, consider that once he felt Jean power and felt he had nothing to fear , Petereson just walked right througgJean. Jean looked like a featherweight fighting aWelterweight. When Peterson goes up against a fighter who can put himawan with one or two shots he wil need tubeless aggressive.Posted January 27, 2014 1:26 pm
Charlo showed some speed and counter punching ability but he still isn’t championship caliber at the moment. Peterson looked good but he should stay away from Danny Garcia if he wants to retain his belt.Posted January 27, 2014 1:23 pm
Vivek Eats His Own Feces and F@cks his Granny in the Bath
Guess who muthaf@ka?Posted January 27, 2014 1:21 pm
Bias author!!! Its ok because Peterson only had minimal amount of steroids???? Moron. Meanwhile Pacquiao who was never caught for steroids and you always had your doubts. You are an embarrassment to BoxingPosted January 27, 2014 1:21 pm
Vivek Eats His Own Feces and F@cks his Granny in the Bath
”Some would raise the failed steroid test. My response would be that is because Peterson is black and I’m a gigantic hypocrite who chops and changes his opinions depending on the race of the fighter, it’s a non-factor. The lead official for the medical staff produced proof that he was being treated for a condition and the traces found were low enough to pass any other drug test in the sport except the overly stringent “zero policy” VADA based testing which actually works and catches out the cheats the other testing agencies miss. Couple that with the fact that he was cleared by the completely corrupt IBF, and certainly you have to view it as a non-issue”Posted January 27, 2014 1:20 pm
VIVEK W- you fckn BIAS busta. How the fck you are going to have the stomach to said that PEDsterson positive test is a non-factor while you assumed Manny have taken something and trash him. You are a fckn N**ger.Posted January 27, 2014 1:08 pm
Every time Rosado loses he is complaining. What are you talking about?Posted January 27, 2014 1:06 pm
Rosado had to learn “on the job”, given his almost non-existent amateur experience. A lot of prospects nowadays get overly pampered and have careers that are carefully planned out by their promoters. Rosado has experienced none of those, he has been fed to the wolves constantly but you seldom here any complaints from the guy. In addition to this, the scar tissue that he has is making matters worse for him as well…Posted January 27, 2014 1:06 pm
Rosado isn’t a “bad fighter” for someone who didn’t have a lot of amateur experience. He started boxing at like 18-19yrs.old and he’s been in with some of the best fighters at 154-160lbs. Most boxers with limited experience would be still fighting class b and c boxers. Rosado has held more than his own with those guys with the exception of “El perro”Angulo. I think his team should get him a few winnable fights before he steps up against a top contender. I think he also should stay at 154lbs. He has the potential become a champion.Posted January 27, 2014 12:50 pm
TR not TVPosted January 27, 2014 12:34 pm
Still gotta give TV credit for taking Bradley to the level they have. Fights against both Pac & Marquez and a foty. Based on results you can’t be surprised at his choice!Posted January 27, 2014 12:34 pm
Vivek is asking himself questions again… Why?Posted January 27, 2014 12:31 pm
I agree, Fate1. He isn’t a “BAD” fighter. But every time out he’s in with an elite guy and they’re attacking that same eye. He isn’t giving himself a fair shot at progressing. Sucks….Posted January 27, 2014 12:13 pm
Man rosado needs to take some time off and let that cut over his left eye heal properly. I like him as a fighter but I think he needs a couple of easier fights to get his confidence back. He needs to work more on his defense so he can avoid cuts in the future. He is still young and still learning.Posted January 27, 2014 12:06 pm