Happyboy…, Most boxers are NOT retired or deteriorated at 34… Not unless they’re like Wilfredo Benitez and Victor Ortiz and get hit with everything anyone throws..
Those guys were washed up at 25. They got hit with everything.
Gennady Golovkin is still getting better at 31..
GGG will probably peak at 35 like Sergio Martinez did.. Lomachenko is another one.. Lomachenko thinks he can turn pro and beat everybody out there right away. That’s not the case — there was a learning curve at professional even for Rigondeaux. Rigo I think is 34 but he took his time.. So VL will need a couple years despite telling people he doesn’t need any development fights.
Floyd is just reaching his peak right now.. Maybe he’ll maintain his form until he retires next year.. I’ve never seen him looking better.Posted January 31, 2014 9:02 pm
AmPosted January 31, 2014 3:59 pm
Tark – you ridiculous, why wait till his 34yrs old an age when most boxer are either retired or deterioted? Pity how he never puts off fighting bums. GGG is all hype.Posted January 31, 2014 9:09 am
Kovalev isn’t the most talented boxer in the world, I’d give that title to Rigoondeaux, he’s a little Grandmaster of boxing. the guy is brilliant, although that new fella Lomachenko is one heck of a talent, and if ANYONE is gonna beat Rigondeaux it will be Lomachenko. But Kovalev is a pure beast and technically very good, I can’t see Ward beating Kovalev at all at any time in his career. For me Kovalev is the most dangerous fighter around, even more so than Golovkin. Which is really saying something because GGG is a brilliant pressure boxer.Posted January 31, 2014 9:08 am
That’s interesting… I see a very explosive fight if Ward-Golovkin happens. I see it within 2 years. It will take at least that long.
Ward will stay at 168 for a while and he actually would love to fight Golovkin right now.. Golovkin is actually improving faster than Ward is right now.. He had 4 fights last year.. He wants to fight Ward after he destroys Quillin and Martinez because they’re a lot easier than Ward at this point and Gennady is learning something with every fight.. GGG just battered Stevens and Stevens just smashed somebody out in the first heat, getting back in very fast.
Ward is a very good boxer… He’s hard to beat… I don’t see him challenging Kovalev for a LONG time because it’s a suicide mission… He’s waiting for GGG, and he’ll get his wish in due time.
Interesting thing… 160 to 168 is 8 pounds… 168 to 175 only 7 pounds. Usually the farther you go up the more poundage each step.Posted January 31, 2014 2:43 am
This is gonna be pretty funny, Ward is gonna get beat by both Golovkin and Kovalev depending on which one he chooses first. They’ll both KO Ward. Golovkin might take 6-7 rounds, at most, but Kovalev would absolutely tear Ward apart in less than three rounds. Ward can even fight in his own backyard with his own judges and his own ref if he wants, like he usually does, it won’t make any difference. Ward won’t be able to cope with Golovkin’s relentless pressure, and he’ll be KO’d, but at least it’ll be a little slower than being totally and utterly wiped out by Kovalev, which is exactly what will happen to Ward.
Golovkin beats Ward in 6-7 rounds by TKO
Kovalev destroys Ward in less than three rounds KO!Posted January 31, 2014 12:44 am
GGG had 350 amateur fights, so he had a very late start like Rigondeaux and Lomachenko.
He’s already had 9 world title fights, but it doesn’t make any sense to move to 168 until he unifies at 160. In 2 more years he’ll have everything owned at 160 and he can fight Ward.
Last year GGG offered a few of the ranked fighters at 168 money in the 450,000 dollar range.. Guys like Edwin Rodriguez.. He wanted to test himself at the weight before he fought Ward.. Now, he justs wants to unify the major titles at 160 and then jump straight to Ward.Posted January 30, 2014 10:05 pm
B Red… Ouma had only been stopped once before, very early in his career. He’s a very tough guy who had no trouble going the distance with Taylor and other top middleweights. Knocking him out was OK for a guy with only 20 fights, which Golovkin had at the time.
The fight should have been stopped earlier. The referee hesitated a few times before Golovkin really laid into Ouma and forced him to jump in.
Ouma said himself that he took a bad beating, and his corner or the referee should have stopped it earlier. He took about 30 months off following the loss. People who should have been concerned with his welfare seemed completely clueless to the punishment he was taking.Posted January 30, 2014 9:49 pm
yes by any semblance of good looksPosted January 30, 2014 9:45 pm
GGG and kovalev are avoided.Posted January 30, 2014 9:41 pm
Box him thats how Geale dealt with himPosted January 30, 2014 9:27 pm
sure. you box adama tough guy.Posted January 30, 2014 8:52 pm
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What a waste of energy this fight is . How many rounds will it go 2 or 3 ?Posted January 30, 2014 7:58 pm
GGG fought 4 times last year and not in the same time zone. Lets see ward or Floyd do that.Posted January 30, 2014 7:49 pm
testPosted January 30, 2014 7:48 pm
I see the usual complaints about GGG’s comp. It’s only half valid. Yes, it’ll be better to see him against the top guys at 160. No, it’s not his fault this hasn’t happened. Martinez has ducked him from day 1. Lou DiBella confirmed he would not fight GGG period. That’s confirmed fact. Think Chavez Jr will? Any other title holder? Please give names of any one who’s called him out.Posted January 30, 2014 7:05 pm
Question: How many of those hot French babes that hit Monte Carlo to pick up rich men are giving GGG full body massages this week? They’re all confirmed swallowers.Posted January 30, 2014 7:01 pm
Govovkin is far and away the world’s best middleweight.
The other world champions will not fight him. Martinez and Quillin struggled with guys who look like sparring partners when matched with GGG.
The Ouma fight was GGG’s toughest… He had only 20 fights going in.
He knocked Ouma out—but had to beat him brutally to get the stoppage, which he thought was late. He said he was happy to get a lot of action and rounds in because nobody took him 3 rounds in the previous year. It’s not good to blast everyone out early. Golovkin was thankful Curtis Stevens was rugged enough to get up from a vicious 2nd round knockdown. Stevens gave GGG another 6 rounds of work before Stevens’ corner called a halt.
You need those rounds. Foreman hadn’t gone past 2 rounds in 3 years when he fought Ali. Liston hadn’t gone past 1 round in 3 years when he faced Ali.
Kassim Ouma was a former world champion and the NABA North American Middleweight Champion having just KO’d Joey Gilbert. GGG had only 20 fights and it was a great matchup for him. Anytime you come out of a vicious brawl you realize you need to pick up your boxing and punching skills to a great degree. That’s the biggest lesson you learn when you look at your swollen face.Posted January 30, 2014 5:49 pm
Happyboy he is 31 not 33Posted January 30, 2014 4:37 pm
I agree he needs a dam good test this yearPosted January 30, 2014 2:28 pm
From the eye test he looks like the goods. They way he has dispatched his opponents is pretty dang good. He does need to get better comp but from what I see I think he is the best at 160Posted January 30, 2014 1:40 pm
B Red – the problem with these casual fans is they just look at the record and not the opponents they forget that in sport, you only as good as your competition.Posted January 30, 2014 12:13 pm
GGG has all the street punks scared. He beat that Stevens boy down…Posted January 30, 2014 11:49 am
GGG is the best middleweight in the division. Quillin sure doedn’t want to meet him, lollllllll!Posted January 30, 2014 11:46 am
Anonymous – The Hawk’s record before the fight with G – Man was : won 46 ( 44 KOs ) – 1 – 0Posted January 30, 2014 11:30 am
Anonymous – I will check too but I remember how he blew away one of my favourite fighters Terrible Terry Norris.Posted January 30, 2014 11:18 am
Thanks HAPPY BOY. But, it would be nice for someone to confirm for me Julian Jackson’s KO ratio at the point he stepped into the ring to defend his Middleweight title vs Gerald Macclellan. I remember the commentator telling us his KO ratio and I believe it was higher than GGG and also vs better quality opposition including the likes of Bomber Graham.Posted January 30, 2014 11:13 am
Anonymous – GGG KO ratio is nothing new in MW & boxing nor is the hype behind him. What is new are the claims that no top boxers/ fighters wanna fight him made up by his fans. I have seen nothing special yet from GGG and his already 33yrs old and is about to make his 10th defense. A rising star over 30, pffft hype I say.Posted January 30, 2014 11:01 am
Nobody beats GGG at middleweight. At least not from what I have seen of him.Posted January 30, 2014 10:06 am
If marteniz is impressive vs cotto then il see he has a chance and qulin is not bad also, lots of good fights out there for GGG Murray, sturm, geale to name a few. But I’d love to see him fight mayweather at light middle. But who beats him? Only mayweather and ward but that won’t be at middle weightPosted January 30, 2014 9:11 am
Can someone please check YOUTUBE footage of JULIAN JACKSON defending against GERALD MacLELLAN? If my memory is correct JACKSON is said to have the highest KO ratio of any Middleweight Champion (per the commentator and I’m sure it was higher than GGG).
When I get time I will confirm this, but it may be because Jackson fought most of his career as a Jnr Middleweight, but his world titles at 2 weights combined up to the MacClellan fight were higher than GGG and vs a far greater calibre of opposition. Far greater.Posted January 30, 2014 8:45 am
serious question, who can beat him at middleweight?Posted January 30, 2014 8:09 am
Highest KO ration vs WHO?Posted January 30, 2014 5:27 am