HEY RAY GORDON REID – Where the H-E-Dbl-Toothpicks you been? How’s it going man? Good to see you back @ ESB…Posted October 6, 2012 3:43 pm
Trouble is, Povetkin stands in front of his foe and trades shots. That’s the worst thing to do against Wlad. He has very little movement and he’ll just get more and more beat down, like everyone else. He’s tailor-made for Wlad to beat…it will look like Wlad vs. Chambers, though Povetkin will continue to throw punches throughout the fight unlike Eddie. I doubt much of consequence will land, as he doesn’t have the speed of Haye to get in even the occasional big punch.Posted October 3, 2012 9:07 pm
Povetkin won’t beat Wlad but he will arguably be the best fighter Wlad has ever faced. I think he does want to fight him this time, too. He wouldn’t say no for years and then say he wanted the fight. If he didn’t want it he would just keep defending his own “title.” I think once he got rid of Atlas who had no confidence in him he decided he should go for a real title, at least so he can say he gave it a shot.Posted October 3, 2012 9:02 pm
I’ve had the “duplicate post” problem, also it gently hit the say it button and I get a warning for posting to fast and my comment won’t even be listed–seems to be an issue with the new post system.Posted October 3, 2012 12:35 pm
OK… It looks like I have duplicitive posts. That’s because when I tried to put them up, they didn’t go up. And now they’re up. Weird.Posted October 3, 2012 12:28 pm
Haye didn’t “barely win” his fight with Valuev. He won by a big enough margin where it would have been ridiculous to give it to Valuev. The fight was in Germany, and it was pretty much like Chambers’ dominant win over Dimitrenko—where he floored the giant and pretty much landed all the meaningful punches—but got a ridiculous MD. Americans and Brits face a harder time in Continental Europe than Euros face in the US or Brittan. In my view Chambers beat Povetkin because his connects did 4 times the damage, but they scored it like an amateur fight.Posted October 3, 2012 11:26 am
I wouldn’t say Haye “barely beat” Valuev. The fight was in Germany and he had to win comfortably enough to get the decision. The fight was a little like Chambers-Dimitrenko, also fought n Europe. Chambers pretty much dominated the fight and had the giant going, but won a ridiculous MD. In my view Chambers scored heavily enough to beat Povetkin. His connects did 4 times as much damage but it was scored like an amateur fight. It’s just that in Continental Europe Americans and Brits have to be more dominant than Europeans have to be here… Robbery is pretty much an every day deal over there.Posted October 3, 2012 10:28 am
I think Povetkin would be smart enough to smother Haye, and not get caught clean all that often. I see him bullying his way to a UD win against Haye. Then again if he came in looking sluggish, and demotivated, like he has in the past, then I’d pick Haye to pull out a stoppage win. Haye’s a monster puncher with stamina issues. It’s all about whether you can take his punches, or hurt him in return, or both. There’s not a heavyweight in the world 6,4 or under that he isn’t capable of knocking out.Posted October 3, 2012 8:54 am
Bill Patrice Jones
Povetkin’s ‘world title’ is totally phony. This is absolutely no reason for either Klitschko brother, especially Wladimir, to care at all about fighting him. There was certainly some clamour for the fight when Povetkin was fresh off beating: Byrd/Chambers but that interest has since faded. Povetkin has nothing to shout about. In the spring/Summer of 2010 it was all offered to him on a plate again, and he said no. They offered him 2.2million to fight Wladimir in Frankfurt, and he refused. To get more experience? Well they offered him a final eliminator with Sam Peter in the states and he refused that aswell! So the title shot, and the 2.2million went straight to Peter instead. Povetkin’s a very talented boxer, but he’s done nothing of note since 2010. The only way he’s going to get attention is by backing up this Rahman knockout with 2-3 truly impressive victories. I don’t know if Povetkin’s people have enough money to entice David Haye, but we all know the Hayemaker would love to somehow claim he’s a two time world champion at HW, and therefore deserves something close to 50/50 against Wladimir in a rematch. This dynamic would tempt him into fighting Povetkin. Very tough fight for both men. The message to Povetkin should be crystal clear: Stay busy, and be impressive, the Klitschkos don’t trust you, and the world doesn’t respect your world title.Posted October 3, 2012 8:50 am
Honestly, the only two people I’d put as clear favourites against Povetkin in the current HW landscape would be the brothers.
Gonzo the Dragonborn
Povetkin won 125 amateur fights and lost 7 (all those loses avenged) and he won more gold medals at international tournaments than I can be bothered to count, including Olympic gold, World Amateur Championships gold, 2 x European gold medalist, 4 x national champion, and he won gold medals at the World Junior Championships, European and World Championships as a kickboxer.. anyone have any idea how many times he was stopped as an amateur? Er. never. He’s only ever been off his feet once in his life (both amateur or pro) and yet people claim he has a weak chin? lol. He holds 3 victories over the the big hitting Italian great Roberto Cammarelle and never once looked like being hurt. lol. Just because he was on unsteady legs against Marco Huck after getting clocked with about 4000 full-blooded rabbit punches whilst totally out of gas doesn’t mean he has a chin problem lolPosted October 2, 2012 8:52 pm
Frankly its very hard to judge Haye, as hes only fought 2 heavyweights in the top 10. One was Valuev, who despite having a belt Ring was only rated at 6. Haye barely won. The other ranked fighter he fought was Vladimir and he lost decisively. Ruiz was 3-3 in his last 6 fights, Barrett was 3-3 going in, Valuev should have lost to a 46 year old Holyfield, and of course Audley wasnt even in the top 20….and Chisora wasnt top 10, having lost to Tyson Fury and an old, one-armed Vitali. I dont know how to rank fighter who ducks most of the top 10….he may be great, but he would have to prove it…Posted October 2, 2012 7:34 pm
Chisora would have no chance against Povetkin, Haye should be favored, slightly, as Haye burns out quickly if the pace is pushed. He was breathing hard at the end of the Chisora fight. Chisora is the most overrated–in England only–heavyweight in the world. He fougnt 2 injured fighters in a row, and I give him kudos on his luck, but if he lost 10 rounds to 2 to a one-armed, faded vitali, he is not much of a fighter. There are a lot of fighters, Haye included, who would have beaten a one armed vitali….Posted October 2, 2012 7:26 pm
As usual many wide comments. In this era Pov is a smallish HW. He’s very good, just not great.
Rahman #1 in any ranking is a joke. I thought Pov would win but not that easily.
Pov vs Haye or Adamek would be good fights, maybe very entertaining. If Haye doesn’t beat Pov early I give the edge to AP.
What about Haye v Arreola? Of course Haye doesn’t have the cajones for that fight !Posted October 2, 2012 7:19 pm
Chambers was landing straight right hand bombs on Pov until Pov figured it out and adjusted. His adjustment got him the win. He ain’t stupid and he has a good chin. His problem was conditioning, and Costa Zoo is going to help Pov in the Condition department. He did not win the Olympic Medal by being a chump. I think Pov has no chance against Wladimir at all. None, zip, zero, bagel. So he should fight guys his size inside his Bogus WBA Title and give us some good fights. Haye, Adamek, Arreola, Pulev. He can make some good coin here while avoiding the Big Man Wlad. And on another note, but related, I think Wlad should be sporting that WBA Belt around his waist. That is the way I see it, and blah blah blah, and so on and so forth, and that !! See what I am saying.Posted October 2, 2012 7:13 pm
I would love to see Adamek/Povetkin.Posted October 2, 2012 7:02 pm
Beer Party Movement
alonzow : If Wlad and Vitali were to fight 4 times a year, they would have run out of comepetition long time ago. And Wladmir are soon going to have his 3rd fight this year.
Ban corrupt judges
Haye, Chisora, Price Pulev would all beat Povetkin convincingly. My money would also be on Adamek beating him.
He is certainly a competent fighter but doesn’t possess a dominant jab, concussive punch or great speed.Posted October 2, 2012 5:19 pm
I find it very strange, that the phony
AP took HUGE shots from Chambers??? Chambers shots are about as huge as a freaking misquito bite.Posted October 2, 2012 2:18 pm
I say put Heye or chris Chorsola in there with Povetkin until the Klisko fight becomes availible.
Yes but Pov took those huge straight rights from Chambers, then adjusted to the fight and used 5 punch combos to back up Eddie and WIN the fight. Haye is wide open for a multi combo fighter. Povetkin takes Haye to the cleaners.Posted October 2, 2012 12:03 pm
I dreaded the Povetkin-Rahman matchup. I knew it would stink to high heaven because Rahman has the punch resistance of a flyweight … Somebody said, “Povetkin has a good chin and could take Hayes haymakers and counter them with four or five punch combos like he did to Fast Eddie.” Povetkin would be on the floor after a few Hayemakers. Povetkin’s chin looked terrible against Huck. He survived with help from the referee who kept running in to break up clinches that weren’t clinches. As far as Povetkin-Chambers goes, Eddie landed so many flush shots that Povetkin looked like he ran face first into a bee’s nest. Chambers was relatively unmarked by comparison.Posted October 2, 2012 11:46 am
Why does Wlad only do two defenses a year? I remember the days when Champs defended four times a year. Now, granted they defended against the likes of Lucien Rodriquez, Scott Frank and “The Lion of Flanders”, but they did it four times a year. He’d be caught up with Larry, Joe and Mo’ by now.Posted October 2, 2012 11:19 am
Swedish Boxing Fan
Hasim Rahman fought so bad against Alexander Povetkin that it was SADLY PAINFULL to watch. I diden’t expect a super fight but at least a competive matchg but even an overweight simple journyman had fought better then that. That fight can’t be called a top fight, not even a real boxing match either. It was embarasing to watch a former 2-time world heavyweight champion put on such a poor performance against an opponjent who hitsb hard but is no difficult for a man supposted to have been in an level Rahman had fought in before. Povetkin can never claim that victory to have been an achivment becouse evrey time he or someone else reminds of this fight, there will be no nice things said I can assure that. Hasim Rahman can beat journymen but he will soon turn 40 and have proven himself to be done at fighting top men in his pro career. Sad but true.Posted October 2, 2012 10:48 am
RAY GORDON REID
WLADIMIR OVER POVENTKIN 6.50 AM 10/2/2012Posted October 2, 2012 6:44 am
Sam Peter should be fighting like Rahman is doing. I still think Sam is formidable in todays HeavyweightPosted October 2, 2012 2:41 am
Swedish Boxing Fan
WHO CARES if Alexander Povetkin can or can’t defeat Wladimir Klitschko? Its irrevelant and if Povetkin want’s respect and recognition he MUST fight Klitschko. He is a top ranked fighter and true fighters don’t back out from a fight. If Povetkin ducks Wladimir any longer then 1-2 years MORE, he will forever be remeberd as an poor hearth lacking heavyweight fighter and to be honest its not Povetkin’s destiny to be that great fighter anywayPosted October 2, 2012 2:20 am
Sensible move for povetkin I think. If he can make another defence in december so be it. It wont be wlad as he has wach, and vitali wont fight again this year. This is his vol defence so pudor could be right. I heard hoffman thompson and harris as others too. If pov defends against one of these this year then he gets the mand challenger next. Perhaps a clever move would be to stay out the way of wlad till late 2014 and keep the regular belt till then. Then you get a really good pay day.Posted October 2, 2012 2:14 am
Povetkin/Haye would be another good fight.
Haye would be way too fast for Povetkin.Posted October 2, 2012 12:56 am
Bernd Boente is just as repulsive as Jose Suliman and Bob Arum.Posted October 2, 2012 12:56 am
I actually see Povetkin stopping Haye. Povetkin is a MUCH better boxer than Haye, who has squirrel balls.Posted October 2, 2012 12:30 am
“This isn’t exactly a bad thing for Povetkin and Sauerland because it’s not as if he’s going to beat Wladimir anyway.” This was an extremely funny sentence. But being serious, at 33 years of age, if Povetkin doesn’t have the skill and championship mentality yet, he never will.Posted October 2, 2012 12:10 am
Haye would murder Povetkin… Too damned fast, mobile, skilled, and hard punching. The way Haye looked in his last fight, it would last 2 or 3 rounds. I’d like to see Alex fight Helenius next, because he’s not fighting Haye.Posted October 1, 2012 11:50 pm
Povetkin is a joke until he fights the guy with the real WBA title. Until then, he’s just a “regular” boxer.Posted October 1, 2012 9:26 pm
The Russian Tyson
Povetkin is just too small for the Klits and he knows it.Posted October 1, 2012 7:03 pm
Alexander should avoid Wladimir.
@Puglife…….What do u mean by Arreola fought best competition. Thompson can at least say he tried to get in there with the best, but Arreola. Who’s he ever beat. And please don’t say McCline. The current McCline 3 yrs later is a far stronger and a more focused and determined fighter than the one Arreola beat.
Potvetkin OTOH beat 3 Ring top 10s. And have wins over the others cited in the article.
Like I said, Thompson at least tried to earn his mandate…..Arreola seems poised to take Rahmans route to the title…..beating Clevel prospects and fringe top 100s.Posted October 1, 2012 5:09 pm
Swedish Boxing Fan
The author dont ompresse me with this article and why would Wladimir Klitschko waith for fighting Alexander Povetkin? Povetkin is a good boxer but he is a poor “champion” and never won the title from the real WBA and undisputed champ Wladimir so we all wan’t Povetkin to step up and fight the real champion. Who cares if Povetkin will be champ again or not after if he would lose to Wladimir (Most probebly). He can if he fights well and acctually wins a real world title belt like the WBC title then or a rematch with Wladimir’s titles if he fought well enough.Posted October 1, 2012 4:56 pm
It’s pretty clear what’s happening with Povetkin. Promote him as a cash cow in Germany and Russia fighting washed-up fighters and no-hopers. The only question is: how long will fans over there pay to watch him fight guys like a more than 10 years past his prime Rahman? Say what you want about American HWs like Arreola and Tony Thompson but at least they fought the best and tried to win. Povetkin seems content to avoid fighting the best in the division for as long as he can get away with it.Posted October 1, 2012 4:55 pm
Why would he have to wait till the summer? It doesnt make sensePosted October 1, 2012 4:15 pm
Haye going down would be a treat !Posted October 1, 2012 4:09 pm
Povetkin easily destroys haye