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TARK

They try to find out what people will pay and charge a little more… They never adjust the price downward — in business that’s called leaving money on the table. It’s a sin.

Posted February 14, 2014 10:16 pm 


Goosey

I agree with Martin….

Posted February 14, 2014 7:22 pm 


Martin

**EDDIE HEARN RECLAIMS BOXING FOR THE PEOPLE**

Think of it, Eddie: a fight for the people, ordinary working-class people, not just those who can afford to pay through the nose for it. Get the biggest stadium you can and sell off the tickets at a price people can afford. They’ll have a great night out, and will go out thinking “I want to do that again!” If 80,000 go and love it, and don’t feel ripped off, they’ll tell their friends, they’ll want to go to more fights, and boxing could become really popular again. I’m sick of fights where the only people who can afford to get a decent seat are celebrities, and the only tickets available at all are £100 and upwards. Boxing is for everyone, but it has working class roots. That’s where the fighters come from, and where the real fans are. Time to reclaim boxing for the people Eddie!

Tickets go on sale from today priced just £15. Imagine it!

Posted February 14, 2014 7:18 pm 


Lee Froch is a chutney shunter

Groves to win, he’s the people champ now! Ps Lee Froch is a fat wankpot

Posted February 14, 2014 7:06 pm 


Goosey

Ricky Hatton vs. Juan Lazcano sold 55 thousand tickets.. it was £55 for a family ticket, 2 adults and 2 under 16s….. This is the way to go for this one…

Posted February 14, 2014 5:53 pm 


Fight Aficionado

Exactly. Greed may prevail over common sense though.

Posted February 14, 2014 5:51 pm 


Anonymous

Yes, don’t be greedy, Eddie. Aim to fill the stadium rather than your own pockets. That means making lots of tickets available for £20. Make the fans happy, raise the profile of boxing in the UK, put on the biggest British fight ever, and you’ll find your pockets filling up anyway (like they aren’t already!).

Posted February 14, 2014 2:48 pm 


Fight Aficionado

“In any case, it’d be the *second* biggest fight ever in terms of crowd size if he gets over 65,000 — but for that, again, he’ll need to make come cheaper tickets available, not least because sports fans here will be saving their money for a holiday in Brazil for the World Cup. I bet you the gate wasn’t all that expensive for the Chavez fight.” – Martin, good points. I think they’re being ambitious going after 60-80K seat stadiums. But if seats are at a good price that’ll buoy tickets by 20% = 60K fans. We’ll see how greedy they are.

Posted February 14, 2014 1:22 pm 


mack

Good for Froch for taking the fight. This is the fight the people want to see. Too often greed and pride cost the fans great fights.

Posted February 14, 2014 10:54 am 


AssyrianGod

Froch doesnt like movement and speed, if Groves can keep the fight at range, keep moving, pump out a lot of jabs and combos, he could pull it off.

Posted February 14, 2014 9:37 am 


Chaz

Robert McCracken: ‘Carl Froch was too strong for George Groves, even on a bad night.’ That pretty much sums it up for me. Expect Carl to be better on the night, and the outcome to be the same, only without the controversy this time.

Posted February 14, 2014 7:43 am 


Martin

Typos:

need to make *some* cheaper

*15*/85 split

Hate typos…

Posted February 14, 2014 7:17 am 


Martin

*put* on really cheaply, even….

Posted February 14, 2014 7:16 am 


Martin

Oh, didn’t finish this:

I bet you the gate wasn’t all that expensive for the Chavez-Haugen fight: these things are out on really cheaply in Mexico. The UK is a complete rip-off for everything. In fact, in Mexico you get to see all the PPV fights for free too on Televisa. Why did I ever leave?!! Going back soon to live in Iztacalco soon, I think….

Posted February 14, 2014 7:15 am 


Martin

@Fight Aficionado

Yeah, I know about the Chavez-Haugen fight at the Aztec Stadium (in fact I used to live in Iztacalco, where Barrera and JM Marquez — and my wife — are from, not far from the stadium: I’m sure members of my wife’s family went to see it). I was just trying to persuade Eddie that he could be the promoter of the “biggest fight” so that he makes some cheaper tickets available (he doesn’t know about fights that took place in 1983, and he reads these threads you know ;-).

In any case, it’d be the *second* biggest fight ever in terms of crowd size if he gets over 65,000 — but for that, again, he’ll need to make come cheaper tickets available, not least because sports fans here will be saving their money for a holiday in Brazil for the World Cup. I bet you the gate wasn’t all that expensive for the Chavez fight

@Boxtradamus

You’re wrong. Froch didn’t change his tune because of the IBF. Again, Hearn offered the fight to Groves for 25% before the IBF came out and mandated it for a 215/85 split. You’d know if you’d been following things closely, but whatever… can’t be bothered to bicker, especially with people who WRITE like THIS.

Posted February 14, 2014 7:13 am 


GingerWhinger

Flydog – I agree,i think the result of this fight is based mostly on what Froch has left in the tank.In the first fight,i couldn’t believe how bad Froch looked-slower than ever,easier to hit than ever and he just looked like he wasn’t really there.I really hope he just had a bad night and can beat Groves and line up a rematch with Ward then bow out with a who’s who SMW resume and big bank balance with his health intact.Groves is still just 25 and has room for further improvement.Give him a year or so,the right trainer and a world class conditioning coach and I think he’ll be ready to take Ward.That’s how good George Groves is.But first he needs to eat some humble pie and realise he still has flaws that need ironing out.

Posted February 14, 2014 7:07 am 


flydog

Like the rest of you guys I’m happy this re-match is happening. I expect Froch to be properly switched on this time and to give Groves his due respect. Froch looked piss-poor the first time…old, slow and his feet were all over the place. If he can’t perform better this time then he is well and truly on the slide. I don’t see how Groves can do much better since he had one of the easiest targets ever seen available to him last time they fought. If Froch tightens things up and gets that jab back in Groves’ face then I’d make him favourite again. I’m sure Groves has plenty left but this fight for me is about what Froch has left after a long hard career!!

Posted February 14, 2014 6:07 am 


GingerWhinger

Did Bill phanco even watch the fight? Thought not.ESB,when can you get some decent writers on here? Froch will come in better shape this time,both physically,mentally and with a better game plan.Groves will be either be more cautious or more aggressive.The former will see a close fight for the first 9 rounds,then groves will gas around 10 for Froch to close the show.The latter will see Groves trying to knock Carl out at every opportunity,only to result in getting knocked out himself.Like others have said here,it’s going to be a terrific rematch,but it’s a shame one of these guys has to lose.Just fantastic that we have two world class SMW that are in the top 3.Froch’s weakness is his inability to change style and gameplan.Grove’s weakness is his exaggerated sense of self confidence.I still give Froch the edge,unless the first fight was showing us that he’s on the slide.Hope not.If Groves does manage to win,it would be best if it’s against an A Game version of Froch.

Posted February 14, 2014 5:50 am 


Rustybucket

Yep, very poor, dreadfully distorted description of the ending.

Posted February 14, 2014 5:27 am 


Steven

Bloody hell is this writer for real. Froch bumped groves to ropes???That’s why groves face was in bits. He was getting smashed up.

Posted February 14, 2014 4:49 am 


Theoneandonly

Froch to win by KO in the rematch. Groves won’t even get a knockdown this time round.. The ref should’ve let the fight carry on last time as I think Froch would’ve ko’d groves within the next 2 rounds.

Posted February 14, 2014 3:24 am 


BEARS

Sr beat that one black dude in the last 3 seconds of that one fight though and that WAS AWESOME……..the ref actually stopped it. there was 3 seconds left in the 12 round fight and STOPPED..i wonder if that is the latest stoppage or if there are any later in history

Posted February 14, 2014 3:14 am 


TARK

Chavez Sr never really fought anyone but Pernell Whitaker… Oscar De La Hoya… Frankie Randall… and Kostya Tszyu.

Out of those 6 fights he never won one.

He was a lot better than Chavez Jr though.. The only thing Chavez has is a chin. He certainly doesn’t have any desire or character, or a jab.

Posted February 14, 2014 3:07 am 


Ray Ray

Froch 2 win more impressive than 1st up. Froch took him lightly and still won. Froch will b ready 2 rumble from the get go 2nd time around.

Posted February 14, 2014 1:15 am 


te tumbo

FIGHT AFICIONADO, i won’t forget that Chavez v. Haugen bout either. a young and unknown Trinidud was on that same fight-card. anyway, it was a promotional plateau for Chavez who gave fight-fans their money’s-worth with a sustained beating of Haugen. best line of the night was Haugen’s post-fight response to being reminded of his “all he’s fought are Tia-Juana cab drivers” comment before the fight: “those must’ve been some pretty tough cab drivers” became his informed assessment following the fight.

Posted February 14, 2014 1:08 am 


Carl Froch

Told you I wasn’t a coward.

Posted February 14, 2014 1:02 am 


te tumbo

i was looking forward to Froch v. Chavez before Froch called it a career but Groves is deserving of a rematch. still hope that Froch sticks around to give Junior a proper gut- and chin-check before he does retire. Btw, I do think Froch will make quicker work of Groves this time around. Groves deserves that too.

Posted February 14, 2014 1:01 am 


TS

Eddie Hearn, Froch v Groves.

youtube.com/watch?v=sOGhuhC4AF0

Posted February 13, 2014 11:23 pm 


Billy

Groves wins by KO

Posted February 13, 2014 11:15 pm 


TS

Groves v Froch, Froch took the storm from Groves, Groves was gone by the 9th round.

youtube.com/watch?v=uqs1YXfdtGE

Posted February 13, 2014 11:07 pm 


TS

Groves has got the rematch, he will get beat again, Groves is a cry baby and a moaner, Groves tried to knock out Froch, the build up and the first round, great punch, Froch got up took a couple more before the end of the first round and went on to take some more punches, Groves could not knock Froch out, it’s a 12 round fight, not an 8 round fight, Groves was worn out by the 9th round, Froch was just knock him out bad, the ref done Groves a favour,.

Posted February 13, 2014 10:00 pm 


TARK

This pundit says.., “It was controversial because Froch threw a flurry of shots with almost every punch missing.”

Froch was connecting and Groves was in trouble… just not enough trouble to stop it yet. It was a little premature but I doubt if Groves could have come back. Froch was coming on.

If you think Groves wasn’t getting hit, check out his face following the fight because it looked like a slab of meat. This was a vicious brawl. Groves can hit a little, but he’s no boxer — and not physically as strong or tough as Froch, who is also no boxer. Carl walked straight into a right hand.

Posted February 13, 2014 9:55 pm 


TS

Boxtradamus, don’t have an eppy.

Posted February 13, 2014 9:47 pm 


Boxtradamus

Martin- Froch wanted to face Chavez Jr. until the IBF mandated a Groves rematch. They gave a deadline before the Fight goes to purse bid and thats why they got the deal done before the deadline. Froch wanted Chavez Jr. not Groves. IBF forced his hand. Follow Boxing more closely. Froch had said all along that he wasn’t giving Groves a rematch. The IBF made him change his TUNE.

Posted February 13, 2014 9:30 pm 


TS

Groves to a degree, good fighter, but he has a degree into how to get knocked out,

youtube.com/watch?v=Pgqa3cVOxUc

Posted February 13, 2014 9:06 pm 


TS

I remember that, the Azteca stadium, Haugen v Chavez, watched it on Sky, Chavez was fighting near on every month then.

Posted February 13, 2014 7:53 pm 


Fight Aficionado

“HINT FOR EDDIE HEARN: CHEAPER SEATS> MORE PEOPLE> BIGGEST EVER CROWD FOR A BOXING MATCH!!” – Agree they need to sell decently priced seats to eclipse 50,000. But it won’t touch Chavez vs Haugen in the mid 90s that drew 100,000 fans to Azteca Stadium in Mexico City. That legendary card also had one of my faves Michael Nunn and another title holder fight in separate bouts. Epic night of boxing. They don’t do that anymore.

Posted February 13, 2014 7:27 pm 


TS

Froch will get on his single geared bike for training, he won’t be on his bike for the fight, if Groves gets on his bike in the fight, it will be downhill for him.

Posted February 13, 2014 6:59 pm 


Martin

I doubt they’ll get more tha 50,000 for this fight, not at the prices they charge.

HINT FOR EDDIE HEARN: CHEAPER SEATS> MORE PEOPLE> BIGGEST EVER CROWD FOR A BOXING MATCH!!

Posted February 13, 2014 6:47 pm 


Auzbox

Great rematch, be real good to see these two battle it out again.

Posted February 13, 2014 6:39 pm 


Fight Aficionado

They’re talking about this gate possibly breaking the 50,000 fans that attended Hatton and Calzaghe bouts. They want to put it in a big English Premier League football stadium. The promoter Eddie Hearn reportedly has targeted Arsenal’s Emirates Stadium, The Millennium in Cardiff or Wembley. These places seat 60,000 to 80,000. Legit Superfight in the UK.

Posted February 13, 2014 6:38 pm 


TS

Groves will have to fight Froch, he will be beat up if he doesn’t, he threw everything at Froch in the first fight and tired and got stopped, Groves will be knocked out quicker if he tries to play it safe.

Posted February 13, 2014 6:28 pm 


Tooth

Alternatively, he could go for an early Knockout, since he knocked him down in the first round of the last fight and Froch was in trouble.

If he goes down that route, I hope Froch can hang on and that Groves punches himself out cuz then its Froch’s fight to win.

Posted February 13, 2014 5:31 pm 


Tooth

Can’t see Froch winning it – Wish he didn’t have to take it. The supposed 2nd best fighter at the weight will now no longer be the best in his own country.

When he beat Kessler the second time, Kessler had gotten worse since their first fight. Groves should be better second time around whereas Froch will older and with yet another war to his list from the first fight.

Surely Groves will not be stupid enough this time to go toe to toe – He’s already felt what happens when he tries that.

Can’t see it as being as exciting as the first. The sensible thing for Groves to do would be to win the first six rounds similar to last time (though prolly without a KD) and the run for the last six, picking up a couple of rounds to take the fight.

Posted February 13, 2014 5:28 pm 


matthews

Froch didn’t want this rematch. The fans kind of shamed him into it, instead of the Chavez Jr. fight.

Posted February 13, 2014 5:10 pm 


detroitko

GROVES!!!

Posted February 13, 2014 4:54 pm 


Anonymous

Groves by KO

Posted February 13, 2014 4:44 pm 


eric

Fans realize one thing with froch vs groves 2.

Tough fights can get made.

Mayweathers need to take notes.

Posted February 13, 2014 4:39 pm 


eric

Froch now knows two things.

Groves can really box, much better than himself.

Groves can be hurt.

Maybe carl trys to pull a bute.

Posted February 13, 2014 4:37 pm 


Rustybucket

Groves needs to talk to Calzaghe on how to beat Froch, because if he does the same as last time he is going to be koed in less that 9 rounds.

Great fight though and I”m glad the rematch has been made.

Posted February 13, 2014 4:27 pm 


banjo

how do i become a sanctioning body? the WBB ( world banjo boxing ) champion will be the most respected champion. i will charge boxers and promoters to be associated with me.

the grand illusion of substance

Posted February 13, 2014 4:25 pm 


Martin

@Boxtradamus

Froch wasn’t “forced” by anyone. Eddie Hearn had already made a better offer to Groves than he ending up getting via the IBF route.

You should have known that in advance, oh prescient one.

Posted February 13, 2014 4:19 pm 


Boxtradamus

The IBF is still the best organization in Boxing. They forced Froch to take the rematch or be stripped. NICE job.

Posted February 13, 2014 3:57 pm 


WHAT!?!

So Froch finally gets the chance to finish off his devastating KO of Groves, just as the first fight would of ended.

Posted February 13, 2014 3:42 pm 


Martin

Anyway, folk will know I’m not the real Amir Khan. I can spell for a start… Was taking the p iss out of him on the other thread.

Posted February 13, 2014 3:40 pm 


Martin

Ooops, sorry, that was me, not Amir…

Posted February 13, 2014 3:39 pm 


Amir Khan

Hey Seanie, stop butting in will ya? I asked Eddie first!

Manchester City stadium it is….

Posted February 13, 2014 3:38 pm 


SeanieP

Can we please have the fight at Upton Park Eddie.

Posted February 13, 2014 3:31 pm 


Pinhead

Fascinating stuff with these two. Neither of them give an inch in the verbals and of course we know they dont in the ring. This has got all boxing fans talking and pumped . CANNOT WAIT!!!

Posted February 13, 2014 2:57 pm 


MJames

Brilliant. Froch will KO him in round 10.

Posted February 13, 2014 1:54 pm 


Fight Aficionado

Excellent news. I guess some of us – myself included – jumped the gun on vilifying Froch for not agreeing to the rematch earlier. We should keep in mind that high stakes fights for big money don’t usually get agreed to quickly.

Posted February 13, 2014 1:44 pm 


Martin

elite-level fights I’ve ever witnessed, even …. I was going to write “most of us have ever seen” … Can anyone else think of a boxer who has taken so many really tough fights one after the other? I can’t.

Posted February 13, 2014 1:40 pm 


Martin

@punch

“If Groves boxes intelligently and stay away from Froch using his jab and footwork to keep Froch at bay then he wins, if not this may likely be repeat and not revenge.”

Yep, I pretty much agree with that, and I’m rooting for them both too.

If Groves wins by using superior speed, footwork, and all-round skill/ring generalship, then great. Froch will have just lost to a better fighter, and it’ll be no shame, because it will show that Groves is really something special. No one can deny that Froch has had a superb career, with the longest run of back-to-back, tough, elite-level fights most I’ve ever witnessed. So if that happens, I think Froch will still make it into the HOF, and we will have another superb super-middleweight on the scene. We will also have Ward-Groves to look forward to — though it’ll be in the States, as we know, because Ward gets homesick (poor thing) and is deeply superstitious (he calls it “spirituality”, but it’s the same s hit).

However, if there’s going to be a knockout, I see Froch rather than Groves pulling it off. I really can’t imagine Froch getting KO’d, despite that early knockdown in the last fight, and Groves needs to be careful not to punch himself out again.

Posted February 13, 2014 1:38 pm 


PEEJ

Andre Ward is also saying I am the champ and nobody wants to fight me cause they know they can’t beat me. They just like to mention my name to get publicity. lol. All roads still lead through Ward if you actually want to be the champ at 168. If you like being 2nd or any other place at 168 thats fine. But to be the man you got to beat Ward.

Posted February 13, 2014 1:29 pm 


Martin

The only problem I have with this fight is that I don’t know who I want to win! Having followed Froch for so long, I can’t say I want him to lose: it’d be a bad way to end his career (though I suppose he could call for a rematch…). On the other hand, Froch will retire soon, and it would be good to have (yet another) great British super-middleweight to follow in the near future, so I don’t much want Groves to lose either! (Of course, Groves could still go on to do really well at super-middleweight, and probably would, but two losses to Froch on his record would dampen my hopes for him quite a bit…).

So I don’t know: I think I’ll feel sorry for whoever loses this one…

Anyway, it will be a great fight, no doubt, and it’s really a 50/50 for me, so I guess my prediction for now is a DRAW (in which case there’d be a third fight. I suppose!).

I wish them both the best of luck with their preparations, and let’s hope they both show each other some respect in the build up: the childish stuff (from Groves) and the sneering contempt (from Froch) all got a bit much in the build up to the last one, for me. I much prefer it when fighters are mutually respectful, like e.g. Froch and Kessler were. (Of course, Eddie Hearn may love all the mutual needling etc., and perhaps it would help to sell tickets, but I could really do without it…)

Posted February 13, 2014 1:25 pm 


anonymous

Meanwhile in a country with a population 10 times the size, Andre Ward asks “Why does nobody want to watch ME fight?”

Posted February 13, 2014 1:09 pm 


punch

This could easily be the fight of the year. I’m rooting for both men. The last time, I picked Groves to win after weathering the storm. whilst I think he was on his way to victory when the fight was stopped though controversially. I’m happy we will see these two settle the score once and for all. You’ve got to respect Froch’s grit and he’s punch resistance hence I’m not picking against him this time around. I’m sitting this one out as a lot depends on if Groves has learnt ffrom his mistakes in their last encounter. If Groves boxes intelligently and stay away from Froch using his jab and footwork to keep Froch at bay then he wins, if not this may likely be repeat and not revenge.

Posted February 13, 2014 12:51 pm 


Boxing Barlow

But fair play to Froch, he must really fancy his chances, great fight. What matters is the fans, Froch fans and Groves got what we really wanted and thats the rematch.

Posted February 13, 2014 12:49 pm 


Boxing Barlow

Whats crow? as in the bird?

Posted February 13, 2014 12:48 pm 


the commentator

To those who questioned Froch’s warrior reputation during the period where it was speculated that he didn’t want any part of a rematch with Groves……….EAT CROW….

Posted February 13, 2014 12:44 pm 


PEEJ

It looked to me like Groves was on the way to being stopped. Though the stoppage was a bad one and there is a good chance that he could of survived also. Bad stoppage and the rematch is definitely warranted. Glad it is getting made.

Posted February 13, 2014 12:41 pm 


Boxing Barlow

Suprising people different opinions on the first fight. My take on it was Froch was suprised big time by Groves’ ability and Groves won the first 6 rounds easily. But by the mid way point of the fight it was Groves who was suprised how easy he could get at Froch and also how he was able to take Froch’s punches. At that point he decided to just stand toe to toe with Froch and that was his mistake. By round nine he was not on the verge of being knocked out and it was a a bad stoppage. But Groves was gassing out big time. I dont think Froch would have knocked Groves out if the fight had of continued but I do think he would have dominated the final rounds.

Posted February 13, 2014 12:40 pm 


OneInchPunch

For me it’s the right thing for Froch to do…. only hope Groves knows what he up against this time. as i think it will be a different Carl Froch from the first bell.

Posted February 13, 2014 12:19 pm 


Mr gav

So glad froch took this fight on his reputation was very much on the line if he didn’t take this fight on. I will be buying this on ppv very excited just don’t know who will win. And ps khan v mayweather if you think I will pay for your ppv over froch groves you can suck my balls

Posted February 13, 2014 12:13 pm 


Martin

FINALLY!! A fight in 2014 that’s really worth looking forward to!

This will be massive. Can’t wait!!

Make it Manchester please, Eddy: neutral ground, fantastic crowds, and (best of all) I don’t have to travel!

Seriously glad this is going ahead. A good start to the summer!

Posted February 13, 2014 12:03 pm 


Jaguar

Froch for the win. He underestimated Groves and got a pasting for the 5/6 rounds, Groves gave his best, had his chance but could not maximise it.

Froch was clearly coming on strong.

I expect a similar scenario for the rematch, but Froch not being as careless as he was.

Excellent news for British boxing, potentially the biggest domestic fight ever! Happy days for boxing!

Posted February 13, 2014 11:53 am 


Boxing Barlow

I seriously cant wait for this fight! Its gonna be the biggest UK fight of all time. I can see Groves winning easily this time round as I think he will have learnt from his mistakes in the first fight and will pace himself more and outbox Froch while conserving energy for what Froch calls the ‘championship rounds’. The only reason Groves started to gas so badly in the first fight was due to the fact he gave Froch such a bad whooping in the first 8 rounds.

Posted February 13, 2014 11:47 am 



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