manny is a drug cheat and mayweather is an a-holePosted February 21, 2014 12:14 pm
Manny Pacquiao sets terms on all fights. He is always the draw world wide. The man is the biggest super star boxing has ever had bar none. Mayweather doesn’t draw, it’s his oppositions fan base as always. Manny has international drawing power like no other. He is boxing’s ONLY 8 division boxing champion. His life story is the most unique, and he truly caries boxing on his shoulders. Mayweather is old news. His ridiculous demands and excuses fall flat on their face. Manny is dangerous in every single fight, and when he stops Bradley in dramatic fashion, watch the world erupt with excitement. Also, watch Mayweather run for cover. Manny Pacquiao’s popularity as always tops Mayweathr by miles as does the respect and admiration people have for him. No one ever dictates ant kind of demand in a fight against Manny except Manny Pacquiao. Fighters come to his table.Posted February 21, 2014 11:38 am
Maidana please champ. We love you Floyd.Posted February 21, 2014 9:46 am
any black person who looks up to Mayweather as a hero or a role model is an idiot. Mayweather is a piece of trash.Posted February 21, 2014 7:48 am
Super Villain maybe ….. I don’t think anyone could claim Floyd was a “hero”. Trashy, woman-beater, spoilt, flash, crude certainly …. but not a hero. Great fighter with great skills …. but as a person not so great.Posted February 21, 2014 7:40 am
This pundit doesn’t know Boxing History. He says…, “Roy Jones Jr. didn’t fight Gerald McClellan, Chris Eubank, Nigel Benn, Steve Collins, Dariusz Michalczewski or Julian Jackson.”
GTFOOH… Dariusz Michalczewski was beaten by super slow Julio Gonzalez in Germany…
So much for Roy ducking DM… DM never had a shot in Hell of beating Roy and never negotiated in good faith to fight him.
The rest of those guys you mention, all got beaten up and they didn’t want to fight Roy… Antonio Tarver was the ONLY guy Roy actively ducked… If you’re as great fighter like Roy you know when somebody can kick your ass—but I think pride made Roy fight Tarver. Roy never could handle AT’s unfathomable left handers.. Tarver had a dozen ways to throw them.
Mayweather sees the same thing in Lara—a supremely tricky left that’s hard to solve.. Talking about Golovkin and Martinez is sheer stupidity.. They’re too damned big for Floyd.. But Lara is Floyd’s mandatory challenger so let’s talk about Lara.. Pacquiao was Floyd’s mandatory too.. Another guy with a tricky left—and Roy Jones Jr. can tell you all about that.Posted February 21, 2014 2:43 am
WTF???? This reporter wanted Roy Jones to face every guy on the planet!!!!! We’re just asking Floyd to fight pacquiao and that’s it!!!!!Posted February 20, 2014 9:08 pm
By Floyd not saying who he is fighting next only adding to the hype and people are catching felling crying excited mad waiting to see who it will be. It brilliant on his part because there is so much talk and fuss over it. Now it seems to me whoever he choices more people will watch Kahn or Miadna because he started a frenzy that is getting bigger everyday. Look no one even cares about Manny he has totally changed the game brilliant business move.Posted February 20, 2014 8:32 pm
Greatness inside the boxing ring comes to a fighter that is special. The great fighter does things that others can’t quite duplicate. He does things effortlessly and without having to think. The attributes he possesses (power, speed, athleticism, movement) are gifts he was born with. Manny Pacquiao is a great fighter that does things that leave boxing fans in awe. He can punch with the power of an earthquake. He has hand speed that rivals that of a striking cobra. He has the graceful foot movement of the great football player, Barry Sanders comes to mind. And he has the aura of invincibility that gives him the chance to beat anyone at any time. Manny Pacquiao will grace us with his presence on April 12th in Las Vegas. He has returned to take back a title that was unjustly stolen from him by Timothy Bradley with the assistance of the ring judges. The boxing world is once again alive, filled with anticipation and excitement to see greatness in the ring. Manny Pacquiao will bring in the movie stars, professional athletes, musicians and world leaders to the fight. Any Pacquiao fight bests the World Series, NBA Finals, Stanley Cup or the World Cup. The magnitude of excitement reaches all four corners of the world. Those fortunate fans that come to Las Vegas get a double treat as Manny will likely perform his celebrated hit song like “Sometimes When We Touch.” Manny is a boxer, singer, actor, but more importantly an entertainer that aims to please fans, which he consistently does. There will be no more Manny Pacquiao’s once this legendary fighting machine retires for the squared circle. Manny has fought the best of his time and beaten them all. He is respected and admired by all of his boxing peers. Fans enjoy watching his fights because they know there is action, excitement and they are watching the ONLY 8 division boxing champion in history. This by itself classifies him as the best ever. If only one man can reach the top of mountain, every other man falls short. Manny Pacquiao is the only man to reach a little higher than all the rest. Is he the greatest ever? Quite possibly, but I will not become a braggart and tarnish any part of Manny Pacquiao. I will say that he is arguably the best of all time, and leave it at that. Manny Pacquiao is without a doubt one of the most influential people ever. He reaches people of all walks of life. Manny Pacquiao is quite unique as he personifies greatness inside and outside the ring. The pugilist and the person are both one in spirit. This is a special man that encompasses greatness. Trust me on this. Manny is one of a kind. Manny’s the best!Posted February 20, 2014 7:41 pm
BOXIE Do you remember the advertisment by the the old United Negro College Fund that said, “A mind is a terrible thing to waste”?? Well, for some reason it reminds me of you. Anyway… you never fail to amaze me, son. But, to keep this in the proper order, allow me to be the first to congratulate you for making the Idiot All Star Team and for letting the whole wide world know that M. Ali’s engaged extra marital affairs!! “Thanks” for info, mr. prophet man. Despite your pompous allegations, Mr. Ali was never accused of beating his wife nor any other person aside from his ring opponents, unlike Floyd, whether you wish to accept it or not. In one of the MANY books and countless articles I’ve read on his life nothing is ever mentioned of him bashing his spouses. One particular incident is reported in a couple of the books, the one in Manila where his wife boarded a jet and and went to Ali’s hotel room. Yes, she did in fact call Ali out on his current affair behind locked doors and the commotion erupted. Nowhere does it say that Ali beat her up like you allege. As a matter of fact, one The Great One’s bodyguards was quoted as saying that it was actually her that beat up on him. According to his daughter, he was never known to beat her mother and that as far as him beating a woman beater, she’s never known that to be true. Your slip is showing, dude. Which slip? ahhh… Didn’t I already tell you in my previous comment?? ahhhh… Are you still trying to feel better about yourselfPosted February 20, 2014 7:25 pm
“ANYWAY… nuff said. I hope I’ve been of some assistance.”
EZ E, I think we should just kill him before he multiplies. :)Posted February 20, 2014 6:57 pm
BOXTRA In your “legendary mind” I see that you also “solved” & “cracked” the murder case of the Honorable Malcolm X by “OFFICIALLY” declaring that Ali’s entourage was involved in the MURDER the great Mr. Malcolm X!!?? Did you let the New York Police Department in on this?? Where were you when the investigation was going on?? Did you let Malcolm’s widow know about your revelations?? Or… is it that being a Muslim was enough for YOU to blame Ali and ALL Muslims alike? I’ve read books and many articles related to Malcolm’s death and NO where is Ali’s entourage/associates mentioned UNLESS.. being a member of the Muslim (Black?) faith make him guilty by association (?) Huh?? Oh, I’m sure that you can explain this but allow me to warn you that resorting to this rather disgustingly cheap rhetoric will make you sound/look AWFULLY DESPERATE to seek recognition at all cost. Shame on you!! Quite childish. Sort of like the TONYA HARDING of ESB!! AAAAAANNNND…. working in the Crisis Intervention field for the last couple of decades makes me wonder about you and your SUPER energetic domestic violence accusations of Mr. Muhammad Ali, and Mr. Robinson, who we already know about, dude. You honestly sound like you’re auto projecting yourself. Yes, it’s mechanism commonly practiced by offenders of the same conduct (in this case, domestic violence) to help them feel better about themselves and to alleviate the guilt they try to suppress. Most experts would readily agree with ME on this. Your keyboard bullying on weaker/lesser knowledgeable ESB members rather reinforces your exposed abusive image. ANYWAY… nuff said. I hope I’ve been of some assistance.Posted February 20, 2014 6:29 pm
I have to go through this “test’ stuff to avoid having my comments wiped out.Posted February 20, 2014 5:44 pm
Truthfulness needs no comments.Posted February 20, 2014 5:43 pm
Poor hec dog no one responds to your rants get a clue ass clown. Your boy is washed up and his ppv sales prove it. The public have spoken people don’t care about the past only today and the last time Manny beat a good fighter was himself as he jerked off. Cotto is 09 was the last guy worth anything he beat but again he was dehydrated…Posted February 20, 2014 3:14 pm
Greatness inside the boxing ring comes to a fighter that is special. The great fighter does things that others can’t quite duplicate. He does things effortlessly and without having to think. The attributes he possesses (power, speed, athleticism, movement) are gifts he was born with. Manny Pacquiao is a great fighter that does things that leave boxing fans in awe. He can punch with the power of an earthquake. He has hand speed that rivals that of a striking cobra. He has the graceful foot movement of the great football player, Barry Sanders comes to mind. And he has the aura of invincibility that gives him the chance to beat anyone at any time. Manny Pacquiao will grace us with his presence on April 12th in Las Vegas. He has returned to take back a title that was unjustly stolen from him by Timothy Bradley with the assistance of the ring judges. The boxing world is once again alive, filled with anticipation and excitement to see greatness in the ring. Manny Pacquiao will bring in the movie stars, professional athletes, musicians and world leaders to the fight. Any Pacquiao fight bests the World Series, NBA Finals, Stanley Cup or the World Cup. The magnitude of excitement reaches all four corners of the world. Those fortunate fans that come to Las Vegas get a double treat as Manny will likely perform his celebrated hit song like “Sometimes When We Touch.” Manny is a boxer, singer, actor, but more importantly an entertainer that aims to please fans, which he consistently does. There will be no more Manny Pacquiao’s once this legendary fighting machine retires for the squared circle. Manny has fought the best of his time and beaten them all. He is respected and admired by all of his boxing peers. Fans enjoy watching his fights because they know there is action, excitement and they are watching the ONLY 8 division boxing champion in history. This by itself classifies him as the best ever. If only one man can reach the top of mountain, every other man falls short. Manny Pacquiao is the only man to reach a little higher than all the rest. Is he the greatest ever? Quite possibly, but I will not become a braggart and tarnish any part of Manny Pacquiao. I will say that he is arguably the best of all time, and leave it at that. Manny Pacquiao is without a doubt one of the most influential people ever. He reaches people of all walks of life. Manny Pacquiao is quite unique as he personifies greatness inside and outside the ring. The pugilist and the person are both one in spirit. This is a special man that encompasses greatness. Trust me on this. Manny is one of a kind. Manny’s the best!Posted February 20, 2014 2:21 pm
All I know is that I won’t be paying to see Mayweather’s next fight. The man and his performances just aren’t worth it.Posted February 20, 2014 11:16 am
Pac’s Mama: What do you want for dinner?
Who the hell listens to the Jew. Arum is a bitter old bastard who cannot stand the fact that a black man refuses to bow to him. I hope he continues to give Arum, Manny and whoever else who dont like it an invitation to kiss his ass. He makes 150 mil a year. He needs no one fighter to prove anything his fights still sell out vegas, People say not for long if he dont fight Manny? Well Alverez is not Manny and it grossed over 300 million, . An espn writer said Floyd has too much power? I guess its safe to say its wrong in the eyes of some when a black man owes and makes his own decisions and calls his own shots and is not dictated by the powers that be? But it ok for white folk to have power no one ever accused Arum of having too much power or these major corporations. Manny is the one who walked away in 09 for his own reasons blood test he wanted 50/50 whatever. And theres idiots say Floyd knew he wouldn’t take the deal thats why he made it? I know Floyd is good but I don’t think he is a mind reader. lol Second I guess he is supposed to chase Manny and keep making him offers when Floyd is the champ, Manny even stating that Floyd needs to call me shows there arrogance. Hell and if the deal he offered Manny back in 09 was so bad why in the hell are guys lining up for less. Poor pactards.Posted February 20, 2014 5:40 am
Quit justifying Floyd ducking that beatdown with tired excuses.Posted February 20, 2014 4:54 am
Ah yes… The old- “They won’t gimme props anyway, so why fight?”, excuse. LOL!!Posted February 20, 2014 4:52 am
Mr Arum calling Floyd Mayweather a disgrace is right spot on. Why does anyone listen to a fighter that has been avoiding the best fighter in the world for years. Floyd’s camp and family have been made their fears known when it comes to Manny Pacquiao. The documented history of things said by Floyd, Floyd Sr and Roger all point to the same conclusion. Floyd doesn’t want to take the chance of losing, but ore importantly of being seriously hurt. Manny Pacquiao is a powerful man inside that ring. He has always had the speed, power, athleticism and overall natural instincts of a fighter. The Mayweathers are fully aware of that Floyd will fight a legendary fighter that can match him for speed of foot and hand. They know that Floyd will have serious problems with a man that has better speed, power and feet than he does. Floyd has had problems with lefties even though he has beat them. Manny Pacquiao isn’t your normal southpaw. He uses hand, head and foot feints that throw off a fighters timing. especially the timing of a counter puncher like Mayweather. Apollo Creed’s word’s in Rocky 2 sums up Floyd’s position. Apollo was asking his trainer “what are you afraid of?” Apollo Creeds trainer answers “He’s all wrong for us baby.” And that is the simple truth. Manny is all wrong for Floyd, and Floyd knows it. Manny Pacquiao is carrying the burden of putting Floyd Mayweather in his place, and boxing fans all over the world are clamoring for this fight. Still Floyd does not want to take the risk. Manny Pacquiao is a monster in the ring, and he is salivating at the mouth hoping Floyd will find the courage to fight. Manny already answered all of those ridiculous ped ruors by being tested in his last fight, and he passed with flying colors. he has now agreed to WADA testing with Bradley, and yes, he will pass with flying colors. Manny Pacquiao is a picture of greatness. He’s beat them all. He is the only 8 division boxing champion ever. He is currently carrying boxing on his shoulders. Las Vegas is already wanting to build and expand more housing specifically because of Manny “Mania” and his highly anticipated ring return to his adopted home town. Las Vegas will be filled with professional athletes, movie stars, dignitaries and the world will stop for a brief moment as Manny makes is ring entrance. The man has an aura of invincibility. He creates a buzz of excitement and anticipation. Elvis, Obama, landing on the moon all fall a step short when it comes to matching up against Manny Pacquiao. The fighter will be here soon. Manny “Pac Man” Pacquiao is coming to take back a title that was stolen from him. He’s a bit angry, upset and hungry. I feel sorry for Timothy Bradley. Please keep the women and children away from the TV sets because this fight will turn ugly quickly. Trust me, Manny will be devastating. Manny is the bestPosted February 20, 2014 4:52 am
Floyds Mama spit some knowledge about styles prove points as to way you fell the way you do. Every post shows how ignorant and immature you really are. If you a many nutthugger fine but at least post something worth debating over. Ass clownPosted February 20, 2014 4:06 am
get over it
What have you done lately ??? Mannys last creditable win against a worthy fighter was Cotto in 09 while he was dehydrated since then who has he really beat worth talking about? Everyone else was either bums or he lost against. Hell anyone can look good against Rios the jury is still out on Manny if he wants a fight with Floyd he is going to have to step his game up KO Bradley. But Arum already said he wants a Marquez 5 no way Manny wins both fights. He struggles against counter punchers and guys at his own weight.Posted February 20, 2014 4:02 am
If you think Bradley won you had better take up a new sport. You go on about Marquez KO like its the only one ever. Pacs of hatton was just as good but your a hater and I feel dumber for reading the crap you writePosted February 20, 2014 3:12 am
Not sure what weight 152 is. Pretty sure it’s 154Posted February 20, 2014 3:10 am
Hell anyone Floyd picks is cherry picking he beat Canelo a undefeated fighter at 152lbs and they claimed he was weight drained. How can a guy cherry pick undefeated fighters? When Floyd beat Marquez after a long lay off and they said he was too small. This is the same guy that KTFO the great Manny but when Floyd whopped him he was cherry picked. Manny beat Oscar, Cotto, Hatton and Shane. Floyd beat all these guys as well but when he did it they were cherry picked poor retards think Manny is the only guy worthy. And when Floyd wins they make excuses as to why he won. And when Manny looses that make up reason why he lost. He was cheated out the Bradley fight. And Marquez got luck and he was on P.E.D.s poor pactardsPosted February 20, 2014 2:26 am
Good article. Mayweather detractors know this, they just don’t care.Posted February 20, 2014 12:18 am
Gonzo= JackoffPosted February 20, 2014 12:00 am
Fight Aficionado=Jackazz redneckPosted February 19, 2014 11:57 pm
Khan ain’t a welter either, hope he picks him so I can use it right back at youPosted February 19, 2014 11:05 pm
Yeh boxtra and what is maidana and khan p4p yeh nothingPosted February 19, 2014 11:04 pm
i don’t know what kind of reasoning this “boxing aficionado” means, he is writing hypothetical articles about floyd defeating high profile fighters, and yet avoiding the ” fact” that floyd is avoiding fight with pacquiao. Wake up boy! it’s true that “it takes to to tango” and manny is doing his part to make the fight happen and floyd making excuses to avoid it.Posted February 19, 2014 10:41 pm
Hello there boxtramonk3y! How you doing?Posted February 19, 2014 10:31 pm
Rios was #0 P4P a NON CHAMP and not even a Welter.Posted February 19, 2014 10:27 pm
Dumbo he is fighting #3 p4p you fool and Marquez was #5 p4p so I think that means he was fighting good competitionPosted February 19, 2014 9:50 pm
The majority of fans see Mayweather as the number one fighter in the sport. He’s no super hero, and he doesn’t have to be. This is real life not make believe like some Pacquiao fans seem to think. These guys are fighters nothing more.Posted February 19, 2014 9:45 pm
meanwhile, PUNKuiao* pretends that he can’t find a single competitive matchup in the deepest division in boxing other than a 40-something Marquez and “Money” Mayweather . . . what a fraud.Posted February 19, 2014 9:28 pm
“There’s lots of good opponents in addition to Pacquiao he ducked” Name ONE? Just a single fighter that fight-fans were demanding Floyd face? Pacquiao* as*ed-himself out their showdown by refusing to harmless and MUTUALLY-Applied testing. otherwise, what threat to Floyd’s “0″ did he avoid? Thanks.Posted February 19, 2014 9:26 pm
“Roy Jones Jr. didn’t fight Gerald McClellan, Chris Eubank, Nigel Benn, Steve Collins, Dariusz Michalczewski or Julian Jackson.” – Actually that does tarnish Roy Jones’ legacy. Remember the “Roycott” happened because he kept fighting subway cops instead of the guys you list plus Michael Nunn and the Bhop rematch. Same goes with Floyd. There’s lots of good opponents in addition to Pacquiao he ducked.Posted February 19, 2014 8:54 pm
Gonzo the Dragonborn aka The New Edgar Allen Poe
Roberto Di Monkouse.. Why do I make this claim? Quite simply because it is rooted in irrefutable, incontestable cast-iron stone cold fact.
As for the rest of your post.. I’m afraid you’re going to have to try and entice some other mentalist to join you for a dance. I’m way past playing the Pac vs Floyd saga. There was dinosaurs still roaming the Earth when I grew out of that s-h-!-t. I have about as much interest in all that bollocks as I do watching those leaked s3x tapes of Floyd noshing off 50 Cents in the backseat of his roller. You know, the ones where all Floyd’s big burly bodyguards bukk@ke over them at the end.
PS. I don’t appreciate the play on words of your handle. It’s more than a little irreverent. Mocking the dead is a step too far. From here on in, you will go by the handle Bob Monkhouse OBE. Failure to do so will result in you finding yourself being stripped stark bollock naked, suspended on a rope by your ankles, and lowered head first to your death into a giant vat of Dr. Dre’s piping hot feces. Make sure you understand that loud and clear you g-a-y Algerian w@nk3r, Ok?Posted February 19, 2014 7:10 pm
Mayweather is technical master he fights intelligently methodicaly the best defense ive seen and that can be boring to watch but has resulted in a undefeated record.
He won’t be able to do interviews after he retires. All anyone will ask him about is PAC. Then he either won’t do them at all or he will make them not ask about it, and say if you do I’m walking as he has done before hahahaPosted February 19, 2014 5:41 pm
For a super headline he would need a fight with Pacquiao.Posted February 19, 2014 5:37 pm
For a super headline he would Pacquiao. Get it!!Posted February 19, 2014 5:31 pm
Just like Martinez knocked out Williams. Color doesn’t matter and it shouldn’t. Stay anonomous you racistPosted February 19, 2014 5:18 pm
Abdul Shakeel Al-Jabbar
Even we know Clay was mad for becoming a Muslim and that Nation of Islam junk. We ruined him!!Posted February 19, 2014 5:00 pm
this is how dum these white boys are ali was very close to malcom .x
he comes from a nice family.Posted February 19, 2014 4:34 pm
NO ONE on ESB chose to DO an article on it but Mayweather WON Fighter of the YEAR just as I predicted!!!!!! Kovalev and GGG had GOOD years but they didn’t beat ANY Top 10 P4P opponents while Floyd beat TWO. QUALITY trumps QUANTITY. Congrats to the FOY of 2013!!!!!!Posted February 19, 2014 4:19 pm
B.a.C.B.-NICE JOKE telling!!!! But JOKE telling is always LESSER than TRUTH telling and FACT stating. The TRUTH is that Floyd is not a Super Hero. He’s simply the GOAT in Boxing.Posted February 19, 2014 4:14 pm
“never involved in crimes, domestic abuse, battering both men and women, nor was his entourage involved acts of violence.”-This guy obviously doesn’t know MUCH about Ali OR his entourage. That’s one of the most FALSE statements that could have be written about him. Ali cheated on his wife and then BEAT her for calling him out on it as DID Sugar Ray Robinson. And Ali’s entourage or their associates KILLED Malcolm X. That’s called VIOLENCE.Posted February 19, 2014 4:11 pm
Boxtradamus aka Can’tBoxstradamus
Yes he IS a HERO!! The GREATEST HERO of ALL time!! Floyd is only ducking to save his OPPONENTS from PERMANENT DAMAGE!! Floyd cares enough to NOT televise a SLAUGHTER!! You can go to a MEAT PACKING plant to see a SLAUGHTER!! After my eternal BLOW JOB on these threads, Floyd’s MEAT will be packing THE GREATEST FIGHT Prophet brand FUDGE. I can FEEL it!Posted February 19, 2014 4:10 pm
Nope doesn’t come close to being a hero for me. But he is still the greatest fighter of his generationPosted February 19, 2014 3:33 pm
See same garbage dude always has to take my name. Weak. Can’t come up with his own screen name so has to use mine. TerriblePosted February 19, 2014 3:01 pm
Look my man, he aint no hero to all black America, not to me. Yeah, he a damn great fighter but dats as far as it go. Most brothers know he don’t want nuthin to wit Manny. I bet ya’ll Ray Leonard wudda took the fight in a New York minute, Whitaker and Chavez too, I mean Daddy Chavez, not his chump ass little boy.Posted February 19, 2014 2:34 pm
ANYONE NEED ANY ODD JOBS DOING? YOU WIN TWICE CAUSE I’M CHEAP AND YOU CAN KEEP ME OFF THIS SITE AND SAVE EVERYONE HAVING TO READ MY NONSENSE…Posted February 19, 2014 2:12 pm
Floyd a hero? To who? Vivek and Peej?Posted February 19, 2014 2:04 pm
Rizal Aguinaldo Bonifacio
One thing that puzzles me is the unwavering need of knowledgeable fans to argue with Pacnut Flips who know nothing about boxing except that a fellow Flip became popular in the sport. You can’t reason with illogical people. They don’t need proof, they hate facts, they only have faith and undying devotion and blind idolatry towards Pac. Arguing with Flip Pacnuts is like explaining the difference between red and blue to an inborn blind.Posted February 19, 2014 1:45 pm
Roberto Di Monkouse
@Gonzo the Dragonborn aka The New Edgar Allen Poe
Why do you claim that “the general consensus among 98% of boxing fans across the globe regarding whose fault it is Pac-Floyd never came off is that it’s Floyd’s fault”?
Manny Pacquiao owes Bob Arum money, which was why he signed a two year contract extension with Top Rank in 2012. At the time he chose to do this, Manny knew it would prevent fights against any Golden Boy fighters (such as Mayweather or Alvarez).
Manny Pacquiao isn’t tied to HBO, so there’s nothing stopping him fighting for Showtime. Manny Pacquiao’s promoter Top Rank (Bob Arum) insists that the Mayweather fight can only be made if it’s a joint PPV event promoted by Top Rank/Golden Boy and televised by Showtime/HBO.
Showtime won’t share the PPV pot with HBO, because there’s contractually no reason to do so.
The last time Showtime and HBO collaborated together for a joint pay-per-view event was for the Tyson-Lewis fight in 2002.
Golden Boy and Mayweather Jr. has gone on record to state that they won’t do business with Top Rank, mainly due to issues with Bob Arum.
Mayweather Jr. doesn’t want Bob Arum involved in the Pacquiao super-fight because he claims he still owes him money for the Gatti bout, as well as generally being underpaid and not matched against other HBO fighters when he was being promoted by him.
Floyd previously wouldn’t face Manny because Bob Arum and Pacquiao refused drug testing.
Pacquiao apparently refused a $40m offer to fight Mayweather because he (or really Bob Arum) wanted to split the PPV revenue 50/50. Floyd refused these demands because he considered himself the bigger draw (i.e. he sold more buys than Manny)… and wanted to be paid his worth.Posted February 19, 2014 1:24 pm
Roberto Di Monkouse
Why do you feel that Manny deserves a 50% share of the pot? Why do you feel that this is fair?
Let’s face it (to quote Vivek Wallace): Pacquiao only has one victory since 2011 (and hasn’t stopped an opponent since 2009); his finances and assets are few and frozen; and his body is changing as age sets in.
Mayweather has no obligation to pursue Pacquiao. He is making good money against other competitors, and has continued to dominate. Pacquiao has one victory in the past two years, and hasn’t been on a comparable level since slightly prior to that.Posted February 19, 2014 1:18 pm
Roberto Di Monkouse
It could easily be argued that Manny (or really Bob Arum) is being greedy demanding anywhere near a 50% share when the numbers simply don’t stack up. So why do many people criticise Floyd Mayweather Jr. for his money grabbing attitude and not Manny Pacquiao?Posted February 19, 2014 1:16 pm
Roberto Di Monkouse
The average pay-per-view buy-rate for Manny Pacquiao’s last three fights (against Timothy Bradley [950K], Juan Manuel Marquez [1.15m] and Brandon Rios [500K]), averaged only 867,000 buys.
In stark contrast, the average pay-per-view buy-rate for Floyd Mayweather Jr’s last three fights (against Miguel Cotto [1.5m], Robert Guerrero [1m] and Saul Alvarez[2.2m]), averaged an astonishing figure of 1.567m buys (or 81% greater).Posted February 19, 2014 1:11 pm
hes more like a comical character like bugs bunnyPosted February 19, 2014 1:04 pm
KID BLAST Yes, I basically agree. It all eventually reverts back to ‘more of the same’.Posted February 19, 2014 12:46 pm
Hey 50-50 split of the purse is just FAIR, that is some crap to say it is unreasonable!Posted February 19, 2014 12:45 pm
Hecdog: Manny Pacquiao is a super hero. Jinkee sucks. Manny is the best.Posted February 19, 2014 12:40 pm
Hmmmmm why don’t you question the excuses Pac and company have made. I guess building an out door stadium is a legit reason to turn a fight down, or not fighting on certain dates when boxing is the most popular is a legit reason. That is ok but saying he will not work with a promoter who keeps coming up with excuses on reasons why the fight can’t be made isn’t a legit reason. Please. And 98% of fans don’t all blame Floyd. Ridiculous.Posted February 19, 2014 12:34 pm
U gotta give it up 4 him da brother def earn his titles .da last superstar we had was ray leonard as far as being exited ab watching his fights but mayweather fights was and still is da superbowl of boxing on his fight and all da people dat hate this boxer b rite there watching it 2 good article my manPosted February 19, 2014 12:33 pm
Martin “El Bruchador” Honorio
Who’s that girl in the picture? She’s super hotttttttt !!!!Posted February 19, 2014 12:24 pm
TOO SALTY With all due respects but no, the hate directed at Ali was MUCH different than that of Floyd, way different. As for Ali, America was going through a culture shock and in the mist of a controversial war.The Conservative/hardliners/hard hats vs the Peace n’ Love/Intergration/Black Muslim movements. Ali, who was no saint, eventually won his world wide acceptance for RIGHT reasons, was willing lose it all for what he truly believed in, never involved in crimes, domestic abuse, battering both men and women, nor was his entourage involved acts of violence. He wasn’t accused of ducking opponents… No, Mayweather will never come close to Ali in the manner you put it. As a matter of fact, if he retires without facing Manny the name of Pacquiao will follow him wherever he goes, all the way to his grave.Posted February 19, 2014 12:23 pm
Floyd is a hero to millions. We love you champ. Fight Maidana. Khan hasn’t earned it.Posted February 19, 2014 12:09 pm
Gonzo the Dragonborn aka The New Edgar Allen Poe
Edit> whatPosted February 19, 2014 12:08 pm
Gonzo the Dragonborn aka The New Edgar Allen Poe
That’s why I’m talking about.Posted February 19, 2014 12:07 pm
Huevos carries a fighter manhood but Floyd is wearing a pamper hahahaPosted February 19, 2014 12:05 pm
Mayweather is an all-time great. But I stopped using words like “Hero” to describe athletes or musicians when I was about 11.Posted February 19, 2014 12:04 pm
Gonzo the Dragonborn aka The New Edgar Allen Poe
Edit>chicken-heartedPosted February 19, 2014 12:02 pm
Peewee, It is Floyd fault because he got no huevos.Posted February 19, 2014 12:01 pm
Gonzo the Dragonborn aka The New Edgar Allen Poe
Shut up you chicken-heated wimpish vegetable. The general consensus among 98% of boxing fans across the globe regarding whose fault it is Pac-Floyd never came off is that it’s Floyd’s fault. Stop with the revisionism and spin you asexual muppet.Posted February 19, 2014 12:01 pm
Floyd will remain a super woman beater.Posted February 19, 2014 11:59 am
Gonzo the Dragonborn aka The New Edgar Allen Poe
Floyd’s legacy is set in stone. He will forever be remembered as
1. The gutless yellow-streak of p-!-s-s who ducked Manny Pacquiao like Pac simultaneously had the bubonic plague, AIDS, and ebola at the same time.
2. Despite having been ”at the top of the sport for 17 years” and being ”the face of boxing who everyone wants of part of his sweepstakes”, never having fought a solitary great fighter who was in their prime.
3. A women and child beating scumbag who eats his own feces and whose idea of a good time is sucking off aspiring young rappers in the back off his Hummer.Posted February 19, 2014 11:56 am
I would be a debate for years to come. But wouldn’t tarnish their legacies. For Pac fans it is Floyds fault, for Floyd fans it is Pac and Arums fault. For boxing fans it is both of their faults with Arum holding most of the blame. Neither fighter is scared to fight each other.Posted February 19, 2014 11:56 am
missing word; thinkPosted February 19, 2014 11:55 am
I respect your opinion of saying that will not tarnish Floyd legacy even not fighting Pacquiao. But it will remain an endless debate of opinion in the boxing world. Who do you to blame? That will be another endless debate of opinion.Posted February 19, 2014 11:53 am
Gonzo the Dragonborn aka The New Edgar Allen Poe
”Every single time Floyd enters the ring, he faces a man who is roughly 15lbs heavier than himself” ROFL.
Flomos employing Floyd tactics to big him up now? Ie. lying through their crooked horse teeth.Posted February 19, 2014 11:47 am
He’s not a superhero but he does miraculous things. Ok, he must be a saint then.Posted February 19, 2014 11:30 am
FM would not fight MP before. Do you think FM wants to fight MP after his last showing – answer HELL NO. FM will dodge this silver bullet forever.Posted February 19, 2014 11:29 am
Constantine the Czar
That’s Emmanuel ‘Manny’ Pacquiao by the way, with WORLD titles in 8 divisions, Fighter of the Decade, multiple Ring Fighter of the Year winner and GLOBAL icon of boxing!! Manny is the best.Posted February 19, 2014 11:26 am
Constantine the Czar
@toosalty Um, hi. Manny’s first name is Emmanuel. ‘Manny’ is a shortened form. Thanks. Bye. :)Posted February 19, 2014 11:22 am
Hard to say Floyd is afraid of that for the simple fact that Pac and company have come up with reasons for the fight not to be signed. So if you think Floyd is afraid of Pac than you can also say Pac is afraid of Floyd.Posted February 19, 2014 11:18 am
PEEJ is right Mayweather’s legacy will not be tarnished if he doesn’t fight Pacquiao. And the same for Manny. But he will not be above the guy whom he refuses to fight. Right now Mayweather is in the ATG level of Leonard, Duran , Hearns ,Hagler, or even Ali. Take note all these guys have lost a couple bouts. If Mayweather fights Pacquiao and lost, he will drop down to excellent boxer level. That is what he is afraid of.Posted February 19, 2014 11:14 am
Floyds legacy is set as is Pacs. If they say Floyds legacy will take a hit from not fighting Pac then so will Pacs legacy for not fighting Floyd. Both sides have come up with excuses on why the fight couldn’t be made or signed. Fact is they are both great fighters.Posted February 19, 2014 11:09 am
I’ve decided that when Mayweather finally fights a fighter with speed then his legacy will be solidified. He’s has beat almost every type of fighter thus far( flat footed plodders with power, counter punchers, outside fighters, inside fighters…you be he’s seen it all. If Floyd can beat Khan then IMO Pacquaio would get the same treatment..southpaw or orthodox it doesn’t matter. If speed kills then show mePosted February 19, 2014 11:03 am
Manny Pacquiao is the smallest guy left for Mayweather to fight. Let us just say that Pacquiao is also the most inferior fighter of all the welterweights. Then why not fight him? Because it won’t generate money? I don’t think so. If this fight happens, it will break all the existing PPV records. If you see how much money you could get from fighting a smaller and inferior guy, then why not fight him?Posted February 19, 2014 10:54 am
1st off the name alone, shows how you really feel, so you could not possibly see greatness in FM, because of HATE. I like Pac, dude but calling him Emmanuel is insulting, and does not have anything to do with boxing. Emmanuel no, but he if you want to call him a God of you Rome, Catholics,Christians,Muslims,buddist etc you can. The Most his is Emmanuel, and you you are ignorant!!!!!!Posted February 19, 2014 10:51 am
bad example using roy jones as an example, everytime his name is mentioned everyones like wow he was a freak, to bad he didnt fight anyone, with floyd it will be simular, sayin he was a great but to bad he was truely afraid to be tested by a quick south paw, YES, it will hurt him somewhat if him and manny never fightPosted February 19, 2014 10:46 am
Roberto Di Monkouse
Mayweather weighed 152lbs in comparison to Canelo’s 165lbs.
Great Article, the same people who praised Ali now that he is silent and cant talk, called him a loud mouth N**** then. They hated him the same way the hate FM now.Posted February 19, 2014 10:39 am
What a joke of a writer. Floyd will never ever be a super hero, he portray everything a villain do…a bad guy!Posted February 19, 2014 10:34 am
@ Constantine the Czar
Insanity begins smaller…Posted February 19, 2014 10:29 am
“every single time Floyd enters the ring, he faces a man who is roughly 15lbs heavier than himself” Absolute nonsense. As I always say. There’s a big difference between a Mayweather fan and a boxing fan. Totally clueless.Posted February 19, 2014 10:25 am
Floyd doesn’t have to fight Golovkin or Martinez at 154 or 160…just Manny at 147.Posted February 19, 2014 10:19 am
Khan’s Cuz Achmed
Floydee will forever be remembered for his first loss against King Amir Khan if HE WILL GROW A PAIR AND SIGN THE CONTRACT. Don’t be scared Floydee. This will only hurt for a little while. #KingAmir2014 #KhanRules #FiddyCentSaysFloydTastesLikeChickenPosted February 19, 2014 10:17 am
Well said, Constantine!Posted February 19, 2014 10:17 am
Constantine the Czar
Floyd Mayweather is certainly NOT a superhero! My friends, there is only ONE superhero in boxing today and he goes by the name of Emmanuel Pacquia or ‘Manny’ as the whole world knows him. This legend of the ring Manny has won WORLD Championship titles in EIGHT divisions from Flyweight to Light Middleweight, a feat unparalled in boxing history, far outshining Floyd Mayweather, obviously, and leaving this cherry-picking pretender trailing in his wake. Manny is a multiple Ring Fighter of the Year winner, having didtinguished himself in epic series against fellow icons such as Barrera, Morales and Marquez, been awarded the distinction of Fighter of the Decade over this Floyd Mayweather character, of course, and Manny is, of course, a TRULY global world sporting figure, given that he boxs all over the WORLD, from the Philippines to South Africa, from Las Vegas in the USA to Macao in the Far East, giving the entire GLOBAL community a chance to witness greatness in the flesh. Yes, my friends, there is only ONE true boxing superhero in the sport today, a destructive destroyer, a fearless maestro, a peerless ring technician, a punching pugilistic punisher of hapless opponents, an iconic warrior, a shooting star, a speeding comet, a dazzling meteor, a supernova even, an irresistable force of Nature bestriding the fight game like a God from Mount Olympus, a superhero to take his place alongside Superman, Spiderman, Batman and even Captain Marvel, not to mention Iron Man. We will rarely, if ever, see a boxer breathe the same rafified air again as Emmanuel ‘Manny’ Pacquiao, the Fighting Lion of the Philippines, a boxer and man without compare and a Fighter For The Ages. Manny is the best.Posted February 19, 2014 10:14 am
I think Khan is still begging his Twitter crowd to harass Floyd. Maidana please, champ.Posted February 19, 2014 9:56 am
Voetsek stupid articlePosted February 19, 2014 9:50 am
FMJ and RJJ….a farce!Posted February 19, 2014 9:49 am
Roberto Di Monkouse
@WarZ – You’re missing the point! The article references Roy Jones Jr’s accomplishment and for Floyd to replicate this feat, Mayweather’s critics would compel him to fight Klitschko for the heavyweight title.Posted February 19, 2014 9:48 am
I think this might be Viv…I been following him long enough to know his writing. This Calico Streets bro. But at any rate this article is spot on. The flip side is, what would people say if Floyd began fighting the top tier fighters in LOWER weight classes and he actually had the weight advantage? Could u imagine? If Floyd had a 15lb weight advantage on a fighter what would the feedback from that fight be like? I’m just askin….Posted February 19, 2014 9:45 am
Roy Jones did not fight Klitschko. He fought John Ruis for the WBA heavyweight championship and won. Wow nobody knew.Posted February 19, 2014 9:40 am
Roberto Di Monkouse
@Swedish Boxing Fan and @wearerofallthebelts – The author was making a point about some of the all time greats not facing each other when they could have, but this didn’t affect their legacies in any way.
He also claims that many Mayweather critics will never be satisfied, so they’ll always keep raising the bar until he inevitably fails, hence the reference to Roy Jones Jr. fighting at heavyweight.Posted February 19, 2014 9:15 am
Sure it would’ve been cool to see Roy Jones fight some of those guys but the boxing community was not unified in clamoring for any of those fights. Perhaps McClellan but if you remember Jones and Gerald McClellan were headed towards a showdown when Gerald suffered his horrible injury against Benn; it would’ve happened otherwise. In other words NOT the same thing as Floyd vs Manny. Sorry nice try tho.Posted February 19, 2014 9:05 am
the headline was Floyd not Paquiao. get it ?Posted February 19, 2014 8:49 am
Great article Boxtradamus!Posted February 19, 2014 8:44 am
Swedish Boxing Fan
Yes its true that Floyd Mayweather Jr is not a super-hero becouse if he evere was, he would charge you money for saving you from a danergous situation. He would never do that for the good cause like Superman, Batman, Spider-Man etc you name it.
Also yes, Floyd Mayweather jr’s legacy will take a turn if he ducks 6-time world champion Manny “Pac-Man” Paquiao as Pac-man is an active legend in boxing and it is almost destined for them to fight each-other.
Also ever sence Paquiao made the brave move of calling out Mayweather Jr to fight him in a charity event made fight, declearing he don’t need all money to fight him, Paquiao got once again the upper-hand.
Floyd Mayweather Jr is just a prima donna in boxing. To compare him with Roy Jones Jr was a little weak point as Roy Jones Jr cleaned out the light heavyweight era with conqering all world title belts there was (accept the WBO belt), so Roy Jones jr had all belts and Jones jr never had any plans to stay long in the middleweight or super middleweight classes.Posted February 19, 2014 8:42 am
this blogger is a mayweatherritard.Posted February 19, 2014 8:30 am
The headline name was Floyd not Marquez.Posted February 19, 2014 8:30 am
Jonn E. JaGozza
Floyd isn’t a super hero he’s just a great fighter, one of the greatest in a long time. I remember when Ali, back in the 70′s, had people who had their doubts about him , they were vicious in their criticism of him. Then on national TV Howard Cosell made this statement “If you think he can’t fight, then get in the ring with him” I share the same opinion about Floyd,… He’s a great fighter … PEACE.. Theboxingdictionary.com… ” The Language of the Ring “Posted February 19, 2014 8:21 am
yeah sure, say that to Marquez lol:DPosted February 19, 2014 8:01 am
If he think he is a super hero ..then Pacquiao is kryptonitePosted February 19, 2014 7:57 am
of course not, is just a punk!Posted February 19, 2014 7:57 am