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Cee

Canelo! Cotto would take him to school!

Posted February 24, 2014 9:55 am 


Cee

I keep telling all you haters to stop sleeping on my man cotto! Cotto will make SM look like an amateur!

Posted February 23, 2014 4:31 pm 


The Pinoy Pikey

The Facts. “To quick, to smart, and to strong”? Martinez my be faster and stronger, to say too quick and strong is overdoing it. Too smart for Cotto is way off. Cotto is a great fighter with fights against other true greats, win or lose, and his ring experience is second to none. Martinez kinda stumbled his way with a couple of great victories against fighters whose alleged greatness was still in question i.e. Williams and Pavlik, and he almost gave it away to Chavez jr. in fight that he thoroughly dominated. Cotto deserves a whole lot more respect than he gets.

Posted February 23, 2014 1:22 pm 


The Facts !

I doubt that Cotto will last even 6 rounds ..Martinez is going to tee off on him . Martinez is just to quick and to smart and to strong for Cotto ,,when Cotto starts to feel the punches he will resort to running around the ring ,,he always does that when he starts to feel the pressure .

Posted February 23, 2014 1:06 pm 


Ray Ray

Southpaw v orthodox, 8 inch reach=straight left 4 Cottos face all night long…& that 8inches will feel like its getting bigger the longer the fight go’s. Cotto is a body puncher and inside guy anyways….he’s never really been that much of a jab guy…he’ll b eating plenty 2 get on the inside.

Posted February 23, 2014 1:48 am 


Ray Ray

Ha ha yeah funny 1….we will c won’t we? Sergio will b the 1 doing the damage with the jab and more so with his straight left down the pipe….Sergio’s use 2 fighting true middleweights Cotto is not. Iv never boxed? Says the guy who picks some1 who’s best work was many weight devisions lower than middleweight? If u new boxing I’d no it’s very hard 2 jump up weight with the same effectiveness. Cotto will get Bloody.

Posted February 23, 2014 1:44 am 


Young.L

No, its not when your opponent has his hands down and isn’t throwing a jab himself. I can tell yall aint never boxed. Watch Cotto control him with the jab. #boxing knowledge

Posted February 22, 2014 8:45 pm 


Ray Ray

Going 2 b hard 2 control some1 with a jab giving away 8inches in reach.

Posted February 22, 2014 8:25 pm 


Young.L

Martinez is like roy jones, in dat he relies on his reflex and speed. Cotto will control homie with his jab. #ima make some big bucks

Posted February 22, 2014 8:06 pm 


Liver Shot

I think Cotto would have had a better chance fighting Canelo and getting a payday in the process. Cotto is a veteran in the ring and might have been able to out class the younger Canelo with his knowledge. If he happened to lose then he lost to the young lion and got paid to do it. Martinez is a tougher fight and he moves and makes you pay as you try to get inside. Cotto like all PR fighters has a ton of heart and will be taken out on his shield. Sad ending for one of the good guy’s in boxing.

Posted February 22, 2014 7:06 pm 


the voice of boxing

Won’t be watching, neither should you!!!

Posted February 22, 2014 6:23 pm 


PEEJ

I know where Martunes is from. Williams first loss he was out boxed by a Puerto Rican dude

Posted February 22, 2014 3:59 pm 


PEEJ

Pavlik was ruined by Hopkins. Did you not see how after the Hopkins fight how he was then in and out of rehabs. They even said after the Hopkins fight he spiraled to a dark place. Was never the same after that.

Posted February 22, 2014 3:58 pm 


suckapunch77

I see this fight a bit similiar to Cotto vs yuri Foreman……Watch…

Posted February 22, 2014 3:31 pm 


te tumbo

“Pavlik was ruined by Hopkins”(?). Pavlik was defeated for the first time by Hopkins but nobody was saying “ruined” at the time. like I said, those conclusions emerged in retrospect. also, Martinez was not favored in the rematch and especially not by the likes of Tark. conversely, some of us predicted that Martinez would pick up where he left off and tee-off on Williams accordingly, which he did with confidence. by the rematch Martinez had no doubt whatsoever that he would land his powerpunches on Williams.

Posted February 22, 2014 3:20 pm 


Dino

PEEJ….Martinez is from Argentina.

Posted February 22, 2014 2:30 pm 


PEEJ

Pavlik was ruined by Hopkins. Martinez never exploited that. Williams was exploited by the Puerto Rican dude that out boxed him. Not sure if Williams was the under dog in the rematch

Posted February 22, 2014 1:53 pm 


te tumbo

Martinez being “overrated” is only in retrospect. otherwise, he wasn’t favored to defeat Pavlik or Williams but he did in impressive fashion. Martinez can’t be faulted for Pavlik’s personal issues or Williams lack of actual boxing talent. after all, it was Martinez who exploited these flaws to elevate himself from underestimated to “overrated” while demoting Pavlik and Williams to never-was’.

Posted February 22, 2014 12:01 pm 


PEEJ

Martinez has always been overrated. He looked good in the Williams rematch and beating a drunken Pavlik but he never defended his title against any of the top challengers in his weigh class and constantly called out smaller fighters. Overrated

Posted February 22, 2014 11:16 am 


Anonymous

WHAT!?!

That comment was absolutely true. Boxtra is a total moron.

Posted February 22, 2014 10:42 am 


WHAT!?!

Mike Tyson – You will see that a lot from Boxtra. He often makes a choice for one fighter and then changes his mind. This way he can always quote himself picking the winner. No one takes him seriously because of this fact and he is a laughing stock to all on this site.

Posted February 22, 2014 2:55 am 


Ray Ray

Yeah Mike Iv heard that 2 about Cotto sparring PAC.

Posted February 22, 2014 2:23 am 


Ray Ray

Funny how Sergio is overrated now that it’s probs on the cards that if he wins he gets Floyd ha ha ha ha….how long has Sergio been in top 5 pnd 4 pnd? He was no.2 and no.3 not long ago but somehow went down without losing and he unified v Chavez. Go figure?

Posted February 22, 2014 2:21 am 


Mike tyson

Anybody else heard cotto is one of PAC sparing partner in a few week,really its because of training time under roach, over lapping.
,but someone said they will see sparing each other too.

Posted February 22, 2014 12:21 am 


Mike tyson

Boxtra is that really you? Did you change your mind? You were going with Martinez few. Days ago.

Posted February 22, 2014 12:10 am 


NUT

Where’s Margarita? That’s right…He’s on youtube getting smashed by PAC!

Posted February 21, 2014 11:39 pm 


Wut

I’d rather have a psycho like messyhoe than a keyboard warrior religiously putting an asterisk on a boxer he hates lol.

Posted February 21, 2014 11:32 pm 


TE TETA

Where’s Margarita????

Posted February 21, 2014 11:12 pm 


Boxtradamus

Cotto by early KO. You heard it here first by the greatest fight prophet EVER born!!!

Posted February 21, 2014 11:06 pm 


Happyboy

Anonymous – I would also stay anonymous if I was as dumb as you.

Posted February 21, 2014 10:55 pm 


Anonymous

Stumpy11

“Floyd will fight golovkin in may and then unify the titles in September with Cotto or Martinez.”

HAHAHAHAHA!!! That’s funniest thing I’ve heard for ages.

Fraud Duckweather will NEVER fight Golovkin because he’d get hammered fast. Duckweather wouldn’t last 6 rounds with Golovkin.

The only thing Fraud is good at is conning his own fans, but he’s an expert at that because they fall for it time and time again. LOL

Posted February 21, 2014 10:30 pm 


Martin

Hay por lo menos algun Mexicano de verdad aqui?

Posted February 21, 2014 8:26 pm 


dwc

Both guys are at the end of their ropes.A new wave will be hitting the div. soon…….

Posted February 21, 2014 7:14 pm 


te tumbo

like one week(?). all-right . . . we’ll see.

Posted February 21, 2014 6:54 pm 


Mex

It’s been in the works for some time now…..boxingnews24

Posted February 21, 2014 6:43 pm 


te tumbo

MEX, “old news”? all i could find is that Marquez wants it(?). it’s also not listed on his or Alvarado’s boxrec profile. define “old news”, i.e., old gossip? what i heard (for the first time) is that they’ve begun to actually negotiate. we’ll see.

Posted February 21, 2014 6:11 pm 


PEEJ

I definitely think Martinez is overrated but he doesn’t have a glass chin

Posted February 21, 2014 6:00 pm 


Mex

Cotto will win this one…Martinez has a glass chin. And is old

Posted February 21, 2014 5:59 pm 


Mex

Te tumbo …thats old news..Marquez vs Alvarado

Posted February 21, 2014 5:58 pm 


Stumpy11

Floyd will fight golovkin in may and then unify the titles in September with Cotto or Martinez.

Posted February 21, 2014 5:56 pm 


te tumbo

Btw, just heard from a camarada that Marquez v. Alvarado is in the works(?!). don’t know about this one. wasn’t even expecting it. stay tuned. a 40-something Marquez v. any welter not named Pacquiao* is a risk but Marquez won’t have it any other way.

Posted February 21, 2014 5:38 pm 


Anonymous

Martinez – old man way past his best.

Cotto – overrated and way past his best.

But it’ll be a good fight cos they match up well.

Golovkin would destroy them both, in the same night.

Posted February 21, 2014 5:23 pm 


Anonymous

News just in – Martinez is fighting Cotto.

Ellie Wetsack …. Reeeeporting.

Posted February 21, 2014 5:21 pm 


Fight Aficionado

Cotto goes for history by becoming the first Puerto Rican middleweight to get KOed in a title fight since Trinidad.

Posted February 21, 2014 5:07 pm 


te tumbo

Cotto won’t be offered any more guaranteed $10 million paydays after he is KO’d by Martinez. particularly not if Angulo pulls off the upset, which Cotto doesn’t figure to follow-up on by actually facing Angulo. THAT is another 154lbr that Cotto has never even mentioned. meanwhile, Lara has unfinished business v. IBF champ Molina and even Vanes and Angulo when you get right down to it. these were all bouts in which Lara was underwhelming if not unofficially defeated.

Posted February 21, 2014 4:48 pm 


Anonymous

“And there was moments when he landed on GGG, GGG had this look on his face like wtf just hit me.” … hahahaha what a load of bollocks. At no point in that fight did Golovkin look the slightest bit worried from that moronic bum Stevens. The look on HIS face when he got decked by Golovkin was priceless. LMFAO!!!

In fact Stevens took such a savage beating in the last two rounds that his own corner had to pull him out of the fight and you didn’t see Stevens complaining cos he’d taken enough and couldn’t wait to get the heck out of there. So much for Curtis ‘Showtime’ Stevens. What a fooking hilarious name, more Curtis ‘Outta Time’ Stevens. He was lucky his corner pulled him out of the fight, he looked totally battered after what Golovkin did to him!

Posted February 21, 2014 4:43 pm 


Anonymous

Happyboy the only thing you’re good at is changing your screen name over and over again to hide away like the racist loser you are.

Posted February 21, 2014 4:32 pm 


Dinamita 313

@ Tumbalina I agree that GGG would give it to Canelo I just wouldn’t go say GGG is the best at 160. He is a good fighter but to me he haves alot more to prove to me before I call him the great or the best. Its the same situation as Ruslan. People see one or two good fights and people automatically call them great and unstoppable. To me a fighter need to prove themselves first and like it or not Martinez has more than proved himself.

Posted February 21, 2014 4:07 pm 


Anonymous

martinez is well over hyped. murray already showed that.

Posted February 21, 2014 3:28 pm 


Happyboy

Tumbalina – name one good boxer GGG beat thats better than Trout? Stevens was a nobody and still is a nobody.

Posted February 21, 2014 3:02 pm 


Happyboy

Anon – the only thing GGG seems to be good at tearing thru is bums.

Posted February 21, 2014 2:59 pm 


Happyboy

GGG = HYPE

Posted February 21, 2014 2:58 pm 


Dinamita 313

Everybody Is talking about GGG this and GGG that who has GGG fought and beat for anyone to b saying he’s the best? He hasn’t fought no one. Sergio would dance circles around that rookie.

Posted February 21, 2014 2:40 pm 


chicago guy

A tough fight for Cotto but I wish for him to win.

Posted February 21, 2014 2:17 pm 


Anonymous

Martinez ducked Golovkin, with good reason, Golovkin would tear Martinez apart. It wouldn’t last 4 rounds. Martinez is finished, Cotto ain’t much better, their best days have gone. Golovkin is now and the future.

Posted February 21, 2014 2:12 pm 


PEEJ

Only advantage Martinez has in this fight is that he is bigger and Cotto should be at 147. I am hoping for a Cotto win here

Posted February 21, 2014 2:00 pm 


PEEJ

Angulo is not shot or broken. Terrible assessment.

Posted February 21, 2014 1:26 pm 


Gregory

I love cotto as a boxer. He has always been my favorit boxer. But this is too much for him. He already had problems with Trout who was too big for cotto. Martinez is about as same size. He is just too small for this fight. He will take everything Martinez gives but the problem is he is not able to dish with Sergio. He hasn´t got the reach or foot speed to trouble Martinez. Sad to see what happens…

Posted February 21, 2014 1:18 pm 


PEEJ

Any fight 160 and below is the middleweight limit. Martinez agreed to the 159 lb catchweight and agreed to have his belt on the line. You don’t have to weigh 160 just to defend the belt. As long as you are not over 160. And per every Martinez fan out there that say he is a small middleweight then it should be no problem making 159 and there should be no excuses if he loses.

Posted February 21, 2014 12:46 pm 


The knowledge

This fight should not happen.

Posted February 21, 2014 12:38 pm 


boxfan101

why do it below the middleweight limit? His belts wont be at stake then. and no history to be made for Cotto. Sergio by knockout in 5.

Posted February 21, 2014 12:37 pm 


PEEJ

It does. But hey they have to accept the truth.

Posted February 21, 2014 12:15 pm 


Cheezb

@PEEJ – “Lara has unfinished business with Vanes and Molina”

LOL, don’t say that out loud! It seems to upset certain people here :P

Posted February 21, 2014 12:04 pm 


PEEJ

Lara has unfinished business with Vanes and Molina

Posted February 21, 2014 12:01 pm 


Dan D

Lara is hot property in the making and he is way too dangerous for the top boys at 154. I don’t think Floyd will take him, neither will Canelo at this point of his career. I think the winner of this fight will between Cotto and Maravila will be Floyds dance partner at middleweight come September 14th.

Posted February 21, 2014 11:57 am 


Sector

Cotto by UD

Posted February 21, 2014 11:44 am 


The Ghost of Hector Camacho

Cotto wins by stoppage

Posted February 21, 2014 11:43 am 


Op Amp

Martinez by stoppage in round 9.

Posted February 21, 2014 11:19 am 


PEEJ

I bet if Cotto wins there is a Floyd rematch and it will be for the middleweight belt. But yet folks will still say Floyd is cherry picking. lol

Posted February 21, 2014 11:18 am 


Op Amp

Cotto goes for history, while floyd goes for another carefully chosen cherry.

Posted February 21, 2014 11:15 am 


REM

Cotto is that dude the guy has been great for both the fans and the sport of boxing for the last decade. Win win fight for Cotto if he loses nothing can be taken away from him if he loses but performs well its like a win his stock rises and if he win he cements himself as a certified atg. If the Martinez that fought Murray shows up Cotto has a good chance.

Posted February 21, 2014 11:14 am 


Rapid

I really like Cotto, But, If Martinez is even 75 percent of himself… Miguel is gonna get beat loud!!

Posted February 21, 2014 10:38 am 


Yo MOMMA

TUMBALINA AND PUBIC EMINEM
You know what I don’t get !0 million offered to fight an old Cotto who Canelo should beat. Why night offer that to Lara? Canelo Vs. Lara is the fight to be made.

Posted February 21, 2014 9:54 am
__________________________________________________________

Cause Cotto is suppose to be elite? right? Lara will get his turn but it wont be 10mil thats for sure.

Posted February 21, 2014 10:16 am 


Dan D

This will be a great fight between two great champions.

Posted February 21, 2014 9:24 am 


Dan D

Just to clarify for some on the thread. The Middleweight belt (160LB) can be on the line at any weight from 155lb – 160lb. The catchweight just means that the fighters have agreed to a limit of 1lb below the official limit. I don’t see an enormous problem with this.

Posted February 21, 2014 9:21 am 


srminimo

Cheezb has the beat.

Posted February 21, 2014 8:59 am 


srminimo

Anonymous- I’m right with you. I love my man Cotto, but I don’t think he’s big enough to back Sergio up and I don’t think he can beat him any other way.

Posted February 21, 2014 8:56 am 


Ray Ray

Martinez won’t cash out on this fight if he wins….he will cash out v Floyd later in the yr.

Posted February 21, 2014 7:51 am 


Anonymous

Martin Murray beat Martinez. He was blatantly robbed. Martin Murray is the true world champion.

Posted February 21, 2014 7:28 am 


pride

How is this fight a PPV? This things will lose HBO money. Both of these fighters are past there best, moreso Cotto. It’s clear this is Martinez’s cash out fight into retirement, otherwise this would be GGG in the PPV.

Posted February 21, 2014 6:49 am 


Ray Ray

Trust me Cotto will fight Canelo even after he gets beat by Sergio….

Posted February 21, 2014 5:46 am 


Tokolos

Why is this bout being hyped so much? Cotto is not only 3-4 years past his best he is also fighting at 15-20 pounds above his best weight. Martinez is 39! He is way past his best too- he got knocked down by club fighters Macklin and & Murray. Nether man is the top 160 pounder- this a joke and another victory for the promoters and sanctioning bodies.

Posted February 21, 2014 5:15 am 


Ghetto Thug

Cotto will be turned into Martínez`s messyhoe, he should have taken the fight with Cinnabum kid while he could, now he will be KOed by a lot less money

Posted February 21, 2014 4:50 am 


BOXING ART

Cheezb: People who put PR down systematically are not logical or educated people such as what you have posted which is flawless logic. They think with their bigotry and love to put PR language down. Truth is that we speak a perfect blend of Taino, African, and Spanish so nobody in the Hispanic world has that mixture. Most Hispanic countries take pride in speaking more like Spain. PR don’t care about that at all because we are Boricuas. Hard to choose between Martinez and Cotto — both are favorites of PR. From a boxing view, Martinez has all of the insider advantages. Cotto has a lot to overcome not having experience in this weight plus Martinez is very crafty setting up all kinds of baits and has excellent counter-punching which is under-estimated. One thing for sure, Cotto has lots of strategy to get inside enough to bother Martinez and he will give one great fight and so will Martinez — neither one of them has even ripped off boxing fans after they spend their money to watch them. Not ever.

Posted February 21, 2014 4:40 am 


Zuks

End of Cotto

No history will be made he will be KOe’d instead!

Posted February 21, 2014 4:09 am 


Ray Ray

Sergio 2 wear Cotto down….late stoppage or ref stoppage. 8inch reach is huge, especially 4 orthodox v southpaw. Straight left….boom.

Posted February 21, 2014 3:12 am 


Cheezb

Actually, I just read that PR is in fact the most successful boxing nation (in terms of historical world titles) per capita, and surprisingly, the only country to have had champions in every single weight division (that last point I find hard to believe, but I’d be interested to look it up… surely the US would’ve had at least one in every division???)

Posted February 21, 2014 2:39 am 


Cheezb

I’d hate to play favourites in the whole PR vs Mexico rivalry that shows up everywhere… but isn’t it a bit unfair, considering both countries have similar levels of interest in boxing, to compare one nation with a population of 120M with another that doesn’t even have 4M people???

It’s kind’ve like expecting Jamaica to rival the USA’s olympic medal tally or something.

If you look at it from that “per capita” perspective, then I’d put it that PR is a pretty incredible boxing nation.

Posted February 21, 2014 2:36 am 


Stumpy11

Mayweather will fight the winner in September!

Posted February 21, 2014 2:22 am 


Havoc

Cotto by 1st round knockout

Posted February 21, 2014 2:18 am 


Havoc

Cotto by 1st round knockout

Posted February 21, 2014 2:18 am 


largo

Martinez by stoppage.

Posted February 21, 2014 1:54 am 


Cheezb

I think this fight is decided by whether Cotto has enough power to hurt Martinez or not.

Cotto still had power at 154, but it definitely wasn’t the same thudding, wear-down power he had in the lighter divisions (i.e. Trout was completely unfazed by it). So I’m very skeptical as to whether he can hit any harder up at 160 (or 159 or whatever it is).

Martinez has looked a bit “aged” and has been dropped a bit lately, but it’s been against career Middleweights, so I’m not sure this is a sign of anything in relation to the Cotto fight.

If Cotto can hurt him, I figure we’ll see Cotto walk Martinez down and win a UD or possibly a late stoppage (i.e. Cotto has the skills to bait Martinez’ counter and punish him for it).
If Cotto’s power isn’t there, then I reckon Cotto will take the first round or so, before Martinez turns the tables and puts his superior power and conditioning on display, probably hurting Cotto multiple times before Cotto tries to survive on the outside… but I think Martinez isn’t the type that this would work against and I’d imagine Cotto being stopped soon after (maybe around round 6 or 7).

I reckon the latter case is a lot more likely.

Posted February 21, 2014 1:47 am 


Ray Ray

Cotto isn’t afraid of Alvarez….he could still fight Canelo even if he gets beat by Sergio….win win $$$$$

Posted February 21, 2014 1:38 am 


Ray Ray

My bad I misunderstood…it is 4 Sergio’s strap. I’m sticking with Sergio 4 the win.

Posted February 21, 2014 1:30 am 


Ray Ray

159 instead of 160 seriously? Y wouldn’t u fight @160 & 4 the title?

Posted February 21, 2014 1:28 am 


Dinamita 313

Cant wait for this one Martinez is my boy and yes he will win by KO in the 7th. I think Martinez is way to much for Cotto hes the bigger,better, faster, smarter, stronger fighter than Cotto. Its gonna get bloody people I guarantee it.

Posted February 21, 2014 1:13 am 


Young.L

Cotto is afraid of a paper champ.at 154lbs (canelo), so he gonna fight the real champ at 160lbs (Martinez)..
You hataz must got masters degreez in logic…# realtalk

Posted February 21, 2014 12:31 am 


Gallinas de Puerco Chico

semi- haha (lol)

Posted February 20, 2014 11:33 pm 


srminimo

te tumbo- I guess you can buy a mansion and a Mercedes for virtual peanuts in DF, because Marquez seems to be doing alright.
BTW- I like your top 5 list (I myself prefer De Jesus, Escalera -the original Rosado- and Torres over Camacho, Chapo and Rosado). So in your honor here’s my 5 favorite Mexican fighters:
1- Chavez
2- Zarate
3- Finito
4- Márquez
5- Yaqui

Posted February 20, 2014 10:46 pm 


Mexican

There are no Hooligans in British football now, I was referring to the internet, some supporters don’t like a certain team, no hooliganism involved, just silly comments like bin dippers, YNWA, You’ll never walk alone, You never win anything, and Manchester utd will not be be in the champions league next season.

Posted February 20, 2014 10:37 pm 


Mex

Think about it…Canelo has watched all the fights Mayweather has fought like Oscar, Shane, Cotto, Victor, Hatton, ect…and didn’t learn anything from does past fights on how to beat Mayweather???? And he was stronger and bigger than Floyd and he didn’t even touch Floyd………sorry but I speak FACTs.

Posted February 20, 2014 10:34 pm 


Dinamita 313

@ detroitko. Being from Detroit myself im very disappointed in u. Lol. U know Martinez is gonna give it to Cotto bad. Martinez is gonna knock him out in the 7th round. Boxing lesson.

Posted February 20, 2014 10:30 pm 


Mex

I think Canelo but don’t count El Perro out..dude got haymakers!!..Canelo will not be the next best Mexican fighter..he is to slow flat footed and has no killer instinct…plus his trainers suck.

Posted February 20, 2014 10:30 pm 


Mex

All he needs is his brother..Mikey the Mexican Mayweather Garcia..

Posted February 20, 2014 10:27 pm 


Mex

I really think Cotto beats Martinez easy.

Posted February 20, 2014 10:25 pm 


Mex

PE ..I see you PR are seeing the light …Thomas Dulorme being trained by a Mexican Robert Garcia..Welcome to Oxnard Cali….

Posted February 20, 2014 10:24 pm 


Mex

Cotto should win against old dinosaur Martinez

Posted February 20, 2014 10:20 pm 


te tumbo

“I do Believe the Brits have their Hooligans who . . .” see what I mean? “MEXICAN”, just count the posts it took for Public Enema to already go there . . . (lol).

Posted February 20, 2014 9:32 pm 


te tumbo

Btw, I can’t recall a presumably great fighter ever rejecting a $10 million payday(?), e.g., Marquez repeatedly fought Pacquiao* as the underdog for virtual peanuts each and every time.

All Facts . . . All the time.

Posted February 20, 2014 9:29 pm 


Mexican

The status, Status quo, Rockin all over the world, in the army now, again again.

Posted February 20, 2014 9:29 pm 


Dinamita 313

Yeah Cotto always fights guys his size like Pacquiao. Lmao. He got his azz beat too. Martinez is gonna end his career in a very disturbing fashion. Cant wait.

Posted February 20, 2014 9:29 pm 


te tumbo

1. Cheato TriniDud (exposed by DLH aka “the Blueprint”)
2. The ATG Hector Macho Camacho (Punished and Pummelled by the ATGreater Chavez)
3. The ATG Wilfredo Gomez (KTFO by the ATGreater Chava Sanchez)
4. Wilfredo Benitez (never recovered after being exposed by Leonard in one of the most Boring fights in boxing history)
5. Rosario (Socked to oblivion by Ramirez in San Juan and beaten to a bloody-mouthed pulp by Chavez)
6. Cotto (Ruined by Tony)
7. Rosado because he fights anyone anytime (KTFO in 2 by Angulo)
8. Calderon (retired by Segura)
9. Lopez (Socked into oblivion by Salido, Twice, in PR)
10. Martinez (disposed of by Garcia)
Bonus! Seda (dropped to his knees by “Terremoto”)

See what I mean . . . NEXT?

Posted February 20, 2014 9:26 pm 


te tumbo

i’ve got a bead on Cotto’s fighting-status, which is not prime and verging on retired. Martinez is a bit trickier but if he shows up revived and motivated by the opportunity to grasp Cotto’s remaining spotlight, i think Cotto’s getting KTFO. Martinez is fully acclimated to middle. Cotto’s been carefully matched-up ever since he claimed 154lbs and has never fought anyone who socks as hard as Martinez. Cotto’s also giving up height, reach, and speed while having to deal with the unorthodox angles constantly created by the southpaw Martinez. barring a catastrophic “old-overnight” collapse, Martinez will take Cotto into deeper waters and Drop him repeatedly with precise southpaw-powershots, before a predictably-fatigued Cotto concedes defeat . . . and “Junito” won’t even collect a guaranteed $10 million for his troubles. afterwards, i’ll continue to enjoy Public Enema’s spiraling descent even deeper into pendijitis Hell.

Posted February 20, 2014 9:17 pm 


Mexican

The Britsh Boxing fans do follow Boxing first, the way it is, but I can understand other countries with the Boxing, not the nasty stuff though, leave that to the Football, Manchester Utd and Liverpool, they don’t like each other,

Posted February 20, 2014 9:16 pm 


Mexican

Exactly tetumbo,, lol, we follow all the Boxers, we speak the same language there, English, from that tiny Island, defend your shores, fight them on the beaches.

Posted February 20, 2014 9:04 pm 


te tumbo

i didn’t post about and still haven’t watched the Collazo v. Ortiz bout, which was supposed to be a B-list tune-up for Ortiz anyway. in fact, all it’s done for Collazo is keep him in line for being featured in another tune-up for a more promising fighter. who even cares? other than a desperate Public Pendejo?

Posted February 20, 2014 9:01 pm 


TE TETA

WHERE’S THE WARRIOR MARGARITAAAA??? MISSING IN ACTION…LOL

Posted February 20, 2014 9:00 pm 


te tumbo

“Show me a mexican, Rican, Brit, Phillipino that doesn’t support their fighters in a match vs anyone else” ME. i clearly predicted Marquez, Ortiz, and Canelo’s defeat v. Mayweather. Margarito’s as well IF Floyd had ever accepted his challenge. i’m a fight-fan not an obnoxious, ignorant, classless, and territorial multiposting tr*ll like Public Pendijitis.

Posted February 20, 2014 8:58 pm 


The Mad Scientist

Its been nearly 10 years and the same dude is still crying around here..Lol

Posted February 20, 2014 8:54 pm 


Titopa

Say what you want about these guys fighting each other, it can be for “this reason” or “that reason”, the point is they’re getting it on and this is a HELLUVA fight!! I am PUMPED.

Posted February 20, 2014 8:43 pm 


te tumbo

. . . but that may just be the difference between a former empire and world power and a territorial island, which is also a historical FACT.

Posted February 20, 2014 8:41 pm 


te tumbo

“MEXICAN”, I agree. not even when I was predicting Pacquiao’s* KO of Hatton did any British fight-fans immediately default to the “racist” crap. of course, anybody who actually pays attention to my posts also know that I’m a big Lewis fan and became a believer in Calzaghe who proved me otherwise when he slapped the crap out of Hopkins . . . peace.

Posted February 20, 2014 8:40 pm 


Mexican

Hatton, they said he is one dimensional as a fighter, but most can’t emulate his style or they get beat or knocked out, so they don’t do it, they can’t do it.

Posted February 20, 2014 8:39 pm 


pride

Unless Martinez is truly shot, there isn’t any way Cotto is winning this fight. Even if he does, who on Earth ranked in the top 10 can he even beat?

Posted February 20, 2014 8:37 pm 


Mexican

This is what it is, you follow Boxing, whatever fighter, that should be automatic, you should not automatically decide to not like that fighter, he is from there, so no matter what he has done as a fighter, I will say this. The British Boxing fans are different in that respect, they see the Boxer first and is there is not a second really, it’s the Boxer, whether it’s Cotto, Martinez, Canelo, Pacquiao, Marquez, Tysn, Ali, Holmes, whatever boxer really.

Posted February 20, 2014 8:34 pm 


te tumbo

“Everybody here knows damn well” that Public Enema is a creepy sicko and pathological multiposting tr*ll. i don’t address him directly any more. particularly once I determined what a mental and emotional wreck he is . . . yet I can’t help but enjoy reading his sustained meltdown. like watching Wile E. Coyote’s whistling drop to the canyon floor but it’s been months now and I still haven’t seen the distant “Poof!” of dust indicating his landing . . . (lol).

Posted February 20, 2014 8:25 pm 


Mexican

Cheatin Chihuahuas De Messyhoe, is Public enemy right, that is stupid post, not worth replying to.

Posted February 20, 2014 8:20 pm 


Mexican

I am a fight from Britain, so I don’t understand all this national thing with Boxing, we follow all the fighters as Boxing fans, so it’s obvious to us when it gets like that, we could say we don’t like German Boxers, not really that bothered, if you follow Boxing you see the fighters, not what country they are from.

Posted February 20, 2014 8:15 pm 


te tumbo

FACT: Cotto’s achievements ended at 147lbs. he’s accomplished nothing ever since.

Posted February 20, 2014 8:09 pm 


Mexican

That’s what I’m saying, so don’t reply to it, like it is a big deal, obviously he is a stupid poster, so it should be about the Boxer and how good they are, not what country there are from, that includes Pacquiao and all the Boxers.

Posted February 20, 2014 8:03 pm 


te tumbo

Btw GALLINAS, i admire your work. you’ve got Public Pendejitis’ head spinning on these message boards seeing yours truly everywhere he posts . . . (lol).

Posted February 20, 2014 8:00 pm 


te tumbo

“That’s Public enemy though,”? WTF does that mean? please clarify and describe Public Enema for us . . . if you Dare.

Posted February 20, 2014 7:59 pm 


PEEJ

Martin, well I don’t know if he is ducking the fight or just not enough money. But I know he said he had visa issues. I think Murray is a better fighter than Macklin though.

Posted February 20, 2014 7:58 pm 


te tumbo

“Mexican”, I don’t reply with the same thing. I repeatedly challenge any and every poster to cut and paste a post of mine that is anything less than 100% Documented Boxing or historical FACT. still no takers. conversely, all I’ve gotta do is cite Public Pendejo’s multiposting handles for my evidence . . . IF I was an unbearable crybaby and sore loser like Enema. he cries more and louder than “Chillon” Cintron following another beatdown by Margarito . . . which is aNother FACT, Btw.

Posted February 20, 2014 7:58 pm 


Mexican

That’s Public enemy though, if it’s natinoal jibes, you ignore it, not reply with the same thing.

Posted February 20, 2014 7:53 pm 


Gallinas de Puerco Chico

@mexican- I think the better question should be why does Public Enemy get annoyed by mexicans so much that he feels it necessary to bring it out here on a boxing forum? Te tumbo, he simply counters everything Public Enemy says. He (public enemy) has mouth diarrhea, just doesnt know when to stop.

Posted February 20, 2014 7:50 pm 


Mexican

This is Boxing, who wins, who is the best is the best.

Posted February 20, 2014 7:47 pm 


Mexican

te tumbo don’t like Puerto ricans, why.

Posted February 20, 2014 7:46 pm 


Gallinas de Puerco Chico

Like Tumbo said. Aint no shame in going out with a bang. But the truth is Cotto doesnt want to fight Canelo. Not even with that juicy offer of 10 mil. Hes trying to catch a 4 title but its not gonna be pretty for him. Sergio Martinez is gonna put down a beating on Cotto.

Posted February 20, 2014 7:44 pm 


te tumbo

“Cotto don’t need” $10 million?!? Btw, Cotto’s middleweight profile is paltry if not downright embarrassing. you notice that Mayweather doesn’t give a crap about titles. being #1 P4P and undefeated is what makes most sense to “Money”.

Posted February 20, 2014 7:39 pm 


Gallinas de Puerco Chico

Sergio Martinez by KO.

Posted February 20, 2014 7:35 pm 


Gallinas de Puerco Chico

Cheatin Chihuahuas De Messyhoe-
You do realize this is the END of your PR heroe, right? He is gonna get a beating.

Posted February 20, 2014 7:34 pm 


Havoc

Te tumbo: Cotto don’t need to fight Canelo, Lara and all others that you mention @154. Cotto don’t have to fight B level fighters cause he already proven his legacy and come what may Sergio is proven top dog so Cotto deserve to fight the best!

Posted February 20, 2014 7:26 pm 


Martin

@PEEJ

Well, after watching what Golovkin did to his compatriot, Macklin, I can’t say I blame Murray for not being in a rush to get in there with him. Perhaps he was hoping to get a fight with Barker first, which would have been a big fight in the UK, and raise his profile etc., but then given the latter’s hip problems it’s uncertain if he’ll be back at all. Still, I think Golovkin-Murray would be a good bout. For now, it seems Murray is being pressured to decide between Golovkin and Sturm. I won’t be surprised if he goes for the latter. That way he could fight for a unification bout with Golovkin (that is, if he gets past Sturm), which would mean a lot more money and publicity.

Posted February 20, 2014 7:07 pm 


te tumbo

Cotto has also never come close to facing Canelo, Kirkland, Lara, or Angulo who are all career-154lbrs. nothing wrong with Cotto trying to exit on a high-note but let’s not mistake it for a relentless campaign through the ranks. it’s more like an end-run to a marketing objective.

Posted February 20, 2014 7:05 pm 


te tumbo

dont’ mention “Chihuahuas” around Cotto. he fears them. not even $10 million and the “rivalry” is enough for Cotto to step up to the Canelo challenge.

Posted February 20, 2014 7:01 pm 


PEEJ

Obviously the Monty Carlo fight has now passed.

Posted February 20, 2014 6:46 pm 


PEEJ

Yeah he turned it down twice. The first time I read it wasn’t a lot of money offered and the 2nd time it was a better purse. Problem is he has Visa issues and he can’t come to the US. But they offered him the fight in Monte Carlo and he turned that down.

Posted February 20, 2014 6:45 pm 


Martin

On Murray/Golovkin, this from Boxrec news earlier today:

“According to Hatton Promotions, there are two world title offers on the table for St. Helens middleweight Martin Murray – a rematch with Felix Sturm in Germany or a Monte Carlo meet-up with fearsome Kazakh puncher Gennady Golovkin.

Hatton Promotions claims that Murray would earn a career best payday against Golovkin, and says that time is running out for him to make a decision.”

Posted February 20, 2014 6:37 pm 


moonshineman

This could be the Trout Cotto fight all over again.

Posted February 20, 2014 6:36 pm 


Martin

@demigawd

Good points.

“it could allow, say, Floyd, to demand that anybody who wants to fight for his 154lb title to come in at 151lbs, which essentially lowers the Jr. Middleweight division limit to 151lbs for anybody who wants a title shot. It’s not particularly fair, subverts the divisional weight system, and gives too much power to the champion.”

Yes, exactly. This is what I was getting at, though you put it better.

As for Murray vs Golovkin, that’s definitely a fight that should be made. Has Murray really turned it down?

Posted February 20, 2014 6:33 pm 


PEEJ

Cause Murray turned the fight down to fight GGG

Posted February 20, 2014 6:22 pm 


Rustybucket

Getting older also means getting heavier, it’s completely psychological too. Anyway catchweight fights should not be title fights.

Good point about GGG. Murray would be a real test for him.

Posted February 20, 2014 6:14 pm 


demigawd

That being said, I won’t lose a minute of sleep over a 159lb catchweight for this fight. We’re talking about someone who I don’t think has ever weighed in at exactly 160. IIRC, he weight 159 for the Chavez fight.

Posted February 20, 2014 6:05 pm 


deepwaterz12345

catch weights should be banned. some weight classes should be banned too. 8 weight classes are all boxing needs

Posted February 20, 2014 6:03 pm 


demigawd

Martin – I agree with you in spirit. While anyone who weighs between 154.1 – 160 is considered a middleweight, and therefore a catchweight anywhere in that range is considered a middleweight fight, I hate that it allows a titleholder to dictate a catchweight as a condition to fight for the title. It doesn’t apply in this case, because I suspect the challenger was the one who asked for the catchweight, but it could allow, say, Floyd, to demand that anybody who wants to fight for his 154lb title to come in at 151lbs, which essentially lowers the Jr. Middleweight division limit to 151lbs for anybody who wants a title shot. It’s not particularly fair, subverts the divisional weight system, and gives too much power to the champion.

IMO – catchweight fights should either be banned, or have no impact on divisional ratings. And they should be non-title bouts only.

Posted February 20, 2014 5:59 pm 


Martin

Btw, I agree with all those who are praising Cotto for being willing to take on everyone, though I feel he’s probably making a mistake moving up to 160. I expect Martinez to win despite the long layoff and his age. However, if Cotto does win, much kudos to him. He should then retire, a sure-fire HOFer, because if he goes on to fight for a unification with Golovkin, though it’d be a massive fight (and one I’d like to see), I think he’d end up revisiting his first fight with Margarito, except that Golovkin won’t need to the plaster of paris in his gloves to do the same sort of damage.

Posted February 20, 2014 5:49 pm 


Martin

Ah okay, thanks for clearing that up folks: I didn’t realise the belt could still be on the line when fighting at a catchweight.

I agree with those who have said that catchweights are BS (as if there aren’t enough divisions these days!), and this just makes it even more ridiculous: i.e. to be able to win the middleweight championship without having ever fought anyone at middleweight!

In fact, I hadn’t even realised that Canelo’s title was contested in his fight with Floyd, but that’s a good example: how can Floyd legitimately be regarded as the junior middleweight champ when he did not win it, and is not prepared to defend it, at 154? To me, this is just another example of all that’s wrong with professional boxing these days…

Posted February 20, 2014 5:40 pm 


Hec Dog

Anther fight 5 years too late. Both guys are way past their primes. Martinez looked like an old fading fighter in his lat fight, and should have lost. He’s breaking down rapidly and has not been active in a long time. Cotto last fought a scared, intimidated fighter that wanted no part of Cotto. He made Cotto look better than he is. This will involve a lot of moving and little punching. Unless martinez breaks down totally, which is possible looking at his last fight, he should be able to win a decision. Cotto has the bigger name, and the crowd favorite, but these guys both need to call it a day. The young guns easily beat both of them. Fight fans will like this fight only because of their names.

Posted February 20, 2014 5:37 pm 


Rustybucket

Martinez may have said that, (personally I can’t recall him saying it).
But when was the last time he actually fought at 154.

Posted February 20, 2014 5:21 pm 


PEEJ

Considering every Martinez fan out there says he is a small middleweight he should have no issues making 159. Not to mention he says he can make 154 so this should be no problem at all. Hopking Cotto wins because Martinez is overrated. Cotto is no 154 pound fighter so he is especially no middleweight.

Posted February 20, 2014 5:15 pm 


Rustybucket

Hate catchweight fights, Fight at the designated weights or not at all.

It also always benefits the guy moving up instead of the guy moving down. It’s tough as hell losing that extra couple of pounds below your fighting limit.

Have to favour Cotto at catchweight.

Posted February 20, 2014 5:05 pm 


Anonymous

Cooto too small for martinez, too many people are cutting martinez down.. he has been injured for quite some time, now he has a good amount of time to heal up.. its going to be a whitewash, martinez by stoppage

Posted February 20, 2014 5:00 pm 


deepwaterz12345

cotto just trying to get every little advantage he can. he is the ticket seller in this one not sergio.

Posted February 20, 2014 4:49 pm 


demigawd

Martin – they can fight for the middleweight title even at a catchweight, as long as the weight is no higher than 160lbs. I agree, I don’t see what difference a pound makes, but if Cotto finds it psychologically comforting and Martinez doesn’t care because he’s a small middleweight anyway, then bless.

Posted February 20, 2014 4:39 pm 


Dr. Phil Thieze-Knutz

As long as the catch weight is under the division limit then it doesn’t effect the title. This just happened with lil Floyd winning Alvarez’s 154 title at a 152 catch weight.

Posted February 20, 2014 4:36 pm 


Boxtradamus

Martinez by MERCIFUL stoppage. Just as I predicted before the Fight was officially announced.

Posted February 20, 2014 4:18 pm 


Anonymous

a catchweight and a ppv. total bullsh#t.

Posted February 20, 2014 4:11 pm 


Martin

What’s the point, even…

Posted February 20, 2014 4:08 pm 


Martin

What the point of making it at a 159lb catchweight? That means that even if Cotto wins, he won’t win a middleweight title/belt, and yet (presumably) Martinez will get to keep his WBC and Ring titles. WTF? A catchweight of 156 or 157 I could (just about) understand, but if Cotto is going to 159 he might as well go to 160 and fight for the WBC title, surely?

Posted February 20, 2014 4:07 pm 


boxs

Another fight on PPV

Posted February 20, 2014 4:03 pm 


Havoc

Cotto will win! Younger and more aggressive!

Posted February 20, 2014 3:46 pm 


deepwaters1234

if martin murray can beat him down in his home country then cotto will outwork him at msg on p-rican parade weekend. easy money on cotto. sparring pac will get him used to speed

Posted February 20, 2014 3:33 pm 


detroitko

Martinez gonna run then lose by KO! COTTO COTTO!!!

Posted February 20, 2014 3:32 pm 


te tumbo

“Cotto goes for history” and forfeits the “rivalry”(?) along with a guaranteed $10 million. bottomline, the primary motivation for this matchup is that both fighters believe that the other is vulnerable and on their last legs. this ain’t going the distance. Cotto will predictably fatigue in the mid- to later-rounds and Martinez will take him out with awkward angles and southpaw powershots.

Posted February 20, 2014 3:25 pm 



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