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Rich

All Bunny had to do in the first place when Pacq called him out was say “yes”..But since that time he has minced about with every excuse imaginable.He has not said “yes” ever and now he has lost the one excuse he hung his argument on “Peds”….People blame Arum…but why,If you have any sense there is not one reason Arum would not want this…

Posted October 7, 2012 2:35 pm 


bikermike

always nice to hear from good ‘ol honest …warm and compassionate …piller of business ethics….gentleman….bobsarum. In some quarters….legs just get wet…with anticipation

Posted October 5, 2012 11:45 pm 


jason

and the comment, he missed out on floyd giving him a pay day… are you mad.. pac prior to the last few years, carried the whole sport on his shoulders, he was a global star and still is… what a truly stupid comment, that is a pure fan boy only comment.
Floyds biggest pay day by far will be with pac, because pac brings huge numbers too. he brings a whole continent……

Posted October 5, 2012 2:54 pm 


jason

peej – again, no real logic.. when mayweather did the drug thing he put him in a situation. or in otherwords stuck between a rock and a hard place, he couldnt just say flat out no could he, again naive, because everyone would ask why… there has to be reason.. and there was one, he is on record say he felt that blood testing (which he passed) weakened him for his most significant loss (morales) and he gave numerous reasons as to why it might of.. of course he is going to have a problem with doing it again against a fighter who already has many inherent advantages in terms of size, reach etc, not to mention basic skills, since he has been trained by two world champions since the day he could walk…. Peej, you believe what you want, but really you are just falling for his bluff like a typical fan boy, ie you want to believe him.

Posted October 5, 2012 2:25 pm 


Pain

It’s as simple as this: Floyd is hesitant to fight and Manny is not. Manny is never afraid of Floyd. Floyd is mostly scared of losing. Floyd can’t and won’t intimidate Pac. If Floyd just dropped all the BS demands, then the fight would’ve been made a long time ago. And he would’ve been already handed his first loss. Or two.

Posted October 5, 2012 1:57 pm 


Blaze

malachi – You seem to avoid most every question I ask. What demands has Pac made? All he’s said so far is that he’ll bend to Floyd’s demands. And did you really say Pac isn’t in the position to make offers? lol! How do you figure? That’s like Tyson saying that Evander didn’t have leveragae to throw out offers because he was the bigger draw when they fought. That’s ridicules. How is Pac supposed to let Floyd know what he wants if he can’t even offer him anything. It’s starting to sound like you are in actuality biased towards Floyd, but are trying your best to be fair and reasonable. Unfortunatley if you look at your comments you’ll see that you make excuses for Floyd and subtly lay blame on Pac EVEN when Pac is submitting to Floyd. lol! Like before you said that Pac is in position to make some demands, then you said that Pac isn’t in position to make offes. wtf? How can you get what you want without making any offers? It’s like I said before. I put most of this on Floyd only because since this started FLoyd has made more and more demands and Pac has submitted more and more to make the fight happen. It’s only logic.

Posted October 5, 2012 11:58 am 


malachi

like i stated it’s def an ego thing for both parties but just the fact that mannys coming out and making the demands enrages mayweather because he’s in position to make the offers not pac but yes also like i was stating floyd needs to step up and start negotiating with bob and vice versa,i’m still saying the same things aint nothing changed but the weather ….eazy!

Posted October 5, 2012 11:36 am 


Blaze

malachi – Last I heard Manny said publicly that he would take 45% and give Floyd 55% and was willing to to submit fully to testing. Now if you compare their fights it’s easy to see that the 55/45 split is very fair and what FLoyd wanted which is the larger share. Pac is also submitting to Floyd’s other demand for OST. How is that negotiating the majority of the deal in any way? What demand has Floyd met that Pac has brought to the table? I can’t think of ONE.

Posted October 5, 2012 10:14 am 


God Save The Queen

@ Teepee

Fraud Willnever is going to Wrestle Mania. Do not be supprised if he does not fight again.. He has hand picked all his fights since his retirement before the JMM fight. One word sums up the Fraudmister and that is ” CHICKEN “

Posted October 4, 2012 11:30 pm 


teepee

all bs lol

Posted October 4, 2012 10:30 pm 


where’s the stadium?

Where is the damn outdoor stadium?

Posted October 4, 2012 9:54 pm 


Peej

See I don’t want to see the fight. Floyd would play with Manny. And when you can’t have a cut off date with random drug testing. Pac should of just said no instead of coming up with excuses. I agree he shouldnt have to take the random test that Floyd has demanded but since other fighters have done it to fight Floyd that now means all fighters have to do it. Floyd agreed to 50/50, ring size, glove size and the ridiculous demand of 10mil for every pound over weight and all Floyd asked for was the random test and Pac could only come up with excuses. So now he does not get that giant payday from Floyd.,

Posted October 4, 2012 9:16 pm 


teepee

this is the samething that stop the fight before arum is pachoe pimp be a man pac and fight floyd but lets keep it real this fight has last its steam and i can careless if they fight at this point floyd can fight somebody else and pacman can fight the same old fighters like he do

Posted October 4, 2012 9:02 pm 


benjie

are you still arguing the same things? no end.. just insisting what one thought. what if they will fight on the said date..? when did anybody predicted correctly the intentions and moves of arum? mayweather pac could be that april something thing..

Posted October 4, 2012 8:23 pm 


jason

anyways- who cares about splits and that crap, i dont care who gets whats, i just wanted to see the fight, i say wanted, not want, as the fight has no appeal to me now, i would like to see mayweather vs martinez at 154.. i think would be a great scrap, i still have may as favourite, but not a completely clear one…..

Posted October 4, 2012 8:17 pm 


jason

peej – how naive are you, in the first round he said the drug thing to stall it, its obvious, it was 28 days pac agreed, then 14, then 7 and kept agreeing and may kept moving the goal posts… anyone with an ounce of common sense knows that 7 days minus the 3 day before the fight as there is testing straight after, leaves only 4 days to take anything, PED’s take a lot longer to work, unless its a quick boost fix, but that is done on fight day or the day before, which with blood testing straight after rules it out…. Peej, if you look at it with a bit logic you would see mayweather didnt want the fight at that time, because he wasnt in a good bargaining position. simple as that. Thats my take on it… your take is basically: its all pacs fault, mayweather was just trying do the right thing for the sport and is completely not at fault, I’m sorry mate, but that is nothing than a fan boy opinion…

Posted October 4, 2012 8:12 pm 


Peej

Just so you know Jason the fight was already agree apon the first time the negotiated. Floyd agree to everything Manny wanted including the money. Floyd only asked for a random drug test and Manny came up with a bunch of excuses instead of just saying no. Which is what he should of done. Now Floyd is the one that brings in most of the money so he now deserves the lions share of the money

Posted October 4, 2012 6:34 pm 


Peej

Fact is Pac said he would take less than 50% in the last time they tried to negotiate and then came back and said he wanted 50%. Then they came out with an bogus excuse saying Floyd already has a date in mind with the May 5th date and that is not how you negotiate so this is obvious that Pac has no intention of fight Floyd next since he has already has a date scheduled. Arum will never let this fight happen and after Marquez beats Pac he will retire

Posted October 4, 2012 6:19 pm 


jason

mayweather is to blame for the fight not happening earlier that i think is obvious when you really look at the sequence of events without any bias glasses on…. But i dont think it was because he was scared, doesnt fit, i think it was solely because he wants the lion share of the richest fight in history, and when this whole thing started all those years ago, pac was the king, fighter of the decade and all that and floyd had been inactive, there was no way he could have commanded more, hell he probably would have been offered less at first. Hence he starts the drug thing, makes pac look bad and gets himself back in the game. Now of course he is the top boy again, but the fight has lost its appeal, i think he may have now stalled it too long and the opportunity has gone. I for one have no interest anymore, unless pac fights like his old self in the forth coming marquez fight… Of course this is all speculation, but floyd is business minded, it just fits his persona.

Posted October 4, 2012 5:38 pm 


REM

Malachi 2 valid points but 80 percent of the blame for this fight which will cement these 2 fighters legacies not being made rest at Floyds feet and 20 percent of the blame is kinda steep for saying Pacs cut wont be healed and he wants to build a new arena for the fight. I’ll give the rest of the percentage points to Pac not doing exactly everthing Floyd tells him to.

Posted October 4, 2012 4:43 pm 


malachi

and yes arum controls what is happening as well as floyd…eazy!

Posted October 4, 2012 4:12 pm 


malachi

rem` yeah but at catch weight or drained so thats going to haunt him..um jus sayn thow!!

Posted October 4, 2012 4:11 pm 


REM

Pac requested a 24 day cutoff for rbts Floyd said 14 days Pac compromises and agrees to 14 days Floyd changes his demand to 7 days BUT ARUM IS STOPPING THE FIGHT. PAC again compromises and agrees to a 7 day cutoff point however Floyd changes his demand yet again and says no cut off date BUT ARUM IS STOPPING THE FIGHT. So Pac agrees to full rbts and Floyd retires BUT ARUM IS STOPPING THE FIGHT LMMFAO. Floyds says Pac ur next and when asked about it the next day claims he didnt say it BUT ARUMS STOPPING THE FIGHT. Floyd offers Pac 40 mil for a fight that will do 200 mil because of Pac BUT ARUMS STOPPING THE FIGHT ROTFLMMFAO. Floyd isnt a waste of talent because hes made tons of money off a bunch of suckers who are really at fault for the fight not happening because they enable this coward but his legacy is garbage he will join Calzalge and Marciano which isnt a bad class to be in but the great Pacman will join Ali, Robinson, Leonard, Hagler and Duran all fighters with a couple of loses because they fought the best.

Posted October 4, 2012 4:06 pm 


malachi

i know u were just using timmy as an example but were talking about floyd who has the reigns and bob needs to sit down with him and negotiate and let that pride slide,but i’m not even sweating this fight anymore to tell you the truth my focus has shifted over to Andre Ward and his next match ups as well as the flash….eazy!

Posted October 4, 2012 3:41 pm 


malachi

blaze` were not talking about timmy getting the lion share of course not and i never said any such thing, im talking about floyd getting the lion share because he generates the most #s its fact and plus pac last two fights he arguably lost im not saying he shouldn’t have some say but he sure as heck shouldn’t be on tv making it seem like he should be the one negotiating the majority of the deal,no sir!!……eazy!

Posted October 4, 2012 3:36 pm 


Boxtradamus

Pac and Arum are both SISSIES. IF they were REAL MEN they would SAY that our next Fight is WHENEVER Mayweather wants it.

Posted October 4, 2012 3:31 pm 


malachi

rca`no mayweather doesn’t really act like a grown man but he should get the healthier part of the monies imo…yuup!

Posted October 4, 2012 3:30 pm 


TJ

IF THERE’S ANY JUSTICE in this world, then Dinamita will beat Pacman in their fourth encounter!!!
But, in order to do this he will probably have to nail Pac’s feet to the floor before he gets a fair decision from the judges…
The ledger really should be 1-1-1 between these two gladiators right now as Dinamita won their last bout fairly convincingly….
to my mind the fire has gone out of Pac of late as witnessed by his performances vs an ancient Sugar Shane , where Pac was either unwilling or unable to pull the trigger against a man who posed no offense at all… Then he was systematically outboxed by Dinamita for huge chunks of their trilogy fight only to get an undeserved nod from the Three Blind Men at ringside and most recently, he boxed with no desire against a man who had two busted ankles but still mustered only feeble offense, unable or unwilling to sustain this…..
He may have one last hurrah, but my hunch is that Dinamita has the greater desire and a score to settle and will pound out a unanimous decision over Pacman and will send him on his way to his new career in politics!

Posted October 4, 2012 3:03 pm 


Blaze

malachi – All you keep saying is that Pac lost “argueably” his last two times out. JMM vs Pac was still a PPV success and Tim vs Pac did well considering Pac’s opponent. What does the money have to do with the wins? Since when is it a rule that the one most currently successful in their last fights gets free pass on negotiations? Again, do you think if Pac fought Tim in a rematch that Tim should get the lion’s share? You haven’t justified your stance. What does Pac having a tough fight with a top P4P fighter and getting a bad decision fin the Bradley fight have to do with negotiations? Pac has proven to be for all intents and purposes just about as valuable as Floyd. Why should he simply let Flody call all the shots? What about the fact that Pac’s fights are generally more entertaining and more often? You can’t just take one part of their performances and try to thinly justify things when it comes to the business side of it. If a fighter has a record of 21-15 and lost his last three fights, but we know he’ll generate 1 million ppv buys (imaginary circumstance), we aren’t going to pay him less than a 24-0 undefeated Mexican fighter who can’t fill a highschool gym on May 5th. The only question is how much can each fighter generate as far as $$. That’s the only negotiation leverage. Wins and losses effect this MOST times, but not in this case.

Posted October 4, 2012 2:18 pm 


rca

Malachi – Manny would have drop (not settle) his lawsuit if Floyd agreed to fight him. Any logical thinking boxing fan would discern that all his excuses and unreasonable demands for not fighting Pac are just that – excuses born out of fear. He admitted on video that he is a coward, albeit a rich one when pressured to give a definitive reason why he would not fight Pac. By the way, do you really believe that Floyd behaves like a grown man?

Posted October 4, 2012 2:17 pm 


malachi

Joseph` what’s good my man. Arum is the promoter who is responsible for any of pacmans fights taking place which you would hear pac man says ,il fight whoever ,it is up to my promoter bob arum after every fight right? Bob hates floyd, floyd use to be under him blah blah blah you know the story about all of that right?,ok ! floyd is trying to get the majority of the revenue, ppvs, you name it floyd knows that this fight would generate mucho denaro ..bob is holding this fight hostage making up things thats not true and making up all he could so that floyd isn’t headling this fight and doing what he wants with it,in all fairness bob has the right to protect pacmans stature and make sure they are getting a fair share but a fight at this magnitude and popularity bob should be able to sit down with mayweather personally and make this thing history…i blame bob because i think manny would fight in a heart beat and i think pac may be in negotiation breech of contract if he jumps out the window and make this fight on his own and he’s probably very grateful that bob has been negotiating and made him who he is today so a strong sense of loyalty is in the air as well,i blame floyd because he could be a lil more realistic because he isn’t generating by himself and manny is a huge name he just has to bend a bit more so there you have the short version…..yuuup!

Posted October 4, 2012 1:52 pm 


malachi

RCA` these are grown men, pac n team should have set out a challenge by any means necessary instead of running to (THE MAN)and telling on mayweather ,that should have got pac mad instead of making him look a bit soft in my opinion..but that’s just the street in me talking pac did have a right to do what he did for deformation of character but jeez i wouldn’t have done that if i fought for a living .if it hurt me that much i would have made floyd pay on the canvas….eazy!

Posted October 4, 2012 1:32 pm 


Joseph Herron

It’s really entertaining read everyones’ opinions on how Arum is to blame for the May/Pac fight not happening, but no one ever explains how.

I would really appreciate if someone logically explained to me how Bob Arum is to blame for Mayweather/Pacuqiao not taking place.

Most people don’t realize that it’s merely a product of herd mentality.

Posted October 4, 2012 1:29 pm 


malachi

Blaze` so you mean to tell me that pac still has the right to make the demands he’s making?…i’m going to def have to disagree with you there my man,because pac wouldn’t be the only one putting butts in seats this time floyd has proven that he is a huuuge draw love em or hate em the truth is in the #s but he also lost the power of negotiating this particular mega fight because of his last two showings and not just that but against the oponents he was facing,one which happened to be marquez who didn’t win a round against floyd who arguably beat pac.i agree that (floyd needs to do some more to try n make this thing a reality) but pac/arum just don’t have the success at the current time to make the majority of the demands it just wouldn’t make sense no matter how it comes out it just wouldn’t make sense….yuuup!

Posted October 4, 2012 1:26 pm 


Cary Simmons

LOL after Manny’s 5th official loss?

Posted October 4, 2012 1:17 pm 


rca

dole out money, I meant .

Posted October 4, 2012 1:00 pm 


rca

The ducker Floyd will never fight Manny. He already lost to Manny in the courts twice and he would never risk losing to Pac again, this time in the ring for all the world to see. For him and his criminal clan to issue tjhe legal statement of apology and dole out big Manny for their stupid lies will stick in Floyd’s sociopathic mind for a long time. A loss to Pac in the ring will probably drive him insane.

Posted October 4, 2012 12:58 pm 


E in Denver

Everyone that is involved with this Non-fight is trying to kill it. May as well let it die. Arum does need to be removed from the equations IF the fight will ever happen.

Posted October 4, 2012 12:54 pm 


Blaze

malachi – since when do losses dictate negotiation ability? You mean if Pac was to fight Bradley in a rematch he should take less because he lost the last time ou knwing Tim can’t fill a baseball glove with fans? Because he had a close fight with JMM and as you say”argueably” lost should Tim have gotten the bigger cut being undefeated? Of course not. Manny can put the buts in the seats so he has the right to set some terms. And Pac doesn’t have to be as dumb as Halger was in order to prove he wants to fight Floyd. When does Floiyd have to show us that he wants it? Sicne the start of this what’s ONE legitimate thing Floyd has done to try to make this fight happen? All I’ve seen him do is say he let Pac have everything he wanted and all he wanted was the OST. Now it’s OST, purse split, venue, and date. floyd is acting as if this is like when he fought Oscar and it’s not. He wassn’t even close to Oscar’s PPV numbers. But Pac is close to his. Let’s not act like Pac doesn’t have room to make demands.

Posted October 4, 2012 12:36 pm 


malachi

i would like to see floyd mix it up with martinez as his last huraahh fight to really test the waters,martinez natuarally fights at 160 so i think that fight could wait but in the mean time both floyd n martinez could build up their resemes to make that fight a huge mega fight at the end of the careers of both beautiful skilled boxers….yuuup!

Posted October 4, 2012 11:57 am 


malachi

chicago guy` don’t you mean pacman should accept a fight with floyd on floyds terms .he gets in the eye of the media and tries to twist it like he is the one trying to make the fight !if that’s the case then throw the ball in floyds court and just say lets do it on your terms because he did agree to get the smaller purse right? i believe pac has no room to negotiate right now sorry, he arguably lost his last two match ups……eazy!

Posted October 4, 2012 11:51 am 


Blaze

Mbuyiseli – Losing has nothing to do with purse split. Purse split is about ability to generate money. If I lost my last three fights, but I’m guarenteed to sell over a million PPV buys do you think he’ll take the smaller purse to a guys who’s undefeated, but can’t fill a classroom with boxnig fans who want to see him fight? lol! I don’t think it should be 50/50, I think it should be 45/45 and 10% to the winner. That’s more interesting.

Posted October 4, 2012 11:51 am 


Blaze

malachi – I like the idea of a Canelo fight, but I don’t think it’ll be hard at all. All he’s got is power in there with Floyd. He doesn’t have a style or stance that would give Floyd any trouble. And I think Flyd could be a natural jrMW if he actually tried. If Pac can weigh in at 147lbs Floyd can work his way up to 154lbs. I agree that Floyd will go witht he money. I think it’ll be Canelo or Bradley next for Floyd. The Tim fight makes the most sense to me considering the gain and the risk. Martinez would be nice at 154lbs, but I doubt that’ll happen after Martinez vs Chavez jr.

Posted October 4, 2012 11:45 am 


malachi

Blaze`floyd n timmy would be a good match up and would probably make a lot of dough but would timmy generate the most,maybe not /even though he arguably beat pacman the majority of the fans didn’t buy it so that may lose some luster but because he is undefeated and with floyds star power it may generate massively but that’s more of a chance than a guarantee and i think floyd is in a position in his life where he’s not going to risk a flop but maybe if timmy get a few good wins under his belt then its a diffr story,i think floyd is going to sit back and brainstorm for now…..yuuup!

Posted October 4, 2012 11:37 am 


malachi

i actually wouldn’t mind seeing floyd against canelo,which i think would be a tough fight for floyd being that canelo is a young hungry beast ,floyds next move is going to depend on $$$ which ever fight makes the most sense that’s where floyd is going eventhough he is a natural welter weight the canelo match would be interesting to say the least….eazy!!

Posted October 4, 2012 11:27 am 


Blaze

malachi – I think it’s ego too, but not with concern to Tim. Tim was supposed to be a sacrifice for Pac, but Tim got by on a bad decision. Now Arum finds himself with two fighters who can score good paydays with Floyd. I think the ego comes in with the Floyd vs Pac fight becasue it’s a record breaker for promotion. Oscar and Floyd left Arum out and set the PPV record in which Oscar gets the promotional credit for. This is the problem. Now that Floyd is getting older he wants to do the same thing Oscar did, but Pac is promoted by Arum who wants the promotion recognition. I agree that its’ an ego thing with Floyd vs Pac, but I reallly believe he’ll throw Tim in there with Floyd. Tim has nothing to offer as far as Arum’s ego is concerned, but Pac can put Arum in the record books. He can basically make Arum the champion of promoters by giving him the PPV record and highest grossing fight record. Floyd would actually be doing Arum a favor fighting Tim as it would serve Arum the most out of all the people involved.

Posted October 4, 2012 11:21 am 


Blaze

Caliba – When did Arum EVER offer the April date to Floyd? Floyd said he set May 5th specifically for Pac vs FLoyd. Arum simply set a date in April for Pac’s next fight with a fighter TBA. How is that the same? And it makes no sense to lose to Bradley and then be afraid that FLoyd will beat him. Why be afraid? Didn’t Pac already lose a few times. Didn’t he lose to Morales with Arum? Did Pac’s loss to Tim change his ability to generate millions? NOPE! So give me a reason Arum would avoid a Pac loss when being undefeated was never part of Pac’s persona and doesn’t seem to effect his ability to make money.

Posted October 4, 2012 11:07 am 


malachi

Blaze`to the common sense eye that makes the most sense all around for us all but I just don’t think Arum is going to be able to make that fight because he would have to submit to floyd controlling the upkeep of the negotiating and event and it seems to me like it’s an ego thing for both parties Arum just doesn’t want floyd to hold the reigns in any of their fights that’s why I don’t see pac and floyd coming off either ,believe me i used to believe but these days i can see clearer now the rain is gone…yuuup!

Posted October 4, 2012 11:02 am 


Granpa

Hatton will be looking for this fight by December… 3 quick wins will do it! Everyone will say he doesn’t deserve the shot but money talks and so long as he wins it’ll happen. Lets hope ricky has been rejuvinated by the layoff.

Posted October 4, 2012 10:59 am 


CALIBA

Didnt Arum critisize Floyd for trying to schedule a fight with Pac in advance when he wanted to fight him in May? Then he turns around and does the same thing…smh. whether you guys,wany to admit it or not Bob Arum is keeping pac away from Floyd and it is so easy to see.

Posted October 4, 2012 10:52 am 


Blaze

Hidalgo – You gotta remember that he needs to be at the top of his game physically and mentally. Yeah he was only in for a couple months, but that can be very draining on the psyche depending on the individual. Not only that, but physically he wasn’t able to have the same quality work outs as on the outside. He coudln’t spar AT ALL and didn’t even have a place to really shadow box and keep sharp. I’m not saying that small time in jail will change him, but to fight Pac right out of jail is too much to ask him to do. In jail isn’t like being retired. A retired fighter still works out and mentally stays the same. Jail is more like womeone takingyour car and putting it in an impound lot for 60 days. And this isn’t a new car, it’s a used one with a good amout of miles already on it. Would you expect your car to be exactly the same after that 60 days of sitting in a lot?

Posted October 4, 2012 10:35 am 


Hidalgo

Blaze, I don’t see how Floyd would need a “warmup fight” after being in jail for only two months. It’s not like he didn’t get to fight for five years. Six months should be plenty IMO then Floyd should be ready to go. That being said, it’s Floyd’s call, not mine.

Posted October 4, 2012 9:44 am 


MNboxingFAN – Sean

Well considering Mayweather usually only fights in MAY… you can bet it won’t be Floyd.

Posted October 4, 2012 8:54 am 


h8er

if this is what’s going on then why was pac talking on that CRAP on espn

Posted October 4, 2012 8:51 am 


Blaze

malachi – And I don’t see whyArum wouldn’t have him fight fLoyd. Bradley is a ticking clock who Arum actually expected to lose to Pac anyway. Tim is now like a lamb that can be sacrificed twice. He made millions with him fighting Pac and a bad dicision was made. Now he can have Tim fight Floyd(which would have never been able to happen if the combination of Floyd going to jail and Tim getting a bad decision over Pac happened at the same time) and make several million he never anticipated making. Arum knows Tim isn’t a Pac or Floyd level $$ generater so he’s gotta cash Tim in quick. All this about Arum not wanting his fighters to lose makes no sense to me. Except for Bradley who Arum just signed, what other top fighter of his is undefeated? lol! It doesn’t make sense for him to be running from defeats. Did Pac’s loss to Tim seem to change anything about the money Pac is generating? NOPE! just look how the JMM IV fight is selling.

Posted October 4, 2012 8:09 am 


Blaze

Malachi – Actually I was a little off. Floyd vs JMM did just over 1 million buys (1,050,000). Either way you get my point. Pac does huge PPV numbers with JMM. Floyd isn’t stupid enough to let Pac fight JMM and score 1.5 mil buys and then he fight him right after and get jsut over a million again.

Posted October 4, 2012 8:04 am 


Blaze

John – You obviously don’t have much experience in the sport. Style ALWAYS matters no matter what level the fighters are at. BTW, Pac and FLoyd are on the same level. Of course one of them is better than the other, but they are both upper echelon HOF legendary fighters. And that move you love so much isn’t all that and it only works on brawlers and Pac isn’t a brawler. And just becasue Floyd handled JMM and Pac struggles with him doesn’t mean Floyd will walk through Pac. What about how Pac demolished Hatton in 2 rounds and Floyd had to take 10 rounds to wear him down? Ali had three close fights with Norton. Foreman KO’d Norton in the 2nd round and Ali KO’d Foreman. How do you explain this is styles don’t make fights at the upper echelon level?

Posted October 4, 2012 8:01 am 


malachi

Blaze`now you know arums not going to allow bradley to fight mayweather not even over his dead body,and mayweather/marquez i thought did just over 1 million…eazy!

Posted October 4, 2012 7:58 am 


Chicago guy

Malachi,
Jailboy is joke and sissy no balls to accept the fight he’s scared to death.

Posted October 4, 2012 7:57 am 


malachi

pac and his pimp arum has lost everybodies respect awhile ago,pac arguably lost his last two fights ,he has no room to negotiate on his terms mayweather has earned those rights pacman and his daddy are jokes to boxing………yuuuuup!

Posted October 4, 2012 7:54 am 


Blaze

I don’t see how anyone could have thought Floyd would get out of jail and fight Manny within the first 9 months of his release. He first needs to take a warm up fight, then he can think about Manny. Making the April date is logical. Floyd hasn’t even scheduled a fight yet so there’s no way he could have a fight and then have a match with Pac by April. I wouldn’t expeect a match between them could be made unless it was in the later part of 2013 or after. And there’s no way JMM is in the mix of opponents Floyd can choose from considering he’s fighting Pac in December. Besides that, Floyd vs JMM didn’t ven sell a million PPV buys. Floyd would be an idiot to make a fight that may pull low PPV numbers before negotiating a purse split with Pac. His best bet is to fight Bradley. The numbetrs may be low but he’ll likely beat Pac’s PPV numbers by some. Then he could keep his negotiation leverage with Pac and have a valid, but easy enough fight right out of jail.

Posted October 4, 2012 7:52 am 


Ike

I am not purchasing anymore Pacquiao or Mayweather fights until they fight each other. Mayweather is waiting for Pacquiao to wear himself out vs. tough opponents. Arum is going to milk Manny and wait ’til the very last moment to make the fight. The fight is overdue and has lost its luster. Boxing politics are so self-destructive.

Posted October 4, 2012 7:50 am 


Chicago guy

No need to wait for jailboy to accept the fight against Pacquiao, the show must go on. Boxing don’t need him Pacquiao does.

Posted October 4, 2012 7:43 am 


Joseph Herron

OMG, John…since when does the age old adage, “Styles make fights” not apply in boxing?

Floyd and Pacman’s greatest asset is their natural athletic gifts. It’s what separates all elite level fighters from the rest of the pack.

If Mayweather knew he could easily have his way with Pacquiao, the fight would have happened a long time ago, John.

Posted October 4, 2012 7:30 am 


Joseph Herron

TsipaR7, is Bradley fighting Peterson? Last I heard, Peterson had to defend his IBF title against his mandatory opponent Zab Judah.

The only way Bradley fights Peterson is if he makes a special request to the IBF and gives them a retainer of $25K.

I don’t know if that kind of money is worth Bradley/Peterson. Neither Bradley or Peterson are major ticket sellers.

Posted October 4, 2012 7:25 am 


John

I don’t understand what the big deal is here. First of all Mayweather handled Marquez , pretty much with ease. Marquez fights Manny tooth and nail to a draw every time. What makes you think that Manny can compete with Floyd ? The old addage “styles make fights ” doesn’t apply here because when you get into the upper echelon of elite fighters like Mayweather they simply adjust within the first 2-3 rounds to fight a style and that’s usually that “! He’s bigger , carries the weight better, is a gym rat so probably works out twice as much as Manny, faster and has a HUGE reach advantage. Studying Floyd he also does this thing where he can smother a guys vision as he’s backing up then leads a guy to believe that his back is on the ropes – when the opponent senses that he begins to get a little careless and Floyd waits for him to “wing” punches now that Floyd is presumably trapped. But suddenly he takes a full step backwards – the opponent now is committed to the missed shot and wide open for Floyd to set and throw with a great deal of power and leverage. Watch some of his fights. ITS AN OBVIOUS BUT GREAT MOVE, CANNOT BE DETECTED BY ANYONE STANDING IN FRONT OF HIM.

Posted October 4, 2012 7:23 am 


ZukS

Who cares about what Arum does!

Posted October 4, 2012 7:10 am 


Joseph Herron

Can someone please explain to me why this move by Arum automatically equates to giving Mayweather the brush-off?

The author doesn’t do a very good job of explaining why this date rules out a bout with Mayweather.

Posted October 4, 2012 7:02 am 


The Kingslayer

Of course Arum does so that after the Marquez fight he can say once again ” we’ll fight Floyd after this one.” Bob Arum seriously needs to retire already.

Posted October 4, 2012 6:31 am 


PCBILL

If he beats ..marquez..how about fighting ricky hatton..on april 20th..its sure to do good ppv numbers..and then may be mayweather later towards the end of 2013..

Posted October 4, 2012 4:52 am 


TsipaR7

Pacamn is going to figt the winner of Bradley vs Peterson in April. I think they are making a big mistake by looking pass Juan Manuel Maguez. They should learn from Amir Khan.

Posted October 4, 2012 3:21 am 



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