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Floyd hasn’t had a tough fight. Cotto was the toughest and I had that 117-111. Lara would be tough. He’s a serious threat.

Posted February 25, 2014 6:41 pm 


Hidalg0

Correction:

With the exception of Miguel Cotto, Maidana is the toughest opponent that Floyd will have faced since Shane Mosley.

Posted February 25, 2014 10:37 am 


Hidalg0

“If anyone thinks Maidana can beat Floyd they haven’t seen Maidana’s Kotelnik fight… The guy can’t box and he out-boxed Maidana.”

Maidana fought Kotelnik way back in 2009 and that was before Robert Garcia became Maidana’s trainer. Now, I’m not saying that Maidana will beat Floyd, but Marcos is a much better boxer now than he was when he fought Kotelnik and a rematch between them today, would likely have a different outcome.

I think Maidana is the toughest and best opponent that Floyd will have faced since he fought Miguel Cotto. There will be no catchweights for this fight. Maidana has more power than Guerrero or Ortiz but he is markedly slower than Floyd and of course his defense is not on par with Mayweather’s.

What will be most important for Marcos is that he stay focused and not let his killer instinct override his boxing experience and his knowledge of Floyd as a fighter. If a shot Shane Mosley can seriously hurt Floyd, so can a stronger, younger, and more determined Marcos Rene Maidana. And Marcos won’t quit.

One of Marcos’ most effective weapons against Broner was his ability to effectively feint, lead Broner astray, then nail him with looping and/or wide shots. Marcos can do this to Floyd as well, but his opportunities to do so will be more hard to come by.

If Floyd does look to stop Maidana, he will be looking for the opportunity late in the fight or when he sees that Marcos is vulnerable because he has punched himself out or has just plain run out of gas as he did a couple of times in his fight with Adrien Broner. If Floyd sees Marcos looking like he did after the 11th round of his fight with Broner, Floyd will tear him up.

Posted February 25, 2014 10:35 am 


Luke

Mayweather Sr vs Reuben Gurrero will be more competitive….special guest referee, Angel Garcia!! Now this one is gonna sell some big PPV numbers!!!

Posted February 25, 2014 7:10 am 


TARK

This is Floyd’s last super easy fight…

After this fight he’ll have to fight Lara, Garcia, or Pacquiao.

If anyone thinks Maidana can beat Floyd they haven’t seen Maidana’s Kotelnik fight… The guy can’t box and he out-boxed Maidana.

Posted February 25, 2014 2:48 am 


Joseph Herron

Great to hear from you, Gary!!

Posted February 25, 2014 12:15 am 


GaryintheBronx

Great show – great point Joseph… Floyd is 9 weeks out from fight night and by math…. Thats less than 1500 hours he will be allowing for Showtime and friends to get this thing ready for attendee fans and PPV buys. The ghosty Robert fight had close to 4000 hours of prep and ended up costing the network Million$. I have a feeling that some lucky Vegas gamblers in the right spot will get free tickets. PPV revenue is going to be disasterous.

Posted February 24, 2014 11:29 pm 


Auzbox

Broner p4p top 10. I don’t think so. You just make up the list as you go. Boner is nothing but a bum

Posted February 24, 2014 10:35 pm 


Adrian

Peej

“Its not really a smart business move, especially since he hasn’t fought since April of last year. Fighting Alexander and beating him would of given him a belt plus much needed activity. If he was in fear of losing well thats part of the sport. If he lost he didn’t deserve the Floyd fight. But since he hasn’t fought at all especially at Welter then he really doesn’t deserve the Floyd fight.”

Ohh really? Then why was he considered as a possible opponent by mayweather then. ???

Stop making ridiculous escusses for mayweather because already !!!

I wonder what sredmond has to say now lol because he was mocking some fans here when they brought up the idea of Maidana fighting mayweather after broner fight… ??
Lol he disappeared from esb..lol

Posted February 24, 2014 10:04 pm 


Adrian

Boxtrasuckus

“Isn’t Maidana one dimension fighter like rios ???”-Nope. Maidana is a WW CHAMP who just defeated a Top 10 P4P Fighter. Rios is NOT.

Posted February 24, 2014 4:03 pm

Lol there are tons of champs out there who are one dimension fighters and time to time hold titles depends who they fight , salido was a champ too but we saw what happened to him when he fought Garcia or Gamboa…

Rios was a champ too and he had one loss by CLOSE decision against the boxer he stoped once before anyway ,Alvarado !
You can put a lipstick on a pig but he is still a pig!!!! Hahahahahaha

Posted February 24, 2014 9:59 pm 


Anonymous

I FOR 1 DONT CARE ANYMORE, I FIND HIS DUCKING AMUSING AND THATS WHY I TAKE A LOOK FROM TIME TO TIME.

Posted February 24, 2014 6:24 pm 


moonshineman

@Fraud May

Maidana wont do a damn thing to Mayweather and WE ALL know that.
Posted February 24, 2014 3:55 pm

Maidana would chase floyd all night while being pot shotted by mayweather. Fight over.

Posted February 24, 2014 5:47 pm 


Bulawayo2

I reckon Khan would be a better fight for Mayweather for as long as it lasts.
Mayweather handles Maidana easilly, another boring twelve rounder.
More action in the Khan fight until he gets tagged.

Posted February 24, 2014 4:57 pm 


Hidalg0

“Good posts, Hidalg0!

You’re getting good at this, man…LOL”

LOL! Thanks, Joseph. Now if someone would just pay me…

Posted February 24, 2014 4:49 pm 


Hidalg0

“Well Hissydalgo thinks that Maidana will drop Mayweather. SO you are INCORRECT.”

We’ll see.

Posted February 24, 2014 4:48 pm 


Boxtradamus

When you can defeat CHAMPS and its not even close thats called GOATNESS

Posted February 24, 2014 4:17 pm 


Boxtradamus

Well Hissydalgo thinks that Maidana will drop Mayweather. SO you are INCORRECT.

Posted February 24, 2014 4:05 pm 


Boxtradamus

“Isn’t Maidana one dimension fighter like rios ???”-Nope. Maidana is a WW CHAMP who just defeated a Top 10 P4P Fighter. Rios is NOT.

Posted February 24, 2014 4:03 pm 


Boxtradamus

Not to mention that I advised him MYSELF to take Maidana over Khan because beating 11 CHAMPS continues to WOW the record books while defeating a glass jawed SISSY does not. Easy choice.

Posted February 24, 2014 3:49 pm 


Boxtradamus

IF polls were irrelevant then Maidana would have never even been CHAMP. But its because he WON the poll to face Broner that he got his shot and he took advantage of it. Polls are the fans VOICE and IF you think that the fans VOICE should be irrelevant then you don’t have a GOOD understanding of business. The fans are the customers and in business the customer is the BOSS. So go take a business class. Floyd made the CORRECT move HERE.

Posted February 24, 2014 3:48 pm 


Boxtradamus

“The polls should be irrelevant”-NO they shouldn’t. The fans opinions SHOULD BE relevant. SO I COMMEND Floyd on that. He didn’t let Khan’s team hack into his own website poll and steal the Fight. He looked at the other polls and realized that something was wrong. SO he is taking the majority of ALL of the polls World wide which is what smart businessmen DO. Not just take the results of ONE poll where some TOMFOOLERY may have occurred.

Posted February 24, 2014 3:38 pm 


Joseph Herron

Good posts, Hidalg0!

You’re getting good at this, man…LOL

Posted February 24, 2014 3:05 pm 


Hidalg0

“Honor doesn’t pay my bills”

Floyd can afford to act with honor. He has nothing to lose by doing so.

Posted February 24, 2014 2:36 pm 


Hidalg0

“Garcia adapted.”

No he didn’t Classic.

What Danny did do was listen to his father, Angel Garcia. After the second round Angel told him that Amir was picking him apart and that he needed to calm down and not get flustered. He told him to throw the left and to step around. he wanted Danny to be more methodical and calculating, and patient. “Let’s work, man!”

Near the end of the third round however, Danny caught Khan with a hard left hook on Khan’s neck and right ear which sent Khan to the canvas. It took Khan through about the first minute of the fourth round to clear his head, but after he did he had nailed Danny with two good uppercuts and a nice left hook when Danny was on the ropes. They fought hard–Danny mainly throwing haymakers trying to get Khan out of there–until Danny caught Khan high on the left side of his forehead with a right and dropped him again. But before that happened, Khan had taken a lot of shots to his head, proving that he hardly had a glass chin as so many people claim.

Khan got up and backed into a neutral corner and Bayless gave him an 8-count and then asked him if he was okay. Khan shook his head affirmatively and clearly said, “I’m okay”, but Bayless waived him off and stopped the fight, even while Khan repeatedly told him he was okay. Premature sstoppage in my opinion as Khan was in much worse shape at the end of the third than he was when he got knocked down the second time in the fourth, but I understand that Bayless probably felt he had taken too much punishment up to that point in the fight.

But here’s the thing, by the end of the second round, Bayless had already warned Danny three or four times for low blows, one of which were very low. Danny hit Khan again with two low blows in the third and received another warning from Bayless. But Khan was still fighting well deep into the third round until Danny caught him with a left hook. Then in the fourth round, Danny nailed Khan with two more low blows and Bayless gave him yet another warning. But, at this point Bayless should have stopped the fight, penalized Danny 1 point for low blows, gave Khan up to five minutes to recover, then restarted the fight. Instead, Bayless did nothing but give yet another warning–for the fifth time. Danny hit Khan with yet another low blow after that.

BTW Classic, in case you didn’t know it, one of Bayless’ trademarks is letting fighters get away with excessive low blows. For some reason he is very slow and/or reluctant to penalize them for it.

Posted February 24, 2014 2:30 pm 


Hidalg0

“The poll on Mayweather’s site was rigged and Floyd is TOO smart for that. Every other poll had Maidana WINNING. ”

The polls should be irrelevant since Mayweather had already agreed to fight Khan and Schaefer had already announced that Maidana would be rematching Broner. Unfortunately, “honor” does not seem to be a word in Mayweather’s vocabulary because if he had some, he would have signed the contract and we’d all already know for sure that Mayweather was going to fight him.

Posted February 24, 2014 1:27 pm 


Hidalg0

“Nope. It means that Floyd would rather face a CHAMP than a glass jawed SISSY.”

Khan does not have a glass jaw. What he lacks is solid defense. So what we end up seeing is a guy who takes a lot of hits to the head.

Besides that, the ONLY sissy around here is you Boxtradamus. You are great at calling fighters names over the Internet, but I’d bet every dollar I have that you wouldn’t say the things you do here to their face.

Posted February 24, 2014 1:24 pm 


Hidalg0

“Its not really a smart business move, especially since he hasn’t fought since April of last year.”

Yes it is, Peej. If Khan would have fought Alexander and lost, his chances of fighting Mayweather would have vanished unless he won another title. By bypassing Alexander, Khan put himself directly in postion to get a shot at a fight with Floyd, and that’s what he was going for. It was a smart business move.

Posted February 24, 2014 1:20 pm 


PEEJ

Its not really a smart business move, especially since he hasn’t fought since April of last year. Fighting Alexander and beating him would of given him a belt plus much needed activity. If he was in fear of losing well thats part of the sport. If he lost he didn’t deserve the Floyd fight. But since he hasn’t fought at all especially at Welter then he really doesn’t deserve the Floyd fight.

Posted February 24, 2014 1:10 pm 


Hidalg0

“Nope. It means that Floyd would rather face a CHAMP than a glass jawed SISSY.”

Khan didn’t fight Alexander because he was a “sissy” or because he was afraid of him–he didn’t fight him because he didn’t want to jeopardize his chance to fight Floyd. That’s a smart business move.

Additionally, when Amir Khan fought and beat Marcos Rene Maidana, Maidana had lost only one fight, by Decision, and that was to Kotelnik, and Maidana had knocked out every other opponent he faced except for four.

Khan defended his WBA jr. welterweight title against Maidana, who was a tough, dangerous top contender for his title, and who was also the WBA Interim jr. welterweight champ when they fought.

Certainly Floyd will be facing a better “version” of Maidana today, and we can all thank Robert Garcia for that, but when Amir fought him, Maidana was the best he had ever been.

Khan has always been a brave warrior. If you want to throw rocks, Boxtradamus, throw them at GBP, not Amir Khan. Amir is not going around hunting for smaller fighters to fight. They were chosen for him.

Posted February 24, 2014 11:31 am 


Joseph Herron

You got that right, Bustajay!! LOL

It was a lot of fun though, wasn’t it?

I hope we can pick up where we left off this Sunday as well. LOL

We’ll have much to discuss after the dust settles this weekend!! Can’t wait!!

Thanks again for all of your input in last night’s program!! Ronnie, Gogue, JK and I had a lot of fun!!

Posted February 24, 2014 10:31 am 


BUSTAJAY

I think this Sunday wrap was fully charged because of Floyd. Emotions run high when it come to Floyd….LOL

Posted February 24, 2014 10:29 am 


Adrian

Styles make fights buddy , khan was winning a fight against Garcia and got cought by trading with Garcia instead of boxing from outside, Garcia didn’t do nothing different it was khan who got closer to Garcia and Traded with him , big mistake …

Garcia was wining a fight hit with Judah early on but he almost blew it by trying to finish him of a same mistake like khan , when you try to impress boxers usually end up doing the wrong thing.

Posted February 24, 2014 7:04 am 


Classic

Khan is a repeat offender. And he continues to have flaws that can be exposed and will be exposed by certain fighters.

Posted February 24, 2014 6:58 am 


Classic

Garcia adapted. he knew that he needed to place himself correctly in line with Khan when he throws and to throw with him.

Garcia himself said he didn’t think Khan could be that fast because he has been in with fast fighters before. So how fast could he be? Well, he said he learned in that first round how fast one could actually be. but he said things started to slow for him after he went a round with him. It was the initial speed that through him off but once he saw it, his mind was able to slow it down and he was able to start to pick up the timing. And given Khans technical faults as a fighter according to Garcia, he knew he was going to catch him.

Posted February 24, 2014 6:57 am 


Adrian

Clasic

Have you watched khan vs Garcia? It wasn’t that Garcia adapted, it was khan didn’t stick to trying to box but he thought he could ko Garcia but that was stupid because Garcia can punch and was unknown and underrated before khan and instead of trying to recover when was hurt he traded with Garcia wich is naive …. Khan can beat anyone in ww if he fight smart and with mayweather I see him fight from the outside and I am sure mayweather would have tough time scoring points against him at least much tougher then against maidana….

Just watch Alexander vs Maidana and you will see how much chance Maidana has to beat mayweather , none!

Posted February 24, 2014 6:20 am 


Classic

I think at this point, I’m just not sold on Khan of recent. His conditioning doesn’t even seem to be the same as when he lit up Paulie and Zab. I think that version could have given Floyd a tough fight even though Floyd is much better than both of them.

Maybe Khan can flip the switch again and get himself back. I just thinks he needs one Big Win to get the the Mayweather fight.

And I can agree that Maidana’s win over Broner is overrated. Garcia likes to hype it up but come on…Broner doesn’t belong in the WW division at this point. To think that has “earned” you a shot at Floyd is a bit of a stretch even if Broner had the title.

Better matchups out there for the fighter who can pick anyone (as long as they are not tied down by Arum)

Posted February 24, 2014 5:56 am 


Classic

Shane gave the edge to Maidana.

Interview is on youtube from Hustle boss.

Posted February 24, 2014 5:49 am 


Classic

Maidana is different but it’s not like he has dramatically changed to some supreme powerhouse. It’s enough to make him a bigger threat than he was before. He is technically better than before and he is in better shape.

Did you hear what Shane Mosely recently said about who would be tougher for Floyd?

It did make me think as well since I thought Khan’s speed, agility, and punch-out-put was the bigger threat. However, I also thought about how Garcia adapted and talked about how he was able to do it. Floyd would do the same since he is the best in the game. Peterson figured him out which is also what I thought Floyd saw in having Khan as a potential opponent.

Posted February 24, 2014 5:45 am 


Adrian

And yes I agree that Maidana deserves the fight more but he will be by far easier opponent for mayweather because of his style that is. ” tailor made” for mayweather ….

Posted February 24, 2014 5:38 am 


Adrian

Classic,
It could be that Maidana has a better camp and is better prepared than before but I don’t see a different Maidana in the ring I just saw a different opponent he faced like overated small lightweight broner who he beat with pressure and power just like he tried against khan but failed.

Posted February 24, 2014 5:36 am 


Classic

Neither Khan nor Maidana “deserve” the fight with Floyd. There are better fights to be made. But if you have to pick one who has earned it more it would be Maidana at this point.

Now if Khan had fought and beaten Devon Alexander, Yes, I would pick him over Maidana.

Posted February 24, 2014 5:33 am 


Classic

Adrian:

Maidana uses his jab more, especially with setting up his punches. He throws more in combinations that are thrown with purposeful intent of landing vital areas instead of just trying to bang at a target.

If this version of Maidana could beat Khan then or now depending on one’s opinion if Khan is better, the same, or even worse now than before…I don’t know.

What I am going by since I don’t have the facts is what some sources have said about what was going on with Maidana than compared to now.

Better Trainer for him, better training camp that is longer, and better people to spar can make a big difference.

I’m not saying Maidana is leagues above where he was but what does seem plausible is that he is that he is getting more out of his potential than before.

Posted February 24, 2014 5:29 am 


Adrian

And in am more than 100% sure Maidana would beat broner if he had fought before he faced khan just like he beat Ortiz ….

Posted February 24, 2014 5:15 am 


Adrian

@clasic , well we can only ” assume “if Maidana is different or is better than khan now but what we know for a fact is that KHAN BEAT MAIDANA once before …..

Posted February 24, 2014 5:14 am 


Classic

Adrian:

Khan’s not a “Sissy,” no way. He actually has a top notch heart. However, he doesn’t deserve the fight since his record hasn’t been good recently. Even in his last fight he didn’t look that great. He needs at least one BIG Win to face Floyd.

Maidana was different when Khan fought him. Garcia has made him better. And if further stories are correct that he wasn’t able to train appropriately because he didn’t have the luxury that other top notch fighters have, like Khan did for him, and this is according to Ariza as well who was filled in with the story, than that can make a big difference.

We’ve seen time and time again what a difference a Great Team, a Great Camp, can do for a fighter.

Floyd should fight someone else. Neither are worth watching.

Posted February 24, 2014 4:56 am 


Classic

Khan, Maidana, both are a waste of time and I don’t see how they are more deserving over others.

Khan’s last big win was against who?

Maidana beat a blown up LW.

Shame Bradley signed with Arum who knows full well that Floyd doesn’t do business with Arum.

Best fights for Floyd is at JrMW and MW. Yes, I know he weighs about 149 on fight night but it’s the challenge people are interested in.

Posted February 24, 2014 4:50 am 


Classic

Mosley said that Maidana will be the harder fight because of his unorthodox style with throwing…as Broner found out.

It also may have been what Floyd saw with Pac except with Pac, it’s just not his ability to throw unorthodox punches, but he has the speed, agility, and combination attack to throw Floyd off his game. Sure, we saw JMM battle it out with Pac, at times out boxing him, but JMM also took big risks in his fights to land those punches while Floyd since tends to be cautious and also throws less (unlike his earlier years).

Where with Khan, he is a technical boxer who Danny Garcia even figured out after round 1. All the speed, movement, agility, can be countered from another smart boxer.

Posted February 24, 2014 4:46 am 


Auzbox

Just as an 8 division champ will ever be matched. EVER

Posted February 24, 2014 4:08 am 


Adrian

Isn’t Maidana one dimension fighter like rios ??? Lol … Is he ” tailor made ” like rios for mayweather?? Remember your barking about rios???

Now I know you will say rios wasn’t a champ when he fought paqiao but would he have been any different if he had fought paqiao before loss to Alvarado??? No of course the title dosent make you a different fighter especially these day when we have countless version of boxing organization ….

Posted February 24, 2014 3:43 am 


Adrian

Hahahahahahahahaha …. Here we go with ” version” excuse .. Ha ha ha ha … Huuhhhhh

Posted February 24, 2014 3:37 am 


Boxtradamus

Khan beat the NON Championship version of Maidana. Floyd is facing the Championship version. BIG difference.

Posted February 24, 2014 3:27 am 


Adrian

Lmao!!! Glass jaw sissy who beat mayweathers cherry pick !!!!!

Posted February 24, 2014 3:20 am 


Boxtradamus

Nope. It means that Floyd would rather face a CHAMP than a glass jawed SISSY.

Posted February 24, 2014 3:01 am 


Adrian

Lol this is incredible , floyidiots attack khan and call him a ” sissy” or ” he is a garbage with a glass chin” yet they forget and are not embarrassed that khan was Mayweathers pick ?? Lol
Does this mean the. mayweather picks only ” garbage with glass jaw” ?? Lmao!!!!

Posted February 24, 2014 2:47 am 


Adrian

Te tumbo – you were ways consistent with your post about khan or Maidana vs mayweather ,
And you are correct as most true boxing fans are that even though Maidana deserves the fight more then khan , khan vs mayweather is much more intriguing and tougher fight for mayweather ….. In the end of the day it was mayweather himself who mentioned khan as a possible opponent and “asked ” fans to vote who the like to see Maidana or khan no one else ,so why these die hard floyed fans are so angry on khan for asking to fight mayweather when mayweather himself put khan at the top of his pick ???

Posted February 24, 2014 2:36 am 


Boxtradamus

The poll on Mayweather’s site was rigged and Floyd is TOO smart for that. Every other poll had Maidana WINNING. Also no poll is needed to see that Maidana is a CHAMP and Khan is NOT. Khan had a title shot set UP against Alexander but he ran like a SISSY. Maidana didn’t run from Broner though. He took his belt and earned a shot at BIG brother. Floyd is going to SPANK Maidana for his 11th CHAMP in his last 13 Fights WOW!!! What an accomplishment!!! It won’t be matched in THIS LIFETIME.

Posted February 24, 2014 2:30 am 


te tumbo

correction: nobody can argue that Maidana hasn’t earned his moment under the harsh spotlight v. Mayweather. the conclusion is foregone. Mayweather remains Undefeated.

Posted February 24, 2014 1:47 am 


te tumbo

i don’t expect any better from the shills but it’s alternately amusing and revolting to read posters gleefully resign themselves to the business of boxing. true fight-fans know that the best and worthiest competition trumps pure “entertainment” value(?) every time.

Posted February 24, 2014 1:46 am 


HHLondon

I’m going to bed, I got lives to save tomorrow ;-)

Posted February 24, 2014 12:59 am 


HHHLondon

Joseph,

I respect you!

But don’t turn into Jeff Powell or Colin Hart!

Turn this game upside down with conviction and words and challenge these thieves.

Te Tumbo,

Khan will look fancy for two rounds straight and that’s the rub.

Maidana will walk forward all night long and may just surprise the sport of boxing by sticking Floyd on his butt for his first count.

Posted February 24, 2014 12:57 am 


HHHLondon

I’ve watched Khan since he turned pro.

Maidana chased the clown for 18 months and instigated legal action to get his shot after being robbed by Kotelnik in Germany?

Took his loss like a man, moved on, fought his way to 147lb title by beating another clown ….

All I we ever hear is Khan bleating and clowns like you enabling it …

Tonights Puglist Corner was a paid PR job for Khan to get a fight with Mayweather ..

How about Khan wins a fight or two at 147lbs?

Posted February 24, 2014 12:53 am 


te tumbo

Solid post HHLONDON, and I prefer to watch Mayweather v. Khan. even though Maidana is worthiest for the same reasons Victor Ortiz, Carlos Baldomir, Robert Guerrero, and even Mitchell were worthy of title-shots. the problem is when a welter title-shot involves Mayweather. at which point, there is no welter truly up to that challenge, Period. Floyd v. Khan is most intriguing to me in terms of competing styles and strengths. otherwise, nobody can argue that Maidana has earned his moment under the harsh spotlight v. Mayweather. the conclusion is foregone. Mayweather remains Undefeated.

Posted February 24, 2014 12:51 am 


Joseph Herron

HHHLondon,

My goodness, brother. All I can say is…thanks for listening…You have really made this episode of The Pugilist KOrner’s: Weekend Wrap an interesting one!!

Posted February 24, 2014 12:45 am 


Hidalg0

Your “original question” has been answered over and over and over tonight.

Posted February 24, 2014 12:40 am 


Hidalg0

Why are you so angry HHHLondon? You ask for answers but you don’t want to hear or see them. So you don’t like Khan and you think he’s not worthy. Fine. We get it.

But tell me something–and be honest–how many of Khan’s fights, have you watched on the night they occurred? Not replays, but the actual day of the fight, and what fights were those?

Posted February 24, 2014 12:39 am 


Hidalg0

“It seemed to take on a different character from other shows because of all of the great interaction with the extended family here on ESB!!

I like the way you did that–taking questions from ESB and presenting them on air to your guests.

Posted February 24, 2014 12:31 am 


Joseph Herron

Thanks, Hidalgo!!

It seemed to take on a different character from other shows because of all of the great interaction with the extended family here on ESB!!

Great job, guys!!

Posted February 24, 2014 12:27 am 


Adrian

One post from typical floidiot”
HHHLondon

Peterson, Garcia and the two career lightweights Molina and Diaz?

If amongst those four you can come up with a retort and a reason for Khan fighting Floyd …. then do … let us all know.”

Hahahaha … He mentioned Prescott fight wich was years ago but he dosent mention khan vs

Maidana because I am sure they say ” that was a different version of Maidana ” hahahahahahahahaha

Posted February 24, 2014 12:19 am 


Hidalg0

BTW, Helluva show Joseph! Helluva show.

Posted February 24, 2014 12:15 am 


Joseph Herron

HHHLondon,

Ronnie, Gogue, and I have answered your question time and time again

You can listen to the replay as soon as the embedded player is uploaded onto Eastsideboxing.com in case you want to hear it again.

Money trumps all other factors in boxing…resume, accomplishments, and belts…they don’t mean very much when you reach the level of Floyd Mayweather Jr…only his retirement pension.

If Floyd were going by the factor of who truly deserved the fight based on accomplishment alone, he would have fought Manny four years ago!!

Thanks for contributing to the show, Triple H London!!

Posted February 24, 2014 12:15 am 


Hidalg0

BTW HHHLondon, to be more correct, I should have said “publicly” announced instead of “formally” announced. But the two words are somewhat synonymous.

Posted February 24, 2014 12:14 am 


Hidalg0

I maintain that Mayweather is not delaying his choice of opponent because he can’t make up his mind as Ronnnie Shields said, but because he wants to give his next opponent as little time as possible to prepare to fight him.

If nothing else, Floyd Mayweather Jr. is an expert at getting the edge over his opponents long before they ever step into the squared circle. I think he’s playing mind games right now.

And you got to give the man credit, he’s effective!

Posted February 24, 2014 12:13 am 


Adrian

And after Maidana win over broner floidiots like sredmond were mocking the idea of Maidana fighting mayweather , so now they probably will say mayweather is facing the best in ww.. Hahahahaha and they have a nerve to say ” mayweather can’t find a challenge in ww” lol

Posted February 24, 2014 12:12 am 


Adrian

Hahahahahaha ….I told you mayweather will never fight khan even though he was the one to name khan as a possible opponent …and the poll was an excuse for floyed not to fight khan he knew the fans would be against it but khan won his poll anyway and got exposed anyway hahahahahahahahaha …. What a fakiiing joke and fake faaaaak mayweather is god!!!!!!

Posted February 24, 2014 12:08 am 


HHHLondon

You can dress them up in a pink, plaid skirt if you wish.

He got found out in all three and in between they fed him blown up lightweights with feathers in their mits who also had him wide eyed and wishing he still had Ariza waking him up every morning with a smoothie.

Again … the original question?

Posted February 24, 2014 12:04 am 


Luke

How bouta lil DrAW-Breaker overtime???!

Posted February 24, 2014 12:02 am 


Hidalg0

“Peterson, Garcia and the two career lightweights Molina and Diaz?”

Khan has lost one fight by KO (Prescott) and one fight by TKO (Garcia). He also lost to Peterson by SD.

Posted February 24, 2014 12:01 am 


HHHLondon

Peterson, Garcia and the two career lightweights Molina and Diaz?

If amongst those four you can come up with a retort and a reason for Khan fighting Floyd …. then do … let us all know.

Posted February 23, 2014 11:53 pm 


Hidalg0

Joseph, I think mine and Gogue’s and yourbrains are connected. LOL! Petrov and Carcamo!

Posted February 23, 2014 11:52 pm 


Hidalg0

“Mayweather gets accused of Cherrypicking whilst Amir Khan gets KTFO in his last four fights but these “journalists” are calling Mayweather out over the Shamba Mitchell fight EIGHT YEARS AGO!!!!?????????”

Which four fights would those be?

Posted February 23, 2014 11:48 pm 


HHHLondon

Busta,

We don’t get the right choices and the right fights because these guys won’t ask the big questions.

Here is my original question to Joesph:

“How about those in a position to make change within this sport use the platform, not to discuss whether or not the boxing community cares about Floyd V’s whoever but how clowns like Amir Khan think they’re entitled to fight the Mayweathers of this game?”

Joseph’s response:

“You mean like Victor Ortiz, Carlos Baldomir, Robert Guerrero, Sharmba Mitchell, and so on? Those guys had better resumes than Amir Khan when they fought Floyd?”

Mayweather gets accused of Cherrypicking whilst Amir Khan gets KTFO in his last four fights but these “journalists” are calling Mayweather out over the Shamba Mitchell fight EIGHT YEARS AGO!!!!?????????

Are they for real??????????????????

Posted February 23, 2014 11:46 pm 


Joseph Herron

well said, Bustajay!!

Posted February 23, 2014 11:37 pm 


BUSTAJAY

HHHLondon
Without money the whole boxing game would implode. Ronnie said it was all about cash in the end. What can we do bro?

If it makes money then in the end it will make sense….we don’t always get the right choice or pick but money talks in this sport….

Posted February 23, 2014 11:35 pm 


HHHLondon

Busta,

Don’t be a clown

When you have mouthpieces selling warriors down the river in favor of money then they and you can go bang themselves and I don’t care who they are.

“Khan deserves the shot”? “because it’s more lucrative”?

Danny Garcia and Marcos Maidana smashing the granny out of those two overrated overhyped and overpromoted poster boys was the best thing that happened to boxing in the last TEN YEARS …

but to listen to these GBP sycophant shills playing the violin for Amir Khan makes me laugh my nuts off.

They’re more concerned with their comps.

Posted February 23, 2014 11:24 pm 


Luke

Molina looked his worst against Smith!! looked far better than everyone else!! Could Molina be losin a little tread on the tire??

Posted February 23, 2014 11:12 pm 


BUSTAJAY

I just want to tell Ronnie great job with the brothers
678

Posted February 23, 2014 11:11 pm 


Joseph Herron

Thanks to all for contributing to tonight’s show!!!

Posted February 23, 2014 11:11 pm 


Hidalg0

I am hard of hearing, you know. :)

Posted February 23, 2014 11:10 pm 


Hidalg0

“joel will be on this Tuesday…not tonight”

Well darn! LOL!

Posted February 23, 2014 11:09 pm 


HHLondon

Joe, I’ll hold my tongue when the facilitators are smart enough, transparent and can hide their agendas.

Amir Khan, Richard Shaefer, GBP and the subject matter is Mayweather getting too big for his boots?

All I hear about is Mayweather cherry picking and we just hear Ronnie saying he was forced to fight Canelo by the network?

You lot are selling Khan who has nothing for any of us but blaming Floyd because he chooses a champ with a belt and substance?

Posted February 23, 2014 11:08 pm 


BUSTAJAY

Was holding my self back….but some people just push my buttons…..
Charlo is the man….well both brothers are great

Posted February 23, 2014 11:06 pm 


Dimelo73

Thank for the answer. I think you guys are hitting the nail on the head regarding this issue of revenue, Mayweather and opponents. Tough spot to be in: puting yourself out of the job becuse you are very competent.

Mr. Herron:

I think that when enough money is lost and wasted by HBO and Showtime , they will put their differences aside and force a Mayweather Vs Pacquiao fight. There is too much money involved for petty differences. Mayweather has a contract with Showtime and once they realize they are loosing money with Mayweather, they will push the issue as you mentioned in the case with Canelo Alvarez.

Good show. You are touching some very sensitive issues that needed to be on the public light and the other media outlets are neglecting to cover.

Thank you again

Dimelo73

Posted February 23, 2014 11:05 pm 


Luke

I totally agree with JK and Ronnie about Lomenchenko, but it still makes for an interesting fight!

Posted February 23, 2014 11:04 pm 


Joseph Herron

great to see you there, bustajay!!!

Posted February 23, 2014 11:04 pm 


HHLondon

Floyd knows Khan is a non-entity unlike you paid shills.

Amir Khan : “If I was white, I’d be a superstar in the UK”.

That’s why Khan has no British fans.

Khan brings nothing to the table and you lot know it!

Mayweather is a five-weight world champ, 36 and challenges and wins belts from younguns and all you can do is drain Amir Khan’s balls?

Posted February 23, 2014 11:03 pm 


BUSTAJAY

HHLondon

Ronnie, you should be ashamed of yourself.

Posted February 23, 2014 10:57 pm

Enough already….please go cry on another site bro

Posted February 23, 2014 11:02 pm 


BUSTAJAY

Right on Ronnie
The money been paid to somebody

Posted February 23, 2014 11:01 pm 


Joseph Herron

okay…HHLondon…please listen to the show without bias, my friend!!!

Posted February 23, 2014 11:00 pm 


HHLondon

Ronnie, you should be ashamed of yourself.

Posted February 23, 2014 10:57 pm 


HHLondon

Yes you are!

You’re GBP’s mouthpiece

Posted February 23, 2014 10:55 pm 


HHLondon

*What did Mayweather do to Canelo Ronnie?

Posted February 23, 2014 10:54 pm 


HHLondon

What did Alverez do to Canelo Ronnie?

We thought Floyd cherry picked opponents?

Posted February 23, 2014 10:54 pm 


Joseph Herron

Thanks for the great questions once again, Luke!!

Posted February 23, 2014 10:54 pm 


Joseph Herron

thanks for your input, xellos!!!

Posted February 23, 2014 10:51 pm 


Xelloss

Oh, and for Ronnie: I hope Vera starches Jr in their match and is the one to land fight versus GGG this summer instead of Chavez. If Vera could KO Chavez, a title fight with GGG becomes very interesting. At least for me.

Posted February 23, 2014 10:49 pm 


HHLondon

Joseph,

Can you discuss Mayweathers decision to fight those names you called out?

Baldomir, Ortiz, Guerero and Mitchell and in comparison to Amir Khan and his current boxing record and entitlement?

Posted February 23, 2014 10:46 pm 


Luke

Good answer Ronnie….that’s one helluva 54/60 pound stable!!!! Thank you!!

Posted February 23, 2014 10:43 pm 


Joseph Herron

joel will be on this Tuesday…not tonight

Posted February 23, 2014 10:40 pm 


Hidalg0

HI JOSEPH! IF YOU HAVE TIME THIS EVENING, I’D LIKE TO HAVE A WORD WITH JOEL DIAZ. I’LL GET IN THE CALLER CUE AFTER HE’S ON AIR.

928 AREA CODE.

THANKS. (CAPS: JUST MAKING SURE YOU SEE MY REQUEST LOL!)

Posted February 23, 2014 10:39 pm 


Luke

Ronnie….during the last Vera Chavez fight, we loved Brian’s increased commitment to the jab and increased ducking and weaving!! Will we see more of it in act two??

Posted February 23, 2014 10:38 pm 


Luke

Q…for Mr. Shields!!

If those intense sparring sessions between Vera and Charlo brother #1 were allowed to evolve into an actual fight, who wins??? As always Ronnie, give it to us straight!! Don’t worry, you won’t hurt their feelings:))

Posted February 23, 2014 10:35 pm 


Xelloss

Hi Joe. I understand your thoughts on Khan’s marketability, and you have a point to a degree. However, I wonder if you have considered the aspect of pre-fight marketing?

Do you think that with the millions spent on marketing a Mayweather fight, that the promoters cant make lesser known names more marketable? I honestly do have to wonder how they could market a guy like Khan who has looked poor in his recent outings.

He might have a million “likes” on Facebook, but how many of those people who at one point liked or followed his Facebook still cared enough to vote?

Maidana on the other hand, at least has a recent highlight reel… plus the humping and counter humping in the Broner fight is the type of thing that makes the rounds amongst casual fans.

Btw I love your show, I just respectfully disagree on the marketability of Khan versus Mayweather. Had he fought Alexander and looked good, it would be a different story. But even casual fans use Google, and I think a Khan fight would be a difficult turd to polish even for the marketing mavens at SHO and GBP.

Posted February 23, 2014 10:35 pm 


HHLondon

“fight fans don’t wanna be told who the next big star of boxing is”.

LMAO!

We just got told Khan was exactly that for the last two years and STILL you clowns keep pretending you’re journalists and it’s Khan’s right to fight Floyd?

You just devoted how long to slating Mayweather and selling Khan as some sort of competition?

Posted February 23, 2014 10:32 pm 


Hidalg0

Hi Joseph! If you have time this evening I’d like to have a word with Joel Diaz. I’ll get in the caller cue after he’s on air.

928 area code.

thanks.

Posted February 23, 2014 10:29 pm 


HHLondon

Amir Khan “is the only name”?

Discuss Khan’s last four, not his PR

Posted February 23, 2014 10:27 pm 


Luke

I’ll take Ron Scott Stevens over Melvena Latham any day. Heck, I’ll even take Floyd Patterson during the months he didn’t remember being the commissioner, over Melvena!!

Posted February 23, 2014 10:24 pm 


Luke

Corner is to blame 1st and foremost!! Ref Benji Estevez is not to blame, since you can’t stop a competitive fight in most circumstances.

Posted February 23, 2014 10:17 pm 


Luke

Hauser compared Magmood and boxing to Mello and hoop…I think all that came outta Hauser’s mouth is gospel, however that’s an invalid analogy, since boxing is not a major league sport…point stands, though, GET HIM AN AMBULANCE!!

Posted February 23, 2014 10:15 pm 


Luke

Could swear I just heard MONEY MAY…Joseph, MONEY on your show?!!!

Posted February 23, 2014 10:12 pm 


Dimelo73

Mr. Herron:

I am not sure if you will cover this question on your show but I wanted to ask you:
Do you think Mayweather will achieve competent PPV numbers this time around considering his level of opposition at the moment? We know that Bradley and Pacquiao are out of the list of contenders; however, can you name someone out on in the Golden Boy stable (140-154LBS) that can help generate record breaking capital for Floyd and Showtime? As a fan, it is hard to find an excuse to shell 50-100 dollars for PPV when I can guess the outcome of the fight with a high degree of certainty.

Thank you,

By the way, I think Angulo will take Alvarez out!

Posted February 23, 2014 10:10 pm 


HHLondon

Joseph,

Am I missing something here?

Ortiz had just smashed the living daylights out of Berto and had a world title?

Baldomir hadn’t lost in 20 odd fights, stopped Gatti and again had a world title?

Guerrero was unbeaten in how many fights and was interim champ for the WBC belt?

Mitchell was no slouch and had fought and lost to the best and only one loss in nearly four years?

Joseph,

If you really want to go there perhaps you may like to discuss the original question?

How on earth does Khan think he is entitled to a Mayweather fight?

He just went life and death with two lightweights in Diaz and Molina, has lost two from his last four and been stuck in his backside as many times as all of the above?

You asked the readers to think about a discussion on the points you set out, I suggested a topic based upon that and you decided to ignore the suggestion?

Posted February 23, 2014 9:57 pm 


MJames

Khan has nowhere to go. He’s a crybaby. I just want to see Floyd fisting Maidana. Pakistanis just don’t do it for me. Maidana please champ.

Posted February 23, 2014 9:31 pm 


MJames

I wish Floyd would fist me in my ring.

Posted February 23, 2014 9:29 pm 


MJames

Maidana please champ.

I love you Floyd.

Posted February 23, 2014 9:28 pm 


MJames

Guys seriously, Khan looks like he is having a nervous breakdown, no joke. His people need to get him to a psychiatrist quickly, he is having a meltdown, a really bad freaking meltdown. Maidana earned the fight with Floyd, well done Marcos. Somebody please get Khan to a psychiatrist though, he’s totally crumbled.

Posted February 23, 2014 9:27 pm 


Joseph Herron

You mean like Victor Ortiz, Carlos Baldomir, Robert Guerrero, Sharmba Mitchell, and so on? Those guys had better resumes than Amir Khan when they fought Floyd?

Look…Amir Khan wasn’t the person who started beating the drum for a fight with Floyd back in November anyway…it was Richard Schaefer and Floyd Mayweather, as well as the boxing media.

But good for the fight fans in voicing their opinions…good for all of you. But honestly, this has become a ridiculous issue and topic. I for one am glad to see someone finally get chosen.

On with the fights!!

Posted February 23, 2014 8:55 pm 


HHLondon

Joseph,

How about those in a position to make change within this sport use the platform, not to discuss whether or not the boxing community cares about Floyd V’s whoever but how clowns like Amir Khan think they’re entitled to fight the Mayweathers of this game?

Posted February 23, 2014 8:45 pm 



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