The right choice to make Floyd look good against bum opposition. Maidana is a dumbed down version of Canelo. Three notches below Canelo on defense, offense, and overall boxing skill. So this is a dumb fight not worth a penny. Totally worthless!Posted March 1, 2014 12:07 pm
Floyd:Hey Ma”..whats your prediction for the fight?
Goat is ali so I’m not sure why you keep referring to him. It’s simple broner won his before floyd. And as for fights vasyl will beat floyd to. As for compubox floyd only is the best defense he is not the best offencePosted February 28, 2014 10:26 pm
And Boxing can’t be compared to baseball. Runs scored are FACT. Rounds WON are OPINION. SO all of those close WINS by Pacquiao may be a matter of POOR OPINIONS. Knockouts are not an OPINION. Knockouts are a FACT. SO the FACT is the Marquez owns the only UNMISTAKABLE WIN in the series.Posted February 28, 2014 5:30 pm
Floyd became a CHAMP as after 24 yrs out the WOUND and Lomachenko needs 26 which is GREAT but still LESSER than the GOAT.Posted February 28, 2014 5:25 pm
Age means ALOT when it comes to being a PRODIGY or not. Especially when you remain on Top for 13 years after your ANNOINTMENT. What happened to Broner is no factor in what Floyd IS. Maidana is about to agree with ME on that. Due to Lomachenko starting SLOW he now has to stay on Top until he’s 39 to match Floyd. I DOUBT if he can DO that. Floyd makes it LOOK easier than it IS….Manny Pacquiao immediately agreed with ME on that after Pacquiao-Marquez IV…..after he woke UP.Posted February 28, 2014 5:23 pm
Peej, Anonymous, Marquez 4, Boxtradamus are sexual worshipers of Floyd. They see Floyd’s ass as sexual pleasure point. So it’s natural for them to say all praises for their object of lust. DisgustingPosted February 28, 2014 8:32 am
MANNY KNOWS PEDS
Maidans on peds watch end of rd 11 Maidana vs Broner and watch Maidans corner and look closely at Alex ArizaPosted February 28, 2014 4:10 am
I hoping everyone gets to see the trailer for the epic documentary called “MANNY.” I watched earlier it today. This transcends all sports. Go to the Manny Pacquiao web sit and you can see for yourselves the excitement this movie is spreading throughout the world. This documentary is a must see for all boxing/sports fans in general. There is no other current or past fighter that can compare to this living legend’s life story. Some of the footage is unbelievable. You’ll see a young kid fighting grown men with much more experience, and stopping them with the power of thunder. You will clearly see that Manny was a born puncher with power. This will put to rest all of these desperate accusations of Manny using any type of Peds. The man has always been blessed with incredible power even as a young 15 year old. This is a powerful story of a blessed man that was chosen to do something special in life. A natural born fighter that crawled out of the gutter to become the greatest pure fighter of all time. The only 8 time division boxing champion in the history of boxing. There is no reason to dislike this man. No reason to accuse or insult this incredible human being. This documentary will simply make you appreciate your own life, and marvel at the obstacles and challenges Manny Pacquiao miraculously overcame. This is a triumphant story of a man that beat bigger odds than winning lottery. An incredible and unbelievable life of man that today is one of the world’s most influential people. A man that makes changes to help those that have no voices to be heard. A man chosen by God to make a change in this world. Manny is the best!Posted February 28, 2014 3:59 am
Can you count boxtra, if your American. In the World Series if one team wins three games 20 nil but loose four games 1 nil, the winner is still the team that scored 4 runs to 60. So don’t go on with your crap. If you can count the score reads 2-1-1 and Marquez will get a chance to even the score hopefully in November.Posted February 28, 2014 12:55 am
And happy yeh I think Warner is just a hot head and none of the other guys thought anything of it. Yeh real pity it’s only 3 tests wish we were having a 5 seriesPosted February 28, 2014 12:53 am
Boxtra how many pro fights did floyd have before he won his first world title? Don’t spin your crap, floyd would t of even gone close in his second pro fight. Age doesn’t mean a thing broner won one and was younger than floyd so your theory is rubbish….Posted February 28, 2014 12:52 am
Don’t loose ur word value by posting dumb things.Posted February 28, 2014 12:03 am
Auzzie – can’t wait, mate.Pity that tis only 3 tests, pity bout the reverse swing saga too.the deck/pitch will be the decider.Posted February 27, 2014 9:46 pm
In the Marquez-Pacquiao series only ONE man scored a definitive WIN and that was Marquez.Posted February 27, 2014 9:11 pm
Lomachenko is about to try to catch UP to what Floyd DID at 24 yrs old by WINNING his First World title at 26.Posted February 27, 2014 9:09 pm
Hatton wasn’t moving when PAC hit him, nor was Williams when Sergio hit him. These dumb a ss s act like there has only been one KO in boxing, need to move on it was over a year ago. PAC leads Marquez 2-1-1 no matter how you cut it. And it will likely be 3-1-1 by the end of the yearPosted February 27, 2014 8:32 pm
Lomenchenko is about to break records floyd and manny would never have dreamed ofPosted February 27, 2014 8:23 pm
You do realize even the NABO title says champion on it. Even the interim belts say champion on it. That don’t make you a champPosted February 27, 2014 7:46 pm
There is no 8 division champ, Pac has won 8 titles and I believe he is a 4 division champ.Posted February 27, 2014 7:45 pm
Marquez 4 – PEDquiao 0.
Afraid of needles? Superstitious? Blood loss makes me weak?
LMAO…what a friggin joke.Posted February 27, 2014 7:30 pm
Marquez 4 – PEDquiao 0.
I got a question for you now.
Who is the only boxer in the history of the sport to be associated with PED expert S&C coaches for 14 years straight?Posted February 27, 2014 7:29 pm
Big news today: Nevada State Athletic Commission banned testosterone-replacement therapy (TRT) from combat sports on Thursday. The ruling, which passed by a unanimous vote, eliminates future applications for a therapeutic use exemption for TRT. — This means roids ragers like Lamont PEDerson can no longer use that BS excuse for juicing up.Posted February 27, 2014 7:12 pm
Who is the only 8 Division Champion in the world of all time?Posted February 27, 2014 7:10 pm
Marquez 4 – PEDquiao 0.
Funny how PEDquiao was afraid of needles against Mayweather, Marquez and now Bradley.
But he wasn’t afraid of needles against lightweight bum Brandon Rios, who was coming off a loss, whose style was perfectly suited for PEDquiao and after taking a whole year off.
PEDquiaos’ name will always be associated with PEDs.Posted February 27, 2014 7:00 pm
Your killing them anonymous. Lol!Posted February 27, 2014 6:59 pm
Peej- u can add Tarver hook that sent Jones jr out of the ring? The real Roy jones not the old guy who’s been belted by every1.Posted February 27, 2014 6:59 pm
The KO of Lewis and the KO of Pac were 2 totally different KOs. Lewis was still moving, Pac was notPosted February 27, 2014 6:36 pm
Happy so did Lennox Lewis but he bounced back. 1-1 in the cricket. Should be a cracker in the thirdPosted February 27, 2014 6:04 pm
Maidana 100%Posted February 27, 2014 5:55 pm
If Floyd honor his voting poll Khan is the winner but he ducked Khan because he want his zero to be safe and easy fight for him. Floyd already the winner in my eye by UD.Posted February 27, 2014 5:45 pm
Chino will bum rush PBF and will tired after round two!Posted February 27, 2014 4:57 pm
Auzbox – Manny took a nap for a year and cameback to fight a blownup lightweight punchingbagPosted February 27, 2014 4:25 pm
Floyd’s getting richer and richer for an easy fight!!!!! It was so easy, hardest part is the training. Go superstar!!!!!making tons if money…superstar!Posted February 27, 2014 3:42 pm
pac is a loser pac is a loser pac is a loserPosted February 27, 2014 3:36 pm
It’s time again for people who work hard to pay The P4P king in action. Everybody pay up! The Mayweather show is coming to town! Money money money!!!!!!!!!!! Guaranteed more money for Floyd!!!!!!Posted February 27, 2014 3:31 pm
i was watching marquez and pac and all of a sudden pac went to the sleep on the job hahahahahahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhPosted February 27, 2014 2:48 pm
Maidana-Mayweather is another way for Floyd to showcase his dancing skills for 12 rounds. The outcome is so predictable it is even boring to think about it. Why should we pay to watch him hit the bag?Posted February 27, 2014 2:47 pm
never been beat never never put to sleep a black manPosted February 27, 2014 2:43 pm
pound for pound a black manPosted February 27, 2014 2:42 pm
anonymous – pound4pound imbecilePosted February 27, 2014 2:41 pm
I agree with @The Rivers that Floyd is too afraid to fight PAC because PAC will ERASE Floyd’s picking records from 44-0 to 0-44 by knocking him out making the fight look like NO competition at all.Posted February 27, 2014 2:39 pm
the pound for pound king pretty boy floyd . a black manPosted February 27, 2014 2:39 pm
thats also the big difference between those guys and floyd….he wants to CREATE an aura of invicibility by taking safe fights and whatnot….when you fight everybody, you run the risk of losing (which isnt something floyd wants to do)Posted February 27, 2014 2:38 pm
floyd a black man the best everPosted February 27, 2014 2:37 pm
Manny is willing to fight Floyd for FREE and WITH ONE HAND. Will Floyd grow any confidence? OR he is still too scared?Posted February 27, 2014 2:37 pm
great fighters lose, you moron…the generally accepted greatest fighter of all-time “sugar ray robinson” had 19 losses……Ali had 5 losses…..Posted February 27, 2014 2:36 pm
Floyd knows he will get KNOCKED OUT by PAC, so the best strategy is to keep DUCKING…..Floyd has been ducking for over 5 years and it seems to work for him. Flyod doesn’t care how many fingers are pointing at him as long as he doesn’t fight PAC, he is happy to collect his money from his dumb Floydiots.Posted February 27, 2014 2:34 pm
i especially love the as long as pac is with top rank the fight will never happen….funny how that was never an issue the first 2-3 three times they negotiated?….but now since floyds run out of excuses, hes come up with one that will finally keep the fight from from happening…well done, all-time great!Posted February 27, 2014 2:34 pm
floyd a black man is the best fighter ever pac is a loser he got knocked out he’s got4 losses on his record he is a loserrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrPosted February 27, 2014 2:33 pm
an anonymous racist post….you’re coming across really intelligently anonymous.Posted February 27, 2014 2:31 pm
When it comes to fighting the PACMAN, Floyd is a woman. I was a fan of Floyd and I was/am so disappointed of his fear of Manny. Everytime it comes to fighting Manny, Floyd comes up with NEW EXCUSES, instead of engaging a positive negotiation.
Floyd lets all “The Hood” and Floydiots DOWN, but he doesn’t care.Posted February 27, 2014 2:31 pm
floyd a black man is the best fighter in the world pac got knocked out floyd don’t fight losers pac is a loseerPosted February 27, 2014 2:30 pm
Floyd is afraid to fight Manny because he knows he will get knocked out or beaten up so bad that his boxing records would be erased from 44-0 to 0-44, and will be talked for many generations to come.Posted February 27, 2014 2:27 pm
oh no?….didnt he fight judah immediatly AFTER he got crushed by baldomir? didnt he fight Cotto after getting crushed by pacquiao?Posted February 27, 2014 2:26 pm
floyd don’t fight people who just got knocked out that would cherry pickin right dum white boysPosted February 27, 2014 2:24 pm
I feel so sorry for Floydiots because their coward idol Floyd asked them to pick his next opponent and they picked Amir Khan (76%), but Floyd rejected his followers’ wishes by declining the fight with Khan because Khan is too fast. Floyd then, without notice to Floydiots, picked another slow, flat-footed boxer, Maidana.
If Pacquiao fights Maidana, Maidana won’t last 6 rounds. As slow as Maidana with a coming-forward style like Maidana, Pacquiao would kill him like Pacquiao did to Ricky Hatton.Posted February 27, 2014 2:24 pm
pac got knocke dout knocked out knocked out ahahahahahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhPosted February 27, 2014 2:23 pm
The Right Choice should be the MAN, THE PACMAN, but Mayweather rather chooses another flat-footed, slow, Hispanic heritage again.
Mayweather’s blueprint is to carefully pick the right turtles, NOT Leopards(Manny Pacquiao).Posted February 27, 2014 2:19 pm
All Roads lead to Manny Pacquiao, but Mayweather is too SCARED to go “THERE.”Posted February 27, 2014 2:15 pm
And if he had chosen Khan over Maidana people would have said that he chose the easier opponent.
Most overall I would say would have preferred him to face someone else.
Khan is fast and agile, can box a bit, but he is conventional in his style and attack, lacks the ability of patience, tends to get sloppy, doesn’t have the best chin, and doesn’t have a high I.Q. as far as adapting to his opponents strengths and weakness. He is still good but he doesn’t have the ability to beat Floyd at this point. Actually, if Khan can avoid being taken down again, with time, Floyd will be prone to losing since time is not on his side.Posted February 27, 2014 2:10 pm
floyd is the unbeaten undefeated universal for god ‘s world
Maidana will ko Khan.Posted February 27, 2014 1:30 pm
Maidana is the right easier choice for fraudfloyd. Khan is harder fight so he pic ked the easier onePosted February 27, 2014 1:25 pm
What do we think about Khan being fed the feather fisted celebrity journeyman Paulie Malignaggi? Khan will look for the softest option out there, but I don’t think that’s a high enough standard. Paulie has no belt and was already beaten by Khan in 2011. What do you guys think?Posted February 27, 2014 1:02 pm
Correction – Khan has been TALKING for the last 2 years without SHOWING why he deserves a shot.Posted February 27, 2014 12:00 pm
Mayweather fighting the Pacman/Bradley winner in September…get it out of your head right now. As long as both of them are signed to Top Rank, it will NEVER happen. Mayweather v. DLH—after DLH left Top Rank. Mayweather v. Cotto—after Cotto left Top Rank. Mayweather v. JMM—before JMM signed with Top Rank. Mayweather v. Margarito NOT happening—conditional that Mayweather resign with Top Rank. Mayweather left Arum back 2004 and promised he would never put another dime in Arum’s pockets and he has held true to that…not one Top Rank fighter on his resume in the last 10 years. Look for Mayweather v. Pacman talks to start up next year, given that Pacman wises up and leaves Arum when his contract is up. As for Maidana, regardless of the his chances, he has EARNED this fight unlike Khan who tried to TALK his way into a fight with Mayweather. Khan has been TALKING for the last 2 years with SHOWING why he deserves a shot. Mayweather may make this win look easy, but it would be due to his skill and defense, NOT because Maidana an easy opponent.Posted February 27, 2014 11:59 am
Ted Theodore Logan
Floyd has money but he is still trailer trashPosted February 27, 2014 9:13 am
Maidana is going to be the easiest fight for Floyd. Only Te Tumbo and Vivek think this is a real challenge. These guys are blind worshipers in Floyd’s altar.Posted February 27, 2014 7:41 am
Khan doesn’t want tough fights, he wants an easy ride to Floyd. Khan will never face Brook, Thurman, Porter or any top guys in their prime. Expect Khan to fight Malignaggi next, after which he’ll hang around doing nothing, trying to talk his way into that Floyd retirement pay day.Posted February 27, 2014 7:31 am
MANNY KNOWS PEDS
Watch end of 11th round Maidanas v Broner and at Maidans corner look for Alex Ariza makes out Maidanas blowing his nose but hes inhaling something from Arizas hand looks very strange and suspectPosted February 27, 2014 6:04 am
Yeah Sergio didn’t look that great last up, I thought he was good v Chavez jr apart from getting tagged near the end….I think Sergio is the type that raises his game 4 the bigger names and bigger occasions. The Cotto fight could bring out the best of him? We will c?Posted February 27, 2014 5:31 am
I just think he has looked past it in his last few fights. I don’t think he beats GGG. If floyd fights him it has to be at 160 or he is no better than PAC with catch weights.Posted February 27, 2014 5:19 am
No matter who u think won in the Manny v JJM & manny Bradley fight, both manny & JMM r 2-2 last 4 fights, yet both ranked ahead of Sergio who hasn’t lost and also unified a few fights back….doesn’t make sence 2 me. No wonder guys get a strap and don’t fight the other champs? It obviously means nothing unifying?Posted February 27, 2014 5:12 am
Sergio is still rated the man @ middleweight over the other champs…top 10 top 5 pnd 4 pnd 4 a good while now….4 some reason he keeps getting bumped down the p4p list under guys that have lost when he hasn’t? Floyd Sergio would b massive.Posted February 27, 2014 5:03 am
azzbox…. arf, arf, arf (azzbox barking)…… chirp, chirp, chirp (crickets) nobody cares of what u think and say homie, u cant change facts with ur lame logic, now go to sleep cuz is latePosted February 27, 2014 4:32 am
My prediction Floyd wins, Sergio wins setting up a chance 4 Floyd 2 claim Sergio’s middleweight title….around October….Posted February 27, 2014 4:30 am
Can manny retire for two years get a lightweight to blow up to 144 where you can’t even make weight and school him. Yeh easy as. Your a muppetPosted February 27, 2014 4:11 am
Can Pacman retire for two years and come back and beat Marquez his first fight back. Hell No!!! He caint even win after three straight months of training.
Auzbox– ZZZZZZZZZ Pacman has Pacman recoverer from sleeping like a baby. Mayweather has never never never ever ever being dropped and 0 losses so shut the hell up.Posted February 27, 2014 4:00 am
And he beat margin in 2010. Floyd openly said he didn’t want to fight him, and not because he was a cheat cause he didn’t want to so he retired and let the real boys beat himPosted February 27, 2014 3:57 am
Who has floyd beat worth talking about? Ortiz guerro haha there bums. Canelo haha he is like 16 and never fought anyone good, Judah haha after a loss. Baldomir after he lost 100 times LMAO PAC fought Bradley and Marquez one which will be hall of fame prob twoPosted February 27, 2014 3:52 am
It’s funny that people say weight drained, but he is a natural 135. 140 guy, don’t see floyd going up to middle or super and facing guys cause he ain’t that goodPosted February 27, 2014 3:50 am
Cheers hec dog. Pacturd cotto doesn’t make excuses and canelo was drained, and what your saying, is floyd doesn’t deserve Canelo belt cause it was at catch weight. You can’t have it both ways. It’s in the book 8 division champ first and only ever man to do it. Last undefeated fighter was Bradley who is better than anyone floyd has fought in 5 years. But he got ripped and will take his 0 in April.Posted February 27, 2014 3:49 am
I just want to sleep with Manny and get it over with. I fantasize all night thinking about what he would do to my ass…Posted February 27, 2014 3:47 am
Auzbox, it will view in the philipines and will follow to the United States and the rest of the world soon after.Posted February 27, 2014 3:31 am
Azzbox what was the last undefeated fighter Manny beat> Hell he hasn’t beat no one even worth talking about excel for a weight drained Cotto in 09. Manny hasn’t beat anyone credible if 5 years guy. Poor pacturdsPosted February 27, 2014 3:10 am
8 world clases?? LMAO, fighting guys coming from defeats in catchweights in his favor for vacant titles, I think u and me can be champions too, this is how they made Canelo champion too and travieso arce for his 5 weight title, he fought Mosley when they were absolutely sure he had NOTHING left but ran away scared when he seemed dangerous, now go to google and look for this chapter on pacquiao cowardice, u need to know more history about ur hero, now I ask u, how many world vacant titles has Mayweather won??Posted February 27, 2014 2:19 am
Moseley never took a round off pac but he did Floyd. Manny dropped him to, Floyd didn’t even wake him up. They both fought him years to latePosted February 27, 2014 2:05 am
he has won titles in 8 divisions. he isn’t even a natural welter so why would he go to 154. Floyd wouldn’t go to 160 so why should pac. Floyd is a natural welter and no lessPosted February 27, 2014 2:04 am
I think the most dangerous guy Money fought was Shane Mosley, the same guy from who Phonyao and his s+it talker trainer Cuca-Roach ran away scared after he smashed Cheato and offered to go down in weight to fight Phonyao, they said “Manny isnt ready” LMAO…. Money had to come and give SSM the azz whipping he was begging for. Canelo is nothing but a hypejob but Phonyao would NEVER fight him…. I know reality hurts but is time for u to wake up and accept that ur hero is BSPosted February 27, 2014 1:33 am
And yeh floyd took hattons 0 but then he won twice and then PAC took his life. Floyd couldn’t even hurt him till he was tired. PAC dropped in twice in the first when he was as fresh as he ever wasPosted February 27, 2014 1:27 am
It all means didley squat till they face each other. If they don’t then half the world will argue one way and the other half the other. Stop hating and put some praise for the great fighters that do what you would notPosted February 27, 2014 1:24 am
Manny softened cotto up for may weather. He was never the same. Your arguments are lame. Just because floyd beat Marquez easy and manny hasn’t means nothing. Moseley took rounds off may weather but he didn’t from manny.Posted February 27, 2014 1:22 am
Ghetto name the last dangerous fighter floyd faced? Canelo is a baby so another dangerous fighter?Posted February 27, 2014 1:20 am
Azzbox, you arguments are lame, Money beat Hatton when undefeated, after that he was almost KOd again by Lazcano, Phonyao beat a 3 years older and terrible drained DLH a weight were he hasnt been in almost 10 years, like I said before Phonyao was extremly carefully matched against lame opposition to make him look great, only Pactards dont want to accept BTW if u take a look at puchstat u will realized that Money outpunched DLH so bad 122 to 207, all the punches thrown by DLH were hitting air, gloves and arms, only moron who know nothing about boxing can say it was a close fight….. the only way to beat Mayweather is having CJ Ross and Tom Kaczmareck scoring his fightPosted February 27, 2014 1:19 am
@hecdog is that only in the Philippines or is it going to other countries as well? Or will we have to wait?Posted February 27, 2014 1:16 am
Your a hater and just on the floyd wagon cause the best fighter in the mex stable couldn’t hack it at the top. Difference is ghetto thug aka ill put a cap in your a ss ha ha. Manny destroys people floyd hits them with pillows for 36 minutes. Can’t even throw a left right hook haha. You go on all day about PPV. Manny had 1 bad PPV. Lets see how this new fight goes in the US when he is fighting the #1 ranked welter in the world hey. Can’t wait to get on here and stick it to you. You will have to change your name to ghetto ho arPosted February 27, 2014 1:15 am
I hoping everyone gets to see the trailer for the epic documentary called “MANNY.” I watched earlier it today. This transcends all sports. Go to the Manny Pacquiao web sit and you can see for yourselves the excitement this movie is spreading throughout the world. This documentary is a must see for all boxing/sports fans in general. There is no other current or past fighter that can compare to this living legend’s life story. Some of the footage is unbelievable. You’ll see a young kid fighting grown men with much more experience, and stopping them with the power of thunder. You will clearly see that Manny was a born puncher with power. This will put to rest all of these desperate accusations of Manny using any type of Peds. The man has always been blessed with incredible power even as a young 15 year old. This is a powerful story of a blessed man that was chosen to do something special in life. A natural born fighter that crawled out of the gutter to become the greatest pure fighter of all time. The only 8 time division boxing champion in the history of boxing. There is no reason to dislike this man. No reason to accuse or insult this incredible human being. This documentary will simply make you appreciate your own life, and marvel at the obstacles and challenges Manny Pacquiao miraculously overcame. This is a triumphant story of a man that beat bigger odds than winning lottery. An incredible and unbelievable life of man that today is one of the world’s most influential people. A man that makes changes to help those that have no voices to be heard. A man chosen by God to make a change in this world. Manny is the best!Posted February 27, 2014 1:13 am
You make me laugh. Floyd beat him easy but PAC struggled. PAC beat Hatton easy floyd didn’t tool him 9 rounds. How did he go with deal Hoya. Nearly lost PAC ended him. Pacs last 2 fights, 1 was over a mill and the last was under 500, lets see this next fight then talk numbersPosted February 27, 2014 1:08 am
Fact is, if Pacman is so lame, why oh why does the ghetto bum keep ducking him? Thats the bottom line, EVERYBODY KNOWS Mayweather ducked Pacman, repeatedly ducked him! lol..You cant change History or Facts !Posted February 27, 2014 1:06 am
Fraud May/Chicago guy/Auzbox/Hecdog/Xilocaine/ and so many more is the same moron using different names LOL….. You haters and Pactards dont give a FK about his claims but the whole worlds does…. his PPV numbers PROVE it, the same numbers that PROVE that nobody gives a FK about Phonyao after he got exposed as a hypejob carefully matched agains lame opposition LMAOPosted February 27, 2014 1:00 am
Fraudweather is fighting a guy who Khan already beat instead of fighting Khan! Nuff said..cluck cluck! lolPosted February 27, 2014 1:00 am
Mayweather is a yellow bellied, smack talking coward. He ducked Pacman, and now ducked Khan. Anybody with both power AND speed Mayweather doesnt want to know. Fake!Posted February 27, 2014 12:57 am
Fraud May/Chicago guy/Auzbox/Hecdog/Xilocaine/ and so many more: nobody gives a fck what Phonyaohas to say but Pactards, he got KTFO by a grandpa toyed by Mayweather, he is broke as you are and his PPV numbers are lame…. Mayweather is the King and the whole world(you haters included) is waitting to see him fight and winPosted February 27, 2014 12:08 am
Pacquioa said there must be construction on that road or an accident cause he cant seem to be able to get down that road with Mayweather. There are too many roadblocks ahead he says….Posted February 26, 2014 11:56 pm
“All roads lead to Mayweather,” ExactlyPosted February 26, 2014 11:51 pm
Yea Marcos Maidana is a better choice it will make for a better fight but hes still not gonna win. Mayweather by a WIDE UD.Posted February 26, 2014 11:13 pm
Miadana is a much better option than Kahn for sure. Plus Marcos is coming off a huge win to more people would pay to see it…Posted February 26, 2014 10:37 pm
Anonymous- With a comment like that I see why you would want to remain “anonymous”. Look, Maidana YES improved with Robert Garcia but if your implying that it will give Maidana the superpowers to beat Mayweather then Id have to go with “I disagree”. Maidana was about, lets say a 7 when he fought Khan(7) and Alexander(8). Now he is an 8 and Mayweather is more like a 10 so to speak.. So its not that hard to see that Mayweather clearly has all the advantages over any of the 3 (Khan, Maidana and Alexander) that I mentioned previously.Posted February 26, 2014 10:07 pm
Maidana is better now than when he faced Khan and Alexander. Better Trainer, better training camp overall.Posted February 26, 2014 7:45 pm
Gonzo the Dragonborn aka The New Edgar Allen Poe
LOL…I see the self proclaimed “Raven” (Gonzo) is spanking everyone on this site once again…LOL
Posted February 11, 2014 1:28 am
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Posted February 11, 2014 12:55 am
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Posted February 10, 2014 10:21 pm
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Posted February 10, 2014 10:08 pm
Gonzo is by far one if the most entertaining posters on here get a sense of humor and enjoy life a little.
Posted February 1, 2014 9:48 pm
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Posted September 3, 2013 8:30 pm
Vivic’s vernacular, Gonzo’s gags, and old Yank’s yarns are part of what makes ESB the great boxing site going.
Posted August 31, 2013 2:12 pm
It’s Me, Ernie
Another fine example why Brother Gonzo is at Tier One…
Posted September 2, 2013 12:26 pm
Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. The Lion King of Beat Street)
Brother Gonzo. With that uniquely creative imagination and those wordsmithing skills you could write dark, macabre, action-adventure/horror-thrillers for a living. You could be the next Edgar Allen Poe and not even realize it.
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You don`t have to worry about who Gonzo is, you need to worry about what he is. He is a force of n@ture. He has f-c-u-k-d a hurric@ne. When he was born, even his d@ddy called him d@ddy.
Imagine if you will a Tsun@mi, but rather than being made of water, it is comprised of pure Ande@n Cond0r mixed with l@shings of Clint E@stwood circa 1964, Fistful of Doll@rs er@.
Now imagine that Tsun@mi g@thering it`s force up on Tier one, which I can tell you extends upwards of 22,000 feet, and is a place where ordin@ry humans would require Oxygen m@sks, so as I say imagine it g@thering it`s force, growing and growing, lightening flicker!ng, the smell of ozone in the air and word-pairings, and syll@bals clash together.
You have a moments silence where you have the ins@ne hope that nothing will happen.
But then, suddenly there it is.
A million cubic tons of Vulture E@stwood Dragonborn fury pouring from the sky, slicing it`s way towards your very soul.
At the tip of this Tsnum@i you`ll see a sneer!ng pair of lips form, which as they grow closer draw back to reveal a set of kn@shers intent on dam@ge.
Realising your error you back away, head twisting, seek!ng an esc@pe.
You tr!p and fall onto your back and cover your eyes.
But this can do nothing to stop the be@st you have unleashed from settling it`s jaws upon your most pr!zed possess!ons and r!pping them out root and stem with a crunching twist.
That my friend is Gonzo.
If you feel this is an ex@ggeration then b@re this in mind. Do you know Keyzer Soze? Of course you do, everyone has heard of him. What most people do not know however is that Keyzer once borrowed Gonzo’s Ferr@ri 250 GT, and returned it without filling the t@nk.
This is why Gonzo now possesses a mousem@t made from Keyzers scr-0-tum.Posted February 26, 2014 7:41 pm
Peter quillan is a bum. GGG needs to shut him up
He will.Posted February 26, 2014 7:20 pm
Please!!!! The whole Khan or Maidana poll was a FARCE. Maidana won on every other poll except FLoyd’s… go figure… But if they had a 3rd option, Manny Pacquiao, I’m sure Manny would have won.
We all know that Floyd is avoiding this fight. Whatever BOXTRA wants to say…, it’s been years, and it’s still the same Floyd shinannigans.
Heck, even 50 admitted several times, Floyd’s avoiding the fight!!!Posted February 26, 2014 7:05 pm
So, should Floyd be fighting these guys, since they all have belts?Posted February 26, 2014 7:02 pm
Peter quillan is a bum. GGG needs to shut him upPosted February 26, 2014 7:02 pm
So what Floyd faced a CHAMP!!!! They give belts to just about any fool in boxing. Heck, Peter Quillin, Carlos Molina,Demetrius Andrade, Lamont Peterson… hell all of these guys have belts, but are top C or B level fighters at best.
BOXTRA’s at it again!!!! LOL.Posted February 26, 2014 7:00 pm
I dispute guerro ever being top 10 p4p. So many fighters that are better than him. He wouldn’t be top 30 p4p everPosted February 26, 2014 6:52 pm
If Devon Alexander beat Maidana then Mayweather will win by an easy and WIDE UD. Not even closePosted February 26, 2014 6:47 pm
Guerrero wasn’t top 5 p4pPosted February 26, 2014 6:44 pm
But YES in his last 13 Fights he has faced a CHAMP, a Top 10 P4P opponent, or BOTH 12 times!!! WOW!!!!Posted February 26, 2014 6:43 pm
I didn’t count Guerrero because he was an INTERIM CHAMP but I DO include Guerrero in the 5 Top 10 P4P opponents that Floyd faced and beat in his last 7 Fights.Posted February 26, 2014 6:41 pm
Cotto wasn’t weight drained in 09. PAC fights up when he fights at welter. Fighters fight dropping weight all the time. Hopkins still wins and he cuts every fightPosted February 26, 2014 6:40 pm
If Devon Alexander beat Maidana then Mayweather will win by an easy and WIDE UD. Not even close.Posted February 26, 2014 6:36 pm
More like…..All cherry picked opponents lead the road to mayweather!!Posted February 26, 2014 5:57 pm
Besides, Mitchell, who was a test dummy at WW (as Floyd was always small enough to stay at Jr. WW but he wanted the bigger fights and bigger paydays). You can also strike out Brusells (first 2005 bout) who was supposed to be showing how Cotto would do against Floyd back then (but Cotto’s people didn’t want the fight… even though they were ringside and putting on airs)Posted February 26, 2014 5:44 pm
Boxtradamus: Technically, from 2005 to now, every one of his opponents were title holders (he didn’t fight for SSM’s title, and JMM didn’t own a title at the weight, but was a title holder and P4Per.. Mosley was a P4Per when they fought also). Arturo Gatti (was the champion), Judah, Baldomir, Oscar, Hatton, Marquez, Mosley, Ortiz, Cotto, Guerrero, and Álvarez. Many of those guys were top 10 P4P ranked, multiple division champions and such. And Maidana will be the 12th champion or P4P top 10er in his last 13 fights…. from 140-154 mind you. It’s truly spectacular.Posted February 26, 2014 5:41 pm
the right choice but still easy Money.Posted February 26, 2014 5:40 pm
Floyd is about to defeat his 11th CHAMP in his last 13 Fights! WOW! !! No one can match it!!!Posted February 26, 2014 5:31 pm
Was Mayweather Sr, drunk when he said all that BS. Go back and read your post again. HahahahahaPosted February 26, 2014 5:08 pm
The Right choice for an easy Mayweather win. I like maidana, but he is nowhere near mayweathers level. Mayweather knows this, and that’s why he is fighting maidana.Posted February 26, 2014 5:06 pm
Hey does anyone have any info on the floyd Mayweather SR. Fight, the old man fight???
1. If this fight happens and the ringside doctor does a prostate exam between rounds can I get my money back ?
2. Will there be a senior discont at ticket master ?
3. Has anyone got information on which funeral home will sponsor the fight ??
4. Is it true that instead of an under-card fan’s will participate in a game of bingo ??
5. If we fan’s buy tickets for a possible re-match and fighters die of natural causes beforehand are we entitled to a refund ??
Thanks guy’s.Posted February 26, 2014 4:55 pm
The top news of the day is about Manny Pacquiao. The long awaited Movie “MANNY” narrated by the great actor Liam Neeson is set to open in the Philippines on March 12th. I suggest everyone that comments on the ESB site view this inspirational documentary about the ONLY 8 division Boxing Champion in history. I truly believe this will be nominated for Documentary of the year. Manny Pacquiao is a living legend that astounded the sports world when he came on the scene. Today, he is widely considered the greatest fighter of all time. This highly anticipated documentary should be sensational and will open the eyes of those that have never taken the time to learn about this prize fighting warrior. Congratulations to Manny Pacquiao for adding another successful step in his already impressive life and career.Posted February 26, 2014 4:40 pm
All those that were talking about the Mayweather Poll, Alex Ariza had the best comment and called it:
No, Stupid would be to assume that he’s NOT looking at all the polls before deciding… More votes means more Money! ~Alex Ariza twitterPosted February 26, 2014 4:31 pm
That said, Pac should leave Arum just like Floyd and Oscar did.
Arum is good at building up fighters, making them a name, making them money, but relationships tend to come to an end when one partner still thinks he deserves to much of the pie.Posted February 26, 2014 4:26 pm
Jesus or “Yeshua” was Jewish, he seemed cool. There were a lot of Jewish activist fighting for civil rights for “African-Americans,” as well as those that helped relations with the arts and sports among other things in the USA.
There are good and bad in every culture across the board because they are all Human beings and Human beings are screwed up.Posted February 26, 2014 4:24 pm
Floyd and Pac ducked Paul Williams.Posted February 26, 2014 4:23 pm
Oscar De La Hoya left Bob Arum, my son left Bob Arum. These were the biggest fighters in the world at the time they left Bob Arum, and they are some of the biggest fighters still today,” Floyd Sr. said when asked about giving advice to Pacquiao.
“I think if Pacquiao had any sense, I think he would jump on the same wagon and get rolling,” he added.
Pacquiao is the top fighter of Arum’s Top Rank Promotions, and this has long been a contentious issue that has blocked a potential mega-fight with Mayweather Jr.
Floyd Sr. said it would serve Pacquiao well to sever all ties with Arum and instead accept a fight with his son, on the condition that it will be Floyd Jr. who will be setting all the terms of the fight.
“Floyd is calling the shots, it’s simple,” the trainer said. “That way right there, everything will be taken care of.”
“With Little Floyd being the king of everything, Pacquiao is gonna take that test, and then Pacquiao is gonna have to settle for what Floyd wants him to have, simple,” he added.Posted February 26, 2014 4:21 pm
Haters are going to hate. Manny has a lot to prove aside the fact the got KTFO by Marquez the last credible fighter he beat was Cotto weight drained in 09. He lost 2 out of his last 3 fights and he never dominated Bradley. No one is scared of Manny he is under a slave contract with Arum and no one will deal with him. Why would Floyd bow to a Jew when he makes 150-200 million a year without him? They cannot stand a black man with that much power. Floyd runs boxing all road lead to him. And trust Manny will never submit to random blood test. He will KO Bradley this time because the fcker will be juiced to the gills. As we speak they are putting stipulations on the blood testing I am confused the whole purpose of random testing is so that you cant hide anything and prove yourself clean. How the hell can I fcker dictate the terms of a test? He says drawing blood will effect his performance and you ass clowns believed it Manny is some peoples God.Posted February 26, 2014 4:07 pm
PAC GOT KNOCK THE FOUT KNOCKED OUT COLD THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO WANT TO SEE MONEY AND A WASHED UP BUM LIKE PAC ARE ALL THESE IGNORANT WHITE BOYSPosted February 26, 2014 2:59 pm
Perhaps Floydie could have a poll to see how many think he should fight PacqPosted February 26, 2014 2:56 pm
Not sure Pac would agree to random testing considering that he isn’t doing it with Bradley. Bradley is the only one doing Vada, Pac is doing the weak testing by Nevada
^of course not! he’s a cheater bro! #QUACKMANPosted February 26, 2014 2:43 pm
Floyd fighting maidana is only about Money due to the date khan may have lost 2 out for the last 4 but the is a very good fighter that I would like to se Floyd fight.Posted February 26, 2014 2:41 pm
Not sure Pac would agree to random testing considering that he isn’t doing it with Bradley. Bradley is the only one doing Vada, Pac is doing the weak testing by NevadaPosted February 26, 2014 2:35 pm
Someone needs to explain to me why Pac is still with Arum if he feels he is on the level of Floyd popularity wise since Floyd makes a lot more money than he does for his shows and that is down to not only the guaranteed money/PPV/Venue, but he keeps the overhead and writes out the checks to those that work for him. Pac should be doing that.Posted February 26, 2014 2:16 pm
They should meet but they won’t because Pac is still with Arum unless Arum moves out of the way. If Pac beats Bradley and Pac shoves Arum aside, I think it can happen since its a Big Win for Pac and the best selling fight out there for Floyd would be Pac.
Drug testing would obviously be on the table which Manny would agree to.
And the percentage, well, I’m not sure how that works. Opening up the books is the best way.Posted February 26, 2014 2:11 pm
We love you Floyd.Posted February 26, 2014 2:07 pm
Benedict the Benificent
@PurpleHaze That was then and this is now. Things have moved on.
Benedict the Benificent
Floyd isn’t “mostly to blame.” Both Pac and Floyd are on equal ground for blame given all the %#$#$ negotiation tactics by both sides.
One thing was known from the start, Floyd won’t do business with Arum because Arum ripped him off before and prevented him from becoming a bigger start earlier…if you go by what seems to be Floyd’s reasoning. Once Floyd took control of his own career, he took off in Popularity and Financially.
Two: Drug testing, when presented, should have never been negotiated by Pac. Just take it. Others have, so why not. Especially since when you pass the test, well, if you pass the tests, you can shove them back in Floyd’s face. And Floyd was taking the same tests so its on equal ground.
For Floyd, nobody can say he wasn’t somewhat reluctant to face Pac. After all, he threw in the drug testing because he saw something that worried him.
So obviously, I was for the additional drug testing, pushing Arum out of the picture, and the fight should have been made. I’m not saying the 40 million was or wasn’t fair, I don’t know, they could have left that up to an independent to come in and review the books. Of course, Manny may have found out that Arum was ripping him off so of course that wasn’t going to happen.Posted February 26, 2014 2:00 pm
The level of excitement for this fight is yaaawn. 1 floyd outboxed Canelo with ease, chino is much more basic… One boring sparring session. Look at Vegas odds. Says it allPosted February 26, 2014 1:54 pm
Benedict the Benificent
C’mon Floyd, stop ducking the Pac Man. It’s the biggest fight out there, my good fellow!Posted February 26, 2014 1:34 pm
Benedict the Benificent
@PurpleHaze True, but Floyd is the one people mostly blame for the fight not happening. They should still meet, as they have been the best boxers and the biggest stars of recent times.Posted February 26, 2014 1:32 pm
This is very must the same song then mayweather was about to face Canelo, I doent think it will be must different.Posted February 26, 2014 1:32 pm
Khan was trying take the David Haye route unfortunately he is not as good of a talkerPosted February 26, 2014 1:22 pm
Peej beat me to it.Posted February 26, 2014 1:17 pm
Bum ass Khan doesn’t try to earn anything, he actually thought he could talk his way into a Floyd fight. He’s the biggest clown in boxing. His career is in tatters.Posted February 26, 2014 1:17 pm
Yes he put up a poll. A poll that would have showed the same results as the other 3 polls that had Maidana winning, if not for Khan crying to his Twitter followers to vote for him.Posted February 26, 2014 1:16 pm
There were actually several polls. Khan only won one of them. Maidana won the others. At least that is the report from what I have read on some boxing sites.Posted February 26, 2014 1:15 pm
Them main point here is, that Floyd Mayweather put up a poll. Lot of fans wasted their time by voting on TMT-website only to become sucker punched by Mr.Mayweather. Arrogance at its best.Posted February 26, 2014 12:59 pm
When Maidana fought Broner everybody said Floyd would never fight Maidana. When Khan was the main option everybody said he is cherry picking Khan. Now that he settled on the fighter that everybody said he wouldn’t fight he is now ducking Khan, someone who has yet to fight at 147 but yet yall still say he is ducking Khan. Ridiculous. And what is even more amazing is that yall still say he will lose but he would have success at the beginning. Yall actually think winning 2 rounds on Floyd is success. lolPosted February 26, 2014 12:47 pm
Do I think Khan earned a shot, NO. Has Maidana earned this more, YES. That being said though, Kahn was the better option, at least he would have given Floyd some trouble early on due to his speed. Dont think he would have won, Mayweather would have caught up with him around 6th onwards for a mid to late stoppage.
Cant help but feel Khan was the better option for the fans!Posted February 26, 2014 12:38 pm
Crap article trying to justify Mayweather picking the easier option. Khan, and of course, Paquiao are too dangerous and must be avoided. Can’t understand why anybody would want to pay for this.Posted February 26, 2014 12:33 pm
Khan will look for the easiest, softest route to a Floyd fight, which will probably include another long spell of inactivity while Khan resumes trying to talk his way into a May 2015 slot. Khan will fight a soft target within the next 15 weeks and then do nothing for a year. Bum ass Khan doesn’t try to earn anything, what a joke when he says “I’ll fight anyone, I never duck anyone”. Yeah, right.Posted February 26, 2014 12:29 pm
If Arum isn’t willing to make the fight and Floyd isn’t willing to work with Arum then well the fight won’t be made. Only folks to blame is Arum, Pac and Floyd.Posted February 26, 2014 12:25 pm
Guys this is funny, Khan is telling people how great Julio Diaz was when he fought him, and that Diaz is now being avoided by everyone in the division. How crazy is Khan? Yes Amir, Floyd is ducking Julio Diaz too right? Man, Khan is absolutely insane, he needs a psychiatrist.Posted February 26, 2014 12:22 pm
Khan is still crying and is now curled up like a baby in his oxygen tent, whispering to himself how much he wanted to retire after collecting that Floyd lottery pay day. Now he has to box again to earn a shot at Floyd and he hates it. He wanted a nice, soft, easy ride to a Floyd pay day but he now realises he won’t get it. Bum ass punk.Posted February 26, 2014 12:11 pm
Maidana is right choice for Fraud ie but very wrong for the fans. The right choice is the fight that fans w Ianted to see Fraudie vs Pac. Maidana won the lottery because it was fixed for him to win. Just my opinion.Posted February 26, 2014 12:06 pm
The era in which they in also helped them out. NEITHER Pac or May would be fighting at WW if the big boys were in their prime now like Tommy Hearns and Sugar Ray Leonard.
Duran probably beats both of them as well. More so Pac than May. Prime vs. Prime.Posted February 26, 2014 11:51 am
Benedict the Benificent
Both Pac and May should be criticized for not making the fight happen and its a big strike against there legacy.
Both had big Egos, both made excuses, both should not be talked about with the likes of some others who did make big fights happen when they should have happened.
Both also can be noted for avoiding certain fighters through the waiting game or simply just avoidance.
Both are overrated by their fans.
Both calculated their careers.Posted February 26, 2014 11:49 am
Khan is crying like a baby. You don’t hear men like Garcia or Thurman crying like this. Khan is a disgrace. Maidana earned it.Posted February 26, 2014 11:41 am
floyd the face of boxing is a black man understand that white manPosted February 26, 2014 11:20 am
Considering that Maidana has a title and is on a win streak, hard to say he is a cherry picked fight. Especially since the other guy worthy of the fight is signed to fight Pac.Posted February 26, 2014 10:34 am
Correct Maidana is the right choice for another cherrypicked. Fraud ie loves cherries.Posted February 26, 2014 10:32 am
Pac will regret signing with Arum when his career is done. Not only will he have money issues but they will say if you weren’t with Arum you could of got that fight with Floyd. Too bad Arum was holding you back.Posted February 26, 2014 10:15 am
Constantine the Czar
My friends, Floyd* Mayweather is not a legendary fighter who will leave warm memories. Manny Pacquiao is a legendary fighter who will. SHOWCASING his extraordinary talent ALL OVER THE GLOBE, Manny fights from Las Vegas in the US to Macao in China, from South Africa to his Filipino homeland, from sea to shining sea. Manny is A TRULY INTERNATIONAL CELEBRITY and BOXING SUPERSTAR, coming out on top in all his major rivalries against FELLOW ALL TIME GREATS Barrera, Morales and Marquez, winning WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS in EIGHT divisions, awarded numerous Ring Magazine Fighter of the Year distinctions and being voted FIGHTER OF THE DECADE by his peers and esteemed journalists. Everyone in the fight game bows down before the greatness of Manny Pacquiao, for he is a Colossus of the sport, like a young God from Mount Olympus, another Thor, a Superman, Spiderman, Batman, Captain America and Captain Marvel rolled into one, not to mention Iron Man of course. My friends, Emmanuel Pacquiao or ‘Manny’ as he is known, Manny Pacquiao is a larger-than-life personality who rose from grinding poverty to become boxing’s Number One Global Attraction and Number One Superstar, who steps OUTSIDE his comfort zone to travel the WORLD, unlike that Floyd Mayweather character. Manny is like Ali in that respect, a globe-trotting MAN OF THE PEOPLE. My friends and accquaintances, Manny is reminiscent of a speeding supersonic comet, a blazing meteor, a shining glistening shooting star, a supernova even, a dazzling dancing destructive destroyer, a fearless ferocious Filipino phenomenon, a peerless maestro, a punching pugulistic punisher of opponents, a tornado of tremendous terror tormenting his terrified and hapless foes, a superhuman specimen who overwhelms by sheer force of nature, a hurricane of hurt, a storm of Shock And Awe, a whirlwind who leaves the broken egos of his defeated rivals lying in his wake. There is NO ONE in the game today who can match Manny Pacquiao’s achievements as an 8 WEIGHT DIVISION WORLD CHAMPION: in fact, there is no one who can compare to the incomparible Manny Pacquiao and his legendary status in the sport. His legacy is beyond dispute as AN ALLTIME GREAT WARRIOR whose fights will live forever in the minds of those who have witnessed them. Manny, yes, Manny, is the best, bar none.Posted February 26, 2014 9:09 am
This fight has another borefest wriiten all over it. I can’t understand how people are getting excited about this fight, if this isn’t a shut out I will eat my hat. This fight will be free in the UK and Ireland and I can assure you I won’t be tuning it for another non-event like the canelo fight. Khan at least would like bring something new to the table, i gave him zero chance of winning but at least there would have been a few interesting moments with his handspeed.Posted February 26, 2014 9:07 am
Hec Dog- I bet that movie is like porn to you.Posted February 26, 2014 9:04 am
Mama:hahaha You know whats so funny??hehehe
Floyd:..Mama’you think Maidana can beat me?
Posted FebruaPosted February 26, 2014 8:49 am
Mama:Floyd son..whats your next excuse to avoid Pacquiao?
Khan is still complaining and crying. Bum ass punk. Khan will have to get back to the back of the line and earn it like everyone else. Bum ass.Posted February 26, 2014 8:42 am
Benedict the Benificent
Floyd will avoid Manny until the end of his career. He’ll regret it in years to come, when people come up to him and say ‘hey Floyd, you were a great fighter, but you ducked Manny Pacquao!’.Posted February 26, 2014 8:22 am
Let’s face it, for people who like to see a somewhat competitive fight or see Mayweather a little bit challenged this fight just doesn’t come into those categories. Maidana is someone to route for but beating Broner, losing to Alexander and beating Lopez and Soto-Karass means he has not beat anyone highly rated at Welterweight to face the current p4p rated no.1. This is a forgone conclusion of a fight whereby there are a lot better challengers.Posted February 26, 2014 6:54 am
$$$ AB $$$$$
We understand !! You hate being you and wish you were us !Posted February 26, 2014 6:51 am
Mama:Ok Floyd’..Let’s all assume you beat Maidana,which isn’t gonna be easy because I know if he lands a bomb on you..It’s lights out!
@Tony G – True, and on top of that Khan beat Maidana! All Maidana has done is beat an overrated Broner!Posted February 26, 2014 4:58 am
$$$ AB $$$$$
When Floyd wins its like I win ! So it will be like I avenged my loss…!Posted February 26, 2014 4:43 am
floyd is funny
Its maydana baby all the way!!!! Maydana maydana !!!Posted February 26, 2014 4:38 am
Teflon I don’t think that GGG and floyd will fight but, manny isn’t a true welter and could fight at 135. He fights up against bigger guys, he has rarely fought a smaller. So yes floyd could fight GGG and would go close to winning. But not certain it should happenPosted February 26, 2014 4:34 am
NO, hes not the right choice, his slow crude style is made for Mayweather, thats why he picked Maidana, even a retard knows that! Mayweather doesnt want a guy with speed, movement and power – hence no Pacman, no Khan, the guy is a yellowbelly and all smoke and mirrors!Posted February 26, 2014 4:19 am
He earned it. Khan earned nothing. Khan is still crying on the internet and complaining. Be a man and earn it, Khan.Posted February 26, 2014 4:03 am
The usual jerk off Floyd nut suckers are out in force tonight. Q, Peej the prime nut hugger and some others. Sad man, sad.Posted February 26, 2014 4:03 am
Another glorified sparring session. Wake me when it’s over.Posted February 26, 2014 3:58 am
This fight is lame for ppv money specifically. I’d watch it on showtime all day. If i watch it it’ll be online for free or the next wknd for free. It’s just not challenging.Posted February 26, 2014 3:49 am
Fight Aficionado avoiding a middleweight? You moron GGG is a 160lbs who hasn’t fought nobody but cab drivers. I guess next Floyd should fight Klitscko. GGG is way to big when Floyd fought at 154lbs he cannot even make the weight he is best at 147lbs. No way he would be crazy enough to venture that far up,. Floyd cannot even make 154lbs he always comes in under at about 150lbs.Posted February 26, 2014 3:35 am
“Floyd is avoiding GGG. He campaigns 2 weight divisions above him at a stage where Floyd has moved up to the maximum weight his body will ever be comfortable fighting at.” – Simple. Floyd has two belts at 154 and GGG offered to fight at 154. Nobody’s asking Floyd to switch weight divisions.Posted February 26, 2014 3:17 am
Yes between Maidana and Khan the right choice is Maidana. But the fact is those two should not have been the only choices in Floyd’s idiotic poll. Pacquiao is the right choice at 147. If Floyd’s going at 154 then the right choices are abundant: Lara, GGG or Martinez. None of them were included because they’re all fights Floyd could lose.Posted February 26, 2014 3:16 am
I really don’t understand why people continue to say that Floyd is avoiding GGG. He campaigns 2 weight divisions above him at a stage where Floyd has moved up to the maximum weight his body will ever be comfortable fighting at. He just doesn’t have the frame to carry the extra 13 pounds in weight. And who is it exactly that he is avoiding? A guy whose best win is Matthew Macklin? I’m not a huge mayweather fan but this is ridiculous! If GGG really wants the fight then he should drop to 154, beat some decent fighters and get in line. Not beat up bum’s at 160 (Adama’s last 2 opponents before GGG had about 38 losses between them, but no flack for his choice of opponent!).Posted February 26, 2014 3:14 am
EL Chino will need to catch Floyd early with power shots because after round 5 Floyd will have him figured out and will barely get touched, But in saying that this is boxing, and all of the ATG’s have been caught at one point and lost, Robinson, Ali, Duran, Leonard, Hearns, Tyson, Holyfield, Foreman, Delahoya,Sweet Pea, Tszyu ect……Posted February 26, 2014 3:12 am
On may 3rd the “0″ will goPosted February 26, 2014 2:48 am
Fighter of a decade is pretty specialPosted February 26, 2014 2:11 am
Hecdog ” Today, he is widely considered the greatest fighter of all time.” by PactardsPosted February 26, 2014 2:09 am
Cyrus ( the virus) & rod – guess you two have issues in telling the difference between boxing skills and nuts perhaps you’re in the wrong site boys.Posted February 26, 2014 12:53 am
The top news of the day is about Manny Pacquiao. The long awaited Movie “MANNY” narrated by the great actor Liam Neeson is set to open in the Philippines on March 12th. I suggest everyone that comments on the ESB site view this inspirational documentary about the ONLY 8 division Boxing Champion in history. I truly believe this will be nominated for Documentary of the year. Manny Pacquiao is a living legend that astounded the sports world when he came on the scene. Today, he is widely considered the greatest fighter of all time. This highly anticipated documentary should be sensational and will open the eyes of those that have never taken the time to learn about this prize fighting warrior. Congratulations to Manny Pacquiao for adding another successful step in his already impressive life and career.Posted February 26, 2014 12:39 am
El Chino is a real life Rocky Balboa, he goes about his business with absolutely no pretentiousness, he’s a true gentleman outside of the ring and has proven time and again that he can handle all the adversity you can throw at a man and still comes out swinging. And that’s why this fight is interesting: His victory over Broner was the most satisfying upset in a looooong time and beating May would be perhaps the biggest upset in the history of boxing, but I will tune in because I genuinely like the guy, he delivers drama and, even though its very hard to find a scenario where Rocky beats Apollo in real life, I know he’ll make it interesting.Posted February 26, 2014 12:08 am
Manny Paquiao is the only right choice. Everyone else is just Mayweather avoiding Pacman.Posted February 25, 2014 11:56 pm
Amir Khan is a loser. If he wants a big paycheck he needs to earn it.Posted February 25, 2014 11:54 pm
I can see a Castillo similarity in Maidana. Maidana must catch Mayweather like he did with Broner or it will be an easy fight for Mayweather.Posted February 25, 2014 11:52 pm
There’s no apologies NEEDED for facing 11 CHAMPS in 13 Fights. The apologies are needed for those who couldn’t DO it.
Posted February 25, 2014 11:45 pm
Or refused to do it bro…..Posted February 25, 2014 11:48 pm
There’s no apologies NEEDED for facing 11 CHAMPS in 13 Fights. The apologies are needed for those who couldn’t DO it.Posted February 25, 2014 11:45 pm
Mayweather apologists…smfhPosted February 25, 2014 11:38 pm
Cyrus got it right.Posted February 25, 2014 11:06 pm
te tumbo, Happyboy, B Red and Boxtradamus all be slurping on Floyd Mayweather’s nuts (a shame for so-called grown men) and they hurt every so often, so Floyd has to let them go…Posted February 25, 2014 11:05 pm
I think it’s Boxtradamus who’s the SISSY here.Posted February 25, 2014 10:59 pm
I wonder whether Miadana is gonna take a dive like Canelo did and box from the outside instead of stalking.Posted February 25, 2014 10:57 pm
Lmao epic fight 5/3 featuring Floyd vs The Gatekeeper. Anyone who buys this would’ve spent their money better getting sucka tattooed on their forehead. Really this is the fight you take after allegedly becoming the lineal jmw champ. Right now of all those who have participated in combat sports I rank Ronda Rousey ahead of Floyd in alk time rankings.Posted February 25, 2014 10:51 pm
oh please stop with the BS that Mayweather will be “tested” with this fight. Its a no brainer. Mayweather has all the advantages in this fight. Thats why it was made. If anything it will be a good sparring match. Mayweather by UD. easiest prediction ever…Posted February 25, 2014 10:38 pm
Looking forward to this fight. Even though Chino lacks speed, reflexes, ect. He does not lack heart and Floyd will be tested more so than he has been in recent years. My prediction is that Floyd will win in a tougher than expected fight. Then O’boy needs to fight MP and Thurman. And I would not blame him if he fought easy fights i.e. Khan, Garcia, BronerPosted February 25, 2014 10:32 pm
GREAT points Q!! I particularly liked the blow job comment! Pac really DID react as IF Floyd asked him for a blow job. Its only a blood test SISSY!!!Posted February 25, 2014 10:13 pm
Yeah, well, most people believe Golovkin could beat Floyd pretty easily. Can’t disagree with that. Golovkin would destroy Mayweather and Floyd will do all he can to avoid Tripple G as he has Pacquiao.
Posted February 25, 2014 9:31 pm
I say let GGG move his butt down to 147 if he want Floyd. GGG can come to Floyd town, the town of 147, or shut up and have a tall glass of baby GRAVEY.
Granger – GGG doesn’t fight champions or top tier boxers, get your facts right.Posted February 25, 2014 10:11 pm
if Golovkin can make 147lbs, he should issue the challenge even though challenging welterweights will hardly increase his prestige. otherwise, there are fighters Golovkin’s size that he can try on for size first, e.g., Andre Ward or some other genuine middleweight.Posted February 25, 2014 9:48 pm
Maidana is the right choice just not the most intriguing. in either case, Mayweather remains undefeated. if the likes of Ortiz and Khan can drop Maidana it’s almost a certainty that Floyd be able too. even Josesito had Maidana in trouble for a spell in their slugfest but Maidana’s middle name is “Epic”. he’s risen from the canvas to salvage wins and even in losses has risen from the canvas and remained dangerous until the final bell but it won’t be anything that Mayweather won’t be able to handle.Posted February 25, 2014 9:45 pm
Yeah, well, most people believe Golovkin could beat Floyd pretty easily. Can’t disagree with that. Golovkin would destroy Mayweather and Floyd will do all he can to avoid Tripple G as he has Pacquiao.Posted February 25, 2014 9:31 pm
Q]= GOD OF BOXING KNOWLEDGE
I think Mayweather should take out another voting poll but this time asking his fans and everyone around the world: ” Who wants to see me fight Pacquioa?” Vote Yes or No.Posted February 25, 2014 9:29 pm
Granger – You can think of them, but that doesn’t mean anyone has to agree, lol. Meanwhile, Floyd asked for a blood test not a blow job, and Manny has himself demanded blood test lately. It’s all quite the joke. Poor Manny.Posted February 25, 2014 9:27 pm
“What happens when Maidana realizes Mayweather is not Broner, he’s the original make and model?”
I’m quite certain that Marcos Rene Maidana knows who and what Floyd Mayweather Jr. is. There is no need to hype this fight. The “majority” of fans got what they want–there’s no need to preach to the choir.Posted February 25, 2014 9:24 pm
Sorry, but the “greatest fighter of his age,” cannot possibly be a guy who has purposely and shamelessly avoided his greatest threat for most of is career. I can think f at least 10 greater fighters than Mayweather during this present age. Now, you can call him the greatest marathon runner/boxer of his age.Posted February 25, 2014 9:22 pm
Floyd was campaigning at 130-135 when Kostya was a 140 pounder** (and about to retire against Hatton)Posted February 25, 2014 9:21 pm
Meanwhile, Manny Paquiao fizzled quick. His lack of longevity speaks a bit about him as well. He didn’t beat not ONE person from 130-154 that Floyd didn’t or couldn’t, then he gets KTFO by JMM. Manny is also the catchweight king, etc etc. Sing your praises for Manny, but it’s FMJ > MP easily. Too bad many too so long to start HIMSELF DEMANDING blood test, what a joke. Anyway, I have my opinion based on facts, but some people don’t pay much attention to the facts. Canelo Vs. Angulo = fighting someone of a loss as someone off a loss. FMJ Vs. Maidana = fighting a guy going through the best stretch of his career and the best win of his career = typical mayweather.Posted February 25, 2014 9:20 pm
Nice points QPosted February 25, 2014 9:16 pm
“He cowardly continues to run. The quality Cuban Erislandy Lara. He doesn’t even think about. GGG, forget about it. In his earlier days,he ran from Kostya Tyzu, Shane Mosely, Oscar De La Hoya, Paul Williams and many others.” – I think you need to be checking the weight classes and years around these events. Lol. The sad thing is it seems reasonable enough to go along with if you don’t really know the facts. Kostya was campaigning at 130-135 when Kostya was a 140 pounder, and Floyd was coming up but Tszyu fought AND QUIT IN THE CORNER against Ricky Hatton. GGG is a 30 something year old middleweight, and Floyd is pushing it fightin 154 pounders. Canelo was the #1 at 154, not Lara… Canelo and Lara should be the ones fighting. Heck, I wouldn’t even blamed Floyd for not fighting champions at 154. Moving up in weight to fight a boxer isn’t the same as draining down to fight guys. And Floyd has moved up to fight the best multiple times, and guys with very notable size advantages… like Canelo for one. Shane was chasing ODH, and I think Floyd was just becoming a LW when they were fighting a JR. MW. (check the divisions and times). Floyd has been consistently fighting guys coming off their best performances and biggest wins, and Maidanna is no exception. But the good thing is that I write from a factual perspective, and you write with everything warped and dishonest, inaccurate, lol. So it holds no weight. There is so much wrong with your long post, but any investigation can defunct it, I’ll pass. I’ll leave it at what I’ve written, lol.Posted February 25, 2014 9:14 pm
Nice hatersbeware. The man got ktfo and they keep saying that Floyd is ducking him. Lol! Fought the man four times that Floyd already beat. All PAC had to do at the time was take the test.Posted February 25, 2014 9:14 pm
This is better than the Khan fight.Posted February 25, 2014 9:09 pm
Pac is the right choice.Posted February 25, 2014 9:07 pm
Its funny how Manny beat Cotto, Oscar, Hatton, Shane and Marquez. But when Floyd beat all these same guys they were cherry picked. Also Floyd Handpicked Canelo. I never heard of anyone handpicking a undefeated fighter one of the most dangerous guys in boxing. Its also funny how Manny walked away from 40 million and the biggest fight of his life over a blood test. But Floyd is scared? Why would someone bother making terms for a fight he never intended on it happening? I guess he knew Manny would turn him down he read his mind lol. The same ass clowns accused Floyd of being Afraid of Margerito and the fool had plaster of Paris in his gloves and almost killed Cotto. Floyd is on top and Manny is not and all roads lead to Mayweather so he has to bow down accept the terms like everyone else and he will get his ass beat like everyone else simple….Posted February 25, 2014 9:05 pm
@Hecdog- You wrote all of that to sing the tired old song about Pacman. Your argument has no value as the facts are all mixed and matched to try and make a point about a man who due to contractual obligation with another company cannot fight Maywether. No one is afraid of Pacman, people are afraid of a boxer who refused to accept PEDs testing while he is training in a 3rd world country where PEDs are readily accessable and legal to obtain and use. Look at the issue of PEDs testing whit his upcoming fight. If you agree that Pac is more than likely on some enhancing substance, I will agree that Maywether does not want to fight him, and that is what maywether said- why should he fight someone who has an unfair advantage. No one is ducking Manny- He is just another man like anyone else, and not the GOD you guys wish for him to be.Posted February 25, 2014 8:55 pm
Maidana is game but by no means would I pick him or favor him to beat Mayweather. Mayweather has ALL the ADVANTAGES in this fight. Mayweather will not stand and trade with Marcos like Broner did.Posted February 25, 2014 8:51 pm
Hec dog poor pathetic Manny nutt huggerPosted February 25, 2014 8:51 pm
Anyway Maidana is hotter at 147 because Khan has never been to 147.Posted February 25, 2014 8:49 pm
*AGREE good post.Posted February 25, 2014 8:48 pm
Between Maidaina and Khan of course it’s ‘the right choice’. However in the grand scheme of things as much as I like Maidaina, he is a weak opponent. Expect Mayweather Vs Gatti (RIP) II.
Solid comparison bro. I like the improvements Maidana has shown under R Garcia but I said it aloud the night he beat Broner, “Maidana is not ready for Floyd as Broner is no way close to comparison ”
Good luck Maidana and glad you are getting a well deserved payday @ 147Posted February 25, 2014 8:46 pm
Horrible, ridiculous article trying to convince smart boxing fans that Maidana is the best option for Mayweather. Once again, Floyd has HUGE advantages in speed, boxing skills, agility, athleticism, experience, reflexes, talent, defense, ring generalship and every aspect of boxing. Alexander beat Maidana fairly easy, Khan beat Maidana and hit him with everything conceivable. And some other unknown guy back in 2009 gave Maidana a boxing lesson. Now, tell me how on earth Maidana has any kind of chance to win this fight. All this after Mr. Coward Mayweather puts out some DUMB pole for his fans, and the fans pick Khan, and still Mayweather makes fools of them all as he goes the opposite way that his fans voted for. Mayweather is making a mockery of this wonderful sport. He has DUCKED everyone that posed a challenge to him. He has obviously ran, hid and left the country just to avoid Manny Pacquiao. This fight will not go the distance, and it will be a replay of Mayweather vs Baldomir or worse, Larry Holmes vs Randall ‘Tex” Cobb. This will follow the massacre of Canelo vs Angulo. These are fights that will see one fighter destroying their limited one dimensional opponents. These fights are not competitive in the least. Once again, the 80′s and 90′s offered great competitive fights pitting the top contenders or champions fighting each other. Today, we have Floyd Mayweather as the model of ducking opposition, lying to his fans, and cherry picking those fights that present no challenge to him due to old age, catch weights, physically drained opponents, one dimensional or inexperience. Fans have been clamoring for Mayweather to fight Manny Pacquiao. He cowardly continues to run. The quality Cuban Erislandy Lara. He doesn’t even think about. GGG, forget about it. In his earlier days,he ran from Kostya Tyzu, Shane Mosely, Oscar De La Hoya, Paul Williams and many others. Floyd Mayweather made some good choices picking his management team. He has made a lot of money. He remains unbeaten in the record books even though he lost to Castillo and an old Oscar De La Hoya. He still is looked at as the DUCKER, DODGER, AVOIDER and most importantly, the man that is plain scared of fighting Manny Pacquiao. Floyd Mayweather will not another easy win to earn another padded victory over a tough, but very limited Marcos Maidana. And the only way these types of lower level fights will stop will be when fans stop buying these horrible PPV fights. The under card will undoubtedly be the Main Event. That’s how Haymon and company seem try to convince fans to pay ridiculous amounts of money for these PPV. Don’t buy this PPV if you’re smart. Floyd already had his laugh as he went the opposite way that his fans voted for. Don’t think for a second he won’t be laughing when you pay for next PPV.Posted February 25, 2014 8:30 pm
Anonymous – 2
Although Marcos Maidana is a courageous, game, and exciting fighter, Marcos Maidana probably will not challenge Floyd Mayweather in a meaningful manner. Floyd has already demonstrated the capacity to fight individuals who utilized the brawling, mauling style employed by Maidana. Additionally, Floyd is stronger than Maidana. One only need consider the manner in which Floyd manhandled Shane Mosley and Canelo Alvarez to get a sense of just how physically powerful he is. Hence, while Maidana has a “puncher’s chance,” the most likely outcome is Floyd by decision.
The most ridiculous aspect of the articles/blogs posted on Eastside Boxing are those by writers who are attempting to justify the decision by Floyd Mayweather to fight Marcos Maidana (or Canelo Alvarez or an overweight JMM or Ricky Hatton). There are multiple fighters who would provide Floyd Mayweather with a meaningful challenge, e.g., Manny Pacqiuao, Sergio Martinez, GGG, Erislandy Lara, certainly much more so than Marcos Maidana. If Floyd were to be candid about his selection, then he would say that Maidana fights in a manner that his custom made for Floyd Mayweather and that it’s probably going to be an easy money fight.
I will be candid and say that there is NO WAY that I will purchase this PPV monstrosity. It would be refreshing if the ES Boxing writers would be candid about the significance of this fight (very little), turn their backs on it, and not promote it. The only way that Floyd Mayweather will fight anyone who can provide a meaningful challenge is if no one watches these pathetic match-ups. By paying to watch this fight, and the other lame PPV match-ups that preceded it, Floyd Mayweather has proven that he does not need to fight elite level boxers in order to get paid. Que lastima.Posted February 25, 2014 8:30 pm
Maidana not deserving of this Fight because he is not the 2nd best Welterweight in the world period ..Posted February 25, 2014 8:28 pm
As I’ve written, Floyd has done a TON from 130-154, and Golovkin hasn’t done much of anything at his one division, and he’s not getting any younger. Floyd isn’t a Middleweight, anything hypothetical win that a 160 175 pound fighter would do against FMJ is about as irrelevant as any completely trivial ridiculous child like imagined event. Floyd > Golovkin ..there is no comparison nor will there ever be. Golovkin would have to clean out 160 then move UP in weight and beat an Andre Ward. Highly unlikely, but that’s just my opinion. If Golovkin was to fight Ward, I’d pick Ward for sure.Posted February 25, 2014 8:15 pm
This was the right choice Maidana is a lot more exciting than a mere glass jaw con. Plus Chico de Mayo will be huge in Vegas. GGG is way too big even if they met at 154lbs. Floyd always has troubles making the weight he is best 1t 147lbs. Plus GGG hasn’t fought anyone worth talking about. Floyd can show Broner how its done. Maidana is tough and is a hard puncher but class is in session. He will get school really easily and there morons will say he was handpicked….Posted February 25, 2014 8:13 pm
Floyd made the right choice. Maidana just came off beating up a Floyd want to be. Mayweather has made poor choices in the past such as Guerrero and Ortiz this one is much better if nothing more than the challenger being worthy. Kahn never earned this fight or beat anyone of significance to garner a shot at the Pound for Pound King.Posted February 25, 2014 8:05 pm
I agree. No way floyd fight triple g. However he doesn’t have to worry. Triple has plans to unify 160 and floyd has no intention of moving up to 160. If triple was goin to drop down to 160 he woulda been done it! He is already 31 going on 32. But if he did fight floyd at 154 i would pick triple g by late tko.Posted February 25, 2014 8:02 pm
“run away from Golovkin Floyd” what a joke, lol. Golovkin has to worry about making a real career for himself at 160 (his division). Floyd never would have to fight any campaigning Middleweight, and nothing could every be reasonably said about it…. but we’d always be able to point out that GGG doesn’t have a sterling resume at the weight he campaigns at anyway. Anyway, ridiculous. Lol.Posted February 25, 2014 8:01 pm
This was the right choice either way you split it. Next, if Bradley beats Manny again and isn’t tied to Arum, Mayweather Vs. Bradley would be a great fight. Bradley would be a more “worthy” opponent than Maidana, but Mai…madonna is a worth runner up, and this win against Broner makes for a great story line.Posted February 25, 2014 7:58 pm
“Already looking past this year and going to wait for 2015, to see Mayweather take a somewhat worthy opponent…”
I wouldn’t hold your breath if I were you. LOL
Run away from Golovkin, Floyd … run …Posted February 25, 2014 7:56 pm
Chino is def the right choice. He is more deserving. He has beat top 10 guys at 147 and khan hasnt. Also floyd would have been highly criticized for cherrypicking khan. Chino is the wba champ. 34-3 w 31 k.o. He arguably was robbed in 2 out of 3 of those fights. He is a dangerous puncher and a real threat to floyd! No cherrypicked opponent in chino. Props to floyd for fighting chino!Posted February 25, 2014 7:56 pm
Floyd may fight Garcia or one of those kids in September.Posted February 25, 2014 7:55 pm
Between Maidaina and Khan of course it’s ‘the right choice’. However in the grand scheme of things as much as I like Maidaina, he is a weak opponent. Expect Mayweather Vs Gatti (RIP) II.
To top it all off and to make it even more frustrating than it already is I suspect Khan will be selected to fight Mayweather in September.
So all in all a pretty weak year as far as opponents go for Mayweather, it’s a shame both fights will probably do decent numbers for them to justify choice of selection.
Already looking past this year and going to wait for 2015, to see Mayweather take a somewhat worthy opponent…Posted February 25, 2014 7:52 pm