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russell will beat this cracker behind

Posted March 4, 2014 11:57 am 


te tumbo

BUSTA, i’m always cool albeit intense and what complete strangers (and assorted blowhards) think of me on a message board doesn’t linger beyond the computer screen. however, i do enjoy having passionate discussions about my favorite sport. don’t appreciate having a lid slammed down on my head simply because “i’m not in somebody’s league”(?!). based on what? anyway, peace and enjoy the weather in Memphis.

Posted March 3, 2014 9:24 pm 


BUSTAJAY

te tumbo

BUSTA, the primary differences are:

1) I never claimed to be anything but a devoted fight-fan. Herron is the self-proclaimed “expert”.
2) I didn’t challenge Herron to anything more than a spelling-bee, in response to his obnoxious challenge to be on his show, at My expense(?!?).
3) IF Herron was truly out of my league as he insisted, he would be here crowing about how stupid I was to favor Salido and predict a UD for Chavez Jr. except that’s precisely what happened: NOT what He predicted.

simply follow the thread below. once Herron stops trying to browbeat loyal fight-fans for having honest opinions contrary to his, I will relent. otherwise, my job takes a lot more courage and dedication than simply reporting on boxing. bottomline, when some jerk like Herron, who is not on my level and really doesn’t have a clue as to what I’ve been through, attacks my integrity as a person and fight-fan, don’t expect me to just sit back and take it in the shorts . . . i strike back. on my own. without any desire to drag “everyone” into the fray. after all, i’ve survived a lot riskier situations than boxing-debates v. self-important blowhards like Herron.

Posted March 3, 2014 3:14 pm

Look Joseph can hold his own and I was just asking for some cooler heads.

I don’t know what is would cost you to debate the guy on his show but I call often and it’s free.

You guys will work it out bro.

I got to go as I am making a snowman in Memphis, TN….fo real

Posted March 3, 2014 5:35 pm 


te tumbo

Tumbo, this is why you could never be a sports journalist. You’re fanboy nut huggery doesn’t allow you to see the big picture of boxing.
Posted February 27, 2014 8:43 pm

Herron’s post that turned what was a boxing-related discussion into “Herron is always Right, or STFU!”

someone that insecure doesn’t merit my restraint or blind respect.

Posted March 3, 2014 3:18 pm 


te tumbo

BUSTA, the primary differences are:

1) I never claimed to be anything but a devoted fight-fan. Herron is the self-proclaimed “expert”.
2) I didn’t challenge Herron to anything more than a spelling-bee, in response to his obnoxious challenge to be on his show, at My expense(?!?).
3) IF Herron was truly out of my league as he insisted, he would be here crowing about how stupid I was to favor Salido and predict a UD for Chavez Jr. except that’s precisely what happened: NOT what He predicted.

simply follow the thread below. once Herron stops trying to browbeat loyal fight-fans for having honest opinions contrary to his, I will relent. otherwise, my job takes a lot more courage and dedication than simply reporting on boxing. bottomline, when some jerk like Herron, who is not on my level and really doesn’t have a clue as to what I’ve been through, attacks my integrity as a person and fight-fan, don’t expect me to just sit back and take it in the shorts . . . i strike back. on my own. without any desire to drag “everyone” into the fray. after all, i’ve survived a lot riskier situations than boxing-debates v. self-important blowhards like Herron.

Posted March 3, 2014 3:14 pm 


BUSTAJAY

te tumbo

HERRON, Bears should really HATE You for setting me up to look like a boxing genius or exposing yourself for a boxing-ignoramASS. “. . . when someone like Tumbo, who is not on my level and really doesn’t have a clue as to what I’ve been through in this industry, attacks my integrity as a person and professional, don’t expect me to just sit back and take it in the shorts”. assume the position hot-pants . . . (lol).

Posted March 2, 2014 1:09 pm

Man you are relentless and filled with some deep rooted issues other wise you would not come off as such a jerk.
Please let us all know when you get your own show so we can tune in to the “expert”. Psssst
It is very easy to sit back and throw criticism from home and feel like an expert.
It is okay to disagree but try using some tact with your responses bro…..uggggggh

Posted March 3, 2014 11:48 am 


te tumbo

HERRON, Bears should really HATE You for setting me up to look like a boxing genius or exposing yourself for a boxing-ignoramASS. “. . . when someone like Tumbo, who is not on my level and really doesn’t have a clue as to what I’ve been through in this industry, attacks my integrity as a person and professional, don’t expect me to just sit back and take it in the shorts”. assume the position hot-pants . . . (lol).

Posted March 2, 2014 1:09 pm 


te tumbo

“So criticize all you want, but don’t be surprised if Lomo does a paint job on your boy this Saturday night!!” and “Chavez will not be effective at using the entire ring and setting traps for Vera because that’s not his forte” (lol).

this fight-card is a perfect example of why true fight-fans need to disregard the white noise created by assorted “experts” and “journalists” and shills), i.e., “Don’t Believe the Hype”. Lomachenko looked and fought like an amateur completely out of his depth among the pros last night with his pitty-pat flurries and zero body-attack. he’s exceedingly lucky that he was in v. the featherweight second-string. otherwise, he would’ve been trampled by the likes of Garcia, Mares, Gonzalez, or even Donaire, Ponce, Lopez, or Martinez. also, walking Vera into lead rights and thunderous hooks is precisely what won the fight for Jr. last night. although, i could’ve done without Jr’s final-round antics. anyway, you’ve got a Lot to learn, Joe . . . from Me.

Posted March 2, 2014 1:06 pm 


BUSTAJAY

Anonymous

“Lomachenko is a bright star in the making but I think this fight is going to see him complexed by the old vet.”

Not a chance, you haven’t got a clue, Lomachenko will win by KO.

Posted February 26, 2014 6:06 pm

Well looks like the main “clue” Anonymous was the old vet using every trick in the book on the kid. I expected Saildo to give him trouble but not by blowing way up in weight and pulling out all the stops.

Posted March 2, 2014 12:28 pm 


B Red

Bears your not objective with Floyd, hes a great fighter , like Bhop and Vitali. who studied ALI btw. Lom lost against Salido wtf

Posted March 2, 2014 4:23 am 


Bulawayo2

Bred.
Lomochebko is nothing like Mayweather, Ward or Rigondeaux. He’s well worth watching none of the others are.
Lomo is exciting, very exciting, can’t be said about the others.

Posted March 1, 2014 6:53 pm 


BEARS

b-red,,,, c’mon dude. i try to be objective with floyd

Posted March 1, 2014 6:16 pm 


B Red

Bears, what Te Tumbo does with Pac is the same way you attack Floyd. Sredmond does malicious attacks Wlad also. My take is Vitali is a great fighter but not better than Lennox. Floyd is better than Pac. Ruslan Provo can give Garcia a run for his money. Ward whips Triple G. Grabimir Klitscko is painful to watch. Kovalev beats Adonis but not the Grandmaster Bhop

Posted March 1, 2014 5:07 pm 


BEARS

peds are here to stay. in fact within 100 years or less technology will be merged with the human body. namely, nano technology. there will be artificial red blood cells and white blood cells. the red blood cells will be able to carry more oxygen. humans will have endurance like nothing we seetoday. literally be abke to sit at the bottom of a pool holding there breath for 15 minutes. what technology is gonna give us is UNREAL

Posted March 1, 2014 4:02 pm 


BEARS

b red- LMAO! yeah dude i dig it

Posted March 1, 2014 3:50 pm 


BEARS

just noticed joe posted. i think there will be more te tumbo types down the road but this thread serves to elucidate te tumbo’s nut huggery.

te tumbo is a classic esb personality type. i seen sredmond do to the klitschkos what te tumbo attempts to do to pacman. he gets the info on pacman and begins to set judgements against him (make his parameters) but then when u bring up someone he likes or a race he will deffend he quickly shows his double standards and flip flopping. goes on to mutate his positions to “they did not try to get out of testing” well for one they were not doing olympic style testing and they were not going over and beyond the regular testing imposed. again testing should be in the hands if sanctioning bodies and atheletic commisions. whats good enough forfootball and baseball shiuld be good enough for boxing. its not floyds concern as far as im concerned

Posted March 1, 2014 3:50 pm 


B Red

Then Lom is a highly skilled boxer, Like Floyd, Rigo, And Ward. Ya Dig

Posted March 1, 2014 3:44 pm 


BEARS

B Red- yeah, lomachenko is a regular floyd mayweather jr

lol

Posted March 1, 2014 3:35 pm 


B Red

I looking Forward to see Lomanchenko fight, I never seen him fight before. Is he a good tecnical fighter with speed,high boxing Iq and defence

Posted March 1, 2014 3:32 pm 


Ray Ray

Bears-u should get hold of kostyas auto biography? It’s a good read. Crazy s–t the Russians made kids do. e.g like punish the whole group 4 1 kid being a d–k. Running like 5 miles with no shoes in a Russian winter @ the age of 5. F that….

Posted March 1, 2014 3:24 pm 


BEARS

wlad klitschko passed cassius clay up in the record books and might pass joe louis. i would probably favor prime peak vitaly against any boxer in history. does that make him the goat?

east side writer vicek wallace made a case years ago that vitaly is the best heavyweight fighter ever and would have to be favored to defeat cassius clay in a hypothetical matchup. i agree.
we tend to look at heavyweights for the goat because they are the baddest dude in the world as nobody in a lighter weight will defeat them

i think vitaly, wlad, and lennox lewis would be favored to beat any heavy in history. these guys are super heavies, huge men that can box. i think vitaly is the best of the three and wlad and lennox are close to eachother pretty much comes down to who lands first between those two. but vitaly and his granite jaw truly unique and historical. i have not even mentioned his stats and accolades

theres a lot of current bada$$ eastern euros. i also like jirov. jirov had james toney beat until the 11th or 12th round

Posted March 1, 2014 3:23 pm 


face the facts

*forgot to give him a drug test post fight…

Posted March 1, 2014 3:16 pm 


face the facts

te Tumbo: there you are! so what do you have to say for yourself you big hypocrite? you still can’t utter the words that chavez jr. “may” have cheated in his fight where they “forgot” to give him ?? where’s the asterisk? you call out pacquiao for being a cheat yet when mexicans do it, you get tounge tied! whats up with that?

Posted March 1, 2014 3:16 pm 


Ray Ray

Will there b a heavyweight champ under 6’1 again……? Probs not.

Posted March 1, 2014 3:15 pm 


Ray Ray

Kostya opened the door 2 east Europeans……he was a weapon. He even changed the way fighters got treated….in Russia anyways? He was treated like a dog, which is y he left. Such a humble man. Yep the introduction of the Eastern European guys has def changed boxing….specially the heavyweights.

Posted March 1, 2014 3:13 pm 


Anonymous

ray robinson.the best ever. period.

Posted March 1, 2014 3:05 pm 


BEARS

its interesting though because past greats were fighting primarily domestic competition. now we have a true global/world sample. there was an eastern block amateur that totally lit cassius clay up i forgot his name but its easy to find info on. when the iron current fell and we started seeing bada$$ eastern euro fighters we seen what we were missing out on. kinda lime baseball before blacks were allowed to play is boxing before white eastern euros were allowed to play. lol

Posted March 1, 2014 3:04 pm 


Ray Ray

Robinson is the man in my opinion…..u watch footage of him and u think straight away that he would still dominate 2day? He’s awesome. Klitchko brothers r awesome, don’t get the credit they deserve. Not there fault the heavy devision isn’t thought 2 b the strongest ATM. U can only clean out what’s put in front of u? And both have cleaned house 4 like a decade, maybe more.

Posted March 1, 2014 2:57 pm 


BEARS

greatest ever is tough and cassius clay sure makes a case for it. i actually rate vitaly klitschko very high. he has a lot of stats and records people dont know about even took mike tysons guiness book of world records record. i could tell u alot about vitaly. i think marciano does not get enough credit. i have seen people make a good case to put joe louis above cassius clay. tell u the truth i could only talk about heavies when it comes to the goat talk. (greatest of all time) see i love heavyweights and stoppages and awesome offenses in boxing. i love the guys that provide FIREWORKS in the ring like the klitschkos, kovalev adonis, 3g, canelo, mathyse, garcia, pacman and even the rugged brawlers like provodnikov, alvaredo, rios, kirkland, EL PERRO angulo.

i have not seen enough robinson tape. or duran or hearns to really tell you who the goat might be in my opinion. the game has actually changed a lot through the years. and i love watching the classics

Posted March 1, 2014 2:51 pm 


Ray Ray

@bears? Yeah u can usually tell when some1 has been hacked? My head space is more in2 the Europe conversation.

Posted March 1, 2014 2:47 pm 


BEARS

ray ray- that was not me. some of my fav fighters past and present are black dudes. im a big fan of adonis and his ko’s. u see posts like that, out if character they are oeople masquerading as me or other posters

Posted March 1, 2014 2:41 pm 


BEARS

your over here championing floyds latest excuse while floyd fights another foregone conclusion in maidana like he did ortiz and guerrer and pac is fighting bradley A SECOND TIME and he beat him once already to boot! not only is pax opponents running circles around floyds but he is beating them. while your biatching about testing and claiming its pax cross to bare. belittling and berating pac and his skill yet fighting for every excuse for floyd not to face the belittled and beleaguered and berated pacman. pac is the one providing us with boxing entertainment and floyd is providing us with horrorshows. foregone conclusions. im really tired of your pointless nuthugging te tumbo. and u call yourself a boxing fan. your a fan of whatever comes outta floyds a$$. you ride with whatever that is. currently its testing and pax cross to bare. your a tool spouting subjective personal bias. thank god boxing is not filled with mayweather types we would never have a fight worth watching and we would all be watching mma. lol

Posted March 1, 2014 2:39 pm 


Ray Ray

Ha ha ha bears….good 4 u. Unfortunate 4 u the black fighters r here 2 stay???? It can’t b helped? It’s just genetics? Like there will never b a white man 2 win the 100m sprint @ the Olympics? Or a black man the 100 freestyle….Genetics. Who in ur opinion r the greatest ever? Robinson? Ali? Sugar ray?

Posted March 1, 2014 2:37 pm 


Joseph Herron

srminimo: “Joseph Herron- sorry, but you lost this one when you resorted to name calling and chest pumping, at least in my book. A true professional can engage the audience, but never get personal.”

I am a true professional when it comes to covering the sport of boxing…I never let my personal opinion get in the way of conducting an interview or doing a fight write up. Because the fight game is subjective, calling the action is a matter of opinion to a certain extent, but I try to stay as objective as possible when trying to cover a very subjective art form like prizefighting.

But when someone like Tumbo, who is not on my level and really doesn’t have a clue as to what I’ve been through in this industry, attacks my integrity as a person and professional, don’t expect me to just sit back and take it in the shorts.

I’m going to fire back…this is a comment board and not an article that I’m publishing. It’s not a published mail bag, so I’m going to continue to defend myself when someone continuously attacks me in a personal way.

I apologize if I offended anyone who read some of my previous posts which were directed to Tumbo.

Posted March 1, 2014 2:34 pm 


Ray Ray

Back 2 blowjobs/ Europe/ mistress…..my wife is from the chechrepublic, mayb I should have married her sister/ if she accepts mistresses….

Posted March 1, 2014 2:27 pm 


Ray Ray

Floyd will fight Sergio next? Heard it here 1st….

Posted March 1, 2014 2:24 pm 


BEARS

i care a lot more about makingthe best fights than i do about testing. u act like pac goes untested. if u dont like standards, rules, and regulations take it up with sanctioning bodies and state atheletic commisions. quit acting like its one mans cross to bare.

i would rather see floyd fight pac, paul williams , not fake retire when his division got red hot, fight serg martinez, fight lara, fight 3g, fight garcia, fight bradley, than biatch about testing, than fabricate his next excuse, than be a non warrior. NEXT!

Posted March 1, 2014 2:21 pm 


Ray Ray

Wards a young Hopkins type, with a bit more offensive out put…..he’d bash GGG no doubt about it….Adonis and Kovalev would b a real test 4 him…..bears-where in Europe r these mistresses accepted? European girls r easy, never had a dull night with 1….

Posted March 1, 2014 2:18 pm 


BEARS

u gonna disrespect a dude whi gets laid out and call him napman? lol. man u could call joe frazier and mike tyson nap men too! and lennox. you could call bradley faceplant man (compliments of provodnikov) and foreman faceplant man (compliments of ron lyle)
but i prefer to default to the fact that pacman despite his ko loss is actually still considered both BETTER AND GREATER than jmm. so i mean the story really stops there

Posted March 1, 2014 2:15 pm 


BEARS

where are the super six fighters now? really all that eas was kessler and froch. although i like kessler , not all that. i like froch too he’s a rugged scrapper and was the only one making a ward bout interesting and even kanding the best punch if the fight. acting like kessler and froch and whatever else out if the super six makes ward the end all be all is air headed. it does not. personally i think wards resume needs help. he has 3g, kovalev, and adonis to fight. dawson was a huge boost but the value if dawsons scalp seems suspect now with the boiling down and getting beat up in camp leading up to the ward bout sounds like dawson disintegration preceeded ward. but overall NO IM NOT awestruck by wards resume

Posted March 1, 2014 2:11 pm 


Ray Ray

Bears-so when r we moving 2 Europe? Ha ha ha

Posted March 1, 2014 2:09 pm 


te tumbo

Ward has a “weak” ring-resume? talk about weak “parameters”. Ward emerged from the Super-Six tournament UNDEFEATED and has been mopping-up at 168lbs+ ever since. what 168lbr would You favor v. Ward?

Posted March 1, 2014 2:03 pm 


te tumbo

BEARS, you sound like one boring old woman . . .

Posted March 1, 2014 1:59 pm 


te tumbo

“create parameters in which he maligns pac” Wtf are You now babbling about? what you call “parameters” are actual FactS. what i enjoy is exposing the rabid and catty responses by “Napman’s” fanboys every time the facts are presented to them. instead you get a hissy-pissy fit without addressing any of the facts or glaring red-flags. Btw, there’s no comparison between Ward and Pacquiao* who has consistently rejected, avoided, or negotiated his way out of stricter testing when it comes to facing his primary rivals. It’s-A-FACT not a “parameter” (lol). they’re resorting to euphemisms now . . . (lol).

Posted March 1, 2014 1:59 pm 


BEARS

in europe its quite common to have mistresses. its accepted. by even the spouse. this guy acts like clinton was the first pres to do this sort of thing. or that clintons sexrelations have anything to do with being pres. again dense

Posted March 1, 2014 1:58 pm 


te tumbo

“blowjobs become a form of currency” is the platform i’d run on. the campaign-trail alone would be worth it and I’d be at Every fight-card. how could I realistically lose? maybe i’m missing something, but i don’t detect any majority opposition to this new monetary policy. Clinton was just plain Selfish(?!).

Posted March 1, 2014 1:53 pm 


BEARS

te tumbo – is trying his best to create parameters in which he maligns pac. he does not have general parameters in this discussion. he examines pax case and molds and sculpts around it. its cool to see joe put a pure nut hugger in his place.

calling ward the heir apparent? does that mean heir to floyd? hardly. the only possible comparrisson will be the dodging of the best fights thereby a much weaker resume than could have been. lets see ward fight 3g, kovalev, and adonis. wait, didnt ward cower when adonis said he would fight him and did not say a word. thats te tumbos “heir apparent”.

personally im a boxing fan and the aforementioned traits and characteristics are that if a non warrior. if your a boxer thats bad. if your fan i this sort of thing u do a disservice to boxing.

Posted March 1, 2014 1:51 pm 


Ray Ray

Anyways???? There’s people on here that arnt from the states & don’t care about politics in any country? Vote 4 billy blo-w.,job?

Posted March 1, 2014 1:45 pm 


BEARS

clinton did not create jobs. thats crazy that people think presidents create jobs. pretty dense. the tech sector created jobs. the rise of microsoft, silicon valley, dot coms, and tech in general of the 90s.

bill clinton signed as president nafda for crying out loud and really began fast tracking are jobs to both canada and mexico. a case plant by my house went to canada and a maytag plant went to china.

both these parties need to go. they both come together to represent bankster agenda there owned by big banking first and foremost. politicians admit it in dc. they were even bailed out TWICE by dem and republican presidents and dem and republicans both in contgress and senate.

whether it comes to bringing in the central banking cartel the fed reserve, globalization and free trade (banker 1% consolidation of ownership and power), bailing banks out multiple times, tax cuts to the wealthy destroying are nations surplus (bush), patenting life (outragous) and protecting monsanto, no decent education plan, voting against even labeling gmo’s and where are food comes from. they always do the really bad stuff in BI PARTISAN FASHION. they have to go

Posted March 1, 2014 1:39 pm 


proud black man

srminimo “sorry, but you lost this one when you resorted to name calling” wow what a hypocrite! we all saw the vile disgusting racist stuff he said to someone here the other day.

Posted March 1, 2014 1:24 pm 


srminimo

Joseph Herron- sorry, but you lost this one when you resorted to name calling and chest pumping, at least in my book. A true professional can engage the audience, but never get personal.

Posted March 1, 2014 11:22 am 


Hidalg0

“name the other fighter who has inexplicably rejected an anti-doping challenge”

Andre Ward, prior to his recent fight against Edwin Rodriguez?

Posted March 1, 2014 11:16 am 


Oh I say, look at that!

“Sticking up for any political party due to blind loyalty is insanity…partisan politics is cancer to the US.”

Well said, Joe. but that also applies to almost all democratic countries.

Posted March 1, 2014 6:01 am 


Joseph Herron

D,

Sticking up for any political party due to blind loyalty is insanity…partisan politics is cancer to the US.

Posted March 1, 2014 3:28 am 


D

“Well that makes it alright, Tumbo. You sound like a Democrat sticking up for Bill Clinton back in 92.”

Standing up for Bill Clinton in 92? Clinton became a 2-term presendent who created 24 million jobs and balanced the budget you IDIOT. What’s more important? Keeping us out of stupid muti-trillon dollar wars or getting blown while nobody’s watching?

Posted March 1, 2014 2:32 am 


Squared-Circle Real Talk (The Lion King of Beat Street)

Salido has no legitimate chance of winning this fight — even if he could make weight. Real talk.

Posted March 1, 2014 2:27 am 


te tumbo

“What do you have to say about those sshannnanigens?” Ward is #1 P4P heir-apparent . . . and he’s not even “Mexican” . . . NEXT?

Posted February 28, 2014 9:38 pm 


ESB poster

What’s with all the brown nosing on this site. I don’t mean to diss you, but someone needs some tissue.

Posted February 28, 2014 9:06 pm 


face the facts

The Tumbo: Andre.ward ….that was easy…your turn..what about Chavez Jr?? What do you have to say to the FACT he didn’t give a post fight drug test because the people in charge FORGOT too give him one? What do you have to say about those sshannnanigens? at least half an asterisk? Or maybe an X , to signify almost an asterisk ????

Posted February 28, 2014 8:30 pm 


te tumbo

cheating is cheating. whether it be Mosley for admitting he juiced v. DLH or Trinidud Sr. and Capetillo for apparently being caught loading their fighter’s handwraps but as B-Hops asserted: “it’s only cheating if you get caught”. Pacquiao*** is blatantly and transparently avoiding the possibility of ever being caught. otherwise, name the other fighter who has inexplicably rejected an anti-doping challenge? . . . ticK-tocK, tick-tock, tick-tock, tick-tock . . .

Posted February 28, 2014 7:58 pm 


te tumbo

Oh-Ho?! so it’s the multiposting FATman who is once again up to his offline whisper-group antics like the FAT little mean girl he is (lol). poor Herron is actually mistaking you(?!?) for a force in the sport? (lol) that is hilarious. aren’t you dead Yet?!? Btw, Viva Marquez! . . . just because he’s Mexican not an ATG fighter you catty old woman.

Posted February 28, 2014 7:54 pm 


face the facts

Joseph herron: i told you bro…he’s going to find a way to spin this….uhhh it’s ok because they were honest cheaters..ahahahahaah now thats funny!

hey te tumbo, chavez jr didnt have to give a post fight test in texas before..what say you about that?? does he get at least one asterisk for being suspect?? ahahahaha

Posted February 28, 2014 7:50 pm 


te tumbo

“It’s my perception of how you view yourself”(?). Wtf does ThaT mean? anyway, keep grasping for board support of your false bravado (how many times are you gonna fish with that “everyone” reference?). i fight my own sparring matches and diligently avoid dragging innocent bystanders into them. side-busting and dry-snitching is a standard characteristic of shills like yourself. i for one think it’s hilarious how you automatically assume the intellectual high-ground on the topic of boxing based on WhaT? your ESB blogs? (lol) you’re a funny guy . . . posing as a “journalist”.

Posted February 28, 2014 7:49 pm 


face the facts

te tumbo: you mad bro?? the FACT remains your panties get all bunched up when it comes to pacquiao yet when it comes to ANY cheater who happens to be mexican,you say “viva la raza”! like in american me open your eyes ese…your views are slanted!

Posted February 28, 2014 7:40 pm 


Joseph Herron

te tumbo: “because the very reason you can cite their violations is because they DIDN’T inexplicably reject scrutiny of their weight, blood and urine, or handwraps. Face the Fact that you’re an incoherent imbecile.”

Well that makes it alright, Tumbo. You sound like a Democrat sticking up for Bill Clinton back in 92. Complete double standard…”it’s alright that he cheated and lied, because he’s honest about it!!”

LOL…total BS and nuthuggery at its finest!!

Posted February 28, 2014 7:38 pm 


te tumbo

” how come you don’t put asterisk next to their names???” because the very reason you can cite their violations is because they DIDN’T inexplicably reject scrutiny of their weight, blood and urine, or handwraps. Face the Fact that you’re an incoherent imbecile.

Posted February 28, 2014 7:27 pm 


face the facts

Te tumbo: and you could care less that margarito almost came in the ring with gloves loaded? or how about salido being roided up against guerrero? or morales against garcia? do u care whether or not chavez takes a post fight drug test?? i thought you were a fan that cared about the INTEGRITY of the sport!

Posted February 28, 2014 6:08 pm 


Joseph Herron

te tumbo: “how can my ego avoid becoming inflated with references like “authority”? “legend”? “king of this domain”? all adjectives selected by YOU (Not Me), which only exposes your envy and insecurities. FYI, there is no competition here. you’re a shill and I’m a true fight-fan.”

LOL…your posts are absolutely ridiculous, brother. It’s my perception of how you view yourself…and it’s an obvious one. Because you said it, you’re a fan.

And there’s nothing wrong with that…God bless you, brother. I wish the sport had more fans like you.

But, the fact that you’re trying to verbally spar with me about the sweet science is truly laughable…with all due respect, you’re nowhere near my league. So please stop embarrassing yourself, brother.

Everyone who visits these comment boards knows this but you…”a legend in your own mind”…indeed!! LOL

Posted February 28, 2014 6:01 pm 


Boxtradamus

“Who’s your date? Rosie Palm?”-Nope. MY BEAUTIFUL fiance’. Man I must admit I out DID MYSELF. WOW.

Posted February 28, 2014 5:13 pm 


The Golden Triangle

I think Vera will come with similar fight plan as before, but Chavez Jr. will come with a DIFFERENT fight plan and he will beat Vera tomorrow via a KO.

Posted February 28, 2014 4:50 pm 


The Golden Triangle

Salido will get beaten up so badly tomorrow, my friends. Salido has the professional experience, but LomachenchKO has MORE amateur experience and the SUPERB SKILLS.

LomachenchKO by a KO.

Posted February 28, 2014 4:48 pm 


The Golden Triangle

Lomachenchko has the BEST amateur records ever: 396-1.
Wow, Wow, Wow!

Golovkin(GGG) has an excellent amateur records as well:
342-2. Wow, Wow, Wow!

Top boxers today are from all corners of the world, not just from the US soil anymore.

Posted February 28, 2014 4:45 pm 


te tumbo

“He defended [Margarito] tooth and nail before and got SLAMMED by everybody” and I could care less . . . Get It?

Posted February 28, 2014 4:43 pm 


te tumbo

Btw, i’ve always maintained that Team PUNKuiao;s*** fear of losing to Mayweather and severely compromising Pacquiao’s*** marketability as the primary reason for their skulking in the welter division. otherwise, you will never find a single post where I accuse Pacquiao*** of anything other than ducking and avoiding, which doesn’t mitigate his suspect and inexplicable refusal to MUTUALLY-Applied testing v. Mayweather, Marquez, and now Bradley.

Posted February 28, 2014 4:36 pm 


te tumbo

“Te tumbo…why are you ducking the question?? You keep placing an asterisk for pacquaio because” he remains the ONLY fighter to EVER and inexplicably decline Harmless, Random, and MUTUALLY-Applied testing to face his primary P4P rival and collect a $25–$50 million payday. shills like Herron ignore the red-flags and instead smother it with smoke, mirrors, and a load of promotional hype and celebrity worship. after all, shills care a lot more about promotional favor than the integrity of the sport. that’s where a true fight-fan like me comes in. i collect freebies for being myself. Herron collects them for being and saying whatever the powers-that-be prescribe. talk about sad and pathetic . . . NEXT?

Posted February 28, 2014 4:32 pm 


te tumbo

how can my ego avoid becoming inflated with references like “authority”? “legend”? “king of this domain”? all adjectives selected by YOU (Not Me), which only exposes your envy and insecurities. FYI, there is no competition here. you’re a shill and I’m a true fight-fan. I can speak freely about the sport and its fighters because i’m not beholden to ANY promotional interest of any kind. i’ve got no problem or say with how another person makes a living but please stop trying to elevate yourself above the average (and extraordinary) fight-fan who really does know a Lot more about the sport than you.after all, i have no hidden agenda like many shills trying to make a name for themselves at the expense (not benefit) of my favorite sport.

Posted February 28, 2014 4:26 pm 


Joseph Herron

Thanks, brother…I just posted the weigh in results with video interviews with Chavez and Salido…enjoy!!

Posted February 28, 2014 4:01 pm 


face the facts

Joseph Herron: Your abseloutely right. He defended margacheato tooth and nail before and got SLAMMED by everybody. Let’s see what kind of spin he puts on this…BTW..great video interview..keep up the good work

Posted February 28, 2014 3:54 pm 


Joseph Herron

It looks like Salido might lose the belt on the scales!!

He just weighed in at a whopping 128!!

Vasyl weighed in at 125 1/4

Updates from San Antonio!!

Posted February 28, 2014 3:28 pm 


Joseph Herron

face the facts: “Te tumbo…why are you ducking the question?? You keep placing an asterisk for pacquaio because you “think” he’s a cheat. what about salido?? you know he’s been busted before right?”

Because he’s slanted, brother. You can’t claim to be an authority and possess an angle or favorite. It hinders your scope…you become incapable of seeing the larger picture.

When you don’t have a dog in the hunt, things become pretty clear.

Posted February 28, 2014 3:08 pm 


Joseph Herron

’76 Olympic Team: “hahaha Joseph. It wasn’t your height or skin that surprised me…but I thought you’d have a gray flat-top w/ some facial wrinkles sprinkled in! Thanks for the article.”

Unfortunately, I have a lot more gray than what shows up on this video.

An as far as wrinkles, I have dove soap and staying out of the sun to thank for that…I’ve used it my entire life.

I have features on Bryan Vera and Orlando Salido coming shortly…thanks for reading, brother!!

Posted February 28, 2014 3:04 pm 


face the facts

Te tumbo…why are you ducking the question?? You keep placing an asterisk for pacquaio because you “think” he’s a cheat. what about salido?? you know he’s been busted before right?

Posted February 28, 2014 2:32 pm 


Joseph Herron

LOL…Tumbo…a legend in his own mind.

Dude, you truly believe that you’re king of this domain, don’t you…LOL

Everyone here knows what the truth is, brother. It’s pretty sad actually.

From what I’ve been reading, the only person complimenting you or touting your brand is you.

How does that feel? LOL

Posted February 28, 2014 2:30 pm 


Hidalg0

I’d do a spelling bee with you te tumbo, but you know more Spanish words than I do. :)

Posted February 28, 2014 1:01 pm 


Hidalg0

“I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him.” Mark Twain

Posted February 28, 2014 12:54 pm 


’76 Olympic Team

Also, I thank the young man who called Salido a ‘truth machine’. I’m not exactly a young chicken any more, and I truly enjoy a phrase which I’ve never heard before.

Posted February 28, 2014 12:40 pm 


’76 Olympic Team

hahaha Joseph. It wasn’t your height or skin that surprised me…but I thought you’d have a gray flat-top w/ some facial wrinkles sprinkled in! Thanks for the article.

Posted February 28, 2014 12:37 pm 


te tumbo

“Lomachenko has not beat jack yet and already the white boys on this site are putting him as a pound for pound king . . .” actually, Herron isn’t a white boy. he just imagines that his nasally-voice will add a foot to his height and fool others into believing he is. otherwise, in person, there’s no avoiding that cactus plastered on his forehead.

Posted February 28, 2014 12:31 pm 


te tumbo

i guess that means you’re Punking-Out on my spelling challenge? accordingly, You don’t call Me. I’ll call you, but why in the f’k would I call You? who are You? I know much more prominent figures in the sport if talking-head celebrity was my interest instead of the sport of Boxing and I wouldn’t need you to open the door for me. Get It? besides, you can’t even rise above embarrassing yourself on these boxing threads. what makes you think it would be any different in person and before a mic? ask “Bears” if he’ll be your tool (as if anybody was interested). otherwise, i’m already fully-engaged with my chosen profession and don’t have the time or desire to help you out with yours. don’t take it too personal. i’m sure you’ve had plenty of doors slammed in your face before.

Posted February 28, 2014 12:29 pm 


Joseph Herron

Wow…translation for the typically long winded Tumbo response: “Please don’t embarrass me on the air, Joseph…I can’t think on my feet and require at least five minutes to think of a suitable response to anything.”

It’s alright, Tumbo…everyone knows. The only person on this forum who is still in denial and believes that you actually know something about boxing is you.

Posted February 28, 2014 11:52 am 


te tumbo

“Bears” is another b*tch desperately vying for my attention and just like any desperate b*tch, the more i ignore him, the more he wants my attention.

Posted February 28, 2014 11:13 am 


te tumbo

“Tumbo, you can’t match my boxing prowess…I will challenge you anytime on air…let’s do it this Sunday” (lol). typical shill. always looking to turn others into tools for their own self-promotion. another ESB “writer” tried that with me and got farther than you. consequently, he’s earned my undying enmity. did it ever occur to you that not everybody craves celebrity? of course not. “la hyena siempre piensa que los demas sufren de la misma condicion”. anyway, there wouldn’t be an ESB poster not tuning into that edition of your show, which you would promote accordingly but as DLH once said, “I don’t fight for free”. similarly, i don’t make appearances for free either, i.e., what’s the pay? otherwise, I’m owning you just fine on these boxing threads, which doesn’t feel like pretending boxing is my favorite sport. besides, what you really need help with is your writing skills not self-promotion, e.g., unless you planned on jumping into a ring with me, your “boxing prowess” is of no use in front of a microphone. perhaps boxing acumen is the noun you were grasping for(?). or insight(?). or simply knowledge(?). try and refrain from sounding like the catachresis-prone “Vito”. he’s another “writer” who constantly uses words out of context. in fact, I challenge you to a spelling bee! if the feature of your next show is “Tumbo exposes illiterate boxing ‘writers’ “, I may consider an appearance. you’re NOT Pacquiao*** and I’m not Marquez: on My terms or nothing at all . . . “Step up, Punk”.

Posted February 28, 2014 11:11 am 


Anonymous

Lomachenko has not beat jack yet and already the white boys on this site are putting him as a pound for pound king another white hope for white america he would be killed by gary russell jr a and may lose tommorrow fight you white boys stick to hockey please spare us

Posted February 28, 2014 10:05 am 


obicoke

Salido is a hardened verteran who has got better with age. However, he may be tough and a better fighter now than in his earlier years but Lomachenko is on another planet. Most of the boxing world currently have Mayweather as the best P4P fighter but after maybe 5 or 6 fights I can see Lomachenko being placed in the same poll. He is a very smart and clever fighter. He will no doubt become a HOF for his amateur career and I personally believe he will for his proffesional also.

Posted February 28, 2014 9:29 am 


Anonymous

gary russell jr would be living crap out of either one of these bums you white boys stick to hockey you do not know boxing please you sound ignorant

Posted February 28, 2014 9:14 am 


Hidalg0

“Just got back from the Supermarket with MY alcoholic beverage for Saturday night!! I am READY!!!”

Who’s your date? Rosie Palm?

Posted February 28, 2014 9:01 am 


Boxtradamus

Red-Double Gold medal WINNER Rigo took MY advice and SO will Loma IF he knows what’s GOOD for him. When you take MY advice you WIN. When you don’t you LOSE.

Posted February 28, 2014 3:15 am 


mookie

Salido will stop loma ll

Posted February 28, 2014 3:14 am 


Hidalg0

“Thank you for the kind words, Hidalg0…why doesn’t anyone ever take me up on my offer…first Tark and now Tumbo?”

I’m only speaking about what I know. Unlike te tumbo or Tark I have had some in-depth conversations with you.

Posted February 28, 2014 2:18 am 


Boxtradamus

Just got back from the Supermarket with MY alcoholic beverage for Saturday night!! I am READY!!!

Posted February 28, 2014 12:48 am 


Joseph Herron

BEARS: “u do pod casts! u have a youtube channel?

My You Tube channel is a new one and we only have two videos that I’ve posted this week…it’s right here on the video…I’m the guy with the AM voice holding the Bob Barker mic…LOL

But I will be uploading interviews with Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. and Vasyl Lomachenko that I just conducted at the final press conference this afternoon.

Also you can catch my web based radio show “The Pugilist KOrner” right here on ESB every Sunday and Tuesday night at 9PM EST live…we also have it on archive on the previous pages.

Please let me know what you think!!

Posted February 28, 2014 12:14 am 


Joseph Herron

Thank you for the kind words, Hidalg0…why doesn’t anyone ever take me up on my offer…first Tark and now Tumbo?

What’s up with that? These guys talk a lot of smack on this comment board…what gives?

LOL

Posted February 28, 2014 12:05 am 


Hidalg0

Meanwhile back at the ranch, the Lone Ranger didn’t know that Tonto had disguised himself as a locked door and immediately shot his knob off.

Posted February 28, 2014 12:00 am 


Hidalg0

“Tumbo, you can’t match my boxing prowess…I will challenge you anytime on air…let’s do it this Sunday”

Te tumbo, you better do your homework now–24 hours a day. Seriously. Any knowledge that Joseph has revealed either on his shows, in his articles or here on these discussion boards–even in aggregate–are only a drop in the bucket of his knowledge of the sport and world of boxing. If you don’t believe me, take him up on his challenge.

Posted February 27, 2014 11:58 pm 


BEARS

well looks like te tumbo biatched out and ran away from a good matchup all while claiming he would put shill/journalist in his place. reminds me of floyd saying he would fight the best, fight pac and martinez. but failing to. if te tumbo is a biatch then his posts get demoted to biatch status. good question though where is all the asterisks when u mention guilty cheats? oh wait its just the hater nut huggery talkin aint it. lol

Posted February 27, 2014 11:23 pm 


face the facts

Te Tumbo: you always seem to call out pacquiao and never fail to place an asterisk next to his name Because you think he’s a cheat…you know salido has actually been caught CHEATING in the past right? wheres his asterisk?

Posted February 27, 2014 11:07 pm 


Red

Boxtradamus

“Take MY advice Loma. Box. Don’t BRAWL”

Like double Olympic golden medal winner Lomachenko is gonna take boxing advice from a pathetic deluded internet moron like Boxtra. What an idiot. Hahahaha.

Posted February 27, 2014 10:47 pm 


Anonymous

Anonymous

“dave.shut the fu#k up.”

Hahahahaha what a childish and stupid response from Anonymous.

Posted February 27, 2014 10:40 pm 


Anonymous

Luke

“I missed Lomo’s fight, so I can’t make an informed judgement.”

There’s plenty of footage of Lomachenko on youtube, including his first pro fight.

Posted February 27, 2014 10:37 pm 


BEARS

is tumbo biatchin OUT!!!???? OHHHHHH

Posted February 27, 2014 10:35 pm 


Dave

“He told me that everyone will be shocked when he makes it look easy on Saturday night.”

Yep, I agree. I think Lomachenko will totally out class and then KO Salido.

Posted February 27, 2014 10:32 pm 


BEARS

OHHHHHHU tumbo got CALLED OUT!!!!! hell yeah!

gonna get SMOKED by joe i gotta start seeing shows and material joe!!! u do pod casts! u have a youtube channel?

Posted February 27, 2014 10:20 pm 


Joseph Herron

Tumbo, you can’t match my boxing prowess…I will challenge you anytime on air…let’s do it this Sunday

Posted February 27, 2014 10:16 pm 


Joseph Herron

If I’m a shill, Tumbo, you’re a nuthugging fanboy!! LOL

Posted February 27, 2014 10:14 pm 


BEARS

reminder: pacman got ko’ed by jmm and is STILL better than jmm and much GREATER. the WORLD agrees with me on that. like lennox is greater than mcall and rahman like wlad is greater than sanders. etc. so please stop talkn out your a$$ son. this ” so and so agrees with me line u use. its pretty anti heterosexual….. no what i mean?????

Posted February 27, 2014 10:07 pm 


Boxtradamus

Luke-SPEED is LESSER than SKILLS and Boxing IQ. Khan and Manny Pacquiao agree with ME on that. Amir and Manny were both SPEEDIER than their opponents but Danny and Juan Manuel used their Boxing IQ’s to time and knock them both out. …..also David Haye had more SPEED than Wlad but his Boxing IQ failed him. Leonard’s SPEED also failed vs Duran because of the same reason……SKILLS and Boxing IQ are the most important factors in Boxing but SPEED comes in 3rd.

Posted February 27, 2014 10:00 pm 


te tumbo

“In all seriousness, I won’t be surprised either way”. now you’re catching on. this is why it’s important for experienced fight-fans like myself to educate shills (ahem) “journalists” about my favorite sport. this ain’t no popularity contest, which is why I can confidently declare Mayweather #1 P4P while shills (ahem) “experts”, and “journalists” continue to cling to Pacquiao’s* nuts as if his were the first pair of nuts they ever pouched in their c*cksuckers. face it: you’re lucky when you get it right and pouty when you neglect to agree with my boxing knowledge.

Posted February 27, 2014 9:59 pm 


Joseph Herron

In all seriousness, I won’t be surprised either way.

Orlando is a guy who gives everyone trouble…I think the Garcia fight would have proven to be very interesting in the later rounds.

I know Mikey’s nose was broken badly in that fight, but Orlando was starting to close the distance and touch Garcia up a little bit.

Who knows how that fight would have ended had it played out for twelve rounds.

I love this fight!!

Posted February 27, 2014 9:04 pm 


Joseph Herron

Tumbo, I saw exactly what you posted…but Vasyl Lomachenko is no ordinary amateur fighter, just like Rigondeaux is no ordinary amateur fighter.

I guarantee you that Henry Tillman didn’t have a 396-1 amateur record with two Gold Medals.

I won’t be surprised if Lomachenko has a little trouble with Salido in spots, but the Ukrainian’s footwork and ring intelligence is far superior to Orlando’s.

The handspeed and footwork will be the difference in Saturday night’s title bout.

Tumbo, this is why you could never be a sports journalist. You’re fanboy nut huggery doesn’t allow you to see the big picture of boxing.

Posted February 27, 2014 8:43 pm 


Joseph Herron

Hidalg0: “I meant to say that I believe Orlando will be superior on the inside.”

If he ever gets there…just did an exclusive with Lomachenko which should be online shortly.

He says that he’s happy to be finally facing a fighter who actually has the brass to come at him. Vasyl stated that he’s tired of having to chase down most fighters and thrives off of more aggressive minded opponents. He told me that everyone will be shocked when he makes it look easy on Saturday night.

Posted February 27, 2014 8:38 pm 


te tumbo

HERRON, you didn’t seem to notice that i posted about having seen Olympic gold-medalists exposed deeper into their pro careers. translation: great amateurs who were cultivated to become acclimated to the pro-style before being allowed to face very tough pro, if not elite, opponents, e.g., Henry Tillman who defeated Mike Tyson in the Olympic trials only to be trampled by Tyson in the pros. how about previous Cuban defectors who do fine until they face a Molina or Angulo who are accustomed to NOT relying on scorecards for their wins. Salido is of the same mold and it’s another welcome snub to have an accomplished amateur favored against him in only his second pro-fight. Salido is not elite but he’ll bring his own bucket of gut- and chin-checks to deal with Lomachenko’s can of paint.

Posted February 27, 2014 8:12 pm 


Tomato Can

Salido has to get in the inside and make it a war, that’s his only chance. This kid will be too fast and too sharp for Salido. Salido has to frustrate and take lomechenko into the late rounds. Anything other than that he’s getting schooled…

Posted February 27, 2014 8:01 pm 


Hidalg0

“I believe Orlando will be superior”

I meant to say that I believe Orlando will be superior on the inside.

Posted February 27, 2014 7:41 pm 


Boxtradamus

“Uh-huh. How come you didn’t figure that out for the Rigondeax/Donaire fight?”-I DID. Thats why I told Rigondeaux to throw Arum’s advice about he and Tim Bradley Fighting in a more entertaining way OUT the window and use his Superior Boxing SKILLS. That way he would WIN instead of getting knocked out and I was CORRECT….Bradley chose to listen to Arum and almost got knocked out in the first half of the Provodnikov Fight but he smartened UP and ultimately took MY advice TOO….its not about brawling its about Boxing SKILLS. Salido can’t touch Lomachenko in that department. Take MY advice Loma. Box. Don’t BRAWL.

Posted February 27, 2014 4:51 pm 


Anonymous

dave.shut the fu#k up.

Posted February 27, 2014 4:25 pm 


CurlyQ.Howard

Lomachenko!

Posted February 27, 2014 4:23 pm 


Keyser

Agreed. If Lomachenko is able to beat the Salido dude, he’d give Russell an almighty whupping!

Posted February 27, 2014 4:11 pm 


Dave

Anonymous

“Russell would knock this fool out.”

Oh no he won’t it will be the other way around. Lomachenko is far better than Russell Jr and if they fight you’ll find that out. This is ANOTHER example of American veiled racism. I’m beginning to wonder if there are any Americans who are not racist.

Posted February 27, 2014 4:04 pm 


Hidalg0

“SKILLS is the most important factor in Boxing”

Uh-huh. How come you didn’t figure that out for the Rigondeax/Donaire fight?

Salido has a nice skillset as well. There are more than one type of skills in boxing. Salido may have the better set on Saturday night.

Posted February 27, 2014 4:02 pm 


Anonymous

russell would knock this fool out

Posted February 27, 2014 3:50 pm 


Boxtradamus

Russell Jr vs Lomachenko next!!

Posted February 27, 2014 3:24 pm 


Boxtradamus

SKILLS is the most important factor in Boxing and SO its Lomachenko in any way, shape, or FORM. And I WILL have MY Victory TOAST ready!!

Posted February 27, 2014 3:23 pm 


Hidalg0

“So criticize all you want, but don’t be surprised if Lomo does a paint job on your boy this Saturday night!!”

I think it will have to happen early, Joseph, and that paint job will have to be definitive. Because a Salido in the late rounds is a fierce unrelenting junk yard dog.

I don’t think Lomachenko has the power that Mikey Garcia does so short of a stoppage, I also don’t believe we’re going to see Salido knocked down numerous times like he was in his fight with Mikey. And you know, it appeared to me that Salido just wasn’t all there the night he fought Mikey. He was getting dropped by shots that he normally withstands–left hook, right uppercut, and a left jab–or maybe that was testament to Mikey’s power. Yet, Orlando kept coming and only Mikey’s broken nose and eventual stoppage of the fight because of that, prevented us from seeing how Orlando would have faired in the later rounds had the fight gone that far.

One of the things that interests me about this matchup is that both fighters like to be the aggressor. Clearly Lomachenko has better technical skills and speed. He’s a combination puncher and really has blazing fast handspeed. He is not reluctant to fight on the inside. He is very quick on his feet and much like Manny Pacquiao uses his feet more than upper body movement to slip his opponents’ punches.

But when watching a number of his amateur fights, I noticed that Lomachenko has a tendency to resort to excessive holding and clinching when facing an opponent who has the power to make him overly cautious. In other words, to me, he demonstrates his inability to cope with a sustained barrage by effectively punching his way out or maneuvering his way out of it.

On the other hand, in his bout with Brazilian Robson, the only loss Vasyl suffered as an amateur, he also showed that he had the ability to amp it up and literally swarm and overwhelm his opponent when he was clearly behind on points and losing the fight.

Thing is, unless Lomachencko stops Salido early, this fight is gonna go a helluva lot longer than three rounds, and if the fight gets to the later rounds, we may see Salido starting to impose his will and experience on Lomachenko. In my opinion, the worst thing Vasyl can do in this fight is attempt to have extended inside exchanges. I believe Orlando will be superior. But if Vasyl fights much like Mikey did against Salido, setting him up, timing him, and persisting as the boxer/puncher rather than the inside brawler, Vasyl will earn his first world championship title.

But don’t count out the possibility of an “upset” just like Salido delivered to Lopez in their first fight. Lopez was the overwhelming favorite to win that fight but Salido put the lights out on that notion in convincing, devastating style.

Posted February 27, 2014 2:44 pm 


Joseph Herron

Tumbo, did you read the more detailed write up that accompanied this video? Check it out if you haven’t.

Because there is a big difference between the path of progress of a professional prospect and an accomplished and decorated amateur fighter like Lomachenko.

Salido does possess as style that is seldom seen in the amateurs, because of the different scoring system…or at least when Lomachenko was competing.

But Lomachenko wasn’t spoon fed opponents like most up and coming prospects, and he didn’t have a lot of time to prepare between styles and opponents during a tournament.

He had to learn how to adapt and overcome a lot more quickly than any professional prospect that I know of.

So criticize all you want, but don’t be surprised if Lomo does a paint job on your boy this Saturday night!!

Posted February 27, 2014 1:04 pm 


te tumbo

if there is truly a “big difference” between the amateurs and the pros, NO, Lomachenko does not deserve this bout. it’s another welcome snub of Salido who is once again presented with the opportunity to expose another promising prospect. Btw, i’ve seen gold medalists exposed a lot deeper in their pro careers including highly-touted Cuban amateurs. i’m anticipating that the intense heat of Salido’s kitchen will melt some of the fancy wrapping of Lomachenko’s carefully-packaged marketing profile.

Posted February 27, 2014 12:43 pm 


Anonymous

another white hope who’s draems will be destroyed by the veteran salido

Posted February 27, 2014 10:14 am 


Joseph Herron

TARK: “His hat size is almost big enough, maybe because he needs a cut, but his arms aren’t long enough.”

LOL…my hat size has to be big…to house this enormous boxing brain, brother…haven’t you figured, that’s why I always get the better of our boxing exchanges? Because I just have more room to store more boxing knowledge? LOL

Posted February 27, 2014 8:38 am 


Boxtradamus

Russell Jr. is the mandatory for the WINNER of Lomachenko-Salido. Looking forward to that one IF Russell
Jr. Doesnt pull a Povetkin and pass on the shot like a SISSY.

Posted February 27, 2014 2:17 am 


Boxtradamus

“This time you’re rolling with the favorite again, just like you did in Broner-Maidana”-Nope. This time I’m rolling with the WINNER again, like I DID in Bute-Pascal and Lara-Trout

Posted February 27, 2014 1:23 am 


Farmboxer

Lomachenko is Ukrainian, not Russian……………

It so appears that Laurence Cole will be the referee, I would never allow him to be a ref in any fight I was in. Cole is awful, one of the worst referees living today, if not the worst. Judges? They appear to be a bunch of idiots…………

Lomachenko can win this fight, but what about all the pressure? He might need a lot of stamina, could go 12 rounds, then it might not, but with Cole as ref you never know.

Posted February 27, 2014 1:12 am 


Hidalg0

Of course I was kidding about Joseph’s height, Tark.

Posted February 27, 2014 1:05 am 


Tomato Can

Keep up the good work Joe…

Posted February 27, 2014 12:37 am 


Tomato Can

I really think as rugged as Salido is, he’s made to order for the seemingly very textbook Lomachenko. Salido’s best shot in this fight is making it an ugly affair. Even though I’m picking Lomachencko, I don’t like the fact that he’s already fighting for a title.

Posted February 27, 2014 12:34 am 


Boxtradamus

“Guess you learned your LESSON to pick the outstanding amateur-turned-pro when you didn’t PICK Rigondeaux over Donaire!”-Nope. I learned that outstanding Boxers take MY advice very WELL…. Lomachenko by ANY way, shape, or form

Posted February 27, 2014 12:18 am 


The1

Lomachenko is very good. One thing with Eastern fighters as a whole though seems to be that once you hurt them, they don’t recover. For instance, they arehard to put down, but its because they are giving everything they have. Once they go down, it doesn’t matter if they get up, they will go down again almost certainly.

Posted February 27, 2014 12:15 am 


The Great Cornholio

Loma is a little Roy Jones, just hope he doesn’t have that glass jaw and Siri Salido isn’t a Glenn Johnson!

Posted February 27, 2014 12:07 am 


TARK

I don’t think so.

His hat size is almost big enough, maybe because he needs a cut, but his arms aren’t long enough.

Posted February 26, 2014 11:38 pm 


Hidalg0

“Only tall white guys say that all the time.”

That’s true. And actually, Joseph is standing in a hole in that video. In reality he’s taller than Wladimir Klitschko.

Posted February 26, 2014 11:16 pm 


Joseph Herron

lol…nice, tark!! lol

Posted February 26, 2014 10:49 pm 


TARK

It’s because you always say, “And you know what’s amazing?”

Only tall white guys say that all the time.

Posted February 26, 2014 10:45 pm 


Joseph Herron

BEARS: “good to see u and match a face to the name joe. good boxing video. i have lomachenko to win and make history”

Thanks, Bears…it usually freaks people out when they meet me for the first time. Because of my voice, most think that I’m whiter and taller…LOL

Posted February 26, 2014 10:35 pm 


BEARS

good to see u and match a face to the name joe. good boxing video. i have lomachenko to win and make history

Posted February 26, 2014 10:21 pm 


TARK

Rigo and Loma???

If it’s 18 months from now Loma. If it’s next Rigo.

Posted February 26, 2014 10:18 pm 


Joseph Herron

Tark,

just out of curiosity, who do you see winning an eventual showdown between Rigo and Lomo?

Posted February 26, 2014 9:58 pm 


TARK

Right… Boxtra picked Donaire to beat Rigondeaux and made all kind of excuses, “I didn’t think Rigo was going to follow my advice, but he did.” … As if you’re a paid boxing consultant or something.

This time you’re rolling with the favorite again, just like you did in Broner-Maidana.

Posted February 26, 2014 9:53 pm 


Hidalg0

““Lomachenko will WIN and I will take a Victory TOAST after the Fight!!””

LMAO @ Boxtradamus! Guess you learned your LESSON to pick the outstanding amateur-turned-pro when you didn’t PICK Rigondeaux over Donaire!

LMAO! It’s ok Boxy, we understand why you want to play it safe now.

Posted February 26, 2014 8:09 pm 


Xavier

Yeah, I’m picking Lomachenko to win as well, but Salido is a very tough test so early on in Loma’s career. He must be supremely confident.

Posted February 26, 2014 8:00 pm 


WHAT!?!

Lomanchenko for me but not before some scary moments. Salido is tough and a massive test for a 2nd fight pro.

Posted February 26, 2014 7:27 pm 


Joseph Herron

LOL…thanks, Luke.

If I were in Vegas, that would have already been captured by my videographer!!

Posted February 26, 2014 7:06 pm 


1200 Techs

i know its way to early right now, especially with a tough matchup like salido..but i hope that eventually, rigo and lomachenko will be on a collision course…battle of the Gold

Posted February 26, 2014 6:58 pm 


Anonymous

Lomachenko is gonna beat the hell out of Salido.

Lomachenko’s amateur career 396 -1 … and the guy who beat him, Lomachenko avenged that defeat twice! Lomachenko is a beast with super skills, he’ll hammer Salido.

Good luck to Salido trying to get the the 12th round. I doubt he’ll get there, but good luck to him :)

Lomachenko by TKO.

Posted February 26, 2014 6:54 pm 


1200 techs

what lomachenko is doing is unheard off….if he can beat a truth machine like salido in his second pro fight (i think he will), the sky is the limit!

Posted February 26, 2014 6:51 pm 


Hidalg0

“I will also be posting various interviews over the next few days with Ronnie Shields, Bryan Vera, Chavez Jr., and Vasyl Lomchenko. ”

You just answered your own question, Joseph. I was going to ask you to do a video interview of Vera and Chavez Jr. I’m especially interested in hearing what Julio has to say.

Posted February 26, 2014 6:48 pm 


Hidalg0

“Lomachenko will WIN and I will take a Victory TOAST after the Fight!!”

You and a bunch of other people.

Posted February 26, 2014 6:46 pm 


BUSTAJAY

Anonymous

“Lomachenko is a bright star in the making but I think this fight is going to see him complexed by the old vet.”

Not a chance, you haven’t got a clue, Lomachenko will win by KO.

Posted February 26, 2014 6:06 pm

I hope you are right and I am WRONG

Posted February 26, 2014 6:23 pm 


Boxtradamus

Nope. Lomachenko will get stopped by Rigondeaux.

Posted February 26, 2014 6:15 pm 


Anonymous

Lomachenko is probably the only fighter who could beat Rigondeaux.

Posted February 26, 2014 6:07 pm 


Anonymous

“Lomachenko is a bright star in the making but I think this fight is going to see him complexed by the old vet.”

Not a chance, you haven’t got a clue, Lomachenko will win by KO.

Posted February 26, 2014 6:06 pm 


Joseph Herron

Thanks, Bustajay!!

I really enjoy doing these sorts of videos, especially with a really great guy like the humble and classy Rick Morones Jr.

I will be putting out three more analysis videos next week for the Canelo/Angulo, Molina/Charlo, and Mayweather/Maidana bouts.

I will also be posting various interviews over the next few days with Ronnie Shields, Bryan Vera, Chavez Jr., and Vasyl Lomchenko.

I’ll also be posting a post fight synopsis from the Alamodome.

Can’t wait!!

Don’t forget to subscribe!!

Posted February 26, 2014 5:54 pm 


BUSTAJAY

Great video work Joseph. This makes all other post just plain dull.

I am going to have to pick the old work horse for this fight. Salido is one tough and tested dude. Lomachenko is a bright star in the making but I think this fight is going to see him complexed by the old vet.

Posted February 26, 2014 5:48 pm 


Anonymous

Boxtradamus shut the fook up you moronic prick

Posted February 26, 2014 5:30 pm 


eric

Lomo is going to be an exciting addition to boxing, or is he ?.

This fight, can’t get here soon enuf.

Posted February 26, 2014 5:28 pm 


Kid Hammer

Vasyl vs Orlando and Burns vs Crawford fights on saturday

Looking forward to these two.

Posted February 26, 2014 5:13 pm 


PEEJ

Technically this dude has more than 1 professional fight. Once you get paid to fight you are a professional. But still pretty good to be going for a title this early. See if he can pull it out and how.

Posted February 26, 2014 5:06 pm 


Deepwaterz1234

Showcase breakout fight for vl by spectacular knockout.

Posted February 26, 2014 4:59 pm 


PUNCHKEY

Hell yea !!!!!!!!!!!
Can’t wait too bad I can’t fast forward to Saturday :(

Posted February 26, 2014 4:39 pm 


Joseph Herron

This is a great match-up!! Can’t wait for this one!!

Posted February 26, 2014 4:31 pm 


maracho

Yes, very interesting matchup indeed

Posted February 26, 2014 4:23 pm 


Boxtradamus

Lomachenko will WIN and I will take a Victory TOAST after the Fight!!

Posted February 26, 2014 4:16 pm 


no clue

I personally think they are rushing Lomachenko and Salido isn’t the guy to face in the second pro fight…. I’m rooting for LOma but have a sneaky feeling old snake Salido can find that big shot sooner or later.. hopefully, he doesn’t

Posted February 26, 2014 4:12 pm 



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