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I don’t get how anybody can believe that Chavez Jr is standing after the 4th round, I just don’t get it.

Golovkin is the man.

Posted March 6, 2014 6:45 am 


Bulawayo2

EZ E,
Thanks. ” Jesus Ward ” did he pick that himself or did his fans choose it?

Posted March 6, 2014 2:21 am 


EZ E

TARK It anit about who DESERVES top billing, it’s about who’ll actually GET IT & I believe Arum will go with the Chavez ‘mystique’ for the promo.

Posted March 5, 2014 11:55 pm 


EZ E

TARK as for “blowing smoke up your cheeks” read further down, I said that I doubted that his challenge was a serious one and doubted that his Team would bite. Since you’re the one jumping on my comment then maybe it’s up YOUR cheeks that the smoke has penetrated. I’m trying to debate on a civil level but if you want to get ‘crazy’ then so be it.

Posted March 5, 2014 11:47 pm 


EZ E

BULWAYO2
Ward’s S.O.G. is: Son Of God

Posted March 5, 2014 11:38 pm 


EZ E

TARK I recognize your points. I’m not saying nor have I even hinted that Chavez would win nor has a better resume than GGG nor saying that Junior has looked more impressive neither… and so on. I’m not that naive. GGG is not Vera, Rubio, Zbik, Manfredo. I guess you’re missing my point. To the average/casual fan there’s magic in the Chavez name for obvious reasons. Arum will give TOP billing to Chavez Jr. It surely won’t be Golovkin vs Chavez, it will be Chavez vs Golovkin, or 24/7 Chavez vs Golovkin. We’ll just have to wait until it gets finalized, IF in fact it does. Look at the title of this article. Who’s name got mentioned first?? That’s how I expect it to be for the promotional fight hype, regardless of the outcome.

Posted March 5, 2014 11:18 pm 


Bulawayo2

Anonymous,
Dancing , singing and running around fast, is that the extent of African achievment since the World began?
Have done an extensive search for African inventions and so far I’ve only come up with a couple, the main one being the invention of peanut butter!
If it weren’t for the whiteman you would still be running around barefoot chucking spears at each other.
If you can’t be sensible at least be realistic.

Posted March 5, 2014 8:43 pm 


Bulawayo2

So does anyone know what Sog or Soggy means when referring to Ward?

Posted March 5, 2014 8:38 pm 


TARK

EZ E.., “Chavez jr will probably get TOP billing”

No he won’t… JCC Jr already lost 11 rounds of a title challenge to a guy he called “an old man.” It will be Golovkin vs Chavez or it won’t be fought..

Most likely not fought because Jr is blowing smoke up your cheeks.

Golovkin has 10 title fights and is recognized as the world’s best middleweight by most top trainers… If the fight happens Chavez will take a brutal beating and be Mr. Pizza Face for a few weeks—i.e. if his chin and liver hold up that long—because GGG doesn’t clinch and doesn’t stop throwing. He defends one HELL of a lot better than Jr.

Posted March 5, 2014 5:46 pm 


Anonymous

EZ E
YOU ARE A BORING WHITE MAN YOU CAN’T DANCE SING
OR PLAY SPORTS YOU WOMAN WANTS A BLACK MAN

Posted March 5, 2014 2:43 pm 


Anonymous

Money in fights goes to the fighter that generates the numbers. Quit simple

Posted March 5, 2014 2:15 pm 


EZ E

ANONYMOUS hmmm.. Give up you racist slime. I suggest you ask one of your countless step daddies about the love she has for long joints. What’s her name? Maybe I was your step daddy for ONE drunken night, who knows, “son”. End of subjest.

Posted March 5, 2014 1:48 pm 


Ike

People keep talking about GGG’s resume, but what fights has he turned down? None. After Golovkin destroyed Macklin, Sergio Martinez’s promoter said that he would keep Martinez away from GGG as long as possible. Geale and Murray both turned down a fight. Quillin fights for Showtime. Sturm doesn’t want to fight him. The only fight GGG’s people have turned down is Andre Ward and I think that’s a smart move. Golovkin has possible big money fights with Chavez Jr., Kirkland, and Martinez (after the Cotto fight). Yes, he has fought a lot of bums, but it’s so that he can stay busy and fight 4 times a year instead of only twice. Enough with the hate already. The guy is a bone smasher, a soul snatcher.

Posted March 5, 2014 1:47 pm 


EZ E

TARK Well, I still think that Chavez jr would get top billing over GGG, regardless of who may have accomplished more. Like I said in a previous comment, GGG is not a large Middleweight. maybe that’s what gave Chavez jr the bravado to call him out. As for GGG unifying the 160Lb titles.. hmmm… I wish him luck. We all know that boxing is a busine$$. IF… Junior wants REALLY this fight and IF.. Team Chavez will allow him, then Arum will probably throw enough money at GGG to convince him. And… Chavez jr will probably get TOP billing, IMHO, not having a title will not change that. I believe the ‘contracted weight issue’ will be more of a factor than WHO has/hasn’t a title.

Posted March 5, 2014 1:37 pm 


Anonymous

Bulawayo2

YOU ARE A DUM WHITE BOY TELL GGG TO FIGHT WARD OR ANYBODY WHO CAN FIGHT AND SEE HOW LONG HE IS 29-0 THISA BUM HAS BEAT NOBODY I MEAN NOBODY

Posted March 5, 2014 1:10 pm 


Bulawayo2

Anonymous,
GGG is 29 and 0, I think you have the zero in the wrong place.

Posted March 5, 2014 12:57 pm 


Bulawayo2

Can somebody please tell me what Sog or Soggy stands for in regard to Ward, I really don’t know.

Posted March 5, 2014 12:55 pm 


TARK

EZ E.., “Considering the fact that it’s the Julio Cesar Chavez NAME that’s the attraction, that does rightfully give him the bargaining edge in setting/tipping the contracted ‘weight’ issue in his favor. That’s part of the bu$ine$$, understandably so, PAZ!!”

GGG would pull better than Chavez against the same name. He fills all the seats against non-names and even speaks English better than Jr … Chavez fought in an arena with half empty seats with a dynamite undercard.

Plus Gennady owns a world title at a weight that is very comfortable for him to make. I presume, since Jr fought Sergio for a middleweight title he would try to make the weight again.. 162 is not a title fight.. I don’t think GGG is interested in anything but world title fights since he’s had 10 in a row, and is anxious to unify at 160 to enhance his prestige … before going after another weight division.

But who knows… Golovkin is having such a hard time lining up Quillin and Martinez that he might go for a higher weight.

Posted March 5, 2014 12:21 pm 


Anonymous

EZ E
YOU JUST A DUM IGNORANT WHITE BOY
AND YOUR WHITE MOTHER LOVE AND BIG JOINT

Posted March 5, 2014 11:04 am 


EZ E

Anonymous said:

EZ E
you just a dum white boy

hmmm… Coming from a racist idiot like you, I’ll consider that a compliment. Actually, there’s nothing wrong with being a white boy, IF I were one. But I’m not. You’re probably sum low life back alley cowardly abused fool trying to get even fo sump’tin yo babysitting uncle did to yo busted dirty azz while yo momma was out working two jobs to feed a racist piece of trash like you. Later fool

Posted March 5, 2014 10:54 am 


te tumbo

except for “lazy ass”, weed smoking brawler whose tough and has a chin shouldn’t automatically be considered a minus. after all, he is earning millions.

Posted March 5, 2014 10:43 am 


Anonymous

EZ E
you just a dum white boy

Posted March 5, 2014 8:23 am 


Happyboy

Chavez Jnr is fearless and limited as the rest of the boxers that fill up GGGs poor resume. No need to talk him up as a real threat. Make GGG vs SOG then you talking, Jnr is a slow, lazy ass weed smoking tough brawler whose tough and has a chin.

Posted March 5, 2014 7:23 am 


EZ E

(TUMBO going back to bed. Just woke up to take a pizz and saw your comment. Hablamos later Homie, Al’rrato Carnal!!)

Posted March 5, 2014 3:16 am 


EZ E

Now, maybe the $$$ offer from Arum might be significantly good enough for GGG to fight regardless of the weight difference. That would be nothing new. And the considering the fact that it’s the Julio Cesar Chavez NAME that’s the attraction, that does rightfully give him the bargaining edge in setting/tipping the contracted ‘weight’ issue in his favor. That’s part of the bu$ine$$, understandably so, PAZ!!

Posted March 5, 2014 3:12 am 


EZ E

TUMBO Q-VO mi Carnal Well, you might be correct. They are kind’a close, maybe GGG a bit more impressive as far as the results, but basically the same, granted. But if it’s Junior that doing the challenging he should come down in weight, maybe not all the way down to 160 but possibly 162 ot their abouts. Now, if that happens then he might be too weak to be at his best as well, which would kill the purpose of the fight. Why see a fight where BOTH aren’t at there best or where one fighter has TOO MUCH of the weight/size advantage as well? It kind’a works both ways, if I’m getting my point across correctly. Orale pues Carnal. Paz como siempre para TUMBO!

Posted March 5, 2014 2:58 am 


te tumbo

Q-Vo EZ E. IMO, Jr. and Golovkin are about equal in terms of accomplishments. one big difference is that Jr. has the standard of his legendary father to at-least not disgrace. who else feels a desperate desire to immediately redeem every questionable decision that goes his way? not Lara. moreover, Chavez Jr. can boast of at-least one incident in his favor: he knocked the rivets off of Martinez’s joints and frame in the final two rounds of what was a lopsided @sskicking. Jr. may have punched the prime right out of him. he stepped up and was defeated but didn’t fail. we’ll see how well Golovkin fares when he takes an equal step up in competition but as of right now, Jr. is at least that much ahead in the fight-game including his challenge of Golovkin . . . Peace to EZ E.

Posted March 5, 2014 2:47 am 


EZ E

Anonymous said

“EZ E
who has ggg beat who who who”

ahhh.. Okay, Anonymous, allow me to ask you, WHO has Chavez Jr beat? WHO? WHO? WHO?

I believe my post very EZ to understand comment shot over your head. I wasn’t praising GGG in any way (go back a re-read) I was merely saying that if Junior was at his best on Saturday then his best probably won’t be enough against any of the top 168/175Lbers. (and I’ll now add GGG to the list while I’m at it) He’ll challenge GGG but under the condition that GGG come in at 168?? “Wow”!! If HE’S the one doing the challenging then why don’t HE come down to 160??!! That’s a challenge that I can respect. But.. if he NEEDS a 20LB fight night advantage to fight GGG then what does that tell you about his “bold challenge”?? Comprende?? Now, if he did enough to impress YOU on Saturday night then it could be that you’re EZ to impress but NOT enough to impress me, EZ E!! Peace to Anonymous, peace to all!!

Posted March 4, 2014 11:40 pm 


Luke

Steel Panther….after the sho!!

Posted March 4, 2014 10:00 pm 


BUSTAJAY

At a hotel….poor connection and my first post did not have me signed in….ugggggh

Posted March 4, 2014 9:17 pm 


BUSTAJAY

@Luke
Yeah Joey and the gang kicked heavy metal to another level. A little too hard for our hair spray. That is a BIG name for a small bar.

We, my band, played like Zepplin, Ozzy, Poision, Cinderalla, Tesla, Crüe, White Lion, Dokken and yes many, not all now, were bands that make you wonder WTF you were doing at the time….LOL

Still….check out STEEL PANTHER

Posted March 4, 2014 9:15 pm 


Anonymous

@Luke
Yeah Joey and the gang kicked heavy metal to another level. A little too hard for our hair spray. That is a BIG name for a small bar.

We, my band, played like Zepplin, Ozzy, Poision, Cinderalla, Tesla, Crüe, White Lion, Dokken and yes many, not all now, were bands that make you wonder WTF you were doing at the time….LOL

Posted March 4, 2014 9:14 pm 


Luke

I mean that’s a pretty big name for a backwoods bar!! So far backwoods, the last 3 times I was there was on my snowmobile!! The chicks luv a guy on snowmobile…LOL!!

Posted March 4, 2014 9:07 pm 


Luke

Ahhh METAL!! I’m not really a metal guy but about 3 weeks ago I ventured over to a little outta the way Pennsylvania bar where a guy by the name of Joey Belladonna was playin…lead singer of Anthrax!! He was playin classic rock all night and the dude really really had some wind pipes!!!

Posted March 4, 2014 9:05 pm 


Luke

Should b caught up with Sunday’s show by 9.

Posted March 4, 2014 9:00 pm 


BUSTAJAY

@ Luke & Joseph
The 80s were great for music…..If you like raw humor and still crave the 80s hair metal you must check out Steel Panther…..Me and my girl saw them live in ATL last year and hands down best concert I went to in 10 Yrs….

Death to all but METAL….LOL

Posted March 4, 2014 8:57 pm 


Joseph Herron

LOL…you’re a good man, Luke!!

Posted March 4, 2014 8:33 pm 


Luke

hey BUSTA….fellow product of the 80′s…love it bro!!

JOSEPH…well said about your pops and GGG’s pops!!

Life is precious!! And, family is as good a gift as we are
given!! Unfortunately, many of us realize this too late.

Brother, I’m not much of a musician but can I come on
the show n sing a duet with Tyson Furry?!! 80′s style
of course!!

Posted March 4, 2014 8:28 pm 


Joseph Herron

BUSTAJAY: “@Joseph Herron
Sorry for your loss bro. I can’t wrap my mind around life without my Pops. I am sure someone will also say the same about us after we are called home.

Joseph I bet you played bass….right?
I was in a 80s band back in the day,showing my age, and you strike me as the bass player type of dude.”

Thanks for the kind words, my friend.

i do play bass, buy my primary instruments are voice and guitar.

You used to actually have to be proficient at pretty much everything to record music back in the day. Not anymore. It’s crazy how you have so many people who are trying to make music who don’t even know how to play one instrument.

I used to love playing live…I guess that’s why I do a radio show now…lol

Posted March 4, 2014 8:19 pm 


Cheezb

@Fight Aficionado – “is if GGG decides to not gain 8 lbs and simply not dry up to make 160 so he ends up at 162-163.”

Agreed, and I reckon that’s the way they’d play it. I don’t think there’s really any need for them to bulk up for this fight. Vera didn’t look to have bulked (i.e. just didn’t cut weight so drastically) and even though he got pushed around a bit, it wasn’t any more than any of Chavez’ previous 160lb opponents.

It all comes back to the fact that Chavez is just so easy to hit and doesn’t have a massive amount of power himself. Golovkin won’t likely have to exert himself all that much, so the size differential ought not to be overly draining.

Again it goes back to their sparring session on YouTube. Golovkin obliged Chavez by letting the fight happen on the inside and Chavez was struggling to land anything clean, whereas Golovkin looked to be able to land on Chavez at will. I think an actual fight between the two goes very much the same way, just that Golovkin will be throwing for real this time.
But of course, it’s always hard to tell. Sparring and fight night can be two very different animals.

Posted March 4, 2014 7:58 pm 


Cheezb

Well, I don’t think we’ll have to speculate for long… I’d be really, really surprised if this fight doesn’t get made. The money would simply be too good to ignore, and it would lead straight into another big money fight with Martinez (and then hopefully straight into a Ward fight).
The only way I think the fight may not happen, is if Martinez (after the Cotto fight) pulls a shifty and instead of facing Golovkin, moves up and rematches Chavez.

Either way, I think Golovkin’s next fight should be a good one. If it’s not Chavez, it will likely be Geale (i.e. new HBO date so surely won’t clash for Geale this time around). Or if it’s the final Monte Carlo bout (as opposed to HBO), it could be Murray (assuming Murray’s promotional issues are sorted).

Posted March 4, 2014 7:47 pm 


Fight Aficionado

The only reason I’d agree with GGG vs Chavez Jr is if GGG decides to not gain 8 lbs and simply not dry up to make 160 so he ends up at 162-163. It’s a relatively smart way Pacquiao and Floyd have risen in weight, with both often weighing 3-4 lbs below the division limit. Of course he’d in effect be spotting Jr weight and the dude’s already a cruiserweight, but at least he wouldn’t screw up his body.

Posted March 4, 2014 7:47 pm 


Fight Aficionado

I don’t agree with GGG fighting at 168 just because there’s a big money fight. When guys screw with their weight it can have a permanent effect on their metabolism and core strength from growing and then shrinking back down. This happened to Paul Williams, Kelly Pavlik, Chad Dawson and Roy Jones among others. Stay at 160 and fight all comers at that weight.

Posted March 4, 2014 7:42 pm 


Yo MOMMA

You all can talk smack about JR but GGG may have his hands full with him. JR is tall, has range and has a great chin. GGG mostly been fed stiffs. JR has fought Martinez and at the last minute had Martinez on his last legs.

Posted March 4, 2014 7:03 pm 


BUSTAJAY

@Joseph Herron
Sorry for your loss bro. I can’t wrap my mind around life without my Pops. I am sure someone will also say the same about us after we are called home.

Joseph I bet you played bass….right?
I was in a 80s band back in the day,showing my age, and you strike me as the bass player type of dude.

Posted March 4, 2014 6:21 pm 


PEEJ

Reality is GGG is a 160lb fighter. He has never fought at 154. Not even in the amateurs.

Posted March 4, 2014 5:15 pm 


Titopa

david d. – What does that have to do with what I asked? Why say “anyone” when it’s really not “anyone”? Why not take the fight with Ward?

Posted March 4, 2014 4:43 pm 


david d.

You know like when RJJJ fought Ruiz yet continued to boast that he could beat either Klitschko…or like when FMJ didn’t make weight to face a boxer that was coming up two divisions….the absurdity of this bs seems to be accepted by fans and sanctioning bodies.

Posted March 4, 2014 3:55 pm 


david d.

Titopa, the fighters today are grabbing at any money fights that they can. It’s the fact that catch weights and no mandatory weight making contracts allow this. There is a reason why there are weight divisions in boxing….saddly, the boxing organizations are getting around the established rulings and those boxers that can, are taking advantage of it.

Posted March 4, 2014 3:47 pm 


Titopa

david d. – So why did GGG say “anyone from 154-175″? Was that actually “anyone from 154-175 that I can beat, otherwise I’ll only fight at 160″?

Posted March 4, 2014 3:36 pm 


david d.

Okay, this is the reality of it all……GGG is a 154-160lb boxer and JCC is a 168-175lb boxer. Against top opposition, GGG will do well at either weight but JCC will not do well at either weight. Ward, Froch, Groves, Kessler, Hopkins, Stevenson or Kovalev await the saddly over rated JCC.

Posted March 4, 2014 3:29 pm 


Anonymous

ggg is a rated bum who continues his bum after bum tour

Posted March 4, 2014 3:10 pm 


Titopa

Liver Shot – I’m a fan of GGG and NOT a fan of Chavez, but I really don’t think GGG will be able to stop or really even hurt Chavez. I think you guys are too in love with his power and you guys think he can make anyone fold, remember what happened to Matthysse, not every fighter is going to succumb to power or allow themselves to get into a brawl. I don’t care for Chavez, but I’ll pick him to beat GGG.

Posted March 4, 2014 3:02 pm 


Hecdog

Titopa my friend, I do agree that he has to take on guys in his weight class or above in time. I would like to see Quillin, Martinez, Ward, Froch and Kessler fight him, but money is going to be the problem. I like GGG a lot, and I think he is very capable of beating all of them. Will these fights happen? I don’t know. $ and promoters mess everything up. I hope GGG and his family are doing well through this tough time in their lives.

Posted March 4, 2014 2:57 pm 


Anonymous

ggg continues his parade of bum after bum

Posted March 4, 2014 2:52 pm 


PEEJ

I think it has more to do with Lara being with Golden Boy and HBO holding a grudge against Golden Boy.

Posted March 4, 2014 2:46 pm 


Liver Shot

Titopa – Not saying Chavez has a week chin, but his face may not hold up for 12 rounds. He blew up around the eyes vs Martinez, he was pretty brusied after the light hitting Vera. GGG is more active than Martinez and hits harder than Vera. Chavez will enter the ring at 180-185 on fight night. His size allows him to take heavy shots by smaller fighters. Chavez needs to learn how to move side to side because the straight forward and bully style wont work against world class fighters.

Posted March 4, 2014 2:27 pm 


Titopa

PEEJ – If HBO indeed said no to Lara as an opponent, I feel it’s probably to preserve GGG’s reputation as a destroyer…not saying he won’t beat Lara, but Lara makes everyone look bad and at this point, HBO won’t jeopardize that.

Posted March 4, 2014 2:14 pm 


Titopa

Hecdog – I know GGG’s father just passed so no real “talks” will commence until some time, but so far I’ve heard/read nothing but excuses from his camp as to why he won’t (or can’t) fight this guy or that guy…and I’m a HUGE GGG fan, he said he’ll fight anyone from 154-175, yet he said “no” to Ward at 168, he’s stupid to think he can tangle with the best at 168 or 175…he better stick to 160 and not try to make 154lbers come up to 160

Posted March 4, 2014 2:11 pm 


PEEJ

I don’t think in this instance money is the determining factory. It is GGGs team that is offering the money. Not the other way around. So Lara would have to take what GGGs team offers up if he really wanted the fight. Look at the other fighters he has fought, there was no money in any of those fights either. People are tuning in to watch GGG not the opponent. Lara was turned down because they stated that he was not on the approved opponents by HBO. AS far as Ward, he draws decent in Oakland. And he is the champion, if you want to become champ you have to agree to his terms.

Posted March 4, 2014 2:01 pm 


Ike

Vera is not good. Chavez is now 1-1 against him. Congrats…I guess. I love the proposed GGG-Chavez match-up. While Martinez schooled Chavez Jr., Chavez scored a late knockdown to make people forget about how thoroughly dominated he was from rounds 1 thru 11. Not only will Triple G. beat Chavez Jr., but he’ll also beat him up. For the money and the notoriety, Golovkin will definitely move up to 168 lbs. Can’t wait.

Posted March 4, 2014 1:57 pm 


Anonymous

EZ E
who has ggg beat who who who

Posted March 4, 2014 1:48 pm 


EZ E

I don’t understand why some fans were so impressed by Julio Jr on Saturday. He beat an over-blown MIDDLEWEIGHT. Vera was never a factor as a 160Lber. What was considered an was considered “easy pickings” by Team Chavez. The weight issue was a joke. The ONLY reason the rematch took place was due the controversial decision in Julio’s favor. Yes, Junior looked better but was that a command performance over a true 160lber. I like Vera, he’s and old school fighter, but he wasn’t a factor at 160, much less at 168! Is Junior going after GGG at 160?? Really “bold” of Junior to ‘call out’ a small MIDDLEWEIGHT. How many top 168Lbers would you say Vera can beat?? hmmm… So… what exactly did Junior prove in beating Vera?? Most fan/posters predicted that he would KO Vera this time around, just like they predicted the first time. Did Vera OVER ACHIEVE AGAIN?? Or was it that Junior UNDER ACHIEVED AGAIN?? Did he blow-out Vera this time?? Yes he won clearly but was it a true blow out?? Oh well… gotta go. Peace

Posted March 4, 2014 1:39 pm 


Zinadine

PEEJ

Lara is easy to turn down because there is little money in that fight. And, GGG would have to come down to 154. Sure, for Floyd it would be worth it but not for Lara. Risk vs. Reward.

Now will he go up to 168 for Chavez jr?
WHy not. It would be a big money fight and it could test the waters in that division. But what about turning down Andre Ward? It’s not as big financially as Chavez jr.
Ward doesn’t draw.
GGG fighting Chavez, with a victory, would boost his name amongst casual fans.

Posted March 4, 2014 1:36 pm 


Anonymous

chavez knocks out ggg in 8

Posted March 4, 2014 1:25 pm 


PEEJ

Question is will GGG be willing to go to 168? He has already turned down 2 fights at 168 after saying he would fight from 154 to 175. He has also turned down Lara also who is a 154lb fighter. So we have to wait and see what he does. I think he beats Chavez but we would finally see GGG stretched for more than a few rounds and with punches coming back at him.

Posted March 4, 2014 1:22 pm 


Hecdog

Mad Scientist, yes Broner did have me fooled. I though he had more character than he did. he has the physical tools, but he failed miserably. GGG is a complete different fighter than Broner. There not anywhere near the same league. GGG is legit and the best fighter in boxing today. He will destroy Chavez, but I’m telling you now. This fight won’t happen because Chavez will not fight him. Some excuse will come before they even get to the table. Chavez can only fight one way, and gets hit way too much. GGG can fight you anywhere, and he makes you fight. I will put my house, car, retirement, savings/checking accounts and my Manny Pacquiao autographed photo on it. Chavez has zero chance.

Posted March 4, 2014 1:02 pm 


Titopa

Don’t forget that GGG said “I’ll fight anyone from 154-175″, I bet he’s regretting that now that everyone’s calling him out…when you say things like that fighters will call your bluff. GGG does need time to mourn (and rightfully so) over the passing of his father (RIP)..

Posted March 4, 2014 12:56 pm 


Anonymous

the best fighters are black and will beat the crap out of european fighters like crawford just beat that white boy from scotland

Posted March 4, 2014 12:37 pm 


Joseph Herron

Guys…keep Gennady in your thoughts and prayers.

I lost my father last year and still think about him and miss him everyday.

My dad is the sole reason why I became such a huge boxing fan, a writer, and a musician. He was my hero.

He read everything that I published and listened to every show I ever conducted. He also came out and saw every gig I ever played as a professional musician.

Now everytime I write an article or an editorial, I always think about what dad would have said about it.

That’s what Gennady is having to deal with at this time, and it is painful.

So my thoughts and prayers go out to him and his family.

God Bless you, brother!!

Posted March 4, 2014 12:33 pm 


wutupdoe

Nah, Garcia was/is undefeated. He was teeming with confidence.

Posted March 4, 2014 12:28 pm 


The Mad Scientist

Hecdog I don’t trust anything you say kid..don’t forget it was you who backed Adrian Broner as the next great thing and we all know how that turned out..

Posted March 4, 2014 12:09 pm 


PEEJ

Not sure if he is a legend in the making, he has a way to go before that can be talked about. The level of comp isn’t comparable to anything close to a legend. Once he wins the middleweight title and defends it a few times and moves up, then we can see what he is made of. Going by sparring and hear say is just weak. Who cares what he has done in sparring. We need to see that in a real fight. Look and Kimbo Slice, internet sensation, everybody said he would be a killer in the ring. As we can see that was completely false. Look at Alis sparring sessions. His partners would whoop Ali in some cases, but no way in heck would any of his sparring partners beat him, except for Holmes. But that was also an old Ali

Posted March 4, 2014 12:01 pm 


The Mad Scientist

Lol at the Golovkin fans pretending to be worried for Chavez Jr’s health..Chavez and his fans ain’t scared they want the fight and the possible victory for celebration..GGG fans act like their boy is such a badass but at the same time seem so unsure and insecure he might get expose and lose to a so called bum like Chavez Jr..

Posted March 4, 2014 11:58 am 


srminimo

hookoffthejab- Froch is battle tested, longer and bigger than GGG, has a granite chin and Chavez does not have his one Kryptonite: Speed. Yeah he’s getting older and GGG looks like the goods, but, going by quality of competition, I still rank Froch above Golovkin.

Posted March 4, 2014 11:54 am 


Hecdog

Mad Scientist and all the other doubters. GGG will punish Chaver Jr badly and stop him between rounds 9-12. Chavez is big, strong, but has no speed, defense and likes to take punishment, which in this case will leave him stretched out on the canvas. And yes, Chavez jr does not want this fight. His sparring session with GGG let him know he can’t compete with GGG. Chavez will retire after this fight. GGG is a legend in the making. Ask Sergie Kovalev how his sparring went with GGG. The man is a monster and will beat anyone put in front of him. He loves to fight, stay active all the time, and is powerful. Trust me, Chavez will never sign this fight. Just watch.

Posted March 4, 2014 11:47 am 


Anonymous

chavez will break this ggg bum down chavez 8th rd ko
ggg has beat nobody

Posted March 4, 2014 11:41 am 


Anonymous

chavez will break this over hyped bum into submission you heard it from day 1 chavez 8th ko

Posted March 4, 2014 11:40 am 


PEEJ

No you can’t. People are getting ridiculous with all this garbage saying you can tell he doesn’t want it or did you look at the look on his face. Same thing they said with Garcia about Matthysse and what did Garcia do. Came in and showed he isn’t scared of anybody. Chavez isn’t scared of anybody. Now whether he can win it or not is something different.

Posted March 4, 2014 11:40 am 


wutupdoe

You can tell that Jr. really doesn’t want it in his post fight interview.

Posted March 4, 2014 11:31 am 


PEEJ

This looks like to be a good fight. GGG is not a mover and Chavez will come forward. Chavez will be fighting a puncher with power, and GGG will be fighting someone who will come forward, will be able to take his punches for a few rounds and be able to throw back. Chavez isn’t an elite fighter but still a good test. Question is will he take the fight against Chavez since it will be at 168

Posted March 4, 2014 11:07 am 


Decision

GGG is Chavez Jr’ worst nightmaire.

Chavez Jr has never met such a hard punching demon before, in his career.

GGG will bully the fat Chavez Jr until he drops him, like he is hot.

The worst opponent the Mexican weightwatcher could ever meet.

I hope Jr comes out of this, without serious damage …

Posted March 4, 2014 10:52 am 


impacted

Cheatin made the point well. Chavez Jr has run out of options, the Mexican fans have turned on him, they’re not buying tickets to see his latest walk over any more, and he will have to step it up in his next fight or else forget about a good purse. Golovkin would absolutely hammer him, but Bob Arum realises that Chavez has used up all the patience of all but his most obsessive fans.

Posted March 4, 2014 9:57 am 


The Mad Scientist

Hopefully this fight happens..I see Chavez Jr up for this getting himself in the best shape of his life and breaking down GGG much like Margarito did Cotto in their first fight..Lol!, let’s get it done war Chavez Jr!

Posted March 4, 2014 9:30 am 


Hidalg0

“My guess is that one of the stipulations made by K2 would be to create a weight ceiling for Chavez on the day of the fight”

Seems to me like this would be a necessity in order for the fight to be made. Abel Sanchez, GGGs trainer said himself that GGG is a “small middleweight.” If they do fight and there are no weight stipulations, Chavez would probably enter the ring weighing between 182 and 185 lbs. at least. That’s no super middleweight and definitely not a middleweight.

Posted March 4, 2014 8:58 am 


Hidalg0

“One of the reasons why most trainers insist on starting the nurturing process at a very young age, is to somewhat dehumanize the fighter and get him acclimated to the idea of whooping someone’s ass in the ring.”

And to get his ass whooped as well. Boxers who start fighting at a very young age learn early on not to fear getting hit. I believe legendary trainer Emanuel Steward said that. :)

Posted March 4, 2014 8:54 am 


The Greatest Promoter of All Times

CurlyQ.Howard

Yo Mamma, In answer to your question about why a weight ceiling, my reply is that if it were a bare knuckles bout, I would not care what weight Chavez made fight night as GGG would K.O. Chavez before his (Chavez) having too much of a weight advantage could affect the outcome. Since it isn’t bare knuckles, and since boxing commissions stipulate weight divisions, a weight limit should be imposed.

Posted March 3, 2014 10:37 pm

Bare knuckles fights become a 50/50. A fighter is ten times more likely to break his hand, dislocate his fingers, get damaged ligaments or any assortment of broken bones, wrists during a bare knuckle fight. Why don’t you try hitting someone’s forehead without protection on your hands, or connect with an elbow or any other bony part of the body. You would end up with your hand in a cast quicker than you could say Suzy Q. Remember TYSON and his infamous street fight with Mitch Blood Green? I’ve been in and around too many fist fights to know this to be the case. All it takes is one stray punch and you could be the traditional one-armed bandit after a few seconds and guaranteed to be on the end of a serious beat down!

Posted March 4, 2014 8:48 am 


The Greatest Promoter of All Times

Joseph Herron

There’s a reason why so many within the boxing community…trainers, other fighters, and promoters…pretty much everyone. He is a complete fighter and one of the few Eastern European born fighters with an extensive pedigree who has adapted well to fighting proficiently on the inside. Couple that with his power and you’re looking at a guy who is virtuall….

In no way am I a Chavez Jnr fan, but wouldn’t GGG fighting on the inside expose him to the left hook to the body from Jnr? This is the only decent weapon Jnr throws like his father and so far no one has elected to go to the body of GGG. I always wonder about fighters who seem invincible and the best way to test them is to the body when they are throwing and Jnr is good at letting his bulk sit on you in close, sapping your energy and letting that hook go to the liver and those sneaky uppercuts to the head.

Problem with Jnr is he is reckless and not the complete package offensively or defensively which will mean GGG will have as much chance to hurt him to the body as he will get hit by Jnr.

What I want to see is Jnr land consistently to those ribs and to see if GGG can take it. Too many people are concerned with head shots, but a debilitating body attack say by the likes of a Pedroza, Chavez Snr ultimately slow down a good, aggressive come forward type and empty their tanks real quick.

Hope they make the fight. Hope it’s competitive.

Ultimately, if Jnr had a good defensive game and could defend I would give him a great chance to do well and win and if he could fight off the back foot it would be 50/50, but he can’t do any of this, so I see this as a fight in which GGG can go 10 rounds and shine, probably wearing Jnr down in a brawl and give Bob Arum what he’s been praying or should I say preying for! someone to take over from Pacquiao as his new cash cow to suck the financial life out of.

Posted March 4, 2014 8:30 am 


Cheezb

@hookoffthejab – “Theres not a chance in HELL Junior does this… >end the fight on his feet………….”

I dunno, I just think he’s one of those types that will stay up even when he’s half dead (like he may get dropped here and there, but he’ll somehow manage to keep getting up)… kinda like when his old man took an inhumane beating from Kostya Tszyu.

Posted March 4, 2014 7:01 am 


Decision

GGG is so Lucky, a big moneyfight handed to him.
Noway Chávez Jr is standing after the 3rd round.

Posted March 4, 2014 6:22 am 


hookoffthejab

I don’t see Chavez going the distance. He’ll probably end the fight on his feet, but either the ref or the corner will call a stop to it… he’s about as tailor made for Golovkin as any fighter could possible be.
Posted March 4, 2014 6:06 am

Theres not a chance in HELL Junior does this… >end the fight on his feet………….

Posted March 4, 2014 6:09 am 


Cheezb

Saw their old sparring session on YouTube. It was a while back, but Chavez still looked to fight with the same tank-like style he uses now and frankly he was getting owned easily.

I don’t see Chavez going the distance. He’ll probably end the fight on his feet, but either the ref or the corner will call a stop to it… he’s about as tailor made for Golovkin as any fighter could possible be.

Posted March 4, 2014 6:06 am 


The Mad Scientist

Don’t pretend to worry about Chavez Jr’s health against GGG all of sudden..you ain’t fooling nobody, your true fear an insecurity is witnessing GGG getting his ass handed to him by a so called bum like Chavez Jr..fans need to clamor for this fight ain’t no ifs, ands or buts about it, let’s get it done and may the baddest mofo win..war Chavez Jr!, we ain’t never scared!

Posted March 4, 2014 5:26 am 


Hecdog

Julio Cesar Chavez Jr, will get seriously hurt if he even thinks about fighting GGG. I do not want to see a death in the ring ever. Junior has no chance and no business fighting this monster, ever.

Posted March 4, 2014 3:41 am 


hookoffthejab

The problem for Junior fighting against GG is that Gennady is deadly at mid range and long range …. He may be able to smother GG though I cant see him surviving at all playing that game or trying ……….

Posted March 4, 2014 3:19 am 


hookoffthejab

Junior would stand a better chance against Froch ……….

Posted March 4, 2014 3:17 am 


srminimo

This is actually be the best big fight match up for Chavez. There’s no contending the fact that the guy can take a punch (although he hasn’t taken THAT kind of punch) and GGG is just about the only top guy he can fight that’s smaller than him, so it’s not inconceivable he could outlast him in a fire fight. I don’t think he beats Golovkin, for the record, but if the options are the likes of Froch, Ward, Kovalev and Stevenson I would be calling out GGG too.

Posted March 4, 2014 3:14 am 


hookoffthejab

He might not be the most athletically gifted fighter in the world, but he has what most people on this earth don’t…the fearless mentality to eat someone’s best punch and shake it off like it never happened and continue working. Couple that with the ability to work at short range proficiently, while throwing shots that are almost impossible to defend against, and you have a legitimate contender and a fighter who is very difficult to beat for twelve straight rounds.
Posted March 4, 2014 12:28 am

It wouldn’t go twelve Joseph … GG would stop Junior most likely to the body …And it could happen real early unless Chavez becomes a lot more defensively minded ……..

Posted March 4, 2014 3:11 am 


te tumbo

compared to Ward, Golovkin is an easier challenge with certain advantages favoring Jr. i can’t think of a single functional advantage Jr. could count on v. Ward.

Posted March 4, 2014 2:52 am 


Sant Flores

Definitely PPV, hope it happens!!

Posted March 4, 2014 2:48 am 


Sant Flores

GGG will knockout Chavez with a liver shot, mark my words, so it doesn’t matter how good his chin is besides GGG is the hardest puncher chavez has faced!!

Posted March 4, 2014 2:46 am 


BUSTAJAY

All you have to do is look at the amateur record on GGG and see this man understands boxing.
JR is a powerhouse but his internal drive seems to skip a beat every other fight. I for one would shell out cash to see this head on collision.

Posted March 4, 2014 2:43 am 


soda popinski

should be interesting.the fact that chavez wants the fight and is willing to fight him caught me by surprise.Its ppv i think,i for one would buy.

Posted March 4, 2014 2:24 am 


te tumbo

the best thing for Jr. is for Golovkin too move up to 168lbs. ANYthing that will postpone a predictably embarrassing loss to Ward. Jr’s. got a solid chance v. Golovkin but virtually no more a chance v. Ward than Guerrero had v. Mayweather.

Posted March 4, 2014 2:11 am 


soda popinski

yea i agree im not high on the calibur fighter chavez is but alot has to do with him not taking boxing serious.his training habits,his weed tokes and not taking making weight serious but i would love to see what ggg can do with that chin and what he can do at 168.more importantly i dont want to see a chavez vs ward whish had been talked about.if ggg looks good at 168 and beats chavez then i would love to see ggg vs froch and the winner face ward.

Posted March 4, 2014 2:04 am 


soda popinski

lmao,im sure hell be right back at the morg once he sees his hospital bill.

Posted March 4, 2014 2:00 am 


te tumbo

“sent to the morg were he then woke up and they noticed him kicking in his body bag?” i saw that. i also saw the picture of the guy recovering in the hospital . . . he may be regretting not staying “dead”. intubation is hardly living.

Posted March 4, 2014 1:52 am 


te tumbo

correction: nonetheless, Chavez Jr. would be the toughest name on Golovkin’s otherwise notable but not particularly impressive ring-resume.

Posted March 4, 2014 1:51 am 


te tumbo

i’ve never been a huge fan of Chavez Jr. but i recognize and appreciate the risk and danger he poses for any opponent. particularly smaller ones like Golovkin who i’ve yet to see v. a truly formidable opponent. in fact, not even a win v. Chavez Jr. would impress many (other than myself and a few others) considering the low regard so many on this board have for Jr. nonetheless, Chavez Jr. would be the toughest name on Golovkin’s otherwise notable but particularly impressive ring-resume.

Posted March 4, 2014 1:50 am 


soda popinski

Off subject,you guys here about that one guy who was pronounced dead, sent to the morg were he then woke up and they noticed him kicking in his body bag?gary russell wants to fight him.

Posted March 4, 2014 1:45 am 


The Mad Scientist

Seems like some of these GGG fanboys have beens spoiled by the hype and dominance over weak competition..I guess the thought of a so called never was or bum like Chavez Jr challenging or beating Golovkins ass don’t sit to well with them since in their deluded minds GGG is already a legend..Lol! War Chavez Jr!

Posted March 4, 2014 1:42 am 


soda popinski

war chavez,but i like ggg.he reminds me a bit of chavez sr, lets see if hes the beast hes advertise to be.

Posted March 4, 2014 1:40 am 


The Mad Scientist

That’s right!, no excuses just make the fight and may the baddest mofo win..war Chavez Jr!

Posted March 4, 2014 1:34 am 


soda popinski

i hear you herron but i what im getting at and the point was that if this fight gets made at 168 which is super middle wieght there should be no rehydrate claus and let the best man win.i beleive chavez is a good fighter, not great but good and as for ggg i would love to see him against an elite fighter to see how well he does but for the time being a chavez fight if anything should be a great test for both.im not high on either right now but no clause, no excuses.

Posted March 4, 2014 1:26 am 


Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. LionKing)

Yeah… it is sad to see, Joe. I, like any other JCC fan, had high hopes for Jr. being able to live up the legend. But perhaps those shoes were just too big to fill and our expectations were a little too lofty. I do agree that the whole hero, “son of the legend” angle doesn’t appear to be working all that well, so maybe it is time for them to re-strategize? “Have Junior adopt the Darth Vader type moniker…become the guy who every legitimately loves to hate. With his chin, physical and mental durability, coupled with his increasing power as he advances with every weight division, he could find his niche as boxing’s next villain.” Good idea – I like it! Now that’s the way crafty promoters have to think in order to successfully market their cash cows and drive ticket/PPVs sales through the roof.

Posted March 4, 2014 1:05 am 


te tumbo

“He is a complete fighter and one of the few Eastern European born fighters with an extensive pedigree who has . . .” blah-blah-blah. i’ve been reading the same hype about eastern european and Cuban fighters since the Cold War and only the Klitschkos have delivered and it took both of them to do it. jeezus HERRON(?!), isn’t there a single original thought in that shaggy head of yours?

Posted March 4, 2014 1:03 am 


te tumbo

“But I guess you know better than guys like Garcia, Roach, Shields, and pretty much every knowledgeable fight trainer in the industry”. I think you’re right about that, but you forgot to include your stupid a$$ on that list of subordinates. face it JOE. your shaggy head has never been hit with anything stiffer than morning wood. Wtf would YOU really know about a Fight?

Posted March 4, 2014 12:44 am 


te tumbo

Btw, “Bears” should really hate You for setting me up to look like a boxing genius . . . or exposing yourself for a boxing-ignoramASS. “. . . don’t expect me to just sit back and take it in the shorts”? assume the position hot-pants.

Posted March 4, 2014 12:36 am 


te tumbo

HERRON, didn’t I embarrass you enough after Saturday’s fight-card? what was that you asserted? “ . . . criticize all you want, but don’t be surprised if Lomo does a paint job on your boy this Saturday night!!” and “Chavez will not be effective at using the entire ring and setting traps for Vera because that’s not his forte” (pft?!). Saturday’s fight-card is a perfect example of why true fight-fans disregard the canned drivel of assorted “experts”, “journalists”, and shills. despite your premature nut-hugging of Lomachenko, he looked and fought precisely as I predicted: an amateur completely out of his depth among the pros with his pitty-pat flurries and zero body-attack. he was exceedingly lucky that he was in v. the featherweight gatekeeper. otherwise, he would’ve been trampled by the likes of Garcia, Mares, or Gonzalez. also, keeping his distance so he could tag Vera with lead rights and thunderous hooks is precisely what won the fight for Jr. you’ve got a Lot to learn, Joe . . . from Me.

Posted March 4, 2014 12:33 am 


Joseph Herron

soda popinski: “If you want a weight clause then the rule in general should change to going back weighing fighters on the day of the fight.until then you fight an any division the goal is to make to the weight, if its met than the fighters should be allowed to rehydrate themself as those are the rules.if ggg cant handle that dont move up.”

They will never go back to those days, Popinski.

The weigh in has become such a huge promotional event and a legitimate part of the entire experience. So it’s not even just the safety of the fighters any longer, it’s part of the money making process now.

Learn to love it…it’s here to stay, brother!!

Posted March 4, 2014 12:32 am 


Boxtradamus

I just poured a can of Dr. Pepper all over my balls.

Posted March 4, 2014 12:32 am 


The Mad Scientist

Hope this fight gets made..Chavez Jr fans ain’t scared of the outcome like the GGG fans who all of sudden are not sure their goodboy should take the fight..Lol!

Posted March 4, 2014 12:30 am 


Joseph Herron

It’s sad to see, isn’t it Squared Circle?

This is a fighter who has been cultivated the right way by very sharp matchmakers and fight managers, Sean Gibbons and Hall of Famer Bruce Trampler, but has chosen to negate all of their investment dollars by not getting the most himself in or out of the ring.

If the brass at Top Rank were smart…and they are, they would advise Junior to embrace the dark side and become antagonistic with the fans and the media. Trying to force him into this “hero” role isn’t working…and because of how revered his father is, I really don’t think it ever will.

Have Junior adopt the Darth Vader type moniker…become the guy who every legitimately loves to hate.

With his chin, physical and mental durability, coupled with his increasing power as he advances with every weight division, he could find his niche as boxing’s next villain.

Posted March 4, 2014 12:09 am 


soda popinski

PREDICTION:For ward vs ggg, ward late soppage.

Posted March 3, 2014 11:56 pm 


soda popinski

interesting post by boxer.you have to box or had box to be able to analyze a boxing fight.That helerious,so i guess the best match makers in the world who make th matches that make superstars and the vegas people that setup the odds at some point boxed.lmao,how you this man can assume that ggg is gonna roll over chavez is based on what?you seeing the setup fights setup on hbo, like theve done for broner?canelo?berto?listen, learn from this…before you make an ever dumber statement watch him beat a real contender before assuming something so far fetch.yes chavez may not be elite but he has fought argubaly the best middle weight since hopkins and not only did he go 12 and not give him but he laid him out and almost pulled of the win.Until you see this man fight against a real fighter or champion do make silly,comedic predictions.

Posted March 3, 2014 11:51 pm 


Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. LionKing)

I personally believe that 3G would give Jr. the beating of his lifetime. Although you have to admit that Jr. has a rock-solid chin, so his face and brain would probably swell up like a balloon — which could be extremely dangerous to his health.

Shoot… I’m betting that 3G will also beat Ward when Andre finally musters the courage to put it all on the line.

Posted March 3, 2014 11:45 pm 


DJ

If they put Chavez Jr in against GGG he is going to get destroyed and retired from boxing permanently. He is no where near a world class boxer and he doesn´t have the fitness or stamina to go a full 12 rds with a thorough professional like GGG. Good luck you are going to need stadiums full of it.

Posted March 3, 2014 11:40 pm 


boxer

I don’t understand all this speculation here. Chavez is a bum as he hasn’t beaten anyone, and the size advantage wouldn’t help him at all. He’ll be only slower to run away from 3G.

Most people on these boxing forums don’t know anything about boxing nor have they ever even boxed themselves.

Anyone with more than one brain cell understands Chavez is a fake and no threat to any of the best boxers.

Posted March 3, 2014 11:24 pm 


soda popinski

If you want a weight clause then the rule in general should change to going back weighing fighters on the day of the fight.until then you fight an any division the goal is to make to the weight, if its met than the fighters should be allowed to rehydrate themself as those are the rules.if ggg cant handle that dont move up.

Posted March 3, 2014 11:21 pm 


soda popinski

im curious to see what ggg can do when not only with the atmoshpere but being in front of a man that on fightnight will easily outweight him by over 20 pounds maybe and he may not be able to hurt.Fighting the best middleweight in the world may be the best thing that happen to chavez to prepare him for ggg,as expereince often can play a role in a big fight.

Posted March 3, 2014 11:18 pm 


soda popinski

i think a fight at 168 with no weight clause, weight clause should never be a talking point when fighting in a straight division in a battle for positioning.Secondly i dont think it will be a blowout like some think to be it might be.the truth of the matter is i dont beleive in hype.i beleive in what i see and up until this point triple g as much as i like him has not been tested.like chavez or not what he should in the martinez fight was the ability not only to take clean shots but to not give up on himself to the bitter end and as we know he almost pulled off the win against the best middle weight in the world.i also the best chavez will show up against ggg,i gotta believe its hard to be motivated for a vera fight but a ggg ppv im sure youll see his best.again thats not to say he will win but youll see the best of him.

Posted March 3, 2014 11:18 pm 


Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. LionKing)

Totally agree with your assessment, Joe. I was always a HUGE fan of JCC Sr., but really don’t like Jr. and his lazy “silverspoon” attitude. I definitely noticed the fans at the Alamodome booing Jr. in the 12th when he put on his track cleats and started showboating from his bicycle. We don’t ever want to see those clownish shenanigans out of our fighters.

Team GGG better make sure there’s a re-hydration limit clause in that contract, otherwise Jr. will walk into the ring weighing 190lbs. And you guys who really know boxing realize 3G is actually a small MW who can make 154lbs with no problem. I would much rather see him fight FMJ, Canelo or Lara. Or Maravilla for all the marbles — if he can get past Cotto. But Jr. vs. 3G should be a WAR!

Posted March 3, 2014 10:55 pm 


CurlyQ.Howard

Yo Mamma, In answer to your question about why a weight ceiling, my reply is that if it were a bare knuckles bout, I would not care what weight Chavez made fight night as GGG would K.O. Chavez before his (Chavez) having too much of a weight advantage could affect the outcome. Since it isn’t bare knuckles, and since boxing commissions stipulate weight divisions, a weight limit should be imposed.

Posted March 3, 2014 10:37 pm 


GGG the welterweight fighter

Fight would never happen. GGG only fights welterweights .

Posted March 3, 2014 10:33 pm 


Joseph Herron

One of the reasons why Top Rank has no choice but to adopt a “sink or swim” mentality because Junior lost over what seems like half of his fan base because of his “juevon” behavior outside of the ring.

The Mexican fan base take great pride in their fighters putting on the hard hat and really grinding and pounding their way to victory. Most have become resentful towards Chavez and his ticket sales have really plummeted.

So Top Rank has no choice but to stick him in the best match-ups possible and roll the dice.

Posted March 3, 2014 10:30 pm 


Joseph Herron

te tumbo: “a matchup at 168lbs with NO weight-related clauses of any kind whatsoever is the only option for Jr. he can’t make a healthy 160lbs any more and as long as he makes the official weight, only he should have to worry about the calculated risk he takes by losing and/or rehydrating too much. i still haven’t seen Golovkin v. a truly top-notch or dangerous opponent or anybody heavier than 160lbs.”

Than you don’t know what you’re looking at, Tumbo. Resume speak and stats are for fans who really don’t know much bout the sweet science.

There’s a reason why so many within the boxing community…trainers, other fighters, and promoters…pretty much everyone. He is a complete fighter and one of the few Eastern European born fighters with an extensive pedigree who has adapted well to fighting proficiently on the inside. Couple that with his power and you’re looking at a guy who is virtually unbeatable in this version of the Middleweight division.

But I guess you know better than guys like Garcia, Roach, Shields, and pretty much every knowledgeable fight trainer in the industry.

Posted March 3, 2014 10:25 pm 


old guy

chavez too big and tough for GGG. Nothing against GGG, but just too far out of his division.

Posted March 3, 2014 10:21 pm 


Tomato Can

It’s good to see that Chavez is interested in the fight. This would be a good gage to see what GGG could do at 168, where all the real comp is.

Posted March 3, 2014 10:09 pm 


BUSTAJAY

@Joseph Herron

My guess is that one of the stipulations made by K2 would be to create a weight ceiling for Chavez on the day of the fight

Posted March 3, 2014 8:30 pm

That was going to be my question….they don’t want or desire to up with a Salido style fight….
Prayers out to GGG and the family

Posted March 3, 2014 10:08 pm 


Anonymous

@Joseph Herron

My guess is that one of the stipulations made by K2 would be to create a weight ceiling for Chavez on the day of the fight

Posted March 3, 2014 8:30 pm

That was going to be my question….they don’t want or desire to up with a Salido style fight….
Prayers out to GGG and the family

Posted March 3, 2014 10:08 pm 


Tomato Can

I like this fight at 168, but GGG should win it with out much trouble. If Vera could welt up Jr. GGG should be able to swell him up pretty bad, if not hurt him badly before Chavez starts breaking down.

Posted March 3, 2014 10:03 pm 


te tumbo

PUKE, what position does Stevens occupy on your personal P4P list? otherwise, I can name at least five middles more dangerous than Stevens.

Posted March 3, 2014 9:55 pm 


Yo MOMMA

“….GGG beats Chavez like a red headed step-child. And yes, the contract should stipulate a maximum fight night weight….”
__________________________________________
WHY? If GGG is guaranteed to beat Chavez why would anyone want a maximum weight limit on fight night?
Chavez has a great chin and it would be a great fight to watch.

Posted March 3, 2014 9:55 pm 


te tumbo

a matchup at 168lbs with NO weight-related clauses of any kind whatsoever is the only option for Jr. he can’t make a healthy 160lbs any more and as long as he makes the official weight, only he should have to worry about the calculated risk he takes by losing and/or rehydrating too much. i still haven’t seen Golovkin v. a truly top-notch or dangerous opponent or anybody heavier than 160lbs. accordingly, the nod goes to Jr. in a collision between the two at 168lbs. Golovkin is there to be hit and he’s yet to be Socked by a truly hard puncher, which Jr. is, Vera’s solid chin and jaw notwithstanding. i’d rather see Golovkin v. Canelo, Kirkland, or Lara at 154lbs or 160lbs BUT NO CATCHWEIGHTS. it’s time that Boxing snap out of it’s post-Pacquiao* stupor and reclaim the integrity of the sport from the promotional interests and the exotic conditions and novelty bouts that come with promotional domination of the sport.

Posted March 3, 2014 9:37 pm 


dwc

If GGG is willing to move up to fight Chavez JR. then he shouldnt have a problem facing Ward..Froch..Grove..or some of the top supermiddleweights.I like what I see in GGG but its time for some better fights from him…

Posted March 3, 2014 9:27 pm 


CurlyQ.Howard

GGG beats Chavez like a red headed step-child. And yes, the contract should stipulate a maximum fight night weight. As I see it, GGG stops Chavez with a body shot. So let’s see what comes to pass.

Posted March 3, 2014 9:22 pm 


T-Mellow

I hope Trip beats the stuffing out of Jr.

Posted March 3, 2014 9:22 pm 


Hidalg0

Gennady, please accept my condolences to you for the sudden loss of your father. I wish you and your family the best.

Posted March 3, 2014 9:20 pm 


soda popinski

i know they already fought but not like i wanted.i wonder who would in both there primes.a juiced manny paqiou or a prime cement glove margarito.

Posted March 3, 2014 9:19 pm 


Jonn E. JaGozza

I want this fight to happen but I think it will be the toughest fight for Chavez Jr. GGG will pursue Chavez all night long and Chavez at 6′-1″ is bigger and has the heritage from his Legendary father but, I have to give the nod to GGG because he’s so powerful and I haven’t seen Chavez really dominate anyone in quite sometime and the way he finished the fight with Vera, dancing and clowning around, he will NOT be able to pull that stuff on GGG. Chavez is going to have to fight for all 12 rounds and if I could tell him anthing, Man, work on you power punches, make him respect you early or you’ll be in the fight of your life, I wish you well… PEACE …Theboxingdictionary.com … “The Language of the Ring”

Posted March 3, 2014 9:18 pm 


Woop Woop

More excuses from GGG to not face a Middleweight. Andy Lee was a low pathetic ranking of #23 getting a shot at the titles that were handed to GGG. However, Andy Lee is a legitimate sized Middleweight and now GGG has found an excuse not to fight him. What a big surprise!!! Of course he needs over 4 weeks to mourn, just the right amount of time to not fight a true sized Middleweight. Every man and his dog has called out GGG in the last 18 months and all of those calls have gone unanswered. He is now not even committing to the ‘REAL’ Middleweight champ, Martinez coming up with further excuses. I’m sure come July there will be another blown up Welter/Jnr Middle for GGG to look good against. The hype train is losing momentum. Choooooo!!! cough*cough*splutter* Chooooo!!!

Posted March 3, 2014 9:05 pm 


soda popinski

my boy gets the munchies

Posted March 3, 2014 9:01 pm 


soda popinski

his chin hasnt been tested by a 200 plus chavez at fight night.

Posted March 3, 2014 9:01 pm 


Boxtradamus

At least GGG admits that he isn’t ready for Ward. Ward called him out at 168 and they said they’re focusing on 160. ..Chavez Jr. wants him at 168 and he’s ALL FOR IT. His actions speak louder than his WORDS. He isn’t the most feared. HE FEARS highly SKILLED opponents unless they provide the Biggest payday in the Sport (ie. Mayweather)

Posted March 3, 2014 8:46 pm 


Titopa

Fans tend to fall in love with a fighters power…they think he can stop anyone, but that’s not true, look at Lucas Matthysse, everyone predicted he’d stop Garcia…and look what happened. Not every fighter is going to fold, not every fighter will go down from one shot…especially a fighter with a proven chin and size.

Posted March 3, 2014 8:44 pm 


Titopa

Liver Shot – I’m not a Chavez Jr. fan, at all, but I don’t think GGG would crush him, Chavez Jr. has one of the best chins in boxing and we’ve yet to find out how well GGG can take a solid shot, we know Vera has a solid chin, not to mention, Chavez Jr. is about 25-35lbs bigger (naturally) than GGG and Chavez Jr. does hit pretty hard. This fight will happen at 168, I don’t think GGG will have an easy time.

Posted March 3, 2014 8:36 pm 


Joseph Herron

My guess is that one of the stipulations made by K2 would be to create a weight ceiling for Chavez on the day of the fight

Posted March 3, 2014 8:30 pm 


Joseph Herron

Yes…Loeffler did state that they would be willing to fight Chavez at 168 if the other important factors surrounding the fight could be negotiated and met mutually

Posted March 3, 2014 8:28 pm 


soda popinski

easy money for chavez, the fight will be at 168 but chavez will ballon and rehydrate to 268.

Posted March 3, 2014 8:25 pm 


Kid Hammer

Chavez Jr would most likely enter the ring at close to

200 lbs.

GGG is a small middle weight.

Gosh this one would be hard to predict.

Posted March 3, 2014 8:20 pm 


Alibaba

Time for GGG to shine, he is not getting any younger, if he wins against Chavez Jr, money will pouring in.

Posted March 3, 2014 8:11 pm 


Sant Flores

My prayers go out to GGG and his family and hope to see him in the ring soon.

Posted March 3, 2014 8:08 pm 


varnish

Chavez Jnr versus GGG is not a bad fight – I assume it would be at 168? Remember that GGG has not faced the level of opponents that Chavez has, and Chavez can take a shot and looked real good last weekend.

Posted March 3, 2014 7:59 pm 


Liver Shot

Jr headed for a beating if he fights GGG. If he gets hit as easy as Vera found him, GGG will crush him in 9 rounds.

Posted March 3, 2014 7:57 pm 



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