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TARK

Ray Ray…, You’re are not going to see Mosley fight Canelo at his peak.

The way it went down Canelo was 21 and Mosley was old… Canelo won 11 of 12 rounds from the judges… That’s the way I scored it also because Canelo was dominating.

We don’t know what Canelo’s going to be like in 7 years, but he’s going to get one HELL of a lot better than he is now.. He’s still green because he hasn’t had any amateur fights to speak of.

That’s why Chavez Jr is so crude… No amateur background.

Posted March 10, 2014 7:45 pm 


It’s Me, Ernie

Yup…

Posted March 10, 2014 4:12 pm 


Gonzo the Dragonborn aka The New Edgar Allan Poe (Thus Quoth the Vulture)

Bloody crappy brain

Edit> I think he should hang up his gloves while he’s still able to place them on the hook under his own volition

Posted March 10, 2014 11:50 am 


Gonzo the Dragonborn aka The New Edgar Allan Poe (Thus Quoth the Vulture)

Bloody crappy phone.

Edit> I think he should hang up his gloves while he’s still able to place the peg on the hook under his own volition

Posted March 10, 2014 11:49 am 


Gonzo the Dragonborn aka The New Edgar Allan Poe (Thus Quoth the Vulture)

lol Upper echelon Tier 2 post by Brother Turb0-H@mster there.

”Virgil Hunter should be put in a cannon and fired into a cage full of ravenous, highly trained, viagra-doped, super-elite r@pe-ferrets.

See if he can still spout this rubbish while contending with a fearsome spit-roasting at the paws of these voracious rodents.”

Posted March 10, 2014 11:10 am 


Gonzo the Dragonborn aka The New Edgar Allan Poe (Thus Quoth the Vulture)

Brother Hidalg0.. Angulo moves like Frankenstein’s monster rooted in cement now. All he knows how to do is trundle forward with the speed of a disable tortoise climbing up a steep hill and eat punches like he thinks they yield health giving properties. I think he should hang up his gloves while he’s still able to place the on the peg under his own volition. I actually felt really uncomfortable watching his head get pummelled around like that after only a few rounds.

Posted March 10, 2014 11:07 am 


Gonzo the Dragonborn aka The New Edgar Allan Poe (Thus Quoth the Vulture)

Hold on a sec.. I’m just eating a sausage sandwich. Will reply to other posts when I’m finished.

Posted March 10, 2014 10:52 am 


Gonzo the Dragonborn aka The New Edgar Allan Poe (Thus Quoth the Vulture)

Thank you Brother Octavius.. I’m somewhat of an expert at the art of making excellent points. Churning out elite level (aka Tier 2 and above), high quality posts by the bucket-load and making thought provoking salient points that get right to the crux of the debate is as synonymous with the name Gonzo on ESB as the name PEEJ is with fluffing Floyd’s @nal impaler 24/7/265.

Posted March 10, 2014 10:50 am 


te tumbo

Cotto turn down Canelo’s $10 million challenge and forfeit the “rivalry”. he’s obviously avoiding any more beatdowns from Mexican ring-warriors. if Cotto had been in the ring last Saturday night v. Canelo, the entire territory would still be in tears. Hell(?!), at least one very stupid and sore-losing island-boy has been crying and shouting continuously for the past three years(?!).

Posted March 10, 2014 10:15 am 


third world

it’s easy to hit someone when they are there to be hit. angulo looked out of sorts walking to the ring with his head down and was absolutely never in the fight. something not right. i have seen angulo hit with bombs that didn’t make him blink.

Posted March 10, 2014 8:07 am 


soda pop

if you gonna predict something stand by it, fu***** wierdo

Posted March 10, 2014 2:51 am 


soda popinski

Boxtradamus is a fu***** idiot, tell him soda said it.

Posted March 10, 2014 2:50 am 


punch

Lara vs Canelo is an even fight. If Lara comes to box he wins if he lets Canelo control the fight he loses. It all depends on who can execute their game plan effectively. I’ll give Canelo the edge because having fought Floyd there’s nothing Lara can surprise him with.

Posted March 10, 2014 1:32 am 


Another Sad day for Pactards

Because they really do know how much of a good fighter he is. They just like to throw him under the bus.
So the excuse now is Canelo was never ready for Floyd. But now he is.

Posted March 10, 2014 12:51 am 


Mike Tyson

Why is nobody talking about canelo fighting the winner of the cotto and Martinez fight 159 catch weight?
Canelo surely can reach 159 lb for martinez or arrange a catch weight lower for cotto. That would be a good fight to see where he stand.

Posted March 10, 2014 12:44 am 


Ray Ray

Tark-ur dreaming….both @ peak…Mosley beats Alvarez. How do no when Alvarez is going 2 peak? Lets wait until he fights a few more big names b4 we start predicting Canelo’s peak….he might get busted, or hurt. He may have peaked already? He b a Hopkins @ 40yrs old…who no’s?

Posted March 10, 2014 12:39 am 


Boxtradamus

Canelo WON by ENTERTAINING stoppage just as I predicted!!!!!! I am the GREATEST Fight Prophet ever born!!!!!

Posted March 9, 2014 11:26 pm 


Shuja Morain

You know Hec Dog that Demons are angels to just bad ones. So yes you are right the City of Angels did welcome a person in the same light as it’s corrupt, dirty, drug infested, greedy lying self that lies beneath the glorious, star studded glamor it presents to the world.

Posted March 9, 2014 10:42 pm 


Hec Dog

Manny Pacquiao created a mob scene as he arrived in Los Angeles to do final preparations for his fight against Timothy Bradley. The City appropriately called the “City of Angels” has welcomed a true Angel in Manny Pacquiao. For the next month, Los Angeles will turn execute new routes, build new roads and relocate law enforcement in order to serve and protect the ONLY 8 division Boxing Champion in history. This is what happens when a prominent figure such as Manny Pacquiao makes his entrance to any city in the world. There were more people at the airport waiting to see Manny Pacquiao than were at last night’s one sided beat down of Alfredo Angulo. There was practically no media at Floyd Mayweather’s laughable press conference to announce his fight against Maidana, another Angulo type fighter. The truth is that Manny Pacquiao rules boxing and has been doing so for the better part of 10 years. Why you ask? Because Manny never ducked any fighter. He has earned sincere respect from the boxing world as well as the world in general. His upcoming fight against Bradley will add to his PPV records, which he does all by himself. Manny doesn’t need additional under cards to be a success. Go to Las Vegas the week of the fight, and you will see a transformation like never before. They should just call Las Vegas Manny Pacquiao’s House. His appeal is measureless in terms of the positive impact he has on the economy and the well being of people. Everyone is at peace, happy, and people spend money. Manny Pacquiao is a type of emperor that transforms from a killer inside the ring to a kitten outside of it. Like all athletes, boxers careers all come to an end. Many have said that Manny’s career is close to ending, but they’re wrong. Manny is a special person that can do the impossible because of his unwavering faith. They say he hasn’t knocked out anyone in years. They say he was knocked out and will never recover, but he did more than that. he came out of the hands of death and put on display a magnificent display of boxing as he outclassed Brandon Rios. Manny put all doubts to rest as he electrified the crowd in Macau China with his extraordinary boxing performance for the ages. Manny is now in fight mode as he will capture the world’s attention and regain in stunning fashion yet another world title. Better yet, Manny is rumored to present another quality singing performance at another casino. The world belongs to Manny, and no one can stop him. Trust me, Manny beats them all from 147-160. Also, keep your eyes open for the much anticipated movie documentary “Manny.” This documentary will be a life changing experience. Manny is the best.

Posted March 9, 2014 2:50 pm

Posted March 9, 2014 10:13 pm 


Jonn E. JaGozza

Call it what it was, Canelo looked good and Angulo should hang em up or risk being brain damaged
if he continues. This fight reminded me a lot of the Pacquio/ Rios fight… That fight was a mismatch and was worse then the fight last night, but Angulo was done and fighting on instinct and pride only.. Canelo was fresh at the end .. I can’t say the same for Angulo who looked defeated and old, and at age 31 ( A VERY OLD 31 ) … PEACE … Theboxingdictionary.com .. “The Language of the Ring “

Posted March 9, 2014 9:28 pm 


TARK

But a peak Alvarez would beat a peak Mosley.

Posted March 9, 2014 9:13 pm 


TARK

Ray Ray.., “Mosley lost but landed some great shots v Canelo. If he was younger would have killed Alvarez.”

Saul was 21 when he fought Mosley… He won’t reach his peak for another 7 years. The way he fought last night he wouldn’t have beaten any Mosley ever.

Posted March 9, 2014 9:12 pm 


soda popinski

the kid has ducked no one yet he warents hate?its one thing not to like a person lets say for being arrogant or even protected but no look at his last 3 opponants…mayweather, trout and angulo,and both williams and kirkland couldve been added to the list but to no fault of his own it didnt get made so now i ask….state your case for the hate, realistically.

Posted March 9, 2014 9:03 pm 


soda popinski

i want to point out some fact,canelo fought trout and won, or if you want to dispute the win its okay, whats important is that he fought him.he fought mayweather even at a weight of 152 but at his age he took on the best.he was in line to fight paul williams and we know why that fight didnt take place.he was in line to fight kirkland and they didnt fight because of kirkland demanding more money or have promotional issues with gbp.the point of this post is that he has and was in line to fight the very best and for a kid his age thats more than impressive.if you can find reasons to hate this kid its very simple. your either a hater or are jelous of his accomplishments.

Posted March 9, 2014 9:02 pm 


The Prince

Floyd ran from Canelo? Sorry, ESB haters, that’s not going to cut it. I suggest you watch the fight again if you’re fragile egos can handle it. Not only did Floyd not run from Canelo, he backed into the ropes intentionally during rounds and Canelo was still missing his shots and getting countered.

Posted March 9, 2014 8:07 pm 


Ray Ray

A Canelo win v Lara would b his biggest of his career? If Canelo wins. Floyd whooped him. Trout gave him trouble, Mosley lost but landed some great shots v Canelo. If he was younger would have killed Alvarez. I c a pattern of what type of guy can trouble Canelo….if Canelo could get past Lara it would b a massive step in his career….

Posted March 9, 2014 7:01 pm 


Tomato Can

Lara/Alvarez sounds like the next logical match up to me. I doubt it happens though.

Posted March 9, 2014 6:55 pm 


Ray Ray

What next 4 Alvarez? Has 2 b Lara doesn’t it? It’s going 2 b hard 4 Alvarez @ 160 I think there’s only trouble there 4 him. Lara v Canelo would b a great fight….

Posted March 9, 2014 6:46 pm 


Tomato Can

I too think Angulo seemed abnormally sluggish in last nights fight. But Alvarez lit him up right from the opening seconds of the fight. Angulo priced to be tailor made for Alvarez.

Posted March 9, 2014 6:37 pm 


Tomato Can

“”Hidalg0

Hec Dog, you are a lost soul. Manny Pacquiao is no angel and certainly not a “true” one. Los Angeles isn’t going to build any new roads for him either–the city is having budget woes as it is. But that’s as much of your post that I read or am going to read, and it’s much, much more than I usually read of your truly rambling nonsense because what I usually read is none of them. You would be doing us all a great favor if you would just stop. Because I assure you, at least 95% of the people on these forums don’t read your long-winded chants and sermons.””……..spot in post…. See we even agree on some things here… Lmao

Posted March 9, 2014 6:32 pm 


Hidalg0

Additionally, Angulo usually moves better and quicker. No, I’m not saying he’s quick, but last night he was downright lethargic both offensively and defensively. I think he was weight drained.

Posted March 9, 2014 6:25 pm 


Hidalg0

““….The difference in this fight was the explosive body work that Canelo implemented within the first 30 seconds of the fight. It really slowed Angulo’s activity and took a lot of steam out of his usually heavy artillery….””

I don’t agree. Normally, Angulo is tough enough and resilient enough to take more hard shots than that. He just wasn’t there last night. Canelo saw that, and took advantage of it.

Posted March 9, 2014 6:24 pm 


Hidalg0

“I haven’t seen that many of Angulo’s fights but I seem to recall his punches were more snappy in his younger days, whereas the one we’ve of his last two fights seemed to have been pushing most of his shots out.”

He certainly moved better as well, Gonzo, and with purpose. Last night he didn’t look like he had the strength to throw a punch from the moment the fight started.

Posted March 9, 2014 6:23 pm 


Sheriff Joe’s chicken

“….The difference in this fight was the explosive body work that Canelo implemented within the first 30 seconds of the fight. It really slowed Angulo’s activity and took a lot of steam out of his usually heavy artillery….”

I AGREE. Canelo came on strong at the start and took the steam right out of Angulo and that’s why he couldnt do much. A smart move on Canelo’s team. Suppresive fire.

Posted March 9, 2014 6:02 pm 


Yo MOMMA

Canelo is a BEAST!!! There was no point in letting Angulo getting beat up. Bet LARA is thinking ” Damn , I was dropped and even I couln’t stop el Perro Angulo like that!”

Posted March 9, 2014 5:48 pm 


Gonzo the Dragonborn aka The New Edgar Allan Poe (Thus Quoth the Vulture)

Angulo looked slow and devoid of power because:

1. He’s a human punch bag and there are many miles on his clock due to the unmerciful punishment he’s taken over the course of his career, both in the ring and in the gym.

2. Because he could possibly have been suffering the effects of weight draining.

3. Because Virgil Hunter has got him doing too much strength trainer and it has dulled his speed and taken the snap out of his punches.

I haven’t seen that many of Angulo’s fights but I seem to recall his punches were more snappy in his younger days, whereas the one we’ve of his last two fights seemed to have been pushing most of his shots out.

Posted March 9, 2014 5:42 pm 


Gallinas de Puerco Chico

Anonymous= Public Enemy. His retarded statements of a fixed fight make it more obvious. Meanwhile back in Puto Rico….

Posted March 9, 2014 5:36 pm 


Gonzo the Dragonborn aka The New Edgar Allan Poe (Thus Quoth the Vulture)

Edit> one of them

Posted March 9, 2014 5:34 pm 


Gonzo the Dragonborn aka The New Edgar Allan Poe (Thus Quoth the Vulture)

PEEJ.. No, you agreed with both of those posts of mine but you were only willing to admit to agreeing with one of the publicly.

Posted March 9, 2014 5:33 pm 


ZKO

This is one of those times where you’d have to be a boxer to understand. Angulo looked pretty good in his workouts and the combinations he was throwing at the punching bag. But as Bruce Lee said “boards don’t hit back”… and as Tyson said “everyone’s got a plan until they get punched in the face”. Canelo made Angulo look as bad as he did against Mayweather. Maybe that fight will turn out to be a blessing in Canelo’s career.

Posted March 9, 2014 5:28 pm 


te tumbo

“here’s the intelligence behind Angulo ‘s plan… throw the fight and get paid” but after 10 rounds of being SOCKED with impunity, Angulo still didn’t feel that he had taken a powershot hard enough to justify dropping and giving-up. not even with an assist from the unwitting ref(?!). uh-huh(?). that “intelligence” sounds about Stupid.

Posted March 9, 2014 5:24 pm 


Matador

A fix? You have proof, of course?

What is asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. Have a nice day.

Posted March 9, 2014 5:05 pm 


Steve w

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Boxtradamus predicted

Saul will be easy work for Alfredo. KO in 5. All my haters will be singing the praise of the greatest fight prophet EVER born.

Posted March 9, 2014 5:05 pm 


PEEJ

So apparently all of GGGs opponents threw the fights and so did Kovalevs opponents since most of the time they never lost the way the lost against those fighters. Now it is all starting to make since.

Posted March 9, 2014 4:59 pm 


James

Deportation is needed for Perro for being involved in a fix fight. And keep Canelo also from coming back to the States for being part of this b.s. Forget this b.s. of a cash cow for golden boy & show time..

Posted March 9, 2014 4:15 pm 


PEEJ

Yep, if you call standing right in front of someone and hitting them with punches while they miss theirs running. Then that is exactly what Floyd did.

Posted March 9, 2014 4:01 pm 


te tumbo

can’t get my original and funnier message posted (f’n inscrutable filters) but Yes. the pacific remains intact.

Posted March 9, 2014 3:28 pm 


PEEJ

That is true to Hidalg0. I read the first couple of words and then stop

Posted March 9, 2014 3:19 pm 


Hidalg0

te tumbo, please step outside your front door and see if God has parted the Pacific Ocean so Pacquiao could jog over instead of having to fly over from the Philippines. After all, he’s so great, why wouldn’t the man want to run all that distance?

Posted March 9, 2014 3:19 pm 


PEEJ

He is not an 8 division champ. He is actually a 7 division titlest. And who cares about him showing up to LAX. We will see how PPV sales go and who is actually cheering for him in the fight. His last 2 Marquez fights it was clearly a pro Marquez crowd.

Posted March 9, 2014 3:17 pm 


Hidalg0

Hec Dog, you are a lost soul. Manny Pacquiao is no angel and certainly not a “true” one. Los Angeles isn’t going to build any new roads for him either–the city is having budget woes as it is. But that’s as much of your post that I read or am going to read, and it’s much, much more than I usually read of your truly rambling nonsense because what I usually read is none of them. You would be doing us all a great favor if you would just stop. Because I assure you, at least 95% of the people on these forums don’t read your long-winded chants and sermons.

Posted March 9, 2014 3:16 pm 


te tumbo

HECDOG, i live and work in Los Angeles. today is the L.A. marathon (missed it again!?!), which explains street closures. Pacquiao’s* arrival wasn’t even mentioned in the sports section, never mind the front page of anything else. Do You Understand? I’m Here. Right Now. Nothing you describe is actually happening. you, my friend, are truly delusional.

Posted March 9, 2014 3:12 pm 


Hec Dog

Manny Pacquiao created a mob scene as he arrived in Los Angeles to do final preparations for his fight against Timothy Bradley. The City appropriately called the “City of Angels” has welcomed a true Angel in Manny Pacquiao. For the next month, Los Angeles will turn execute new routes, build new roads and relocate law enforcement in order to serve and protect the ONLY 8 division Boxing Champion in history. This is what happens when a prominent figure such as Manny Pacquiao makes his entrance to any city in the world. There were more people at the airport waiting to see Manny Pacquiao than were at last night’s one sided beat down of Alfredo Angulo. There was practically no media at Floyd Mayweather’s laughable press conference to announce his fight against Maidana, another Angulo type fighter. The truth is that Manny Pacquiao rules boxing and has been doing so for the better part of 10 years. Why you ask? Because Manny never ducked any fighter. He has earned sincere respect from the boxing world as well as the world in general. His upcoming fight against Bradley will add to his PPV records, which he does all by himself. Manny doesn’t need additional under cards to be a success. Go to Las Vegas the week of the fight, and you will see a transformation like never before. They should just call Las Vegas Manny Pacquiao’s House. His appeal is measureless in terms of the positive impact he has on the economy and the well being of people. Everyone is at peace, happy, and people spend money. Manny Pacquiao is a type of emperor that transforms from a killer inside the ring to a kitten outside of it. Like all athletes, boxers careers all come to an end. Many have said that Manny’s career is close to ending, but they’re wrong. Manny is a special person that can do the impossible because of his unwavering faith. They say he hasn’t knocked out anyone in years. They say he was knocked out and will never recover, but he did more than that. he came out of the hands of death and put on display a magnificent display of boxing as he outclassed Brandon Rios. Manny put all doubts to rest as he electrified the crowd in Macau China with his extraordinary boxing performance for the ages. Manny is now in fight mode as he will capture the world’s attention and regain in stunning fashion yet another world title. Better yet, Manny is rumored to present another quality singing performance at another casino. The world belongs to Manny, and no one can stop him. Trust me, Manny beats them all from 147-160. Also, keep your eyes open for the much anticipated movie documentary “Manny.” This documentary will be a life changing experience. Manny is the best.

Posted March 9, 2014 3:05 pm 


bigfig

Canelo is like a blow up doll. If I was Cotto or Martinez, I would not fight this dude. For all the many time he came in weighting 170 lbs or more he needs to be fighter super middleweight. He got no love from his Mexican crowd even though he look great against a fixed zombie.

Posted March 9, 2014 3:00 pm 


PEEJ

Floyd stood right in front of Canelo. Lara can’t do that. He will be beat by Canelo.

Posted March 9, 2014 2:53 pm 


bigfig

This fight was fixed. This fight had an eerie feeling to it when the WBC president is talking to a fighter before the fight. It reminded me of when Trinidad fought Hopkins and the NY boxing commissioner went to Trinidad locker room to talk before the fight. Both Angulo and Trinidad fought coming forward punching with out intention and with the look on there face of sadness and discuss.

Posted March 9, 2014 2:51 pm 


te tumbo

i watched the Lara v. Angulo live and Angulo looked like old-school claymation. Angulo looked a bit better in the broadcast but if Lara had trouble containing that, he really doesn’t stand a chance v. Canelo’s explosive leads and combos . . . i really want to see it.

Posted March 9, 2014 2:46 pm 


PEEJ

Lara isn’t picking Canelo apart for 12 rounds. Lara would be eating combos from Canelo. Having issues with Molina and Vanes proves this. Especially having issues with Angulo. I know styles make fights and Canelo style is wrong for Lara. He throws hard punches and a few at a time.

Posted March 9, 2014 2:40 pm 


PEEJ

I only agreed with your first post, not your second one

Posted March 9, 2014 2:30 pm 


Gonzo the Dragonborn aka The New Edgar Allan Poe (Thus Quoth the Vulture)

And ROFL @ Virgil Hunter’s bout of verbal diarrhea during the post-fight interview. ”Of course I’m angry the fight was stopped! Everybody knows Angulo was coming on strong! *tries to rally some support from the pro El Perro crowd* EVERYBODY KNOWS ANGULO WAS COMING ON STRONG!!”

Er, no he wasn’t. The only thing he was going to do was take more punishment and put at risk of being turned into a vegetable. He’d lost literally every round and there’s nothing to suggest he was going to be able to turn it around in his favour. Not a damn thing.

And lol him wearing a RIP Jose Sulaiman T-shirt. First he associates or endorses himself with Victor Conte, then James Prince, and now Sulaiman. Who’s next? Kim Jong-un? ROFL.

Posted March 9, 2014 2:23 pm 


Anonymous

lara another hype job.

Posted March 9, 2014 2:18 pm 


Livershot

Bring back same day weigh ins and put an end to all this “BS”! Put an end to catch weight fights as well. You are either in that weight class or not. Punish the fighters who fail to make weight by giving up half their purse or better yet cancel the fight and everybody loses. I don’t want to hear the fighters health is at risk. The fighters health wouldn’t be at risk if they were in great shape and fighting in their proper weight division. Alvarez and Chavez would be in heavier divisions instead of fighting smaller fighters. Do away with the promoters as well, they corrupt boxing and don’t make the fights that should be made. Boxing resembles the WWF but at least we know the matches are predetermined but are entertained for a soild 2-3 hours. I’m going to start keeping track of promoters fighters and how they are handled by the refs and judges. The ref did everything but punch Vera in the Chavez/Vera fight. Stop the madness.

Posted March 9, 2014 2:17 pm 


Ron1n

This fight was FISHY as hell. How did Perro become a puppy overnight?Angulo was pawing from the start of the fight and looked to me like he was holding back.

Some say he’s shot but come on man.It’s like he was light sparring most of the time. Angulo’s next fight will show me where he’s really at.

Posted March 9, 2014 2:13 pm 


Gonzo the Dragonborn aka The New Edgar Allan Poe (Thus Quoth the Vulture)

Of course you’re in agreement with me, PEEJ. Everybody is whether they’re prepared to admit it or not. The only people who ever disagree with me only do so to to go against the grain. Because for some strange reason they think it makes them look cool and edgy. Gonzo is always right on point. The only languages he speaketh are truth and wisdom. Gonzo is the grain.

And yes, the catchweight did affect Canelo. BADLY! He was but a mere shell of himself against Floyd and deep down even dog brain/ch!mp intellect you knows it too. I’ve already schooled you on this and there literally is no disputing it anymore. The evidence is not only totally overwhelming, it’s completely incontestable too. Please don’t make me have to pop another Viagra and go r@pe city on you @ss.

And even if you don’t believe in fighters making excuses, your grotesque soon to be dead chicken bollocked messiah Floyd sure as hell does when he’s trying to discredit his rivals. Check mate. ROFL.

”I would never want to put a fighter in a position where he’s not comfortable. I want a guy when he’s at his best. If he’s at his best at 154 and he’s strong and he’s solid, then that’s the fight we’re fighting at. I walk around at 150, but at the end of the day – skills pay the bills…. Give me the guys where they are comfortable at their weight so there are no excuses.”

–Floyd Mayweather, February of 2012.

Posted March 9, 2014 2:10 pm 


Hec Dog

Eryslandy Lara will pick Canelo apart for 12 rounds. Don’t let last nights massacre fool you guys into thinking Canelo improved or developed more. He was in against a human punching bag that offered ZERO challenges. Canelo knew what he had in front of him as he tried showing off his defense, which I guarantee you he would never do that kind of show boating against Lara, And Lara getting dropped by Angulo in a tough scrap will have no impact when he fights Canelo. Lara is a skilled boxing technician that has a southpaw style that will give Canelo fits. Canelo has the same habits over and over and he telegraphs all of his punches. He could afford to do that against Angulo, but against Lara he will get hammered. Canelo uses the same single jab, good wide left hook, and he tries to sneak in the right uppercut that can be seen miles away. Lara is slick, and will have a field day with canelo. Angulo was hitting him with jabs. It’s much easier to fight a guy that has skills rather than a guy that only comes at you wild. Angulo doesn’t box, feint, throw crisp sharp combinations, and he has no movement or defense. Lara is the complete opposite. Trust me, Lara will dismantle Canelo if and when they fight. Lara is a seasoned amateur fighter that knows all the styles. Canelo’s style is perfect for him to tear apart. Canelo will be swinging at air, and he will get peppered with the jab and straight left hand. I could go on forever on how Lara destroys Canelo, but you’ll see it yourselves if and when the fight happens. I don’t think Canelo wants any part of Lara.

Posted March 9, 2014 1:48 pm

Posted March 9, 2014 2:07 pm 


Who cares

GGG is an HBO fighter, as is Martinez. I’m really curious as to how GBP will manage Canelo’s career over the next few fights. I am confident that they will not put Canelo in with Golovkin and state promotional differences as the reason why. I think Canelo will most likely end up fighting Danny Jacobs or Peter Quillin. Maybe even a trout rematch. I doubt GBP will put Canelo in with Lara either. Canelo is a solid fighter but I just don’t know how good he will be if he is fighting guys his own natural size.

Posted March 9, 2014 2:00 pm 


albeziel

Also think that Lara will give Canelo a lot of problems, the guy moves a lot, Lara is not easy for anyone

Posted March 9, 2014 1:58 pm 


HHLondon

I don’t know what all the fuss is about Lara.

Tired of hearing how Floyds ducking Lara, Alverez would get schooled by Lara …..

Based on what exactly?

Posted March 9, 2014 1:56 pm 


PEEJ

Thats what happens when you get caught early with hard punches to the head and body. Takes a lot out of you.

Posted March 9, 2014 1:56 pm 


albeziel

After seeing how Angulo was throwing all those soft punches in the 1st round I was not surprised of how it ended

Posted March 9, 2014 1:53 pm 


PEEJ

Lara gets a beat down from Canelo. The same Lara that fought Moline, Vanes and Angulo catch a beat down.

Posted March 9, 2014 1:51 pm 


steve w

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Boxtradamus

Saul will be easy work for Alfredo. KO in 5. All my haters will be singing the praise of the greatest fight prophet EVER born.

Posted March 9, 2014 1:47 pm 


steve w

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Boxtradamus predicted

Saul will be easy work for Alfredo. KO in 5. All my haters will be singing the praise of the greatest fight prophet EVER born.

Posted March 9, 2014 1:46 pm 


Hec Dog

Eryslandy Lara will pick Canelo apart for 12 rounds. Don’t let last nights massacre fool you guys into thinking Canelo improved or developed more. He was in against a human punching bag that offered ZERO challenges. Canelo knew what he had in front of him as he tried showing off his defense, which I guarantee you he would never do that kind of show boating against Lara, And Lara getting dropped by Angulo in a tough scrap will have no impact when he fights Canelo. Lara is a skilled boxing technician that has a southpaw style that will give Canelo fits. Canelo has the same habits over and over and he telegraphs all of his punches. He could afford to do that against Angulo, but against Lara he will get hammered. Canelo uses the same single jab, good wide left hook, and he tries to sneak in the right uppercut that can be seen miles away. Lara is slick, and will have a field day with canelo. Angulo was hitting him with jabs. It’s much easier to fight a guy that has skills rather than a guy that only comes at you wild. Angulo doesn’t box, feint, throw crisp sharp combinations, and he has no movement or defense. Lara is the complete opposite. Trust me, Lara will dismantle Canelo if and when they fight. Lara is a seasoned amateur fighter that knows all the styles. Canelo’s style is perfect for him to tear apart. Canelo will be swinging at air, and he will get peppered with the jab and straight left hand. I could go on forever on how Lara destroys Canelo, but you’ll see it yourselves if and when the fight happens. I don’t think Canelo wants any part of Lara.

Posted March 9, 2014 1:46 pm 


gray

i could never work out how Americans can believe that the US sent a man to the moon in 1969 but then i listen to showtime commentary involving a GBP fighter and they will truly believe anything that’s told to them

Posted March 9, 2014 1:45 pm 


PEEJ

Even the score cards were close in that Lara vs Angulo fight. Not the case in the Angulo vs Canelo fight.

Posted March 9, 2014 1:38 pm 


PEEJ

He was actually able to land his punches pretty constantly. Was on his way to stopping Lara except for Lara stopped him first. Angulo could do nothing to Canelo. The way Lara said he did better than Canelo against Trout is the same thing Canelo did to Angulo that Lara couldn’t do.

Posted March 9, 2014 1:36 pm 


Anonymous

I just hope they give Angulo a good long rest and some really good assessments before he is allowed back into a boxing ring. PACMAN shattered MARGARITO’s eye and it looks like Angulo’s eye will be a permanent target for all of his future opponents.

Posted March 9, 2014 1:34 pm 


Tomato Can

Lara/Canelo is the logical next fight for these two. That us if Canelo still wants to fight at 154. That one would be for a title so Canelo would have to make weight if he wants the title.

Posted March 9, 2014 1:34 pm 


Anonymous

alvarez will never beat a mover. he”s footwork is as fast as herman munster.

Posted March 9, 2014 1:33 pm 


Anonymous

Dante’s post at 10:45 am 9 March has the beat.

Posted March 9, 2014 1:31 pm 


Tomato Can

Peej, “Still trying to figure how Angulo was a punching bag for Canelo but he wasn’t for Lara.” Actually, was a punching bag against Lara as well. He just fought back more. And landed a couple huge left hooks. Other than that Lara beat on him like a drum too.

Posted March 9, 2014 1:31 pm 


PEEJ

I don’t think GGG looks like Angulo vs Canelo. GGG isn’t as fast as Canelo. And Chavez isn’t as slow as Angulo. I still think GGG wins though but I think it will go 12 and I also think Chavez will land a few punches of his own because of his chin and size.

Posted March 9, 2014 1:19 pm 


PEEJ

Not to sure if Martinez is still contracted to HBO but he might be. I think they are hoping Cotto beats Martinez. I am hoping the same thing myself. Martinez is overrated. But also none of the fighters GGG has fought actually brings money to the table. Team GGG is the ones paying them. So if that is the case then I am sure they would be willing to pay Lara also. But it is the fact that HBO doesn’t work with Golden Boy. I am sure team GGG have no issues with Golden Boy. That is all HBO.

Posted March 9, 2014 1:18 pm 


TARK

The ending was fine. I probably would have let it go another few punches. You can let a guy get punched into the canvas. But that is not good for him or for Boxing.

You saw the Kovalev-Cleverly fight, where the referee carried Cleverly to his corner following the 3rd round, and his corner stupidly talked Cleverly into coming out for the 4th — when he didn’t have a prayer on Earth of winning. Now Cleverly seemingly won’t fight. That extra unnecessary punishment seemed to destroy his ring personality. Destroy him as a boxer with any future at 28 … and only one loss. This was Angulo’s 4th big loss but now he still has a future at 31.

Posted March 9, 2014 1:11 pm 


Jerry Lewis

GGG KO Floyd at 154 too!

Posted March 9, 2014 1:10 pm 


Jerry Lewis

Canelo-GGG good fight too, y’all!

Posted March 9, 2014 1:05 pm 


Jerry Lewis

Canelo-Floyd 2!

Posted March 9, 2014 1:03 pm 


PEEJ

Nope their can’t be a way for the fight to be made. Canelo would have to be on a list of opponents approved by HBO. If Lara can’t make the list of approved opponents what makes you think Canelo will? HBO does not do any business with Golden Boy. Only way it could be made is if they are mandatories for a belt either one is holding.

Posted March 9, 2014 12:56 pm 


Kid Hammer

Jim right.

Not big fan of Mayweather Sr; he thinks this fight smells fishy.

Posted March 9, 2014 12:53 pm 


Jim Rich

Angulo was never going to win, I already knew that before the fight. This fight was just to build up alvarez for his next big fight. Angulo was there to be beatup. Good stoppage, save angulo from further brain damage and the fans from having to watch the rest of a crumby fight.

Posted March 9, 2014 12:48 pm 


te tumbo

desperate double-standard but as long as it results in Lara being matched-up v. Canelo, I support it.

Posted March 9, 2014 12:46 pm 


PEEJ

Still trying to figure how Angulo was a punching bag for Canelo but he wasn’t for Lara.

Posted March 9, 2014 12:45 pm 


te tumbo

“anyone looks impressive hitting a punching bag!!” but Lara didn’t. in fact, he looked downright vulnerable and if ThaT version ever stepped-up too last-night’s version of Canelo, Lara would KTFO in 10. Alvarez simply too big, strong, fast, and aggressive for Lara to remain standing. i mean, Lara was dropped for the first and second time of his career by a plodding statue(?!). Wtf do you think a hard-charging and powershotting Canelo would to in the same situation? . . . I Agree. I want to see it.

Posted March 9, 2014 12:44 pm 


badger

well canelo is with Showtime and GGG is with HBO which means that there are contractual issues to deal with these promoters.

Posted March 9, 2014 12:42 pm 


te tumbo

that only factor that will bolster Angulo’s ability is blazing the trail to 160lbs. he’s looked depleted still making 154lbs and even though that depleted version of Angulo was enough to drop all-out War on a fading Lara, he’s simply not safe at that weight any more. at any weight, i don’t see him rising above gatekeeper status but he’s still capable of some mayhem v. the right and unaware opponent. Canelo’s move in the same direction is imminent. a lot of capable comp beginning to consolidate at 160lbs.

Posted March 9, 2014 12:41 pm 


PEEJ

Yeah I agree, Lara would not beat Canelo. The same Lara that should of taken an L against Molina and drew with Vanes and went back and forth with Angulo would not beat Canelo.

Posted March 9, 2014 12:35 pm 


te tumbo

Angulo’s too tough for his own good. he was hopelessly behind and Canelo was simply power-shotting him at the point of the stoppage. besides, Virgil was warning Angulo that he wasn’t gonna let him take much more damage between rounds. a responsible if not popular stoppage. Paulie said it best when he compared it to “Mago’s” situation in a more competitive brawl. Canelo made his point. Angulo (nor Lara) are in his league but he’s prepared to Sock’em Up if that’s what they’re looking for. let’s be honest, Lara would not have lasted 10 rounds v. last night’s version of Canelo, but let’s make that bout happen at 160lbs. a build-up to Golovkin or Martinez or whoever is available.

Posted March 9, 2014 12:33 pm 


Anonymous

Canelo looks real good hitting a heavy bag. Now he’s talking about fighting old man Cotto. Bring on Lara!

Posted March 9, 2014 12:31 pm 


Cambino

Definitely a fix.

Posted March 9, 2014 12:25 pm 


PEEJ

There was no fixed fight. And Canelo can’t fight GGG for the simple fact that GGG is an HBO fighter. Just like the reason he can’t fight Lara is the same reason he won’t be able to fight Canelo. He will not be on the list of approved opponents that HBO gives them

Posted March 9, 2014 12:19 pm 


Dino

Angulo should never be on PPV ever again. I can’t believe I got suckerd again to pay for this crap.

Posted March 9, 2014 12:11 pm 


bonbon

To one sided to be a good fight and can’t judge how good Alvarez was because Angulo was so bad, slow motion replays are faster than what he was thowing. Strange to watch at times.

Posted March 9, 2014 12:00 pm 


TJ

I FORGOT TO add that the so-called medical reasons to increase the time for fighters to rehydrate from the morning of the fight to 30hours or so was to assist in rehydration of fighters as the lack of fluids in the body was a probable cause to injuries to weight-weakened fighters becoming more susceptible to brain injuries and even death in fights.

However, I doubt they realised that some guys can cut weight by up to 30 lbs and then with increased time rehydrate say from the 154lb limit to weighing nearly 180 the next evening, whereas a true 154 guy would probably weigh 160lb on fight night.

To my mind this is as dangerous as a man cutting to 154 and only replenishing 3/4 lbs the same day, but evened out by fighting a guy who is at or around the same fightnight weight of 160!

Getting hit by a naturally bigger guy will wear you down no matter how good you are and with a massive weight advantage of say 14-20 lbs it will be just as gruelling as having a shorter time to rehydrate, because both guys are in the same boat.

This is just my opinion and I have sparred with a guy who out weighted me by well over 50 lbs and I will tell you I did not give him any opportunities to tee off on me…. I value my health too much!!!

Posted March 9, 2014 11:48 am 


Dave

I think the stoppage was good, Angulo was done and getting hurt. Saul is like a slab of cow meat and Angulo tried to go straight through him, and the results show. All in all great fights on the whole card.

Posted March 9, 2014 11:48 am 


Boxtradamus

Just EXACTLY like I predicted, Canelo stops Angulo by TKO. I remain the greatest fight prophet EVER born!!!

Posted March 9, 2014 11:42 am 


Love-the-Sport

Alvarez is a midget at 160 pounds. He is 5’7″. He is a fat midget with fast hands.

Martin Murray looked good against Martinez — but he has not been tested against other elite fighters yet.

You might be right and Murray is a good / great fighter. Don’t know yet.

But Alvarez — JUST LIKE FLOYD — is not going to take any chances. He is going to take the fights that make money with the least risk. The only risk I see is Alvarez vs. Cotto — otherwise, Alvarez will take the weak fights at 160 and probably nothing else at 154. Moving up in weight gives Alvarez an excuse to take on weaker opposition.

Posted March 9, 2014 11:41 am 


PEEJ

Angulo wasn’t a human punching bag for the so called best at 154 in Lara. Though he is not the best at 154. It was a good stoppage though.

Posted March 9, 2014 11:38 am 


TJ

Cheatin Chihuahuas De Messyhoe

TOTALLY AGREE WITH you re same-day weigh-ins.

The WBC championed this bogus check weigh-in at appropriate times of camp and in the weeks and days prior to the fight, but this simply does not seem to have worked.

I would advocate a televised check weigh-in 24-36 hours before the fight. This will identify a stipulated percentage that a fighter must be within the fight/ contract limit and would be a good indicator as to who is trying to make weight and who is trying to cheat.

The medics can then give their opinions as to whether or not it is safe for a boxer to fight another man who has come in out of this weight ratio, as to my understanding this is supposed to be the reason why we no longer have same-day weigh-ins!!!

We can then go back to the Official same-day weigh-in on the morning of the fight, which in my opinion would be far more exciting as these guys know that they will be fighting each other literally a few hours from that morning and will even the playing field as fighters will then have to compete in their correct weight divisions instead of ballooning up and down like yo-you to get significant advantages over the other guy!

I really can’t see the problems with bringing back same-day weigh-ins and to satisfy TV companies and promoters a check-weigh-in only adds to the drama and controversy of fight-week.

It’s a no-brainier for me!

Posted March 9, 2014 11:38 am 


Hecdog

Angulo was a human punching bag. He was on his way to being stopped. Great stoppage. We don’t want another death in the ring. Canelo did what he was suppose to do, but he will have problems with guys that can actually fight or box or use any boxing technique. Angulo was tough and that’s it.

Posted March 9, 2014 11:35 am 


PEEJ

You consider Martin Murray a lower tier fighter? Na can’t agree with that. I think Canelo would do pretty good at 160. Don’t think he beats GGG but I think he will handle himself pretty well. I would like to see Canelo go ahead and beat Lara so everybody can stop all the Lara hype.

Posted March 9, 2014 11:34 am 


Love-the-Sport

Good performance by Alvarez. Bad performance by Angulo. Good stoppage by referee.

Having said that … I think Alvarez is way over-rated, too fat for his height, too fat for his age, and he will probably not beat anybody else at the elite level.

My guess is that Alvarez will move up to middle weight and fight the weaker opposition at 160 … Martin Murray, Matthew Macklin, Daniel Geale, Curtis Stevens.

I don’t think you will see Alvarez against Lara at 154 or Alvarez against Golovkin or Quillin or Martinez.

The only risk I see Alvarez taking would be Cotto. Otherwise, I think Alvarez will take a safe path to good money fights, PPV events, and keep winning where his fast hands and weight have an advantage.

All of that doesn’t change the fact that he looked good against Angulo — where Angulo looked feeble with absolutely no pop left hin his punches. Given how feeble Angulo looked, I have no problem with stoppage.

Posted March 9, 2014 11:29 am 


HHLondon

Nothing controversial about the stoppage.
Alverez schooled Angulo.

Posted March 9, 2014 11:24 am 


PEEJ

But now I am no longer in agreement. Canelo himself said the weight did not bother him. Why someone has to make excuses for someone who is making none is beyond me. Canelo got schooled by Floyd. But Canelo took Angulo to school, the same Angulo that took Lara to deep waters.

Posted March 9, 2014 11:20 am 


PEEJ

Wow, I am actually in agreement with Gonzo. Not only was his post short but it was right on. lol

Posted March 9, 2014 11:18 am 


Gonzo the Dragonborn aka The New Edgar Allan Poe (Thus Quoth the Vulture)

The Ponce… No, last night’s fight was not a victory for your ugly b@stard bisexual fraud messiah. He fought a 152lb deathly drained cadaverous corpse Canlelo, not the much stronger and healthier one Angulo fought. Canelo still looked drained on the scales at 155lbs for goodness sake! The only reason The Catchweight King might have been laughing last night was because he knew he’d conned all you gullible vegetable-brained imbeciles yet again.

Posted March 9, 2014 11:18 am 


Gonzo the Dragonborn aka The New Edgar Allan Poe (Thus Quoth the Vulture)

Stupid ESB. Is the word spe@k banned now? You made me mess up my post you farckin’ idiots.

Posted March 9, 2014 11:11 am 


Gonzo the Dragonborn aka The New Edgar Allan Poe (Thus Quoth the Vulture)

I thought Virgil ‘The Egomaniac’ Hunter should’ve pulled out Angulo sooner. He was nothing but a walking punch bag and he was taking way too many shots. He was nothing but a walking punch bag and all he was doing was talking a beating. His defence is almost non-existent. The last fighter I saw a fighter with such a porous was Magomed and we all know what ended up happening to him. In fact, Angulo’s defence is even worse than his.

I’m not sure why Canelo is being subjected to so much hate here. I thought those in attendance who were booing him were was well out of order. I suspect it no doubt has something to do with ginger racism rearing its ugly face again.

Posted March 9, 2014 11:10 am 


Gonzo the Dragonborn aka The New Edgar Allan Poe (Thus Quoth the Vulture)

Gonzo is about to spe@k

Posted March 9, 2014 11:10 am 


Gonzo the Dragonborn aka The New Edgar Allan Poe (Thus Quoth the Vulture)

Gonzo

Posted March 9, 2014 11:09 am 


Dante

PEEJ

Floyd vs. Canelo

Similar to what you heard Cus D’amato’s advise was to Ali going into the Foreman fight: He {Foreman} doesn’t respect your power so go out there, sit on your punches, and in the first round hit him with all you got and take away his advantage.
{I’m paraphrasing but that was the gist of it}

Floyd took Canelo out of his game plan.

Floyd did the same with Hatton which it was the first and only fight I actually got right as to what I thought he would do…hahaha
He saw Hatton as someone who bullies his opponent, rough houses them, is confident in his strength since he out-muscles Tszyu (who was old and a bit drained at that point)…so Floyd reversed the roles and played the role of Hatton by going in and grappling and out-muscling the grappler. And then he unloaded his combinations later.

Posted March 9, 2014 11:08 am 


Gonzo the Dragonborn aka The New Edgar Allan Poe (Thus Quoth the Vulture)

….

Posted March 9, 2014 11:08 am 


….

Test

Posted March 9, 2014 11:07 am 


Dante

You know where you can see the difference in fighters talent where one fighter looks great in one fight but looks amateurish and lost in the next based on talent and style matchups? AMATEUR FIGHTING.

Even in other sports you can see it. Look at Soccer. One league a player looks great, and another, looks average. You look at Messi and Ronaldo and some others and their talent is unbelievable compared to others yet all are PRO football players. How the “F” are just a handful so much superior than the others???

Or like Bo Jackson in his prime. Or Barry Sanders making other Pro athletes look silly.

Iverson crossing over Jordan.

Posted March 9, 2014 11:01 am 


PEEJ

Angulo was able to find Lara and he was actually moving a lot more than Canelo. It was Canelos confidence in his attack. He came forward and showed Angulo he was the man, he was gonna dictate the terms. He pretty much did the same thing Floyd did to him. If you remember the first round of the Canelo vs Floyd fight you will see Floyd went straight in for the attack and that set the temp. Canelo did the same thing to Angulo

Posted March 9, 2014 10:59 am 


Dante

he Prince

Floyd critics refuse to accept that the guy takes away good fighters best abilities and then dominates them. This is why he’s able to make professional prize fighters look like Amateurs. Canelo looked bad against Floyd, because Floyd made it that way. Canelo himself admitted during the post fight interview. But instead of giving Floyd credit, Canelo is a overhyped fraud. Now that Canelo beat Angulo, he’s now a overhyped fraud. All these people making those post rejecting Angulo, said before the main event that Angulo would KO the overhyped Cinnibum.
Posted March 9, 2014 10:53 am

YES. But you here the agreement from Pro Fighters and Trainers and not so much the fans.

Posted March 9, 2014 10:58 am 


Dante

GingerWhinger

Or it could simply be that Angulo wasn’t able to hit a moving target. When a target is fixed, you can unload. but when a target is constantly moving, you aren’t able to put full force on your punches. If you do, you risk being wide open to being countered and Alvarez was making Angulo pay with Combinations. That’s key here along with the movement of Alvarez, the combination attacks that he was throwing with force. That’s what made Tyson, Pac, Jones jr. etc. all very dangerous and made their opponents look like they threw in the towel before they entered the ring. It was down to them getting caught early enough that they mentally were thrown off their game.

Posted March 9, 2014 10:56 am 


The Prince

Floyd critics refuse to accept that the guy takes away good fighters best abilities and then dominates them. This is why he’s able to make professional prize fighters look like Amateurs. Canelo looked bad against Floyd, because Floyd made it that way. Canelo himself admitted during the post fight interview. But instead of giving Floyd credit, Canelo is a overhyped fraud. Now that Canelo beat Angulo, he’s now a overhyped fraud. All these people making those post rejecting Angulo, said before the main event that Angulo would KO the overhyped Cinnibum.

Posted March 9, 2014 10:53 am 


Dante

O’, last bit that I should throw in but it wouldn’t necessarily relate to Angulo/Alvarez match since Angulo had a great training camp and it was more down to styles….sometimes, it’s down to being ill-prepared. That’s when you can see someone with extraordinary talent like Tyson or Jones Jr or Pryor etc. lose big because they messed up along the way in training, mentally and physically. Either bad training habits for to long, making weight, etc.

Morales didn’t look the same against Pac in the rematches, especially the third fight where he was just dead.

Jones stripping off muslce weight prior to the Tarver fight ruined him for good, especially at that age.

Tyson’s bad habits caught up to him against Douglas and especially later fights post-prison.

Dawson had issues it seemed coming down from LH to face Ward.

Etc. etc. etc.

Posted March 9, 2014 10:53 am 


Dante

JoeKidd

Where was this version of Canelo vs Floyd? Floyd hits harder than Angulo? Ref was paid off here. Canelo was definitely slowing down and Angulo was coming on. Similar to the Groves-Froch stoppage. You have to let the fight run its course. It was the doctor’s job or the trainer to stop the fight due to damage.
Posted March 9, 2014 9:58 am

You don’t watch boxing much or haven’t participated in it, do you?

I’ll list all the things Angulo doesn’t have that Floyd has:

I.Q….

Technical ability that is lost on many new generation fighters: FEINTS. It makes you hesitant to throw. Especially when you use a feint, make the opponent flinch, and then hit him with pin-point accuracy in return. It works on your mindset mentally and Physically. It stops your attack. It can make you look amateurish.

SPEED: obvious difference. Floyd gets off his punches before you can get off yours and if he lets you throw since he does like to counter-punch, he makes you miss and then hits you with your own. Again, look above to “Feints” as well.

Agility: Along with speed, agility helps you maneuver away from your opponent to prevent the slower sometimes more powerful puncher/fighter from setting his feet. When this happens, the slower fighter looks like a newbie lost in the woods.

Style matchups: Look above for this. Its why Canelo looks great against guys like Angulo and won’t look great against faster agile fighters. Same with Pac and his troubles with certain fighters like JMM and even Bradley while he will have a field day with a bigger, more poweful foe like Margarito because Margarito is a slow plodder.

Just so much on this topic and I don’t want to take up to much space. But this is the start.

All the above, all said by Pro Boxers and Trainers and there isn’t an original thought in the above that is mine.

Posted March 9, 2014 10:45 am 


PEEJ

Nope, if you saw the first round you will clearly see why his power was reduced. He got hit with some killer body shots and head shots that immediately seemed to take the steam away. Canelo never let up on the body attack neither. That will gas you rather quickly.

Posted March 9, 2014 10:44 am 


GingerWhinger

Whether Angulo purposely took power off his shots due to corruption.or whether it was something less sinister,like an injury,or overtraining,the result was Canelo was not getting the usual barrage of heavy shots from Angulo.And i don’t mean Canelo was avoiding shots,Angulo’s shots were landing,but it looked like they had all the power taken off them,he was hitting like a girl.It was like watching someone pushing string.Has Virgil had Angulo doing some weird training routines? Reverse single leg hill sprints while carrying an Atlas stone maybe.

Posted March 9, 2014 10:43 am 


PEEJ

I would favor Canelo in a fight vs Lara. Trout never hurt Canelo and Lara wiped the floor with Trout thought I thought Trout won by a round. Against Angulo, Lara was hurt and Canelo handled him with ease. Lara struggled with Vanes and Molina. I think Canelo would handle both with ease. I favor Canelo. By late stoppage or decision.

Posted March 9, 2014 10:29 am 


PEEJ

The stoppage was only bad because Angulo was fighting back. The problem was he wasn’t doing anything to Canelo so in this case the stoppage was actually good. Angulos head looked like a bobble head. Reminded me of when Floyd fought Chavez. Chavez head looked like a bobble head but in this instance Shields stopped the fight.

Posted March 9, 2014 10:08 am 


Bill S. Preston ESQ.

Canelo VS. GGG ! That’s a fight

Posted March 9, 2014 10:08 am 


Anonymous

GBP = Corruption!

Posted March 9, 2014 10:07 am 


Steve w

Boxtradamus boxtradamus boxtradamus …….u mug

Boxtradamus

Saul will be easy work for Alfredo. KO in 5. All my haters will be singing the praise of the greatest fight prophet EVER born.

Posted March 7, 2014 9:41 pm

Posted March 9, 2014 10:07 am 


Bill S. Preston ESQ.

He will thank the ref and appreciate the stoppage upon retirement

Posted March 9, 2014 10:06 am 


eric

Sound like someone’s trying to pull a froch/groves scenario

Posted March 9, 2014 10:05 am 


Bill S. Preston ESQ.

Look I hate Floyd as much as the next guy but he does not throw soft putty pat punches. When you have the speed he does you can’t throw haymakers or hands will break.

Posted March 9, 2014 10:05 am 


PEEJ

I had a little issue with the stoppage but Canelo was on his way to winning anyways. Nothing was gonna change. Plus I didn’t like the way Angulo was reacting to some of the punches landed.

Posted March 9, 2014 10:04 am 


Bill S. Preston ESQ.

He will thank the ref years from now

Posted March 9, 2014 10:00 am 


JoeKidd

Where was this version of Canelo vs Floyd? Floyd hits harder than Angulo? Ref was paid off here. Canelo was definitely slowing down and Angulo was coming on. Similar to the Groves-Froch stoppage. You have to let the fight run its course. It was the doctor’s job or the trainer to stop the fight due to damage.

Posted March 9, 2014 9:58 am 


WHAT!?!

Boxtradamus
I took Stieglitz and I STAND by MY pick.
Posted February 28, 2014 10:37 pm

Boxtradamus
Canelo will be KO’ed in shocking upset, upset to the rest of you but not to the greatest fight prophet EVER born. Carrot top goes down, EASY EASY work for Alfredo.
Posted March 3, 2014 6:36 pm

Boxtradamus
“Guess you learned your LESSON to pick the outstanding amateur-turned-pro when you didn’t PICK Rigondeaux over Donaire!”-Nope. I learned that outstanding Boxers take MY advice very WELL…. Lomachenko by ANY way, shape, or form
Posted February 27, 2014 12:18 am

I guess none of these were you. You’re a joke and have been found out posting under numerous pseudonyms agreeing with yourself. Not a good start to the year and there was another fight you got wrong which escapes me for the moment. Hahahaha

Posted March 9, 2014 9:57 am 


PEEJ

I was saying it before this was no main event. I actually thought it would be worth the money with Charlo vs Molina. But unfortunately Molina had a few legal issues. Personally I think if something like that happens then the fighter, Charlo in this instance should some how be compensated. Molina should not be able to fight any other fighter but Charlo, unless Charlo moves on. When that fight got scrapped I thought this card fell off.

Posted March 9, 2014 9:56 am 


Jonn E. JaGozza

Who is next for Canelo ? Lara ? Personally I’d like to see him step up in weight and go after the champions in other divisions, If it doesn’t happen now it will eventually happren as he’s only 23 yrs old and he’ll grow into the heavier weight classes .. PEACE …
Theboxingdictionary.com … “The Langauage of the Ring “

Posted March 9, 2014 9:55 am 


PEEJ

Sorry but there was no fixed fight last night. People always say that when a fight does not go the way they thought it would go. I thought it would be more compeitive from the way Angulo handled Lara. But I was wrong. Are we saying that Canelo is faster than Lara? I know before this fight people were trying to say Lara was the best at 154. From last night it looked like Canelo was faster and had better defense.

Posted March 9, 2014 9:54 am 


Anonymous

Curly Sue,

what does, “yup this mean” ?

Posted March 9, 2014 9:53 am 


KC

Unfortunately for Angulo, he’s a washed up journey-man selected to go against a young upcoming fighter…Gotta feel bad for Angulo. But that’s the pathetic state of affairs with this so-called sport. Ridiculous match-ups, promotors, boxing actors, PPV crap…..

Posted March 9, 2014 9:52 am 


Pugfan

I would also favor Canelo over Lara. last nights fight pretty much unfolded the way I thought it would. glad I got one right this time.

Posted March 9, 2014 9:51 am 


KC

Boring…

Posted March 9, 2014 9:49 am 


Anonymous

Fortunately, I did not pay to see this shenanigan. Golden Boy Promotions always seem to be involved in controversial decisions. Sign of the times appear bleak, boxing-wise

Posted March 9, 2014 9:49 am 


CurlyQ.Howard

Once again, ” to salvage Alvarez’s career and persona?” Yup, this.

Posted March 9, 2014 9:45 am 


Double Standerd

I just watched a fixed fight. When have you ever seen AA throw shots so soft. Sad to say but pitty pat Floyd was throwing harder shots than AA.

Posted March 9, 2014 9:44 am 


PEEJ

Angulo looked slow because Canelo came out and blasted him with some crazy head and body shots in the first round. I saw one body shot that looked like it just took everything from Angulo. I was wondering how he was still standing after it. What made me laugh though was thinking about how Lara beat Trout and said he did it better than Canelo but Canelo beat on Angulo like a drum. He made that look easy. I would favor Canelo over Lara.

Posted March 9, 2014 9:40 am 


Hidalg0

“Tidy sum indeed.”

Einstein speaks.

Posted March 9, 2014 9:22 am 


Sunrise

Alvarez wouldn’t look this good going up against GGG or Martinez (if he still has it).

Posted March 9, 2014 9:19 am 


Sunrise

this was a purposefully picked fight to give off the illusion that Angulo was a threat but the speed, youth, hunger, and talent of Alvarez was always going to be to much.

Most of the time this is what happens: Slow plodding fighter that fights someone with such attributes as Alvarez, Pac, Mosley, Mayweather, etc. get exposed to the point where the uneducated viewer can’t believe the results.

It’s all about style matchups.

Posted March 9, 2014 9:18 am 


Sunrise

Popkins

The ref’s stoppage was ok. But for whatever reason, from the opening bell onwards Angulo did not appear to put full power into any of his shots.
Posted March 9, 2014 8:10 am

He couldn’t plant his feet correctly and he was to wary of Canelo’s combination punches so he was to hesitant. Fighters that throw with full power have to have the mindset that they are all in, that they are willing to take a big shot, even knocked out, in order to deliver their own big shot. When they are not all in their power diminishes dramatically.

And with Angulo, he was never one to look like he could throw hard because he is slow and lacks explosiveness when he fights. You tend to just see the results of his punches but nothing awe inspiring when he throws in lands.

Posted March 9, 2014 9:14 am 


Ike

Predictable outcome. Angulo has lost every big fight he’s ever been in. He was chosen as an opponent because Canelo needed a win as a headliner on a PPV event. Hopefully, Alvarez will fight the winner of Martinez-Cotto next.

Posted March 9, 2014 9:12 am 


Popkins

The ref’s stoppage was ok. But for whatever reason, from the opening bell onwards Angulo did not appear to put full power into any of his shots.

Posted March 9, 2014 8:10 am 


God’s P.A

What? You want the guy to end up like Gerald Mc or Meldrick Taylor? He took too many heavy shots…
Tony made a good call…

Posted March 9, 2014 8:00 am 


el tango

he should fight GGG and get his ass kick!.not a worth ppv either.

Posted March 9, 2014 7:53 am 


Popkins

Angulo is considered a heavy handed fighter, yet at no point during the entire fight, not even wen he was fresh in rounds 1-3 did he appear to throw even one full bloodied shot. Canelo looked great. But wot happened to Angulo? Burnt out from a tough training camp? Or was he paid off to hold back on his punches, to allow the continued rise of the young Mexican super star money making machine canelo?

Posted March 9, 2014 7:46 am 


The Prince

Good win for Canelo, and all the ESB haters that were hoping Alvarez would lose to take away from Mayweather’s victory over him, Money got the last laugh.

Posted March 9, 2014 7:33 am 


Happyboy

Tidy sum indeed.

Posted March 9, 2014 7:24 am 


CurlyQ.Howard

“Alvarez, who earned a minimum $1.25 million, agreed to pay Angulo an additional $100,000, raising his purse to $850,000.” (Boxrec.com) At least Angulo made a tidy sum for this fight.

Posted March 9, 2014 7:18 am 


rush

Canelo won the fight from the opening round!

Posted March 9, 2014 7:08 am 


gray

the only controversy was the ref had to do what the corner should have done which was pull angulo out. he took a beating in the 9th and i dont enjoy watching that. brave move by the ref but a correct one

Posted March 9, 2014 6:07 am 


Ghetto Thug

Canelo “the bum killer” Alvarez!!!!!!

Posted March 9, 2014 5:45 am 


punch

The stoppage wasn’t entertaining, it was controversial as the article rightfully pointed out. However, there is precedence to justify such a stoppage so I’m not going to dwell on it.

Posted March 9, 2014 5:34 am 


Boxtradamus

Canelo WON by ENTERTAINING stoppage just as I predicted!!!!! I am the GREATEST Fight Prophet ever born!!!!!

Posted March 9, 2014 4:27 am 



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