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Groves u made me a believer . I gave u no chance and in the 1st round u rocked him hard boy! But, if u lose, and I ever c u. I swear , I’m gonna cross the road, call u a rude word and run off.

Posted May 28, 2014 10:55 pm 


I am a massive fan of John Grooves. Please can anyone help me to get a couple of tickets to see my hero John Grooves in action. I have followed his career all the way back to the Olympics when he represented our boys and I have all his fights cut out in my scrapbook. I tried to get tickets but couldn’t get through to Wembley. You will make a massive Grooves fan really, really happy. thx
My dream is to meet John in person and get a photo of me standing next to John with his world middleweight title that he will win for Britain when he beats Frocks in May. I am tingling all inside and aweating so much when I think of myself standing side by side with Grooves. Please make my wish come true. If only Kim were here to fix It for me! Grooves is the best fighter in the world and he supports my team Chelsea also.

Posted March 15, 2014 7:26 am 


So Canelo and Froch are booed out of the ring when a ref stops their fights a little early. How say you guys if the refs waited that little bit too late, cause surely as Monday follows Sunday both the guys in the L column would have lost. We could be talking about another ring tragedy in Angulo’s case.
Love it when plastic, dumb 8ss fans shout off their big mouths from the cheap seats and don’t know anything. Both guys would have been stopped, sooner, rather than later and Groves should kiss Hearn’s feet as he will now make more money than he could ever have made without him and get another crack at a title. He should have bet it all on red or black and purchased a lottery ticket that night as his luck was in big time.

Posted March 14, 2014 8:46 am 


I heard the National Trust have slapped a Preservation Order on Groves’ slap head.

Posted March 14, 2014 8:37 am 


Looking at this picture Groves’ hair is receding quicker than his in-ring career.

Posted March 14, 2014 6:17 am 


agree with TARK.

Posted March 14, 2014 5:56 am 


wlad clenchko has beat nothing but hw bums.

Posted March 13, 2014 6:48 pm 

Gonzo the Dragonborn

Tark.. You’re going to have to do a lot better than that to bait me in. ROFL. They don’t call me an ESB legend for no reason you know. You want Gonzo to school and humiliate you again on the exact same subjects and topics I’ve already schooled and humiliated you on numerous times before? ROFL.

You’re rolling over and playing possum and expecting me to pretend like I think you’re really dead? ROFL @ you’ of all people trying to outwit someone who was spawned my their own seed. You still don’t get it yet do you? And after all this time. tut tut. Gonzo didn’t just invent the game and the rules by which it’s played.. he’s also the reigning undisputed and undefeated champion at it. The GOAT!! Now go and drown your sorrows in another goblet or three of @nus blood you wizened old Nosferatu cripple you.

Posted March 13, 2014 6:36 pm 


It certainly didn’t but Rodriguez up… Wladimir’s jab busts the crap out of his opponents… Look at their respective KO ratios…

Ward is a better all around fighter than WK… but Wladimir is a specialist… He kills you with the jab and straight right and ties you up when you get inside. He’s like Ali in that he has no real body attack or inside game.

But he’s still going strong at 38 and Ali went soft by that age. Ward will be around for a long time because he has the same dedication Wladimir has.

Posted March 13, 2014 11:11 am 


…and the BEST in Boxing

Posted March 13, 2014 12:27 am 


Obviously TARK didn’t watch Ward’s last Fight. In his last Fight his jab supassed Wlad’s. His jab is now DEVASTATING.

Posted March 13, 2014 12:08 am 


Gonzo..”Calzaghe would’ve boxed Froch’s ears off no question.”

Joe wasn’t a boxer… That’s why he got knocked on his ass … and lit up so much. He didn’t throw straight punches well. He was a brawler who threw hooks and uppercuts. He was a mixer who threw power shots.

He was a pretty effective brawler. I remember when Byron Mitchell decked JC hard with a brutal left hook. Calzaghe got up wobbly. But he didn’t box try and clear his head. He didn’t grab. He started throwing punches like crazy as Mitchell tried to finish him off.

That’s why Froch wanted to fight Calzaghe so bad. He felt JC’s style was perfect for him because he comes right to you and throws. Plus Carl loved to fight southpaws like Bute. Froch loves to throw the 45 right hander and southpaws are wide open for it.

Posted March 12, 2014 9:38 pm 


NO!! he goes to the same barber as you slim prik!!the carrot top cropper!

Posted March 12, 2014 6:08 pm 

slim prickman

does groves use the same barber as the bishop of durham.

Posted March 12, 2014 3:50 pm 


All this BS is staged.

Posted March 12, 2014 3:24 pm 


steve uk,aka Anonymous!!F@K OF MUPPET

Posted March 12, 2014 3:15 pm 

Gonzo the Dragonborn aka The New Edgar Allan Poe (Thus Quoth the Vulture)

I agree with that too Brother Boxing Barlow. Froch didn’t do himself any favours when he used to run his mouth all the time during the earlier part of his career. And I think his fight against Taylor was on ITV4, a delayed broadcast a day after the fight if memory serves me well.

Calzaghe would’ve boxed Froch’s ears off no question.

Posted March 12, 2014 2:01 pm 


…. “So if Haye can hold his own against Wlad who has the height and size advantage over him using a style that groves employs why can’t Groves be as effective against Ward?”

Because Haye DIDN’T hold his own. He lost 10 of 12 rounds and couldn’t attack effectively. It could have been the toe. But I think Wlad would have beaten him regardless.

Wladimir has a better jab than Ward, and more punching power P4P — but Ward has the better overall game.. He’s Mr. Inside.. Mr. Outside.. Mr. Upstairs.. Mr. Downstairs.. He’s a masterful defender. Groves can’t match his skills.

Look at Groves face after Froch stopped him… He looked like a side of beef… Imagine what Ward would do to him.

Posted March 12, 2014 1:12 pm 


david toe haye is not a boxer.he”s a prima donna and a joke.

Posted March 12, 2014 11:08 am 


Ward has the BEST jab in Boxing. Its BETTER than Wlad’s. Ward’s jab is sudden and powerful. Rodriguez got hammered with it time after time YET he was surprised by it every single time. . As soon as Floyd steps down, Ward takes the throne as I predicted long long AGO.

Posted March 12, 2014 5:26 am 

Kelly Smunt

Haye is a better boxer than Groves, however the Wlad fight he was incredibly cautious – he threw 300 less punches than Wlad, whereas his usual output is much higher.

He`s been hit plenty by guys with lesser talent than Wlad in the past – the Lolenga Mock fight being a good case in point.

Groves has pacing problems, and he gets drawn into a brawl too easily, but really if you are watching him dominate the #2 SMW in the world for 7 rounds, nearly KO’ing him in one round, barely getting touched until he started slowing in the second half, and then you want to call him a “technical disaster”, your words mean nothing.

I mean who else in the world at SMW other than Ward ISN`T a technical disaster by your criteria? If everyone except the no1 is, or gets beaten by technical disasters, what the hell word are you going to use for people like Deontay WIlder who are ABSOLUTE technical disasters.

Posted March 12, 2014 3:40 am 


So if haye can hold his own against wlad who has the height and size advantage over him using a style that groves employs why can’t groves be as effective against ward who is his size? I just want to see how ward will adjust to groves style, will his jab, which is as effective as wlads be as effective against someone who throws a fast counter right.

Posted March 12, 2014 2:34 am 


I fully appreciate different styles… Haye is a much better and more accomplished boxer and puncher than Groves… He’s a 2-Division World Champion who went 12 with Wladimir, who said, “That’s about the hardest I’ve been hit. He caught me pretty good in the 12th.”

Haye doesn’t do the bunny hop and he doesn’t get hit right in the face with super slow punches. Wladimir has one of the best jabs, straight rights, and left hooks in the history of the heavyweight division. Haye’s face wasn’t as bruised and battered by Wladimir as Groves’ face was by Froch, and Haye gave up 35 pounds … Groves didn’t.

Posted March 12, 2014 12:08 am 

Steve UK


Fine put your name and address here and I’ll fly over to the UK and buy a stick and lets see if you can do it.

Posted March 12, 2014 12:03 am 


BTW… Let’s be clear. Ward is NOT slow. He doesnt run. He doesn’t dance. He doesn’t do the double-clutch shuffle. He’s not showy. When you’re in there with Ward it’s a revelation. Ask Edwin Rodriguez who was 24-0. Watch Ward’s fights with Kessler and Froch because he’s outscoring them by double.

The way Ward has been taught is to NOT use superfluous movements of any kind… He was taught to be economical with his feints and footwork and not to put any strength on any of his punches. That’s the Jack Blackburn method Virgil Hunter teaches. Just land more punches. That’s the game. Every time you hit your opponent you’re putting the ball in the basket. Every punch your opponent misses you score a point defensively.

Like Joe Louis. Let the other guy showboat and do shines, then jab him straight in the nose, which is the closest point to your glove. If you land the jab solidly the right hand should be coming directly behind it … so run the score up.

Ward is one of the most technical boxers in the world. Groves is a technical disaster.

Posted March 11, 2014 9:35 pm 


Dirrell??? Yeah maybe… I mean, Dirrell actually beat Froch.. But Groves??? No way.. Groves doesn’t move that well, has a wide stance, leans in too much, bunny hops around, and gets hit with everything even a slow old guy like Froch throws.. The stoppage was premature but Froch was in the process of hammering Groves out.

Ward would just stop Groves a lot easier… or would beat him so bad his own mother would hardley recognize him.

Posted March 11, 2014 9:08 pm 

Tony TT Galento

Tark, Ward is a near feather fist, he hasnt ever brutalised anyone with his fists..only his forehead! Wards never faced off with a guy who can move and punch fast and hard. Wards no speedster, he relies on slow guys coming straight at him. Groves brings something new, hell, if Dirrell had heart he could give Ward fits too.

Posted March 11, 2014 6:33 pm 


Tark – Obviously Ward would be the easy pick in that one, but I can see Groves making it tough for Ward early in the fight which is more than anyone has been able to manage.

Posted March 11, 2014 5:50 pm 


Ward would destroy Groves..

It would be brutal.. Ward is very tough to hit cleanly and would reach Groves with everything. He has no holes in his game. He’s not worried about knocking anyone out because he’s already beating them … and he knows the more rounds he gets at the elite level the better.

Ward has 185 rounds… Froch has 240… Groves 104.

Posted March 11, 2014 5:38 pm 


Anon- groves by ko?? I highly doubt it, the first fight was playing out almost exactly like froch Taylor, with froch getting dropped hard early in both fights the difference being groves was looking spent as early as the 8th whereas Taylor at least making it to 12. We’ve all seen froch get hit with brutal shots and not flinch, that chin combined with the relentlessness will win it for froch again. I like groves but I honestly think tough guys like froch are all wrong for him, I wouldn’t mind seeing what he can do against ward though

Posted March 11, 2014 4:49 pm 


if you were my son i,d beat you with a stick!!loser

Posted March 11, 2014 4:43 pm 


lol at the tool below!!!do your homework and f@k of to bed you little c~nt!!you got school 2moz

Posted March 11, 2014 4:41 pm 


Come on Billy say something dumb it’s the only thing you’re good at! LMFAO!

Posted March 11, 2014 3:09 pm 


HAHAHAHAHA “eats his soup with a fork” Classic! Nice one!

Posted March 11, 2014 3:08 pm 


BILLY eats his soup with a fork! LMFAO!!!

Posted March 11, 2014 3:07 pm 


HAHAHAHAHA! He hasn’t got a clue, if dynamite were brains he couldn’t even blow his own head up! HAHAHAHA!

Posted March 11, 2014 3:06 pm 


Yep me 2 are we all the same person BILLY? LMAO!

Posted March 11, 2014 3:05 pm 


Hey BILLY NO BRAIN I’m Anonymous too am I the same person as well you retard! LOL

Posted March 11, 2014 3:02 pm 


I see that teenage loser BILLY NO MEDALS ALL AMERICAN BOY is back. He sits there waiting for ANY anonymous comment, thinking it’s the same person every time!!

Hahahaha what a total idiot.

Get back in your bedroom little boy this place is for grown ups not thick little school kids like you. LOL

Posted March 11, 2014 2:42 pm 


I see that teenage loser BILLY NO MEDALS ALL AMERICAN BOY is back.

Hahahaha what an idiot.

Get back in your bedroom little boy this place is for grown ups not school kids like you.

Posted March 11, 2014 2:38 pm 


theres more of a personality in that wet sock Anonymous bruce lodsa names than Gromit Groves got!!carrot top

Posted March 11, 2014 2:36 pm 

Fight Aficionado

“The Chelsea fans and Londoners will be out in vast numbers for this fight to cheer Groves on. That will make a big difference to Groves’ confidence.” – True. The Chelsea fans are starting to back Groves like Manchester City fans backed Hatton. If Groves wins and emerges as a major player on the world stage it’ll be huge for boxing, like Hatton was.

Posted March 11, 2014 1:58 pm 


ease up on them prozacs you want to!you silly sap

Posted March 11, 2014 1:53 pm 


Anonymous bruce,why do you write in under one name!!then send in under another saying the opposite thing!!!your one sad lonely mutha f@ker

Posted March 11, 2014 1:51 pm 


This is going to be a brawl… Groves is no boxer.

He came out of the last fight KO’d — and his face looking like he ventured up the wrong alley in a tough neighborhood.

Posted March 11, 2014 1:46 pm 


The Chelsea fans and Londoners will be out in vast numbers for this fight to cheer Groves on. That will make a big difference to Groves’ confidence. He’ll hear the roar every time he lands a punch on Froch. I agree with Anon all the way, if Groves boxes smart and doesn’t get involved in a street brawl Froch stands no chance.

Posted March 11, 2014 1:22 pm 


Anonymouse… LMAO — Froch got this. He’s got the punk he wanted. He’s going to be licking his chops all the way to the bank.

Posted March 11, 2014 1:16 pm 


Groves will do the one thing he didn’t do in the first fight, he will flatten Froch with a huge right hand at the beginning of the first or second round, (in contrast to the previous fight when he did that right at the end of the first round and didn’t have time to finish him off) once he flattens him, then he’ll have plenty of time to finish Froch off.

The fact that Froch needs his big loud mouth thug brother Lee to help fight this battle outside the ring says a lot about Froch’s confidence. He’s crapping it, he did everything he could to avoid the rematch, claiming time and time again he would not give Groves the second fight. But when he was ordered to fight him by the IBF or lose the belt he had to rethink, plus the money will be massive, that’s what changed his mind.

But that doesn’t change the fact that Groves knows he battered Froch all around the ring for the best part of the 7 rounds and then ran out of gas. This time Groves will be more composed, he won’t use up so much nervous energy, and he’ll be much stronger for the whole of the fight.

Mayweather is an expert at staying composed, he doesn’t use up nervous energy, that guy could fight 50 rounds and still not break a sweat. Froch needs to learn from that because that was one of only two mistakes he really made.

The other one was when Froch started to fight back, Groves stood toe-to-toe with him, giving Froch his ONLY chance back into the fight. If Groves had boxed smart after round 7 and used his jab and superior hand speed to get through the next 5 rounds, Froch would have lost convincingly on points.

So there it is.

One: Groves used up too much nervous energy and didn’t stay composed enough.

And two: he went toe-to-toe with Froch when he should of done a Mayweather and just kept his distance and boxed Froch’s head off.

If Groves adjusts those two things, Groves will win either by stoppage or a clear undisputed points win.

I expect Groves to win by an early KO because he’s already proved he’s a much better boxer, he’s much faster, particularly with the jab, and over hand right, and can hit like a hammer, but this time it will happen early in a round and Groves will step in and finish Froch off once and for all.

Groves wins by KO.

Posted March 11, 2014 1:12 pm 


the brits are getting very close to the yanks in the hype department.

Posted March 11, 2014 11:27 am 


Make quicker work? Groves isnt allowing some fat bribed brit to ref it this time

Posted March 11, 2014 10:52 am 

The Greatest Promoter of All Times

The one point I missed out is FROCH will probably take that half step back or to the side when Groves attacks, which will leave him falling that fraction short as he reaches for the target.
The mistake CARL made was to try and walk Groves down early. At top world class you cannot do this unless, you either wish to walk through hell fire or have it on good advice (spies in the camp), that your opponent is weak at the weight or having other issues.
FROCH will or should try to get Groves reaching that little bit in them early going and then counter him, just like he did in rounds 4,5,6 of his first fight with Kessler before it ramped up to 12 on the scale from the mid point.
If Groves has to reach, he can then be countered, hard enough and often enough to have him think hard about his plan A. This is precisely what Groves did to FROCH in November forcing him to walk onto one early and chasing the game until midway through the fight.

Posted March 11, 2014 10:28 am 


“If Groves were a master I’d fear for Froch’s life… Reality is going to be quite different.”

Carl may make even quicker work of Groves this time.

Posted March 11, 2014 10:21 am 

Neil (pomy)

Love a good grudge match. May the best man win whoever it is.

Posted March 11, 2014 9:55 am 


Leefroch is an utter clown. Check his twitter pix

Posted March 11, 2014 9:49 am 


Groves had all the tools in the first fight and it wasn’t enough. This time he’ll be missing surprise. For sure, he seems to be under Froch’s skin again… So last time Froch was wound up and underestimating him; this time he’ll be wound up, ready and focused. And this helps Groves how, exactly? It can’t realistically go better for Groves in their next meeting – and Groves knows this, AND Froch knows he knows it. Mental edge is all for Froch.

Posted March 11, 2014 9:33 am 

The Greatest Promoter of All Times

Great points One Inch Punch and Neil (POMY). Once again I hope I’m wrong, but when these rivalries become really personal we have had some serious injuries to the fighters and I hope the first thing is everyone comes out unscathed.
But, the way these two men are going about things And if they are true to their words I cannot see anything but a fight like FROCH vs Kessler I, which is one of the most savage fights I’ve seen involving a British fighter and FROCH seems to specialise in winning these brutal encounters. I seem to remember reading it’s something to do with Polish blood he has in him and those Polish footie hooligans have a history of organising fights between an even amount of like minded meat heads in the forests and only quitting when a suitable amount of claret has painted the forest floor red!
FROCH is not a great boxer per se, but he can box, cf ABRAHAM and JOHNSON fights, but he specialises in out gutting any man who dare goes to war with him.
I personally do not feel Groves had this in his make up, so he goes down the route of psychological warfare, which is totally fine with me. But, if he goes to to toe with FROCH, I know FROCH would rather die than lose to him. I have massive doubts Groves has the cojones to put it all on the line.
Sad thing is both men have very young babies who need a father.
FROCH has been bitterly hurt when we should look at him for his in ring performances which we should be proud of. Look at Hatton and Calzaghe who have had their problems outside the ring?
no one is perfect and we are looking at these guys for what they do for 36 minutes in a ring, not the rubbish that goes on outside the ropes.
Groves was very, very good in November, but FROCH was finishing like the Mac Truck and no one can dispute that. He now knows Groves can punch and will be ready to be a little less reckless, but far more determined to get close and probably target his body early to slow him down.
Grove has his downward arcing right hand and FROCH has his whipping uppercut if he can get to mid-close range that can end a fight early.
The other issue is that there is now pressure on Groves to deliver, whereas FROCH is driven by revenge.
I predict a savage, savage fight and a conclusive winner. Will it go the distance? If it does I will be quite surprised.

Posted March 11, 2014 9:06 am 


Neil (pomy) – that’s why i used the words “mentally battered”, even now months later Carl can’t even look at him in the eyes and has brought in reinforcements in his big brother!!. Watson did do that to Eubank.

Posted March 11, 2014 8:48 am 

Neil (pomy)

Oh Watson did …. he completely won the pre-fight mental-war with Eubank. Eubank and Barry Hearn admit as much

Posted March 11, 2014 8:41 am 


The Greatest Promoter of All Times – good points… but Watson’s didn’t mentally batter Eubanks before they fought. Getting in someone heads does count for a lot and quite clearly Carl has an issues with Groves… furthermore for me (not saying Groves will win), Groves has all the tools which gives Froch problems… i.e. movement, speed and more or less ever fighter Carl has face with these qualities has given him problems. Will Grove be more like a Taylor, Darrell or Ward in there fight????

Posted March 11, 2014 8:36 am 


Ray ray, I get what your saying but that is changing

Posted March 11, 2014 8:35 am 


boxing barlow – i don’t think is so much as “jumping on the band wagon”, but more of Carl has brought his brother in to fight his verbal and mental battles. Just show how childish his no mark brother is by coughing the word “Bollocks” during the press conference when Groves stared to speak. It looks like Carl can’t fight his own battles…. If they have another face to face on sky’s boxing programme…. Will Carl’s big brother be there to hold his hand to stop him from Crying??

Posted March 11, 2014 8:27 am 

The Greatest Promoter of All Times

Do people remember the rematch between Michael Watson and Chris Eubank?
Watson in many people’s eyes had won their first encounter, but poor judging drove Watson to fight like a lunatic in order to convincingly defeat Chris in the rematch.
Well, that led to Watson dropping Chris quite heavily and although Chris admitted he was outboxed, outclassed and almost spent, he dredged up from a place only true champions can go that uppercut to knock Michael down and tragically whip lashing his neck off the bottom rung of the ropes.

The rest we all know….

I can see a very similar scenario here as both men are fuelled by the feeling of injustice, betrayal, lack of respect and tainted resumes.

I can really see someone getting badly hurt in that ring on May 31st and I pray I am wrong, but I see the animal in Carl FROCH beating a very brave and courageous Groves into submission and possibly a lengthy stay in hospital.

The base instincts of a man are truly revealed when his back is against the ropes, he is spent and on his last throw of the dice. Nigel Benn, Chris Eubank and even the likes of Carl Thompson have shown this time and again as has Carl Froch.

I couldn’t care less about his brothers. All one has to look at is in rounds 8 and 9 who was coming forward, willing to leave it all on the line to win??

Remember Amir Khan vs Maidana. He dropped him with a body shot in round 1 and seemingly was plain sailing until the 4th or 5th and WHO finished like a mac truck? It wasn’t Khan. A true warrior may be outclassed by finesse, but he will keep going until he breaks his rivals heart.

Review the last 3 rounds of FROCH vs Kessler I. The whole fight was savage, but the last 3 rounds were above and beyond savage! FROCH vs Groves was only 40% of the savagery of the first Kessler fight and perhaps 60% of the second Kessler fight! Pascal vs FROCH was more savage than Groves vs FROCH.
We have to remember for the first 6 rounds Groves was beating on a man fighting through a haze.

I will go on record that GROVES cannot live with a FROCH if he is as well trained as any of the above fights. GROVES CANNOT drag himself to what MUHAMMAD ALI called that Dark Place, when he fought George Foreman.

I can’t think of too many active fighters who can drag themselves to that dark place and if they do can they really be the same again?

If Groves sticks and moves he can will, but all his boasts will be just the words of a p8ssy!

FROCH will drag Groves to Hell and raise those Hell fires to a place we last saw when Benn outlasted McClellan. It will be competitive. it will be brutal. In the words of HECDOG, please warn all your women and children as this will be XXX rated!

This will be caveman stuff. FROCH has been there before, but can Groves drag himself to hell and come out the other side?

The World’s Greatest Promoter of All Times doesn’t think so!

Posted March 11, 2014 8:24 am 


Haha this makes me laugh…. How many of you actually bet on GG first fight?! I did and wasn’t annoyed when i lost the small amount i put on…. But here we are now and 145 comments later and 3/4′s of folk are saying oh it’s GG to lose, faster hands and feet blah blah blah, some of the same people i see who i remember saying Froch would KO GG in under 3 rounds. I got no problem people changing their minds as GG showed what i have seen him do in the majority of his other fights but don’t little lambs type as if you have thought this all along.!!! baaaaa baaaaa………

Posted March 11, 2014 8:17 am 

boxing barlow

OneInchPunch – Yeah nothing worse than someone jumping on the band wagon trying to bask in someone elses glory. Maybe he hopes to get on the z list celeb circuit off the back of Froch’s fame. Reality is no one is interested in Lee Froch’s opinion.

Posted March 11, 2014 7:35 am 


Its a shame Carl Froch has to bring his bother in to fight his verbal battles… a no mark getting his 5 minutes for fame. Carl is still being out mentally battered by Groves… the fact that Carl has brought his brother in to fight some of his battles and will not look at Groves…. Round one to groves.

Posted March 11, 2014 7:18 am 

Boxing barlow

If you look at how Groves was able to use his feet and reflexes to box Degale, who is far faster and has better footwork than Froch, it gives you some idea of the job he could do on Froch if he aviods getting drawn into a war. If I was the Groves team to get his conditioning up to scratch I would have him sparring 6 rounds with a fighter then but the put him in with a fresh bigger fighter for another 6 rounds to force him to dig deep.

Posted March 11, 2014 6:06 am 

Boxing barlow

theyiddo – I’m planning on having a big bet on Groves so I just hope he holds it together! Your right it is his fight to loose and all this talk of it being a three round fight is rubbish and i just hope Groves doesnt actually beleive it. I’d love to see Groves Vrs Ward!

Posted March 11, 2014 6:01 am 


Got to agree with boxing barlow on this one. Its Groves fight to lose. He’s faster, more skilful and hits harder than Froch. His problem in the first fight was he went all macho when he got tagged, instead of using his boxing skills. If he paces himself well in the first 5 – 6 rounds while picking up the points (which he should easily), then he’ll have more than enough in the tank to take an easy points win.

Posted March 11, 2014 5:13 am 

Assyrian God

I too think Groves could give Ward real trouble. All Wards big wins have been against relatively slow, come forward types of fighters. He has developed a style to beat those types, but Groves has faster hands, better all round speed and mobility etc than the types Ward has beaten, and he can punch…unlike Ward who is a light hitter. And Ward does not have any better stamina than Groves either.

Posted March 11, 2014 5:00 am 


I think Ray has gone away to think about John Howard lap dancing for him. Go on Ray, picture it in your mind, your former Australian Prime Minister, dressed in your wife’s underwear standing on your living table thrusting his hips in your direction and singing ‘Waltzing Matilda’ at the top of his voice. Don’t get an erection Ray, you’ll give the game away to your wife. Come on Ray sing along … “Waltzing Matilda, Waltzing Matilda, John will cum Waltzing Matilda on you. And he’ll cum, and he’ll cum, right up inside your Billabong, Waltzing Matilda right up your bum.” Come on Ray this is your song, sing it loud and proud. You’re a Knight of the pork sword, Ray.

Posted March 11, 2014 1:17 am 


bahahahahha funny banter from all sides

Posted March 11, 2014 12:51 am 


Ray Ray

“ACDC, INXS. Crocodile Dundee.”

You see what I mean? All men Ray. All men. Come to terms with your sexuality Ray. Step out of the metaphorical outback and face your man lust Ray. You’ll feel better.

Posted March 11, 2014 12:33 am 


Ray Ray you keep going on about boyfriends. Does your wife know about your secret feelings for men and your desire for brown love? Maybe that’s why your spelling is so all over the place, you seem to be distracted by thoughts about rear ending a man. Do you think about Greg Norman in the nude? I bet you do. Do you ask him to putt from the rough in your dreams? I prefer Rose Byrne myself, she’s hot stuff, but if you like men there’s no shame in that. Live and let live I say.

Posted March 11, 2014 12:28 am 

Ray Ray

Oz- ha ha ha Kylie? ACDC, INXS. Crocodile Dundee.

Posted March 11, 2014 12:07 am 

Ray Ray

Dave u still here? Happily married 2 an awesome lady me….Iv heard less from better than the likes of u & anonymous, & I didn’t listen 2 them….so ur wasting ur breath. Use the wind 2 blow ur Boyfriend

Posted March 11, 2014 12:05 am 


Ray Ray you clearly have a fixation about boyfriends I suggest you come to terms with your sexuality and get yourself an nice guy who can give you the brown love you want. Don’t be ashamed, it’s okay, feel free to come out of the closet and dance like the fairy you clearly are mate.

Posted March 10, 2014 11:40 pm 


Australia is famous for Kangaroos, Koalas, Jeff Fenech maybe and Kylie Minogue, well done.

Posted March 10, 2014 11:09 pm 


ray ray – I didn’t mean to sound like the grammer police. you type how you want, as you know it’s hard to care much about anything when you live in Australia, life is just so sweet

Posted March 10, 2014 10:54 pm 

nightmare nick

No doubt about whether or not the brits support their fighters. I was one of the nay sayers about this being a huge stadium fight

Posted March 10, 2014 10:42 pm 

Ray Ray

Pie chucker- good 2 c u started the day off with a bang….surf wasn’t much good here either. As far as the Grammer/spelling & short hand txt go’s? Some people say lazy others say good time management….some people r way more educated than me, so ur rite there. The same educated people r on half the coin I am 2….so go figure. Basically I don’t care how I come across, especially 2 boyfriends like Dave an Anonymous..

Posted March 10, 2014 10:40 pm 

Ray Ray

Dave-well done ur back up on here is anonymous. How proud u must b. I was talking nothing but boxing until u started name calling and picking spelling….get a life.

Posted March 10, 2014 10:35 pm 

Ray Ray

Dave u Moran y r u bringing up Grammer/spelling? It’s a boxing site, not a spelling b.

Posted March 10, 2014 10:33 pm 


dwc – correct. the idea that froch fears anyone is ludicrous.

Freddie roach – mundine’s 5 minute nap at the hands of the weakest puncher on earth was met with uproarious laughter in Australia. as I’ve stated many times on other threads, mundine is a villain in Australia

Ray ray – I had a similar morning to you, but the surf was a bit scrappy today. I agree with the others though, your txt talk is thoroughly annoying and unsightly. just reeks young, lazy, unintelligent. I’m not saying you are, that’s just the impression your txt talk gives off

Posted March 10, 2014 9:51 pm 


F.A….Your right.Mandatory fights dont always come off…and when a fighter can make more money with another fighter then thats what likely happens.And belts today are a dime a dozen..not like in 1968 when I first watched boxing,a belt meant something.But like you said Froch seen Groves could make him more money then Chavez jr. therefore the fight happened.I always felt for the most part this fight would happen because of the payday more then anything else.And it was silly that people thought a tough guy like Froch would crap 6 shades of brown because he was afraid of a rematch with Groves.I like Groves as a fighter but when you look at what Froch did…the fighters he faced,and went to fighters backyards to fight…do people really think hes that afraid of Groves??Yes Groves gave him a great fight untill he ran out of gas and Froch started to wear him down…and yes I belive Froch took him to lightly the first time…but to shake with fear after everything Froch did as a fighter…just because of Groves..I think not…

Posted March 10, 2014 9:30 pm 

Roger Tileman Sven Ottke

Posted March 10, 2014 9:28 pm 

Passport Ward

I hope this not an excuse for Andre Ward to not fight away, it will be a UK fight anyway, no one is going to get robbed. Andre Ward needs to get on his bike fight away, instead of fighting at home, against who, he needs a Superfight and fight away.

Posted March 10, 2014 9:06 pm 

Passport Ward

Reid was not robbed in the Calzaghe fight, that is is an urban myth, close fight, Calzaghe won.

Posted March 10, 2014 8:52 pm 

Passport Ward

Roger Tileman, the ref in the Reid v Ottke fight, he warned Reid when he threw a punch at Ottke, you have to see the fight to believe it,it was so rigged that fight with the ref.

Posted March 10, 2014 8:50 pm 


HHLONDON has the beat. Tilleman is possibly the only man who people cheered when he passed a couple years back. his reffing performance was perhaps the most obvious biased one against a visiting fighter in living memory. Shocking thing was this moron was also a judge as well. Should have been arrested that same night. I counted at least three flagrant rule breaks by that so called ref that night amongst many others. I apologise in advance for speaking ill of the dead, but he was a human scumbag.

Posted March 10, 2014 8:41 pm 


Hahahaha Ray the turd burglar! classic one Dave!

Posted March 10, 2014 8:35 pm 


Ray Ray why are you bringing up girlfriends you moron? This is a boxing site, not a dating site. If you’re a turd burglar there are plenty of sites out there for queens like you.

Posted March 10, 2014 8:25 pm 


Roger Tileman actually deducted a point from Reid for hitting Ottke.

Reid was robbed blind by both Ottke and Calzaghe.

Posted March 10, 2014 8:19 pm 

Ray Ray

Yep guys like Ottke is y others aren’t willing 2 travel….it’s a fine line, take the shot overseas get robbed or called a ducker 4 not taking it?

Posted March 10, 2014 8:11 pm 

Freddie Roach Ate My Hamster

If Ottke was beaten from pillar to post he’d have won by SD, Reid & Brewer both beat him comfortably & got screwed over (both gave Calzaghe trouble too).

Posted March 10, 2014 8:07 pm 

Passport Ward

Ward if he fought the winner, it would be his first away fight, PPV fight, he would have an opportunity there in one, the doubters who say he will not fight away and is he a PPV fighter, fight at home it will probably be PPV, but it could be fight away and PPV, perfect opportunity to be a respected top fighter Worldwide.

Posted March 10, 2014 8:01 pm 

Ray Ray

Freddie- Yes Ottke beat mundine…Think it was Mundines 9th pro fight, no amatuer career and was ranked like 18th at the time 4 ottkes belt. Watch the highlights of that fight…Otkke was getting hit everywhere. If mundine didn’t have a glass jaw he would have won? No he wouldn’t have it was in Germany

Posted March 10, 2014 8:00 pm 

Ray Ray

Dave ha ha ha u goose. Just like anonymous uv never had a girlfriend? I’m writing in short txt form ha ha. Shorten some words so u can txt faster…

Posted March 10, 2014 7:57 pm 



Don’t waste your time, he’s an idiot.

Posted March 10, 2014 7:49 pm 


Ray Ray try using spell check you retard. LOL

Posted March 10, 2014 7:48 pm 

Freddie Roach Ate My Hamster

Apologies in advance:

Didn’t Ottke beat the Aussie Mundine?! Sorry, low blow!

Posted March 10, 2014 7:48 pm 


Freddie Roach Ate My Hamster

100% agree with you. Good post.

Posted March 10, 2014 7:46 pm 

Ray Ray

Freddie-ha ha ha iv only seen Ottke do the robbing? Soz again Barlow.

Posted March 10, 2014 7:42 pm 

Ray Ray

Anonymous-oouch u really nailed me there? Ray Ray stick 2 ur awesome beaches and BBQ’s in the great weather. U left out, give ur hot wife a dawn buster? Got a good early morning shot away….than a surf, than came home 2 a cooked breakfast just now….yep, y would I b in any other country…I am worried u new what my day consisted of though?

Posted March 10, 2014 7:41 pm 

Freddie Roach Ate My Hamster

I used to live in Germany (served there in the UK army) & German fans were 100% convinced that Ottke was better than Calzaghe. Their papers had plenty of stories about Calzaghe, Popkins & RJJ ducking Ottke because they would only fight at home (he wouldn’t go to them as he’d be robbed by a home decision). Obviously anyone who saw Ottke and the others mentioned fighting will laugh this off but it shows how polarised opinions can be.

It is said that you haven’t made it big until you’ve made it in America (Hatton & Calzaghe both echoed the statement) but it’s also said that a foreign fighter needs a KO to earn a draw in the States (admittedly that originated back when the mob ran boxing). I personally would love to see a massive US star in the UK. If the winner of this fight had a home fight against Ward it could be another Wembley sell-out & a US PPV fight – why not?

Posted March 10, 2014 7:40 pm 


Froch never had any options other to drop the belt and lose face.

Groves forced him into a corner and Hearn knows he’s on his last legs.

This is Frochs pension and swansong.

Posted March 10, 2014 7:39 pm 


The Chelsea fans will be out in force for Groves. He’s a blue and they will bring the house down at Wembley.

Posted March 10, 2014 7:39 pm 

Ray Ray

Agree would love 2 c Ward fight @ wembley v the winner? Froch has already stated he wants Ward 4 his last fight so Ward would only b fighting there if Groves wins? Sorry Boxing Barlow…won’t mention z German again.

Posted March 10, 2014 7:36 pm 


Ray Ray stick to surfing and barbies you’re full of crap hahahaha!

Posted March 10, 2014 7:36 pm 

R Soles

Great fight, doods!

Posted March 10, 2014 7:28 pm 

boxing barlow

Argh! dont mention Sven Ottke!

Posted March 10, 2014 7:26 pm 

Passport Ward

Ward would get recognition by fighting away, he is meant to be the top 168 fighter, high in the P4P rankings, fight the winner of this fight away and it will probably be his first PPV.

Posted March 10, 2014 7:24 pm 

Ray Ray

Eric I’m not denying that European guys have had very great careers $$$$ without the states. U get more recognition world wide if u beat big names in the states? Guys like Kessler, Calzaghe would b viewed 5x better than they are now. I don’t like it either but that’s how it is? No Sven ottkes

Posted March 10, 2014 7:17 pm 

Ray Ray

Anonymous-so French aren’t u? Arrogant. I didn’t say I liked USA being the Mecca of boxing? Doesn’t matter what any1 thinks that’s just the way it is… Best country ever? I live in Australia, y the f..k would I call any country better than here? Good wages, weather, beaches, relaxed people….I’m living in the best country.

Posted March 10, 2014 7:13 pm 

boxing barlow

Huge Huge risk because as much as Ive talked Froch down I still think he would have beat Chavez jnr. I even think he would have beat GGG had he stepped up to super middle.

Posted March 10, 2014 7:13 pm 


Many boxers have hit the big spotlight in European nations with very lucrative careers, I can name 10 off the top of my head that made millions.
America is important but truthful y not as important as we big ego Americans think.
Very few America fighters can sell out a venue here and it has to be Vegas or new york, jersey, texas.
Devon Alexander vs tim Bradley in Detroit sold like two thousand tickets, sure it was slightly before they were well know but that is still lame.

Posted March 10, 2014 7:12 pm 

boxing barlow

Yeah I agree Froch deserves credit for taking the rematch. At the end of the day he didnt have to. He did have other options, and this fight is a huge huge risk.

Posted March 10, 2014 7:12 pm 


Being English and residing in the USA I can’t say it gets much better for sport on a Saturday. 8-10am Football, 12pm British and European fight cards start and 7pm most Friday and Saturday evenings there’s a decent card on FNF or HBO/SHO on a Saturday night in the US.

The icing on the cake is that EVERYTHING is FREE on the internet!!!

Posted March 10, 2014 7:09 pm 

Ray Ray

No anonymous craps what comes out of ur mouth….the coin is in the states. If u think otherwise ur a clown. Imagine how Klitchko would b viewed legacy wise? He’d b talked up with the best ever? Now, I still think he’s up there but on most so called experts he wouldn’t b top 10? Think about it anonymous.

Posted March 10, 2014 7:09 pm 


In a minute Ray Ray will be claiming that the USA is the greatest country in the world. LOL

Posted March 10, 2014 7:09 pm 

Passport Ward

Andre Ward should fight the winner and he should fight in the UK also, Ward needs to prove himself by fighting away, he wouldn’t do it in the super six tournament, the perfect opportunity to get a PPV fight and fight away, if he still says it’s fight at home then he can’t be respected for that.

Posted March 10, 2014 7:08 pm 

Fight Aficionado

“Froch repeatedly said he would not give Groves a rematch, but the IBF ordered a rematch. It’s all over the internet, so this rubbish that Froch “gave Groves a rematch” is crap.” – True the IBF mandated it but many of us presumed he’d ignore that and let them strip him for a money fight against Chavez Jr. Turns out Froch-Groves is probably a bigger money bout. Either way Froch is a big enough star he can ignore alphabet belts if he wants. That’s why I give him credit for doing it.

Posted March 10, 2014 7:06 pm 

Ray Ray

Imagine how big Klitchko would b if he had of fought more in the states? Groves is a star in the UK but Froch is known world wide? Maybe that’s y people have sided with the more local guy? I no who’s career I’d rather?

Posted March 10, 2014 7:05 pm 


Ray Ray

Yeah Europe gets the crowds….but u have 2 crack the big time in the states 2 rule the world. If a European is happy being big in Europe & not the US than don’t fight there. The cash and world wide recognition is owning every1 in the states….Like it or not that’s how it is.

Total crap! hahahaha but by all means believe that BS if you want to.

Posted March 10, 2014 7:04 pm 


“Bika, Abraham, Kessler, Froch, former light heavy champ in Dawson? Zero near his name. That’s who says ward is no.2 p4p. I’d get use 2 him being there 2. Going 2 b 4 a few more yrs yet…”

Bika – he’s crap! I laugh every time I watch him. Falling about swinging wildly like a drunk man.

Abraham – slow plodding bum.

Kessler – hasn’t been any good for years.

Froch – overrated robot.

Dawson – KO’d in the first round against Stevenson. Ward took 10 rounds to TKO him.

And Ward number 2 P4P ??? HAHAHAHA! Yeah right.

When Ward fights Kovalev and beats him then I MIGHT think he’s worthy of a top 10 place. But the reality is Kovalev would slaughter him. Best thing Ward can do is stay in his backyard like he always does fighting bums with nobody watching him because its become very obvious he doesn’t have the guts to fight outside the USA because he won’t have the hometown ref and judges helping him.

P4P number 2 … LMAFO! ridiculous.

Posted March 10, 2014 7:03 pm 

Ray Ray

Yeah Europe gets the crowds….but u have 2 crack the big time in the states 2 rule the world. If a European is happy being big in Europe & not the US than don’t fight there. The cash and world wide recognition is owning every1 in the states….Like it or not that’s how it is.

Posted March 10, 2014 7:00 pm 

Freddie Roach Ate My Hamster

Saying that Groves was Froch’s mandatory makes it sound like he was #1 challenger. Groves was ranked 5th by the IBF & Froch had to fight against any top 10 fighter for his mandatory defence. Froch probably looked at Groves as a comfortable win in front of his UK fans & nice little earner whilst negotiating for the big Vegas dream fight. He let Groves get under his skin & underestimated him, both were obvious in the first few rounds (GG on the other hand gave Froch too much respect or he’d have finished him). Groves was still not #1 challenger when the rematch was ordered, hence the 85/15% purse split if it had gone to bids. The biggest winner of course is Hearn. No matter what happens in this fight, Groves is a serious contender now and only Andre Ward would have an easy night against him.

The less said about Froch’s brothers the better – Lee was a mediocre Light HW from what I remember (sure he was on a couple of Carl’s early cards). I don’t think Groves will lose any sleep over anything they say to him. At least they’re not kicking off with his family like Zab Judah vs FMJ!

On a positive note, it’s amazing that so many tickets sold so quickly – I remember the boastful story yesterday that GBP sold 14 500 in a day for Floyd vs Chino, 60 000 in an hour! There can’t be a big-time boxer alive who wouldn’t want to fight in front of a crowd like that!

Posted March 10, 2014 6:57 pm 

Ray Ray

Ward v Groves? Clinic. Groves would b hoping 2 b KO’d instead of bashed 4 12 rnds v ward. Groves must b popular in the UK? Every1 loved Froch? Than boom turned on him 4 what? Getting off the canvas and knocking Groves out? Froch wins this easier in my opinion.

Posted March 10, 2014 6:57 pm 


spartacrust yeah I agree Ward’s fights send me to sleep, so do Mayweather fights, I stopped watching them, I wanna see a war, with blood and thunder.

Posted March 10, 2014 6:53 pm 

Joanne Bugner

Im not so sure Ward beats Groves, styles make fights, and weve yet to see Ward fight a fast handed, hard hitting MOBILE fighter.

Posted March 10, 2014 6:52 pm 


The USA is supposed to be the home of boxing, those days are long, Europe gets much bigger crowds for the big fights. USA fights promoters are a pretty stupid not to realize this and act upon it. What’s the average crowds for a big fight in the US about 15 to 20,000 at best? Compared to 50,000 to 80,000 in Europe. The numbers speak for themselves.

Posted March 10, 2014 6:49 pm 

Ray Ray

People who can’t appreciate the sweet science want a war? But I agree Froch knocking groves out again will b entertaining.

Posted March 10, 2014 6:47 pm 


I’m not really bothered what ward would do to either froch or groves…froch and groves is a great fight for the fans, they will both be up for it big time and it will be a cracking fight for the fans, a proper barn burner! Not a snooze fest like every ward fight, he will never have as many fans as froch or groves lol no body cares if you’re a great boxer, people want to see a war.

Posted March 10, 2014 6:38 pm 

Ray Ray

Anonymous-Bika, Abraham, Kessler, Froch, former light heavy champ in Dawson? Zero near his name. That’s who says ward is no.2 p4p. I’d get use 2 him being there 2. Going 2 b 4 a few more yrs yet…

Posted March 10, 2014 6:37 pm 

boxing barlow

Also tax is an issue apparently.

Posted March 10, 2014 6:34 pm 

boxing barlow

The only thing that stops the massive fights happening here in the UK is the time difference. We get the crowds but its the USA who get the PPV which is worth more and they dont want to pay for a fight thats gonna be on at 5pm in the afternoon their time.

Posted March 10, 2014 6:34 pm 


Lee Froch makes Carl look like a fool. If I was his brother I’d tell him to shut up.

Posted March 10, 2014 6:29 pm 


Who says Ward is the P4P number 2? Oh yeah Americans. LOL

Posted March 10, 2014 6:26 pm 


“60,000 tickets were sold in less than an hour for Froch-Groves 2. Is there a match that would come close to that number in the USA?”…so says Nigel Collins of ESPN. So why is it then that “p4p number #2″ Andre Ward can only fight at home? For the big crowds he draws??. Britain and Germany are where 168lb is at, Ward, Dirrell and all the others are this generation’s James Toney and they’ll likewise be fighting into their 40s, cursing that they never stepped up while the world still cared about them.

Posted March 10, 2014 5:53 pm 



“Alot of people thought Froch wouldnt give Groves the rematch”

Froch repeatedly said he would not give Groves a rematch, but the IBF ordered a rematch. It’s all over the internet, so this rubbish that Froch “gave Groves a rematch” is crap. It’s the same as in the first fight when Froch said he “gave Groves a shot at the title” that’s crap as well. Groves was the mandatory challenger if Froch refused the fight he would of been stripped of the title and Groves would of fought someone else. Froch is full of crap, he always has been. Froch will lose the rematch against Groves by an early KO and Groves will be the new WBA and IBF world champion. This will lead to another mega rematch between George Groves v James Degale next year. IF Groves wins that fight, this will probably lead to a Groves v Ward super fight in the USA which Groves will lose convincingly.

Posted March 10, 2014 5:50 pm 

boxing barlow

Anyway, are we all in agreement to what absolute gimps Froch’s brothers are? Have you seen the youtuve vids?

Posted March 10, 2014 5:41 pm 


Anonymous, kenny Anderson was Ko’d by Groves, legitimately and decisively. Froch got a gift/ robbery decision vs Groves. The two fights are in no way comparable.
Also Kenny Anderson is a shot fighter now. He’ll be on the scrap heap like Ricky Burns soon.

Posted March 10, 2014 5:40 pm 

Türkish boxing fan

Froch took too much punishment in the first one. Groves by points. I hope Froch wins though.

Posted March 10, 2014 5:37 pm 


Yep fair play to Froch for taking the rematch. He’s always taken the hard road, and still is. May the best man win!

Posted March 10, 2014 5:26 pm 


nice to see whinger ginger groves has conveniently forgotten he pulled out of his rematch with Kenny Anderson, which was a carbon copy of his fight with FROCH.
apparently the whinging w8nker received a few death threats from g8nsters that he would be sh8t in the ring if he fought Kenny, so like his pal David HAYE invented a back injury to pull out.
This shows the true nature of the c8nt. He should have fought Kenny and taken his lumps in the ring.
Hope Kenny turns up to ringside and demands his rematch from this ginger w8nker.

anyone who hasn’t seen the hypocrites match with Anderson will see what a lying! conniving weasel he really is.

Posted March 10, 2014 5:23 pm 

Fight Aficionado

“Alot of people thought Froch wouldnt give Groves the rematch…I had a feeling he would theres to much money involved.Froch will be more ready this time…” – Cosign. We should give Froch credit for doing the right thing. I was one of his critics when it appeared he wouldn’t do the rematch. I also think he’ll perform better than last time and win in more convincing fashion.

Posted March 10, 2014 5:16 pm 

boxing barlow

Anonymous – Your right. Froch is a great fighter! I bet him to beat Bute and won a nice bit of money wehen everyone was tipping him to get beat. I jumped off my seat cheering him on in that last round against Taylor. Froch has kept me entertained for years now. But it dont take away from the fact Calzaghe was miles ahead in terms of career. And it will wont help him when Groves beats him in this up coming fight. But I can see your point, I’m not giving him enough credit, I’m no hater its just my opinion.

Posted March 10, 2014 5:13 pm 


Boxing ?Barlow do you not remember that that fight was on/off due to the acid cloud over Europe? FROCH had to drive halfway across Europe as no planes were moving. It was in the balance right up until a couple of days before the fight. FROCH was not in either the right frame of mind or condition to fight after a 14 hour drive through Europe. if you don’t believe check up the run up to this fight on the internet and let me know if I am making any of this up?
FROCH was doing well until he got a body shot in the 4th or 5th and took a couple fronds to get over it, just like Kessler did when he fought in Joe’s backyard at Millenium Stadium.
Joe refused to give KESSLER a rematch in Denmark as he knew Kessler had learned from his mistakes and would possibly have won a rematch in Denmark.
FROCH would never get a decision in front of KESSLER’S rabid Danish fans and in my book was a little too reckless early on and lost by 1 point in the fight of the year. Watch that fight again. It reminds me of the last round between HUCK and afolabi the rematch and was much better than FROCH vs Kessler II, which is also one of the best fights we have seen in UK.
People seem to forget that FROCH has had some of them greatest fights ever seen in UK.
and abroad

Name me another British fighter with a ledger like his?
No. You can’t, can you?
People on here have such short memories, don’t they?

Posted March 10, 2014 5:01 pm 


Alot of people thought Froch wouldnt give Groves the rematch…I had a feeling he would theres to much money involved.Froch will be more ready this time,unless Froch really lost a few steps recently…I excpect him to win.

Posted March 10, 2014 5:01 pm 




Carl Froch vs George Groves – the aftermath…


Just watched that youtube video! Thanks Anon. Very interesting and very true!

Posted March 10, 2014 4:51 pm 


Froch took Groves too lightly in the first fight, got careless and was clocked real good. Then he got up and did what he does – systematically broke Groves down to (IMO) a well advised stoppage. He will beat Groves decisively this time – I guarantee it- Groves is simply not that good a fighter and Froch will step up his performance.

Posted March 10, 2014 4:49 pm 


Groves stepped in it.. He pissed Froch off.. He’ll pay dearly.

Posted March 10, 2014 4:32 pm 


TO BOXING BARLOW AND ANONYMOUS: First, I was one of the people who felt that in the first Froch-Kessler fight, that Froch should have gotten the decision in a close fight. Second, Froch is not far off when he says he lost a very close fight to Ward. While the British judge had Ward winning pretty comfortably, the other judges had it 7-5. In fact, they had Froch winning some of the early rounds, and then gave Ward the late rounds, though it appeared that Froch may have won 3 of the last 4, as Ward was having some body problems then. Even one of the ringside reporters on Showtime, an man from Great Britain had it a draw. I don’t denie that Ward won, I think I had it 9-3 or 8-4. If those judges had scored the last few rounds for Froch, this could have been incredibly a draw, though Froch certainly would not have deserved it.

Posted March 10, 2014 4:28 pm 

Froch is going down!

In the video I saw today, after Froch shoved Groves you can see Groves go to Eddie and say “Eddie, sort your boy out.”

And yet Eddie ‘the snake’ Hearn is also Groves promoter.

Says it all really doesn’t it.

Watch Eddie switch sides when Groves beats Froch.

Posted March 10, 2014 4:22 pm 


eric.are you a labour mp.

Posted March 10, 2014 4:19 pm 


watch this video on youtube …


Carl Froch vs George Groves – the aftermath…

This sums up Carl Froch nicely. Froch is an arrogant idiot.


Posted March 10, 2014 4:17 pm 

boxing barlow

Froch still debates the fact that he lost against Kessler first time round! If there was ever a bigger loss for Froch it was that fight. I expected Kessler to just outbox and outclass him but Kessler actually went toe to toe with Froch, fought him at his own game and back Froch up all night! Also claims of being the best British super middleweight of all time!

Posted March 10, 2014 4:15 pm 


Froch is a deluded moron, he’s been talking utter crap for a decade. Here’s a shining example.

“My fight with Ward was a very close fight.” LMAO

Froch lost every round against Ward, that fight was a landslide. This is typical of Froch, he really believes his own crap. Look at him in today’s videos with his thug brother Lee.
I can’t wait to see Froch get nailed by Groves.

Posted March 10, 2014 4:09 pm 

Freddie Roach Ate My Hamster

It’s boxing, not dancing. Show me a boxer who didn’t engage in any rough stuff & I’ll show you a boxer who lost because of it. Groves bent a few rules against Froch too and even Mayweather, Sweet Pea and SRL mixed it up a bit. Complaining about Froch’s fouls and ignoring Groves’ is just bias.

Posted March 10, 2014 3:55 pm 


This is how a fight sells when people are not racist. Take notes Americans

Posted March 10, 2014 3:55 pm 


the super fit george groves who runs out of gas after 7 rounds. total joke.

Posted March 10, 2014 3:52 pm 


Groves getting smart in insisting on non-UK officials, except Hearns can pay those guys off too! Aside from the stoppage, Froch was allowed cheap shots after the bell virtually every round. Judges even scored the fight close when it was totally one-sided. I doubt Groves would get a fair shake. Pity.

Posted March 10, 2014 3:48 pm 


you sux Anonymous.

Posted March 10, 2014 3:46 pm 


I still don’t like the prick but Groves is not a mug. Everyone is saying that he can just box Froch for 12 rounds and win, but everyone said that last time and instead he went at Froch.
Groves has said a couple of times now that he sees it as a three round fight. That tells me he is going to go at Froch all out to finish him early – maybe he takes heart from the fact that in the last fight Froch was all over the place for the first couple of rounds.
I think Groves will win because if his blast out attempt fails, he can still use his boxing ability, but I’m glad that he’s using a tactic that gives Froch his best chance of victory.

Posted March 10, 2014 3:36 pm 


Froch was never the number 1 ranked contender at 168 (in any sensible respected rankings such as Ring, Boxing monthly etc. Alphabet soup doesn’t count) while Calzaghe was still active.

Posted March 10, 2014 3:36 pm 


Oh yeah and Calzaghe beats Froch everyday of the week.

Posted March 10, 2014 3:35 pm 


Froch will get the KO again. Too many people are going with their hearts in this one. Their dislike for Froch is shining through and it is going to lose them money. Froch has the mental battle won already and he knows he can win the physical battle, as done last time.

Posted March 10, 2014 3:35 pm 

boxing barlow

I agree it was fair point Froch wanting to fight Joe. But on the flip side you could understand Joe not wanting to fight Froch. The problem Joe had was in a similar fashion to what happened with Pavlik and Hopkins, Froch could have just gone on to be beat multiple times by lesser fighters. Every man and his dog at the time of the Jones Jnr fight were slating Joe for not fighting Pavlik. They were saying he was running scared and taking the easy option in fighting Jones. Looking back and seeing Pavlik get handles easily by other fighters no one now looks back at the Pavlik fight and goes on about Joe ducking that fight. The same could have happened with Froch. As it turns out Froch has had a good career and if Calzaghe had have added his name to his resume it would have been an impressive win.

Posted March 10, 2014 3:31 pm 


Boxing Barlow…Yep. A faded Kessler put the first nail in the Calzaghe v Froch argument by beating him in their first fight. Groves added the second. And if Groves wins the rematch, he’ll put the final nail in that debate. Taylor and Groves were able to toy with Froch at times. There’s no way Calzaghe’s stamina would have let him down that’s for sure. Carl wouldn’t hav been able to claw his way back into the fight against an experienced, big super middleweight with the kind of work rate the Welshman had.

Posted March 10, 2014 3:31 pm 


froch again only this time earlier.

Posted March 10, 2014 3:12 pm 


Groves KO’s Froch in the first round!

Posted March 10, 2014 3:10 pm 

Killing Moon The Soothsayer

Boxing Barlow : Very much doubt it…Lazy was a pretty straight-forward guy with a big punch and also a very clean fighter…Corner Froch like that and he’ll elbow,bodycheck and make wild KO swings to get out of it…Lazy just took it and had no answers…I’m not saying Froch could have beat Calzaghe…But it wouldn’t have gone down like that…Froch reacts in a very animalesque way when push comes to shove….

Posted March 10, 2014 3:08 pm 


Calzaghe always was miles ahead of Froch in terms of talent. A prime Calzaghe would of beaten him and Groves easily.

Posted March 10, 2014 3:06 pm 

Freddie Roach Ate My Hamster

First of all, the Calzaghe thing. People who dislike Froch always go on about Calzaghe, as if it’s ridiculous that Froch (as #1 contender) wanted to fight Joe. I personally am a fan of both & reckon that if Joe fought Froch instead of Popkins he’d have walked it. Prime JC against prime CF would be similar to the Reid or Kessler fights, which were Joe’s closest fights but still wins.

Agree that Froch made bad career choices – being with Hennessey for years cost him recognition and a lot of money.

Posted March 10, 2014 3:04 pm 

boxing barlow

Anonymous – Hearn looks like he’s bricking it to me as he’s probably going to loose his cash cow.

Posted March 10, 2014 3:04 pm 


Groves by NAIL biting decision or late stoppage.

Posted March 10, 2014 3:01 pm 


Eddie Hearn is such a two faced snake, he’s just like Don King and Bob Arum. Don’t lend him the keys to your car you won’t get it back. You’ll spend the rest of your life watching him wave at you as he drives by in it as though it was his all along. LOL

Posted March 10, 2014 3:00 pm 

boxing barlow

Popkins – Agreed. Anyone with any kind of boxing knowledge knows that Calzaghe would have beat Froch around the ring for 12 rounds in a similar way to the Jeff Lacey fight. Froch was Taylor made for Calzaghe. Froch would have took the kind of beating that he did against Groves and Taylor for the first 6 rounds, aganst Calzaghe for 12 because Joe never gassed out once.

Posted March 10, 2014 2:54 pm 

Fight Aficionado

If the 60K figure is correct that means it was 75% sold out in an hour. Sick. A legit Superfight in England.

Posted March 10, 2014 2:52 pm 


boxing barlow good points mate. I can easily forsee a fight where Froch is barely able to land. I hope this time the referee doesn’t allow Froch to throw so many blatant foul punches either.

Posted March 10, 2014 2:50 pm 

Freddie Roach Ate My Hamster

Let’s see if GG ends the night crying and acting like a wannabe bully who’s being punished. That’s how he came across after losing last time. I wouldn’t be surprised if he is worn down, then takes too much punishment and gets busted up because the ref won’t want to step in too early.

Posted March 10, 2014 2:50 pm 

boxing barlow

Gonzo the Dragonborn aka The New Edgar Allan Poe (Thus Quoth the Vulture) – Worst thing about Froch was that he really had an opportunity in my opinion when Calzaghe and Hatton retired to push himself as the next big thing in British boxing. I know he’s big news now but the reality is it should have come a lot sooner and I think the reason why is solely down to his poor attitude and big mouth. I’m sure if my memeory serves me right his fight with Taylor was not even broadcast live in the UK! I can remember watching it as a re run on ITV2 or something the next day. Dirrell, Kessler, Abraham, and Johnson were all huge fights but he got no mainstream attention what so ever. PEople keep talking about the fact that this fight is beating the previous record held for a British fight by Ricky Hatton. But Ricky Hatton fought Lazcano! I bet 70% of the people in that crowd had never even heard of Lazcano before that fight let alone ever watched any of his fights. Froch on the other hand was fighting one of the heardest runs of fights seen by any fighter over the past 10 years yet no one ouside the hard core boxing fan cared. This was a big mis management on his teams part and a huge mistake by Froch himself.

Posted March 10, 2014 2:49 pm 


Joe and Enzo Calzaghe will enjoy cracking open a couple of cans and watching this one, cheering Groves on every step of the way!

Posted March 10, 2014 2:46 pm 

boxing barlow

I think Groves has got to fight a similar fight that he did against Degale. He’s got to be elusive and on his toes. Froch is now going to be expecting to loose the first 5 or so rounds. He needs to use his superior boxing skills to just pot shot Froch with scoing points while using footwork and relexes to aviod taking any shots from Froch. Basically look at how Dirrell did against Froch but Groves needs to throw more shots than Dirrell did. I think Groves can canter to winning the first 5 rounds without using up much energy. The second half of the fight is then where he can really take hold of it and he can up the tempo a little and fight in a similar fashion to how he fought the first 8 rounds of the first fight. But this time there will be no ref to swing it for Froch. He will be desperate and will be coming forward at all costs. If Groves has done the work in the gym and coasts the first 5 or 6 rounds he will have the energy in the tank to weather any kind of Froch attack and to hit Froch with meaningful shots.

Posted March 10, 2014 2:40 pm 


Groves.., “I’ll hit Froch wherever I want—on the chin, on the ear, on the nose, in the ribs.”

Ouch!!! GG picked some prime locations on Froch’s body… Sounds like a real party… As though he’ll be punching Froch around at will… Blood flowing all over the place by the 3rd round … and he’s just getting started with bashing Carl’s head in at that point.

If Groves were a master I’d fear for Froch’s life… Reality is going to be quite different.

Posted March 10, 2014 2:39 pm 

Gonzo the Dragonborn aka The New Edgar Allan Poe (Thus Quoth the Vulture)

Well said Brother Boxing Barlow. I agree with that. I’m a Froch fan too, but his big gob, delusions of grandeur and planet sized ego definitely makes it difficult to remain being so at times. Like Brother Killing Moon, I too think that deep down he’s a good guy. However, there’s no question he’s a bit of a strange one. At times he’s very witty, likeable and charming, and yet at others he’s immensely annoying and dislikeable.

I don’t doubt for a second Froch believes a lot of the outrageous crap he comes out with. That said, I do also think that sometimes it really seems like he’s trying to convince himself it’s true more than anyone else.

Posted March 10, 2014 2:31 pm 

Froch is going down!

At Wembley, Groves KO’s Froch very early in the fight.

Expect a trilogy. With the third fight in Vegas. Groves KO’s Froch again for a second time to seal his dominance.

Posted March 10, 2014 2:29 pm 

Killing Moon The Soothsayer

I believe Froch is a good guy, but he can be a bit of a Kunt…He doesn’t annoy me on the level of a Broner,Fury,Malignaggi,Mayweather,Haye…but sometimes you just gotta roll your eyes….

For me the fight is all about how smart Groves is …Because you can outbox Froch but if you go toe to toe with him you’re crazy or have an Iron chin like Kessler…Froch is a bully who’ll eventually get to you and he’s able to fight at the same tempo for all 12 rounds(Which isn’t that fast, unless you tire) So it’s all about movement and stamina for Groves if he wants to win…Personally I just don’t see Groves having the Boxing I.Q to hold Froch back for 12.rounds…So i’ll take Froch by K.O in 7th ir 8th round prolly behind on the scorecards…

Posted March 10, 2014 2:19 pm 

Froch is going down!

At Wembley stadium, in front of Groves hometown fans, the vast majority of 80,000 cheering for Groves when he makes his way to the ring. Then when Froch is announced and he makes his way to the ring there will be a roar of boos and he will know he is enemy. Froch used to be respected but he is now disliked by many, especially in London! I’d say 90% of that massive crowd will be cheering on Groves and there’s nothing Froch can do about it. This will spur Groves on to victory and he will win by KO. Froch is going down!

Posted March 10, 2014 2:18 pm 

boxing barlow

Groves trying to KO froch is a huge risk imo. If he failed Froch will undoubtedly catch up with him later in the fight. I expect Groves to box more conservatively this time saving energy for the end of the fight.

Posted March 10, 2014 2:09 pm 


Like last time

“Froch will win with a mid to late fight stoppage. Anyone stupid enough to put their money on groves deserves to lose it. Froch Might not look like a boxing genius in the fight but since when has that stopped him winning countless championship fights?”

When Groves KO’s Froch you will change your name and pretend you never said those words.

Groves knows he can knock out Froch from the previous fight he hammered him all around the ring until he ran out of gas, this time he won’t let Froch get that far, Groves will knock out Froch early in the fight. Groves is much faster than Froch has far better boxing ability and has the power to knock out any SMW in the world.

Froch is at the end of his career and it shows, his punch resistence is much worse now and there’s nothing he can do about it because it happens to all boxers when they get old. After the last fight Groves is on a mission to put the record straight and that’s exactly what he will do. Superior speed and far better boxing ability and good punch power will win. Groves wins by knock out early in the fight.

Posted March 10, 2014 2:05 pm 

boxing barlow

Gonzo the Dragonborn aka The New Edgar Allan Poe (Thus Quoth the Vulture) – I’m guessing their of of a similar ilk. I’ve always been a huge fan of Froch the fighter, but as a person I’ve always struggled to get behind him. Over the years I’ve watched interviews and some of whats come out of his mouth has made me cringe big time. Whats worse is Ive actually come to the conclusion that unlike with most fighters who use the trash talk as promotional tool, this guy actually beleives the rubbish that comes out of his mouth. I mean this is a guy who had the whole crowd chanting his name and on his side before the fight, wins the fight and then gets booed. And that was all down to his distorted thinking. Even Eubank and Benn who hated each other with a passion, if you see their interviews after the first fight all Eubank does is talk Benn up and vise versa.

Posted March 10, 2014 1:59 pm 

Gonzo the Dragonborn aka The New Edgar Allan Poe (Thus Quoth the Vulture)

Yes they are Boxing Barlow. Lee is a bell-end with a capital B. I would’ve loved it if Ginger George Groves ran over to him and gave him a big meaty slap across his bloated balloon face. lol

Posted March 10, 2014 1:49 pm 

boxing barlow

Gonzo the Dragonborn aka The New Edgar Allan Poe (Thus Quoth the Vulture) – Have literally just watched it! they are a right bunch of morons!

Posted March 10, 2014 1:40 pm 

boxing barlow

Has anyone seen Froch’s brothers behaviour at the press conference and the face off at Wembley? What a bunch of gimps lol.

Posted March 10, 2014 1:39 pm 

Gonzo the Dragonborn aka The New Edgar Allan Poe (Thus Quoth the Vulture)

Video of Froch pushing GGG aka Ginger George Groves

Lee Froch is such a monumental twat. Check out how cool he’s looking in that leather jacket and shades. lol

Posted March 10, 2014 1:37 pm 

Stevie C

Come fight night all of groves mind games and talk wont matter, froch will take groves into deep waters. Nothing will change groves chin, nothing will change his mental weakness when it gets tough at the end, nothing stop him blowing out his arse come 9 th round.
This has froch late stoppage written all over it.

Posted March 10, 2014 1:35 pm 

Like last time

Froch will win with a mid to late fight stoppage. Anyone stupid enough to put their money on groves deserves to lose it. Froch Might not look like a boxing genius in the fight but since when has that stopped him winning countless championship fights?

Posted March 10, 2014 1:30 pm 


Froch by KO hopefully brutally

Posted March 10, 2014 1:28 pm 


Ill take Froch by stoppage again, only this time it will be legit

Posted March 10, 2014 1:18 pm 

boxing barlow

Anonymous – Its not a pushing competition though. Fight night Groves is gonna take Froch to school big time. Groves can make adjustments and do a better job than last time. There are no adjustments Froch can make. He cant get any faster. His reflexes can not get any sharper. His only chance is to hope he can walk Groves down enough to get the KO and this time no referee is gonna dare to stop it early so the KO will have to be a definitive one. Groves on the other hand will be better conditioned. He will be more economical with his attacking and will be saving energy for a late Froch onslaught. This has Groves on points written all over it.

Posted March 10, 2014 1:09 pm 


Got some cracking seats for this!

Posted March 10, 2014 1:02 pm 


Nice one! FROCH pushes Groves and the little whinger backed off the losing CARL if you do that again, but Carl stopped him in his tracks and said, “I’ve done it already! what are you going to do about it?”

whinger backs down and then whines to EDDIE…..

you couldn’t make it up!

Posted March 10, 2014 12:45 pm 

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