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Op Amp

Lmao @ Harry! As if I would read all your bull s h it after my last post. You wasted your time idiot. Lol. You have not said ONE thing to intellectually refute ANYTHING I said. Why on earth would I entertain a debate with you?? I am blessed with insight and knowledge, and don’t waste my time on “closed doors” with low IQ. Lol Mental midget!

Posted March 25, 2014 3:06 pm 


Joseph Herron

Golden Boy Promotions is top heavy and doesn’t pay out as well as they should

Posted March 23, 2014 10:55 am 


Anonymous

That’s a damned shame if you’re right. If you have only 1 loss in 38 fights, and you’re fighting a world heavyweight title elimination fight, against a terrific puncher nobody wants to fight? You ought to get paid something.

Haye and Fury were set to get over 5 million each. You might think Scott was worthy of a paycheck maybe one seventeeth that size — if he’s fighting a guy Fury and Arreola are afraid to get into a ring with.

Posted March 23, 2014 1:44 am 


Joseph Herron

Anonymous: “I think Malik got about 300,000. Not very much for fighting a super dangerous guy like Wilder. Maybe he wanted to give them their money’s worth.”

There’s no way Malik made that much. I would be surprised if he made half of that.

Posted March 22, 2014 8:59 pm 


Dave

“I think Malik got about 300,000.”

But how much did he get for betting on a first round KO ;-)?

Posted March 22, 2014 7:51 pm 


Anonymous

I think Malik got about 300,000. Not very much for fighting a super dangerous guy like Wilder. Maybe he wanted to give them their money’s worth.

Posted March 22, 2014 7:36 pm 


scottyboy

Does this author actually believe what is writing…’cracking left hook/straight right’???

Posted March 22, 2014 6:01 pm 


granite chin

Malik was paid. With a chocolate bar.

Posted March 22, 2014 12:18 pm 


rod

wilder vs the winner of stiverne/arreola or thompson/solis would be interesting.

Posted March 22, 2014 10:24 am 


Ahhh…

Don’t let those two guys near Wilder. Buy them a policy first.

Posted March 22, 2014 1:19 am 


badger

vinny madalone could do better than scott. where is brian minto???

Posted March 22, 2014 1:01 am 


Hidalg0

I mean the boundary lines ARE the ropes and ring posts. LOL—if I could only type better.

Posted March 21, 2014 11:39 pm 


Hidalg0

Because they still fight within a boundary that is not marked off by ropes and ring posts. So, it’s got the nickname of the squared circle, square circle, or square ring.

Posted March 21, 2014 11:39 pm 


Hidalg0

“Hidalg0. What is square circle ? I hear people who think they know boxing calling a square ring a square circle nothing can be so annoying.”

Sorry, I haven’t been online much today. I just saw your question, Fighting Words.

For one thing, boxers used to fight within the line of a circle that was drawn on the ground or floor. They couldn’t go outside the circle while fighting. And the crowd watching the fight would stand around the perimeter of the circle cheering for their favorite and often assisting him in any way they could to help him win the fight. The moniker “ring” has persisted because they still fight within a specific boundary which

Posted March 21, 2014 11:37 pm 


Hectarded

The date ended early. Wilder said “goodnight.”

Some dates are such a bust. That wasn’t very romantic.

Posted March 21, 2014 9:16 pm 


badger

fighters fight. scott looked like he was on a date with wilder. finally watched this joke on you tube. do not buy showtime.

Posted March 21, 2014 9:06 pm 


BILLY NO MEDALS ALL AMERICAN BOY

AKA the site ass hole below,lol

Posted March 21, 2014 7:30 pm 


Anonymous

You get more laughable every phony name you use, jerk.

Posted March 21, 2014 6:57 pm 


TARK

I don’t think Wilder-Scott was a dirty fight.

But I do think Scott wasn’t in a hurry to get up. He saw the Liakhovich fight I’m pretty sure. He wasn’t ready to be a basket case.

Posted March 21, 2014 5:17 pm 


TARK

Herron…, “If a fighter, judge, promoter, trainer, or referee were found guilty of throwing a prizefight on the biggest stage, the consequences would be disastrous.”

I have to disagree with that.. Nobody really GAS to be truthful.

An NBA basketball referee was found to be dirty and nothing happened… You know what??? Nobody really gave a crap.

You saw what happened in the Lomachenko-Salido fight… Salido was outpunched and almost knocked out… He landed about 25 deliberate low blows … Where’s the outrage???

Fans just suck it up because they already know Boxing is dirty. You’re not going to prove. It’s 10 times easier to corrupt a boxing match than a horse race or a basketball game… You’ve got fewer participants and it’s easier to pull it off.

Posted March 21, 2014 5:09 pm 


Anonymous

fighting words, back in the day they used to have bare knuckle fights and then boxing fights where the combatants fought in the middle of a throng of spectators, which naturally forms a circle. But when rings were introduced, it would’ve been a damn hard job to rope a circular ring and hence they have their square shape, but the phrase goes back to the good old days. Hope this helps?

Posted March 21, 2014 4:31 pm 


Fighting Words

@ Hidalg0. What is square circle ? I hear people who think they know boxing calling a square ring a square circle nothing can be so annoying.

Posted March 21, 2014 4:17 pm 


Joseph Herron

Hidalg0: “Fair reasoning Joseph but that does not mean there isn’t corruption in the sport. In other words, we don’t know for sure if a fighter has taken a dive, or a judge or referee has been bought, or a promoter paid someone off to throw a fight until they get caught and we have concrete proof.”

In staying consistent with your analogy of committing a crime, Boxing is on parole while other sports have been given a mere citation for previous offenses.

The backlash would be that much more devastating to boxing if anything did come out. Promoters, fighters, and trainers realize this…so do the networks.

Posted March 21, 2014 12:46 pm 


Hmmmmmmmmmm

WBC Eliminator? WTF!! How are either of these considered to be in an elimination bout to challenge for the WBC title? Especially Scott….isn’t he coming off a loss to Chisora? …..makes no sense!

Posted March 21, 2014 12:13 pm 


Hidalg0

“If a fighter, judge, promoter, trainer, or referee were found guilty of throwing a prizefight on the biggest stage, the consequences would be disastrous.

So once again, how much would be worth it?”

Fair reasoning Joseph but that does not mean there isn’t corruption in the sport. In other words, we don’t know for sure if a fighter has taken a dive, or a judge or referee has been bought, or a promoter paid someone off to throw a fight until they get caught and we have concrete proof. So most certainly these things can and likely have been going on. I mean we have laws but people still break them. We have rules in sports but the athletes still cheat. Look how many boxers in the past several years have failed their drugs tests. Margarito had loaded gloves. Not only did Panama Lewis take the padding out of Resto’s gloves, he was also suspected of making an illegal concoction for Aaron Pryor to drink between rounds in his first fight with Alexis Arguello. Alex Ariza appeared to be giving something to Maidana during his fight with Broner and shortly after that, Brandon Rios fails a drug test after his fight with Manny Pacquiao. Now Scott gets KOd by a punch that looks like it wasn’t powerful enough to knock a ripe apple off a tree.

I also prefer to view the sport in a positive light, but we all know cheating goes on in it a lot more than we care to see. Reminds me of the old analogy which goes something like “If you see one cockroach on the floor, you can bet there’s a whole bunch more of them somewhere else.”

Now, am I saying Malik took a dive, or Ref Cole intentionally let Salido cheat, or that Alex Ariza definitely gave a banned substance to Marcos Maidana? No. But seeing this stuff happen right before peoples eyes tends to qualify their suspicions, to some extent at least.

Posted March 21, 2014 12:05 pm 


Joseph Herron

Thanks for listening, Erik!!

Interesting video…if Hatman is indeed a fighter, he’s the first one who i’ve heard of that is truly convinced that Malik took a dive. I’ve spoken with several bloggers and fans who weren’t in attendance, and just by watching it on their televisions, they’ve deduced that Wilder’s punch wasn’t hard enough to legitimately hurt him.

i wish I could tell whether or not a punch from a 6’7″ Heavyweight was hard enough to floor a man just by watching it on a TV screen…that requires some talent…LOL

That’s again for posting, Erik!!

Posted March 21, 2014 11:27 am 


ERIK

Hi Joseph
the video from Hatman i mentioned, the guy is a former boxer, with a solid amateur career
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUUK9qPUggE

I have not boxed, i was a judo wrestler, u may get califlower ear but no punch in the tempo.

Enjoying listening your radio comment always anyway

Posted March 21, 2014 11:09 am 


DMX

Watched KO on You Tube
That is a VERY suspect knockout if ever there was one

It would be on a level with Danny Green v Paul Briggs

Posted March 21, 2014 11:03 am 


Joseph Herron

Anonymous: “Joke Herron has agendas. Ass kissing shill. Real KO, my ass. He wouldn’t flush his “body of work” down the drain? For enough money he would.”

How much do you think is enough to put the entire sport at risk? Because at this level, the sport is ultimately at risk if a fighter, trainer, promoter, judge, or referee acts selfishly.

I’ve seen some very stupid things happen at the club level, but those things are kept in check for the most part on the biggest stages of boxing.

Boxing in America is a fringe commodity in the sporting world, and proof of throwing a fight would cripple its status in this country.

Mainstream periodicals and avenues of promotion already keep the sport at arm’s length, even though it’s one of the biggest global money makers in sports.

If a fighter, judge, promoter, trainer, or referee were found guilty of throwing a prizefight on the biggest stage, the consequences would be disastrous.

So once again, how much would be worth it?

Posted March 21, 2014 5:10 am 


Joseph Herron

Anonymous: “Fixed fight plain and simple. Both should be banned for life. Jokey Herron has 0 credibility. Enjoy kissing ass the rest of your life, weenie.”

That’s the biggest problem with sentiments like this…”plain and simple”.

There’s nothing plain an simple about this.

Young reporters and many internet bloggers try to “create” the news on a daily basis. This is the primary reason why I don’t usually make predictions…it influences your assessment and limits your view of the big picture.

Ego and predetermined angles ultimately get in the way, and you end up connecting the dots to formulate the wrong picture.

Guaranteed, most of the fans and more cynical journalists who have been vocal of their conspiracy theories bought into the idea that the two fighters’ friendship would taint the validity of the fight, not realizing that many of these fighters and trainers are very good friends. The boxing community is a small one.

Ignorant bloggers and passionate fans who think they know more than they do will often buy into the idea that being overtly negative ultimately equates to a more intelligent and scrutinizing way of viewing things.

But true critical analysis involves examining both sides without a predetermined viewpoint or bias…something I do very well.

So if examining the facts surrounding this past Saturday night’s fight, which includes speaking with trainers, fighters, and many people involved, while coming to the conclusion that there was nothing immoral going on here makes me a shill…so be it.

It’s your opinion, which isn’t a very insightful one.

Posted March 21, 2014 4:53 am 


Tony TT Galento

Wilder is just David Price, but without the guts to take a risky fight.

Posted March 21, 2014 4:29 am 


TARK

Anonymous.., “Both should be banned for life.” … LMFAO, I’ve seen this movie before.

Sonny Liston was denied a boxing license for several years—all over the United States—all because some thick headed morons thought Liston threw the 2nd Ali fight.

For “proof’ they watched the so-called KO punch. Except Liston GOT UP from the blow WITHOUT getting a count from the referee—who was busy trying to push Ali to a neutral corner. Liston resumed fighting because the referee and both boxers thought the fight was still on.

Now, if Liston wanted to throw the fight he’d stay on the floor long enough to be counted out. But he DIDN’T. He got up and resumed fighting. He pointed this out to the commission.

None of that mattered to the idiot boxing commissioners. They judged the power of Ali’s punch as not hard enough to even put Liston down.

They made sure he could no longer box anywhere in the United States, and they lobbied promoters overseas to observe their license revocation as well. Eventually somebody with common sense allowed Liston to box again… First commissioners overseas, then in the US.

Posted March 21, 2014 1:48 am 


Anonymous

Fixed fight plain and simple. Both should be banned for life. Jokey Herron has 0 credibility. Enjoy kissing ass the rest of your life, weenie.

Posted March 20, 2014 11:45 pm 


Anonymous

Wilder was knocked down by Harold Sconiers.

Posted March 20, 2014 11:43 pm 


Anonymous

Joke Herron has agendas. Ass kissing shill. Real KO, my ass. He wouldn’t flush his “body of work” down the drain? For enough money he would.

Posted March 20, 2014 11:41 pm 


Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. LionKing)

Anonymous: I sincerely believe that Wlad is one the very best HWs of all time. It’s just that he’s so skilled, smart and powerful that he makes the rest of the division look average at best. But he’s now 38, so would be wise to get the winner of Stiverne vs. Arreola and Wilder in the ring as soon as possible.

I somehow missed Wilder in the 08 Olympics. Do you remember who he lost to for the silver and who won gold? DW has HUGE power in that right hand, but I don’t see nearly as much pop in his left hook. And his jab is limited and far from being a dangerous weapon. I think Wlad would probably hurt DW and/or knock him down with his jab. And if Wlad caught him with a power 1-2, he’s likely be done.

Posted March 20, 2014 11:32 pm 


Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. LionKing)

“Well, Squared Circle, watching boxing is an objective activity–even though avid boxing fans like us attempt to make it subjective…” Yes, we can agree to disagree about it and that’s just fine. But Firtha definitely looked like a “competitive eating” champion who’s never worked out in his life. That being said, I was shocked at the way he took it to Wilder in round 1. I believe Firtha actually drew the blueprint for how to beat DW.

Posted March 20, 2014 11:18 pm 


Wolf

Good point the Bronze Bomber is a powerful man.

Posted March 20, 2014 10:51 pm 


Harry

P.S. I guess this means we ought to address you “meine Herren!” (i.e. “my lord!”) from now on, eh? ;-)

Posted March 20, 2014 9:18 pm 


Harry

Correction: I figured it’s futile trying *to* argue with him rationally

Posted March 20, 2014 9:13 pm 


Harry

@Joseph Herron

Yeah, obviously, I was just making fun of our conspiracy-nut friend. I figured it’s futile trying and argue with him rationally, and that a bit of humour might be a more effective tactic. Still, I won’t make the mistake of feeding such a troll in future: my wee quip didn’t half set him off!

Cheers.

Posted March 20, 2014 9:12 pm 


TARK

It took Roberto Duran a while to shake the “NO MAS” fight.. Eventually he did..

After Davey Moore he was on top again … and reporters stopped asking him about NO MAS.

Posted March 20, 2014 9:05 pm 


TARK

Wilder can’t do anything about the way the fight ended… He can only try to punch Scott out… It’s up to Scott to struggle hard to get up and continue fighting if he can.

He didn’t seem in a hurry to rise after sampling Wilder’s power. I am interested in seeing who Scott fights next. He gave Glazkov a Hell of a fight and he’s a damned good boxer.

If I were Malik I would take fights left and right. A dozen fights at least. Fight anyone out there who wants a paycheck. Just fight. Get rid of the memory of this fight.

Posted March 20, 2014 8:59 pm 


Joseph Herron

I like the iluminati rhetoric, Harry…nice touch!!

By the way, my last name is an alternative spelling of German origin.

It means nobleman or gentleman.

Obviously my Catholic mother named me after head of the holy family, so that part is correct.

Funny stuff!!

Posted March 20, 2014 8:52 pm 


Demon

Fixed fight plain and simple. Both should be banned for life

Posted March 20, 2014 8:51 pm 


Harry

I fear our conspiracy whackjob may have taken my suggestions seriously and actually gone and locked himself in a dark little room. Let’s just hope he hasn’t taken his kids in there with him! Poor bugger…

Posted March 20, 2014 8:35 pm 


Hidalg0

“No one enjoyed the fight”

I certainly didn’t. But that’s probably because it wasn’t a fight.

Posted March 20, 2014 8:24 pm 


Hidalg0

Well, Squared Circle, watching boxing is an objective activity–even though avid boxing fans like us attempt to make it subjective–but I didn’t see Firtha do anything to Wilder other than jar him with a jab that Wilder also walked into. In any case, I agree with you completely about Firtha–what a jelly donut.

Posted March 20, 2014 8:20 pm 


Hidalg0

“Hidalgo is ALWAYS dead wrong.”

Thank you, Captain Video.

Posted March 20, 2014 8:18 pm 


Exiled Yank

This guy has had an easy ride to a title shot.

Posted March 20, 2014 8:02 pm 


Ike

Malik Scott took a dive. Plain & simple. Even Bruce Seldon was disgusted.

Posted March 20, 2014 7:57 pm 


D

Swed box fan, Scott beat Glazkov according to 90% of the people who watched the fight. Glazkov dominated Adamek. Adamek easily outboxed Arreola. Scott is worthy of a fight at this level. Chisora and Adamek already had title shots and Scott is clearly better.

Scott is up there in the ranks and has no real losses except Wilder. The English referee gave Scott a bum count because he was boxing rings around Chisora.

Posted March 20, 2014 7:56 pm 


Cod Wars

That fight was fishy.

Posted March 20, 2014 7:38 pm 


Swedish Boxing Fan

I’m sorry but I have to agree with those people who felt that this “fight” was not a sportsman made.

It felt like it was a SET-UP / STAGED fight. I mean the fight and the KO = Nothing looked like a real fight and especially since the fight was an official WBC world heavyweight title eliminator
(yes Malik Scott was NOT top 15# ranked by WBC/WBA/IBF/WBO and still was awarded that fight position, that should not be possible with-out a proper earned rank to be in a Eleminator bout.)

The KO looked so weak and Deontay Wilder turning around and smiling like “Okay its a rap” and Malik Scott looked like he was unsure how to look believable like when knocked down. It was like they where filming a movie scene or something, NOT fighting.

What they have done is something people forever will discuss whatever this was a real fight or a set-up made fight. No one enjoyed the fight and no one talks positive about it either nowhere so non of the fighters achieved nothing.
Scott have never defeated any top heavyweight name in his 12 year long PRO career and he is not getting any top fights due to the lack of rang and credibility of opponents fought all these years. I’m sorry but I feel that Scott needed a good pay and took a dive-fall against Deontay Wilder = And why would a huge puncher like Wilder need to accept a dive-win against such a level of opponent in Malik Scott? Scott lacks serius power and is not a top thret in the heavyweight league at all as there are so many better opponents out there then him.

Deontay Wilder will never become a recognised world heavyweight champion. He will not defeat Stiverne for the WBC world title or defeat Wladimir Klitschko for his undisputed world title crown.

Posted March 20, 2014 7:07 pm 


Myles

The Bronze Bomber?

Miguel Cotto is bronze. Roy Jones is bronze. Even Andre Ward is even more bronze than Deontay. Hmm

OK I get it. He won the bronze medal in the Olympics. Joe Louis didn’t win any Olympic medals. He was brown.

Posted March 20, 2014 6:50 pm 


Anonymous

Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. LionKing)
Sad facts are we are so desperate for a Heavyweight Champion that can be sold as a killer to the gullible masses that Wilder will be forced down our throats until he either gets iced or actually learns on the job. It’s amazing to think he’s actually gotten worse since his Olympic days. I have Him on DVD from Beijing, 2008 and whilst he’s gained power, he’s lost what little skills he possessed then.

Posted March 20, 2014 6:26 pm 


skinnysteve

what did the submarine captain say to his first mate? DIVE!

Posted March 20, 2014 5:04 pm 


Stevie Wonder

“I didn’t see any punch land. Maybe it did, but I didn’t see it.”

Nor me!

Posted March 20, 2014 5:03 pm 


moonshineman

I didn’t see any punch land. Maybe it did, but I didn’t see it.

Posted March 20, 2014 4:53 pm 


deepwater2255252

fix

Posted March 20, 2014 4:33 pm 


Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. LionKing)

Anonymous: Thanks man, it’s good to see you on ESB as well.
I slightly misspoke there, so let me rephrase myself: … “let’s see how he does vs. a top-tier HW with good power, sound defensive skills, and a solid chin.”

IMO… there are a few top-tier HWs who posses those attributes.

Posted March 20, 2014 4:20 pm 


BUSTAJAY

detroitko

Deontay the next champ!!!

Posted March 20, 2014 3:54 pm

We have to see if BOXTRADOMUS predicts this first bro

Posted March 20, 2014 4:16 pm 


Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. LionKing)

“This is BS across the board. Firtha got lucky with one jab which Wilder walked into. Big deal. It didn’t wobble Wilder it knocked him off balance. He wasn’t on queer street either or anywhere near it.” Sorry Hidalg0, but you’re dead wrong about that. DW’s legs buckled and he did the Zab Judah “chicken dance.” He was a little hurt and definitely wobbled from that jab — not just off balance. You could tell because DW went into defensive mode after that and retreated backwards into the ropes while buying time to recover. And that’s when Firtha landed a good right hand that stunned DW again. His chin is a HUGE question mark. Just watch…

Posted March 20, 2014 4:14 pm 


Anonymous

Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. LionKing)
Good to see you back on the threads but, where are we going to find a HW with all the attributes you have said we need to chin check Wilder with?

Before we jump the gun and start crowning DW the next HW Champ, let’s see how he does vs. a top-tier HW with serious power, great defensive skills, and a rock-solid chin.

If there was seriously a HW out there with those three attributes he would be bashing on the door of Wladmir. I don’t think there’s been a HW with those attributes for eons and eons.

Posted March 20, 2014 4:01 pm 


detroitko

Deontay the next champ!!!

Posted March 20, 2014 3:54 pm 


Harry

@Op Amp

P.S. I’ve just had a terrifying thought: “Heron/Herron” is a well-known masonic/illuminati symbol going back to the time of pharaonic Egypt, and we know that the Pharaohs were illuminati who ruled the world for thousands of years with their demonic symbolism (put “The Bloodlines of the Illuminati – From Pharaohs to NWO” into Youtube).

Then consider this: who was “Joseph” in the Bible? He was the Hebrew patriarch who became “the most powerful man in Egypt” as vizier to Pharoah!

There’s no doubt left in my mind: “Joseph Herron” is straight up illuminati, man!

In fact, this is not even debatable now, and if you deny it you either do not have the IQ to grasp it, or you’re too deeply invested in your so-called “thought” processes to admit it.

How am I doing Op Amp. Better? (I’m just aspiring to be an intellectual like you, brother!)

Posted March 20, 2014 3:44 pm 


Harry

@Op Amp

You’re right. You completely destroyed me there and I feel deeply ashamed of my ignorance, not to mention my puerile behaviour. Illuminati paedophiles lacing children’s cartoons with demonic pornographic imagery is no laughing matter, and I should not be so flippant about it. It just demonstrates my woeful ignorance and ingenuous credulity.

In fact, I am now starting to fear that, since the Illuminati control all the world’s media, it’s just not safe to watch television or use the internet any more. How do we know that they’re not constantly splicing every page we see with depraved and demonic pornographic imagery, too fast for the human mind to consciously register but nevertheless designed to subliminally insinuate evil into out fragile little minds? Hell, I suspect Joseph Herron is probably in on it too: “Herron” sounds suspiciously Jewish to me, and everyone knows that those Zion people are really an an evil master race of inbred lizard people, right?

You know what though? I think it’s too late for me. You see, I really enjoy some kinds of pornography already. I also really enjoy watching Disney films, drinking Coke, and have Jewish friends. I’m sure you’re much too intelligent to and pure for all that, but how do you know they won’t get you too, man? If I were you I would disconnect all electricity in my house and lock myself away in a dark little room. You can never be too careful, brother.

Keep speaking The Truth, man. The world needs more terrifyingly brilliant intellectuals like you if it’s not to sink ever further into the morass of demonic depravity we see all around us today.

God’s speed, brother. Never give in to evil!

Peace.

Posted March 20, 2014 3:22 pm 


Hidalg0

“Firtha — who looked like he’d been training for a competitive eating contest, not a boxing match — also rocked and wobbled Wilder with an average jab. He had him on queer street in round 1, backing up into the ropes and looking scared”

This is BS across the board. Firtha got lucky with one jab which Wilder walked into. Big deal. It didn’t wobble Wilder it knocked him off balance. He wasn’t on queer street either or anywhere near it. Wilder gave spare-tire Firtha a bloody nose in the first round and knocked him down two times. Then Wilder took fatty out in the 4th. No contest, Wilder was never hurt or threatened.

Posted March 20, 2014 3:19 pm 


elbilly

it’s a terrible shame as we know the guy has power and would probably have taken scott out at some point in the opening rounds if this had a been a fair contest and we could have got to see donkey respond to some shots at his unknown chin, but sorry joseph this was not a genuine KO. If you loose your EQ your body doesn’t stay as rigid as scott is there lying on the floor, he’s got everything still about him and can easily beat that count. this was a disgrace.

Posted March 20, 2014 2:58 pm 


jay

Malik did take a dive and had a good payday and his best friend Deontay paid him too so he can keep his perfect record. Lets he how he does with real contenders

Posted March 20, 2014 2:49 pm 


Showboat

Squared circle. The chances of seeing him against another hw with all those qualities you mention are exactly zero. Simply because there are no good hws anymore. Once wlad goes it’ll be like a fight outside a chip shop on a Friday night.

Posted March 20, 2014 2:36 pm 


Op Amp

Yes, I know I kicked your a s s harry, and since you can not intellectually refute what I said, your tactic is to post garbage under false names. TRULY pathetic! Chalk another W up for Op Amp. : )

Posted March 20, 2014 2:35 pm 


Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. LionKing)

Keep in mind that Wilder was knocked down by Harold Sconiers. A tin can with an losing record of 18-27 and a feather-fisted 23% KO ratio. Firtha — who looked like he’d been training for a competitive eating contest, not a boxing match — also rocked and wobbled Wilder with an average jab. He had him on queer street in round 1, backing up into the ropes and looking scared. IMO… Wilder’s chin is HIGHLY suspect. Before we jump the gun and start crowning DW the next HW Champ, let’s see how he does vs. a top-tier HW with serious power, great defensive skills, and a rock-solid chin. The guy needs to be chin-checked and stamina-checked by a top 5-10 HW. DW has never even been beyond the 4th round. And that’s another huge question mark on his resume.

Posted March 20, 2014 2:30 pm 


Gullible Tit

yeah, dey be tryin a distroy the liddle kiddies minds and make us all preverts man!

Posted March 20, 2014 2:28 pm 


Random Loon

Yeah, I agree with Op Amp too. Read David Icke man – it’s all in there!

Posted March 20, 2014 2:26 pm 


Op Amp

Lmao!!!!

Posted March 20, 2014 2:22 pm 


Total Whackjob

I agree with Op Amp. The fight was fixed by the Illuminati.

Posted March 20, 2014 2:19 pm 


Fight Aficionado

Author obv believes it wasn’t a dive otherwise he’d not have used the word “regurgitated” regarding those claims. I’m not sure. The left hook didn’t look hard and the right hand tapped Scott’s glove. Whether it was a true KO or not, Scott didn’t give the paying fans an honest effort. He also didn’t provide any new info about Wilder’s development. Hopefully his next opponent will show up to fight.

Posted March 20, 2014 2:13 pm 


Harry Rothschild

@Omp Amp

You have crossed the Illuminati once too often, boy!

Now you must be DESTROYED!

Nothing can save you!

Posted March 20, 2014 2:09 pm 


Op Amp

Yes harry, sorry to break the news to you, but they mapped out your little brain decades ago, and are currently playing you, and apparently your kids like a piano. Lmao. It’s funny and sad at the same time. Lol

Posted March 20, 2014 1:55 pm 


Op Amp

Plus your statement about how you think I said that Disney is TRYING to corrupt our kids, goes to show how incredibly IGNORANT you are on the subject. The reason that they lace sex, death, and images of (what the human mind would equate to), heaven and hell, is because they know that those images produce the greatest reactions in the human mind. There’s nothing that better gets humans attention then sex, death, heaven and hell, whatever your beliefs are.

Posted March 20, 2014 1:51 pm 


Op Amp

Harry – that was THE weakest come-back of all time I think. Lmao! I’m glad you do indeed care about kids harry. lol (wow he must be a good guy). Lol! I need a psychiatrist because I don’t approve of Disney and most other forms of media embedding sick and uncalled for subliminal messages in everything Americans watch? Lol. Your funny. Btw, this is and has been done by coke, pepsi, McDonald’s, ect, ect…. There are HUNDREDS of companies who have been caught doing it for decades, and tens of thousands of examples to go along with it! Again, this is not even debatable, and you either do not have the IQ to grasp it, or your too deeply invested in your “thought” processes to admit it. The latter happens to senior citizens quite often. Who wants to hear when their 70, that most of what they been taught their entire life is BS. Smh

Posted March 20, 2014 1:32 pm 


Harry

“harry you must have seen some really great heavyweights”

Er, yes. Your point being?

Posted March 20, 2014 12:55 pm 


Harry

before *you’d* taken it

Posted March 20, 2014 12:54 pm 


Harry

@badger

“Missed this match”

Don’t tell me: you took Malik Scott’s advice to get your popcorn ready, but the fight had finished before you’s taken it out of the microwave, right?

Posted March 20, 2014 12:54 pm 


Harry

@Op Amp

I do fear for your kids, but certainly not because they watch Disney. I recommend visiting a psychiatrist and telling him/her all this. They will be able to help you.

Anyway, please stop now: this is a site for discussing boxing, not your psychotic delusions about Disney trying to corrupt children by lacing cartoons with pornographic images, okay?

Posted March 20, 2014 12:52 pm 


Op Amp

Yeah harry, as clear as mud to you obviously. Lol to think that a SINGLE documentary could “brainwash” me. My knowledge comes from YEARS of studying history from MANY different sources. I then put what i have learned to the logic test…. eventually, it all begins to fit together like a puzzle. Besides, what I stated is EASILY provable, just go investigate. IF you did BOTHER to ACTUALLY INVESTIGATE yourself, you, (IF your a reasonable person), would be APPALLED at a SINGLE subliminal suggestion scene of X rated images in movies made FOR OUR KIDS, instead of trying to attack me. WTF is wrong with you?? Of course there are those who CHOOSE to live with their heads in the sand. Call me crazy, but I would like kids to watch a regular cartoons WITHOUT sex and demonic images laced into it by embedded artists. “Flying my middle finger at disney”.There also laced in commercials, TV shows, and movies.

Posted March 20, 2014 12:47 pm 


badger

Missed this match, surprised to read that Malik was stooped quick. Not sold on this Wilder yet. Who is next? Shannon Briggs?

Posted March 20, 2014 12:40 pm 


RapidFire

@CHEEZEB Lol you a trip. Scott probably was like f*** that I’m done..

Posted March 20, 2014 12:37 pm 


Informer

I think this hurt Wilder more than anyone. He fought a guy who I don’t think took a dive, but as Teddy Atlas would say, didn’t know how to behave in the ring. This was not like Trevor Berbick against Mike Tyson, or Montell Griffith against Roy Jones. Those guys got hit and tried desperately to get up but could not. The Jones punch looked very hard. The Tyson punch did not look as hard, but it was. Scott got hit on the temple. So maybe he did get his equilibrium rattled. It happens all of the time. But you have to make an effort to get up. Now, Aerola and Stiverne may not be the greatest boxers in the world, but they WILL NOT QUIT and Wilder will have to deal with that. To Wilder’s credit, he truly want’s to fight the best. His handlers should have moved him along better than this baby food diet. He may be in trouble when he has to eat the steak.

Posted March 20, 2014 12:08 pm 


Harry

@OpAmp

The irony is that you’re clearly someone who has been brainwashed by watching Adam Curtis documentaries!

Posted March 20, 2014 12:02 pm 


the dude

wilder and scott are both bums

Posted March 20, 2014 11:47 am 


Op Amp

That is multi-generational mind control of the masses in action. It started shortly after WW2, and has done nothing but grow since. Huh! Little did we all know that when we sat down in front of a Disney movie as a kid, that our subconscious was being programmed with images of sex organs and demonic images. In many ways, Edwin Bernays, nephew of sigmond Froid, was the architect of much of this hell. For anyone who doubts, there are many many great historical documentaries online. You tube has a great documentary concerning subliminals in advertising, and those key words will find it. The one that’s almost 2 hours long actually goes over a leaked training manual from an advertising agency. The masses get mind f u ck ed from cradle to grave. Sorry for the language, but there is not a more appropriate term.

Posted March 20, 2014 11:35 am 


PEEJ

I am looking forward to him actually stepping in the ring with Arreola or Stivern. Though I must say the heavy that has me really interested is that cat from london named Joshua. Liked the way he looks in the ring.

Posted March 20, 2014 11:31 am 


Harry

As for Wilder’s future in the HW division, the only rational position to take is an agnostic one. We simply have not yet seen enough of Wilder against quality opposition to make a reliable judgement. Arguably, he has yet to face anyone in the top fifty of the division, never mind the top ten. Only once we have seen him up against the likes of Stiverne, Pulev, Arreola or Povetkin will we be in a position to assess how good he really is. Crucially, we need to find out if he can take punches, and whether he has a good engine. We know neither of things yet, so it’s simply too soon to tell.

Posted March 20, 2014 11:23 am 


Di Stefano

It always makes me laugh how people think Wilder is an all time great while he still hasn’t proven anything other than being a heavy hitter. Personally I think stamina, skills, chin, mental thoughness are more important than power.

Posted March 20, 2014 11:19 am 


Delayed Reaction

Perhaps a delayed reaction by Scott.

A hard blow just under the rib cage will also produce

a delayed reaction. You want too; but you can’t

Posted March 20, 2014 11:18 am 


Op Amp

ANYONE who PARROTS the DECADES long mantra of the main stream media to AUTOMATICALLY dismiss “conspiracy theories” has NO idea what’s going on in the REAL world! What is a conspiracy but two or more people acting together to achieve a common goal. WHY on earth would that be hard to believe???? It happens EVERYDAY in life to all of us and by all of us. The fact of the matter though, is the brain-dead public knowing that two or more people acting together to achieve a common goal IS THE RULE and the LONE actor is the EXCEPTION is POISON to big money and the power elite. In light of this the sheeple have been TAUGHT like the cattle that they are, to AUTOMATICALLY dismiss the dreaded “conspiracy theory” lol

Posted March 20, 2014 11:09 am 


DeontaySlapsLikeAGirl

Joseph – are disappointed that most people think Malik Scott took a dive,or disappointed that he took a dive? I’m not being facetious,as I always look forward your posting on here,but if that wasn’t a dive it was a weak folding.Scott certainly didn’t look hurt,quite the opposite.It definitely looked suspicious,I hope it wasn’t,but the consensus here seems to agree.

Posted March 20, 2014 11:05 am 


Bob BallJar

When it says that, then right click and click reload or resend and sometimes do this twice and it will go through. Some kind of firewall they have.

Posted March 20, 2014 11:03 am 


GaryintheBronx

What’s up with this site? I type in a 15 line opinion and when I click on the “say it” tab it tells me I’m posting too fast and then erases my thoughts…….. What can be more frustrating? FIX THIS!!!

Posted March 20, 2014 10:58 am 


Op Amp

Fix or not, I still say that DW is THE future of the HW division. DW will steam-roll most anyone in the division with a few exceptions. The super slow/careful match making for DW has only been done so WK grows old in the mean time. They’re almost there. Not sure a 40 year old WK will have the speed to avoid the TNT in DWs fists.

Posted March 20, 2014 10:54 am 


Harry

The fight reminded me of Etienne versus Tyson, though at least Etienne attempted to fight a bit before going down (I think Scott’s total output was a single jab that fell well short). When Eteinne did go down, his faculties were about him enough to immediately take his mouthguard out, but he made no attempt to beat the count.

Similarly, Scott’s eyes were completely clear, and it definitely looked to me like he had no intention of genuinely trying to beat the count. People who doubt that should watch it back again: there was just no attempt on Scott’s part to move his legs and get his feet under him, and I just don’t buy the suggestion that “his body wouldn’t cooperate”. Being knocked on the side of the head just doesn’t lead one’s legs to lock like that.

I also don’t believe that he wanted to continue against Chisora. He certainly didn’t kick up any kind of fuss when the referee waved it off: odd behaviour, you might think, for someone who had been previously undefeated in so many fights.

If we discount what Joseph derides as “conspiracy theories”, then, I can only conclude that Scott has neither the chin nor the heart to compete at heavyweight boxing — certainly not at world-class level, at any rate.

Posted March 20, 2014 10:54 am 


Phil Ferry

Joe, you sure like to cut and paste!!

Posted March 20, 2014 10:53 am 


BUSTAJAY

Great write up
Wilder still has a question mark, much smaller then be for this fight, next to his name IMO.
I am ready to see him go at least 7 to 9 rds.

That was no dive people as that was some old a…SS southern power behind that punch

Posted March 20, 2014 10:52 am 


Crimson Bolt

@Mike “We are looking at a possible all time great.”

In your wet dreams certainly.

Wilder is a funny and likeable guy. But he will go in his first major fight (against Arreola or Stiverne) completely unproved and untested.
My guess is, after that fight the boxing community will have as much fun as we had after Broner vs. Maidana.

Posted March 20, 2014 10:42 am 


Op Amp

Let’s see what the coming 36 months has in store for Scott. If we see him unduly pushed up in ratings and given shots he didn’t earn, then that will be a further indication that the fix was in!

Posted March 20, 2014 10:40 am 


Op Amp

Really though, we’re talking golden boy and showtime. BIG MONEY!! And DW is THE THE THE UP AND COMING CASH COW! Potential 100s of millions to be made off of him. Is it REALLY a far fetched thought, that they would put a fix in???? An assurance from ANYONE with real power at golden boy to Scott, that he will be nicely taken care of in the coming years would make most think about taking a dive. Not to mention, all Scott has to do is win against a “name” or 2, and he is back in the mix. So IT’S NOT like he trashed a 13 year career by taking a dive. At most, he just stalled his career, made great money and “BUDDYS” ; ) BEHIND the scenes!

Posted March 20, 2014 10:36 am 


Harry

@Joseph

Not hate, Joseph, just mirth.

@Gus

I agree completely. I would say his acting wasn’t very good either, but it seems to have fooled plenty of people.

Posted March 20, 2014 10:36 am 


Mike

FYI Deontay Wilder is the hardest puncher since young George Foreman. He will breeze to havyweight crown and KO Stiverne, Arreola, Klitschko, or whoever has the cajones to box him. We are looking at a possible all time great.

Posted March 20, 2014 10:22 am 


Gus

In EVERY,EVERY fight during the course of the fight, fighters take MANY,MANY shots around the side of the head and do NOT go down as easily as did Scott. Scott might have been stunned by the temple shot but the attempt to rise was worthy of an academy award performance, HE TOOK THE EASY WAY OUT AND MADE NO SERIOUS ATTEMPT TO RISE BEFORE THE 10 COUNT.

Posted March 20, 2014 10:16 am 


Neil (pomy)

Wilder is obviously a very good prospect … I just need to see his metal tested. Not seen him take a good shot yet or seen in him under any pressure. The jury is still out on him.

Posted March 20, 2014 10:01 am 


Op Amp

I shouldn’t say that NOTHING looked legit about either punch. With the “left hook” Scott’s head did show some decent acceleration when reacting to the “strike”, and as another poster stated, in some cases, it doesn’t take much to scramble the brain. Really not sure about this one, because DW DOES have crazy power, and maybe Scott’s chin is not that good. Another possibility, is that Chisora cracked his egg, as in took out his Punch resistance.

Posted March 20, 2014 9:48 am 


Op Amp

I know it doesn’t stand to reason, BASED ON THE KNOWLEDGE WE HAVE, that Scott would take a dive, but there was NOTHING that looked legitimate about either punch! The left was NOT a good left hook, where the arm is bent perfectly, and the body/torso is torquing it’s power I to it. You can even see DWs elbow give when it hits. ELBOWS DONT BEND and give when a legit KO left hook is thrown. And the right?? It didn’t really even connect. One of THREE things occurred here. 1. DW REALLY DOES have that much power. 2. Scott’s chin is REALLY that bad. 3. Fix fix fix.

Posted March 20, 2014 9:42 am 


Joseph Herron

Good morning to you, Erik!!

Every fighter or trainer that I have spoken to doesn’t have a problem with the knock-out and sees this as a plausible shot.

The only people who seem to have an issue with the KO are those who have never stepped foot in the ring.

I have yet to hear from a former or active fighter or trainer who has called this KO a dive.

That should speak volumes to every fight fan.

Posted March 20, 2014 9:36 am 


junior

Not only did Scott dive last weekend, he sold out against Chisora too!

Posted March 20, 2014 9:34 am 


Joseph Herron

Harry: “@Joseph and Luke…Get a room?”

Don’t hate, brother…life is too short…LOL

Posted March 20, 2014 9:32 am 


Albert Tatlock

Malik Scott should sign for WWE.

Posted March 20, 2014 9:28 am 


Harry

@Joseph and Luke

Get a room?

Posted March 20, 2014 9:27 am 


ERIK

Hi joseph & boxing fans
I am not sold on Wilder at all:
He has already showed signs of a weakness chin in the past.
he is not ready for a championship fight as he never been beyond 6 rounds, we dont know his stamina, heart, surviving skills and so on.
On a motor skills point of you, he does not show good balance, coordination or footwork.
Most of all, he doesn’t show humility, lack of humility is probably ur best ennemy
Regarding the KO, there is a very interesting youtube videao by Hatman; All he was saying is: I dont know about dive or corruption, all i know is that Scott was not hurt! He did not have the usual signs of a guy hurt to the tempo.

Boxers get hit many times in this area, how many times Vlad did hit Wach in the tempo?
How many times did Wilder get a KO with his letf?

thx for reading,

Posted March 20, 2014 9:19 am 


talbodin

malik wasn’t fighting at all. didn’t throw one single punch. flopped down from the first punch to make contact. pure bs.

Posted March 20, 2014 9:14 am 


Joseph Herron

I’m actually shocked as to how many people are truly convinced that Malik took a dive.

Very disappointed.

Posted March 20, 2014 9:11 am 


Joseph Herron

Thank you, my friend…but I actually enjoy conversing with everyone here on “The” Eastsideboxing.

Anyone who has enough passion for the sport to scribble on these comment boards is alright in my book!

Even if they make fun of my hair on the “Boxing 411″!!

Thanks for everything, Luke!!

Posted March 20, 2014 9:08 am 


Luke

Thanks Joseph! You too! Ignore the haters, brother.

I love you Joe.

Posted March 20, 2014 9:02 am 


Joseph Herron

Luke: “Boooooooommmmmmmmmmb Squuuuuuuaaaaaaddddd!!!!” If you didn’t hear Wilder shout that out on Joseph’s radio show, then you just haven’t ever been exposed to good radio!!”

You’re the man, Luke!!

Posted March 20, 2014 8:54 am 


canuck

I have been watching boxing for over 50 years and it looked like a real KO to me.Wilder hits very hard and a temple shot will often have a slightly delayed reaction so it looks legit.That said I still wonder what will happen the first time Wilder is unable to land one of his big shots.Chin and stamina are still a question mark.

Posted March 20, 2014 8:36 am 


Harry

“You get hit square on the temple by a guy that strong and powerful, its going to put you on queer street.”

Yes, Tomato Can Stan is right. it might have looked like the shot hardly even moved Scott’s head — the sort of punch heavyweights throw and land all the time. But make no mistake, that was one of the hardest shots any man has ever taken. *No one* could withstand that kind of power. It would have taken out a prime Marciano, Ali, Foreman, Holmes, Tyson, Holyfield, Bowe, Lewis …. anyone!

How do I know this? Well, didn’t you see Scott fall to the canvas, and how he didn’t get up again?

Well, there you go! It MUST have been a devastating punch, and it tells us nothing at all about Scott’s chin or heart.

Hell, that shot probably would have brought down the building if he’d accidentally clipped the wall!

Massive credit to Malik Scott for surviving such an absolutely devastating left hand!

Posted March 20, 2014 8:27 am 


Harry

Luke said: ‘“Boooooooommmmmmmmmmb Squuuuuuuaaaaaaddddd!!!!” If you didn’t hear Wilder shout that out on Joseph’s radio show, then you just haven’t ever been exposed to good radio!!’

Err, yes…. Good point Luke.

You must be what? Almost seven years old?

Posted March 20, 2014 8:12 am 


Swedish Boxing Fan

I’m sorry but I have to agree with those people who felt that this “fight” was not a sportsman made.

It felt like it was a SET-UP / STAGED fight. I mean the fight and the KO = Nothing looked like a real fight and especially since the fight was an official WBC world heavyweight title eliminator (yes Malik Scott was NOT top 15# ranked by WBC/WBA/IBF/WBO and still was awarded that fight position)

The KO looked so weak and Deontay Wilder turning around and smiling like “Okay its a rap” and Malik Scott looked like he was unsure how to look believable like when knocked down. It was like they where filming a movie scene or something, NOT fighting.

What they have done is something people forever will discuss whatever this was a real fight or a set-up made fight. No one enjoyed the fight and no one talks positive about it either nowhere so non of the fighters achieved nothing.

Deontay Wilder will never become a recognised world heavyweight champion. He will not defeat Stiverne for the WBC world title or defeat Wladimir Klitschko for his undisputed world title crown.

Posted March 20, 2014 8:11 am 


Tomato Can Stan

You get hit square on the temple by a guy that strong and powerful, its going to put you on queer street. It was the left hand, not the right that did it. Scott thought another jab was coming but Wilder snaked it into a left cross.

Posted March 20, 2014 8:00 am 


mack

I’m sorry, but that right hand missed. The left landed, but Scott did not head to the floor until the right passed by. I don’t know why Scott bailed, but I don’t think he was knocked out. Wilder has shown he is a good puncher and he may be the real thing, but fights like this and thirty like it tell us nothing. Wilder doesn’t need this kind of help.

Posted March 20, 2014 7:53 am 


Jonn E. JaGozza

Let Wilder fight someone who can fight, a future champ he isn’t and as I stated earlier, in many ways he’s another Shannon Briggs, carefully select an opponent then when you’re in there with a true fighter you’ll look stupid… Oh yea, it was fixed, Scott should get an Emmy nomination for his performance, This farce of a win will sadly help Wilder’s career but what wil lt do for Scott’s
career, who in their right mind will fight him now. … PEACE … Theboxingdictionary.com… The Language of the Rring “

Posted March 20, 2014 7:38 am 


Livershot

No doubt Wilder has power, but to push that fight as legit is a joke. Sorry, “that dog won’t hunt”. I believe he would have KOed that bum anyway but the way it played out was a joke.

Posted March 20, 2014 7:29 am 


skinnysteve

make no mistake scott took a dive

Posted March 20, 2014 7:07 am 


Luke

“Boooooooommmmmmmmmmb Squuuuuuuaaaaaaddddd!!!!” If you didn’t hear Wilder shout that out on Joseph’s radio show, then you just haven’t ever been exposed to good radio!!

Posted March 20, 2014 7:06 am 


knowall

Come on guys, no way did scott dive Wilder is legit and very good. I hear changev and moli are being lined up before the winner of arreola and stivrne for the WBC title

Posted March 20, 2014 6:30 am 


Harry

Okay, so Scott didn’t take a dive, let’s go with that. In which case, he needs to start looking for another job.

Posted March 20, 2014 6:05 am 


Hosteen

O Please – Over protected 2 da CORE

Posted March 20, 2014 5:59 am 


Assyrian God

Scott was coming off a loss and a draw, and was not a major contender, a fringe fighter at best, on the level of a Sam Sexton, Travis Walker or Maurice Harris. This was at best a ”set up” for Wilder. He knew he had nothing to fear from Scott, who is a very light puncher, and who folded as soon as he was pressured by Chisora. Those facts equal Wilder and his people pretty much knowing that Scott would fall easily, thus setting Wilder up for an utterly undeserved title tilt.

Posted March 20, 2014 5:41 am 


DeontaySlapsLikeAGirl

What Malik meant to say was his BODY was telling him to get up and fight, but his mind just wasn’t responding,as it was entirely focused on that paper bag being full of cash.”
Anyone who thinks this was a legit knockout should go see their optician.I doubt Deontay was even aware of what was happening,but that’s why he’s perfect for GBP/Haymon.
COULD Wilder beat a top 10 heavyweight? Of course,it’s a weak division,but until he does,i’m not buying it.I have nothing against Wilder,but I hate fans being stiffed by the crap we saw in that fight.Even Paulie said it looked like a powerless slap,and he’s an authority on that.

Posted March 20, 2014 5:08 am 


Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. LionKing)

To my knowledge, Scott was not even ranked in the top 20 by any of the reputable boxing organizations. So am not sure why so many were calling this a big step-up in competition for Wilder. Wilder has NEVER yet beat anyone ranked in the top 20 and the WBC already has him ranked 3rd. I just don’t get it.

Posted March 20, 2014 4:43 am 


GUMBOOT

What a tosser! Ego stronger than his jaw!

Posted March 20, 2014 4:35 am 


Jef

Can anyone take his fights serious anymore? Americans don’t need drugs to cheat anymore, they use blatant corruption and ‘hormone therapy.’ The USADA and the WBC are some of the worse creations of modern times.

Posted March 20, 2014 4:23 am 


Boxtradamus

Malik took a DIVE for his friend is more accurate. Regardless I STILL predicted the match correctly and I REMAIN the GREATESt fight prophet ever born!!!

Posted March 20, 2014 4:20 am 


knowall

Wilder has real power and will be a future world champion

Posted March 20, 2014 4:06 am 


Joseph Herron

Oh, btw…the winner of the eventual Wilder v. Arreola/Stiverne triangle has to now face the winner of Perez vs. Jennings.

Love what the WBC is doing while the title is vacant…LOL

Making up for that lost 3% while Vitali was holding the belt captive…LOL

Posted March 20, 2014 3:50 am 


Joseph Herron

I’ll tell you what though, i wouldn’t mind seeing him face the winner of Thompson/Solis later this year, eh?

Posted March 20, 2014 3:48 am 


Joseph Herron

Look at it this way, the truth will eventually be realized…it did with Seth Mitchell, right?

Posted March 20, 2014 3:48 am 


Joseph Herron

Honeybadger, any of the mentioned fighters on your very long but well stated post would have been criticized had Deontay starched them as he did Liakhovich and Scott.

This is a man who will receive a boat load of criticism and scrutiny until real fight fans finally see him struggle or go rounds. They won’t be happy until then.

So expect more of the same if he destroys either Arreola or Stiverne in the same manner.

Posted March 20, 2014 3:46 am 


Honeybadger Appreciation Society

@Herron…I appreciate what you are trying to say re Liakhovich and Scott, but even here they have been opportunistic.

Liakhovich, bless the white wolf, is a champion in name only because of the eye injury Brewster got, and Brewster himself was suprised as all hell to be holding a title. Then Liakhovich couldn`t in his prime even hold it for one fight – he got KO’ed in the 12 round by the king of the gassout asthma excuse Shannon Briggs. He then went on a defeat spree and got knocked out by Helenius and latterly ryant before facing WIlder. He was actually 7 years removed from a victory over anyone at all with a name you`d recognise.

Malik Scott is crafty, but his main crafty trick is getting to the age of 30+ without facing a live body and noone saying anything about it – and the reason is because noone really gave a fcuk about him.

I quite simply do not believe it is credible that THE most powerful promoter in the world, has a US prospect they think might be the new Tyson, and for 6 years they can`t pay out the $100,000 or whatever it would have taken to move from the likes of Greer/McCReary/Nicholls onto at least the respectable domestic level of very beatable guys like Travis Walker, Fres Oquendo, Chazz Witherspoon, Jameel McCLine, Brian Minto, Jonathan Banks. Maybe even latterly Chambers before he scooted to CW.

None of those guys make big money anywhere else, none are lined up for title shots, they could have been persuaded.

Then there are a litany of not overly talented but durable European fighters who have been in with someone valid and proved their durability in a away an old Liakhovich hasn`t – guys like Wach, Dimitrenko, Chisora.

This isn`t a criticism of Wilder – I think he believes his hype (unfortunately), I think he wants it, but Goldenboy have had a cornucopia of opportunities they could have pursued and have taken the trash route until Vitali retired, and then they have paid the WBC to have the softest possible route to a title.

I would wish WIlder well as a person and hope he gets the title, if it were not for the cynicism, and the waiting for Vitali to go. Now I hope the soft matchmaking comes back to bite them, that he gets laid out when he can`t hand someone fighting back, and that he goes straight into the “who needs em club” so that he has to work twice as hard to get the title shot he has only worked half as hard to get this time.

Posted March 20, 2014 3:40 am 


Anonymous

yeah yeah yeah … what ever you say Wilder, just know this, when you finally meet Wlad or later Joshua you’re gonna get flattened. All the BS in the world won’t change that.

Posted March 20, 2014 2:35 am 


Joseph Herron

Crimson Bolt: “Whatever happened behind the scenes.
This “fight” was a joke.”

Very expensive joke that seems only to be on Malik

Posted March 20, 2014 2:14 am 


Crimson Bolt

Whatever happened behind the scenes.
This “fight” was a joke.

Posted March 20, 2014 2:08 am 


Joseph Herron

Honeybadger Appreciation Society: “They`ve not been trying THAT hard to get him someone who can take him rounds, not for 6 fcuking years. Oooho oohohooho until Vitali retires and suddenly he can step up to a title shot in one fight.”

Sergei Liakhovich was supposed to be a former champion who was physically and mentally durable.

Malik Scott was supposed to be a crafty boxer who could stretch the ring and make him work for every round.

Now he has to face an effective aggressor who can take a good shot with the ability to work on the inside.

Obviously GBP wanted him to put more rounds in the bank before stepping in with either Arreola or Stiverne.

It didn’t work out that way, so now it will pretty much be a “sink or swim” affair when he fights for the world title. No promoter wants that for their fighter.

But that’s what Golden Boy is going to get later this year.

Posted March 20, 2014 2:06 am 


Crimson Bolt

Wilder has great potential.

Potential to be the next Seth Mitchell.

Posted March 20, 2014 2:06 am 


Joseph Herron

soda popinski: “if i said it once i said it many times, i dont belive in hype and this man has beatin no one no less been tested, like ggg he to will be exposed, remember rocky 5, fighters are babptized under fire and he has not been….YET.”

Oh no…not the Triple G theorist!! LOL

If you’re waiting for Gennady to be exposed by better opposition, you will find yourself waiting for a very long time, my friend!! LOL

This guy doesn’t seem to have a weakness…none that I can see anyway. He is a very intelligent boxer/puncher who can fight proficiently on the inside as well as box from a distance. Couple that with his world class power and you have an elite level wrecking machine who will be avoided by every fighter at 160 pounds.

Posted March 20, 2014 2:01 am 


Mac

The position when he was down,..one arm and one leg dangling on the ropes,..As he tries to get up, the legs won’t hold and has to grab the referee.
That’s what i thought looked real.

Posted March 20, 2014 1:55 am 


soda popinski

if i said it once i said it many times, i dont belive in hype and this man has beatin no one no less been tested, like ggg he to will be exposed, remember rocky 5, fighters are babptized under fire and he has not been….YET.

Posted March 20, 2014 1:51 am 


Joseph Herron

Pratt: “Anon has the beat. Dive. And Jury is still out on Wilder. Even Paulie M. said the punch was a slap with nothing on it. AAAAh, the Wilder promotion is a Hollywood setup as usual. He will be starched someday soon by a real fighter. These early round KO’s are doing him no justice for when he meets a real top 10 guy who can carry him into the late rounds. His birdlegs will not carry him in the home stretch.. zzzzzzzzzzzzzz”

Something to think about: Who benefited from this if it were staged?

Did Malik? Hell no!!

Did Deontay? Seeing that his next opponent is going to be a pressure fighter with a solid chin who can crack, absolutely not!!

Golden Boy? Nope…they’ve been trying to stick Wilder in the ring with someone who can get him the rounds he needs before facing the top guys in the division…no one has been able to give him the kind of experience and seasoning he will need to tangle with the best Heavyweights in the world.

So who benefits from this scenario?

Posted March 20, 2014 1:49 am 


Joseph Herron

RapidFire: “Idk I thought the KO was genuine also..only takes a small amount of pressure to knock your brain to the side of your skull and that’s a punch from an average man.”

Especially if you don’t see the punch coming from a guy who can punch like Wilder.

Scott was looking for the left down the middle…in the replay, watch where he was holding his guard…he never saw the punch coming.

Posted March 20, 2014 1:39 am 


Pratt

Anon has the beat. Dive. And Jury is still out on Wilder. Even Paulie M. said the punch was a slap with nothing on it. AAAAh, the Wilder promotion is a Hollywood setup as usual. He will be starched someday soon by a real fighter. These early round KO’s are doing him no justice for when he meets a real top 10 guy who can carry him into the late rounds. His birdlegs will not carry him in the home stretch.. zzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Posted March 20, 2014 1:33 am 


Hidalg0

Notice that Scott’s head is neither snapped back by the right , or turned by it.

Posted March 20, 2014 1:32 am 


Hidalg0

Here’s several slo-mo replays of the KO:

youtube.com/watch?v=jws9K_RTCy4

Posted March 20, 2014 1:30 am 


Hidalg0

“After his performance on Saturday, network TV isn’t going to call poor Malik anytime soon.”

It all had to be from the left hook because Wilder’s right hand made it through Scott’s gloves but didn’t connect with much after it did. The slo-mo replay from the left side clearly shows that. At least that’s what I saw.

In any case, if that’s all it takes to take Scott out, he needs to consider another profession. I know that sounds terrible, but I don’t think he even hit Wilder once before he was KOd. That’s pretty sad.

Posted March 20, 2014 1:28 am 


RapidFire

Idk I thought the KO was genuine also..only takes a small amount of pressure to knock your brain to the side of your skull and that’s a punch from an average man. Imagine a heavyweight hitting your small little. You can teach skill but chin is something you’re born. That ending statement from Wilder was so true. He went from 46 comments on his post to hundreds lol love him or hate him he isn’t going anywhere.

Posted March 20, 2014 1:27 am 


Ghetto Thug

He took a dive, Malik will be in Rio 2016 in the dive team, he will get a medal for sure

Posted March 20, 2014 12:50 am 


Anonymous

The ringside fans booed like hell because they saw a left hook that was an arm punch, it was a slap. Scott then blocked the right hand which did not land, but everyone could see that those were not hard punches at all. Wilder could not fool the fans at ringside who could hear a hard punch. I have seen hard punches and they have an impact, those two punches had not impact……………very poor acting by Scott…………..

Posted March 20, 2014 12:38 am 


Joseph Herron

I do to, Mac…anyone who thinks Malik would flush his entire 13 year body of work down the toilet for one minor payday, needs to have their heads examined.

After his performance on Saturday, network TV isn’t going to call poor Malik anytime soon.

Posted March 20, 2014 12:27 am 


Mac

I think the KO was genuine!

Posted March 20, 2014 12:19 am 



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