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moonshineman

Chicago guy

In my opinion after Pac/Bradley 2 there will be a last fight Pac/Bradley 3 because i’m pretty sure Pacquiao will win this second fight.
Posted March 30, 2014 4:43 pm

Agreed…..

Posted March 31, 2014 4:18 pm 


moonshineman

Rich

Floyd v Pac will not happen….Whatever Floyd says can’t be considered a fact, he will change his mind so he can’t be relied on…Every time he asks for something it is different….If you were doing a business deal with him you would have walked away long ago purely on his inconsistency……..
Posted March 31, 2014 4:59 am

Very true. I face this all the time in the business word. When it happens you have no choice but to walk away from the deal.

Posted March 31, 2014 4:17 pm 


Rich

Floyd v Pac will not happen….Whatever Floyd says can’t be considered a fact, he will change his mind so he can’t be relied on…Every time he asks for something it is different….If you were doing a business deal with him you would have walked away long ago purely on his inconsistency……..

Posted March 31, 2014 4:59 am 


Chris

I was for the additional testing and didn’t understand why Pac didn’t want to do it. Sure, I understood that Pac didn’t want to be dictated to because he considered it a dog fetching a stick or being led psychologically but he could have also upped the stakes by demanding Year Round, Random drug testing which Floyd doesn’t do. And, after the fight, and will just say he wins, he could take his victory inside the ring and outside (which is the test) and shove them in Floyds face as a double KO.

That said, I was on Floyd’s side more than Pac’s because to me, Pac broke the deal more than Floyd. However, Floyd was reluctant in many ways so he too is to blame.

Floyd’s not all that great. I am a firm believe that if Tommy Hearns was in his prime in today’s era, Floyd would either not be a WW or find a way out of that fight.

Floyd’s resume lacks. But he is a Great fighter.

Posted March 30, 2014 8:58 pm 


Chicago guy

In my opinion after Pac/Bradley 2 there will be a last fight Pac/Bradley 3 because i’m pretty sure Pacquiao will win this second fight.

Posted March 30, 2014 4:43 pm 


Chris

Perdun

PAC vs Floyd is what everyone wants to see, but that fight won’t happen and that’s why, at least in the U.S., boxing is moribund.
Posted March 30, 2014 1:43 pm

Its a damn shame too.

I do think Pac wants it more but he never puts himself into position to make it happen. From the drug testing to the money and sticking with Arum, he keeps holding himself back and letting Floyd get away. As long as Floyd has an out he’ll take it.

Posted March 30, 2014 1:53 pm 


Perdun

PAC vs Floyd is what everyone wants to see, but that fight won’t happen and that’s why, at least in the U.S., boxing is moribund.

Posted March 30, 2014 1:43 pm 


horst fraze

arum is full of s##t

Posted March 30, 2014 11:09 am 


Chris

If there are fighters out there that would have been more dangerous and should be regarded as bigger wins that are around FLoyd’s division, it would have been a healthy Martinez…and now GGG who are one division up from jrMW. If Floyd would have beaten them I would rate that much higher than a Pac victory and it would be jaw-dropping. But that’s a bit to much to ask even for Floyd.

Posted March 30, 2014 8:41 am 


Chris

Auzbox

That’s one of the things that I am not thrilled about with Floyd: He says he is the best but he doesn’t go out there and prove it on all levels. Does he have to? NO. But I would love to see it. Overcoming when you are at certain disadvantages are more thrilling and more brilliant. That’s why Ali and Robinson became more popular when they were past their peak than while at their peak. Yes, he fights bigger guys and some have been good and dangerous like Canelo, but I don’t think Canelo even with his size and power advantage was more dangerous than Pac at his peak because Pac brought speed, agility, punch-out-put/stamina, power, the belief of victory, unorthodox style, and fire.

It is certainly the smarter choice and Pac has done the same with his career in some aspects but I would have liked to have seen more chances against the odds.

Posted March 30, 2014 8:39 am 


Chris

gray

anyone else noticed how MMA fans have stopped coming on boxing websites telling us how MMA will destroy boxing – LOL!!!!!
Posted March 30, 2014 6:02 am

Who cares. It was a stupid battle anyway. The one thing they have right though is that learning MMA (which includes boxing in the martial art world) is better overall for being a better fighter. MMA guy has a better chance to win in a fight than just the boxer if you put the two in a room, closed the doors and see who walks out.

That’s why Pankration took over boxing way back when. It’s all about winning the real fight.

Posted March 30, 2014 8:30 am 


Chris

Auzbox

Yes I’m not sure the fight can ever come off anymore and maybe that’s a good thing. PAC I believe wins in 09. But now unless he caught him in the first 8 mayweather prob wins a decision
Posted March 30, 2014 4:08 am

Peak vs. Peak, Floyd beats Pac. And Yes, I will use JMM as an example. Below 147, Floyd was overall even better athletically. His peak, to me, as far as putting it all together, speed, agility, power and Strength, was at 140.

The interesting thing about that fight between Pac/Floyd to me was that at that time when they were first going to meet, Pac was at his Peak while Floyd was not longer at his. Like Roach said, all that brilliance he had from 130-140 didn’t seem to make its way to WW division over the years (especially as he got older). Sure, people will say he outclassed this guy, outboxed that guy, doesn’t get hit etc. but I’m in the same boat as Roach as far as that athletic ability, punch-out-put, even overall speed from head to toe, slowed down as he matured in the WW division. He did continue to slowly become stronger but so what, he was always strong…and speed and agility are more important.
So what’s the point I’m trying to make? Floyd, who would now be past his peak (but still prime which I define as two different things), would be put in a position like other past ATG who have been put into similar situations and had to overcome their small decline while their elite opponent is at his peak. Or sometimes even when more faded like Ali was against Foreman. Robinson vs. Gene Fullmer (KO win).

Floyd wants to compare himself to them, good, then fight someone at their peak that is of elite/HOF talent while you are on your slow decline. Overcome when you are at a disadvantage.

Posted March 30, 2014 8:25 am 


gray

anyone else noticed how MMA fans have stopped coming on boxing websites telling us how MMA will destroy boxing – LOL!!!!!

Posted March 30, 2014 6:02 am 


Auzbox

Yes I’m not sure the fight can ever come off anymore and maybe that’s a good thing. PAC I believe wins in 09. But now unless he caught him in the first 8 mayweather prob wins a decision

Posted March 30, 2014 4:08 am 


Chris

If Pac dominates Bradley (which I hope he does), the fight is back in discussion amongst causal fans

Posted March 30, 2014 3:28 am 


Chris

Auzbox

No he should not have ran the show re-arum. But floyd can make 100 mill I just think its odd that he won’t try make the fight. The world wants to see it and if PAC beats Bradley as he should of the first time then the world will once again cry for it. Floyd has to pay a fee to golden boy does he not
Posted March 30, 2014 3:14 am

YES, Floyd pays a fee to Golden Boy but Golden Boy doesn’t own full promotional rights like Arum does his fighters. Golden Boy supplies the under-cards so of course they are getting their cut.

There is a lot to it. I’m not an expert on it. Someone mentioned it before that you can find it on Forbes website.

Let’s say your number is right that he can make 100 million…how much more would he make if Arum is not in the picture?

Again, let’s get back to Arum’s position in all of this including his percentage of the cut. What would it be?

Posted March 30, 2014 3:24 am 


Chris

Auzbox

And yeh arum would be cut in but floyd would take 100 mill home all for himself. There is no other fighter that is going to make him that sort of $
Posted March 30, 2014 3:01 am

Floyd doesn’t need Arum. You would give Arum millions? For what? That’s a waste. Pac should have left Arum and taken a share of the promotional money which I think would be fair given Pac is the fighter and his name is the other half of the promotion. The fight sells on name value.

Now, if Arum wants to be bought out like Richard suggested, yeah, there could be an agreement reached but Arum wasn’t having that.

Floyd would make 100 million? There is no guarantee first off. Floyd’s big money comes from getting a take on promotional rights, gate, and so on. That’s why he is getting those huge numbers put into his bank accournt.
Things Arum would be getting a piece of.

You would have to see what Arum’s cut would be or see if he is willing to downsize his role in being “The Promoter”

Posted March 30, 2014 3:19 am 


Auzbox

No he should not have ran the show re-arum. But floyd can make 100 mill I just think its odd that he won’t try make the fight. The world wants to see it and if PAC beats Bradley as he should of the first time then the world will once again cry for it. Floyd has to pay a fee to golden boy does he not

Posted March 30, 2014 3:14 am 


Chris

Auzbox

He was paid 35 mill to fight cotto. He was offerered 40 mill to face floyd when manny was 1 p4p. Manny knew floyd would get more. You tell me this. If you we’re the best in the world and were king of your sport would you take 20 mill less to fight a guy your ranked higher than, knowing your last fight you only got 5 mill less?
Posted March 30, 2014 2:53 am

“Arum said Pacquiao will end up making some $22 million for his 12th-round stoppage of Cotto, while Cotto will end up with around $12 million. That is far higher than either fighter was guaranteed because, as is the case with most big fights, they worked for a percentage of the total sales.”
Pacquiao-Cotto tops Mayweather in PPV, ESPN, By Dan Rafael, Updated: November 20, 2009

It’s about the numbers. Richard wanted to bring in an independent 3rd part to the table, have both sides open the books, and have the 3rd party determine what was fair. Arum never took him up on the offer.

P4P is a subjective title. Most Pros had Floyd even or even as the best. Again, I don’t count writers.

Again, I understand the 40 million offer was a wise choice not to take but I was making a point…it was more money than Pac had previously made.

Again, what about Bob’s participation in it all. Would you give him his percentage and or let him run the show like he wanted?

Posted March 30, 2014 3:08 am 


Auzbox

And yeh arum would be cut in but floyd would take 100 mill home all for himself. There is no other fighter that is going to make him that sort of $

Posted March 30, 2014 3:01 am 


Auzbox

He was paid 35 mill to fight cotto. He was offerered 40 mill to face floyd when manny was 1 p4p. Manny knew floyd would get more. You tell me this. If you we’re the best in the world and were king of your sport would you take 20 mill less to fight a guy your ranked higher than, knowing your last fight you only got 5 mill less?

Posted March 30, 2014 2:53 am 


Chris

Floyd offered Pac 40 million which would have been Pac’s biggest payday. Why didn’t he take the offer?

Posted March 30, 2014 2:18 am 


Chris

Auzbox

And as for floyd not fighting arums fighters is a cop out. Why not take the biggest pay he will ever get because of an 82 year old man. Don’t gloat that you can beat fighters that your not prepared to face.
Posted March 30, 2014 2:07 am

Ah, because that Old Man wants Promotional Rights/Cut that Floyd doesn’t have to give up because he can do it on his own.

Could you give up millions to Arum?

what’s the going rate of a promoter, 30%+? How much would Arum receive of that 30%?

And would that be domestic PPV or all around money generated throughout the World?
How about the gate? Have you ever read why Floyd gets the amount he does?

Posted March 30, 2014 2:16 am 


Chris

Auzbox

Yeh maybe it should be vacant but Floyd doesn’t deserve it as he never fights the best competition.
Posted March 30, 2014 2:05 am

Yeah, now that I really think about it, I would put it like this: I could think of Pac being fighter of the decade while Floyd being the best fighter if you go by the Pros opinion.

Posted March 30, 2014 2:12 am 


Auzbox

And as for floyd not fighting arums fighters is a cop out. Why not take the biggest pay he will ever get because of an 82 year old man. Don’t gloat that you can beat fighters that your not prepared to face.

Posted March 30, 2014 2:07 am 


Auzbox

Yeh maybe it should be vacant but Floyd doesn’t deserve it as he never fights the best competition.

Posted March 30, 2014 2:05 am 


Chris

But would I, a non expert just like the writers, give it to FLoyd? NO. Neither Pac or Floyd deserved to have the sole spot. That could have only been determined had they fought each other. Its vacant in my opinion.

Posted March 30, 2014 1:53 am 


Chris

Auzbox

And also chris debating an award that has already been awarded is no different then taking a Super Bowl off the winner this year. It’s done and it is in the history books. And I would say if floyd fights khan or any other so so fight before the end he might miss out on this decade
Posted March 29, 2014 11:46 pm

Again, an award voted by who? Writers? Sorry but I’ll take Pro Fighters and some Trainers opinions.

Super Bowl Winner is determined by a competition of two teams battling it out to determine a winner while “voting” is subjective. And again, it wasn’t done by the “Experts” which are the PRO Fighters.

Posted March 30, 2014 1:48 am 


Chris

But even then, Pac has filled out to 147 even in his days fighting at LW. Fight-time weight is the key to it all.

Posted March 30, 2014 1:44 am 


Chris

Auzbox

Well chris I call debatable fighting the likes of Ortiz and guerro, making them sound like credible opponents. People see through that and know what it really is. The same as floyd ever fighting khan won’t be acceptable he is an easy beat for all the top 10 guys at welter. As for callazo do you think of he wins he deserves a shot? I don’t think so. PAC has came up 7 divisions when he fights at welter so maybe it’s time to see floyd fight a top 160 guy cause thats only 6 divisions. It’s ok for PAC to fight up and floyd is bigger than PAC, so lets see it. The division is dry and PAC and Bradley are the next best 2 and those fights don’t look to be on the horizon
Posted March 29, 2014 11:10 pm

Khan and Collazo will have to do a lot more to fight Floyd. No Way should either get a shot at Floyd off a victory. It’s only a start. The Winner would have to step up big time in their next fight and win to get Floyd which might be the thinking. This fight is the warmer and the next is the ticket to Floyd.

Divisions: ONE, Pac was never in his original weight class for his natural size. His true size is around 135. Isn’t that why people say he was knocked out years ago because he was basically a malnourished kid fighting in a weight class that was to light for him? Once he came to the States, found out what eating and training was about, he filled out.

Divisions: The lighter the weight division, the separation in weight class “tends” to be smaller. Not always but mostly.

GGG, 160 to 168 is 8 pounds. Bigger jump than 130 to 135. Of course, from 168 to 175 is 7 pounds instead of 9 had the math increased per division by more, but, 160 to 175 is 15 pounds which would be 3 division, not 2, in most cases in the lower weight class. If that makes sense. From LH to CW, big leap.

Pac and Bradley are Top Rank Fighter. Arum would have to allow for a buyout or hold back on his part of the Promotional demand since Floyd is his own entity. He doesn’t need Arum to promote. And both Pac and Bradley know this.

Posted March 30, 2014 1:43 am 


Mike Tyson

Guys you are missing the logic point, rio could knock out PAC. PAC just came form a knock out aka marquez . he don’t want to knock out rio, because its a two way street you throw a hard ko punch he block it or you miss rio could knock manny out. You only go for the ko when you got him hurt because he thinking defense not trying to ko you back. PAC was playing it safe.

So it’s was a expected PAC win by U.D. Whitch also showed PAC was faster and has returned to boxing, as that it what it take to win over Bradley and Floyd.

Posted March 30, 2014 12:55 am 


Auzbox

And also chris debating an award that has already been awarded is no different then taking a Super Bowl off the winner this year. It’s done and it is in the history books. And I would say if floyd fights khan or any other so so fight before the end he might miss out on this decade

Posted March 29, 2014 11:46 pm 


Auzbox

Well chris I call debatable fighting the likes of Ortiz and guerro, making them sound like credible opponents. People see through that and know what it really is. The same as floyd ever fighting khan won’t be acceptable he is an easy beat for all the top 10 guys at welter. As for callazo do you think of he wins he deserves a shot? I don’t think so. PAC has came up 7 divisions when he fights at welter so maybe it’s time to see floyd fight a top 160 guy cause thats only 6 divisions. It’s ok for PAC to fight up and floyd is bigger than PAC, so lets see it. The division is dry and PAC and Bradley are the next best 2 and those fights don’t look to be on the horizon

Posted March 29, 2014 11:10 pm 


Tomato Can Stan

Chris – “He just got to greedy”

I think the “greed” was spurred on because he was heavily criticized for drawing so close with Marquez so many times.

So Pacquiao wanted to end out the classic rivalry with an emphatic conclusion. So he stepped up to the plate, went for broke……and got KOed. I thought Pac was the most aggressive yet in his fourth bout with Marquez.

Pacquiao is better off winning another points decision against Marquez, because as a counter-puncher that’s just Marquez relishes, you getting sloppy and careless and coming forward and then him catching you with a counter.

Points is the way to with Manny because in all four bouts he clearly out-landed Marquez.

Enjoy the Kovalev fight, my friend.

Posted March 29, 2014 10:09 pm 


Chris

Auzbox

The mayweather fight is dead. Who cares anymore. It doesn’t matter who PAC fights all the floydoids do is bag him. Before dela fight they say he would be killed but after make excuses. Same with cotto, after dumb floyd guzzlers make excuses. Half the people on here said PAC would loose to rios but after call him a punching bag. At the end of the day PAC is an ATG and no matter who on here bags him he is the fighter of the past decade
Posted March 29, 2014 8:26 pm

Debatable if he is the fighter of the past decade considering more PRO Fighters and Trainers say its Floyd and their opinion matters more given their expertise in the field.

The fair thing would be to say it was even since they both did enough to rise above the others but didn’t separate themselves from each other which they could have did if they had fought each other.

Posted March 29, 2014 9:54 pm 


Chris

Tomato Can Stan

I think it depends on how “little bit left” is defined exactly. if the Rios fight was closer and Pac won a decent UD, yeah, “a little bit left.” But Manny schooled Rios with speed, agility, combinations, and overall boxing ability. Like embarrassing schooled. Rios isn’t JMM as he is a brawler first, boxer second but he is still good and who has done to Rios what Pac did to him?

I was actually surprised. I too wondered if Pac could come back from that KO loss especially at his age. Not so much confidence wise because Pac is a different kind of person. He has come back from defeat like that years ago and is just mentally tough. Like Holyfield tough.

I thought he looked very good against JMM as well and had the upper hand before the KO. He just got to greedy.

If there was something I didn’t like in the Rios fight it was that he didn’t seem to have that same fire/intensity. It was like he was going through the motions. But was that done to caution, his fire dwindling because he doesn’t have the fuel for the sport anymore, or is it because it was Rios and not Floyd or JMM (Revenge) in front of him?

Posted March 29, 2014 9:50 pm 


Auzbox

The mayweather fight is dead. Who cares anymore. It doesn’t matter who PAC fights all the floydoids do is bag him. Before dela fight they say he would be killed but after make excuses. Same with cotto, after dumb floyd guzzlers make excuses. Half the people on here said PAC would loose to rios but after call him a punching bag. At the end of the day PAC is an ATG and no matter who on here bags him he is the fighter of the past decade

Posted March 29, 2014 8:26 pm 


Tomato Can Stan

Chris – Fair and balanced commentary on each of Pac’s elite fights.

I’m glad you are objective.

I just think there is a little bit left in Pac. He’s never taken a sustained beating over rounds and he was winning against Bradley, and was winning against Marquez as well before he walked into that shot and he looked decent against Rios.

After all Lewis came back from a KO loss.

Posted March 29, 2014 7:59 pm 


Mike Tyson

PAC get ko’ ed again

Posted March 29, 2014 7:19 pm 


Mike Tyson

Yea . but funny before the rio fight everybody said PAC will get knock out again as nobody came back from a ok. And they were also saying this time PAC fighting a young rio on the rise fighter not a declining fighter.
PAC get ok again….lol we’ll , what happen?

Posted March 29, 2014 7:18 pm 


Jonn E. JaGozza

I don’t know how much Packman has ledt otr Bradley wither but I know for me that if Pacquio doesn’t have a good showing against Bradley, he’ll never fight Mayweather ALSO, I give him credit to fight to avenge his loss against Bradley… We’ll have to see what happens and lastly the massacre that Packman did to Rios means nothing to me as Rios should never have been in the ring with Pacquio, That was a total mismatch and Rios is lucky he wasn’t killed.. he should retire .. PEACE …Theboxingdictionary.com . .. “The Language of the Ring”

Posted March 29, 2014 7:00 pm 


Fight Aficionado

“The Bradley fight is a lot more significant than the De La Hoya fight… Oscar didn’t have the chance of a snowflake in Hell…” – TARK, when know that in retrospect but remember Oscar was nearly a 2/1 favorite. He was the bigger guy coming down from 154 and Pac was coming up in his third weight division in two years. The result was shocking to many fans.

Posted March 29, 2014 6:13 pm 


Chris

Chris

Anonymous

Always makes me laugh when the Ripped Fuel Brigade and the Jones’ fans harp on about their god Jones losing ”25lbs of pure muscle”. Jones weighed 193lbs on the official HBO scales, not the 199lbs that he weighed on his bathroom scales. And he used to weigh-in in the mid 180s after rehydration on the night of the fight. That’s hardly 25lbs of pure muscle. And that ”pure muscle” wasn’t exactly that pure when you think about it seeing as he’d unquestionably been juicing to get himself up to that weight

The Chris Byrd comparison is comical as well. Byrd used to weigh in at about 214 to 215lbs on average and he even weighed 220lbs and over a few times. He dropped close to 40lbs to fight at 175lbs. He looked like a completely different person. He said people who’d known him for years didn’t even recognize him when they walked past him.

_________________END POST

Ripped fuel contained Andro/Pro hormone supplements which show up as “steroids” because in a way, they are. It’s why they were banned after athletes were popping up for failed tests. Interesting thing is, the guy who made Andro was also part of Balco except Andro was legal. Ripped Fuel Plus had pro hormones in it. Richard Hall too failed and at a higher level. The problem with the failed mark was that it never indicated what he failed for other than “elevated levels” from what the reporter told me.

Now, does that mean he never used steroids or even for that fight? No, I don’t know. We don’t know about anyone post 1955.
Posted March 29, 2014 4:46 pm

Posted March 29, 2014 4:48 pm 


Chris

Anonymous

Always makes me laugh when the Ripped Fuel Brigade and the Jones’ fans harp on about their god Jones losing ”25lbs of pure muscle”. Jones weighed 193lbs on the official HBO scales, not the 199lbs that he weighed on his bathroom scales. And he used to weigh-in in the mid 180s after rehydration on the night of the fight. That’s hardly 25lbs of pure muscle. And that ”pure muscle” wasn’t exactly that pure when you think about it seeing as he’d unquestionably been juicing to get himself up to that weight.

The Chris Byrd comparison is comical as well. Byrd used to weigh in at about 214 to 215lbs on average and he even weighed 220lbs and over a few times. He dropped close to 40lbs to fight at 175lbs. He looked like a completely different person. He said people who’d known him for years didn’t even recognize him when they walked past him.

Ripped fuel contained Andro/Pro hormone supplements which show up as “steroids” because in a way, they are. It’s why they were banned after athletes were popping up for failed tests. Interesting thing is, the guy who made Andro was also part of Balco except Andro was legal. Ripped Fuel Plus had pro hormones in it. Richard Hall too failed and at a higher level. The problem with the failed mark was that it never indicated what he failed for other than “elevated levels” from what the reporter told me.

Now, does that mean he never used steroids or even for that fight? No, I don’t know. We don’t know about anyone post 1955.

Posted March 29, 2014 4:46 pm 


Chris

Anonymous

Roy was never the same after the Balco scandal broke. His form dipped at exactly the same time that happened. He beat Tarver on a MD then lost his next three fights in a row after it broke.
Posted March 29, 2014 12:56 pm

Roy wasn’t a part of Balco, Shane MOsley was.

By the way, Chris Byrd dropped down to LH and look what it did to him. Funny thing is, Tarver gained weight for a movie, dropped the weight, looked lethargic/horrible against Hopkins, blamed being poisoned or whatever, but really found out what it is like to gain weight then lose it through dieting down and at such an age.

Posted March 29, 2014 4:41 pm 


Hecdog

The great Manny Pacquiao will continue his tour on the tv networks as he will appear on the April 2nd Jimmy Kimmel show. The man does not leave our eyes when his fights are scheduled. What is really exciting and can’t miss viewing is that former President Bill Clinton and Future President Manny Pacquiao will be shoulder to shoulder on the show albeit a few feet difference in height. Bill Clinton was once the most powerful man on the planet, and Manny Pacquiao is quite possibly the current most powerful man on the planet. As I have mentioned before, Manny brings out the most influential and important people on this earth when he fights. Manny’s fights are important to the well being of society. Manny thrives on this attention, and he never fails to perform when he’s on stage. Manny Pacquiao has a confidence in him that allows him to deal with any and all distractions. His beautiful wife Jinkee will not be ringside due to her pregnancy. Manny will be without his queen of queens, but he has her in his heart and will use her to put on a spectacular performance against Timothy Bradley. This PPV historic Boxing event will bring in huge numbers. Manny Pacquiao doesn’t need Khan, Broner or any other fighter to boost his numbers. Manny is Manny and he stands alone. He is today’s most attractive fighter when it comes to his fighting style and as a human being. Manny is fighting a very tough, durable and dangerous Timothy Bradley. Floyd Mayweather is fighting a very predictable, slow as molasses, one dimensional, no defense, C level fighter in Marcos Maidana. Yes Maidana is tough as nails, but his technical boxing ability, agility and speed are horrible. He can punch and maybe he can land one, but this fight was specifically chosen by Mayweather first because it’s an easy stylistic match up and second because he can show up his baby brother Broner and thirdly to make himself look good against a tough plodding, stationery guy like Maidana. Manny Pacquiao is admired and respected inside the ring much much more than Mayweather because he takes chances, something Mayweather has avoided all his life. Tune in on April 2nd and April 12th to the arguably the greatest boxing talent and entertainment talent of all time, Manny Pacquiao is the best!

Posted March 29, 2014 4:38 pm 


Popkins

Bradley is the WBO champ. … Yet even the WBO agreed Pacquiao won the fight!!!!

Posted March 29, 2014 4:33 pm 


Havoc

Pac lose the first fight according to the judges! Too bad people who saw the fight think differently other wise. Boxing judges need to have a better view when judging, instead of sitting in one side of the ring and will have some blind spots when punches landed and not count. They should (all three judges) suspend or have a high chair like in tennis, sit them high in the side of the ring to eliminate the blind spot and then every round is done they will raise a flag ( for Bradley or Pacqiuoa) who they score the round. People will see who is doing thier job right and who is a bias or curropt judge! Just a tought of me thinking maybe this is one way to improve boxing.

Posted March 29, 2014 4:07 pm 


Tomato Can Stan

“Scoring a boxing match is a complex thing, and not something so easy as looking at the final score in the corner of the television as the clock winds down. But the reaction to the conclusion of Saturday’s fight between Manny Pacquiao and Timothy Bradley was universally apoplectic, with promoter Bob Arum calling the decision a “death knell” for boxing and plenty of other spectators suggesting a more sinister motivation behind the surprising decision. Whether you watched the fight or merely watched the hubbub unfold over Twitter, the facts seem pretty stark: by most accounts, Pacquiao landed a higher percentage of his punches and landed more hits in 10 out of the 12 rounds. Bradley himself said he’d have to check the tape to see if he “really won.” But when it was all over, two of the three judges ruled in Bradley’s favor, giving him the victory.

That said, the decision wasn’t completely baseless: Though he expresses support for Pacquiao, the Journal’s Gordon Marino called the fight “a window into the subjectivity of boxing,” noting how Bradley’s late-round surge of energy might’ve pushed the judges into his corner. For what it’s worth, Pacquiao was equitable if unyielding in his post-match statement, and declared his excitement for a rematch. On the other hand, Arum said that won’t take place until there’s an investigation into the results, though as Yahoo’s Kevin Iole notes, Arum “will likely accede to Pacquiao’s wishes.” All of which means you should expect the controversy to be on everyone’s lips for at least a little while longer.

“While the judges’ decision was inexplicable, some things are clear about Pacquiao’s future. A match with currently jailed Floyd Mayweather Jr. won’t be happening anytime soon, if at all. The public is disgusted and tired by the two athletes’ inability to make the fight happen, and both men’s skill are visibly on the wane,” Gary Andrew Poole writes for Time. “Pacquiao’s next fight will most likely be a re-match against Bradley on Nov. 10. As for the fighting congressman of the Philippines, he will soon be visiting the Holy Land. Perhaps the better to understand the Lord’s intentions.”

Posted March 29, 2014 3:07 pm 


Tomato Can Stan

“no PAC didn’t win the 1st fight v Bradley”

I suggest you watch it again with corrective lenses, then you might have a change of heart

There is such a thing as a bum decision in boxing, unfortunately

Posted March 29, 2014 2:52 pm 


Ray Ray

More pactards crying….no PAC didn’t win the 1st fight v Bradley…..no matter what I or any1 else thinks, the result will never ever ever b changed? Look 2 the future, that’s the only thing u have control of….not the past. Is this the same anonymous posting? I agree 100% with ur posts. Very accurate, nice.

Posted March 29, 2014 1:34 pm 


Perdun

Wish Roy had fought tarver before the weight gain. Would have been a beating like Roy gave woods

Posted March 29, 2014 1:12 pm 


Anonymous

Roy was never the same after the Balco scandal broke. His form dipped at exactly the same time that happened. He beat Tarver on a MD then lost his next three fights in a row after it broke.

Posted March 29, 2014 12:56 pm 


mansworld

Roy was never the same after he went back down to 175 his reflexes were shot. Roy’s thing was similar to Floyd making you miss and counter you with speed. But that tyle relies on footwork and movement and he lost all of that after he went back down to 175..

Posted March 29, 2014 12:53 pm 


Anonymous

Always makes me laugh when the Ripped Fuel Brigade and the Jones’ fans harp on about their god Jones losing ”25lbs of pure muscle”. Jones weighed 193lbs on the official HBO scales, not the 199lbs that he weighed on his bathroom scales. And he used to weigh-in in the mid 180s after rehydration on the night of the fight. That’s hardly 25lbs of pure muscle. And that ”pure muscle” wasn’t exactly that pure when you think about it seeing as he’d unquestionably been juicing to get himself up to that weight.

The Chris Byrd comparison is comical as well. Byrd used to weigh in at about 214 to 215lbs on average and he even weighed 220lbs and over a few times. He dropped close to 40lbs to fight at 175lbs. He looked like a completely different person. He said people who’d known him for years didn’t even recognize him when they walked past him.

Posted March 29, 2014 12:48 pm 


Chris

Popkins

Yes. Looking back Pac’s first fight with Bradley was a good win for Pacquiao. It’s just a shame he has an L on his record for it. I hope he puts that nonsense right this time by KOing Bradley.
Posted March 29, 2014 12:18 pm

The majority know Pac won that fight. And I too am hoping Pac knocks out Bradley but will surely take a schooling like Pac did to Rios. Yes, some were saying Pac has *lost* it and all this nonsense but that is ridiculous. His speed, agility, combination attacks were all there. What wasn’t quite there was his power but it was RIOS and maybe a bit of that fire but that could also be because it was Rios (and not JMM, and Floyd). Tyson even thought it was spectacular. But like Tyson, if Pac isn’t knocking guys out, it was a sub-par performance.

Posted March 29, 2014 12:31 pm 


Anonymous

Popkins

Yes. Looking back Pac’s first fight with Bradley was a good win for Pacquiao. It’s just a shame he has an L on his record for it. I hope he puts that nonsense right this time by KOing Bradley.
Posted March 29, 2014 12:18 pm

The majority know Pac won that fight. And I too am hoping Pac knocks out Bradley but will surely take a schooling like Pac did to Rios. Yes, some were saying Pac has lot it and all this nonsense but that is ridiculous. His speed, agility, combination attacks were all there. What wasn’t quite there was his power but it was RIOS and maybe a bit of that fire but that could also be because it was Rios (and not JMM, and Floyd). Tyson even thought it was spectacular. But like Tyson, if Pac isn’t knocking guys out, it was a sub-par performance.

Posted March 29, 2014 12:30 pm 


Popkins

Yes. Looking back Pac’s first fight with Bradley was a good win for Pacquiao. It’s just a shame he has an L on his record for it. I hope he puts that nonsense right this time by KOing Bradley.

Posted March 29, 2014 12:18 pm 


Popkins

Chris… Nice breakdown of Pac’s best wins. The De La Hoya win is what it is: one great fighter taking a famous crushing victory over another great fighter that was clearly (well in PAC/Oscar, using hindsight and also taking into account Oscar’s inability to rehydrate after the weigh-in) past his best. Lewis battered Tyson, Marciano destroyed Louis, Calzaghe embarrassed RJJ, Holmes thrashed Ali…add Manny’s defeat of Oscar to that list.

Posted March 29, 2014 12:15 pm 


Chris

And Bradley was a good win.

Posted March 29, 2014 12:03 pm 


A . Garcia

If Paquiao beats Bradley im sure every P4P list will put Paquiao back at #2 or #3 P4P. He still needs to avenge the Marquez Ko.
Paquio vs DeLaHoya had no meaning . DeLaHoya was a household name, but not a 147 at the time of fight, he was on the way out.
Delahoya vs Trinidad, Mosley, Mayweather in there time and weight had more meaning.
Arum again promoting Paquiao thats his job, thats how he makes money. He couldnt use Mayweathers name on this one like always , so he used the next best name in there time.

Posted March 29, 2014 11:40 am 


Chris

Tomato Can Stan

Chris – I’m sure you can find excuses for all of Pacquiao’s quality opponents : Morales, Barrera, Marquez, Cotto, Mosley and Hatton.

The bottom line is that is a superb resume, and Pacquiao dispatched these guys in much more impressive fashion than Mayweather, other than Marquez.

Pacquiao is a force to be reckoned with, a dynamic and exciting fighter that possesses speed, power and dazzling footwork.

The only thing he does not have is Mayweather’s defensive mastery, but even that is declining a little in Mayweather as he ages, as we saw a more stationary Mayweather against the ropes getting bloodied by a game Cotto.
Posted March 29, 2014 11:21 am

EXCUSES ARE DIFFERENT THAN REASONS. “Reasons” can be backed up. Excuses can’t.

MAB was a great win. Some argue the battles with Morales took its toll but i don’t think so.

Morales: Iffy fight. He didn’t look healthy for the second and third fight but more so for the third fight. He was having weight trouble. It was known so that’s not an excuse. Even Roach said it and refused to allow morales/pac to be up one division.

JMM: Best win on Pac’s resume. JMM was in Peak form, future HOF, and Pac won very very close fights.

Cotto: Well it was a post-KO’d version that margarito battered but I’ve always thought Cotto was someone that you could knock out if you could go after him. We saw the signs of that with both Corley and Torres. Some argue he was stronger as he moved up but Roach did have him come down slightly.
I think Prime Pac beats Prime Cotto no matter what.

Mosley: Just OLD. Fact.

Hatton: I thought it was a great win. The only one that truly discredit that before the fight was Roach who said he didn’t think Hatton was the same fighter after Floyd knocked him out.

So his best wins out of the above for Pac, his beat-down of MAB, his victory over JMM (even if people debate it) and his KO of Hatton regardless if he was or wasn’t the same after Floyd…that was brutal and quick.

Posted March 29, 2014 11:34 am 


Tomato Can Stan

Chris – I’m sure you can find excuses for all of Pacquiao’s quality opponents : Morales, Barrera, Marquez, Cotto, Mosley and Hatton.

The bottom line is that is a superb resume, and Pacquiao dispatched these guys in much more impressive fashion than Mayweather, other than Marquez.

Pacquiao is a force to be reckoned with, a dynamic and exciting fighter that possesses speed, power and dazzling footwork.

The only thing he does not have is Mayweather’s defensive mastery, but even that is declining a little in Mayweather as he ages, as we saw a more stationary Mayweather against the ropes getting bloodied by a game Cotto.

Posted March 29, 2014 11:21 am 


Chris

Ok, forget all the picks, forget what Roach knew first hand and was willing to bet on…we can give Pac the credit for taking the fight, but do you think Oscar was healthy at his age, how long he had been away from the WW division, and decided to train and diet down to 147 pounds for camp and on on fight-night?

Was this the same Oscar that fought Shane Mosley? Or even Floyd at 154?

Posted March 29, 2014 11:05 am 


Chris

Popkins

Chris … A mixture of boxers, trainers and journalists. Malignaggi, RJJ’s trainer Merkerson, Kendall Holt, Juan Diaz, David Diaz, Brian Kenny from ESPN, …all picked De La Hoya. Hindsight is a wonderful thing.
Posted March 29, 2014 10:35 am

How many knew Oscar was going to show up at 147 on fight-night? Only his camp knew that. Although, there was indication when reviewing the 24/7 series when Oscar was on the scale and hit that mark but people on the boards thought it was b.s. and just for show.

People also remember what Oscar “was” and not what he “is” at the time. They did the same with Mike Tyson a lot with “He’s back.” Ever watch the Botha fight? right before the big KO they were saying, “This is the mark of a shot fighter…..etc. etc. etc.” and then BAM! Mike lands a big one and people are screaming he is back. But he was never back. He was gone with hints of yesterday.

Hindsight is easier to tell because its an investigation. It’s an autopsy. You can only know so much. History is our best guide usually but like I said, few pay attention to it. ROACH paid attention to it and basked in the glory of knowing when he listed off name after name of fighters that failed to do the same. Roach made it his job to know everything he could before putting Manny in there with Oscar.

Posted March 29, 2014 10:47 am 


Popkins

Chris … A mixture of boxers, trainers and journalists. Malignaggi, RJJ’s trainer Merkerson, Kendall Holt, Juan Diaz, David Diaz, Brian Kenny from ESPN, …all picked De La Hoya. Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

Posted March 29, 2014 10:35 am 


den

MAKE SURE THERE BLOOD TESTING OTHERWISE ITS JUST ANOTHER BOXING BS THAT THE PUBLIC IS TIRED OF BASEBALL REALIZE JUST HOW BAD STEROID WERE IN THERE SPORT AND BOXING 100 TIMES WORST WITH A USELESS COMMISSIONER THAT WASTE TAXPAYERS MONEY HOW THESE CITIES DO NOT GET SUE IS BEYOND ME BUT BOXING NEEDS TO UPRADE THERE STEROID TESTING NOW THE SPORT IS ALREADY A JOKE

Posted March 29, 2014 10:32 am 


Chris

Rich

I guess a lot of you on here were not around boxing in 2008 or you would be a bit more familiar with the truth on the Oscar v Manny fight ….Yes it was considered by most as a mismatch,but it was Manny they felt sorry for…Larry Merchant thought it was a joke because Pac would have to leap up two weight divisions and was way to small……He was 4 inches shorter than Oscar who also had a 6 inch reach advantage…It was Hoya who proposed the fight and also called the weight class..to his credit he did this because he said he had a big advantage in size and reach….When you come on here with misplaced boxing knowledge labelled as fact don’t be surprised if you are termed as a twat
Posted March 29, 2014 5:24 am

Yes, true, people thought Manny was at a huge disadvantage but these are also people that continually forget history. I have no idea why people forget their history if given their positions as boxers, trainers, writers and analysts, etc…but they do. Sad really.
And history has shown us repeatedly that fighters do not do well coming back down in weight after an increase of weight and then decrease. Especially after years away.

Two great examples during that time were Jones jr and Chris Byrd given the age group specifically as well as coming back down in weight.

AND, nobody but Team Oscar knew he was actually going to be 147 for the fight. Usually, you are walking around 10+ over, then dehydrate for the scales, and then rehydrate. This guy actually burned off the weight which killed his body.

Posted March 29, 2014 10:23 am 


Chris

Popkins

Tim Bradley was actually one of only two people of the 20 experts asked that picked Manny to beat Oscar.
Posted March 29, 2014 9:21 am

Were all 20 “experts” boxers or trainers? If not, let’s strike them off the list immediately. Other than that, YES, many picked Oscar to beat Manny, however, I do recall enough people/boxers/trainers question if Oscar could make the weight healthy and used the “If he is healthy, he beats Manny” line a lot.

Roach I think may have been on of the few that didn’t think Oscar was going to make the weight healthy which is why he knew the advantage was in his favor. He delved deeper into it after the fight with names from history who tried to come back down in weight and lost horribly.

Posted March 29, 2014 10:16 am 


Tomato Can Stan

People say Pac is on the decline, but he looked pretty good in his last few outings. He just got a bum decision and was winning against Marquez until he walked into that shot.

It could be Pac got unfocused on boxing because he does so many things outside it. Many this woke him up and reignited the hungry fire. Sometimes losses do that.

Or it could be decline. We’ll see…..this fight should be a good indicator.

By the way, I thought Pac looked much better against Bradley than Marquez did.

Posted March 29, 2014 9:50 am 


Popkins

Tim Bradley was actually one of only two people of the 20 experts asked that picked Manny to beat Oscar.

Posted March 29, 2014 9:21 am 


Popkins

By fight night, people’s minds are clouded and lost in the anticipation/hype of the fight. Most people become more indecisive and end up believing what the promoters are telling them: that it’s going to be a great 50/50 fight. No promoters sell a fight as a lamb to the slaughter. Hell, in the UK Sky managed to convince people that Haye v Harrison was going to be a competitive fight and was pay per view worthy. So much so that they pulled in a decent a audience of people forking out £10 on the night of the fight because people were starting to believe the hype, ignoring all logic, in the wonder that it might actually be a close fight. lol.

Posted March 29, 2014 9:12 am 


PEEJ

Even with the 30+ hours to rehydrate, Oscar still only gained a couple pounds. Before hand most people picked Oscar. After the weigh in everybody picked Pac to win

Posted March 29, 2014 9:02 am 


PEEJ

Even with the 30+ hours to rehydrate, Oscar still only gained a couple pounds. Before hand most people picked Oscar. After the weigh in everybody picked Pac.

Posted March 29, 2014 9:02 am 


Popkins

Man, I count myself as a true boxing fan, but even I had forgotten how the boxing community truly viewed Pac v De La Hoya at the time. It seems, as with many events in history, people have a talent for using hindsight to erase their per-event opinions, and slowly but surely, a new “history” is written. And it becomes so common knowledge that what really happened seems far-fetched! Don’t you hate how easily the media/government can manipulate people?! Makes you wonder what else we’ve been brain washed into believing…

Posted March 29, 2014 8:58 am 


Popkins

So, even with careful consideration regarding Oscar having to drop back down to welterweight, the vast majority of the boxing world still viewed De La Hoya as a massive favourite to beat Pacquiao.

Posted March 29, 2014 8:51 am 


Popkins

…”The agreement to weigh in at the welterweight limit is an advantage for The Golden Boy….A few decades ago, back when weigh-ins took place on the day of the fight, maybe that wouldn’t have been the case, but with day-before weigh-ins, Oscar will have roughly 30 hours to rest, re-hydrate and replenish”….(the gap in size) “is obviously a gap that favours De La Hoya and gives Pacquiao some significant disadvantages to offset if he’s going to win”.

Posted March 29, 2014 8:48 am 


Popkins

And with regards to the question of who would the contacted weight limit favour? …. “The Filipino start JUST moved up to lightweight one fight ago. He’s at most a small lightweight now, and arguably could still be a junior lightweight. He’s certainly no welterweight.”….

Posted March 29, 2014 8:44 am 


Popkins

Rich…You make some great points. In the December 2008 Ring Magazine, 18 of the 20 experts asked picked De La Hoya to win, including: Dan Rafael, Brian Kenny, Steve Farhood and Claude Abrahams (Boxing News). Even the Ring’s Philippines correspondent picked Oscar by stoppage!!

Posted March 29, 2014 8:38 am 


Ike

After Arum bribed the judges in the first fight for Bradley to win, of course he’s going to say this fight is as big as De la Hoya-Pacquiao. I’m surprised he’s not saying it’s bigger than Mayweather-Pacquiao.

Posted March 29, 2014 8:02 am 


PEEJ

The Pac vs Oscar fight was only significant for Pacs career money wise. Oscar was a finished fighter in that fight and hand no chance against body who would of stood on the ring with him

Posted March 29, 2014 7:58 am 


Auzbox

Where have you been rich finally a man with sense

Posted March 29, 2014 7:04 am 


Rich

MANSWORLD….what is the name of this supper juice that gives you a master KO punch power and where can I buy it

Posted March 29, 2014 5:30 am 


Rich

I guess a lot of you on here were not around boxing in 2008 or you would be a bit more familiar with the truth on the Oscar v Manny fight ….Yes it was considered by most as a mismatch,but it was Manny they felt sorry for…Larry Merchant thought it was a joke because Pac would have to leap up two weight divisions and was way to small……He was 4 inches shorter than Oscar who also had a 6 inch reach advantage…It was Hoya who proposed the fight and also called the weight class..to his credit he did this because he said he had a big advantage in size and reach….When you come on here with misplaced boxing knowledge labelled as fact don’t be surprised if you are termed as a twat

Posted March 29, 2014 5:24 am 


Auzbox

Got any proof of peds. And floyd hasn’t had a KO since 09 either. He is smarter now and less reckless. Rios isn’t a guy that gets stopped. He out boxed Bradley and will again in two weeks

Posted March 29, 2014 4:38 am 


Rich

Gonzo…..You are breaking my heart with this Pac stuff, all you missed out was old dog Shep going brown bread and the orphanage burning down…..It,s enough to bring a tear to a glass eye……But Manny sold doughnuts on the street to buy rice…..Why didn’t he just eat the doughnuts…….We had it really rough when I was a kid…it was years before we could afford to buy any onyx and finish our conservatory……

Posted March 29, 2014 4:31 am 


mansworld

Azzbox why couldn’t Manny stop Bradley, Marquez or Rios. Fact is ne has no more KO power. Hell last good fighter he beat was a dehydrated Cotto way back in 09. Rios was so garbage anyone could have looked good against a guy who cant fight. He was clearly Handpicked by Arum. Manny will have his hand full with Tim though the jury is still out on your boy Manny. He is a average fighter without the superman juice anyone can see that he is not the same without Riods…

Posted March 29, 2014 4:13 am 


Auzbox

Hecbus you are 100 percent right. PAC landed 94 more punches but these guys like poor pactard love manny cause they write all over his stories

Posted March 29, 2014 3:27 am 


Auzbox

Coming from you is rich poor mayweather!

Posted March 29, 2014 3:25 am 


poor pacturds

Gonzo the Dragonborn is a biiootch with no boxing Knowledge you are a delusional homo rambler like hec dog and the rest of the tards. Who continue to suck Mannys immigrant sack every chance you get. You boys cannot stand the fact that a black man is running boxing Floyd is the man and Manny will never be on top. Haters are welcome but the reality is he continues to win while Manny cannot get pat his nemesis Bradley and Marquez.

Posted March 29, 2014 1:31 am 


Thurmal Underwear

Gonzo the Dragonborn

Apologies to my fanbase for my French. I did actually mean to put the N before the U in that naughty word I used but kinda messed up.

Posted March 29, 2014 12:20 am

^apologizes when everyone already knows your sorry; f vck ing cornball.

Posted March 29, 2014 12:28 am 


hecubus

Just saw the pac/bradley fight for the 4th or 5th time and anyone who thinks that was a close fight should either stop posting here or start writing esb. Pacquiao controlled the entire fight and outlanded bradley by 100 punches. I think its all over for bradley on april 12

Posted March 29, 2014 12:27 am 


Gonzo the Dragonborn

Apologies to my fanbase for my French. I did actually mean to put the N before the U in that naughty word I used but kinda messed up.

Posted March 29, 2014 12:20 am 


Thurmal Underwear

Gonzo the Dragonborn

Right, I’m off to bed.

Thermal Underpants.. You can get some Gonzo anal justice on the morrow.

Posted March 29, 2014 12:14 am

^rehearse the nite away dragon breath.

Posted March 29, 2014 12:19 am 


Gonzo the Dragonborn

Right, I’m off to bed.

Thermal Underpants.. You can get some Gonzo anal justice on the morrow.

Posted March 29, 2014 12:14 am 


Thurmal Underwear

EMAN Sr.

The significance of Pac-Dela Hoya was the evidence the boxing folks presented to the fans — that promoters and boxers alike would go to silly extent if the money is right, and die-hard casual fans would bite the hype. Dela Hoya almost killed himself dehydrating. Team Pac relished the fact that they were fighting a zombie. The network was just ecstatic money poured in. What was it to the boxing fans? Nothing but a novelty. Any boxer at Pac’s weight class could have done the same thing to Dela Hoya in that condition of his health. Heck, Valero was fired because he gave Oscar a blackeye in sparring.

Posted March 28, 2014 12:51 pm

^as in the late edwin valero? interesting. that guy was something to watch. i always thought to myself, hmm this guy would be a superb challenge for pacquaio.

Posted March 29, 2014 12:09 am 


Gonzo the Dragonborn

ROFL. I’m neither a Pactard or a Oscar fan. I’m talking about resume and specifically the size of Oscar’s bollocks in relation to those little rat eyes not swinging between Floyd’s urine-drenched yellow chicken thighs.

And if Oscar’s so overrated, what does that make Floyd? He nearly lost to a part-timer, semi-retired full time drug addict corpse of an Oscar who was 1-3 in his last 4 fights, and had only fought once in 20 months and was coming off a year long layoff and would go onto lose 2 of his next 3, making him really 2-5 in his last 7 fights, his two lone victories coming over a shot Mayorga who’d had ever single ounce of stuffing pounded out if him against Trinidad and journeyman Stevie Forbes.ROFL.

Posted March 29, 2014 12:07 am 


Thurmal Underwear

wait a minute…..is dude saving his +1 posts and reposting them? pffff wow. WOW.

Posted March 28, 2014 11:58 pm 


Thurmal Underwear

hecdog vs gonzo dragonbreath

^winner gets manny bukkaki

Posted March 28, 2014 11:52 pm 


Thurmal Underwear

Another sad day for Pactards

Oscar lost to a flat footed slow Trinadad. A past his prime sweet pea.
Lost to Mayweather at 154… Lmfao
Was givin a gift decision against Felix Strum.

Posted March 28, 2014 11:34 pm

Another sad day for Pactards

Perdun.. Floyd afraid??? Lmfao.. Floyd’s not the one who turned down a $40 million payday.. Floyd’s not the one who needed 6 months for a cut to heal. Floyd’s not the one who is afraid of needles. Floyd’s not the one who got knock the fu$ck out, By a 40 year old flat footed Mexican .

Posted March 28, 2014 11:31 pm

^ohhh buddy. it’s the double co-sign. oscar lost to anybody half decent. perhaps the only guy more overrated than pac. and yes, pac has something to hide. only a d!ckhe@d can’t see that.

Posted March 28, 2014 11:43 pm 


Another sad day for Pactards

Oscar lost to a flat footed slow Trinadad. A past his prime sweet pea.
Lost to Mayweather at 154… Lmfao
Was givin a gift decision against Felix Strum.

Posted March 28, 2014 11:34 pm 


Another sad day for Pactards

Perdun.. Floyd afraid??? Lmfao.. Floyd’s not the one who turned down a $40 million payday.. Floyd’s not the one who needed 6 months for a cut to heal. Floyd’s not the one who is afraid of needles. Floyd’s not the one who got knock the fu$ck out, By a 40 year old flat footed Mexican .

Posted March 28, 2014 11:31 pm 


Perdun

Oscar-Manny was significant?! Oscar was washed up then. Oscar-Floyd was significant and maybe should have been a draw. Floyd-PAC would be utterly significant, but Floyd is afraid.

Posted March 28, 2014 11:22 pm 


Gonzo the Dragonborn

One prime great Floyd ever fought??

Posted March 28, 2014 10:21 pm 


Gonzo the Dragonborn

Prime

Trinidad
Quartey
Mosley x 2
Hopkins
Floyd
Pacquiao

ROFL

Posted March 28, 2014 10:18 pm 


Gonzo the Dragonborn

1994: Jimmi Bredahl (16-0)- W TKO10 (Won WBO Super Featherweight title)
1994: Giorgio Campanella (20-0)- W TKO3
1994: Jorge Paez (53-6-4)- W KO2 (Won vacant WBO Lightweight title)
1994: John Avila (20-1-)- W TKO9
1995: John John Molina (36-3)- W UD12
1995: Rafael Ruelas (43-1)- W TKO2 (Won IBF Lightweight title)
1995: Genaro Hernandez (35-0-1)- W RTD6
1996: Jesse James Leija (30-1-2)- W TKO2
1996: Julio Cesar Chavez (96-1-1)- W TKO4 (Won WBC Jr. Welterweight title)
1997: Miguel Angel Gonzalez (41-0)- W UD12
1997: Pernell Whitaker (40-1-1)- W UD12 (Won WBC Welterweight title)
1997: Hector Comancho (63-3-1)- W UD12
1997: Wilfredo Rivera (27-2-1)- W TKO8
1998: Julio Cesar Chavez (100-2-2)- W RTD8
1999: Ike Quartey (34-0-1)- W SD12
1999: Oba Carr (48-2-1)- W TKO11
1999: Felix Trinidad (35-0)- L MD12 (Lost WBC Welterweight title)
2000: Derrell Coley (34-1-2)- W KO7
2000: Shane Mosley (34-0)- L SD12
2001: Arturo Gatti (33-4)- W TKO5
2001: Javier Castillejo (51-4)- W UD12 (Won WBC Super Welterweight title)
2002: Fernando Vargas (22-1)- W TKO11 (Won WBA Super Welterweight title)
2003: Luis Ramon Campas (80-5)- W TKO7
2003: Shane Mosley (38-2)- L UD12 (Lost WBC and WBA Super Welterweight titles)
2004: Felix Sturm (20-0)- W UD12 (Won WBO Middlweight title)
2004: Bernard Hopkins (44-2-1)- L KO9 (Lost WBO Middleweight title)
2006: Ricardo Mayorga (27-5-1)- W TKO6 (Won WBC Super Welterweight title)
2007: Floyd Mayweather Jr. (37-0)- L SD12 (Lost WBC Super Welterweight title)
2008: Manny Pacquiao (47-3-2)- L RTD8

vs

Henry Brussles and shot to sht Oscar’s corpse.

Posted March 28, 2014 10:15 pm 


Gonzo the Dragonborn

ROFL Gonz.

Posted March 28, 2014 10:13 pm 


TARK

Sunny.., “Shane Mosley and Oscar De La Hoya went out of their way to fight fighters in their prime.”

Maybe Shane Mosley did…

Oscar never rematched Trinidad to try and reverse his loss.

Oscar took 6 years to rematch Mosley to try and reverse his loss… He waited until Mosley had a 3-fight winless streak to try to even the score.

Winky Wright and Oscar De La Hoya were 154-pound champions at the same time—Wright continuously asked for a unification fight which would have been big money … But Oscar turned deaf ears to the big money opportunity. He even fought washed up Yory Boy Campas, instead of taking an almost certain beating by Wright.

You have to give it to Shane Mosley, when Oscar refused to negotiate in good faith with Mosley for a 3rd fight, Mosley gave Wright his much deserved opportunity to finally fight a big name.. Wright ended up beating Mosley twice and also beat Felix Trinidad with ease.

Two guys who went 3-0 over De La Hoya, Winky beat 3-0 himself… No wonder Oscar wanted nothing to do with him.

Posted March 28, 2014 10:12 pm 


Gonzo the Dragonborn

It’s Me, Ernie

Much respect to Brother Gonzo, the man, the myth, the legend…

Posted March 7, 2014 2:25 am

It’s Me, Ernie

Standing alone @ Tier One must be lonely at times, but your valor is much respected by us common aspiring folk. To be so generous with your gifting of points is honorable, yet at the same time viciously revoking them as needed is just pure beauty in its simplest form. Being Gonzo is a responsibility bestowed on you, and you handle it like Maidana handled Broner…

Posted March 7, 2014 2:23 am

Mangus

Gonzo is hella funny.

He’s also nearly always on point too.

Posted March 5, 2014 1:01 pm

Joseph Herron

LOL…I see the self proclaimed “Raven” (Gonzo) is spanking everyone on this site once again…LOL

Posted February 11, 2014 1:28 am

spartacus65

Goodevening. Gonzo the dragon born/ Edgar Allen Poe, sir I have to say you are one gutsy bloke. Your posts are definitely like how should I say? A virtual whirlwind of creativity! Like watching a cross between Pacquiao and Aaron Pryor. There is a method to the madness there for certain. Must admit I do enjoy them if for nothing more than the humor laced with some thought provoking view points. Peace and strength and a hearty cheers to you soldier.

Posted February 11, 2014 12:55 am

BEARS

everyone know your number one gonzo i dont think any sane mind disputes that fact.

Posted February 10, 2014 10:21 pm

BEARS

WOW!!! what a post GONZO!!! well said!!! well said!!! look out gonzo can wow a dude with his posts. hands down best post on this thread! THIS GUY gonzo is not number for no reason son.

Posted February 10, 2014 10:08 pm

Mayweather86

Gonzo is by far one if the most entertaining posters on here get a sense of humor and enjoy life a little.

Posted February 1, 2014 9:48 pm

BEARS

gonzo! thats my guy right there! number one poster on east side. better hope he forgives your boxing knowledge sins

Posted September 3, 2013 8:30 pm

Joseph Herron

Vivic’s vernacular, Gonzo’s gags, and old Yank’s yarns are part of what makes ESB the great boxing site going.

Posted August 31, 2013 2:12 pm

It’s Me, Ernie

Another fine example why Brother Gonzo is at Tier One…

Posted September 2, 2013 12:26 pm

Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. The Lion King of Beat Street)

Brother Gonzo. With that uniquely creative imagination and those wordsmithing skills you could write dark, macabre, action-adventure/horror-thrillers for a living. You could be the next Edgar Allen Poe and not even realize it.
– Posted August 21, 2013 3:34 pm

Turbo-H@mster

You have made a mistake now boy.

You don`t have to worry about who Gonzo is, you need to worry about what he is. He is a force of n@ture. He has f-c-u-k-d a hurric@ne. When he was born, even his d@ddy called him d@ddy.

Imagine if you will a Tsun@mi, but rather than being made of water, it is comprised of pure Ande@n Cond0r mixed with l@shings of Clint E@stwood circa 1964, Fistful of Doll@rs er@.

Now imagine that Tsun@mi g@thering it`s force up on Tier one, which I can tell you extends upwards of 22,000 feet, and is a place where ordin@ry humans would require Oxygen m@sks, so as I say imagine it g@thering it`s force, growing and growing, lightening flicker!ng, the smell of ozone in the air and word-pairings, and syll@bals clash together.
Then there is a creak as the Golden doors of tier one are pulled open by Tera P@trick and Scarlett Joh@nnson wearing nothing but smiles, and a hungry look for e@ch other.

You have a moments silence where you have the ins@ne hope that nothing will happen.

But then, suddenly there it is.

A million cubic tons of Vulture E@stwood Dragonborn fury pouring from the sky, slicing it`s way towards your very soul.

At the tip of this Tsnum@i you`ll see a sneer!ng pair of lips form, which as they grow closer draw back to reveal a set of kn@shers intent on dam@ge.

Realising your error you back away, head twisting, seek!ng an esc@pe.

You tr!p and fall onto your back and cover your eyes.

But this can do nothing to stop the be@st you have unleashed from settling it`s jaws upon your most pr!zed possess!ons and r!pping them out root and stem with a crunching twist.

That my friend is Gonzo.

If you feel this is an ex@ggeration then b@re this in mind. Do you know Keyzer Soze? Of course you do, everyone has heard of him. What most people do not know however is that Keyzer once borrowed Gonzo’s Ferr@ri 250 GT, and returned it without filling the t@nk.

This is why Gonzo now possesses a mousem@t made from Keyzers scr-0-tum.

Posted March 28, 2014 10:12 pm 


Gonzo the Dragonborn

I couldn’t give a sht how many PPV sales Manny or Floyd does. And I couldn’t give a crap about what the earn or how popular they are. That’s the domain of you double digit IQ Flomo fcks. I just find it hysterical how you cats are so consumed by all that crap and how you act like it’s so impressive that an American fighter is outdoing a foreigner for PPV buys in his own country. Now go and slurp the AIDS out of your mother’s STD infested hell hole of a derelict bat cave of a cnut before I whip my 12” white mamba out and beast-fck your ass into beef stew.

Posted March 28, 2014 10:10 pm 


Gonzo the Dragonborn

Dragon sht??!! You don’t even realize who I am. ROFL. This is like Floyd rolling up on his Jack Jones to Ray Robinson, Harry Greb, Henry Armstrong, Willie Pep, Joe Louis, Roberto Duran, and Marvin Hagler at the same time and mean mugging them and getting all in their faces. ROFL.

I’ll have your pants round your ankles and your d!ck between my teeth faster than a turd hitting the bottom of the can. And I gnaw that little baby clean off the root like a coked-up beaver that’s just snorted an eight ball of the purest cocaine money can buy in one hit. Best climb back into you playpen before you get yourself hurt little pup. Unless that is you actually enjoy the sensation of p!ssing gallons of your own blood out of a vagina like hole where your genitalia used to reside?

Posted March 28, 2014 10:03 pm 


poor pacturds

Manny is a juiced up bum. Hec dog is a retard who blocks posts up with garbage that no one responds too. Manny hasn’t done anything since 09. Now his ppv sales suck and he is irrelevant the fool is 70 million in back taxes he has no big fights in his future because Arum has no big name opponents so in the end what does he have?

Posted March 28, 2014 9:43 pm 


The Prince

Only the Floyd hating posters listen to anything Arum says.

Posted March 28, 2014 9:42 pm 


poor pacturds

Dragon sht no one is disputing Manny and his place in the world. But again he hasn’t don’t crap since 09.The fact that he wants a basketball team means nothing who cares this is boxing biiootch Manny got ktfo by Marquez and didn’t dominate Bradley and Rios was garbage and he still couldn’t drop him. Manny is a wash who only put on a sting of wins against dehydrated fighters or Floyds left overs. Cotto was the last good fighter he beat and that was in 09. Since then what has he done? Bradley is no push over he is one tough SOB. Manny hands are full and Floyd should be his least concern. He also has Marquez 5 and there is no way in hell he survives both fights without a L…

Posted March 28, 2014 9:35 pm 


Hecdog

All of Manny Pacquiao’s fights are important. Boxing will have difficulty carrying on when Manny retires. He’s an Icon that has changed the standard of what people call a great fighter. His dynamic fighting style combined with his polite and innocent personality makes him a magnetic attraction to people. The upcoming fight against Timothy Bradley is one of redemption and validation for the only 8 division boxing champion in history, Manny Pacquiao. The championship belt was a robbery by a bunch of blind and inept judges. I could never imagine how he felt like, but I did have an incident the other day albeit not on the same level, but I felt robbed also. I was driving through a Jack in The Box fast food place, and I placed my order then drove up to the cashier, grabbed my bag and drove home. When I opened up my bag at home, I realized that they did not have three cheese burgers I paid for, only two. I felt robbed and highly upset. Manny and I both were robbed and upset. Manny is coming back to get his stolen championship belt, and I returned and demanded and got my cheese burger. Manny will feel vindicated when he makes things right and takes back his stolen belt. Mr. Arum in my opinion also has a question mark about Manny Pacquiao. I do wish Manny had gone on his own instead of sign with Arum again, but Manny is as loyal a person as they come. He is a decent, humble loyal to a fault angel of life. A true quality to admire. I truly believe and know without a doubt that Manny Pacquiao will put on a great performance against Bradley. Timothy has all kinds of excuses for the first fight. He actually had be laughing when I read that he blamed his lack of effort on him not wearing socks. Remember when he went out of the ring limping. The he changed to crutches. Then he went to a wheel chair. Then he went to an electric wheel chair. Then he went to an ambulance. The he finished with a life flight helicopter. And all this because he didn’t wear socks. There will be no excuses after this fight. The city of Los Angeles has begun to have withdrawals as Manny Pacquiao nears the end of his training camp at the famous Wild Card gym. Since Manny’s arrival in LA, the city has come alive. Manny’s legendary runs at Griffith Park have now led some Angelinos to rename the park, yes, you guessed it. Pacquiao Park. The city may also be contemplating casting all of Manny’s foot steps during his run in order to show the city’s appreciation for him. This has never been done before for anyone. Manny will be going from the City of Angels to Sin City, which is quite ironic. Manny brings good to a city that is full of evil. Fans are arriving early just to catch a glimpse of the living legend. I have purchased my tickets and am getting ready to attend a victory party three days before the actual fight. The get together will offer food and drinks and entertainment. My neighbors have a great time and wish me well on my flight. I haven’t said anything to anyone yet, but we will have live Karaoke, and I plan to sing a few songs to honor Manny Pacquiao. Imagine and Sometimes when we touch are my favorites and should bring my neighbors to their feet. Manny is such an inspiration to me, and I am fortunate to see this man fight live. I will be dressed in full Manny Pacquiao attire. A red and White sweat suite with Manny’s Biggest Fan-hecdog” embroidered. Lets all get ready for Manny’s Manny’s triumphant return to the ring. Trust me, Manny will shine all night long. Manny is the best.

Posted March 28, 2014 9:28 pm 


Gonzo the Dragonborn

The fact that Manny can even compete with that ugly horse-toothed reptile Floyd for PPV buys in the US is incredible. Apart from him being the foreigner and it being Floyd’s country, don’t forget that most people tune into Floyd’s fights because they want to see him lose. And don’t be forgetting that Floyd has to fight on Mexican holidays and stack his undercards with popular Latin fighters to pump up the numbers too. Or that he has to to resort to cheap gimmicks like enrolling the patronage of wildly popular butt-plug wearing celebrity gimps like Bieber to boost his own celebrity profile. ROFL.

Posted March 28, 2014 9:18 pm 


Gonzo the Dragonborn

5 Things You Didn’t Know: Manny Pacquiao

Just because Manny Pacquiao isn’t a household name in Britain, that doesn’t mean that he’s not popular elsewhere. As a matter of fact, Manny Pacquiao is one of the most popular people in the world. Following his second round destruction of Ricky Hatton last Saturday Manny Pacquiao has become the first boxer ever to win a lineal title in four lineal divisions.
He’s virtually a god in the Philippines, as he appears everywhere in Filipino pop culture, from the music scene to TV and movies. Manny Pacquiao is also known well in Mexico, as he’s left a graveyard of Mexican boxing greats in his trail — enough to earn him the nickname “The Mexicutioner.”

As he continues to destroy everything in his path, it is beginning to look like Manny Pacquiao may not only be one of the best of his generation; he may in fact be one of the best of all time.

Here is a list of five things you didn’t know about Manny Pacquiao:
5- Manny Pacquiao owns a basketball team
While Manny Pacquiao’s job is as a professional boxer, one of his favourite pastimes is to play basketball. As a matter of fact, his original dream was to be a professional basketball player.
Instead, the 5′ 6.5″ Manny Pacquiao settled for a legendary boxing career and now owns a basketball team on the side.

Pacquiao is the owner of the PacMan Gensan team of the Mindanao Visayas Basketball Association, which is based out of his hometown in General Santos City. They are now known as the MP Warriors of Gensan.

They haven’t been too shabby either, winning a championship in 2005 and finishing as runners-up in 2006. Manny Pacquiao is quiet and humble, and just lets the right people run his team.

4- Manny Pacquiao is the only Filipino in Time 100
The Time 100 is an annual list of the most influential people in the world compiled by Time magazine. In 2009, Manny Pacquiao made the list.
To be included on this sort of list is quite the honour, no doubt, as only a handful of the world’s best thinkers, leaders and innovators make the cut.

The only Filipino to make the list in 2009, Manny Pacquiao is ranked No. 22 according to voting, which has him ahead of a few people you might know, such as Barack Obama, Oprah Winfrey and the Dalai Lama.

More impressive might be the fact that he is one of the few athletes on the list, along with Kobe Bryant and Alex Rodriguez.

3- Manny Pacquiao owns a lottery outlet
Manny Pacquiao owns a lottery outlet for the Philippine Charity Sweepstakes Office, but this isn’t just a regular lottery outlet. The Philippine Charity Sweepstakes Office is actually the charity arm of the government, which means that a lot of money that is made from the lottery is put to good use.
The money is often reinvested back into public services, such as health care and welfare, and it wouldn’t be as successful without Manny Pacquiao’s name attached to it.

This is just one of the many ways he gives back to his country via charity, as he has also established the Official Manny Pacquiao Foundation to support underprivileged individuals in the Philippines.

2- When Manny Pacquiao fights, the crime rate goes down
Wondering how popular Manny Pacquiao is? When he fights, the entire country watches — literally.
The police in Manila say that crimes drop drastically during Manny Pacquiao’s fights, which means that even criminals stop their dirty work to watch.

There are also regular squabbles between communist insurgents and Muslim secessionists, but even they put their battles on ice to watch Pacquiao fight.

In simpler terms, nearly the entire country of roughly 90.5 million stops to watch the Pac-Man fight, which is simply astounding.

1- Manny Pacquiao earned less than $1 for his first fight
We’ve all heard stories about someone who goes from rags to riches, but Manny Pacquiao’s version is extreme.
Pacquiao’s family has spent a lot of time in poverty, and he did what he could to help early on in his life. Before he hit his teens, Pacquiao was selling doughnuts in the streets and he had his first fight when he was 12. After winning, Manny Pacquiao earned less than $1, which he immediately gave to his mother to buy rice.

Following Manny Pacquia’s bout with Ricky Hatton, he is now the highest-paid prizefighter in the sport of boxing and he’s going to earn at least $12 million in guaranteed money. That could escalate even more based on the pay-per-view rake.

Now that’s a rags-to-riches story

Posted March 28, 2014 9:10 pm 


Sunny

By the way, Shane Mosley and Oscar De La Hoya went out of their way to fight fighters in their prime and push their limit.

Posted March 28, 2014 8:10 pm 


Anonymous

Nobody watched Pac v Rios especially not other asians like the Chinese. Make up more facts you fourth world asians.

Posted March 28, 2014 7:48 pm 


Anonymous

Listen to these nuttards, “win or lose you bring us joy”. Ghey ass fans. It’s boxing idiots.

Posted March 28, 2014 7:46 pm 


Popkins

After Pacman beat Morales the idea of him challenging much bigger fighters like Hatton, Cotto, and Margarito seemed utterly ridiculous. Pac was recognised as a good fighter but surely it wouldn’t be a fair fight due to the advantages in size that these guys would have right?….Yet because Manny trashed them people seem to forget that he really only has the frame of a LIGHTWEIGHT!!!…..Mayweather is a true WELTERWEIGHT and considered the P4P No.1. The fact that for several years people have thought that Pacquiao (despite being two weight divisions smaller) is Floyd’s biggest challenge speaks volumes about how great Manny Pacquiao is.

Posted March 28, 2014 7:16 pm 


Havoc

Win or lose Manny you made as proud! You give so much joy and happiness with your all out exciting fights to the world of boxing! Go on win or lose you will be love forever!

Posted March 28, 2014 7:10 pm 


soda pop

Hecdog is a nut.

Posted March 28, 2014 7:06 pm 


Ray Ray

Shut up Bob….an old Oscar @ a weight he hadn’t been @ 4 how long? Oscar is the Golden boy 4 a reason? I’d b surprised if the PPV numbers r anywhere near the Oscar fight? The fans love Oscar. Now Manny is the elder fighter here and Bradley is diff than Oscar. The 2 fights r nothing alike.

Posted March 28, 2014 7:01 pm 


Popkins

A kid who dragged himself off the streets of the Philippines is the second biggest boxing star in America. More people watched Pacman v Rios worldwide (via China and Philippines alone probably, although Pac is big amongst south American fans and Europe too) than Mayweather v Alvarez. And Manny was coming off a KO loss and facing a B class opponent in Brandon too.

Posted March 28, 2014 6:58 pm 


Havoc

It’s a common knowledge that a great fighter who doesn’t cherry pick his opponents and fight the best opposition to one day lose! Looking back from all Manny’s fight he definitely beat all odds to stardom. A simple guy from the Philippines who made it big in the USA , he is an inspirational of true hardwork, dedication and a real role model not only in sports but in real life. So, from now on Manny you should cherry pick your opponents to make you look good and last for a long time like BHop. Superstar status can make you millions and millions just use your head and follow what Floyd is doing. Duck possible hard fights and go for the easy money.

Posted March 28, 2014 6:58 pm 


Another Sad day for Hagler.aka the man who got retired by a welterweight

Hecdog… Pacroides last did under 500k.. Some super star…

How many times has pacroide done 2 million buys???! Zero…

Posted March 28, 2014 6:35 pm 


HHLondon

145lb ODLH … LMAO!

Posted March 28, 2014 6:12 pm 


Popkins

Awesome….Boxnation have Pac v Bradley AND Mayweather v Maidana :)

Posted March 28, 2014 6:05 pm 


amor

Nice peyote! Not a lot of objective fans! Mostly nuthuggers and haters from both sides! Lol!

Posted March 28, 2014 5:58 pm 


Peyote

I wonder how many people that post on message boards are actually boxing fans. Fans that watch fights routinely no matter the era, appreciate the fighters regardless of race/color, and aren’t dragged into the Hulk Hogan thinking that Boxing is all rigged.

It’s like a conversation with 12 year olds

Tell you what, I’m going to “Suggest” you take a hit of me, Peyote, and open up your mind. I warn you, it’s not for everyone so if you don’t have an open mind, and you are bias, be very cautious. And maybe even wait until you can relax and open your mind to allow the World to open up.

Posted March 28, 2014 5:33 pm 


Hecdog

All of Manny Pacquiao’s fights are important. Boxing will have difficulty carrying on when Manny retires. He’s an Icon that has changed the standard of what people call a great fighter. His dynamic fighting style combined with his polite and innocent personality makes him a magnetic attraction to people. The upcoming fight against Timothy Bradley is one of redemption and validation for the only 8 division boxing champion in history, Manny Pacquiao. The championship belt was a robbery by a bunch of blind and inept judges. I could never imagine how he felt like, but I did have an incident the other day albeit not on the same level, but I felt robbed also. I was driving through a Jack in The Box fast food place, and I placed my order then drove up to the cashier, grabbed my bag and drove home. When I opened up my bag at home, I realized that they did not have three cheese burgers I paid for, only two. I felt robbed and highly upset. Manny and I both were robbed and upset. Manny is coming back to get his stolen championship belt, and I returned and demanded and got my cheese burger. Manny will feel vindicated when he makes things right and takes back his stolen belt. Mr. Arum in my opinion also has a question mark about Manny Pacquiao. I do wish Manny had gone on his own instead of sign with Arum again, but Manny is as loyal a person as they come. He is a decent, humble loyal to a fault angel of life. A true quality to admire. I truly believe and know without a doubt that Manny Pacquiao will put on a great performance against Bradley. Timothy has all kinds of excuses for the first fight. He actually had be laughing when I read that he blamed his lack of effort on him not wearing socks. Remember when he went out of the ring limping. The he changed to crutches. Then he went to a wheel chair. Then he went to an electric wheel chair. Then he went to an ambulance. The he finished with a life flight helicopter. And all this because he didn’t wear socks. There will be no excuses after this fight. The city of Los Angeles has begun to have withdrawals as Manny Pacquiao nears the end of his training camp at the famous Wild Card gym. Since Manny’s arrival in LA, the city has come alive. Manny’s legendary runs at Griffith Park have now led some Angelinos to rename the park, yes, you guessed it. Pacquiao Park. The city may also be contemplating casting all of Manny’s foot steps during his run in order to show the city’s appreciation for him. This has never been done before for anyone. Manny will be going from the City of Angels to Sin City, which is quite ironic. Manny brings good to a city that is full of evil. Fans are arriving early just to catch a glimpse of the living legend. I have purchased my tickets and am getting ready to attend a victory party three days before the actual fight. The get together will offer food and drinks and entertainment. My neighbors have a great time and wish me well on my flight. I haven’t said anything to anyone yet, but we will have live Karaoke, and I plan to sing a few songs to honor Manny Pacquiao. Imagine and Sometimes when we touch are my favorites and should bring my neighbors to their feet. Manny is such an inspiration to me, and I am fortunate to see this man fight live. I will be dressed in full Manny Pacquiao attire. A red and White sweat suite with Manny’s Biggest Fan-hecdog” embroidered. Lets all get ready for Manny’s Manny’s triumphant return to the ring. Trust me, Manny will shine all night long. Manny is the best.

Posted March 28, 2014 5:33 pm 


Anonymous

AAAAA

DUCKY FLOYD CHICKEN.

THE GOVERNMENTS NEEDS TO REFORM BOXING TO RESTRICT DODGING AND DUCKING.
Posted March 28, 2014 4:57 pm

Let’s start with boxers ducking drug testing

Posted March 28, 2014 5:28 pm 


Mitt Romney

Bill I wouldn’t make any postfight dinner plans with Pacquiao. He stood me up on December 8, 2012. Even after I sprang for ringside seats!!

Posted March 28, 2014 5:20 pm 


Jaguar

Delahoya vs. Pacman was a joke, clearly evident Delahoya was way over the hill, hence the retirement…

Pacman vs. Bradley is a massive fight in terms of legacy, 50-50 fight, but I think Bradley scrapes through (convincingly…) due to age, workrate and taking the sports much more serious, i.e. serious work ethic.

Best of luck to both.

Posted March 28, 2014 5:16 pm 


Anonymous

“Bob, I tried my best and I lost again to the guy,” says Bradley.

Posted March 28, 2014 5:05 pm 


President Clinton

Mr. president Obama and I are planning to have a dinner with Mr. Congressman Pacquiao after he defeats Tim Bradley.

Posted March 28, 2014 5:04 pm 


President Clinton

Manny Pacquiao-Bradley II will be a mega and entertaining fight. The whole White House will be watching!!!

You watch it, America!!!

Posted March 28, 2014 5:01 pm 


AAAAA

DUCKY FLOYD CHICKEN.

THE GOVERNMENTS NEEDS TO REFORM BOXING TO RESTRICT DODGING AND DUCKING.

Posted March 28, 2014 4:57 pm 


TARK

The Bradley fight is a lot more significant than the De La Hoya fight… Oscar didn’t have the chance of a snowflake in Hell — Bradley has a chance to upset the applecart and make Floyd do backflips.

Posted March 28, 2014 4:56 pm 


AAAAA

FLOYD DUCKY CHICKEN WILL NEVER HAVE THE CONFIDENCE TO FIGHT PACQUIAO.

Posted March 28, 2014 4:54 pm 


The Speed of Light

Of course, any fight is important to PAC, but this fight is a PERSONAL REVENGE and REDEMPTION of the unfair decision in 2012. I hope CJ Ross and Duane Ford watch this fight so they will see their black son get beat up.

Posted March 28, 2014 4:52 pm 


Anonymous

PACS GOT FLOYDS NUMBER.THATS SIMPLY WHY FLOYD WONT FIGHT.CHICKEN WORSHIPPERS ARE IN HUGE NUMBERS IN THE US

Posted March 28, 2014 4:49 pm 


Fu Manchu

Floyd*, stop ducking Manny!

Posted March 28, 2014 4:48 pm 


Fu Manchu

1st fight should have been 8 rounds to 4 Manny, 116-112. This time, hopefully he’ll even get the decision!!

Posted March 28, 2014 4:47 pm 


The Speed of Light

PAC is 100% focused in boxing now , and I am sure he will convincingly beat Bradley up by throwing 100 combinations to KNOCK Bradley OUT. We will see The DRAGON(PAC) blow FIRE at Bradley. Can’t wait!!!

Posted March 28, 2014 4:46 pm 


Fu Manchu

Manny gonna give Tim Bradley an Asian Sensation ONE helluva Chinaman A$$- Whupping!!

Posted March 28, 2014 4:44 pm 


Hawaii 10

I just want to laugh out LOUD!!!!!

When the EAGLE(PACQUIAO) flies near the ground, the CHICKEN(MAYWEATHER) runs as fast as he could into the shed for protection. LMAO.

Posted March 28, 2014 4:39 pm 


Hawaii 10

After April 12th, Bradley’s wife won’t have to be concerned of Bradley beating her because Bradley will be a baby and she will be his babysitter for life.

Oh, and Bradley swang a punch at his wife two years ago, but the punch had no power so it just woke her up. “Tim, did you wake me up to babysit the kid?” asked Bradley’s wife.

Posted March 28, 2014 4:37 pm 


Anonymous

Dont make us laugh Arum.

Posted March 28, 2014 4:20 pm 


soda pop

Forget paqiou vs mayweather…..i want to see malianaggi vs spadafora in the very first 20 round fight, i wonder if this would lead to a k.o.

Posted March 28, 2014 4:09 pm 


soda pop

showtime should have a mini special like hbo…….. paulies greatest hits.

Posted March 28, 2014 4:05 pm 


soda pop

i would love to see the day malianaggi gets a knock out.it must be tuff fighting with no pop to back someone off you, mad credit to paulie.i know this was off topic but i was thinking about this just now, dude goes into everyfight out gunned, thats a warrior.

Posted March 28, 2014 3:48 pm 


te tumbo

this matchup is significant in a contemporary sense. it will clarify the welter rankings and the loser will be disqualified from the “Money” sweepstakes for good. it’s also unfinished and mandatory business for Pacquiao*. win or lose, anything less than a demonstration of breakaway talent from Manny* or another controversial nod in his favor will be panned and cited as further evidence that Pacquiao* was never that good to begin with. accordingly, what qualifies him as a mandatory challenger to Mayweather?

Posted March 28, 2014 3:46 pm 


largo

Check that left eye…i wonder if Pac has been getting dropped during sparring; Tim by stoppage.

Posted March 28, 2014 3:19 pm 


poor pacturds

Manny didn’t clearly win anything in the first fight with Bradley it could have went either way he never dominated Tim same with Marquez until get got KTFO, Manny can only beat weight drained fighters his bouts are hand picked. Guys at his right weight he cant beat or its so close that he needs to keep getting these rematches. And Arum is talking out his ass because he needs to hype this joke of a fight up thats all but the public is not interested in his juiced up puppet…

Posted March 28, 2014 3:06 pm 


Fight Aficionado

Wrong Arum. Pacquiao vs Oscar signaled the end of an era. This fight signals nothing since Pac clearly won the first fight and will win again.

Posted March 28, 2014 2:51 pm 


The Black Pariah

How the hell do you dumb shines think Bradley will walk all over Pac when Pac clearly kicked the pis s out of the little as s hole

Posted March 28, 2014 2:37 pm 


The Black Pariah

He’s nuts.

Posted March 28, 2014 2:35 pm 


superchile

so arum means paquiao is passing the torch to bradley

Posted March 28, 2014 2:30 pm 


Mike Tyson

My point point oscar was not fast. He is slower that PAC. And that play as reason, he doing a little cheat. But as you get to the top fighter Floyd and PAC you don’t look that good or exposed.

Posted March 28, 2014 2:28 pm 


Anonymous

Mike Tyson, go back to the gossip columns with your baloney and whilst your at it Iron Mike wants his name back. Ya dig?

Posted March 28, 2014 2:27 pm 


Anonymous

Mike Tyson, why are you telling us stuff we already know?
ODLH and Miguel Cotto are converted southpaws. So, what?
Did you know Cotto had steel implants put in his arm due to a motorbike accident around the time he turned pro? See, anyone can come up with these little tid bits!

Posted March 28, 2014 2:25 pm 


Anonymous

Mike Tyson, are you a Filipino? Where are you from?

Posted March 28, 2014 2:22 pm 


Popkins

Manny’s destruction of De La Hoya reminds me of Marciano crushing Louis. These great fighters were clearly a poor version of the fighters they once were, but still, nobody ever beat them as emphatically as Pacman and Rocky did.

Posted March 28, 2014 2:18 pm 


Tomato Can

Arum says??? say it ain’t so.

Posted March 28, 2014 2:16 pm 


Mike Tyson

Not many know this but, remember how some fighter are a box that fake a left hand fighter stance?
That they use they faster and stronger right hand as a jabbing and hooking that closer.

Well Oscar does the opposite he a left hander that fake a right hander stance, his left strong and faster left is closer. That is why he has a unreal strong left hand he can double up the jab and hook and scord a ko anytime his leverage is at the front closer not the far in the back.
It’s a old boxer trick I use to use in sparing fast boxer to be in the game.

Posted March 28, 2014 2:07 pm 


Mike Tyson

You can’t have it both way, jr Chavez, Martinez, last fight? Lot of fighter rehydrate back to there own weight. And they say this is unfair a advantage, Oscar was back at his weight, After weight in you have about 28 hour to eat to gain back your weight, I can eat 2 lb at a sitting easily, we’re talking afternoon meal, dinner, late snack, wake up and eat if you want, breakfast, lunch, after noon snack, dinner, fight time, you not counting drinking weight.

Oscar simply count not hit manny, to prove it watch this fight with Bradley , as fast as Bradley PAC will out punch Bradley 4-1 he a better boxer.

Posted March 28, 2014 1:55 pm 


srminimo

Mike Tyson- Either he can’t face the facts, or he has actually convinced himself that was the case. Tim is very brave a game and the fact he wants to fight Manny again says as much. But he also knows Manny beat him the first time around, so he needs to rationalize that somehow in a way where he can see a different outcome this time. .You know, he also said after the first fight Pac wasn’t anything special and had no power, but when they asked him if he had any advise for Bam Bam Ríos when he was going to fight Pac he admitted Manny’s herky jerky movement and speed had put him so on edge he felt tired after 4 rounds and he got hit a couple of times where he felt it cursing through him. And the fact that he needed to look at the tape to see if he had won the fight tells you everything you need to know about that.

Posted March 28, 2014 1:35 pm 


Livershot

I disagree with the article. De La Hoya was a house hold name and at the time the face of boxing on the backside of his career and was probably abusing drugs at the time. Pacquiao was already a name and was adding to his resume of accomplishments. Bradley is known for winning a title by an unpopular decision that most fight fans saw as a win for Pacquiao. Bradley through no fault of his own just has never captured the hearts and minds of boxing fans. His fights with Provo and Marquez have not been able to clear him from the shadow of doubt that lingers over his win over Pacquiao. This is Bradley’s chance to prove that he really is the Champion and that decision was not a gift. No one ever calls him out because he is not revered as a real champion and he doesn’t bring money to the table. You say Bradley and people say “Who?” You say Pacquiao, Mayweather people know them.

Posted March 28, 2014 1:29 pm 


Titopa

EMAN Sr. – LOL! So true. De La Hoya looked like a cadaver.

Posted March 28, 2014 1:26 pm 


Mike Tyson

Bradley said his sock was the reason for broking both ankles, said he slip inside his shoe. The fight with prov mush have mess up his mind badly. If you told your corner anyone would have let you borrow stocks, how hard is sock to find?

Pluses he said the mat were too soft, but Bradley you fough 4 month and won tko at MGM it’s the same mat, Bradley can’t face reality.
He going to be surprise PAC ready to fight not as last time he was in a basket ball mood and that was what he wanted to play. Badley get a bad beat down this time. He can lobbing punches take the long route. Pluss boxing PAC back and watch his old burst of rhythm return.

Posted March 28, 2014 1:09 pm 


Sharp Jab

Bradley gonna tap dat a$$.

Posted March 28, 2014 12:54 pm 


EMAN Sr.

The significance of Pac-Dela Hoya was the evidence the boxing folks presented to the fans — that promoters and boxers alike would go to silly extent if the money is right, and die-hard casual fans would bite the hype. Dela Hoya almost killed himself dehydrating. Team Pac relished the fact that they were fighting a zombie. The network was just ecstatic money poured in. What was it to the boxing fans? Nothing but a novelty. Any boxer at Pac’s weight class could have done the same thing to Dela Hoya in that condition of his health. Heck, Valero was fired because he gave Oscar a blackeye in sparring.

Posted March 28, 2014 12:51 pm 



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