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TARK

That’s total bull…

Pacquiao would look at Hearns’ fights, see how wide open he was for right hands, and see lunch…

How can a guy as slow as Iran Barkley, who was easily beaten by Nunn, Kalambay, Benn, and Toney, catch anyone who can defend himself??? The answer is this: Tommy COULDN’T defend well.

Pac can get careless too — but he usually defends himself well when fighting a big puncher. He doesn’t throw or get hit with stupid stuff, generally speaking … Hearns did.

Posted April 5, 2014 2:18 am 


Hidalg0

I am talking about the prime welterweight Tommy Hearns that was stopped by prime welterweight Sugar Ray Leonard back in 1981. It was many years later (16 to be exact) that Leonard fought Camacho and as a middleweight, not a lightweight. Leonard fought Duran and lost to him in a very close fight approximately one year before Leonard stopped Hearns in September 1981. Who had beaten Hearns before Leonard? Nobody.

This is the version of Tommy Hearns I’m talking about–one of the most dangerous and feared welterweights on the planet. Even after losing to Leonard, Tommy went on to win 8 more fights, four by KO, before facing and losing to Marvin Hagler in 1985.

Still Tark, like I said before, due to Hearns’ height and reach advantages, my money says Arum would never let Pac fight him. Neither would Roach. Manny is just too small. Manny is 5’6. Leonard is 5’10. Even Leonard has 7 inches more reach than Pacquiao. The fight would have been seen as too risky for Manny Pacquiao–especially while Hearns was undefeated.

Posted April 4, 2014 10:51 pm 


TARK

Pacquiao is not a 154-pounder and never will be… 145 is his limit—so he’s in his final division at 147. He achieved 150 for Cheato by stuffing himself with 5 meals a day.

But a fight vs a WW Hearns, who was as skinny (145) as can be when he showed up for Leonard, would be problematic for Hearns… He would probably run out of gas and get stopped, much like Ray Leonard did to him.

Leonard couldn’t hurt Duran but stopped Tommy. If Leonard—who was beaten by lightweights Hector Camacho and Roberto Duran—could get to China-chinned Hearns, Pacquiao certainly could do the same.

Tommy was wide open… Hagler hit Hearns with everything he threw, and and Barkley was able to knock Tommy down 3 times—in Barkley’s only 2 victories over an opponent of high caliber—with his slow swings … that chin was vulnerable.

I said something nice about Hearns. He was high caliber.

Posted April 3, 2014 4:44 pm 


Anonymous

hidalg0

TARK has a hatred for Hearns and will not entertain the likely scenario of Hearns replicating his KOs over Cuevas, Duran and Shuler if he ever stepped into the ring with Pacquiao.
TARK is a hater extraordinaire. It would choke him to say anything nice about Tommy Hearns, SRR or Marvelous Marvin Hagler!

Posted April 3, 2014 5:39 am 


Hidalg0

As to the idea of a Hearns/Pacquiao bout, I don’t think Pac would have half a chance of getting past Tommy’s jab. Regardless, if Tommy were in his prime fighting today, I’ll bet money that Arum and Roach would never want that fight made. Tommy is what, seven inches taller than Pac and possesses 11 inches more reach than Manny? Tommy would pick him to pieces.

Posted April 2, 2014 7:50 pm 


Hidalg0

“Those with short memories or those that were not on board the Pacquiao express back in 2003-2004 probably don’t recall…”

Same question I asked you on another thread, birdhead:

What’s your point and why are you bringing this up now?

Posted April 2, 2014 7:45 pm 


TARK

@ Hidalg0…,

You’re right.. Robinson was a great fighter.. I’m just pointing out that the man got beaten by less than stellar opposition.. and he never wanted a rematch with Jones.

Robinson also refused to fight ATG boxer-punchers Charley Burley and Archie Moore. Actually a clever decision because he probably would have gotten his ass kicked royally.

Posted April 2, 2014 5:37 pm 


TARK

Anonymous.., You’re a dingy old fart with an IQ of 67.

I’ve frequently lauded many fighters who fought before 1995… Jack Johnson… Gene Tunney… Joe Louis… Willie Pep… Eder Jofre… Salvador Sanchez… and many others. Obvious many of the greatest boxers in the history of the game fought before 1995 … Boxing has a storied history unmatched by any other sport.

I have no agenda against ANY fighter. I’m speaking the truth… Michael Nunn… Nigel Benn… Sumbu Kalambay… and James Toney, ALL GREAT FIGHTERS defeated Iran Barkley easily.

Hearns refused to fight any of those Barkley conquerors — but Tommy DID fight Barkley TWICE… and the rest IS history.

Knocked down 3 times… knocked stiff… beaten in both fights.

Posted April 2, 2014 5:28 pm 


birdhead

Funny, when a Mayweather fan says they are suspicious of Manny being on PED’s, he is bashed, called ignorant, etc. Freddie Roach says he was suspicious of what Ariza was putting in Manny’s drinks, and not a peep out of Pactards.

When a Mayweather fan says Manny is broke, once again, he is called an “ignorant Flomo”, etc. Whenn Freddie Roach says “Manny is broke as a joke, that’s why he keeps fighting” once again, not a peep out of Pactards.

Posted April 2, 2014 3:36 pm 


birdhead

Those with short memories or those that were not on board the Pacquiao express back in 2003-2004 probably don’t recall the intense discussions in the boxing world when Freddie Roach warned the world that something was amiss with the money Pacquiao was getting from then promoter Murad Muhammad.

In 2005, Pacquiao filed suit and the boxing community became fully aware that Roach was spot on in regards to Promotional and Managerial failings in the Pac-Man team. Roach was at the head of protecting his Philippine fighter, even quitting the team at one point.

Missing were the funds to pay his US taxes, diverted by less scrupulous people than the trusting Manny, though this matter was settled in court the cost may have affected Pacquiao’s bottom line, so to that point perhaps money from before that date is not all that correct when reported in the press.

…”It has taken me awhile to come to terms with the fact that I have been cheated by people whom I trusted,” stated Mr. Pacquiao regarding the lawsuit today. “I intend to see this suit to the bitter end so that I can recover every dollar that was stolen from me, as well as help protect other fighters from being taken advantage of by Mr. Muhammad. As for the immediate future, my fans can rest assured that I will be fighting soon, but not with Murad Muhammad or M&M Sports as my promoter. As of today, I have instructed my new management to begin negotiating for my next fight and fights thereafter. I will never fight again for Murad Muhammad and M&M Sports.”

Posted April 2, 2014 3:33 pm 


birdhead

Wild Card Gym is home to roid users

Posted April 2, 2014 3:16 pm 


birdhead

Roach quote…

One of the reasons I don’t work with him [Ariza] anymore is he’s a little shady,” Roach said to Radio Raheem. “He used to give Manny a drink before workouts, and I asked him what was in the drink and he would never tell me. I told him I need to know what was in the drinks because you’re giving it to my fighter.
And if something goes wrong, I’m going to get the blame. So in my opinion, he’s a little shady. So he’s in that champ [Brandon Rios] now and it doesn’t surprise me that [Rios testing positive for a banned substance] happened.”

Posted April 2, 2014 3:16 pm 


birdhead

@Hidalgo, more reliable than Manny’s own trainer being suspicious of Ariza? More reliable than Manny refusing strict testing? More reliable than Manny being the olny boxer in history to increase his punch rate after the age of 30, and guess what PED’s can do for a boxer? You are ignorant. PED usage also causes inconsistent performances, like with Vargas, Holyfield and others.

Posted April 2, 2014 3:15 pm 


birdhead

Pacquiao vs Hearns? I’ll tell you what would happen. No way on HELL would Bob Arum make that match! Manny eats more right hands than Hannibal Lecter. Hearns would put him to sleep. Furthermore, Manny’s punching power is overrated. People saw the Hatton fight and thought he was some kind of destroyer. Hatton was KTFO by Mayweather in later rounds, which is even more difficult. He also softened up Hatton for Manny, as he and Hopkins did with Oscar De la Hoya. Then manny STILL had to drain Oscar down to the lingerie model he turned out to be.

Posted April 2, 2014 3:13 pm 


Hidalg0

“Nope no fixed fights. All legit.”

Don’t bet on it. Let’s no forget about accusations of Floyd failing three A sample tests in 2012 and the rumored cover up by USADA, and the quick relaliation of the threat of lawsuits to quelch the accusations and rumors, which by the way, came from very reliable sources. More reliable than any single one that was used in an attempt to prove Pacquiao has ever done PEDs.

Then there’s the Marquez and Ortiz fights.

Posted April 2, 2014 9:44 am 


Anonymous

I forgot that TARK also carries a hard on for Adrien Broner and he expects us to value his opinions. GTFOH!

Posted April 2, 2014 9:35 am 


Anonymous

TARK lies,

“If Pacquiao and Hearns met you don’t have a clue what would happen… Tommy was almost as wide open as Kermit Cintron—that’s why the Hit Man got knocked out so much.”

Tommy Hearns boxed from 1977 until 2006, which by my reckoning is 29 years and he ammassed a fight record of 61-5-1 (48KO’s) and losing by stoppage on 4 occasions, the last time to Uriah Grant on an ankle injury in round 2 in 2000 when he was 42 years old!

Hearns lost 3 times by stoppage
1981 to SRL rnd 14 * Hearns came in well under the limit and looked emaciated.
1985 to Marvelous Marvin Hagler rnd 3 * considered to be one of the best fights ever!
1988 to Iran Barkley end 3 * Barkley was on the end of a thrashing before he landed the lucky KO punch

Hearns was stopped by TWO ATG fighters in SRL and Hagler and was unlucky to get stopped by Barkley.

In total HEARNS has been stopped 4 times in SIXTY SEVEN contests and one if them by injury when he was FORTY TWO years old!!!

TARK’S HERO Manny Pacquiao has been Knocked cold 3 times in 62 contests, the last time KO’d for several minutes by Marquez and stopped by TWO men people will scratch their heads to recognise.

Do we hear TARK call Manny china-chinned? NO.

TARK has an agenda against:

SRR
Tommy Hearns
Muhammad Ali
Terry Norris
Marvin Hagler

And many other first time ballot Hall of Famers and ATG fighters.

It’s sickening to think this old curmudgeon uses his pernicious ways to pick through their great careers and cheapen all the BLOOD, SWEAT and TEARS these guys went through to entertain us for so many years and great fights.
It’s people like TARK who should be sent out to dangerous war zones or areas where there are airborne diseases we have no cures for. He is a cancer that needs to be cut out.
What a vile and despicable, detestable creature you are TARK.
And it is you who does not have the cajones to let us know just what so-called connections you had in boxing in the 50’s, 60’s and 70’s, you old faker.

You HATE any fighter who boxed before 1995 and make it clear in here by trying to destroy their resumes and great history, yet fawn on the likes of the young men you want to get jiggy with, like Danny Garcia, Erislandy Lara, Canelo, Trout, Tyson Fury and Deontay Wilder.

Posted April 2, 2014 9:24 am 


blackbert

I hope this fight isn’t open scoring. This guy is about the bull and up to no good. Nobody really likes open scoring for obvious reasons, so why is this guy pushing so hard for it. 15 to 20 minutes of beating us over the head with that open scoring crap. Why not just eliminate the cons by eliminating the opening scoring. This guy is really shady, 20 minutes into the show and he’s still trying to push open scoring.

Posted April 2, 2014 8:47 am 


Ray Ray

Robinson is the best ever. @ his best beats the crap out of any welter/middle ever. Rays fluent punching ability, movement & defence was way b4 his time. So crisp, so good.

Posted April 2, 2014 4:35 am 


TARK

birdhead.., Iran Barkley was about as good a boxer as Cheato Margarito… Barkley was beaten by Michael Nunn… Sumbu Kalambay… Nigel Benn… James Toney… and quite a few other boys you never heard of.

I’m sure Pacquiao would have boxed Barkley’s ears off as well.. Now everybody “knew” Hearns would box Barkley to death.. That didn’t happen—Tommy got KO’d again.

If Pacquiao and Hearns met you don’t have a clue what would happen… Tommy was almost as wide open as Kermit Cintron—that’s why the Hit Man got knocked out so much.

Posted April 1, 2014 11:04 pm 


Auzbox

Your opinion seagul. Stewart knows fighters better than you so ill take his word I think.

Posted April 1, 2014 9:11 pm 


birdhead

Pacquiao apologists even think Manny would have a chance against Tommy Hearns. See: Hearns vs Cuevas for your answer. I’m not sure Manny makes it out of the ring alive against a peak Hearns. If Juan Manuel Marquez nearly decapitated Manny, Hearns would send Pacquiao to the nearest trauma center.

Posted April 1, 2014 8:49 pm 


birdhead

@Tark, you are so right about Manny Steward. RIP Manny, but he was wrong about so many fighters and big fights.

Posted April 1, 2014 8:11 pm 


Hidalg0

“Robinson is not by a million miles.. The Ralph Jones fight should have told you that… Jones lost 5 straight fights — and then beat the living sh!t out of Robinson…”

James Braddock lost 23 fights by the time he faced and beat Max Baer by UD. Baer had won 14 straight fights prior to facing Braddock against the likes of Carnera and Schmeling. Then Braddock was promptly knocked out by Joe Louis in his next fight. Just because Jones lost five straight fights doesn’t mean that he still couldn’t beat somebody. Even if it was Robinson. Nor does Robinson’s loss to Jones take away from Robinson’s greatness.

Posted April 1, 2014 7:55 pm 


TARK

BTW.., Emmanuel Steward was a great trainer.. But he wasn’t the best judge of boxing talent.

Steward.., “Kelly Pavlik will be an easy fight for Jermain Taylor. He’s very aggressive and wide open, easy to hit. Jermain will pick him apart.”

Steward.., “Glen Johnson is amateurish. This is a mismatch coming with Roy Jones. He won’t bother Roy with with all that throwing the kitchen sink at him. He’ll wear himself out and Roy will most likely stop him.”

Steward.., “Maussa is somebody we’re not overlooking. But he doesn’t have the experience and boxing skills to match up with Harris.. Vivian is going to showcase his skills against Maussa—and we’re going after Hatton, Tszyu, and the other guys in the division. Vivian has the boxing skills and intelligence to beat all of them.”

So basically it doesn’t bother me that Manny Steward thought SRR is the GOAT.. or anything else he thought..

Robinson is not by a million miles.. The Ralph Jones fight should have told you that… Jones lost 5 straight fights — and then beat the living sh!t out of Robinson… SRR took Jones for a softie and he wasn’t soft at all.

Jones had a style that was perfect for beating down runners like Ray Robinson.

Posted April 1, 2014 5:53 pm 


TARK

Anonymous.., You’re the one who’s lost credibility.. That’s why you won’t post under your own name that you’ve used for years.., Sredmond.

I’m not drooling over anyone. Iran Barkley was easily beaten by Michael Nunn, Sumbu Kalambay, Nigel Benn, and James Toney—all great fighters who Hearns refused to fight.

So he picked on the slow, dim witted, and very punchable Barkely … and got his butt beaten TWICE.

James Toney on Iran Barkley.., “He’s dumb as an ox.”

Posted April 1, 2014 5:26 pm 


Havoc

It’s a no brainier who is going to win this fight. Bradley won by a controversy so he needs another controversy to win again!

Posted April 1, 2014 5:16 pm 


birdhead

Pac Hater Killer your name confuses me. It does not seem like you hate Pac Haters so wtf.

Posted April 1, 2014 4:39 pm 


Pac Hater Killer

“Floyd Mayweather Jr., The Pound 4 Pound King.
Floyd agreed to all of Manny Pacquiao’s demands from glove size, ring size, weight limit, 50-50 purse split and even agreed to Pacquiao’s $10 million dollar fine for every pound Mayweather weighs beyond the welterweight limit. All Mayweather asked for was Olympic style drug testing and that it had to be random, Pacquiao couldn’t give Mayweather that one stipulation and the fight was called off. People wrongfully accuse Mayweather of being a diva or wanting all the favors, but he bowed down to every single one of Manny Pacquiao’s requests, but Manny couldn’t even give Floyd one. There are only two reasons why someone wouldn’t comply to the tests, one; they are guilty or have something to hide, two; they are scared.”

Posted April 1, 2014 2:14 pm 


Pac Hater Killer

By Chris Williams: Trainer Freddie Roach dumped all over Manny Pacquiao’s former strength and conditioning coach Alex Ariza in an interview with Radio Raheem this week. Roach said that Ariza would give Pacquiao drinks before workouts and he wasn’t sure what was inside the drinks. Roach said he didn’t trust Ariza at all, and he asked him about what was inside the drinks but Ariza wouldn’t tell him.
“One of the reasons I don’t work with him [Ariza] anymore is he’s a little shady,” Roach said to Radio Raheem. “He used to give Manny a drink before workouts, and I asked him what was in the drink and he would never tell me. I told him I need to know what was in the drinks because you’re giving it to my fighter.
And if something goes wrong, I’m going to get the blame. So in my opinion, he’s a little shady. So he’s in that champ [Brandon Rios] now and it doesn’t surprise me that [Rios testing positive for a banned substance] happened

Posted April 1, 2014 2:13 pm 


Pac Hater Killer

o Here’s the big difference between Mayweather fans and Pacquiao fans. Mayweather fans are BOXING fans who happen to think Floyd Mayweather is the best P4P fighter in the world, and maybe one of the all time greats. We like other fighters and might follow Andre Ward, GGG, Adonis Stevenson, and others. Pactards only started following the sport when Manny was on his bogus, steroid induced streak over previous Mayweather victims. Mayweather fans would not vote for Floyd if he ran for office. Mayweather fans would not postone their child’s surgical procedure if Floyd was fighting that night. (yes, a #$%$ Pinay did that). Crime rates do not do down just because Floyd fights. Pactards really should be ashamed of themselves. Manny will continue to fight until all his brain cells are gone because you idiots don’t have a life of your own.

Posted April 1, 2014 2:11 pm 


Havoc

Pacquiao is full of excuses himself. He whined after Erick Morales whipped his ass so badly Manny cried in his corner. He blames his knockout losses to Torrecampo and Singsurat to his “immaturity” (wtf) and he says Juan Manuel Marquez landed a lucky punch.

Posted April 1, 2014 2:09 pm 


B Red

Tark is a fookin tool

Posted April 1, 2014 1:47 pm 


Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. LionKing)

Good point! Is there a valid reason why someone in Bradley’s corner couldn’t find a pair of socks for Pete’s sake? Shoot… one of his corner-men could’ve taken off his own socks for TB to wear (in the worst case scenario).

TB is supposed to be a seasoned professional, so you’d think he would’ve thrown a pair of socks in his gym bag — just in case — in preparation for the biggest fight of his life. I’m sorry, but to me it sounds like a lame @$$ excuse. And I don’t buy it. But rolling and injuring his ankle is a completely different story.

Posted April 1, 2014 1:45 pm 


Hong Kong Phooey

Tim Bradley is a fine boxer, but he will be overwhelmed by 8 WEIGHT WORLD CHAMPION and THE FIGHTER OF THE DECADE, Manny ‘The Pacman’ Pacquiao!

Posted April 1, 2014 1:37 pm 


Mike Tyson

Wtf is esb boy cotting the cotto and Martinez fight? It’s been two weeks. Clowns.

Posted April 1, 2014 1:36 pm 


Mike Tyson

Bradley was to dumb to tell his corner, so someone could let him borrow their socks.
And Bradley brain is already slipping he fought at MGM twice fight before PAC and with PAC,
It’s the same slow mat Tim. Admit it PAC made you feel slow. Don’t be a broner.

Posted April 1, 2014 1:26 pm 


road warrior

So Pactards brag about Manny busting Bradley’s feet. Manny was unable to stop a guy with no power and who could barely move?

Posted April 1, 2014 12:33 pm 


road warrior

Pacquiao barely belongs in the top 100. Id put guys like Ike Quartey, Terry Norris, Julian Jackson, JMM and many others ahead of him. Being KTFO by Torrecampo and Singsurat and Hussein got robbed that’s inexcusable unless you are way past your prime. And dont compare hagler’s early losses.

Posted April 1, 2014 12:30 pm 


Joseph Herron

Tonight on “The Pugilist KOrner”, we’re going to be speaking with Luis Collazo and Bradley trainer Joel Diaz!!

Can’t wait!!

Posted April 1, 2014 6:42 am 


Anonymous

TARK, you worship Manny Steward (RIP) but did you know he rates SRR as the best fighter ever?
Did you know he rates Marvin Hagler as the best MW ever?
Did you know how highly he rated Muhammad Ali?

Well, check out his list below taken from Boxing Scene:
Hmm. Food for thought, methinks

Posted April 1, 2014 5:48 am 


Anonymous

Taken from Boxing Scene

Emanuel Steward’s Top-Ten Greatest Fighters Of All-Time

1: Sugar Ray Robinson – “The best welterweight ever! A Phenomenal record at a time when records were real!”

2: Muhammad Ali – “Ali fought everybody, no matter what style.”

3: Henry Armstrong – “Fought in all those divisions and was robbed in middleweight title fight when they called it a draw”

4: Willy Pep – “Just a totally amazing fighter”

5: Joe Louis – “Exemplified the world Champion”

6: Marvelous Marvin Hagler – “The best middleweight ever, no doubt!”

7: George Foreman – “So smart in his own way, and so strong.”

8: Sam Langford – “Way before his time”

9: Manny Pacquiao – “Has gone through division after division after division! Just a phenomena”

10: Roberto Duran – “The best lightweight ever!”

Thomas Hearns’ Top-Ten Greatest Fighters Of All-Time

1: Muhammad Ali

2: Joe Frazier

3: Thomas Hearns

4: Roberto Duran

5: Wilfred Benitez

6: Sugar Ray Leonard

7: Mike Tyson

8: Floyd Mayweather

9: George Foreman

10: Marvin Hagler

Posted April 1, 2014 5:31 am 


Anonymous

Taken from SecondsOutBoxingNews USA Boxing

Thomas ‘The Hitman’ Hearns: When Losing Begets Greatness

Hagler vs Hearns (the war)

By Dave McKee: Thomas Hearns is not remembered as a loser. He is remembered as a former protégé of the great Emanuel Steward and six-division world champion. The only stumbling blocks to his first championship, the WBA welterweight title, were two fights in which he condescended to go the distance rather than knock out his opponents. His three round war with Marvin Hagler is remembered as ‘the greatest three rounds in boxing history’.

Defeat set Hearns on his path to eventual greatness. And in loss he elevated the stature of two all-time great boxers. The magnitude of Hearns’ character resourcefulness as a boxer was made evident in these losses, and what was revealed leaves no room for shame. In losing Thomas Hearns rose above all but a few of his peers.

Having found his way as a teenager to Detroit’s Kronk gym, laboratory of genius boxing trainer Emanuel Steward, the tall, skinny Hearns found himself on the anvil. Steward’s gym forged champions, and this involved a lot of heat and a great deal of pounding.

Hearns’ first loss of deep significance came in a sparring match with Bernard ‘Superbad’ Mays. At the time Hearns was confident, flush with amateur success. He would eventually amass an amateur record of 155-8 and win the 1977 National Amateur Athletic Union Light Welterweight Championship and National Golden Gloves Light Welterweight Championship.

This day he was literally broken and remade.

Mays crushed Hearns’ nose. Some young men would have quit the ring. Hearns’ reacted with disgust and determination. He returned to the gym a different fighter, and the change was evident to everyone present. To this day the effects of that punch show like a badge on Hearns’ face.
From this setback in training Hearns found the strength to carry him through thirty-two professional fights. In 1981, coming into his thirty-third contest and fourth defense of his WBA welterweight title, Hearns seemed unstoppable. He had earned the nickname ‘Hitman’ by amassing a knockout percentage of 94%.

The opponent in this contest was a serious contender. Sugar Ray Leonard was an Olympic gold medal winner and the WBC welterweight champion.
Hearns and Leonard clashed in a bout for the ages. Before the opening bell tolled everyone knew what to expect: Hearns would jab and move and attempt to crush Leonard with his unbelievably powerful right hand while Leonard boxed and danced and boxed some more.

This is just how the fight began. In round two Leonard was hurt, but recovered. He caught Hearns in the sixth period, and, for the first time in his professional career, Hearns was stunned. Then, as the fight unfolded, roles reversed. Hearns was forced to box to survive and Leonard took the role of pressure fighter. For two rounds Hearns held on, then began to box and accumulate points, winning rounds. Finally, Leonard knocked Hearns out in the 14th round.

Ring Magazine named this contest the 1981 Fight of the Year. Sugar Ray Leonard was on his way to a Hall of Fame career, but a significant piece of his legend was written that night. Hearns lost a fight for the first time as a professional, but he showed courage, skill and heart. He had lost his belt, but he displayed championship quality.

From this loss Hearns moved forward, adding pounds to his tall, thin frame. He won eight fights and collected the WBC junior middleweight title. He then challenged Marvelous Marvin Hagler for the WBC, WBA and IBF middleweight titles. This fight produced as much hype as the bout with Leonard, and Hagler advertised his intentions on a cap inscribed with three letters: WAR.

War was right. From the opening bell Hagler swarmed Hearns, dropping bombs. Hearns fired his missile-like right hand and connected. When this happened his opponents generally surrendered, but he was not facing an ordinary opponent. Hagler remained standing and Hearns’ hand broke on impact.

They both continued to punch with abandon. Hearns fought bravely through the pain from his maimed hand and opened a cut in Hagler’s forehead. By the third round the cut was bleeding badly enough that referee Richard Steele considered stopping the fight. Responding to his own injury as bravely as had Hearns, Hagler increased his attack, countering a Hearns’ jab and knocking him out.

Marvin Hagler is considered one of the greatest middleweights to have strapped on gloves. The three rounds he fought with Hearns are said by many to be the greatest three rounds in boxing history, and the first round was named by Ring Magazine the greatest single round in boxing history.
Once again Hearns lost. For a second time his loss elevated an already accomplished champion to the rarest of heights, and again Hearns found no reason for shame in his loss. He lost a war, but he stood on Olympian heights to wage it.

When Hearns’ nose was broken in the Kronk gym sparring session, he was propelled to higher achievement. When faced with adversity against Sugar Ray Leonard he altered his fight plan altogether, forcing Leonard to rise with him to a challenge neither had expected. And finally, against Marvelous Marvin Hagler, Hearns’ heart and determination brought both fighters to the brink – and to greatness.

Posted April 1, 2014 5:29 am 


Anonymous

Imbecile TARK says Hearns was KO’D 3 times before he was 29. He lost to Hagler, SRL and Barkley. He lost to 2 ATG fighters and another 3 Weight World Champion and yet this imbecile TARK is drooling over Danny Garcia, Tyson Fury, Trout, Lara and Canelo. GTFOH.

Posted April 1, 2014 5:08 am 


Anonymous

TARK is a serious dummy. He is playing the same cracked record again and again regarding Tommy Hearns and his hatred for an ATG. Go on TARK and rewrite history in your own disturbed minds eye. No one is listening to you. You’ve lost all credibility!

Posted April 1, 2014 5:05 am 


Ray Ray

Crying and living in the past….move on, or 1 more lose? And all u will have is the past.

Posted April 1, 2014 4:41 am 


Ray Ray

Is that the same manny ‘ fighter of Floyds prime decade’ that got NTFO and has lost 2 from 3? Should b 3 from 4. How could a guy b named fighter of the decade when he didn’t fight 2.5 yrs? How has this worked out 4 both now?

Posted April 1, 2014 4:40 am 


TARK

Tomato Can says…, “Barlkely landed that huge punch on Hearns while he was looking at the canvas.”

NOPE!!!! Barkley was looking squarely at Hearn’s wide open jaw when he nailed him with the KO shot… In fact, in 2 fights with Hearns—Barkley floored Hearns 3 times and beat him twice… Tommy never had the tougher Barkely in trouble.

Posted April 1, 2014 2:01 am 


Manny “Fighter of Floyd’s prime decade” Pacquiao

Uh since 09 Pacs dropped Mosley and Marquez.

Posted April 1, 2014 1:36 am 


Anonymous

paturds, the typical lowlife loser gayfeather fan that lives vicariously through his scumbag hero.

Posted March 31, 2014 11:50 pm 


Auzbox

Tef your wrong again he dropped Marquez. He didn’t drop Margo cause the bloke is like a middleweight. And you gauge his power by the Marquez fights. He never really had him badly hurt till this last fight.

Posted March 31, 2014 11:49 pm 


Anonymous

pac shook and burn bradley so hard his ankles broke.

Posted March 31, 2014 11:45 pm 


Auzbox

Teflon he would have killed Marquez if Marquez never stopped him. That power would stop any one at welter. Prov doesn’t hit as hard as PAC, keep that in mind.

Posted March 31, 2014 11:29 pm 


teflon

once again Manny has the same power and Tim has already taken it. We are sick of the promises they said he would KO him the first time along with Marquez and Rios and he didn’t. So whats next talk is cheap put up or shut up no one is buying he is back until he proves it in the ring not in the media and by these ass clowns like Roach saying he is destroying sparring partners he couldn’t even drop Rios or anyone else since 09.

Posted March 31, 2014 9:45 pm 


BEARS

pac shook and burn bradley so hard his ankles broke

Posted March 31, 2014 9:26 pm 


Havoc

Bradley hurt his two feet because he can’t dance with Manny’s speed!

Posted March 31, 2014 8:51 pm 


BEARS

provod vs bradley should have been stopped round one when bradley got up too fast from a knock down then did a reverse face plant dropping again. fights are stopped when fighters do that.

Posted March 31, 2014 8:43 pm 


Havoc

If Manny loses i kill myself lol

Posted March 31, 2014 8:38 pm 


CS

Bradley had two jacked up feet. Whether it was his shoes, socks, or not being “set” when Manny hit him, Bradley showed up to the press conference in a wheelchair, and Manny STILL did not stop him!

Posted March 31, 2014 8:37 pm 


Havoc

I am in love with Manny and want to marry him. I hope that black man with the big head does not hurt my sweetie pie

Posted March 31, 2014 8:36 pm 


CS

@Mansworld, indeed. Pacfans are some of the most ironically arrogant fans in the world. Manny seems to be unable to stop opponents inside the distance, he is vulnerable to right hands, and his punch output has plummeted, due to wear and tear, age and possibly not using PED’s any longer. Manny is past his prime and his fans do not seem to want to accept it. Bradley is the fighter who has improved, not Manny. Look for Bradley to outwork and possibly even stop Pacquiao through an accumulation of punches. It does not matter what Roach said. Not long ago Freddie was close to telling Manny to retire, and all of a sudden Pacquiao is supposed to turn the clock back? It does not work that way.

Posted March 31, 2014 8:34 pm 


Havoc

Bradley is tough but there is now way he can KO manny. He just don’t have power. Maybe on points Beadley has a chance but I doubt it. Bradley lose the first one and this time judges will get it right!

Posted March 31, 2014 8:33 pm 


mansworld

Bradley took Mannys power so getting Koed probably wont happen. Ruslan tagged him good and he kept coming. Manny will have his hands full and I think its mighty arrogant for them to be looking past Bradley and even talking about Marquez 5 or Floyd for that matter. Manny hast dropped anyone since 09. Another lost and he should hang them up and Bradley is one tough SOB so he is not walking all over him Bradley just whopped Marquez who KTFO of Manny so he is flying high…

Posted March 31, 2014 8:27 pm 


Hecdog

PUTANG INA MO PACQUIAO. PUTANG INA MO KANG WALA KANG GINAWA KUNDI
BABUYIN ANG BOXING NA PUTANG INA MO KA!!! NAKAKAHIYA NA ANG PINAG
GAGAGAWA NG MGA PILIPINO, PURO PANDARAYA NA TAYONG MGA PUTANG INA NATIN
TALAGA. PUTANG INANG MAGING PILIPINO AT ITONG PUTANG INANG ANIMAL NA
PINAGBUBUNYI NATIN ANG PUTANG INANG EHEMPLO NG PANDARAYA

Posted March 31, 2014 8:07 pm 


Moonshineman

If the auditing firm VisionQwest is correct in their latest press release, Manny Pacquiao has problems. VQ layed out a laundry list of financial problems. Everything from missing money, lack of financial records, under-reported PPV figures, tax problems, and relying on cash advances. Read the entire list of allegations HERE
When VisionQwest was initially brought in, they very successfully found a plethora of discrepancies with Manny’s money. In the latest VQ press release they stated that they themselves loaned money to Pacquiao and Koncz so that a house could be purchased for who? Michael Koncz? The first question that this writer has is, why would VisionQwest be loaning money to Manny Pacquiao for anything? Why would Manny need money lent to him in order to buy a house for Michael Koncz if he’s a multimillionaire?
There are several questions that have yet to be answered with this ongoing saga. Why is Manny Pacquiao having to rely on cash advances from Bob Arum? If it’s true, why would he need cash advances if he’s a multimillionaire? Why would Pacquiao fire VisionQwest and then not pay them a nickle for any of their services? This is another allegation that VisionQwest is making. They are saying that not only have they not received the money that they lent to Pacquiao so that he could buy Koncz a house, but they also have not received a penny for any of their work when they audited Manny’s accounts.
So here we go again, another questions. If Manny is a financially free multimillionaire, why has he not paid VisionQwest back any money? If all of these allegations by VisionQwest are all lies, then Manny Pacquiao should summon his attorney and file suit against them for defamation of character.
Why would Pacquiao fire VisionQwest after they completed most of their work only to hire a new company that does exactly the same kind of work? The questions just keep popping up, and it all stinks. Pacquiao is behaving like a man that has boxed himself into some sort of corner with little options to get out of it.
If it’s true that the IRS is knocking on Manny’s door, he won’t be able to throw those combinations and hope for a knockout Vs. them. He will need to pay up or pay a price. Manny’s a nice guy and he’s done so much great things for people all over the world.

Posted March 31, 2014 8:06 pm 


Moonshineman

PutangInaMoPacquiao
TO ALL THOSE WHO ARE NOT BLIND TO SEE THAT PACQUIAO’S LEGACY IS AGAINST PAID OFF BUMS AND BADLY DAMAGED HAS BEENS, GO TO FORUMS AND POST THE REAL TRUTH WHY PACQUIAO REFUSED BLOOD TESTING AGAINST MAYWEATHER—————————————————————-as I have been personally told by Pacquiao’s personal physician, a graduate of the very respected University of Santo Tomas, the oldest university in Asia… PACQUIAO IS AND NEVER WAS ON P.E.D. That Pacquiao was sternly advised by his political party and advisers to STAY AWAY FROM MAYWEATHER BEFORE THE ELECTIONS OF MAY 2010 AND USE MAYWEATHER’S DEMAND TO BACK OUT OF THE FIGHT. Even Arum, who went here early 2010 to personally talk to Pacquiao and was telling ABS-CBN and GMA news media that Pacquiao should not dilly dally with Mayweathere and should take this opportunity as Mayweather is so slippery to deal with, but soon thereafter Bob Arum realized he was up against PACQUIAO’S PERSONAL POLITICAL ASPIRATIONS and Pacquiao is ready to quit boxing to pursue his POLITICAL CAREER. Pacquiao will NOT LOSE AGAIN as this was the second time Pacquiao ran for office as he lost the first time against a solid congressional candidate in his hometown that is why PACQUIAO CHANGED RESIDENCE AND RUN AGAINST A LESSER OPPONENT AND MAKE SURE HE DOESN’T LOSE HIS ELECTIONS (similar to how he does in boxing after Marquez). Pacquiao’s political advisers WARNED PACQUIAO THAT IF HE LOSES TO MAYWEATHER, and his political advisers are SMARTER AND MORE INTELLIGENT THAN ALL OF BOXING, as they know Mayweather can and will beat Pacquiao so IT IS A MUST TO AVOID MAYWEATHER or Pacquiao will LOSE AGAIN A SECOND TIME IN HIS CAMPAIGN FOR POLITICAL SEAT…………………. ALL OF YOU IDIOTIC IDIOTS, SPECIALLY YOU S REDMOND CAN GIVE YOUR STUPID ASSESSMENTS BUT WHAT YOU WILL NEVER ACCEPT AND WILL TRY TO AVOID IS THE TRUTH THAT I DIVULGE BECAUSE YOU KNOW, DEEP WITHIN YOU, THAT IT IS TRUE AND IT WILL SURELY HURT PACQUIAO’S FAKE MADE UP, LIP SYNCHING BRITNEY SPEARS LIKE LEGACY

Posted March 31, 2014 8:05 pm 


Moonshineman

Manny “The Pacman” Pacquiao so called Greatest, #1 P4P fighter in the world doesn’t speak up to say “LOOK! BOB! I want Mayweathet for my next fight or I fight no one else! I am tired of fighting these fixed fights for Paper Titles at catchweights against fighters coming off losses! Pacman went into Politics and from what I know of the Philippines there is a lot of curruption…so is Pacman just a fake being humble and clean of PEDs? Question! What if Manny Pacquiao said “I am willing to take the random drug test and I will fight no one until I fight Floyd Mayweather” this fight would happen. And if Mayweather backs out then he is a super PUSZZY! Hey Pactards see if you can get Pacman to say that out of his own mouth…hey I’ll accept it even in Tagalog.

Posted March 31, 2014 8:04 pm 


Moonshineman

• METRO: PACQUIAO GOES INCOGNITO IN QUEZON CITY COURT

METRO MANILA, March 15, 2006, (STAR) By Perseus Echeminada – Boxing idol Manny Pacquiao yesterday slipped into the Quezon City prosecutor’s office unnoticed by a horde of reporters who were waiting for him to appear at the court to answer a paternity suit filed by a 24-year-old woman who claimed that the boxing champ was the father of her baby boy.

Wearing big, dark glasses and oversized baseball cap, Pacquiao reportedly climbed the stairs of the Quezon City hall of justice unnoticed and went straight to the office of city assistant prosecutor Ma. Gracia Cadiz Casaclang to sign his counter affidavit.

“I was surprised to see him in my office,” Casaclang told reporters during the preliminary investigation held at noon yesterday.

Even court employees who were preparing for lunch did not notice Pacquiao.

The city prosecutor said she allowed Pacquiao to take his oath with his lawyer Jose Crisostomo but did not accept the documents Crisostomo officially submitted.

Lawyer Vic Rodriguez who accompanied his client, Joanne Rose Bacusa, and her two-year- old son said the more Pacquiao avoids confrontation with her client, the more the case will build up against him.

Bacusa for her part expressed disappointment over Pacquiao’s failure to show up at the preliminary investigation.

Earlier, Bacusa and her son went to the St. Luke’s Hospital to undergo DNA testing. However, doctors deferred the procedure pending the appearance of Pacquiao, which is a requirement for any paternity test.

The hospital visit was in response to Pacquiao’s earlier statement that he is willing to undergo DNA test to determine if he is really the father of the child.

The test did not proceed due to the hospital policy which requires both parents to be present during the blood sample gathering to preserve the integrity of the test.

“If respondent Pacquiao will honor and be faithful to his words befitting his lofty stature
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Posted March 31, 2014 8:03 pm 


pac hater killer

Moonshine Punkass lol get off Manny’s roids booty

Posted March 31, 2014 7:53 pm 


Tomato Can

It’s possible for big fights to happen between different networks, and promotional teams, but it’s hardly the norm. How often at these types of fights put together, every decade or maybe every couple of decades. Which is exactly why the Stevenson/Kovalev fight more than likely won’t happen. Heck the Mayweather/Pacquiao fight probably has a better chance of being made, and we’ve been waiting for that fight for four years now.

Posted March 31, 2014 7:45 pm 


moonshineman

pac hater killer

Pactards can’t explain the ko loss to 3K Battery
Posted March 31, 2014 4:56 pm

You are just “Silly”. Make some sense, fool.

Posted March 31, 2014 6:37 pm 


moonshineman

poor pacturds

Floyd made over 300 million since leaving top rape and Arum. No secret why Manny is broke and having to fight the same guys over and over. Floyd doesn’t need Arum or his fighters like Manny or Bradley. He will fight Maidana, Kahn and Danny Garcia and make a ton of money doing it. Nothing to avoid about a fighter who lost 2 out of his last 3 fights and needs a hand out from his IRS troubles. What people don’t understand is Arum tells Manny what to do because he is under contract he told him to walk away in 09 over the blood testing now Floyd is 300 million dollars richer so there is nothing to negotiate they have nothing to offer Floyd or bargain with, Manny on the other had has nothing no big fights in his future he has Bradley and Marquez 5 and a good chance of loosing again…
Posted March 31, 2014 5:16 pm

Great Post. Why is little floyd scared to fight Pacquiao?. little floyd pees his pants when someone mentions Pacquiao. You mayweather azz kizzers are all the same. I haven’t found one of you yet who can explain why your chicken chit boy won’t fight Pacquiao for 100 million.

Posted March 31, 2014 6:36 pm 


Havoc

Nothing to figure out with Marquez. Manny got KOed! Nothing wrong with that. Part of boxing man. You lose some you win some. In Manny’s case with Marquez 2-1-1 record fights in favor if Pacman!

Posted March 31, 2014 6:35 pm 


moonshineman

CS

Havoc Pac is broke
Posted March 31, 2014 5:57 pm

How would a DA like you know that?.

Posted March 31, 2014 6:34 pm 


moonshineman

How about the cotto fight. Pacquiao destroyed him, while mayweather got bloodied. Explain that, DA.

Posted March 31, 2014 6:33 pm 


pac hater killer

Havoc how come Manny can’t figure out Marquez after 4 fights? Took Floyd one round lol.

Posted March 31, 2014 6:20 pm 


pac hater killer

Havoc knows about Manny’s finances because they are gay lovers.

Posted March 31, 2014 6:06 pm 


CS

Havoc Pac is broke

Posted March 31, 2014 5:57 pm 


Havoc

PAC is not broke and if he owes back taxes which Arum already fixed. It doesn’t mean it’s because he fights for Arum. PAC get paid well with extra earnings on the side. What ever Pac do with his earnings has nothing to do with Arum.

Posted March 31, 2014 5:52 pm 


Havoc

Poor pacturd you: Floyd have been avoiding Pac since he plays second to Pac on the P4P list. That’s when Pacman has 3 lose. Now after a few more years has pass with 2 more lose, Floyd is still scared to face the guy who will embarrass his speed and foot work! Floyd is not going to beat Pacman! If he ain’t fighting he knows he can’t beat.

Posted March 31, 2014 5:41 pm 


Havoc

Floyd is scared of Top Rank fighters period! He deserve to fight GBP fighters and fight on Showtime! Who cares how much he makes on all of his fixed fights with GBP it might not be true and maybe all fabricated! He is a fake P4P because he cherry picks his opponents! Where do you see a GB top fighter with lots of KO in his resume known as the future of boxing named Canelo Alvarez who goes to fight Floyd in a long snoozer fest 12 rounds boring I can’t believe my eyes this two giving a combat sport boxing a non action fight!

Posted March 31, 2014 5:37 pm 


Tomato Can

Hearns was lighting Barkley up in the first fight. That is until Barlkely landed that huge punch while he was looking at the canvas.

Posted March 31, 2014 5:33 pm 


poor pacturds

Floyd made over 300 million since leaving top rape and Arum. No secret why Manny is broke and having to fight the same guys over and over. Floyd doesn’t need Arum or his fighters like Manny or Bradley. He will fight Maidana, Kahn and Danny Garcia and make a ton of money doing it. Nothing to avoid about a fighter who lost 2 out of his last 3 fights and needs a hand out from his IRS troubles. What people don’t understand is Arum tells Manny what to do because he is under contract he told him to walk away in 09 over the blood testing now Floyd is 300 million dollars richer so there is nothing to negotiate they have nothing to offer Floyd or bargain with, Manny on the other had has nothing no big fights in his future he has Bradley and Marquez 5 and a good chance of loosing again…

Posted March 31, 2014 5:16 pm 


TARK

Anonymous says.., “Tommy Hearns was a punch or two away from KO’ing Iran Barkely in their first fight.”

LMFAO!!!!!

NO he wasn’t… Iran was going to smash Hearns out whenever he caught up with him. Hearns was too China-chinned for Barkley. That was Tommy’s 3rd KO loss and Hearns was only 29.

Tommy outboxed Virgil Hill over the distance before Iran Barkley outpointed Tommy in a rematch… Roy Jones didn’t take Virgil Hill the distance — He smashed Virgil out with one blasting shot very early in their fight… Roy had a little more heft in his shot than skinny Tommy did.

Posted March 31, 2014 5:03 pm 


CS

Pac killer you are probably correct. Arum would be afraid of Manny running into a counter right by Canelo.

Posted March 31, 2014 4:59 pm 


pac hater killer

Arum would never let Punkout face Canelo and Maidana back to back.

Posted March 31, 2014 4:57 pm 


pac hater killer

Pactards can’t explain the ko loss to 3K Battery

Posted March 31, 2014 4:56 pm 


TARK

Anonymous says.., “What TARK fails to tell us is that both men scored stoppage wins over Boone in returns.”

No I didn’t… I actually said in one post that Kovalev had a tough fight with Boone but knocked him out quickly in a rematch. Andre Ward had a tough fight with Boone as well. Ward got floored and hurt. That Boone kid was dangerous.

Stevenson got KO’d.. And getting KO’d is a little different than winning a tough fight over a big hitter.. In the rematches Kovalev destroyed Boone quickly.. In a later fight Stevenson took a lot longer time to get a more beaten down Boone out of there … than Kovalev took to get a fresher Boone out.

That’s the whole picture — satisfied???

Posted March 31, 2014 4:52 pm 


pac hater killer

Venus “Major Major” Raj is an anal whore. Havoc whacks off to her.

Posted March 31, 2014 4:50 pm 


pac hater killer

Pac fights Floyd’s leftovers

Posted March 31, 2014 4:50 pm 


pac hater killer

Havoc a dumb corrupt Flip.

Posted March 31, 2014 4:49 pm 


pac hater killer

Maja Salvador is a whore.

Posted March 31, 2014 4:48 pm 


TARK

Ray Ray.., “Kovalev has holes in his game.”

No he doesn’t… He’s lost one round in his last 15 fights… He’s easily the best LHW in the world. Agnew head butted Sergei and smashed him with a low blow. Crap like that happens in this sport.

Zab Judah smashed Floyd in the balls — and then hit Floyd in the back of the head — which in Floyd’s case caused a ring riot… he’s special I guess.

Those weren’t holes in Floyd’s game… just a dirty opponent.

Posted March 31, 2014 4:37 pm 


Ghetto Thug

“Top Rank fighters will beat Floyd fair and square” Like who?? name them please

Posted March 31, 2014 4:36 pm 


PEEJ

Nope no fixed fights. All legit. He is just that good. But keep on thinking of reasons to hate Floyd.

Posted March 31, 2014 4:02 pm 


Havoc

Floyd cherry picks Canelo and Canelo agree to all Floyd’s term and that’s what you call fixed fight! Floyd ain’t fighting fighters he can’t beat in the negotiating table! Top Rank fighters will beat Floyd fair and square, except Floyd can’t get his way when it comes with Top Rank so Fliyd avoid them. The same thing with GBP. All of GBP to fighters get beat up by Top Rank top fighters. So what does GBP do? Avoid Top Rank. So does Showtime compare to HBO they are amateurs when it comes to boxing. HBO beats Showtime in quality fights!

Posted March 31, 2014 3:43 pm 


shaolinwarriormark atboxpicksdtcom

Kovalev has Stevenson number and they both know it.ggg shouldn’t fight Chavez unless the 168ib. weigh in 5 hours before the fight.

Posted March 31, 2014 3:27 pm 


poor pacturds

I guess Floyd cherry picked undefeated fighters ? Tell me who is more dangerous than Canelo right now? Who cherry picks champions? I guess he is scared of Manny that’s why he offered him 40 million to fight back in 09. Miadana just came off a huge win and is destroying fighters I guess he is cherry picked too. Its funny how ass clowns say Floyd is cherry picking when Manny beat all of the same guys and to add insult to injury after Floyd already beat them and they weren’t cherry picked when Manny beat them. Poor tards to think Manny is the only one worthy of Floyd I guess Rios was a good fighter if he wasn’t hand picked I don’t know who is. Manny got KTFO by a old flat footed Mexican Marquez they same guy Floyd walked all over gives Manny the blues every time…

Posted March 31, 2014 2:55 pm 


Rich

Listen…..If they can have gay marriage and men kissing each other…….We can have big tit ring card girls…..

Posted March 31, 2014 2:47 pm 


Tomato Can

But how about the fact that MMA’s now is now being looked into as having more head trauma injuries than boxing. Personally, I think their study’s are flawed.

Posted March 31, 2014 1:38 pm 


Tomato Can

We like the ring card girls, the more the merrier!

Posted March 31, 2014 1:32 pm 


BEARS

this dudes a weirdo talking about remove the girls. next it will be remove the girls from car pictures no cheerleaders, no ring girls. u sound like a total rump ranger dude

Posted March 31, 2014 1:21 pm 


Fan

I feel these fighters work hard and dedicate their life to boxing. I think it’s disrespectful to them and their hard work to put the fake tit bimbos on stage with them to try and steal the spotlight. All attention should be given to the fighters. That’s what porn is for.

Posted March 31, 2014 1:19 pm 


Rich

The mythical juice……”Drink this will make you strong”…Losers always fall back on this same old jargon…They wave it like a banner to clear the air of there same old rubbish…..What colour is it..dunno..what’s in it…dunno… how do you get it..dunno…who makes it …dunno….who else takes it…dunno…but I know Pacs on it…how do you know….dunno…..is it called something else besides juice….er…dunno…..Thank you….step up next loser

Posted March 31, 2014 11:55 am 


BUSTAJAY

Great show guys
Joseph you are correct about time is not on the side of Superman
They say speed kills in boxing but age is a quicker killer bro for the career

Posted March 31, 2014 10:37 am 


Anonymous

Joseph Herron

To knock out an opponent, a fighter has to be willing to take chances and open himself up for dangerous opportunities as well…just as Manny found out in his last fight with JMM.

Don’t expect Bradley to go looking for a knock-out in this fight.

Posted March 30, 2014 11:37 pm

Good point Joseph,
Please tell this to TARK who refuses to believe that Tommy Hearns was a punch or two away from KO’ing Iran Barkely in their first fight. I haven’t seen a beating on an opponent like the one Tommy gave to Barkely for almost the entire time the fight lasted. But, TARK can’t seem to fathom sometimes you are at your most vulnerable when you are attacking and Hearns simply walked onto one. Oh, well. TARK is living in his own, weird world!

Posted March 31, 2014 8:16 am 


Anonymous

TARK vomits the same, tired b.s.
(Correction to post below).

Posted March 31, 2014 8:12 am 


muchacho

1. Pacqquiao/Bradley – end of pacman or rise again, always came back after losses. Bradley need the brother’s support. 1.2 PPV buys.
2. Cotto/Martinez – Closed fight will have a rematch, knocked out will end one career. 700K PPV buys.
3. Chavez/Golovkin – Winner will be the new Superstar, loser can still come back. 500K PPV buys.
4- Floyd/Maidana, Khan/Collazo, Broner/Molina – 1.2M PPV buys, I’m streaming,

Posted March 31, 2014 7:58 am 


boxing barlow

Maidana is a poor choice of opponent in my opinion and does nothing for Mayweathers legacy. He needs to keep challenging himself and the only fights that I would have considered would have enhanced his career are GGG or Martinez up at middleweight. Beyond this you’ve obviously got Pacman, who if he beat him he would have reached a level in his career which there would be no way of enhancing his legacy any further and he would be fighting purely for the money. Pacman on the other hand has a slightly different route. It is not practical due to his size to move above welterweight so a move to fight the likes of Martinez or GGG are unreasonable unlike in Mayweathers case. However if he avenges the robbery he suffered against Bradley (who is a far better scalp than Maidana) then goes onto beat Marquez in a return fight in my opinion legacy wise Pacman and Mayweather will be both on the same page with nothing to really pick between them. In my opinion if they do eventually get it on in the ring whoever comes out as the winner you could put a argument forward for them being the best fighter of all time. On the other hand if the fight never happens I don’t think that argument could be made.

Posted March 31, 2014 7:10 am 


Ray Ray

Adonis was the 1 that made Dawson a shot fighter. The Ward fight wasn’t chads usual weight…he was still light heavy champ until Stevenson hit him with a sledge hammer…but yeah Kovalev v Stevenson would b good, some1 will b having a nap? Best defence on the night will win.

Posted March 31, 2014 6:07 am 


Auzbox

Agree but kovalev at his best so far beats the shot that caught Dawson. A great fight to hope for

Posted March 31, 2014 5:17 am 


Ray Ray

Kovalev has holes in his game which need 2 b fixed…..He’d have 2 b much better v Stevenson than the Agnew fight…..Bellows, Cloud, Dawson all better than kovalevs opponents.

Posted March 31, 2014 4:46 am 


Auzbox

I think in no world Stevenson beats kovalev but I have been wrong and will be wrong again but a very worthy ppv fight

Posted March 31, 2014 4:36 am 


Mo-Box

Stevenson vs Kovalev would be a tossup fight. Both with explosive KO power and very underrated boxing abilities. Stevenson has speed edge, but Kovalev has KO-power in both hands and higher ring IQ imho. Both of those guys can box and defend better than most of fans think IMO. It’ll be about how their styles mach up and who get’s there first with powerful combos landed flush.

I think Stevenson went for a money making route. Judging Stevenson’s age Kovalev is too dangerous short-term “investment” for him, although it’s a high risk and high reward fight, but why take now it when you can make some dosh meanwhile. Fighter’s strive for stardom doesn’t count many of today’s breed of fighters – they’re there to make living for the most part, not to get killed in need to be ‘the best’.

I think Stevenson probably will cash out with Kovalev in the future, say in 1-2 years. From the safe Showtime grounds Stevenson can just call out HBO’s Kovalev time-to-time and keep the potential fight’s popularity going and growing. Promoters/channels are killing boxing with this but it’s pure business, as usual…

Posted March 31, 2014 4:00 am 


Auzbox

Your bagging Marquez a top 10 p4p guy. Oscar wanted the fight against PAC. Floyd beat him but never hurt him at all. Floyd was scared to fight Margo PAC just beat him every round. You make excuses poor pactard but the fact of the matter is manny fights top guys p4p not guys like baldomir, or Judah after a loss or Ortiz or even guerro for that matter. Those fights are duds. Even if PAC fights Marquez 10 times at least he is ranked p4p. Maidana is not LMAO

Posted March 31, 2014 2:58 am 


Blitz

GGG will stop Jr round 10

Posted March 31, 2014 2:55 am 


Anonymous

Anybody using the term pactard is a Floyd nuthugger.

Posted March 31, 2014 2:38 am 


el tango

poor pactards is in drugz with his comment.pac wud dominate bradley 100% and please go back here after the fight.lol!

Posted March 31, 2014 2:35 am 


mamsworld

GGG hast fought anyone worth talking about the jury is still out on him people always giving these fighters more credit then they deserve let GGG earn his stripes he hasn’t yet. Who has he beat?

Posted March 31, 2014 2:34 am 


Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. LionKing)

Hidalg0: Agree that Jr. will be counting on his expected weight advantage to help him vs. 3G. And also find it hard to believe that Sanchez would allow 3G to fight an opponent so much larger without some type of re-hydration clause. I’m sure they’re well aware of Jr.’s history of gaining a surprising amount of weight overnight and that he tested positive for diuretics in ’09.

The only thing I can think of is that Team GGG must be supremely confident, so might feel they like it won’t matter much. But considering it’s his first step-up to Super MW, I’d take the cautious approach and demand a re-hydration limit at the start of negotiations. (After all, this is the granite-chinned Chavez we’re talking about who can take bombs and keep coming forward while unloading.) That’s my two cents, for what it’s worth.

Posted March 31, 2014 2:31 am 


Poor Pactards

Azzbox Manny beat Oscar, After Floyd and at 147 not 154 Hell Oscar had a IV the night of the fight. Manny beat Cotto after Margercheato almost killed him with plaster of Paris gloves and at 147. Manny beat Margecheato at 147 after he was demolished by Mosley. Since these wins what has he done? Nothing he lost 2 out of his last 3 fights he got KTFO by a flat footed old Mexican Marquez Manny only beat fighters coming off losses or who have been weight drained . Ok what was the last undefeated fighter he beat? Or the last guy he dominated in his weight class that wasn’t a Floyd left over like a over hyped Hatton? Manny hasn’t don’t sht since 09 and if the pacroid took the blood test in 09 Floyd would be 46-0 right now. Manny has no big fights in his future not to mention he has Marquez 5 if he makes it past Tim. He will get his ass handed to him without the juice. He agreed to the blood testing but not before 4 days before the fight because is made him weak? What kind of crap is that? You ass clowns will see come April 12th he will be whopped no juice no win…

Posted March 31, 2014 2:24 am 


Auzbox

If Stevenson thought so he would be all over it yet when asked he wants no piece

Posted March 31, 2014 1:44 am 


TARK

@Hidalgo.., Angnew couldn’t get Kovalev, except with a head-butt and a low blow. He lost every round, was knocked down 3 times, and the KO punch was a JAB!!!

Roy Jones.., “Yes he has unique power … the knockout punch was a jab to the body.”

But Agnew is better then Darnell Boone.. The loser who knocked Stevenson out.. Stevenson already had a huge opportunity to fight Kovalev and ran from it.. He’s only flapping his lips — truly a piece of crap.

Posted March 31, 2014 1:39 am 


Auzbox

Sorry chris you were replying to someone else. I thought it was odd as we were talking yesterday lol

Posted March 31, 2014 1:22 am 


Auzbox

Stevenson is in big trouble if he fights kov but I’m not sure he will

Posted March 31, 2014 1:20 am 


Haimat

First time listening, these guys love Adonis Stevenson. I’ve not heard such praise since Buster Douglas beat Tyson.

Posted March 31, 2014 1:18 am 


Auzbox

And as for cotto being drained. Hopkins fights weight drained every fight and fought weight drained when he stopped Oscar. Don’t make excuses for fighters that don’t make them themself. Manny stops cotto at any weight

Posted March 31, 2014 1:17 am 


Auzbox

And floyd made people think it was ok to fight that bum

Posted March 31, 2014 1:15 am 


Auzbox

Getting the KO isn’t everything chris. Floyd doesn’t. As for rios. He’s a damb site more of a fighter than Ortiz

Posted March 31, 2014 1:14 am 


Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. LionKing)

Entertaining show, Joe! I think HidalgO raised a really important question regarding the Chavez vs. 3G fight. Do you have any idea how far away the negotiations and contract are from being finalized? I mean… is everything already pretty much a wrap or does Sanchez still have time to demand a re-hydration limit?

Considering 3G is a small MW and moving up to 168lbs for this fight, I’d be concerned about Jr. coming into the ring at 183-188lbs if I were Abel. (I believe 3G has never weighed more than 170lbs on fight night.) Do you believe that weight difference could be a major factor and/or game changer considering Jr.’s likely “ground and pound” infighting strategy going into this bout?

Posted March 31, 2014 1:07 am 


anon

When he refused RBT and was protected by idiots such as yourself.

Posted March 31, 2014 1:04 am 


Chris

that last post was mine….

Posted March 31, 2014 1:00 am 


Anonymous

get over it

Who the hell is Rios? Manny deserves no credit for beating up a hand picked lightweight punching bag. Rios cant even fight as for Bradley Manny never dominated the fight it really could have went either way certainly not a robbery. Manny hast KOed anyone since 09 hell the last good fighter he beat was Cotto dehydrated in 09. Floyd beat Oscar and Cotto at 154 not 147. He has no KO power anymore Bradley is one tough SOB he will be the first real test for Manny after getting KTFO by Marquez who by the way has a 5 fight waiting for him is he makes it past Bradley no way Manny wins both fights he will have another L this year for sure right now he is fighting to get out of debt past his prime like so many before him…
Posted March 31, 2014 12:53 am

Rios was at one time a Champion.

Floyd beat a PAST PRIME OSCAR and didn’t look impressive. This was also a Cotto that was already brutally beaten by Margarito and Pac.

Cotto wasn’t dehydrated. If Cotto was dehydrated because of a one pound difference, what does that make Floyd’s victory over Canelo who had to lose two pounds in a weight class he is seemingly to big for?
So let’s not go down this road.

The vast majority had Pac winning a UD.

Posted March 31, 2014 12:59 am 


get over it

Who the hell is Rios? Manny deserves no credit for beating up a hand picked lightweight punching bag. Rios cant even fight as for Bradley Manny never dominated the fight it really could have went either way certainly not a robbery. Manny hast KOed anyone since 09 hell the last good fighter he beat was Cotto dehydrated in 09. Floyd beat Oscar and Cotto at 154 not 147. He has no KO power anymore Bradley is one tough SOB he will be the first real test for Manny after getting KTFO by Marquez who by the way has a 5 fight waiting for him is he makes it past Bradley no way Manny wins both fights he will have another L this year for sure right now he is fighting to get out of debt past his prime like so many before him…

Posted March 31, 2014 12:53 am 


Chris

poor pactards

Manny cannot beat anyone off the juice how the hell does he go from being a wrecking ball. To going the distance with a guy like Rios or even Bradley for that matter? Ray Charles can see he is off the juice and has no KO power anymore. That’s why he refused to take the blood tests in 09 to fight Floyd
Posted March 31, 2014 12:37 am

He schooled Rios. I can’t remember the last time Rios or Bradley had been stopped, can you?

Posted March 31, 2014 12:38 am 


Chris

Joseph Herron

Styles make fights, Chris…it completely depends on what style a fighter has
Posted March 31, 2014 12:10 am

Huh?

I’m saying stylistically, is it harder to fight like Pac who takes more chances by being aggressive and going for the KO or Floyd?

As far as “styles makes fights,” I think it is cliche since it has proven to be false on occasion.

Posted March 31, 2014 12:37 am 


poor pactards

Manny cannot beat anyone off the juice how the hell does he go from being a wrecking ball. To going the distance with a guy like Rios or even Bradley for that matter? Ray Charles can see he is off the juice and has no KO power anymore. That’s why he refused to take the blood tests in 09 to fight Floyd

Posted March 31, 2014 12:37 am 


Joseph Herron

Styles make fights, Chris…it completely depends on what style a fighter has

Posted March 31, 2014 12:10 am 


Chris

Criticism comes to both. If Pac doesn’t knock someone out but wins a UD, its a failure. A struggle. If Floyd does the same, its a brilliant fight but he doesn’t have KO power and isn’t exciting. but he is genius.

Posted March 31, 2014 12:07 am 


Chris

Joseph Herron

To knock out an opponent, a fighter has to be willing to take chances and open himself up for dangerous opportunities as well…just as Manny found out in his last fight with JMM.

Don’t expect Bradley to go looking for a knock-out in this fight.
Posted March 30, 2014 11:37 pm

Would you say it is harder to fight like Manny Pacquiao or Floyd Mayweather?

Posted March 31, 2014 12:05 am 


Joseph Herron

To knock out an opponent, a fighter has to be willing to take chances and open himself up for dangerous opportunities as well…just as Manny found out in his last fight with JMM.

Don’t expect Bradley to go looking for a knock-out in this fight.

Posted March 30, 2014 11:37 pm 


Chris

Hidalg0

Joseph, there’s been speculation that Bradley will stop Pac this time around. I’m wondering what James thinks about this and if he feels that with this being a make-or-break fight for Manny, does he think it’s possible that Manny will try too hard–like he did in his last fight with Marquez–and set himself up to be KOd again? By Bradley!
Posted March 30, 2014 11:24 pm

Wasn’t Rios supposed to stop Pac because Pac was said to be finished as a fighter and wouldn’t be able to take a punch but ended up schooling Rios?

Posted March 30, 2014 11:31 pm 


Joseph Herron

no same day limit is in motion as of this point

Posted March 30, 2014 11:13 pm 


Joseph Herron

lol…chavez jr has to be willing to work

Posted March 30, 2014 11:08 pm 


badger

kovalev also stopped boone in their rematch.

Posted March 30, 2014 11:07 pm 


Joseph Herron

we’ll do it, Luke!!!

we’ll extend the show tonight!!!

Posted March 30, 2014 10:47 pm 


largo

Bradley by stoppage.

Posted March 30, 2014 10:03 pm 


largo

Bradley is a fast, elite fighter; Rios is a plodder with no jab. Big difference.

Posted March 30, 2014 10:02 pm 


largo

Tim’s showing up with a new pair of wheels & good sting on his tail…Manny’s in trouble.

Posted March 30, 2014 9:58 pm 


largo

Throughout this whole promotion Pac has looked listless, distracted and unenergetic; I don’t think Pac’s totally healthy after that real scary and devastating KO. Rios was unable to connect with any meaningful punch against a very defensive Pac, so we still don’t know how he’ll take a good wallop right on the jaw…Personally, I think Pac’s done & Bradley will definitely find that chin with some solid shots & he’s gonna hurt him & stop him. I still have Tim by KO.

Posted March 30, 2014 9:52 pm 


Boxtradamus

Open scoring should be after EVERY SINGLE ROUND!

Posted March 30, 2014 9:46 pm 


Hecdog

Manny Pacquiao will continue to mystify those that think he’s finished. At 35 years of age, Manny is just now hitting his peak years. Today is a different era for fighters. Better training, more skilled athletes and the physical and nutritional components are more advanced. Athletes are extending their peak years and doing more than in past eras. Manny is all together a different athlete than boxers of today. He is an athlete that could have been great at any other sport he chose. I recently watched a video of Manny playing basketball, and he was unbelievable. I know it was just a casual pickup game, but he did show flashes of Allen Iverson, Kobe Bryant and the greatest, Michael Jordan. Manny Pacquiao may have been as dominant a basketball player as he is a boxer. Greatness is an attribute that only few have, and Manny Pacquiao is the only one in boxing history to truly and sincerely have greatness attached to his name. The sports world as well as the world news in general has been circulating around Manny Pacquiao. The media has been following Manny since the start of his training camp in the Philippines, and now has been in Los Angeles 24 hours around the clock. Manny’s legendary workouts and sparring have brought out the who’s who of the world. Griffith Park was a spectacle to see. Fans running through underground tunnels, streets jam packed and security everywhere just to catch a glimpse of the legend. The media has been watching Manny terrorize his sparring partners at Wild Card. Gun shots are what they say the sound of Manny’s punches sound like. They say he’s on fire and looking better, stronger and faster than he’s ever been. Timothy Bradley caught word of this and has now vowed to double up on his socks before entering the ring to fight Manny. The 24/7 was interesting to watch, but the true story is that Timothy is living a false dream. He knows that Manny can beat him inside or outside. Speed and agility makes all the difference in the world. Manny is currently the reining Pound For Pound King in boxing with GGG and Kovalev close behind. No one is on Manny’s level when he is inspired, conditioned and focused. If you were to take the greatest boxers in history on their best night, Manny is still a few notches better. Sugar Ray Robinson, Roy Jones, Marvin Hagler, Muhammad Ali, Julio Cesar Chavez, Oscar De La Hoya, Mike Tyson, Henry Armstrong and others were all great fighters, but when you put the whole package together, Manny Pacquiao comes out ahead. His most recent brilliant boxing performance was one for the ages. Manny went from a roaring lion to a slick, deceptive, calculating mongoose. The foot work, speed and agility were amazing to see. April 12 will showcase the best of the best Manny Pacquiao we’ve seen. Fans will then know why Canelo, Mayweather, Porter, Thurman and both Mikey and Danny Garcia don’t want any part of Manny Pacquiao. The only 8 time division boxing champion ever will end this fight in stunning fashion. All the socks in the world will not help Timothy Bradley. Trust me, Manny will shock everyone that sees this fight. Manny is the best!

Posted March 30, 2014 8:54 pm 



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