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lol

has degale still got that belt he won in brentwood.

Posted April 12, 2014 6:50 pm 


gray

HHLondon – your forgetting Jamie Mcdonell went to hearn as IBF Champion now forgotten and on undercards why stuart hall is looking at unifications!!!! Hearn is taking the wrong path with Degale – The IBF mandatory wont be happening till may next year! If groves wins he will beyond doubt be matched with andre ward and if froch wins he’ll meet the chavez jr govokin winner. either way whoever has the IBF belt wont drop a ward, chavez jr, govokin fight to have a mandatory vs a guy who fights in shopping centres. if degale took the WBC title vs bika at least he could bring a WBC, WBA, IBF unification to the table. Eddie if your reading this email offer me a job as a matchmaker i dont live far from brentwood

Posted April 12, 2014 4:41 pm 


HHLondon

TJ,

Hearn’s building a another GBP and won’t deliver anything of note.

Sky told him to try again when he tried to sell Froch/Chavez Jnr and the only reason we got Froch/Groves ll is down to them unwilling to do the Haye/Harrison or Khan/McCloskey bollocks all over again.

Kell Brook has been as mismanaged and promoted as DeGale has with Warren and Hennessey put together.

Burns done Eds dough inside two fights and his last two cash cows are about to fight, split the dough and unload fancy boy for the rubber.

Posted April 12, 2014 12:58 am 


HHLondon

DeGale will never amount to anything.

He was patted on the back and paid way too much too early and believed the bollocks whispered in his ear.

Hearn’s offered him a few quid more and promised him a shot, but it’s all too late for the mug.

DeGale ain’t got any fans and no one one can even be bothered to pay to see him lose.

Posted April 12, 2014 12:51 am 


gray

saturday nights in shopping centres wont be the same

Posted April 11, 2014 12:48 pm 


TJ

DMX

well said. This is why I’m excited about this possible series of quality fights that we should get and hopefully the likes of Khan, Brook and Gavin will want to be a part of these type of quality match ups.

Posted April 11, 2014 12:17 pm 


DMX

TJ
Yep remember the situation well
With Croydon banger Wayne Alexander, Richard Williams and Takaloo in the mix and we would have had a seriously good Light Middle challenge on, maybe Ensley Bingo Bingham too but he may have been getting on a bit
There was also another Warren white fighter with a huge following can’t remember his name

What a wasted opportunity

Posted April 11, 2014 10:05 am 


lol

has he lost his contract with bluewater shoping centre.

Posted April 11, 2014 9:42 am 


TJ

DMX

you’re so correct about our Middles. Andy Lee is now moving down in weight, Macklin is manoeuvring for another shot at Sturm and I’m not too sure what is happening with Murray and only a few short months ago they were sat round the table with Darren Barker, now retired telling us all how they were committed to fighting each other.

We had same situation back 10 years ago or so with The Secret Richard Williams and Wayne Alexander and a couple others I can’t remember off the top of my head. then the Secret got blurted out when MARAVILLA beat him and all these big fights fell through!

Posted April 11, 2014 9:24 am 


DMX

Hey TJ
Why not, if these fights are easy to make
Why not the same Promoter
I have always been annoyed we never ever got to see Kirkland Laing v Lloyd Honeyghan
Both with Micky Duff, he moved them different directions

Remember all the great Middleweights Britain had, Martin Murray, Darren Barker, then throw in a couple of Irish guys in Macklin and Andy Lee
Then you got a great domestic series of fights that fight fans want
They all lost one by one until domestic match ups didn’t matter

Hearn won’t make the same mistake

Posted April 11, 2014 8:49 am 


TJ

TOTALLY AGREE with you DMX.

HEARN is going down the route of the Arums, Kings, Sauerlands and GBPs.
He is buying up all the talents at SMW and will enter with the champion and leave with both the champion and the challenger for a long time to come.

He can’t lose if FROCH wins as he will negotiate a one fight voluntary before getting DEGALE in their with him and if Groves wins he has an immediate barnstormer against DEGALE and will try and get FROCH a final payday against the winner.

I can’t remember who promotes Callum and Paul Smith, who is sniffing round for a title fight real soon. At present we can even give the cold shoulder to SOG with all these big, domestic fights in the offing.

We could even get our own domestic version of a Super Six style tournament – but, that is just me dreaming big! if only!

Posted April 11, 2014 8:11 am 


TJ

Well said, MICK. I was trying to think of the other series we could have at the lower weight and forgot abou QUIGG, Frampton and Gallahad.

We really could be in for a bumper 18 months or so.

The impact of Eddie HEARN has ultimately been a great thing for boxing and has meant that we are getting decent, quality fights as opposed to so-so fights on the regular.

I’m also looking forward to the likes of Eubank Jnr, Billie Joe Saunders and John Ryder.
I know Saunders and Jnr do not like each other and a rematch with Ryder would be a good contest.

Posted April 11, 2014 8:05 am 


DMX

By Hearn making this signing, I think it shows that he feels Groves will win
There is no way Froch wants to waste time with De Gale
He wants the GGG v Chavez winner or big money Vegas fights

If Groves wins however then the De Gale fight is massive
The thrash talking would make a nuns eyes water, their relationship is a new level of hate

Posted April 11, 2014 6:55 am 


Mick the Marmalizer

TJ: Good point mate & yes Brook, Khan & Gavin should be on the cards sometime. Also Frampton, Quigg & Gallahad @ 122lb should be interesting. I see the so called WBA champion Scott Quigg still hasn’t got an opponent for his next contest (which is next week I believe). Middleweight looks good as well with Mark Heffron & Chris Eubank Jr knocking at the door for British title fights.

Posted April 11, 2014 5:42 am 


TJ

MICK THE MARMALIZER

I think DEGALE has seen the money generated by the rematch and wants some of that and he also does have unfinished business with Groves that he wants to settle.

He has laboured for 2 or 3 years earning relatively little, whilst seeing his nemesis, Groves, the man he hates more than anyone in the world getting what he believes is his rightful shot at the glory.

I am no fan of DEGALE or Groves, but I like the fire and ambition shown by DEGALE as he has passed up a very good chance vs Bika to go down this route.

Its also brilliant for UK boxing if we can get a series of domestic fights where we will be guaranteed to see some serious, quality action in the ring.

DEGALE is a trash talker who is comfortable running his mouth, whereas FROCH is not an is easily outmanoeuvred by Groves. DEGALE will give even more than he gets with Groves and Sky will sell his Olympic Gold medal and his aim to be the first ever Brit to win Gold and a professional title into the mix.

Groves didn’t win the verbals with DEGALE and it will be interesting to see what sports psychological leg up he can get with DEGALE who knows every thingm there is about Groves and perhaps EXPOSE all those things Groves did as a kid to us, the public, like Groves used to embarrass FROCH.

I would personally love to see Groves humbled a bit in the pressers!

This is possibly the best triangle of British world class fights we can get:

FROCH vs DEGALE or Groves vs DEGALE has so many selling points and angles, that I for one will be looking forward to the next chapter.

I wish we could do the same with Kel Brook, Amir Khan and Frankie Gavin at
Welterweight.

Posted April 11, 2014 5:06 am 


TJ

THE IBF to my knowledge is the only major boxing federation/ body that enforces it’s rules to the letter. Apparently the champion must face his mandatory challenger, or highest ranked next available challenger every 9 month period! They are prepared to waive that for exceptional circumstances, for example a unification fight, but they are very tight on their rules.

If FROCH loses to Groves, because Groves is not the leading contender when he wins the title, Groves will have a period of no more than 6 months to defend against DEGALE or be stripped.

After reading their rules I would be surprised if any major champion will want to fight for their titles as they will then be locked into a series of mandatories they will have to face.

If DEGALE gets the mandatory IBF position, whoever wins out of FROCH and Groves will be forced to face him or be stripped of the title.

Posted April 11, 2014 4:54 am 


Mick the Marmalizer

Not really the brightest button in the box is DeGale. As #2 contender for both WBC & WBO titles @ 168Lb, surely financially that should have been the road to take. If he could bring a title to the table then he get’s a 50% split of a Froch/Groves fight, as it stands he’ll only get a 30% cut. “Bad management”!

Posted April 11, 2014 4:49 am 


Rustybucket

Thought DeGale was going to fight Bika, still this is ok, and it makes sense to get him on the Froch/Groves bill. Personally thought he edged the Groves fight, and would like to see a rematch.

Posted April 11, 2014 1:10 am 


WHAT!?!

A couple of nice easy KO’s and paydays for Froch in the next 6 months I guess.

Posted April 10, 2014 9:19 pm 


Mick Hennesy

Bastard – his next Channel 5 fight was gonna pay for some new tyres on the motor…

Posted April 10, 2014 6:47 pm 


Anonymous

James your massive talent! Not trying to be harsh, but you seriously need to look at changin and trainers, you take way too many shots for a boxer of yout ability

Posted April 10, 2014 6:37 pm 


Harry

were to *try*, even

Posted April 10, 2014 5:53 pm 


Harry

There’s no chance whatsoever that DeGale will ever get a fight with Froch. DeGale is nobody in boxing right now, and the suggestion that Froch should fight him is a good deal more far-fetched than was the suggestion that Calzaghe should fight Froch back when he was coming up to his last couple of fights. Froch now, like Calzaghe then, has earnt the right to fight at the highest level for the most amount of money, and to have his Las Vegas swansong.

The Groves rematch is different, since that will be in front of the biggest ever crowd for a British fight. However, DeGale, who contested his last fight in front of 200 bored Bristolians, is nowhere on Froch’s horizon, and even if Froch gets past Groves, I’m quite sure he’d rather give up his IBF belt than stoop to face DeGale (even if Eddie Hearn were to trie to persaude him otherwise).

Groves vs DeGale is a different matter. That’s a rematch that is almost destined to happen, and if or when it does I seriously hope that George takes him out good and proper early on, because make no mistake: DeGale is an insufferable prick.

Posted April 10, 2014 5:52 pm 


Neil (Pomy)

Good move. Looking forward to him getting a title shot

Posted April 10, 2014 4:26 pm 


Somerset

Big thumbs up

Posted April 10, 2014 3:49 pm 


Fight Aficionado

So does this mean DeGale will stop fighting punching bags and drunks? Didn’t think so.

Posted April 10, 2014 3:40 pm 


Kareem Abdul-Jabaar

mick Hennessy has got to be the worst promoter this country has ever seen

Posted April 10, 2014 2:54 pm 


moonshineman

DeGale has never been very good.

Posted April 10, 2014 2:04 pm 


banjo

i’ve always thought that if james degale could just beat brandon gonzales, he would be the number one contender for a shot at the title.

Posted April 10, 2014 1:54 pm 


TJ

I would love to see FROCH vs DEGALE as it would be a case of will DEGALE reach the finish tape before FROCH reaches his chin?

Posted April 10, 2014 1:08 pm 


fry up

degale another olympic bust as a pro so far, same as audley…groves can beat him again.

Posted April 10, 2014 12:50 pm 


boxing barlow

I thought Groves was a half decent fighter but never really rated him that highly at the start of his career. I expected DeGale to go onto have a better career. However when they finally met rather than improve my opinion of Groves after the win I down graded my opion of DeGale. However Groves really blew me away in his performance against Froch and has left me wondering whether I not only compleetly underestimated Groves but since I based by poor opinion of DeGales on his close loss to Groves, maybe I got Degale wrong too?

Posted April 10, 2014 12:36 pm 


Anonymous

degale. a c level fighter.move on.

Posted April 10, 2014 11:56 am 


TJ

I forgot to add that DEGALE and Groves hate each other even more than FROCH hates Groves and it will surely bring out even more fireworks in the build up if Groves wins.
I was then firmly in Groves’ corner defending him against DEGALE for calling him, “ugly, ginger kid.”

But, now we all know Groves is just like HAYE (a master manipulator) aided by Booth, who has a degree in sports psychology I would be shocked if anyone ever again falls for Groves’ nonsense.

My advice to both FROCH and DEGALE would be to keep my head down and mouth shut in the face offs and let my fists do the talking in the ring.

Let Groves run his mouth, it’s more important to ram your fists through his face on fight night!

I would love to see FROCH vs DEGALE as it would be a case of will DEGALE reach the finish gape before Carl reaches his chin?

Posted April 10, 2014 11:41 am 


TJ

I AM VERY glad that James DEGALE has signed for an IBF final eliminator.
This means he will get to face the winner of Carl FROCH and George Groves.

This is a show of real ambition by DEGALE who has been in the dark shadows since his narrow points defeat to Groves.

I wonder if Groves will pull a fast one if he beats FROCH and dump the IBF belt rather than re matching DEGALE. If he does it will reinforce a view I have of Groves that has only grown since his spilt from Adam Booth.

Anyway, this is good news for British boxing if DEGALE earns his shot at the winner.

Posted April 10, 2014 11:35 am 


Ayatollah Khan

So no Bika fight for Degale then? A unification bout (if Degale was to win the WBC) would be preferable.

From Froch’s perspective a Degale bout would be akin to Dirrell (high risk/low reward – difficult opponent/garbage resume).

The big winner is Eddie Hearn.

Posted April 10, 2014 10:15 am 


DMX

You got the right promoter you now just need to rid yourself of trainer Silly Jim McDonnell

Posted April 10, 2014 9:35 am 



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