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Tyroc2

@FM LMAOROTF

Posted April 16, 2014 12:06 am 


Floyd Mayweather

The only way for me to fight Pacquiao is if he leaves Bob Arum, and Manny has to join Mayweather Promotions. When all of that conditions is complied with, it is my cue to finally retire and be a full time promoter.

Posted April 15, 2014 10:57 pm 


Tyroc2

A wise person once said where there is smoke there is fire. Sometimes it ain’t that complicated folks. Its been years and years and years and I don’t know how MM fans can still hold on to the belief that MM wants any part of the Pac Man. Its the drugs, its the PEDs, its the Arum, its the exotic strain of Ebola or the crescent moon…Jesus Christ folks, its 2014 there’s Twitter, space based telescopes and laser guided missiles. There has been a lot of progress. But some people will come on here and post the most cockamamie excuses to justify a millionaire’s desire to keep his semblance of respect attributed solely to his undefeated record which he has taken great lengths to protect at all cost while avoiding a potential beating in the process. Sometime the simplest explanations actually fit folks. It is only the fans with rosy colored glasses drinking the MM cool-aid that are in denial. The truth will set you free.

Posted April 15, 2014 10:51 pm 


te tumbo

Bradley was robbed, Paquiao lost..

Posted April 15, 2014 10:35 pm 


D

The problem with boycotts? They work in Floyd’s favor. In fact anything you say about a boxer, good or bad, works in his favor. It’s all free publicity so Arum is helping Floyd. The worst thing is if nobody calls for a boycott of your fight. Because nobody even knows who TF you are.

Posted April 15, 2014 4:54 pm 


Fight Aficionado

Whatev Arum, you’re late on this bandwagon. I’ve been calling for PPV boycotts of all Floyd and Pac cards since 2009. Only exceptions were when one of my favorites like Matthysse got on the undercard. I’ll support my faves but these ripoffs can otherwise GTFO.

Posted April 15, 2014 4:41 pm 


Martin

@Martin

Haha! Okay, sorry: it is a common name, admittedly, and very decent of you to offer to choose a different handle when posting here. I guess I got paranoid because people have used my name before (as they have many other people’s monikers) in spite.

Cheers Martin!

Posted April 15, 2014 3:33 pm 


Birdhead

The Fighters Manny Pacquiao Ducked On His Way Up
JANUARY 14, 2011 BY LOU BLOCK 89 COMMENTS
By Lou Block
It is true that Manny “Pacman” Pacquiao has ducked a lot of boxers on his move up in weight. This is something that many casual fans of The Pacman have no idea about because they only started following Manny when he first appeared on HBO 24/7 against Oscar De La Hoya a handpicked, big name, opponent who was weight drained.
When Manny Pacquiao was at super featherweight (130 pounds) he only fought a washed up Erik Morales, Past it Marco Antonio Barrera, and Juan Manuel Marquez hoping he aged overnight. Manny also fought Oscar Larios who was coming up from 122 pounds to 130 pounds and Larios almost knocked Pacman out. Manny couldn’t even knock out a former super bantamweight, and people are insulting Floyd Mayweather Jr. for fighting Juan Manuel Marquez? But Manny cherry picked a smaller guy and almost got his ass kicked? c’mon what a joke.
The main fighters that Pacquiao ducked and avoided at super featherweight were undefeated slick black Dominican boxer Joan Guzman and a very tough Mexican Humberto Soto, both of those guys ended up fighting each other and Guzman won the fight by out slicking Soto. At the time Guzman was trained by one of the greatest boxing minds around Floyd Mayweather Sr. and Floyd and Guzman were calling Manny Pacquiao out but Manny never accepted the challenge, this was in 2007. Guzman in his prime was a very slick black fighter, so similar to Floyd Mayweather with his slick hit and not get hit style.
Watch the 2007 interview here at 2:19 Floyd Sr. discusses Guzman’s chances against Pacquiao

In 2008, when Manny was set to go up in weight to the lightweight (135 pounds) division to try and capture another world title in a different weight class he chose the paper champion David Diaz. The fight that all the boxing fans wanted to see was Manny Pacquiao versus the newly crowned unified lightweight champion Nate Campbell who beat up Juan Diaz for the belts giving him his first loss. A real old school boxer who is concerned with his legacy would have fought Nate Campbell because he was the real champion at lightweight. Pacquiao again avoided a slick black fighter.
After Manny defeated David Diaz to capture the WBC title, he fought Oscar De La Hoya and forced Oscar to drain himself to 147 instead of fighting him at a more reasonable 150 pounds catchweight. The win versus Oscar was a hollow victory, all it was is another name to pad Pacquiao’s record.
Shane Mosley beat up Antonio Margarito and called out Manny Pacquiao but Freddie Roach and Manny wanted no part of a guy like Mosley coming off a vicious knockout win over the most feared fighter at the time Antonio Margarito.
Here is the exact quote from Freddie Roach:
“Shane came to the gym twice to ask me to let him fight Manny,” Roach says. “I told him no both times, and both times for the same two reasons: First, there isn’t enough money there, and second, you’re too good a fighter.” (Source: LA Times)

Posted April 15, 2014 2:53 pm 


3k Battery

Skinny Hussein had Manny down for 11 seconds.

Posted April 15, 2014 2:17 pm 


BoxingLammy

@ Mike Tyson…..Pacman didnt see the punch, that is why he got KOed, Was he blindfolded?

Posted April 15, 2014 1:59 pm 


Martin

“Original Martin” sorry for the confusion. Its my real name and if you look at yahoo answers you can see hundreds of posts by me. Ill use “Carytop” from now on. Also I was not looking to legitimize my posts in any way by using “your” name.

Posted April 15, 2014 1:42 pm 


rustico torrecampo

Here are ways to NOT get Floyd Mayweather to fight you. Sue him but dont sue Malignaggi, Cintron, Atlas or you own dang trainer, secondly, your promoter wants to boycott your fights. Anyone with an ounce if critical thinking skills can see what has been going on here.

Posted April 15, 2014 1:39 pm 


Martin

@amor

Cheers!

Posted April 15, 2014 10:56 am 


amor

Martin, that is why I was surprised. See you around.

Posted April 15, 2014 10:37 am 


Martin (the original one)

Sorry, changed my sentence and ended up garbling it.

I meant:

I guess the poster was attempting to give his views more credibility by using my name, so I should probably take it as a compliment ;-).

I always try to post balanced, reasonable, non-partisan comments, so if you see somebody posting things under the name “Martin” that do not fit that description, you can be pretty sure that it wasn’t me.

I also don’t think that calling one’s claims “facts” lends them any credibility, and certainly don’t shout at people by writing “these are the FACTS”, as this cheap imitation “Martin” does.

Posted April 15, 2014 9:22 am 


Martin (the original one)

@amor

“Martin … Reading your past posts seem like you are of sound mind.”

I am. I didn’t write the comment you are responding to. Somebody is posting under the same name. My last post here was April 14, 2014 8:11 am.

It’s a problem with the ESB chat forums: anyone can sign in as anyone else.

I guess the poster was attempting to give his views more credibility if he used my name, so I should probably take it as a compliment ;-).

Posted April 15, 2014 9:08 am 


lol

can you get milk shakes that good anywhere else.

Posted April 15, 2014 7:46 am 


dick tiger

Arum should be calling for the promoters, hbo and showtime to settle their differences , and start making the fights that the fans want to see. This cold war bs is really sucks. If it continues for much longer I for one will no longer have hbo and showtime.

Posted April 15, 2014 7:12 am 


Wolf

Boycotting that fight is stupid but if Mayweather wins his next fight he should fight Pacquiao next.

Posted April 15, 2014 7:01 am 


TARK

te tumbo you’re crazy…

Pacquiao gave samples the day of the fight for Rios. So did Rios.. Pac did the full random testing regimen.

He did it for Bradley too.. He said many times he’ll do any tests Floyd wants.. Testing is NOT and issue any more. Hasn’t been for YEARS!!!

Posted April 15, 2014 2:43 am 


amor

Floyd is one of the best south of 135. North of it? Hardly great.

Posted April 15, 2014 2:33 am 


amor

Martin, I forgot 140# hatton & 135# jmm.

Posted April 15, 2014 2:16 am 


amor

Martin, floyd clearly lost his first fight with castillo. Power punch jlc – 173 pbf – 66, total punches jlc – 203 pbf – 157. So you see floyd is 45-1. That’s a boxer who received proper training eversince he was a preschooler. Given floyd’s history of ducking the top dogs on the divisions he competed in (no need to name them, you are a boxing fan), do you really think that he would have fought pac in 2009-2010? He would have just came up with another excuse. Corley, baldomir, gatti, weakminded judah, part-time boxer odlh, old mosley, leftover cotto, slow and green canelo, guerrero, ortiz. Fighting these guys would really make him look great. Right?

Posted April 15, 2014 1:46 am 


te tumbo

Tark said, “Manny agreed to every damned last detail eventually”.

Manny’s* official advisor Michael Koncz said, “Yeah, well we agreed to, in the past, random testing as long as when we get tested, he gets tested, up to 14 days. WE’RE NOT GOING TO TEST ON THE DAY OF THE FIGHT. I’m not going to sit here and tell you yes, we’ll agree to do tests that day or not, but what we’ve done in the past, we’ve agreed to give blood immediately after the fight but then the problem is THE COMMISSION TOLD US THAT THEY WON’T DO THAT because it’s not sterile in the dressing rooms. Will we give blood 5 days, 7 days before the fight? You know, that’s something I have to talk to Manny* about . . .” Team Pacquiao* never agreed to Floyd’s condition.

Tark said, “Does Manny say, OK Floyd whatever tests, testers, and labs you want to use, you just set it up”. NO. he simply agrees to test aLONG with Floyd like Ortiz, “Balco” Shane, Guerrero, etc. did IF he really and truly wanted to face Floyd, but it’s obvious that’s one matchup Team Punkuiao* will postpone into oblivion.

Btw, let’s not forget Manny’s* panicked excuses for rejecting perfectly harmless and MUTUALLY-Applied testing to face his primary P4P rival. all damning circumstantial evidence that Pacquiao* has been avoiding Floyd all-along.

Posted April 15, 2014 1:34 am 


amor

Martin, the pacman that torrecampo & singsurat beat was an ill trained, one armed bandit. Very different from the manny who got proper training here in the u.s. I’m surprised you brought this up. Reading your past posts seem like you are of sound mind.

Posted April 15, 2014 1:22 am 


TARK

te tumbo.., “How in the F’k could Floyd possibly know that stricter drug-testing would be a deal-breaker for Pacquiao*? HOW?”

It wasn’t a deal breaker… Manny agreed to every damned last detail eventually. But who would take the random samples? Who conducted the tests? What was the time frame? That all had to be worked out. Pacquiao is not an expert on all that. Does Manny say, “OK Floyd whatever tests, testers, and labs you want to use, you just set it up.”

Such a regimen had never been proposed to any boxer in history before as a negotiating tactic. The way it was presented very late in the process was a mind blower. Drug testing was already a part of professonal and amateur Boxing and Floyd wanted a regimen that had never been required.

But that didn’t derail the talks. Manny said Floyd was sincere and it was good for Boxing. He said tough testing is very good for the future of Boxing.

The talks were on going for years, and Floyd has certainly been satified with the drug testing negotiations for the last couple years… It doesn’t mean he’s ever going to fight Pacquiao… If the testing demands were offered in good faith, I’m sure they would have fought by now.

Posted April 15, 2014 12:35 am 


Floyd Mayweather

Everybody’s talking about the WBC title he’s the mandatory. He can have the belt! A belt don’t make me. A belt doesn’t define Floyd Mayweather.

Posted April 15, 2014 12:34 am 


Hecdog

The BUZZ continues after Manny Pacquiao’s clear victory over a tough, hungry and more experienced Timothy Bradley. There are still those that still questioned the greatest fighter of this era and possibly the greatest fighter of all time. People need to realize that Manny Pacquiao has not taken an easy fight in the last 11 years. He has been in the most exciting fights of all time. This is a warrior with the physique of a natural light weight that has had to be forced to eat to make the weight. This is a small man in stature that challenged himself to take on the best and he beat them all. He could have easily stayed at 130 and never lost a fight, but he chose to be great and took risks and challenges through 8 weight classes. Unbelievable!!!!! Manny Pacquiao won last Saturday’s Mega Fight against Timothy Bradley, and he may have not looked like the Manny of old, but he still dominated. Yes he’s 35 years old, and the years of hard work and preparation may have worn on him a bit, but don’t think for one second he can’t beat Floyd Mayweather because he can. All great fighters like Manny Pacquiao still have it in them to put on a great performance. Remember, Bradley was familiar with Manny Pacquiao’s style because he went 12 rounds with him before so he has some familiarity with Manny’s unique style. The same goes for Marquez. They spent time in their with the legend. Floyd Mayweather has none. Manny Pacquiao would have Floyd Mayweather running, stumbling and holding on for dear life. Great fighters can do special things when put to the test. Manny is more than just a great fighter. He seems like he’s off balance at times, but he can hit you from anywhere. He looks small, but can hurt you at any time in a fight. He has great movement that can befuddle you at any time. Manny has the ability to change a fight at any time. He doesn’t have to destroy you to win. He can box, move or simply destroy you in a fight. Manny went from fighting a former champion in Rios, and boxing magnificently to fighting a P4P fighter that was unbeaten, and was out fought and out boxed throughout the fight. As I have always stated, Manny Pacquiao beats anyone on a one fight basis. His style is to complex to figure out, and Floyd Mayweather wants no part of Manny for this reason. Floyd Mayweather knows that he can’t compete with a great fighter like Manny Pacquiao. He won’t risk it or take a chance on losing, which he would. Boxing fans, Manny Pacquiao is the most celebrated and influential prize fighter that has ever lived. We don’t have to see PPV numbers to see the impact he has on peoples lives all over the world. Millions upon millions of Manny Pacquiao fans will never get to see him fight live or on TV because they can’t afford it or don’t have access to getting to venue where the fight is being shown. Manny Pacquiao crosses all boundaries when it comes to popularity. No one will account for those fans living in impoverished neighborhoods around the world. Manny is their only hope. He fights for justice. Manny Pacquiao cannot be denied his greatness by anyone. His character as a man and as a fighter is unblemished. This is a man of God that was put in this position for a reason, and he’s helping those in need. I think it’s time to stand up and salute the great Manny “Pac Man” Pacquiao. Excuse me for a brief moment as I stand and salute as many of you will also………………..Trust me on this, Manny is the best!

Posted April 15, 2014 12:33 am 


Martin

If its so easy to go 46-0 how come Manny isnt? He has cab drivers like Torrecampo and Singsurat on his resume and got his ass handed to him by both.

Posted April 15, 2014 12:15 am 


Martin

Lets be perfectly clear. Manny Pacquiao pulled out of the March 2010 fight with Mayweather. Manny said he was afraid of needles and didn’t want to be dictated to by Mayweather. That’s a FACT. After Floyd agreed to terms Roach said Cotto busted Manny’s eardrum and it needed more time to heal. Funny how it healed in time for Clottey. These are FACTS not spin. Do some research.

Posted April 15, 2014 12:12 am 


Floyd Mayweather

Poochiao is not on my level so this fight is not worth sh!t. Once I stomp the midget, I’ll make that mother f—– make me a sushi roll and cook me some rice.

Posted April 15, 2014 12:09 am 


Martin

Te Tumbo you are absolutely correct! I have saved all the interviews and quotes from Konsz on the subject of drug testing. Pacquiao fans ignore such things. Roach himself admitted that Ariza might have been putting something suspicious in Manny’s drinks. Why did Floyd get sued when he was suspicious of the same thing? Manny will 10 losses and his fans will still think he is the greatest fighter ever. Its like trying to reason with a scientologists. Manny was nearly a ring tragedy two fights ago now he is supposed to whip Mayweather because he won an uninspiring decision over Tim Bradley.

Posted April 15, 2014 12:08 am 


JSL

Maybe to a casual sports fan Mayweather/Pacquiao is the only fight that matters. But not to those of us who watch boxing on a regular basis. Also if the fight ever gets made fine, but I stopped caring about this fight happening quite a while ago.

Posted April 14, 2014 11:55 pm 


te tumbo

“It was done when Floyd came up with the drug testing demand.. Pacquiao agreed to testing..” TARK what unmitigated BullSh*t. we’ve all read and heard Koncz describe how Pacquiao* never-Ever agreed to Mayweather’s testing conditions as IF they needed to be negotiated in the first place. they were MUTUALLY-Applicable(?!). Btw, allow me to add You to the list of Pacquiao* worshippers who don’t dare answer this question: How in the F’k could Floyd possibly know that stricter drug-testing would be a deal-breaker for Pacquiao*? HOW?

Posted April 14, 2014 11:46 pm 


TARK

Pacquiao got even with the cheating Morales team, the testers came in and took several cylinders of blood that he learned later weren’t needed for blood tests… He smashed Morales like crazy the next two times he fought him.. He destroyed him.. He was never so angry with anyone in his life, and with himself for being so naive.

Reporter.., “Would you like to fight Morales again?”

Manny, through his teeth, pissed off as Hell.., “Anytime… Anyplace.”

Posted April 14, 2014 11:31 pm 


TOO SMOOTH

I said it once before and I’ll say it again. Pac and May are setting up the most unbelievable sporting event ever. The plan is simple. They fight each other in their last fight. 8mil in PPV sales, tickets will reach 50,000+ and both will make 75mil each and ride off in the sunset never to grace the inside of the ring ever again. Mark my words, this will happen.

Posted April 14, 2014 11:00 pm 


Exiled Yank

FM will never fight MP. MP is the only fighter he’s truly afraid of.

Posted April 14, 2014 10:45 pm 


Old Coot

@ Hidalgo: That’s right… It was Arum who was being a smartass to the press when he said Manny was “scared of needles”

Manny himself only said, “he didn’t trust giving blood right before any more fights.”, due to a then new aquired fear which Manny gained after what he and Freddie felt were shenanigans that occurred just two days before the first Morales bout, when somehow Manny’s already passed bloodtests suddenly came up missing, which forced take and pass extra tests, which he did, but also felt Camp Morales had something to do with the loss tests… And Manny also felt the extra blood loss directly weakened him, and thus contributed to that loss to Morales.

And when Floyd heard about Manny saying he didn’t trust bloodtests, right before the fight, then of course, suddenly Floyd demanded he take tests, right before the fight… LOL!! Anyone who thinks that was a coincidence is crazy.

Posted April 14, 2014 10:23 pm 


Floyd Mayweather

Floyd Mayweather is his own boss. I would never do what the boxing public wants me to do just to make them happy. Floyd would only do what Floyd wants to do. Scr&w that!

Posted April 14, 2014 10:20 pm 


TARK

Pacquiao has had his blood drawn numerous times and has no problem with it.. Never had.. He accepts it as part of the deal like any other high profile athlete who agrees to have these tests done.

Edwin Rodriguez said, “I’m doing the VADA tests.” Andre Ward said, “Good for him. I’m not taking those tests. Victor Conte is involved with them. I’m clean. I don’t do PEDs. I’ll do any tests that are approved by the boxing commissioners. Those are good enough for me.”

Posted April 14, 2014 10:16 pm 


Hidalgo

“Manny needs to go to Arum and say “make the Mayweather fight, or I’m retiring”

Well, now we know why you call yourself “birdhead.” Manny makes $20 million or more per fight and you expect him to give Arum ultimatums? LMAO!!!

Posted April 14, 2014 10:02 pm 


Old Coot

Floyd just needs to try to prove he can beat Manny… PERIOD!!

Posted April 14, 2014 10:01 pm 


Hidalgo

“Im still scared of needles”

Pac never said he was afraid of needles. If you think you can prove otherwise, find a direct quote of Pacquiao saying he was.

Posted April 14, 2014 10:00 pm 


pinoy

Ahahaha! Pagsal-salan mo na lang si floyd!

Posted April 14, 2014 7:58 pm 


Martin

ESB turning into garbage just like Yahoo Answers did. Peace out…

Posted April 14, 2014 7:57 pm 


Pac man fever aka hecdog

Pinoy is Bakla Pinoy lol

Posted April 14, 2014 7:53 pm 


Pac man fever aka hecdog

Is this better dumbass? Im not hiding from anyone idiot lol

Posted April 14, 2014 7:52 pm 


pinoy

Fake hecdog schooled. Had to change ID to pac man fever! Lmfao!

Posted April 14, 2014 7:05 pm 


Pac man fever

Im still scared of needles

Posted April 14, 2014 7:01 pm 


Pac man fever

Im broke and have 5 losses 3 by knockout. Please Floyd beat me by easy UD so I can get Krista Ranillo back.

Posted April 14, 2014 6:50 pm 


Real Birdhead

Floyd sure has no problem mixing it up with heavier punches for someone with “no power” and unlike Manny he never looks like he went through a war.

Posted April 14, 2014 6:45 pm 


Floyd Mayweather

Pac can stay on his side of the pond and Floyd Mayweather can do his thing in my side of the fence. Nobody should intrude on my personal business here, nahh ahh!!

Posted April 14, 2014 6:34 pm 


Floyd Mayweather

The world is big enough for Pac and Floyd Mayweather to coexist together. No need to destroy each other all the time warfreak bi@tches.

Posted April 14, 2014 6:31 pm 


hecubus

fake hecdog – uh…he had plenty of KO’s during the first half of his career, numbnuts

Posted April 14, 2014 6:30 pm 


Floyd Mayweather

Marquez does not want to fight Pacquioa either, so why don’t you pick on him ??? Why me ??? Racist mfkers.

Posted April 14, 2014 6:26 pm 


Floyd Mayweather

C’mon man, leave this bro alone.

Posted April 14, 2014 6:21 pm 


Floyd Mayweather

What have I done to some people for them to treat me like this ??? Mean basterds !

Posted April 14, 2014 6:19 pm 


Floyd Mayweather

All this talk about me taking on Pacquio is giving me a nervous breakdown. PLEEASE STOP !!!! JUST STOP IT!!!

Posted April 14, 2014 6:15 pm 


amor

Fake hecdog, we were all infants at one time! Is that your point!? Too bad for you RETARD, people GROW!!! Come on man! Entertain me more! Hahaha!

Posted April 14, 2014 6:07 pm 


soda pop

LOL, hec dog for president

Posted April 14, 2014 5:57 pm 


Hecdog

Suckubus no spit. FLOYD NOT A BIG PUNCHER DUHHHH.

Posted April 14, 2014 5:57 pm 


Hecdog

Robinson never got ktfo by a 3K Battery lol

Posted April 14, 2014 5:56 pm 


Hecdog

Lol Robinson was what 81-1 at one point? Once again Pactards revise history.

Posted April 14, 2014 5:55 pm 


hecubus

also, the only ko floyd has had in years was via suckerpunch

Posted April 14, 2014 5:46 pm 


Swedish Boxing Fan

So sad that the only thing fans of Floyd Mayweather Jr ever talks about is PPV, ratings, how much money he earns, how perfect he is etc – What is all that s#it about boxing and him as a boxer in the ring? Poor subjects to talk about as that is not noxing stuff anyway, that is buisness mens talk, not true fighters.

The truth is that real hard core boxing fans don’t like him becouse of his giant EGO and prima dona acting + trash-talks the opponents that are potential threts and avoids fighting them for as long as possible or never fight them.

Real fans don’t care about how much they earn, they want to talk about fighting the best fights possible.

Posted April 14, 2014 5:29 pm 


amor

Fake hecdog, last time I checked, the current GOAT sugar ray robinson has a bunch of losses as well! Facing the best is all that matters!!! Ducking the best is LAUGHABLE!!! You’re a waste of time!!! Hahaha!

Posted April 14, 2014 5:24 pm 


Hecdog

Manny Pacquiao. .the only fighter in history where losses dont count lol

Posted April 14, 2014 5:12 pm 


amor

Fake hecdog, did you forget that pac came up from flyweight!? I don’t think that you’re that stupid to be reminded! Lol!

Posted April 14, 2014 5:01 pm 


Hecdog

I am sad. Manny can’t knock out guys since Ariza left.

Posted April 14, 2014 4:49 pm 


Hecdog

Im actually very insecure and nervous about Manny’s place in history because he has so many losses. I hate that Nikka Mayweather because people think he is better. I have to keep writing long stories about Manny to convince myself and others that he is a great fighter.

Posted April 14, 2014 4:47 pm 


Real Birdhead

Lets say after Floyd wins a likely UD in May and he and Pacquiao talk about fighting. Assuming Manny rejects another JMM fight. What exactly has to happen? Would Manny come to Showtime? Would Arum step aside? Would the fight be on HBO or Showtime PPV? Looking back I can’t believe Oscar and Tito ever got made. Two undefeated champion hall of gamers in their primes. Neither Floyd or Manny seem to be able to end fights. Manny, after promising to go for the kill against Bradley admitted he didnt want to make a mistake.

Posted April 14, 2014 4:39 pm 


Hecdog

Manny Pacquiao is Boxing’s most important and influential prize fighter today. There is no comparison. Manny routinely fights the best of his era, and put son a show. The fight everyone has been wanting to see for 6 years will never happen. The drug testing issues have been resolved a long time ago. The truth is that Floyd Mayweather truly FEARS Manny Pacquiao. Sparring partners that have been in there with both all say the same thing. Manny is something special. You can’t see his punches, his movement and angles he throws punches at are incredible. And his power is destructive. Floyd’s family (dad, uncles) have been outspoken for years regarding Floyd’s safty if he were to fight Manny Pacquiao. It’s out in the open now. Floyd Mayweather has ruined his already tarnished image forever. Never has a boxing champion been questioned by so many of his own peers. Manny Pacquiao continues to earn more credibility and admiration by taking on the best in boxing. He has nothing to prove. Manny Pacquiao proved to the world that he fights for the fans. He gives 100% each and every time, and he’s not afraid to take chances. The 15,000 plus fans at the MGM Grand watched a living legend put on a show that no one will ever forget. Manny Pacquiao will never be forgotten. He has never had an easy fight. The best ever. Trust me on this.

Posted April 14, 2014 4:37 pm 


TARK

Floyd would be favored… But he would never risk his “O”

Posted April 14, 2014 4:36 pm 


TARK

Benny the Jet says.., “A question for Pactards. When Floyd dominates Manny what will you say?”

They will say, “FKING UNBELIEVABLE!!! … Floyd actually grew a pair and took the Pacquiao fight. Mind blowing … yet true…”

They’d be at a loss for words… Of course Floyd will never actually take the fight … so you’re talking pure Fantasy Land.

Posted April 14, 2014 4:33 pm 


birdhead

There is a “birdhead” imposter here. Anyway the fight could be signed tomorrow and it would be 6 to 7 months away. The fight might not ever happen. Ill say this. Manny had better not lose any more fights. If he finishes at say 58-8 no one would believe he could have beaten Mayweather. Both fighters are getting up there in years. It wont be the Floyd who destroyed Diego Corrales against the Manny who battered Barrera.

Posted April 14, 2014 3:57 pm 


te tumbo

AnonymASS, i’ve been posting since yesterday, FATso. where have you been? moreover, I’m not even taking credit for the multiposting troll who posted a UD pick in Manny’s* favor under my name, i.e., UnFnFadeable.

Posted April 14, 2014 3:50 pm 


soda pop

Anonymous….

hey keyboard warrior, easy to say things on the net than in person right.i know your pretty savy with your kewboard and deadly with your fingers…Easy to say what you want withought getting your head cracked wide open right? Get a life your racist bum, hide behind your pc.

Posted April 14, 2014 3:43 pm 


Old Coot

And I told all the Floyd fans that most fans STILL want Pacquiao V Mayweather? And always will, until Mayweather retires and ducks him for good.

Posted April 14, 2014 3:03 pm 


Old Coot

In fact, the last Mayweather fight I paid for was VS Gatti.

Posted April 14, 2014 2:59 pm 


Old Coot

Hell, I have boycotted Floyd’s fights since 2009, when he could have waited two days to sign with Pacquiao, but ducked him to cherry pick lead footed featherwieght Marquez instead.

Posted April 14, 2014 2:58 pm 


soda pop

bradley lost this fight for all the wrong reasons.His trainer should of known better, if he had fought the fight as he did in the first this might have had a different outcome.just because marquez k.o paqiou silly doesnt mean bradley could do the same.grant it he stunned paqiou but he couldve done more damage boxing a bit more intelligent.Bradley is not one demensional and should have not came to the fight feeling he needed a k.o to win.somehow i feel like after marquez paqiou 5 will get bradley vs paqiou 3…..the smoke is starting to clear.

Posted April 14, 2014 2:52 pm 


Mike Tyson

Anonymous

Te Tumbo has offed himself. The obit is in the East LA Record. His real name was Jose Real “Chucho” Ochendo. Left behind his husband Orlandito Cruzabel and three adopted children. Very sad news.

Tumbo haven been around for 3 days, what are you saying?

Posted April 14, 2014 2:42 pm 


birdhead

Maja Salvador is a w.h.o.r.e.

Posted April 14, 2014 2:38 pm 


birdhead

I whack off to Anne Curtis as a mermaids.

Posted April 14, 2014 2:37 pm 


birdhead

Pacquiao vs Vice Ganda next

Posted April 14, 2014 2:30 pm 


hecubus

fedor….one area pacquiao is better is that he has balls and will fight anyone

Posted April 14, 2014 2:01 pm 


amor

Birdhead, talking about boxing!? You must have had a stupid teacher in english composition. Dumb teacher = dumb product! That’s why this country’s economy is struggling! Lol!

Posted April 14, 2014 1:28 pm 


birdhead

Manny needs to go to Arum and say “make the Mayweather fight, or I’m retiring”

Posted April 14, 2014 1:17 pm 


birdhead

I am talking about boxing dumbass

Posted April 14, 2014 1:15 pm 


amor

Birdhead, you ignorant fool! This is a boxing site! Third world country and progressive country! Apples and oranges! You make me laugh! Hahaha! Stick to boxing! Stupid!

Posted April 14, 2014 1:03 pm 


birdhead

I assure you. I know filipinos very well. They are not as confident as they appear to be. They have low self esteem and copy everything american. The crime rate goes to nearly zero when Pacquiao fights. That’s sick. Its not something to be proud of.

Posted April 14, 2014 12:48 pm 


amor

Fedor, wouldn’t you look great, fast, defensively sound, etc fighting the likes of corley, baldomir, gatti, part-time boxer odlh, old mosley, leftover cotto, slow & green canelo, 140# hatton, 135# jmm, guerrero, ortiz? LMFAO!

Posted April 14, 2014 12:34 pm 


WarZ

Fedor, the only difference between Mayweather and Pacquiao is that Mayweather doesn’t want to fight Pacquiao. Mayweather has to prove what you claim.

Posted April 14, 2014 12:11 pm 


rustico torrecampo

Bob Arum tells it like it is.

Posted April 14, 2014 11:46 am 


rustico torrecampo

What do u mean manny was a novice when I whipped his punkass?

Posted April 14, 2014 11:43 am 


fedor

great article at its best , its about time somoene tell the truth or tell it how it is , manny pacquiao will never ever be able to beat mayweather even if they fight 10 times floyd will win 10 out of 10 , floyd is way much faster , super quick reflexes, superior defence , better counter puncher , faster movements & stronger chin than pacquiao floyd never been stopped or knocked out , so can someone tell me in what department pacquiao is better mayweather???? even if floyd beats GODZILLA , still pacquiao fans will never give him the credit he deserves & floyd mayweather knows that thats why he stopped caring about the huge outcry from pac fans.

Posted April 14, 2014 11:40 am 


Benny the Jet

Both these chumps need to get locked in a room and not let out until a contract is signed.

Posted April 14, 2014 11:40 am 


Benny the Jet

Question for Pactards…if they fight and Manny wins no big deal since Floyd is a coward ducked cherry picker? Or does Manny become the goat because Floyd is so great? Take a pick.

Posted April 14, 2014 11:37 am 


Anonymous

dont compare duckweather with the real legends.

Posted April 14, 2014 11:15 am 


Popkins

Let me put it another way… Floyd is the richest and one of the most influential figures in boxing of the last 10 years, yes? … and Pac vs Floyd would have been the richest fight in history? …. If Floyd felt so strongly about drug testing, and he really thought Manny was taking PEDs, Mayweather could have persuaded the MGM Grand Garden to ensure all fights under their roof were under the drug testing regulations that Floyd was banging on about. If his views were that sincere and relevant I’m sure he could have got the MGM to have brought this legislation in. Most of Pac’s fights have been at the Garden, so Manny would have almost certainly got used to this testing in order to keep his fights at this casino , and he wouldn’t have resisted as it was being applied to all the big fights at the casino. Hell, other casinos would probably follow suit then. ……. Think of the money that Mayweather has brought to the MGM. If they’d not met his demands he could have started using another Vegas casino as the base for his fights. The MGM would have caved in. And all this would have been worth it to make the biggest fight in history and to shut up all the journalists/fans that insist Floyd is ducking him. Floyd could have just paid someone to sort this out, it would have cost peanuts in the grand scheme of things………………………………………as I said, Floyd could have found a way to fight Pac and cleaned up boxing as the same time if he felt so strongly. But he doesn’t feel that strongly about it, he’d rather just invent excuses to duck Manny, to keep his “0″ intact and take less risky fights. And who can blame him, it worked didn’t it.

Posted April 14, 2014 11:06 am 


Popkins

Floyd blatantly invented new drug testing conditions in order to delay/wriggle out of the fight. Can you imagine Usain Bolt saying to his rivals ” I will only race you in the world championship final if you participate in my preferred drug testing method prior to the competition. It’s not used as standard in the other leading competitions, but I just want you to do it. And if you don’t then I won’t race you, but I will race the much lower ranked sprinters in the world. And if you don’t take my test, you won’t race, making you a drug cheat, therefore by default I will be the best sprinter ever!””. ……….. In any other sport Floyd’s antics would be laughable. He openly admits he’s his own boss and picks and chooses his own fights. Yet he makes up the rules as he goes along. As I said, if he wanted the fight to happen, it would. He’s the richest man in sport. Money talks. By now he could easily have negotiated this fight against Manny, either via Bob, or as a one off without Bob.

Posted April 14, 2014 10:46 am 


te tumbo

“If Mayweather had pushed for the fight it would have taken place”(?). POPKINS, following agreement on every other detail –including Manny’s* unprecedented $10 million overweight penalty– please explain to me how Mayweather could’ve possibly known than stricter and MUTUALLY-Applied drug testing would be a deal-breaker for Manny*? HOW could he have possibly known this?

Posted April 14, 2014 10:25 am 


Popkins

@te tumbo…If Mayweather had pushed for the fight it would hav taken place. Being his own free agent and by utilising the media he cud hav forced it. … Nobody expected Manny to step up from super featherweight. Nobody expected him to beat Oscar. Nobody expected him to fight Hatton or Cotto. Even after losses Pacman is still a huge star. Being a super featherweight nobody expected PAC to fight Floyd. … As the true welterweight the onus has always been on Mayweather to fight Pacquiao. But Floyd is scared of how a loss will affect his ego. And he’s scared of how it will affect his fanbase.

Posted April 14, 2014 10:06 am 


te tumbo

“Yo”, AnonymASS, what’s the point of Manny’s* line being open “24/7″ if the guarantee includes the disclaimer that Arum is manning the line? talk about reading and listening comprehension problems . . .

Posted April 14, 2014 9:55 am 


Anonymous

Yo, knucklehead…..Arum never said he would never allow Pac to fight floyd, what he did say, if you’re hard of hearing is, his line is open 24/7. So, with that said, anyone who does not lack comprehension understands what that means exactly! Thing is, Floyd is his own boss and from his end, can make the fight happen. Please don’t bring up the crap from2009, that’s old news. Yesterday was yesterday and today is TODAY!! That’s all that counts.

Posted April 14, 2014 8:53 am 


Haimat

PutangInaMoPacquiao, you should set up a private chat with mansworld. I’m sure you’ll have a great time together.

Posted April 14, 2014 8:52 am 


Haimat

mansworld, your posts are hilarious. You’re a great Floyd nuthugger. I’m impressed. “Tim almost KOed him until he ran out of gas”, “Floyd fight way better opposition Manny couldn’t beat the likes of Miadana or Canelo.” “the fight fell apart in 09 because of Manny listening to Arum”

Your head is so far up Floyd’s a*s. Floyd is a simple thug. Gang-banging wannabe, a black J-Bieber, a pathetic dude. Floyd needs to get permission from his boss Al Haymond to tie his shoe laces. He’s a puppet. Haymond is a smart dude who realizes the dangers of fighting an explosive fast south paw. That’s why Floyd suddenly “retired” and found an interest in testing, couldn’t come to a financial agreement etc etc. Why he started the world championships of excuses.

I’m glad you think Maidana and Shawn Porter are better fighters than Bradley and Manny. You must be alone in the universe with that view.

Posted April 14, 2014 8:50 am 


v town vet…

Arum can kiss every boxing fan’s azz! He’s help ruin boxing more than anyone…..tired of pac vs , marquez,noone asked for bradley 1…no one asked for bradley 2.. or marquez 400… arums just a butt hurt crook….

Posted April 14, 2014 8:17 am 


Popkins

If Mayweather had pushed for the fight it would hav taken place. Being his own free agent and by utilising the media he cud hav forced it. … Nobody expected Manny to step up from super featherweight. Nobody expected him to beat Oscar. Nobody expected him to fight Hatton or Cotto. Even after losses Pacman is still a huge star. Being a super featherweight nobody expected PAC to fight Floyd. … As the true welterweight the onus has always been on Mayweather to fight Pacquiao. But Floyd is scared of how a loss will affect his ego. And he’s scared of how it will affect his fanbase.

Posted April 14, 2014 5:30 am 


Popkins

Floyd is his own boss. It’s clear to all: if he had wanted the fight with Pacman, he would have made it happen. He’s the naturally bigger guy and even now it wud be the richest fight in boxing history. If Floyd agrees to the fight now, wen it is obvious to all that PAC is not the same fighter anymore, it just proves he ducked Manny in his prime years.

Posted April 14, 2014 5:16 am 


Syd Convoy

Some of you are the same goons who bought the Mayweather-Gurrero PPV. That one was so bad one cannot even slightly justify purchasing it.

Posted April 14, 2014 3:42 am 


Old Coot

Manny has the ability to fight like Floyd if he needs to, Floyd can’t fight like Manny EVER!!

Posted April 14, 2014 3:34 am 


Zuks

Manny can beat Floyd?

NIYANYA

Posted April 14, 2014 3:33 am 


Havoc

Rustico good body shots! Too bad he did not go far in his career! He KO the great Manny Pacqiuoa! I would like to see a rematch but I think that dude doesn’t fight anymore.

Posted April 14, 2014 3:30 am 


Havoc

Every fighter that beat Manny has been avenge and some…..

Posted April 14, 2014 3:28 am 


Old Coot

rustico: Yeah when he was a near starving and dehydrated novice.

Posted April 14, 2014 3:28 am 


Old Coot

Cotto almost whooped Floyd’s ass!

Posted April 14, 2014 3:25 am 


Old Coot

Eric: Manny KO’d and made you quit in the last two fights.

Posted April 14, 2014 3:24 am 


Old Coot

Bird: Call it excuses, I call it seeing.

Posted April 14, 2014 3:22 am 


Havoc

Birdhead aka te tumbo aka Putanginamopacqiuoa is the same crazy Filipino dude who goes out on rants!….don’t be fool! You are talking to the same person. Screw you!

Posted April 14, 2014 3:22 am 


Old Coot

birdhead: Floyd couldn’t knockdown Cotto nor Mosley, but Manny did.

Posted April 14, 2014 3:22 am 


Old Coot

Auzbox: Yep, In their 4th fight, Manny was outclassing Marquez and headed for a clear UD for the first time… However, when Manny got Juan hurt, he and Freddie went for a KO trying to prove an unnecessary point, but got KO’d themselves.

Posted April 14, 2014 3:20 am 


Havoc

Manny is a little bit slower and his punch output is declining but his defense are now improve and he is using it a lot. Making up for not been able to KO his opponents. Nevertheless he wins on points for landing more and breaking down opponents. Bring on Floyd or Canelo at 147lbs. If Canelo wants….Bring on Khan or Garcia or Thurman.

Posted April 14, 2014 3:18 am 


Havoc

Marquez needs to go cry and beg Bradley for a rematch! He just lost to Bradley! Before he can ask Pacman for another chance! 2-1-1! Marquez don’t deserve another payday from Pacman!

Posted April 14, 2014 3:10 am 


Old Coot

Auzbox: Yep, no way Floyd hits hard enough to keep Manny off him enough… And with Floyd’s relatively low punch output, even with his great defense, against Manny’s quickness (hand and foot) equal stamina, and high work-rate, Manny will still land more punches than Floyd.

Posted April 14, 2014 3:08 am 


Auzbox

Agree totally, hopefully Alvarado beats Marquez, because when PAC destroys Marquez they will just use his weight as an excuse. Usually floydoids MO make excuses lol

Posted April 14, 2014 3:06 am 


Old Coot

If Manny chose to fight Marquez like Floyd and Tim did, Marquez couldn’t touch Manny!

Posted April 14, 2014 3:03 am 


Auzbox

We see it yet his pitiful drones don’t. At least the greats of the sport see through him as we do. We will have the last laugh

Posted April 14, 2014 3:01 am 


Old Coot

Yep… And then, to slow Marquez down even more, Floyd mandated Juan gain ten pounds of rip in a few months, before his reflexes could adjust… THEN Floyd cheated on the weight himself, twice!

Posted April 14, 2014 3:00 am 


Auzbox

Spot on why fight the biggest money fight in history when you money mayweather right? Lol he is probably the biggest laughing stock in boxing. Net if manny had lost he would Jane been straight out but now he is in hiding as usual lol

Posted April 14, 2014 2:57 am 


Old Coot

Auzbox: Yep, In 2009, Floyd was supposed to wait just 2 days and sign with Manny, but instead, he ducked him to make a lead-footed featherweight named Marquez jump 2 weight classes.

Posted April 14, 2014 2:55 am 


Auzbox

Don’t worry old coot you watch all the same guys will pick against PAC come November and once again they will be wrong

Posted April 14, 2014 2:50 am 


Old Coot

Floyd and Tim both beat Marquez because he has lead feet, and they just stayed away to tag him… Manny comes to fight Marquez and gives him opportunities like that KO shot.

Posted April 14, 2014 2:49 am 


Benny the Jet

Manny is a great club fighter in the Ray Manning mode

Posted April 14, 2014 2:48 am 


Old Coot

Auzbox: Yeah… Any combo from floyd is an event. LOL!!

Posted April 14, 2014 2:47 am 


Auzbox

Old coot are you sure floyd knows how to throw a 3 punch combination or just a left or a right

Posted April 14, 2014 2:42 am 


square ring

Man I’m looking at all these posts. Why not boycott BOTH fighters until they are locked in a room and make a deal. Ain’t no one blameless in this. Floyd with his “legacy dont pay the bills.” And Manny who sits back and says “its up to my promoter” and shrugs.

Posted April 14, 2014 2:42 am 


Auzbox

Floyd fought Marquez when he was a champ 2 weight divisions down not at his natural weight. As I always say- if PAC has fought up 8 divisions why can floyd only do 5?

Posted April 14, 2014 2:41 am 


Old Coot

Manny walks you down, throws ten-punch-combos and 80 to 90 punches per round, Floyd runs, pot-shots, and throws what like a 3 punch combo and 40 to 50 punches per round?… He better be scared!!

Posted April 14, 2014 2:40 am 


Auzbox

Yeh but poplkins floyd didn’t take the 1 spot off PAC Bradley did via a rought. When your the best you want to face the best not guys that sent even ranked in the top 10

Posted April 14, 2014 2:39 am 


3k Battery

Manny ducked Canelo

Posted April 14, 2014 2:38 am 


3k Battery

Old coot if manny would stop losing the fight would have been made. Hell make it now! Winner fights Juan Manuel Marquez. We know what floyd did to him

Posted April 14, 2014 2:37 am 


WarZ

Te tumbo and PEEJ has more knowledge in boxing than these java, benny, man whore etc that’s why they are not here. They can’t say anything now.

Posted April 14, 2014 2:37 am 


Auzbox

Well no 3k that’s not correct, floyd is hailed a cherry picker by his peers so he has to carry that around like a bad smell as long with the videos where he admits he was scared of Margo and PAC. He can’t delete those whether that’s the case anymore or not

Posted April 14, 2014 2:37 am 


Old Coot

Seriously… Why don’t Floydiots wanna see him shut Manny and his fans up?… SCARED is why!!

Posted April 14, 2014 2:36 am 


Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. LionKing)

PacMan was #1 P4P and the most popular boxer in the world when FMJ ducked him back in ’09. The TRUTH is that Pac eventually agreed to all Floyd’s testing demands, then FMJ just kept creating more and more demands — like it was some sort of childish game. Pac kept agreeing to his demands and FMJ kept creating more demands, to the point where it became ridiculously obvious that FMJ just didn’t want the fight.

Pac has called him out several time since then and stated that he’s always open to entering new negotiations. Floyd responds with silence. Pac still wants the fight and FMJ still wants to avoid it. Those, boys, are the plain and simple FACTS.

Posted April 14, 2014 2:36 am 


3k Battery

Pratt lol sounds like you are 5 years in the past. Pac can’t stop guys any longer

Posted April 14, 2014 2:35 am 


Popkins

If a peak Martinez had beaten Mayweather a couple of years ago, which was highly likely, wud that mean Sergio was “better” (pound for pound)than Floyd. Absolutely not. And the same reasoning applies to Manny v Floyd.

Posted April 14, 2014 2:35 am 


Old Coot

It say so much about the real confidence Floydiots have in him, when they don’t even want him to try to prove all his and their big talk.

Posted April 14, 2014 2:35 am 


3k Battery

Auzbox same with Floyd. If he retires undefeated he is up there in hallowed territory with Marciano , Robinson and Louis. Not a damn thing you can do and you can’t erase ktfo losses to Torrecampo, Singsurat and Marquez.

Posted April 14, 2014 2:34 am 


Pratt

Floyd is the problem, not Broner or Manny. Floyd is the problem. I think Floyd will have trouble with Manny in a fight and I think Floyd would also have trouble with Bradley. Manny has heavy punch, punches from all angles, punches in bunches, and is relentless with pressure. Floyd would have no where to run. I bet you Floyd never faces Manny, ever.

Posted April 14, 2014 2:34 am 


Auzbox

Benny who cares, the fight doesn’t need to be talked about its done. It would mean nothing. If floyd wins us PAC fans say its 5 years to late. If PAC wins you say he’s juicing and would of win in 09. No win for fans

Posted April 14, 2014 2:33 am 


Old Coot

@ teflon: All we wanna see is if Floyd can prove YOU right… We think Manny can prove US right… Tell Floyd to cut all the ‘reasons’, and let’s see.

Posted April 14, 2014 2:33 am 


Auzbox

Also Teflon I usually agree with a lot that you write when it doesn’t regard PAC. But don’t come with the Bradley gassed, one week it’s he fights dehydrated fighters the next he’s juicing. He beat a prime number three world wife guy so give credit where it’s due

Posted April 14, 2014 2:32 am 


Benny the Jet

Popkins manny pulled out of the march 2010 fight. Would you like the links?

Posted April 14, 2014 2:31 am 


Auzbox

Get over it your a fool that picked Bradley also. Manny doesn’t want the floyd fight nor need it. He is older now and the fight is well past it’s used by date. All that matters now is 3 more wins and he retires an ATG no matter what you say or think.

Posted April 14, 2014 2:30 am 


Benny the Jet

Racist rant? Floyd was in a noose on Pacland dot com and Manny did not demand it be removed. Flip racist bastards.

Posted April 14, 2014 2:29 am 


Popkins

@benny the jet… Wot wil we say? … manny is past his prime and a naturally smaller fighter than Floyd. And yet Floyd ducked PAC 2009-2011…

Posted April 14, 2014 2:29 am 


WarZ

Action is better than words: all Floyd fans are just words. All Pacquiao fans wanted action. Benny the wet pants.

Posted April 14, 2014 2:28 am 


Auzbox

Manny won 3 of the first 4 rounds so not sure what your talking about. Bradley trained harder for this fight than any other so your a fool regarding fitness. PAC tired him cause he is to fast and to slick. Floyd must of juiced to cause he has lost his power also

Posted April 14, 2014 2:28 am 


get over it

I say fck Manny make him suffer he could have taken the fight in 09 and for whatever reason he didnt, so he blew it move on life is short. Floyd is winning Manny is broke and the pactards keep crying Manny needs Floyd to throw him a bone. Floyd sits back and laughs at Manny and Arum and continues to get the big fights and money to boot. I bet Maidana agreed to the blood testing…

Posted April 14, 2014 2:28 am 


java the hut

War here is your answer. ..neither are retired. There is still time. What are you worried about? Manny getting ktfo again?

Posted April 14, 2014 2:27 am 


Anonymous

Benny the Jet goes off on his racist rants. LOL

Posted April 14, 2014 2:27 am 


Anonymous

mansworld, you must be the biggest Floyd nuthugger on ESB at this moment. Congrats

Posted April 14, 2014 2:26 am 


Benny the Jet

Fillys really dont want the fight to happen. They feel empowered in their belief than an undefeated all time great is scared of their hero

Posted April 14, 2014 2:25 am 


WarZ

Question for Benny: when is Mayweather going to fight Manny? Haha that’s the legit question.

Posted April 14, 2014 2:22 am 


Benny the Jet

War nah I’m just sick of you filly chumps. Manny’s record is questionable so you have to tear down Floyd Mayweather. Lots of filipinos hate manny but keep it to themselves. You idiots are like scientologists.

Posted April 14, 2014 2:22 am 


Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. LionKing)

TARK’s last two posts are right on the money! You guys arguing with him could learn a lot if you’d only open your eyes and minds for a change.

Posted April 14, 2014 2:21 am 


teflon

Azzbox your boy juiced no question he has no power. He almost was dropped by Bradley. He took over the fight after the six round like Bradley ran out of gas. Manny fights a more skilled and experienced fighter who wont brawl with him and punch himself out like Tim, and he will get his ass handed to him. Manny is not a big and strong as he once was and i wonder why maybe his new found religion made him get off the juice without the PEDS his is average he didnt look special this weekend good but very beatable. Tiny Tim gave him the fight. But yes Manny beat him the first time. But Bradley is not sht to begin with Manny pissed the judges off the first time thats all…

Posted April 14, 2014 2:20 am 


Old Coot

Floyd has about a quarter the heart that Bradley does… He knows Manny will give him the beat-down he’s been begging for and thoughougly earned.

Posted April 14, 2014 2:19 am 


WarZ

Shame on you Benny the wet pants jet. Couldn’t stand the argument anymore. You are just as smelly as the fish referred to by doctor Jose Rizal. Haha

Posted April 14, 2014 2:17 am 


Benny the Jet

Filipinos have nothing else but Manny. Their basketball players are 4 feet tall thirty have nothing but Pacquiao, Asap karaoke and corruption. Oh and import models and dr bello to fix their ugly faces and maja salvador is a whore.

Posted April 14, 2014 2:08 am 


Auzbox

No benny follow boxing a little bit closer. If PAC signs with arum past this year his sign on fee alone covers every $ of debt. If your a real fan do a little research rather than come on here and hate

Posted April 14, 2014 2:07 am 


Auzbox

Teflon your another clown who picked Bradley. I don’t care for the mayweather fight it means nothing manny is past his prime but still now the 3rd best p4p. He doesn’t need the KO the same as floyd doesn’t. He needs to be smarter and not get hit. As for his chin he proved he can take a medium shot as Bradley power is questionable. Give credit where credit is due. Bradley is in his prime and didn’t match PAC after the brutal KO loss to Marquez. PAC took his 7th 0. As I said before floyd is fighting khans left overs with a loaded card. Of coarse it beats pacs but every single ppv sale is pacs alone, still the second biggest draw in the sport. Simple

Posted April 14, 2014 2:06 am 


Benny the Jet

Manny needs a Mayweather fight to pay his taxes with his brokeass

Posted April 14, 2014 2:03 am 


Benny the Jet

A question for Pactards. When Floyd dominates Manny what will you say?

Posted April 14, 2014 2:01 am 


teflon

Azzbox Manny has lost all his luster I bet the ppvs from the Bradley II fight sucked no one bought that crap. Second the fight with Floyd has lost its momentum and interest except for his loyal tards. Manny has no big fights in his future so he needs Floyd and a handout at this point. He made 30 million for the Bradley fight but I bet the IRS took the whole thing…

Posted April 14, 2014 2:00 am 


mansworld

TARK again what you fail to realize is Floyd makes all the rules either you agree to his terms or you don’t simple as that. If his demands are so unreasonable then why are guys lining up by the drones to fight him? Second why does his fights sell out Vegas and he is the highest paid fighter. He didnt get there by bowing down and compromising his views. He is not the one who needs this fight Manny does. But i bet Manny never picked up a phone and called Floyd to say i will do whatever to make this happen. Floyd dont need Manny at all guy he makes all the rules and all the money without him and he is still pissed Manny walked away back in 09 he states it in the media all the time.

Posted April 14, 2014 1:55 am 


Auzbox

Birdhead AKA seagul manny beat the 3 pound for pound who is floyd fighting again? Khan leftovers hahaha. That is all

Posted April 14, 2014 1:50 am 


SuckerPunch

Warz. I hate floyd. I have always said that he’s running from Pacquiao, but I am also an objective, and very knowledgeable boxing fan that sees things for what they are. Tell you what. I will personally write tk Floyd and tell him to take the fight right after you get Pacquiao’s D-i-c-k out of your mouth

Posted April 14, 2014 1:35 am 


TARK

Boxtra… Pac doesn’t need to fight Marquez again… He was the mandatory challenger for Floyd.

Pac won the Marquez series 2-1-1… He is the world welterweight champion and Marquez is not… Because Marquez clearly lost to Bradley and Pac clearly beat Bradley.

Plus you have no proof that Arum paid C.J. Ross and Duane Ford to make Bradley the winner in his first Pac fight … Arum is not an problem. Floyd is the problem because he doesn’t want to fight Pacquiao … that’s clear.

Posted April 14, 2014 1:34 am 


TARK

mansworld…, The fight was all set.. It was done when Floyd came up with the drug testing demand.. Pacquiao agreed to testing.. He agreed to one regimen after another with Floyd steadily moving the dates… They had what looked like a deal to both sides until Floyd said, “I’m on vacation. I don’t even want to talk about Boxing now.”

Floyd stopped the negotiations… NOBODY ELSE!!!!

Ever since… Everytime Pac meets a demand there’s a new demand from Floyd.

Posted April 14, 2014 1:27 am 


Boxtradamus

Nope. The last time the Fight looked doable Arum paid off the Judges to rob Pacquiao vs Bradley to avoid the Mayweather Fight while at the same time lining UP the in house rematch. And then Pacquiao got his ass knocked out vs Marquez. He has avenged one wrong but he has YET to avenge his recent knockout LOSS. Once he does that then the Fight will be ripe for the making….Of course that depends on IF he can avenge it….I say that IF he gets hit with the same shots that he got hit with last night vs Marquez then expect another knockout WIN by Marquez which would forever close the door on a Mayweather Fight.

Posted April 14, 2014 1:25 am 


Hecdog

What more is left to say about the legendary Manny Pacquiao. Last night’s fight against Timothy Bradley showed Manny’s ability not to be reckless, but patient and calculating. Manny’s timing seemed to be a little off, but he went for it on several occasions. At one point throwing and landing 10 or more punches. The speed was there as were Manny’s tremendous legs. He often moved and had Timothy swinging at air. There were many fantastic toe to toe exchanges, and Bradley connected solidly early in the fight even staggering Manny, but Manny would not let this fight get away from him. This was his moment to get redemption for the tragic unfair loss that he had unjustly received by a bunch of inept boxing judges. This was Manny’s opportunity to show the doubters in the boxing world that his time was not yet over as he had stated. There were times when Manny seemed a bit off with his punches. His timing and accuracy were also a little off, but he kept fighting and landing many clean and effective punches on a more difficult Timothy Bradley. Bradley was more confident, used excellent defense, and tried pushing the pace early as he threw many hard shots to Manny’s head and body. Both warriors let their best punches go. Manny Pacquiao at age 35 put it all together in the final rounds and brought the fans to their feet. Was this the best Manny Pacquiao we’ve seen, probably not. Was he over trained or just simply showing signs of father time catching up. Regardless, now is the time to give Manny Pacquiao his just due. This warrior has given boxing fans some of the greatest fights in boxing history. At times it was difficult to see who was fighting harder, Manny Pacquiao or his mother Dionesia. This lady was picking up the pace as each round ended. She used every ounce of energy as she tried willing her son to victory. This was a very touching moment as we saw mother and son both trying to bring home a victory. On the other side was Timothy Bradley. A courageous fighter with a desire to win that would not quit until it was over. Timothy is a classy young man that also deserves a lot of credit. He redeemed himself by sharing his honest thoughts on the winner. He gave all that he had, and admitted it wasn’t good enough on this night. He gained a lot of fans. Where does Manny go from here? I’m not sure. Marquez? Provodnikov? Garcia? Porter? Who knows. What we do know is that Floyd Mayweather will not be next. He will forever be remembered as the fighter that robbed fight fans of a Mega Fight. Only he knows the real answers. Manny Pacquiao has fought the best of his time and beaten them all. It’s time for all fans to recognize this fierce warrior. He’s gone through tough times inside and outside the boxing ring, and he’s always come out on top. Manny Pacquiao accomplished his mission on April 12th. He now has to decide what he does from here. Both Jinkee and Manny’s high spirited want him to retire. I hope he makes the right choice himself and his family. Manny will one day be missed by everyone, trust me on this. Manny is the best!

Posted April 14, 2014 1:21 am 


mansworld

TARK the fight fell apart in 09 because of Manny listening to Arum he has and always will be the derail. Manny agreed to the testing but not 4 days before the fight? A mere 4 days killed it Manny is the one who walked away not Floyd. Now of course his line is open 24/7 he is kicking himself in the ass because he cannot make 40 million fighting anyone else. And he is 70 million in debt now he wants it no surprise. Fck Manny he shouldn’t have turned it down in 09. Floyd is winning 300 million later…

Posted April 14, 2014 1:21 am 


TARK

Pacquiao doesn’t talk about fighting Floyd only when Floyd is in camp…

He talks about it continually and will fight Floyd anytime… He has a “Floyd Line” open 24/7… He has no fear of needles otherwise he wouldn’t have tattoos… He took random OSDTing for Rios and Bradley… Random drug testing and drawing blood is old hat for Pacquiao … Everyone knows it’s not a problem for him.

Pac agreed to the venue… He agreed to the money… He agreed to everything — but every time the fight looks doable … Floyd pulls a new demand out of his ass.

Posted April 14, 2014 1:13 am 


amor

Benny, sanchez beat pac!!!???? 2 headbutts & 2 low blows dude! They had to declare it a draw. You obviously don’t know anything about boxing. You really are an entertainment. Goodnight!

Posted April 14, 2014 1:05 am 


amor

Benny, dream about what!? Lol! A fight that will never happen!? IT TAKES 4 BALLS TO CREATE A FIGHT! Floyd obviously can’t contribute! Lol!

Posted April 14, 2014 12:53 am 


Benny the Jet

Canelo would have stopped Manny in 6.

Posted April 14, 2014 12:51 am 


Benny the Jet

Pactards how many losses is enough? Skinny Hussein had Manny down for 11 seconds. Sanchez beat Manny also and was robbed so badly Arum was investigated.

Posted April 14, 2014 12:50 am 


Benny the Jet

Amor keep dreaming son keep dreaming. You boy was nearly killed by Marquez and some say he has lost all 4 times to JMM.

Posted April 14, 2014 12:49 am 


Benny the Jet

Memo to Pactards. Even Roach said Floyd is not afraid of Manny. Of course Roach also said Manny is “broke as a joke” and said Ariza was putting something suspicious in Manny’s drinks.

Posted April 14, 2014 12:47 am 


amor

Benny, pbf will always find a way to avoid pac. Just go look back at their history and pbf has long history of avoiding stiff competition. Just like what a previous poster said. Pac would agree to blood test after each round and pbf wii find a way to avoid him. Can’t blame him, with the resume like he has, enough reason to avoid pac!

Posted April 14, 2014 12:45 am 


Benny the Jet

Pacquiao v Rios was a travesty.

Posted April 14, 2014 12:44 am 


Benny the Jet

Ordinary b.s. fan you dont fool me. Pactards like to feel important thinking anyone is afraid of one of them. Ive heard actual Pacquiao fans say they hope the fight doesn’t happen because Manny will not be able to hit Floyd.

Posted April 14, 2014 12:44 am 


Boxtradamus

IF boycotting Mayweather-Maidana is a GREAT idea then boycotting Pacquiao-Rios would have been a GREATER idea.

Posted April 14, 2014 12:42 am 


Benny the Jet

Mansworld you speak the truth. Pactards like to revise the truth. Imagine if Mayweather had 5 losses and 3 by knockout. Pactards would be crying about some twisted form of discrimination that Floyd is even mentioned in the same sentence as Manny.

Posted April 14, 2014 12:41 am 


ordinary boxing fan

The only fight that matters is Floyd vs. Manny. Mayweather fans, unfortunately, for whatever reason, do not want this fight to happen.

Posted April 14, 2014 12:41 am 


Boxtradamus

The Mayweather-Pacquiao Fight is not yet ripe again. Manny has one more demon to exorcise. His name is Juan Manuel Marquez. IF he can FINALLY defeat Marquez convincingly then the Mayweather Fight will be close to the peak that it was at in 09. IF he can knock Marquez out then the Fight may surpass the peak that it was at in 09.

Posted April 14, 2014 12:39 am 


Benny the Jet

Let me be perfectly clear. No one wants Floyd to whip Manny’s ass more than me
Manny punked out of the 2010 fight over fear of needles after Floyd agreed to that silly 10 million dollar fine for each pound over 47. Manny talks about fighting Floyd AFTER he has signed to fight someone else then WHILE Floyd is in camp. Punkass chump.

Posted April 14, 2014 12:38 am 


TARK

I actually think a boycott of The Mayweather-Maidana fight is a great idea..

EVERYONE who would love to see May-Pac should boycott May-Maid.. Floyd shouldn’t be fighting the Maid. Pac was his mandatory challenger and he ducked him.

Posted April 14, 2014 12:36 am 


TARK

Cotto retired the “Master of Plaster.”

He beat the MFer up and stopped him legitimately. And the MFing cheater hasn’t fought since … and good riddance.

Posted April 14, 2014 12:31 am 


Boxtradamus

Arum should be a comedian. He wants the fans to boycott a Fight where Floyd is facing yet another World CHAMP but he SURE didn’t want them to boycott Pacquiao vs #0 P4P NON CHAMP Rios. He didn’t want them to boycott Pacquiao vs. #0 P4P NON CHAMP Clottey, #0 P4P NON CHAMP Margarto, and he didn’t want them to boycott Pacquiao vs #0 P4P NON CHAMP Mosley either. But Now that he finally puts Pacquiao into a Fight vs a Top 5 P4P Welter he all of a sudden wants to boycott NON competitive bouts…..IF the fans DID that then he’d already be out of business. SO go tell JOKES at the comedy club.

Posted April 14, 2014 12:31 am 


mansworld

Manny beat Oscar at 147 after Floyd not to mention he fought Oscar at 147 hell he hadnt fought at that weight in 10 years. He beat Cotto after Magecheato almost killed him with the plaster of Paris gloves. He beat Margecheato after Shane KOed him. Manny has a history beating guys coming off loses or dehydrated to make weight. Bradley was number 3 yes but he didnt beat the best out there either. Ruslan and Marquez, Peterson and the rest of his resume is ok, But he never fought Floyd, Danny Garcia or Shawn Porter any of these guys would have Manny and Bradleys funeral anytime…

Posted April 14, 2014 12:28 am 


TARK

Benny the jet says, “And Pac fought Cotto AFTER Margarito damaged his brain”

Cotto doesn’t have a damaged brain..

Cotto’s brain functions on a high enough level to where he popped Floyd directly in the face with his masterful left jab quite a few times… Cotto hit Floyd hard enough to where Roger had to break out the giant Q-Tips and shove them up Floyd’s nose — to mop up all the blood and stem the flow.. I mean Floyd says Cotto is the toughest fighter he ever fought for a good reason — and he fought Cotto after Pacquiao beat him up and stopped him.

This is not a good reason for Floyd not to fight Pacquiao… because you say Cotto was brain damaged. Find a better excuse.

Posted April 14, 2014 12:25 am 


WarZ

Benny the selective memory jet. He is a boxing expert. Did you know that your boy Floyd went into semi retirement to avoid Cotto and Margarito?

Posted April 14, 2014 12:23 am 


amor

Benny, judah!!!!???? You make me laugh!

Posted April 14, 2014 12:21 am 


WarZ

Benny the whiny jet is scared.

Posted April 14, 2014 12:20 am 


amor

Benny, are you an idiot or what! How long did it take pac to fight those guys after he moved up in weight!?How long did floyd take to fight those guys!? Learn your facts dude before you debate me or else you’ll just be an entertainment! GREAT RESUME HUH!? LMFAO!

Posted April 14, 2014 12:18 am 


WarZ

See the Floyd fans has no comments about urging their boy Floyd into fighting Manny. Haha. You can say whatever you want but you can’t even convince yourself to ask Floyd to fight Manny. All you think about us how to avoid the fight. All the Pacquiao fans want the fight but all the Mayweather fans are scared haha.

Posted April 14, 2014 12:18 am 


TARK

Jonn E. JaGozza…,

You can trot out 100 other guys Floyd and Pac can fight… Those aren’t the one (1) fight the fans want to see the most.

The one fight people want to see the most is May-Pac.

They want to see Floyd in a risky fight with another welterweight who has a reputation for being an ATG fighter… There is only one man keeping the fight from being made — Floyd.

Posted April 14, 2014 12:14 am 


Benny the Jet

Amor I’m cracking up. Did Floyd lose to any of them? And why did Manny fight oscar, Hatton and Mosley AFTER Floyd? And Cotto AFTER Margarito damaged his brain? And why isnt Judah on Manny’s resume? You have just been schooled chump.

Posted April 14, 2014 12:11 am 


Benny the Jet

Manny threw 563 punches. Does anyone believe he can throw a thousand any longer?

Posted April 14, 2014 12:07 am 


amor

Birdhead, you need to LAUGH dude! Go down several comments and you’ll see a list of pbf’s conquest! Thank me later! You’re welcome!

Posted April 14, 2014 12:07 am 


WarZ

Bird boy as if you an expert. If you believe Manny has no chance against Mayweather then you shouldn’t be acting like scared. Tell your boy to fight that is your assignment. Haha scaredy cat haha.

Posted April 14, 2014 12:06 am 


Help wanted

Not sure what Bradley fans saw yesterday, butwhat was dilsplayed was a boxing clinic. Manny schooled him. It wasnt old manny going for knockouts, hes off the roids. Its older wiser manny saying, im better then you and im going to take you the school.

Posted April 14, 2014 12:06 am 


birdhead

Pactards suck at boxing knowledge but are good at revising history. Manny now an undefeated 26 year old slugger who throws a thousand punches a fight.

Posted April 14, 2014 12:03 am 


birdhead

Manny ducked out of the March 2010 fight like the bakla he is.

Posted April 14, 2014 12:01 am 


birdhead

Lol Tyson funny how when guys face Floyd their punch count plummets. Or didn’t you know that?

Posted April 14, 2014 12:00 am 


birdhead

Whore Z not long ago your boy was balls first on the canvas for a 150 second count and his ugly wife was hysterical and some thought he was dead. A so so decision over a limited contender with no punch and you are once again arrogant. You know nothing about boxing you are simply on Pacquiao nuts.

Posted April 13, 2014 11:59 pm 


birdhead

Torrecampo
Singsurat
Hussein
Sanchez
Morales
Marquez
Marquez
Marquez
Bradley
Marquez

Posted April 13, 2014 11:56 pm 


WarZ

Benny the whiny jet. Haha.

Posted April 13, 2014 11:53 pm 


Benny the Jet

Everyone talks about what they will do to Floyd and no one does it. Everyone talks about what they will do to Manny and at least 5 have lol.

Posted April 13, 2014 11:52 pm 


WarZ

Tell your boy Floyd to fight Manny Benny the jet. I know you are shivering too. Haha

Posted April 13, 2014 11:51 pm 


Benny the Jet

Now that he can’t take steroids Manny can’t stop a dripping fawcet.

Posted April 13, 2014 11:50 pm 


WarZ

Stop whining suckerpunch tell your boy Floyd to fight. That is how to prove it.

Posted April 13, 2014 11:49 pm 


Benny the Jet

Lol where were Pactards back in 2010 when Manny pulled out of the fight. Hypocrite chump fans of a 5 loss fighter.

Posted April 13, 2014 11:48 pm 


WarZ

Haha. Floyd’s fans are shivering. What excuse your boy Floyd for not fighting Manny now? Maybe he wants to lose to Maidana to avoid Manny. Haha. Bring your excuses on boys.

Posted April 13, 2014 11:45 pm 


Mike Tyson

Boxtra, Floyd has never face a fight that. Crazy busy as Bradley or PAC that throw 100 punches over 1,000 punches a fight. Floyd jab will will not work . He throws about 300-400 total punches
That is about the same or less that PAC or Bradley lands. This is boxing.

Floyd fight slugger like maidana, if Floyd survived a ko he does a blow out UD because maidana not a boxer/ slugger like PAC or Bradley , why do you think maidana has 10-1 odds . Vegas isn’t dumb
No koHe lose badly Floyd untouchable UD.

Not the case with PAC or Floyd close decision

Posted April 13, 2014 11:43 pm 


lionhard

Myles, youre miles behind with your facts! youre a bonafide PACTARD….”years”?? What about the 24 day cut off date that went to 14 day cut off, then court room, building a stadium, Arum saying, Manny get “weak” from drawing blood, Arum & Roach stating Mayweather is just using this drug thing as a ploy, etc. ….Myles go throw on your PacROID CD and enjoy your night as you drink tea, and sway to the compassionate music……have a good night!!!

Posted April 13, 2014 11:36 pm 


SuckerPunch

Based on what I saw last night I have to say that Pacquiao doesn’t have “IT” anymore. That intensity and fire that made him such a force from ’03-’11. He was still good enough to handily beat a fighter who was gifted 2 of the 3 biggest wins in his career, but I don’t believe he is good enough to beat Mayweather. Sadly that ship has sailed. I believe Pacquiao would have beat Mayweather 5 years ago, but based on what I saw last night I believe that Mayweather beats him easily probably even stop him.

Posted April 13, 2014 11:34 pm 


amor

Corley, gatti, baldomir, weakminded judah, part-time boxer odlh (loses all big fights), old mosley, exposed cotto, 140# hatton at 147, 135# jmm (floyd came in overweight), slow and green canelo, guerrero, ortiz!!! I’m laughing guys!!! You would really look great fighting these guys!

Posted April 13, 2014 11:33 pm 


Mike Tyson

mansworld, Bradley is A great one, he the 3 best fight now in ranking. He did his best . PAC better . Bradley said so. So PAC is the other 1/2 champion now.and the best of top tank.
who the best fighter of GBP fighter ?

Posted April 13, 2014 11:32 pm 


Boxtradamus

Floyd has proven that he cannot be beaten by decision SO the point that Pacquiao didn’t even drop Bradley is NOT moot. The point IS that IF he were to face Mayweather then it would go to decision which means that Pacquiao has to out Box Mayweather to WIN. And he can’t DO it. That is MY point.

Posted April 13, 2014 11:32 pm 


Myles

lionhard, pacman agreed to take any test years ago. he also agreed to all of floyd’s other demands years ago. he was floyd’s mandatory challenger before floyd signed to fight maidana, and his phoneline is open 24/7. there’re no excuses dude. just chickenshatting

Posted April 13, 2014 11:25 pm 


Another sad day for Pactards

Pactrannie fights nothing but the same fighters over and over. Why didn’t Pactranny fight Delayhoya at 154 like Floyd did?????

Posted April 13, 2014 11:18 pm 


Another sad day for Pactards

At hecdog aka manny buttboy. Roy never failed a PED test. He tested positive for Ripped Fuel” at fat burner you can by at GNC.dont forget your pinky trannie got ktfo by a blown up lightweight 40 year old mexicant Floyd won every round against.

Posted April 13, 2014 11:16 pm 


Another sad day for Pactards

@ko.. Pactranny couldn’t even stop Rios. Clottey, Maracheto . Mosley. Marquez.

Posted April 13, 2014 11:12 pm 


mansworld

Bradley lacks two elements from making him great one is he abandons his game plan to outbox fighters. In this fight he was beating Manny up to the fifth round. Then he let Manny dictate he gets caught and starts trading punches like typical Latino fighters. Bradley did the same thing with Ruslan and almost got KTFO. He lacks composure and ring IQ. Not to mention it looked like he ran out of gas after about the six round that’s when Manny took over. A better trained well experienced fighter would destroy Manny. Hell Bradley had his shook a few times and rung his bell he just punched himself into fatigue by going for the KO he fought a dumb fight. Bradley needs a better trainer..

Posted April 13, 2014 11:10 pm 


Mike Tyson

enough already, it’s call cold war. Tim can’t meet GBP fighter if Floyd will not meet PAC.both side aren’t talking , well there talking but through the media. Your right both need a kick in the butts.

Posted April 13, 2014 11:07 pm 


Mike Tyson

Boxtra, your are beginning to scared me, nobody knock out Bradley, not prov, hard hook 4+ times not PAC hooks , not maidana, and espresslly not Floyd. Moot point , bud.
Only way to beat Bradley or PAC is throwing 100. Punches a round, no way can Floyd jab avoid this many crazy punches, so you Floyd can’t ko PAC or Bradley its a decision right?
A very close decision. who won we don’t know.

Posted April 13, 2014 11:04 pm 


amor

Lionhard & enough already, how’s the muscles of your tummies!? Is it cramping from laughter! You need to thank me, I just thought you needed some! You’re welcome!

Posted April 13, 2014 10:57 pm 


Mike Tyson

done deal

Doesn’t matter what you or I believe. Like I said the current P4P list has Canelo #6 and Tim #13. Soooo I guess a lot of pEcole including the so called experts think he is.

P4pList? LOL that personal views over a wide range of weight list. no belt, no glory
The belt is all that matter. Tim got the belt. Rather Tim had the belt. LOL
Canelo 10 -1 odds 100 buck buy you 1k, Tim would have been about 8-1 odds

Posted April 13, 2014 10:57 pm 


Hecdog

Martin my friend, I don’t think Manny Pacquiao was ever on anything because even as an inexperienced, young boxer, he was still knocking guys cold. This was a time when he didn’t have Ariza or any other glory hound that was talked about suspiciously. Manny has always been a natural puncher, and as he moved, fighters are better and take a better punch. If you see Manny Pacquiao up close, he has a very small physical body frame that is that of a lightweight. He’s always had very low body fat, and when you see him looking ripped, it’s not massive muscle, but lean muscle. It’s misleading because he looks bigger than he actually is. Just look at Timothy Bradley and Manny Pacquiao next to each other. Manny is lean, but Bradley is big compared to Manny yet both weigh the same. This is why i think Manny’s accomplishments are so amazing. Some people keep asking him to fight Canelo and other guys that are physically so much bigger. Manny is 35 years old while the other guys are young lions. I do wish there was mandatory testing all the way around in every state and country so there would be no doubts. Just look at guys like Mosely, James Toney, Roy Jones, Antonio Tarver and so many other top notch fighters that failed tests, and most were slept under the rug. As long as their is no Federal agency overseeing everything in boxing, there’s always going to be cheaters that are working on beating current and future testing. Marquez is fighting Alvarado, and my understanding is that there will be no testing? So I guess both can come in juiced up and the CSAC could care less. Not good for boxing.

Posted April 13, 2014 10:54 pm 


lionhard

Mayweather was SCARED to face PacROID*! and was HUMBLE enough to let it be KNOWN!! Of course he played it from the tough guy role, due to the fact he’s a fighter and wanted VERY MUCH to take out the ROID-MAN* in style! He had a right to be SCARED of a potentially ROIDED fighter! FEAR is GOOD for self preservation, because “IF” he listened to the CRY of the WILD PacTARDS he’d most likely have ended up like Gerald McClellan, Meldrick Taylor, Ali, Terry Norris & the like!! ANYONE can, with 1 punch – “get it.” With ALL the “compassion” PacROID* claims that he has, along with his adoring Pacadermics, this one thing is for SURE: They could CARE LESS what happens to Mayweather or his health – undeniable FACT!

PacROID has AGREED to take tests now! FINALLY with no cut off date – so let him quickly fight Thurman! Then this FLOYD FAN barely believes he’s EARNED his shot! As for now, let him and his geriatric greedy frog promoter fight Mayweather on their PS3. “NOTHING” is what Mayweather owes PacROID* & his ROIDettes! Long after Mayweather leaves the game; his haters will continue with their visceral, while A HEALTHY Mayweather tries to find his niche after retirement – with people that need & care about him!

The Catchweight King* did a decent job against Bradley! Bradley winged dumb one shot punches like an amateur! But I’ll admit, it was because of PacROIDS* footwork that Mr Musclebound missed so much….Good for PacROID*! Let him fight fresh prospects…..and its only Thurman that comes to mind….he (Thurman) wont allow for that self professed “compassion” to rear its sweet head! A “fighter*” that has unloaded on so many weaker DRAINED opposition, is all of a sudden filled with “compassion,” AND is STILL in the game…..with a GREEDY promotor no less!! Wow! what a contradiction!!

And its AMAZING to me that PACROID* has only taken RBtesting for ONE opponent in his ENTIRE career: Rios! The PACTARDS will continue to say he’s never tested positive with the standard boxing commission testing. My question is: If the standard tests are good enough for the Test Avoiding King* and his minions, why is it he went with VADA testing for ONE fight ONLY, against a light SLOW POKE that had his former strength coach (Ariza) in the opposite corner!??? The PacTARDS will somehow bring “compassion” into the evaluation or ……wow!!!

Posted April 13, 2014 10:51 pm 


Boxtradamus

Pacquiao couldn’t even drop Bradley in 24 rounds. He’d better not even THINK about facing Mayweather.

Posted April 13, 2014 10:51 pm 


enough already

Bradley is to one dimensional he has no adjustments and he cannot punch no surprise Manny beats him. Manny needs bigger fights and I am not talking about Marquez he needs to loose his leash and fight Floyd, Danny Garcia or even Malinaggi no one even bother paying to see him fight Bradley. And hell who has Tim really beat worth talking about Ruslan and 40 year old Marquez this fight was a joke….

Posted April 13, 2014 10:48 pm 


amor

Enough already, go down a few comments and you’ll find a list of pbf’s conquest! It will make you laugh! Hahaha!

Posted April 13, 2014 10:47 pm 


whatever

mayrunner will never fight manny because he knows he will lose.

Posted April 13, 2014 10:44 pm 


enough already

Its funny how Manny beat. Oscar, Cotto, Mosley, Hatton and all after they had big losses. But when Floyd beat all the same guys after they were coming off wins they were cherry picked lol? Manny beat Bradley but it was no big surprise he beat him the first time and yes the judges fouled him. Manny is reduced to fighting Bradley and Marquez over and over while crying to fight Floyd knowing dam well no one will deal with his management team ran by Arum Floyd should put his ethics aside deal with Arum and fight Manny? For what who does it benefit?

Posted April 13, 2014 10:41 pm 


Goomba

Haimat- Yeah, the talk about Floyd being the GOAT is ridiculous. I don’t let it bother me.

Posted April 13, 2014 10:25 pm 


Brodes

Floyd should not be aloud to fight anyone other then manny. The only Floyd fight I’ll ever buy again will have to involved the pacman of my money stays with me. Boxing belongs to the fans. Give us what we want!!

Posted April 13, 2014 10:15 pm 


Havoc

Imagine Floyd losing to a Filipino icon!

Posted April 13, 2014 10:05 pm 


Old Coot

Manny could agree to give bloodtest before EACH round, and Floyd would still make up a new excuse, like his mom can’t come to the fight to put Catholic voodoo on Floyd. LOL!!

Posted April 13, 2014 9:57 pm 


Havoc

If Floyd and Manny fights….do you really honestly believe that any of all that is involve will be losing money? Dang, it will be the richest and biggest fight in boxing history! Who ever is ducking who I’m pretty sure he is just scared that he will be embarras if he lose! Plain scared!

Posted April 13, 2014 9:56 pm 


Old Coot

Manny could join TMT and Floyd STILL would have excuses.

Posted April 13, 2014 9:56 pm 


Old Coot

Floyd won’t fight Manny for al the money on Earth!

Posted April 13, 2014 9:55 pm 


amor

Lionhard, go down a few comments and you’ll see a list of pbf conquest! It might make you laugh! Lol!

Posted April 13, 2014 9:55 pm 


Havoc

Boycott a boring garbage fight! Done!

Posted April 13, 2014 9:52 pm 


Bird

I wouldn’t want to put money in the pockets of someone I have or had issues with. nobody but arum and Floyd really know what their beef is or was, so we should respect that.

Posted April 13, 2014 9:52 pm 


Havoc

Lionhard: only 4 fights! Bwahahahaha…….he lose to Khan and then won 4 fights!!!!!! Nice! Keep fooling yourself and believe all the garbage Maynever is feeding you!

Posted April 13, 2014 9:51 pm 


lionhard

This GREEDY old man is trying to take money out of Mayweather pockets because he wont fight HIS fighter! What type of greedy lowdown crap is that!! Mayweather is 37 fighting a prime 30yr old, a 30yr old that has just won 4 fights and has gotten better as a fighter. Arum once again is belittling Mayweather, he never dreamed Mayweather would reach the status he has. This is the reason Mayweather left this condescending greedy fish! Never have I heard of a promoter staging something like this!!

NOTHING is what Team-Mayweather owes Team-PACROID! Mayweather agreed to fight the guy in his prime, but the previous HYPOCRITE (I’ll be nice he’s “probably” changed to some degree) REFUSED rbtesting! Let PacROID give Thurman & Porter shots instead of this merry go round recycled cornmeal crap!
Is Arum allowed to do this crap!? I’ll NEVER pay to see anything from this leach.

Posted April 13, 2014 9:47 pm 


Fanboy Floydiots are Fools

you Floydiots are so stupid its beyond ridiculous. floyd and haymon have pulled the covers over your eyes and youre too damn stupid to see the plain the simple truth. slow as molasses maidana doesnt belong in the same ring with floyd. just because he beat that clown broner and took his paper title doesnt mean hes one of the best available opponents. broner lost to paulie and marcos so totally sucks and is one of the biggest hype jobs in boxing.

floyd should be fighting the best, but believes in taking lowest risk for highest reward. but u retarded Floydiots will shell out your welfare and drug dealin cash to see this garbage because youre mindless nuthuggers. blinded by being star struck fanboys like a bunch of overgrown jr. high kids. but keep making floyd stinkin rich while he continues to duck the best fighters in the world. why hes so damn afraid of a little asian lightweight if he so great?

Posted April 13, 2014 9:43 pm 


Havoc

Te tumbo aka PutangInamoPacqiuoa is missing in action here, I wonder why? Hopefully he didn’t bet all his walfare money against his fellow Filipino and commit suicide!

Posted April 13, 2014 9:41 pm 


Havoc

BHop vs. Mayweather! It will be a starring, showboating contest!

Posted April 13, 2014 9:37 pm 


Floyd’s issue

@poor pacturds, Arum is not a slave owner, Pac chooses to work with him. And, Arum does not want to own Floyd, he just wants to make a fcking deal, a business. People make business deals with their enemies all the time, Floyd is just being a mega dick, and so are you my friend, except you are also an antisemit and a racist because you bring up that Arum is Jewish. Don’t do that. Don King was not Jewish, but he exploited fifghters much more, his “brothers” which Arum never did. Arum does the job of a promoter, protecting his interest AND the interest of his fighter. He makes fights that are available and to make money, that’s what he does. Floyd is just an as*hole…

Posted April 13, 2014 9:36 pm 


Auzbox

Porter LMAO manny has been bashing him for years. Manny the second best draw in boxing . Better than canelo. Garcia not even ppv worthy you fool haha manny beat a top 3 p4p guy who is floyd fighting? Is he ranked in the top 100 cause usually they are not. BOOM

Posted April 13, 2014 9:35 pm 


Havoc

Floyd wants GB mediocre topdogs which are B level at best! Floyd fighting rejects and hype up wanna be greats! No quality fight! Lemon! Snoozefest! No KO only limiting the action to almost zero! Everybody and anybody can fight Floyd! No bruises no injuries, only tired of chasing him around. Bernard Hopkins can do better and still active at age 50!

Posted April 13, 2014 9:34 pm 


Auzbox

Bradley was 1 ranked welter you idiot. Your just a hater. Your obviously a clown because they are with golden boy maybe that’s why. Manny has beaten everyone along the way. Better resume than floydie boy

Posted April 13, 2014 9:33 pm 


Havoc

Floyd is scared to tap top fighters of top rank azz. Floyd don’t want anything to do with Top Rank. He is just plain scared!

Posted April 13, 2014 9:28 pm 


longsky

It’s just now that I realized pacman’s body is that of a lightweight but its lean..when I saw Bradley raise his hands – I saw two muscular hands that could knock pacman down easily as marquez did..

Posted April 13, 2014 9:26 pm 


Anonymous

“when both greats will be aged 38 and 36 respectively; with Floyd being the older man.”

How about, “when the greats will be 36 and 38, with Floyd being the older man,” since both are not 38 and 36 respectively.

Posted April 13, 2014 9:25 pm 


amor

Corley, gatti, baldomir, weakminded judah, odlh ( loses all big fights), old mosley, 140# hatton at 147, 135# jmm (btw pbf came overwt), leftover cotto, slow & green canelo, guerrero, ortiz!? What is so great about this bunch!!!??? NONE! No wonder pbf looks so great!!! LMFAO!

Posted April 13, 2014 9:24 pm 


longsky

I like the post of Martin and Hecdog.. very objective and scientific observation

Posted April 13, 2014 9:22 pm 


enough already

No surprise Manny beat Bradley he beat him the first time but he pissed off the judges by making them wait so they gave it to Tim. Bradley is one dimensional and he cannot make adjustments not to mention he has no punch. Manny needs to fight the best out there not Bradley and Marquez over and over enough already…

Posted April 13, 2014 9:17 pm 


Brooklyn’s Finest.

Bob Arum can go to hell. He sold you pac fanatics a fight versus Brandon Rios, a slow boxer from a lower weight class who lost his last fight, just like he sold you guys when pac fought Margarito who just got his ass handed to him by Mosley. Look it up. But he want to boycott Floyd who is fighting a legit champion fighter coming off 3 consecutive great performances. GTFOH. if you want to hate Floyd then hate him, but unlike pac he fights winners not people who just lost their fights.

Posted April 13, 2014 9:16 pm 


poor pacturds

Floyd’s issue fck you. ESPN analyst said the other day that it is wrong for one man to have that much power speaking of Floyd. He decides who he wants to fight. Manny fight who he is told. The powers that be hate for a black man to be that powerful Floyd runs boxing and its not right? But its ok for Jews and whites to be powerful? Fck Manny and the Philippines. Floyd has guys lining up willing to do whatever to make the fight happen. Arum is like a slave owner wanting Floyd to bow down anti-semi all you want facts remain Manny needs Floyd, Floyd on the other hand can make a billion dollars before he retires without ever having to step in the ring with Manny. So what is the benefit? Bragging rights he is already in the boxing hall of fame

Posted April 13, 2014 9:11 pm 


Hidalg0

“Manny needs to ditch Arum so Floyd can tap his ass to shut you tards up once and for all.”

Teflon, you’re an idiot.

Posted April 13, 2014 9:07 pm 


teflon

Azzbox what about guys like. Maidana, Danny Garcia, Floyd and Canelo? Bradley nor Manny has faced the best out there. You fcking retarded if you thing Ruslan or Marquez the 40 year old Mexican who KTFO your boy Manny is the best comp out there. Hell Thurman and Shawn Porter make more noise than these ass clowns, Manny and Bradley fight was a flop, Manny needs to ditch Arum so Floyd can tap his ass to shut you tards up once and for all. Hell Bradley feather fisted almost dropped him last night…

Posted April 13, 2014 9:01 pm 


Auzbox

I tell you who Bradley is, he is ten times better than maidana and would never be beaten by a bum like khan either

Posted April 13, 2014 9:01 pm 


Floyd’s issue

@ poor pacturds, Floyd is not going to fight Arum, he is going to fight Pac in the ring for fck sake. Floyd is greedy, he gives his opponents good money and makes 5x as much.
By the wat, you are a antis-semit. Go fck yourself you racist. Arum has promoted fights of Ali, when Floyd was in diapers. Floyd is just a greedy little midget who makes excuses…

Posted April 13, 2014 8:56 pm 


Auzbox

Oh poor pacturd now you discredit pacs win. Your an idiot plain and simple. Bradley was ranked 3 p4p. Floyd doesn’t fight guys in the top 10. And he beat Marquez and Provo guys that are better then floyds current fights. You were wrong so suck it up your a dead set imbecile

Posted April 13, 2014 8:51 pm 


Auzbox

Where’s largo and mansworld

Posted April 13, 2014 8:49 pm 


poor pacturds

This fight could have been happened if it wasnt for Arum. Right now he is trying to work leverage again because he has none. Manny beating Bradley proves what? Tim was undefeated because he fought a bunch of nobodies. Manny because of Arum walked away from the fight in 09 Floyd called Manny personally and offered him 40 million and he walked away because of the drug testing. Floyd is not the one making excuses. He makes 150 million a year Manny on the other hand is broke and stuck to fighting a bunch of Arums guys who are no big draws. Hell the Bradley II fight was a flop. Now they will have Marquez 5 another flop, Hell boycott all you want Floyd vs. Maidana is already a sell out enough said who needs who? No surprise he beat a one demtional fighter who cant punch no surprise his Jew Master would try to talk sht to hype his boy up. Floyd dont need Manny he can fight Maidana, Kahn and Danny Garcia without bowing to Arum. Manny is just caught in the middle he needs to ditch top rape. There is too much bad blood between Arum and Floyd. Mayweather made 300 million + after leaving top rank. Manny needs to do the same…

Posted April 13, 2014 8:44 pm 


Old Coot

Bottom line… Floyd avoids fleet-footed, fighters with fast hands, power, and stamina, who can run him down, such PACQUIAO, or Bradley. Floyd will only basically fight two types of opponents. 1. Those with stamina issues such as Judah, and the over-trained, overly-eager and older, Mosley, or 2. Mainly immobile opponents that he can keep at a distance and pot-shot, such as Gatti, Marquez, Guerrero, Alvarez etc… Fighters with lead feet. However he misjudged Cotto, who turned out to be a bit mor fleet-footed than Floyd expected.

Posted April 13, 2014 8:42 pm 


Floyd’s issue

@ Jonn E. JaGozza, your logic is wrong. Ali would have never fought Foreman because he had a defeat on his record. Bradley would have never fought Pac, because he had a defeat on his record….
Losing a fight is a matter of time. Pac had over 60 fights, and lost a few times, so what. Mayweather doesn’t have 50. He is a cherrypicker.
Pac is an amazing ATG. Floyd can not build his legacy alone on the “0″. You are wrong…

Posted April 13, 2014 8:40 pm 


Havoc

Boycott!!!!!!!!!!whos with me and Bob?

Posted April 13, 2014 8:38 pm 


Floyd’s issue

PEEJ, you should go into shame and not comment on here for 3 months. You were beyond wrong, belittled Pac, said he would get knocked out. Pac just beat the #3 lb for lb. He is a great boxer, even if he is no longer in his prime. Bradley did really well, great fighter, just not in Pac’s class, Pac is better, he is the superior boxer. He fatigued Bradley through his intensity and movement. Bradley again hurt his legs.
Pac deserves to fight Mayweather, even if he loses, he will give us more excitement than any other Mayweather opponent. The problem is May needs psychotherapy before fighting him, he is afraid like a sissy.
Again, disappear or shut up for 3 months and crawl back on this website in shame. Loser…

Posted April 13, 2014 8:37 pm 


amor

JaGozza, does time even matter to you? Pbf & pac fighting other boxers doesn’t matter at the moment! It might when one of them is no longer active. If only pbf would stop making excuses. Wishful thinking! Lol!

Posted April 13, 2014 8:36 pm 


Tim

You have to be honest and truthful, Arum has a solid point. Why should PBF fight Pac when he’s making millions and millions elsewhere? I just wish certain people would stop saying it’s Pac or saying it’s Arum who is holding this fight back. Both Pac and Arum made it crystal clear that a fight CAN happen if PBF and team would just sit down to negotiate. Folks, it doesn’t get much more clear than that so please stop with the excuses.

Posted April 13, 2014 8:35 pm 


Joe

“F” Bernard Hopkins he is a bigot racist greedy dirty fighter

Posted April 13, 2014 8:29 pm 


john smith

Blacks were known athletic but those midgets have a heart of the lions ……. not an ostrich …baboon hahahah

Posted April 13, 2014 8:28 pm 


Floyd’s issue

Floyd being afraid is part of his character. He is a vein little criminal with amazing boxing talent, still hard to respect this guy…

Posted April 13, 2014 8:24 pm 


At the end of the day….

Considering race and physical stature as compared to Floyd versus Pacquiao, black people physically are bigger than asians so Floyd always hold an advantage over Pacquiao in terms of physical stature. It’s like a 6th grader vs 8th grader. But why even the disparity in size in which Floyd has the advantage still not sure why Floyd won’t fight a physically smaller guy in Pacquiao? Is Floyd really that afraid to fight pacquiao?

Posted April 13, 2014 8:13 pm 


Lenny

Just like Bernard Hopkins could not beat the best Roy Jones 1 and Calzaghe he will never be looked as a great, just a clean up man for sub par fighters. Floyd will never be looked at as great not fighting Pacquiao. In my opinion Castillo beat Floyd already

Posted April 13, 2014 8:12 pm 


E

Done deal – your arguments about Floyd dominTing Marquez who then knocked out pacquio has no relevance, pacquio demolished cotto, Floyd did not do the same and a way past his prime cotton gave PBF a reasonable test, pacman destroyed ODH, PBF went 12 rounds and won on points, pacman destroyed Hatton in two rounds, PBF took 8-9 rounds. Pacquio fought guys at their prime, not like mayweather – as previous commentator pointed out he has fought most guys well past their prime, avoided the biggest threats at the time from Mosley to margariito (who was most avoided fighter at this time), made Canelo seriously weight drained below 154 (canelo has no right fighting at junior middleweight by the way, so when he weighed in at 152 on the weigh in he would have been f***ed).
Mayweather is a defensive genius, he adapts like a chess master, but he is not an aggressive and action packed fighter. A prime pacquio would have been a stern test as the number of punches he used to throw would have caught PBF and it’s the angles he used to punch from would have been very difficult to avoid.
People may be reading to much into pacquio’s decline. He has fought many counter punchers in the last few years bar rios. He has had to adapt his style after the Marquez knock out. Let’s not forget he just beat another elite, undeafeted, possibly in the top 5 p4p listings with consummate ease last night. That’s says something.

pS – done deal – pac man just beat Bradley who beat Marquez who beat pacman – you see my point!

Posted April 13, 2014 8:09 pm 


At the end of the day….

Sure Floyd and fans can say he is the greatest and is unbeaten and can even beat Pacquiao, but at the end of the day, Floyd still has to prove he can beat Pacquiao and register a win against him. Until Floyd has beaten Pacquiao in a real match in the ring (not mind expiriment match), then Floyd can truly say he has beaten Pacquiao and won, but what the heck is Floyd doing? He wont even fight Pacquiao and he claim he can beat him and he is the greatest? Until Floyd has registered a win against Pac, Floyd can say all that otherwise at the end of the day, Floyd must deal with reality and walk the talk. Talk is cheap if you can’t back it with a real win.

Posted April 13, 2014 8:00 pm 


E

Martin – you analysis is fantastic and you are spot on.

The difference is characther between the two is wide:

Manny has used his fame and wealth to try and alleviate poverty and as a result is hero worshipped do adored. This is the reason why so many people in and out of boxing have so much respect for him, the guy transcends the sport.

PBF on the other hand is revilved as you say and this is where he makes his money from. His huge PPV ratings of the past have not arisen from his fan base, they have come from the Mexican fan bases/other fans desperately wanting to see him lose, he personally does not have the popularity that ODH had, or Canelo is creating, Hatton had or what Pacman has, he desperately wants this but his lifestyle choices and squandering of wealth will never allow him to do this. I also think that within a few years of retiring he will squander his wealth as it is apparent from the way he loves his lifestyle now.

Posted April 13, 2014 7:54 pm 


amor

Corley, gatti, baldomir, weakminded judah, odlh (loses all big fights), old mosley, exposed cotto, slow & green canelo, ortiz, guerrero, jmm from 135#! Top notch!? NOT BY A LONG SHOT!!! It would have been respectable if he had fought tzyu & prime mosley! No wonder he looks great!!! Lol!

Posted April 13, 2014 7:53 pm 


The Prince

Sorry, Bob, but Floyd’s upcoming fight will sell quite well. Because rather you love him or hate him, Mayweather is a great boxing talent and people want to be their if or when another fighters gets lucky enough to finally hand him his first loss. And thank Pacquiao for that. His second win over Bradley just made that a promise for May 3rds success.

Posted April 13, 2014 7:46 pm 


E

Bottom line – pacquio is the better & aggressive “fighter” as in someone who comes to fight in the simplest sense, whereas mayweather is the better boxer. They have very different styles and depending on what attributes are being compared either man can be seen to be better. Ultimately what fans truly enjoy is a proper dust up, yes there are fans who appreciate ring craft but to the masses, it’s about an action packed fight and that’s what PAC man used to bring. PBF has not been in the same type of wars as Manny and that’s why he still has the reflexes and speed at his age, but he is can be dull to watch, bit like rigondeux

Posted April 13, 2014 7:42 pm 


Old Coot

Hey Floyd… Enough of your convenient excuses really for why the fight can’t happen… Just step up and shut we Manny fans up, and collect the biggest payday in history, already? Seems to me that’s what anyone calling himself The MONEY Team, would do, regardless of any supposed ‘reasons’, not to… Besides, since you claim to be the defensive GOAT, you should have shut us up and and cemented your legacy, more than five years ago… Because after all, no fighter (not even Manny) can hurt what he can’t hit… RIGHT?

Posted April 13, 2014 7:35 pm 


BEARS

***false BEARS ip needs banned.

i seen the zab fight vs floyd yes. the reason pac would be a great stylistic matchup (even more so 3 years ago when he was warpathing) is because of footwork creating angles combined with multiple punches.

mayweather is great and seeing one shot maybe two but not with 3 or 4 or 5 or 6 and pac adds a different dimension. he is not stationary throwing these combos he is all over the place with his footwork as he unleashes thise combos he is coming from all kinds if angles moving.

he is no like the slow stationary baldomirs, guereeros, ortizs, etc. pac even got bradley stuck on the ropes multiple times. i mark it two wins for pac vs bradley.

Posted April 13, 2014 7:32 pm 


TARK

done deal… That’s total BS… You’re buying Floyd’s BS.

Floyd doesn’t want to take any risks of being beaten. He’s a damned coward when it comes to protecting that precious “0″ and will never fight Lara either.

Posted April 13, 2014 7:30 pm 


Old Coot

@ Done deal: Say what you want, but most people know Mayweather has found every trick in the book to try to make it look like it’s really Pacquiao who’s avoided the fight… However, the hard truth is none of your BS arguments can never change the fact that Mayweather has not proven his undefeated record could ever include, any wins over Pacquiao… PERIOD!… END OF STORY!!

Posted April 13, 2014 7:26 pm 


Anonymous

Floyd DID NOT give up 26 lbs….the difference was between the two was only 3lbs. What canelo weighed the night of the fight makes no difference because the did not train at that weight thereby making any advantage negligible. Moreover, floyd has never fought for a 154lb title at 154….where title fights are supposed to take place but in floyds case, he fights for these titles at 150 or 51. Had he fought for them at 154 AND won…..he’d get a whole lot more credit.

Posted April 13, 2014 7:20 pm 


amor

Done deal, jmm would look like a clown if he complains about it now or decades from now because he got compensated and signed to go on with the fight! What is embarrassing is coming in overweight to fight a guy coming up 2 divisions, right!?

Posted April 13, 2014 7:16 pm 


done deal

@ Amor

His comments were more than a year after the fight my guy. Lol.

Posted April 13, 2014 7:09 pm 


amor

Done deal, jmm was in no position to complain about the weight because he was compensated for it. Pls get your facts straight. Canelo is no threat to anybody with movement like I said. Although he will become a more well rounded fighter yrs from now. The night he fought pbf? It didn’t matter how much wt he was in because pbf didn’t go there to knock him out!

Posted April 13, 2014 7:07 pm 


done deal

@ Tark

I think both fighters have made excuses. Manny can say he wants to fight all day. When it was on the table at the beginning he said no to a lot of things. After the initial try Floyd said no to a lot of things. Fact is the fight is really between Arum walk ass and PBF.

Posted April 13, 2014 7:02 pm 


done deal

@ Amor

He knocked Manny out at the same weight and also said that the weight did not play a factor is his loss to Floyd. Also said there was no point in a rematch as we all seen what happened in the first fight. Marquez words. Was Floyd brave for giving up 26 pounds to Canelo? I bet not in your eyes right?

Posted April 13, 2014 6:59 pm 


TARK

Noboyd is arguing that Pac is better than Floyd… The fact is, Pacquiao has been the most logical opponent for Floyd for many years … and Floyd has been very cowardly about facing him, making up every excuse he can possibly find.

Posted April 13, 2014 6:58 pm 


amor

Done deal, the guy that was dominated & embarassed by floyd came up from 135# and yet floyd came in overwt! Very brave huh!? Pbf has to grow balls!

Posted April 13, 2014 6:56 pm 


done deal

Hell I was 70/30 in favor a Pac against Tim. Still wanted to see it. Terrible under cards though.

Posted April 13, 2014 6:56 pm 


lman

And btw, 80/20 is me being respectful to Maidana.

Posted April 13, 2014 6:54 pm 


lman

I watched PAC vs Bradley 2 live at the local pub for free and thats was a 50/50 fight, sure as heck wont be paying to watch a 80/20 fight when Floyd and Maidana get it on, in fact if Im happy to watch the replay if I have better things to do that day.

Posted April 13, 2014 6:53 pm 


done deal

Check Boxrec.com

Posted April 13, 2014 6:49 pm 


done deal

Canelo is also the third biggest draw in the sport behind Pac and a floyd, but like you say he’s not taken that serious by boxing fans lol.

Posted April 13, 2014 6:49 pm 


Ayatollah Khan

@done deal

Don’t lie Ring P4P has Bradley 3rd and Canelo 9th and that is way too high for Canelo considering his mediocre resume, almost as overrated as Broner was. If you have to lie to support your argument I would suggest you have failed spectacularly.

Posted April 13, 2014 6:47 pm 


done deal

@ Khan

Yours is the same. You make excuses and double standards to support Pac like in your previous statement. Yeah Pac destroyed them and Pac also got knocked out by a guy that dominated and embarrassed by PBF.

Posted April 13, 2014 6:47 pm 


amor

Anybody with movement can beat canelo. That’s why floyd took him out already before he develops into a well rounded fighter. With bradley’s granite chin? Easy UD for tim!

Posted April 13, 2014 6:42 pm 


mex

Canelo vs Lara …July…it’s on!!!!*,

Posted April 13, 2014 6:40 pm 


done deal

And yes I do think Canelo is a better boxer than Tim. I have much respect for Tim though because all he does is win, just like Danny Garcia. I picked him to lose to Pac yesterday and thought he lost the first fight by wide margin.

Posted April 13, 2014 6:40 pm 


done deal

Doesn’t matter what you or I believe. Like I said the current P4P list has Canelo #6 and Tim #13. Soooo I guess a lot of pEcole including the so called experts think he is.

Posted April 13, 2014 6:38 pm 


done deal

Hell the current P4P list has Canelo #6 and Tim #13.

Posted April 13, 2014 6:35 pm 


done deal

And Andre Ward is P4P #2

Posted April 13, 2014 6:33 pm 


done deal

@ Khan

Canelo was P4P top 5 before losing to Floyd. He is still to this day considered a better fighter is more repeated than Tim. Pac also gets praise for betting a weight drained Oscar and Cotto, but Floyd is discredited for beating Canelo due to a catch weight huh?

Posted April 13, 2014 6:33 pm 


RAHEEM250

Bob Arum is a joke that recycles the same fights over and over again and he has the nerve to tell someone to boycott Mayweather’s next matchup. Man I’ve heard it all. I am one that will buy a good payperview if the matchup is good to great. Pac vs Bradley II did not appeal to me as being good or great for my hard earned cash.

Now on the flip side of the coin, I am no Mayweather fan, however Maidana vs Mayweather is a good matchup that I will pay for. Its not recycled and both Maidana and Mayweather are going to bring it. Plain and simple!

Posted April 13, 2014 6:29 pm 


Ayatollah Khan

Bradley is a far better win, I had him number 2 P4P. I didn’t have Canelo in the top 10 and Floyd weight drained him to put the icing on the cake nicely, just compare their resumes and say Canelo is as good as Bradley with a straight face. I had Trout beating Canelo.

Posted April 13, 2014 6:27 pm 


done deal

@ khan

Tim is not a bigger win for Manny than Canelo was for Floyd. Even Diego Corrales was more feared and respected than Tim in his prime. Tim is a he’ll of a fighter though.

Posted April 13, 2014 6:23 pm 


Hecdog

Martin my friend, I don’t think Manny Pacquiao was ever on anything because even as an inexperienced, young boxer, he was still knocking guys cold. This was a time when he didn’t have Ariza or any other glory hound that was talked about suspiciously. Manny has always been a natural puncher, and as he moved, fighters are better and take a better punch. If you see Manny Pacquiao up close, he has a very small physical body frame that is that of a lightweight. He’s always had very low body fat, and when you see him looking ripped, it’s not massive muscle, but lean muscle. It’s misleading because he looks bigger than he actually is. Just look at Timothy Bradley and Manny Pacquiao next to each other. Manny is lean, but Bradley is big compared to Manny yet both weigh the same. This is why i think Manny’s accomplishments are so amazing. Some people keep asking him to fight Canelo and other guys that are physically so much bigger. Manny is 35 years old while the other guys are young lions. I do wish there was mandatory testing all the way around in every state and country so there would be no doubts. Just look at guys like Mosely, James Toney, Roy Jones, Antonio Tarver and so many other top notch fighters that failed tests, and most were slept under the rug. As long as their is no Federal agency overseeing everything in boxing, there’s always going to be cheaters that are working on beating current and future testing. Marquez is fighting Alvarado, and my understanding is that there will be no testing? So I guess both can come in juiced up and the CSAC could care less. Not good for boxing.

Posted April 13, 2014 6:19 pm 


Ayatollah Khan

To be fair, an argument can be made that Bradley is a better win than anyone on Floyd’s resume (and Pacman is 4 or 5 years past his prime).

Now we have to suffer Maidana, another garbage fight that nobody wanted.

Posted April 13, 2014 6:18 pm 


done deal

@Lady girl

Let’s go fight for fight. Floyd has 19 current or former world champs on his resume. 9 HOF fighters. 7 of his opponents were top 10 P4P when he beat them. Floyds opponent win lose % is 71.87%. Pac man 58.64%. Numbers for ass. Your turn

Posted April 13, 2014 6:17 pm 


Old Coot

First Mayweather concocted nonsense about PEDs, then it was his off the wall and totally unreasonable, purse-split demands, now it’s because Manny won’t leave Arum?… All this for Mayweather to hide his obvious fear of Pacquiao.

Posted April 13, 2014 6:13 pm 


SuckerPunch

There was nothing close about that fight.

Posted April 13, 2014 6:06 pm 


PEEJ

Yes the red missed a knockdown. Ok. Fact is he still only won 2 of the first 4. Congrats. Is that an accomplishment now. Just winning a couple rounds. Zab showed he was a front runner against Garcia and Spinks also huh. Fact is Floyd made the necessary adjustment and put it on Zab and was on his way to a stoppage if it wasn’t for the low blow and hit behind the head combo. All that aggression Pac has gets him beat

Posted April 13, 2014 6:05 pm 


Manny “Fighter of Floyd’s prime decade” Pacquiao

Pac hurt Bradley like 4 times Tim’s in great shape so when he looked slow it was because Pac buzzed him pretty good. Bradley has a granite chin so he was able to deal with Pacs power I promise you the reason why Floyd hasn’t fought Pac is because he wont absorb those shots well and Pac will land them. Floyd fights so defensively because he doesn’t absorb shots well Mosley had him on noodle legs with shot that other fighters absorbed with no problem and the Mosley Floyd fought was faded and off peds. Cotto busted Floyds nose with a jab when was the last time Cotto did that to someone. Floyd also had ribs broken in a fight at l.w the dude is fragile and Pac has the best physical tools to take advantage of Floyds lack of physical toughness. Pac certainly showed that he can land the left flush on a slick boxer looking to avoid the left When Pac lands on Floyd he wont absorb them as well as Bradley did that a fact..

Posted April 13, 2014 6:03 pm 


PEEJ

Mike Tyson I have already come on here and congratulated Pac for his win. What else you want me to say? I already acknowledged that I picked wrong. I don’t go in hiding nor do I back track. Yes I was wrong and Pac won in a close fight but he clearly won.

Posted April 13, 2014 6:02 pm 


BBM

This fight will happen!! Floyd knows what he’s doing and it will be his last fight of his career, not because he thinks Manny will beat him, but because it’s going to be the biggest grossing payday in boxing EVER, what a great retirement plan, ain’t no way MANNY will beat him. One sided fight with MANNY being out boxed all night long.

Posted April 13, 2014 6:02 pm 


Sweet_Scientist

Every Floyd hater talks about Pacquiao like he’s the older fighter. There’s only a couple of reasons why Pacquiao has lost his KO ability?

Posted April 13, 2014 5:51 pm 


Lady Girl

done deal gtfoh. You are a clown. Floyds resume better than pacs. Ok. LOL

Posted April 13, 2014 5:47 pm 


Jim Poor

“Jim Rich” Are you ready to retire now that you bet your house and your wealth to Bradley???

Posted April 13, 2014 5:43 pm 


done deal

@ Jim

Floyd has fought more champs and P4P ranked fighters than Manny or any body else in the sport. That’s not opinion that’s Fact.

Posted April 13, 2014 5:34 pm 


TARK

PEEJ.., “Zab was not beating Floyd after 4 rounds.”

Let’s be real.. Zab actually did better through 4 rounds.. because he scored a knockdown that wasn’t counted.. The referee did Floyd a big favor because the glove touch was obvious.. Good officiating and Zab is ahead after 4 — because Zab popped Floyd with a surprising number of punches through 4.

Zab is a fast southpaw—but he’s a front runner who lacks heart, toughness, smarts, and endurance. Every time Zab has a good opponent, such as Clottey, Cotto, Baldomir, Garcia, Floyd, or Tszyu he loses.

Pac is a fast southpaw who has all the attributes Judah lacks in spades. Pac would bring a damned tough fight for Floyd and he knows it… In fact, Bradley is unbeaten except for his two Pacquiao fights, so Tim would be a much tougher fight for Floyd than slow assed, wide open swinger Maidana — or the super punchable target Khan.

Posted April 13, 2014 5:32 pm 


done deal

@ pop kins

The argument does because styles make fights and the two toughest challenges Manny has had have been with 2 counter punchers. Who best counter puncher in the sport? PBF

Posted April 13, 2014 5:31 pm 


done deal

Yeah Pac don’t need Floyd and Floyd don’t need Pac. Highest paid boxer ever, #1 boxing attraction, P4P #1 in sport. That’s PBF not Pac. If they both retired right now. Floyd goes down ahead of Pac in boxing history.

Posted April 13, 2014 5:29 pm 


done deal

Also funny how Floyd haters completely ignore “I’m scared of needles and no random drug testing” Manny Pacquio

Posted April 13, 2014 5:26 pm 


Anonymous

Floyd dont want none of pac. He would rather face slow as- maidana

Posted April 13, 2014 5:25 pm 


Swedish Boxing Fan

I have boycott ALL fights of Floyd Mayweather Jr. I have never spent a single dime or care for him as he is just a greedy little man cherry picking his opponents and trash-talks the ones that is a thret to him.

So this time I agree again and will continue so

Posted April 13, 2014 5:18 pm 


Popkins

@ iceman … An icy cool response from the iceman:)

Posted April 13, 2014 5:13 pm 


jim

Floyd will never fight Tim Bradley either! Oh wait, he’s lost now and got beat up by Provodnikov too, so yep, Floyd….you know…

Posted April 13, 2014 5:10 pm 


iceman

@proud african

same reason Floyd is avoiding Andre ward.

Posted April 13, 2014 5:08 pm 


Proud African

Why is Pac avoiding Canelo?

Posted April 13, 2014 5:04 pm 


Popkins

Done deal… Your Marquez argument doesn’t hold up. Manny beat Hatton, Oscar, Mosley and Cotto all more impressively than Floyd. And Bradley outboxed JMM, yet Manny whipped Bradley twice.

Posted April 13, 2014 5:00 pm 


Roman

The Pacman don’t need Floyd Mayweather. Couple more fights, three, whatever, bow out at the top, Manny! Over and out. Chat to you’s another time!

Posted April 13, 2014 4:53 pm 


iceman

@donedeal

I don’t think Manny would win now but he still represents the best challenge at 147. I just want to see the best fight the best.

Posted April 13, 2014 4:51 pm 


Roman

Floyd won a very tight decision over 34 year old Oscar. Manny would have given Floyd even more problems and Floyd and his team knew it! I give them a lot of credit for NOT being dumb, LOL!

Posted April 13, 2014 4:49 pm 


done deal

Don’t understand how anyone feels that Pac would bear PBF when he struggles with Marquez and doesn’t look impressive vs Bradley. PBF is bigger, faster, stronger, smarter, and overall much better than both golf those fighters. That’s a fact. If Pac struggled and got knocked out by a counter puncher like Marquez Floyd would handle him easy.

Posted April 13, 2014 4:47 pm 


Haimat

Goomba, Zab is a front runner and Floyd adapted well. Still, Zab outboxed Floyd in the first 4 rounds.
“Fans” build Floyd up as GOAT and other ridiculous things even if he stubbornly refuses to fight the best fighter or even the second best in his division. The 0 on Floyd’s record is the result of cherry picking. He’s fought calculated opposition his whole career. Always the safe pick. Maidana is a joke. He’s got about the same chance as old Baldomir had a few years back.
Floyd knows that if you just say something over and over again people will actually start believing. Pathetic.

Posted April 13, 2014 4:46 pm 


Mike Tyson

If they and ko him he look untouable good a blowout UD. Floyd the joker got his fans fooled totally.

Posted April 13, 2014 4:46 pm 


hecubus

PEEJ – “….Floyd toys with fighters that are all offense and no defense.” Thats not and excuse. that’s exactly why floyd picks the guerreros, the ortizs, the maidanas of the world to fight…because he knows they’re not a challenge

Posted April 13, 2014 4:44 pm 


Mike Tyson

Peej you were so Wrong in your pick and you have not said I was wrong PAC is a better fight than Bradley just a fair boxing fan kodos, so how can you expect we to belive your guessing.?

Posted April 13, 2014 4:39 pm 


Mike Tyson

PEEJ, he toyed with slow slugger that are all offence. Not fast 100 punches per round slugger /boxer like PAC or Bradley , they will beat On Floyd head all night.

Posted April 13, 2014 4:35 pm 


iceman

@peej

it ain’t a excuse Pac is too small lol but yeh those pot shots and his offensive game seem made for flat footed maidana type fighter, I would like to see it against a Manny hell even a Bradley.

Posted April 13, 2014 4:34 pm 


Mike Tyson

Peej you are easly fooled, Floyd and maidana he can’t touch Floyd Bradley can and will build point. He too busy. Maidana can’t build points if he don’t ko Floyd he loses in a blow out UD. No points slugger high fast output fighters , got it?

Posted April 13, 2014 4:31 pm 


PEEJ

Were do you get poor offensive game? He has a good inside game, has a quick over hand right and left hook, something Pac is able to be hit by. And like I say he has a good inside game so when in close he will be able to attack Pac. He does not have a poor offensive game.

Posted April 13, 2014 4:31 pm 


PEEJ

If Pac and Floyd were to ever meet the excuses would be all out after Floyd whooped him. Pac was too small, he had no defense, he only looked good against fighters that walked straight towards him. Floyd toys with fighters that are all offense and no defense.

Posted April 13, 2014 4:29 pm 


iceman

@peej
you have a point with Floyd being defensively to good for Pac, but its his poor offensive game that makes the fight good. Marques was willing to take shots to get better shots off…..we know mayweather won’t.

Posted April 13, 2014 4:29 pm 


PEEJ

Yeah it is easy to say that now. You can say that about plenty of fighters. Until it is actually proven other wise then you can always say that. I can say that about GGG since he has yet to really fight any top contenders except for Macklin. But I think he is a beast and can’t be beaten at 160. But if someone beats him then he quickly becomes a hype job.

Posted April 13, 2014 4:28 pm 


Roman

@PEEJ The Pacman’s career is legendary. Floyd is lucky Pacquiao is not quite on top as he was a few ago, if they ever do meet. Manny
puts Floyd to shame. Manny has lost a few, but bounced right back.Floyd is great with an storied career too, he grew up in a boxing family, he was a famous amateur, he got the skills, he got the bling, but he ain’t a ring warrior like Manny, never gave the entertainment Pacman did and to top it all, Manny sings! LOL!

Posted April 13, 2014 4:27 pm 


Mike Tyson

Peej do you think Floyd can knock Bradley or PAC ?
If you say yes you are comparing b- fighter with A-fighter knock out.
They will be no knock out but a decision fight. That will be a close fight.
So let them fight. The best of top rank vs the best of GBP .

Posted April 13, 2014 4:27 pm 


PEEJ

Would not be a split decision fight. Floyd has too much defense for Pac. Bradley is a little bit different of a style but Floyd would humiliate Bradley. With Pac vs Bradley they went straight at each other and pretty much went toe to toe. Floyd isn’t gonna do that till he thinks its time. And I can pick fights just fine. Just because I don’t get them all correct doesn’t mean much. You must be 100% in picking fights right?

Posted April 13, 2014 4:25 pm 


iceman

@peej
also at the time most people knew berto was not all that good, another hype job.

Posted April 13, 2014 4:25 pm 


Goomba

Haimat- I see your point though I don’t think Zab ran out of steam. I think Floyd adapted to Zab’s speed and when he began to continuously catch Judah with well timed shots, Zab knew he was on his way to another ko loss and his weak mind couldn’t handle it so he self destructed.

Posted April 13, 2014 4:22 pm 


PEEJ

Well apparently people didn’t think so because the PPV numbers were pretty good. I mean it wasn’t as competitive as a Rios vs Pac fight or a Diaz vs Pac fight but it was still a young lion on a winning streak. Coming out of a war that made people think he may have gotten his head right, which we all know is not the case.

Posted April 13, 2014 4:22 pm 


Mike Tyson

Peej how are we to belive you when you can’t even pick fights

Bradley is in his prime and young And had this huge ego PAC did what he he had to do, that out punch him.
How would Floyd do?
Fighting Bradley or PAC they will be no ko. So it’s a decision both throw 100 punches per round.
No way Floyd can out jab and be untouch all night. Both will pound on Floyd head all night. Both are crazy busy
It’s will be split decision fight. That is the answer what we have waited years for. Floyd fight slow fighter or slugger that can’t build points, all Floyd has to do is survive a ko. And win a easy U.D

Floyd would never get a UD over Bradley, PAC, khan, porter, it be a darnm close fight a split decession fight and no ko.

Your only good as the opponate you fight. Bradley is prime meat and could posablly out work Floyd
In a decision fight, no ko.

Posted April 13, 2014 4:21 pm 


PEEJ

Stop, Floyd fought Oscar, Hatton, Cotto, and Mosley. There was no money in a Clottey fight, you saw how boring that fight was, Margacheato, who cares, the man is a cheater and has never been the same after being found out a cheater. He should of never gotten a shot and wasn’t even ranked at 154 when they fought. And yes he fought Bradley, I applauded that. But don’t make it sound like he was on a run that Floyd wasn’t also on. Not to mention Floyd tried fighting Oscar and Mosley in their primes but they opted not to

Posted April 13, 2014 4:20 pm 


iceman

@peej
yes I did see his fight with berto. On the back of one fight you don’t become ready or a threat to a atg like mayweather it was a terrible fight to make.

Posted April 13, 2014 4:20 pm 


PEEJ

Floyd would eat Pac up. He has gotten a little slower himself and he doesn’t seem to have the power he once used to have. Floyd would dominate Pac and may even stop him. If Bradley was hurting him then I am confident Floyd could hurt him also. He would actually catch Pac with punches he can’t see. All this garbage about him being a south paw is ridiculous. In case you haven’t noticed Floyd is undefeated against lefties.

Posted April 13, 2014 4:17 pm 


Popkins

Peej… The moment Manny stepped up in weight he fought almost every possible worthy opponent there was: Oscar, Clottey, Cotto, Marg, Hatton, Bradley and Mosley. Where as Floyd has spent years at this weight, carefully picking fighters wen he felt they were ripe for the taking. Floyd waited for Shane, Oscar and Miguel to get old. And never attempted to get fights with Marg or Bradley. … Floyd waited and waited…….. Pacman, a small LIGHTWEIGHT, even tho he didn’t have to, just stepped up and fought these guys straight away…..

Posted April 13, 2014 4:16 pm 


PEEJ

Your right, Pac doesn’t need Floyd just like Floyd doesn’t need Pac. Just like you say he doesn’t need to go up and fight the Canelos of the world, well neither does Floyd. Yeah Pac started as a pro at age 15 but if check Floyds and Pacs ages side by side you will see they have gained the same amount of weight till now.

Posted April 13, 2014 4:16 pm 


PEEJ

Your right I was, he was a young hungry lion. But unfortunately he didn’t have the mentality to be a pro boxer. Did you now see the fight between him and Berto? What other match do you want to see?

Posted April 13, 2014 4:14 pm 


Haimat

Floyd knew this very well and avoided the fight like the plague.

Posted April 13, 2014 4:12 pm 


Haimat

Goomba, sure Floyd has improved since the Zab fight but he’s also slower and less explosive. Age does things to the mind and body. Fighting a fast explosive south paw is Floyd Sr’s worst nightmare. I have no doubt that Manny in 2009, 2010 would beat Floyd by UD after seeing what a fresh b-level south paw like Zab Judah did to Floyd.

Posted April 13, 2014 4:10 pm 


Roman

Manny Pacquiao’s ring legacy is secure at this point, anything else is just gravy. Manny is FIGHTER OF THE DECADE AND MULTI WEIGHT WORLD CHAMPION, like someone said earlier. Manny started down at flyweight. He doesn’t need to be fighting heavier opponents like Canelo at this stage. He doesn’t need Floyd. I repeat: Manny does not need Floyd Mayweather.Two or three more fights then call it quits, Manny! Go Out With Your Health At The Top.

Posted April 13, 2014 4:10 pm 


Popkins

Peej … Also notice how Khan and Alexander lost to Garcia and Bradley, the two current/previous kingpins at 140 – Maidana’s weight class. And incidentally, Marcos has not fought either – and I’d bet both wud beat him.

Posted April 13, 2014 4:05 pm 


iceman

@peej

its cause of people like you we get garbage match ups like mayweather vs maidana.
You were one of those kids who was hyping Ortiz calling him a young hungry lion LMAO.

Posted April 13, 2014 4:04 pm 


PEEJ

He would still beat Khan or Maidana. Now if you don’t think they are world class well I would tend to agree with you right now. But fact is he has a title and has gone on and beat some decent comp at 147. Maidana is the 2nd most deserving fighter behind Bradley, which now Bradley has fallen a couple of spots.

Posted April 13, 2014 4:03 pm 


iceman

Maidana wouldn’t beat any world class fighter he is no better than Rios he brings nothing to the table. He is b level who happened to beat a over hyped lightweight.

Posted April 13, 2014 4:00 pm 


PEEJ

Floyd also beat Hatton, Cotto and Oscar. And he didn’t tear threw them all. He lost to Morales, struggled with Bradley

Posted April 13, 2014 3:59 pm 


PEEJ

lol you threw Diaz in there. He so garbage.

Posted April 13, 2014 3:58 pm 


PEEJ

Zab was not beating Floyd after 4 rounds, he won 2 and that was it. Last time I checked boxing, especially when fighting Floyd is a 12 round fight. Not to mention Floyd can make adjustments which is why Zab only won 2 rounds, because Floyd made adjustments.

Posted April 13, 2014 3:57 pm 


Popkins

Proud African… True. If Manny was black, and had torn his way through Morales, Barrera, Hatton, Margarito, Diaz, Cotto, Oscar, Clottey and Bradley, nobody wud care. Yeah that makes perfect sense, you’re absolutely right.

Posted April 13, 2014 3:57 pm 


mansworld

Miss Popkins fck the Philippines this is America Biiootch Manny and his Jew master opted to walk away from the fight in 09 because of the blood test study the facts. No one is scared of Manny everyone has called him out from Floyd to Danny Garcia. Arum protects his pockets and his trained chimp. He will only let Manny fight guys singed to him. Look at the history Floyd, Oscar, Cotto were all with top rape and the left and quadrupled their earnings reason why Manny is broke and suck to fighting the same guys over and over Marquez 5 is next another flop.

Posted April 13, 2014 3:56 pm 


PEEJ

If Maidana were to rematch Alexander or Khan, Maidaina would probably win by decision and a KO. Notice Khan nor Alexander have belts.

Posted April 13, 2014 3:56 pm 


Floyd Mayweather

“What good is money if you would walk with a limp, or bent over for the rest of your life? ” – FMJ

Posted April 13, 2014 3:53 pm 


iceman

@proud African

people just want to see Floyd fight the best. Maidana is a gate keeper at best.

Posted April 13, 2014 3:52 pm 


Popkins

Light welterweights Alexander and Khan hav already outboxed Maidana. It really will b a massive sporting shock if the buster Douglas type underdog Marcos pulls off an upset……

Posted April 13, 2014 3:52 pm 


Goomba

Haimat- Last time Floyd fought a quick, slick southpaw who was winning for the first 4 rounds before his opponent ran out of steam.. Were you referring to Zab Judah? Of so, why use a fight from so long ago an example? Surely, Floyd has improved skillwise since then?

Posted April 13, 2014 3:51 pm 


Proud African

People are just looking for a non-Black phenom. If Pac happened to be Black no one will take a look at him.

Posted April 13, 2014 3:50 pm 


Floyd Mayweather

“Health is more important than money…… at the end of the day Floyd is smart.” – FMJ

Posted April 13, 2014 3:49 pm 


floyd mayweather

I am the cash cow. Manny takes peds. He could kill me. I am scared. I am the goat.

Posted April 13, 2014 3:48 pm 


hecubus

WOmansworlds – stop posting, you’re embarrassing yourself. Everything about your post was wrong, including your grammer

Posted April 13, 2014 3:48 pm 


Popkins

Floyd, a phenomenal all time great boxer, is a natural WELTERWEIGHT. Yet his main rival, the guy he appears reluctant to fight is Manny Pacquiao – a small LIGHTWEIGHT …. This statement alone tells u how tremendous a fighter the Filipino is.

Posted April 13, 2014 3:47 pm 


mansworld

No surprise Manny beat Bradley he won the first time. He lost because he pissed the judes off with that BS making them wait on his entrance. Manny still is not sht he beat a feather fisted one denominational fighter last night and Tim almost KOed him until he ran out of gas. Floyd fight way better opposition Manny couldn’t beat the likes of Miadana or Canelo. Not to mention his nemisis Marquez who Floyd walked all over the same guy who KTFO of Manny, no comparisons.

Posted April 13, 2014 3:46 pm 


Bob Arum

Hello. You may remember me as, “Yesterday, I was lying, but, today I am telling you the truth,” Anyway, I just thought I would update you on the 40, 000 seater stadium I am building for the PACMAN and Mayweather mega fight I am working on for 2015. Last year, when I mentioned needing time to build the stadium I was lying out the side of my mouth, but this year when I urged you to boycott Mayweather, I am telling you the truth. I am the tightest, most mean-spirited fossil that ever breathed the beautiful air, God provided for us to exist, but when it comes to money I would rather screw you out of every last dime than share a dime with the likes of an Oscar, or Floyd who were my cash cows until they realised they could quadruple their money strings if they escaped my clutches.
Manny however is easy, because he is a fool and believes all the bs I am feeding him and he will stay with me until the end or I croak, whichever comes first.
I intend to feed off of his stinking carcass and get every last cent, even if it means the risk of brain damage to him. I lost my cut of perhaps 200m out of Mayweather and I intend to get this all out of Pac and any other fighter I can ride like Ginuwine.
Today, I am telling the truth. If you boycott his PPVs then you fools will have more money to waste on mine. I saw off Don King and intend to see off GBP and that young upstart EDDIE HEARN from UK and the Sauerlands in Europe.
I had my recent medical and I am in rude health, considering I am a direct descendant of the honourable Count Dracula and my Transylvannian roots have kept me in good stead to outlast all of you halfwits who buy my crap and really believe I will let my cash cow fight Mayweather.
Yes, today I am telling the truth, but tomorrow I will be lying out the other side of my mouth whilst ?I try to sell you Garcia as a new foe for Manny and I am even considering fast-tracking Zou Shiming and Lomachenko as Pac opponents. I’ll let them carry weights in their pockets to make 147 and it will be more money for me, lining my deep, deep, deep pockets.
I come with the champ and I leave with the champ, always!

Yours, with affection

Uncle Bob Arum

Posted April 13, 2014 3:45 pm 


BEARS

what up

Posted April 13, 2014 3:45 pm 


Martin

@Hecdog

Many thanks for your thoughtful reply.

Since you’re sure that Marquez was taking PEDs, presumably you’re also willing to admit that Pacquiao is, or was, using PEDs, at least when Alex Ariza was giving him those “special drinks” that Freddy Roach was talking about recently, right? Do you think that his “religious transformation” a couple of years ago, when he vowed to never do certain bad things again, had partly to do with him no longer using PEDs? That would explain a lot, wouldn’t it?

Posted April 13, 2014 3:43 pm 


Mike Tyson

teflon, nobody ko Bradley he the 3 best fight as of now. No prov not maidana ot Floyd not PAC .Bradley Iron jaw.

Posted April 13, 2014 3:42 pm 


iceman

I don’t love arum but he has made some of the best fights in boxing history and mayweather fought better opposition when he was with top rank.

Posted April 13, 2014 3:39 pm 


teflon

Arum simply wants to cash on Manny he knows two things one. No one is interesting in Manny anymore the Bradley II fight was a flop in Vegas. Two there are no big fights in Mannys future. Marquez 5 will be another Flop ppv wise. So who does that leave? Bradley almost KOed Manny last night it looked like he was winning the fight until after the 5 round he ran out of gas he punched himself out and fought a stupid fight. Manny still is not the same he is not bigger and stronger as he was back int the days he would have KTFO of Tim. Floyd is 150 million a year strong and they opted out the fight in 09 now Arum wants another shot maybe he is still just talking sht trying to work more leverage like he always has done but it never works. If Arum really wanted to make the fight happened it could have been taken place with Manny getting his ass whopped frankly I hope it does so these retard will see the difference between good and great all thise awkard punches from crazy angles he wont win one round on Floyd…

Posted April 13, 2014 3:38 pm 


Mike Tyson

lightsoutOhio, so did Floyd he foght Marquez comming from 135 lb and Floyd a true 156 lb fight night marquez was 143lb Floyd was 147 lb pluss rehydration . Plus PAC went down to Marquez 144 lb weight for the fight, Floyd was about 7 -9 lb heavier than Marquez

Posted April 13, 2014 3:36 pm 


Jay rock

I don’t hate pacman, I just hate arum

Posted April 13, 2014 3:35 pm 


iceman

The hate Manny gets from floyd nuthuggers is straight out blind fanboys who are insecure. How can maidana, khan etc be better or more competitive fights than against Manny? Really if you are a fan of boxing you should want the fight.

Posted April 13, 2014 3:32 pm 


Mike Tyson

Floyd Avoided margarito back then he was undefeated, just his size too chicken

Posted April 13, 2014 3:32 pm 


Mike Tyson

lightsoutOhio. What are you kep talking about Zab. He gave Floyd one hard fight but he gone. Where is he now? He not around so wtf does it matter, Floyd never fought Eric moreles . But bet he lose.
Maybe you need to turn some light on huh?

Posted April 13, 2014 3:30 pm 


hecubus

its still two wins against his greatest rival and a future HOF’er….regardless of how dramatic the KO was, it doesn’t take away the fact that Pacquiao still is still ahead in their series

Posted April 13, 2014 3:27 pm 


Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. LionKing)

FUN FACTS:

FMJ has been ducking PacMan and Maravilla at 154lbs for years. What’s PATHETIC about that it Pac is a very small WW who started at just 112lbs. And now he’s still ducking Pac as well as Lara and 3G at ’54. That’s at least four fighters that FMJ has outright ducked in recent years. And that list doesn’t include the guys he fought, but actively avoided when they were in their primes. Real talk.

Posted April 13, 2014 3:23 pm 


Popkins

I wud argue that Floyd’s all time standing wud tumble, and Pacman wud then b rated more highly. The vultures will b out if Floyd loses. …

Posted April 13, 2014 3:22 pm 


Popkins

If Maidana were to somehow KO Mayweather (unlikely, I know, but possible), how wud that affect the way people view his career? Most people say Floyd is still at his peak, so surely losing to a guy outside the P4P top 20 wud put a huge dent in his all time standing?? This is the risk Mayweather takes when facing average calibre opponents…

Posted April 13, 2014 3:20 pm 


iceman

I remember when mayweather fought Ortiz, all his nuthuggers were claiming Ortiz is dangerous and a young hungry lion lmao!!

Posted April 13, 2014 3:19 pm 


hecubus

lights out – remember that Manny still has two wins over marquez as opposed to Marquez’s 1 win?

Posted April 13, 2014 3:15 pm 


Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. LionKing)

FUN FACTS: FMJ lost his first fight with Castillo. The statistical evidence is just too overwhelming to dispute. So FMJ is NOT really undefeated. His REAL record is 44-1 and he’ll have at least 2 losses on his record if he continues to fight the very best in the world (e.g., Pac at ‘47; Lara, 3G or Martinez at ‘54) before he retires. This is not the GOAT that we’re taking about, he’s an ATG. But if it’s his “O” that makes FMJ so great, then Calzaghe and Marciano are already the GOATs.

Last time I checked, TENS of MILLIONS of fight fans KNOW that Castillo beat FMJ in their first fight. Castillo threw 506 punches and landed 203 (40%); FMJ threw 448 and landed 157 (35%). But more importantly, Castillo threw 377 POWER punches and landed 173 (46%). FMJ only threw 151 power punches and only landed 66 (44%) of them. That’s 173 to 66 power punches!!!

CompuBox is not perfect, but it’s extremely important because we see WAY too many robberies and bad decisions in pro boxing. It’s the only empirical, fact-based system of evidence that analysts, writers and fans have to fall back on when decisions go to the wrong fighter. When FMJ was judged to be the winner, the large crowd in Vegas erupted with angry disgust and booed loudly for well over 10 minutes.

Posted April 13, 2014 3:14 pm 


Mike Tyson

Mike Tyson

Bradley is in his prime and young And had this hige ego PAC did what he he had to do, that out punch him.
How would Floyd do?
Fighting Bradley or PAC they will be no ko. So it’s a decision both throw 100 punches per round.
No way Floyd can out jab and be untouch all night. Both will pound on Floyd head all night. Both are crazy busy
It’s will be split decision fight. That is the answer what we have waited years for. Floyd fight slow fighter or slugger that can’t build points, all Floyd has to do is survive a ko. And win a easy U.D

Floyd would never get a UD over Bradley, PAC, khan, porter, it be a darnm close fight a split decession fight and no ko.

Your only good as the opponate you fight. Bradley is prime meat and could posablly out work Floyd
In a decision fight, no ko.

Posted April 13, 2014 3:12 pm 


iceman

Mayweather has the talent to beat Manny but the punk dont have the heart, Manny didn’t look great but then Bradley is a top fighter he would whoop any gbp fighter at 147 and that’s a damn fact.

Posted April 13, 2014 3:08 pm 


hecubus

haimat – exactly….for someone who calls pacquaio “easy work” and who calls himself “money” and says hes a prizefighter, who fights for a prize, hes really gone out of his way to avoid the biggest prize of them all. At this point I’d have Floyd as the favorite in a fight vs. Pacquiao, but he knows pacquiao isnt “easy work” and he knows Pacquiao is special and in a class above the Ortiz’s, Maidana’s, Guerrero’s hes been fighting

Posted April 13, 2014 3:06 pm 


Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. LionKing)

Thanks BEARS! You’ve been hitting the nail square on the head…so the feeling is mutual, brother.

Posted April 13, 2014 3:04 pm 


Haimat

BEARS, did you see the fight when Floyd last fought a quick slick south paw and got outboxed the first 4 rounds until his opponent ran out of steam which Pacman is very unlikely to do. Floyd might squeeze out a Decision but it won’t be easy let me tell you friend. There is a reason why Floyd has used up all the excuses of all time there ever was, for the sole purpose of not fighting Pacquaio, even though he’d make more money than any other fight. Think about it.

Posted April 13, 2014 3:02 pm 


amor

BLAME GAME! JUST GO BACK YO EACH BOXER’S HISTORY!!! WHO’S BEEN FIGHTING THE CURRENT BIG DOGS IN THEIR RESPECTIVE DIVISIONS WHEN FIGHT NIGHT CAME? WHO’S BEEN DUCKING THE TOP DOGS! BLAME THE ONE WITH A LONG HISTORY OF DUCKING!!! VERY, VERY SIMPLE!!! EVEN A CAVEMAN WOULD KNOW IT!!! LMFAO!

Posted April 13, 2014 3:01 pm 


BEARS

lionking- spot on! you’re my guy dude

Posted April 13, 2014 2:57 pm 


BEARS

can east side ban who’s ever ip that is below posting as me please? this should be a login site to post comments

Posted April 13, 2014 2:53 pm 


WOMANSWORLD

Only Paquiao can make boring Mayweather fights exciting.the bradley/paquiao fight ,oh man that’s a fight,non-stop action from round one to twelve.maidana/mayweather bout cannot duplicate it.only the hype is huge but the actual mayweather fight as usual will be mediocre as always full of running and covering of face NO ACTUAL BOXING JUST A FEW JABS that’s it…..BORING!

Posted April 13, 2014 2:49 pm 


Mike Tyson

Jonn E. JaGozza, sound good but, why take out all the new your fighter with your better experience look what Floyd did to Canelo, he runed his career. He inexperience standing straight up and not moving his head.
Floyd beat these slow slugger on points easly, Floyd duck down so they can’t ko him.
Pac has earn the title as top fighter of t. Rank. He could fight porter. But there are friends.
Both Floyd and PAC are top dog and need to fight and both retired.
Marquez too.
Then Bradley is champ , porter maidana, has a shot of being champ and make million.
Floyd burn 100 dollar bills in clubs all the time. Both have made over 100 million
Let the new guys earn afew thousand in fight I say this comming from as young time sparing partner
All you get payed is lunch or dinner.

Posted April 13, 2014 2:48 pm 


anonymous

Hey sean and bear. U mean clottey who thru 5 punches a round against pac. And hey pac didnt fight a prime cotto. Didnt fight lara, trout, williams, garcia or matthysse.

Posted April 13, 2014 2:42 pm 


RapidFire

Pacquaio doesn’t punch as hard as he used because he fought stationary flat footed fighters. Last night Pacquaio looked slow against a fighter with mediocre footwork(compared to Floyd). Also Magarito was trash so what makes y’all he would’ve had a chance against Mayweather..dude had bricks in his feet.

Posted April 13, 2014 2:41 pm 


Benny the Jet

Manny ducked Canelo

Posted April 13, 2014 2:35 pm 


Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. LionKing)

Boycott ALL FMJ fights until he mans-up and finally faces PacMan!!! Or takes a REAL challenge like Lara, 3G, Thurman, Garcia, etc. Not the slow, plodding Maidana’s, Ortiz’s, Guerrero’s and Baldomir’s of the world.

FMJ fought ODLH and Cotto at 154lbs, but wasn’t willing to fight Canelo without a B.S. catch-weight. Why??? Because he knew Canelo was already struggling to make weight at 154, and that he’d be totally weight-drained and weakened at 152. Saul NEVER should’ve agreed to that B.S., but he knew it was the ONLY way FMJ would agree to fight him.

So, FMJ doesn’t get full credit for outboxing Canelo. He gets less than 50% credit. And he gets zero credit for winning the 154lbs titles in a fight that was contested a lower catch-weight (152lbs).

Posted April 13, 2014 2:34 pm 


Fraud Gayweather

I was all set to fight Mickey Rooney until he passed away. Al Haymon still thinks it’s a risk if I step in to the ring vs Rooney’s corpse.

Posted April 13, 2014 2:31 pm 


Octavius Jomar Chatman

Arum is now a COMEDIAN…..

Posted April 13, 2014 2:29 pm 


BEARS

its not letting me post my posts now. pretty weak east side

Posted April 13, 2014 2:18 pm 


BEARS

why would pac need a ko to beat jmm? he has pretty much been the jmm knock down specialist has he not? he was on his way to stopping jmm yet again landing combos and dropping jmm prior to himself getting stopped by jmm’s punch. pac would be favored if they were to meet again. jmm is in no way shape or form greater or better than pac. It’s boxing, jmm landed a punch, it happens. It does not erase everything. in all likely hood its not to be repeated and to finally land it after how fights and rounds i dont know how impressive that really is. the guy has a had a long long time to try and figure out how to land that punch and and exorbitant amount of time in the ring with manny to increase the odds of it landing.

Posted April 13, 2014 2:17 pm 


Jonn E. JaGozza

The true signs of a champion is that he’ll take on anyone and I also agree that I’m getting sick and tired of hearing about a Packman/Mayweather fight just like I am hearing Khan’s demand that Mayweather fight him. This degraded the other champions and makes them look like they’re just all phonies… But there are great fights out there to be made.. You guys think that Packman would have no problems with Porter,or Maidana. Canelo would really want this fight and I can’t see Packman beating him. Or how about a Khan/ Pacquio fight with the winner taking on either Maidana or Porter who, by the way, are both
champions, then that winner fight Mayweather.. Also, in the wings is Danny Garcia who is just the guy who TKO’d Khan … and who Khan wants no part of …Gentlemen, there are many GREAT fights out there and NOT only the fight with Mayweather . Boxing dictionary.com “The Language of the Ring “

Posted April 13, 2014 2:16 pm 


Mike Tyson

Bradley mad PAC look bad o ly way to beat him is to out punch him.

Floyd fight pac or bradley they will be no ko. So it’s a decision fight both throw 100 punches per round.
No way Floyd can out jab and be untouch all night. Both will pound on Floyd head all night. Both are crazy busy
It’s will be split decision fight. That is the answer what we have waited years for. Floyd fight slow fighter or slugger that can’t build points, all Floyd has to do is survive a ko. And win a easy U.D

Floyd would never get a UD over Bradley, PAC, khan, porter, it be a darnm close fight a split decession fight and no ko.

Posted April 13, 2014 2:14 pm 


Ghost

Won’t be the same Manny is not in his prime. Floyd did the running man to long.

Posted April 13, 2014 2:11 pm 


sean

Well put bear. I would add forest chavez zu and clottey to fighters floyd ducked.

Posted April 13, 2014 2:10 pm 


Tomato Can

Ok Bob, whatever you say. I’ll boycott your cards too.

Posted April 13, 2014 2:09 pm 


BEARS

a fighter is not defined by their losses only or their wins only. floyds zero is only as good as his resume could have potentially been meaning…..

floyd is fighting a circus act in ortiz, guerrero, maidana, kahn, baldomir, etc etc

floyd could have had the best RESUME OF ALL TIME even better than cassius clay in fighting PAUL WILLIAMS, PEAK COTTO AND CEMENT HANDS MARGARITO, PACMAN, SERG MARTINEZ (like he said he would), WINKY WRIGHT, LARA, (EVEN TROUT BETTER THAN MOST THE GUYS I LISTED IN THE CIRCUS ACT), 3G, MATHYSE, GARCIA.

I may have missed some guys but when you think about all the fights AVAILABLE to mayweather, had he made these fights and won we would be calling him the GOAT no disputes no bones about it. but given floyds CAREFULLY PICKED HISTORY OF OPPONENTS and the little things he did for advantages over the best of them like outweighing jmm and NOT WEIGHING fight night to boiling out 50% of canelos scalp value in a bullsh!t catchweight two pounds below 154 unification bout which ellerbe went on at length on all access about how bad it would effect canelo which he was right.

This really destroys floyds quality of his zero losses. floyd has taken the path of least resistance

Posted April 13, 2014 2:05 pm 


Mike Tyson

Bears but if Pac need a ko to eat Marquez and even that will not convince the hard heads PAC better.
Best to avoilding that fight, as it’s not needed PAC already has Marquez belt he has none. LOL

Posted April 13, 2014 2:03 pm 


wtf

Everyone is out there making money off you idiots on both sides. Arum dont care about you, Floyd dont and Manny dont. All u some dumb Muthas.

Posted April 13, 2014 2:02 pm 


Mike Tyson

Benny the Jet, all that matter is belts as that is ranking from matchups.
PAC the best from top rank.bradley took Marquez belt away he was 1 place PAC 1 place now.
Floyd 1 place from GBP boxing now. So they both fight then we know who best.

Posted April 13, 2014 2:00 pm 


Anonymous

Floyd is the one who cried like a baby while beating his babies mama and subsequently going to prison and crying even more :(

Posted April 13, 2014 2:00 pm 


Benny the Jet

Manny hasnt stopped a fighter since he slept with Krista Ranillo and denied it of course….Ranillo later told the truth. I guess her pussy took Manny’s power lol.

Posted April 13, 2014 2:00 pm 


Big Moe

This will only make people buy the fight anyway. GB puts on better undercards.

Posted April 13, 2014 1:59 pm 


BEARS

I think the fact that pacman beat margarito and floyd ducked him is a big plus for pacman. I think pac beating bradley twice and barrera and morales multiple times are huge for pac. i think that pac had better results against all common opponents with floyd but jmm also boads well for pac (did floyd even knock down jmm?), and i think all the excuses from the floyd team and ducking of pac speaks the most volumes and shines the best light on pac. I think history will be tough on mayweather and good on pac. also all the divisions pacman climbed. Pac pretty much blows mayweather outta the water. a real warrior vs a ducker. not hard to make sense of things here. mayweather is fighting the ortiz’s, guerreros, maidanas, kahns, and baldomirs of the world! what a joke

Posted April 13, 2014 1:58 pm 


Mike Tyson

BEARS, it was because PAC didn’t see the punch. Anytime you don’t see the punch you get ko. As you got hit from behind . Bradley tryed the same punch but PAC took the punch as he seen the punch so that prove Marquez was a luck punch.

Posted April 13, 2014 1:57 pm 


Benny the Jet

Floyd is not the one with 5 losses and one guy who he can’t solve after 4 fights. Manny’s loss to Morales in their first fight and Manny cried in his corner is what put doubts in people.

Posted April 13, 2014 1:57 pm 


Haimat

Benny the Jet, what? “have more respect for a fighter”? LOL

Posted April 13, 2014 1:55 pm 


mrmdz

If Manny doesn’t fight Floyd, who’s next? Marquez?

Posted April 13, 2014 1:55 pm 


BEARS

I think what might have happened to pac was that provodnikov softened him up in sparring and pac took too many bombs in tough sparring. Its definitely possible. could totally explain some degradation in his punch resilience if that is what happened to him against jmm. or it could have been a combination of a great shot by jmm and what i describe above or it could have been all jmm and some juice. Hard to say. but pac definitely use to spar that MAD BEAST PROVODNIKOV that beat bradleys A$$.

Posted April 13, 2014 1:54 pm 


Mike Tyson

Haimat, Wtf are you talking about. I said not such stuff. And We’re not the same person

Posted April 13, 2014 1:53 pm 


El Grand Campeon

Manny Pacquiao, MULTI WEIGHT WORLD CHAMPION, RING FIGHTER OF THE YEAR X 3 and FIGHTER OF THE DECADE, is officially:

2-0 vs Barrera
2-1 vs Morales
2-1-1 vs Marquez
1-1 vs Bradley

Posted April 13, 2014 1:52 pm 


BEARS

maidana is gonna get dominated as bad as guerrero. This is not even a real boxing contest its more of a WWF ppv. more like wrestling and an act and con than a boxing bout.

Posted April 13, 2014 1:51 pm 


Mike Tyson

Benny the Jet

Question for Pacquiao fans. If Floyd does fight Manny and wins a relatively easy decision say 116-112 then Floyd is the greatest fighter of all time because of what you believe about Pacquiao’s place in history right? But if Manny beats Floyd he only beat a cherry picking runner right?

No floyd won 6 belt champion at 6 diffrents weight class as manny 7
They resent the best of there top rank or GBP boxing.
That what on the line here, the best vs the best.
Winner get bragging rights. Then both retire, the other way is they feed us rerun fight for 3-4 years and we fight who best. iam gone from boxing if the fight interest isn’t there, i will not be taken for a fool. F#^k them.
Floyd vs PAC or nothing.

Posted April 13, 2014 1:50 pm 


Hecdog

Martin my friend, I never lost faith in Manny Pacquiao even though he lost to the Marquez. I’ve been watching boxing for years, and these things happen. It’s better to get dropped quickly rather than absorb punishment round after round. The only one taking punishment was Marquez. It happens to the best of them. Duran, Lewis, Louis, but those great champions came back and won titles again. Manny Pacquiao is simply a great one that can do unbelievable things, and his faith carries him through. And we all know the truth about Marquez and his purposeful hiring of Angel Hereida (Ped Supplier to the USA Olympic Track and Field team) His interview has been documented, and he admitted to knowing everything about Peds and that he could mask everything, and adding to that would be that the NSAC tells the fighters camps exactly what they test for months ahead of time, so Hereida had all he needed to do what he does best? And adding to all this was Marquez huge muscular build (obvious to all) and the power he had that he never had in 3 previous fights with Manny. Adding to that was Marquez and Nacho telling reporters on tv that they knew nothing about Hereida, and then changing their stories a few days later. Liars will always lie. It all adds up if you put it all together. Just because he tested negative does not mean he was clean. remember what Hereida said. This man and his father were chemists. They knew what they were doing. Anyway, Manny Pacquiao is a blessed man that had dealt with many tough times in his life, but he got up every time, and this was going to be no different. Look at him today. A fabulous, incredible boxing master piece last night. This is a great fighter that won 8 division titles and that accomplishment will never be seen again. I never lost faith in him. I support and admire the legend, and that’s all. Manny Pacquiao is the best.

Posted April 13, 2014 1:50 pm 


BEARS

The excuses first was money. Floyd tried to price himself out of a fight demanding 100 million. Arum said ok than it was some astromical % of all profits and floyd saying “he’s a congressman, he has a job to make money on, if i loose i got nothing else” to me this inferred FEAR on mayweathers part which at the time was not unfounded because pacman was on a strait WARPATH.

Then all the sudden mayweather is taking it upon himself to cry PEDS and pretend like he is gonna clean up the sport. then its the promoter and demands to leave arum now. then its beat bradley. now its beat jmm. theres even more excuses in there thats just off the top of my head. There is no way mayweather ever deserved a great deal more money than pacman.

Its pretty clear floyd goes into excuse over drive when public demand for a fight with a fighter that poses any risk at all. mayweather is con. he is not even number one or two to me. you do not get to that spot beating the guys mayweather has alone.

Posted April 13, 2014 1:49 pm 


El Grand Campeon

Floyd P4P #1 DUCKER in History!

Posted April 13, 2014 1:48 pm 


Benny the Jet

Haimat I’m not Tyson. You underrated Floyd. Have more respect for a fighter

Posted April 13, 2014 1:47 pm 


Benny the Jet

Torrecampo
Singsurat
Hussein
Sanchez
Morales
Marquez
Marquez
Marquez
Bradley
Marquez

Posted April 13, 2014 1:46 pm 


El Grand Campeon

Marcos MAIDANA, he GONE SHAKE UP THE WORLD, HE GONE SHAKE UP THE WORLD, HE GONE SHAKE UP THE WORLD, when he knock out Floyd* ‘The P4P #1 Ducker’ Mayweather, 11th round KO, you heard it here first!

Posted April 13, 2014 1:45 pm 


Fraud May

Wheres LARGO? He predicted a KO by “lil Tim”, haha. I told you, Bradley didnt have knockout power….

Posted April 13, 2014 1:45 pm 


Haimat

Benny the Jet and Mike Tyson, I assume you’re the same person. So Manny only wins 2 rounds against Floyd? Interesting. Especially since Cotto won 4 rounds, Guerrero won 3 and Alvarez won 3, 4 and 6 on the cards. Judah, the last south paw Floyd fought, won 3 out of the first 4 rounds by outboxing Floyd.
I’m not so sure Floyd wins 10 rounds against PAC, even though Pac throws half the punches he did 4 years ago. Floyd will make it a boring fight and not engage more than absolutely necessary. Still I give Pac a good chance unlike Maidana who’s a B, possibly a C-level fighter.

Posted April 13, 2014 1:44 pm 


mrmdz

If Bob agrees to all of Floyd’s terms, fight is on. If not, Manny keeps fighting TR fighters.

Posted April 13, 2014 1:44 pm 


BEARS

there is no reason to boycott pacman or bradley. These guys are making good fights and fighting the best. It is floyd who is not. it is the mayweather circus that really does need boycotted. But i dont think its the real boxing fans perpetuating the mayweather circus anymore. I think its just become custom and routine for some households to buy the ppv of fraud. I think in large part its mexicans and mexican bars. floyd picking a latino and fighting on latino holidays is no coincidence.

Posted April 13, 2014 1:43 pm 


Mike Tyson

lightsoutOhio. Your might be right the catch weigh diffrent would be hard to do.
Just that I have watend for this fight about 8 years and want to see it badly
What would make Floyd look bad if PAC say I fight Floyd at his 156lb weight.

Posted April 13, 2014 1:43 pm 


Benny the Jet

Bears I’m sure you can explain why Manny pulled out of the March 2010 fight right? After Floyd agreed to his cowardly 10 million dollar fine per pound over 147?

Posted April 13, 2014 1:43 pm 


Love-the-Sport

Bob Arum is an idiot.

Pacquiao vs. Bradley II was a repeat of Pacquiao vs. Bradley I.

Nothing new. Been there. Done that.

Maidana vs. Mayweather — however — is different in that Maidana is coming off a big wins over Broner, Lopez, and Soto Karass.

Maidana is an unpredictable fighter who throws punches with power and from unexpected angles.

It is not a great fight — but it is a good fight that will actually have more drama than Alvarez vs. Mayweather.

The idea that boxing fans should boycott is the pathetic whining of a old grump who is losing his grip on boxing and putting on worse and worse shows with a limited and declining stable of boxers.

Bob Arum should “go away.”

Posted April 13, 2014 1:42 pm 


Benny the Jet

Question for Pacquiao fans. If Floyd does fight Manny and wins a relatively easy decision say 116-112 then Floyd is the greatest fighter of all time because of what you believe about Pacquiao’s place in history right? But if Manny beats Floyd he only beat a cherry picking runner right?

Posted April 13, 2014 1:40 pm 


BEARS

oh yeah, expect the EXCUSE TRAIN to continue from team fraud. I have never heard so many excuses. They should be awarded for all the excuses they have made to not fight the best but fight forgone conclusions against people with multiple losses or undeserving in some manner.

The biggest joke of all are the mayweather nuthuggers who gobble up every excuse that flows from may’s a$$. and start stuttering “nope nope, noooope floyd cant fight pacman” like that old baby buzzzard on looney tunes who would just not leave the nest and fly. floyd nuthuggers to me are the funniest thing in boxing and have been for years.

Posted April 13, 2014 1:40 pm 


Mike Tyson

I say it both GBP Floyd and arum fault this fight not happening why?
Because they make more money keepin that fight interest and feeding us
Junk fight instead. I wouldn’t be surprise if the both agree to do just that and play us as fools.
Wee need to demand this fight. Boycot both side .

Posted April 13, 2014 1:38 pm 


BEARS

if serg martinez vs floyd were to happen now it should not happen at any less than 157 or 158 lbs. It would probably be really hard for martinez to make weight. that fight like the pac fight needed to happen 2 or 3 years ago when it was being discussed. But fraud said he would fight these guys and again fraud fought bums instead.

Posted April 13, 2014 1:37 pm 


Benny the Jet

Sigh. Here we go again. Manny has to try and prove he can beat JMM.

Posted April 13, 2014 1:36 pm 


Benny the Jet

Manny’s “slave mentality loyalty” to a corrupt Jew is whats holding up the fight.

Posted April 13, 2014 1:36 pm 


Power Cut

MULTI WEIGHT WORLD CHAMPION and FIGHTER OF THE DECADE, that’s Manny, y’all!

Posted April 13, 2014 1:35 pm 


BEARS

I have been boycotting frauds ppv for the most part for years. He has always FAILED to fight the best unlike pacman who seems to always make the best fights available to him happen.

Floyd has ducked so many match ups and offered up garbage instead for so long its ridiculous. I just wonder how people rationalize putting him in the number spot? His competition does not justify that ranking to me.

Canelo would have redeemed floyd a LITTLE in that department but the bullsh!t catchweight RUINED that fight and boiled out about 50% of the value of canelo’s scalp as he had no stamina and totally changed the dynamics of the matchup. Funniest of all was ellerbe saying exactly that on all access. Talk about a dense dumba$$. LOL

Posted April 13, 2014 1:35 pm 


Mike Tyson

Martin, we can only guess your right, but the cold war prevent these fight.
PAC is number 1 at top rank, who number 1 at GBP ?
Shouldn’t they fight?

Posted April 13, 2014 1:34 pm 


Power Cut

Floyd avoided Manny. Manny ‘the Pacman’ Pacquiao doesn’t need the clown, his legacy is secure and with the respect of the public at large. FIGHTER OF THE DECADEand MULTI-WEIGHT WORLD CHAMPION!

Posted April 13, 2014 1:33 pm 


mrmdz

Uncle Bob is not going to sit down with May’s camp and negotiate the fight. It’s not happening everybody.

Posted April 13, 2014 1:32 pm 


Benny the Jet

Excuse me to all below….when oh when did Manny Pacquiao fight Zab Judah???????

Posted April 13, 2014 1:32 pm 


Mike Tyson

Anonymous, cold war prevent us to see that fight, but PAC fight floyd tell us the answer.
How would Floyd do with margarito, or Eric morales, or Barretta. Also
If they fight then we know , as Floyd was retired when 60% of fighter were unbeaten and PAC was fighting 2 fight per year. PAC has 18 more total fight than Floyd Same guys but he wouldnt be here if he couldn’t get pass that fighter, he the best from top rank now.

Posted April 13, 2014 1:31 pm 


Martin

@Mike Tyson

“How could that be?”

How could Manny be past his prime? It happens to all fighters at some point.

@Pac man fever

“Floyd struggled with Zad Judah. Manny stopped Judah. What’s that tell you?”

Absolutely nothing (even if Manny had fought Judah, which he hasn’t).

Posted April 13, 2014 1:30 pm 


Anonymous

Arum needs to hurry up and CROAK.
Bradley has killed his own career by resigning with Top Rank.
Pacman’s silly catchphrase, “It depends on my promoter, Mr. Arum,” is wearing real thin.

Posted April 13, 2014 1:29 pm 


The Fight Dr

Manny Pacquiao’s excellent performance makes it easy for Mayweather to continue to run from him….Instead Mayweather will fight Lucia Rijker. Golden Boy will call if “Someones 0 Will Have To Go” Richard Schaefer will say that “this is Floyd’s toughest test ever.” Schaefer will also say that Floyd doesn’t fare well with the judges when he fights women.

Posted April 13, 2014 1:27 pm 


Mike Tyson

be it Bradley or PAC floyd fight they will be no ko. So it’s a decision both throw 100 punches per round.
No way Floyd can out jab and be untouch all night. Both will pound on Floyd head all night. Both are crazy busy
It’s will be split decision fight. That is the answer what we have waited years for. Floyd fight slow fighter or slugger that can’t build points, all Floyd has to do is survive a ko. And win a easy U.D

Floyd would never get a UD over Bradley, PAC, khan, porter, it be a darnm close fight a split decession fight and no ko.

Posted April 13, 2014 1:25 pm 


Fraud May

Wheres LARGO? He predicted a KO by “lil Tim”, haha. I told you, Bradley didnt have knockout power…

Posted April 13, 2014 1:25 pm 


Anonymous

Pac man fever

Floyd struggled with Zad Judah. Manny stopped Judah. What’s that tell you?

Posted April 13, 2014 1:16 pm

Excuse me, WHEN did PACMAN fight Zab Judah? I must have been snoozing cause I sure as he’ll NEVER seen these two cats fight. NEVER!

I think you need to get a boxing 101 Class. PACMAN fought Joshua CLOTTEY, who you may be mixing Judah up with… Otherwise, please pull this fight evidence out for me?

Posted April 13, 2014 1:25 pm 


Mike Tyson

lightsoutOhio, yol. Its more match up than that we never willl see.
That what iam saying Floyd the best of GBP PAC the best of top rank.
That just 50% of the fighter Floyd and PAC fought.
So who the bests? I don’t want the mayweather telling me who best.

Posted April 13, 2014 1:24 pm 


birdhead

@anonymous. ..nonsense. problem is the riddle of Pacquiao has been solved by the likes of Torrecampo, Singsurat, Morales, and maybe 4 times by Juan Manuel Marquez. Your logic is flawed. Floyd has beat fast guys before and Manny’s southpaw stance makes him vulnerable to right hands but you can ask Marquez about that. Pacquiao can make a few adjustments against certain fighters but Floyd has way too muck skill for Manny. Just as fast, bettet footwork, stamina, strength, accuracy and does not make stupid decisions.

Posted April 13, 2014 1:22 pm 


Patrick

Arum talks a good game…

Posted April 13, 2014 1:20 pm 


Mike Tyson

PAC has said he want Floyd too many times. Just before this fight PAC said he want Floyd after this fight, everybody were say think about Bradley first as your going to lose.

Arum have said his phones are open after he gave Floyd and GBP 3 week for arum offer. After that they started calling each other names and now it’s only through the media they talk to each other.

But he going to be surprise ppv sales might be slow, and same a floyd fight.
That it why Iam affraid they will belive the Mexican fans are the answer. If this happen f#^%k boxing. We have to call out for the fight now. Or they will feed us the fight in 3-4 years from now.

Posted April 13, 2014 1:20 pm 


mrmdz

Manny needs to be a free agent in order to fight Money. Until then, uncle bob calling all shots.

Posted April 13, 2014 1:19 pm 


Patrick

And Pacquiao struggled against Marquez, yet Bradley beat Marquez… so what’s that tellin’ ya?

Posted April 13, 2014 1:18 pm 


Ike

As long as Pacquiao is under contract with Top Rank we will never see Mayweather vs. Pacquiao. Marquez will be next for Pac and it’ll be Provodnikov after that.

Posted April 13, 2014 1:16 pm 


Pac man fever

Floyd struggled with Zad Judah. Manny stopped Judah. What’s that tell you?

Posted April 13, 2014 1:16 pm 


Anonymous

Whoever has some knowledge. About boxing knows that floyd would have a difficult. Night on the square circle if he dares to face paquiao….paquiao has speed amd. Power….he migh be as fast as floyd and perhaps faster tham him…..thas the reason he has always run scared fr the Philippines. Fighter

Posted April 13, 2014 1:14 pm 


IRON MIKE

Why didn`t Manny answer the question, it was asked to him,he looks right at Bob and lets the snake with hair answer for him,Why does Bob say their phones are open,Why does he not in public just call Floyd and start the ball rolling, At this point the fight lost to much steam,it should have happened in 2008 or 2009,not it has about as much significant as Nelson Fenech 3, be like sloppy seconds- screw them both

Posted April 13, 2014 1:09 pm 


Anonymous

As usual……like the floydiots, Teddy Altas bet against Pac. No wonder no reputable fighter has him as their trainer.

Posted April 13, 2014 1:03 pm 


Mike Tyson

Benny the Jet

Haimat I assure you Floyd v Manny won’t be a great fight. Manny loses 10 rounds to 2.

Benny.be it Bradley or PAC they will be no ko. So it’s a decision both throw 100 punches per round.
No way Floyd can out jab and be untouch all night. Both will pound on Floyd head all night. Both are crazy busy
It’s will be split decision fight. That is the answer what we have waited years for. Floyd fight slow fighter or slugger that can’t build points, all Floyd has to do is survive a ko. And win a easy U.D

Floyd would never get a UD over Bradley, PAC, khan, porter, it be a darnm close fight a split decession fight and no ko.

Posted April 13, 2014 1:01 pm 


Anonymous

Floyd is his own boss, right??? Good, means he can make the fight happen. Once again on national t.v. Pac stated his lines are open 24/7 to let you floydiots know it is not he who is avoiding. The only word we continue to hear from Floyd and his legion of flomos is…..”he already had his chance,” “Pac said no many moons ago.” Do any of your realize that yesterday news is old news today?????????????? Yesterday was yesterday. Today is today!!!! Time to move forward. Have yet to know of Floyd ever havening the testicular fortitude to publicly have it known who he wants to fight. Floyd is in to mind games using twitter and social media instead of negotiating professionally. He runs a survey to select his next opponent but then chooses the loser of the survey. Floyd is not professional, not serious and still a cherry picker.

Posted April 13, 2014 12:56 pm 


Mike Tyson

Bottom line Floyd the riches man in sport writer shouldn’t give him the kid pass anymore, he a pro athlete , and he should act like one. He not dating arum.

Arum said 50 million each and ppv shares, but not a MGM Texas stadium hold 100 k seat. MGM 8 k
Then they shoul both retire for boxing sakes. Let the new blood have a chance.
Bradley would be top dog.

Posted April 13, 2014 12:51 pm 


Mike Tyson

Martin

Incidentally, the Pacquiao fans who continue to maintain that Manny is still as good as ever and would whoop Mayweather are precisely the people doing Manny the most disservice. If they continue to maintain that, and the fight happens, they will be forced to concede that Mayweather is, and always was, the superior fighter. That is because while Pacquiao had a great chance against Mayweather back in 2009-10, he really wouldn’t now. Pacquiao fans should rest content in the knowledge that Pacquiao was the Fighter of the Decade in the 2000s, and admit that he is now well past his prime.

How could that be? PAC is now the best fighter of top rank. Or the best fighter of 50 + fighters Floyd never fought. It’s goes back when Floyd was retired and 60% of fighter were unbeaten. Also resents
7 belt champions PAC has won at diffrent weight class.

Floyd half a champion now. PAC the other half.

Posted April 13, 2014 12:46 pm 


Tyroc2

@lightsout When you get some facts come back and try again. No “fact” in you so called facts.

Posted April 13, 2014 12:45 pm 


Benny the Jet

Have some balls congressman….fire Arum!

Posted April 13, 2014 12:37 pm 


Benny the Jet

Pactards you can’t have it both ways. If Floyd is such a cherry picker and a runner, a win over him wont mean much right? Bullspit. You will then say Manny beat the greatest fighter of his generation. Punkass hypocrites.

Posted April 13, 2014 12:36 pm 


Benny the Jet

Haimat I assure you Floyd v Manny won’t be a great fight. Manny loses 10 rounds to 2.

Posted April 13, 2014 12:33 pm 


PEEJ

Yes that was hilarious, Pacs mom was casting voodoo spells. And HBO kept showing her at the corner of the screen. lol

Posted April 13, 2014 12:32 pm 


Benny the Jet

Lets face it. If all parties involved wanted this fight to happen it would have happened by now. Manny is Arum’s boy and wont leave that stable of fighters. Plus it was Manny who pulled out of the March 2010 fight. If Manny did. Not have 5 losses the overwhelming pressure would be too great. Bases on their records and being at their peak Oscar and Toto would seem to be the more difficult fight to make.

Posted April 13, 2014 12:32 pm 


PEEJ

Arum says boycott Floyd fights because he knows his fights aren’t selling so well. He of course blamed the MGM for poor ticket sells.

Posted April 13, 2014 12:31 pm 


Fight Aficionado

Didn’t watch but did hear a lot about Pacquiao’s mom casting voodoo spells ringside. Someone at Youtube needs to do a highlight film showing her spells in conjunction with Pac’s punches. Did she murder a chicken at any point?

Posted April 13, 2014 12:30 pm 


Tyroc2

None of my comments included logic such:”since A did this against B it can be expected that A will do the same against C’. That is precisely by we say “play the damn game, talk is cheep”. Logic comparing A to B=C is only good for algebra. In the fight game that is know as ‘E.X.C.U.S.E.S’. It is the equivalence of …well…pulling it out of your assets. LOL.

Posted April 13, 2014 12:30 pm 


lou

Ok so now Manny has to prove himself against JMM. Manny will be 50 by the time he cleans up his own messes.

Posted April 13, 2014 12:24 pm 


Anonymous

Arum did what any reasonable promoter would have done. floyd’s fight is nearly 3 weeks away but place is littered with floyd/maidan posters and not pac/bradley’s????? That makes no sense. I would have done the same. Arum too has a constitutional right to say what’s on his mind..that’s never been a crime.!!

Posted April 13, 2014 12:24 pm 


lou

Two fights ago Manny was dear death balls first on the canvas. He no longer can punch. Mayweather will give him a sickening beating.

Posted April 13, 2014 12:23 pm 


lou

So against what does it say about Manny if Floyd fought many of Manny’s opponents BEFORE Manny did? Floyd doesn’t have ko losses to Torrecampo, Singsurat and Marquez and do you really think Eric Morales would have busted Floyd up? You are yet another delusional Pactard. Floyd was beating world class fighters while you boy was getting KTFO btw Thai cab drivers.

Posted April 13, 2014 12:21 pm 


Tyroc2

@poppan I think you’re on to something there but if Pac had KO’d JMM or anyone/everyone else for that matter the last few years it would have only meant that we would have more likely seen planet Nibaru by now then a MM vs Pacman fight. ROTFLMFAO.

Posted April 13, 2014 12:20 pm 


Anonymous

Seems like Dumbo will be among the minute few who will be throwing good money after bad in his interest to watch the “long anticipated” and “eagerly awaited,” (yeah right)Floyd/maidana mismatch. Does anyone in their right mind think maidana has the even the slightest chance of winning???? Fights sell because of the main event not because of undercards. Everyone and their mother wrote off Pac as being in a deep spiral decline that he should have considered retirement just because JMM got lucky with the only hail mary he will ever see in his life. In fact, many felt it was a certain loss for Pac last night but alas and as expected, the doubters, haters and border crossing folks in the south could not be more incorrect! The value of last night’s fight was in not knowing who would be victorious aside from the fact, it was an action packed fight from beginning to end. This is the type of value that never surfaces in any of Floyd’s fights because his fights are very predictable. Certainly everyone already knows maidana has no chance in hell to win so if you’re content in throwing money away for something that is already a known and expected, go right ahead but paying $70 in return for something you already know will happen.

Posted April 13, 2014 12:19 pm 


Haimat

It’s interesting to see these fan boys defending Floyd, Al Haymond and the rest of the people who are doing everything in their power to prevent great fights from happening.

Posted April 13, 2014 12:18 pm 


Haimat

Floyd has been cherry picking his whole career. Fighting an Argentinian b lever slugger with no chance in hell ain’t nothing new. He fought baldomir a few years back. Sleeping pill

Posted April 13, 2014 12:14 pm 


Martin

Apart from the reasons already mentioned (i.e. that he may now finally getting ready to finally sacrifice his favourite cash cow for a final enormous payday), I should think Arum is doing this right now mainly because he felt his pride had been wounded by the fact that at the press conference for Bradley-Pacquiao the place was covered in Mayweather-Maidana posters. It could even be that he’s not yet ready to sell off his cash cow, and said all this simply in order to rile Mayweather/GBP/Showtime. After all, he’s hardly likely to persuade many boxing fans to boycott the event, and even if he did succeed, he can’t realistically suppose that this would result in Mayweather/GBP/Showtime crawling back to the negotiation table. If anything, I should imagine it would have the opposite effect, making the rivalry all the more bitter.

Whatever the case, Arum is a despicable character indeed. One can easily imagine him being a leading slave-trader were he around a couple of centuries ago.

Posted April 13, 2014 12:13 pm 


Tyroc2

@ANON no disrespect bro but your arguments have been weak. You insist on concentrating on Arum as if he has the only role in this MM/PAC fight ducking contest. That is just weak, whack, waste. No logical conclusion in this day and age other then the obvious, MM vs Pac= Scared sh**less MM. Done Finished…DE END.

Posted April 13, 2014 12:12 pm 


Tyroc2

Some stupid comments here:

The Pac that showed up last night would get beat by MM because the logic is that Bradley a 31+ fights undefeated fighter is chopped liver. A club fighter with padded record.

Arum is the reason why the fight with Pac vs MM has not happened…RIDICULOUS BS…never happened in the history of boxing…Don King the most hated promoter of our time never had problems getting fights…that is when he had a fighter worth the cost of admission.

Insults to Pac, Insults to Arum in place of substantive comment…yeah right that sound reason…you’ve convinced us.

Oh and here is a flash…Pac is unworthy and somehow degraded cause it is rumored that a women claims he hit her and GOD FORBID scandal of all time…it was said to have been suppressed…the anonymous witness asked to have name suppressed since there is potentially no truth to this claim and they simply could not resist their 15 minutes of fame.

MM would beat Pac…cause that’s just how it is…so we sure don’t need the fight to prove it huh? MM being the good solid citizen he is does not want to take our money on such a foregone conclusion not to mention the biggest payday of his career and the one fight that will hush all his critics and solidify his legacy. Matter of fact it was even more logical to take this fight when both of them were considered in their primes. More money, more fame more everything to the winner…and its a sure thing right? MM got this right? Soooo WTF is the problem answer me that? Oh Arum…right LMFAO!!!

Posted April 13, 2014 12:03 pm 


ANON

James – we still waiting for Bob to build that stadium he claimed needed to be built for a fight of this magnitude. Besides he expects Floyd to call him, let him wait.

Posted April 13, 2014 12:01 pm 


Popkins

… Once and for all!

Posted April 13, 2014 11:59 am 


Popkins

Manny is 2:1 up against Marquez. He now also has a comfortable win against a guy who’s just whupped Juan. That’s one more psychological blow against the Mexican. Juan is also in his 40′s and has already realised his dream of beating Pacman, getting showered in glory along the way – his fire ain’t burning so brightly anymore. Pacquiao wants revenge, and a third victory over Marquez will make it 3:1. If Manny was to KO JMM, which at this point in their careers is quite possible, Pacman will have closed the case on the Mexican!

Posted April 13, 2014 11:58 am 


James

Bob Arum – Look Weve been over this a million times, OUR LINES ARE OPEN ! If he wants to fight ( Mayweather ) sit down like a normal human being at a conferance table and NEGIOATE A FRIGGIN DEAL !

Posted April 13, 2014 11:56 am 


Martin

@Hecdog

“it was incredible to see him live”

What I’d like to know is how you coped with seeing him possibly *not* (a)live — or at least with his life quite possibly seriously endangered — during those anxious moments when he lay flat on his face at the end of the last Marquez fight?

I’m not trying to upset you here, but am just curious about how someone like yourself, who quite literally *worships* Pacquiao, managed to deal with that defeat. Did you sink into a deep depression? How did you get over it? Did you tell yourself that Marquez must have been on PEDs (the very accusation which, I should imagine, you always vociferously denied when it was directed at Manny), for example?

Posted April 13, 2014 11:54 am 


ANON

Anonymous – this fight simply proves you’re the idiot who pays twice for the same fight. Pac won as well as he did last time, Arum robbed your ass by making you pay twice for the same outcome. Wise up moron.

Posted April 13, 2014 11:53 am 


Anonymous

tumbo, as usual, you’re talking out of your ass, but then, you’re mexican right?

Posted April 13, 2014 11:51 am 


te tumbo

“Arum implores fans to ‘boycott’ Mayweather-Madiana fight”(?). Mayweather v. Maidana figures to be a much better bout for the buck than last night’s. first of all, we can count on Maidana not outsmarting himself like Bradley and we can also count on “Money” to deliver the P4P goods, as usual. moreover, the undercard has compelling fighters at crossroads of their careers. it’ll be interesting to see how Love handles the much bigger Periban. there’s pressure on Khan and Broner to impress v. their designated tune-ups and common opponent. moreover, it’s Cinco de Mayo fight-weekend. ain’t nobody boycotting Cinco de Mayo.

Posted April 13, 2014 11:50 am 


Mike

I still don’t think Pac has any business at 147, there are too many fighters chasing the big money fights at weights they shouldn’t be fighting at!

Posted April 13, 2014 11:44 am 


Hecdog

Manny Pacquiao once again puts on one of the most brilliant boxing displays in the history of boxing. No he didn’t get the stoppage as I thought he would, but it was incredible to see him live. The MGM Grand was the most exciting venue I have ever seen. Cheers of “Manny “Manny” “Manny” was electrifying. I am nearly deaf due to the volume of fans cheering, yelling and screaming at every single punch Manny Pacquiao landed. This was a tough fight that had its ebbs and flows, and Bradley started off well, but Manny as great fighters do began to change things up and masterfully pick Bradley apart. Manny Pacquiao seemed to me a little over trained and his timing was off a bit, but he fought a great fight as usual and took back the the welterweight title and the P4P Boxing King title tonight. He will be even better in his next fight. I attended an after party for an hour and had to go get some sleep due to the high emotions, excitement and the joy of seeing the living legend display his boxing skills that will never come this way again once he’s gone. The speed, movement, fighting heart, mastery of the ring had me and the entire MGM crowd in awe. A fighter shouldn’t be able to do the things Manny Pacquiao does inside a ring. He’s a chess master, a Gretzky, a Willie Mays. Manny Pacquiao solidified himself as the greatest fighter of all time and the greatest athlete of all time. I wanted to chisel out a piece of the MGM Grand to commemorate this artist. I ran into Roy Jones Jr, Terrence Crawford, Chavez and many more athletes like Charles Barkley. Manny Pacquiao brought home the title and gave everyone in the world a reason to smile and celebrate. What a victory, what a victory, what a victory. Manny Pacquiao gave me a Birthday present that I will never forget. I was in the presence of greatness. You will never see another 8 division boxing champion again. Manny’s mother was a blessing to see. She loves her son to no ends and watched and prayed for her loving son. This brought tears to my eyes. And then to see her hug Timothy Bradley like she did is as touching as you will ever see. Jinkee must be smiling with true joy to to her wonderful husband win back and bring home to his wife, family and his people another championship. Boxing is Manny Pacquiao. The world will never be the same once the PEOPLE’S Champion leaves this wonderful sport. This is the sport that the poor can relate to the best. Struggles, mental toughness, hope for the future, survival, instinct, going another step when you don’t think you can, fighting until the end. This is boxing, and that’s why so many people love Manny Pacquiao. What we witnessed today is the most loved, treasured and admired athlete of all times come back after all the tough times he’s endured in the last few years. He could have retired for good, but he didn’t. He could have lost faith, but he didn’t. He could have blamed everyone for his tough times, but he didn’t. What he did was trust God and not let go of his faith. The road tonight was not an easy one to take. There was pain, uncertainty and some rough goings, but Manny kept his faith and fought his way to a victory for those people that need it most in life. Manny carried all of us on his shoulders tonight, and he did not let us down. People, it’s time you give Manny Pacquiao his credit even if you don’t like him. He’s a wonderful person, true champion and a man that loves God. Trust me on this. Manny is the best!

Posted April 13, 2014 11:40 am 


mrmdz

PAC looked great last night and still has something left in the tank. Can he beat May? It would be interesting to say the least. I hope PAC vs May happens but as long as Arum is in the picture, it won’t. I feel bad for PAC.

Posted April 13, 2014 11:37 am 


Livershot

The Pacquaio vs Mayweather hype is over that fight doesn’t have the same appeal that is use to. Pacquaio has a list of fighter he can fight. Canelo would make money because he bring all the Mexican fans. Garcia would be a good fight he brings all the Puerto Rican fans. Matthesia, Broner, Kahn, Thurman, take your pick. Pick a venue in Mexico, Puerto Rico, Argentina, England and the locals will sellout the place. Broner will draw the fans that want to see him lose again. Thurman still an unknown to non-boxing fans but boxing fans will tune in. That same list goes for Bradley who didn’t really take a beating last night. He can get in the ring with any of those guys. Hope he can shake that title of “Accidental Champion”

Posted April 13, 2014 11:27 am 


Anonymous

To Floydiots, it was a mediocre fight. To true and dedicated boxing fans, it was as good as it gets to see a fight between two well respected fighters who gave their all and provide excitement throughout. And to think….both of these fighters have been at the welterweight division many years. Floyd too has been at the WW limit for years but his next opponent certainly hasn’t. His opponent beat a less than mediocre broner who didn’t belong at WW and proves maidana may not be ready for the WW division just yet. Now, knowing this, does anyone expect maidana/floyd fight to be worth the money he’s going to strip from you all?? Does anyone really expect floyd to lose and does anyone realistically believe maidana will win or even beat floyd?? Go ahead, give your money to something everyone and their mother, including Stevie Wonder, know who’s going to win.

Posted April 13, 2014 11:25 am 


amor

Floyd would never fight manny even at this time. a lot of us have noticed that pac is no longer the pac of old. Floyd is the same! he is not going to risk his health and end up like ali. great fighters fight the best at their very best! something that Floyd never did.

Posted April 13, 2014 11:22 am 


Manny The Magnificent

My friends and fellow fights fans, MANNY IS BACK! With a WIDE, CLEAR and COMPREHENSIVE UNANIMOUS POINTS DECISION of 116-112, 116-112 and 118-110, MANNY has TRULY STAMPED himself as an ALL TIME GREAT and a LEGENDARY FIGHTER. Manny was throwing punches in bunches, was quick, slick with all the tricks, was here, there and everywhere, like a Will o The Wisp of the ring like the Manny of old again, with too MUCH speed and workrate for a valiant Tim Bradley. Manny is like a Young God bestriding the Fight Game like a Colossus. Once Again, Manny was a Peerless Punching Punishing Precise Paragon of Perfection, AND a Fearless Ferocious Fighting Filipino Phenomenon as he Took Apart the Undefeated P4P #3 in Decisive Style. They said the Pacman was down for the count, done, defeated, gone for good. Oh ye of little faith…Instead, he’s Back On Top of The World! Manny Pacquiao, an Unprecedented 8 WEIGHT WORLD CHAMPION and FIGHTER OF THE DECADE is STILL A GLOBAL SUPERSTAR. MANNY, quite simply, is THE BEST.

Posted April 13, 2014 11:21 am 


Anonymous

Do not buy the circus of fraud maywheater on may ……..he is mpthing but a .clowm avoidimg his biggest threat

Posted April 13, 2014 11:16 am 


ANON

Rob must take us for fools thinking we don’t know that Pac vs JMM 5 has finalised @ Top Skank. That’s 10 fights vs 3 boxers ( JMM X5, Morales X3, Bradley X2). Talk about ripping fools off.

Posted April 13, 2014 11:14 am 


Kareem Abdul-Jabaar

Gayweather will never fight Pacman he is to scared, who has ever heard a fighter tell another fighter drop your promoter then we can negotiate, absolute bs from the gay one.

Posted April 13, 2014 11:13 am 


lou

Oscar hoped Arum would be dead by now. Pu55y Pacquiao wont leave his pimp.

Posted April 13, 2014 11:11 am 


te tumbo

“Manny Pacquiao looked very good last night in gaining “revenge” over the man who officially defeated him . . .” but as i previously posted, if Pacquiao* defeats Bradley it will simply mean that Bradley is not that great. Bradley had all of the tools to defeat Pacqquiao* but it always boils down to execution. it was Bradley’s fight to lose or win, which he seemed to be doing up until the 5th round. he was tagging Pacquiao* with flush-shots and just as importantly absorbing flush-shots from Manny* without any lingering effects. then his focus inexplicably wavered, his fight-plan began to unravel, and his execution was all over the place(?!). till that point, the advantage and momentum was his but Pacquiao* weathered the initial challenge and went on to earn the UD win. accordingly, Bradley is simply not that great and the slimmer Pacquiao* remains a very good welter with a degree less potency in his punches.

Posted April 13, 2014 11:10 am 


lou

Roach says Manny is “broke as a joke” and not a peep out of Pactards. Malignaggi, Atlas, Clinton, and even ROACH are suspicious of Ariza, but its Floyd who gets sued. A woman in the PI claims Manny hit her and its buried so deep in Filipino newspapers you need the NSA to find it. Go figure.

Posted April 13, 2014 11:10 am 


ANON

Ted “theo” – you’re an idiot and should be first in line to suck Arum’s dick till he builds that stadium.

Posted April 13, 2014 11:08 am 


Proud African

Canelo will beat Pac.

Posted April 13, 2014 11:06 am 


lou

I hope the fight somehow gets made…of course Manny has never beaten JMM. He is 0-4 according to many pundits.

Posted April 13, 2014 11:04 am 


Ghetto Thug

“Funny how Arum always says the right thing to stop the fight from happening.”……… this

Posted April 13, 2014 11:03 am 


lou

Another mediocre Pac man performance without coming close to a stoppage and Manny is Ray Robinson again lol

Posted April 13, 2014 11:02 am 


Ghetto Thug

Arum is asking for mega fight to be made, does it mean that the outdoor stadium is already built??

Posted April 13, 2014 11:02 am 


lou

So an undefeated Canelo who Manny avoided is now a pushover?

Posted April 13, 2014 11:01 am 


rod

Come on PAC against MONEY. Just get it done!!!

Posted April 13, 2014 11:00 am 


lou

Funny how Arum always says the right thing to stop the fight from happening.

Posted April 13, 2014 11:00 am 


runny Ho Ho

Mayfeather is Pussita if he do not fight Manny. A Pussita !!

Posted April 13, 2014 10:59 am 


Julian

Funny how Arum always says the right thing to stop the fight from happening.

Posted April 13, 2014 10:59 am 


Martin

Has Arum EVER called for Mayweather-Pacquiao to happen before now? I certainly don’t remember him ever pushing for it to happen when the fans who pay his wages were demanding it; quite the opposite in fact. That shows you exactly what sort of scumbag the man is, and “Money” is the same.

Unfortunately, the vast majority of the fans fail to realise that they’re being taken for a ride, and will continue to shell out their hard earned wages to line the pockets of these greedy bastards, despite the fact hat they have never done anything but treat them with contempt while making themselves disgustingly rich off them.

Posted April 13, 2014 10:53 am 


PEEJ

First off congrats to Pac. Though if you didn’t have this fight close then you can’t score fights. This was a 116 to 114 type of fight. Pac clearly won again. Really no need for a rubber match in this case. Bradley did stand his ground and it is clear Pac does not punch as hard as he used to but good win and at least it was entertaining. Undercard was not very good but what else are you to expect from Arum. That being said Arum is just a stupid senile old man. Plain and simple.

Posted April 13, 2014 10:52 am 


Martin

@Boxer

Exactly.

Posted April 13, 2014 10:44 am 


Jay rock

How can Arum even say they, we should not pay for both fights! I mean mayweather called him and offered him 40 million! Arum is the whole reason this fight did not happen!

Posted April 13, 2014 10:39 am 


Ted “Theodore” Logan

Floyd would never fight someone like Bradley yes he has undeniable skill but lacks heart needed to step in with the best competition that’s the final chapter in the mayweather book

Posted April 13, 2014 10:38 am 


Armandeus

Manny looks good, but Mayweather punch harder than Bradley. Money is a bigger, smarter, better, and stronger version of Marquez. Manny have no chance angainst Floyd, he will be punished him so hard in any move, any step, any attack.. Thats for sure !!!

Posted April 13, 2014 10:25 am 


mephisto

of the first 6 rounds, what round Manny won?

Posted April 13, 2014 10:25 am 


Martin

@Prof Konje

“Could Arum possibly be in legal trouble for suggesting a boycott of the Mayweather fight?”

No. There’s this thing called freedom of speech that’s vouchsafed by the First Amendment to the US Constitution. If you were a professor of anything, you’d know that.

@Brutus

Not really, no. Admittedly, purely from a boxing point of view, it remains a better match-up than e.g. Mayweather vs Maidana, or Mayweather vs Khan, or Mayweather vs Collazo. However, it seems to me that Mayweather and Arum are the two individuals most responsible for making sure the fight didn’t happen years ago — i.e. back when the entire world’s boxing fans were demanding it — and I’m not at all keen to see them become even more disgustingly rich from those same fans now (i.e. now that Mayweather can feel justly confident he’ll win because Manny is way past his prime, and that Arum has realised that his favourite cash cow’s days are numbered so wants to make one last gargantuan payday from him and the fans by trying to fool the latter into believing that it would still be a hugely significant event).

You might argue that Pacquiao was no less responsible for it not taking place, but if that’s the case the same thing applies: if he was indeed equally responsible for preventing the fight from happening when the fans really wanted it, I don’t think he should be granted the opportunity to get even more filthy rich off those same fans now.

The only circumstance in which I’d be happy to see this fight take place now is if all the money went to charity (as I believe Manny once suggested it should). Since that’s not going to happen, no, I can do without it.

Mayweather is the undisputed P4P no. 1. Good for him, but the fact remains that he’s never been in any truly exciting or memorable fights, and I believe he will be remembered as much for having always ducked the biggest challenges and for refusing to take risks as for his redoubtable boxing prowess. He may well be the most talented defensive fighter in the history of the sport, but for me, defensive fighting doesn’t make for great or memorable fights, and when that defensiveness extends to refusing to take any risky fights, I find it contemptible.

Aside from his unquestionable talent, Mayweather has made huge amounts of money not (as he fondly likes to imagine) because he’s popular, but rather because he’s reviled. I am quite sure that he will be bankrupt within five or ten years of having retired, and that disgusts me too, because we all know that this money will have been squandered on himself, and on further boosting his own already massively overinflated ego, while very little of it will have gone towards helping others or doing any good in the world.

Posted April 13, 2014 10:17 am 


Popkins

8 rounds to 2 for Pacman last night. 2 rounds even. PAC boxed superbly against the No.3 P4P fighter in the world. But Manny had to b more selective with his punches to cover the cracks in his stamina, he was easier to hit than ever, and his general ferocity is diminished. After 60+ fights, with his style, and at 35 that’s inevitable. Manny shud fight JMM to avenge that loss. And then possibly have the final fight of his career against the Martinez/Cotto winner, for the linear middleweight title, making him a 9 division champ, and upstaging Mayweather in the process. If Floyd accepts a fight now, it is purely because he feels Manny is ripe for the taking – cherry picking. It will merely prove that he was ducking Manny in his prime years…

Posted April 13, 2014 10:16 am 


Ted “Theodore” Logan

Bradley’s wife is in here posting under the Mephistopheles tag

Posted April 13, 2014 10:14 am 


screwy louie

Floyd needs to shut everybody up.

Posted April 13, 2014 10:14 am 


Ted “Theodore” Logan

Bradley got schooled and cried another leg injury what a bum

Posted April 13, 2014 10:13 am 


mephisto

Bradley won the first 6 rounds, so even if he lost the next 6, the fight should be at least a draw. Tim was a victim of the effects of the first fight.He was robbed. Blind.

Posted April 13, 2014 10:10 am 


Duckweather*

Hi, Floyd* here. I sure as hell didn’t want Manny in 2010 and I STILL don’t want him! Are you tryna get me beat?!?

Posted April 13, 2014 10:08 am 


john smith

Illusion on Tim goes away lost 2 fights …..Mayducker still the Queen of boxing …Pacman is the King ….to my Afrrican Bros…. your man need to get out of the closet hahahahaha

Posted April 13, 2014 10:08 am 


mephisto

ted logan, you are talking when you should be listening.

Posted April 13, 2014 10:06 am 


Ted “Theodore” Logan

Mephisto…take you pill before posting

Posted April 13, 2014 10:03 am 


Doggie

Pac vs provodnikov would ve exciting. Pac vs khan or pac maidana. Because of their styles & with the exception of khan “the only all around better fighter ” they’re forward fighting agressive styles are exciting to watch. Khan’s counter punching yet weak chin make it exciting as well because of the “what if” effect of getting caught with Pac’s powerful punches. Mayweather is too skilled for all those guys & lacks the killer instict to ko any of them unless they drop their hands and he sucker punches. = boring lopsided fights.

Posted April 13, 2014 10:00 am 


mephisto

everybody is happy with this bs decision because of the first fight. The first fight was a draw, but Tim beat Manny this time.

Posted April 13, 2014 9:58 am 


birdhead

Manny pulled out of the march 2010 fight. He wants floyd to age more

Posted April 13, 2014 9:49 am 


Doggie

Thanks for the advise Bob Arum but i was already not gonna watch it. I can watch sparring sessions for free all day at the gym. What a complete mismatch… & a waste of money$$

Posted April 13, 2014 9:48 am 


birdhead

Manny can’t stop a piece of paper rolling down the street.

Posted April 13, 2014 9:48 am 


mephisto

hecubus, time for new glasses.

Posted April 13, 2014 9:47 am 


birdhead

He was supposes to stop Bradley while never letting up. Instead of talking smack Arum needs to make the damn fight before Manny gets knocked out by Marquez again.

Posted April 13, 2014 9:46 am 


mephisto

Tim won the first 6 rounds and at least another round. Tim was robbed blind.

Posted April 13, 2014 9:45 am 


mephisto

BS, Tim was robbed.

Posted April 13, 2014 9:43 am 


hecubus

Whoops…i meant 9-3 (typo)

Posted April 13, 2014 9:39 am 


hecubus

It wasnt close….i had it 8-3 for paquiao

Posted April 13, 2014 9:39 am 


fridog

Martin, your post is sad but true. The Pac/Money fight is long passed. I will go a step further. Pac would have won an outstanding fight with money in 08, 09 or 10. But even with his win last night which was impressive, it appears that he has lost some of his pop. Be it as it may, he is the fighter of last decade.

Posted April 13, 2014 9:34 am 


Hidalg0

And here we go again with the Pacquiao/Mayweather rant.

Posted April 13, 2014 9:33 am 


Hidalg0

Proud African, you’re an idiot.

Posted April 13, 2014 9:32 am 


Proud African

The Pacquiao that showed up against Bradley will be soundly whipped by Floyd Mayweather. The Pac-Bradley fight was much closer than the Lampley’s and some of the judges will have you believe.

Posted April 13, 2014 9:31 am 


skinnysteve

a-rum cuts his own throat

Posted April 13, 2014 9:17 am 


Brutus

Martin, whatever! I still want them to fight. Don’t you?

Posted April 13, 2014 9:15 am 


Xavier

Thinking about it, Martin makes some good points here. 2009, 2010 would have been the best time for a Floyd-Manny bout. Manny is not quite at his absolute best these days and has more mileage on the clock than Floyd. Even though in some ways I’d still like a Floyd-Manny fight, the Pacman isn’t going to leave Top Rank anyway, so if Floyd maintains his present stance, the fight won’t happen. Hopefully Manny just has a few fights left and gets out at the top. Fighter Of The Decade indeed…

Posted April 13, 2014 9:14 am 


Prof Konje

Could Arum possibly be in legal trouble for suggesting a boycott of the Mayweather fight?

Posted April 13, 2014 9:13 am 


Martin

Incidentally, the Pacquiao fans who continue to maintain that Manny is still as good as ever and would whoop Mayweather are precisely the people doing Manny the most disservice. If they continue to maintain that, and the fight happens, they will be forced to concede that Mayweather is, and always was, the superior fighter. That is because while Pacquiao had a great chance against Mayweather back in 2009-10, he really wouldn’t now. Pacquiao fans should rest content in the knowledge that Pacquiao was the Fighter of the Decade in the 2000s, and admit that he is now well past his prime.

Posted April 13, 2014 8:58 am 


Jonn E. JaGozza

A boycott , I don’t think so, but what I’d like to see is several other fights first as I think Mayweather would have no problems with Manny.. How about Manny against either Khan, Broner, Maidana or PORTER, I do think Manny would struggle with Porter, then if he’s still champ.OK then, Mayweater… Not a true test for Manny last night, Bradley couldn’t figure out what the hell he wanted to do… He was trying to make a statement but ended up making a fool out of himself… Boxing dictionary.com .. ” The Language of the Ring “

Posted April 13, 2014 8:53 am 


Martin

@Popkins

I agree. The fight should have happened four or five years ago. The time for it has long since passed. Yes, Mayweather would win now, but I don’t think Pacquiao should give him the opportunity.

Realistically speaking, however, Pacquiao will push for it, as will Arum and Roach, even if none of them really expect him to win, because of the insane amount of money at stake.

Posted April 13, 2014 8:52 am 


Popkins

Floyd ducked Manny throughout his prime years. I don’t think Pacman shud fight Mayweather now.

Posted April 13, 2014 8:30 am 



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