Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. LionKing)
“Squared Circle, those thoughts are in your mind only–I didn’t insinuate or say any of those things, nor did I compare Wlad to anyone else. I was talking about Wlad only.”
Hidalg0: Of course you were comparing Wlad to other fighters. It’s obvious and goes without saying. That’s the only possible way you could establish a standard for an acceptable amount of leaning, clinching and holding — and then deduct that Wlad does more of that than what you consider acceptable. In your own words, “pathetically so.” So in reality, the premise that you did not insinuate comparisons exists in your mind only.Posted April 19, 2014 12:48 pm
Gene Tunney as well.Posted April 19, 2014 2:36 am
PEEJ says.., “Problem is Ali was like 80 when they fought Holmes.”
No he wasn’t.. He was 38.. Same age as Wladimir is now.
Heavyweights certainly DO belong on a P4P list… If the heavyweight champ is among the active best boxers put him on the list … If he’s not don’t…
Jack Johnson, Joe Louis, Larry Holmes, Lennox Lewis, and Vitali Klitschko were some of the best fighters of their day.Posted April 19, 2014 2:36 am
Where did this list come from?. Compare it to the Ring list.Posted April 18, 2014 3:21 pm
Dipinds on my promotor, Bob ArumPosted April 18, 2014 8:11 am
ordinary boxing fan
Abthurmal, so where is Maidana in top ten of lb for lb welters? I guess he is in your top 2.Posted April 18, 2014 2:03 am
ordinary boxing fan
AbThurmal, so is this the first time that Mayweather, the best of the bests, and the all time greatest, not fighting a pound for pouns boxer?Posted April 18, 2014 2:02 am
Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. LionKing)
“And great leaning, clinching, and holding skills. Pathetically so.”
Oh okay, whatever you say. As if Lewis and Ali didn’t employ the exact same tactics… lol. But Wlad is somehow held to a completely different standard. HWs lean, clinch and hold considerably more than fighters in the lighter weight-classes. Always have and always will.Posted April 17, 2014 10:23 pm
“floyds beaten 20 world champs”
cool now state their names so we can laugh then state their records and how washed up they were for instance post retired oscar. its funny fraud fans default to this generic general line “he has beat x ammount if champs and x ammount of p4p”
how about list frauds top 5 opponentsPosted April 17, 2014 10:14 pm
Bears you are the fraud. Floyd has beaten what, 20 world champions? Idiots like you continually raise the bar for Mayweather.Posted April 17, 2014 9:52 pm
floyd p4p number 1? for beating ortiz, guerrero, maidana, kahn, boiled down and out canelo? I DONT THINK SO SON. tell him to beat bradley twice. tell him to travel back in time and fight paul williams, kostya tszu, winkey wright, margarito with cement hands and no losses, serg martinez, etc.
Mayweather should not make anyones number one p4p. Based solely on the fights he chose to make. He has take an EXTREME version of the path of least resistance. I have never seen someone duck so many fighters and carefully pick who he chose to fight. mayweather is a fraud at this point. a circus act. you buy a live circus act ppv coming up with maidana in itPosted April 17, 2014 8:13 pm
Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. LionKing)
“So stop with that nonsense. Quillen has called him out, overrated Martinez said he would fight him. So stop with that garbage.”
Again, please stop with the pathological lying you sociopath. Quillin and Maravilla NEVER once called out 3G or agreed to fight him. In fact, the exact opposite is true. 3G has been calling both of the them out for over two years and they’ve been avoiding him like the plague. If PQ and SM had said that, 3G would’ve accepted those challenges in a NY minute because he badly wants to unify the titles at MW. Instead, SM chose to fight Cotto and PQ chose to fight some can that nobody’s ever even heard of.Posted April 17, 2014 8:09 pm
i would say pacman dumping jmm all the time is pretty redeeming so is looking like he was about to stop jmm in their last bout.
I dont understand why te tumbo does not put a start next to the guy who is willling to drink his own urine if it will give him an edge. a guy with new found muscle mass at size at 42!! jmm* son.
it does not matter the tape has always shown pac is a supperior boxer. some haters may want to make more of a sweet shot landing but we know thats just about hate. nobody calls jmm a better or greater fighter than pacman NOBODY. maybe the lead hater and detractor te tumbo*.
I would say pacman erased a TON of the bitterness of that loss to jmm by smoking bradley TWICE SON!!! as bradley dominated jmm*. In fact there is even an article on east side above saying it!!! yep te tumbo is hating it!!
hahahahaahhahPosted April 17, 2014 8:09 pm
Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. LionKing)
“Problem is Ali was like 80 when they fought.”
LOL… you do a great deal of lying and exaggerating on ESB. Ali was only 38 when he got absolutely dominated and OWNED by Holmes. Wlad is 38 right now. Are you gonna make the same age-related excuses for Wlad if he happens to lose a fight at this point??? Didn’t think so, you totally biased idiot!Posted April 17, 2014 8:00 pm
Manny Pacquiao is clearly the greatest fighter in the history of boxing. He has accomplished more than any boxer in history, His physical boxing skills, abilities and talent can be matched by no one. He has carried and dominated this beautiful sport for over 10 years. His convincing, spectacular victory of Timothy Bradley last weekend closed the door on who was the better fighter. Manny Pacquiao has no more questions left to answer. The vast majority of boxing fans come to the same conclusion as I do. There has never been a better fighter that fought all challengers regardless of weight class, and brought more excitement to boxing than Manny Pacquiao. Boxing was in a frenzy every time Manny Pacquiao entered the squared circle to take on, and beat yet another world class fighter. He is the number UNO P4P fighter today. His tax issues are being resolved, and he will not be in need of money. His future is secure, trust me. He has so many avenues outside of boxing to make a living from. His endorsement deals are very rewarding financially. He is the most sought after person in the world today. His influence in society continues to make it’s way into every stitch of society. Manny Pacquiao is more than just a hero to everyone, he’s a blanket that clothes peoples hearts. Manny Pacquiao has an aura about him that speaks of love, respect and humility. Manny is a fighter that puts his heart and soul into each fight and asks for nothing in return. He continues to have the discipline and honor he’s always had for the sport of boxing. Manny Pacquaio is a good man in a bad sport. Corruption is always around the corner waiting to get him, but he is the only fighter I can recall that keeps his integrity and loyalty to his friends, family and those that gave him the opportunity to make a living. This is a true and genuine man that will stand up for what’s right in the face of death. We will see the greatest fighter in history fight again. He doesn’t need the arrogant, selfish, materialistic, money hungry Floyd Mayweather. He doesn’t need whining, crying, cheating, lying Juan Manuel Marquez. They need him. Manny Pacquiao has graced us with his presence for many years. I will send a letter asking congress and president Obama to have a day of celebration for Manny Pacquiao once he calls it a day. Manny Pacquiao will break a lot of hearts, and the world must create more oceans so that the tears of Manny Pacquiao will fill them up once he’s retired. Trust me, there will never be another Manny Pacquiao. And also trust me when i say that Manny Pacquiao has a little more work to finish. Manny is the best ever!Posted April 17, 2014 7:03 pm
ordinary boxing fan
Maidana not in the top 10?
^that’s why you’re an ordinary boxing fan….this is p4p top 10, not top 10 welterweights. fool.Posted April 17, 2014 6:47 pm
We have no problem with Mayweather’s skill and greatness. We just want to see the fight.Posted April 17, 2014 6:32 pm
PEEJ it’s Mayweather who doesn’t want the fight it is not Bob Arum. Watch the post fight interview of Bradley Pacquiao 2. But if you want to scratch Bob arum, then that’s the problem. I bet Mayweather will find another excuse if ever manny gets rid of Arum. He will give manny again a very unreasonable and insulting offer to make sure manny won’t accept it. Mayweather will price himself out again. And we all knew that.Posted April 17, 2014 6:29 pm
ordinary boxing fan
Maidana not in the top 10?Posted April 17, 2014 6:11 pm
“. . . but he is [the owner of a DEVASTATING KO over Manny*] as he does not [HAVE] to even negotiate a fifth fight”. Pacquiao* either accepts his conditions (guaranteed $25 million in Mexico City) or he goes down as NEVER having redeemed being victimized by the most Brutal Rivalry-Ending KO in Boxing History . . . Never.Posted April 17, 2014 5:50 pm
Can’t make a fight with someone when the promoter doesn’t allow it. No matter how much one fighter wants it. If the promoter doesn’t want it then it’s not happeningPosted April 17, 2014 5:39 pm
Everything fan’s say about floyd good or bad is true.
Floyds a great talent and a cherry picker since he beat a undersized hatton.
Floyds a master in the ring but I always have these what if moments in my mind that make me question how good he really is. He’s just two solid fights in a row of fighting two boxers in their prime and in his weight division to take away that doubt.
Inexperienced canelo and in 2015 a washed up pac just won’t close the deal.Posted April 17, 2014 5:39 pm
T Tumbo – Marquez is not greater, but he is a greater coward as he does not want to even negotiate a fifth fight.Posted April 17, 2014 5:29 pm
Garbage list. A chicken is on top of the list.Posted April 17, 2014 5:19 pm
look i like floyd and have been a fan for many years and ive always avoided the endless PBF VS pacman debate but no sucker in there right mind can seriously say that the fight isn’t happening for any other reason other than floyd doesn’t want it. although i think floyd is p4p no1 i cant put him there because he is ducking!!every other guy on that list is on there because they beat or fought the best in there division except FLoyd!!!! take him off!Posted April 17, 2014 5:07 pm
Reminder to Pactards. Its not just Floyd who is better than Manny.Posted April 17, 2014 4:46 pm
Pactards boycott this list! Lol.Posted April 17, 2014 4:45 pm
The heavyweights is riddled with light skin men over the past decade therefore I can’t alow heavyweights into the discussion.
I’m a big fan of Rigo and was giving him props before the bandwagoners did once he beat Donaire. But Rigo at 3? He doesn’t have enough fights to be that high. The PFP takes into account the boxers’ entire career as well as recent results. He’s top 10 but more like 7 or 8.Posted April 17, 2014 2:14 pm
GGG is impressive but not tested. Chavez will test him. I’m going for Chavez.
Hopkins vs shumanov. I’ll go for Hopkins
Mayweather – Maidana. I’ll go for Mayweather. So that PAC – May on September.
Khan-collaso. I’ll go collaso. To get Khan out of the way of PAC – May
Broner-Molina. No match. Broner
Marquez – Alvarado. Very competitive fight. Marquez by knockout. Alvarado by decision. I’ll go for Marquez so that there will be more interesting matchups to come.
Klitschko will win
Stevenson will win
Froch will win
Donaire will win.Posted April 17, 2014 2:13 pm
Martinez and Ward have been pretty inactive due to injury and legal troubles. They were once a clear cut #3-4 but things change sometimes even when guys don’t lose.Posted April 17, 2014 2:11 pm
Problem is Ali was like 80 when they foughtPosted April 17, 2014 1:36 pm
“Holmes was the only good boxer Ali ever fought who matched Ali in height and size.” Well said, Tark.Posted April 17, 2014 1:30 pm
The other middles are not scared of GGG. That is just what people try to day. They said the same thing about Margacheato and Paul Williams. The so called most feared fighters in boxing. So stop with that nonsense. Quillen has called him out, overrated Martinez said he would fight him. So stop with that garbage. I agree GGG is not gonna be beat but his body of work is still not P4PPosted April 17, 2014 1:11 pm
You are 100% wrong Tark. Heavies do not belong on this list. And since Ali was a heavy he would not be added to the list.Posted April 17, 2014 1:04 pm
PEEJ says.., “Heavies have no place on this list.”
You would be the first one to put Ali on the list if he was active.
Ali was 38 when he suffered his fourth (4th) loss to Larry Holmes, losing every minute of every round before quitting meekly in his corner. Holmes was the only good boxer Ali ever fought who matched Ali in height and size.
Wladimir is 38 and has been at his peak for 5 years. He’s truly a formidable heavyweight with a great jab, great right hand, great left hook, and great boxing skills. He’s beaten 2 Olympic Gold Medal winners and several Heavyweight Champions. He’s defended the Heavyweight Championship against more southpaws than all other Heavyweight Champions combined, not named Klitschko. Wladimir hasn’t been beaten for 10 years and is still going strong. He certainly deserves a Top-10 P4P designation since he could beat any boxer in the world.
PEEJ says.., “GGG and Kovalev don’t have the body of work to be added.”
The top middleweights are scared sh!tless of Golovkin. The top light heavyweight are scared sh!tless of Kovalev. With good reason I might add. They would all be crushed. Those two are recognized as the best in the world at their weight. Golovkin is fighting Chavez out of frustration — but he still has his eye on Martinez if he can get him after the Martinez-Cotto fight.Posted April 17, 2014 1:00 pm
^something like thatPosted April 17, 2014 12:51 pm
Manny no. 1. I can’t agree putting Mayweather at the top until he proves it by beating Pacquiao.Posted April 17, 2014 12:38 pm
And if folks are saying P4P is saying you could beat anybody at the same weight then Wlad definitely would not be on it. But I still maintain heavies have no place on this list. GGG and Kovalev don’t have the body of work to be added also. Donaire has been taken off because he was overrated in the first place. He was beating old fighters, smaller fighters, and fighters about to retire. He has struggled with every fighter he has fought since Rigo. Donaire is just overrated. Garcia definitely deserves to be on the list. His body of work is great. Pac deserves to be on the list as well but based on current body of work he should not be ranked that high. Agreed, Ward needs to get back to work.Posted April 17, 2014 12:33 pm
Mayweather Haters = Racists !!!!!!! – (You hate what you can’t be) LOL !!!Posted April 17, 2014 12:20 pm
te tumbo, you make every topic about Marquez so I’m taking you on. Marquez* is 0-1 vs Bradley, 1-1-2 vs Pacquiao and 0-1 vs Mayweather. These are the facts, fanboy!Posted April 17, 2014 11:57 am
te tumbo, did you read my stats, you fanboy?!?Posted April 17, 2014 11:54 am
Marquez DEMOLISHED and FLATTENED Manny* after taking him to boxing school in III, being robbed in II, and coming back from a 3-KD first-round. Marquez is Greater!Posted April 17, 2014 11:47 am
“Marquez*” why are you so afraid of me that you have to post under a fake handle? . . . (lol) . . . UnFnFadeable . . . :twisted:Posted April 17, 2014 11:45 am
I forgot..Marquez*, who is 0-1 down to Bradley and 1-1-2 down to Pacquiao, got owned by Mayweather too, so he’s 0-1 there too!Posted April 17, 2014 11:44 am
If anyone is too high, te tumbo you Marquez fan boy, it’s Marquez* got beat by Bradley who got beat by Manny who has 2 wins over Marquez*..there now, off ya go..Posted April 17, 2014 11:41 am
“Gennardy Golvokin and Sergei Kovalev, who are the best fighter in their divisions, should to be ranked ahead of several on this list”. TARK, NO. potential doesn’t merit being incuded in any list, which is why i think Rigondeaux is rated too highly. Mares’ actual ring-accomplishments exceed those of anticipated or imaginary ring-accomplishments and Rigo hasn’t really accomplished sh*t in a pro-boxing ring.Posted April 17, 2014 11:40 am
solid list. of course, Pacquiao* is rated too highly considering he hasn’t dazzled anybody since returning from his involuntary 1-year convalescence but defeating a ring-warrior like Bradley is one recent accomplishment he deserves credit for but not enough to be rated above the likes of Wlad or Marquez who demonstrated his superiority in clear and unequivocal fashion in III and IV. Rigondeaux is also rated way too highly based on his defeat of Donaire who has noticeably slipped over the past couple of years but overall a solid list.Posted April 17, 2014 11:35 am
I’m not sure I’d have Garcia higher than Pacquiao. Pac only has losses to top-tier fighters and one of those was avenged (the other was after beating the guy already a few times depending on your perspective).
I have no problem with the inclusion of Wlad on the list. HW division isn’t as glamorous as it once was so I don’t think it’s really a case any more of giving the little guys equal respect.
I wouldn’t put Froch on this list though, especially not after the Groves fight. I think someone like a Danny Garcia has more right to be there. Also it’s interesting to see Donaire no longer appearing on any P4P list since Rigo worked him over. I’m not sure that losing to someone of that calibre justifies going from many people’s top 5 P4P to no longer being top 10 (i.e. Bradley is still in this particular list and he lost to Pacquiao… twice if we’re honest with ourselves).Posted April 17, 2014 11:29 am
Sugar Ray Robinson is mentioned. Floyd doesn’t compare to boxers like him. It’s come to something when the man rated P4P #1 today won’t fight the other great multi-weight champion boxer of the day…Boxrec has a P4P list, The Ring has…they’re all subjective anyway..Andre Ward needs to be more active to justify such a high ranking btw. Pacman is about right, I suppose. I’m counting heavyweights because it’s all boxing and Wlad Klitschko is top 6. Golovkin and Danny Garcia probably deserve a top 10 place imho.Posted April 17, 2014 11:12 am
I like Froch a lot but yall are correct he should not be on the P4P list. Wlad shouldn’t neither. Not because of what people say, it is because Heavies do not belong on the P4P list. The list was originally created for Sugar Ray Robinson. Basically to get recognition to fighters that were not heavies. If you were the Heavyweight Champ you were considered the baddest man on the planet and did not need that P4P recognition.Posted April 17, 2014 10:34 am
that was my commentPosted April 17, 2014 10:27 am
people seem to forget that P4P means the fighter would beat any other fighter were they the same weight. therefore, froch and klitschko don’t make the top 50, mikey doesn’t make the top 15. timmy is about 10Posted April 17, 2014 10:26 am
B red :)Posted April 17, 2014 9:39 am
Froch shouldn’t even be on this list!Posted April 17, 2014 9:31 am
Haimat, your joking about Lomo? ,hahahaPosted April 17, 2014 9:25 am
This list is a joke. Why is Mikey Garcia top 5? Rigo at 3? Why not put Lomachenko at 4?Posted April 17, 2014 9:19 am
Good list, but Mikey is a bit high on the list.Posted April 17, 2014 8:52 am
The comment below is the dumbest thing, I have ever read on a boxing website. Boxing is not all about KOs. I guess some people are like brain donors or need one. SimplePosted April 17, 2014 8:48 am
Ward hasn’t fought in quite a while now, he should be dropped from the list, and Floyds lack of KO power should put him at #3 Gennady should be #1 Kovalev #2 Wlad #3 atleast these guys KO people!!!!Posted April 17, 2014 8:12 am
Kovalev is close to the top and will be possibly # 1 a very ecxiting underated skillsPosted April 17, 2014 8:09 am
I think some of these fighters need to be a little more active to remain at the top of the list.Posted April 17, 2014 7:40 am
Ted “Theodore” Logan
Tim Bradley?Posted April 17, 2014 7:40 am
Funny how far people will go to justify Wlad not been higher. “he’s not bad, but…”; “he’s champ for 8 years now, but…”, “he doesn’t lose rounds, but…”. Talk about double standards.Posted April 17, 2014 6:05 am
RE MMA guys fighting boxers. An MMA guy would smash the living day lights out of most boxers,the moment the fight either went to the cage fence (or the ropes if they fight in a ring) under MMA rules.
These guys are trained to throw in clinches, (super powerful in clinches), to grapple, to use knees, kick to all parts of the body and legs.
Admittedly, we have had old boxers like TONEY and the White Rhino (can’t remember his name off hand) compete in recent MMA bouts and be totally destroyed.
If MMA guys fought in a soley stand up boxing match, they would be hammered into the canvas.
A few years ago I had a MMA guy come train with me as he wanted to be a better striker in stand up. His physical strength was amazing and he had really good endurance, but because he was a kicker his square on stance was real hard for him to break and meant at boxing he was open for all sorts of shots I fancied with my back hand.
The one thing about these guys is they train hard, learn quick and have to be proficient in at least 3 disciplines.
Boxing is boxing, but MMA is as close to legalised fighting as you can get.
I wouldn’t rate the chances of many boxers going into MMA unless they take 2 years of intensive training,
I’m still waiting for David Haye and Enzo Maccarinelli to back up their boasts and enter the cage and represent for us boxers.Posted April 17, 2014 5:41 am
I HAVE NO ISSUES with the Top 3 rankings, but I would have at #4 WLADIMIR KLITSCHKO, for longevity alone and he has been head and shoulders above his challengers for a decade now.
I to admit after the top 6, I can’t really rank too many other guys… Although Kovalev, Golovkin and Canelo have their noses in front.
Marquez, Bradley and FROCH all need to redeem themselves after all three fought really stupid fights last time out. Why aren’t we more exposed to Oriental fighters? I grew up watching the likes of Jiro Watanabe, Sun Kil Moon, Khaiosi Galaxy and more… The only guys I’ve caught recently were the Kameda brothers, so it’s really hard to just the Far Eastern fellas.
The guys who are bubbling some where under the top level are Leo Santa Cruz and Carl Frampton, who will meet shortly, Groves, if he beats FROCH, the winner of CANELO and LARA and the winner of GOLOVKIN and CHAVEZ JNR.Posted April 17, 2014 5:28 am
if anything, Floyd should fu/ck Ronda and once he’s done with her, he should fu/ck Rogan too.Posted April 17, 2014 5:11 am
Mikey needs to fight Gamboa which I’m not convinced he wins to be considered even in the top 25Posted April 17, 2014 3:53 am
Mikey? Don’t no about top 10….is there another 2 put in with Manny/Bradley/Marquez?Posted April 17, 2014 3:32 am
Just checked the real one boys. PAC is 4 behind the obvious, ward and klits. Mikey not in top 10Posted April 17, 2014 3:07 am
Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. LionKing)
Every boxing organization, magazine and website has their own P4P list and they’re all different. That’s precisely why none of them — not even Ring — should be taken too seriously. All P4P lists are based on hypothetical, dream-world scenarios that are debated and later published by boxing writers, editors and analysts. (A few are based on a voting system.)
They might as well be sitting around and arguing if Superman should be ranked higher than Batman and Spiderman on the Top 10 list of superheroes. So P4P rankings really don’t mean sh*t because they’re mere fantasy.Posted April 17, 2014 2:45 am
Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. LionKing)
Any P4P list that has PacMan ranked just one notch above Bradley, after totally outboxing him twice, shouldn’t be taken seriously. Placing Klitchko that low and completely leaving Alvarez off the list only adds to the charade.Posted April 17, 2014 2:30 am
mikey garcia above pac is insane..pac just beat a young, primed and skilled no3 top pound 4 pound fighter in d world in bradley. who did mikey fought that merit him to be on top of pac.mikey should be within d top 15-20 ranking.Posted April 17, 2014 2:16 am
pac is the no1. the best of them all..jmm must be lower coz he was just outclassed by bradley whom pac beat clearly.Posted April 17, 2014 2:11 am
Disagree with a lot of those. Andre ward needs to be busy for the number 2 spot. Mikey Garcia above PAC is laughable. Can’t argue with the top spotPosted April 17, 2014 1:57 am
These lists are individually opinion based and stupid. Example, presenting Tim Bradley in a Top 10 P4P list is ridiculous. Everyone who knows boxing has seen him lose 3 of his last 4 fights. Maybe not officially but we all know it and so does he.Posted April 17, 2014 1:53 am
No GGG?Posted April 17, 2014 1:44 am
Jazz – the writer of this Article.
PACMAN is uncomparable! He started his boxing career like no other boxer. As a young skinny kid, he fought and beat good filipino, korean, thailander, japanese, chinese. Lebanese and kazakstan fighters. He won title belts in asia and 1 world title before coming to america to win another 7 world titles by beating great mexican, african, british, puertorican and american fighters. He is the greatest filipino and asian boxer of all time. And he might have been the greatest boxer of all time only if he is an American…Posted April 17, 2014 1:39 am
“where have all the fighters gone”Posted April 17, 2014 1:08 am
Pound for pound rankings are worthless. Who did andre ward beat to make him #2? The top 3 fighters are all boring.Posted April 17, 2014 1:05 am
Peeps funny lol – scared of little PAC but dominates Canelo! Ye makes no sense – and froch #10? HilariousPosted April 17, 2014 12:56 am
Since the only p4p list thst counts is ring magazine’s this list is all wrong. 1. Mayweather, 2. Ward, 3. Klitscho, 4. Pacquiao, 5. Bradley, don’t remember who is 6, maybe Marquez and Sergio Martinez is 7. Stop it with all this made up list. Maybe I should write an article stating how I believe DLH is still welterweight champion and pass it off as fact. Apparently that is all it takes for some dips&@t to start a debate in y these boards. It is pretty bad for this site when I have to double check everything printed here to make sure I am getting facts and not some ducheb@g’s misinformed opinion.Posted April 17, 2014 12:28 am
Stark my friend, Yes, against Bradley last week, Marquez, Morales, Hatton and seen him spar and train. The man is incredible to see train.Posted April 17, 2014 12:25 am
Hecdog – we’re both sports fans & boxing nuts. Have u ever gone to see PAC box? That might be the silliest question posed! I imagine u havePosted April 17, 2014 12:01 am
i completely agree with tark.some on the list “what did they have done lately” to be rank higher against the busier fighter?Posted April 16, 2014 11:52 pm
Tark GGG haant fought anyone worth talking about…Posted April 16, 2014 11:51 pm
Gennardy Golvokin and Sergei Kovalev, who are the best fighter in their divisions, should to be ranked ahead of several on this list..
They need to be ranked ahead of Marquez, who is old and very beatable.
They need to be ranked ahead of Bradley, who is hittable and can’t punch worth a damn.
They need to be ranked ahead of Carl froch… Who is extremely punchable, uncoordinated, slow, and floored hard by a green punk kid who can’t box in hs last fight.
They need to be ranked ahead of Roman Gonzalez, who hasn’t beaten anybody anyone has ever heard of…
At least Golovkin and Kovalev have beaten people who fans HAVE heard of, and are ranked ahead of everyone at 160 and 175 respectively, based on their boxing ability and fearsome punching power.
I would also say Nonito Donaire shouldn’t be pushed out of the Top-10 based on a single loss to a masterful boxer.Posted April 16, 2014 11:46 pm
Stark my friend, yes, I follow baseball, football, UFC, Basketball and all other sports in general. I’m a sports fan all the way around. As you know, boxing is my favorite.Posted April 16, 2014 11:38 pm
not convincedPosted April 16, 2014 11:18 pm
Hecdog – are u into other sports?Posted April 16, 2014 10:50 pm
Manny will never be number 1 until he beats Floyd which will never happen, Bradley while skilled is no where near Floyd. Manny will get his ass handed to him…Posted April 16, 2014 10:46 pm
Waste of time. Manny Pacquiao is number 1 without question.Posted April 16, 2014 10:41 pm
“rankings mean nothing because they are based on fantasy.”-LOL. What an idiot. Please learn more about Boxing. P4P isn’t based on fantasy. Its based on SKILLS. PEA brain.Posted April 16, 2014 10:35 pm
Black rooster – Floyd just beat a beast! A guy bigger than him! I’m going to pluck your feathers pal!Posted April 16, 2014 10:29 pm
Loosen up guys! P4P is for us boxing nuts that love discussing boxing. Barbershop boxing talk. Come on guys!!……….RIGO RIGO RIGO!Posted April 16, 2014 10:27 pm
Another Fake made up term…P4P, meaningless and insignificant. This is taking boring to a new low levelPosted April 16, 2014 9:41 pm
1. Mayweather 2. Ward. 3. Rigo 4. Kovalev. 5. Lara 6. Marquez 7. Pacquiao 8. M. Garcia 9. W. Klitschko 10. CaneloPosted April 16, 2014 9:15 pm
wladimar should be no lower than 6th.Posted April 16, 2014 9:14 pm