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JOE CALZAGHE A WELSH LEGEND 11.4O AM 1O/13/2012

Posted October 13, 2012 11:36 am 


TARK

Right! … He’s not even going to risk the fight.

Posted October 12, 2012 7:59 pm 


Red Ryan

Kelly will eat this guy alive………..

Posted October 12, 2012 5:42 pm 


Robert D

Whiteman: Pavlik was never comfortable in the spotlight an don’t forget he’s a Youngstown guy. Nobody loves there Boilermakers more than the rowdies in Youngstown, O.

Posted October 12, 2012 3:11 pm 


Scott Dennett

Congratulations Edwin on Stephanie’s pregnancy.

You’re coming into your prime, in many ways. Good luck booking your next fight. You know…I will be there.

Posted October 12, 2012 2:38 pm 


TARK

Pavlik is going to wait on Abraham or Froch…but it may not happen. It’s funny. Rodriguez would fight Pavlik in a heartbeat, but Froch and Abraham are probably thinking, “Why do I need to fight this tall, long armed bomber??? Who’s he beaten at Super Middle? Screw him, I’m taking other fights.”

Posted October 12, 2012 11:21 am 


TARK

Mayweather didn’t select his opponents that carefully… He moved up 5 weight divisions and basically fought whoever was there—who inspired the most public interest… No reason for him to fight Cheato who had a minor ww title and wasn’t the lineal champ.. No reason for him to fight Tszyu who was out for 2 years with injuries before he fought Mitchell and Hatton.. No reason for him to fight Pacquiao when he’s making 87 million dollars in his last 2 fights, basically off the hype their eventual meeting is generating — or until all hiis terms are met down to the last T crossing.. They will fight in 2013 and the rivalry has been a financial bonanza for both of them.. On the other hand Calzaghe pretty much ducked Glen Johnson and Carl Froch in favor of guys like Peter Manfredo. It’s not as if he hadn’t fought somebody with fewer fights than Froch had at that time, for a lot less money …. People forget that Floyd openly challenged Mosley and DLH when Floyd was Lightweight Champion. He was willing to jump up 3 weight divisions to get at them.

Posted October 12, 2012 12:35 am 


Joseph Herron

Hey there, DT…how are you, brother?

I actually miss Joe Calzaghe…Joey ZaZa was so much fun to watch. Never in a dull fight unless he’s pitted against B-Hop.

I would love to see Andre Ward versus Joe Calzaghe right about now…great match-up, but the potential of being a snoozer like the Hopkins fight.

Posted October 12, 2012 12:19 am 


Joseph Herron

I didn’t mean similar in fight styles, Tark.

Joey ZaZa was a gutsy, entertaining brawler who had the athletic ability and ring intelligence to adapt to any fighter’s style.

Floyd is a completely different animal stylistically.

Both fighters share the same mentality in carefully choosing their opposition though.

That’s where the similarities begin and end.

That was my point.

Posted October 11, 2012 7:37 pm 


TARK

Calzaghe was a brawler… He was really the complete opposite of Floyd Mayweather. Even short guys like Lacy, he would jump in and out, but he didn’t box short guys. He went toe-to-toe and threw flurries of hooks and uppercuts dipping and dodging return fire on the inside.. When JC got nailed hard or floored, he was usually ducking into a hook or an uppercut. He stuck his head right in there. His dad had no background in boxing and Calzaghe more or less taught himself how to fight. His hands were wrapped very poorly for most of his career, hence he suffered broken mitts a lot.

Posted October 11, 2012 7:32 pm 


Joseph Herron

Tark, that totally makes a lot of sense.

For years, he was considered to be the white, European version of Floyd Mayweather Jr.

A fighter who had the skills to arguably beat the best of his era, but was afraid to take the fights that everyone wanted to see for fear of losing his perfect record.

Right on the money!!

Posted October 11, 2012 6:24 pm 


Joseph Herron

Whiteman in denial, while your hero Floyd was temporarily in retirement (to purposely avoid both Cotto and Margarito), Pavlik did indeed become the most popular American fighter after he knocked out Taylor…even if it was for a relatively short period of time.

Brother, sounds like you’re in denial and don’t want to give a white fighter some props.

Posted October 11, 2012 5:32 pm 


hecdog

Edwin is opening his mouth too much. Show some respect to a fighter that beat some pretty tough guys. Pavlik may not be the same fighter he once was, but he has plenty left to beat a lower level fighter like Rodriguez. I wasn’t impressed with him one bit. He telegraphs his punches, and his HBO fight was embarrassing. I would never pay to see that guy fight. Sure he has power, but he has absolutely nothing special to even be showcased on HBO. I hope he does fight Pavlik, because Pavlik will kick his ass, and by knockout. HBO, please don’t show this guy as a headliner again until he gets much, much better, which from what I saw, won’t ever happen.

Posted October 11, 2012 4:04 pm 


Joseph Herron

Honestly, Tark, I can see the logic in both fighters’ arguments.

Kelly was at one time the most popular American fighter in the sport, and he should be considered in the biggest fights in any division he decides to compete in.

But boxing is a brutal sport…not just in the ring.

His actions out of the ring and his serious consideration towards retirement last year really left a bad taste in the mouth of most fight fans and industry leaders.

According to a lot of people in boxing, Kelly has a lot of making up to do. And if that means he has to work his way back up the division pecking order, well then that’s what he has to do.

I think one fight with Rodriguez does that.

Take the fight, Kelly…prove your mettle to the fickle fans of boxing!!

Posted October 11, 2012 3:15 pm 


TARK

As I said many times previously Pavlik will not fight Rodriguez.. Pavlik is looking for an unearned title shot against Froch or Abraham – after all, the fellow Abraham is fighting next sucks doorknobs. I suggest Rodriguez try to get a fight with Andre Dirrell – there’s no real boxing fan who wouldn’t want to watch that fight. If Dirrell declines, try his brother. Just keep your head down and beat the guys they can get for you as one-sidedly as possible, and your shot will come eventually.

Posted October 11, 2012 2:18 pm 


Joseph Herron

Guys, I abolsutely love this fight!! Pavlik and Rodriguez would be spectacular and provide more clarity in the talented 168 pound division. With Stevenson fighting George tomorrow, the Super Middleiweight division needs this fight to create a huge showdown between Carl Froch, Andre Ward, or Arthur Abraham and the winner of the two aforementioned bouts.

For people who are discounting Edwin’s experience and ability, his athelticism alone will give most of the top fighters in the division big problems in the ring.

He has speed and power…with those two attributes, you have to take him seriously as a legitimate contender.

Posted October 11, 2012 1:26 pm 


joe 712

Edwin is full of him self. Kelly fell off some but pavlik wll beat his ass.

Posted October 11, 2012 1:09 pm 


The Kingslayer

This is a great fight for HBO B.A.D

Posted October 11, 2012 1:04 pm 


Pro

Pavlik vs Edwin would be a good fight but i think Pavlik scared. If Pavlik have any balls left he’ll fight the lil unknow guy like Edwin. Pavlik don’t be scared, take the fight.

Posted October 11, 2012 1:00 pm 


Cheese Cake

@ Rapid -Even Floyd Mayweather is wide open when he is throwing a punch (especially on a photo where the opening last forever…). Pavlik isn’t even fighting so he is in no position to call anyone “horrible”. Truth is, considering the risk, there is not enough money involved for Pavlik.

Posted October 11, 2012 12:22 pm 


Rapid

Edwin…Pavlik would beat you like a drum!! Your too wide open, I mean look at your stance in this articles pic??? pavliks short, strait shots will wreck you!!

Posted October 11, 2012 12:10 pm 



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