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ArguingWithIdiots

Agreed.

Posted August 9, 2012 11:57 pm 


ArguingWithIdiots

Disagreed… Dehydrated 4″ + 10 pound advantages only mean the smaller guy is facing a weakened bigger fighter. Reflexes, strength, speed, durability, and agility are all adversely affected by dehydration. Catch weights for money, provide nothing more than illusions for the smaller fighters.

Posted August 9, 2012 11:56 pm 


Moonshineman

Arum needs to retire. Why in the world would Pacquiao fight Cotto again. It’s clear Cotto is fighting for the money. Pacquiao beat Cotto to a bloody pulp last time. The only new strategy for Cotto, would be to learn how to run faster.

Posted August 9, 2012 12:14 pm 


Hen-Dog

Hecdog, first of all Money fought Cotto at his comfort zone of 154 pound; this is something Pacman will never, ever do in his lifetime… Pacman beat a drained (handicap) Cotto at a catch weight of 144 pounds. Pacman also fought a handicap De LaHoy and Mosley. Mayweather beat his opponent at their comfort zone, no handicap, and this is why he’s proven that he’s the best boxer that ever has been in the world.

Posted August 9, 2012 10:02 am 


Hen-Dog

Cotto had to drained himself to 144 pounds to fight Manny and for that reason he one the fight. Manny fought a handicap… Cotto wants the fight but at 150 pounds.

Posted August 9, 2012 9:56 am 


Hen-Dog

Totally disagreed. Money fought DeLahoya, Cotto and Mosley at their comfort weight class. Pac Man fought the same three fighters drained at a catch weight. Look it up and you’ll see that your little assasin is taking out handicap boxer.

Posted August 9, 2012 9:52 am 


Anonymous

That is 100% true.

Posted August 9, 2012 9:50 am 


Hidalgo

I feel a migrain coming on. :roll:

Posted August 9, 2012 9:44 am 


MP

Be a good fight for cotto, why not give him another shot whilst his confidence is high….. As for Mayfiddy, he don’t want the pacman fight yet either, May aint stupid & knows he can make another 100m fighting two or three bums then take on pacman. In essence, if May wanted the Pacman fight to happen it would have happened by now so it’s both camps that don’t want it yet, he knows it will be his risk fight – the first fight where May will have to take it too. Anyway it needs to happen in 2013 or who cares.

Posted August 8, 2012 5:54 pm 


matthews

The only fight Pac should be going for is Bradley. He fought JMM about 15 times now, Cotto he already destroyed. Pac is got to be retarded or something. Bradley then May , if not those two then just retire. Nobody wants to see these recycled fights. JMM in Mexico :roll: , did he fight Pac in the Phillipines.

Posted August 8, 2012 4:22 pm 


angelrod75

spoken like a true pactard

Posted August 8, 2012 10:33 am 


Pete SmoothFlow

Too true. Always his demands, does it all the time. Knows how to ‘drain’ fighters to win. Floyd don’t need no catchweight lol. Anyway, Arum’s not stupid, he’ll let Floyd destroy Manny next year, just as soon as he’s milked Pacqiuao dry with the likes of Bradley, Cotto etc.

Posted August 8, 2012 7:10 am 


Kid Blast

Agreed

Posted August 8, 2012 6:58 am 


The Real Deal

There’s nothing wrong with catch weight, folks. ALL Warriors, including the Great Manny Pacquioa, are willing to fight those BIG guys if they can weigh the same the night before the showdown. Pacquioa is small, but he is willing to fight anybody that weighs equally as he does. Pacquioa is only 5’6″, but He could torture and brutally beat those big guys 5’11” like Oscar De Hoya and Margarito up and out. He is the true little assassin. Bring on the Klitschko’s brothers to Pacquioa’s weight if you want a real fight. Cotto? History will just repeat itself. Mayweather? Well, we all know that Mayweather is scared and doesn’t want to fight Pacquioa. What’s next for Pacquiao? He should avenge and take his stolen title back from Bradley.

Posted August 8, 2012 1:13 am 


Ike

This fight will not take place because: (A) Arum would probably try to get Cotto to re-sign with Top Rank in order to score the rematch. (B) Cotto and his team won’t agree to any sort of catch weight. And (C) In light of the PED allegations against Pacquiao, Cotto would surely want random drug testing. Just one of these issues is enough to prevent this rematch from happening. Besides, with Manny nearing the end of his career, Arum wants all Top Rank fight so he can cash Pacman out. Pacquiao will fight Marquez or Bradley next.

Posted August 7, 2012 10:16 pm 


Ghetto Thug

Exactly

Posted August 7, 2012 10:14 pm 


bobdigi

unsurprising!! cotto brings the 3rd most money so pac and floyd will happily keep beating him up till the cows come home while cotto will happily take the beating for the money!! Waste of time fights obvious outcome…

boxing all about money going down the drain!! pac lost last 2 fights but wont fix neither

Posted August 7, 2012 8:56 pm 


Kid Blast

because that allows him to retain superstar status!! Duh! :idea:

Posted August 7, 2012 8:37 pm 


Kid

who would want to see this SHT!!!!!????? boxing is deadddddd… dont even want to see the 24/7 shows if this takes place.. pac singing to jesus and cotto sleeping with his little gordita.. STUPIDDDDDD

Posted August 7, 2012 8:18 pm 


Kid

Really?? why???? i hate bob

Posted August 7, 2012 8:14 pm 


pugfan

i could still deny it.Paquiao looks better against everyone Floyd fights except marquez. Paquiao destroys the guys that go the distance with Mayweather.

Posted August 7, 2012 7:35 pm 


Kid Blast

Tumbo, your Pinoy hate grows thin. :evil: :twisted:

Posted August 7, 2012 6:36 pm 


Shane

He hit Manny and he didn’t budge. Manny hit him back and Cotto hit the deck then folded like a tent. No thanks on a rematch. :???:

Posted August 7, 2012 4:39 pm 


Cary

No catchweight bullspit, Miguel! Knock Manny’s ass out! If you can hit Floyd, you can hit Manny!

Posted August 7, 2012 4:26 pm 


Titopa

Regardless. The bottom line is you’re blasting Cotto for fighting a “welterweight” in Floyd but forgot that a dried out middleweight in Canelo is fighting a blown up Jr. Welter. Not even close to “good” if you ask me. Cotto is established, Canelo is not, Cotto can call the shots, Canelo cannot.

Posted August 7, 2012 1:53 pm 


BigMikeTampa

Wont buy another fight from Pac or PBF until its v each other. Both are out of interesting possibilities for the most part. Hopefully they both have one more fight then v each other which will ultimately be their retirement pensions. Too bad its been dragged on this long, neither in absolute prime anymore. Still a hell of a fight though…

Posted August 7, 2012 1:44 pm 


te tumbo

there isn’t a single reason why Floyd would not want the Pacquiao* bout. by this time, who can still deny that Mayweather would cruelly and decisively manhandle and dismantle Pacquiao* with merciless impunity? he would only improve on Marquez’s performance with his bigger size, strength, speed, and P4P versatility. in fact, it’s the primary reason that Team Punkuiao* is once again trying to bait a compromised Cotto into a rematch that Pacquiao* will certainly win. No Dice. if Punkuiao* can’t finally bring himself to challenge and face legitimate and prime opponents on a level playing field, he should do fight-fans and the sport a favor and RETIRE. IMO, he’s been a cynical fraud for at least the past three years and isn’t even trying to hide it by re-challenging a vulnerable Cotto who hasn’t defeated a prime opponent himself since he was a welter.

Posted August 7, 2012 1:32 pm 


forreal

Nope…not happening!!,no more catchweights!!;either PEDman makes the regulatory weight or take a hike…everyone is well aware of this trick already;why not rematch Bradley instead?

Posted August 7, 2012 1:05 pm 


Rich

This is really pathetic,….is there is no one else out there…..

Posted August 7, 2012 12:24 pm 


Papo

I still feel Cotto entered the ring at a big disvanatage in his fight against Pac. First, the catch-weight was a big mistake. Even today, I find it difficult to believe Cotto felt into that trap. He was the champion; if Pac wanted the belt the fight should had taken place at 147.

Secondly, and perhaps the biggest disadvantage, was the trainer chosen by Cotto. Why chose a trainer with no experience…for any fight, but especially for a championship fight. That “so called” trainer didn’t know anything about boxing, (other than being a fan and a friend of Cotto) let alone training a fighter for a championship bout.

Roach, being an experience trainer, took advantage of those mistakes…of course I’d have done the same. However, “fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice shame on me”. If Cotto falls into that trap again, he deserves to have his ass wiped.

Posted August 7, 2012 12:13 pm 


Kato3388

That’s absolutely right… the 1st one was VERY conclusive. No need for a repeat, cause I’m not buying. And I doubt the undercard will be any better… so bring on Tiny Tim one more time. That one is unfinished business right there. I don’t like this new Manny….

Posted August 7, 2012 11:48 am 


RNS

Hmm I wonder if Cotto can still make 147? :grin: because Roach and co will want Cotto nowhere near 154. if Pacquiao had a set of balls then it will be 154, we will see.

Posted August 7, 2012 10:53 am 


RUFFKNIGHT

The true fight fans won’t buy it but the ignorant general public will think they’re cool if they do.

Posted August 7, 2012 10:35 am 


NasaDeen

Boxing/fight fans: DON’T FALL FOR THIS CRAP! DON’T SUPPORT THIS CRAP! DON’T TALK ABOUT IT! DON’T EVEN THINK ABOUT IT! Unless you are cool with being taken advantage of and being thought of as a “SUCKER!” It’s time to send a message, ya’ll: No more of Arum’ putrid ploys and shenanigans! BOYCOTT! BOYCOTT! BOYCOTT! BOYCOTT! Nuff Said.

Posted August 7, 2012 9:48 am 


pugfan

as a matter of fact i would like to have seen a Paquiao vs. Cotto fight before Cotto was destroyed by Margarito.i think Manny would have still won but it would have been a totally different fight IMO.

Posted August 7, 2012 9:25 am 


pugfan

Paquiao would show more balls by fighting Marquez a 4th time or giving Bradley a rematch. Cotto has been damaged goods since his first fight with Margarito,and besides that Paquiao destroyed Cotto the first time around.

Posted August 7, 2012 9:23 am 


fast eddie

I like how you left out Barrera, Morales, and Marquez. Manny’s been great for a long time.

Posted August 7, 2012 8:56 am 


Anonymous

Who u think is the best at 154?? Cotto never duck no one!!!! U sound like a chavez fan,,,he wants to fight cotto at 160,,,but he’ll come into the fight at 180..at the end of the day,,,there are too many boxers out there that are scared of cotto!!! He’s a warrior with heart!!!

Posted August 7, 2012 6:32 am 


Jheri Curl

I am NOT LIKELY to buy this crap. :mad:

Posted August 7, 2012 2:23 am 


ZukS

Well Arum is vomitting once again, no suprises there!

Posted August 7, 2012 2:19 am 


Layla Ali

That fight makes the least sense, ONLY because thats a fight fans DONT want to see. :???:

Posted August 7, 2012 1:51 am 


2bad

Why a rematch, didn’t Pedquiao Demolished an already CRIPPLE Cotto in 11 rounds and WHY did Floyd fought a CRIPPLE Cotto if he doesn’t get along with Arum and instead fought Cotto when he was a Tough undefeated welterweight Arum was the EXCUSE then why not now too.

Posted August 7, 2012 1:21 am 


Anonymous

You are a Pacquiao fanboy and never watched boxing before Pac came along. That being said, Pacquiao lost to Marquez, while Mayweather had a competitive fight with Cotto. And to be fair, Mayweather didn’t have to weight drain Cotto.

Posted August 7, 2012 1:03 am 


The Mad Scientist

So this is what boxing has become lately amongst the few stars in our sport..good thing for me that my interest in other fights and fighters go way beyond whatever these media darlings decide to do..

Posted August 7, 2012 12:49 am 


M. Mendoza

I don’t like this fight for Cotto — although the way this article is written — a safe bet would be that it’s all speculation. It would also seem that Cotto will do better against Pacquiao because he has improved a lot on his defense while training with Steward and now with Diaz. The last time, Cotto won three rounds and fought on until the 11th round. This time, my bet would be that it would go the 12 rounds with a decision in favor of Pacquiao. No one can question Cotto’s warrior spirit, so he will fight until the end. No matter what, I would save the PPV money and watch the replay on HBO.

Posted August 7, 2012 12:31 am 


HHLondon

Arum flying out to Pacquiao in the Philippines speaks volumes in itself!!!!!

Proper desperate measures by the Incarnate himself and sounds like he’s losing his grip on the Gravy!

Posted August 7, 2012 12:11 am 


te tumbo

don’t see the connection(?). Canelo hasn’t reached his prime and Cotto is presumably an active “legend”. besides, Cotto declining Canelo’s invitation followed by Williams, Kirkland, and Ortiz falling through is what resulted in Lopez NOT careful “picking and choosing” of safe opponents. Btw, there is no stage of a fighter’s career where he is entitled to $queezing fight-fan’s for their hard-earned money to watch him v. carefully-selected competition. if Cotto can no longer compete, then he should retire or be tossed to the young lions.

Posted August 6, 2012 11:53 pm 


ArguingWithIdiots

This guy Arum is so predictable. Every time Mayweather hits the press, this maggot starts with this type of crap. I hope Cotto’s gives him the middle finger. Cotto can do fine without Arum.

Posted August 6, 2012 11:42 pm 


ArguingWithIdiots

Don’t let the door hit you in the ass on your way out.

Posted August 6, 2012 10:51 pm 


Realtalk

No need for this fight! Are you kidding me!

Posted August 6, 2012 9:53 pm 


Anonymous

More catch weight bull@h!t. If Cotto agrees to come down in weight, he might as well go ahead and sign another contract to be a slave on Master Arum’s Plantation once again. Some guys NEVER learn.

Posted August 6, 2012 9:51 pm 


HHLondon

Gotta feel a bit sorry for the Pacquiao fanboys!

They’ll buy anything Arum sells them!

Posted August 6, 2012 9:42 pm 


jesse

How does Cotto deserve the fight against pacquiao more than Marquez? Juan Manuel has been robbed time and time again. he should have the pacquiao fight and have it in Mexico!

Posted August 6, 2012 9:14 pm 


Fight Aficionado

I don’t give a GD about any Pac or Floyd fights unless they fight each other. We bought the last Pac card only because we liked the undercard. Won’t be doing that again. Someone needs to kidnap Floyd and Pac and release them only when they enter the ring to fight each other.

Posted August 6, 2012 9:03 pm 


fate1

cotto takes this fight if the catch weight is 152lbs. he wont fall for that trick again of dehydrating himself and draining his strength. if the weight cant be decided i see cotto doing his fight in msg sometime in december. i feel pacquiao should fight bradley again but who wants to pay for that. pacquiao should and needs to fight marquez and win convincingly. thats the fight that makes the most sense.

Posted August 6, 2012 8:52 pm 


Anonymous

good fight if it’s at or above 150

Posted August 6, 2012 8:52 pm 


FrankinDallas

PPV? For this re-run? Not getting my $$$.

Posted August 6, 2012 8:50 pm 


UJelly?

I’d rather see Cotto vs Canelo if Cotto fights again at 154. If he moves to 160, the obvious choice is the winner of Martinez-Chavez… though a Cotto-Golovkin fight would be damn awesome (though it would of course never happen… it makes absolutely no business sense, and as entertaining as it’d be whilst it lasted, I couldn’t see Cotto lasting the distance).

Posted August 6, 2012 8:47 pm 


mex

Cotto is no match for
Pac at 160 so whats the big deal????

Posted August 6, 2012 8:38 pm 


world

who the hell wants to see this fight?

Posted August 6, 2012 8:36 pm 


Patrick2

Please, no redos! I like Cotto, but we’ve seen this fight already. Let’s make it intriguing. Try out some new blood. How ’bout Kell Brook, Josesito Lopez or at 140 lbs Danny Garcia or Lucus Matthysee? If you want a deserving redo — fight Bradley again — he has Pac’s belt.

Posted August 6, 2012 8:36 pm 


Bo

pacioui and Arum both suk. Cotto should not fight at a weight lower than 154, Pac don’t like that, fack em..

Posted August 6, 2012 8:32 pm 


Realtalk

Manny is a scared dude

Posted August 6, 2012 8:30 pm 


Traveling Wilburys greatest hits

Why face torta lips martinez at 150 when he can make 147 easy, remember pinchulo have said that he’s a smaaaaaaaaaaaaall middleweight. But i guess it wont be necessary cos Chavez jr will put him on wheelchair as vegetable man.

Posted August 6, 2012 8:29 pm 


Teeth

Americans are killing boxing…. it’s the truth. If they can’t have it, the utter, utter kents are making sure no one else will. Oscar, Arum, King and the long, long line of scum that they come from are slowly calcifying this once great sport. Europe is the only hope.

Posted August 6, 2012 8:24 pm 


Boxtradamus

If Pacquiao takes the Fight he’s a devout COWARD because he SAID that he’d only face Martinez at 147. Martinez SAID he would face Pacquiao at 150

Posted August 6, 2012 8:16 pm 


Tomato Can

That is Arum doesn’t seem to know why Cotto left Top Rank.

Posted August 6, 2012 8:01 pm 


bikermike

I think it was arum who said…..’Everything I say, is a lie…..believe me !’

Posted August 6, 2012 7:59 pm 


Tomato Can

Is’nt that nice of Arum? I guess he doesn’t know why Arum left him in the first place. He doesn’t want to bend over for anyone anymore. He wont agree to 150. I think.

Posted August 6, 2012 7:58 pm 


bikermike

You guys buy this one if you want to….if you do….you’ll only encourage arum…..I’ll wait for the free re run….or find out how to get that thread thing…and watch it on my desk

Posted August 6, 2012 7:50 pm 


mansworld

Manny is done every since he found Religion he has been loosing, Theory is he may have felt guilty and stopped taking the juice. Either way people are loosing interest in his fights…

Posted August 6, 2012 7:47 pm 


Titopa

Agreed! Cotto should shoot for title contention at 160 or fight for a title at 154….forget fighting a catchweight bout. Enough of that BS!

Posted August 6, 2012 7:30 pm 


red baron

According to Bob Arum… Then I stopped reading. It always is, has been, and will be a crap, whatever he talks.

Posted August 6, 2012 7:30 pm 


Titopa

Don’t forget…Canelo is fighting a Jr. Welter. That’s not very impressive either.

Posted August 6, 2012 7:26 pm 


Titopa

I somewhat agree! But they (Cotto & Pacquiao) see dollar signs….I understand that boxing is a business, and when you’ve reached their level it’s hard not to “pick and choose” your opponent carefully. But if you’re going to shoot for big bucks, at least fight someone worthy or attempt to please the fans.

Posted August 6, 2012 7:24 pm 


te tumbo

first of all, what’s the catchweight? also, if Cotto is a true 154lbr, why is it that he consistently avoids the best 154lb competition in favor of welter retreads or PPV headliners including a catchweight? Btw, E-Nuff of scapegoating Arum. Cotto and Punkuiao* are presumably grown men in charge of their own careers. at least that’s what they both insist is the case. consequently, they are At-Least as responsible as Arum for these artificial “showdowns” and “rematches” happening. Boycott is the only response of self-respecting fight-fans. no more primetime dollars for subprime and predictable matchups.

Posted August 6, 2012 7:00 pm 


Anonymous

big swing of a mickey

Posted August 6, 2012 6:54 pm 


Papo

I agree; there’s no reason why Cotto needs to agree with those demands. Pac should man-up and agree to fight Cotto at 154 or look someplace else. That’s the issue though, Pac doesn’t want anything to do with Marquez and a Bradley rematch is too risky. At the same time, he’s running out of catch-weight “willing” opponents.

Posted August 6, 2012 6:50 pm 


Boxing Fanatic

again? LOL

Posted August 6, 2012 6:44 pm 


philgood

The only bad thing about this fight is that they are going to want to put this b/s on PPV

Posted August 6, 2012 6:01 pm 


Shane

I am likely to puke. :twisted: …….there are better opponents unlike the hapless Bradley or a fking 4th fight with JMM. Why not Khan? I am sure he thinks he can beat Manny only to go baby giraffe with the 1st grazing left hand. Ugh…..pathetic. he gives him 3 fights noone wants to see the greedy old sob. :sad:

Posted August 6, 2012 5:18 pm 


Titopa

at 150lbs?? NO! Cotto shouldn’t do it…..eff that. He should go to 160 and try for a title there. There’s nothing but a paycheck fighting Pacman at 150.

Posted August 6, 2012 5:09 pm 


T-Bag

drained cotto again, sweet!

Posted August 6, 2012 5:04 pm 


Anonymous

lol Cotto like to drink his own blood

Posted August 6, 2012 5:03 pm 


The Kingslayer

There is no point in this fight at all. Bob Arum is killing boxing !!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted August 6, 2012 4:55 pm 


Mike

whoop – de – f******g – do

Posted August 6, 2012 4:53 pm 



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