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Juan Manuel Marquez is the #2 Mexican fighter of all-time, arguably the #1. Salvador Sanchez fought for a minute and didn’t win titles in multiple weight classes. Ricardo Lopez was a multi-division champion but he fought nothing but trash.

Posted December 4, 2012 5:50 pm 


sal.o

To WTF??? ..ARE you a boxing fan or just a lonely hateful guy ,,you dont talk nothing about boxing ,,its only about hatred for other races ,,,is that what your life revolves around,just hate ..besides Chavez punches were slow but does that mean he had them loaded ,,NO Chavez hands were very heavy, just like Gorge Foreman’s punches they were slow but Foreman did a lot of damage to his opponents ..Now tell me Foreman cheated….

Posted October 14, 2012 5:47 pm 


Mookie Blaylock

so ANDRADE gloves were loaded too when he almost knocked BUTE out after getting schooled for 11 rounds , same thing with the most recent chavez jr getting touched for 11 rounds before he landed a bomb… so sorry try again new york rat

Posted October 14, 2012 1:44 pm 


zurdo40

Oh wait, wait… Let talk about all the great wars of canadian fighters against the great puerto rican and phillipines warriors..,,,
hahahaha. incredible

Posted October 14, 2012 12:52 am 


zurdo40

All you are right, mexican figthers are unworthy. Let s talk about great puerto rican and phillipinies fighters and all the incredible wars among them.. Cotto against Pacquiao was one of them. another one was … Cotto against Pacquiao… The last one was Cotto against Pacquiao… oh wait.. Cotto against Pacquiao just was exciting in the initial rounds later was a massacre, so, Cotto against Pacquiao dont count. The other great fight was …. none. Its great when you let somebody like an idiot in his own language.

Posted October 14, 2012 12:48 am 


WTF???

Chavez Sr. was the original Glove loader.. just go back and watch his fight with Meldrick Taylor and you will see the mirrior image of the Cotto vs MargaCheato fight.. Slow as Molasses shots that would leave inexplicable damage?? same thudding sounds.. no doubt Chavez Sr. was using the Tijuana Cement Loaded Wraps trick MargaCheato used on Cotto and Cintron… ChaveZ Sr. also used loaded wRaps vs Camacho Sr… and god only knows who else.. Camacho Sr. said he was pissing blood after that fight.. and after the Chavez Jr. 24/7 series we know from their own Mouths that ChaveZ Sr. was a drug addict during those years… :twisted:

Posted October 13, 2012 9:45 pm 


sal.o

To Tark are you on drugs or something ??how in the hell were Julio Cesar Chavez fights fix ,, did you not see the faces of his opponents after their fights with Chavez ,,Chavez had very ,,very heavy hands,,and did a lot of damage to his opponents,,also knuckle head how in the hell do you rate Marquez as a better fighter then Chavez you say that Marquez fought better opponents,,,WELL here’s Chavez resemate ,,these were all current or former champions Lockridge,,Mayweather,,Ramirez,,LaPorte,,Bazooka Limon,,Rosario,,Sammy Fuentes,,Meldrick Taylor,,Greg Haugen,,Tony Lopes,,Giovanni Parisi,,Joey Gamache,,Miquel Angel Gonzales,,Rueben Castillo,,Lonnie Smith,,and Frankie Randell in the third fight,,,now how manny champions has Marquez beaten……

Posted October 13, 2012 8:15 pm 


M. Mendoza

BRED: I agree with your rankings — Marquez is a solid #3. He has proven over and over again that he’s all-time great (at least in my book). It doesn’t take away anything from Pacquiao by any means; it’s just that they are both great champions who have proven their champion quality against each other and against their other competion. I’m looking forward to their 4th squabble.

Posted October 13, 2012 4:00 pm 


Floyd’s Lawyer

There’s one thing common in most of the Mex fans especially like “te tumbo”, A CRYBABIES ALL THE WAY!!!

Posted October 13, 2012 3:55 pm 


Floyd’s Lawyer

“King David” Is an ABSOLUTE IMBECILE, CRYBABY and a PATHETIC BLIND!!!

Posted October 13, 2012 3:49 pm 


Mookie Blaylock

HAHAHa everybody knew that was you posint as a flip DUDE YOUR Lame, for every flilpino and puerto rican champion there was in the last 10 years multiply that by at least 3 and you will come to the conclusion mexico is number 1 in that category…. so sorry try again

Posted October 13, 2012 3:40 pm 


WTF???

Mookie – So how has tiny Puerto Rico and the phillipines kicked so much Mexican ASS???if Mexico hasn’t produced a top world class unbeaten fighter in over a decade.. They’re hassbeens.. Canadians have produced more champions then Mexico over the last 10 Years.. :lol:

Posted October 13, 2012 3:31 pm 


King david

That man school pac in all three fights(for me he won at least one if not all 3 fights)… He is the only guy in history to give pac the hard time.

Posted October 13, 2012 3:31 pm 


TARK

Chavez didn”t beat the same caliber of fighter Marquez beat and many of Chavez’s fights were fixed. Certainly the Whitaker fight and Frankie Randell rematch were flagrantly rigged.. Marquez beat ATG Barrera by a wide margin—a UD with at least a 5-point margin on each of the judges’ cards—ridiculously easy to score. If a Morales fight is made Marquez wins just as easily though he’s 4 years older. Finito Lopez never fought a great fighter and his fights vs Alvarez were rigged. He got the trash beaten out of him both times. He had a chance to fight Michael Carbojal for more money than he ever made, but turned it down. Sanchez was better than Marquez but he’s the only Mexican who was.

Posted October 13, 2012 3:11 pm 


PhilipinosOwnMexicans..

Paquiao has kicked alot of Mexican ASS just about put an end to Mexican Boxing.. ever since Paquiao came into the picture Mexican Boxiing has fallen to third world status… Not bad work for a small Phillipino fighter called Manny Paquiao!!!!

Posted October 13, 2012 2:13 pm 


Patrick2

@ Chicago Guy — What’s wrong with a guy who thinks he beat his opponent three times (and, again, any UNBIASED fan could make that case — and most think he won at least one, if not all three) and deserved at least one of the decisions? And if Pacquiao is so far above Marquez, how come they’re on their forth fight to determine a clear victor? Both of these questions led me to think that Marquez is very much on Pacquiao’s level?

Posted October 13, 2012 1:43 pm 


Dino

How you fight when it looks like things won’t go your way says alot about you. JMM is a true warrior in every sence of the word, he ducks no one and comes to win every fight. This guy has a great resume. Top 5 all time Mexican greats easy. Class act and credit to the sport.

Posted October 13, 2012 1:04 pm 


Mookie Blaylock

who did pacquaio beat to CREATE his own legacy? old morales, war torn barrera, weight drained oscar and cotto, clottey?

Posted October 13, 2012 12:59 pm 


moxierose

@ KOrnerman, YES.

Posted October 13, 2012 12:06 pm 


KOrnerman

he doesn’t need rankled,being one of the Mexican greats is good enough in anyone’s book and he is definitely one of those.

Posted October 13, 2012 10:42 am 


Chicago guy

JMM didn’t creates his own legacy in boxing by his own way.He just chased Pacquiao or he didn’t make his own history in the sport of boxing. He is rank as good boxer but not in the level of JCCSr. who created his own legacy. JMM just used Pacquiao name to liftup his status in the sport.

Posted October 13, 2012 10:34 am 


ZKO

Since Marquez beat Pac in last fight (the official decision doesn’t matter), he is above Barerra and Morales. The only question is regarding Chavez Sr… is he better than Chavez Sr?

Posted October 13, 2012 10:05 am 


WTF???

Didn’t Arce quit and pull a no mas vs the Puerto Rican fighter in his last fight?? everyone there was boooing him.. never saw him pull an Oscar NoMas move before..

Posted October 13, 2012 9:40 am 


WTF???

Danny Garcia put top Dog Morales on his Ass and had him on noodle legs does that make young Danny Garcia a top dog??? :lol:

Posted October 13, 2012 9:38 am 


TJ

IMHO SALVADOR SANCHEZ had everything… A man who would be even fresher in the 15th than he was in the 1st, able to box, move, fight, hustle, throw combinations or wait patiently for an opening….

DINAMITA has many of these skills also. So, he must rate highly on the All-Time Top 10 of Mexican boxing…..

My list of Top Five AllTime Favourite boxers reads:

THOMAS HITMAN HEARNS, SALVADOR SANCHEZ, LARRY HOLMES, WILFREDO GOMEZ, RICARDO FINITO LOPEZ…

Right now of boxers today I would rank Dinamita in my top 3 to watch and for skillsets alongside Floyd Mayweather and Andre Ward….

Posted October 13, 2012 9:18 am 


RAY GORDON REID

TOP 3 RUBEN OILVARES MORALES BARRERA 9.20 AM 1O/13/2O12

Posted October 13, 2012 9:17 am 


Red Ryan

And Jr Jones………

Posted October 13, 2012 8:38 am 


Red Ryan

Morales and Marquez are the top dogs!!

Posted October 13, 2012 8:37 am 


Chicago guy

Pacquiao liftup JMM name in the sport of boxing because JMM keep on crying by chasing Pacquiao to fight him. JMM motto: I was robbed,

Posted October 13, 2012 7:52 am 


Chicago guy

JMM is one of Mexico’s good boxer but not great. He is the crybaby Mexican boxer.

Posted October 13, 2012 7:45 am 


Happyboy

1. Chavez, 2. Sanchez, 3. El Finito, 4. JMM, 5. Morales, 6. Barrera, 7. Saldivar, 8. Olivares, 9. chiquita, 10. Arce?

Posted October 13, 2012 7:03 am 


Patrick2

Here’s the thing, if consider Pacquiao to be “one of the greatest ever,” then the man who MORE than held his own against one of the greatest ever (any unbiased fan could make a case he beat Pacquiao three times, so far), has to rate pretty damn high up in the rankings, right?

Posted October 13, 2012 6:53 am 


It’s Me, Ernie

Top 15 of all time. There have been some greats from Mexico.

Posted October 13, 2012 12:13 am 


sal.o

To WTF ,correction Mexico does not care about the fighters you mention ,,first learn your history !! and geography the fighters you mention like Victor Ortiz ,, Brandon Rios ,,Chris Arreola,, and some what Luevano were not born in Mexico,,Mexican fans from Mexico dont really care about them…the Mexican ,American fans do ..Chavez Jr.,,Angulo,,Karass they do have a following in Mexico..

Posted October 12, 2012 11:52 pm 


Anthony

“Becuase Marquez did not want any!!

Ok, Marquez is about to tangle with one of the top 3 P4P for a 4th time, but he don’t want any. Get therapy dude! Guy is a warrior.

Posted October 12, 2012 11:30 pm 


hookoffthejab

LMAO…..(drinking his own Urine to keep those expensive Roids in his system) his a modern era legend any era but definitely top 5 of the last 30 years..

Posted October 12, 2012 9:27 pm 


mex

And after reading a article like these it sure feels good tobe a Mexican!!! ….WTF come out like Vazquez Jr and wave our Mexican flag.

Posted October 12, 2012 9:19 pm 


mex

Marquez is in top 5 easily.

Posted October 12, 2012 9:16 pm 


HHLondon

He is a Mexican legend and a credit to the sport!

They don’t make them like JMM anymore!

Arum, the orgs and modern boxing have robbed the game of legends like JMM!

Posted October 12, 2012 8:56 pm 


finster

He ranks behind Morales and Barrera for sure as he did NOT beat Barrera when they fought!!! Sure he got the nod, but it was golden Boy pulling strings as Barrera was on his way out….Ask yourself this? Why did Marquez not fight Barrera or Morales as they were all in the same era and Morales has challenged Marquez for nearly ten years now! Becuase Marquez did not want any!! Besides CHAVEZ is clearly ahead of all three and only behind Sanchez!

Posted October 12, 2012 8:26 pm 


WTF???

Mexicos claim to fame in Boxing has become living off of the Carcas of Mexicans from over a decade ago.. hasn’t produced a top reigning Champion in over a decade.. all have flopped like Cry baby Oritiz, Luevano, Man boobs Arreola, Chavez Cheato Jr., dumb dumb Rios, Angulo, Sotto KarAss… sad but true… :lol:

Posted October 12, 2012 7:32 pm 


WTF???

Cannn-Ta y no Llores??? ROFLMAO isn’t that the Mexican Cantina National Anthem??? Sung by the Millions of Illegals thrown out of my USA :twisted:

Posted October 12, 2012 7:26 pm 


TARK

Number 2 behind Salvador Sanchez.. Because he won titles in four weight classes and will fight to age 40 with tremendous success.. Sanchez has to be number one because his boxing and punching skills were so fabulous and he achieved so much by age 23.

Posted October 12, 2012 7:25 pm 


te tumbo

“Cannn-Ta y no Llores” . . . :twisted:

Posted October 12, 2012 5:34 pm 


WTF???

Is this the same Marquez that was punked by Mayweather or the one who was drinking his own Urine to keep those expensive Roids in his system???

Posted October 12, 2012 5:12 pm 


REM

Ive only had the honor of watching the great Chavez the great Bererra and the great Marquez and ive always felt Berrera was the most skilled Mexican boxer ive ever seen but the lasting impression Marquez has left on me with his performances against Pac make it hard to put anybody above him.

Posted October 12, 2012 5:04 pm 


te tumbo

unofficially, Marquez never “lost” to Chris John who obviously got the hometown nod. moreover, what has Chris John done to build on that “win”? NOTHING. without a hometown crowd and hometown judges, Chris John knows he’s not on Marquez’s level and so do all true and knowledgeable fight-fans.

Posted October 12, 2012 4:57 pm 


TheFacts

Top 5 he fought everybody & would’ve beaten anybody who ducked him.Sanchez,Chavez,JMM he deserves the nod over Morales,Barrera for doing it longer against good competition.Finito,olivares,morales,barrera is up there too though.The 4th fight vs pac will only solidify his legacy regardless of what the corrupt judges say.Morales beat pac once,Marquez last two & to some all 3 that’s got to stand for something.

Posted October 12, 2012 4:57 pm 


te tumbo

based on “official” stats: 1. Sanchez 2. Chavez 3. Marquez 4. Lopez 5. Saldivar. i’ve watched the signature bouts and more of all these Fighters. for sheer mastery v. quality comp, Sanchez must get the nod. he simply DOMinated presumably formidable competition with an almost-perfect blend of talent, skills, discipline, and determination. not to mention poise. the guy was never rattled(?!) and the only opponent that came close was a young and unknown Azumah Nelson who wasn’t supposed to pose such a formidable challenge before he earned the nickname of “Professor”. otherwise, Chava had already accomplished near-perfection at the age of 22 and we can safely assume that ring-perfection was imminent in his future. for sheer ferocity and volume of quality wins, Chavez gets the nod. he challenged and faced EVERYbody, which made for a very active prime that left no doubt who the very top-dog was between 135lbs and 140lbs. we’re all familiar with Marquez’s ring-profile: steady and focused ferocity equipped with the entire arsenal of boxing punches. there isn’t a punch that Marquez can’t deliver with masterful execution. the prime “Finito” is another technical and lethal ring-master who dominated a relatively “weak” weight-class for a very long time with no defeats. my Pops inSisted that Saldivar could defeat Sanchez. i’ve watched several of his bouts, which confirms his HOF and ATG status but nothing that would compel me to favor him over the likes of Sanchez who must be acknowledged as the greatest Mexican boxer of all time. considering the balance of Mexican fighters to still choose from, PR doesn’t even crack the top-10, i.e., what “rivalry” . . . :twisted:

Posted October 12, 2012 4:54 pm 


zap371

#1 salvador sanchez

#2 Juan Manuel Marquez

#3 Cesar Chavez

Posted October 12, 2012 4:53 pm 


PRdancer

Good article, 1. Chavez 2. Sanchez. 3. Finito 4 Olivares 5 JMM 6 Morales 7 Barrera, the rest up for grabs. peace

Posted October 12, 2012 4:44 pm 


Shane

Losing to Chris John is gonna hurt. Although he is a Damn good fighter most don’t know and think he lost to a powerless nobody.

Posted October 12, 2012 4:43 pm 


The Mad Scientist

Mookie you’re right..and one of those HOF’ers on Sanchez resume happens to be one of Hype Busters idols..

Posted October 12, 2012 4:25 pm 


Mookie Blaylock

at 23 sanchez had defeated 3 hall of famers in thier primes

Posted October 12, 2012 3:51 pm 


hype buster

Number 1. Chavez used bricks. Sanchez did not have enough time to establish a legacy.

Posted October 12, 2012 3:27 pm 


B Red

I have him number 3 . 1, Sanchez. 2 Chavez

Posted October 12, 2012 3:13 pm 


Titopa

Mookie Blaylock – Agreed!

Posted October 12, 2012 2:57 pm 


Mookie Blaylock

top 5 under chavez, sanchez, lopez, olivares

Posted October 12, 2012 2:53 pm 


Titopa

The Best! – Thanks! I think he’s one of the greatest to do it, he’s the epitome of a boxer/puncher/warrior. I think he has another year left, after the Pacman fight (win or lose) he should aim for a title at 140, I think he can do it. I’d love to see him do it.

Posted October 12, 2012 2:53 pm 


The Best!

Titopa you are on the mark he never ducked anyone and was robbed several times. He was the one who was ducked by Morales and barrera while they were in their prime. he is a bad man and should hang them up after the pac fight because he clearly is not the sma e fighter .

Posted October 12, 2012 2:50 pm 


The Mad Scientist

Skill wise his the best, overall idk since Morales, Barrera and Hamed never fought him in their prime..I would’ve favor Marquez over any of those guys but to bad will never know for sure..either way his a HOF’er and an all time great regardless.

Posted October 12, 2012 2:50 pm 


hecdog

He’s a very good boxer, but IMO there have been others that have been better. Marco Antonio Barrera, Ricardo (Finito Unbeaten) Lopez, Carlos Zarate, Julio Cesar Chavez, Ruben (El Puas) Olivares, Salvador Sanchez, Raton Macias to name a few.

Posted October 12, 2012 2:49 pm 


Titopa

Very high! The man has NEVER ducked or dodged anyone, he has worked his way up by fighting the VERY best boxing had/has to offer, he was never pampered or protected…you don’t find that anymore in boxing, now you have guys (Canelo for ex.) who pick and choose EVERY opponent, they want the easiest fight that’ll generate the most money…now they’re handed titles for bargaining purposes and they’re sold the fans as “champions”. Marquez is cut from a different cloth. He’s one of my ALL TIME favorites, EVER!

Posted October 12, 2012 2:47 pm 



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