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Joseph Herron

KOrnerman, on my radio show, fighters always insist that they leave the decision making up to their managers and promoters when they shouldn’t. Because ultimately, they’re the ones who get the blame.

Brandon Rios didn’t want to fight any longer at 135 pounds but was talked into it by his manager Cameron Dunkin. He felt it was important for Brandon to have a title when moving into a new weight class for more clout when negotiating with an elite level Junior Welterweight opponent.

They were trying to justify fighting either Manny Pacquiao or JMM. Obviously it didn’t work out that way.

These fighters have the power to decline or accept any offer but they usually choose to leave those important decisions in the hands of their handlers.

I’m sure Brandon regrets his acceptance of the Abril fight but he owes most of his successes to Dunkin and Top Rank.

So it’s very hard to say no to his handlers, in his mind.

Posted October 13, 2012 5:47 pm 


Joseph Herron

Lol, Te Tumbo…always the classy response.

My retort was to enlighten you as to what lengths these fighters will torture themselves for our entertainment, so that maybe you’ll treat this very serious issue with more respect and severity.

As a professional writer who has been commissioned to pen two different projects on two Hall of Fame personalities in the boxing industry, I take great pride in consistently learning from those who have been around the sport much longer than I have.

It would be more appropriate to be humble and just say “thank you” when someone shares some insight into the fight game.

But, I guess humility is not in your character description. Lol!!

Posted October 13, 2012 5:35 pm 


te tumbo

that being said, i don’t think Rios will be able to plead making weight for this bout. he didn’t look too bad at 140lbs but Alvarado looked stronger and healthier. with all the weight-related b.s., some fighter’s fitness can only be judged on a fight-by-fight basis, e.g., the 160lb Chavez Jr. will someday weigh-in looking like Morales for his rubbermatch v. Pacquiao*. like a POW or concentration camp survivor . . . “Pe-Ace!” . . . :twisted:

Posted October 13, 2012 2:06 pm 


Kid Blast

“This one is a toss-up, but I’ll go with Rios based on two factors: 1) Alvarado’s face has been busted up in the past. In fact, it looked like a pizza after his brutal fight with Prescott. I see Rios’s jarring uppercuts eventually doing heavy damage to Mike’s eyes, possibly hindering his sight. When Bam Bam fought John Murray, he rendered the game Murray’s face a bloody mess. If Prescott could do this Alvarado, I see Rio also doing it. 2) Alvarado is a warrior and brawler first and a boxer second. That’s his profile. He loves to engage. Rios, on the other hand, is a better boxer than most give him credit for. His amateur career was lengthy and stellar. Now he is trained by arguably the hottest trainer in boxing, Robert Garcia. I think Garcia’s preparation and corner work will give Bam Bam an ever-so-slight edge. Caveat: If Mike takes Rios into the late rounds and Rios falters, look for Alvarado to close matters because he is one of those who gets stronger the longer the fight progresses. Therefore, it is imperative for Rios to do damage early and often.

Posted October 13, 2012 1:59 pm 


te tumbo

HERRON, why would I be starving myself? i’m not a professional athlete just like you’re not a professional writer. i’m a fight-fan whose speculating that even making 140lbs might not be enough for Rios to overcome a naturally-strong Alvarado in his first fight at 140lbs. feel free to disagree without being such a C***t about it.

Posted October 13, 2012 1:59 pm 


Rich

C’MON Boxy i’m waiting to place my bet

Posted October 13, 2012 12:24 pm 


big head

mike can box but it not like he a defensive fighter or he got great footwork like a richard abril or somthing but he is a athlete since he use to be on a wrestling team but like mike tyson said everybody got a plan till they get punch in the face mike plane is to box but what if get caught with a good shot rios train his body for a war but mike is a big strong guy who can hit we see who power going to have affect on who but im sticking with rios to win

Posted October 13, 2012 11:58 am 


Red Ryan

Alvarado is gona beat the crap outa this tough kid Rios, its gona be a bad beating, then Rios will join the Ortiz and Khan club………

Posted October 13, 2012 8:42 am 


KOrnerman

Joseph Herron- maybe if Rios had fought in the correct weight class sooner he wouldn’t have got the slating that he got for fighting lightweights and struggling to make the weight to do so.

Posted October 13, 2012 5:40 am 


KOrnerman

yous are forgetting Rios is coming up a weight, his punches might not have the desired effect then what’s he goona do? where as he will feel Alverado’s who’s fought at this weight continuously, Alverado by tko round 9 or 10 after outboxing Bam Bam most of fight.

Posted October 13, 2012 5:38 am 


hecdog

Rios will win by KO. He’s a different level of fighter than Alvarado. Alvarado is an athlete and a decent boxer, but Rios is the natural fighter that hits hard, and when in shape and not weakened by the weight, he’s Murderous, and he will show it against Alvarado.

Posted October 13, 2012 2:32 am 


Joseph Herron

Te Tumbo, you wouldn’t think that 3 pounds would make very much difference because you probably have never had to starve yourself continously for days trying to make weight without losing any.

Talking to Robert right after the Abril weigh in, he was pissed that a lot of ignorant writers were drilling Rios, not realizing what steps Brandon had just taken trying to lose the final three pounds.

He basically killed himself trying win the WBA title. he stayed in the sauna for a dangerous amount of time with no water and nothing to eat the day of the weigh in.

If you don’t think it affected his performance very much, then you don’t know much about the sport.

Posted October 12, 2012 10:58 pm 


te tumbo

Alvarado looked strong and healthy at the weigh-in and Rios only looked a bit drained but i’ve seen a lot worse. this matchup may turn out to be as good as advertised but i’m still favoring Alvarado.

Posted October 12, 2012 10:22 pm 


big head

yeah rios got a solid jab to when he use it he good at parrying shots to to get inside rios need to use a lil more head movement i think the punch that can hurt mike is the uppercut rios be using on the inside some reason i think this might go the distance tho i got rios winning to even know mike is a bad boy rios just look hungry like he want this

Posted October 12, 2012 10:04 pm 


te tumbo

i think Alvarado and Rios will be looking to make a statement in this fight. sustained exchanges are inevitable and what fight-fans are anticipating.

Posted October 12, 2012 10:01 pm 


te tumbo

i can’t (won’t) disregard Rios’ recently underwhelming performances. yes, i believe that dehydration was a factor but he didN’T make weight and was still a pale shadow of his former self. i’m not convinced that 3lbs is gonna make that much of a difference in his favor, in his first fight at 140lbs. conversely, on the same night in the same ring, Alvarado never looked more pumped or primed to take out his designated opponent who wouldN’T rollover before a victorious Alvarado proceeded on his thumpin and bumpin way. IMO, Alvarado enjoys a lot of natural advantages in this matchup and i’m expecting a collission. i don’t see either Rios or Alvarado as having the skills or temperament to avoid it.

Posted October 12, 2012 9:57 pm 


Joseph Herron

Good post, Hidalgo, and very perceptive.

Although Rios does indeed have his defensive lapses when he’s trying to impose his will, his ability to work his way inside intelligently is highly underrated.

When he does get on the inside, it’s difficult for his opponents to create that distance once again and use the ring effectively.

This is going to be a great fight.

i always love writing the Gogue analysis articles because I always learn so much from James.

He is the very best at breaking down match-ups and coming up with fight strategies while explaining it in a way that’s very easy for young fighters and avid fans to understand.

Posted October 12, 2012 9:50 pm 


Hidalgo

Gogue’s analysis is reasonable, and likely spot on. With it being only a 10-round fight however, Alvarado will have to be very careful of Bam-bam. Brandon will be going full tilt. Brandon’s not going to let him slip and slide without paying for it–whether or no Alvarado has a good chin. Still, Rios has a tendency to take way more punches than he needs to. His desire to take out his opponents often overwhelms his common sense. If Rios goes down that avenue, Alvardo could outfox and outpunch him and get the win. That said, I like Rios by TKO. He’s a terror, he’s a bull, he’s tough, he’s strong, he’s got loads of heart and courage and he never quits. I give it 8 rounds.

Posted October 12, 2012 9:13 pm 



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